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What do you remember buying an SMG in case you've got a run and gun?

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I don't even know where I'm going to be living in a few months.

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Why would I buy more guns?

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Fuck!

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Where where I move is going to be gun fucked.

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I can already tell.

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Fuckin' Libs man.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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I'm not gonna be a gun.

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Hold on a second here.

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Is that the projection?

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What's this?

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What is that?

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What's going on over there?

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Let's see here.

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I got it, I got it, I got it.

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Okay, okay.

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Can you translate?

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Yeah, this says...

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There's the other guys' names.

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In the factions, as you will see in a moment,

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together with Naftali Bennett,

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it is the third largest party with 14 seats.

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After them, the joint list gets 10.

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In our sample.

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Tonight, the Democrats, led by Yaya Golan,

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also get gettin'.

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We gotta figure out what's going on here.

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What the fuck is this?

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Uh, hello?

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Whatever this is, this is my ancestry.

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I need to find this guy.

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I feel like...

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I feel like...

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This is...

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Who is it?

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Almost half of its original strength.

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Six, only six seats in the pole.

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So, Netanyahu's party has more than Eizen codes.

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It also gets a low number for itself.

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Six seats.

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Only 12 seats for the Haredi parties, together,

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Shahs and Torah Judaism have compared to the previous elections.

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Six, religious Zionism, identity, also has six.

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And below the electoral threshold, in our pole,

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are the parties of Hendel, Zalihah and Amcha.

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Oh, for winter's Israel does not pass.

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Okay, look.

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What's this?

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This is the map of the blocks.

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That's the block.

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The Eizenkot block is the largest with five and three seats.

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Eizenkot block has 53 seats.

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Despite Likud's achievement, has 50 seats.

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Okay.

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Only.

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The Arab party's...

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Stop just talking to me, I'm supposed to be working.

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I used Claude to fix my Samsung TV.

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I saw a video online that prompted Claude to fix an Android TV.

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I have a Samsung one.

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So, it has to do the same.

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It found it's not Android, but Tizen,

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then wanted a webcam pointed to the TV as it worked.

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I didn't have a webcam, so I set up a small website.

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So, it set up a small website, told me to browse to it and connect my phone.

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And it took photos every four seconds.

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It couldn't be bothered to type the URL.

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So, instead, it generated a QR code image,

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told me to scan the image on the phone and enable the camera.

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This QR code is just to a local server.

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Then I spent the next 30 minutes changing all the privacy settings, telemetry capture,

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disabled a bunch of unnecessary apps.

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It deleted the advertising ID that Samsung built on our TV,

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rearranged all the icons and disabled all the unused apps.

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[BLANK_AUDIO]

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I then decided to build an app so I could achieve the Apple TV style home screen request.

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It even built an app so I can control the shortcuts, background, images, and settings.

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And for whatever reason, I got interested in a clip of a cat and watched that for a while.

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Prompt, my Android TV is slow and full of ads.

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Find it on my Wi-Fi, connect over ADB.

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What is ADB?

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And, deep-load it, disable the manufacturer's ads, telemetry, and junk, reversibly never uninstall.

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Ask me first about apps and features I might use, then build and install a fast, minimal

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Apple TV style home screen with a dock of my favorite apps, oohh, bonger alert, ADB's

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Android debugging, okay, and rotating nature wallpapers.

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Back up, before changing anything, check every step with screenshots from the TV and give

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me a restore script.

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Man, the only thing, I don't know fuck all about anything, okay, so I don't know fuck all about

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anything just to be clear.

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But I will say that if you are going to do like major software work as like a beginner

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or whatever on anything using AI, this thing at the end like give me a restore script and

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like ask me before deleting anything important.

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Like, if you're going to do any big work, if you haven't done it manually, the first

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thing should always be, can you create like a some bit perfect copy, so like a disk image

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or something before, and then you put that somewhere else before any work is done, because

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there's no guarantee that it's going to make the right choices or have something restorable

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at the end of the day here.

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And if you don't have like a perfect image of whatever you started on, then like yeah,

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there's no way you're going back.

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Or you can just say make no mistakes, true, I forgot about that one.

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Okay, back to work what you guys watch Israel, the news poll, what kind of TV do you have?

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I don't remember.

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I posted on stream a long time ago.

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It's okay.

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I guess.

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But the basic idea I'm seeing is that Netanyahu's party got more than Eisenhower's party, but

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eyes and coats coalition has more seats total than Netanyahu's coalition.

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I know we hate like statement, but this is probably the best interview from a very respected

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professional in the math world.

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To be clear, I don't hate lacks at all.

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I don't know how to say this without sounding mean, but I guess like takes me anyway, so

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it doesn't matter.

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I just don't think he has.

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I don't think that people understand sometimes like the what's happening with politics.

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That's my issue is so the morals that you have when you're navigating a political world,

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this is like a zero some game where other people have interests that can run contrary

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to yours.

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And if you try to navigate that world without realizing it, you become an exploitable target.

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And then that makes you something that I think is a bad thing.

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But I don't think Lex is inherently like a bad evil person.

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I don't think it should.

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It's odd.

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And we're supposed to hear from the, we're supposed to hear from, I think we're not,

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there's not sound on this.

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That's just music.

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We're supposed to hear from the elections committee soon.

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Okay, I have an update for you AP says, no clear winner in Israeli election exit polls

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suggest as Netanyahu's fate hangs in the balance.

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Israel's election ended with no clear winner.

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Exit polls indicate likely setting off weeks of jockeying before a leader is declared.

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Exit polls suggest that Netanyahu's political block, neither his block nor that of his main

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rival Gaddy Eisencoat secured the 61 seats needed for a parliamentary majority.

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And the exit poll, one I've seen, well, one said that Eisencoat's coalition had 53 seats

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and Netanyahu said 50, but Netanyahu's own party has more seats than Eisencoat's party.

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Reuters says exit polls indicate deadlock in Tuesday's election.

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Israel's election ended in an apparent deadlock today.

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polls by major networks showed with neither Prime Minister Netanyahu nor his main rival

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Eisenhower on a track for a majority in the Knesset. The stalemate could work in Netanyahu's

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favor, allowing Netanyahu to remain in power in a caretaker capacity, while parties try

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to forge a governing coalition.

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Any moment, we're going to get you some more updates here. Right. So Likud is the biggest

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party, but the anti net and you not net and Yahoo coalition is the biggest coalition. Times

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of Israel says neither side has clear path to majority exit polls. Is it true that the

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party's won't form a coalition with either side? Is that true? What do you do in a government

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where you can't form a majority? Oops. Just a fight over every single more updates here

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appointment or cabinet or how does that from the elections committee? We're going to we're

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going to be bringing you. I'm going to take a cough drop. Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry. Sounds

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terrible. I was feeling better, but the talking is not healthy. But the, the, uh, the, uh,

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we're supposed to hear from the election committee, and we're going to bring you live coverage

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of net and Yahoo speaking and Eisenhower's coat speaking, assuming we're going to hear

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from both of them. Um, so let's keep an eye on that. Nobody's speaking yet. Um, but, uh,

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we're bringing you the latest. Just bear with me for it. Please bear with me for a second.

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No clear winner. Um, yeah. The, um, how are it's the poll that how are it's has has,

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they have the same one we saw from con news. I think we saw the con news one. So it's net

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and Yahoo's party has 25 seats. Eyes and coats party has 21 seats. So net and Yahoo's party

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is the biggest party, but the eyes and coat anti net and Yahoo coalition has 53 seats.

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And the net and Yahoo coalition has 50 seats. You need 61. Give me a moment here. Waiting

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to hear. Wasn't the real bridge burn? Cause you were

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more than you were. Uh, there's a different egg. So I think channel a little bit, but

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I think it was another tweet too that I made that where I was a little critical of either

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him platforming or being nice to Trump or something like that. But the Alex Jones was

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the first one. Cause my subreddit, I think was kind of mean to him on that. Oh no, uh,

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one exit poll had one exit poll from channel 14 had the net and Yahoo coalition at 60,

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at 60 seats. Greg Carlstrom from the economist knows says that channel 14 is very pro BB.

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Also Greg Carlstrom who's from the economist says that the polls suggest that if the eyes

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and coat anti net and Yahoo coalition is going to take power with 61 seats, they would need

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support from both Arab parties. And I don't know if they're willing to work with the Arab

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parties. I believe eyes and coat has said before he would not work with the Arab parties.

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This isn't a criticism anyone, but why don't more streamers do the perpetual background

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music thing like as my gold fills a dead air, right? Hello chat. Relax here. Just getting

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caught up on. Because one, a lot of it will get copyright hit or two of it's not getting

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a copyright hit because it's like gaming background music, but gaming background music. Like if

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you're not a gamer or streamer, why would you even have that? It just wouldn't make

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sense for the audience. I think it's between them. So you could have this issue where either

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side would need the Arab parties to join their coalition to take control, but neither side

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might want to work with the Arab parties. All right, give me a moment. We're trying to

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bring you the latest updates here. Waiting for some sort of we're supposed to hear from

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a lot of people are going to be able to do this.

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election commission soon and we'll see how things play out here.

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Oh, I do have a site that shows the election results, but I don't know if they have anything

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up there yet.

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There's nothing.

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So if you look here, this is the official is, this is the official Israeli site.

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I don't know why we just heard that again.

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This is the official Israeli site, but it says waiting for the votes to be counted.

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So there's nothing official up there yet.

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Now, please bear with me.

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This is in Tel Aviv.

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We're looking at here.

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This is the Yashar party, watch party.

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Please bear with me for a second.

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Getting you the latest.

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Are we getting an election with Vadim?

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Man, I thought about it.

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He reached out.

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I just don't know if I can justify the expense and everything.

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It's a lot.

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I'm still not sure.

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I need to sit down and actually plan out how I want that election stream to look because

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I'll be in San Antonio with my portable stuff, but I need to figure out because he probably

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doesn't look like a computer.

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Oh, is there a statement here from Eizen coat?

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Hold on a second here.

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I'm reading report of a statement from Eizen coat, but I want to see it myself.

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So remember, something that happens next is in the coming days, the president of Israel

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chooses who he thinks has the best chance to form a government and gives them the first

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opportunity to form a government to try to cobble together enough parties to have 61 seats.

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So there's this question about who will that be?

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Who will get the first crack at forming a government?

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Now, Netanyahu's party got the most votes, but Eizen coat's coalition should have the

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most seats total.

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So I don't even know who that's going to be.

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Now, I 24 news had a different exit poll.

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I 24 news their exit poll was Netanyahu block 55 opposition block 49 and Arab party 16.

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So I mean, we'll have to wait till the votes are counted to really see what how all this

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shakes out waiting to hear more here.

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Rift King sounds like sounds like new elections that could end up happening.

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We could end up with a situation with new elections.

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If in the coming weeks and months, maybe if no one can form a government, we could end

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up with another we could be back here covering another election.

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Lloyd thinks that Herzog could either pick the party with the most seats or the coalition

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with the most seats.

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Maybe if it ends up being different, which it looks like it might.

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Thomas Darwin says actual votes will tell the story.

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Noctis says endless election.

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Again, we're going to have the candidate speeches for you.

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That's going to be coming up.

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Oh, I have an update from AP.

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Oh, let me show you what AP said.

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Here's what AP says.

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A little update for you here.

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No clear winner in Israeli election exit poll suggests as Netanyahu's fate hangs in the

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balance.

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election ended today. They haven't counted the votes yet. With no clear winner, exit polls

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indicate likely setting off weeks of jockeying before a prime minister is declared or another

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round of elections is scheduled. An inconclusive result would leave Israel in political limbo

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after the country's first national election since Hamas is October 7th, 2023 attack.

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Exit polls released by major Israeli exit polls released by major Israeli TV stations

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suggest that neither Netanyahu's political block nor that of his main rival former military chief

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Godi Eisencoat secured the 61 seats needed for a parliamentary majority. Those polls indicated

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that Netanyahu's block won 50 seats, the opposition won 52 or 53 seats and Arab parties won 17 to 18

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seats. The strong showing by Arab-led parties could allow them to decide the next prime minister,

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but both blocks have until now refused to partner with the Arab parties.

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Like all surveys, exit polls are subject to potential error. Preliminary results are

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expected in the coming hours. Final results are expected in the coming days and may vary

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from the exit polls. Wow. Wow. Guys.

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So waiting here some speeches and some more from the election committee, we'll have to see.

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Um, I should check over here. Some of our viewers are mentioning the betting side.

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Why wouldn't the Arab block partner with the international side? I thought I heard at one

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point that the Arab block doesn't partner with, um, who doesn't like, avowedly doesn't partner with

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any of the Jewish sides. But then I think, um, somebody in chat said that it's the two big Jewish

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coalitions that won't partner with the Arab coalitions. I don't know. Oh wait, somebody said

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Destiny, that isn't correct. The Arab parties divide into two parties, ROM and joint list. The

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joint list refuses to participate and they hold the highest amount of the Arab. Oh, okay. Maybe

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that's it then. Right. So on Cal sheet, the, the, the current favorite is no one of who will be the

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prime minister after the after the election. Uh, no one has gone up to 68% and then Isaac

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coded 20 and Netanyahu at 16. But, uh, you know, I don't, I haven't read through the rules of that

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market, but no one has shot up. Okay. We're waiting to hear more here. Uh, we're waiting to get some

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actual numbers in, which I don't have yet. I'm going to show you the actual numbers when they

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start coming in. Nope. It still says no, no numbers in waiting for the votes to be counted.

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Whoo. Wow. Waiting for results. Oh, true, actually. Do we have any poly market predictions on who

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wins the selection? As soon as I get anything more, I will give it to you. I feel like polymarket.u.

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Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Polymarket.us maybe doesn't have Israel stuff, but

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current polymarket. No. Eyes and eyes. Um, I got a 62%. Oh my god. I just went up a point and

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Yahoo. That was at 30. So I mean, this is still like pretty close ish. I don't know what it seems

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dramatic, but, um, remember prediction markets are betting markets are giving you the, um,

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are giving you the odds that people think an outcome is going to happen. Not the polling data,

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right? So like, uh, like a poll that goes like 51 49 in the poll might have odds in the betting

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market that's like 70 30 or something. Does that make sense? So if these are like 62 30,

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my guess is the outcome is fairly close. So we're going to, I guess.

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Does, um, polymarket.us, does it show you the volume of trades on this?

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Yeah. Somebody find out.

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It's not immediately obvious to me. Yes, if they're hiding it, then it's low volume.

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What does low volume mean for polymarket.us? Like less than 100,000 of trades or less than a

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million or 10 million or.

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Wait, what would be a high volume?

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The Texas one has to be high volume, right?

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I don't see, maybe Poly marker dot com might have the odds, maybe the dot US one doesn't,

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maybe.

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I'm sure the volume I'm probably at US is, but I'm probably international is about 65

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million volume, the same I get Jesus, okay.

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I also think, I don't know if the market, what would you call it, like the books or the

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actual buys and sells on Poly marker dot US and dot com.

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I don't know if it's the same, if the books are the same on both either, I'm not sure.

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I feel like it's probably not because I think the markets are listed slightly differently

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and they have different markets, so.

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Are these the names of the, these are just the parties.

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These aren't the coalitions, right?

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So like Likud is expected to take the most seats, that doesn't mean that they'll look

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like a Likud.

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I don't know what the name of the coalition is.

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Those aren't recent poly market controversies, watch the video on it, which like the insider

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trading stuff, those are something else.

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I don't, I've looked at all my windows.

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There's no, I really don't have anything open, I usually don't have open windows, it's not

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using Linux.

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All right, give me a second here.

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Let me, I got a restart Facebook now because of this nonsense.

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I don't, I have no idea why Facebook stopped working.

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Coalitions are like a formal name, got you.

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Okay, stop just trying, hold on, I need to finish my work.

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So I will restart it, ridiculous, stupid, God damn it.

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Did you see the deep fake debate loop on Paris, Paris extreme?

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Nope, I was out last night drinking hell yeah.

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We got clunk.

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All right, I'm restarting it on Facebook, sorry for the delay, ah hang on a moment, okay,

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we should be good to go there now.

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Again, that beeping is driving me crazy and I have absolutely no idea where it's coming

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from.

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It's the weirdest thing in the world.

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I think I've muted all the sites.

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So we're waiting to hear from the central election committee.

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We're waiting to hear from some of the candidates, we're going to play that and to actually see

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the vote start coming in.

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Would you like to bring all of that?

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I mean, I hate Netanyahu and his fucking coalition.

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But with all honesty, I mean, it's not like I've dug deep into Israeli politics, I can't

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really say.

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Literally going to every website, everything that's open to my computer to try to figure

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out where that's coming from.

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I really do a part drive me crazy.

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I have no, I have officially no idea.

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Now bear with me for a second here.

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Are Jews in America a lot of voting this?

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I think you have to have Israeli citizenship.

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So if you have dual citizenship, I think you can, but otherwise I don't think so.

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Yeah, that one, we have that one.

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I do have the lakud party.

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I should show you the lakud party.

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You know that.

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I'll show you that.

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Yeah, you get that on the screen for you.

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We haven't looked at that one yet.

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Lakud party, watch party.

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Who did I arrive out for?

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We keep looking at the Yashir party.

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I don't think he voted for anybody.

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I could be wrong, but I think you have to vote in person.

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I don't think you can vote overseas, which sounds not right, because would you really

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make it so that you, I was going to say, how would your military vote?

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But that's only a US thing, I guess, because generally people don't have military all over

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the world, but I feel that way because I heard that like 60,000 people would ever were flying

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back to Israel to vote.

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So why would they all fly back if it was easy to vote by now?

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Why do some of my messages get cut off in the first few sentences is the message length.

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I have no idea of seven balls, but it's not even showing up on my side.

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So I guess it's just too long of a message.

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That's still lakud.

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That's still lakud.

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Long been exploded among Hezbollah militants.

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Sorry, that's like a news reporter or something, sorry, I had to take the audio off.

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So that's the lakud party, Netanyahu's lakud party.

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That is there.

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event. That's in Jerusalem. So we have the Likud party event and the Yashir party event.

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No one's speaking yet. I've gone over anything because I'm doing a work. And then we have

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the election camera, election commission camera. 98% of Trump's refugees have been white to

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South Africans. Jesus fuck. Seriously. That's it. Unreal. Okay.

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How soon they'll start popping up on the election on the site. I keep checking the site. And

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I don't see any results. There's no official results post saying you don't understand anything

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on epistemology. Yeah, let me just solve ethics right now. This guy really has no idea what

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he's talking about when it comes to ethics and epistemology. And he'd like to make that

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point. So let's watch him. Yeah, I'm not a trained philosopher at all. I feel like I

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say that I feel like I probably hedged a million times of this conversation saying as much,

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right? I absolutely have no formal or good informal trading on any of this, but okay.

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Issue with saying there is an objective moral truth. First way to know that he doesn't

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know what he's talking about is that he's talking about objective moral truth, which

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is not really how any serious philosopher talks about this. Philosophers talk about moral

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realism and anti-realism. It just turns out that lots of things are real without being

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objective. For instance, the thing on my hat is an eagle. That's really true, but it's

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not objective. To know that it's an eagle, you have to be able to understand symbols

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and probably hats and certainly nothing that's not a human would ever think that this is an

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eagle. None of that means that it's not really an eagle. To get going down this road, it turns

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out that most truths are not objective and maybe there are no truths that are objective.

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Anyway, let's let him explain why he doesn't believe in objective moral claims. Is there

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any way for us to perceive a moral fact? That doesn't seem to be a way to do that. If one

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person kills somebody else, there are physical properties that my eyes, my ears, I can go

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in touch that I can observe. And if somebody else disagrees with me over something, we

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can reconcile that based on similar sense data. When it comes to observing a moral fact, that

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murder was wrong versus just by saying that murder was justified. Well, it's a cognitive

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exercise, a rational exercise of like, well, let's have an argument over this or that,

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which I don't think is similar for anything else. Here, he just doesn't understand anything

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in epistemology. He thinks that the only facts are things that can be observed with the senses.

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This is a complete train wreck. Just take his basic claim that the only things that are

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facts are things that can be observed with the senses. Can you observe that truth with

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your senses? No, therefore, on his own epistemology, it cannot be a fact that all facts are things

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that you can observe with your senses. His epistemology is just self-referentially incoherent.

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But this another way, whether all facts are things that we can observe with our senses

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is not something we could observe with our senses, but things that we would just have

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to argue about, which is exactly the kind of thing that he's not allowing to function

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as fact. So, for instance, that a dollar is worth a dollar is not something that you can

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observe with your sense data. That my friend has a headache is not something I can observe

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with sense data. My friend has to tell me that other people have internal monologues, not

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something I can observe. The truths of math and logic are not things that are observable.

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These are all among the reasons that people in philosophy haven't taken this kind of

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position seriously since about the 1950s. And I just wish that people who talk as if they

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know what they're doing would actually study some of what's happened in the last 75 years

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in the field they're talking about. Even A.J. Ayer, by this point, is disappointed. Do

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better. Yeah, let me just saw. Okay. The biggest criticism I would give to this

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guy is that I don't purport to be an expert in anything philosophy at all. Like I sometimes

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I feel like I stay on a stream. They're like, Oh, I don't know anything about this. And

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then I'll rattle a bunch of stuff off and people are like, Oh, he's just being humble.

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There are some things I'm humble about for philosophy. I really don't know that much.

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If this I don't know what the original clip is presented as, but if this is if like he

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comes across something like this, and this seems like a serious like, you know, this

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influencer streamer guy destiny talking about philosophy or whatever. And this guy, my

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guess is it seems like he understands philosophy. Like, I feel like this is a, if

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you're ever going to do like a take down on something, I feel like this is a pretty

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good video. One of the things that I say is that like if people are, if people are

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knowledgeable in a field, and they know stuff in the field, and then you're listening to

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them and you're knowledgeable in a field, you can usually immediately suss out like

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This guy has no idea what he's talking about.

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So if you're somebody who's super knowledgeable in philosophy,

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my guess is that you can probably listen to me talk about anything.

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And after like 30 to 60 seconds, I'll use some phrase

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or combination of words, where it's like--

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I don't think this guy has any formal background of this.

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Because I think he calls me out in the beginning here,

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where I say objective moral truth.

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And that probably is a stupid phrase.

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Because I think you can have objective moral truths

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and subjective moral truths.

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And they have nothing to do with moral realism

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or anti-realism.

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So the phrase objective moral truth probably is, my guess,

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is it's just like a layman's phrase that somebody who doesn't

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have any deep background in epistemology or ethics

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are probably utter.

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But he doesn't just say, oh, this guy's wrong,

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because he doesn't know this phrase.

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He then gives an example of how--

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well, he says objective moral truth.

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That's a thing.

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But he's actually probably talking about this thing.

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And then he gives an example of, well, here's a thing

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that you can talk about that's subjective,

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and then he explains why philosophers might say to everything.

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I think that my only complaint would be, obviously,

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that I don't purport to be a super big philosophy guy.

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So I think if I was marking myself that way,

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00:36:07,340 --> 00:36:09,160
I think it would be fair to do pretty brutal take-offs.

457
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,520
I don't think this is brutal, though.

458
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,280
In terms of this is something that, in this case, it's me.

459
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,920
But this is something that a layman is saying.

460
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,320
This is why this phrase doesn't make sense

461
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,720
to anybody that works in the field

462
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:20,520
or knows anything about the field would never say this,

463
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,480
because this phrase doesn't even make sense.

464
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,720
And then explains why it doesn't make sense.

465
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:25,120
It gives an example of a thing that would contradict

466
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,960
my own thing.

467
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,280
And then he does it two or three times in here, too,

468
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,360
when he brings up the other thing about observable things,

469
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,440
he brings up, like, oh, well, here are truths

470
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,200
that you can observe using sense data and sense data

471
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,320
was the qualifier that you gave before

472
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,520
for certain types of facts that you've not

473
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,520
believe in those facts, I think it's a fine video.

474
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,840
He's just a little mean.

475
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,080
But my guess is because, again, I don't know where he saw

476
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,600
this stitch from, but if you're just seeing this,

477
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,000
it probably feels like I'm presenting myself

478
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,600
as some fucking moral philosopher

479
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,280
who's having deep serious arguments about it.

480
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,400
When in reality, I would never, ever, I would never.

481
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,640
I'll chat about it if somebody wants me to,

482
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,840
but I don't like, I try to clarify.

483
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,000
And I felt like I do when I go on that show,

484
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,640
like, I'm a super layman, like we can have the talk

485
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,760
if we want, but I'm like a mega, mega, mega on this.

486
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,720
That was, I think that video was fair.

487
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:05,000
- Just did.

488
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000
- All right, now we lost that camera for some reason.

489
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,840
Hold on, we have the other camera.

490
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,680
Why are those, let's see, what are you doing?

491
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,920
- They said they were going to come back

492
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,200
and talk about the election at 10.

493
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,200
So there are 120 seats in the,

494
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,320
- I have no clue what his rebuttal meant to be honest.

495
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,960
Destiny, the jargon is cringe.

496
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,080
Jargon isn't cringe because jargon can demonstrate

497
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,640
whether or not a person, like you're always going

498
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,560
to have jargon in a field.

499
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,040
Like if I were to talk to you about like,

500
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,240
I need way more memory from my computer.

501
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:41,840
I keep running out of hard drive space.

502
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,760
Like for a lot of computer people,

503
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,040
that would instantly throw up flags of like,

504
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:45,880
wait, what?

505
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,800
Or I don't know if this guy knows anything about computers.

506
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,320
Like just hearing that phrase,

507
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,840
like I keep running out of memory on my computer.

508
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,200
I need more hard drives.

509
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,160
I need more hard drive space.

510
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,080
Like just saying that small sentence

511
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,520
would immediately throw up a bunch of red flags.

512
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,800
It's like, we don't call that memory.

513
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,120
We call that storage.

514
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,680
Like isn't the hard drive remembering what you put on it?

515
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,600
That's not, you never, you never say that.

516
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,960
Memory always refers to RAM.

517
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,360
That's just how we speak.

518
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,520
So jargon can be important, but even past a jargon thing,

519
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,200
his thing wasn't just jargon.

520
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,120
There's also like combinations of phrases

521
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,240
that somebody can use that might be outside of a space.

522
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:20,360
But when they start to use combinations of phrases,

523
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,400
you realize that they just don't have an understanding,

524
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,920
a deep understanding of the underlying concepts

525
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,000
that they're talking about.

526
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,680
I really don't know how to explain that any better than,

527
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,600
I don't know how to explain that any better than just,

528
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,200
you have to have a field and then you give an example

529
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,040
and a field.

530
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,640
But like I said, my guess is that if anybody listens to me

531
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,120
talk about philosophy, who's like well-studied in philosophy,

532
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,280
if you were to listen to me talk about philosophy for a minute,

533
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,480
you'd probably be able to pick out like a bunch of things

534
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,360
where it's like, I'm pretty sure that if I were to sit down

535
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,240
with this guy and push him on any of these things,

536
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,480
the thing I say like people collapse in one or two questions.

537
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,000
For any of my philosophy talk or philosophy understanding,

538
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,960
I probably wouldn't be able to defend stuff that deeply

539
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,360
past like a few questions.

540
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,800
Like I know enough to get like a basic philosophy

541
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,480
off the ground to like build out my personal morals

542
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,840
and then my political positions,

543
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,440
which is more than 99.99% of people online.

544
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,160
But in terms of like, are we gonna debate

545
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,800
about like moral realism or some other type of like epistemic

546
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,920
framework or epistemic framework might not even be a thing

547
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,360
that people in the field use.

548
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,800
Yeah, so it's, yeah, it's fair.

549
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,800
I don't know how I'll say it.

550
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,400
Wait, I don't know what you want me to say, okay?

551
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,960
Okay, hold on.

552
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,800
Oh.

553
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,040
We're here to watch absolute Netanyahu, domination.

554
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,920
The joint list, which is an alliance of Arab party.

555
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,320
What's more important is that people understand

556
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,320
the point you're trying to get across, right?

557
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,000
It's, okay, you're just right at me.

558
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000
Kind of, but you also have to be careful

559
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,480
that you're not taking it further than you should

560
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,840
or feeling more strongly about it than you should.

561
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,680
So like,

562
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,080
I would say if I give you a take on something related to SARS-CoV-2 and the lab leak stuff

563
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,160
or something related to like Israel-Palestine, I would say I think you can take those takes pretty

564
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,840
far. Like I would feel fine with somebody arguing a position that I've given on those

565
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,840
to somebody else in real life. But if I'm telling you something about philosophy,

566
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,400
I'm not even remotely like I would say that if anybody that knows anything about philosophy

567
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,000
were to confront you with something that I've said on stream, I don't know if it would be defendable

568
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,800
because I just don't have the background there to give a to give an educated comprehensive take.

569
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,760
Like everything that I'm talking about there is going to be barely surface level deep and that's it.

570
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,960
That's the that's the difference right now. He's in Israel, the joint list.

571
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,880
It's hard to get one second accurate strengths I guess of your knowledge when you're talking about

572
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,360
things because the words I use are going to sound the same like oh it seems like he is pretty

573
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:56,000
confident about this but he's like oh okay don't stop bothering me. So here is that's Jerusalem.

574
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,360
Why did I say Jerusalem Tel Aviv? Well I've been showing you things from Jerusalem. That's not

575
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,040
what I meant to write though. I meant to write Jerusalem Israel but I've been showing you things

576
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:10,400
from Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. So that's Jerusalem. That's the elections committee. Then we have

577
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:20,960
that is in Tel Aviv and that's the you're correct but no philosopher worth anything

578
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:27,200
is not going to call you out on things like that. You mean is or is not is not. No philosopher

579
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:38,080
worth anything is not going to call you out. I don't know if that sounds the here and that's in.

580
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,000
I added not by a mistake. Oh well I don't know if it has to do with being a philosopher or not.

581
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,800
That's probably just this guy's demeanor but like I think the you know I the annoying thing is that

582
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,720
if you everybody practices philosophy whether you know anything about it or not because all of us

583
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:58,000
have opinions on morals and truth and you know and metaphysics like we all have opinions about things

584
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,880
that are all to some extent touched on by philosophy and so philosophy is probably annoying because

585
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,520
it's the most practiced and unlearned discipline ever in the whole history of the universe right.

586
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,040
So I think one of the most annoying things about philosophy is when you get a bunch of people who

587
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,280
are like high on their own supply who want to go like this is to have any field but especially

588
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,520
philosophy people want to go on to the internet and give their ultra informed philosophy takes

589
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,960
there actually have no engagement with the literature they have no engagement with the history of

590
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,160
philosophy they don't know where any of the current arguments are right so this is going to be my

591
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,200
engagement but like I said this is why I try when I say like I like I really don't know

592
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,680
really almost anything about philosophy other than like how to cobble together thing for me to get

593
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,360
through arguments which again is better than most people online outside of the industry but if you

594
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,280
are a philosopher if you're trained or if you're studied and then you see somebody like me give a

595
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,040
take online especially if you have the impression that's like oh this guy I think he's another Sam

596
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,040
Harris who's also guilty of this a lot I can I can understand the frustration of the annoyance

597
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:58,560
I think it's I think it's fair here is that one you start off by saying as a youtube idiot before

598
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,560
going over that by the way yeah I know but then it's also hard because a lot of people will hedge

599
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,560
like that and then just give ultra confident takes but then they always run back to the hedging

600
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,800
and will say oh well I just said I was a youtube idiot so I don't actually know what you think

601
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,720
about this at all and then so I don't know whatever everything is fucked you know.

602
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:20,560
Herzog to make his decision about who he's going to give the chance first to to form a government

603
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:27,280
all right give me I need one minute we are keeping our eye on everything here

604
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:35,360
and we're bringing you live coverage give me just a moment here I need to take one minute we're

605
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,560
going to have the candidates speaking we're going to have more updates and voting updates I'm going

606
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:46,400
to take one minute here just about one minute and come right back and we'll get you more

607
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:56,880
soon so give me give me just one minute one minute for what

608
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:14,320
who does tell me this is not real right dude I don't I don't want to know I don't even care

609
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:27,280
we're only playing Minecraft today did we really we're like fucking dude we're like Russia now

610
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,800
it's like a sod going to fucking Russia is this this is not real is it

611
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,360
that we ask that we let Bolsonaro flee into the fucking United States bro

612
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,240
tell me this is a joke is there anybody reporting this it's not as random fuck account

613
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:48,080
with a check mark that means nothing anymore

614
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:17,380
Jesus. The Bolson, our father, ran to the US as well, so solid chances. Import the third

615
00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:31,800
world become the third world. Destiny, is this your or are we the baddies moment? What? That

616
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:45,500
was over in 2016. Maybe you're crazy or 2017. Steve will be back in one minute.

617
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:16,580
Well, the country of the United States, after losing Sunday's presidential election, and

618
00:46:16,580 --> 00:46:23,760
refusing to comply with the Supreme Court order to hand over his passwords. My face and re-kill

619
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:33,440
in your later and install this guy again. Thanks for your patience. You're welcome. What's

620
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:41,020
up? What do you got? Okay, so just summarizing what's going on. We got the exit polls in,

621
00:46:41,020 --> 00:46:48,740
but we don't have the actual votes in. But neither the Netanyahu coalition, nor the

622
00:46:48,740 --> 00:46:56,100
up anti net and yahoo coalition has enough seats to form a government. And most of the

623
00:46:56,100 --> 00:47:03,420
other seats are with the Arab parties, which both coalitions don't seem to want to, we're

624
00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:13,060
haven't seemed to want to work with. So what happens now? And exit polls suggested that

625
00:47:13,060 --> 00:47:18,460
the net anti net and yahoo coalition had slightly more votes than the net and yahoo coalition.

626
00:47:18,460 --> 00:47:24,660
But that net and yahoo's own party had the most votes, even if their coalition itself

627
00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:33,580
that includes his party did not have the most votes. But we will have to see what happens

628
00:47:33,580 --> 00:47:40,500
with the vote count. How will the lefties be somehow against this? Oh, man, dude, did

629
00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:46,700
you see the disgusting fucking Zatayo thing? Holy shit. Wait, maybe it was a meme. I need

630
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:56,180
to be checking to make sure people aren't just posting shitposts. Fuck, am I not even

631
00:47:56,180 --> 00:48:26,100
in my subreddit?

632
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:51,660
Did I scroll past it? Or is it not here? Somebody like I'm talking about. Oh, is this what

633
00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:56,940
is the best outcome for Palestinians? Victory for net and yahoo guarantees greater short-term

634
00:48:56,940 --> 00:49:02,100
savagery, but turns Israel into an international outcast. Victory for Eisenhower would probably

635
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:09,460
make life less frightening, but it would also normalize an unfair brutal and illegal occupation.

636
00:49:09,460 --> 00:49:14,940
The best type of acceleration is when you're accelerating other people towards disaster.

637
00:49:14,940 --> 00:49:36,980
Instead of yourself, I'm for acceleration for that guy. Oh, my fucking God, all right.

638
00:49:36,980 --> 00:49:41,940
When will data come start coming in? I would assume soon. I don't know exactly, but I keep

639
00:49:41,940 --> 00:49:57,220
checking their website. Their website does not have data on it yet.

640
00:49:57,220 --> 00:49:59,900
Let me just mention this again, because I think it's helpful here.

641
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,360
A very brief, very brief summary, no clear winner in Israeli election exit poll suggests

642
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,480
as Netanyahu's fate hangs in the balance.

643
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:13,280
AP says the election ended with no clear winner exit polls indicate likely setting off weeks

644
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:19,480
of jockeying before a prime minister declared or another round of elections is scheduled.

645
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:24,200
Exit polls released by major Israeli TV stations suggested that neither prime minister Benjamin

646
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,080
Netanyahu's political bloc nor that of his main rival.

647
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:33,840
Former military chief Gody Eisencoats secured the 61 seats needed for a parliamentary majority.

648
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:40,040
Those polls indicated that Netanyahu's bloc won 50 seats, the opposition won 52 or 53

649
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,720
seats, and Arab parties won 17 or 18 seats.

650
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:49,720
A strong showing by Arab-led parties could allow them to decide the next prime minister,

651
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:54,320
but both blocs have until now refused to partner with them.

652
00:50:54,320 --> 00:51:01,040
Eisencoats said a little while ago that exit polls indicated a lack of confidence in Netanyahu.

653
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:06,920
He said I will act immediately to fulfill the decision of the country.

654
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,880
Like all exit surveys, exit polls are subject to potential error, preliminary results are

655
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,440
expected in the coming hours.

656
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:22,480
Final results are expected in the coming days and may vary from the exit polls.

657
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,200
The process of coalition building will begin.

658
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:32,220
Israel's president will be tasked with asking the party leader with the best prospect of

659
00:51:32,220 --> 00:51:36,480
forming a government, usually the one with the most seats.

660
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:42,120
The coalition with the most seats, I assume, to cobble together a coalition.

661
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:47,720
If no one can, new elections could be held early next year.

662
00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:55,600
Israel held five elections between April 2019 and November 2022 because of a similar stalemate,

663
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,040
five elections.

664
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,640
No single party has ever won an outright majority in the country's 120-seat parliament, forcing

665
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,480
political leaders to forge coalitions.

666
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,800
Minority governments are also possible, but they must rely on support or cooperation from

667
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,680
parties outside the government to pass legislation.

668
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:24,600
The turnout has given their party's outsized influence.

669
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,800
Israel's Arab-led parties could emerge as kingmakers if no other parties agreed to join

670
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:38,000
forces with them.

671
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:51,840
Ah, did AFP, I guess AFP ended the stream that was from the elections site?

672
00:52:51,840 --> 00:53:01,440
We have right now, let me get you this one here, multiple cameras from both the Lacoud,

673
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:09,920
I should put both cameras up, Lacoud and Yasha, I'm going to put them both on the screen for

674
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:27,880
you, let's do that, give me a moment here, here's the other one, so we're going to do

675
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:56,360
this, with this one over here, double camera of the two headquarters, Yasha our event,

676
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:09,560
and then down here, I'm going to put Yasha our event is in Tel Aviv.

677
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:15,840
Oh, what's happening down here?

678
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,840
What's happening?

679
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:17,840
What's happening?

680
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,000
Somebody here?

681
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,440
What's happening here?

682
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:29,600
This is the Lacoud event, I put working in my stream titles, or I assume that the understanding

683
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,160
they would be like, oh, he's working on stuff, he's the only streaming on kick and tell those

684
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,680
things, but I'll just share them with both platforms, I'll put it in both titles, I don't

685
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:43,720
think it'll ever matter, because now people are just asking both platforms.

686
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:46,040
And play the music.

687
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:59,800
It's the Lacoud event.

688
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:21,440
I don't know what the big, but the big hullabaloo was there.

689
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,440
Let me just get this back.

690
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,400
I want to get these both on the screen for you and we'll see what develops.

691
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,320
That's the lacoot event down there.

692
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:43,880
And then we have the, oops, Tel Aviv.

693
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,800
I think I have this right, yes.

694
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,880
Oh, we're getting something else though.

695
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:52,880
What's this?

696
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:58,360
One of the, the election.

697
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,520
Oh, there's supposed to be November 4th or some reason, the 3rd.

698
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:03,520
They're the third, right?

699
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,520
Wait, one arm in terms.

700
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:06,520
It's the third.

701
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,520
It is the third.

702
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:14,360
Oh, yes.

703
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,360
Sorry for the confusion.

704
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:21,120
I'm just waiting for things to happen trying to keep you updated.

705
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:31,320
I'm still seeing no votes on the official site.

706
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,320
That's the site.

707
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,480
Election results waiting for the votes to be counted.

708
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:41,760
No votes posted.

709
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:54,560
I very much appreciate everybody tuning in.

710
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:59,240
I'm sorry I don't have any, any more updates for you yet.

711
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:11,280
Oh, hey, guys, Shelby Talcott with Semaphore reports that a senior state department official

712
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:19,440
tells her that the, that the State Department of the US will issue visas to Flavio Bolsonaro

713
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:25,080
and his family and allow them entry into the United States.

714
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:33,680
It was being reported earlier today that Bolsonaro fled, snuck out of Brazil after losing the

715
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,680
election.

716
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:41,480
You can see, for example, Reuters says Flavio Bolsonaro headed to the US after losing election

717
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:46,480
sources say, sell at Brazilian Senator Flavio Bolsonaro has left the country for the US after

718
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:52,000
losing the election and refusing to comply with a Supreme Court order to hand over his

719
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,000
passports.

720
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:58,460
Three sources said his location was not immediately clear.

721
00:57:58,460 --> 00:58:03,520
One source close to the Bolsonaro family said he was already in the US, but declined

722
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:10,240
to say where, the source told Reuters that President Trump had granted asylum to Flavio

723
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,540
and his immediate family.

724
00:58:12,540 --> 00:58:17,120
Trump has previously alleged that Flavio's father, former President Jair Bolsonaro, was

725
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:24,720
the victim of judicial persecution in Brazil.

726
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,480
Knitsky says, and yet somehow he got out of the country.

727
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:33,120
Well, it's a, I'll say this, it is a very divided country.

728
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,440
And there's certainly a significant portion of the country that supports him.

729
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,320
I mean, the election was, what was it, a 3% difference?

730
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:47,840
So I don't know how that all happened, but hey, thank you.

731
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,840
I am Charlie.

732
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,780
I am Charlie says smart move.

733
00:58:50,780 --> 00:58:53,240
You can't trust leftist globalists.

734
00:58:53,240 --> 00:59:06,440
I am Charlie says, Jay Mac says they're divided live like America.

735
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:16,200
The base potato says, bro is scared of going to jail.

736
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,200
Thank you, Sean.

737
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,960
Sean says, do you think this is a coincidence?

738
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:27,680
The election outcome after Pete announced strikes tonight?

739
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,040
Well I didn't hear about HEC Seth announcing anything tonight.

740
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,040
What did I miss?

741
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,040
What did I miss?

742
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,680
Did I miss something?

743
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:46,000
I have, I'm not aware of HEC Seth announcing strikes tonight.

744
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:58,220
I've heard nothing about it.

745
00:59:58,220 --> 00:59:59,440
I have not heard any reports of it.

746
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,980
I'll let you know if I do, but I haven't heard anything about it.

747
01:00:10,980 --> 01:00:17,120
Uh, let's see here.

748
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,080
Thank you, Lidwine Elizabeth, who says this could be, this could be depending on Palestinian

749
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,240
parties now.

750
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,080
I don't know how many of the air, I mean, those are Israeli.

751
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,320
I don't know how many of the people, I don't know how many of the areas Arab Israelis are

752
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,120
specifically Palestinian.

753
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,120
That's a good question.

754
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,880
How many Palestinian roots?

755
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:48,520
They could in theory have roots from other, from non-Palestinian Arab countries.

756
01:00:48,520 --> 01:01:05,680
But yes, uh, sounds like it's going to depend on the Arab parties.

757
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,120
Thanks, Lidwine Elizabeth for your support.

758
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,120
I appreciate it.

759
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:16,960
Also again, Sean R T one M W and you lower our member at you Lola and also Wendy cookie

760
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:17,960
W M our member.

761
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:18,960
Thank you.

762
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,960
A X for ever seven.

763
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:20,960
I remember.

764
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:21,960
Thank you.

765
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:22,960
53 months.

766
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:23,960
Thank you so much.

767
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:24,960
W cat, our member, Timothy 747.

768
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:25,960
Thank you, Timothy.

769
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,960
You really appreciate it.

770
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:34,080
Um, we're waiting again, expecting to hear from the candidates, nothing yet.

771
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:39,160
Certainly going to bring you that also expecting to actually get some numbers in from the vote.

772
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,560
Nothing yet.

773
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:47,560
Nothing yet guys.

774
01:01:47,560 --> 01:02:12,560
Hang tight, please.

775
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:30,000
Oh, do robbers says real numbers should start coming in at five PM, which is now, I don't,

776
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,000
I don't know.

777
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,000
I don't know when we're going to see them.

778
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,160
I haven't seen a fixed time for the real numbers to start coming in.

779
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:45,080
I'm just waiting to see them.

780
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,840
What I really should do is put a little line around this, which will make it easier for

781
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:59,000
you guys to, to see it.

782
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,000
Does that work?

783
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,000
There you go.

784
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,960
No better for you.

785
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:15,560
Yes, we do not have real numbers yet as our viewer Lloyd Hunt said, so that we're waiting

786
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,280
for it.

787
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:47,480
Donar Sennalt says Go BB.

788
01:03:47,480 --> 01:04:00,560
I'll be here with me here.

789
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:21,960
Amit Segal, who's an Israeli reporter I follow, says the night is young.

790
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,200
I don't know what he refers to, what he's meaning, what he's referring to about this.

791
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:32,140
Is he talking about how they haven't counted yet?

792
01:04:32,140 --> 01:04:41,680
Oh, and then also I just saw something here that I want to mention.

793
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:46,960
Oh, if I can.

794
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:52,720
There's an updated exit poll from channel 13, according to Times of Israel.

795
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:59,800
Level 13's exit poll says the Arab parties have 18 seats.

796
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:08,000
The anti-netanyahu parties have 52 seats and the pro-netanyahu parties have 50 seats.

797
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,000
You would need 61 for a majority.

798
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,000
Very good result for the Arab parties.

799
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,000
(keyboard clicking)

800
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,000
And then...

801
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,000
Hold on a second here.

802
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,000
Oh, the foreign minister said...

803
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,000
Oh, dude, this has dropped a lot.

804
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,000
The Israeli foreign minister...

805
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,000
part of the government, Gideon Sarr said...

806
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,000
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

807
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,000
It was like 60, 30, and now it's 50, 70, 30...

808
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,000
He said, "He celebrate...

809
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,000
Let me show you this.

810
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,000
This is what the foreign minister said of Israel.

811
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,000
Gideon Sarr.

812
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,000
He posted...

813
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,000
The celebrations on the left are premature.

814
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,000
The smugness of the biased commentators...

815
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,000
Ridiculous.

816
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,000
One thing seems quite clear.

817
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:37,000
LeCude is the largest party in Israel, according to the exit polls.

818
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,000
I hope...

819
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,000
I'm playing both sides.

820
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,000
I'm playing both sides.

821
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,000
You know what?

822
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,000
I'm putting 100 on this motherfucker.

823
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,000
I think that...

824
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,000
Now if he loses, we feel good, because...

825
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,000
Fuck Netanyahu.

826
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,000
But if he wins, this is what hedging is for.

827
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,000
Okay.

828
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,000
But if he wins, at least he made some money out of it.

829
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,000
That's called playing both sides, okay?

830
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,000
How does he form the government?

831
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,000
I don't know.

832
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,000
But Netanyahu has been involved in the fucking Israeli government in some form, like fucking 30 years.

833
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,000
So I feel like this motherfucker always falls through somehow.

834
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:38,000
I also have something to show you from the Minister of Culture in the current government.

835
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,000
He posted about this too.

836
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,000
Let me show you what he had to say.

837
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,000
Give me two seconds here.

838
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,000
I'll put it on the screen for you.

839
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,000
The Minister of Culture.

840
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,000
Is this not behaving properly?

841
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,000
Two seconds here.

842
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,000
Mickey Zohar, the Minister of Culture.

843
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,000
He said...

844
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,000
Look down here.

845
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:21,000
He said, "If Eisencoat, Lieberman, and Bennett's, these are all politicians, part of the anti-Net and Yahoo group.

846
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:26,000
If they try to form a government with the Arab parties," he says,

847
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:31,000
"it will be the end of their political careers within a very short period of time.

848
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,000
The public will not forgive and will not forget."

849
01:08:51,000 --> 01:09:01,000
Are those real monitors and stuff behind them?

850
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,000
Or is that like a green screen?

851
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,000
No, that's a real person.

852
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,000
7-6 thinks Likud is in full panic mode?

853
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:19,000
Yeah, Netanyahu is going to somehow fucking come out with a coalition with one of the Arab parties or some bullshit.

854
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,000
What do you know about the Arab party?

855
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,000
Honestly, not much.

856
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:27,000
I interviewed Ocman TV, where there was the longest serving Arab in the Knesset.

857
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,000
I don't remember if he was part of the joint list or not.

858
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,000
That guy, man.

859
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,000
He believes in all of them.

860
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,000
All of the conspiracy.

861
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,000
Waiting to hear from the candidates.

862
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:43,000
Hey, thanks to Aristotle Pepperturtle.

863
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,000
What?

864
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,000
Aristotle Pepperturtle.

865
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,000
Thanks so much for your support.

866
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,000
Let's shout out our moderators again.

867
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,000
I really appreciate our moderators being here.

868
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,000
Hoping to get some numbers for you soon.

869
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:59,000
Deadwing and Janet B. and Beth Mythical over there on YouTube and Ruth moderating over there.

870
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,000
Linda.

871
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:07,000
Belk Larry Misha over on X on Facebook. Sorry, we had to restart on Facebook. I don't know

872
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:15,700
what I don't know what was up with that. On Facebook, we have Kay Larry body has been

873
01:10:15,700 --> 01:10:26,040
there. Paul Anderson and our Twitch moderators. Bastion girl here say I'll be praried on.

874
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:34,560
I got that fire Matthew Kohai three and flux attorneys. Joe Brown says people acting like

875
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:51,080
changing who wins will stop the war. It won't says Joe Brown. I gotta check the site to see

876
01:10:51,080 --> 01:11:00,200
if the numbers are up yet. Nope. Still seeing no numbers on the official site. Not seeing

877
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:19,520
any numbers there. Patrick Johnston thinks the U.S. needs BB to lose. He owns the president.

878
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:32,220
Oh, I got a different video in. What is this video? What is that video? I have a video

879
01:11:32,220 --> 01:11:40,480
from Ben Gavier's headquarters too. So we'll have to keep an eye out on that. No one's

880
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:50,060
speaking yet. We got to what? When are people going to speak? How does Aizen caught? I

881
01:11:50,060 --> 01:11:54,620
would think that a bunch of people have whatever the fuck that means. I don't know if actually

882
01:11:54,620 --> 01:12:08,680
has been Gavir. He's in the cabinet and also a party leader. So I'm sure he'll speak. He's

883
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:16,240
the minister of national security. Ben Gavir. It tomorrow Ben Gavir. Current leader, minister

884
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:21,560
of national security. He's the leader of Atzma Yehudit, Jewish power, a far right, Kahanist

885
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:29,160
and anti Arab party. So I'm guessing he'll speak. I have a video from his event, but

886
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:39,280
he's not speaking yet. Vick Kay thinks the Arab coalition will forever change the political

887
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:46,360
landscape of Israel forever. It's a very, very critical time for Netanyahu. No, they would

888
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:51,560
never form a coalition government. I don't think we can hear what they're saying. They're

889
01:12:51,560 --> 01:13:03,520
playing. It's just loud music at that event. I can't hear what they're saying. They will

890
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:10,140
for power. I feel like that would be crazy for the Arab and the whatever side. No. Is

891
01:13:10,140 --> 01:13:15,360
it all? I mean, I, I believe the ballots are all, all the ones we saw were paper ballots.

892
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:28,120
So they, they just counted all by hand. Is that what they do? He is using a grant screen.

893
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:33,080
You can see it in the video listing. Oh, I'm looking this up. There shows Ethan's different

894
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:37,600
reactions to Tamara. We saw people putting ballots into a box. Justin said it's a hand

895
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:51,320
account. Okay. We'll look at that later. Because it's millions of ballots. Chat GPT is claiming

896
01:13:51,320 --> 01:14:04,760
it's by hand. Oh, so well, well, I guess eventually, maybe eventually we'll hear from the Central

897
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:24,160
Election Committee. Hold on. I can find this for you here. Wait. So is the Bolsonaro thing

898
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:29,040
mean that if Putin ever gets ousted, he'll escape to the US too? Yes. New York Times says

899
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:35,480
that Israel counts all its ballots by hand. There are 12,000, around 12,000 polling places

900
01:14:35,480 --> 01:14:47,360
are on the country. It takes hours to count the votes. And then, you know, get everything

901
01:14:47,360 --> 01:15:17,360
tabulated. I don't know how it long long it takes till people starts

902
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaking gosh, I've snarked with this goddamn it.

903
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:17,980
I am doing that.

904
01:15:17,980 --> 01:15:26,280
But we're here covering it for you, bringing you updates, keeping an eye on things.

905
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:55,980
I think I just saw a message from - is this - I'm not even sure.

906
01:15:55,980 --> 01:16:03,020
Whitney Layles, who is a Israeli reporter who I follow on Telegram.

907
01:16:03,020 --> 01:16:07,180
She posted a message that said, "The official results will be published gradually as the

908
01:16:07,180 --> 01:16:13,460
counting progresses and the data is processed."

909
01:16:13,460 --> 01:16:27,740
N12 News said that in the end, the final voter turnout was 77.7%.

910
01:16:27,740 --> 01:16:33,700
That's an increase of 7.1% from the last election, and it's the highest since 2001.

911
01:16:33,700 --> 01:16:40,900
But at one point, it was the highest since 1973 or something.

912
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:49,160
So it doesn't seem like maybe it was going to be - it seems like it's less of a record

913
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,260
than it was initially.

914
01:16:51,260 --> 01:16:53,760
It's less - you know what I'm saying?

915
01:16:53,760 --> 01:17:00,340
It didn't end up being - no, less of a record sounds wrong - but it sounds like it didn't

916
01:17:00,340 --> 01:17:07,740
keep up the same pace in a sense compared to the previous years.

917
01:17:07,740 --> 01:17:13,140
Because at one point, it was the most since 1973, then it was the most since 1980 something,

918
01:17:13,140 --> 01:17:17,420
and now it ended up the most since 2001.

919
01:17:17,420 --> 01:17:19,420
This is interesting.

920
01:17:19,420 --> 01:17:27,860
N12 News says that in the Arab sector, the voting rate was around 80%.

921
01:17:27,860 --> 01:17:31,740
Remember about 20% of Israelis are Arab Israelis.

922
01:17:31,740 --> 01:17:37,580
In the Arab sector, the voting rate was approximately 80%, which is more than the final voter turnout

923
01:17:37,580 --> 01:17:40,380
was 77.7%.

924
01:18:07,580 --> 01:18:13,340
So if you have any questions, are Israel's elections historically secure?

925
01:18:13,340 --> 01:18:14,340
Yeah, obviously.

926
01:18:14,340 --> 01:18:17,100
Israel's probably the country that's awarded the least about the security of their elections.

927
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:20,820
Since most election fraud or tampering, he's usually done with like a Jewish mastermind

928
01:18:20,820 --> 01:18:23,940
behind it all, and it was going to rig the Jewish elections.

929
01:18:23,940 --> 01:18:28,260
David thinks - David Joe Klotz thinks nobody will make a coalition with Arab parties because

930
01:18:28,260 --> 01:18:31,260
they will lose other coalition partners.

931
01:18:31,260 --> 01:18:54,940
That's what David thinks.

932
01:18:54,940 --> 01:19:05,580
Just to repeat, exit polling suggested - David has locked up for killing that little girl.

933
01:19:05,580 --> 01:19:06,580
Allegedly.

934
01:19:06,580 --> 01:19:11,980
Winning from AP, the exit polls released by a major Israeli TV station suggests that Netanyahu's

935
01:19:11,980 --> 01:19:18,380
block won 50 seats, the anti-netanyahu block won 52 or 53 seats.

936
01:19:18,380 --> 01:19:19,380
Oh, God.

937
01:19:19,380 --> 01:19:23,300
And Arab parties won 17 to 18 seats.

938
01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:24,860
Oh, man.

939
01:19:24,860 --> 01:19:30,340
You need 61 seats for a majority.

940
01:19:30,340 --> 01:19:34,580
Oh, no.

941
01:19:34,580 --> 01:19:35,780
What's happening?

942
01:19:35,780 --> 01:19:36,780
Wait.

943
01:19:36,780 --> 01:19:37,780
Oh, no.

944
01:19:37,780 --> 01:19:38,780
Hello.

945
01:19:38,780 --> 01:19:45,780
And neither the Netanyahu or the other or the anti-netanyahu block, both of them have said

946
01:19:45,780 --> 01:19:59,820
they don't want to work with the Arab parties.

947
01:19:59,820 --> 01:20:00,820
be my friend.

948
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:12,360
$100 move the market. It's low volume maybe. Maybe. Maybe we'll have some votes to show

949
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:23,120
you soon. No votes yet. No votes to show you. It still says, look, this is the official

950
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:28,160
site here. That's the official site waiting for the votes to be counted. They have two

951
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:33,440
people sitting there waiting in a clock. That's the official site. It says waiting

952
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:40,280
for the votes to be counted. Okay, hold on. I put a hundred and if I sell. Count is

953
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:44,200
going on by the way. When the odds move that much, wait, am I really not right?

954
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:55,120
That seems not like how it should be. Count is by hand. You can click on the

955
01:20:55,120 --> 01:21:11,440
order buck. Where is the order buck? Bear with me for a second here. I haven't

956
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:30,440
heard the beep in a while, which is fortunate. You have to check the order buck for a slip

957
01:21:30,440 --> 01:21:44,280
package. Shout out. Wait, where's, why am I crazy? Where's the order book for any of

958
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:49,760
these things? Oh, never mind. You know, I've seen a couple things in the media tonight.

959
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:57,600
Some speculation could because neither supposedly neither the Netanyahu parties, the Netanyahu

960
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:06,000
coalition nor the anti Netanyahu coalition. Neither of them reportedly wants to form a

961
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:13,040
coalition with the Arab parties. Could they get together and could the Netanyahu and anti

962
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:27,480
Netanyahu coalitions get together and form a unity government? I mean, and try to cobble

963
01:22:27,480 --> 01:22:38,720
together parties that way. I don't know, bra, why? As if they hold another election. Do

964
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,120
you lose your bet? David thinks yes. I think he usually says to the bottom. Mr. Bigley

965
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:50,360
on credible says, pay be right. Stickler for chains as I hope not. You know, another question

966
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:56,160
is if there's another election in a few months because nobody can form a government, are things

967
01:22:56,160 --> 01:23:00,440
going to be any different in the, in the next election? Or would it just be basically the

968
01:23:00,440 --> 01:23:21,920
same thing? Okay, let me get my drink along. Kurt MCW thinks doubtful with Bennett Golan

969
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:32,940
and Lapid likely being completely against it. Zetan thinks that the turnout would be lower.

970
01:23:32,940 --> 01:23:37,760
Hey, thanks. The Renee Lorraine and Fiona Diamond. I really appreciate it. Thanks for

971
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:45,760
your support. Also 10 to two. Thanks for being a member. Mad Erez who says too close to call

972
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:51,440
an IDF votes only come tomorrow. I haven't really heard about that. I mean, none of the

973
01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:56,400
media, I've, I agree that we don't know. I mean, I've told, as I've mentioned, some of

974
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:01,240
the articles have said that the results, you know, the exit polls results are not perfect.

975
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:09,400
I have not seen a single media outlet or reporter I follow suggest that somehow if it's true

976
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:23,880
what you say about IDF votes, that that's supposed to really change things. I mean,

977
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:29,920
I would assume that, that, that I don't know how that works, but I would assume that's,

978
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:35,960
that that's taken, that that's taken account of in the exit polling. The exit polling wouldn't

979
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:42,220
be very helpful if it didn't count this huge swath of votes that would really shift the

980
01:24:42,220 --> 01:24:42,840
results.

981
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:06,820
Also, do you mean like IDF people who are not in, because if people are in the country,

982
01:25:06,820 --> 01:25:09,920
wouldn't they just vote today?

983
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,920
I don't know.

984
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:15,680
But again, I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere as a major factor that would adjust the results.

985
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:39,360
Keeping an eye out for maybe one of the prominent politicians to come out and speak, which we

986
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:40,280
have not seen yet.

987
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:22,080
The Times of Israel says that soldiers are allowed to vote at civilian polling stations

988
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,080
today.

989
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:29,200
I don't know how many of them did that, or how many voted in military polling stations.

990
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:57,600
Well, what's going on?

991
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,680
Thanks for mentioning it, Joshua.

992
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:05,600
Yes, the Israel time is 6 hours ahead of the U.S. East Coast time.

993
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,080
So only 6 hours?

994
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:08,080
Is that true?

995
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:09,080
25.

996
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:14,440
I feel like Israel is so much more to the East.

997
01:27:14,440 --> 01:27:15,440
What time is it?

998
01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:18,440
And Israel.

999
01:27:18,440 --> 01:27:19,440
Tal Schneider.

1000
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:30,160
Jeez, excuse me.

1001
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,440
Who is, why don't you think you gave us 5 hours ahead?

1002
01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:39,680
And Europe is, oh, it's because of daylight savings, bullshit, isn't it?

1003
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:40,680
And it moves around.

1004
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:41,680
Okay, whatever.

1005
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:42,680
I don't know.

1006
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:43,680
Jesus.

1007
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:44,680
Whatever.

1008
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,440
And Israeli political correspondent I follow.

1009
01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:51,640
She says we'll know much more by Wednesday afternoon Israel time.

1010
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:59,240
She says that about 650,000 double envelope ballots are counted separately, potentially

1011
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:00,400
into Thursday.

1012
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,720
That might include some, I don't know if that's just military ballots or other ballots.

1013
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,680
I think that's what mad errors might be talking about.

1014
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:16,480
But any drama stuff yet, not yet.

1015
01:28:16,480 --> 01:28:20,080
Oh, I'm at seagull says, this is interesting.

1016
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,800
I'm at seagull who's an Israeli reporter.

1017
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:29,080
We were mentioning before that reporting that said that the turnout was something like 77.7%,

1018
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:32,760
but the Arab Israeli turnout was around 80%.

1019
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:36,520
I'm at seagull is reporting that for the first time in history, he says it appears Arab

1020
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:42,000
Israelis voted at a higher rate than Jews in Israel, although I guess some of them could

1021
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,000
be Jewish.

1022
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:52,280
But I think that you get the basic idea.

1023
01:28:52,280 --> 01:29:08,760
Yeah, 77.7%.

1024
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:28,960
That's our note.

1025
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:35,240
I also, I don't know when they speak, but I mean, I would, I would think that, I mean,

1026
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:39,160
it's, it's 1127 there, so I would think that some of the politicians that they're going

1027
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,120
to speak would not want to speak too late.

1028
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:47,080
Justin, it's so funny saying the contrast between Pokemon's reaction to David and now

1029
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:48,080
her treatment of Atriach.

1030
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:49,560
What do you mean?

1031
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:54,600
I don't, I seriously doubt Pokemon was hanging out with David after the fucking murder accusations

1032
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:55,600
now.

1033
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,720
Can we get some quick politics literacy?

1034
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,040
What are these polls for and what do they produce?

1035
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,800
Well, these are the Israeli elections for their Parliament. They call it the Knesset.

1036
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:17,560
Israel has a coalition-style multi-party system. And you need 63 seats, I think, to

1037
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:23,280
form a majority government. And so where all the polls are coming in, and so far, it seems

1038
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:27,840
like neither side of the main two coalitions of the two coalitions that exist have enough

1039
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:32,800
to form a government. No clear result. 61 seats are. Nobody can form a government. They will.

1040
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:39,480
Are he saying it? It's called a parliamentary system. There you go.

1041
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:09,200
I've got to keep an eye on here. I have the Ben Gavir's headquarters. He's Minister of

1042
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:14,400
Security, I believe. Hold on. Let me pull that video up here. I have a video from there,

1043
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:25,200
from Baudin. Maybe he'll speak soon. Somebody just went up to the microphone there at that

1044
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:33,380
location. Maybe he'll come out and speak soon. Hold on. So what I'm going to show you right

1045
01:31:33,380 --> 01:31:40,540
now, this is... Odds from another gambling website that has no one as an option. Is it

1046
01:31:40,540 --> 01:31:53,960
Kalshi? You can see other website names. I wonder if this is... I wonder if this site

1047
01:31:53,960 --> 01:32:01,880
uses... If they have slightly different rules, like an election is held again if they roll

1048
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:10,200
it all forward or whatever, like, or whatever butts to the next one. I don't know. It's

1049
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:16,960
banned from Chiang Mai. I know it gets confused with all of the things I have on the screen.

1050
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:27,200
This party is Jewish Power. Party. Is this Jewish Hassan? Hello? Am I crazy? A little?

1051
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:37,120
Party is Jewish Power. Party. Huh. I wonder if he'll speak soon. I have to put another

1052
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:42,120
thing on the screen. I got to get another caption up. How many captions do I need to have? This

1053
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:46,360
looks like something might happen soon, doesn't it? I'm going to change that. This is going

1054
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:55,840
to be... We're going to make this say, "This is live. Modin Israel." Modin Israel. This is

1055
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:59,360
the bin. That's what I... You said never to utter that website's name and your cultists

1056
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:14,200
took it seriously. I mean, dear leader. Event. Maybe he'll speak shortly. Oh, I disappeared

1057
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:19,800
myself. Sorry. Here we go. There he is. This kind of looks like somebody's going to speak

1058
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,520
soon, doesn't it? The guy's up there with the microphone. He's clapping. That's not Ben

1059
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:38,720
Gavir. Then I might have another video too. I've got to check for that. Yeah, this is the

1060
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:45,320
Ben Gavir headquarters. The Atzma... Atzma Yehudit. Jewish power party. There's people

1061
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:50,720
jumping up and down on the bottom. So remember, Ben Gavir is, as Wikipedia says, a far right

1062
01:33:50,720 --> 01:34:01,800
kahannist and anti-Arapardi leader who is the minister of national security. Now, Wikipedia

1063
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:06,560
says, "Itamar Ben Gavir is... His party is kahannist." And I looked that up and... Wikipedia

1064
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:19,160
says kahannism is a religious... Zionist ideology based on the views of Rabbi Mayor Kahani who

1065
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:31,120
believed that most Arabs living in Israel were enemies of Jews in Israel itself.

1066
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:37,680
"Grownman asks permission of another man to have a conversation on the internet knowing

1067
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,360
that without said permission he will be punished." So we're looking at that event right now because

1068
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:46,280
I think somebody might speak theore soon. Just to be clear, do you think his top donor

1069
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:53,920
is still doobie month after month after month? Hmm. "In somebody at the podium."

1070
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:11,920
that's what I'm going to do.

1071
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:12,920
>> Right. Nobody's speaking.

1072
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:17,400
>> Mad Eris, thank you. Mad Eris says they count idea votes in their exit poll.

1073
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:25,840
>> Thank you, Mad Eris, for mentioning that. I appreciate your support too. Again, this

1074
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:32,380
is this. Could you imagine if, like, can you imagine if Netanyahu in his coalition somehow,

1075
01:35:32,380 --> 01:35:36,840
I don't know how this would work out, but they win by literally one vote? And it turns

1076
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:40,440
out the only reason that one vote happened was because Ila was so mad at the world, she

1077
01:35:40,440 --> 01:35:44,440
voted for Netanyahu. And so the only reason Netanyahu stays in power is because of the

1078
01:35:44,440 --> 01:35:52,080
H3H3 drama that Ila going back to Israel. >> An ultra-nationalist party by Wikipedia.

1079
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:56,040
>> Wikipedia says this party advocates for the deportation of those who they consider

1080
01:35:56,040 --> 01:36:02,500
to be the enemies of Israel. The party has been widely described in the

1081
01:36:02,500 --> 01:36:08,400
international press, says Wikipedia, as extremist, ultra-nationalist, and racist organizations

1082
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:17,240
supporting Jewish supremacy. Again, I'm just reading some about this party from Wikipedia.

1083
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:32,240
In the previous election in 2022, they got six seats. Jesus. This party is a coalition

1084
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:46,840
party, coalition partner with Netanyahu's party. Sorry about my coffee. I forgot to meet

1085
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:52,640
myself. So it looks to me like somebody's going to speak here, so, okay, if anything happens,

1086
01:36:52,640 --> 01:37:03,940
let me know. Let's go do a little bit of drama sloppa. Oh, no. Oh, no. Three month difference

1087
01:37:03,940 --> 01:37:11,360
of Ethan's reactions to Ila saying Tamara looking like one of their kids.

1088
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:15,000
>> She was sitting with all and all the boys were like jumping on her and I was like, she

1089
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:18,520
looks like one of our kids. I think Sonny looks like Tamara.

1090
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:23,200
>> They chill for me. >> Oh, no. You stop it. You see it, right?

1091
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:27,800
You know what's always so funny to me is that she actually looks like our children. When

1092
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:32,920
Tamara holds Sonny, they look related. Why does Ethan look so scared?

1093
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:38,200
>> I don't know why you said that. >> It does. Every time she comes over, I'm like,

1094
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:43,520
look, you guys look so related. >> I don't know about that. Sounds racist, kind

1095
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:47,260
of. >> Race it? >> Yes, black people look the same.

1096
01:37:47,260 --> 01:37:50,440
>> All Jews look the same. >> Thanks. It looks like she could be actually

1097
01:37:50,440 --> 01:37:54,160
my child. >> I don't think so. >> Apparently, people

1098
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:58,320
say we have the same laugh, Ila. >> What? >> I don't know how to die.

1099
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,720
>> Yeah. >> We don't need to. >> We don't need to.

1100
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:08,720
>> The problem with the backwards analysis like this is like, it could be true or it could

1101
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:13,080
have been the lead into the topic. I don't know. Because I feel like they were so, they

1102
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:17,000
were so brazen about this, it would be weird for him to have an issue without a plan to

1103
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:24,520
the joke if he is trying to cheat and get away with it too. No, I don't know. Who knows?

1104
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:49,080
>> Wait, so in the first clip, Ethan agrees, and in the last he's discussed, do you think

1105
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:53,240
it means something? I mean, it could be or it could literally just be, it depends on the

1106
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:57,480
lead into the jokes or whatever is going on. It's hard to say, right? You can find times

1107
01:38:57,480 --> 01:39:03,680
where keep playing the clip you played the first half. What? This was the whole thing.

1108
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:19,360
>> We don't need to. We don't need to. >> Wasn't it six months of fair? It's a January

1109
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:40,240
sweats before, or am I dumb? That's what Ela's tweet said.

1110
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:59,720
>> Hold on. Ela's the one who said it was a six month affair, but I mean, she also could

1111
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:09,720
[BLANK_AUDIO]

1112
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:05,000
And she could have just been like estimating like, you know,

1113
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,520
because she's not going to say like it was four months

1114
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,000
and three weeks and two days she, and who knows.

1115
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:11,360
So it could have been longer, could have been shorter.

1116
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:12,600
Once she's counted the affair starting,

1117
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:13,440
could have, like we don't really have

1118
01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:16,080
any specific information on any of that, right?

1119
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:17,680
It's impossible to say, you know?

1120
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:27,520
What was going on with the one girl, Trisha?

1121
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:35,840
Was Trisha and the Tamara girl,

1122
01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:38,520
were they talking to each other?

1123
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:40,680
Or somebody said that Tamara was in Trisha's live,

1124
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,240
but I don't know if they meant like in their chat

1125
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:47,240
or on stream or she went live.

1126
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:49,640
Wait, what link?

1127
01:40:58,360 --> 01:40:59,480
No, I feel like if that was true,

1128
01:40:59,480 --> 01:41:02,520
I feel like, I feel like people would have been

1129
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:03,800
spamming the link to that like crazy.

1130
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:04,620
There's no way.

1131
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,120
I think Trisha is married to Ela's brother.

1132
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:09,640
Yeah, it's even his brother-in-law, right?

1133
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,280
There was the whole drama and the fallout and everything.

1134
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:23,560
(speaking in foreign language)

1135
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:31,040
No, punk.

1136
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,000
Am I supposed to know what the hoodie means?

1137
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:35,240
He put on the emo hoodie.

1138
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,240
I think this is Trisha's response to Destiny.

1139
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,000
It was definitely the most, like, old.

1140
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:48,200
It was definitely the most, like,

1141
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:49,920
altering thing for my brain to go through.

1142
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:51,520
It was really, really difficult.

1143
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:52,400
Holy Jesus.

1144
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:54,040
And I think from that time,

1145
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,960
I was like, I cannot engage anymore

1146
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:58,960
and talk about them anymore.

1147
01:41:58,960 --> 01:41:59,800
And it was just really hard.

1148
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:01,560
And it was hard for both me and Moses, obviously.

1149
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,080
So we kind of made that decision together.

1150
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:05,660
(upbeat music)

1151
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,280
- Can they really talk about this for two hours?

1152
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,520
Or this is probably just one of the topics that they bring up.

1153
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,120
(upbeat music)

1154
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:32,200
(laughing)

1155
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:36,720
- Today's episode is brought to you

1156
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:38,760
by Hulu's new original series, The Mob.

1157
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:39,600
Check out The Mob.

1158
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:41,920
- She only talks about it for the last 40 minutes.

1159
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:43,360
- And because the person who liked them

1160
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:44,600
are because they didn't get engaged.

1161
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:45,440
- Yeah.

1162
01:42:45,440 --> 01:42:46,280
- 'Cause they're like, oh, no,

1163
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:47,120
I'm not gonna be on the show.

1164
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:48,840
- Yeah, you can't go on the vacation.

1165
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,480
- So I think now, Trisha Paytas is a chronic liar

1166
01:42:51,480 --> 01:42:53,640
and sh*tster.

1167
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:56,800
- People are just walking in knowing exactly the target

1168
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:58,520
of getting engaged as fast as possible.

1169
01:42:58,520 --> 01:42:59,680
No matter what.

1170
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:02,200
And then you end up with couples that completely don't matter.

1171
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:03,040
- I know.

1172
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:03,860
And it's all the wrong reasons, like you said,

1173
01:43:03,860 --> 01:43:04,760
just like they're talking about their looks.

1174
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:06,280
They're talking about like how much money they have.

1175
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:07,920
It's just like the solos want anymore.

1176
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,640
Like it should, they should just like,

1177
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:12,040
I guess they can't really censor them.

1178
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:13,740
I'm like, they should just eliminate them

1179
01:43:13,740 --> 01:43:15,320
if they talk about their looks or something.

1180
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:16,480
- Oh, that's actually the idea.

1181
01:43:16,480 --> 01:43:17,480
- Like make this the tire.

1182
01:43:17,480 --> 01:43:18,680
- Yeah, like you really need to focus.

1183
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:19,520
But everyone is saying like,

1184
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,740
- Whoa, what happened?

1185
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,520
- He's in caught, he's shooting up.

1186
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:29,540
What's going on here?

1187
01:43:37,620 --> 01:43:38,460
- Oh, not her.

1188
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:42,320
- Now he left the podium.

1189
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:45,280
- Okay, we'll see.

1190
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:46,800
- They're asking ethnicity, they're background.

1191
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:48,200
Like also, I'm like, okay, I'm not French.

1192
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:49,040
- Yeah.

1193
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:49,880
- 'Cause you might go to see each other then

1194
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:50,720
and pick each other.

1195
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:51,560
'Cause five times a week, it's like,

1196
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:52,400
- Oh my God, I forgot about that guy.

1197
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:53,400
Oh my God, yes, you're right.

1198
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:54,920
- But there's always a guy like that every season

1199
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:56,000
and they always want to know how much they've worked out

1200
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,360
and if they like the gym and it's just like, what?

1201
01:43:58,360 --> 01:43:59,200
- I forgot that.

1202
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:01,840
- Treasure is like, lab on those vegan gained steroids.

1203
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:05,520
Here's the real timestamp.

1204
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:06,800
- But so, all right.

1205
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:08,960
So this is like a little bit of a hard transition

1206
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:13,960
and obviously, like, really, really hard to talk about.

1207
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:16,840
And obviously it's very sensitive.

1208
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:18,520
It's Moses' family.

1209
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:20,400
It's a hard boundary.

1210
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:22,880
We've drawn for literally the past five years

1211
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:26,320
to never ever mention Ethan and Hila.

1212
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:28,240
It was just something we set five years ago, obviously.

1213
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:29,800
- Is there going to be anything new here?

1214
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:31,200
It's just going to be them talking about it, no?

1215
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:32,040
Is it what?

1216
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:33,440
- Went through a really dark time in 2021,

1217
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:35,880
really awful psychosis that was.

1218
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:37,000
It was definitely the most like altering thing

1219
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:37,840
for my brain to go through.

1220
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:38,680
It was really, really difficult.

1221
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:39,560
And I think from that time, I was like,

1222
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:42,200
I cannot engage anymore and talk about them anymore.

1223
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:43,040
And it was just really hard.

1224
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:43,880
And it was hard for both of me and Moses, obviously.

1225
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:45,120
So we kind of made that decision together

1226
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:46,080
like for my own mental health and stuff.

1227
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:47,320
And, you know, I pleaded at the time

1228
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:48,160
if we could just call it truce

1229
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:49,000
and never talk about each other anymore,

1230
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:49,840
especially because we were family

1231
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:53,720
involved that's not online and just like, make it easier for everyone, obviously, I was not met with any grace or compassion

1232
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:54,800
when I was just like, I sent private text.

1233
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:56,880
And I was just like, please, please, like, I am like spiraling, I'm mentally unwell.

1234
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:58,080
Like, can we just end this?

1235
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,080
And I was met with like zero.

1236
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:01,000
Oh, grace or compassion for either of them.

1237
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:01,680
And they said, we'll never stop.

1238
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:02,440
You don't get to tell us what to do.

1239
01:45:02,440 --> 01:45:04,540
And ever since then, I realized it will never stop.

1240
01:45:04,540 --> 01:45:07,200
And-- oh, my God, I was like, there.

1241
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:08,440
Oh, my God.

1242
01:45:08,440 --> 01:45:10,320
And again, I stopped not out of fear of them,

1243
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:12,240
although it's been living in fear for the past five years.

1244
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,200
Just always worried about them talking about us

1245
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:16,040
at any given time, and because we made that decision

1246
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:17,960
instead of not having to defend ourselves.

1247
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:18,600
There was just no point.

1248
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:19,620
There was just no point.

1249
01:45:19,620 --> 01:45:21,000
From the end of front of me, it was just lies.

1250
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:22,280
And nobody wanted to hear from me.

1251
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:23,440
Nobody wanted to believe me.

1252
01:45:23,440 --> 01:45:25,840
I've been just ridiculed for the past five years

1253
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,080
about everything from my child molestation

1254
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,320
to being accused of lying about fertility.

1255
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,720
It was not ranting.

1256
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,040
Out of what happened between her and Ethan,

1257
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,280
I am literally the worst person on the planet you could ever

1258
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:38,960
ask that question to.

1259
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:43,680
This is probably one of the most intense, long-standing,

1260
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:47,800
back-and-forth fandom dramas on the entire fucking internet.

1261
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,560
This is like, of all of internet podcast stuff,

1262
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:55,360
the more the most BCAD time-splitting thing that happened,

1263
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:57,360
and I don't know anything, fuck all about it.

1264
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:03,960
Anybody that watches H3, H3, it's a whole thing.

1265
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:04,720
It's a whole thing.

1266
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:05,520
I don't know anything about it.

1267
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:06,960
Don't ask me about it.

1268
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,360
Obviously, all this other happened over the past weekend.

1269
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:10,960
It was just a lot of emotions.

1270
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:12,120
I'm going to let Moses do it like Moses was talking.

1271
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:13,280
Obviously, I have a lot to say.

1272
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:14,560
But I've been doing--

1273
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:15,800
I was there for the whole front of me.

1274
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:17,160
Sagah, she was a chronic liar.

1275
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:19,760
I almost caught several times, but she's entertaining for sure.

1276
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:24,320
Yeah, so basically, the only things I know are--

1277
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,560
there's an-- oh, I don't even know.

1278
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,640
There is some crossover between the H3, H3 world and My World.

1279
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:32,400
And especially when Ethan did his whole fucking pedo piece

1280
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,600
on me or whatever, there were a lot of people that reached out

1281
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,040
to me, mainly girl viewers, from the H3 world.

1282
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,800
And then I kind of chat with him, and people update me on stuff.

1283
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:42,880
And so I'm just-- this is a selection bias.

1284
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,560
OK, Drasuna, maybe it's not true of everything.

1285
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:46,720
But it seems to be that most people

1286
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,440
think that Trisha is kind of like a little bit crazy

1287
01:46:50,440 --> 01:46:53,280
and prone to super lying and mega dramatic.

1288
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,600
But she's like infinitely more entertaining in this world

1289
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,440
than like Ethan and his show was.

1290
01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:02,960
That like Ethan and the stuff that they do is maybe a bit more--

1291
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:05,800
I don't know how you would say this, like a peeling--

1292
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,400
it's just more milk toast, I guess.

1293
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,720
But like the Trisha paid stuff is like mega-ultra-drama,

1294
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:12,720
crazy entertainment stuff.

1295
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:14,840
And then a lot of people like it, even

1296
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:18,240
when they recognize that she's problematic or lies

1297
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:19,560
about everything, I don't know.

1298
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,560
So I don't know how much of that is true for anything,

1299
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:23,560
but that's--

1300
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,280
Yeah, supposedly frenemies was like peak popularity

1301
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:39,600
for the age three shit and everything too.

1302
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:40,280
So all right.

1303
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:41,160
Well, frenemies, I might mind more.

1304
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:42,400
This book has been two years in the making,

1305
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:43,640
so I did not know, obviously, and this happened.

1306
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:44,640
We didn't know any of this.

1307
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,440
And literally until everyone else found out,

1308
01:47:46,440 --> 01:47:47,440
like people had to tell us.

1309
01:47:47,440 --> 01:47:49,040
And I mentioned it's mostly-- it's always between me and Ethan.

1310
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:50,520
There's a few mentions of Keel in the book.

1311
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:52,160
But all the interviews I've done, that will be coming out

1312
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:54,760
in the next couple weeks, were done prior, where I talk about

1313
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:55,840
just Ethan for the first time.

1314
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:57,200
Because again, it really was between me.

1315
01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:58,600
And I've literally probably met Hila literally

1316
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:00,840
a handful of times in the nine months that I did front of me.

1317
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,520
So it was always between me and him.

1318
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:04,120
And it was hard.

1319
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:06,400
It's been hard because I was terrified of retaliation

1320
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:08,880
and just lies again and just more smear campaigns.

1321
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:10,680
And it was really-- it was hard to talk about.

1322
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:12,640
But I thought if I was writing memoir,

1323
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:14,520
I can't just skip that chapter.

1324
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:17,560
I wanted to be able to talk about it in a clear head.

1325
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:19,400
And when I talked about-- again, before all this happens,

1326
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,280
I'll keep in mind all these interviews happen before.

1327
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,120
What I talk about is having a real fondness,

1328
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:25,280
fond memories of the time of front of me.

1329
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:26,840
Everything during front of me is whether we were--

1330
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:28,720
he was being triggered or I was triggering him or we were all--

1331
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:30,200
Oh, I will say.

1332
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:31,880
I don't know what actually happened.

1333
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:36,480
I don't know what the inciting moment was or why they all

1334
01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:37,720
broke up.

1335
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:39,880
I don't know if-- I actually don't know if everyone asks.

1336
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:45,680
I'm not sure what the 5% argument ended front of me is.

1337
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:47,120
What is the 5% argument?

1338
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:54,680
June 2021.

1339
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:01,480
Lymphaeo 5%, she wanted to be paid more.

1340
01:49:01,480 --> 01:49:03,080
Yilla didn't like Trisha dating Moses.

1341
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:09,480
5% body fat is easily attainable.

1342
01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:11,480
5% everything.

1343
01:49:11,480 --> 01:49:13,080
I heard Moses was-- OK, I don't know.

1344
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:13,880
All right.

1345
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:14,680
Awful people at the time.

1346
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:16,680
In my mind, front of me was a fun time for me.

1347
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:18,280
Like it was like a great time, those nine months.

1348
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,480
It was the aftermath of front of me is that destroyed us

1349
01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:24,400
and destroyed me as a person and lost all respect for Ethan.

1350
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:25,480
You know, it was awful.

1351
01:49:25,480 --> 01:49:26,280
It was really awful.

1352
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:29,480
So I've been talking and just sharing my view of all that time

1353
01:49:29,480 --> 01:49:31,240
and taking my fault and accountability of the end

1354
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,480
of front of me is in the way I treated Ethan and Yilla.

1355
01:49:33,480 --> 01:49:34,640
But it was the aftermath that I really

1356
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:36,280
wanted to make clear that--

1357
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:37,880
clear mining because there was just a lot of lies.

1358
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:39,280
All that to say, I'm kind of like going off the track

1359
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,080
a little bit because it's whatever.

1360
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:42,480
So you can read in the book, you can read interviews,

1361
01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:44,680
but obviously everything that's happened in the past, you know,

1362
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:46,680
72 hours, whatever, it's hard to talk about.

1363
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:48,480
I see a lot of people that were wrong by Ethan.

1364
01:49:48,480 --> 01:49:52,080
You know, obviously celebrating, rejoicing, you know.

1365
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:53,680
I don't feel that way about it, obviously,

1366
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:55,080
because it's, again, it's mostly family.

1367
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:56,400
We also have kids the same age.

1368
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:59,080
I couldn't imagine-- we talk about it all the time.

1369
01:49:59,080 --> 01:49:59,980
and obviously with autism.

1370
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,640
It's like there's there's just sensitivity involved. Of course, um, I will just say

1371
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,960
This sounds manipulative and I don't like to phrase it this way

1372
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:11,580
But like honest to God like a lot of the best quote-unquote manipulative strategies

1373
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:16,100
Like really are just kind of like if you can be a really good person in show that you're a good person

1374
01:50:16,100 --> 01:50:18,720
Like it tends to you know make people like you a little bit more

1375
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:23,720
I can understand going really hard on people and not liking people and you know

1376
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:28,680
Yeah, going hard people not like people because of things they've done and you maybe there's like a good reason to but like

1377
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,640
Once it's over and like you've won and it's done. I

1378
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:38,400
Think I don't even want to say being the bigger person but being like magnanimous and in victory

1379
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:39,800
It sounds really weird to phrase it that way

1380
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:46,280
But like just chilling you always look so much better and I think that um dancing on somebody's grave

1381
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:51,920
Unless they're like like literally like a fucking pedophile or something like crazy almost always looks bad

1382
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,160
so like

1383
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:59,840
Like her take care is correct and that even if you hate it Ethan even if you were like fucking you know fighting this dude to the

1384
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:05,600
Death that like your Hassan or whatever the whole like dancing on his grave and the laughing at everything and like the family is fucking destroyed

1385
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:10,760
And all that is like it's pretty wild. There's no reason to to to push it that hard. It makes you look kind of unhinged

1386
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:15,040
Or thing personally, I just you know, I hate to say that I felt

1387
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:21,800
Like I just kind of felt relief that maybe it's over when he announced the podcast was over

1388
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:26,480
Just felt like relief and that makes me really like sad and like I'm really like a shame. Oh wait, hold on

1389
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:34,640
So Ethan said that five percent of the podcast was to age three Trisha was like what the fuck what does that money even go

1390
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:39,400
She wanted to fund her own stuff to slash be involved in creative processes Ethan felt like she didn't deserve the extra money

1391
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:45,680
Oh damn well to say that because um it's an awful situation like the way that that had to end

1392
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:50,680
But I've been praying it'll truly truly every day for the past five years for like it just to end

1393
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:55,760
I would reach out to everybody that I possibly could anyone I knew at YouTube my agents like anyone anyone

1394
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:57,960
Obviously, we tried through Moses his family to get them to stop

1395
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:01,040
We tried everything and not only was it met with zero grace and zero compassion

1396
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:03,400
But just more Italian even in his crew were not good people at all

1397
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:07,840
Yeah, one of the hardest things to sort through from the outside is when both sides are making mistakes

1398
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:13,160
It's very hard to know anything about like what's real or what's not real because obviously everybody's gonna have their story

1399
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:17,560
And then the fandoms are all gonna have their stories and so it becomes very difficult to figure out like who's in the right or who's in the wrong

1400
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:20,600
especially when both parties are kind of

1401
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,760
Like that like I feel like I grew up

1402
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:31,320
Man I grew up on the internet and one of my earliest is kind of embarrassing as it is to say I guess

1403
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:37,580
Well, no, not really. I think a lot of men grow up like me like the you have like the the edgy like the house type

1404
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:43,640
Personas that become like influential to you Maddox was a big one growing up everybody read his website

1405
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:46,480
Right the Maddox dot x mission dot com for the for your Maddox posts

1406
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:53,200
He posted a lot more frequently and then he didn't post as much, but I grew up really liking all the the Maddox stuff

1407
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:55,840
If you don't know who it is, don't worry about it, okay?

1408
01:52:56,120 --> 01:53:00,720
but then there was the huge fight that happened between him and

1409
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:10,720
Dick with their big split over the biggest problem in the universe their podcast and I feel like my my first take on that was that

1410
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:13,760
well, I like Maddox and the

1411
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:20,480
The dick guy seemed a little bit unhinged and then Maddox did his whole like lawsuit thing and everything

1412
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:26,640
And then it seemed like maybe Maddox was the plot was getting away from him a little bit

1413
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:32,480
And then it did seem kind of like overblown and then I spent a little bit of time going back through some of that

1414
01:53:32,480 --> 01:53:34,720
I don't have a fully flush at our point of informed opinion

1415
01:53:34,820 --> 01:53:42,360
but in going back a little bit I kind of feel like Maddox maybe had a little bit more legitimate of a grievance there than people ever gave him credit for that

1416
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:49,120
That dick and his audience and fan base were actually like kind of sort of fucking unhinged towards

1417
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:56,180
Towards Maddox and his girlfriend everything so I don't know but that's like a whole fucking

1418
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,320
That's a whole other thing

1419
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:08,540
Vito dropped kick of that proud podcast by the way Vito you mean

1420
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:13,800
The guy who did the comp was his name Vito the comic guy

1421
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:20,200
Wait, did he actually leave oh my god

1422
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:26,320
Or they split so it wasn't it wasn't a mean do you remember when we were falling that drama a long time ago because dick

1423
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:30,440
Could always make fun of the comic stuff and then Vito would pretend like he didn't care that much

1424
01:54:30,440 --> 01:54:35,340
But it kind of seemed like he actually really did care and everybody even you guys sometimes were like oh no

1425
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:40,600
Vito is just trolling all the time, but like Vito was like spam phone calling dick and real life

1426
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:44,480
And then you guys were like oh no, that's like part of the troll and I think even

1427
01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:47,720
Even dick might have said that on the show that was part of the troll

1428
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:53,520
But it really didn't seem like Vito was trolling seems like he was like the I don't know bro all of that was crazy Jesus

1429
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:56,280
Whatever. Yeah. Oh my god

1430
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:59,120
Asian it would just make them more upset if we try to get help and and

1431
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,360
it just was this nightmare. So I just felt, once I saw that the podcast was ending, it felt,

1432
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:08,240
I felt relieved and it's a really sad thing to say. And so it was just a lot of emotions.

1433
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:14,800
And obviously I can just defer to Moses on the rest of this. But, you know, I feel like I'm pretty

1434
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:20,240
healed and pretty, we got through the storm. That was what we've dealt with for the five years,

1435
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:23,680
barely, because it just this past year, it still was brought up, things were still brought up,

1436
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:27,680
and I was just like, God, it's like never going to end. So it feels like the end to this, like,

1437
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:32,240
harassment. And it felt, it felt like a relief. But again, these are people we know it's Moses,

1438
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:36,240
his family that he's known. Anyways, I can let you take it. It's like someone he's known his

1439
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:40,800
entire life, both of everyone involved. And he's lost the most. He said the least in all of this,

1440
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:45,920
Moses has never said anything publicly ever about any of them, like anything that's happened.

1441
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:51,680
He sat quiet. He's and he said the least and has lost the most. And then Moses is,

1442
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:58,640
Ela's brother would like to say. Yeah, because we, I mean, I made a decision to never talk about

1443
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:07,040
family for, you know, drama for views or whatever it is that they were doing. And for me, it was

1444
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:13,440
like, I chose to go no contact with them. Who do you think if you watched or kept up with both

1445
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:18,240
shows, who was the one bringing up the other one more after everything got cut off? Like, did

1446
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:22,720
the H3 people, were they bringing up Trisha more and more? Or do they all basically stop

1447
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,440
bringing up each other? Or do they both bring up each other about equal amounts or what?

1448
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:33,520
Oh, M.E.S. has Ethan for sure. Some people say Trisha, some people say Ethan. Trisha barely ever

1449
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:37,920
talked about him such as family. Some people say Ethan. The extra 5% Ethan got was because all

1450
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:47,040
Trisha did was show up in film. Ethan paid for the studio. The sad to make over. Hold on,

1451
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:55,280
this is kind of short, apparently. We might have watched this a long time ago, did we?

1452
01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:01,520
Awesome, misogynistic. But okay, keep going. Bobbie Lee and Kalilah, another female.

1453
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:05,440
We got some really good guests coming up too. Promo them right now. Okay, promo that. I hope

1454
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:10,560
we get some more views to the H3 podcast. Oh, you know, I hear just for you, I'm just going to give

1455
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:13,760
this away for you right now. Belle Delphine is going to be on in the 20th. Whoa, holy shit,

1456
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:18,480
how'd you get her? Exactly. I'm not saying her stuff is real great. You don't get my

1457
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:20,960
asshole. It doesn't even have toilet paper in it. Oh, okay. So you got Belle Delphine when you

1458
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:23,440
unboxed up. No one even cared. It didn't even get a million views a while because that's dead and

1459
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:26,080
done. Just like James Charles, you're just trying to beat that in her. But my life isn't about views.

1460
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:28,800
It literally is about views. All you care about is working. Okay, hold on. I got to read it right

1461
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:32,320
for me to notice because these guys are already fucking mad at each other. Hey, I turned out

1462
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:34,800
fine. You know, having two Christmas super days ain't a bad thing. You're saying turned out fine.

1463
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:38,640
I was like, oh shit. Oh my god, look who's talking. I would never say I turned out fine. I

1464
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:47,680
literally would never say I turned out fine. Even though I did. I turned out okay. No, just because you make money. But you're way crazier. That's so not true. But you're way crazier than me. That's not true. Bro, that's objectively. You're you

1465
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:57,520
hide it more just like Mikey who hides shit. It gets brought to the circle. I don't hide anything. I literally you literally just say how honest I am and you respect that about you hide the craziest. What I'm saying. Yeah, you don't share a lot. I don't hide. You do hide. I'm all a rumor saying tomorrow

1466
01:57:57,520 --> 01:58:08,400
might be pregnant. Bro, if you don't see anything like solid, I would never. There's a trillion dumb ways you could speculate on shit. Stop. All out there with no fucking eyebrows and everything. You were into pills. You never

1467
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:11,160
- Never talk about that, that you were a pill addict for a minute.

1468
01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:12,000
- What?

1469
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:12,840
- Yeah, you said that, you said you were really into pills,

1470
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:13,680
and you don't talk about that.

1471
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:14,520
- Well, why do I need to talk about that?

1472
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:15,680
- Because that's being open, that you're judging me

1473
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:18,280
for being crazy, taking pills, or whatever, like I take pills,

1474
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:19,320
or whatever, but you've done it too,

1475
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:20,160
and you're just not open about it.

1476
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:21,000
- I don't hide anything.

1477
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:21,840
I literally don't. - I literally don't.

1478
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:23,840
- Fucking, you know, people with dysfunctional family,

1479
01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:24,720
like Mikey who hides shit.

1480
01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:25,560
- Oh, really?

1481
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:26,400
- It gets brought to the surface here.

1482
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:27,240
- I don't hide anything, I literally don't.

1483
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:28,080
- You literally just said how honest I am,

1484
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:28,920
and you respected about it.

1485
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:43,000
- I don't hide the craziest way I'm saying, yeah, you don't share a lot.

1486
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:44,400
- I don't hide it, I don't hide the craziest way.

1487
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,080
- I'm all out there, I'm with no fucking eyebrows and everything.

1488
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:47,080
- You don't talk about it.

1489
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:47,920
- You don't talk about it.

1490
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:48,920
- You were into pills, you never talk about that,

1491
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:49,920
that you were a pill addict for a minute.

1492
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:50,920
- What?

1493
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:51,920
- Yeah, you said that, you said you were really into pills,

1494
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:52,920
and you don't talk about that.

1495
01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:53,920
- Well, why do I need to talk about that?

1496
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:54,920
- Because that's being open, that you're judging me

1497
01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:56,920
for being crazy, taking pills, or whatever, like I take pills,

1498
01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:57,920
or whatever, but you've done it too, and you're just not open about it.

1499
01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:02,920
- Something, or just like fucking, like an SSRI or something.

1500
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:03,920
- Characteristic of who I am?

1501
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:04,920
- I think that is a big thing, that makes sense.

1502
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:05,920
Why?

1503
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:06,920
Because you're on medication now, and there's no shame or judgment in it,

1504
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:08,920
but like, hey, if you're going to shame me for being off meds,

1505
01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:09,920
you should say, hey, I'm on meds.

1506
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:10,920
- I'm not shaming you for being off meds.

1507
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:11,920
- That's what it sounds like, you just call me crazy.

1508
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:12,920
- You know what you just did?

1509
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:15,920
You're trying to see, this is why you are such a dangerous person,

1510
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:17,920
especially to be close with, because you'll take something I told you,

1511
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:19,920
and you'll take something that somebody told you in confidence,

1512
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:21,920
and you'll use it, you'll weaponize it against them.

1513
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:22,920
- That's not true.

1514
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:27,920
- That's not true.

1515
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,920
- Was this podcast live?

1516
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:33,920
That's kind of a crazy thing to just dump live, if that's okay.

1517
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:34,920
- No, I know.

1518
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:35,920
- I'm lucky for you, I don't care, and I'm okay with it.

1519
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:36,920
- No.

1520
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:38,920
- But you go, oh, I told you an anecdote about how I used to take,

1521
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:41,920
what's the epramidal back in Israel when I was like bored in a dead end job,

1522
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:43,920
and you literally just weaponize that against me.

1523
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:44,920
- You call me crazy, knowing my history.

1524
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:45,920
- No, we always call you crazy.

1525
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:46,920
You're like up front crazy.

1526
01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:48,920
- But you're going to call me crazy, and I'm going to say,

1527
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:50,920
hey, I'm going up to what you've done, that's awesome and crazy.

1528
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:51,920
- That doesn't make you crazy.

1529
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:52,920
- Okay, I'm joking around.

1530
01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:54,920
And then you go, okay, so what do I have to weaponize against Ethan?

1531
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:56,920
Oh, he told me he used to take those in Israel.

1532
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:57,920
I don't think he's ever said that.

1533
01:59:57,920 --> 01:59:58,920
So here, I'm going to drop that on him.

1534
01:59:58,920 --> 01:59:59,920
- You want me to weaponize you?

1535
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:00,840
having like an actually weaponize you.

1536
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:02,180
- No, but I don't do it.

1537
02:00:02,180 --> 02:00:03,020
There's certain things.

1538
02:00:03,020 --> 02:00:03,860
- You just did it.

1539
02:00:03,860 --> 02:00:04,700
- Most of those are certain things I would never say.

1540
02:00:04,700 --> 02:00:05,540
- And you just threatened me with doing it more.

1541
02:00:05,540 --> 02:00:06,380
That's why you're so dangerous.

1542
02:00:06,380 --> 02:00:07,220
You can't do that.

1543
02:00:07,220 --> 02:00:08,060
- No, I didn't.

1544
02:00:08,060 --> 02:00:08,900
- You do that to everybody.

1545
02:00:08,900 --> 02:00:09,740
- I know personal things about you and do I say it?

1546
02:00:09,740 --> 02:00:10,580
No.

1547
02:00:10,580 --> 02:00:11,420
- You literally just did.

1548
02:00:11,420 --> 02:00:12,260
- That's not that personal,

1549
02:00:12,260 --> 02:00:13,260
because you just want me crazy being off in medication.

1550
02:00:13,260 --> 02:00:15,620
- Not to be sexist, but I feel like that's a woman thing.

1551
02:00:15,620 --> 02:00:17,420
I don't know if I would say it's a woman thing.

1552
02:00:17,420 --> 02:00:20,380
One of the big issues when you do content like this,

1553
02:00:20,380 --> 02:00:22,140
and keep in mind I don't watch these shit.

1554
02:00:22,140 --> 02:00:28,700
Maybe this doesn't even issue with these people, but like, you gotta be really careful with doing like aggro content with another person.

1555
02:00:28,700 --> 02:00:35,660
Like sometimes it might be required verbal actual check-ins, because sometimes it's easy to get into areas where somebody's like genuinely hurt.

1556
02:00:35,660 --> 02:00:42,980
And then you don't realize it, and you can push that really far really fast, and then all of a sudden somebody's like mega, mega, mega upset.

1557
02:00:42,980 --> 02:00:49,380
And I don't know if I would say it takes a lot of social awareness not to do it, or like you just have to check in because people don't know.

1558
02:00:49,380 --> 02:00:55,460
This reminds me of kinda like melting pot drama a little bit, where people are, they're joking about things, and it's kinda like all a troll and a meme.

1559
02:00:55,460 --> 02:01:02,180
But it's over subjects that people can have legitimate feelings on, and then all of a sudden somebody's actually now like really, really, really, really upset.

1560
02:01:02,180 --> 02:01:07,820
And then the conversation will get away from you very fast, because they're gonna start dropping things to make you upset, and then now everybody's legitimately fucking hating each other.

1561
02:01:09,820 --> 02:01:17,220
But yeah, I'm saying all this without knowing, like maybe calling her crazy was just like a meme, and she actually didn't care, or whatever.

1562
02:01:17,220 --> 02:01:23,300
But then it's hard to say 'cause I see people who do things like the worst thing, and I don't say anything 'cause it's not for me to say or whatever.

1563
02:01:23,300 --> 02:01:33,980
The most awkward thing is an empath, is when I meet a friend, and then I am introduced to their group of friends, and then I step into like a friend group dynamic.

1564
02:01:33,980 --> 02:01:42,740
And then I notice that there is behavior that's happening, that somebody's actually not okay with, but it feels like nobody is actually aware of it.

1565
02:01:42,740 --> 02:01:53,100
I don't know if it's all like a group coke thing, or if it's, I'm not sure how to speak to it sometimes, but sometimes you step into a group and you're like, "Hold on, there's this person that you guys are always like shooting at."

1566
02:01:53,100 --> 02:02:12,580
I don't think this guy actually enjoys this, I don't think this guy actually likes this interaction, but obviously as an outsider I could never, 'cause they'll just say, "Oh, you don't get it," or whatever, like that definitely happens sometimes, it's very weird, but I just gave all of that, I don't know for this, it could be that this woman is actually crazy, or that Ethan jokes about this all the time, and it's not fair for her to bring it.

1567
02:02:12,580 --> 02:02:13,580
I really don't know.

1568
02:02:13,580 --> 02:02:15,580
- I didn't say anything about being off your medicine.

1569
02:02:15,580 --> 02:02:17,580
- And then you asked me, I literally didn't mention being off your medicine.

1570
02:02:17,580 --> 02:02:18,580
- No, no, then you asked me.

1571
02:02:18,580 --> 02:02:19,580
- I said you're crazier than me.

1572
02:02:19,580 --> 02:02:21,580
- Oh, I said you're not open and honest with everything, you're like, "Yes, I'm open, I'm like, are you though?"

1573
02:02:21,580 --> 02:02:24,580
- It's not that I'm hiding that I took pills, it's just, you used it, it's not okay.

1574
02:02:24,580 --> 02:02:30,580
- Push somebody to the level, I'm like saying this, this and this, and now it's like, "Now you're weaponizing me, you push and push and push, constantly, you do."

1575
02:02:30,580 --> 02:02:31,580
- No, you're fucked up.

1576
02:02:31,580 --> 02:02:33,580
- You're fucked up, you're the pusher and the gas lighter, I'm like, "Oh my God, how would you say that about me?"

1577
02:02:33,580 --> 02:02:56,580
- Well, this whole time being like, "Oh, we're just joking, but then you go to another level."

1578
02:02:56,580 --> 02:02:58,580
- No, everything I'm talking about is on the table, right?

1579
02:02:58,580 --> 02:02:59,580
- Okay, mine's on the table too, mine's on.

1580
02:02:59,580 --> 02:03:01,580
- Everything we always talk about, so you're like, "Okay, what can I use to really hit him right now?"

1581
02:03:01,580 --> 02:03:02,580
- No, that's what you do.

1582
02:03:02,580 --> 02:03:07,580
And depending on the circumstances, I don't know why I'm saying this out, because Ethan probably had more experience than I did.

1583
02:03:07,580 --> 02:03:12,580
But like, among men, crazy is just like a mean word or whatever, it doesn't mean anything.

1584
02:03:12,580 --> 02:03:14,580
Like literally crazy means nothing to men.

1585
02:03:14,580 --> 02:03:21,580
But depending on the context of the conversation, calling a girl or calling a woman crazy is almost as bad as calling her like, a bitch or a cunt.

1586
02:03:21,580 --> 02:03:24,580
That could be like a nuclear fucking meltdown word.

1587
02:03:24,580 --> 02:03:31,580
But again, I don't know if these guys' dynamics, I don't know if they care or whatever, you know, but you gotta be real, real, real careful with that one.

1588
02:03:31,580 --> 02:03:33,580
- But then say, "You know what, I don't appreciate you calling me crazy."

1589
02:03:33,580 --> 02:03:35,580
- Oh, crazy, I'll say everything, do I recognize myself?

1590
02:03:35,580 --> 02:03:36,580
- That's why, why should I?

1591
02:03:36,580 --> 02:03:38,580
- Why should I, why should anybody ever confide in you?

1592
02:03:38,580 --> 02:03:39,580
- I don't think you should.

1593
02:03:39,580 --> 02:03:40,580
- I never said you're off your bed.

1594
02:03:40,580 --> 02:03:42,580
- You didn't invite me, you're not like, "Hey, I gotta tell you something real serious," like, "Oh, yeah, those are fun."

1595
02:03:42,580 --> 02:03:44,580
- You can block your bed and whenever it does that.

1596
02:03:44,580 --> 02:03:45,580
- That's so rude, well, you know what?

1597
02:03:45,580 --> 02:03:46,580
- No, it's not.

1598
02:03:46,580 --> 02:03:47,580
- Your life is sad and pathetic and mine is happy, thriving, so good.

1599
02:03:47,580 --> 02:03:48,580
- Mine is sad.

1600
02:03:48,580 --> 02:03:49,580
- Have fun.

1601
02:03:49,580 --> 02:03:52,580
- Your beach, weekend, eating room service, trying to get pregnant, have fun with that.

1602
02:03:52,580 --> 02:04:07,580
- That doesn't sound sad and pathetic.

1603
02:04:07,580 --> 02:04:10,580
- Because you're saying I weaponize and I don't, there's a perfect time to go in there and be like, "Actually, this."

1604
02:04:10,580 --> 02:04:12,580
- Well, because obviously you have, I don't know what you're thinking about, but like...

1605
02:04:12,580 --> 02:04:14,580
- And I don't consider weaponizing, I'm very open about everything.

1606
02:04:14,580 --> 02:04:17,580
It's something I don't want people to bring up with, I'll openly talk about it fine, whatever, that's just fucking me.

1607
02:04:17,580 --> 02:04:19,580
Like, I don't care, I'll talk about it, it's not weaponizing, just 'cause I bring something up.

1608
02:04:19,580 --> 02:04:22,580
- It definitely, I'm just trying to tell you about what you do.

1609
02:04:22,580 --> 02:04:23,580
I'm just trying to be honest, I think you have this issue.

1610
02:04:23,580 --> 02:04:24,580
- Well, you're wrong on this one.

1611
02:04:24,580 --> 02:04:26,580
- But why do you think that like all your friendships, like a lot of your friendships...

1612
02:04:26,580 --> 02:04:27,580
- I have friends for so many years.

1613
02:04:27,580 --> 02:04:28,580
- And all of your boyfriends and relationships.

1614
02:04:28,580 --> 02:04:29,580
That's what I'm worried about.

1615
02:04:29,580 --> 02:04:30,580
- She's just proving she's crazy.

1616
02:04:30,580 --> 02:04:37,580
I mean like, maybe, but the problem is both of them right now are having like, this is a very, very, very, very, very sensitive conversation.

1617
02:04:37,580 --> 02:04:42,580
And we're doing like deep cuts right now between both parties, so like, here is just a matter of...

1618
02:04:42,580 --> 02:04:45,580
I don't know, it's like two people play fighting with nuclear weapons behind them

1619
02:04:45,580 --> 02:04:47,580
and you know it's gonna escalate to that, it's just a matter of time.

1620
02:04:47,580 --> 02:04:50,580
Because the comments that Ethan's making right now are not, these are not playful comments, right?

1621
02:04:50,580 --> 02:04:52,580
I've got a great life, everything is going on fine with me.

1622
02:04:52,580 --> 02:04:55,580
Why do you all your friendships feel like these are like deep cuts?

1623
02:04:55,580 --> 02:04:59,580
And to have this conversation...

1624
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,520
what you're both emotional and what your life seems kind of crazy, but

1625
02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:09,600
That she's got a roll of decks of all this shit on you and then and then when shit goes wrong

1626
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,280
She's gonna try to ruin your fucking life wrong and I don't expose stuff. I know like well. Yes

1627
02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:15,760
He did no I didn't well you did accuse him of fucking kind of flirting with underage girls

1628
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:20,560
No, we you're like, oh, I'm fine. I'm gonna use them being with underage girl

1629
02:05:21,320 --> 02:05:25,120
They were publicly put out there. Yeah, yeah, they were they were posted about your own account. I had like three likes

1630
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:28,880
We know that that was literally a three like okay, but anyway

1631
02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:32,920
Not from from by me. I'm just saying it's not cool to be like. Oh, well, you're addicted to

1632
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:36,380
Very long time friendships. I have lasted a while over 10 years. I'm still friends with and you're

1633
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:40,840
Oh that's kidding see that also be considered. Oh, that's what I was

1634
02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:45,120
Against me, but now it's a joke because what you're the one that pulled me up. Oh, yeah, but anything you say those are jokes

1635
02:05:45,120 --> 02:05:50,600
It's all on the table. Oh my god. Oh my god. I told you wasn't on the table. Okay, but that's not weaponizing you

1636
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:54,200
Yes, it is. Oh, oh really you talk about all the time. That's like what about when you push and push push me to show you

1637
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:56,200
Oh how much I mean on that video you do this you were fucking be an

1638
02:05:56,200 --> 02:06:00,120
All the table you force me you literally get your phone out fucking you do this right now. You put it you never told me

1639
02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:02,640
No, I said, please don't please edit this out. It's on the podcast. I was like banging

1640
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:05,480
There's like tears my eyes like please edit this out because I really didn't know so that's me being an asshole

1641
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:09,000
But it's all on the table. That's not okay. You wasn't nice at whatever. It's not what you are you pushing someone to be something

1642
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:12,840
They're not comfortable with that's what that's worse. That's fucking way worse. I'm not saying I'm a scene at it at all

1643
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:14,840
But you are awful. Yeah, I am awful

1644
02:06:14,840 --> 02:06:18,960
But I'm just right and push people and push people like pushing people to do something don't want to do and you've done it multiple times

1645
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:22,080
I'm most shows and it's not cool. I mean that's why people get so annoyed with you when you interview people

1646
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:25,680
Why we don't have guess on the show because people don't want to guess on this show or your age to show anymore people just don't want to

1647
02:06:25,680 --> 02:06:28,280
I guess all every week. Oh, really? Oh, wow, they're really killing it

1648
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:30,720
Who was like I don't know the doctor with coronavirus like good guys. I was like five months ago

1649
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:31,720
Okay, well, I don't even watch your thing

1650
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:34,440
But I'm just saying like all the guests you get you're not bill birds not coming on bow burn

1651
02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:36,720
I'm not coming on Chris Lee is not coming on. You know what I'm saying? You're getting people at no one knows

1652
02:06:36,720 --> 02:06:39,760
Oh, Jack's film's again. Great. Good job. Good. Yes. Just get all your hi dubs while good job

1653
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:44,440
You know what I mean? I don't need to defend our guest track record, but I feel like we've had some bangers lately. Have you though?

1654
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:51,940
Sure, okay. Well, I'm sure you see Whitney commings, which is posted when you came on. Is she acceptable to you? Okay? Good job. Thank you very much

1655
02:06:51,940 --> 02:06:55,800
I'm just thinking oh, I'm sorry Chris, Chris, you know, I do who they are. How many do you know idea? How many good?

1656
02:06:56,360 --> 02:06:58,360
And you sent you know

1657
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:04,160
Hey, it's comedians. Cool. Don't know you though. Um, Steve Oh, mm-hmm. Awesome. It's not a stick. Okay. Keep going. Bobby. Mm-hmm

1658
02:07:04,160 --> 02:07:08,160
Okay, Colala another female. Mm-hmm. We've got some really good guests coming up to your problem of them right now

1659
02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:12,040
Okay, I hope I get some some more of you stage three podcast. Oh, you know, I

1660
02:07:12,680 --> 02:07:16,560
Hear just for you. I'm gonna premiere. I'm just gonna give this away for you right now Bell Delphine is gonna be on in the 20

1661
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:20,960
Whoa, holy shit. How'd you get her? Exactly? Whoa? I'm not saying her stuff is real great

1662
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:23,840
My asshole doesn't have toilet paper in it. Oh, okay

1663
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:26,440
So you got Bell the fiend when you unbox have no one even care didn't even get a million views a while

1664
02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:29,520
But guess yeah, that's dead and done just like James Charles. You're just trying to be my life is about views

1665
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:32,760
It literally is about views all you care about is like working doing this you're literally projecting on me

1666
02:07:32,760 --> 02:07:35,200
You call me money hungry, and it's like literally all you do is just obsess over money

1667
02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:38,340
I'm not saying I'm not saying that's fucking weaponize when people throw back on me

1668
02:07:38,340 --> 02:07:41,920
I'm not saying I'm perfect person. I call for being racist doesn't mean I have to think in my past. It's also just being like hey, you're also

1669
02:07:41,920 --> 02:07:43,920
I'm holding a fucking mirror up to you

1670
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:47,520
No, that's not true. That is a hundred percent true. Okay, whatever you it's not projecting like I'm not saying

1671
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:48,920
Hey, I love money, too. Fuck. Yeah, I'm gonna be money

1672
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:51,820
But like it's not just because you love money doesn't mean that you have

1673
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:56,020
We were going to be 50/50 on the show originally. Okay, here's weaponizing saying stuff

1674
02:07:56,020 --> 02:07:57,500
That's not good. I give you the most generous fucking

1675
02:07:57,500 --> 02:08:01,440
Later and said actually 45 about it 45. Yeah, I'm like and you said to pay everyone. Okay, cool

1676
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:04,640
I get that cool, but then to be like and I'm just gonna keep all the highlights for cost or whatever. Okay, how about

1677
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:10,400
What like we spent $50,000 on the set we have a full set of guys that are working all around the clock

1678
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:14,160
Of our podcast and I literally and I and you get 45 percent. That seems like a great

1679
02:08:15,120 --> 02:08:20,760
I don't care. It's just really annoying to crunch the number over time. It's gonna get money and it's like hey

1680
02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:23,640
It's fine. I don't care, but don't say I'm money. I'm hungry. I'm gonna care less like I'm like whatever

1681
02:08:23,640 --> 02:08:25,840
I would do this for free. You're not my hungry now. Huh? I like money

1682
02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:27,960
I like my money. Okay, whatever this is super conversation

1683
02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:30,280
I'm just I all I'm trying to do is give you a important insight

1684
02:08:31,320 --> 02:08:32,880
You constantly like move on. We're not talking about that

1685
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:35,640
This is stupid like how come you get to dictate what's stupid? What's not what's worthy of a conversation?

1686
02:08:35,640 --> 02:08:37,040
If you want to talk about something bring a conversation

1687
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:40,000
I'm fine. I'm fine with them. But this is what you do your guess on if you want to do why it's dying

1688
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:42,600
Which is why no one's going back on which is why don't you get repeat guess who's the guy that was so offended?

1689
02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:45,680
We're so uncomfortable. I forgot his name. We watched it. He was so unconscious. Like what are you doing?

1690
02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:49,200
What's happening right now? I forget the guy's name Eric Eric something Aaron or I don't know Eric Eric Eric

1691
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:51,320
You don't even know what Eric Andre is? No, I don't know

1692
02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:54,880
He looked very uncomfortable. I watch it. I was like fuck is happening like why were you being so fucking like you know

1693
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:57,280
I mean like that's why people don't come back because you have this way of just pushing people always come back

1694
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:06,740
Like people always come back literally we regularly have people back Jack's films. Good job

1695
02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:11,680
Jack's films has been on the episode by the way, so why he's really nice. He's not he was an asshole to me on the chain

1696
02:09:11,680 --> 02:09:14,520
No, maybe you should have been before I was huh. Maybe he was right. Maybe he saw something

1697
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:18,640
No, he's he's the most problematic and he what Jack film is not I gotta stop you there

1698
02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:22,200
No, I don't think I thought it was me, but here's a thing just like Mikey. Oh, we're all woken

1699
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:25,080
We're all people. Hmm. I don't think he's well, but he has a lot of skeletons in his closet

1700
02:09:25,080 --> 02:09:28,920
No, he doesn't and that's not me weaponizing that's just me saying I know no, but like you did the pills anecdote

1701
02:09:28,920 --> 02:09:31,600
That was you that was not okay, so what what do you call what you did?

1702
02:09:31,600 --> 02:09:34,200
You mean when you push him push my time not comfortable something I'm not going to be being an asshole

1703
02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:36,840
I'm not being an asshole like pushing someone want to say I'm uncomfortable weaponizing private info

1704
02:09:36,840 --> 02:09:41,720
That is that totally is because you have something obvious. Okay. It was my other question to you is

1705
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:46,360
What who won World War two who won World War two?

1706
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:48,960
Was it the allies

1707
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:50,560
The Allies are the access who won World War two

1708
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:58,280
I'm so over the Danielle. I really am like a hundred percent done with the show. So this is it. Yeah

1709
02:09:59,360 --> 02:10:01,360
So I'm like

1710
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:01,400
- I'm gonna go cheat my terms and maybe I'll come back,

1711
02:10:01,400 --> 02:10:02,240
but that's it. - Be negotiate.

1712
02:10:02,240 --> 02:10:03,080
You already have max terms.

1713
02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:03,920
You're maxed out.

1714
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:04,760
- No, I don't think so.

1715
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:05,960
After this today, I'm gonna go cheat my house.

1716
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:08,200
- You wanna get me $25,000 for the set?

1717
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:09,040
- No.

1718
02:10:09,040 --> 02:10:09,880
- So what do you want?

1719
02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:10,720
- 'Cause I haven't seen the set.

1720
02:10:10,720 --> 02:10:11,800
I don't have to say in how it was like build or anything.

1721
02:10:11,800 --> 02:10:13,240
I had my set designers and I got an available.

1722
02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:14,640
- I gotta try to reach them.

1723
02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:17,320
All right, whatever.

1724
02:10:17,320 --> 02:10:18,440
- Well, good luck with this channel.

1725
02:10:18,440 --> 02:10:19,280
- It's doing great.

1726
02:10:19,280 --> 02:10:20,120
- Is it?

1727
02:10:20,120 --> 02:10:20,960
- Yeah, it's doing fine.

1728
02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:21,800
- Okay, cool.

1729
02:10:21,800 --> 02:10:22,640
I'm the first to admit, when mine's dying,

1730
02:10:22,640 --> 02:10:36,560
what's your views on the first time in my channel dying?

1731
02:10:36,560 --> 02:10:37,400
- My channel is not dying.

1732
02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:38,240
- Okay, cool.

1733
02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:39,080
- Love it.

1734
02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:40,080
Doing better than ever?

1735
02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:40,920
- Yeah, actually.

1736
02:10:40,920 --> 02:10:41,760
Well, we're posting more frequently,

1737
02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:42,600
but the views are up is doing really good.

1738
02:10:42,600 --> 02:10:43,440
- Amazing.

1739
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:44,280
- Happy for you.

1740
02:10:44,280 --> 02:10:45,120
- But what you're trying is to upset me,

1741
02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:45,960
but it's not worth it.

1742
02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:46,800
- I'm not.

1743
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:47,640
I said good for you.

1744
02:10:47,640 --> 02:10:48,480
If you think it's doing better, then I'm lucky.

1745
02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:49,320
I'm not, I think that's amazing.

1746
02:10:49,320 --> 02:10:50,160
If it's doing good for you, then really congrats.

1747
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:51,000
- Congrats.

1748
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:52,000
- Yeah, I can see why your relationships don't work out.

1749
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:54,640
- Anything else we should discuss?

1750
02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:56,520
- Damn, just went off the fucking rails.

1751
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:57,440
- Wow, thank you for that.

1752
02:10:57,440 --> 02:10:59,880
- I'll go faster and whatever this shit you threw to go with.

1753
02:10:59,880 --> 02:11:01,640
- Oh my God, mine's more iconic.

1754
02:11:01,640 --> 02:11:02,800
We'll see you by the TikTok view.

1755
02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:03,800
- Should we make up or are we painting?

1756
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:04,640
- I'm literally over it.

1757
02:11:04,640 --> 02:11:05,480
I'm so over it.

1758
02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:06,400
I don't care if everyone breaks up with me over this.

1759
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:07,240
Bye.

1760
02:11:07,240 --> 02:11:08,240
- Why would me, I was just break up over a podcast.

1761
02:11:08,240 --> 02:11:09,080
- 'Cause I don't like his family.

1762
02:11:09,080 --> 02:11:10,440
And I don't like hanging out with you guys

1763
02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:11,840
and you guys are awful in the bed.

1764
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:12,880
I mean, I said it.

1765
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:13,880
- What do you like to me when we start out?

1766
02:11:13,880 --> 02:11:15,160
- No, I was trying to be nice and fun,

1767
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:22,160
but I actually don't really care that much for you.

1768
02:11:22,160 --> 02:11:23,920
- Really? You never liked me?

1769
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:24,760
- No.

1770
02:11:24,760 --> 02:11:25,760
- I kept it.

1771
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:26,600
- Oh.

1772
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:27,600
- You're the next to me canceled.

1773
02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:28,600
- You're really upset.

1774
02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:29,600
- No, I'm not.

1775
02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:30,600
I'm fine.

1776
02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:31,600
So, have fun.

1777
02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:32,600
Good luck on the baby making.

1778
02:11:32,600 --> 02:11:33,600
- Thank you.

1779
02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:34,800
I feel that you're really upset, huh?

1780
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:35,800
- Good.

1781
02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:36,800
- You're shutting down.

1782
02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:37,800
- No, I'm good.

1783
02:11:37,800 --> 02:11:38,800
We'll see what talk about.

1784
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:39,800
Let's talk.

1785
02:11:39,800 --> 02:11:40,800
- Should we resolve this issue?

1786
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:41,800
- No, I'm over it.

1787
02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:42,800
I'm over it.

1788
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:43,800
I'm over it.

1789
02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:44,800
- You just said let's talk.

1790
02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:45,800
It's too far.

1791
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:47,160
- This episode went 20 minutes too long.

1792
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:48,160
- Oh.

1793
02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:49,720
It's some good content there too.

1794
02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:50,880
- Anything else?

1795
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:51,880
- That's it.

1796
02:11:51,880 --> 02:11:55,160
- Moses, do you want to have anything to say?

1797
02:11:55,160 --> 02:11:56,160
End it.

1798
02:11:56,160 --> 02:11:57,160
Moses is warning me.

1799
02:11:57,160 --> 02:11:58,160
- Well, that's because I'm quitting this show.

1800
02:11:58,160 --> 02:11:59,160
Don't fire Moses because I'm mean.

1801
02:11:59,160 --> 02:12:00,160
- Why would I fire Moses?

1802
02:12:00,160 --> 02:12:01,160
Because of you?

1803
02:12:01,160 --> 02:12:02,160
- I don't know.

1804
02:12:02,160 --> 02:12:03,160
People will be doing that.

1805
02:12:03,160 --> 02:12:04,160
- You overestimate your influence.

1806
02:12:04,160 --> 02:12:05,160
- Oh, I know what you guys are with him.

1807
02:12:05,160 --> 02:12:06,160
Oh my gosh, I should do this.

1808
02:12:06,160 --> 02:12:07,160
Oh my gosh, I should do that.

1809
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:08,160
Are we should be scared to shut?

1810
02:12:08,160 --> 02:12:09,160
It's like...

1811
02:12:09,160 --> 02:12:10,160
- I've never said anything like that.

1812
02:12:10,160 --> 02:12:11,160
- I've seen your group chat.

1813
02:12:11,160 --> 02:12:12,160
I literally see his phone.

1814
02:12:14,800 --> 02:12:15,800
Like, I'm not a perfect person.

1815
02:12:15,800 --> 02:12:16,800
I'm a crazy person sometimes.

1816
02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:17,800
Like, whatever.

1817
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:18,800
I'm open about it.

1818
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:19,800
- I'm sorry for calling you crazy.

1819
02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:20,800
- That's offensive.

1820
02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:21,800
- I apologize.

1821
02:12:21,800 --> 02:12:22,800
- I don't apologize for anything else.

1822
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:23,800
I'm about you.

1823
02:12:23,800 --> 02:12:24,800
- That's okay.

1824
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:25,800
- And I'll say it again.

1825
02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:26,800
- It's fine.

1826
02:12:26,800 --> 02:12:27,800
But I know that this went off the rails.

1827
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:28,800
- I know you got to choose because of your family.

1828
02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:29,800
And I get it and I understand I'm sympathetic to it.

1829
02:12:29,800 --> 02:12:30,800
So my apologies, but that's it.

1830
02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:31,800
- But I can tell that when I said that, it upset you.

1831
02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:33,800
And I was sincerely, I thought we were goofing around because...

1832
02:12:33,800 --> 02:12:35,800
- Well, you look unhappy in life.

1833
02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:36,800
- Oh, shit.

1834
02:12:36,800 --> 02:12:37,800
Okay.

1835
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:43,400
Again, I just don't watch whatever.

1836
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:48,800
I think they were both kind of mad at each other or she's really mad.

1837
02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:54,400
I think Ethan is kind of mad, but I think about 15 seconds ago, I think Ethan realized that

1838
02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:57,800
she's like nuclear meltdown mode mad and now he's trying to...

1839
02:12:57,800 --> 02:13:03,800
And now he realizes like, "Oh shit, wait, she's actually like..."

1840
02:13:03,800 --> 02:13:08,800
- Yeah, I'm not a perfect person.

1841
02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:09,800
I'm a crazy person sometimes, like whatever.

1842
02:13:09,800 --> 02:13:11,800
- But he's way too late though.

1843
02:13:11,800 --> 02:13:13,800
She was like fighting for her...

1844
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:15,800
Egotistically, she was like fighting for her life.

1845
02:13:15,800 --> 02:13:16,800
Not like a egotistical or bad way.

1846
02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:18,800
Like she was fighting for her life.

1847
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:20,800
And I don't think Ethan realized that...

1848
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:22,800
And now he realizes it, but it's way too late.

1849
02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:24,800
- I'm sorry for calling you crazy.

1850
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:25,800
- That's about them.

1851
02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:26,800
- I apologize.

1852
02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:27,800
- I don't apologize for anything.

1853
02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:28,800
I said about you.

1854
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:29,800
- That's okay.

1855
02:13:29,800 --> 02:13:30,800
- And I'll say it again.

1856
02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:31,800
- It's fine, but I know that this went off the rails.

1857
02:13:31,800 --> 02:13:32,800
- I know you got to choose because of your family.

1858
02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:33,800
- I understand that.

1859
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:34,800
I'm sympathetic to it.

1860
02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:35,800
So my apologies, but that's it.

1861
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:37,800
- But I can tell that when I said that, it upset you.

1862
02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:38,800
And I was sincerely...

1863
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:39,800
I thought we were goofing around because...

1864
02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:40,800
- Well, you look unhappy in life.

1865
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:41,800
So I really hope you feel better.

1866
02:13:41,800 --> 02:13:42,800
I know it came from a place that you're vulnerable.

1867
02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:43,800
- But I want to...

1868
02:13:43,800 --> 02:13:44,800
- Yeah.

1869
02:13:44,800 --> 02:13:45,800
- I know you are.

1870
02:13:45,800 --> 02:13:47,800
- Because I thought we were goofing on each other kind of thing.

1871
02:13:47,800 --> 02:13:48,800
But I genuinely...

1872
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:49,800
I'm sorry for saying that.

1873
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:52,800
- How do you interact with her style of combative communication?

1874
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:53,800
I don't know.

1875
02:13:53,800 --> 02:13:54,800
Like I said, I don't know these people.

1876
02:13:54,800 --> 02:13:55,800
I might be there.

1877
02:13:55,800 --> 02:13:56,800
There was no saving this and she is a horrible person.

1878
02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:57,800
I really don't know.

1879
02:13:57,800 --> 02:13:58,800
I really don't.

1880
02:14:03,800 --> 02:14:08,800
One issue you have to be really careful about here though, for what Ethan is trying to do,

1881
02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:11,800
is that it sounds like Ethan is trying to apologize.

1882
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:13,800
I think he's trying to be sincere.

1883
02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:15,800
But once the other person is in combat mode,

1884
02:14:15,800 --> 02:14:16,800
it really doesn't matter what your intention is.

1885
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:18,800
What's going to matter is how you come off.

1886
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:21,800
And I think him saying, "Oh, I thought we were joking around."

1887
02:14:21,800 --> 02:14:24,800
Is probably triggering her even harder.

1888
02:14:24,800 --> 02:14:28,800
Because now he sincerely got her super Omega pissed off and upset

1889
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:29,800
and he wasn't even being serious.

1890
02:14:29,800 --> 02:14:31,800
He was just joking and he got to that man.

1891
02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:33,800
So technically, I think every time he says this,

1892
02:14:33,800 --> 02:14:34,800
they were just rushing.

1893
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:35,800
They were messing around or whatever.

1894
02:14:35,800 --> 02:14:39,800
He's probably making her even more upset.

1895
02:14:39,800 --> 02:14:40,800
I'm genuine.

1896
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:43,800
- I'm literally going to leave that once it's over.

1897
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:44,800
- No, I know.

1898
02:14:44,800 --> 02:14:45,800
I'm trying to resolve this.

1899
02:14:45,800 --> 02:14:47,800
- The more we talk about it, the worse it's going to be.

1900
02:14:47,800 --> 02:14:48,800
Good luck.

1901
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:49,800
Honestly, good luck.

1902
02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:50,800
Thanks for having me on five episodes.

1903
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:51,800
Love it.

1904
02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:52,800
It was so much fun.

1905
02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:53,800
Good luck.

1906
02:14:53,800 --> 02:14:54,800
I'm sorry about your conversation.

1907
02:14:54,800 --> 02:14:55,800
I'm sorry about your situation.

1908
02:14:55,800 --> 02:14:56,800
I'm sorry about your situation.

1909
02:14:56,800 --> 02:14:57,800
- Destiny, no.

1910
02:14:57,800 --> 02:14:58,800
She also began apologizing at least slightly in response.

1911
02:14:58,800 --> 02:14:59,800
I'm just giving my text.

1912
02:14:59,800 --> 02:15:00,800
I'm here to argue with you.

1913
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,720
But if you ever had a point in an argument with a girl

1914
02:15:05,720 --> 02:15:08,280
and she's saying like, no, it's OK.

1915
02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:09,320
Yeah, I'm sorry.

1916
02:15:09,320 --> 02:15:10,120
No, it's fine.

1917
02:15:10,120 --> 02:15:11,040
No, it's all good.

1918
02:15:11,040 --> 02:15:12,000
Yeah, I'm sorry too.

1919
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:13,320
Yeah.

1920
02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:16,920
It's-- if you walk away from that thing,

1921
02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:17,880
you're like, oh, well, she apologized.

1922
02:15:17,880 --> 02:15:18,600
So we're good.

1923
02:15:18,600 --> 02:15:20,360
Good luck.

1924
02:15:20,360 --> 02:15:21,800
I know you're in five episodes.

1925
02:15:21,800 --> 02:15:22,060
Love it.

1926
02:15:22,060 --> 02:15:22,720
It was so much fun.

1927
02:15:22,720 --> 02:15:23,800
I know about that.

1928
02:15:23,800 --> 02:15:24,320
Good luck.

1929
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:25,360
And I'm sorry about your camera situation.

1930
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:26,500
I'm sorry about your situation.

1931
02:15:26,500 --> 02:15:27,200
I know you're in the room as well.

1932
02:15:27,200 --> 02:15:27,700
You are.

1933
02:15:27,700 --> 02:15:27,700
I can tell.

1934
02:15:27,700 --> 02:15:28,200
I can tell.

1935
02:15:28,200 --> 02:15:28,700
And it's sadness.

1936
02:15:28,700 --> 02:15:29,680
And I see you when I was around your family

1937
02:15:29,680 --> 02:15:30,680
and you, and it's sad.

1938
02:15:30,680 --> 02:15:32,060
And that's why you're so mean to people, and I get it.

1939
02:15:32,060 --> 02:15:33,560
But also, don't take it out on people and call them crazy

1940
02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:34,060
and shit.

1941
02:15:34,060 --> 02:15:34,560
No, I apologize.

1942
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:35,060
OK, great.

1943
02:15:35,060 --> 02:15:36,000
That's a wrap.

1944
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:37,640
I think-- I do think you're a good person.

1945
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:38,520
And also bullshit.

1946
02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:39,200
He wasn't joking.

1947
02:15:39,200 --> 02:15:41,040
He was mad, and she knows he's lying.

1948
02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:42,320
I think I said that, right?

1949
02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:43,960
I think that they were both mad earlier.

1950
02:15:43,960 --> 02:15:45,240
I think he was sincerely mad.

1951
02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:46,440
And he was saying things out of anger.

1952
02:15:46,440 --> 02:15:49,840
But I don't think he realized that this was nuclear mode

1953
02:15:49,840 --> 02:15:53,000
for her, that he was upset in saying things.

1954
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:54,480
And she was upset in saying things.

1955
02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:56,080
But I don't think he even thought

1956
02:15:56,080 --> 02:15:58,440
that their whole friendship was on the table.

1957
02:15:58,440 --> 02:15:59,400
It doesn't seem like it.

1958
02:15:59,400 --> 02:16:01,400
Because it feels like when I was before,

1959
02:16:01,400 --> 02:16:04,440
there was a switch that flipped 20 seconds earlier or whatever.

1960
02:16:04,440 --> 02:16:05,520
He was like, oh shit.

1961
02:16:05,520 --> 02:16:08,960
She's actually for real, for real over this completely.

1962
02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:11,880
I don't know if you had that awareness earlier.

1963
02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:13,640
And I am sorry if you call me crazy.

1964
02:16:13,640 --> 02:16:15,880
Well, I'll weaponize you later then on my channel.

1965
02:16:15,880 --> 02:16:16,840
I'm sorry for the weaponizing.

1966
02:16:16,840 --> 02:16:17,800
Everyone comes to me because I'm crazy.

1967
02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:18,800
And I weaponize against people.

1968
02:16:18,800 --> 02:16:19,320
Like, it's all me.

1969
02:16:19,320 --> 02:16:20,800
I never get provoked.

1970
02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:21,400
Yeah, no.

1971
02:16:21,400 --> 02:16:24,720
I can see why I provoked you because I can be like asshole-ish.

1972
02:16:24,720 --> 02:16:25,280
Oh, man.

1973
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:27,600
He's in full-- oh, man, it might be too late.

1974
02:16:27,600 --> 02:16:30,000
I don't know if you could do this live.

1975
02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:30,560
It's not asshole.

1976
02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:31,320
It's literally like pushing someone

1977
02:16:31,320 --> 02:16:32,800
to be something when they're uncomfortable.

1978
02:16:32,800 --> 02:16:34,160
That's literally like-- it's an attack.

1979
02:16:34,160 --> 02:16:36,400
I mean, that's literally like awful.

1980
02:16:36,400 --> 02:16:38,200
But anyways.

1981
02:16:38,200 --> 02:16:38,700
Right.

1982
02:16:38,700 --> 02:16:39,200
OK.

1983
02:16:39,200 --> 02:16:39,700
OK.

1984
02:16:39,700 --> 02:16:40,200
Well--

1985
02:16:40,200 --> 02:16:40,700
Yo.

1986
02:16:40,700 --> 02:16:42,200
Hey, Alfredo.

1987
02:16:42,200 --> 02:16:42,700
Cool.

1988
02:16:42,700 --> 02:16:44,760
Well, we're going out on a high note here, folks.

1989
02:16:44,760 --> 02:16:46,280
All for your viewing pleasure.

1990
02:16:46,280 --> 02:16:49,200
Just wire me for this later, and we'll talk in that room.

1991
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:51,080
I will wire you the money that I owe you.

1992
02:16:51,080 --> 02:16:51,600
Mm-hm.

1993
02:16:51,600 --> 02:16:53,240
And I will wish you well, because I've always wished you well.

1994
02:16:53,240 --> 02:16:54,640
And I can tell you hate me so much right now,

1995
02:16:54,640 --> 02:16:55,400
but I don't hate you.

1996
02:16:55,400 --> 02:16:55,400
I know.

1997
02:16:55,400 --> 02:16:56,400
I like you still.

1998
02:16:56,400 --> 02:16:57,080
My feelings didn't change.

1999
02:16:57,080 --> 02:16:59,480
I think his attempt at a recovery is genuine or out of fear

2000
02:16:59,480 --> 02:17:00,800
that she might say some stuff at the moment.

2001
02:17:00,800 --> 02:17:01,440
I mean, I don't know.

2002
02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:05,920
I can't like divine like crazy, manipulative error

2003
02:17:05,920 --> 02:17:07,480
intent, where he's like worried if she'll leak stuff.

2004
02:17:07,480 --> 02:17:09,120
I think he's trying to be genuine.

2005
02:17:09,120 --> 02:17:10,880
That's-- I wouldn't have any reason to think otherwise.

2006
02:17:10,880 --> 02:17:12,320
But I mean, maybe he's being manipulative here.

2007
02:17:12,320 --> 02:17:12,880
I just don't know.

2008
02:17:12,880 --> 02:17:14,280
But it seems like he's trying to be genuine.

2009
02:17:14,280 --> 02:17:17,320
But it's-- I think it's too little, too late at this point.

2010
02:17:17,320 --> 02:17:18,480
Well, I love it.

2011
02:17:18,480 --> 02:17:20,120
There's no way to calm you down, I feel like.

2012
02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:20,840
No, I'm fine.

2013
02:17:20,840 --> 02:17:21,320
I'm going to lose my mind.

2014
02:17:21,320 --> 02:17:22,320
No, but like, there's no way--

2015
02:17:22,320 --> 02:17:22,320
Go over it.

2016
02:17:22,320 --> 02:17:23,160
You just hate me so much.

2017
02:17:23,160 --> 02:17:27,480
I do, I don't know, I'm like, yeah, whatever, because I hate people.

2018
02:17:27,480 --> 02:17:29,040
You're the person I hate in this world.

2019
02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:30,960
That's so just offensive, but they do nothing wrong.

2020
02:17:30,960 --> 02:17:32,320
And when people are provoked, oh, they're crazy.

2021
02:17:32,320 --> 02:17:34,080
Calling girls crazy and stuff like that.

2022
02:17:34,080 --> 02:17:35,480
But taking no accountability, no responsibility,

2023
02:17:35,480 --> 02:17:36,680
you think everything's just an attack against you.

2024
02:17:36,680 --> 02:17:37,480
Everyone's against Ethan.

2025
02:17:37,480 --> 02:17:38,480
Oh my gosh, I'm always right.

2026
02:17:38,480 --> 02:17:40,040
It's like, oh, you and Jack's mom serve each other, so.

2027
02:17:40,040 --> 02:17:41,760
Jack's, well, I can't believe you're going after Jack's.

2028
02:17:41,760 --> 02:17:42,920
He's such a sweet guy.

2029
02:17:42,920 --> 02:17:43,480
I love you.

2030
02:17:43,480 --> 02:17:44,240
All right, Tricia.

2031
02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:45,720
I think it's great that was out.

2032
02:17:45,720 --> 02:17:48,880
You don't have to choose between me and Moses.

2033
02:17:48,880 --> 02:17:50,480
He can do both, even if we hate each other.

2034
02:17:50,480 --> 02:17:54,080
He'll go with you.

2035
02:17:54,080 --> 02:17:55,520
No, he drove here.

2036
02:17:55,520 --> 02:17:56,000
Bye, Tricia.

2037
02:17:56,000 --> 02:17:57,560
Are we going to make TikToks?

2038
02:17:57,560 --> 02:17:59,000
Are we going to make TikToks?

2039
02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:00,600
We're supposed to make TikToks.

2040
02:18:00,600 --> 02:18:02,400
She's leaving.

2041
02:18:02,400 --> 02:18:03,640
Yeah, I'll get you.

2042
02:18:03,640 --> 02:18:05,800
Well, Tricia left.

2043
02:18:05,800 --> 02:18:08,440
So this is our first fight, our big real fight.

2044
02:18:08,440 --> 02:18:10,960
She snapped on me and she left.

2045
02:18:10,960 --> 02:18:14,440
I'm going to try to do a post-mortem on this.

2046
02:18:14,440 --> 02:18:16,080
I don't know, maybe she's having a bad day.

2047
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:17,680
But I do-- you want to call my Moses?

2048
02:18:17,680 --> 02:18:18,320
Moses came back.

2049
02:18:18,320 --> 02:18:19,320
You want to sit down?

2050
02:18:19,320 --> 02:18:21,240
Go ahead, get her phone.

2051
02:18:21,240 --> 02:18:22,800
She's like, Moses, you speak.

2052
02:18:22,800 --> 02:18:23,960
Pick who you're staying with.

2053
02:18:23,960 --> 02:18:24,560
I was like, go ahead.

2054
02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:25,560
Moses is here.

2055
02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:26,680
Does he give a time?

2056
02:18:26,680 --> 02:18:28,040
OK, yeah, no, I'll fit here.

2057
02:18:28,040 --> 02:18:29,240
All right, bye, Moses.

2058
02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:29,760
Love you.

2059
02:18:29,760 --> 02:18:31,600
Love you too, buddy.

2060
02:18:31,600 --> 02:18:33,540
I was genuinely feeling bad, because I don't know,

2061
02:18:33,540 --> 02:18:35,560
because I feel like I always goofed with her like that,

2062
02:18:35,560 --> 02:18:35,920
right, Dan?

2063
02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:36,720
Yeah.

2064
02:18:36,720 --> 02:18:37,280
Yeah.

2065
02:18:37,280 --> 02:18:39,280
Am I wrong to think that she was kind of like-- well,

2066
02:18:39,280 --> 02:18:40,920
maybe I shouldn't contain this conversation without her.

2067
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:41,920
It's not fair.

2068
02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:43,440
What are you supposed to do in Ethan's situation

2069
02:18:43,440 --> 02:18:45,360
after she's already pissed?

2070
02:18:45,360 --> 02:18:47,680
I mean, once you realize it, I mean, I don't know.

2071
02:18:47,680 --> 02:18:51,880
You have to end the conversation, I think.

2072
02:18:51,880 --> 02:18:54,040
I don't think that people who are in super emotionally

2073
02:18:54,040 --> 02:18:57,840
compromised states are fit to have a conversation

2074
02:18:57,840 --> 02:18:59,520
when you try to do serious problem resolution.

2075
02:18:59,520 --> 02:19:02,360
And if one or both parties are in a really bad place

2076
02:19:02,360 --> 02:19:03,880
emotionally, it's just usually it's never

2077
02:19:03,880 --> 02:19:04,760
going to be productive.

2078
02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:06,440
So you have to find a way to exit the conversation

2079
02:19:06,440 --> 02:19:08,960
respectfully and then tell them that they can re-engage

2080
02:19:08,960 --> 02:19:10,880
at another point in time without sounding dismissive

2081
02:19:10,880 --> 02:19:12,920
and without calling the other person crazy or accusing

2082
02:19:12,920 --> 02:19:14,480
the other person from not being capable of having

2083
02:19:14,480 --> 02:19:16,280
the conversation.

2084
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:17,820
Good luck.

2085
02:19:17,820 --> 02:19:18,320
Probably not.

2086
02:19:18,320 --> 02:19:19,000
I think I said my piece.

2087
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:20,320
Yep.

2088
02:19:20,320 --> 02:19:21,640
But we hope to see Trisha soon.

2089
02:19:21,640 --> 02:19:22,600
We miss her.

2090
02:19:22,600 --> 02:19:24,320
And I really genuinely am sorry.

2091
02:19:24,320 --> 02:19:26,040
I'm laughing because Dan's laughing.

2092
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:26,540
Mm.

2093
02:19:29,320 --> 02:19:30,400
I don't know what I could have done.

2094
02:19:30,400 --> 02:19:31,720
I was really trying to resolve the issue.

2095
02:19:31,720 --> 02:19:33,400
And I do interest if you're watching this.

2096
02:19:33,400 --> 02:19:35,440
Please come back.

2097
02:19:35,440 --> 02:19:37,160
We miss you already.

2098
02:19:37,160 --> 02:19:39,400
So that concludes this episode of "Friendies."

2099
02:19:39,400 --> 02:19:42,840
More enemies today than friends.

2100
02:19:42,840 --> 02:19:43,800
That really went off the rails.

2101
02:19:43,800 --> 02:19:44,680
Oh, this is peak.

2102
02:19:44,680 --> 02:19:45,040
Fuck.

2103
02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:46,920
But I guess that's part of the whole era.

2104
02:19:46,920 --> 02:19:47,640
Thrill?

2105
02:19:47,640 --> 02:19:49,040
Well, we said this was going to happen.

2106
02:19:49,040 --> 02:19:50,560
I'm actually surprised it didn't happen sooner.

2107
02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:50,960
I don't know.

2108
02:19:50,960 --> 02:19:52,520
I was trying to feel like maybe this--

2109
02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:53,600
well, I hope she'll be back.

2110
02:19:53,600 --> 02:19:54,080
I hope she'll be back.

2111
02:19:54,080 --> 02:19:54,920
That's what I can say.

2112
02:19:54,920 --> 02:19:55,760
All right, guys.

2113
02:19:55,760 --> 02:19:57,200
We'll see you in-- I don't know what's in the next episode.

2114
02:19:57,200 --> 02:19:58,800
But hopefully next week, it might be a little longer than that.

2115
02:19:58,800 --> 02:19:59,360
It might be the last.

2116
02:19:59,360 --> 02:20:00,040
I hope not because--

2117
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,700
I said, was this the last one I invested?

2118
02:20:02,700 --> 02:20:04,120
So I'm trying to reco clear at least.

2119
02:20:04,120 --> 02:20:06,060
But all right guys, I'll see you, I'll see you later.

2120
02:20:06,060 --> 02:20:08,640
(upbeat music)

2121
02:20:15,480 --> 02:20:16,800
Okay, sorry, finishing this now.

2122
02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:18,440
Jesus.

2123
02:20:18,440 --> 02:20:21,600
- Because this was the five number episode

2124
02:20:21,600 --> 02:20:24,140
they went on for 39 episodes, bro.

2125
02:20:25,160 --> 02:20:27,320
Oh, damn, okay, well.

2126
02:20:27,320 --> 02:20:28,760
- So for that, 'cause I was like, okay, I'm,

2127
02:20:28,760 --> 02:20:29,880
I know what I'm not going to do,

2128
02:20:29,880 --> 02:20:31,400
but I can't control what they're doing.

2129
02:20:31,400 --> 02:20:32,400
- Oh, wait, well, why were people saying

2130
02:20:32,400 --> 02:20:34,000
this was the argument that ended the whole show then?

2131
02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:35,320
The fuck?

2132
02:20:35,320 --> 02:20:38,920
- And it's hurting my wife, it's hurting my children.

2133
02:20:38,920 --> 02:20:41,120
Stuff that's being said are like blatant lies

2134
02:20:41,120 --> 02:20:45,160
that people just believe and run with, even now, you know?

2135
02:20:45,160 --> 02:20:46,860
- Wait, she never came back.

2136
02:20:46,860 --> 02:20:48,680
That was one out of three big fights.

2137
02:20:51,920 --> 02:20:53,200
Do you really, when emotions are up,

2138
02:20:53,200 --> 02:20:54,960
like to wait to resolve stuff?

2139
02:20:54,960 --> 02:20:56,680
Or is that something you said to Mel

2140
02:20:56,680 --> 02:20:58,120
when her emotions were too high?

2141
02:20:58,120 --> 02:20:59,640
I just think it's good for everybody to chill.

2142
02:20:59,640 --> 02:21:02,000
When you're in a, you're not like in a good problem

2143
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:04,920
solving state of mind when you're upset.

2144
02:21:04,920 --> 02:21:06,560
Generally, you're in like protection mode

2145
02:21:06,560 --> 02:21:09,160
and it's just not a good way to make progress.

2146
02:21:12,120 --> 02:21:13,520
- You know, with all of this,

2147
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:15,960
people are still like in the comments,

2148
02:21:15,960 --> 02:21:17,720
repeating lies that were said.

2149
02:21:18,800 --> 02:21:20,680
So yeah, I've been no contact.

2150
02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:24,440
- Here you go, super cut of all fights, 47 minutes.

2151
02:21:24,440 --> 02:21:25,760
Did you react to a Trix response?

2152
02:21:25,760 --> 02:21:27,360
No, not yet, I'll watch that after.

2153
02:21:27,360 --> 02:21:29,160
I've got a whole thing on that, hold on.

2154
02:21:29,160 --> 02:21:30,040
Like, who's gonna leave?

2155
02:21:30,040 --> 02:21:31,560
Like, who's gonna be kicked out?

2156
02:21:31,560 --> 02:21:33,160
I guess the man usually--

2157
02:21:33,160 --> 02:21:34,000
- This show?

2158
02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:35,120
- Or your H3 show anymore.

2159
02:21:35,120 --> 02:21:35,960
People just don't want to eat again.

2160
02:21:35,960 --> 02:21:37,200
- I have guests all every week.

2161
02:21:37,200 --> 02:21:38,520
- Oh, really?

2162
02:21:38,520 --> 02:21:39,520
- Oh, Moses?

2163
02:21:39,520 --> 02:21:40,360
- People don't want to care

2164
02:21:40,360 --> 02:21:41,200
because you guys are not.

2165
02:21:41,200 --> 02:21:42,040
- Whoa.

2166
02:21:42,040 --> 02:21:42,880
- That's--

2167
02:21:47,680 --> 02:21:50,080
- Okay, that's when we just watched.

2168
02:21:50,080 --> 02:21:51,000
- Just give it time.

2169
02:21:51,000 --> 02:21:53,600
- Okay, yeah, now I figure.

2170
02:21:53,600 --> 02:21:54,920
All right, bye, Moses.

2171
02:21:54,920 --> 02:21:55,760
- Love you.

2172
02:21:55,760 --> 02:21:57,360
- Love you too, buddy.

2173
02:21:57,360 --> 02:21:58,200
- Love you too.

2174
02:21:58,200 --> 02:21:59,280
Yeah, Eli was watching, she said,

2175
02:21:59,280 --> 02:22:01,320
why didn't you tell her that she had powder on her lips?

2176
02:22:01,320 --> 02:22:04,440
I was like, I mean, I was staring at it the whole time.

2177
02:22:04,440 --> 02:22:05,280
- So mean.

2178
02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:07,280
- On my screen, it just looked like a glint on your lip gloss.

2179
02:22:07,280 --> 02:22:08,880
- In the beginning, I said you had powder on your lips,

2180
02:22:08,880 --> 02:22:09,720
but then you didn't get it all off.

2181
02:22:09,720 --> 02:22:10,800
And the whole episode was just staring at her.

2182
02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:11,880
- Can we have Eli's guest on our podcast?

2183
02:22:11,880 --> 02:22:12,720
- No.

2184
02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:13,560
- Why, 'cause people think I hate her

2185
02:22:13,560 --> 02:22:14,400
or she doesn't like me or something.

2186
02:22:14,400 --> 02:22:15,240
I feel like we need to have like,

2187
02:22:15,240 --> 02:22:16,560
because you don't even mean like, I like Eli's, don't mind.

2188
02:22:16,560 --> 02:22:17,800
- She said, yeah, she could probably say that.

2189
02:22:17,800 --> 02:22:18,640
- You just said no, not really.

2190
02:22:18,640 --> 02:22:20,240
- Just a snap judgment.

2191
02:22:20,240 --> 02:22:21,240
She's busy.

2192
02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:30,760
- Because she doesn't like that you're always bringing her up

2193
02:22:30,760 --> 02:22:32,120
and saying how she doesn't like you and all this shit,

2194
02:22:32,120 --> 02:22:33,440
because it's not true when she finds it annoying,

2195
02:22:33,440 --> 02:22:35,080
because she doesn't want people to start thinking that like,

2196
02:22:35,080 --> 02:22:36,000
she doesn't actually like you.

2197
02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:36,840
- Well, she doesn't.

2198
02:22:36,840 --> 02:22:38,440
- Well, whatever, just cut it up then.

2199
02:22:38,440 --> 02:22:39,280
I'm serious.

2200
02:22:39,280 --> 02:22:40,120
- I'll talk about it, I don't care,

2201
02:22:40,120 --> 02:22:40,960
because that's so bullshit.

2202
02:22:40,960 --> 02:22:41,880
I'm not talking about my personal life all together then, too.

2203
02:22:41,880 --> 02:22:42,720
- Okay, whatever.

2204
02:22:42,720 --> 02:22:43,560
- And then turn the H.E.P. guys and boring

2205
02:22:43,560 --> 02:22:44,400
and just go down the tube to normal care,

2206
02:22:44,400 --> 02:22:45,400
because you guys are not honest and open about shit.

2207
02:22:45,400 --> 02:22:47,120
So you cut everything out of the personal.

2208
02:22:47,120 --> 02:22:47,960
- Oh my God.

2209
02:22:47,960 --> 02:22:48,800
- You're saying whatever.

2210
02:22:48,800 --> 02:22:50,200
Why, you can't even like mention her.

2211
02:22:50,200 --> 02:22:59,280
You mentioned her last episode, because you every, okay,

2212
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:01,840
you know what, leave it, every time you go, why does Eli hate me?

2213
02:23:01,840 --> 02:23:03,240
And she's like, I don't hate her, it's super annoying.

2214
02:23:03,240 --> 02:23:04,080
Why did she keep saying that?

2215
02:23:04,080 --> 02:23:04,920
And it's causing.

2216
02:23:04,920 --> 02:23:05,760
- Text you.

2217
02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:06,760
- Be like, hey, I don't hate you.

2218
02:23:06,760 --> 02:23:07,600
You know what I mean?

2219
02:23:07,600 --> 02:23:08,600
Like when she's telling me something about Moses.

2220
02:23:08,600 --> 02:23:09,440
- 'Cause I always say.

2221
02:23:09,440 --> 02:23:10,280
- Yeah, we should cut this.

2222
02:23:10,280 --> 02:23:11,120
Let's just move up.

2223
02:23:11,120 --> 02:23:12,120
- No, but like in general, like I'm telling you now,

2224
02:23:12,120 --> 02:23:13,760
like she needs to text me and just be like, hey, I don't hate you.

2225
02:23:13,760 --> 02:23:15,240
You know, but it's like, she's telling Moses, like, oh, she says this.

2226
02:23:15,240 --> 02:23:16,080
- I think, okay, this is all off the regular.

2227
02:23:16,080 --> 02:23:22,000
- He like is always, honestly, it has nothing to do with you.

2228
02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:23,000
- Okay, so.

2229
02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:24,000
- And I don't want to get in the middle of it.

2230
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:25,000
- But between him and her.

2231
02:23:25,000 --> 02:23:26,000
- But she literally brought me up.

2232
02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:27,000
'Cause I was like, we were watching TikTok

2233
02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:28,000
and I saw the thing being like at one a.m. in the morning.

2234
02:23:28,000 --> 02:23:29,160
She was like, what are you telling Tricia?

2235
02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:30,360
Like why is she saying this up on the podcast?

2236
02:23:30,360 --> 02:23:31,360
Like all this stuff.

2237
02:23:31,360 --> 02:23:32,760
- Oh, yeah, because you, okay, she was irritated.

2238
02:23:32,760 --> 02:23:33,960
'Cause you're like, I'm not inviting mom.

2239
02:23:33,960 --> 02:23:35,920
And she was like, dude, like my mom doesn't need to see that.

2240
02:23:35,920 --> 02:23:37,480
And I know, but then she's, but it's like Moses,

2241
02:23:37,480 --> 02:23:39,640
why are you telling her that you're not close to us

2242
02:23:39,640 --> 02:23:40,400
and that you're not close to your mom

2243
02:23:40,400 --> 02:23:52,600
and you're not inviting your mom to us.

2244
02:23:52,600 --> 02:24:00,600
- But you guys talked about Moses on the podcast, well, before we started this one.

2245
02:24:00,600 --> 02:24:01,600
- But it's not true.

2246
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:02,600
- And he's not public.

2247
02:24:02,600 --> 02:24:03,600
He's, you guys are talking about him and shit.

2248
02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:04,600
So whatever, it's so fake.

2249
02:24:04,600 --> 02:24:05,600
And that's why H3 is not what it was

2250
02:24:05,600 --> 02:24:06,600
because you guys are fake as fuck and cut things out.

2251
02:24:06,600 --> 02:24:07,600
- Okay, you're like on a thing.

2252
02:24:07,600 --> 02:24:08,600
- I'm not.

2253
02:24:08,600 --> 02:24:09,600
- Wait a second, hold on.

2254
02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:10,600
He had it.

2255
02:24:10,600 --> 02:24:11,600
What?

2256
02:24:11,600 --> 02:24:13,600
I feel like it's like barely noticeable in these videos.

2257
02:24:13,600 --> 02:24:14,600
Are my crazy?

2258
02:24:14,600 --> 02:24:15,600
- I just think it's so fake.

2259
02:24:15,600 --> 02:24:16,600
It's so bullshit.

2260
02:24:16,600 --> 02:24:17,600
It's like, oh, let's talk about everyone.

2261
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:18,600
- You asked not to be included.

2262
02:24:18,600 --> 02:24:19,600
And I'm respecting your request.

2263
02:24:19,600 --> 02:24:21,600
- I'm not talking about anything personally more.

2264
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:22,600
- Okay.

2265
02:24:22,600 --> 02:24:23,600
- Don't talk about Moses.

2266
02:24:23,600 --> 02:24:24,600
I want to talk about me.

2267
02:24:24,600 --> 02:24:25,600
Like it's just, whatever.

2268
02:24:25,600 --> 02:24:26,600
Who cares?

2269
02:24:26,600 --> 02:24:27,600
- I haven't cut all of it.

2270
02:24:27,600 --> 02:24:28,600
I literally can tell us.

2271
02:24:28,600 --> 02:24:29,600
I'll just keep on.

2272
02:24:29,600 --> 02:24:30,600
- Why are you so upset?

2273
02:24:30,600 --> 02:24:31,600
- It's just so bullshit.

2274
02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:32,600
You guys are such bullshit.

2275
02:24:32,600 --> 02:24:33,600
You guys are so fake.

2276
02:24:33,600 --> 02:24:34,600
And it's like, like actually annoying.

2277
02:24:34,600 --> 02:24:35,600
- Why is it fake that you like doesn't want-

2278
02:24:35,600 --> 02:24:42,600
Okay, if my name is-

2279
02:24:42,600 --> 02:24:43,600
- It's not about you.

2280
02:24:43,600 --> 02:24:44,600
It's about between-

2281
02:24:44,600 --> 02:24:45,600
- Oh, maybe I'm just associating it more with

2282
02:24:45,600 --> 02:24:46,600
the cough thing.

2283
02:24:46,600 --> 02:24:47,600
And he doesn't do the cough thing as much.

2284
02:24:47,600 --> 02:24:48,600
But his eyebrows and stuff, maybe.

2285
02:24:48,600 --> 02:24:49,600
Okay, maybe, maybe.

2286
02:24:49,600 --> 02:24:50,600
- And her brother.

2287
02:24:50,600 --> 02:24:51,600
Why do you need to get involved in that dynamic?

2288
02:24:51,600 --> 02:24:52,600
Just let them sort it out.

2289
02:24:52,600 --> 02:24:53,600
How's that fake?

2290
02:24:53,600 --> 02:24:54,600
- But now you're like, don't talk about you.

2291
02:24:54,600 --> 02:24:55,600
Even though we can talk about-

2292
02:24:55,600 --> 02:24:56,600
- She needs-

2293
02:24:56,600 --> 02:24:57,600
- Everybody, we talk about-

2294
02:24:57,600 --> 02:24:58,600
- No, she doesn't like that.

2295
02:24:58,600 --> 02:24:59,600
You every episode, we have the same conversation

2296
02:24:59,600 --> 02:25:00,600
every episode.

2297
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:04,460
I know because I know she does she needs some time and away from all this great and you go

2298
02:25:04,460 --> 02:25:07,320
I I came in you start off always I say I came in and you didn't greet me

2299
02:25:07,320 --> 02:25:10,060
She was super rude and he was like that's bullshit. Oh, you say that about me, too

2300
02:25:10,060 --> 02:25:13,440
And you go she goes that's bullshit. I'm always nice to her. I like her the whole thing is stupid

2301
02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:16,800
And people are gonna start and she said she was rude to me ever you say she doesn't greet you nicely

2302
02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:19,080
I never said that about you ever. I said that about you. I've never said about you la

2303
02:25:20,320 --> 02:25:24,160
Find that fine on the table. Hey when you say that's like last episode you always say and it's not real

2304
02:25:24,160 --> 02:25:27,120
You never find it and then you just wait over it. You'll you just say that show me where I said that in a video anything

2305
02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:28,640
I never said that one's about you la

2306
02:25:28,640 --> 02:25:31,320
Like that's bullshit. I hate when you put that shit in my mouth like that's so stupid

2307
02:25:31,320 --> 02:25:34,760
I feel like you always you just didn't know you talk about how she doesn't like you and it was like I like her

2308
02:25:34,760 --> 02:25:37,760
I don't want her to keep saying that I have her as a guest on because people think she doesn't like me

2309
02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:40,520
And I don't like her and that's not true. I think she'd be on and then you're like cut that we can't talk about her

2310
02:25:40,520 --> 02:25:42,520
Oh, okay, she's fucking good for this podcast cool. Love that

2311
02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:53,240
I don't care like I don't care and that's why don't like I'm not coming in this house because like I'm not sure how to respond

2312
02:25:53,240 --> 02:25:56,200
Because I feel like you're having a you're having like a you're having like a

2313
02:25:58,640 --> 02:26:02,080
Let's move on. You want to move on. It's not like that. You guys can chat off the show

2314
02:26:02,080 --> 02:26:06,320
Even though I'm on the fucking history podcast channel for you guys getting you as more views overall more subscribers overall

2315
02:26:06,320 --> 02:26:07,920
You guys bring 300,000 views this summer so fuck off

2316
02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:09,880
Oh, but I'm too good to talk about me though. You're on a fucking channel

2317
02:26:09,880 --> 02:26:13,200
So you are taking credit for the renaissance of the history podcast for sure you

2318
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:17,120
It was fucking taking but oh and I'm on this and people were describing people say I see it all the time

2319
02:26:17,120 --> 02:26:20,600
Nothing I'm like the whatever, but I came here because I found it because of course I bring new audience to this channel

2320
02:26:20,600 --> 02:26:22,680
So it's like oh, but I'm too good for it to be talked about you know

2321
02:26:22,680 --> 02:26:27,360
You're literally taking something way out right and then not in this house

2322
02:26:27,360 --> 02:26:30,740
Like I feel uncomfortable coming here. I don't know what to do because you're having like a moment

2323
02:26:30,740 --> 02:26:34,440
I'm not I'm like honestly just one from it, but like I just hate people who think they're just too fucking good

2324
02:26:34,440 --> 02:26:37,960
It's not she's too good. She has a fucking podcast when you have a podcast you're talked about your life

2325
02:26:37,960 --> 02:26:41,860
Talk about you talk about most of you well before we did the podcast you guys talk about us never want to ask me anything

2326
02:26:41,860 --> 02:26:45,680
No, it's because you always make the same comment about her one thing this summer or when we most are dating you never

2327
02:26:45,680 --> 02:26:47,680
But you guys talk about I don't even know what you're on about

2328
02:26:47,680 --> 02:26:49,680
She just doesn't work guys. She's

2329
02:26:50,560 --> 02:26:53,320
Trisha is problematic. I will say that okay, definitely

2330
02:26:56,160 --> 02:27:00,080
My name you guys can talk about whoever you want you talk about me all spring when I you can talk about whatever you want to

2331
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:01,680
She just doesn't like that you always come on and say make it say

2332
02:27:01,680 --> 02:27:07,160
I'm not a fucking private figure. No, you guys are family. It's different. No, you're you're with her brother

2333
02:27:07,160 --> 02:27:08,360
I won't come back here. Like if you want me

2334
02:27:08,360 --> 02:27:11,200
I know you're on the fucking building too, but like I'm not gonna come back in this house because I'm so over it

2335
02:27:11,480 --> 02:27:15,200
She has a fucking podcast the public. What about you. It's about us like I'm so fucking over it. It's dude

2336
02:27:15,200 --> 02:27:18,720
It's not like that, but it is you guys. Oh, you guys have free brain to talk about especially me

2337
02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:22,160
You guys were talking to me and talk about me all spring. It's a family issue

2338
02:27:22,720 --> 02:27:27,760
Bro, hold on now. I'm starting to wonder if my lab and mr. Grilard was slacking

2339
02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:34,600
This is because not only is it dramatic because of the podcast. Okay, but she's talking about fucking

2340
02:27:34,960 --> 02:27:39,720
Ela and we've got the like in-law connection here and like the friends and the breath

2341
02:27:39,720 --> 02:27:43,720
This is like some and then the dueling podcast and the oh my god

2342
02:27:43,720 --> 02:27:49,200
There's like a lot going on here. There's a lot of content here. Hey issue. It's between Moses and Ela

2343
02:27:49,200 --> 02:27:52,320
Okay, cool. I'm great. Why don't you believe it was between me and Moses this spring

2344
02:27:52,320 --> 02:27:55,920
We had a fucking time in about it. Oh, I don't like it. Yeah, she said I don't I don't like it

2345
02:27:55,920 --> 02:27:58,600
I don't like it when Moses asked me not to talk about it. We stopped talking guys didn't yes

2346
02:27:58,600 --> 02:28:02,160
We did after the time when we showed the text between like all this is gonna be cut at some point

2347
02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:05,080
I don't I literally don't care cut it don't give a shit. Don't give a shit. I literally don't care

2348
02:28:05,080 --> 02:28:08,120
My most of them like you and you guys don't like him and that's cool. That's that you can't that's stupid

2349
02:28:08,120 --> 02:28:11,760
It's true. That's fucked up. That's the kind of that's the kind of shit you say that makes it you love Matt because you go

2350
02:28:11,760 --> 02:28:15,840
Moses doesn't like you. It's like what you're doing is you're causing problems in their family and that's fucked up

2351
02:28:15,840 --> 02:28:24,520
Yeah, maybe shouldn't read his private fucking message and there's a message that comes up and I see I'm not reading it. I see it

2352
02:28:25,720 --> 02:28:30,040
Guarantee you she's probably read more of fucking Moses's messages than he's absolutely

2353
02:28:30,040 --> 02:28:33,320
I she probably she probably logged in a his shit on her other devices

2354
02:28:33,320 --> 02:28:35,320
I bet that he doesn't even know

2355
02:28:35,880 --> 02:28:39,680
But the sister you shouldn't do that unless he shares it with you and he does. Okay, so what did he say?

2356
02:28:39,680 --> 02:28:41,680
So what did she say?

2357
02:28:42,480 --> 02:28:46,200
Brought up. I'm not talking about you. She's having conversation with her brother

2358
02:28:48,440 --> 02:28:52,520
Yeah, I think we should move on we have pizza on the way you're gonna you're just gonna forsake all the pizza

2359
02:28:52,520 --> 02:28:55,560
I don't want to like come back here for real like to the house because I don't feel comfortable. It's her house

2360
02:28:55,560 --> 02:28:56,840
I don't want to be in

2361
02:28:56,840 --> 02:29:00,800
You don't need the pizza we can finish this out, but I'm telling you are you still excited for the pizza right?

2362
02:29:00,800 --> 02:29:01,960
Yeah, I can't wait

2363
02:29:01,960 --> 02:29:07,640
That's sarcastic. I'm still excited for the pizza. Can we move past this I'm not a kid. I mean, that's pretty. I'm sure

2364
02:29:09,280 --> 02:29:13,160
What does that mean? You're not gonna have a babysitter when you have a kid how are you gonna do anything? You're gonna what does that mean?

2365
02:29:13,160 --> 02:29:15,160
You're trying to attack our parental abilities

2366
02:29:18,400 --> 02:29:22,040
Having a nanny my eyes. Yes, really? What about daycare?

2367
02:29:22,560 --> 02:29:24,160
They care's different. Why?

2368
02:29:24,160 --> 02:29:28,120
Daycare is nannies are like people come here and take care of your child all day because we're working

2369
02:29:28,120 --> 02:29:31,600
That's how everybody has nanny. They work people work. You take care of good and work

2370
02:29:31,600 --> 02:29:34,720
I know nanny my parents. I never had a nanny and so you think we're bad parents

2371
02:29:34,720 --> 02:29:36,800
That's what you're gonna do it. I said I would never have a nanny did I say you had a parent

2372
02:29:36,800 --> 02:29:41,360
You're putting words in my mouth I would never have a nanny if I said I think a lot of people have nannies a lot of employees have nannies

2373
02:29:41,360 --> 02:29:42,720
I would say you're bad because we both work, right?

2374
02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:45,320
And so we have a nanny that Theodore really likes me spends the whole day with her

2375
02:29:45,320 --> 02:29:46,960
And then when she's done around 4 30 we take over and spend

2376
02:29:47,800 --> 02:29:52,560
Think that's pretty normal. Okay. Why are you talking our parental? I'm not I said we're not having any of it with me

2377
02:29:52,560 --> 02:29:54,560
But I'm not talking your parenthesis. You do whatever you want

2378
02:29:55,440 --> 02:29:59,320
I'm not going to make that comment then I'm just saying I heard nanny upstairs. I was like, oh, I just don't want to have a nanny

2379
02:29:59,320 --> 02:30:01,320
Why'd you say it?

2380
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:01,180
because I want to have an anne.

2381
02:30:01,180 --> 02:30:02,020
I heard an anne.

2382
02:30:02,020 --> 02:30:03,180
- But you're clearly trying to say something about it.

2383
02:30:03,180 --> 02:30:04,480
- No, I'm not at all. That's you.

2384
02:30:04,480 --> 02:30:06,020
- Really? You just said it out of nowhere when you're mad at me?

2385
02:30:06,020 --> 02:30:06,860
- You're rejecting that.

2386
02:30:06,860 --> 02:30:07,700
- No, not.

2387
02:30:07,700 --> 02:30:09,100
Why would I, how am I projecting?

2388
02:30:09,980 --> 02:30:11,380
- 'Cause you're like, oh, you're attacking, I'm going to attack you?

2389
02:30:11,380 --> 02:30:12,220
I just thought I would have an anne.

2390
02:30:12,220 --> 02:30:13,060
- You think I'm a good dad?

2391
02:30:13,060 --> 02:30:14,120
- I have no idea. I never, I don't know.

2392
02:30:14,120 --> 02:30:15,140
You seem fine. You seem good with him.

2393
02:30:15,140 --> 02:30:17,040
I have no idea if you're a good dad, I can't say either way.

2394
02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:18,360
- But I have an anne.

2395
02:30:18,360 --> 02:30:19,200
That's a problem.

2396
02:30:19,200 --> 02:30:20,020
- I don't think it's a problem.

2397
02:30:20,020 --> 02:30:26,260
If I was lucky enough, I would just spend my time with the kid and figure it out where we could, you know, figure it out because my mom and dad did that, my mom was a single mom and we still never had it.

2398
02:30:26,260 --> 02:30:28,500
- Trisha's probably the reason I've watched you for the past two years.

2399
02:30:28,500 --> 02:30:34,140
I went from Trisha, H3 from frenemies, U from H3, covering the boogie, cancer, LOL.

2400
02:30:34,140 --> 02:30:35,120
Oh, Jesus.

2401
02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:35,620
- Brandy.

2402
02:30:35,620 --> 02:30:37,080
- She didn't work when you were like one and a half.

2403
02:30:37,080 --> 02:30:38,040
- She worked at night.

2404
02:30:38,040 --> 02:30:39,040
- Nobody watched you?

2405
02:30:39,040 --> 02:30:39,880
- My brother.

2406
02:30:39,880 --> 02:30:41,660
- Oh, well, he doesn't have a brother or a sister.

2407
02:30:41,660 --> 02:30:43,080
So should he just be by himself?

2408
02:30:43,080 --> 02:30:44,160
- Yeah, family, don't you?

2409
02:30:44,160 --> 02:30:45,080
You can't be with his grandparents.

2410
02:30:45,080 --> 02:30:46,240
- They're not here.

2411
02:30:46,240 --> 02:30:47,000
They have a life.

2412
02:30:47,000 --> 02:30:47,740
- They have life.

2413
02:30:47,740 --> 02:30:50,180
- I would let them come.

2414
02:30:50,180 --> 02:30:51,880
Okay, so then this is the problem with my family.

2415
02:30:51,880 --> 02:30:54,160
- Sure, put that out there, if that's the narrative you want to say, sure.

2416
02:30:54,160 --> 02:30:55,900
Whatever you want me to say, I will, if you want me to say that.

2417
02:30:55,900 --> 02:30:57,240
- I'm just trying to follow the threat because you're upset.

2418
02:30:57,240 --> 02:30:58,000
- There's no threat.

2419
02:30:58,000 --> 02:31:03,040
I literally made a comment that if I'm lucky enough to have kids, I can't fucking have kids, I'll be with them all the fucking time and make sure I can spend as much as I can with them.

2420
02:31:03,040 --> 02:31:05,480
- Don't you think it's healthy to be away from them sometimes?

2421
02:31:05,480 --> 02:31:07,040
- Yeah, but they should be with another family member.

2422
02:31:07,040 --> 02:31:08,560
- So they should never be with anyone that's not in their family?

2423
02:31:08,560 --> 02:31:09,760
- I don't believe in that at all.

2424
02:31:09,760 --> 02:31:10,880
- Seems extreme.

2425
02:31:10,880 --> 02:31:13,960
Seems like not everybody has that luxury.

2426
02:31:13,960 --> 02:31:14,240
You know?

2427
02:31:14,240 --> 02:31:17,520
- Sure, so should I quit or should I eat a liquid?

2428
02:31:17,520 --> 02:31:25,180
- It's not about quitting, it's about balancing your schedules, in my opinion, you can do whatever you want, but if it was me, it would be called balancing your fucking work schedules, especially because you're both blessed to be able to work for yourselves, like you should, I would balance it.

2429
02:31:25,180 --> 02:31:29,320
- So right now, Eli's at the job and I'm doing the podcast, so should I not do a podcast or should Eli should not be at the...

2430
02:31:29,320 --> 02:31:30,260
- I think both, I think we should get paid.

2431
02:31:30,260 --> 02:31:32,400
- Okay, I just want you to help with my schedule, so I'm not going to do a podcast.

2432
02:31:32,400 --> 02:31:33,560
- You might be doing my help, I'll give you your hand for my help.

2433
02:31:33,560 --> 02:31:35,240
- Yeah, I'm asking for your help schedule and my life from Theodore.

2434
02:31:35,240 --> 02:31:37,600
So I'm doing a podcast now, so Eli should be at home for sure.

2435
02:31:37,600 --> 02:31:45,400
- And then when I'm done with the podcast, she can go to the office and I'll be with Theodore.

2436
02:31:45,400 --> 02:31:46,400
- Yeah, I think that's a great schedule.

2437
02:31:46,400 --> 02:31:48,900
- Okay, and do you know what it's like being with a one and a half year old?

2438
02:31:48,900 --> 02:31:51,800
- Of course not 'cause I don't have a parent, it's a little insensitive because I'm infertile and it's a really big issue that I struggle with, though.

2439
02:31:51,800 --> 02:31:53,900
- Well, I ask is because you realize that you can't do any work when you're with...

2440
02:31:53,900 --> 02:31:56,500
- No, I have kids, no way of saying that you're saying to you, you have kids or I get my face that I don't, so...

2441
02:31:56,500 --> 02:31:57,000
- No, it's not what it's like.

2442
02:31:57,000 --> 02:31:58,500
- It's exactly what you're doing, because you know I don't have kids.

2443
02:31:58,500 --> 02:32:09,000
I won't be able to do anything else with the rest of the day when I have work to do, I have work, I'm a dog, I have a job, like most adults do, this is not even close to true on even side, though, one and a half year olds, their bodies are so fucking small.

2444
02:32:09,000 --> 02:32:13,500
Do you know how little Gaba, you need to actually just get them to nap, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding, video game, just kidding, just kidding.

2445
02:32:13,500 --> 02:32:16,500
- What happens if you're two parents and you have to go like...

2446
02:32:16,500 --> 02:32:19,500
- Where's your mom and dad don't want to watch the door? They don't want to have something like a pen with him.

2447
02:32:19,500 --> 02:32:21,500
I know my mom would be like, "Oh, that's your mom."

2448
02:32:21,500 --> 02:32:23,500
- Right, I'm just giving you my perspective, you asked my mom.

2449
02:32:23,500 --> 02:32:24,500
- So your Chris says my mom.

2450
02:32:24,500 --> 02:32:25,500
- You said I gave me my perspective.

2451
02:32:25,500 --> 02:32:28,500
- No, I want yours beyond, I want your perspective.

2452
02:32:28,500 --> 02:32:29,500
- That's all I said.

2453
02:32:29,500 --> 02:32:33,500
- Well, I do wish you guys have a kid, and I'm sure it'll be great, and I hope that you quit doing everything you do in life, just be with that kid.

2454
02:32:33,500 --> 02:32:35,500
- I would make it work for myself, and you know what, that's when you find someone...

2455
02:32:35,500 --> 02:32:39,500
- And I hope Moses goes with every single thing he does to be with a kid every single moment when you're on, when you are...

2456
02:32:39,500 --> 02:32:41,500
- That's totally fine if he wants to, if he doesn't want to, whatever he wants to do.

2457
02:32:41,500 --> 02:32:43,500
- Yeah, like everybody does with kids. They quit everything they do.

2458
02:32:43,500 --> 02:32:46,500
- When you have a kid, you should probably be with that as much as possible, not with the strangers.

2459
02:32:46,500 --> 02:32:47,500
- Be with it?

2460
02:32:47,500 --> 02:32:49,500
- Yeah, Abby's not a stranger.

2461
02:32:49,500 --> 02:32:51,500
- He's not your family.

2462
02:32:51,500 --> 02:32:55,500
- I mean, Dan's not family, but I trust him.

2463
02:32:55,500 --> 02:32:56,500
- Okay.

2464
02:32:56,500 --> 02:32:57,500
- The pizza's here.

2465
02:32:57,500 --> 02:32:58,500
- Wow.

2466
02:32:58,500 --> 02:32:59,500
- Should we keep doing beauty products?

2467
02:32:59,500 --> 02:33:00,500
- Whatever you want.

2468
02:33:00,500 --> 02:33:02,500
- All right, let's do it.

2469
02:33:02,500 --> 02:33:03,500
What triggered you again, what were we talking about?

2470
02:33:03,500 --> 02:33:06,500
- You were being too good for me to talk about this podcast, so I don't fucking mention her, and she's fucking queen.

2471
02:33:06,500 --> 02:33:08,500
Like, don't even fucking mention me on the podcast.

2472
02:33:08,500 --> 02:33:09,500
- Right, that's why.

2473
02:33:09,500 --> 02:33:10,500
- You know, I'm a literal podcaster.

2474
02:33:10,500 --> 02:33:11,500
- Right, that's why.

2475
02:33:11,500 --> 02:33:13,500
- Oil, you want to do the oil?

2476
02:33:13,500 --> 02:33:15,500
The pizza's here, everybody.

2477
02:33:15,500 --> 02:33:16,500
Whoo!

2478
02:33:16,500 --> 02:33:17,500
The pizza's here.

2479
02:33:17,500 --> 02:33:19,500
We had a full meltdown while you were gone.

2480
02:33:19,500 --> 02:33:21,500
- That's another text from your sister.

2481
02:33:21,500 --> 02:33:22,500
I'm not coming back to the house.

2482
02:33:22,500 --> 02:33:23,500
I'm not.

2483
02:33:23,500 --> 02:33:24,500
- No.

2484
02:33:24,500 --> 02:33:25,500
- Moses said, "What happened?"

2485
02:33:25,500 --> 02:33:28,500
You know, this is the literal meme where you walk in with the pizza and the room's on fire.

2486
02:33:28,500 --> 02:33:31,500
This is the literal meme where you come back with the pizza.

2487
02:33:31,500 --> 02:33:32,500
- Oh my God.

2488
02:33:32,500 --> 02:33:33,500
- I just left a good pizza.

2489
02:33:33,500 --> 02:33:34,500
- Sorry.

2490
02:33:34,500 --> 02:33:37,500
- She's literally upset because she was saying how Eli doesn't like her.

2491
02:33:37,500 --> 02:33:38,500
- Oh, Eli says, "Don't talk about me in the podcast.

2492
02:33:38,500 --> 02:33:39,500
All I said was, "We can't mention Eli.

2493
02:33:39,500 --> 02:33:40,500
She doesn't want me to talk about it."

2494
02:33:40,500 --> 02:33:41,500
Oh, she's too good for fucking podcasting, though.

2495
02:33:41,500 --> 02:33:42,500
We were talking about the never once insulted me.

2496
02:33:42,500 --> 02:33:43,500
- I said it's a problem.

2497
02:33:43,500 --> 02:33:44,500
- She has a fucking podcast.

2498
02:33:44,500 --> 02:33:49,500
I said nothing bad, I said, "Oh, whichever is a guest or whatever.

2499
02:33:49,500 --> 02:33:50,500
I don't want to mention Eli.

2500
02:33:50,500 --> 02:33:51,500
Just want to talk about fucking shit."

2501
02:33:51,500 --> 02:33:52,500
- Hold on.

2502
02:33:52,500 --> 02:33:53,500
What is the...

2503
02:33:53,500 --> 02:33:59,500
Moses is Eli's brother, right?

2504
02:33:59,500 --> 02:34:05,500
Man, I need more background on Eli and Trisha because she fucking hates Eli.

2505
02:34:05,500 --> 02:34:06,500
Oh my God.

2506
02:34:06,500 --> 02:34:07,500
She fucking hates her.

2507
02:34:07,500 --> 02:34:11,300
I'm curious if it's because of just podcast stuff or if there's some life decisions things

2508
02:34:11,300 --> 02:34:14,300
or something that's going on, but she hates her.

2509
02:34:14,300 --> 02:34:19,300
Maybe before this episode, she fucking hates Eli, but I wonder why.

2510
02:34:19,300 --> 02:34:27,580
I wonder if at some point Moses was talking to Eli about dating her and I wonder if Eli

2511
02:34:27,580 --> 02:34:31,780
at some point early on said that Moses shouldn't date this girl for some reason and she's like

2512
02:34:31,780 --> 02:34:34,540
kept it ever since, or there could be other things too, who knows, I don't know, something

2513
02:34:34,540 --> 02:34:36,540
happened and these guys fucking hate each other.

2514
02:34:36,540 --> 02:34:37,540
- We don't care.

2515
02:34:37,540 --> 02:34:40,000
Literally, I don't want to come back and I really fucking hate her.

2516
02:34:40,000 --> 02:34:42,500
- So she always making comments about the family and how...

2517
02:34:42,500 --> 02:34:44,500
- I wasn't, that wasn't it.

2518
02:34:44,500 --> 02:34:45,500
- That's right.

2519
02:34:45,500 --> 02:34:46,500
- I said oh, you listen to Jen on the podcast and you're like, don't fucking mention Eli.

2520
02:34:46,500 --> 02:34:48,500
She don't want to talk about oh, a fucking queen, you guys talk about my shit all the time,

2521
02:34:48,500 --> 02:34:50,500
but her, don't fucking mention her name.

2522
02:34:50,500 --> 02:34:51,500
Dumb fucking bitch.

2523
02:34:51,500 --> 02:34:52,500
- Okay.

2524
02:34:52,500 --> 02:34:53,500
- I think we should end it honestly.

2525
02:34:53,500 --> 02:34:54,500
- Yeah, I think so.

2526
02:34:54,500 --> 02:34:55,500
Jesus Christ.

2527
02:34:55,500 --> 02:34:56,500
- She's not a fucking bitch.

2528
02:34:56,500 --> 02:34:57,500
- She's not.

2529
02:34:57,500 --> 02:34:58,500
- And you are too.

2530
02:34:58,500 --> 02:34:59,500
You're a fucking cop.

2531
02:34:59,500 --> 02:35:00,500
- You take a cop.

2532
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:04,080
Alright, you should leave. We'll talk later. Sorry. Yeah, you should get it. I am going but I'm not talking later

2533
02:35:08,540 --> 02:35:10,540
It's not about dumping I

2534
02:35:12,600 --> 02:35:18,480
Don't know what happened you better. Just askers and I don't know. There's a third pizza. You're so not good about this

2535
02:35:20,480 --> 02:35:24,800
They just come back like nothing. All right, okay. That's the last clip. I think

2536
02:35:26,000 --> 02:35:30,220
We're not gonna be in a vice as a stupid segment. I can do it. It's so dumb. What's the point to give advice to our fans?

2537
02:35:30,220 --> 02:35:33,740
Oh, no, that's like when people run out of ideas and start doing Q&A. It's like I hope you're an idea to do Q&A now

2538
02:35:33,740 --> 02:35:35,740
Because there's nothing else to talk about. Hey, go on

2539
02:35:36,280 --> 02:35:38,280
It's such a dumb segment. It's so not

2540
02:35:39,080 --> 02:35:45,040
Trisha did admit to him or to being physically abusive towards Moses and she also made him get rid of his two cats Ethan's

2541
02:35:45,440 --> 02:35:47,640
Dan now is Moses's cats

2542
02:35:53,880 --> 02:35:58,960
Because Ella's a square. That's why she's like a straight-list person who can't play along with jokes like even with Ethan

2543
02:35:59,040 --> 02:36:02,280
She's just there and her role is more like a straight man his jokey personality

2544
02:36:02,480 --> 02:36:07,520
Trisha has a huge personality and is able to be run for sure. Yeah, but that shouldn't make her hate to Ella

2545
02:36:07,920 --> 02:36:11,340
That's there's something something more definitely happen there

2546
02:36:12,800 --> 02:36:14,800
Why not to give advice to our fans

2547
02:36:15,240 --> 02:36:18,240
That's like when people run out of ideas and start doing Q&A's like I hope we ran ideas so we're gonna do Q&A's now

2548
02:36:18,240 --> 02:36:20,960
Because there's nothing else to talk about. Hey, go on after Trisha had kids

2549
02:36:20,960 --> 02:36:23,960
She got a nanny that so the nanny thing is interesting. I

2550
02:36:25,160 --> 02:36:30,920
Think this used to be a femme cell talking point kind of and then it also got picked up by red pill

2551
02:36:31,160 --> 02:36:35,200
But generally the nanny argument is on the red pill side

2552
02:36:35,200 --> 02:36:39,280
It's a way to attack like globalism and feminism and then on the femme cell side

2553
02:36:39,280 --> 02:36:43,320
I think it's usually a way to just attack the women. So I'm more familiar with the red pill arguments

2554
02:36:43,320 --> 02:36:49,280
This is basically it's really important for children to be with their parents and the idea that capitalism and globalism has made it

2555
02:36:49,280 --> 02:36:52,960
So we're all wage slaves means that your children instead of spending time with their parents like this opposed to you're now

2556
02:36:52,960 --> 02:36:55,760
Just being off-shore to nannies who aren't even the real parents

2557
02:36:55,760 --> 02:37:00,680
And this is like a failure of the modern era and then I think sometimes I don't spend as much time in femme cell spaces

2558
02:37:00,680 --> 02:37:01,880
But I think sometimes

2559
02:37:01,880 --> 02:37:04,560
femme cells would attack the mothers in

2560
02:37:04,680 --> 02:37:08,920
Relationships basically saying like you guys have the opportunity to be real moms to your kids and you're not even doing it

2561
02:37:08,920 --> 02:37:12,960
You're offloading the work to a nanny, which is also extra upsetting because

2562
02:37:13,600 --> 02:37:14,560
sometimes

2563
02:37:14,560 --> 02:37:19,760
It's complicated interactions. I don't know but like sometimes people will be upset when you get married and you have kids

2564
02:37:19,960 --> 02:37:22,400
Okay, especially if you don't have kids at the very least

2565
02:37:22,400 --> 02:37:26,200
You know that person has to make some sacrifices in their life to have kids and have like the child lifestyle

2566
02:37:26,200 --> 02:37:32,760
But if the person has a nanny now somehow this bitch has got kids and she's got so many to take care of her kids

2567
02:37:32,760 --> 02:37:33,600
So she's still having fun

2568
02:37:33,600 --> 02:37:36,520
So she got to have kids in a family and isn't even like sacrificing a whole like to do it

2569
02:37:36,520 --> 02:37:40,640
And that can breed a lot of resentment in like femme cell areas or just pencil adjacent areas sometimes

2570
02:37:40,640 --> 02:37:44,480
But again, I don't spend too much time on those meetings. I don't know if that's like if these are like the main talking

2571
02:37:44,480 --> 02:37:46,480
What's going anymore, but

2572
02:37:48,200 --> 02:37:54,120
It's such a dumb segment. It's so not it's all about the time all that to say that like when she was talking about the nanny thing

2573
02:37:54,320 --> 02:37:57,360
Just my perception wasn't that she had a really strong feelings about nannies

2574
02:37:57,360 --> 02:38:03,120
It was just a way to attack Ethan and Ela for being bad parents to say that is basically what it this would have felt like

2575
02:38:04,080 --> 02:38:07,640
Well, what you want to talk more about the what broke back mountain a movie from fucking like 10 years ago

2576
02:38:07,640 --> 02:38:11,400
Like a lazy podcast like we're in my games. Oh, yeah, you don't do anything for it. You're sure we do all the work

2577
02:38:11,400 --> 02:38:13,400
Oh my god. Yeah, right?

2578
02:38:13,400 --> 02:38:14,880
How am I wrong?

2579
02:38:14,880 --> 02:38:18,240
With what I always contribute you never like first of all when you were doing all the podcast

2580
02:38:18,240 --> 02:38:19,320
It was like teams are dick Paul again

2581
02:38:19,320 --> 02:38:22,000
Everyone's like we're so sick of hearing about this because everything I saw in this you had stuff from last entry

2582
02:38:22,000 --> 02:38:23,240
You just recycle each three content on front of me

2583
02:38:23,240 --> 02:38:25,320
You're like, oh, we're gonna trick you to the history meme or whatever and if you already did that

2584
02:38:25,320 --> 02:38:27,200
I didn't bring it up. I didn't say it

2585
02:38:27,200 --> 02:38:30,660
But the fact that I had to bring up all these other topics because I don't want to go to that because you brought it up last week

2586
02:38:30,660 --> 02:38:32,160
Let's see

2587
02:38:32,160 --> 02:38:33,760
We put together this Gabby Hannah segment

2588
02:38:33,760 --> 02:38:38,640
I literally again could have done that for my head. I always drive in with my top it is kind of crazy if they're if the h3 podcast is

2589
02:38:38,640 --> 02:38:42,880
Regularly talking about her that that is a little bit crazy if that's happened

2590
02:38:44,480 --> 02:38:47,920
I always do because like I try and what you bring on the Logan Paul fight. I brought it up first of all

2591
02:38:47,920 --> 02:38:48,880
I'm running

2592
02:38:48,880 --> 02:38:52,160
You know, I don't even know what to say about it. Yeah, I don't even know why people what I never pick the costume

2593
02:38:52,160 --> 02:38:53,960
I never do the vlogs. I give so many ideas. I say damn thing for the vlogs

2594
02:38:53,960 --> 02:38:55,760
I give all these ideas and you don't let's just run with that for you

2595
02:38:55,760 --> 02:38:57,760
I don't think it's a good segment

2596
02:38:57,760 --> 02:39:01,560
The people want to hear from us. Okay, good. Well, you my video and well the vlogs we've done

2597
02:39:01,560 --> 02:39:04,680
I suggested other vlogs and like that never does. Well, you don't like it. We shouldn't do it. Okay

2598
02:39:06,080 --> 02:39:08,480
Because it's about show about me and you know, but you're saying I do all the work

2599
02:39:08,480 --> 02:39:10,080
But I'm telling you I don't like all the stuff you do. I'm just trying to go with it

2600
02:39:10,080 --> 02:39:12,560
Okay, I guess it's what you want to do but I have to start saying no because some things are just not good ideas

2601
02:39:13,880 --> 02:39:15,880
I like it for the rest. I

2602
02:39:16,280 --> 02:39:18,920
Hope you got really interesting questions. They're not the home

2603
02:39:20,320 --> 02:39:22,320
Brutal

2604
02:39:22,320 --> 02:39:27,240
Brutal I just don't like when we sound like whatever but you're asking like we do all the work

2605
02:39:27,240 --> 02:39:30,080
It's like we spent one friend of me is rehashing all the stuff you said about King Star history live

2606
02:39:30,080 --> 02:39:33,960
Which is two days prior one time. No, it's happened before we just like bring up something you already mentioned. It's fine

2607
02:39:33,960 --> 02:39:37,920
Are you attacking me? You asked me you said tell me and I'm telling you like all your just because everything doesn't mean

2608
02:39:37,920 --> 02:39:40,680
It's good. It's recycled a lot of it. So it's like I can come up with a lot of it a lot of it

2609
02:39:40,680 --> 02:39:43,320
No, if you have ideas on all your I watch a true live and we talk about the same thing

2610
02:39:43,320 --> 02:39:45,320
And I'm happy to talk about it. It's not always like that. It's happened before I agree

2611
02:39:45,320 --> 02:39:48,280
I'm having last time. It's happened a lot. I didn't have the most time did it?

2612
02:39:48,760 --> 02:39:51,600
The title was like pregnancy announcement. I'm happy to talk about the pregnancy

2613
02:39:51,600 --> 02:39:54,400
We talked a lot about the pregnancy, but it wasn't the pregnancy and I was it's you're I just think what I'm happy to talk about

2614
02:39:54,400 --> 02:39:59,500
I'm happy for you guys, but to say like oh, we don't recycle things. It's like, you know, you do and it's fine, but I don't make it the same title cuz it's not an announcement we're talking about

2615
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:00,840
- Cycling.

2616
02:40:00,840 --> 02:40:01,660
It's a different conversation.

2617
02:40:01,660 --> 02:40:02,500
- The original one was Tricia's gonna,

2618
02:40:02,500 --> 02:40:03,340
something that had to be about me

2619
02:40:03,340 --> 02:40:04,160
but I'm just saying the fact that the pregnancy announcement,

2620
02:40:04,160 --> 02:40:05,000
again, when it's not a pregnancy announcement

2621
02:40:05,000 --> 02:40:05,840
'cause I'm not pregnant.

2622
02:40:05,840 --> 02:40:06,680
You know what I mean?

2623
02:40:06,680 --> 02:40:07,520
You were talking about your guys' pregnancy.

2624
02:40:07,520 --> 02:40:08,340
It wasn't an announcement.

2625
02:40:08,340 --> 02:40:09,180
You announced it on each three live.

2626
02:40:09,180 --> 02:40:10,080
- Oh, you thought that people would think it was about

2627
02:40:10,080 --> 02:40:10,900
you being pregnant.

2628
02:40:10,900 --> 02:40:11,740
- Of course it was.

2629
02:40:11,740 --> 02:40:12,580
Unless you're just recycling the same title

2630
02:40:12,580 --> 02:40:13,420
you did for each three live, which is not.

2631
02:40:13,420 --> 02:40:14,260
It's just like, I watch each three live.

2632
02:40:14,260 --> 02:40:15,100
I don't wanna talk about it on front of me.

2633
02:40:15,100 --> 02:40:16,300
It's like, if we're being honest, you know.

2634
02:40:16,300 --> 02:40:17,140
- Well, we were gonna talk about you

2635
02:40:17,140 --> 02:40:17,980
being pregnant on this.

2636
02:40:17,980 --> 02:40:37,620
The title has to be pregnancy announcement.

2637
02:40:37,620 --> 02:40:38,700
- That's crazy.

2638
02:40:38,700 --> 02:40:39,660
- Sometimes I forget what I've talked about on it.

2639
02:40:39,660 --> 02:40:40,500
- But you're saying you have all this credit.

2640
02:40:40,500 --> 02:40:41,340
Does all this work for you?

2641
02:40:41,340 --> 02:40:42,160
And nobody can remember that you talked about that

2642
02:40:42,160 --> 02:40:43,160
two days prior?

2643
02:40:43,160 --> 02:40:45,340
- I agree, so we should've said something.

2644
02:40:45,340 --> 02:40:46,340
I was like, guys, why don't you tell me

2645
02:40:46,340 --> 02:40:47,940
when I'm talking about the same shit over and over?

2646
02:40:47,940 --> 02:40:49,700
Because I tell to them, I go, yo, make sure

2647
02:40:49,700 --> 02:40:50,540
and include this and they go, okay.

2648
02:40:50,540 --> 02:40:51,860
But I go, oh shit, I talked about the same thing.

2649
02:40:51,860 --> 02:40:53,340
But I feel like you're so angry about this.

2650
02:40:53,340 --> 02:40:55,560
- I'm not really not, but I'm angry when you say something.

2651
02:40:55,560 --> 02:40:57,020
- You need to admit when you're angry.

2652
02:40:57,020 --> 02:40:58,600
- Ethan, I promise you, this is really exciting.

2653
02:40:58,600 --> 02:40:59,440
I go to a lot of therapy right now.

2654
02:40:59,440 --> 02:41:00,740
This really is, when I say I'm not angry, I'm not.

2655
02:41:00,740 --> 02:41:01,860
I'm just trying to tell you that you're like,

2656
02:41:01,860 --> 02:41:03,180
oh, we do everything for the show and I'm saying,

2657
02:41:03,180 --> 02:41:04,020
it's not always good.

2658
02:41:04,020 --> 02:41:04,860
I'm not angry.

2659
02:41:04,860 --> 02:41:05,700
If I was angry, I was like, leave or something,

2660
02:41:05,700 --> 02:41:06,520
but I'm not, but you tell me I'm angry.

2661
02:41:06,520 --> 02:41:07,360
- So you're upset, or something.

2662
02:41:07,360 --> 02:41:24,120
But it is frustrating when you think you do all this work

2663
02:41:24,120 --> 02:41:25,040
and we're doing all this great stuff and it's like,

2664
02:41:25,040 --> 02:41:25,880
it's not that great sometimes.

2665
02:41:25,880 --> 02:41:27,880
A lot of it is, and I appreciate all the work you do

2666
02:41:27,880 --> 02:41:28,880
and stuff like that, but it's also like,

2667
02:41:28,880 --> 02:41:29,720
not that great.

2668
02:41:29,720 --> 02:41:30,720
I don't get input on people we hire.

2669
02:41:30,720 --> 02:41:32,520
- People we hire, why would I ask about people I hire?

2670
02:41:32,520 --> 02:41:33,520
- Because it's front of me and you take the budget

2671
02:41:33,520 --> 02:41:34,520
for paying good crew, that's what you told me.

2672
02:41:34,520 --> 02:41:35,520
You take highlights, you take 5% to pay the crew.

2673
02:41:35,520 --> 02:41:36,520
So why don't I get any input on crew or what we do?

2674
02:41:36,520 --> 02:41:39,720
I take 5% extra from the podcast revenue

2675
02:41:39,720 --> 02:41:41,320
and I take the highlights revenue

2676
02:41:41,320 --> 02:41:42,520
and everything else we split.

2677
02:41:42,520 --> 02:41:43,760
- Right, so for production costs.

2678
02:41:43,760 --> 02:41:44,600
- Yeah.

2679
02:41:44,600 --> 02:41:46,500
- But again, you were about to move us all to downtown LA

2680
02:41:46,500 --> 02:41:47,800
and I was just like, but the production cost should be

2681
02:41:47,800 --> 02:41:48,640
included.

2682
02:41:48,640 --> 02:41:49,800
You were gonna share the cameras because Dan said,

2683
02:41:49,800 --> 02:41:50,800
oh, we have to get new computers and new cameras.

2684
02:41:50,800 --> 02:41:51,640
Like, front of us, that's the budget.

2685
02:41:51,640 --> 02:41:52,480
- And I oblige you.

2686
02:41:52,480 --> 02:41:53,300
I said, okay, fine.

2687
02:41:53,300 --> 02:41:54,140
- But you fought beyond it.

2688
02:41:54,140 --> 02:41:55,640
- Because we haven't, we bought a studio downtown

2689
02:41:55,640 --> 02:41:56,780
that was always the plan, by the way,

2690
02:41:56,780 --> 02:41:57,840
that we were gonna move downtown.

2691
02:41:57,840 --> 02:41:58,680
And then all of a sudden we'll go,

2692
02:41:58,680 --> 02:42:00,340
and I was like, yo, I told you ahead of time,

2693
02:42:00,340 --> 02:42:01,180
but it's fine because I was--

2694
02:42:01,180 --> 02:42:07,180
- So I said, okay, by the way, we moved into our new office,

2695
02:42:07,180 --> 02:42:08,620
and then you're like, oh, I don't want to go down there.

2696
02:42:08,620 --> 02:42:10,620
But we had made all these plans to move the set

2697
02:42:10,620 --> 02:42:11,460
and everything and to do everything.

2698
02:42:11,460 --> 02:42:12,460
So you're like, I don't want to go down there.

2699
02:42:12,460 --> 02:42:13,460
And then we talked about it for a little bit.

2700
02:42:13,460 --> 02:42:14,300
And I said, okay, fine.

2701
02:42:14,300 --> 02:42:15,120
And so we had to buy--

2702
02:42:15,120 --> 02:42:15,960
- But that's the first time we ever spent

2703
02:42:15,960 --> 02:42:16,960
money on production costs.

2704
02:42:16,960 --> 02:42:17,960
- It's not about that, dude.

2705
02:42:17,960 --> 02:42:18,960
It's literally about we are producing the show

2706
02:42:18,960 --> 02:42:19,960
and I'm taking a cut.

2707
02:42:19,960 --> 02:42:20,960
I feel like that's beyond reasonable.

2708
02:42:20,960 --> 02:42:21,800
- All the highlights.

2709
02:42:21,800 --> 02:42:22,800
- Be all reasonable.

2710
02:42:22,800 --> 02:42:23,800
- 5%, 5%.

2711
02:42:23,800 --> 02:42:24,800
Do you realize how much 5% was our last one?

2712
02:42:24,800 --> 02:42:25,800
That should be enough.

2713
02:42:25,800 --> 02:42:31,880
I don't know if I tell you about the members, 50% of all the members even though we work

2714
02:42:31,880 --> 02:42:32,880
and do all the work, I don't know why you fight me on money.

2715
02:42:32,880 --> 02:42:33,880
The deal you have is beyond reasonable.

2716
02:42:33,880 --> 02:42:34,880
No, but I feel like a lot of frustration

2717
02:42:34,880 --> 02:42:35,880
you have about everything with that.

2718
02:42:35,880 --> 02:42:36,880
- Not frustrated.

2719
02:42:36,880 --> 02:42:37,880
I want to raise up up.

2720
02:42:37,880 --> 02:42:38,880
You get defensive.

2721
02:42:38,880 --> 02:42:39,880
I'm not frustrated.

2722
02:42:39,880 --> 02:42:40,880
I'm pointing out these things because I would like to know

2723
02:42:40,880 --> 02:42:41,880
I just want everything to be a lot more transparent

2724
02:42:41,880 --> 02:42:42,880
because I'm like, what are the production costs?

2725
02:42:42,880 --> 02:42:43,880
- Can you show me all the cost of production at you?

2726
02:42:43,880 --> 02:42:44,880
- It's not like I do my thing.

2727
02:42:44,880 --> 02:42:45,880
We are doing the show.

2728
02:42:45,880 --> 02:42:46,880
That's the cost.

2729
02:42:46,880 --> 02:42:47,880
- Y'all think 5% is like enough for the--

2730
02:42:47,880 --> 02:42:48,880
- 5% and the highlights was what we agreed to beginning.

2731
02:42:48,880 --> 02:43:02,720
That's what it is.

2732
02:43:02,720 --> 02:43:04,920
- You brought Adam and Eve and so that was one sponsor we worked with.

2733
02:43:04,920 --> 02:43:05,920
- That's all we had for the first time.

2734
02:43:05,920 --> 02:43:07,920
- And now we have the tons of sponsors every episode because it takes time.

2735
02:43:07,920 --> 02:43:09,920
You get the show up and pitching and you get 50% of all that.

2736
02:43:09,920 --> 02:43:11,600
I feel like the deal you get is super fair.

2737
02:43:11,600 --> 02:43:13,960
And I feel like you're gaslighting me to be honest saying that you're not frustrated

2738
02:43:13,960 --> 02:43:14,960
about it.

2739
02:43:14,960 --> 02:43:15,960
- But I'm not.

2740
02:43:15,960 --> 02:43:16,960
- Because it really is a source of like every time something comes up

2741
02:43:16,960 --> 02:43:20,160
and you hired somebody or this, that and like, oh, you don't do that much on the show.

2742
02:43:20,160 --> 02:43:21,160
- I'm bringing attention to it.

2743
02:43:21,160 --> 02:43:22,160
I would text you.

2744
02:43:22,160 --> 02:43:23,160
I would call you.

2745
02:43:23,160 --> 02:43:25,160
- It literally always comes down to, oh, well, you get this extra 5%.

2746
02:43:25,160 --> 02:43:26,160
And so--

2747
02:43:26,160 --> 02:43:27,160
- Because you're saying why can I get an input on the employees?

2748
02:43:27,160 --> 02:43:28,160
That's what you said.

2749
02:43:28,160 --> 02:43:29,160
And you brought up to me that--

2750
02:43:29,160 --> 02:43:30,160
- They're not just working for enemies.

2751
02:43:30,160 --> 02:43:31,160
They're my employees.

2752
02:43:31,160 --> 02:43:32,160
- Okay.

2753
02:43:32,160 --> 02:43:33,160
But when I said that to you originally, you said, oh, we pay the employees.

2754
02:43:33,160 --> 02:43:34,160
- How would you deal with the situation?

2755
02:43:34,160 --> 02:43:35,160
Are you her asking for more money here?

2756
02:43:35,160 --> 02:43:36,160
I don't know.

2757
02:43:36,160 --> 02:43:40,520
You have to like, there's something that people say that if you're in a healthy relationship,

2758
02:43:40,520 --> 02:43:46,920
you shouldn't ever be like keeping tabs on what you do for your partner, so like, you don't want to keep tabs on like, I bought dinner yesterday.

2759
02:43:46,920 --> 02:43:48,920
You bought this, then I spent five minutes doing this.

2760
02:43:48,920 --> 02:43:49,920
You spent an hour doing this.

2761
02:43:49,920 --> 02:44:08,520
Like, this is true, broadly speaking, but it is important to have some kind of general running tally in the back of your head because the problem is that if issues come up, then people will bring out basically the receipts and like, well, hold on, one percentage of this, one percentage of that.

2762
02:44:08,520 --> 02:44:09,520
So it's good to have this stuff.

2763
02:44:09,520 --> 02:44:11,520
Like, as formally set out as possible.

2764
02:44:11,520 --> 02:44:14,520
So like, if she's doing work to get sponsors or whatever, and he's not paying her for it.

2765
02:44:14,520 --> 02:44:26,520
And then he's giving her money that she's not really working for because of the whatever bullshit, like, it's good to just have all of this in writing in paper because once people, when feelings get hurt, and then it gets dragged out in the future, people are going to have different interpretations of like, what's fair and what's not fair.

2766
02:44:26,520 --> 02:44:27,520
You know, yeah.

2767
02:44:27,520 --> 02:44:28,520
- We'll be working on other things.

2768
02:44:28,520 --> 02:44:31,520
So why don't we have front of me as employees and I get input if we're spending five percent of the budget towards them.

2769
02:44:31,520 --> 02:44:33,520
- I think that's not what it is.

2770
02:44:33,520 --> 02:44:34,520
- That's what you did.

2771
02:44:34,520 --> 02:44:35,520
- So then that's, I don't remember about that.

2772
02:44:35,520 --> 02:44:36,520
- I don't remember about that.

2773
02:44:36,520 --> 02:44:39,520
I don't remember how they feel and you're telling me how I feel and I'm telling you I don't feel frustrated or upset.

2774
02:44:39,520 --> 02:44:40,520
So I don't know what else that could be.

2775
02:44:40,520 --> 02:44:41,520
How am I guessing you guys telling you I'm not feeling this way?

2776
02:44:41,520 --> 02:44:42,520
How is that guys saying I'm not feeling this way?

2777
02:44:42,520 --> 02:44:43,520
- Okay.

2778
02:44:43,520 --> 02:44:44,520
- I wouldn't show up.

2779
02:44:44,520 --> 02:44:45,520
I wouldn't come here.

2780
02:44:45,520 --> 02:44:46,520
- Listen, you can be upset and not happy.

2781
02:44:46,520 --> 02:44:47,520
- I love it.

2782
02:44:47,520 --> 02:44:50,520
- Because you can be upset and then also not be like, I'm not showing up.

2783
02:44:50,520 --> 02:44:51,520
Fuck you.

2784
02:44:51,520 --> 02:44:52,520
- I'm not upset.

2785
02:44:52,520 --> 02:44:53,520
- I'm just complaining.

2786
02:44:53,520 --> 02:44:54,520
I'm just because you can be upset and still show up.

2787
02:44:54,520 --> 02:44:55,520
- I'm not upset.

2788
02:44:55,520 --> 02:44:56,520
- Okay.

2789
02:44:56,520 --> 02:44:57,520
All right.

2790
02:44:57,520 --> 02:44:58,520
- Because you're not upset.

2791
02:44:58,520 --> 02:44:59,520
You're perfectly in a perfect condition right now.

2792
02:44:59,520 --> 02:45:00,520
- Okay.

2793
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:04,440
Holy cow that's crazy. I mean I don't know how you just don't see what you

2794
02:45:04,440 --> 02:45:07,040
just did that's that's really what did I do I mean we have to end it now like

2795
02:45:07,040 --> 02:45:11,520
really what did I do we got to stop for real for real for real for real this time

2796
02:45:11,520 --> 02:45:16,200
for real for real please please whenever you're ready you can walk away so no cuz

2797
02:45:16,200 --> 02:45:20,640
I don't want to title it's the pizza curse it's the pizza curse it is mm-hmm

2798
02:45:20,640 --> 02:45:25,520
we shouldn't have got pizza the pizza oh no what pizza let me just say

2799
02:45:25,520 --> 02:45:28,660
I'm sorry you just did that you're right you're right you're right with you that's

2800
02:45:28,660 --> 02:45:32,000
but I go you know how to therapy I go to a week I go to four but you can't understand

2801
02:45:32,000 --> 02:45:37,600
but okay there are four times a week right Trisha everything's fine that's

2802
02:45:37,600 --> 02:45:41,000
insane like the fact that you do that to me it's not insane we're friendly

2803
02:45:41,000 --> 02:45:43,280
conversation I don't have to I shouldn't have to walk on eggshells around

2804
02:45:43,280 --> 02:45:46,560
everything I say all right you can see any time to show then you're making this

2805
02:45:46,560 --> 02:45:48,360
thing where we're not ending the show and you get to sit here okay well that

2806
02:45:48,360 --> 02:45:50,280
just happened and you're eating pizza and I will end the show the minute you

2807
02:45:50,280 --> 02:45:52,600
walk all right so let's just let's just end it please thank you guys for

2808
02:45:52,600 --> 02:45:54,240
watching and I just I don't want it to be a thing where you're just sitting here

2809
02:45:54,240 --> 02:45:58,600
and becoming mean so then I'll say I'm sorry okay obviously I don't want to

2810
02:45:58,600 --> 02:46:02,880
have an argument okay all right we're done thank you guys

2811
02:46:08,320 --> 02:46:11,480
all right

2812
02:46:21,600 --> 02:46:27,880
okay I don't care about that much okay I didn't plan I just wanted to get the

2813
02:46:28,600 --> 02:46:34,400
they're just for the end of this all right to it I feel like I have a broad

2814
02:46:34,400 --> 02:46:37,760
overview at least for like five years so I have nothing to say about her I

2815
02:46:37,760 --> 02:46:40,400
don't know like I literally don't know I haven't been around we haven't talked

2816
02:46:40,400 --> 02:46:47,200
but eaten to me is not part of the family anymore so I can definitely talk

2817
02:46:47,200 --> 02:46:53,800
about it and at first he did everything good to destroy my family and he was

2818
02:46:53,800 --> 02:46:58,160
successful at that unfortunately and after that he did everything good to

2819
02:46:58,160 --> 02:47:01,600
destroy his own family and it was successful at that too and when we heard

2820
02:47:01,600 --> 02:47:05,440
the news people are wondering what's the reaction I want to be a fly under wall

2821
02:47:05,440 --> 02:47:09,480
I'm like I was in tears because I read the statement from my sister and you

2822
02:47:09,480 --> 02:47:12,720
know it's like even I don't talk to her I don't take anyone and I don't you know

2823
02:47:12,720 --> 02:47:15,360
I understand where people come from I understand what people do what they do

2824
02:47:15,360 --> 02:47:21,960
and it's unfortunate but I understand and I still have memory in my body of my

2825
02:47:21,960 --> 02:47:25,960
sister you know it's my youngest sister we were very close and when I read the

2826
02:47:25,960 --> 02:47:31,920
statement I felt pain and it was very very painful to read and to find out what

2827
02:47:31,920 --> 02:47:36,040
was happening I want her in the past that he's a liar and he lies and you know

2828
02:47:36,040 --> 02:47:40,520
it's okay I don't expect her to choose her brother over her husband and I

2829
02:47:40,520 --> 02:47:45,640
understand that you know she had to stay and do what she needed to do but at this

2830
02:47:45,640 --> 02:47:51,720
point the lives of just you know got to a point where it literally destroyed him

2831
02:47:51,720 --> 02:47:56,800
and his family and I don't want to dive down to every million I don't think I'm

2832
02:47:56,800 --> 02:48:00,560
not that investors I just wanted some context for them you're kind of the worst

2833
02:48:00,560 --> 02:48:04,040
but that's okay what if I think you're the worst that's okay a lot of people

2834
02:48:04,040 --> 02:48:07,680
think you're the worst oh just you people love me bro you you had like a 90%

2835
02:48:07,680 --> 02:48:12,800
downvote on the trans video that doesn't mean anything it sure does what I mean

2836
02:48:12,800 --> 02:48:16,040
realities whatever I mean it means that you had a largely negative reaction on

2837
02:48:16,040 --> 02:48:20,160
the video yeah doesn't mean I'm the worst got him well being the worst is kind of

2838
02:48:20,160 --> 02:48:23,520
a abstract concept but I think really I mean that's what worse me it's a it's a

2839
02:48:23,520 --> 02:48:26,760
personal belief that I think the people who smash the dislike button thought you

2840
02:48:26,760 --> 02:48:30,920
were the worst I don't think I disagree we'll have to take a poll oh my god

2841
02:48:30,920 --> 02:48:34,760
you think I'm the worst tell me the truth you can be honest I don't think do

2842
02:48:34,760 --> 02:48:37,480
the worst to be honest you just said that what the fuck you literally just said

2843
02:48:37,480 --> 02:48:39,600
you're the I think you're I don't think well who's the worst like if we have a

2844
02:48:39,600 --> 02:48:42,580
scale of the worst like let's say Adolf Hitler's the worst do you think I'm as

2845
02:48:42,580 --> 02:48:47,080
bad as Adolf Hitler well you haven't killed people I don't think so no okay

2846
02:48:47,080 --> 02:48:50,560
you still think he's worse than Donald Trump yes you're more damaging to women

2847
02:48:50,560 --> 02:48:55,800
than on the front women that's what I don't know that's awesome yeah you are

2848
02:48:55,800 --> 02:48:58,760
you're damaging to women that's it you give you like that message is awful not

2849
02:48:58,760 --> 02:49:05,720
either I don't know it's not he pushes me to do better thank you if you can

2850
02:49:05,720 --> 02:49:11,400
believe I feel like you can't believe that I can believe it he's a great dad to our

2851
02:49:11,400 --> 02:49:16,520
son oh thank you you can believe that I I'll say so I know you could not be

2852
02:49:16,520 --> 02:49:21,240
welcome oh I thank you you come on you're leaning on to have oh my god you're

2853
02:49:21,240 --> 02:49:25,000
the worst you're just awful but that's fine that's fine I mean you're not

2854
02:49:25,000 --> 02:49:29,000
worse than Hitler but alive you're the worst like the worst living person Hitler's

2855
02:49:29,000 --> 02:49:32,540
passed away so we exclude him yeah so of people who are alive Charles Manson

2856
02:49:32,540 --> 02:49:36,680
still alive I know he said oh he is who else is alive okay don't compare yourself

2857
02:49:36,680 --> 02:49:38,560
to killers I'm talking about as a human being I haven't killed somebody okay so

2858
02:49:38,560 --> 02:49:43,440
works what about like sexual predators okay okay you're talking about people

2859
02:49:43,440 --> 02:49:46,760
who are like evil I just think you're the worst human being the same mind about

2860
02:49:46,760 --> 02:49:52,760
Weinstein okay I don't I'm a fan of Lucy K so I'm worse than him yeah you

2861
02:49:52,760 --> 02:49:57,000
don't have a problem with what he did to women what did you do oh he like jerked

2862
02:49:57,000 --> 02:49:59,320
off in front of a minister in front of the door so they couldn't escape and

2863
02:49:59,320 --> 02:50:01,880
they weren't about it

2864
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:03,700
No, I don't like my history. I like I don't know the situations

2865
02:50:03,700 --> 02:50:07,220
I'm not speaking no, no he was he would go into a room and be like hey

2866
02:50:07,220 --> 02:50:09,800
Can I jerk off in front of you and then he would just whip it out and start tricking

2867
02:50:09,800 --> 02:50:11,680
But okay, I'm not defending him. I'm not gonna try to find him

2868
02:50:11,680 --> 02:50:14,680
I'm just saying like when I was like there's the pizza here when I fucked up with people if I was like sleeping

2869
02:50:14,680 --> 02:50:16,680
I'd be like you can fuck me when I'm sleeping

2870
02:50:18,640 --> 02:50:21,900
Permission ahead of time, but I don't know the situation. So I'm not defending him. Yeah, it's fine

2871
02:50:21,900 --> 02:50:26,940
So let's talk about that that piece is taking a long time and I agree almost fucked up

2872
02:50:26,940 --> 02:50:31,980
Oh, that's Dan. I want I want to talk to you about Dan because you all them too. Okay, they're the worst

2873
02:50:31,980 --> 02:50:35,760
Ethan you're fine. Actually, your people are even worse than you because when you ask them to rate me

2874
02:50:36,360 --> 02:50:40,500
First of all that alone is why you're harmful to women asking like guys to rate me, right?

2875
02:50:40,500 --> 02:50:45,360
Like cuz if I was just a completely disgusting human being if I was actually an unattractive like not a good-looking person

2876
02:50:45,360 --> 02:50:47,460
You would never ask that to them. You wouldn't be like rate this ugly bitch

2877
02:50:48,900 --> 02:50:53,400
You would ask someone to rate I would I don't I don't see your point that you would have rate someone that you thought well

2878
02:50:53,400 --> 02:50:56,120
I'm just saying I'm saying you're saying he lied that he's more attracted to you than no

2879
02:50:56,120 --> 02:50:59,920
No, I'm not saying that I'm just saying like don't be a fucking pussy if you're gonna rate me which in the other people like

2880
02:50:59,920 --> 02:51:02,160
No, no, we're not gonna like whatever you were pushing him to do it

2881
02:51:02,160 --> 02:51:05,740
That's why I'm saying like he wouldn't the other guys like no, we can't exact any and says they never rated you

2882
02:51:05,740 --> 02:51:08,520
But Dan gave you a three I believe yeah, that's I'm saying the other two never dead

2883
02:51:08,520 --> 02:51:11,440
But you were like pushing you're like right now a lot and it's like you shouldn't do that to women

2884
02:51:11,440 --> 02:51:15,480
That's my point of all this fair enough, but I do think okay, you're you're right. I shouldn't I shouldn't have done that

2885
02:51:18,200 --> 02:51:23,400
And you look at how the fuck did I watch this? Okay, don't don't link anything. I'll stop. Okay. That was not worth watching

2886
02:51:24,280 --> 02:51:29,320
Kids and everyone involved. So it's like a very and from her statement alone because again

2887
02:51:29,320 --> 02:51:31,240
I don't know anything just from the statement

2888
02:51:31,240 --> 02:51:34,920
It just sounds like the lies were he was lying to her over a period of time and trying to I

2889
02:51:35,440 --> 02:51:39,720
Don't even know what it was trying to do because obviously it's not a sustainable situation. So obviously

2890
02:51:41,040 --> 02:51:43,040
Something was about to happen and

2891
02:51:44,120 --> 02:51:48,920
Instead of doing the right thing you did it the wrong way all the way and get to a point where

2892
02:51:49,760 --> 02:51:56,520
All of it was just out online for everyone to see and and it's painful to see all those videos and all because none of us

2893
02:51:56,520 --> 02:52:01,360
Were watching and but when you see all those videos and seeing my sister being humiliated like that by him

2894
02:52:02,000 --> 02:52:04,000
on the show for months on months

2895
02:52:05,520 --> 02:52:07,120
It's very

2896
02:52:07,120 --> 02:52:11,280
It's very dark very dark to see those things is very dark to think that somebody was going through that and

2897
02:52:13,080 --> 02:52:15,440
Yeah, I mean that's that's one part of it

2898
02:52:15,440 --> 02:52:18,000
But for us we know that darkness because we've been in it

2899
02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:22,960
I mean the amount of lies that exists out there online about me that all come from one source

2900
02:52:22,960 --> 02:52:28,160
It's quite unbelievable like if you really think about it, you know from all the people I know in my life people I worked with people that

2901
02:52:29,200 --> 02:52:31,200
There's nothing but you know like

2902
02:52:31,200 --> 02:52:35,560
You know, we're hard working we do what we do and we stay in our lane and we're not like people that

2903
02:52:35,880 --> 02:52:41,560
But there's just there was always this one source that just kept spewing out lies and there was unfortunately an audience

2904
02:52:41,560 --> 02:52:46,280
that would just take it and run with it and use it as ammunition to make our lives miserable and

2905
02:52:46,640 --> 02:52:50,080
Even now they still keep doing it when I don't know

2906
02:52:50,080 --> 02:52:54,840
I know what to wake up call people need to have to understand that somebody's a liar and they lied to them and

2907
02:52:56,400 --> 02:53:02,440
And simple things that are easy to prove and that's I think nobody ever takes enough time to research or check or anything and

2908
02:53:03,760 --> 02:53:05,760
Obviously with their politics, you know

2909
02:53:06,240 --> 02:53:07,600
They got a lot of it for it

2910
02:53:07,600 --> 02:53:11,760
Oh, no rightfully so because it's it's awful the things that were said that they were taken

2911
02:53:11,920 --> 02:53:13,920
But then when they saw that we were not getting the same heat

2912
02:53:14,280 --> 02:53:18,200
Because we don't have the same beliefs were not the same people and they were trying to impose and I was like

2913
02:53:18,200 --> 02:53:20,200
No, you are and he would make straight up

2914
02:53:20,200 --> 02:53:24,840
Just give one example of a lie and say oh he was a pilot and he was in combat and he killed people and stuff like that

2915
02:53:25,160 --> 02:53:28,480
Completely made apply and something you can check. It's not something that is, you know

2916
02:53:28,920 --> 02:53:32,520
My word or his word. I never graduated from flight school and never was a pilot

2917
02:53:32,520 --> 02:53:36,040
I've never been in combat. I never heard anyone. I never shot a gun on anyone like I've never done any of those things and

2918
02:53:36,280 --> 02:53:39,080
Something that I am proud of that I never heard anyone. It's something that I'm

2919
02:53:39,720 --> 02:53:41,720
conscious about and aware about often

2920
02:53:42,360 --> 02:53:44,200
I put intention into everything I do in my life

2921
02:53:44,200 --> 02:53:48,520
So when somebody spews like lies like that and then people come at me with those lies and then you know

2922
02:53:48,520 --> 02:53:51,560
You're not you can't defend it yourself in the comments of things and you can't

2923
02:53:52,440 --> 02:53:56,840
And so you just have to take it and and we've been taking it for a long time and

2924
02:53:57,640 --> 02:54:01,960
For me, it's the only thing that I hope people get from everything that's happening now is to understand wake up and see

2925
02:54:02,520 --> 02:54:04,520
Who's been lying to you? What are the lies?

2926
02:54:05,400 --> 02:54:10,360
Check first out like go and see what you know from the things you've heard about people because I'm one of many many people

2927
02:54:10,440 --> 02:54:13,320
We are with many many people that have been hurt and harassed

2928
02:54:14,200 --> 02:54:18,360
By this whole I don't know what to call it, you know organization of harassment

2929
02:54:18,360 --> 02:54:22,920
I mean like to me that's the idea of all of that starts over there and and it just like

2930
02:54:24,040 --> 02:54:27,080
Every week there'll be a different target and everyone will just rush to harass those people

2931
02:54:27,720 --> 02:54:32,120
For whatever reason sometimes political sometimes personal sometimes just for fun like it just but that

2932
02:54:33,160 --> 02:54:38,840
Whole thing is just so dark and people that participate in it and the environment and like what is it for like what are we doing here?

2933
02:54:38,840 --> 02:54:41,640
It's not entertainment. It's not joy. It's really the

2934
02:54:43,560 --> 02:54:47,480
People that want to feel good by hurting other people and want to feel good to feel that they have power and want to feel good

2935
02:54:47,480 --> 02:54:49,800
That they can do that they can get to people do stuff to them

2936
02:54:50,120 --> 02:54:52,840
I think that's why when we stopped when we went no contact

2937
02:54:52,840 --> 02:54:55,640
It was like a trigger because they didn't get what they wanted and it was hard for them

2938
02:54:55,800 --> 02:55:00,040
It's hard for people of that nature to be ignored and not get the response they wanted

2939
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:02,700
want and feel that they're doing something to you.

2940
02:55:02,700 --> 02:55:07,000
And so anyway, there's a lot to say about this.

2941
02:55:07,000 --> 02:55:10,560
But for us, my family, I don't talk about them.

2942
02:55:10,560 --> 02:55:12,080
Ita, you're not part of my family anymore.

2943
02:55:12,080 --> 02:55:14,760
And you're just-- this is your own doing.

2944
02:55:14,760 --> 02:55:17,680
We just said quietly and waited until you finish

2945
02:55:17,680 --> 02:55:18,320
doing what you're doing.

2946
02:55:18,320 --> 02:55:20,600
Because we obviously knew it was not good or positive.

2947
02:55:20,600 --> 02:55:22,780
And I think a big thing to know is he then blames everybody

2948
02:55:22,780 --> 02:55:23,480
for his everything.

2949
02:55:23,480 --> 02:55:23,960
We got blamed.

2950
02:55:23,960 --> 02:55:25,040
And he blames everyone for anything.

2951
02:55:25,040 --> 02:55:25,880
If it's us, it's us on.

2952
02:55:25,880 --> 02:55:28,240
It's whoever's like, oh, I'm blaming Trisha's fans for this.

2953
02:55:28,240 --> 02:55:29,400
I mean, he blames everybody.

2954
02:55:29,400 --> 02:55:30,840
End of front of me is he says, it's because of Moses.

2955
02:55:30,840 --> 02:55:32,160
Oh, Moses doesn't have to his family.

2956
02:55:32,160 --> 02:55:33,680
Because there's a blame for everything, right?

2957
02:55:33,680 --> 02:55:35,520
And I think the biggest thing to take away,

2958
02:55:35,520 --> 02:55:38,080
especially now, we can see Ethan's self-destruction

2959
02:55:38,080 --> 02:55:38,840
is because of Ethan.

2960
02:55:38,840 --> 02:55:40,160
And it's always Ethan.

2961
02:55:40,160 --> 02:55:41,040
So I'll say what I know.

2962
02:55:41,040 --> 02:55:42,760
The end of front of me is obviously Ethan ending it.

2963
02:55:42,760 --> 02:55:43,720
Ethan, we did that final front of me.

2964
02:55:43,720 --> 02:55:44,560
We made up everything was fine.

2965
02:55:44,560 --> 02:55:45,960
But he continued to lie about me, everything.

2966
02:55:45,960 --> 02:55:46,560
Like, everything.

2967
02:55:46,560 --> 02:55:47,760
He lied to the crew and said, I want to finally--

2968
02:55:47,760 --> 02:55:49,040
everything is Ethan's self-destruction.

2969
02:55:49,040 --> 02:55:49,640
This right here.

2970
02:55:49,640 --> 02:55:50,760
My first thought, when I heard this,

2971
02:55:50,760 --> 02:55:52,600
is he's probably going to find a way to eat all this family

2972
02:55:52,600 --> 02:55:53,100
all the time.

2973
02:55:53,100 --> 02:55:57,840
It's because Tricia and Moses are pro-Palestine, that's why we're getting hate, because they don't support Israel.

2974
02:55:57,840 --> 02:55:58,840
Everything was our fault.

2975
02:55:58,840 --> 02:56:02,040
CPS, one of my family members calls me and says, you guys need to end this.

2976
02:56:02,040 --> 02:56:02,680
Your fans are calling.

2977
02:56:02,680 --> 02:56:04,080
See, we haven't talked about them in five years.

2978
02:56:04,080 --> 02:56:06,600
So when this came out, my first thought was like, and that's crazy.

2979
02:56:06,600 --> 02:56:09,640
It sounds like, oh, I'm sure there's a way Ethan's going to blame us for him cheating or something.

2980
02:56:09,640 --> 02:56:12,680
Oh, but everything that Ethan has done in Detroit is because of Ethan.

2981
02:56:12,680 --> 02:56:13,240
It's all Ethan.

2982
02:56:13,240 --> 02:56:16,520
Everything starts and ends with Ethan's lies and self-destruction.

2983
02:56:16,520 --> 02:56:17,680
I've never seen anything like it.

2984
02:56:17,680 --> 02:56:18,920
And the enablers and everyone around him.

2985
02:56:18,920 --> 02:56:20,920
And I guess the one good thing is the enabling's done.

2986
02:56:20,920 --> 02:56:22,520
I guess he doesn't have a sister anymore to be--

2987
02:56:22,520 --> 02:56:24,600
You're sister, I'm sorry, his wife anymore, he let's be blind to it all.

2988
02:56:24,600 --> 02:56:25,100
And I get it.

2989
02:56:25,100 --> 02:56:27,440
Like you said, she's not online, she's going to believe Ethan, sure, I guess.

2990
02:56:27,440 --> 02:56:29,320
The crew was always enabling him.

2991
02:56:29,320 --> 02:56:30,920
And I hope they've seen the lie, of course.

2992
02:56:30,920 --> 02:56:31,920
They all seem to be turning around.

2993
02:56:31,920 --> 02:56:33,200
I think at some point, the thing is lifted.

2994
02:56:33,200 --> 02:56:35,040
So it's like, at the end of the day, and I hope Ethan himself--

2995
02:56:35,040 --> 02:56:38,560
I mean, we were saying, at the very least, maybe there's some rock bottom where you grow from.

2996
02:56:38,560 --> 02:56:40,320
And you can be like, damn, I really am.

2997
02:56:40,320 --> 02:56:42,220
I think that last episode of front of me, he was like, damn, I really--

2998
02:56:42,220 --> 02:56:43,200
Yeah, I did live.

2999
02:56:43,200 --> 02:56:44,600
I never would have told the crew, like, all of this.

3000
02:56:44,600 --> 02:56:45,600
And that's such a minuscule thing.

3001
02:56:45,600 --> 02:56:55,760
I'm only saying that in comparison to also this is the downfall of everything, the podcast, their business, his mirror, I mean, it's Ethan, it's all Ethan, just say whatever you want about any other speculation, but it's like it's all his choices that he's made.

3002
02:56:55,760 --> 02:56:56,760
What's she doing?

3003
02:56:56,760 --> 02:56:57,600
What's she doing?

3004
02:56:57,600 --> 02:56:59,960
When the frenemies ended, I had no part in it.

3005
02:56:59,960 --> 02:57:02,960
I never told you what to do, I never told them what to do, and there's no part of it.

3006
02:57:02,960 --> 02:57:04,360
I mean, Hila, we're not part of that.

3007
02:57:04,360 --> 02:57:12,560
And then he lied to Hila, and I was trying to tell Hila, you know, like, we shot the last episode of frenemies, and he admitted over there that it was his fault, and that he admitted to that.

3008
02:57:12,560 --> 02:57:13,240
And we apologized.

3009
02:57:13,240 --> 02:57:15,240
And we were now going to be in good terms and move on from this.

3010
02:57:15,240 --> 02:57:16,520
Like, we were happy that day.

3011
02:57:16,520 --> 02:57:30,160
And then when he realized what the backlash would be that he will get, when people find out that he lied about that, he decided not to release the last episode, and the truth never came out, but to mask the lie, you have to come up with other lies, and who's the one person that's not talking and defending themselves, that was me.

3012
02:57:30,160 --> 02:57:31,480
So it was like, no, it's Moses' fault.

3013
02:57:31,480 --> 02:57:32,680
Like, we're more upset with him than with her.

3014
02:57:32,680 --> 02:57:34,760
And I was just like, what are you guys even talking about?

3015
02:57:34,760 --> 02:57:36,160
Like, I have no relationship with you.

3016
02:57:36,160 --> 02:57:36,880
I've done nothing.

3017
02:57:36,880 --> 02:57:38,320
I have nothing to do with frenemies.

3018
02:57:38,320 --> 02:57:39,720
I have nothing to do with any of your arguments.

3019
02:57:39,720 --> 02:57:41,560
I never told anyone what to do or how to go about it.

3020
02:57:41,560 --> 02:57:45,160
Everyone chose their way of going about it and then to be blamed for it.

3021
02:57:45,160 --> 02:57:48,360
And even now, you know, people will keep repeating that.

3022
02:57:48,360 --> 02:57:50,560
You know, when people talk about frenemies, they're like, no, between Helene Moses.

3023
02:57:50,560 --> 02:57:51,280
It's a much deeper thing.

3024
02:57:51,280 --> 02:57:51,800
It's not.

3025
02:57:51,800 --> 02:57:52,800
It's really not.

3026
02:57:52,800 --> 02:57:55,080
He looked like your last friend who was over, he tried to blame her, like, blame her too.

3027
02:57:55,080 --> 02:57:55,880
And it's like, no, she didn't care.

3028
02:57:55,880 --> 02:57:56,760
No, no, no, no, no, no.

3029
02:57:56,760 --> 02:58:01,160
He would put out their lies about, like, me trying to upset my family and the relationship I have with my family.

3030
02:58:01,160 --> 02:58:04,760
He created a whole persona that his friend believed in to, and he just kept stacking into it.

3031
02:58:04,760 --> 02:58:05,560
You know, he's a creep.

3032
02:58:05,560 --> 02:58:05,960
He's awful.

3033
02:58:05,960 --> 02:58:07,080
He hates his family, hates his mom.

3034
02:58:07,080 --> 02:58:07,960
He hates his sister.

3035
02:58:07,960 --> 02:58:12,840
He's the end of frenemies, he's like, all of those things were not even one of them is true, none of them.

3036
02:58:12,840 --> 02:58:15,960
And then, you know, as those things were happening with frenemies,

3037
02:58:15,960 --> 02:58:18,680
I found out that he was talking badly about me to my family for a while.

3038
02:58:18,680 --> 02:58:23,480
So it was hard to even correct that, you know, when somebody hears stories and stories and stories,

3039
02:58:23,480 --> 02:58:26,680
it's hard to go back in there and correct all of those and be defensive, right?

3040
02:58:26,680 --> 02:58:29,320
Then you come up as defensive that you're and you're in the wrong.

3041
02:58:29,320 --> 02:58:31,480
And that's why there was damage done that I couldn't repair.

3042
02:58:31,480 --> 02:58:33,960
And I was just like, okay, I'm just going to step away until you guys see the truth.

3043
02:58:33,960 --> 02:58:35,720
Because I'm not going to be fighting here for the truth.

3044
02:58:35,720 --> 02:58:36,200
The truth.

3045
02:58:36,200 --> 02:58:38,600
You know, I'm your family member, if you don't believe me, you take his word for it.

3046
02:58:38,600 --> 02:58:39,480
That's for you to live with.

3047
02:58:39,480 --> 02:58:42,200
And now I hope everyone does see what the truth is.

3048
02:58:42,200 --> 02:58:43,400
Who is a liar and who is not?

3049
02:58:43,400 --> 02:58:44,040
Damn.

3050
02:58:44,040 --> 02:58:46,040
And just, I don't know, again, it's hard.

3051
02:58:46,040 --> 02:58:50,920
This is not, we don't wish it on anyone, but my choice to be in no contact will remain.

3052
02:58:50,920 --> 02:58:53,720
It's not something that's going to change now because, you know, you don't know where

3053
02:58:54,440 --> 02:58:57,400
I knew for a long time that at some point, the reality will shatter because it's just

3054
02:58:57,400 --> 02:59:00,040
the nature of human being, especially when you become famous young.

3055
02:59:00,040 --> 02:59:02,040
It really stops your development as a person.

3056
02:59:02,040 --> 02:59:05,000
And the biggest developments I had were much later in life, like, you know, when you're like 30 and stuff.

3057
02:59:05,640 --> 02:59:10,440
So I think at this point, reality has been shattered, especially for my sister.

3058
02:59:10,440 --> 02:59:12,840
But I don't know when you pick up the pieces and you build back

3059
02:59:12,840 --> 02:59:14,280
and you world and your reality to live in.

3060
02:59:14,280 --> 02:59:15,720
I don't know what that reality is yet.

3061
02:59:15,720 --> 02:59:17,240
And if I'm part of it, you know what I mean?

3062
02:59:17,240 --> 02:59:20,440
So which is going through now, I don't think she needs me or needs to hear from me on the last

3063
02:59:20,440 --> 02:59:23,000
first end that she needs at this point.

3064
02:59:23,000 --> 02:59:27,240
But, you know, for me, it's like, if people understand what happened and make a man's,

3065
02:59:28,360 --> 02:59:31,320
my door is always open because I don't take anyone and I don't have any, like,

3066
02:59:31,320 --> 02:59:34,920
I believe anyone is capable of change and anyone is capable of growth.

3067
02:59:34,920 --> 02:59:35,880
All doors always open.

3068
02:59:35,880 --> 02:59:36,680
But you have to see it.

3069
02:59:36,680 --> 02:59:39,480
You have to see that it's there and it's real because I have a family to protect

3070
02:59:39,480 --> 02:59:43,640
and we've been hurt badly and we're not taking risks with our family and with our children.

3071
02:59:43,640 --> 02:59:47,400
So, you know, my door is open, but I'm not on that side of the door.

3072
02:59:47,400 --> 02:59:48,680
You have to walk in through that door, you know.

3073
02:59:48,680 --> 02:59:49,640
Wow, deep.

3074
02:59:49,640 --> 02:59:50,440
Gonna risk it again.

3075
02:59:50,440 --> 02:59:51,240
Deep.

3076
02:59:51,240 --> 02:59:52,120
'Cause we just don't know.

3077
02:59:52,120 --> 02:59:54,360
We haven't been in no contact for so long, so we just don't know when people stand.

3078
02:59:54,360 --> 02:59:56,760
I just do know that, you know, just a month ago that we're making fun of me,

3079
02:59:56,760 --> 02:59:59,720
on their channel, all of them, together, happily so, you know.

3080
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:06,200
I know that's part that I do know, and why would it that's not entertaining that's not like why would somebody even do that?

3081
03:00:06,200 --> 03:00:09,320
Or go through the links of that that baffles me, but and that's what it is

3082
03:00:09,320 --> 03:00:11,800
It's hurtful. It's not even like attacking anything that we're doing. It's like you cooking and then just making fun

3083
03:00:11,800 --> 03:00:15,920
And it's a lot it's a lot. I mean the person that Ethan has become some friend

3084
03:00:15,920 --> 03:00:18,680
We I really enjoyed him when we did front of me is in this person that he's been in the past like year

3085
03:00:18,680 --> 03:00:24,080
Just awful to everybody just trying to financially ruin people and all the lawsuits and just the nastiness all this times

3086
03:00:24,080 --> 03:00:27,280
He's berated you online, you know, I think family was always like, oh, they have kids

3087
03:00:27,280 --> 03:00:31,880
It's like their kids should be together. It's like our kids will have to see all the times. He said awful awful things to you and harassment

3088
03:00:31,880 --> 03:00:34,160
And just yeah everything it is on the vanities forever online

3089
03:00:34,160 --> 03:00:37,200
And that's something that one day our kids will watch and see and just and but even all this now

3090
03:00:37,200 --> 03:00:38,920
I never I think both of us or else, you know

3091
03:00:38,920 --> 03:00:43,760
We both talked about never thought this would happen. Obviously people have seen 20 years of him and he's a great relationship

3092
03:00:43,760 --> 03:00:45,760
So it's like

3093
03:00:45,760 --> 03:00:48,440
Fuck I was just gonna ask something and I just ran away for me

3094
03:00:50,360 --> 03:00:56,080
Never mind wait, fuck what did you say I mean and that's something that one day awful awful things to you and harassment and just yeah

3095
03:00:56,080 --> 03:01:01,000
Everything it is online forever online and that's something that one day our kids will watch and see and just and but even all this now

3096
03:01:01,000 --> 03:01:05,600
I never I think do you think any of the are any of the lawsuits still live or they at least all concluded now

3097
03:01:05,600 --> 03:01:08,240
That'd be crazy if some are still going on. They'll be so much to manage

3098
03:01:12,240 --> 03:01:16,240
Both of us or else, you know, we both talked about never thought this would happen

3099
03:01:16,240 --> 03:01:18,600
Obviously people have seen 20 years of him and he like having a great relationship

3100
03:01:18,600 --> 03:01:21,480
So it's like whoever this person that he's become. I don't know why I don't know what it is behind it

3101
03:01:21,480 --> 03:01:24,120
I don't know what the change is, but he's a really awful person

3102
03:01:24,120 --> 03:01:31,200
The person now is awful destroyed companies his family everyone that he would judge and that he hated and chastised he's become

3103
03:01:31,200 --> 03:01:32,400
So I don't know

3104
03:01:32,400 --> 03:01:36,680
I don't know why but he's like he is like this monster of a person and obviously needs help and maybe maybe he will

3105
03:01:36,680 --> 03:01:40,000
Maybe there's something going on, but he needs to get some help and like stay offline because it's I mean

3106
03:01:40,000 --> 03:01:42,920
This is this is without a doubt the most shocking thing even

3107
03:01:43,440 --> 03:01:46,880
What is this and how does this relate to what's happening? Oh, it doesn't necessarily

3108
03:01:46,880 --> 03:01:49,280
I'm just saying it's a lot to have to you like dealing with that

3109
03:01:49,280 --> 03:01:53,760
So like I imagine right now even probably just wants to not be in the public eye in any ways I shape or form

3110
03:01:53,760 --> 03:01:56,960
But any lawsuit updated or anything like that is always gonna bring more attention to things

3111
03:01:56,960 --> 03:01:58,960
It's just awkward annoying probably

3112
03:01:59,840 --> 03:02:03,800
Has done in my opinion that I witnessed online is just it's the last thing I thought he would have done

3113
03:02:03,800 --> 03:02:05,000
It's like yeah, you're really ruining everyone's lives

3114
03:02:05,000 --> 03:02:06,560
He was kind of standing by him for all of it

3115
03:02:06,560 --> 03:02:11,360
But to turn on like he let for all this the one person who was okay with you being an awful human being like

3116
03:02:11,680 --> 03:02:15,760
You have kids with you have a family of business with like to do that to her the trail to her like you're not like you're

3117
03:02:15,760 --> 03:02:20,080
You're just done. You'll have zero person. She was the last person to kind of like maybe have faith in you or be a partner

3118
03:02:20,080 --> 03:02:22,520
At least she'll do because she had so much steak involved with you

3119
03:02:22,520 --> 03:02:25,560
And now you have no one and it's like I that's not a wake-up. I don't know what it is and

3120
03:02:26,320 --> 03:02:29,120
It's awful. It's talking awful and like physically makes us sick talk about it

3121
03:02:29,120 --> 03:02:30,160
I hate talking about it in this capacity

3122
03:02:30,160 --> 03:02:32,920
I felt like I was taking control back of my power near it when I told my story in the book

3123
03:02:32,920 --> 03:02:35,000
I thought I was being really respectful and interviews about it and talking fondly about it

3124
03:02:35,000 --> 03:02:37,920
But he's really just become a monster of a person and there's the thing

3125
03:02:37,920 --> 03:02:40,800
I thought I knew what I liked or enjoyed spending time with during front of me is just completely gone

3126
03:02:40,800 --> 03:02:43,280
And it's really sad because I think a lot of people found him funny and entertaining and

3127
03:02:44,080 --> 03:02:46,080
Don't happen, but thoughts

3128
03:02:48,080 --> 03:02:51,060
I mean it is like so crazy to hear you guys talk about because you never do

3129
03:02:52,080 --> 03:02:56,560
Weirdly, I was kind of I just remember that text when you wanted to hire me for frenemies

3130
03:02:56,560 --> 03:02:58,360
And I remember the day after saying you say that it's over

3131
03:02:58,360 --> 03:03:03,040
So it was weird kind of be a part of it in a weird way back then and to be here with you now it is oddly full circle

3132
03:03:03,760 --> 03:03:05,760
I mean I've seen

3133
03:03:06,480 --> 03:03:10,720
You know we were that patient zero in a way because what happened to you ended up having to his son and ended up happening to

3134
03:03:10,880 --> 03:03:16,400
Multiple other women who are once fans of him that he turned on and wanted to financially destroy and the targeted hate

3135
03:03:16,400 --> 03:03:21,960
Everything happened to a lot of people so it's not even just you. Okay, and um, I think the fact that so many people were celebrating

3136
03:03:21,960 --> 03:03:23,960
The end is is very telling as well

3137
03:03:23,960 --> 03:03:28,000
Yeah with then and when all the lies it's like me find the crew was just me wanting Oscar and he like approved that or him

3138
03:03:28,000 --> 03:03:31,040
I was in front of me is when Dan was there and I think that's when he finally I got caught when I was like show me a text

3139
03:03:31,040 --> 03:03:34,800
I said if Dan's there, I'm not showing up and he couldn't find it and I think that's when Dan what I would assume like saw it

3140
03:03:34,800 --> 03:03:39,320
So it's just and you and you the truth like there's people who is very telling as well

3141
03:03:39,320 --> 03:03:43,320
Yeah with then and when all the lies it's like me find the crew was just me wanting Oscar and he like approved that or him

3142
03:03:43,320 --> 03:03:46,440
I was in front of me is when Dan was there and I think that's when he finally got caught when I was like show me a text

3143
03:03:46,440 --> 03:03:50,160
I said if Dan's there I'm not showing up and he couldn't find it and I think that's when Dan what I would assume like saw it

3144
03:03:50,160 --> 03:03:55,240
So it's just and you and you the truth like there's people that were there with this is about the race for the crew

3145
03:03:55,240 --> 03:03:58,320
Was supposed to get that there was text messages and being like I don't know where it's just so much

3146
03:03:58,320 --> 03:04:01,280
There's there's obviously so much more and when I go on my book tour

3147
03:04:01,280 --> 03:04:03,840
We had talked about already was already pre-decided we were gonna go to the chapters especially with like Oscar

3148
03:04:03,840 --> 03:04:07,720
And there was a whole like segment there because ultimately this is like not about us what's happening right now

3149
03:04:07,720 --> 03:04:11,520
I think it's just like you said so many people were hurt and unfortunately are celebrating because

3150
03:04:11,760 --> 03:04:15,560
They've been hurt and this is it's been like this like looming evil on the internet and it's not just a beef

3151
03:04:15,560 --> 03:04:16,560
It's not just drama

3152
03:04:16,560 --> 03:04:23,760
It's like life ruining for so many people whether it's financially reputation lies that you just can't combat like it feels like there's an end to this and

3153
03:04:25,640 --> 03:04:28,040
And yeah, I mean he wasn't deserving to do on

3154
03:04:28,640 --> 03:04:31,200
But obviously we're no contact for a reason with both of them, but

3155
03:04:32,200 --> 03:04:38,040
At least it's like at least it feels like it's over people see Ethan's true colors including Hila the one person who had his back weirdly for all this

3156
03:04:38,040 --> 03:04:40,840
So I guess thank you. Well, thank you Oscar for your insight

3157
03:04:40,840 --> 03:04:43,160
You always put it well and that is that is very well

3158
03:04:43,160 --> 03:04:44,800
Well said because I've been talking about Ethan

3159
03:04:44,800 --> 03:04:48,240
And I think I talk about it in such a different nuance and maybe with a little fear before

3160
03:04:49,080 --> 03:04:52,160
What he would say so I was kind of talk about it kind of nicely and always make sure to keep people out of it

3161
03:04:52,160 --> 03:04:56,200
Because you've always tried to throw Hila and Moses in the mix when it was just between me and Ethan and um

3162
03:04:57,160 --> 03:05:00,040
Yeah, and I don't I don't have any. Yeah, I don't think you I guess

3163
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:04,080
first tanks. Now you never want to talk about it publicly. And I just want people to do well

3164
03:05:04,080 --> 03:05:08,720
and be better and find peace. And you know, so for everyone involved, they just hope they

3165
03:05:08,720 --> 03:05:12,480
find the healing they need to find, find the peace they need to find, do the work they need to do,

3166
03:05:13,040 --> 03:05:16,480
and just look inward and stop, you know, looking at the world is like, everyone is coming for you.

3167
03:05:16,480 --> 03:05:21,680
Yeah, stop the hate stuff. For one, give it a sub in kickchat.

3168
03:05:21,680 --> 03:05:23,920
Like you love it, like obviously, like the hate that was sent your way. It's like,

3169
03:05:23,920 --> 03:05:27,280
that was hard and I cried and I cried so many times and it was awful. And because of the day,

3170
03:05:27,280 --> 03:05:30,160
you never did talk, you never talked about them badly. It was all me. And it was crazy that you

3171
03:05:30,160 --> 03:05:38,000
got thrown in there. But all right, guys, I guess that's it for now. And yeah, I don't know where

3172
03:05:38,000 --> 03:05:43,280
we go from here. But thank you guys for tuning in today. And we will see you guys in the next

3173
03:05:43,280 --> 03:05:46,560
episode, Halloween episode. Do you think Ila and Ethan, we'll get back together after this.

3174
03:05:47,440 --> 03:05:51,360
Everybody's Halloween-y really. All right. Probably not. Thanks for watching. And we'll see you guys.

3175
03:05:51,360 --> 03:05:55,360
Thank you. Bye. Well, who knows? I guess probably depends on what the status of the

3176
03:05:55,360 --> 03:05:58,160
relationship was before the cheating thing. Because it was already kind of like on the rocks and

3177
03:05:58,160 --> 03:06:20,560
everything. Maybe not. That's probably the only way back for Ethan though. So, Jesus.

3178
03:06:22,720 --> 03:06:28,560
Two million Arabs voted in today's election in Israel, very strange apartheid. Same heinous

3179
03:06:28,560 --> 03:06:32,800
denialist energy as it's not a genocide because there are still living Palestinians.

3180
03:06:36,560 --> 03:06:40,400
Oh, Caroline doesn't know the difference. She doesn't know that there are Palestinians that

3181
03:06:40,400 --> 03:06:43,440
live in Israel proper and that there are other Palestinians that live in Gaza in the West Bank,

3182
03:06:43,440 --> 03:06:46,480
by the way. She absolutely doesn't know that. That's why Caroline's responded to those

3183
03:06:48,560 --> 03:06:55,520
like that, but that's okay.

3184
03:07:05,200 --> 03:07:09,120
I don't know if we'll get to that today. Some Hassan Slappa a little bit.

3185
03:07:15,360 --> 03:07:20,320
Man, these guys are. Is there going to be one of those things we have to wait for all the

3186
03:07:20,320 --> 03:07:25,200
mail-in ballots to come in to actually know where everything stands if they'll have to call another

3187
03:07:25,200 --> 03:07:34,640
election or not? Or did anybody actually come out and talk? Some affiliated with the Netanyahu

3188
03:07:34,640 --> 03:07:47,440
some not. Here is the, give me a quick second here. Give me a quick second.

3189
03:07:54,160 --> 03:08:05,280
Thank you, Luminator for the five gifted subs. Oh, man. Now the only two Ashkenazi at the Jaffa

3190
03:08:05,280 --> 03:08:10,080
polling station look at each other from across the voting booths.

3191
03:08:25,120 --> 03:08:33,120
It's gone here. Traversity surrounding it is that traversity surrounding it is that

3192
03:08:33,680 --> 03:08:42,000
at most it's a paperwork violation. That's all this is. I don't believe the accusations

3193
03:08:42,720 --> 03:08:47,760
of the government, even if it was real, even if the activations were real, although I don't believe

3194
03:08:47,760 --> 03:08:56,640
they are. At best, it's it's an additional form of paperwork that you would have to file and

3195
03:08:56,640 --> 03:09:00,720
and you try reaching out to Ethan, please? I mean, he can always reach out to me, but like

3196
03:09:02,560 --> 03:09:07,120
listen, you know, Yahweh, bless, bless up to Ethan. But I mean, the guy did spend the only

3197
03:09:07,120 --> 03:09:12,000
interaction we had calling me a pedophile for 30 minutes. So I mean, in the dumb fucking video

3198
03:09:12,000 --> 03:09:19,680
that you got minefucked at the making zone. You know, what do you want me to say? This stuff

3199
03:09:19,680 --> 03:09:30,160
right here is so unbelievably fucking toxic to the like democratic movement. One of the things

3200
03:09:30,160 --> 03:09:36,400
that we get hit the worst on is immigration that where voters are just not at all. They just voters

3201
03:09:36,400 --> 03:09:40,960
just want to see more done with regards to immigration. We finally might have like enough

3202
03:09:40,960 --> 03:09:46,560
abolish ICE people like that we could actually make a big move on doing some kind of big immigration

3203
03:09:46,560 --> 03:09:51,680
stuff reform and change and everything. But like, when you have people out here like this guy saying

3204
03:09:51,680 --> 03:09:57,040
things like, Oh, if you're an illegal immigrant, that's just a paperwork violation. This is what

3205
03:09:57,040 --> 03:10:00,000
makes people think oh shit democrats when they say about

3206
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:03,360
ice, they mean that they just want no border enforcement. That's what makes

3207
03:10:03,360 --> 03:10:06,380
people think that. And that, unironically, might actually be Hassan's

3208
03:10:06,380 --> 03:10:10,340
position. That's not where the median voter is. That's not where the average

3209
03:10:10,340 --> 03:10:11,380
voter is in the United States.

3210
03:10:13,780 --> 03:10:17,340
Fix the fix the entire process altogether.

3211
03:10:18,220 --> 03:10:22,080
That's the same Hassan Piker who routinely dresses up like a Chinese

3212
03:10:22,080 --> 03:10:25,780
dictator and talks about his hatred for America.

3213
03:10:26,480 --> 03:10:31,040
I'm an American citizen. I talk about how we went up to Minnesota to do some

3214
03:10:31,040 --> 03:10:33,080
event. And there's a lot of drama because there are a lot of people there

3215
03:10:33,080 --> 03:10:34,360
that didn't want him to go up and do the event.

3216
03:10:35,080 --> 03:10:38,280
Are you sure that I am with this country? Even say, God, I hate this country

3217
03:10:38,280 --> 03:10:40,080
sometimes. Oh my God.

3218
03:10:40,080 --> 03:10:44,360
It's the same Hassan Piker who joined Ilhan Omar on the campaign trail

3219
03:10:44,360 --> 03:10:49,880
tonight. He's supportive of Trump and everything that he's doing to the people

3220
03:10:49,880 --> 03:10:55,480
in Michigan. And they spent like maybe five seconds on that. Yeah. Um,

3221
03:10:55,520 --> 03:11:00,160
and like hundreds and hundreds of hours talking about the fact that

3222
03:11:05,160 --> 03:11:11,280
Oh, there he is. There he is. There he is. There it is. Donnie O'Sullivan. Donnie O'Sullivan.

3223
03:11:11,280 --> 03:11:13,000
We're just a crowd. Yeah.

3224
03:11:13,000 --> 03:11:16,760
This guy. Okay. You want me to hold up or you want me to put it right here?

3225
03:11:16,760 --> 03:11:20,080
Yeah, put it there. Just more expert at me than you. All right.

3226
03:11:20,360 --> 03:11:24,080
And we're streaming on yours too, huh? Yeah, yeah. Are you live streaming this?

3227
03:11:24,120 --> 03:11:27,720
Uh, no, but we'll be checking it back. So probably, okay. All right.

3228
03:11:27,720 --> 03:11:33,880
All right. Oh, that's a tough one to answer. I've been, I want to say

3229
03:11:33,880 --> 03:11:38,840
all right. I want to say I've been all right. It's been quite

3230
03:11:38,840 --> 03:11:44,080
tumultuous, as I'm sure you've seen, but I'm very excited. Oh,

3231
03:11:44,080 --> 03:11:48,400
yes. Experience this. You're truly the only person I've ever seen Ethan

3232
03:11:48,400 --> 03:11:50,760
halt his beefing with and he never responded to your last video of him.

3233
03:11:50,760 --> 03:11:53,640
I think the info you found on his dad destroyed him and he barely

3234
03:11:53,640 --> 03:11:58,880
mentioned you again. Did I find info on his dad? I don't remember that.

3235
03:12:01,880 --> 03:12:09,000
What do we have on his? What was he? What was that? What was it?

3236
03:12:10,840 --> 03:12:14,280
His dad fucked his mom when he was 16, when she was 16 or something. Oh,

3237
03:12:14,280 --> 03:12:20,120
well, maybe. I mean, it like, I mean, it was a really, really, really,

3238
03:12:20,120 --> 03:12:25,080
really stupid thing to come at me for. Yeah, I don't know what to say.

3239
03:12:25,080 --> 03:12:28,160
I just can't believe he got mindfucked so hard by the fucking Hassan

3240
03:12:28,160 --> 03:12:33,440
losers that people get so nervous. And it's, you know, and it's really

3241
03:12:33,440 --> 03:12:37,160
like, man, fuck Libs, you know, fuck the Libs, dude, because Libs have no

3242
03:12:37,160 --> 03:12:41,320
unity. Meanwhile, these guys are 100% in lockstep coordination with

3243
03:12:41,320 --> 03:12:43,960
everything they do. So every time you get like Hassan and all these

3244
03:12:43,960 --> 03:12:46,280
fucking weirdos saying things like, yo, these guys are all part of the

3245
03:12:46,280 --> 03:12:48,880
same network of people slandering me and blah, blah, blah, blah,

3246
03:12:48,880 --> 03:12:52,120
like everybody, everybody is so desperate to prove that they're not

3247
03:12:53,200 --> 03:12:56,160
because we aren't because I don't like message like anybody. I don't

3248
03:12:56,160 --> 03:12:59,000
ever tell anybody like, oh, you have one of my favorite moments

3249
03:12:59,000 --> 03:13:03,880
with snark or drama. Oh my God, doesn't be a link to the stream.

3250
03:13:04,120 --> 03:13:06,640
Do you remember when chud logic was screaming at me? And he's like, I

3251
03:13:06,640 --> 03:13:09,480
remember this destiny. I remember when we were back when I was in

3252
03:13:09,480 --> 03:13:12,080
your orbit, I remember when you used to tell me all the time,

3253
03:13:12,080 --> 03:13:14,360
like how I had to cover stories and the things that I do. And it's

3254
03:13:14,360 --> 03:13:17,880
like, he got chud logic got so mindfucked by other people that I

3255
03:13:17,880 --> 03:13:21,360
think he might have even believed this. And that apparently I'm

3256
03:13:21,360 --> 03:13:23,160
telling him how to cover several times. And I asked was like, what

3257
03:13:23,160 --> 03:13:25,880
can you think of a single thing I've ever done? Why does a single

3258
03:13:25,880 --> 03:13:28,600
story I've ever told you to cover differently because of me? And

3259
03:13:28,600 --> 03:13:30,840
he couldn't think of a single example, because I've never done

3260
03:13:30,840 --> 03:13:34,800
my entire life. I've never done this before. But it's yeah, I

3261
03:13:34,800 --> 03:13:36,480
think when you hear that accusation over and over again,

3262
03:13:36,480 --> 03:13:39,480
especially because it's not true. I think Ethan just saw what

3263
03:13:39,480 --> 03:13:41,840
he thought was an easy opening to debunk it. It's like, Oh, well,

3264
03:13:41,840 --> 03:13:43,400
me and Dustin definitely don't work together. I call it a

3265
03:13:43,400 --> 03:13:46,640
pedophile. And so that was his like, I'll just do this. And then

3266
03:13:46,640 --> 03:13:48,320
that way, people will see me. But it doesn't matter. Because

3267
03:13:48,320 --> 03:13:51,440
even today, right, people still say that me and Ethan were

3268
03:13:51,440 --> 03:13:53,600
fully like a sunset it all the way up through the divorce that

3269
03:13:53,600 --> 03:13:55,320
mean Ethan are fully aligned and everything we communicate all

3270
03:13:55,320 --> 03:13:55,920
the time. And

3271
03:13:57,880 --> 03:14:00,120
okay, from YouTube, thank you for the $100 to talk about his

3272
03:14:00,120 --> 03:14:01,240
hand movements from this guy.

3273
03:14:02,480 --> 03:14:08,480
You felt like I was on spaceship. And I'm not sure what to do

3274
03:14:08,480 --> 03:14:11,040
with my hands. Be good just holding down by your side. Yeah,

3275
03:14:11,080 --> 03:14:16,400
great. We were real happy with them with what was going on. And

3276
03:14:16,760 --> 03:14:20,560
at the end of the day, um, you know, you got to be happy.

3277
03:14:20,640 --> 03:14:22,520
Whatever the hell is the name is, let's get him over here.

3278
03:14:22,880 --> 03:14:24,000
Everything ended up fine.

3279
03:14:26,400 --> 03:14:28,360
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Everything was fine. Thanks. Thanks. Great

3280
03:14:28,360 --> 03:14:31,200
job. Good job in the car. Ricky Bobby, a force to be reckoned

3281
03:14:31,200 --> 03:14:34,000
with possibly in the near future. Ricky, you

3282
03:14:35,920 --> 03:14:37,120
the child logic clip.

3283
03:14:42,600 --> 03:14:44,680
Just back it up for the soy rant before.

3284
03:14:46,800 --> 03:14:48,480
Does it matter in a single time? I've ever

3285
03:14:51,760 --> 03:14:53,520
because he was worried this would be taken out of context,

3286
03:14:53,520 --> 03:14:56,800
which is exactly what's happened. Yep. I mean, there's no

3287
03:14:56,800 --> 03:14:59,520
you guys. Yeah, this is exactly what I thought. You guys are

3288
03:14:59,520 --> 03:14:59,920
totally misread.

3289
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:04,900
That's to make the same way. What's gotcha and to be there? We're misrepresenting this because we said it's a dawking tool and you've

3290
03:15:08,480 --> 03:15:11,100
Tell you that this was a League of Legends account look up who was that person by the way

3291
03:15:11,100 --> 03:15:14,020
Sure, I'm just curious. Do you think that the person that told you that was trustworthy or is that a person you're not going to trust me?

3292
03:15:14,020 --> 03:15:16,500
Okay, so okay, it's just because someone's testing me, but

3293
03:15:17,860 --> 03:15:23,420
There was a substance who yeah, yeah, I'll touch it. Okay. All right. There you go one. Keep wait was it just a goal?

3294
03:15:23,420 --> 03:15:25,420
Was it substance who?

3295
03:15:25,420 --> 03:15:29,600
It was a mistake. It was a mistake. They didn't like there was a misunderstanding. Okay

3296
03:15:29,600 --> 03:15:33,780
Are you all trying to rail on this? You're so slimy you're trying to rail on this

3297
03:15:37,220 --> 03:15:41,660
It doesn't matter it's irrelevant. I'm not gonna say I've been in a conversation and you fucking messes me back in the day

3298
03:15:41,660 --> 03:15:45,420
You fucking wretch the fucking puppy full of your narratives so that I'd go out and be a good little dgg robot fuck

3299
03:15:47,780 --> 03:15:53,560
I'm not a fucking tell you it is a single time. I've ever done that entire life. Yes, I can when I can't remember exactly

3300
03:15:59,600 --> 03:16:02,600
The question okay, because my god that is so embarrassing

3301
03:16:05,540 --> 03:16:07,860
During the fucking Max drama during the Mr. Gil drama

3302
03:16:09,380 --> 03:16:12,460
That's the only person I remember you like that to do extensively. Oh fuck off you give me a break

3303
03:16:12,460 --> 03:16:16,060
You're trying to take it off to that you defend me and that years ago and now you're desperate trying to bring it up

3304
03:16:16,060 --> 03:16:19,040
It's like a little trick not fucking you make an application that I'm pumping you full of these you know

3305
03:16:19,040 --> 03:16:23,260
I don't know if I got even reducter logs. We just don't look it up. I don't have I done this you have absolutely messes me

3306
03:16:23,260 --> 03:16:27,540
You have absolutely messes me to feed me so if you give yourself what you never does my thought but yeah

3307
03:16:27,540 --> 03:16:31,940
I don't know these people all get mine fucked on this and so they want to prove like how independent they are and then done whatever

3308
03:16:39,700 --> 03:16:41,900
Nice we have no volume okay, that's good. All right

3309
03:16:53,780 --> 03:16:58,840
So he's being quite descriptive about exactly what I am

3310
03:16:59,580 --> 03:17:04,980
exactly what I do I think it's fascinating that I've become this

3311
03:17:06,300 --> 03:17:10,140
Somewhat pivotal figure in the eyes of the media when in fact

3312
03:17:10,660 --> 03:17:12,660
polling data shows that

3313
03:17:13,420 --> 03:17:18,420
In spite of the barrage of attack ads that republicans pumped in every television market

3314
03:17:18,860 --> 03:17:20,860
Including in states that I've never even been to

3315
03:17:21,260 --> 03:17:26,980
The overwhelming majority of american's responses. I don't care so it's gonna have a strange experience

3316
03:17:27,580 --> 03:17:32,100
Obviously you know it increases the death threats. It frustrates me. Nobody likes to be misunderstood

3317
03:17:32,100 --> 03:17:39,340
But alone professionally misunderstood. However, I would say that I fell on a sword here a little bit and became the primary driver of

3318
03:17:40,340 --> 03:17:46,100
And I think their hyper focus on me as a failure ultimately and in some respects allowed Democrats to be able to position themselves in center

3319
03:17:46,100 --> 03:17:48,100
Their campaigns are on their policies

3320
03:17:49,820 --> 03:17:56,380
Which you're at this event in us. I'm getting a lot of crap from fellow democrats here in Minnesota

3321
03:18:02,700 --> 03:18:11,780
Yeah, it's frustrating. I'm a lifelong democrat. Oh my god. Oh my god

3322
03:18:12,700 --> 03:18:17,900
It's frustrating. I'm a lifelong democrat. I voted for democrats our life. I'll never vote for republican

3323
03:18:17,900 --> 03:18:23,820
I have hosed republicans. I don't just oppose Trump as a my post the republican party and and all matter of conservative economics conservative social policies

3324
03:18:24,780 --> 03:18:31,740
It is still somewhat expected. I think what democrats choose to focus on this close out to an election says something about their priorities

3325
03:18:32,300 --> 03:18:37,380
The republicans have at this point given up on attacking me as much as they were initially and now the attacks that are almost

3326
03:18:37,380 --> 03:18:42,820
Exclusively coming from center right figures in the party and I think I know exactly why it's happening. I mean many of these DFL figures here

3327
03:18:43,420 --> 03:18:48,420
They were awfully quiet about Israel's genocide in Gaza. They were awfully quiet about our health ability in this process

3328
03:18:48,420 --> 03:18:50,540
Our tax dollars going there or outright in support of it

3329
03:18:50,860 --> 03:18:51,980
and yet

3330
03:18:51,980 --> 03:18:56,780
Their condimations are not reserved for the Trump administration coming after you know Mar for the severe condimations

3331
03:18:56,780 --> 03:19:01,780
Some of them had really statements about you know Mar being persecuted with this law fair from this fascist regime

3332
03:19:02,540 --> 03:19:08,140
But they they keep their strictest condimations for those who are simply a platform for the anxieties and the

3333
03:19:08,220 --> 03:19:14,100
populist rage that many Americans feel many Americans will vote for the democratic party you I guess you're you're about to

3334
03:19:14,100 --> 03:19:20,460
Become I think a big issue again in the democratic party as we go into the 2028 primaries, which really begin the day after the midterms

3335
03:19:20,460 --> 03:19:21,260
Yeah

3336
03:19:21,260 --> 03:19:23,620
And because you become this this central figure I

3337
03:19:24,740 --> 03:19:26,660
think that represents

3338
03:19:26,660 --> 03:19:33,980
Extremely anti Israeli government position that some subscribers anti-Semitic and I would you deny and democratic socialism and everything else

3339
03:19:33,980 --> 03:19:37,180
And then I guess worth this more centrist side the party of which people are trying to argue

3340
03:19:37,180 --> 03:19:41,300
This is the only way we're gonna win in 2028. We need to not be an ace in America

3341
03:19:41,820 --> 03:19:44,620
Are you prepared for that and how do you think I'm trying prepared for that?

3342
03:19:44,620 --> 03:19:46,620
So what's really interesting about this is

3343
03:19:46,620 --> 03:19:52,100
These are these are very popular positions being critical of Israel is the popular position not just in the democratic party where there's no division on

3344
03:19:52,100 --> 03:19:55,740
This issue whatsoever. It's a 90-10, but it's also Israel's very unpopular on its independence

3345
03:19:55,740 --> 03:19:59,940
And Israel's coming increasingly unpopular on some Republican voters as well. So none of this matters

3346
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:03,280
It is what he's saying is true, but it's not relevant. It might not be popular

3347
03:20:03,280 --> 03:20:06,680
But it's not an issue that voters are motivated by nobody in America

3348
03:20:06,680 --> 03:20:10,020
We just don't care about four balls of them our terms are we just don't like yeah people don't like us real

3349
03:20:10,020 --> 03:20:14,040
But that's not what motivates them to go out and vote. I don't even know if it's a top six issue now amongst voters

3350
03:20:14,720 --> 03:20:18,080
Well, this is a hot-button issue or a divisive issue in Hill

3351
03:20:18,080 --> 03:20:23,780
It's not necessarily so divisive amongst the masses and the same dose for Medicare for all our platform our program is pretty simple

3352
03:20:30,000 --> 03:20:49,940
What the fuck oh my god, I just got like the biggest like fucking

3353
03:20:50,480 --> 03:20:54,840
Cold war McCarthy tingle. I think I've ever felt in my entire life. I

3354
03:20:56,480 --> 03:21:02,160
Don't know if I've ever heard anybody utter that phrase ever in the United States on accident or anything

3355
03:21:03,200 --> 03:21:06,160
Oh, that was weird. Is that a misspeak?

3356
03:21:09,880 --> 03:21:11,980
I don't know if I the Americans

3357
03:21:18,940 --> 03:21:24,740
And I think that's a message that is very popular with the Americans and we will continue to say

3358
03:21:27,120 --> 03:21:37,520
That's a that's a crazy phrase. I don't know if I've ever my life heard somebody even misspeak that before

3359
03:21:39,600 --> 03:21:42,060
I'm a last question who's seen an ad reporting

3360
03:21:42,060 --> 03:21:47,360
I don't know how to ask you to basically back off that you were hosting and close is that correct and how do you?

3361
03:21:47,360 --> 03:21:52,900
I feel like if I was directly doing quite a bad job, right considering that I still cover this nationally very significant campaign

3362
03:21:54,000 --> 03:21:58,540
You can anyway or hurting these candidates. No, not even not even in any way shape or form

3363
03:21:58,540 --> 03:22:01,500
I think the real problem of my involvement with

3364
03:22:02,160 --> 03:22:06,320
Campaigns campaigns is that in the past and I would go out in campaign with them

3365
03:22:06,320 --> 03:22:12,040
I brought in fundraising dollars and the massive amount of real on-the- ground support or not respond bankers canvases, right?

3366
03:22:12,040 --> 03:22:14,360
And there was no trade it was just all bit of it

3367
03:22:14,360 --> 03:22:19,520
And then the video and a lot of the party bosses that never got a party tried to make this a costly trade-off instead

3368
03:22:19,800 --> 03:22:25,480
So it caused candidates the way that pros and cons and the greatest cost to a campaign that has a finite amount of time

3369
03:22:25,480 --> 03:22:32,200
To make a convincing case to as many people as possible is to be constantly jammed up with affiliations around a content creator

3370
03:22:32,200 --> 03:22:36,880
That is in no way shape or form related to the campaign itself that association was forced upon optimal

3371
03:22:36,880 --> 03:22:42,040
So people will say oh you brought him on to the campaign trail, but the reality of the matter is I'm an independent American

3372
03:22:42,160 --> 03:22:45,160
I'm like I'll say it and that is the extent of it, right?

3373
03:22:47,160 --> 03:22:52,920
I'm an independent American and I liked Abdul and that's it. What a worthless combination of words

3374
03:22:52,920 --> 03:22:57,080
I'm getting more and more triggered as I'm talking to people and I want to hear people just I say this phrase

3375
03:22:57,080 --> 03:23:01,600
I say uttering random statements like people just put like random words together and they don't really make sense at all like

3376
03:23:01,600 --> 03:23:06,000
You're a random American who what what is it? Why what do you know you clearly or not? You're an influencer, right?

3377
03:23:06,000 --> 03:23:08,920
That's the whole reason you came out like what oh god it's triggers a fuck out of me

3378
03:23:09,520 --> 03:23:15,120
It's the media like you're stressing this allegiance and effort to stop him from talking about my rogers talking about Donald Trump

3379
03:23:17,160 --> 03:23:22,120
And it just spent a great deal of time going over the context of some of these books that the media keep repeating over and over again

3380
03:23:22,120 --> 03:23:24,800
It's much easier for them to make their own case instead of defending me

3381
03:23:24,800 --> 03:23:27,440
That's not my expectation at all then it would be a company of all the Asian

3382
03:23:27,440 --> 03:23:31,940
So I think I'll say it is very low when I come to say those. Oh, do you guys need to start? Okay. Okay. Thank you

3383
03:23:31,940 --> 03:23:33,940
We can talk more after

3384
03:23:35,040 --> 03:23:37,660
All right, we're starting okay, you go back to the

3385
03:23:47,160 --> 03:23:49,160
Okay

3386
03:23:51,120 --> 03:23:53,120
So Ilhan Omar

3387
03:23:53,440 --> 03:23:55,440
Had a town hall yesterday

3388
03:23:56,800 --> 03:23:58,960
With her pal has son piker

3389
03:23:59,680 --> 03:24:01,840
and I got to say

3390
03:24:02,920 --> 03:24:06,800
What I ended up thinking after kind of absorbing this is

3391
03:24:07,880 --> 03:24:16,520
the Democrats are gonna lose the presidential election in 2028 and I say that because I think

3392
03:24:17,200 --> 03:24:26,520
Anti-Semitism is happening out loud now and I think intolerance among people on the left is happening out loud

3393
03:24:26,520 --> 03:24:29,520
It is on the right too, but on the left

3394
03:24:30,160 --> 03:24:36,760
I think they are gonna go back to the ways that ended up getting Donald Trump elected in the first place

3395
03:24:37,200 --> 03:24:43,000
because they became so intolerant and and I think the intolerance toward Jews is

3396
03:24:43,320 --> 03:24:50,040
So out in the open right now that a candidate would bring a guy like this to an event and

3397
03:24:50,680 --> 03:24:54,120
Nuzzled up to him. I just I cannot

3398
03:24:54,720 --> 03:24:59,800
Express aren't you aren't you getting a little ahead of yourself to say that they're gonna lose in 2028?

3399
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:03,540
I think a lot of it depends on what happens next week.

3400
03:25:03,540 --> 03:25:07,440
- The Democrats, I think while you're gonna lose in 2028,

3401
03:25:07,440 --> 03:25:10,720
seems like you're just ignoring the actual issue

3402
03:25:10,720 --> 03:25:13,760
ahead of us, which is what's gonna happen next Tuesday.

3403
03:25:13,760 --> 03:25:15,640
- I mean, I don't think anybody is,

3404
03:25:15,640 --> 03:25:17,300
well, I mean, that's probably not true.

3405
03:25:17,300 --> 03:25:18,760
It's pretty clear to me, the Democrats

3406
03:25:18,760 --> 03:25:20,400
are gonna slaughter the Republicans.

3407
03:25:20,400 --> 03:25:21,560
- She's a good looking woman.

3408
03:25:21,560 --> 03:25:23,800
Hassan is my internet boyfriend, you know?

3409
03:25:23,800 --> 03:25:25,360
He's popular for a reason.

3410
03:25:25,360 --> 03:25:27,240
You know, there was this big talk about

3411
03:25:27,240 --> 03:25:28,600
the left needs of Joe Rogan,

3412
03:25:28,600 --> 03:25:31,120
and Hassan Piker was sitting there waiting.

3413
03:25:31,120 --> 03:25:33,400
It turns out he's a hunk.

3414
03:25:33,400 --> 03:25:35,320
He loves being on camera.

3415
03:25:35,320 --> 03:25:38,000
And this is what showbiz is.

3416
03:25:38,000 --> 03:25:39,600
Politics is the new showbiz.

3417
03:25:39,600 --> 03:25:43,860
And these two are embracing their star status,

3418
03:25:43,860 --> 03:25:46,200
and it really rubs some people the wrong way.

3419
03:25:46,200 --> 03:25:50,000
- Well, look, they're appealing to young voters,

3420
03:25:50,000 --> 03:25:52,520
and the young voters, a lot of them,

3421
03:25:52,520 --> 03:25:54,240
are on Hassan Piker's side.

3422
03:25:54,240 --> 03:25:56,360
So it's true, they are good looking.

3423
03:25:56,360 --> 03:25:57,960
Here's also what's true.

3424
03:25:57,960 --> 03:26:01,080
That Hassan Piker said America deserves 9/11.

3425
03:26:01,080 --> 03:26:02,600
Then he later-- - They just jump off.

3426
03:26:02,600 --> 03:26:04,960
- Years later apologizes, oops.

3427
03:26:04,960 --> 03:26:07,720
I guess I didn't mean that, baloney.

3428
03:26:07,720 --> 03:26:11,040
Then he says he is not anti-Semitic.

3429
03:26:11,040 --> 03:26:13,440
Yet he talks about Jews being inbred.

3430
03:26:13,440 --> 03:26:18,440
He says, I'll vote for Hamas over Israel every single time.

3431
03:26:18,960 --> 03:26:22,840
So anybody who is a woman, who is gay,

3432
03:26:22,840 --> 03:26:25,560
and I could probably do a litany of other groups,

3433
03:26:25,560 --> 03:26:29,040
they're (beep) if you think Hamas

3434
03:26:29,040 --> 03:26:31,040
is the side you wanna be on,

3435
03:26:31,040 --> 03:26:36,040
because Hamas is a brutal, murderous, intolerant organization.

3436
03:26:36,920 --> 03:26:39,840
And yet, Hassan Piker said that.

3437
03:26:39,840 --> 03:26:42,320
- Yeah, Hassan Piker's not a guy that,

3438
03:26:42,320 --> 03:26:45,160
if you cozy up to him, you know what you're getting with it.

3439
03:26:45,160 --> 03:26:47,080
And I guess, but why is she doing that?

3440
03:26:47,080 --> 03:26:49,920
Because she's done, obviously she's done some math

3441
03:26:49,920 --> 03:26:53,400
that makes her think that the people who support him,

3442
03:26:53,400 --> 03:26:56,400
she wants them and that having more of them

3443
03:26:56,400 --> 03:26:58,360
is gonna help her win elections.

3444
03:26:58,360 --> 03:27:02,400
That's a gamble, I think, but maybe it works.

3445
03:27:02,400 --> 03:27:03,240
I wanna say something else.

3446
03:27:03,240 --> 03:27:05,400
You guys are all saying she's doing it

3447
03:27:05,400 --> 03:27:08,360
because she's trying to galvanize support in her district.

3448
03:27:08,360 --> 03:27:09,440
How about this?

3449
03:27:09,440 --> 03:27:12,760
What if Ilhan Omar believes the shit

3450
03:27:12,760 --> 03:27:14,480
that Hassan Piker is saying?

3451
03:27:14,480 --> 03:27:16,320
And nobody's talking about that.

3452
03:27:16,320 --> 03:27:20,680
You know, there are people who will cozy up to Donald Trump

3453
03:27:20,680 --> 03:27:22,280
because they wanna get more votes,

3454
03:27:22,280 --> 03:27:25,520
and people immediately say, and I think fairly,

3455
03:27:25,520 --> 03:27:27,920
well, that means they're embracing Trump's views.

3456
03:27:27,920 --> 03:27:30,880
Why can't we then assume that Ilhan Omar

3457
03:27:30,880 --> 03:27:34,080
is not just doing it to get support in her district,

3458
03:27:34,080 --> 03:27:36,600
she's doing it because she believes

3459
03:27:36,600 --> 03:27:38,600
what Hassan Piker is saying?

3460
03:27:45,120 --> 03:27:46,520
- Last meme, I think on this.

3461
03:27:46,520 --> 03:27:48,760
Is there like a recording of the event or whatever or?

3462
03:27:50,040 --> 03:27:51,560
- Influencer, Hassan Piker,

3463
03:27:51,560 --> 03:27:53,280
is appearing in Minnesota tonight?

3464
03:27:53,280 --> 03:27:54,400
- Oh, no.

3465
03:27:54,400 --> 03:27:56,480
- Far left political influencer, Hassan Piker,

3466
03:27:56,480 --> 03:27:57,840
is appearing in Minnesota tonight

3467
03:27:57,840 --> 03:27:59,400
after many days of debate over his visit.

3468
03:27:59,400 --> 03:28:01,080
- Chief political reporter, Tom Houser, joins us now

3469
03:28:01,080 --> 03:28:03,680
to tell us why this visit by Piker is so contentious, Tom.

3470
03:28:03,680 --> 03:28:05,040
- Yeah, in large part, it's because of a comment

3471
03:28:05,040 --> 03:28:06,640
he made on a podcast seven years ago

3472
03:28:06,640 --> 03:28:09,240
when he said America, quote, deserved 9/11.

3473
03:28:09,240 --> 03:28:10,920
Even though he later--

3474
03:28:10,920 --> 03:28:12,200
- TMZ didn't react this way at all

3475
03:28:12,200 --> 03:28:13,720
when Kanye was anti-Semitic and Trump had him

3476
03:28:13,720 --> 03:28:14,880
at the White House Lameo.

3477
03:28:16,240 --> 03:28:17,080
Am I wrong?

3478
03:28:17,080 --> 03:28:18,560
Am I remembering that this meant the opposite way?

3479
03:28:18,560 --> 03:28:21,240
I thought that TMZ didn't have a pretty contentious

3480
03:28:21,240 --> 03:28:23,200
interview with Kanye over that.

3481
03:28:23,200 --> 03:28:25,960
Wasn't this like, wasn't he in the TMZ place

3482
03:28:25,960 --> 03:28:27,760
screaming about leaving the plantation or something

3483
03:28:27,760 --> 03:28:28,600
and they were fighting with him?

3484
03:28:28,600 --> 03:28:31,320
Am I misremembering this?

3485
03:28:31,320 --> 03:28:33,160
Yes, they did, okay.

3486
03:28:33,160 --> 03:28:34,280
Oh, that was, yes, I remember.

3487
03:28:34,280 --> 03:28:36,160
It was the slavery was a choice thing.

3488
03:28:36,160 --> 03:28:37,160
We just came from that.

3489
03:28:43,880 --> 03:28:45,320
- Clarified that comment to say he was talking

3490
03:28:45,320 --> 03:28:46,760
about the government and not people.

3491
03:28:46,760 --> 03:28:48,480
His pro Hamas dance and other statements

3492
03:28:48,480 --> 03:28:50,760
have led many to label him as anti-Semitic.

3493
03:28:50,760 --> 03:28:52,320
His appearance here is even dividing

3494
03:28:52,320 --> 03:28:53,920
Minnesota's Democratic Party.

3495
03:28:53,920 --> 03:28:55,080
- All right, you know what's crazy?

3496
03:28:55,080 --> 03:28:55,920
- Yeah.

3497
03:28:55,920 --> 03:28:56,760
- I used to watch him in London, all the time.

3498
03:28:56,760 --> 03:28:58,400
Hassan Piker livestreamed his visit

3499
03:28:58,400 --> 03:28:59,840
to the University of Minnesota campus

3500
03:28:59,840 --> 03:29:00,680
Monday afternoon.

3501
03:29:00,680 --> 03:29:02,400
There wasn't much controversial there

3502
03:29:02,400 --> 03:29:05,080
as he mostly focused on urging students to vote,

3503
03:29:05,080 --> 03:29:06,640
even offering rides in a golf cart

3504
03:29:06,640 --> 03:29:08,000
to an on-campus polling place.

3505
03:29:08,000 --> 03:29:09,080
- Have you voted?

3506
03:29:09,080 --> 03:29:10,080
What's up, you want to vote right now?

3507
03:29:10,080 --> 03:29:11,560
You can vote early, I'll have it.

3508
03:29:11,560 --> 03:29:13,080
- But it's not his get out the vote message

3509
03:29:13,080 --> 03:29:14,040
that is controversial.

3510
03:29:14,040 --> 03:29:15,000
- This is so insane.

3511
03:29:15,000 --> 03:29:16,840
- It's this statement from 2019.

3512
03:29:16,840 --> 03:29:18,120
- America deserved 9/11, dude.

3513
03:29:18,120 --> 03:29:19,600
- See, how was any of saying controversial?

3514
03:29:19,600 --> 03:29:22,680
- It was so controversial, it has dogged him ever since.

3515
03:29:22,680 --> 03:29:25,320
He once apologized for his choice of words and says--

3516
03:29:25,320 --> 03:29:26,160
- Like I hate him.

3517
03:29:26,160 --> 03:29:27,000
I hate him.

3518
03:29:27,000 --> 03:29:28,360
God, this fucking country, bro, I hate America.

3519
03:29:28,360 --> 03:29:29,200
Motherfuckers.

3520
03:29:30,320 --> 03:29:32,640
Like, this is not even close

3521
03:29:32,640 --> 03:29:33,880
to the most controversial thing you said.

3522
03:29:33,880 --> 03:29:36,360
And like, in context, if you actually think about it,

3523
03:29:36,360 --> 03:29:38,200
it's not even really that incorrect.

3524
03:29:38,200 --> 03:29:39,600
I hate that like, this was the thing

3525
03:29:39,600 --> 03:29:41,200
that everybody fixated on so much.

3526
03:29:41,200 --> 03:29:43,560
Obviously, it makes for a sick sound bite, but.

3527
03:29:45,600 --> 03:29:47,600
- He was talking about government policies,

3528
03:29:47,600 --> 03:29:48,840
not the American people.

3529
03:29:48,840 --> 03:29:52,280
He's a heated response, an impassioned response.

3530
03:29:52,280 --> 03:29:54,440
And people will consistently use that

3531
03:29:54,440 --> 03:29:55,480
against me over and over again.

3532
03:29:55,480 --> 03:29:57,680
- Many Democrats have denounced the Minneapolis visit

3533
03:29:57,680 --> 03:29:58,960
from Congresswoman Angie Craig

3534
03:29:58,960 --> 03:30:00,120
to Senator Amy Klobuchar.

3535
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:02,520
to several DFL state senators.

3536
03:30:02,520 --> 03:30:05,180
The PICA event sold out shortly after it was advertised,

3537
03:30:05,180 --> 03:30:07,540
sponsored by DFL Senator Omar Fatay

3538
03:30:07,540 --> 03:30:10,340
with Congresswoman Ilhan Omar listed as a featured guest.

3539
03:30:10,340 --> 03:30:11,960
- Democrats wanna keep the focus on Trump,

3540
03:30:11,960 --> 03:30:13,840
but when you bring in a radical like Hassan Piker,

3541
03:30:13,840 --> 03:30:15,640
the focus then turns to the Democratic Party

3542
03:30:15,640 --> 03:30:17,040
and its far left element.

3543
03:30:17,040 --> 03:30:19,240
- Republicans have denounced Piker repeatedly.

3544
03:30:19,240 --> 03:30:22,160
- We do not need violent rhetoric, anti-American rhetoric.

3545
03:30:22,160 --> 03:30:25,300
- This is a guy who is really anti-West, anti-American,

3546
03:30:25,300 --> 03:30:26,680
anti-Israeli, anti-

3547
03:30:26,680 --> 03:30:27,520
- Hold on.

3548
03:30:27,520 --> 03:30:31,040
(crickets chirping)

3549
03:30:31,040 --> 03:30:31,880
- Am I crazy?

3550
03:30:39,880 --> 03:30:40,720
- A little bit.

3551
03:30:42,320 --> 03:30:43,800
- Semitic.

3552
03:30:43,800 --> 03:30:45,000
- We reached out to Senator Fatay

3553
03:30:45,000 --> 03:30:46,240
and Congresswoman Omar for comment

3554
03:30:46,240 --> 03:30:48,120
and did not receive a response from either one.

3555
03:30:48,120 --> 03:30:49,680
Attendees have been told not to disclose

3556
03:30:49,680 --> 03:30:50,960
the location of tonight's event.

3557
03:30:50,960 --> 03:30:52,720
To protect their safety and they were told

3558
03:30:52,720 --> 03:30:54,320
they'd have to go through airport style security,

3559
03:30:54,320 --> 03:30:56,080
by the way, Lindsey, that event is now underway.

3560
03:30:56,080 --> 03:30:57,080
- Okay, Tom, thank you.

3561
03:30:57,960 --> 03:30:59,920
(crickets chirping)

3562
03:30:59,920 --> 03:31:00,760
Thank you, Tom.

3563
03:31:04,400 --> 03:31:05,880
(applause)

3564
03:31:05,880 --> 03:31:07,040
- All right, and this is the event.

3565
03:31:07,040 --> 03:31:08,280
- Thank you so much, and now we're gonna get

3566
03:31:08,280 --> 03:31:09,480
with the program.

3567
03:31:09,480 --> 03:31:12,000
Before I begin, I wanna thank our details.

3568
03:31:12,000 --> 03:31:12,840
(buzzer beeps)

3569
03:31:12,840 --> 03:31:14,800
Let's fill our links in tonight.

3570
03:31:14,800 --> 03:31:17,560
(crowd cheering)

3571
03:31:18,760 --> 03:31:19,600
- Great job.

3572
03:31:21,700 --> 03:31:23,200
Thank you both so much for being here

3573
03:31:23,200 --> 03:31:25,000
and Ilhan, I know that things have been

3574
03:31:25,000 --> 03:31:27,200
pretty tense for you and your family as well.

3575
03:31:27,200 --> 03:31:30,520
We appreciate your courage and never backing down

3576
03:31:30,520 --> 03:31:31,680
and not being silenced.

3577
03:31:31,680 --> 03:31:33,760
And during one of the worst weeks of your life,

3578
03:31:33,760 --> 03:31:35,200
you're still here showing up,

3579
03:31:35,200 --> 03:31:37,040
not just for us, but for the community.

3580
03:31:37,040 --> 03:31:38,760
And so I wanna say that we're so grateful

3581
03:31:38,760 --> 03:31:40,080
and thank you so much.

3582
03:31:40,080 --> 03:31:43,400
(crowd cheering)

3583
03:31:43,400 --> 03:31:45,240
- Thank you, Ilhan, so good to be here with you.

3584
03:31:45,240 --> 03:31:47,680
And thank you, I mean, it's interesting you chose

3585
03:31:47,680 --> 03:31:51,360
to not have the Minnesota Somali flag,

3586
03:31:51,360 --> 03:31:53,200
but the Somali flag.

3587
03:31:53,200 --> 03:31:54,840
I might be the only one that noticed.

3588
03:31:54,840 --> 03:31:55,800
(crowd laughing)

3589
03:31:55,800 --> 03:31:56,920
- Well, they're gonna notice online.

3590
03:31:56,920 --> 03:31:57,760
- No.

3591
03:31:57,760 --> 03:32:00,720
(crowd laughing)

3592
03:32:00,720 --> 03:32:01,920
- Thank you for showing that Congresswoman.

3593
03:32:01,920 --> 03:32:05,080
And I hope that you both know that everyone in this room

3594
03:32:05,080 --> 03:32:07,560
and on the stream as well, they're here for you

3595
03:32:07,560 --> 03:32:09,400
in the city, they support you nationally.

3596
03:32:09,400 --> 03:32:11,480
And we always got your back, Congresswoman,

3597
03:32:11,480 --> 03:32:12,800
and as well as you, Hassan Pfeiffer.

3598
03:32:12,800 --> 03:32:14,280
So thank you both so much.

3599
03:32:14,280 --> 03:32:17,200
(crowd cheering)

3600
03:32:17,200 --> 03:32:19,840
And so, I know you have another event to get to,

3601
03:32:19,840 --> 03:32:22,160
but I wanna ask you a couple questions

3602
03:32:22,160 --> 03:32:24,560
about everyone's beloved Congresswoman.

3603
03:32:24,560 --> 03:32:26,880
And that is how you got your start into politics.

3604
03:32:26,880 --> 03:32:30,080
Eventually making history as not only the first day rep

3605
03:32:30,080 --> 03:32:32,880
in American history, but the first sitting Congresswoman

3606
03:32:32,880 --> 03:32:34,000
and as Somali American.

3607
03:32:34,000 --> 03:32:35,880
And so, how did you get your start?

3608
03:32:39,080 --> 03:32:41,000
- See if I can do this quick.

3609
03:32:41,000 --> 03:32:41,840
- Yeah, 37.

3610
03:32:41,840 --> 03:32:44,000
(crowd laughing)

3611
03:32:44,000 --> 03:32:49,000
- I got started participating in politics really early.

3612
03:32:50,800 --> 03:32:55,720
My grandfather got invited to come out to caucus

3613
03:32:55,720 --> 03:32:59,720
and I joined him to help translate for him.

3614
03:32:59,720 --> 03:33:02,440
And I kind of really didn't like the idea

3615
03:33:02,440 --> 03:33:04,160
of my grandfather, who loved democracy,

3616
03:33:04,160 --> 03:33:06,240
who I think understood everything that was happening,

3617
03:33:06,240 --> 03:33:08,040
but didn't have the language to communicate with people

3618
03:33:08,040 --> 03:33:08,880
needing me.

3619
03:33:08,880 --> 03:33:11,680
So I stayed involved in the DFL to try to make sure

3620
03:33:11,680 --> 03:33:14,720
that our party had materials that were translated.

3621
03:33:14,720 --> 03:33:18,120
They would make, I think, videos that helped people

3622
03:33:18,120 --> 03:33:20,880
practice on how to caucus in different languages.

3623
03:33:20,880 --> 03:33:22,560
And then eventually we got resources

3624
03:33:22,560 --> 03:33:24,280
to get actual interpreters in the room.

3625
03:33:24,280 --> 03:33:26,080
Those caucuses and conventions.

3626
03:33:26,080 --> 03:33:28,120
And I liked the process of being involved

3627
03:33:28,120 --> 03:33:30,920
in grassroots organizing and politics.

3628
03:33:30,920 --> 03:33:33,960
So I was more of like a civic engagement nerd

3629
03:33:33,960 --> 03:33:36,840
when I started and as I went to college,

3630
03:33:36,840 --> 03:33:38,520
as I had kids, as I had a normal job,

3631
03:33:38,520 --> 03:33:41,880
I still stayed involved in party organizing

3632
03:33:41,880 --> 03:33:43,920
and worked on campaigns.

3633
03:33:43,920 --> 03:33:48,360
In 2014, I helped to run a campaign to unseat

3634
03:33:48,360 --> 03:33:51,440
our state rep, who at the time was a 42 year incumbent.

3635
03:33:51,440 --> 03:33:53,080
She stopped paying attention to us.

3636
03:33:53,080 --> 03:33:55,160
And it was a really important election to me.

3637
03:33:55,160 --> 03:33:57,360
I'd been involved in other campaigns to primary her.

3638
03:33:57,360 --> 03:33:58,560
None of us were successful.

3639
03:33:58,560 --> 03:34:00,120
And at the time I was working at City Hall.

3640
03:34:00,120 --> 03:34:02,320
And I was like, I think I can help make this happen.

3641
03:34:02,320 --> 03:34:06,040
We organize young people here on the West Bank and East Bank.

3642
03:34:06,040 --> 03:34:09,040
And we came, I think, about 100, maybe 115,

3643
03:34:09,040 --> 03:34:10,280
booked short of winning.

3644
03:34:10,280 --> 03:34:12,360
And I kind of lost my shit.

3645
03:34:12,360 --> 03:34:13,800
I remember that night, I drove to Wisconsin.

3646
03:34:13,800 --> 03:34:16,640
I was like, I can't even be in the state on talks that I was.

3647
03:34:16,640 --> 03:34:18,320
There were a few people that were involved.

3648
03:34:18,320 --> 03:34:22,320
Chelsea, my good friend, was one of the campus organizers

3649
03:34:22,320 --> 03:34:23,840
of the type 2 that was trying to help us.

3650
03:34:23,840 --> 03:34:26,440
And when I came back, I didn't want to be associated

3651
03:34:26,440 --> 03:34:27,640
with my political family.

3652
03:34:27,640 --> 03:34:31,000
I was just extremely heartbroken that we didn't win.

3653
03:34:31,000 --> 03:34:32,240
And my friends were like, you just

3654
03:34:32,240 --> 03:34:34,400
seem to invest it and not run yourself.

3655
03:34:34,400 --> 03:34:35,960
And I was like, I got young kids.

3656
03:34:35,960 --> 03:34:37,000
I have a city job.

3657
03:34:37,000 --> 03:34:37,960
There's a conflict.

3658
03:34:37,960 --> 03:34:39,440
And they're like, I'll get you a new job.

3659
03:34:39,440 --> 03:34:41,080
I was like, OK, can't argue with that.

3660
03:34:41,080 --> 03:34:42,440
And then I was like, what are my kids?

3661
03:34:42,440 --> 03:34:43,960
And they're like, well, pick them up from school.

3662
03:34:43,960 --> 03:34:44,880
Take them to school.

3663
03:34:44,880 --> 03:34:46,680
And I was like, well, I get a cook.

3664
03:34:46,680 --> 03:34:48,760
And they were like, well, make them meals.

3665
03:34:48,760 --> 03:34:50,680
So I ultimately run out of excuses.

3666
03:34:50,680 --> 03:34:54,040
And I decided to put my name in the hat in 2016

3667
03:34:54,040 --> 03:34:55,600
for the State House.

3668
03:34:55,600 --> 03:34:56,800
It ended up being a three-way.

3669
03:34:56,800 --> 03:34:58,960
It was being accompanied when I was a 44-year-in-competent.

3670
03:34:58,960 --> 03:35:00,960
and the Kennedy thought.

3671
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:11,600
worked for in that previous cycle. And we won by 11 points. And it was personally due to the youth

3672
03:35:11,600 --> 03:35:17,200
vote. We increased it by 35%. And then when Keith Ellison decided to run for the Attorney General

3673
03:35:17,200 --> 03:35:22,480
seat, I didn't really have much notice. I think we had like 38 hours when he told us that he was

3674
03:35:22,480 --> 03:35:28,560
going to run for Attorney General. And I got invited to a meeting with some friends and people

3675
03:35:28,560 --> 03:35:35,680
already writing checks for him. I would be camping for Congress. And I decided to say yes. My eldest

3676
03:35:35,680 --> 03:35:38,880
daughter found out from her eighth-grade math teacher that her mom filed to run for Congress.

3677
03:35:38,880 --> 03:35:42,560
She still hasn't forgiven me yet. But I did have permission from Illinois, who I think at the time

3678
03:35:42,560 --> 03:35:47,680
was like five and a half. So, you know, one out of three, I think was confidence-making.

3679
03:35:47,680 --> 03:35:49,680
As they say, the best is history.

3680
03:35:53,680 --> 03:36:00,640
And we're going to continue to make history because we will send you back.

3681
03:36:04,240 --> 03:36:07,280
As you're both very aware, this is a question for both of you. There's been a lot of-

3682
03:36:07,280 --> 03:36:11,040
We got one mic though. What's going on? The next time the budget, the next time the budget is going to

3683
03:36:11,040 --> 03:36:20,560
increase. But we've seen a lot going on in Minnesota and Minneapolis, from political violence we've seen

3684
03:36:20,560 --> 03:36:23,600
from the murder of George Floyd, which happened in both the district. I represent as well as the

3685
03:36:23,600 --> 03:36:27,040
district that the Congresswoman represents. We've seen Operation Metro Surge. We've seen political

3686
03:36:27,040 --> 03:36:30,400
violence, the assassination of Ms. Apartment or Husband, as well as the attempted assassination of

3687
03:36:30,400 --> 03:36:34,640
my good friend Senator John Hoffman and his wife and family, the shooting of Annunciation. And this

3688
03:36:34,640 --> 03:36:38,080
a long documented history of police brutality in Minneapolis. And really that's what it is,

3689
03:36:38,080 --> 03:36:41,520
is police brutality. And so both of you, as a country, as someone that's being here,

3690
03:36:41,520 --> 03:36:44,480
has signed that someone has come here a couple times, a few times, knowing what's been happening.

3691
03:36:44,480 --> 03:36:48,640
What do you think that in our politics in Minnesota has been the unique center of so many national

3692
03:36:48,640 --> 03:36:53,600
issues? Honestly, it's going to come across as oversimplified. But I think it's jealousy.

3693
03:36:53,600 --> 03:36:56,160
And I'm not just saying that the, you know, farm and applause break or anything. I think,

3694
03:36:58,720 --> 03:37:03,120
I mean, it's sincerely because I feel like especially Minneapolis has been doing

3695
03:37:03,920 --> 03:37:08,320
fairly well in comparison to the rest of the country. Its politics have moved in a more

3696
03:37:08,320 --> 03:37:12,160
positive direction year over year now. As I've come to find out, there's still a lot more room

3697
03:37:12,160 --> 03:37:17,280
to grow within the DFL. However, I think that is a big part of it. Now, of course, it's also

3698
03:37:17,280 --> 03:37:22,080
a very diverse city and a very diverse state overall, even though it's in the Midwest.

3699
03:37:22,080 --> 03:37:26,800
And I think that's another reason that white supremacist forces in this country

3700
03:37:26,800 --> 03:37:30,400
have decided to target Minneapolis because of the successful Somali American community

3701
03:37:30,400 --> 03:37:35,120
that has been able to thrive here. And I think that is something that a lot of Republicans get

3702
03:37:35,120 --> 03:37:42,160
angered by. They treat this as a zero-sum game. It's vulgar, ethno-nationalism, it's racism.

3703
03:37:42,160 --> 03:37:46,240
But I think that is the major reason as to why there's so much hyper focus. And we saw that with

3704
03:37:46,240 --> 03:37:49,840
Operation Metro Surge. Donald Trump came out and wanted to punish a city, a beautiful city that

3705
03:37:49,840 --> 03:37:55,920
was growing. And I think moved the attention away from his administration's corruption by

3706
03:37:55,920 --> 03:38:01,840
focusing the attention on what he declared was the corruption coming from the Somali population,

3707
03:38:02,480 --> 03:38:05,760
even though I think the main organizer was a white woman, which got very little coverage in the

3708
03:38:05,760 --> 03:38:09,600
media. And I thought that was fascinating as well. But ultimately, it's because you guys are doing

3709
03:38:09,600 --> 03:38:13,520
too good. But the one thing that I will say, before I hand the mic off, to get a little more,

3710
03:38:14,720 --> 03:38:19,760
what I saw here in Operation Metro Surge, aside from the devastating nature of an

3711
03:38:19,760 --> 03:38:24,320
unaccountable tyrannical government seeking the Gestapo on the good citizens that live here,

3712
03:38:24,320 --> 03:38:29,440
kidnapping your neighbors, what I saw on the other side was solidarity. And that solidarity was so

3713
03:38:29,440 --> 03:38:35,760
effective that the Trump administration had to retreat after a month-long conquest of occupying

3714
03:38:35,760 --> 03:38:40,160
the streets. And I always felt, and I talk about this all the time, when I do these events all

3715
03:38:40,160 --> 03:38:46,400
around the world, really, not just in America. But that was a moment that was a turning point

3716
03:38:46,400 --> 03:38:49,920
in this administration. That was a moment where the administration finally was on the backfoot.

3717
03:38:50,640 --> 03:38:55,440
Because even though some of our politicians that are supposed to be representing us

3718
03:38:55,440 --> 03:38:59,840
fell short of what was necessary at the time, people didn't give up. They got together,

3719
03:38:59,840 --> 03:39:04,400
they took to the streets, and they protected one another. And it wasn't just for Minneapolis

3720
03:39:04,400 --> 03:39:07,760
that this was consequential, because if the administration had been able to achieve their

3721
03:39:07,760 --> 03:39:12,640
targeted goals in Minneapolis, they were to deport tens of thousands of people without any pushback

3722
03:39:12,640 --> 03:39:17,680
whatsoever, it would be California next. It would be New York next. So Minneapolis didn't just do

3723
03:39:17,680 --> 03:39:22,000
this for their own neighbors. You did it for all of us, all around the country. So give yourselves

3724
03:39:26,240 --> 03:39:29,600
Okay, this is boring. Hold on, we got way more entertaining shit. Hold up.

3725
03:39:31,440 --> 03:39:35,360
Hold up. Adam and Stitch memes. Also wait, okay, hold on, just checking. There's no way to

3726
03:39:35,360 --> 03:39:39,360
automatically plant crops in Minecraft, right? There's just no, you can't do this, it's impossible.

3727
03:39:43,920 --> 03:39:44,800
Don't say villagers.

3728
03:39:48,000 --> 03:39:48,640
No, okay.

3729
03:39:53,600 --> 03:39:59,760
That's not a slap up from today glazing mount. Man, I don't care. We're done with this on.

3730
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:04,340
Would you share a perspective on why Mao is highly regarded in China? I already explained

3731
03:40:04,340 --> 03:40:12,400
it. Highly regarded as the Godfather of modern day China without Mao Zedong. There is no

3732
03:40:12,400 --> 03:40:19,360
PRC without Mao Zedong. This is still a nation torn apart by fucking warlords with with certain

3733
03:40:19,360 --> 03:40:25,320
parts of it occupied by the West and certain parts of it occupied by Japanese occupation.

3734
03:40:25,320 --> 03:40:31,400
That is the reason he is the founder of the People's Republic of China. Tremendous amounts

3735
03:40:31,400 --> 03:40:35,800
of land reform. Always should set off a little alarm bell in your head whenever you hear

3736
03:40:35,800 --> 03:40:42,520
somebody say and constantly say and demand to say PRC instead of CCP or People's Republic

3737
03:40:42,520 --> 03:40:48,160
of China instead of CCP they all they they'd like to lean into that more. I'm not actually

3738
03:40:48,160 --> 03:40:52,480
100% sure why. I don't know what it means. I just know that sometimes people will the

3739
03:40:52,480 --> 03:40:57,200
economy people love to always say PRC instead of CCP form basically destroying the opiate

3740
03:40:57,200 --> 03:41:04,040
addiction almost overnight overcoming great odds like these are phenomenal achievements.

3741
03:41:04,040 --> 03:41:11,320
He was also brilliant gorilla leader as well. Like the the the oh wait oh no it's no wait

3742
03:41:11,320 --> 03:41:17,560
it's not I'm sorry it's not PRC. It's when they say CPC instead of CCP. Why bad? The communist

3743
03:41:17,560 --> 03:41:25,080
party of China pulled off all the way from its formation of like what 12 people to basically

3744
03:41:25,080 --> 03:41:34,680
becoming this behemoth is is insane to comprehend. Okay, it's insane. It's it's impossible to

3745
03:41:34,680 --> 03:41:44,280
fully understand or appreciate unless you are a real student of history and yeah there

3746
03:41:44,280 --> 03:41:49,800
that's the reason that's the reason why people respect him that's the reason why people revere

3747
03:41:49,800 --> 03:41:57,280
him having said that you know it's the 70 30 principle right 70% correct 30% incorrect

3748
03:41:57,280 --> 03:42:05,480
the 30% you could argue is is what people remember most you know the pest campaign the

3749
03:42:05,480 --> 03:42:10,600
rapid industrialization the great leap forward and its failures on agriculture the famine

3750
03:42:10,600 --> 03:42:21,720
that was happening in alongside this disastrous policy the cultural revolution. All of that

3751
03:42:21,720 --> 03:42:27,480
has led to tremendous amounts of death and destruction and maybe even setbacks on Chinese

3752
03:42:27,480 --> 03:42:34,040
development. Having said that in spite of all of that the things that he did initially

3753
03:42:34,040 --> 03:42:41,360
were so powerful and so important to unite China that you know Chinese people still hold

3754
03:42:41,360 --> 03:42:51,200
them to great regard to the highest honor understandable so but the cultural revolution

3755
03:42:51,200 --> 03:42:58,240
was not just a bad thing mounded. Oh my God. Oh my God, bro. Come on. We love to admit

3756
03:42:58,240 --> 03:43:03,720
the excesses of the cultural revolution were plenty even in terms of like destruction

3757
03:43:03,720 --> 03:43:11,000
of Chinese artifacts. There's something there for everyone okay. Anti intellectualism destruction

3758
03:43:11,000 --> 03:43:15,880
of Chinese artifacts. Like I'm not doing the thing where I'm like Mosay Dong was really

3759
03:43:15,880 --> 03:43:20,440
scared of losing his grip of power so we activated the youth to go out and kill everybody and

3760
03:43:20,440 --> 03:43:25,960
they killed you know 10 gorillion people or anything right that's the attitude that people

3761
03:43:25,960 --> 03:43:36,960
have but it was in many respects ironically enough decentralized violence and purity spirals

3762
03:43:36,960 --> 03:43:45,400
that were unbelievably violent. Now some could say it was a price worth paying to cut out

3763
03:43:45,400 --> 03:43:50,800
all right is sentiment from Chinese society and perhaps that's the reason why modern day

3764
03:43:50,800 --> 03:43:57,960
China is very different and that if left unguarded if left unchecked that the right is sentiment

3765
03:43:57,960 --> 03:44:08,080
in the people's Republic of China would have overcome the party's power right but I don't

3766
03:44:08,080 --> 03:44:17,200
think it was a cost that was worthwhile it's just that the deaths were far too the destruction

3767
03:44:17,200 --> 03:44:28,040
was far too vast anyway anyway is the reference about Mao by the Chinese them from the fact

3768
03:44:28,040 --> 03:44:32,480
that the United China was fragmented it reminds me about Abraham Lincoln no there's no comparison

3769
03:44:32,480 --> 03:44:39,040
I don't think in in like the odds are you can't even compare it to like the American Revolution

3770
03:44:39,040 --> 03:44:45,360
because the deck was so stacked against against Mosay Dong it was just the brother for like

3771
03:44:45,360 --> 03:44:52,040
the first decade onwards the Communist Party of China existed in a country that was either

3772
03:44:52,040 --> 03:44:59,720
occupied by Western forces or occupied by in parts by Japan or otherwise they were segmented

3773
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:07,240
to different warlords, like territories that very, very ruthless warlords controlled, okay?

3774
03:45:07,240 --> 03:45:11,400
Constantly plagued by civil war, internal turmoil, a really, really high percentage

3775
03:45:11,400 --> 03:45:13,920
of society was also deeply addicted to opiates.

3776
03:45:13,920 --> 03:45:15,880
It was a lawless land.

3777
03:45:15,880 --> 03:45:17,920
This is what they talk about when they say the century of humiliation.

3778
03:45:17,920 --> 03:45:22,240
It was a disaster, okay?

3779
03:45:22,240 --> 03:45:29,320
Yeah, even the long march alone was 69,000 communists versus 300,000 KMT.

3780
03:45:29,320 --> 03:45:33,120
No, it's like, initially the numbers were way worse.

3781
03:45:33,120 --> 03:45:40,920
Like, Mao Zedong's greatest feat was, in my opinion, being able to activate the peasantry

3782
03:45:40,920 --> 03:45:44,880
and to cause them to turn, helping them recognize, in a matter of not dissimilar to the Cuban

3783
03:45:44,880 --> 03:45:50,880
revolution as well, it was his capability of going to the peasants and saying, "Look,

3784
03:45:50,880 --> 03:45:52,080
you deserve more.

3785
03:45:52,080 --> 03:45:54,040
You will take ownership over this land.

3786
03:45:54,040 --> 03:45:58,120
If left in the hands of the KMT, you will inevitably go back to the previous hierarchies,

3787
03:45:58,120 --> 03:46:02,800
the previous formation, and you will not have control over your own destiny."

3788
03:46:02,800 --> 03:46:03,800
I'm sorry.

3789
03:46:03,800 --> 03:46:05,360
What, uh, name drop?

3790
03:46:05,360 --> 03:46:11,920
I just haven't heard of this before.

3791
03:46:11,920 --> 03:46:17,360
In the decades after World War II, he's saying that China was occupied.

3792
03:46:17,360 --> 03:46:18,360
What is this?

3793
03:46:18,360 --> 03:46:22,360
What is this in reference to?

3794
03:46:22,360 --> 03:46:27,640
Or did he say, oh, did he say before World War II?

3795
03:46:27,640 --> 03:46:28,640
Oh, okay.

3796
03:46:28,640 --> 03:46:29,640
That might be true.

3797
03:46:29,640 --> 03:46:33,600
Was his capability of going to the peasants and saying, "Look, you deserve more.

3798
03:46:33,600 --> 03:46:35,520
You will take ownership over this land.

3799
03:46:35,520 --> 03:46:39,640
If left in the hands of the KMT, you will inevitably go back to the previous hierarchies,

3800
03:46:39,640 --> 03:46:42,800
the previous formation, and you will--

3801
03:46:42,800 --> 03:46:44,400
China research arc.

3802
03:46:44,400 --> 03:46:45,400
China historic would actually be interesting.

3803
03:46:45,400 --> 03:46:50,040
You will not have control over your own destiny.

3804
03:46:50,040 --> 03:46:52,400
And the peasants were like, "That sounds fucking great."

3805
03:46:52,400 --> 03:46:57,120
Well, the French Revolution was pretty good.

3806
03:46:57,120 --> 03:46:59,280
I would even say the American Revolution was pretty solid, too.

3807
03:46:59,280 --> 03:47:00,280
Come on now.

3808
03:47:00,280 --> 03:47:11,720
Maybe I'm too much of an emerald, but I'm a fan.

3809
03:47:11,720 --> 03:47:19,600
Why does my economic rogers care so much about what Israelis want and so little about what

3810
03:47:19,600 --> 03:47:20,940
you want?

3811
03:47:20,940 --> 03:47:26,280
Mike rogers is for they/them.

3812
03:47:26,280 --> 03:47:30,280
Oh, that's why.

3813
03:47:30,280 --> 03:47:31,280
I mean, it's--

3814
03:47:31,280 --> 03:47:32,280
I do.

3815
03:47:32,280 --> 03:47:33,280
Oh, he knows the name.

3816
03:47:33,280 --> 03:47:35,400
He knows the neo-Nazi dog whistle.

3817
03:47:35,400 --> 03:47:36,400
Okay.

3818
03:47:36,400 --> 03:47:38,400
That's the ticket.

3819
03:47:38,400 --> 03:47:45,520
Well, the real reason why people are mad about it is because the ad is obviously very anti-Israel

3820
03:47:45,520 --> 03:47:49,880
and says something that a lot of people also agree with, which is like, "What the fuck

3821
03:47:49,880 --> 03:47:52,120
are we spending all this money on Israel?"

3822
03:47:52,120 --> 03:47:55,520
And then we're going to wars, and those wars are not only costly, but then also they end

3823
03:47:55,520 --> 03:48:00,620
up having an adverse impact on prices here, right?

3824
03:48:00,620 --> 03:48:03,320
It's a little bit sloppulous.

3825
03:48:03,320 --> 03:48:06,240
I will admit that.

3826
03:48:06,240 --> 03:48:18,320
Straight, straight-forwardly a little bit sloppulous.

3827
03:48:18,320 --> 03:48:26,440
And then the ad makes a nod at the Republican ad, Kamala is for they/them, but this time

3828
03:48:26,440 --> 03:48:33,800
that they/them is not trans people, this time that they/them is prominent Israeli politicians.

3829
03:48:33,800 --> 03:48:41,980
But because of that positioning, I think people will-- the people will say, like, "Oh, you're

3830
03:48:41,980 --> 03:48:42,980
being anti-Semitic."

3831
03:48:42,980 --> 03:48:47,080
Abdul and Syed is for you.

3832
03:48:47,080 --> 03:48:48,080
Yeah.

3833
03:48:48,080 --> 03:48:51,760
Jank was beefing with Hailey Stevens over defense of Israel in this ad, so New York had to step

3834
03:48:51,760 --> 03:48:52,760
in to drunkenly whine.

3835
03:48:52,760 --> 03:48:57,360
The problem with stuff like this is that it opens up a new avenue of attack against al-Dulal

3836
03:48:57,360 --> 03:48:58,360
Syed.

3837
03:48:58,360 --> 03:48:59,360
It was like, "Oh, he's anti-Semitic.

3838
03:48:59,360 --> 03:49:01,320
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all this shit."

3839
03:49:01,320 --> 03:49:04,160
So the campaign will obviously come out and say, I guess they already did.

3840
03:49:04,160 --> 03:49:05,160
I'll say the campaign statement.

3841
03:49:05,160 --> 03:49:06,960
This ad is not affiliated in any way with the Abdul for Senate campaign.

3842
03:49:06,960 --> 03:49:07,960
Abdul is focused on pushing back his Trump's agenda.

3843
03:49:07,960 --> 03:49:08,960
There's raising price for Mr. Sanders.

3844
03:49:08,960 --> 03:49:10,960
No one speaks for Abdul.

3845
03:49:10,960 --> 03:49:11,960
But himself.

3846
03:49:11,960 --> 03:49:13,960
Hey, Dan, I know you're probably super busy trying to set up your next doom campaign, but

3847
03:49:13,960 --> 03:49:15,960
if you or your sycophantic consultant spent like five seconds doing some due diligence,

3848
03:49:15,960 --> 03:49:17,960
you would have found out that this campaign is just about as several hours before you posted

3849
03:49:17,960 --> 03:49:18,960
it.

3850
03:49:18,960 --> 03:49:21,400
Like, they just shouldn't even be running these, whatever-- whoever's-- whatever pack or super

3851
03:49:21,400 --> 03:49:22,400
pack is running.

3852
03:49:22,400 --> 03:49:26,400
This is like, again, Israel is not a top issue for any constituency.

3853
03:49:26,400 --> 03:49:27,400
Nobody is looking at this.

3854
03:49:27,400 --> 03:49:29,560
This is even like a top three or-- I think top five issue.

3855
03:49:29,560 --> 03:49:32,880
Like affordability, immigration, gas prices, these are all things-- housing, even health

3856
03:49:32,880 --> 03:49:34,400
care, all of these things are ranking high on this.

3857
03:49:34,400 --> 03:49:36,320
Why the fuck would you load an ad with something like this?

3858
03:49:36,320 --> 03:49:39,920
It's so toxic for no reason, especially when Abdul Alsair is already struggling with certain

3859
03:49:39,920 --> 03:49:40,920
demographics.

3860
03:49:40,920 --> 03:49:41,920
Like, why?

3861
03:49:41,920 --> 03:49:42,920
Like, why?

3862
03:49:42,920 --> 03:49:43,920
It's just so stupid.

3863
03:49:43,920 --> 03:49:44,920
Oh, my God.

3864
03:49:44,920 --> 03:49:45,920
Yeah.

3865
03:49:45,920 --> 03:49:47,520
It can be twisted negatively.

3866
03:49:47,520 --> 03:49:48,520
Look, I'm--

3867
03:49:48,520 --> 03:49:49,520
It can be twisted negatively.

3868
03:49:49,520 --> 03:49:50,520
I'm conflicted on this.

3869
03:49:50,520 --> 03:49:53,520
I'm conflicted on this because on the one hand, like, the ad itself is-- you know, even--

3870
03:49:53,520 --> 03:49:58,800
the ad itself, especially without the they/them part, would probably be even less objectionable.

3871
03:49:58,800 --> 03:50:00,800
But, the reason for why people

3872
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:04,640
are objecting to it. The reason for why people are objecting to it is because the ad is critical

3873
03:50:04,640 --> 03:50:16,000
of American resources going to Israel. That is the real reason. Right? Oh my God. Why does

3874
03:50:16,000 --> 03:50:28,000
Mike Rogers care? Okay. What do we got going on here? Apparently, these guys got into a big fight

3875
03:50:28,000 --> 03:50:37,760
today. They said he here with another something. Crypto skip. These guys are like the the enlightened

3876
03:50:37,760 --> 03:50:43,280
centrist people on. I'd say on YouTube, like an hour, kind of like corner of the internet,

3877
03:50:43,280 --> 03:50:46,960
you don't know them just just know that like they know that Trump and Matt goes really bad,

3878
03:50:46,960 --> 03:50:51,040
but they're here to tell you why the lives are also pretty bad. Not quite as bad, but man,

3879
03:50:51,040 --> 03:50:58,640
do they talk about that a lot. The Republicans in Washington are also corrupt. Like Trump has

3880
03:50:58,640 --> 03:51:05,680
done this crypto scam. Well, I don't give a fuck. I care about Nithia ramen wanting to like triple

3881
03:51:05,680 --> 03:51:12,880
the amount of rent control that we have in Los Angeles. So the homeless crisis gets completely

3882
03:51:12,880 --> 03:51:18,320
out of him, which is already getting out of him. So that's that's the my situation.

3883
03:51:18,320 --> 03:51:22,160
It's just a situation where I feel like both of us in the past, when we try to talk about this,

3884
03:51:22,160 --> 03:51:27,440
at least I specifically, I would take a thousand crypto screams. I would I would talk about how

3885
03:51:28,240 --> 03:51:31,840
individual politicians are doing a thing. And you know, yeah, usually their party is going to

3886
03:51:31,840 --> 03:51:34,160
try to defend them because unfortunately that's the political environment we live in. And we

3887
03:51:34,160 --> 03:51:38,160
talk about these individual situations. And the reason for that was because I don't like

3888
03:51:38,160 --> 03:51:43,040
that every single political show is essentially just raw, raw cheerleading for we're only going

3889
03:51:43,040 --> 03:51:46,160
to talk about how one side does a whole bunch of bad things. And we're only going to, you know,

3890
03:51:46,160 --> 03:51:49,840
suck the dick of our side and prop them up. And that we're going to cultivate this

3891
03:51:49,840 --> 03:51:53,040
simplistic, untrue worldview. And this is the whole thing about like the entirety of like

3892
03:51:53,040 --> 03:51:56,080
Jonathan Heights point is that there's like this cultivating worldview that there's like this

3893
03:51:56,080 --> 03:51:58,640
good and evil side. That's the great myth. There's this good and evil side and one side's evil,

3894
03:51:58,640 --> 03:52:02,640
one side's good. And that's the way that most political shows work. And I've always been pushing

3895
03:52:02,640 --> 03:52:05,600
back against that because I just just not true. And I thought that you didn't think that that

3896
03:52:05,600 --> 03:52:08,960
was true either. And yeah, we have a situation where you know, you can look at specific Democrat

3897
03:52:08,960 --> 03:52:12,080
policies, especially the social policies and say, you know, these are fucking dodge of policies,

3898
03:52:12,080 --> 03:52:16,160
the social evil, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. And that's fine. But you understand

3899
03:52:16,160 --> 03:52:19,840
that if you're in an environment where all you do is you say, one side is evil, one side is evil,

3900
03:52:19,840 --> 03:52:22,720
one side is evil, and you're just completely silent about the other side, you're basically

3901
03:52:22,720 --> 03:52:26,160
cultivating scenario like, well, the other side is obviously the good innocent side that does

3902
03:52:26,160 --> 03:52:30,160
nothing wrong. And you're just creating a false sense of reality for people, you know, for how

3903
03:52:30,160 --> 03:52:34,560
people will perceive politics going forward, that's just untrue. Right. And that's why I don't try to

3904
03:52:34,560 --> 03:52:37,040
frame things in that way whatsoever. I'm trying to avoid that situation in the first place.

3905
03:52:37,600 --> 03:52:43,280
Yeah, it's it's both sides and you're trying to both sides. But it's in it in a situation,

3906
03:52:44,000 --> 03:52:48,240
like there is a true lesser of two evils. Like I would never I would never say,

3907
03:52:48,240 --> 03:52:52,480
especially in a political situation, that there's like the good side who is everything is good and

3908
03:52:52,480 --> 03:52:56,960
the bad side, everything is bad. There is a lesser of two evils. And I constantly talk about the

3909
03:52:56,960 --> 03:53:02,640
lesser of two evils. And just in this situation, I think where the Democrats have gotten so bad

3910
03:53:02,640 --> 03:53:08,080
that the lesser of two evils is obviously the Republicans. He went he went the opposite even

3911
03:53:08,080 --> 03:53:13,360
of the dumb take he was going to give it somehow was even dumber. The saddest thing about this

3912
03:53:13,360 --> 03:53:18,800
show is that this I think this is the Adam guy. The six dude is like not super retarded. But the

3913
03:53:18,800 --> 03:53:25,280
Adam guy is is mega retarded. And the fact that six chooses to let this guy infect his mind so

3914
03:53:25,280 --> 03:53:29,520
much and spend so much time on it. Like I think it's as big a condemnation as him being his dumb.

3915
03:53:30,400 --> 03:53:37,840
Jesus. Yeah. Okay. So I just though it's it's it's okay to talk about the reality of that

3916
03:53:37,840 --> 03:53:44,000
situation and not try to make it a like both sides are equally bad. If you frame it like that,

3917
03:53:44,000 --> 03:53:46,880
if you say listen, you know, the problems are doing a bunch of bad shit or you know,

3918
03:53:46,880 --> 03:53:51,040
Trump is like doing insanely corrupt things. But I think from a voting perspective, it's a lesser

3919
03:53:51,040 --> 03:53:55,280
two evil situations where, you know, the Democrats policies are so bad that I'm willing to put up

3920
03:53:55,280 --> 03:53:59,600
with like a very high level amount of corruption in the risk of what that entails because the big

3921
03:53:59,600 --> 03:54:02,960
problem with corruption that I don't think people grapple with is they just think, Oh, well, why is

3922
03:54:02,960 --> 03:54:06,880
it a problem? If Trump makes a billion dollars from people. Well, it's a problem. Not only is it

3923
03:54:06,880 --> 03:54:10,720
just highly fucking immoral, but also the problem because you want to trust that your president is

3924
03:54:10,720 --> 03:54:13,760
making decisions that are for the good of the country. You don't want your presence making

3925
03:54:13,760 --> 03:54:16,880
decisions that are just enriching themselves personally. Okay. And so the president could

3926
03:54:16,880 --> 03:54:19,360
be making a lot of decisions that are actually bad for the country, but they're making a bunch

3927
03:54:19,360 --> 03:54:23,120
of money with including going the fucking war with Iran, because he's getting a bunch of fucking

3928
03:54:23,120 --> 03:54:25,360
money from Saudi Arabia. And that's something that maybe they want to do. Or maybe they're getting

3929
03:54:25,360 --> 03:54:28,480
some fucking kickback from Israel. Who the fuck knows, but he gets an entire fucking war. So this

3930
03:54:28,480 --> 03:54:31,680
whole idea like, well, it's just corruption. You know, I don't buy that. That's just some minor

3931
03:54:31,680 --> 03:54:34,560
thing. But if you want to frame it, like, well, that's because you live in Florida where you don't

3932
03:54:34,560 --> 03:54:37,680
have like a homeless drug addict wandering around the streets ruining your fucking life.

3933
03:54:38,240 --> 03:54:41,680
That's easy for you to talk about the local policies that are going on in California.

3934
03:54:41,680 --> 03:54:45,600
Yeah, it's easy for you to say that every Democrat ruining your fucking life is some sort of

3935
03:54:45,600 --> 03:54:49,280
I'm not gonna be lost. I say there's a lawsuit file. I'll go over later. Maybe. Okay. Okay. I didn't

3936
03:54:49,280 --> 03:54:59,840
know. I was just asking like 50 million people up like I haven't finished. Okay. Let me know.

3937
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:03,000
(keyboard clicking)

3938
03:55:17,540 --> 03:55:19,160
- I am a human.

3939
03:55:19,160 --> 03:55:20,000
- Jesus.

3940
03:55:20,000 --> 03:55:20,820
- You are Claude.

3941
03:55:22,100 --> 03:55:24,360
(sighing)

3942
03:55:30,440 --> 03:55:33,440
(crickets chirping)

3943
03:55:35,940 --> 03:55:37,840
- Just gotta be pasted for Claude, man.

3944
03:55:42,500 --> 03:55:43,800
All right, we gotta see who his lawyers are

3945
03:55:43,800 --> 03:55:45,000
and see what bad they've done.

3946
03:55:45,000 --> 03:55:46,960
- Do you see along from the mean cases?

3947
03:55:46,960 --> 03:55:47,800
- I was like, okay.

3948
03:55:47,800 --> 03:55:49,300
- So I'm assuming Scott, whatever,

3949
03:55:49,300 --> 03:55:54,100
because he's mad looking for $60, $70 million.

3950
03:55:54,100 --> 03:55:55,400
- What the heck?

3951
03:55:55,400 --> 03:55:57,800
He was looking for $30 million?

3952
03:55:57,800 --> 03:55:59,200
- $70 million, I don't know.

3953
03:55:59,200 --> 03:56:02,120
- Good luck, good luck, has fun.

3954
03:56:02,120 --> 03:56:04,480
- Like evil villain person and thus,

3955
03:56:04,480 --> 03:56:05,720
by comparison, casting the Republicans

3956
03:56:05,720 --> 03:56:07,760
is like being this like good light.

3957
03:56:07,760 --> 03:56:12,600
- It's easy for you to care about the high level

3958
03:56:12,600 --> 03:56:14,480
corruption in Washington, D.C.

3959
03:56:14,480 --> 03:56:16,720
when you have a life that's being protected

3960
03:56:16,720 --> 03:56:17,560
by the public policy.

3961
03:56:17,560 --> 03:56:19,160
- Why is it an or situation?

3962
03:56:19,160 --> 03:56:20,000
I know this doesn't make any sense.

3963
03:56:20,000 --> 03:56:21,920
Look, because you understand how Maslow's hierarchy

3964
03:56:21,920 --> 03:56:22,760
of needs works, right?

3965
03:56:22,760 --> 03:56:23,600
- No, that's not what I'm saying, I'm saying.

3966
03:56:23,600 --> 03:56:26,160
- You could have a Republican who's in office,

3967
03:56:26,160 --> 03:56:27,600
who's a normal fucking Republican,

3968
03:56:27,600 --> 03:56:28,520
who we could sit here and say,

3969
03:56:28,520 --> 03:56:30,200
well, I disagree with some policies, blah, blah, blah,

3970
03:56:30,200 --> 03:56:31,760
but I think that overall, if I have to weigh

3971
03:56:31,760 --> 03:56:32,600
the policy choices,

3972
03:56:32,600 --> 03:56:33,520
I agree with those policies in one of them.

3973
03:56:33,520 --> 03:56:34,920
We could have that.

3974
03:56:34,920 --> 03:56:35,960
What I don't understand is you're like,

3975
03:56:35,960 --> 03:56:37,360
well, because I don't like all the fuck

3976
03:56:37,360 --> 03:56:38,200
that the Democrats are doing,

3977
03:56:38,200 --> 03:56:41,120
I then have to excuse this crazy fucking horrible shit

3978
03:56:41,120 --> 03:56:41,960
that Donald Trump is doing.

3979
03:56:41,960 --> 03:56:43,680
We don't have to live in that world.

3980
03:56:43,680 --> 03:56:45,200
They're both fucking bad.

3981
03:56:45,200 --> 03:56:46,720
They're both fucking awful.

3982
03:56:46,720 --> 03:56:48,340
That's the free will take.

3983
03:56:48,340 --> 03:56:50,160
- No, it's not the free will take.

3984
03:56:50,160 --> 03:56:52,080
- No, that's the imaginary delusional third option.

3985
03:56:52,080 --> 03:56:54,160
- That's the delusion, I don't have to defend it.

3986
03:56:54,160 --> 03:56:55,000
I don't have to defend it.

3987
03:56:55,000 --> 03:56:55,840
- How is it not delusional?

3988
03:56:55,840 --> 03:56:57,720
- Look, you're bringing in some mythical candidate

3989
03:56:57,720 --> 03:56:59,280
that we had on the Republican side during the last-

3990
03:56:59,280 --> 03:57:01,000
- You're not voting for Donald Trump in California.

3991
03:57:01,000 --> 03:57:03,400
You can say that Donald Trump fucking sucks shit.

3992
03:57:03,400 --> 03:57:04,600
And also, I want a Republican

3993
03:57:04,600 --> 03:57:06,000
to be a governor of California.

3994
03:57:06,000 --> 03:57:06,840
You can say both those things.

3995
03:57:06,840 --> 03:57:09,000
He's not running for your governor in California.

3996
03:57:09,000 --> 03:57:12,800
- Look, you're saying that you care more

3997
03:57:12,800 --> 03:57:17,360
about the corruption going on in the Trump administration

3998
03:57:17,360 --> 03:57:20,240
than you do about the horrible policies

3999
03:57:20,240 --> 03:57:22,320
that the Democrats just rubber stamp as-

4000
03:57:22,320 --> 03:57:23,360
- I literally never said that.

4001
03:57:23,360 --> 03:57:24,920
- Okay, which is worse.

4002
03:57:24,920 --> 03:57:27,120
- Did I ever predict that this guy would go MAGA

4003
03:57:27,120 --> 03:57:28,760
or that he, 'cause this guy used to both sides

4004
03:57:28,760 --> 03:57:29,600
and he used to piss me off so much,

4005
03:57:29,600 --> 03:57:30,680
but they always used to do this thing

4006
03:57:30,680 --> 03:57:32,880
where they pretended they were both liberal.

4007
03:57:32,880 --> 03:57:35,200
And I think Sitch is, but he gives so much airtime

4008
03:57:35,200 --> 03:57:36,600
to this fucking retard Adam.

4009
03:57:36,600 --> 03:57:37,760
It's like, oh my God.

4010
03:57:38,920 --> 03:57:41,680
- The Democrats, policy prescriptions as a party

4011
03:57:41,680 --> 03:57:44,400
or corruption in Washington, D.C.

4012
03:57:44,400 --> 03:57:45,920
We'll just ask, which is worse.

4013
03:57:45,920 --> 03:57:46,880
- Well, this is, well, you know my answer,

4014
03:57:46,880 --> 03:57:48,040
'cause I gave you this answer before the stream.

4015
03:57:48,040 --> 03:57:50,720
I said, you agreed with, which I said it's hard to tell

4016
03:57:50,720 --> 03:57:51,960
because we kind of have to see the aftermath

4017
03:57:51,960 --> 03:57:53,240
of a lot of these policy decisions to see

4018
03:57:53,240 --> 03:57:54,560
in terms of like, which one is worse?

4019
03:57:54,560 --> 03:57:56,280
- I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean like a 10 year time span.

4020
03:57:56,280 --> 03:57:57,120
- I didn't agree.

4021
03:57:57,120 --> 03:57:59,120
I unequivocally said that the Democrats array a policy.

4022
03:57:59,120 --> 03:57:59,960
- You agreed with these?

4023
03:57:59,960 --> 03:58:00,800
- A thousand times worse.

4024
03:58:00,800 --> 03:58:01,780
- I thought you said that that was a,

4025
03:58:01,780 --> 03:58:02,920
at least a thousand times worse.

4026
03:58:02,920 --> 03:58:04,200
- It's like a lesser to you.

4027
03:58:04,200 --> 03:58:05,040
- It's like a Republican policy.

4028
03:58:05,040 --> 03:58:05,880
- But I obviously think.

4029
03:58:05,880 --> 03:58:07,480
- Yeah, then war with Iran and tariffs against

4030
03:58:07,480 --> 03:58:08,480
the entire world and everything else.

4031
03:58:08,480 --> 03:58:09,920
I don't know what he, maybe he's really mad at it.

4032
03:58:09,920 --> 03:58:11,120
- What are the Democrat policies?

4033
03:58:11,120 --> 03:58:11,960
What does he mean?

4034
03:58:11,960 --> 03:58:14,160
- D.E.I. are trans people, I don't know.

4035
03:58:14,160 --> 03:58:17,240
- But the Democrats policies are far worse

4036
03:58:17,240 --> 03:58:18,560
than the Republican corruption.

4037
03:58:18,560 --> 03:58:22,000
- When I talk to like my dad, okay, about these situations.

4038
03:58:22,000 --> 03:58:23,560
Like the first thing that he'll do,

4039
03:58:23,560 --> 03:58:25,640
like he didn't like, who was the Spencer?

4040
03:58:25,640 --> 03:58:26,880
That was a guy that was a Republican.

4041
03:58:26,880 --> 03:58:28,160
- She was saying the exact same thing I said

4042
03:58:28,160 --> 03:58:30,240
before the stream in the chat, which is hilarious.

4043
03:58:30,240 --> 03:58:31,360
The Trump air will end.

4044
03:58:31,360 --> 03:58:33,040
It's not really that big a deal.

4045
03:58:34,080 --> 03:58:35,240
But anyway, go ahead, I interrupted.

4046
03:58:35,240 --> 03:58:36,800
- Will it?

4047
03:58:36,800 --> 03:58:37,640
- I don't know why you're saying that.

4048
03:58:37,640 --> 03:58:38,680
- It's just, that's what you said.

4049
03:58:38,680 --> 03:58:39,600
I just read her thing.

4050
03:58:39,600 --> 03:58:40,600
- No, no, that's how I'm saying.

4051
03:58:40,600 --> 03:58:43,080
I'm saying, we live in a moment right now

4052
03:58:43,080 --> 03:58:43,920
that the, at least on the,

4053
03:58:43,920 --> 03:58:46,480
it looks like politics is between the far left,

4054
03:58:46,480 --> 03:58:48,480
especially online, the far left socialist

4055
03:58:48,480 --> 03:58:51,480
and the right is becoming more deranged and unhinged

4056
03:58:51,480 --> 03:58:53,400
to be sucked and deeper and deeper into ethonationalism

4057
03:58:53,400 --> 03:58:55,520
and to be completely bankrupt of morality.

4058
03:58:55,520 --> 03:58:56,360
- Okay.

4059
03:58:56,360 --> 03:58:57,180
I already get left.

4060
03:58:57,180 --> 03:58:58,020
- Yeah, I agree.

4061
03:58:58,020 --> 03:58:58,840
- It doesn't fucking have morality

4062
03:58:58,840 --> 03:58:59,680
and the right's becoming completely bankrupt of morality.

4063
03:58:59,680 --> 03:59:00,520
- I see that completely.

4064
03:59:00,520 --> 03:59:02,400
- And Donald Trump is helping usher that fucking along.

4065
03:59:02,400 --> 03:59:03,680
And so you're like, well, yeah, I agree.

4066
03:59:03,680 --> 03:59:04,600
He's not gonna be present into yours.

4067
03:59:04,600 --> 03:59:06,720
And I fucking hope and I pray that the Republicans

4068
03:59:06,720 --> 03:59:08,200
and the Democrats, though, that's more of a crap shoot,

4069
03:59:08,200 --> 03:59:09,320
but the Republicans get some sort of fucking

4070
03:59:09,320 --> 03:59:11,640
normal Republican candidate who's not in a moral piece

4071
03:59:11,640 --> 03:59:13,280
of shit and that things will go back on track.

4072
03:59:13,280 --> 03:59:14,280
I hope that's the case.

4073
03:59:14,280 --> 03:59:16,000
And I've even said this in the fuck for years,

4074
03:59:16,000 --> 03:59:17,040
I said this, I said, that's why, you know,

4075
03:59:17,040 --> 03:59:18,600
whenever we'd had the lefties come on our stream

4076
03:59:18,600 --> 03:59:20,920
and say, oh my God, Sitch, how could you not like

4077
03:59:25,520 --> 03:59:27,280
well, I'm hoping that when Trump is gone,

4078
03:59:27,280 --> 03:59:28,560
that will be the end of Trumpism, okay?

4079
03:59:28,560 --> 03:59:30,400
But as I'm watching online, I'm hoping too,

4080
03:59:30,400 --> 03:59:31,520
but I'm not sure that's the fucking case.

4081
03:59:31,520 --> 03:59:32,360
I'm not sure that's the fucking case.

4082
03:59:32,360 --> 03:59:33,360
We really need some sort of morality

4083
03:59:33,360 --> 03:59:34,200
in this fucking country.

4084
03:59:34,200 --> 03:59:35,160
And it's just, it's all going to shit right now.

4085
03:59:35,160 --> 03:59:36,000
- What is Trumpism?

4086
03:59:36,000 --> 03:59:37,640
And how are you defining it?

4087
03:59:37,640 --> 03:59:39,440
- It's just this attitude of like, it's exactly what you're saying.

4088
03:59:39,440 --> 03:59:40,760
It's like, I don't like the other side.

4089
03:59:40,760 --> 03:59:44,120
So fuck it, you know, no enemies to the right, essentially.

4090
03:59:44,120 --> 03:59:47,120
- Yeah, I see, when you say that it's the far left,

4091
03:59:47,120 --> 03:59:48,600
that's ascended and the far right that's ascended,

4092
03:59:48,600 --> 03:59:50,480
I think the far right has so little power

4093
03:59:50,480 --> 03:59:52,200
and that the far left has so much power

4094
03:59:52,200 --> 03:59:56,040
that I really think it's like the...

4095
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:03,660
abs of Congress and the president of the United States of America, you

4096
04:00:03,660 --> 04:00:05,900
spoken to the before how that conversation got was a topic. I used to argue

4097
04:00:05,900 --> 04:00:09,440
them and then we had one final big blood argument over how retardedly I was

4098
04:00:09,440 --> 04:00:13,200
it over this like cringe centrism shit. I don't remember our last part was even

4099
04:00:13,200 --> 04:00:15,820
over and I was like, I'm done. This is actually what I think they said they

4100
04:00:15,820 --> 04:00:18,780
were done with me because they thought I was bad faith or something. The far

4101
04:00:18,780 --> 04:00:23,300
left versus the moderate. This is the conversation that we had. This is the

4102
04:00:23,300 --> 04:00:27,160
literal exact conversation that we had with people on the left five to six

4103
04:00:27,160 --> 04:00:30,360
years ago that we would say there's all these fucking crazy lefty people. They'd

4104
04:00:30,360 --> 04:00:33,400
say it's just kids on college campuses. It doesn't matter. And now they're not

4105
04:00:33,400 --> 04:00:36,080
kids on college campuses. It's the same thing. Oh, it's just people on the

4106
04:00:36,080 --> 04:00:38,800
internet. It's just as men gold who's the biggest right-wing streamer who's

4107
04:00:38,800 --> 04:00:41,320
advocating essentially for violence and shit at the moment now. He's doing the

4108
04:00:41,320 --> 04:00:45,120
song. Okay. This is the world that we live in at the moment. I wish it wasn't

4109
04:00:45,120 --> 04:00:51,960
but it is. Actually, the big difference between that was at the same time those

4110
04:00:51,960 --> 04:00:55,960
people were saying that we could point to like half a dozen movies and television

4111
04:00:55,960 --> 04:00:59,880
shows and cancel culture situations where you would see an obvious power

4112
04:00:59,880 --> 04:01:09,640
discrepancy where you would see TV shows the far left having much more cultural

4113
04:01:09,640 --> 04:01:12,840
power and political power than the right ever has. Now, when I'm saying this

4114
04:01:12,840 --> 04:01:16,680
right now, tell me the popular movie that's going to be nominated for an

4115
04:01:16,680 --> 04:01:22,320
Academy Award that signal boost immigrants are dangerous or any of the

4116
04:01:22,320 --> 04:01:27,960
ideas that the far right is pitching. Do you want to talk about states, okay, in

4117
04:01:27,960 --> 04:01:30,920
how that affects you, right? So you had the white nationalist

4118
04:01:30,920 --> 04:01:35,200
scraper candidate James Fishback who was running in Florida. All right. And he

4119
04:01:35,200 --> 04:01:38,200
lost. He lost. He definitely lost in the primary against Byron Donald, who's a

4120
04:01:38,200 --> 04:01:42,000
black guy, right? But what? As James Fishback likes to point out, and it was like

4121
04:01:42,000 --> 04:01:45,400
all the grippers like to point out, if it was a vote that was like just among, I

4122
04:01:45,400 --> 04:01:47,280
think it was like, I don't know if it was like under 30 or under four years, if it was

4123
04:01:47,280 --> 04:01:51,200
just a vote among the young people, he would have won. All right. That's what I'm

4124
04:01:51,200 --> 04:01:53,680
worried. It's the same thing with the woke left. It started, I guess with the

4125
04:01:53,680 --> 04:01:55,600
woke up, I didn't 100% sorry, it was sorry with the young people, but also there was

4126
04:01:55,600 --> 04:01:57,800
like, you know, the colleges and shit. But when you look at this stuff, there is

4127
04:01:57,800 --> 04:02:02,240
this growing fucking group of young right-wingers who believe all this crazy

4128
04:02:02,240 --> 04:02:05,600
shit and are pushing on this crazy shit. And yeah, eventually, right now you're

4129
04:02:05,600 --> 04:02:07,360
saying, Oh, well, it's not Hollywood. That's true. But these people are going to

4130
04:02:07,360 --> 04:02:09,800
fucking grow up. These people are growing up. They're warming their way into

4131
04:02:09,800 --> 04:02:12,240
social power. There was there was multiple articles that are coming out

4132
04:02:12,240 --> 04:02:14,400
there saying like half the fucking staffers in Washington are fucking

4133
04:02:14,400 --> 04:02:18,440
grippers and shit. They find this is fucking bragging about this shit. I don't

4134
04:02:18,440 --> 04:02:21,080
know why we want to get caught with their pants down the same way we do with all

4135
04:02:21,080 --> 04:02:24,080
the fucking woke smoke socialist shit. Look, you have to be realistic about

4136
04:02:24,080 --> 04:02:27,080
where we're at in the culture. Okay. And the when I was calling up the far left

4137
04:02:27,080 --> 04:02:30,080
in this situation, the people who were saying, Oh, it's just college kids seem

4138
04:02:30,080 --> 04:02:32,800
delusional because we could point to a thousand different things where they had

4139
04:02:32,800 --> 04:02:36,040
cultural power. Okay, you're pointing to one thing. I'm saying they're growing in

4140
04:02:36,040 --> 04:02:38,600
cultural power. Yeah, I know showing this that they're growing and growing and

4141
04:02:38,600 --> 04:02:41,880
growing. And I'm willing to acknowledge that. Okay, the six really try and got to

4142
04:02:41,880 --> 04:02:44,840
respect it a little. No, you don't, such sits here like a cock and fights with

4143
04:02:44,840 --> 04:02:47,840
us like the little bit of fights you put up. Adam is one of the dumbest minds

4144
04:02:47,840 --> 04:02:51,600
that you could ever platform let alone like do a show with like somebody in

4145
04:02:51,600 --> 04:02:54,960
chat put it the best like these like these guys are like the LeBron James of

4146
04:02:54,960 --> 04:02:57,400
Swipe Bill and Peace goes like this is like this is like the it's the most

4147
04:02:57,400 --> 04:03:01,640
brain rotted fucking centrist both sides do a bleed bullshit. Oh my god, it's so

4148
04:03:01,640 --> 04:03:04,720
cringe. The thing with the left was they weren't growing in cultural power. They

4149
04:03:04,720 --> 04:03:08,400
already had the cultural power. It's a completely different thing because it

4150
04:03:08,400 --> 04:03:11,200
started. Well, the academia was already basically captured by the show. So what

4151
04:03:11,200 --> 04:03:14,400
is it? What is the threat level of the far right versus the threat level of the

4152
04:03:14,400 --> 04:03:17,760
far left like we literally have they feed each other. If you look at every social

4153
04:03:17,760 --> 04:03:20,800
revolution, hold on. No, no, no, no, no. You're dodging so many questions. I'm

4154
04:03:20,800 --> 04:03:23,520
not dodging the question. I'm answering your question. If you look at the history

4155
04:03:23,520 --> 04:03:27,520
of basically every country that's fallen prey to socialism. Okay, and or every

4156
04:03:27,520 --> 04:03:29,800
country that's fallen prey to fascism or some sort of foreign government. It's

4157
04:03:29,800 --> 04:03:34,080
never like, Oh, well, the far left socialists take over and their big opponents

4158
04:03:34,080 --> 04:03:37,320
are just like the evil centrist. There's always like this fucking they always use

4159
04:03:37,320 --> 04:03:40,080
the other extreme side, which is gaining promise in the country as some sort of

4160
04:03:40,080 --> 04:03:42,640
excuse. You know, one of the big reasons you don't want the fucking far right to

4161
04:03:42,640 --> 04:03:45,520
become more senate is because it gives the far left more ability to gain more

4162
04:03:45,520 --> 04:03:47,320
power because they point them and say, look, we have to go stop these fuckers.

4163
04:03:47,440 --> 04:03:49,120
And that's what the far right doing right now is a point of the far left say,

4164
04:03:49,120 --> 04:03:52,240
we have to stop these fuckers. And then the people like me who are like, Hey,

4165
04:03:52,360 --> 04:03:54,840
maybe we shouldn't throw capitalism in democracy into the fucking toilet.

4166
04:03:55,080 --> 04:03:57,800
They go, Oh, sitch, you're cocked because you're actually in favor of capitalism

4167
04:03:57,800 --> 04:04:00,920
in democracy. Okay, this is like, I don't know how you don't fucking see this,

4168
04:04:00,920 --> 04:04:05,240
Adam. Oh, basically every single person in our political space is become completely

4169
04:04:05,240 --> 04:04:09,360
fucking. Oh my God. That's a fucking hilarious comment by shoe on head. The

4170
04:04:09,360 --> 04:04:11,840
Democrats aren't going to do socialism. They're going to do worse. They're going

4171
04:04:11,840 --> 04:04:19,120
to do gay race communism. She's so fucking epic, bro. Oh, man, I also like to close

4172
04:04:19,120 --> 04:04:21,920
my eyes and pretend that I'm living forever in the year 2016.

4173
04:04:22,440 --> 04:04:26,040
King brain rate into supporting either socialism or some kind of like weird

4174
04:04:26,040 --> 04:04:29,200
anti capitalist throat, like almost fascist form of far right far right

4175
04:04:29,200 --> 04:04:31,560
means shit, or they have to kind of like tip toe around that because they know

4176
04:04:31,560 --> 04:04:33,600
the huge chunk of their fucking audience believes that shit. I don't know what

4177
04:04:33,600 --> 04:04:36,120
fucking world you're living in that you don't see that's what's going on in

4178
04:04:36,120 --> 04:04:37,360
a political environment, at least online.

4179
04:04:38,440 --> 04:04:42,480
If the right was perfect angels and there was absolutely no white supremacy,

4180
04:04:42,480 --> 04:04:47,280
no racism at all. Do you think the left would immediately stop using the right

4181
04:04:47,280 --> 04:04:51,040
or with the left just manufacture some infractions and continue to cast them

4182
04:04:51,040 --> 04:04:55,440
as white supremacist Nazis? A lot of them would still get manufactured. Sure.

4183
04:04:56,000 --> 04:04:59,920
Okay. So so the idea that like these guys are so

4184
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:05,680
so online. Like white supremacist Nazis, everybody is literally trapped in like 2016. Like, I'm

4185
04:05:05,680 --> 04:05:10,560
pretty sure the talking points today have to do with ice, and they have to do with the fucking Iran

4186
04:05:10,560 --> 04:05:15,680
war. And then the just the affordability of everything in the United States and Trump family to deal

4187
04:05:15,680 --> 04:05:19,760
with any of that. And then corruption is a huge thing now. Like the idea that every Democrat is

4188
04:05:19,760 --> 04:05:22,880
just screaming white supremacist Nazi, like, I don't know, they're just spending time in online

4189
04:05:22,880 --> 04:05:29,120
spaces. Like, it's this is so cringe. The right is feeding the left. If you're admitting that the

4190
04:05:29,120 --> 04:05:32,960
right could absolutely not do anything to feed the left, and the left would still make the same

4191
04:05:32,960 --> 04:05:36,000
sort of accusations. Doesn't that admit that the left has a problem?

4192
04:05:38,160 --> 04:05:42,880
No, but it's a it's not a unique problem. You're saying both sides and what are we talking about?

4193
04:05:42,880 --> 04:05:47,920
I'm talking about your your yes, the soul is trying to blame the behavior of the left on the right.

4194
04:05:47,920 --> 04:05:51,680
I'm not doing that. You are you're saying that's a possibility. That's part of another reason why

4195
04:05:51,680 --> 04:05:56,560
that this all began with my question about what should be favor the shit. This all began with my

4196
04:05:56,560 --> 04:06:00,640
question about which is the more dangerous faction at the moment. I'm not sure you answered that

4197
04:06:00,640 --> 04:06:04,560
question. You answered that question by saying, Oh, the right is just as dangerous because they're

4198
04:06:04,560 --> 04:06:07,840
the ones that are provoking the left. So I'm pointing out that, look, even if they didn't provoke the

4199
04:06:07,840 --> 04:06:11,840
left, the left would still go fucking insane. Because they're the fucking I feel like I'm talking

4200
04:06:11,840 --> 04:06:15,760
to like, like, you know, peace go on someone who's not paying attention to this.

4201
04:06:17,360 --> 04:06:21,200
Because these guys are going to kill you. These guys on ironically think that like the left is

4202
04:06:21,200 --> 04:06:24,480
on the verge of like a whole communist socialist takeover. They're trying to exercise some huge

4203
04:06:24,480 --> 04:06:28,720
communist socialist takeover in the United States or something. And that it's like taking over the

4204
04:06:28,720 --> 04:06:32,720
entire Democratic Party, basically. They're not near that, but they're they are trying.

4205
04:06:33,760 --> 04:06:38,320
The commies in the social society party. Yeah. Yeah. But they're a minority of the electorate.

4206
04:06:38,320 --> 04:06:42,960
And they're a minority of the party. Yeah. But these guys, like people like Adam think that it's

4207
04:06:42,960 --> 04:06:46,320
like the majority of the at least all the political operatives are all like all the Congressmen are

4208
04:06:46,320 --> 04:06:52,160
secretly fucking socials or communist ever bullshit. I feel like I'm talking to like, like, you know,

4209
04:06:52,160 --> 04:06:55,840
and then they'll always downplay anything bad that the right does is being like, Oh, you know,

4210
04:06:55,840 --> 04:06:59,200
Trump just says legitimate differences in opinion on how, you know, terrorists should work or

4211
04:06:59,200 --> 04:07:03,840
legitimate differences of opinion on isn't Iran bad? But all the left are like, the worst possible

4212
04:07:03,840 --> 04:07:08,000
shit ever. Yeah. Peace go on someone who's not paying attention. Someone like, I thought I'm

4213
04:07:08,000 --> 04:07:10,560
talking to the people who are hutch because they ask us the same fucking question and I would get

4214
04:07:10,560 --> 04:07:14,800
the same answer. They only and they would say it the reverse. They'd say, how can you say that the

4215
04:07:14,800 --> 04:07:17,200
left is more dangerous than the right? I would literally answer the same. I'm answering you,

4216
04:07:17,200 --> 04:07:21,520
which is they're both dangerous in different ways. The left has a lot more cultural power.

4217
04:07:21,520 --> 04:07:27,440
Dodge, total dodge. Okay. You're like, there's different. At this at this point in time, I can't

4218
04:07:27,440 --> 04:07:30,320
tell you which is actually worse because they're actually equally worse, but just in different ways.

4219
04:07:30,320 --> 04:07:34,080
That's your answer. That is your answer. Is that not your answer? Okay, what is your answer?

4220
04:07:34,080 --> 04:07:38,320
Which one is worse? The question is the question is you have to decide which is the bigger threat

4221
04:07:38,320 --> 04:07:41,680
at this point in time. You can't you can't hedge or dodge. You have to come out with your honest

4222
04:07:41,680 --> 04:07:50,080
feelings. What happened? I never thought that you were going to do a full touch piece going

4223
04:07:50,080 --> 04:07:53,680
on me in this conversation. Oh my god. How is this? How is this hutch piece going on?

4224
04:07:53,680 --> 04:07:57,520
I you're literally doing what is hutch piece going on? I told you and then you fucking flip

4225
04:07:57,520 --> 04:08:04,400
out. I literally do it. Literally doing the same fucking thing. They would do every conversation

4226
04:08:04,400 --> 04:08:08,880
or they would say, how can you not see that the right is so much worse? Look, I see that.

4227
04:08:08,880 --> 04:08:12,400
That's not what you guys are doing. That is not what I'm doing. You guys complain about the left

4228
04:08:12,400 --> 04:08:15,520
and all the wokeness. I'm not trying to convince you of my position. I'm just saying, what's your

4229
04:08:15,520 --> 04:08:18,720
position? I'm just saying. You're not trying to convince me? You're right. Every time I get my

4230
04:08:18,720 --> 04:08:22,320
position, you just attack me and say that. Because you have an answer, like, I could not. I could not

4231
04:08:22,320 --> 04:08:26,320
in a million years. I could not go and say this is what your position is. I don't know what your

4232
04:08:26,320 --> 04:08:29,760
position is. I literally just tried to answer it and then you cut me off. You said, I'm going to

4233
04:08:29,760 --> 04:08:33,760
question because I don't accept your fucking false dichotomy. Okay. What kind of bullshit? Like,

4234
04:08:33,760 --> 04:08:35,760
did you beat? You know, it was a lot of times that being your white bullshit question or you're

4235
04:08:35,760 --> 04:08:39,040
trying to throw it on me. Okay. Oh my god. What the fuck? I don't know what the fuck. I don't know

4236
04:08:39,040 --> 04:08:41,760
what the fuck shit in your cereal today. I don't know why you're acting this way. This is fucking

4237
04:08:41,760 --> 04:08:45,200
crazy. But this is why I don't know what the fuck's going on. We're in a good laugh. Like, oh my god,

4238
04:08:45,200 --> 04:08:47,760
like the whole situation is like fucking crazy. I don't know where this fucking came from. Where this

4239
04:08:47,760 --> 04:08:52,000
fucking energy came from. Hold on. What? What energy? What? What? Whatever the fuck this is, this is crazy.

4240
04:08:52,000 --> 04:08:55,360
I feel like I've had a therapy session. You are doing the fucking bullshit that they would

4241
04:08:55,360 --> 04:08:58,720
always do to us. And I'm trying to fucking tell you, I get the same fucking answer. Yeah. The left

4242
04:08:58,720 --> 04:09:02,160
controls the culture and institutions a lot more. And the right is obviously control the fucking

4243
04:09:02,160 --> 04:09:04,640
government a lot more at the moment without being president. Now maybe that will change in the

4244
04:09:04,640 --> 04:09:06,880
midterms and we'll see what happens. I mean, everything's gonna be so fucking real. It doesn't

4245
04:09:06,880 --> 04:09:10,240
fucking matter. But we'll see how that fucking goes. It's just to me, it's fucking stupid that both

4246
04:09:10,240 --> 04:09:13,120
people that you and them are trying to win this fucking weird game where they're like,

4247
04:09:13,120 --> 04:09:16,720
Sitch, you have to choose who is the more you have to clearly say that these are the

4248
04:09:16,720 --> 04:09:20,560
more evil people so that I can mark you on my team. I don't feel comfortable unless PSA

4249
04:09:20,560 --> 04:09:25,600
Sitch clearly is on one fucking team. It's ridiculous. Every fucking thing that I stand for and have

4250
04:09:25,600 --> 04:09:28,640
ever stood for on my career is fucking YouTube. And I don't know why the fuck you're like doing

4251
04:09:28,640 --> 04:09:32,640
this weird shit to me right now. It's fucking weird. That is not remotely what is happening here.

4252
04:09:32,640 --> 04:09:36,160
And you're like, you are definitely not. You think that's what's happening. Oh, I guess I was

4253
04:09:36,160 --> 04:09:39,520
hallucinating for less 20 minutes when you're berating me for not saying that the Democrats

4254
04:09:39,520 --> 04:09:42,720
are unequivocally so much more evil than the Republicans. Sitch, I'll dare you that every time

4255
04:09:42,720 --> 04:09:45,040
I say that the Democrats are doing those bad things, you have to say, well, I think that just

4256
04:09:45,040 --> 04:09:47,360
just sort of human nature and if Republicans are the same thing, oh, you have to say that this is

4257
04:09:47,360 --> 04:09:52,320
uniquely evil in the Democrats. That's not what I did. That's not what I care. For all I care,

4258
04:09:52,320 --> 04:09:56,000
you could come out right now because none of us, it's still none of us know your position.

4259
04:09:56,000 --> 04:09:59,840
I just yeah, your position is they're both equally bad.

4260
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:01,960
- That's your position, right?

4261
04:10:01,960 --> 04:10:03,960
So look, there's three positions that are on the table now.

4262
04:10:03,960 --> 04:10:07,000
There's like, right now, we both agree

4263
04:10:07,000 --> 04:10:08,880
that it's a lesser of two evil situation.

4264
04:10:08,880 --> 04:10:10,960
None of us think there's any angels here, right?

4265
04:10:10,960 --> 04:10:11,960
But there is the position--

4266
04:10:11,960 --> 04:10:14,600
- Well, this is worse, but what's in the way out?

4267
04:10:14,600 --> 04:10:15,940
- Well, sure, but it's also what are we talking about?

4268
04:10:15,940 --> 04:10:18,040
- And the other doesn't have, like,

4269
04:10:18,040 --> 04:10:19,480
stance in the government.

4270
04:10:19,480 --> 04:10:20,320
- Like, I'm big on that--

4271
04:10:20,320 --> 04:10:22,160
- The highest member of the DSA is like AOC.

4272
04:10:22,160 --> 04:10:23,720
- Yeah, I mean, MAGA's on the way out,

4273
04:10:23,720 --> 04:10:25,120
but like, there's still like a big Republican party

4274
04:10:25,120 --> 04:10:27,960
that has to be dealt with, obviously, yeah?

4275
04:10:27,960 --> 04:10:28,800
- Oh, yeah, they need to be dealt with.

4276
04:10:28,800 --> 04:10:30,600
- The Republicans are the lesser of two evils.

4277
04:10:30,600 --> 04:10:31,760
There's a position that the Democrats

4278
04:10:31,760 --> 04:10:34,000
are the lesser of two evils, and there's a position now

4279
04:10:34,000 --> 04:10:35,040
that they're identical.

4280
04:10:35,040 --> 04:10:36,940
They're exactly the same amount of evil.

4281
04:10:36,940 --> 04:10:39,520
And I'm taking the position that the Republicans

4282
04:10:39,520 --> 04:10:41,560
are the lesser of two evils, and you're taking the position

4283
04:10:41,560 --> 04:10:42,720
that I don't want to get it wrong.

4284
04:10:42,720 --> 04:10:44,120
What, three positions, which one is it?

4285
04:10:44,120 --> 04:10:46,360
- I said, I literally told you this before the strain.

4286
04:10:46,360 --> 04:10:48,520
I said, I don't know who's the worst--

4287
04:10:48,520 --> 04:10:50,460
- That's the fourth position on the table.

4288
04:10:50,460 --> 04:10:51,360
I don't know position.

4289
04:10:51,360 --> 04:10:53,520
- Yes, I'm sorry that that's a really big thing.

4290
04:10:53,520 --> 04:10:54,840
- So you have the "I don't know" position.

4291
04:10:54,840 --> 04:10:56,720
- Yes, that I'm agnostic because I don't know

4292
04:10:56,720 --> 04:10:57,960
how it's all gonna turn out.

4293
04:10:57,960 --> 04:10:59,680
- That's fine, look, I'm not trying to bully you

4294
04:10:59,680 --> 04:11:00,520
into a position.

4295
04:11:00,520 --> 04:11:01,960
You're imagining that.

4296
04:11:01,960 --> 04:11:02,800
- Okay.

4297
04:11:02,800 --> 04:11:04,000
- This is like in your imagination.

4298
04:11:04,000 --> 04:11:05,760
I just want to know what your position is.

4299
04:11:05,760 --> 04:11:07,440
- Oh, okay.

4300
04:11:07,440 --> 04:11:09,760
- Yeah, so look, everyone, everyone knows.

4301
04:11:09,760 --> 04:11:10,600
Sit just position now.

4302
04:11:10,600 --> 04:11:12,000
- I think I don't know position.

4303
04:11:12,000 --> 04:11:13,560
- Simple question.

4304
04:11:13,560 --> 04:11:15,280
- You were just curious in my position.

4305
04:11:15,280 --> 04:11:16,120
- Obviously.

4306
04:11:16,120 --> 04:11:16,960
- I was.

4307
04:11:16,960 --> 04:11:17,800
- It was all it was.

4308
04:11:17,800 --> 04:11:20,080
It was just curiosity, of course, okay.

4309
04:11:20,080 --> 04:11:21,840
- Why do you think it's anything more than,

4310
04:11:21,840 --> 04:11:23,760
why, look, Sitch, do you honestly think I--

4311
04:11:23,760 --> 04:11:24,600
- You crazy man, you know.

4312
04:11:24,600 --> 04:11:26,000
- You fucking shit.

4313
04:11:26,000 --> 04:11:29,880
- If your position is that the Republicans are pure evil

4314
04:11:29,880 --> 04:11:30,720
and that the Democrats are--

4315
04:11:30,720 --> 04:11:32,000
- Obviously you do, because we had this fucking

4316
04:11:32,000 --> 04:11:33,360
long conversation before the stream

4317
04:11:33,360 --> 04:11:34,840
and then you intentionally brought it up

4318
04:11:34,840 --> 04:11:36,600
for God knows what's reason on stream again.

4319
04:11:36,600 --> 04:11:38,400
So obviously you do fucking care about it.

4320
04:11:38,400 --> 04:11:40,000
So don't fucking gaslight me and pretend like,

4321
04:11:40,000 --> 04:11:41,760
"Oh no, I just was asking your opinion.

4322
04:11:41,760 --> 04:11:43,640
"I don't know why you're so mad all of a sudden."

4323
04:11:43,640 --> 04:11:45,160
Like, what is this, what are you doing?

4324
04:11:45,160 --> 04:11:46,000
- Oh my God.

4325
04:11:46,000 --> 04:11:46,840
- I don't know what the fuck's happening.

4326
04:11:46,840 --> 04:11:49,000
- Can I put a poll in chat just to ask if people think

4327
04:11:49,000 --> 04:11:51,080
I give two shit what your position is?

4328
04:11:51,080 --> 04:11:51,920
- You can.

4329
04:11:51,920 --> 04:11:53,520
- I honestly don't give two shit what your position is.

4330
04:11:53,520 --> 04:11:55,400
- Okay, why did you ask me?

4331
04:11:55,400 --> 04:11:56,440
You don't give her my position.

4332
04:11:56,440 --> 04:11:57,960
- So I could know your fucking position.

4333
04:11:57,960 --> 04:11:59,080
- You just said you don't care.

4334
04:11:59,080 --> 04:12:00,160
Why do you wanna know it, you don't care?

4335
04:12:00,160 --> 04:12:01,000
I don't understand.

4336
04:12:01,000 --> 04:12:02,160
- Oh my God, do I need to put a poll up for this?

4337
04:12:02,160 --> 04:12:03,600
It's relevant because we have a show going here

4338
04:12:03,600 --> 04:12:04,440
where we talk about politics.

4339
04:12:04,440 --> 04:12:05,280
- So we talked about it for 20 minutes.

4340
04:12:05,280 --> 04:12:06,880
- We found a show going before the stream time.

4341
04:12:06,880 --> 04:12:07,800
- It's why our stream was late.

4342
04:12:07,800 --> 04:12:08,640
- Who is worse?

4343
04:12:08,640 --> 04:12:10,680
- Democrats or Republicans come up all the time.

4344
04:12:10,680 --> 04:12:12,280
It would be nice to know your position.

4345
04:12:12,280 --> 04:12:14,000
It would be, the audience would like to know.

4346
04:12:14,000 --> 04:12:14,840
I would like to know.

4347
04:12:14,840 --> 04:12:15,680
It'd be interesting to know.

4348
04:12:15,680 --> 04:12:16,520
- When on the show--

4349
04:12:16,520 --> 04:12:17,360
- When on the show--

4350
04:12:17,360 --> 04:12:18,200
- I tried to like strong around people

4351
04:12:18,200 --> 04:12:25,400
in a certain way or thinking a certain way.

4352
04:12:25,400 --> 04:12:28,120
I didn't make the argument that because you're in Florida,

4353
04:12:28,120 --> 04:12:29,640
you're kind of a little bit insulated

4354
04:12:29,640 --> 04:12:31,560
from democratic policies 'cause you don't live with them,

4355
04:12:31,560 --> 04:12:34,200
but I wasn't trying to put you over in my position.

4356
04:12:34,200 --> 04:12:35,880
- Maybe I would if you were voting in Los Angeles.

4357
04:12:35,880 --> 04:12:36,920
- You can go back and you can listen to how

4358
04:12:36,920 --> 04:12:38,120
when you would talk about this

4359
04:12:38,120 --> 04:12:38,960
and you bring up living in LA.

4360
04:12:38,960 --> 04:12:39,800
And I'd say, oh, that's fair.

4361
04:12:39,800 --> 04:12:40,880
You know, it makes sense in me, blah, blah, blah, blah.

4362
04:12:40,880 --> 04:12:42,640
And I'm trying to not attack your position.

4363
04:12:42,640 --> 04:12:44,000
And you spent the last, you know, 23 minutes,

4364
04:12:44,000 --> 04:12:45,560
just attacking my position on this.

4365
04:12:45,560 --> 04:12:47,080
And saying I'm dodging the question

4366
04:12:47,080 --> 04:12:48,120
and I'm answering the fucking question.

4367
04:12:48,120 --> 04:12:49,480
After we had a 20, 30 minute conversation

4368
04:12:49,480 --> 04:12:52,320
about this exact topic before the stream even started

4369
04:12:52,320 --> 04:12:53,320
and it was a little contentious,

4370
04:12:53,320 --> 04:12:55,360
it was a little contentious before the stream started.

4371
04:12:55,360 --> 04:12:56,800
And then you sort of like, for no reason--

4372
04:12:56,800 --> 04:12:57,640
- I love it, I love it.

4373
04:12:57,640 --> 04:12:58,480
- Wait, hold on.

4374
04:12:58,480 --> 04:12:59,480
You intentionally bring this up in the stream

4375
04:12:59,480 --> 04:13:00,320
and then you're like--

4376
04:13:00,320 --> 04:13:01,480
- I did not intentionally bring it up.

4377
04:13:01,480 --> 04:13:02,320
- For about some fucking weird--

4378
04:13:02,320 --> 04:13:03,160
It's very weird.

4379
04:13:03,160 --> 04:13:04,000
I don't know what's going on.

4380
04:13:04,000 --> 04:13:05,840
- I did not intentionally bring it up.

4381
04:13:05,840 --> 04:13:09,000
- Oh, so you're like, oh, well, you know, okay, whatever.

4382
04:13:09,000 --> 04:13:09,840
I don't even know.

4383
04:13:09,840 --> 04:13:10,680
- Are you okay?

4384
04:13:10,680 --> 04:13:11,920
- Like, massively gaslighty to me.

4385
04:13:11,920 --> 04:13:13,400
This is like insanely gaslighty.

4386
04:13:14,400 --> 04:13:16,520
- Wait, did you know that Adam, back in the day,

4387
04:13:16,520 --> 04:13:18,480
did a YouTube series about converting his Woke friend

4388
04:13:18,480 --> 04:13:22,440
which ended with his friend calling Adam a Nazi apologist

4389
04:13:22,440 --> 04:13:23,600
and then Adam stopped talking to him.

4390
04:13:23,600 --> 04:13:24,440
- That's true.

4391
04:13:24,440 --> 04:13:25,720
- That's pretty funny of that story.

4392
04:13:25,720 --> 04:13:27,120
- I love the fact that in this conversation,

4393
04:13:27,120 --> 04:13:28,880
it came out that Sitch and I have

4394
04:13:28,880 --> 04:13:31,960
more contentious conversations on stream than off stream,

4395
04:13:31,960 --> 04:13:33,360
which every other person would think

4396
04:13:33,360 --> 04:13:34,400
it would be exactly opposite,

4397
04:13:34,400 --> 04:13:36,360
but you would have the more contentious conversations.

4398
04:13:36,360 --> 04:13:37,600
You know, the difficult conversations,

4399
04:13:37,600 --> 04:13:38,760
you'd have off stream.

4400
04:13:38,760 --> 04:13:43,600
But now, but look, I just, I guess we can move on.

4401
04:13:47,040 --> 04:13:48,120
- Are you going to want to do the rest of the show now?

4402
04:13:48,120 --> 04:13:48,960
- Are you going to make it?

4403
04:13:48,960 --> 04:13:50,120
I mean, we can log off.

4404
04:13:50,120 --> 04:13:53,160
Look, if you have to go, then I understand.

4405
04:13:56,240 --> 04:13:58,200
Oh, look, the chat is like,

4406
04:13:58,200 --> 04:13:59,960
Jesus fucking Christ dropped it, Adam.

4407
04:13:59,960 --> 04:14:01,240
Adam gaslights all the time.

4408
04:14:01,240 --> 04:14:02,080
What is this?

4409
04:14:02,080 --> 04:14:03,080
I'm banning these people here.

4410
04:14:03,080 --> 04:14:04,080
- Oh, no.

4411
04:14:04,080 --> 04:14:05,640
- You're gone.

4412
04:14:06,680 --> 04:14:07,520
Who else here?

4413
04:14:07,520 --> 04:14:09,640
- I like Adam as the one that's like kind of, whatever.

4414
04:14:09,640 --> 04:14:11,840
He's on the offense and then Sitch is the one

4415
04:14:11,840 --> 04:14:13,120
who's like upset right now.

4416
04:14:13,120 --> 04:14:16,040
And now Adam is banning people's sighting with Sitch.

4417
04:14:16,040 --> 04:14:16,880
I'm bad.

4418
04:14:16,880 --> 04:14:19,760
- They're taking my sign.

4419
04:14:19,760 --> 04:14:20,960
- Cause I'm obviously not gaslighting.

4420
04:14:20,960 --> 04:14:21,960
The only reason they're taking your sign

4421
04:14:21,960 --> 04:14:24,520
is because you're falsely accusing me of gaslighting.

4422
04:14:24,520 --> 04:14:25,360
- Of course.

4423
04:14:25,360 --> 04:14:26,680
- And when you're falsely accusing me of gaslighting,

4424
04:14:26,680 --> 04:14:28,040
obviously other people are going to assume

4425
04:14:28,040 --> 04:14:28,880
that I'm gaslighting.

4426
04:14:28,880 --> 04:14:30,560
- I'm surprised you didn't say you're being emotional.

4427
04:14:30,560 --> 04:14:31,840
That's what they're taking your side.

4428
04:14:31,840 --> 04:14:32,720
- Who's next?

4429
04:14:33,720 --> 04:14:34,560
- Oh man.

4430
04:14:36,240 --> 04:14:37,080
Oh man.

4431
04:14:39,840 --> 04:14:40,680
- I don't know.

4432
04:14:40,680 --> 04:14:43,200
- Sitch can go, but Adam needs to say

4433
04:14:43,200 --> 04:14:45,000
because he's on fire.

4434
04:14:45,000 --> 04:14:46,240
Is that a ban or?

4435
04:14:47,600 --> 04:14:49,200
- Why would he read that comment?

4436
04:14:49,200 --> 04:14:50,040
- Oh man.

4437
04:14:50,040 --> 04:14:50,880
- That's what I do to the answer.

4438
04:14:50,880 --> 04:14:51,720
- Yeah true.

4439
04:14:51,720 --> 04:14:52,560
- We need to bring Danny here.

4440
04:14:52,560 --> 04:14:53,400
- He's going to get his go.

4441
04:14:53,400 --> 04:14:55,440
- We got to get to the conversation going.

4442
04:14:55,440 --> 04:14:57,400
- Cottie's needling the fuck out of him.

4443
04:14:59,000 --> 04:15:00,000
- I'm looking at my notes.

4444
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:03,460
I don't know. I had, um, the stuff, which you're not going to care about.

4445
04:15:03,460 --> 04:15:05,900
Cause Oh, who cares if a fake is, uh, you know, using a woman.

4446
04:15:05,900 --> 04:15:07,060
Actually, that's right.

4447
04:15:07,060 --> 04:15:10,860
And that's, look, that's, that's actually, that actually does make me angry because

4448
04:15:10,860 --> 04:15:14,060
you're completely mischaracterizing my position, which you know is a lie.

4449
04:15:14,780 --> 04:15:15,380
I don't know what your position is.

4450
04:15:15,380 --> 04:15:16,900
I, I'm just guessing it's going to be praying to this.

4451
04:15:16,980 --> 04:15:18,260
You know, why?

4452
04:15:18,260 --> 04:15:20,300
Because don't make me bring the Democrats or let it be.

4453
04:15:20,700 --> 04:15:21,940
Don't make me bring up the DMS.

4454
04:15:22,140 --> 04:15:25,300
Uh, oh, where you, where you, I said, but that gives a piece of shit and I've been

4455
04:15:25,300 --> 04:15:25,940
saying it forever.

4456
04:15:26,140 --> 04:15:28,020
So much of a brought up as an example.

4457
04:15:28,020 --> 04:15:30,500
And it would be that problem, are you, are you mad?

4458
04:15:30,500 --> 04:15:31,820
Because you think I was turning chat against you.

4459
04:15:31,980 --> 04:15:32,780
Is that what you're mad about?

4460
04:15:33,540 --> 04:15:34,080
Well, that's part of it.

4461
04:15:34,080 --> 04:15:34,380
Sure.

4462
04:15:35,380 --> 04:15:35,820
Oh, okay.

4463
04:15:36,820 --> 04:15:39,560
Why didn't know you'd have such a hard time just saying your position.

4464
04:15:39,580 --> 04:15:40,180
There it is.

4465
04:15:40,180 --> 04:15:41,460
Oh.

4466
04:15:42,940 --> 04:15:44,100
You can't do care about the Vivek situation.

4467
04:15:44,100 --> 04:15:44,540
Does that matter?

4468
04:15:44,540 --> 04:15:45,420
I don't, I honestly don't know.

4469
04:15:45,780 --> 04:15:46,280
Does that matter?

4470
04:15:46,280 --> 04:15:49,440
Like, no, I sent you a, I say the fake sucks.

4471
04:15:49,460 --> 04:15:50,180
We never like a thing.

4472
04:15:50,700 --> 04:15:50,900
Yeah.

4473
04:15:50,900 --> 04:15:52,820
I hate his guts, but I do think it's, I mean, I think it's interesting.

4474
04:15:52,820 --> 04:15:53,700
I think he's totally fucked up.

4475
04:15:54,100 --> 04:15:56,300
I think it's interesting from a political perspective, but he doesn't care.

4476
04:15:56,860 --> 04:15:57,260
Just say it.

4477
04:15:57,260 --> 04:15:57,600
You don't care.

4478
04:15:57,600 --> 04:15:58,820
There's a kind of seven situation.

4479
04:15:58,820 --> 04:15:59,980
There's all the riots in France.

4480
04:16:00,140 --> 04:16:01,620
Yeah, I'm, I look, I'm fine.

4481
04:16:02,220 --> 04:16:04,260
Uh, there's some weird Ukraine updates.

4482
04:16:04,260 --> 04:16:06,260
I mean, I'm ready to ask, like, just cry over fights.

4483
04:16:06,260 --> 04:16:08,580
Like where this ranks and like, do you hear?

4484
04:16:08,580 --> 04:16:09,540
And then why are you crying?

4485
04:16:10,420 --> 04:16:14,160
Oh, no, people, I don't know people like when we fight, but I don't know.

4486
04:16:14,260 --> 04:16:17,660
No, people hate it when we fight, but look, as soon as like you go, you become

4487
04:16:17,660 --> 04:16:21,260
destiny, as soon as we start fighting, going to complete bad faith mode, you

4488
04:16:21,260 --> 04:16:24,140
start, look, I'm, I'm telling you, all of chat is saying that I'm gaslighting

4489
04:16:24,360 --> 04:16:26,780
because you're accusing me of gaslighting, which I've been nothing but good faith

4490
04:16:26,780 --> 04:16:27,780
in this entire conversation.

4491
04:16:27,900 --> 04:16:31,340
So the gaslighting is I will say this.

4492
04:16:31,780 --> 04:16:36,220
I will try to see this out of, I hate the fact I hate the fact that we had a

4493
04:16:36,220 --> 04:16:37,780
good in interaction with, wait, I'm sorry.

4494
04:16:37,780 --> 04:16:38,420
Hold on real quick.

4495
04:16:38,420 --> 04:16:40,620
Can somebody link me our last fight?

4496
04:16:40,620 --> 04:16:43,020
What was the fight that ended my relationship with these guys?

4497
04:16:43,060 --> 04:16:43,260
Okay.

4498
04:16:43,260 --> 04:16:45,580
Because like literally I would ban you for that super chat right now.

4499
04:16:46,460 --> 04:16:47,660
Oh, wait, hold on.

4500
04:16:47,660 --> 04:16:47,860
What?

4501
04:16:47,920 --> 04:16:52,460
Once this I will try to see this out of, I hate the fact, I hate the fact that we

4502
04:16:52,460 --> 04:16:56,100
had a good in interaction with the rock because like literally I would ban you

4503
04:16:56,100 --> 04:16:57,100
for that super chat right now.

4504
04:16:58,180 --> 04:17:02,180
His super chat was, I'm usually on Adam's side, but I agree with Sitch for $10.

4505
04:17:05,620 --> 04:17:08,780
How are you the rock, but Adam, how, how can you say that just because someone

4506
04:17:08,780 --> 04:17:12,380
agrees with me in the conversation that they're wrong or that should be banned

4507
04:17:12,500 --> 04:17:16,700
before having a because I, because I myself know that I'm not gaslighting you,

4508
04:17:16,820 --> 04:17:23,980
that I'm not being bad faith that I don't give a fuck what your position is.

4509
04:17:24,060 --> 04:17:25,340
And then I just wanted to know your position.

4510
04:17:25,700 --> 04:17:29,740
So you accusing me of like trying to be incendiary.

4511
04:17:29,740 --> 04:17:32,460
Just when I'm trying to figure out your position is the ultimate destiny,

4512
04:17:32,580 --> 04:17:33,860
bad faith, bullshit move.

4513
04:17:34,260 --> 04:17:37,020
And the only reason people in chat are agreeing with you is because you're

4514
04:17:37,020 --> 04:17:38,540
accusing me of basically lying.

4515
04:17:38,820 --> 04:17:41,740
So yeah, if you're calling me a liar, like, I was supposed to even have a good

4516
04:17:41,740 --> 04:17:42,340
thing in conversation.

4517
04:17:44,740 --> 04:17:46,180
Was it this three years ago?

4518
04:17:46,180 --> 04:17:50,900
Was this the last one was again, what, what, uh, I'm sorry, pondering.

4519
04:17:50,900 --> 04:17:51,580
What do you say you want to say?

4520
04:17:51,580 --> 04:17:53,300
You call me just, just, I, just, I, okay.

4521
04:17:53,300 --> 04:17:53,580
Yeah.

4522
04:17:53,580 --> 04:17:56,580
Um, one thing that got us off on this tweet that I don't put out, which is that, you

4523
04:17:56,580 --> 04:17:59,820
know, can, if you're just calling Trump a fascist, okay, is that, what is that?

4524
04:17:59,820 --> 04:18:02,380
If you don't give any sort of explanation or understanding of why people are

4525
04:18:02,380 --> 04:18:04,740
voting for Trump and I'll use you label him a fascist, obviously, I think,

4526
04:18:04,780 --> 04:18:07,540
that's going to lead people in your audience to assume that people voting for

4527
04:18:07,540 --> 04:18:09,260
him are voting for him because they want the fascist.

4528
04:18:09,340 --> 04:18:10,940
And therefore there's no way to convince those people.

4529
04:18:10,980 --> 04:18:13,220
There's no way to win those people were in a debate or in a conversation.

4530
04:18:13,260 --> 04:18:15,140
And the only alternative is through violence.

4531
04:18:15,180 --> 04:18:17,100
I agree that it's bad for a historical strategy, which I don't do it, but

4532
04:18:17,100 --> 04:18:18,020
everything you just said is true.

4533
04:18:18,060 --> 04:18:19,820
People that support Donald Trump do support fascism.

4534
04:18:19,820 --> 04:18:20,740
They're just stupid to realize it.

4535
04:18:20,820 --> 04:18:22,260
That is absolutely a factual matter.

4536
04:18:22,380 --> 04:18:26,020
Okay, so at this point, I would argue I've been fully vindicated on it, but okay.

4537
04:18:26,220 --> 04:18:29,060
So at that point, we're just have to defeat these people through physical

4538
04:18:29,060 --> 04:18:29,340
combat.

4539
04:18:29,340 --> 04:18:31,260
If not necessarily, I think that our institutions still exists quite

4540
04:18:31,260 --> 04:18:33,700
strongly in stupid way to win them over in a political fight.

4541
04:18:33,900 --> 04:18:35,100
Generally known as I don't usually call them stupid.

4542
04:18:35,460 --> 04:18:35,660
Okay.

4543
04:18:35,660 --> 04:18:36,460
Well, you just did.

4544
04:18:36,660 --> 04:18:37,980
I did now because I'm having a frank conversation.

4545
04:18:37,980 --> 04:18:38,780
I will have a frank conversation.

4546
04:18:38,780 --> 04:18:40,140
The way that I feel to Republicans, you call it empathy.

4547
04:18:40,140 --> 04:18:41,340
I call it treating people like retarded four year olds.

4548
04:18:41,420 --> 04:18:42,260
That's how I reach a conservative.

4549
04:18:42,260 --> 04:18:43,180
I've got to be incredibly patient.

4550
04:18:43,180 --> 04:18:43,900
I have to be incredibly kind.

4551
04:18:43,900 --> 04:18:44,260
I can't even pretend.

4552
04:18:44,260 --> 04:18:45,260
I can't even pretend I'm not a son.

4553
04:18:45,420 --> 04:18:47,740
It is kind of because they don't believe in vaccines.

4554
04:18:47,740 --> 04:18:53,060
They don't believe in climate change, they don't believe in science, they don't believe in academia, they don't think you want to move, they don't think you like to treat these people.

4555
04:18:54,140 --> 04:18:54,940
But yeah, you treat them like that.

4556
04:18:54,940 --> 04:18:56,540
You can be patient, you can be empathetic, you do what you can.

4557
04:18:56,540 --> 04:18:58,380
But at the end of the day, I believe in the things that I do for good reason.

4558
04:18:58,380 --> 04:19:01,420
And it's not like I'm going to say to pretend that me and the conservative have the same factual standing on every single issue.

4559
04:19:01,420 --> 04:19:02,060
That's insane.

4560
04:19:02,060 --> 04:19:03,820
But it's literally the party of like science denialism.

4561
04:19:03,820 --> 04:19:05,220
How do people leave the earth at 6,000 years old?

4562
04:19:05,220 --> 04:19:06,020
Oh my god.

4563
04:19:06,020 --> 04:19:07,020
This was before R.K.

4564
04:19:07,020 --> 04:19:08,340
Jr. is here and put in by the way.

4565
04:19:08,540 --> 04:19:09,060
It's not real.

4566
04:19:09,060 --> 04:19:11,420
Like I was taking seriously in some kind of scientific or factual sense.

4567
04:19:11,780 --> 04:19:13,100
There's also situational rhetoric.

4568
04:19:17,740 --> 04:19:24,620
Having a conversation with a conservative or conservative voter instead of trying to appeal to them and apply some situational empathy, whatever, you should just call them fascist or fascistic supporters.

4569
04:19:24,620 --> 04:19:25,980
Yeah, that would be incredibly stupid.

4570
04:19:25,980 --> 04:19:27,380
But again, it's about situational rhetoric.

4571
04:19:27,380 --> 04:19:29,820
These people are also speaking to an audience much like yourself, right?

4572
04:19:29,820 --> 04:19:36,660
And so it makes sense that in certain contexts, they would describe the Republican party as they just genuinely, bluntly understand it.

4573
04:19:36,660 --> 04:19:40,980
And then when they're face to face with a Republican voter, they may say something else or they may couch the language or use different rhetoric.

4574
04:19:40,980 --> 04:19:42,220
I don't think that number one, I don't think that's hypocritical.

4575
04:19:42,220 --> 04:19:44,420
Number two, I don't think that that's anything unique to the left or unusual.

4576
04:19:44,420 --> 04:19:45,660
I'm so confused.

4577
04:19:45,660 --> 04:19:51,180
To me, I just don't understand what the issue is here and I honestly don't think that we disagree too much.

4578
04:19:51,180 --> 04:19:56,340
Because again, Stephen and I also agree that it would be bad to just vilify wholesale Republican voters nonstop.

4579
04:19:56,340 --> 04:19:57,700
But then it seemed like the goal post was being moved.

4580
04:19:57,700 --> 04:19:59,740
Can I just take one point and then we can go move a question?

4581
04:20:00,000 --> 04:20:01,240
>> I need to respond to a statement like this.

4582
04:20:01,240 --> 04:20:02,500
>> You can, but let me just make my point real quick.

4583
04:20:02,500 --> 04:20:03,340
It won't take long.

4584
04:20:03,340 --> 04:20:06,580
Destiny, you understand if you have a conversation

4585
04:20:06,580 --> 04:20:09,060
about black crime, you're going to have to be very

4586
04:20:09,060 --> 04:20:10,920
sensitive in that conversation because you don't want

4587
04:20:10,920 --> 04:20:13,460
to create a stereotype, a negative stereotype,

4588
04:20:13,460 --> 04:20:15,660
and all blacks are criminals, okay?

4589
04:20:15,660 --> 04:20:18,220
>> Oh, this is a cherry pen, I just realized.

4590
04:20:18,220 --> 04:20:21,500
>> But all I'm saying is, your response there,

4591
04:20:21,500 --> 04:20:24,540
someone could look at and say what Destiny is saying is,

4592
04:20:24,540 --> 04:20:26,940
all conservatives are retarded.

4593
04:20:26,940 --> 04:20:28,900
That would create a stereotype of conservatives

4594
04:20:28,900 --> 04:20:31,100
being retarded, which I think is unhelpful.

4595
04:20:31,100 --> 04:20:33,020
>> I agree, it doesn't help with what they were,

4596
04:20:33,020 --> 04:20:34,100
I understand what you're saying.

4597
04:20:34,100 --> 04:20:35,660
>> Hold on, let me be clear, are you saying all

4598
04:20:35,660 --> 04:20:36,500
conservatives are retarded?

4599
04:20:36,500 --> 04:20:38,140
>> If you support Donald Trump, you either have

4600
04:20:38,140 --> 04:20:40,060
a mental disability or you need anti-psychotics, yes.

4601
04:20:40,060 --> 04:20:41,320
If you support Donald Trump, there's something wrong

4602
04:20:41,320 --> 04:20:42,580
with you, or you're an American.

4603
04:20:42,580 --> 04:20:43,820
>> There are plenty of net, there are plenty of

4604
04:20:43,820 --> 04:20:45,020
never-Trumpers, there are plenty of conservatives

4605
04:20:45,020 --> 04:20:46,460
that didn't support Trump, there are plenty of conservatives.

4606
04:20:46,460 --> 04:20:47,460
>> Sure, and there are probably some conservatives

4607
04:20:47,460 --> 04:20:48,700
that probably I would agree with more than,

4608
04:20:48,700 --> 04:20:50,300
especially progressives these days, it's possible, sure.

4609
04:20:50,300 --> 04:20:51,100
>> Okay, well you're throwing those

4610
04:20:51,100 --> 04:20:51,940
conservatives under the bus.

4611
04:20:51,940 --> 04:20:52,900
>> No, hold on, this whole time I've

4612
04:20:52,900 --> 04:21:06,280
been explicitly talking about Donald Trump supporters.

4613
04:21:06,280 --> 04:21:07,300
The reason why I'm able to make any headway,

4614
04:21:07,300 --> 04:21:08,300
when you talk about black crimes, because actually

4615
04:21:08,300 --> 04:21:09,460
I am willing to own uncomfortable positions.

4616
04:21:09,460 --> 04:21:10,580
Black people do commit more crime than other people

4617
04:21:10,580 --> 04:21:11,580
in the United States, and you can play the

4618
04:21:11,580 --> 04:21:12,860
games of like, oh, it's all institutional bias

4619
04:21:12,860 --> 04:21:14,060
and it's systemic racism, blah, blah, blah, blah.

4620
04:21:14,060 --> 04:21:14,900
And like, yeah, this thing's factored,

4621
04:21:14,900 --> 04:21:16,500
they're not willing to admit that black people

4622
04:21:16,500 --> 04:21:17,660
do commit more crime than other races in this country,

4623
04:21:17,660 --> 04:21:18,740
you can't even get the conversation off the ground.

4624
04:21:18,740 --> 04:21:19,860
And people see me, so you're surrounded

4625
04:21:19,860 --> 04:21:20,700
with about the stereotype.

4626
04:21:20,700 --> 04:21:22,660
I sense it, but that doesn't keep me from owning the fact.

4627
04:21:22,660 --> 04:21:23,660
And people on the right appreciate that.

4628
04:21:23,660 --> 04:21:24,700
They're like, wow, that's so harsh.

4629
04:21:24,700 --> 04:21:26,140
But then as soon as I start criticizing somebody,

4630
04:21:26,140 --> 04:21:27,300
it doesn't believe in dinosaurs, what does

4631
04:21:27,300 --> 04:21:28,140
the climate change is real?

4632
04:21:28,140 --> 04:21:29,980
Well, Confinix is clearly melting into the earth.

4633
04:21:29,980 --> 04:21:31,980
Like, no, I think at some point, I agree.

4634
04:21:31,980 --> 04:21:33,580
You can't be mean to people, and I try to be nice people,

4635
04:21:33,580 --> 04:21:34,900
and I go on shows, I'm nice, and I'm kind of blah, blah,

4636
04:21:34,900 --> 04:21:36,020
but that doesn't mean you can't ever say like,

4637
04:21:36,020 --> 04:21:37,060
yeah, listen, if you support Donald Trump,

4638
04:21:37,060 --> 04:21:37,980
you're kind of supporting a fascist.

4639
04:21:37,980 --> 04:21:39,140
Maybe that's some behavior that's worth analyzing,

4640
04:21:39,140 --> 04:21:39,980
or worth reflecting on.

4641
04:21:39,980 --> 04:21:40,820
I just don't say it just.

4642
04:21:40,820 --> 04:21:44,540
>> Well, I hate to go in the what aboutism range,

4643
04:21:44,540 --> 04:21:45,980
but just the whole, there's been a lot

4644
04:21:45,980 --> 04:21:53,860
of science denialism on the right historically,

4645
04:21:53,860 --> 04:21:54,980
the left's position broadly, there's a bunch

4646
04:21:54,980 --> 04:21:56,780
of people left that believe in this blank slate insanity,

4647
04:21:56,780 --> 04:21:58,340
the bunch of people left that do not believe in evolution

4648
04:21:58,340 --> 04:21:59,700
in terms of that evolution has any effect

4649
04:21:59,700 --> 04:22:00,540
on people's behavior.

4650
04:22:00,540 --> 04:22:01,580
>> Oh my God.

4651
04:22:01,580 --> 04:22:02,940
>> So I just don't like to have a position

4652
04:22:02,940 --> 04:22:04,300
that's just one side that doesn't believe in science.

4653
04:22:04,300 --> 04:22:07,580
>> There are definitely some things that the left gets

4654
04:22:07,580 --> 04:22:08,900
wrong on science denialism or whatever,

4655
04:22:08,900 --> 04:22:10,700
I'm sure, but it is not even remotely comparable.

4656
04:22:10,700 --> 04:22:12,540
They live in different worlds of factual denialism.

4657
04:22:12,540 --> 04:22:13,700
It's not even close.

4658
04:22:13,700 --> 04:22:14,220
That's true.

4659
04:22:14,220 --> 04:22:16,180
>> I don't want to start with you for closing.

4660
04:22:16,180 --> 04:22:17,180
>> You're wrong, boy, you're wrong.

4661
04:22:17,180 --> 04:22:18,020
>> You're wrong, dipshit.

4662
04:22:18,020 --> 04:22:19,060
>> We'll start with Adam.

4663
04:22:19,060 --> 04:22:19,740
>> Oh, yeah, I mean.

4664
04:22:19,740 --> 04:22:21,020
>> A closing statement in shout out.

4665
04:22:21,020 --> 04:22:22,420
>> I didn't prepare a closing statement.

4666
04:22:22,420 --> 04:22:23,860
>> Restyle, baby.

4667
04:22:23,860 --> 04:22:25,780
>> That's going to be super cool if you didn't call

4668
04:22:25,780 --> 04:22:27,580
us a right-wing podcast, we're not a right-wing podcast.

4669
04:22:27,580 --> 04:22:30,380
I believe in self-ID when it comes to your political

4670
04:22:30,380 --> 04:22:32,340
orientation, just like your sexual orientation.

4671
04:22:32,340 --> 04:22:34,300
I think people should be able to pick it for themselves.

4672
04:22:34,300 --> 04:22:35,060
So I'll just end it up.

4673
04:22:35,060 --> 04:22:35,580
>> Really?

4674
04:22:35,580 --> 04:22:37,220
>> Yeah, I don't think you guys are right-wing show.

4675
04:22:37,220 --> 04:22:38,860
If I had to guess, was this like a recent label

4676
04:22:38,860 --> 04:22:40,100
within the past month that happened?

4677
04:22:40,100 --> 04:22:45,900
>> I don't think you've been actually very good about it, I think August, your editor uploaded something calling us a right-wing podcast, and it could have been totally an innocent message.

4678
04:22:45,900 --> 04:22:52,340
>> My guess is going to be if he did it, it was probably because everybody was saying that, oh, that Anna Casparian won on a right-wing podcast, was that the episode that I covered?

4679
04:22:52,340 --> 04:22:56,620
>> This was long before the Anna Casparian thing, but obviously, Anna Casparian right-winger now.

4680
04:22:56,620 --> 04:22:59,020
>> I don't know why I got somebody fucked up.

4681
04:22:59,020 --> 04:23:00,580
>> That's okay, thank you for acknowledging it.

4682
04:23:00,580 --> 04:23:06,420
We cover a lot of your stuff, Destiny, because I really like the direction you're going, so a lot of this stuff here, I think we could talk about more.

4683
04:23:06,420 --> 04:23:09,740
>> This was when I was on my building bridges with conservators arc, oh God.

4684
04:23:09,740 --> 04:23:12,940
>> I think you're wrong about half of it, but- >> Sure, yeah.

4685
04:23:12,940 --> 04:23:14,660
>> And is that your finishing statement?

4686
04:23:14,660 --> 04:23:15,660
>> Oh, okay.

4687
04:23:15,660 --> 04:23:18,980
I thought there was a more explosive blowout somewhere, and then they were like, "He's bad faith and we're talking again."

4688
04:23:18,980 --> 04:23:21,900
Fuck, maybe it wasn't this.

4689
04:23:21,900 --> 04:23:25,700
>> Well, I mean, if they cut you off for that, you should have been meaner.

4690
04:23:25,700 --> 04:23:26,940
>> God- >> Bet him ill.

4691
04:23:26,940 --> 04:23:28,460
>> Bruh.

4692
04:23:28,460 --> 04:23:30,380
>> He's- >> Bruh.

4693
04:23:30,380 --> 04:23:32,380
>> Unstoppable.

4694
04:23:32,380 --> 04:23:33,500
>> Who?

4695
04:23:33,500 --> 04:23:36,620
>> Who do you think? >> Benjamin Netanyahu, he's inevitable.

4696
04:23:36,620 --> 04:23:39,100
>> He is inevitable.

4697
04:23:39,100 --> 04:23:41,980
>> Just accept that this is what they want, man.

4698
04:23:41,980 --> 04:23:44,540
They want him, get over it.

4699
04:23:44,540 --> 04:23:45,900
They love him.

4700
04:23:51,420 --> 04:23:52,780
>> Okay.

4701
04:23:52,780 --> 04:23:55,020
>> Stop caring about the Jews, man.

4702
04:23:55,020 --> 04:23:58,060
>> What do you think I'm doing here? Why do you think I'm bringing this up?

4703
04:23:58,060 --> 04:24:03,660
Do you think I'm realizing that I'm trying to win you over to some kind of position?

4704
04:24:03,660 --> 04:24:04,940
Like, why would I fucking care?

4705
04:24:04,940 --> 04:24:07,260
>> I don't know why you're bringing it up. I don't know the answer to the question.

4706
04:24:07,260 --> 04:24:09,420
That's why I was making it up so I'm like, "I don't know why he's bringing this up. I don't know why he's-

4707
04:24:09,420 --> 04:24:13,500
>> Look, you could honestly just believe what I tell you the reason I brought it up.

4708
04:24:13,500 --> 04:24:15,100
Because I wanted to know your position.

4709
04:24:15,100 --> 04:24:17,180
What is so hard about- >> Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

4710
04:24:17,180 --> 04:24:19,500
>> I had to address this gaslighting thing.

4711
04:24:19,500 --> 04:24:20,380
>> Okay.

4712
04:24:20,380 --> 04:24:23,420
>> I don't- Maybe you just- I think you don't even realize what you're doing.

4713
04:24:23,420 --> 04:24:26,860
You do this very often when we get into these sort of debates where we're getting heated,

4714
04:24:26,860 --> 04:24:30,300
where you're like very clearly care about something or pushing something.

4715
04:24:30,300 --> 04:24:32,780
And then when I blow up, you're like, "Well, I don't care."

4716
04:24:32,780 --> 04:24:34,940
And it's like, but you clearly did care at that moment.

4717
04:24:34,940 --> 04:24:37,660
And that's why people are reacting to when I say gaslighting.

4718
04:24:37,660 --> 04:24:38,700
Maybe I should use the phrase gaslighting.

4719
04:24:38,700 --> 04:24:39,660
But it's like, and that's fine.

4720
04:24:39,660 --> 04:24:41,500
Like if you don't want care, because for whatever reason,

4721
04:24:41,500 --> 04:24:43,260
but it's very clear that you did care at the moment.

4722
04:24:43,260 --> 04:24:45,740
And it's very clear at the moment that you are trying to convince me of something,

4723
04:24:45,740 --> 04:24:47,420
or convince a child of something, or argue something.

4724
04:24:47,420 --> 04:24:48,380
So just, that's fine.

4725
04:24:48,380 --> 04:24:49,980
Just don't afterwards say, "Oh, I don't care whatever."

4726
04:24:49,980 --> 04:24:52,540
You know, that was never my intention, because it was, okay?

4727
04:24:55,740 --> 04:24:56,300
>> Oh my God.

4728
04:24:58,220 --> 04:24:59,660
>> Oh, does it respond to anything you said?

4729
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:00,840
- Oh.

4730
04:25:00,840 --> 04:25:02,360
- That's like, that's just so weird.

4731
04:25:02,360 --> 04:25:03,200
That's so weird.

4732
04:25:03,200 --> 04:25:04,560
(laughing)

4733
04:25:04,560 --> 04:25:05,400
- Okay, calm weird.

4734
04:25:05,400 --> 04:25:06,880
- You're like, you're basically saying.

4735
04:25:06,880 --> 04:25:07,720
- And now wait.

4736
04:25:07,720 --> 04:25:09,560
- You don't know what's going on inside your own head.

4737
04:25:09,560 --> 04:25:11,360
(laughing)

4738
04:25:11,360 --> 04:25:12,920
- These guys are kings, dude.

4739
04:25:14,880 --> 04:25:19,040
- I think my favorite dynamic, my favorite human dynamic,

4740
04:25:19,040 --> 04:25:20,440
and I'm sure I've probably done this in relationships,

4741
04:25:20,440 --> 04:25:22,920
is when one person is like very clearly like reaching out

4742
04:25:22,920 --> 04:25:25,280
for some type of empathy or understanding,

4743
04:25:25,280 --> 04:25:28,560
but the other person is in like protect the ego mode.

4744
04:25:28,560 --> 04:25:30,560
So every time the other person is reaching out

4745
04:25:30,560 --> 04:25:31,680
for some type of understanding,

4746
04:25:31,680 --> 04:25:34,280
the other person perceives it and translates it as an attack.

4747
04:25:34,280 --> 04:25:35,600
And that has to be defensive about it,

4748
04:25:35,600 --> 04:25:37,320
which just comes off as an attack.

4749
04:25:37,320 --> 04:25:39,600
This is like the, this is peak human interaction right here.

4750
04:25:39,600 --> 04:25:41,600
We kind of watch this a little,

4751
04:25:41,600 --> 04:25:43,880
I wanna say this kind of with Ethan and Tricia

4752
04:25:43,880 --> 04:25:45,600
a little bit earlier, almost like that, yeah.

4753
04:25:45,600 --> 04:25:47,660
This is peak, this is a peak human drama.

4754
04:25:48,760 --> 04:25:49,600
- I do.

4755
04:25:49,600 --> 04:25:51,160
I know what's going on inside your head.

4756
04:25:51,160 --> 04:25:53,080
Here's my perception of what's going on inside your head,

4757
04:25:53,080 --> 04:25:54,640
and you're wrong.

4758
04:25:54,640 --> 04:25:56,320
This is what you're doing.

4759
04:25:56,320 --> 04:25:59,600
- Oh, okay, okay, that's, yeah, you guessed it.

4760
04:25:59,600 --> 04:26:01,120
I'm glad you can read minds all this time.

4761
04:26:01,120 --> 04:26:02,040
You said you couldn't read minds, but-

4762
04:26:02,040 --> 04:26:03,520
- Like I don't even think that's what-

4763
04:26:03,520 --> 04:26:04,360
- Let me realistically-

4764
04:26:04,360 --> 04:26:05,680
- He wasn't even trying to find anything.

4765
04:26:05,680 --> 04:26:07,000
- I had to address his gaslighting thing.

4766
04:26:07,000 --> 04:26:07,840
- Okay, okay.

4767
04:26:07,840 --> 04:26:08,840
- You, I don't, maybe you just,

4768
04:26:08,840 --> 04:26:10,440
I think you don't even realize what you're doing.

4769
04:26:10,440 --> 04:26:12,560
You do this very often when we get into these sort of

4770
04:26:12,560 --> 04:26:14,000
debates where we're getting heated,

4771
04:26:14,000 --> 04:26:16,400
where you're like very clearly care about something

4772
04:26:16,400 --> 04:26:17,400
or pushing something.

4773
04:26:17,400 --> 04:26:19,920
And then when I blow up, you're like, well, I don't care.

4774
04:26:19,920 --> 04:26:22,080
And it's like, but you clearly did care at that moment.

4775
04:26:22,080 --> 04:26:24,760
And that's why people are reacting to when I say gaslighting.

4776
04:26:24,760 --> 04:26:26,240
Maybe I should use the phrase gaslighting, but it's like,

4777
04:26:26,240 --> 04:26:27,080
and that's fine.

4778
04:26:27,080 --> 04:26:27,960
Like if you don't say like you don't want care

4779
04:26:27,960 --> 04:26:28,800
because for whatever reason,

4780
04:26:28,800 --> 04:26:30,720
but it's very clear that you did care at that moment.

4781
04:26:30,720 --> 04:26:34,880
- It's also really sad because Sitch is still trying to carve out,

4782
04:26:34,880 --> 04:26:37,640
like he's still trying to be considerate of Adam's ego here

4783
04:26:37,640 --> 04:26:41,080
'cause he's trying to carve out like multiple escapes

4784
04:26:41,080 --> 04:26:43,760
where it's like, maybe I shouldn't say gaslighting

4785
04:26:43,760 --> 04:26:45,920
or maybe you didn't care, but that's how the audience,

4786
04:26:45,920 --> 04:26:48,240
like he's giving these little like steps off of this.

4787
04:26:48,240 --> 04:26:49,800
So it doesn't matter, kind of, yeah.

4788
04:26:49,800 --> 04:26:51,600
- Very clear at the moment that you are trying to convince

4789
04:26:51,600 --> 04:26:53,080
me of something or convince a chat of something

4790
04:26:53,080 --> 04:26:53,920
or argue something.

4791
04:26:53,920 --> 04:26:55,640
You're just, that's fine, just don't afterwards say like,

4792
04:26:55,640 --> 04:26:57,800
oh, I don't care, whatever, that was never my intention

4793
04:26:57,800 --> 04:26:59,120
'cause it was, okay?

4794
04:27:01,440 --> 04:27:03,240
- Yeah, so the complaint of like after these big fights,

4795
04:27:03,240 --> 04:27:04,720
I go, I don't even care about this thing who cares,

4796
04:27:04,720 --> 04:27:06,520
but then Adam's response is just for it.

4797
04:27:06,520 --> 04:27:07,360
- Oh my God.

4798
04:27:11,640 --> 04:27:13,240
- That's like, that's just so weird.

4799
04:27:13,240 --> 04:27:14,400
That's so weird, okay.

4800
04:27:16,200 --> 04:27:18,080
You're like, you're basically saying,

4801
04:27:18,080 --> 04:27:20,520
Adam, you don't know what's going on inside your own head.

4802
04:27:20,520 --> 04:27:22,920
I do, I know what's going on inside your head.

4803
04:27:22,920 --> 04:27:24,840
Here's my perception of what's going on inside your head

4804
04:27:24,840 --> 04:27:26,440
and you're wrong.

4805
04:27:26,440 --> 04:27:29,640
This is what you're doing.

4806
04:27:30,880 --> 04:27:33,600
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, you guessed it.

4807
04:27:33,600 --> 04:27:35,120
I'm glad you can read minds all this time.

4808
04:27:35,120 --> 04:27:35,960
You said you couldn't read minds,

4809
04:27:35,960 --> 04:27:36,800
but it's not questionable.

4810
04:27:36,800 --> 04:27:37,640
- It's not questionable.

4811
04:27:37,640 --> 04:27:38,520
- You can read my mind.

4812
04:27:38,520 --> 04:27:39,360
- Okay.

4813
04:27:42,840 --> 04:27:45,080
- Yeah, Stitch Lost, what do you want me to say?

4814
04:27:46,920 --> 04:27:48,600
- You don't, you got Adam'd.

4815
04:27:50,600 --> 04:27:52,600
- So Stitch left the show.

4816
04:27:52,600 --> 04:27:53,440
- Oh, he left.

4817
04:27:53,440 --> 04:27:54,280
- Oh, he didn't.

4818
04:27:54,280 --> 04:27:55,280
- He's still here, so.

4819
04:27:55,280 --> 04:27:56,280
- Awkward.

4820
04:27:57,840 --> 04:27:58,680
- Okay.

4821
04:28:03,160 --> 04:28:05,120
- Yeah, I guess she's in here, you know, I don't know.

4822
04:28:05,120 --> 04:28:05,960
- Oh, well.

4823
04:28:05,960 --> 04:28:06,960
- I don't think anything's going to come

4824
04:28:06,960 --> 04:28:07,800
for the rest of the stream.

4825
04:28:07,800 --> 04:28:08,640
- Oh, oh.

4826
04:28:08,640 --> 04:28:09,480
- Really?

4827
04:28:09,480 --> 04:28:10,320
- I should fight like this.

4828
04:28:10,320 --> 04:28:11,160
- There's like a million super touch.

4829
04:28:11,160 --> 04:28:12,160
You gotta at least read the super touch.

4830
04:28:12,160 --> 04:28:13,000
- Oh my God.

4831
04:28:13,000 --> 04:28:13,840
- Don't be weird.

4832
04:28:13,840 --> 04:28:14,680
- Oh no.

4833
04:28:14,680 --> 04:28:15,520
- Don't be weird.

4834
04:28:15,520 --> 04:28:17,080
- I've already said he was going to ban one guy earlier

4835
04:28:17,080 --> 04:28:18,960
for the super chat of, I'm usually an Adam's side,

4836
04:28:18,960 --> 04:28:20,120
but I agree with the Sitch.

4837
04:28:21,560 --> 04:28:22,400
- Don't be weird.

4838
04:28:23,480 --> 04:28:27,760
- Adam is really good at staying calm in rough situations.

4839
04:28:27,760 --> 04:28:29,160
And that's annoying.

4840
04:28:29,160 --> 04:28:30,200
Really, I feel the opposite.

4841
04:28:30,200 --> 04:28:32,320
Like if you said, like all of the,

4842
04:28:32,320 --> 04:28:35,560
all of the Adam has triggered, I think is accurate.

4843
04:28:35,560 --> 04:28:36,960
I think that's an accurate assessment of the situation.

4844
04:28:36,960 --> 04:28:38,840
So I don't, but the only thing that triggered me,

4845
04:28:38,840 --> 04:28:41,000
the thing, I didn't get triggered about the interaction

4846
04:28:41,000 --> 04:28:42,280
about Republicans and Democrats.

4847
04:28:42,280 --> 04:28:44,240
I get triggered when Sitch calls me a liar

4848
04:28:44,240 --> 04:28:46,880
and then the chat takes his side because it's bullshit.

4849
04:28:46,880 --> 04:28:49,280
I'm not lying, I'm being totally good faith about this.

4850
04:28:49,280 --> 04:28:50,120
- Yeah.

4851
04:28:50,120 --> 04:28:52,000
- So that's what triggers me.

4852
04:28:52,000 --> 04:28:54,160
'Cause Sitch is like, no, this is your position, Adam.

4853
04:28:54,160 --> 04:28:55,440
Let me tell you your position.

4854
04:28:55,440 --> 04:28:57,320
You care, you actually care how I vote.

4855
04:29:01,200 --> 04:29:02,440
People are getting mad that I'm banning people,

4856
04:29:02,440 --> 04:29:04,880
but look, I'm just going to keep banning you guys.

4857
04:29:04,880 --> 04:29:06,480
Anyone who's been fluted by Sitch's,

4858
04:29:06,480 --> 04:29:08,320
like Adam is a lying gas lighter.

4859
04:29:08,320 --> 04:29:09,960
There's no reason for them to even be on the stream.

4860
04:29:09,960 --> 04:29:12,120
So Sitch is basically poison the well,

4861
04:29:12,120 --> 04:29:14,360
earn them against me and they must go.

4862
04:29:15,400 --> 04:29:17,360
So bye guys.

4863
04:29:18,280 --> 04:29:19,320
Let's see.

4864
04:29:19,320 --> 04:29:20,160
Sitch is still here.

4865
04:29:20,160 --> 04:29:21,160
Oh no, he's talking.

4866
04:29:21,160 --> 04:29:23,720
I think Sammy G came in and tried to talk Sitch down.

4867
04:29:23,720 --> 04:29:25,120
Look, I wasn't really triggered.

4868
04:29:25,120 --> 04:29:27,040
The thing that triggers me is a Sitch coming out and saying,

4869
04:29:27,040 --> 04:29:29,640
you're a liar, you care, you're trying to convince me,

4870
04:29:29,640 --> 04:29:31,280
you're trying to make me vote for a Republican

4871
04:29:31,280 --> 04:29:33,520
and I would never do such a thing.

4872
04:29:33,520 --> 04:29:35,200
No one cares who Sitch votes for.

4873
04:29:36,360 --> 04:29:38,360
Adam was trolling Sitch too hard.

4874
04:29:38,360 --> 04:29:39,200
Okay.

4875
04:29:40,280 --> 04:29:43,600
I did make one of you a moderator who said nice things.

4876
04:29:43,600 --> 04:29:45,680
So I don't know who got the moderator card out of this,

4877
04:29:45,680 --> 04:29:47,680
but bring it to your agenda.

4878
04:29:47,680 --> 04:29:49,440
- Modern somebody who said nice things about Adam

4879
04:29:49,440 --> 04:29:50,720
will serve as well.

4880
04:29:52,400 --> 04:29:54,640
- Okay, $10 super, I'm gonna have to read Super Tuts on my own,

4881
04:29:54,640 --> 04:29:57,200
which sucks, but maybe Sean will come on and read Super Tuts.

4882
04:29:57,200 --> 04:29:59,520
We don't know if Sean is a good Super Tuts reader.

4883
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:03,880
uh... the rock again says you are lying at them

4884
04:30:03,880 --> 04:30:06,760
it's that you made such uncomfortable and didn't acknowledge that he felt that

4885
04:30:06,760 --> 04:30:09,320
way please don't and look i'm not going to be obviously

4886
04:30:09,320 --> 04:30:12,320
but super terrible and look i think you're completely good faith that this

4887
04:30:12,320 --> 04:30:13,520
the problem is

4888
04:30:13,520 --> 04:30:16,480
when six comes out and accuses me of being a liar

4889
04:30:16,480 --> 04:30:17,760
and gaslighting him

4890
04:30:17,760 --> 04:30:20,680
it gives people in the chat

4891
04:30:20,680 --> 04:30:23,880
the idea that adam is an untrustworthy lying

4892
04:30:23,880 --> 04:30:25,680
uh... person

4893
04:30:25,680 --> 04:30:29,220
it completely i'm usually as much of an assault yes he's uh... he's i don't

4894
04:30:29,220 --> 04:30:31,440
want to say this is a piece of shit yes

4895
04:30:31,440 --> 04:30:32,920
stories are usually people

4896
04:30:32,920 --> 04:30:35,560
he's always a piece of shit yet but but this is why i'm saying like

4897
04:30:35,560 --> 04:30:39,160
such a story like this to stitch well they're not usually fighting like this

4898
04:30:39,160 --> 04:30:42,720
but this is why i'm saying like such as the smarter of the two

4899
04:30:42,720 --> 04:30:46,480
uh... and adam is is retarded and he's a shitty person but like i judge such

4900
04:30:46,480 --> 04:30:49,440
basically as harshly as it is cosigned for years like they do show together he

4901
04:30:49,440 --> 04:30:52,320
always depends on them so it's you know when we say

4902
04:30:52,320 --> 04:30:56,760
in the chat who like our audience turns half of our audience against me

4903
04:30:56,760 --> 04:30:59,200
and it's just that bullshit when all i was doing

4904
04:30:59,200 --> 04:31:01,800
was assessing a position

4905
04:31:01,800 --> 04:31:04,680
like i don't think any of you care what such a position is i think you'd like to

4906
04:31:04,680 --> 04:31:05,320
know it

4907
04:31:05,320 --> 04:31:08,720
so i did keep asking look we can go back and listen to the stream i'm happy to

4908
04:31:08,720 --> 04:31:10,520
listen to the stream

4909
04:31:10,520 --> 04:31:11,240
together

4910
04:31:11,240 --> 04:31:13,440
and point out like

4911
04:31:13,440 --> 04:31:15,680
but i look i'm having this conversation in good faith and i just i don't feel

4912
04:31:15,680 --> 04:31:16,520
like i'm getting

4913
04:31:16,520 --> 04:31:18,080
i feel like such as like being

4914
04:31:18,080 --> 04:31:21,880
me and honor when he's like you're gaslighting people you're lying to people

4915
04:31:21,880 --> 04:31:25,680
he also uh... he said gaslight not like that look gaslight is a liar

4916
04:31:25,680 --> 04:31:27,400
that's exactly what gaslighting is

4917
04:31:27,400 --> 04:31:31,320
space he he is such a position right now on what i'm doing

4918
04:31:31,320 --> 04:31:33,800
is that i am trying to convince him

4919
04:31:33,800 --> 04:31:35,600
that he should vote republican

4920
04:31:35,600 --> 04:31:38,480
which i'm not and i don't care

4921
04:31:38,480 --> 04:31:40,720
i mean obviously it's interesting

4922
04:31:40,720 --> 04:31:43,320
what he thinks the threat level is look everyone in the chat was arguing over

4923
04:31:43,320 --> 04:31:46,560
what the threat level was

4924
04:31:46,560 --> 04:31:47,840
such as currently muted

4925
04:31:47,840 --> 04:31:50,240
and i don't know look i don't know if we're gonna go on

4926
04:31:50,240 --> 04:31:52,280
but i just want it on the record that i'm ready to go on

4927
04:31:52,280 --> 04:31:54,880
i'm ready to continue

4928
04:31:54,880 --> 04:31:58,760
and i thought it was a fun exchange and uh...

4929
04:31:58,760 --> 04:32:02,280
this is just the amount of atoms right if uh... if we truly cared who such voted

4930
04:32:02,280 --> 04:32:02,840
for

4931
04:32:02,840 --> 04:32:04,280
we wouldn't be here

4932
04:32:04,280 --> 04:32:06,240
well that's probably right for the right wingers so

4933
04:32:06,240 --> 04:32:09,480
but i'm not gonna have a bunch of people in chat saying i'm gaslighting them and

4934
04:32:09,480 --> 04:32:11,760
i'm fucking lying to them because i'm not

4935
04:32:11,760 --> 04:32:16,960
but you and goodbye

4936
04:32:16,960 --> 04:32:21,080
the adam friended show adam please stop being a douche

4937
04:32:21,080 --> 04:32:23,040
look how am i being a douche

4938
04:32:23,040 --> 04:32:26,280
like i've such is literally the one getting ten times angrier than me

4939
04:32:26,280 --> 04:32:29,800
now calling a liar telling me that i'm gaslighting assigning me a position that

4940
04:32:29,800 --> 04:32:32,680
i don't have how am i the one being a douche

4941
04:32:32,680 --> 04:32:35,840
would am i assigning such a position that he doesn't have is am i doing that

4942
04:32:35,840 --> 04:32:36,840
am i telling everyone

4943
04:32:36,840 --> 04:32:39,640
such you're lying to everyone you're lying to the audience am i telling such

4944
04:32:39,640 --> 04:32:42,240
what he what he cares about since you care about this

4945
04:32:42,240 --> 04:32:44,480
since you care about that

4946
04:32:44,480 --> 04:32:47,760
oh you're banning people like a son look on i i will unban everyone that i banned

4947
04:32:47,760 --> 04:32:49,140
it's probably the banning this

4948
04:32:49,140 --> 04:32:52,560
this is a people like bsa okay

4949
04:32:52,560 --> 04:32:55,520
you get your offer names guys go grab them

4950
04:32:55,520 --> 04:32:57,140
that you're what

4951
04:32:57,140 --> 04:32:59,160
wow forever nicknames

4952
04:32:59,160 --> 04:33:00,600
oh

4953
04:33:00,600 --> 04:33:02,600
also available

4954
04:33:02,600 --> 04:33:07,480
if you guys want to see us live in san Antonio in a few days

4955
04:33:07,480 --> 04:33:08,400
come down to campus

4956
04:33:08,400 --> 04:33:09,880
um...

4957
04:33:09,880 --> 04:33:12,400
digital ground game dot org slash my first

4958
04:33:12,400 --> 04:33:14,360
and november first

4959
04:33:14,360 --> 04:33:18,000
value

4960
04:33:18,000 --> 04:33:21,360
i will unbanned everyone that i

4961
04:33:21,360 --> 04:33:24,640
was just about to say that so you got unbanned all the all the bad people

4962
04:33:24,640 --> 04:33:27,480
did you give one person i gave one person moderators you take it away

4963
04:33:27,480 --> 04:33:30,960
i haven't been standing i have not been on my computer so now

4964
04:33:30,960 --> 04:33:31,840
what happened

4965
04:33:31,840 --> 04:33:32,800
i was a bathroom

4966
04:33:32,800 --> 04:33:34,400
uh... and it's a cracker

4967
04:33:34,400 --> 04:33:37,040
but yeah you got a you got unbanned people that's pretty crazy

4968
04:33:37,040 --> 04:33:40,400
dies and i don't know but um... so look i just i gotta know here so do you think

4969
04:33:40,400 --> 04:33:42,520
i'm a lying gas lighter or what

4970
04:33:42,520 --> 04:33:44,680
because all that's a contention for me is that you like

4971
04:33:44,680 --> 04:33:47,840
do you think i like i honestly care who you're voting for you think i care if you

4972
04:33:47,840 --> 04:33:49,940
register republican democratic like do you think

4973
04:33:49,940 --> 04:33:52,440
'cause you're signing that position

4974
04:33:52,440 --> 04:33:54,920
i don't think you're lying

4975
04:33:54,920 --> 04:33:58,200
so why he's me about that

4976
04:33:58,200 --> 04:34:00,800
i don't know how to answer this question and move on

4977
04:34:00,800 --> 04:34:02,640
i don't i don't like i feel like i have this question we're just gonna be talking

4978
04:34:02,640 --> 04:34:04,880
about this for next like thirty minutes

4979
04:34:04,880 --> 04:34:07,000
i mean i can i can answer it but uh... you know

4980
04:34:07,000 --> 04:34:09,480
no answer i want to know

4981
04:34:09,480 --> 04:34:13,440
you do this thing i don't think you're lying i'm going to be a hundred percent serious i do not think that you're lying

4982
04:34:13,440 --> 04:34:14,480
but you do this thing

4983
04:34:14,480 --> 04:34:16,240
where you don't like

4984
04:34:16,240 --> 04:34:18,000
the perception that things bother you

4985
04:34:18,000 --> 04:34:22,360
and so i think that when things bother you and we get these debates or arguments were both sides of us are bothered

4986
04:34:22,360 --> 04:34:23,240
and then

4987
04:34:23,240 --> 04:34:26,160
you know you you like go back to the position of like well not really bother i don't care

4988
04:34:26,160 --> 04:34:29,200
which then feels to me like that's why i think it's like well obviously you did care them

4989
04:34:29,200 --> 04:34:32,200
i don't think that you're doing this is some sort of intentional manipulate writing process

4990
04:34:32,200 --> 04:34:38,440
so but so your position still is that i do care who you vote for and that i do care that you i don't know if you care what vote for you cared

4991
04:34:38,440 --> 04:34:42,560
uh... you care what my position is or my opinion is on the subject

4992
04:34:42,560 --> 04:34:44,760
what what can i do to convince you that i don't care

4993
04:34:44,760 --> 04:34:47,760
oh my god it's so crazy that it doesn't understand what the complaint is

4994
04:34:47,760 --> 04:34:50,320
it's when you get somebody nothing is more annoying than

4995
04:34:50,320 --> 04:34:53,840
getting somebody riled up on a thing and then you guys have a back-and-forth and then afterwards person

4996
04:34:53,840 --> 04:34:59,120
i don't care actually all about this because then it's like all the other person feels like they just invested you feel very confused

4997
04:34:59,120 --> 04:35:00,040
you're like emotionally so

4998
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:02,960
like a logically blue ball, like you just invested all this time and energy into like

4999
04:35:02,960 --> 04:35:05,280
an argument that you had a back and forth on and I'd be able to sing actually, I don't

5000
04:35:05,280 --> 04:35:08,480
even give a fuck, whatever. And it's like the fuck, like that's his complaint, that's

5001
04:35:08,480 --> 04:35:15,800
his problem. And even if that's not, if, if, if Sitch's understanding of Adam was wrong,

5002
04:35:15,800 --> 04:35:20,600
then I feel like what Adam has to say is just like, okay, like I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna

5003
04:35:20,600 --> 04:35:23,440
push you hard on this then if it's a thing I don't care that much about because I think

5004
04:35:23,440 --> 04:35:27,160
Sitch's issue is there's nothing Adam can say or do to prove that he didn't care because

5005
04:35:27,160 --> 04:35:31,480
Adam was pushing him pretty hard on answering hypotheticals or choosing options. And so that

5006
04:35:31,480 --> 04:35:33,880
kind of communicates that you do care. And now it feels like you're saying you don't

5007
04:35:33,880 --> 04:35:36,160
care at the end of it because you want to get away from the conversation or something,

5008
04:35:36,160 --> 04:35:40,800
which makes Sitch probably feel fucking like mine fucked is what's happening.

5009
04:35:40,800 --> 04:35:45,260
Motley, I guess you could drop it. It could be not trying to like, look, when we get

5010
04:35:45,260 --> 04:35:48,720
in the exchanges, you're the one look, we can go back and listen to it. You're the one

5011
04:35:48,720 --> 04:35:53,240
that is getting progressively angrier and angrier and angrier. And me, I'm just like,

5012
04:35:53,240 --> 04:35:56,920
what the fuck? In this, like normally on a stream like that, like everything Adam is

5013
04:35:56,920 --> 04:36:00,760
saying here. Oh my God, he's got to be like friendless or singular or he has never interacted

5014
04:36:00,760 --> 04:36:03,560
with humans before. It's such a stupid thing to say. It's like, how do you know that you

5015
04:36:03,560 --> 04:36:06,640
were in the right? It's like, well, because I was just chill and being calm and the other

5016
04:36:06,640 --> 04:36:10,440
person's getting matter and matter and matter and more mad, more mad, more angry. Yeah.

5017
04:36:10,440 --> 04:36:14,400
And so, you know, must be on them. And it's like, wait a second. What? Are you making

5018
04:36:14,400 --> 04:36:18,240
them more and more upset? It's like, well, no, I can't be because I'm not getting upset.

5019
04:36:18,240 --> 04:36:19,240
So okay.

5020
04:36:19,240 --> 04:36:23,680
When I see that you're getting angrier and angrier, I just, I back up, I realized, look,

5021
04:36:23,680 --> 04:36:31,160
it's just nearing his breaking point. Okay. Oh my God, it's like the worst type of like,

5022
04:36:31,160 --> 04:36:33,820
it's okay. I understand, bro. You just couldn't handle the conversation. I say that you're

5023
04:36:33,820 --> 04:36:38,960
mentally and psychologically tormented by my basic question. So I'll just back up because

5024
04:36:38,960 --> 04:36:42,760
I know you can't handle it. But this time I'm like, what the, why is it so difficult just

5025
04:36:42,760 --> 04:36:46,560
to lay out what your position is? Oh my God. Why is that so difficult? I literally was

5026
04:36:46,560 --> 04:36:48,920
every time I was trying to land my position, you saw a dog in the question. And I think

5027
04:36:48,920 --> 04:36:52,880
you were, but we finally got your position. So anyway, we can move on.

5028
04:36:52,880 --> 04:36:53,880
Welcome.

5029
04:36:53,880 --> 04:36:59,780
I'm going to work on it. You look, I don't give a fuck what your position is. I really

5030
04:36:59,780 --> 04:37:00,780
don't.

5031
04:37:00,780 --> 04:37:01,780
Okay.

5032
04:37:01,780 --> 04:37:11,440
You can bring up on your face. Yeah, I'll tell you your position article. You can bring

5033
04:37:11,440 --> 04:37:17,640
them. That's from the New York Post, Elan Omar deleted tweet may reveal that she really

5034
04:37:17,640 --> 04:37:20,840
did marry her brother. Representative Elan Omar Pele referred to her family by similar

5035
04:37:20,840 --> 04:37:24,980
name to her former husband. And since deleted social media posts from over a decade ago,

5036
04:37:24,980 --> 04:37:28,120
as federal investigators probe her identity and immigration records. If you scroll down,

5037
04:37:28,120 --> 04:37:30,600
you can say, so said you're trying to move on. Is Adam going to bring it back or we moved

5038
04:37:30,600 --> 04:37:35,640
on from this? Oh, man, do you the actual tweet? She said in 2013, happy father's day to my

5039
04:37:35,640 --> 04:37:41,680
abba, which means father, new nurse I Ed. I'm forever grateful to Allah for giving me the

5040
04:37:41,680 --> 04:37:45,900
best father. She wrote down June at 2013. She since deleted the tweet, the name nurse

5041
04:37:45,900 --> 04:37:48,920
I Ed as reference appears to be similar to the name of her ex husband who people are

5042
04:37:48,920 --> 04:37:54,320
accusing to be her brother Ahmed nurse I Ed Elan. So definitely would be strong indication.

5043
04:37:54,320 --> 04:37:59,800
In fact, she did marry her brother. Just for the citizenship.

5044
04:37:59,800 --> 04:38:07,720
Okay. Okay. Well, yeah, look, we we know all of that stuff. Obviously, I'm sorry, sir.

5045
04:38:07,720 --> 04:38:12,040
Okay, we're going to get into the day. So that was just closing out. I'll just close

5046
04:38:12,040 --> 04:38:17,840
in that. Okay, good. Okay. So here is this Vivek ad. This is a pretty crazy situation

5047
04:38:17,840 --> 04:38:22,480
that kind of unfolded this week. I guess maybe I should play the ad first and get into the

5048
04:38:22,480 --> 04:38:26,520
background because I don't know what the background for that is Vivek is running for governor

5049
04:38:26,520 --> 04:38:33,440
in Ohio against a woman named Amy Acton and Vivek and his team found Amy Acton's mother

5050
04:38:33,440 --> 04:38:38,920
and got her to come on and do an ad where she basically calls her daughter a liar. So

5051
04:38:38,920 --> 04:38:43,960
here's the ad. Starla Arthur and I made me act as mother. I worked at Children and Family

5052
04:38:43,960 --> 04:38:49,080
Service Association building one of the first two sexual abuse programs in America. I love

5053
04:38:49,080 --> 04:38:53,360
my daughter, but when I saw her lying, it was a liar. She lies about her entire fucking

5054
04:38:53,360 --> 04:38:58,800
eye. Don't only get worse. Candidates mother. Yeah, definitely very strong and definitely

5055
04:38:58,800 --> 04:39:03,200
very powerful answers from the own candidates mother. Okay, I have to get that that's not

5056
04:39:03,200 --> 04:39:06,880
it has none. Look, none of the what's actually going on in this ad is actually in the end,

5057
04:39:06,880 --> 04:39:10,680
which is part of the most devious part about it. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Like, and apparently

5058
04:39:10,680 --> 04:39:16,400
it picks up again towards the end. Hold on. Already came into the country. Okay, you're

5059
04:39:16,400 --> 04:39:19,400
making argument that they still don't care about immigration. I thought currently, not

5060
04:39:19,400 --> 04:39:24,440
that I don't think they do. Look, I don't think I have to pass the law because it would serve

5061
04:39:24,440 --> 04:39:27,520
them in the election. They wanted to win over moderate voters who do care about it. Okay,

5062
04:39:27,520 --> 04:39:29,920
well, I think a lot of our voters are Democrats and they vote Democrat. And that's why they

5063
04:39:29,920 --> 04:39:34,000
thought they could get their vote by trying to pass legislation. Sure. Fine. Okay. But

5064
04:39:34,000 --> 04:39:42,000
look, I don't if Democrats take over. If Democrats win in 2028, I just I have they're

5065
04:39:42,000 --> 04:39:45,200
not they're going to throw the border open again. Like I just I don't I don't believe

5066
04:39:45,200 --> 04:39:50,720
that they're going to I don't even care about immigration whatsoever. Like they're pitching.

5067
04:39:50,720 --> 04:39:55,440
Like they still are clinging to the narrative that has a border bill. Yeah, this is all

5068
04:39:55,440 --> 04:39:59,800
just retarded. Just just this is just a mega brand. I mean, you're wondering what to say.

5069
04:40:00,000 --> 04:40:07,360
It's good. We need the immigration. More immigration is always better. You can never have too much

5070
04:40:07,360 --> 04:40:11,600
immigration. That is a belief on the left. That is a typical democratic belief. Even the moderate

5071
04:40:11,600 --> 04:40:17,040
Democrats believe that because they think, oh, it adds to the economy. The immigrants are always a

5072
04:40:17,040 --> 04:40:20,160
net positive for economic growth. I hear them say this all the time.

5073
04:40:22,000 --> 04:40:25,440
I don't think that's true. I don't know if that's true or the goal. I don't think the Democrats

5074
04:40:25,440 --> 04:40:28,480
overwhelmingly aren't favor of just letting open borders. I don't know what you're based on.

5075
04:40:28,480 --> 04:40:32,240
Okay. Look, if you can convince me otherwise, I think that a large amount of them,

5076
04:40:32,240 --> 04:40:36,320
I think this is the argument that they make is that they say we should let the people in

5077
04:40:36,320 --> 04:40:39,840
who are fleeing from some kind of dangerous situation, right?

5078
04:40:39,840 --> 04:40:44,240
Which everyone's going to say even if they're a colonel in the fucking death hole army,

5079
04:40:44,240 --> 04:40:46,560
right? But that's the problem is that there's sort of this naivete about the whole situation,

5080
04:40:46,560 --> 04:40:50,240
which basically says, oh, well, then you're, you know, how do you properly make that determination

5081
04:40:50,240 --> 04:40:53,440
along these cases? Because that was a big problem with Biden is that everyone was abusing the system

5082
04:40:53,440 --> 04:40:57,680
and just, you know, asking for asylum on the border and lying about whatever situation they're

5083
04:40:57,680 --> 04:41:00,480
lying about just to get in the country. So then the question is, are they going to throw up in the

5084
04:41:00,480 --> 04:41:03,920
border deliberately or because they're naive? Like either way, I'm like, they're going to throw up in

5085
04:41:03,920 --> 04:41:08,160
the border. I think it's possible that they'll fuck up the border control very strongly based on

5086
04:41:08,160 --> 04:41:11,920
just the retarded naive world. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. No, I think that I don't think it's for like,

5087
04:41:11,920 --> 04:41:14,320
I don't think they're actually open border, though. I heard. Well, I was listening to that

5088
04:41:14,320 --> 04:41:18,400
interview with Nithia Raman, and she came out with a standard like left wing position that

5089
04:41:18,400 --> 04:41:23,360
she believes everyone is just good people trying to do the right thing. And I had kind of an epiphany

5090
04:41:23,360 --> 04:41:30,000
because I was like, well, that really depends upon the environment, right? Like if we lived in the

5091
04:41:30,000 --> 04:41:33,120
zombie apocalypse, right? You and I were not zombies, but we were running around, you know,

5092
04:41:33,120 --> 04:41:37,520
and like just trying to survive between us, even if we encountered people who were not zombies,

5093
04:41:37,520 --> 04:41:40,480
do you think we would think, Oh, yeah, they're probably good debate. You don't send a chance

5094
04:41:40,480 --> 04:41:43,920
against Adam doesn't care. Friedland with this guy will never talk to me. Both of these guys are

5095
04:41:43,920 --> 04:41:47,280
terrified of these guys are terrified of me. They've already said in the past that they'll never

5096
04:41:47,280 --> 04:41:51,280
have a conversation with their terrified. Well, or do you think we don't want to talk to anybody

5097
04:41:51,280 --> 04:41:57,840
anymore? Was it really us on mega? There was like a, there's like a theory of practicing power

5098
04:41:57,840 --> 04:42:01,120
where the goal is to just exclude as many voices as possible. Like you don't engage with them,

5099
04:42:01,120 --> 04:42:04,800
like lips will engage with people because that's just how we say ourselves politically. But the way

5100
04:42:04,800 --> 04:42:08,400
that mega works, the way that like the lefties work are you just try to exclude people as much

5101
04:42:08,400 --> 04:42:12,960
as possible. And then you don't ever have to actually deal with them. And that's just how they,

5102
04:42:13,600 --> 04:42:17,200
that's how they practice it. Yeah, maybe they want to steal our shit and fucking turn us into

5103
04:42:17,200 --> 04:42:22,320
their sex lives. What will we think? Can you repeat, I'm a loss about the zombie apocalypse.

5104
04:42:22,320 --> 04:42:27,520
Can you be done? If you're in a situation where it's like, there's no, like society is completely

5105
04:42:27,520 --> 04:42:31,360
collapsed. There's no authority. People can do whatever the fuck they want to you. You know,

5106
04:42:31,360 --> 04:42:36,400
it's basically it might makes right. In that situation, do you believe people are basically

5107
04:42:36,400 --> 04:42:39,920
good people? And anyone you encounter in that situation, you can just assume is going to be a

5108
04:42:39,920 --> 04:42:43,200
good person who has your interest. Of course, I mean, you could be stupid. I would think most

5109
04:42:43,200 --> 04:42:47,920
people wouldn't think that. Yes, of course. So the look, the epiphany that I kind of had was,

5110
04:42:48,720 --> 04:42:53,920
you know, you can't really say that everybody is basically a good person. Like if you foster an

5111
04:42:53,920 --> 04:42:58,160
environment, like a high trust society, like a wealthy high trust society, you can make the

5112
04:42:58,160 --> 04:43:02,080
assumption that people are basically good people because they don't they don't have anything to

5113
04:43:02,080 --> 04:43:05,840
gain by being horrible, terrible people. In a situation where society is collapsed,

5114
04:43:05,840 --> 04:43:11,520
they have every incentive to be horrible, terrible cannibals. Right. So so much of this belief really

5115
04:43:11,520 --> 04:43:15,520
depends upon the environment. And that was kind of the epiphany that I had because I'm like, oh man,

5116
04:43:15,520 --> 04:43:19,360
things are getting pretty fucking bad in LA. Like we're not zombie apocalypse level, but it's

5117
04:43:19,360 --> 04:43:25,120
getting like, it's getting to the point where do I trust people in Los Angeles? Not particularly.

5118
04:43:25,680 --> 04:43:30,640
Do I think like people are, I don't know. It's just it's an interesting situation that people

5119
04:43:30,640 --> 04:43:34,640
can be in situations where people are incentivized to basically be good people. But most of that

5120
04:43:34,640 --> 04:43:38,400
comes in from the cultural environment, from the incentives that go on in the cultural environment.

5121
04:43:38,400 --> 04:43:43,360
It's not a thing about human nature. It's a thing about what the society that's really what's driving

5122
04:43:43,360 --> 04:43:50,960
it. But anyway, squeeze Louise, thanks so much for $20 says, why are we talking about corruption?

5123
04:43:50,960 --> 04:43:55,280
I thought we all decided to just vote based on who's funniest at this point. That's true.

5124
04:43:55,280 --> 04:44:00,640
That would be the best thing to do. PC for $2 says Adam is emotionally cheating on California

5125
04:44:00,640 --> 04:44:05,440
with full interest. I know it's hilarious. I was pretty funny and pretty true. So I just it's

5126
04:44:05,440 --> 04:44:12,560
so sad. I love California, but it's getting insane. I can't believe it. It's so sad because I

5127
04:44:12,560 --> 04:44:15,840
saw this happen in New York and I was like, oh, that'll that's not gonna happen here.

5128
04:44:17,120 --> 04:44:20,400
Wrong, wrong. The Rock Moss for $10 says, why are you still living in California?

5129
04:44:20,400 --> 04:44:25,200
If you're so upset at all. Hi, my friend. Whatever he says on his social media.

5130
04:44:25,200 --> 04:44:30,960
They're here. My family's here. My life is here. I'm invested. I'm invested. I'm here because

5131
04:44:30,960 --> 04:44:38,000
it's it's like a massive like it I'd be it would be a difficult move to move out of state.

5132
04:44:38,000 --> 04:44:42,240
Hard to leave your home. So I mean, when you're young and you have nothing and you can just

5133
04:44:42,240 --> 04:44:45,360
throw everything in the car, it's obviously a lot easier. So that's what I guess you did, actually.

5134
04:44:46,560 --> 04:44:48,640
Yeah. When you when you look out for it, did you always kind of go back?

5135
04:44:49,760 --> 04:44:53,840
I mean, that that is one thing that was interesting because I did basically get in a car and just

5136
04:44:54,400 --> 04:44:58,800
go live other places with friends after college and ended up doing that for a few years. Like I

5137
04:44:58,800 --> 04:45:00,000
I live in New Orleans.

5138
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:02,000
I lived in

5139
04:45:02,680 --> 04:45:07,520
I guess New York and New Orleans are really the only place out of state that I lived every other place was in California

5140
04:45:07,520 --> 04:45:09,880
But just different places in California. So um

5141
04:45:10,480 --> 04:45:14,720
What was the question again? Like it was it was easy did live in New Orleans in New York

5142
04:45:14,720 --> 04:45:20,440
That's where my valuable network of people in any new environment and

5143
04:45:21,160 --> 04:45:25,440
Really like get ahead and it's all difficult because you're building like a new friend network to go back to California

5144
04:45:25,440 --> 04:45:30,460
Look in the friend network that you and embedded friend network like and as soon as you become friends with someone who is like a life

5145
04:45:30,460 --> 04:45:34,520
Longer, they've they grew up there and stuff like that. They all have like not in the friend group anymore

5146
04:45:36,680 --> 04:45:38,900
Sitch is actually so smart and smarter than I am. Thank you

5147
04:45:38,900 --> 04:45:44,160
Yeah, I can easily knock holes in what these arguments were so why does he make them when he's not partisan and also typically honest

5148
04:45:44,160 --> 04:45:48,660
What I'm I guess I'm not sure what argument you're referring to if you want to ban that person feel free

5149
04:45:48,660 --> 04:45:53,080
So I don't want to ban that person. They said okay, and also I mean if I see them in the general time, so okay

5150
04:45:53,600 --> 04:45:56,800
Oh, I had to unbam I had to unbam Batman's peg old fish

5151
04:45:56,800 --> 04:46:00,920
Oh, the thing that triggers me is just that the people like calling me dishonest

5152
04:46:00,920 --> 04:46:05,080
And especially just assigning a position to me saying like this is what you're trying to do

5153
04:46:05,480 --> 04:46:09,760
That's super triggering. Okay, like if I if I did the same thing with you if I said listen, Sitch

5154
04:46:10,240 --> 04:46:13,560
What you were doing on the show is you were trying to get me to hate Trump

5155
04:46:14,040 --> 04:46:15,360
And I want you to stop doing it

5156
04:46:15,360 --> 04:46:17,000
I want you to and if you said no Adam

5157
04:46:17,000 --> 04:46:18,320
I don't care if you hate Trump or love Trump

5158
04:46:18,320 --> 04:46:22,640
I have and if I said you're gaslighting me what you're doing is you're trying to get me to hate Trump

5159
04:46:22,640 --> 04:46:27,980
That's like that's an untenable situation to be oh, like how do you convince me that you're not that I have this belief?

5160
04:46:29,400 --> 04:46:33,000
That you're that you're not engaging in but I won't let it I won't believe otherwise

5161
04:46:34,000 --> 04:46:36,000
I think that's kind of an untenable situation

5162
04:46:36,840 --> 04:46:39,320
Hmm, I guess I guess I could see that way. I mean I think I

5163
04:46:39,920 --> 04:46:44,360
Was also saying that saying that I'm just like dodging the question and not honestly answering your questions would be similar

5164
04:46:44,360 --> 04:46:46,360
So look I put up a poll in the audience

5165
04:46:47,160 --> 04:46:49,160
55% said they understood your position

5166
04:46:51,400 --> 04:46:54,560
45% said you were dodging the question. Oh, okay. Oh, so like

5167
04:46:55,960 --> 04:47:02,120
If it was I think you could make that argument if that poll was like 95% of the people said no if the poll came back

5168
04:47:02,120 --> 04:47:04,880
The 95% of the people said no

5169
04:47:06,760 --> 04:47:12,540
Sitch's position was totally clear. I would think to myself. Okay. Well, it was just me the position was unclear to me

5170
04:47:13,240 --> 04:47:18,240
But it doesn't where it's like 50/50 that I didn't I okay, but that's kind of a relevant point my point wasn't the fact claim of it

5171
04:47:18,240 --> 04:47:22,160
It was you were saying I was assigning you a position and I'm saying you were assigning me

5172
04:47:22,160 --> 04:47:24,200
I guess it was a position you're signing me the lat an intentional lack of position

5173
04:47:24,320 --> 04:47:29,320
You're saying I was intentional because your question look because your position was I'm obviously you made it clear in the end

5174
04:47:29,520 --> 04:47:33,400
But like half the audience thinks no you weren't being clear with your position. Okay, so for me

5175
04:47:33,400 --> 04:47:36,240
Honestly saying me honestly being like I don't get I don't know your position here

5176
04:47:36,240 --> 04:47:42,200
You're not being clear with your position like it's it's a it's a fine claim for me to make like if you are being crystal clear with your position

5177
04:47:42,200 --> 04:47:47,280
And I'm making that claim that you're not being clear then I am gaslighting you then I am like being incendiary, right?

5178
04:47:47,760 --> 04:47:52,760
But if half the audience doesn't know where your position is then you are not being clear about your position your that that pole should come back

5179
04:47:53,360 --> 04:47:56,160
95% of people think you're being crystal clear with your position

5180
04:47:56,160 --> 04:48:00,820
Well, I guess all I can say is I'll have to listen back to it and write up some kind of full

5181
04:48:00,960 --> 04:48:05,960
Analysis try to to look back it with where the breakdown occurred. So I obviously don't remember the exact

5182
04:48:06,840 --> 04:48:10,680
Every point that was made and how everything went down the way it did so you don't I've listened back

5183
04:48:11,040 --> 04:48:13,680
Whenever there's like some sort of contentious dialogue. I usually listen back

5184
04:48:13,680 --> 04:48:17,240
I think things got a little contentious last week and I just I didn't listen back, but

5185
04:48:17,920 --> 04:48:20,360
I'm oh my god. I can never let it go dude

5186
04:48:20,360 --> 04:48:24,720
He has to be the winner in whatever disagreement there is holy shit because I'm curious is it is it me?

5187
04:48:24,720 --> 04:48:26,440
Well, a lot of times I'm curious like okay

5188
04:48:26,440 --> 04:48:31,160
How did I do when I did actually get triggered there was one interaction that we had where you were very angry?

5189
04:48:31,160 --> 04:48:35,920
And you were saying Adam, you're so fucking triggered and I was not triggered at all like I knew I was not triggered

5190
04:48:35,920 --> 04:48:40,000
Like I can tell when I get triggered this today. I got really no one in the chat once it's at this conversation

5191
04:48:40,000 --> 04:48:42,360
So I don't know why oh and it's just trying to get away from it again

5192
04:48:42,760 --> 04:48:45,440
Does that I'm really not see how many times he's trying to get away from this car?

5193
04:48:45,440 --> 04:48:50,040
He's all reviewed later. I'll go over it after maybe I'm it like we don't have that we don't have that. Okay, we don't have them

5194
04:48:50,040 --> 04:48:53,020
Okay, finally now they're gonna let it go and for sure

5195
04:48:53,020 --> 04:48:57,000
I was not gonna try to get in another comment of course if you want to stop like every person in chat is like move on

5196
04:48:58,680 --> 04:49:03,040
What do you hold on wait hold on hold on I?

5197
04:49:03,840 --> 04:49:08,800
See zero move on in chat everyone is saying I love rehatch arguments. I don't understand why you guys are doing this

5198
04:49:08,800 --> 04:49:13,520
We're back to this. Can you do this offline later? We're going at it again. Okay, we got it now. We now we move on

5199
04:49:14,040 --> 04:49:18,200
Don't be a female archaeologist. Let's not do this. Okay. I guess I should I didn't literally mean there

5200
04:49:18,200 --> 04:49:23,500
I was just I was summarizing all right, right, right, right? No, that's fine. Okay. Okay. Well the the reason I brought it up again was because

5201
04:49:26,440 --> 04:49:29,580
Circle around won't come around one more time of the you making

5202
04:49:30,840 --> 04:49:35,860
That you know, I brought up the example of I'm in like a no-win situation and it sucks and you're like well fuck

5203
04:49:36,520 --> 04:49:38,600
That is kind of a no-win situation. But what am I gonna do?

5204
04:49:38,600 --> 04:49:45,100
We can that is completely antithetical to the show is like assigning people positions, but it's something you would never do like you never sign

5205
04:49:45,100 --> 04:49:48,800
Hutch's position. Oh, but me. I'll sign your position all day

5206
04:49:50,360 --> 04:49:55,140
Boardbills on desk month there responded. Thank you. So the border bill was unnecessary. Also. I got off it. We're good

5207
04:49:55,140 --> 04:50:00,000
We're good. He just ignore them move on. Okay, I'm forcing the bill incentivize open borders and that's migration by accepting 5k data

5208
04:50:00,000 --> 04:50:04,000
It was horrible. So well, I completed a series the second part about the 5k a day thing, which

5209
04:50:04,000 --> 04:50:08,960
only went up a bit. In terms of it being unnecessary, I guess it's kind of interesting because it's

5210
04:50:08,960 --> 04:50:13,840
one of those situations where you could be a situation where you could say Biden and the Democrats

5211
04:50:13,840 --> 04:50:18,480
honestly believe that the bill was unnecessary, but they still wanted to pass essentially to give

5212
04:50:18,480 --> 04:50:22,800
him some kind of like responsibility out the situation. So we're going to be like, oh, like,

5213
04:50:22,800 --> 04:50:25,760
I'm not the bad guys. I just have to pass a law. Which is very possible. That was the case.

5214
04:50:25,760 --> 04:50:28,880
The argument that they were making was that they didn't have the legal right to actually do

5215
04:50:29,760 --> 04:50:34,560
what basically what Trump did. And I would have to actually do a lot more research to look into

5216
04:50:34,560 --> 04:50:39,840
that to see what is legality of that in terms of being able to turn people away on the basis of

5217
04:50:40,720 --> 04:50:43,120
that are applying for asylum on the border. Because there are, I mean, there were a bunch of laws

5218
04:50:43,120 --> 04:50:45,760
and treaties and bullshit that we signed that basically say we were supposed to do that.

5219
04:50:45,760 --> 04:50:49,440
And I don't know the exact mechanism that Trump had to say we're not doing it.

5220
04:50:49,440 --> 04:50:50,560
Whether that's just only stood up.

5221
04:50:55,120 --> 04:51:00,480
Sometimes you got to agree to disagree, $20 don't know. Adam replies, you're right. I disagree

5222
04:51:00,480 --> 04:51:07,040
that Sitch is honest. What the fuck? Why? Oh my God. That's awesome.

5223
04:51:07,040 --> 04:51:10,080
Now because no one really wants to challenge it or the people that do want to challenge

5224
04:51:10,080 --> 04:51:13,600
the Supreme Court is basically side with Trump anyway, so. Okay, he's not even listening.

5225
04:51:13,600 --> 04:51:16,800
JMac for $20. Thanks so much. Sometimes you got to agree, disagree. That is true.

5226
04:51:16,800 --> 04:51:20,400
Oh, very true. Thank you, Adam, for that. Disagreeing that I'm honest.

5227
04:51:21,120 --> 04:51:23,760
Well, I disagree. It's just a disagreement. Okay.

5228
04:51:25,520 --> 04:51:27,360
That means that the Gulf is for $10 says not pushing back against the

5229
04:51:27,360 --> 04:51:29,760
degeneracy on the right is exactly how the left got to where it is.

5230
04:51:29,760 --> 04:51:33,440
Adam, you're arguing the institutional power political lens just like the left is Sitch is right here.

5231
04:51:35,680 --> 04:51:46,880
I mean, look, if Sitch's position is literally, I don't know, I don't know how you can say he's

5232
04:51:46,880 --> 04:51:51,280
correct. Oh my God. We're back in it. Wait. I'm at a works for five hours as I think

5233
04:51:51,280 --> 04:51:54,800
the corrupts tries to move on again. Right is different from the racist far right. It should not

5234
04:51:54,800 --> 04:51:58,960
be conflated with each other like the progressives in the comments. Yeah. I mean, that's fair. Well,

5235
04:51:58,960 --> 04:52:00,800
I guess I don't know what do you mean by the corrupt right? I don't know what the corrupt

5236
04:52:00,800 --> 04:52:03,760
right means in that context. So, but obviously there are going to be a lot of people that are

5237
04:52:03,760 --> 04:52:08,480
corrupt, but are not racist. That's what you mean. So, I'm welcome a key for five Canadian

5238
04:52:08,480 --> 04:52:11,440
says Adam in blue, California sees far left buildup. Sitch in red, Florida sees far right

5239
04:52:11,440 --> 04:52:15,360
buildup. You all need a neutral third person from the swing state. There you go. I mean,

5240
04:52:15,360 --> 04:52:18,320
I have to be honest though. That's fine. I don't really see. I mean, I don't really walk around

5241
04:52:18,320 --> 04:52:22,640
Florida and see like the red buildup. It's more it's more like online shit that I say, so.

5242
04:52:24,400 --> 04:52:27,600
You don't see anything in your environment, right? Well, I don't see why see lots of things in my

5243
04:52:27,600 --> 04:52:32,080
apartment, but yeah, but they're all things that you listen. There's a lot of fun. I walk around.

5244
04:52:32,640 --> 04:52:35,680
There's a where I live. There's a huge almost problem. Okay. Okay. All sorts of people fucking

5245
04:52:35,680 --> 04:52:38,320
wander around, right? Which I don't fucking like. So I do see that where I live. Okay.

5246
04:52:40,000 --> 04:52:43,280
Ralt give you a thanks so much for the 41 months being free with speakers is Adam. This is Jonathan

5247
04:52:43,280 --> 04:52:47,760
height speaking. Come home son. Come back to me. I love you. Kissy face. Well, that's nice of you.

5248
04:52:49,200 --> 04:52:53,040
Uh, the rock monster for $10 says I'm using an atom side, but I agree with such.

5249
04:52:54,160 --> 04:52:58,720
Yeah, I just that's agree. Agree how that I'm gaslighting him that I'm lying to him about my

5250
04:52:58,720 --> 04:53:03,680
position. That's the problem with that. That there's an accusation going here that I am uncomfortable

5251
04:53:03,680 --> 04:53:09,680
with. Oh, oh, oh, now. The stream from orbits simple if you made a video reacting to this

5252
04:53:09,680 --> 04:53:14,240
tizzy, please don't end the stream over this. Oh, my temple reacted to this. Yeah, of course not.

5253
04:53:14,960 --> 04:53:19,520
This past year says forgive each other. I am not in a forgiving mode. So it will not be

5254
04:53:19,520 --> 04:53:23,600
forgiveness on my end of this. Oh, Don of the lemmings for 10 New Zealand says this is all

5255
04:53:23,600 --> 04:53:29,040
Ethan's fault. Of course it is. I blame the Democrats for this. You should. Yes.

5256
04:53:30,960 --> 04:53:34,320
Ralt of give you a friend, I don't think so much says this is the least enlightened centers

5257
04:53:34,320 --> 04:53:37,200
encounter set back and brace the height. You're both wrong and you're both right. It's a microcosm

5258
04:53:37,200 --> 04:53:42,400
of what you were actually discussing to begin with. Look, I straight that's completely a good

5259
04:53:42,400 --> 04:53:47,040
assessment of it. Yes. Yes. Take a break, guys. Like cool heads prevail. I love you both.

5260
04:53:48,080 --> 04:53:52,560
People do not like when we argue. So no, no, but look, they're not interesting arguments.

5261
04:53:52,560 --> 04:53:57,600
That's the problem. I think I think it is. No, I thought this. I thought this argument was

5262
04:53:57,600 --> 04:54:02,480
fascinating, to be honest with the most people would enjoy it. Senator Murkowski of Alaska,

5263
04:54:02,480 --> 04:54:10,080
the GOP Senator has just endorsed the Democrat in the governor's race. Wow. They don't enjoy it.

5264
04:54:10,880 --> 04:54:13,520
They don't enjoy it because you're dividing the audience. You're basically you're calling me a

5265
04:54:13,520 --> 04:54:17,440
liar and a gas lighter and the audience like I have fans in the audience. You have fans in the

5266
04:54:17,440 --> 04:54:22,240
audience. So you're creating a situation where those fans are going to like beat each other up

5267
04:54:22,240 --> 04:54:27,600
and they're like, Oh my god, the show is going to stop. It's my fault. Thomas Rice for five

5268
04:54:27,600 --> 04:54:32,240
dollars. Take a break, guys. Like cool heads prevail. Love you both. Thank you. The Rock Monster for

5269
04:54:32,240 --> 04:54:34,720
$10 says you aren't lying at him. It's that you may sit uncomfortable and they acknowledge that

5270
04:54:34,720 --> 04:54:40,160
he felt that way. Please don't ban me. God, if I if I said, if I phrase it that way, it would make

5271
04:54:40,160 --> 04:54:44,800
sense to even matter. He said, I'm not trying to make you feel uncomfortable. Yeah. Look,

5272
04:54:44,800 --> 04:54:48,400
I realized that's what I've said makes you feel uncomfortable. That's true. You would get so

5273
04:54:48,400 --> 04:54:52,960
fucking pissed. Like that's the worst advice ever. Look at one stream that I was going to talk

5274
04:54:52,960 --> 04:54:56,960
about where such like completely lost his shit. And I was calm as can be. I went back and listened

5275
04:54:56,960 --> 04:55:00,040
into the stream and said the whole time was accusing me of being

5276
04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:02,240
being triggered and losing my mind and being angry.

5277
04:55:02,240 --> 04:55:03,560
And I'm like, this is the craziest situation

5278
04:55:03,560 --> 04:55:05,400
I'm fucking in, ever.

5279
04:55:05,400 --> 04:55:07,600
And the comments were all like,

5280
04:55:07,600 --> 04:55:09,600
" why would he treat a friend this way?"

5281
04:55:09,600 --> 04:55:11,840
So, but look, that's the way that's--

5282
04:55:11,840 --> 04:55:13,080
- I don't know why I'm reading Superchats.

5283
04:55:13,080 --> 04:55:15,840
It's just obviously reopening all some old rooms and shit.

5284
04:55:15,840 --> 04:55:18,080
Like it just feels, I don't have the point of this.

5285
04:55:18,080 --> 04:55:20,400
- It's not old ones, I don't care.

5286
04:55:20,400 --> 04:55:22,080
I honestly don't care.

5287
04:55:22,080 --> 04:55:23,600
It's just the problem. - It doesn't care.

5288
04:55:23,600 --> 04:55:25,080
- The problem? - It doesn't care.

5289
04:55:25,080 --> 04:55:27,840
- Is he? - That you are creating

5290
04:55:27,840 --> 04:55:30,040
a situation where you're making this accusation,

5291
04:55:30,040 --> 04:55:31,640
that I'm dishonest, that I'm gaslighting.

5292
04:55:31,640 --> 04:55:33,760
- Uh oh. - Like it is a situation.

5293
04:55:33,760 --> 04:55:35,840
And this is what happens when you go into debates

5294
04:55:35,840 --> 04:55:38,680
with like Destiny or Hutch. - Hutch, yep.

5295
04:55:38,680 --> 04:55:40,200
- Like as soon as they start losing the debate,

5296
04:55:40,200 --> 04:55:42,080
they start going into bad faith mode,

5297
04:55:42,080 --> 04:55:43,640
where they go after your reputation.

5298
04:55:43,640 --> 04:55:45,240
Like you're gaslighting, you're lying,

5299
04:55:45,240 --> 04:55:46,560
you're getting triggered.

5300
04:55:46,560 --> 04:55:47,880
You do that.

5301
04:55:47,880 --> 04:55:50,520
And this whole endeavor is supposed to be a place

5302
04:55:50,520 --> 04:55:53,400
where we like do things in good faith,

5303
04:55:53,400 --> 04:55:55,760
where we try to take the other person's perspective

5304
04:55:55,760 --> 04:55:59,120
into mind, and I feel that you're failing at that

5305
04:55:59,120 --> 04:56:00,360
in certain areas.

5306
04:56:00,360 --> 04:56:02,200
So I'm sorry if it's uncomfortable with me saying that,

5307
04:56:02,200 --> 04:56:04,400
but you did say that I was gaslighting.

5308
04:56:04,400 --> 04:56:05,760
- Yeah. - So.

5309
04:56:05,760 --> 04:56:07,360
- Okay.

5310
04:56:07,360 --> 04:56:09,520
- It was unclear what your position was.

5311
04:56:09,520 --> 04:56:12,260
'Cause I put the poll up and ask people, so.

5312
04:56:12,260 --> 04:56:14,080
- What round is the round seven?

5313
04:56:14,080 --> 04:56:16,200
- I don't know, but we got a minute and a half upstream left, so.

5314
04:56:16,200 --> 04:56:17,960
- For the $10, $20.

5315
04:56:17,960 --> 04:56:18,920
Thank you, PC, for the $5.

5316
04:56:18,920 --> 04:56:20,760
Thank you to Janet for the $10.

5317
04:56:20,760 --> 04:56:22,840
Thank you to Rock Monster for the other $10.

5318
04:56:22,840 --> 04:56:24,440
Say, I read those.

5319
04:56:24,440 --> 04:56:27,360
- The people can't distinguish between the,

5320
04:56:27,360 --> 04:56:29,360
I don't care in the political debate,

5321
04:56:29,360 --> 04:56:32,360
and I do care when my friends call me a liar.

5322
04:56:32,360 --> 04:56:33,280
That's when I care, okay?

5323
04:56:33,280 --> 04:56:34,480
That's a completely different thing.

5324
04:56:34,480 --> 04:56:37,520
I do care when such goes into like bad things.

5325
04:56:37,520 --> 04:56:38,360
- I said, I didn't think about it.

5326
04:56:38,360 --> 04:56:40,360
- I'm not saying that you're lying.

5327
04:56:40,360 --> 04:56:42,360
- I said that I'm not saying that you're lying.

5328
04:56:42,360 --> 04:56:43,200
- Okay.

5329
04:56:43,200 --> 04:56:44,720
- I should have said, I feel like I'm gaslighting that.

5330
04:56:44,720 --> 04:56:46,040
- This is why I'm feeling in a very,

5331
04:56:46,040 --> 04:56:47,960
this is why I'm feeling in a very unforgiving mood,

5332
04:56:47,960 --> 04:56:49,400
is because I do care about that,

5333
04:56:49,400 --> 04:56:50,400
and I should care about that.

5334
04:56:50,400 --> 04:56:52,120
If I came on the show, like I said,

5335
04:56:52,120 --> 04:56:53,800
and was assigning such a position,

5336
04:56:53,800 --> 04:56:56,880
and was just intrangidant on what his position was,

5337
04:56:56,880 --> 04:56:58,160
I would be a dick.

5338
04:56:58,160 --> 04:57:00,320
Sitch is evidently allowed to be a dick, so.

5339
04:57:03,920 --> 04:57:05,480
- Okay.

5340
04:57:05,480 --> 04:57:06,720
Anyways, I'm not gonna read the rest of your chats.

5341
04:57:06,720 --> 04:57:07,960
Hope you all had a wonderful night.

5342
04:57:07,960 --> 04:57:09,560
- Look, you have to read the rest of this.

5343
04:57:09,560 --> 04:57:10,400
- I'm not.

5344
04:57:10,400 --> 04:57:11,640
I'm done.

5345
04:57:11,640 --> 04:57:14,080
You are incapable of just letting shig out.

5346
04:57:14,080 --> 04:57:14,920
I'm trying to be--

5347
04:57:14,920 --> 04:57:17,160
(laughing)

5348
04:57:17,160 --> 04:57:19,000
- Oh, that's the, yeah.

5349
04:57:19,000 --> 04:57:19,840
- No, that's it.

5350
04:57:19,840 --> 04:57:21,680
(laughing)

5351
04:57:21,680 --> 04:57:23,840
- No. - Oh, man.

5352
04:57:26,400 --> 04:57:27,240
- Well.

5353
04:57:31,880 --> 04:57:33,200
- Fucking bullshit.

5354
04:57:33,200 --> 04:57:34,880
- What do you want him to say?

5355
04:57:34,880 --> 04:57:36,040
- I wanted to hear the rest of that.

5356
04:57:36,040 --> 04:57:37,360
He was going off, man.

5357
04:57:40,840 --> 04:57:43,040
- Dan and I, we would finish our goddamn argument.

5358
04:57:43,040 --> 04:57:43,880
- Yeah, I bet.

5359
04:57:43,880 --> 04:57:45,360
- Like men, like men.

5360
04:57:48,760 --> 04:57:52,360
All right, oh boy.

5361
04:57:52,360 --> 04:57:53,440
- You sure you don't want to get a red bull

5362
04:57:53,440 --> 04:57:54,280
for that?

5363
04:57:54,280 --> 04:57:55,480
- The Pokémain Deep Thick Scandal is back

5364
04:57:55,480 --> 04:57:57,440
and it's crazier and messier than ever.

5365
04:57:57,440 --> 04:57:58,680
- Oh, not again.

5366
04:57:58,680 --> 04:57:59,520
- Yup.

5367
04:57:59,520 --> 04:58:01,160
- The Pokémain Deep Thick Scandal is back and it's--

5368
04:58:01,160 --> 04:58:02,160
- That's what I'm about to do.

5369
04:58:02,160 --> 04:58:03,000
- Good luck.

5370
04:58:04,080 --> 04:58:06,400
- The biggest crime that Pokémain's done

5371
04:58:06,400 --> 04:58:08,280
is put the fucking highlighter shit on her face.

5372
04:58:08,280 --> 04:58:10,000
I hate that goddamn shit.

5373
04:58:10,000 --> 04:58:10,840
- Whoa.

5374
04:58:13,000 --> 04:58:14,720
- It's crazier and messier than ever.

5375
04:58:14,720 --> 04:58:16,520
Israel's record setting election could be the end

5376
04:58:16,520 --> 04:58:18,120
of Netanyahu, but there's also a lot

5377
04:58:18,120 --> 04:58:19,000
that people are missing here.

5378
04:58:19,000 --> 04:58:20,240
Trump's post midterm around war planet

5379
04:58:20,240 --> 04:58:21,240
is scarier than most realized.

5380
04:58:21,240 --> 04:58:22,960
We go inside the $1,000 course teaching parents

5381
04:58:22,960 --> 04:58:23,880
to erase their kids.

5382
04:58:23,880 --> 04:58:24,920
We're talking about all of that even more

5383
04:58:24,920 --> 04:58:26,440
on today's brand new Philip DeFranco show

5384
04:58:26,440 --> 04:58:28,160
"Daily Dive" into the news, starting with this.

5385
04:58:28,160 --> 04:58:29,000
The fate of the United States

5386
04:58:29,000 --> 04:58:30,560
is being decided over the next seven days,

5387
04:58:30,560 --> 04:58:32,040
changing what is it on for the next two to six years.

5388
04:58:32,040 --> 04:58:33,000
But also in the midst of all this,

5389
04:58:33,000 --> 04:58:34,160
there's been this side story on the internet

5390
04:58:34,160 --> 04:58:35,240
that's absolutely blown up.

5391
04:58:35,240 --> 04:58:36,560
With some saying, "Hey, this is just an internet drama,"

5392
04:58:36,560 --> 04:58:38,200
and others saying, "No, it actually goes much deeper than that."

5393
04:58:38,200 --> 04:58:39,520
This is actually heavily requested over the text line.

5394
04:58:39,520 --> 04:58:40,560
So let's talk about this situation.

5395
04:58:40,560 --> 04:58:42,320
This scandal, this backlash with Pokémain,

5396
04:58:42,320 --> 04:58:49,560
Atriak, Cutie, Cinderella, Ludwig, and more,

5397
04:58:49,560 --> 04:58:52,120
and they're all big internet personalities in their own right.

5398
04:58:52,120 --> 04:58:55,120
And as far as Pokémain, you've seen her getting absolutely torn apart on parts of the internet right now, right?

5399
04:58:55,120 --> 04:58:57,320
Some defending her and others calling her a serial liar,

5400
04:58:57,320 --> 04:58:59,320
people saying that she's weaponizing a situation that's not about her,

5401
04:58:59,320 --> 04:59:01,320
and you've also got other controversial big streamers like Asmon Gold,

5402
04:59:01,320 --> 04:59:03,320
claiming that she's trying to farm negative hate against her friends.

5403
04:59:03,320 --> 04:59:05,320
And as far as wires saying this play out,

5404
04:59:05,320 --> 04:59:06,320
it's because she has finally spoken out in detail

5405
04:59:06,320 --> 04:59:07,320
about a controversy from a few years back

5406
04:59:07,320 --> 04:59:09,320
where you went Atriak accidentally exposing the fact

5407
04:59:09,320 --> 04:59:11,320
that he had deep fake porn of her on his computer.

5408
04:59:11,320 --> 04:59:13,320
It was a few streamers and a few images, including ones of Pokémain,

5409
04:59:13,320 --> 04:59:14,320
were visible on the page.

5410
04:59:14,320 --> 04:59:15,320
And there was a ton of fallout from this,

5411
04:59:15,320 --> 04:59:17,320
where he issued a big apology promising to cover the financial costs

5412
04:59:17,320 --> 04:59:18,320
of any takedown efforts.

5413
04:59:18,320 --> 04:59:19,320
But it obviously struck a nerve,

5414
04:59:19,320 --> 04:59:20,320
and you had people like Cutie Cinderella

5415
04:59:20,320 --> 04:59:22,320
really condemning this and explaining how serious this exploitation is

5416
04:59:22,320 --> 04:59:23,320
and how it hurts women.

5417
04:59:23,320 --> 04:59:24,320
And for her part of the time,

5418
04:59:24,320 --> 04:59:25,320
all Pokémain really said was,

5419
04:59:25,320 --> 04:59:26,320
"Stop sexualizing people without their consent."

5420
04:59:26,320 --> 04:59:28,320
But then what you had this week was that she brought it up on a stream

5421
04:59:28,320 --> 04:59:30,320
but saying that she'd been seeing Atriak pop up both online

5422
04:59:30,320 --> 04:59:32,320
and at events, and it brings up a lot of complicated feelings for her.

5423
04:59:32,320 --> 04:59:33,320
I think just because of what happened,

5424
04:59:33,320 --> 04:59:37,320
it gives me a lot of discomfort and anxiety.

5425
04:59:37,320 --> 04:59:39,320
And I think like the first few times that this happened,

5426
04:59:39,320 --> 04:59:42,320
I tried to kind of just ignore the feeling and process it on my own.

5427
04:59:42,320 --> 04:59:45,320
And that doesn't really help.

5428
04:59:45,320 --> 04:59:49,320
Dude, I've become the number one Pokéhater overnight.

5429
04:59:49,320 --> 04:59:51,320
Like all the mannerisms, the cutesy,

5430
04:59:51,320 --> 04:59:54,320
like the ultra-para-social relation with the audience,

5431
04:59:54,320 --> 04:59:55,320
but like while you're dealing with topics,

5432
04:59:55,320 --> 04:59:57,320
while you're trying to destroy somebody else's career,

5433
04:59:57,320 --> 04:59:59,320
the weaponization of like the white girl cycle language.

5434
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:01,880
Like, I'm so, oh my God, dude,

5435
05:00:01,880 --> 05:00:04,120
I'm turning into an insult just every time I--

5436
05:00:05,960 --> 05:00:06,880
- I think it's one of those things

5437
05:00:06,880 --> 05:00:08,320
that just like signals to my brain like--

5438
05:00:08,320 --> 05:00:09,760
- Like the vapid shallow engagement

5439
05:00:09,760 --> 05:00:10,960
with the subject matter.

5440
05:00:11,920 --> 05:00:13,200
- You are not safe here.

5441
05:00:13,200 --> 05:00:14,240
And usually this is the kind of thing

5442
05:00:14,240 --> 05:00:17,320
that like I would not even talk about publicly,

5443
05:00:17,320 --> 05:00:19,640
but because everything has been so public,

5444
05:00:19,640 --> 05:00:21,960
I figured it's probably okay to at least

5445
05:00:21,960 --> 05:00:23,680
talk to my community about it.

5446
05:00:23,680 --> 05:00:28,200
And just ask like, if anyone's been in a similar situation.

5447
05:00:28,200 --> 05:00:29,800
- You understand that it was better to just get it off

5448
05:00:29,800 --> 05:00:31,280
or chest than to let boil inside.

5449
05:00:31,280 --> 05:00:32,280
Anyway, following this up, the next day,

5450
05:00:32,280 --> 05:00:33,360
both on Twitter and on stream,

5451
05:00:33,360 --> 05:00:34,920
fearing that her comments were being misunderstood.

5452
05:00:34,920 --> 05:00:36,160
First writing, when he was first caught

5453
05:00:36,160 --> 05:00:38,240
looking at paywall deep fake content of female streamers,

5454
05:00:38,240 --> 05:00:39,920
it seems people forgot that the specific page shown

5455
05:00:39,920 --> 05:00:40,920
on his stream was of me.

5456
05:00:40,920 --> 05:00:41,960
Saying I didn't say it much at the time

5457
05:00:41,960 --> 05:00:43,680
because I was so uncomfortable publicly humiliated

5458
05:00:43,680 --> 05:00:44,840
and I didn't think it needed explaining

5459
05:00:44,840 --> 05:00:46,120
because it was so obviously wrong.

5460
05:00:46,120 --> 05:00:47,160
And you were writing that while she appreciates

5461
05:00:47,160 --> 05:00:49,280
that he spent thousands of dollars to remove deep fake content,

5462
05:00:49,280 --> 05:00:51,080
it's not about the money and it's something she herself

5463
05:00:51,080 --> 05:00:52,480
has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on as well.

5464
05:00:52,480 --> 05:00:53,880
And then also with this, she said she's not trying

5465
05:00:53,880 --> 05:00:55,800
to cancel anyone or be the arbiter of who can do what.

5466
05:00:55,800 --> 05:00:56,920
Saying I'm simply sharing my feelings

5467
05:00:56,920 --> 05:00:59,480
about something that publicly happened to me in the ways in which it's affecting me today.

5468
05:00:59,480 --> 05:01:00,840
Saying as he's become more involved in events

5469
05:01:00,840 --> 05:01:03,000
and with people close to me, I've grown particularly uncomfortable.

5470
05:01:03,000 --> 05:01:04,520
As far as I know, no one has really checked in

5471
05:01:04,520 --> 05:01:06,160
with the women affected about how it makes them feel.

5472
05:01:06,160 --> 05:01:07,200
Other people forgiving him is their choice,

5473
05:01:07,200 --> 05:01:09,440
but it doesn't mean I can't share my perspective on it as well.

5474
05:01:09,440 --> 05:01:10,280
And then adding.

5475
05:01:10,280 --> 05:01:11,120
- I would not be bringing this up.

5476
05:01:11,120 --> 05:01:13,800
I don't wanna talk about this, nasty.

5477
05:01:13,800 --> 05:01:14,680
But I wouldn't be bringing this up

5478
05:01:14,680 --> 05:01:16,960
if it wasn't something I was repeatedly coming across.

5479
05:01:16,960 --> 05:01:18,080
Gives me like a pit in my stomach.

5480
05:01:18,080 --> 05:01:19,480
I also think for me personally,

5481
05:01:19,480 --> 05:01:21,600
there's been a lot of like cognitive dissonance,

5482
05:01:21,600 --> 05:01:22,680
seeing people be.

5483
05:01:22,680 --> 05:01:23,520
- He doesn't mention destiny.

5484
05:01:23,520 --> 05:01:25,760
I would be shocked to be mentioned to me at all on this

5485
05:01:25,760 --> 05:01:28,080
because his son mind fucks a lot of stupid shit

5486
05:01:28,080 --> 05:01:28,920
into Philly's brain.

5487
05:01:28,920 --> 05:01:31,000
And I know that he's told him as much as possible.

5488
05:01:31,000 --> 05:01:33,560
Don't mention destiny, don't mention destiny 100%.

5489
05:01:33,560 --> 05:01:36,240
I'd be surprised if he brings me up at any point in any of this.

5490
05:01:36,240 --> 05:01:39,040
Even though that one tweet was quoting my take on it, which was funny.

5491
05:01:39,040 --> 05:01:41,280
- Like my friends and people I've known for years

5492
05:01:41,280 --> 05:01:42,680
be put in close proximity with him

5493
05:01:42,680 --> 05:01:45,760
just because that's a natural kind of part of the industry.

5494
05:01:45,760 --> 05:01:49,440
I think it's like, it makes me feel some type of way I can't lie.

5495
05:01:49,440 --> 05:01:51,840
I'm like, wait, so do they agree with me or do they not?

5496
05:01:51,840 --> 05:01:53,360
'Cause it's okay for someone to disagree with me.

5497
05:01:53,360 --> 05:01:54,840
- Right with this saying that if she never saw him again,

5498
05:01:54,840 --> 05:01:55,680
she would never bring it up again.

5499
05:01:55,680 --> 05:01:57,560
But with this saying she just can't get past that discomfort

5500
05:01:57,560 --> 05:01:59,440
and she just wants to express it in a non-reactive way

5501
05:01:59,440 --> 05:02:00,280
to get it off her chest.

5502
05:02:00,280 --> 05:02:01,160
In a mind, a lot of the reaction you've had

5503
05:02:01,160 --> 05:02:02,200
are people assuming that she's referring

5504
05:02:02,200 --> 05:02:03,920
to Ludwig and Cudi Cinderella's recent wedding

5505
05:02:03,920 --> 05:02:05,440
because Atrioc was reportedly one of the many creators

5506
05:02:05,440 --> 05:02:06,280
that were in attendance.

5507
05:02:06,280 --> 05:02:07,120
Right, depending on where you look, like I said,

5508
05:02:07,120 --> 05:02:08,520
there are very, very different reactions

5509
05:02:08,520 --> 05:02:09,360
to Pokemon's comments.

5510
05:02:09,360 --> 05:02:10,440
There was some seemingly furious with her

5511
05:02:10,440 --> 05:02:11,880
for bringing this up, trying to claim that she's mad

5512
05:02:11,880 --> 05:02:12,840
that she wasn't invited to the wedding

5513
05:02:12,840 --> 05:02:14,240
and she's trying to ruin Atrioc's life.

5514
05:02:14,240 --> 05:02:16,080
Some arguing that even though what Atrioc did was wrong,

5515
05:02:16,080 --> 05:02:17,560
he's apologized and has worked to try to remedy

5516
05:02:17,560 --> 05:02:18,800
the situation and correct his mistakes,

5517
05:02:18,800 --> 05:02:20,280
saying things like maybe talk to your friends privately

5518
05:02:20,280 --> 05:02:27,320
about how it makes you feel instead of grandstanding

5519
05:02:27,320 --> 05:02:28,160
on your live stream.

5520
05:02:28,160 --> 05:02:30,080
- Because you're lying, you're trying to farm negative hate

5521
05:02:30,080 --> 05:02:32,080
on Cudi and Ludwig for inviting Atrioc

5522
05:02:32,080 --> 05:02:34,000
because Atrioc looked at deep fake porn of you.

5523
05:02:34,000 --> 05:02:36,080
That's, and the thing is that Pokey's right,

5524
05:02:36,080 --> 05:02:38,800
she is valid for this, and she can have whatever opinion

5525
05:02:38,800 --> 05:02:41,120
on it that she wants, but don't even for a second

5526
05:02:41,120 --> 05:02:43,080
talk about how you weren't trying to make them look bad.

5527
05:02:43,080 --> 05:02:44,960
- True, hey, that almost sounds like my take.

5528
05:02:44,960 --> 05:02:46,200
- Because you absolutely were.

5529
05:02:46,200 --> 05:02:47,200
- Well, so you have others who think

5530
05:02:47,200 --> 05:02:48,560
that Pokemon is fully in her right,

5531
05:02:48,560 --> 05:02:50,400
so that she shouldn't have to explain herself and argue it.

5532
05:02:50,400 --> 05:02:51,360
If a guy at work was caught creating

5533
05:02:51,360 --> 05:02:53,080
AI porn of his co-workers, he'd be fired.

5534
05:02:53,080 --> 05:02:56,280
- One million percent Hassan aligned,

5535
05:02:56,280 --> 05:03:00,160
one million percent Hassan aligned.

5536
05:03:00,160 --> 05:03:01,480
Pixie's probably one of the people

5537
05:03:01,480 --> 05:03:03,640
that has contributed the most to the republishing

5538
05:03:03,640 --> 05:03:06,720
of all of my fucking revenge porn leaks

5539
05:03:06,720 --> 05:03:08,000
and then other women that were involved

5540
05:03:08,000 --> 05:03:09,360
because she didn't want to get soft on it

5541
05:03:09,360 --> 05:03:10,440
or whatever the fuck.

5542
05:03:10,440 --> 05:03:11,280
- Then called a creep.

5543
05:03:11,280 --> 05:03:12,480
No one would expect his co-workers to forgive him

5544
05:03:12,480 --> 05:03:14,200
and any employee trying to include him in social events

5545
05:03:14,200 --> 05:03:15,280
would be given serious side up

5546
05:03:15,280 --> 05:03:16,520
and asking why is it different when it's a streamer.

5547
05:03:16,520 --> 05:03:17,520
As well as if I caught a friend

5548
05:03:17,520 --> 05:03:19,120
where acquaintance with fake AI porn of me,

5549
05:03:19,120 --> 05:03:20,320
it would take literal decades for me

5550
05:03:20,320 --> 05:03:21,160
to feel comfortable with them again.

5551
05:03:21,160 --> 05:03:22,160
Saying she's a hundred percent valid.

5552
05:03:22,160 --> 05:03:23,480
It's pretty disappointing that her friends didn't think

5553
05:03:23,480 --> 05:03:25,160
about how she'd feel before collaborating with them.

5554
05:03:25,160 --> 05:03:26,000
And then with that, you have people noting that--

5555
05:03:26,000 --> 05:03:27,280
- There are so many, it's so funny

5556
05:03:27,280 --> 05:03:29,440
'cause there are so many huge tweets about this.

5557
05:03:29,440 --> 05:03:31,040
I think Hassan might have retweeted hers.

5558
05:03:31,040 --> 05:03:33,160
Her tweet at 2.2000 likes.

5559
05:03:33,160 --> 05:03:35,200
It was crazy that hers just happened to be the one

5560
05:03:35,200 --> 05:03:37,480
that popped up here.

5561
05:03:37,480 --> 05:03:38,640
(laughs)

5562
05:03:38,640 --> 05:03:40,240
That's pretty funny, dude.

5563
05:03:40,240 --> 05:03:41,800
Oh, man.

5564
05:03:41,800 --> 05:03:43,520
- I think the deep fake porn is a form of sexual abuse.

5565
05:03:43,520 --> 05:03:44,720
Saying that if you have it in you to forgive the man

5566
05:03:44,720 --> 05:03:45,880
who spread it, you should have some empathy

5567
05:03:45,880 --> 05:03:46,800
for the victim's harmed by it.

5568
05:03:46,800 --> 05:03:47,640
And then with this, you have some argument

5569
05:03:47,640 --> 05:03:49,080
in the fact that people are mad at Pokemon

5570
05:03:49,080 --> 05:03:50,320
and accusing her of starting a hate train,

5571
05:03:50,320 --> 05:03:51,800
it highlights how women constantly get blamed

5572
05:03:51,800 --> 05:03:53,480
for situations when men are the ones that are in the wrong.

5573
05:03:53,480 --> 05:03:54,320
Right, and then with all this,

5574
05:03:54,320 --> 05:03:55,320
you also had Atrioc responding.

5575
05:03:55,320 --> 05:03:56,680
And even though he didn't name Pokemon,

5576
05:03:56,680 --> 05:03:57,760
it was clear that he was talking about it.

5577
05:03:57,760 --> 05:03:59,240
And he basically said that he fully understands her

5578
05:03:59,240 --> 05:04:00,760
and doesn't feel entitled to anyone's forgiveness.

5579
05:04:00,760 --> 05:04:03,920
- I'm not fighting, I'm not pushing back on any of it.

5580
05:04:03,920 --> 05:04:06,120
Those feelings are totally valid, sincerely.

5581
05:04:06,120 --> 05:04:09,880
I looked at a deep fake website on January 26, 2023.

5582
05:04:09,880 --> 05:04:11,120
It was a bad thing to do.

5583
05:04:11,120 --> 05:04:12,640
I wish I didn't do it.

5584
05:04:12,640 --> 05:04:14,400
I've never stood up for it.

5585
05:04:14,400 --> 05:04:15,400
I've never tried to defend myself.

5586
05:04:15,400 --> 05:04:16,280
I never tried to downplay.

5587
05:04:16,280 --> 05:04:17,920
It was bad.

5588
05:04:17,920 --> 05:04:20,800
And if that makes you uncomfortable.

5589
05:04:20,800 --> 05:04:23,080
- Why not call Philly out or reach out directly?

5590
05:04:23,080 --> 05:04:24,960
Well, I can't, I have no contact with him.

5591
05:04:24,960 --> 05:04:26,040
And Hassan talks to him directly.

5592
05:04:26,040 --> 05:04:28,800
He has not talked so much about how he talks to him directly.

5593
05:04:28,800 --> 05:04:30,760
But yeah, I don't have a line to fill it anywhere.

5594
05:04:30,760 --> 05:04:32,120
I think I've tried to email him or contact him before,

5595
05:04:32,120 --> 05:04:33,520
but I don't have any connection.

5596
05:04:33,520 --> 05:04:35,600
- Or you, it's totally valid.

5597
05:04:35,600 --> 05:04:36,440
It's 100% valid.

5598
05:04:36,440 --> 05:04:39,040
There is no Konami code for forgiveness.

5599
05:04:39,040 --> 05:04:40,800
There's no like right sequence of actions that you do it

5600
05:04:40,800 --> 05:04:41,880
and they're like, okay, now you have to forgive me.

5601
05:04:41,880 --> 05:04:42,960
That's not how it works.

5602
05:04:42,960 --> 05:04:43,960
If you don't forgive me,

5603
05:04:43,960 --> 05:04:45,240
you are fully within your right to do that.

5604
05:04:45,240 --> 05:04:46,440
Or you had him saying that all he's trying to do

5605
05:04:46,440 --> 05:04:48,320
is to prove that it's not who he is and rebuild trust.

5606
05:04:48,320 --> 05:04:49,960
And noting that he doesn't want anyone to use him

5607
05:04:49,960 --> 05:04:51,360
as some kind of weapon to attack others.

5608
05:04:51,360 --> 05:04:52,200
And then with all this,

5609
05:04:52,200 --> 05:04:53,480
you had him deciding to drop out of a Twitch con panel

5610
05:04:53,480 --> 05:04:54,280
and not attend this year

5611
05:04:54,280 --> 05:04:55,960
just to not cause any further discomfort.

5612
05:04:55,960 --> 05:04:57,160
- That feels like the only area I would go

5613
05:04:57,160 --> 05:04:58,040
where there would be crossover.

5614
05:04:58,040 --> 05:04:59,160
And so I'm just not going to go there.

5615
05:04:59,160 --> 05:04:59,960
- And so is this, you know, it's,

5616
05:05:00,000 --> 05:05:02,800
continues to play out and develop. I would love to know your thoughts, opinions, and

5617
05:05:02,800 --> 05:05:05,680
takes you right on the debate around it, how it played out on the initial content.

5618
05:05:05,680 --> 05:05:09,040
Chances are it's just Philly D staff member, I bet Philly's the writer editor. Have we not?

5619
05:05:10,400 --> 05:05:13,680
We've watched on stream with us on getting upset and like texting or contacting

5620
05:05:14,400 --> 05:05:18,320
Phil DeFranco before. We've seen this happen before. He does this with almost every other content

5621
05:05:18,320 --> 05:05:21,520
creator. He's done it with Nick Paulum when he says things are streaming doesn't like he's

5622
05:05:21,520 --> 05:05:25,600
done it with obviously he got Ludwig to remove and repost a video that he didn't like.

5623
05:05:26,720 --> 05:05:31,920
He popped into a day in Clancy. Obviously yeah. I remember when Dean Withers and Parker were going

5624
05:05:31,920 --> 05:05:37,280
to go over I think was the Ethan Hassan hit piece maybe Hassan popped into their TikTok live to

5625
05:05:37,280 --> 05:05:41,920
chat with them to like massage their brains before they review things like this is just his way of

5626
05:05:41,920 --> 05:05:48,480
practicing politics I guess or yeah. Controversy, Pokey's reaction, the backlash with Atriaka had

5627
05:05:48,480 --> 05:05:51,520
to say any and all of it really. But then jumping from that to other news we've got to talk about

5628
05:05:51,520 --> 05:06:10,720
the United States maybe on the verge of another major escalation in wait. Do you have a

5629
05:06:10,720 --> 05:06:22,960
a track response in here at all? Um, a track response. Uh, four minute thing you put this is really all the way at the bottom. I'm so really 10

5630
05:06:22,960 --> 05:06:28,880
minute ads are beeping somewhere in my apartment. I don't have some things like unplug once I got it straight. I'm crazy. Hold on. Uh,

5631
05:06:28,880 --> 05:06:38,560
Steve here's a beeping that ain't good. It reminds him of when he used to live in the hood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

5632
05:06:41,520 --> 05:07:10,080
Yeah. Israel's coming. BB's mad. He's going to get you for fucking your dad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey everybody. Patreon.com slash the blue or sorry slash blue wave. We're looking for five patrons in order to start the donals. That's just business. That's just business.

5633
05:07:10,080 --> 05:07:32,080
We have our first guest for October. Sorry for November. 13th. Mr. Dennis Porter. Based in Iran, because we're weeks now. You had Trump suggesting the possibility of a meeting about this.

5634
05:07:32,080 --> 05:07:48,080
How long was a tracks full response? I didn't watch it.

5635
05:07:48,080 --> 05:08:18,000
Newton's a sneaky little bitch. Uh oh. You know why? You know why? He's a fucking sneaky little cuck. Do you know why? Why? Because when he went to the stage, you know what he did on his way back home. Got a red bull. He bought red bulls. No, no, no, not even true. He bought several red bull. Several. She's lying. Shut up. Let me see. Let me speak. Six is definitely several.

5636
05:08:18,000 --> 05:08:40,000
He's trying to work here. Let me speak. Okay. Now, here's what happened. Okay. A couple of days ago, he goes into his backpack and he pulls out three red bulls. He's like, by the way, babe, I have these, but like I have to drink them now because I got them in the States.

5637
05:08:40,000 --> 05:08:58,000
And he puts them into our fridge. Okay. Gasps. Red Bull in our fridge. It's fair. Okay. He has to drink them now, though, because they're from the States, so they'll expire. No, no. So what I said, he said that he actually bought those for you.

5638
05:08:58,000 --> 05:09:12,000
I did. He bought them for you and that he just forgot to give them to you. So we're going to bring them to San Antonio. No, we're not. And we're going to return them because they're yours. They're wild.

5639
05:09:12,000 --> 05:09:27,000
I think he did. I remember he did say that when we were tearing down. We were tearing down and he's like, I got a bunch of red bull for you, but I just packed my stuff and then that case had cracked. So I was putting more cords from that in my other case. So I didn't have enough for the Red Bull. So I told him to hold on to him.

5640
05:09:27,000 --> 05:09:38,000
What? I told him to hold on to it. But you want them back, though? I probably, the thing is I'm now on sugar free Red Bull, so I probably would never drink those, unfortunately.

5641
05:09:38,000 --> 05:09:49,000
Are you sugar free, my love? No, those are one of them was one of them. Oh, my God, you got the sugary Red Bull's, my love. Well, because that's what I was drinking before. That's what I like. He was buying them for me.

5642
05:09:49,000 --> 05:09:59,000
Told you. Okay, so we'll bring the one sugar free one for you. Well, I drink the sugar free yellow ones. So it's a whole thing. Yeah.

5643
05:10:00,000 --> 05:10:01,560
- Oh, damn it.

5644
05:10:01,560 --> 05:10:03,480
- The regular ones on the BDS list, so.

5645
05:10:03,480 --> 05:10:04,320
- Yeah.

5646
05:10:04,320 --> 05:10:05,160
- Got it.

5647
05:10:05,160 --> 05:10:06,000
That's a shame.

5648
05:10:06,000 --> 05:10:08,040
I guess I'll just have to start drinking rutful

5649
05:10:08,040 --> 05:10:10,320
at that temptation under this house.

5650
05:10:10,320 --> 05:10:11,240
- You don't want to drink those

5651
05:10:11,240 --> 05:10:13,040
because they were at the mail only section.

5652
05:10:13,040 --> 05:10:15,120
They are loaded up with a little bit of extra tea

5653
05:10:15,120 --> 05:10:16,960
to give you big wings.

5654
05:10:16,960 --> 05:10:17,960
- No.

5655
05:10:17,960 --> 05:10:19,960
- And those can hyper exaggerate.

5656
05:10:20,800 --> 05:10:21,640
- Neck issues.

5657
05:10:21,640 --> 05:10:22,480
- Conditions, yeah.

5658
05:10:22,480 --> 05:10:24,040
Neck issues for sure.

5659
05:10:24,040 --> 05:10:24,880
- For sure.

5660
05:10:24,880 --> 05:10:26,240
- 'Cause testosterone causes a thickening

5661
05:10:26,240 --> 05:10:27,080
of the vocal cords.

5662
05:10:27,080 --> 05:10:28,440
So if you have any preexisting neck things,

5663
05:10:28,440 --> 05:10:29,440
it can kind of mess with that.

5664
05:10:29,440 --> 05:10:30,720
So I would stay away from that.

5665
05:10:30,720 --> 05:10:32,840
- And also your voice would drop.

5666
05:10:32,840 --> 05:10:34,040
- Well, I was thinking about you dying,

5667
05:10:34,040 --> 05:10:36,840
but yeah, I mean, that would happen too, yeah, so.

5668
05:10:36,840 --> 05:10:39,080
Yeah, be careful with that.

5669
05:10:39,080 --> 05:10:41,920
- Okay, yeah, sorry to interrupt your excitement here.

5670
05:10:41,920 --> 05:10:42,760
- Wait, hold on one second,

5671
05:10:42,760 --> 05:10:44,920
I'm getting my food is here one second.

5672
05:10:46,360 --> 05:10:47,920
- All right guys, let me see if we can get the,

5673
05:10:47,920 --> 05:10:50,080
oh, nobody has subscribed to the Patreon.

5674
05:10:50,080 --> 05:10:51,720
No donos, all right.

5675
05:10:51,720 --> 05:10:53,320
Okay.

5676
05:10:53,320 --> 05:10:54,160
Yikes.

5677
05:10:56,000 --> 05:10:58,480
Yes, IRI is not gonna be able to eat this week.

5678
05:10:58,480 --> 05:10:59,840
It's all right, he's skinny enough.

5679
05:10:59,840 --> 05:11:00,660
He'll be okay.

5680
05:11:01,720 --> 05:11:02,560
That's fine.

5681
05:11:04,880 --> 05:11:07,320
- Are you having a Red Bull tonight, my dear?

5682
05:11:07,320 --> 05:11:08,160
- No.

5683
05:11:10,800 --> 05:11:11,840
I got a stream in the morning

5684
05:11:11,840 --> 05:11:13,000
and it's nine o'clock already,

5685
05:11:13,000 --> 05:11:15,320
but there's no fucking football on tonight.

5686
05:11:15,320 --> 05:11:17,240
And I don't care about the Major League anymore

5687
05:11:17,240 --> 05:11:18,360
'cause my team's out.

5688
05:11:20,560 --> 05:11:22,760
- Oh no, the Brown's got disqualified?

5689
05:11:22,760 --> 05:11:25,640
- No Major League Baseball,

5690
05:11:25,640 --> 05:11:29,240
the Guardians, AKA the Indians got disqualified.

5691
05:11:29,240 --> 05:11:30,600
- Oh, the Brewers are about to sweep.

5692
05:11:30,600 --> 05:11:31,760
This is boring.

5693
05:11:34,360 --> 05:11:35,680
- Boring.

5694
05:11:37,200 --> 05:11:39,880
Watch NBA, I will not, I refuse.

5695
05:11:39,880 --> 05:11:42,880
NBA is literally the worst professional sport

5696
05:11:42,880 --> 05:11:45,280
on in existence right now.

5697
05:11:45,280 --> 05:11:49,560
The amount of fucking stupid fouls that are called,

5698
05:11:49,560 --> 05:11:54,200
the slow, the stoppages, it's unwatchable.

5699
05:11:54,200 --> 05:11:56,120
It's unwatchable right now.

5700
05:11:57,800 --> 05:12:00,880
I refuse to watch NBA until they fix the fucking game.

5701
05:12:02,920 --> 05:12:05,520
I'd rather, I would genuinely rather watch a golf.

5702
05:12:07,680 --> 05:12:08,520
Thank you.

5703
05:12:08,520 --> 05:12:11,080
The dragons are fucking lit to Kai Rann

5704
05:12:11,080 --> 05:12:15,440
and one mo dog for joining the Blue Wave Patreon.

5705
05:12:16,400 --> 05:12:19,240
It's called the National Basketball Association.

5706
05:12:19,240 --> 05:12:20,080
- Oh.

5707
05:12:21,960 --> 05:12:23,800
- Did you just see the dude break his leg on TV?

5708
05:12:23,800 --> 05:12:26,600
No one watches basketball to watch people break their legs.

5709
05:12:27,920 --> 05:12:29,400
- Mr. Moon is a racist.

5710
05:12:29,400 --> 05:12:30,240
- True.

5711
05:12:30,240 --> 05:12:33,680
- And supports a team that has a literal rapist as his QB.

5712
05:12:33,680 --> 05:12:35,520
He did not rape anyone.

5713
05:12:35,520 --> 05:12:37,360
He sexually assaulted many women.

5714
05:12:37,360 --> 05:12:39,040
He didn't rape.

5715
05:12:39,040 --> 05:12:39,880
There's a difference.

5716
05:12:39,880 --> 05:12:41,000
- They're both bad.

5717
05:12:41,000 --> 05:12:43,560
- They're, well, yeah, they're both bad.

5718
05:12:43,560 --> 05:12:45,240
- Don't, don't go,

5719
05:12:45,240 --> 05:12:46,920
I'll tell you no, no, no, no.

5720
05:12:46,920 --> 05:12:48,480
- One is worse.

5721
05:12:48,480 --> 05:12:50,120
- Of course one is worse, yeah.

5722
05:12:52,840 --> 05:12:54,800
- Well, actually, would you?

5723
05:12:56,240 --> 05:13:01,080
- Thank you to Irvin and meet, be, for joy, be in Irvin.

5724
05:13:01,080 --> 05:13:01,920
All right, hold on.

5725
05:13:01,920 --> 05:13:03,040
Let me turn the donos on.

5726
05:13:04,240 --> 05:13:05,600
- Did you just like, TTF?

5727
05:13:05,600 --> 05:13:07,160
Very good job, everybody.

5728
05:13:12,080 --> 05:13:15,400
- Just memes the, ah, children are into these days.

5729
05:13:15,400 --> 05:13:18,620
So here goes, ah, Aristotle, Pepper Turtle.

5730
05:13:18,620 --> 05:13:21,800
Ah, ah, Aristotle, Pepper Turtle.

5731
05:13:21,800 --> 05:13:23,520
- Aristotle, Pepper Turtle.

5732
05:13:23,520 --> 05:13:24,360
- May I watch hockey?

5733
05:13:24,360 --> 05:13:25,200
We're now, yeah, I am.

5734
05:13:25,200 --> 05:13:26,040
- Yeah, I am.

5735
05:13:26,040 --> 05:13:26,880
- Aristotle, Pepper Turtle.

5736
05:13:26,880 --> 05:13:29,040
Ah, Aristotle, Pepper Turtle.

5737
05:13:31,440 --> 05:13:33,480
- Oh, there, I'll watch some hockey.

5738
05:13:33,480 --> 05:13:36,560
- Were you a restortling or were you pepper-turtling?

5739
05:13:36,560 --> 05:13:39,120
- Ah, I don't know.

5740
05:13:39,120 --> 05:13:42,040
- Aerostortling, or pepper-turtling.

5741
05:13:42,040 --> 05:13:44,040
- Ah, aerostortling.

5742
05:13:44,040 --> 05:13:45,760
- So you do know the difference.

5743
05:13:45,760 --> 05:13:48,100
(screaming)

5744
05:13:51,100 --> 05:13:52,940
- Eggie, eggie, eggie.

5745
05:13:52,940 --> 05:13:53,760
- Eggie, eggie.

5746
05:13:53,760 --> 05:13:55,440
- It's to save their Kylie and Matthew.

5747
05:13:55,440 --> 05:13:56,280
- Eggie, eggie.

5748
05:13:56,280 --> 05:13:58,480
- You might, for a soundboard thing,

5749
05:13:58,480 --> 05:14:00,520
be able to do Steve, 'cause he did a,

5750
05:14:00,520 --> 05:14:02,120
somebody donated with an Aerostortle, Pepper Turtle,

5751
05:14:02,120 --> 05:14:02,960
for him, so.

5752
05:14:04,120 --> 05:14:05,480
- We might be able to do Steve?

5753
05:14:05,480 --> 05:14:08,480
- Yeah, he has a, he did an Aerostortle, Pepper Turtle.

5754
05:14:08,480 --> 05:14:09,560
The breaking news guy.

5755
05:14:09,560 --> 05:14:10,560
- Steve.

5756
05:14:10,560 --> 05:14:12,760
- Oh, that's awesome.

5757
05:14:12,760 --> 05:14:13,960
I didn't know that.

5758
05:14:13,960 --> 05:14:16,360
- All right, Atriax response.

5759
05:14:16,360 --> 05:14:17,960
- But, I don't know, I don't have a ton to say.

5760
05:14:17,960 --> 05:14:20,240
To be honest, so here's what I'm gonna say.

5761
05:14:20,240 --> 05:14:21,080
- Oh boy.

5762
05:14:21,080 --> 05:14:23,440
- I wish to come as a surprise to anybody.

5763
05:14:23,440 --> 05:14:26,600
I saw the posts that were going viral today.

5764
05:14:26,600 --> 05:14:28,400
And again, in something that should not be

5765
05:14:28,400 --> 05:14:31,020
a surprise to anyone, I agree with them.

5766
05:14:31,020 --> 05:14:34,840
I'm not fighting, I'm not pushing back on any of it.

5767
05:14:36,360 --> 05:14:38,280
Those feelings are totally valid.

5768
05:14:38,280 --> 05:14:41,520
Sincerely, there, I have no problem

5769
05:14:41,520 --> 05:14:42,740
with someone saying that.

5770
05:14:43,920 --> 05:14:48,560
That, listen, my position from the beginning

5771
05:14:48,560 --> 05:14:51,400
is that I looked at a fucking deep fake website

5772
05:14:51,400 --> 05:14:53,680
on January 26th, 2023.

5773
05:14:53,680 --> 05:14:55,240
It was a bad thing to do.

5774
05:14:55,240 --> 05:14:57,140
I wish I didn't do it.

5775
05:14:57,140 --> 05:14:59,360
I've never stood up for it.

5776
05:14:59,360 --> 05:15:00,200
I've never tried.

5777
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:01,760
defend myself, I never tried to downplay.

5778
05:15:01,760 --> 05:15:03,780
It was fucking bad.

5779
05:15:03,780 --> 05:15:07,500
And if that makes you uncomfortable,

5780
05:15:07,500 --> 05:15:10,300
or you, it's totally valid.

5781
05:15:10,300 --> 05:15:11,380
It's 100% valid.

5782
05:15:11,380 --> 05:15:14,620
I've never ever disagreed with that.

5783
05:15:14,620 --> 05:15:17,540
So what I've tried to do.

5784
05:15:21,220 --> 05:15:22,380
- Okay, wait, nevermind.

5785
05:15:22,380 --> 05:15:24,140
Okay, well, we have to look at the other links

5786
05:15:24,140 --> 05:15:26,260
and then we'll listen to his response.

5787
05:15:26,260 --> 05:15:27,760
- No.

5788
05:15:27,760 --> 05:15:29,060
- Yes, that's what we're doing.

5789
05:15:29,060 --> 05:15:29,900
- All right.

5790
05:15:36,500 --> 05:15:38,480
39 daft decided to jump into this.

5791
05:15:43,540 --> 05:15:45,540
We saw her going to Africa now.

5792
05:15:45,540 --> 05:15:46,380
- Oh, you already saw her.

5793
05:15:46,380 --> 05:15:47,700
- I think we watched her thing.

5794
05:15:49,060 --> 05:15:52,140
Someone who paid for and consumed tons of deep fake point

5795
05:15:52,140 --> 05:15:54,260
of friends and colleagues crosses an unforgivable line

5796
05:15:54,260 --> 05:15:56,620
for many people, women in the scene, especially,

5797
05:15:56,620 --> 05:15:58,380
because they already had to deal with so much

5798
05:15:58,380 --> 05:16:01,220
non-consensual sexualization.

5799
05:16:01,220 --> 05:16:02,380
Who was 39 daft?

5800
05:16:04,100 --> 05:16:07,460
Somebody who never became as popular as extra Emily

5801
05:16:07,460 --> 05:16:09,380
or a fan fan and has hated her life ever

5802
05:16:09,380 --> 05:16:12,020
since she failed to make it, basically.

5803
05:16:12,020 --> 05:16:13,500
There's other things, but I don't know

5804
05:16:13,500 --> 05:16:14,340
that much about him.

5805
05:16:14,340 --> 05:16:15,340
That's just my, that's my perception.

5806
05:16:15,340 --> 05:16:18,180
What do you want me to say?

5807
05:16:18,180 --> 05:16:19,620
Somebody who paid for it, okay, blah, blah, blah.

5808
05:16:19,620 --> 05:16:22,280
I don't, this is a weird way of framing this, but okay.

5809
05:16:26,660 --> 05:16:28,860
The most disturbing part is how you mistake your inability

5810
05:16:28,860 --> 05:16:30,620
to forgive for moral superiority.

5811
05:16:30,620 --> 05:16:31,780
You don't want accountability or growth.

5812
05:16:31,780 --> 05:16:32,860
You want someone permanently condemned

5813
05:16:32,860 --> 05:16:34,380
so you can feel righteous.

5814
05:16:34,380 --> 05:16:35,220
Just to be clear on this,

5815
05:16:35,220 --> 05:16:37,900
you don't have to necessarily, I mean, forgive someone.

5816
05:16:40,540 --> 05:16:41,980
- Do that blow 'em up every few years?

5817
05:16:41,980 --> 05:16:43,580
- Yeah, you just like, but you don't,

5818
05:16:43,580 --> 05:16:45,220
like to be on the offense constantly.

5819
05:16:45,220 --> 05:16:46,660
One of the things that's the most annoying thing

5820
05:16:46,660 --> 05:16:48,820
about like victims is people really do view victims

5821
05:16:48,820 --> 05:16:49,980
as being able to do no wrong.

5822
05:16:49,980 --> 05:16:52,580
Like you can absolutely go over the top

5823
05:16:52,580 --> 05:16:54,420
in terms of your response to something,

5824
05:16:54,420 --> 05:16:56,500
but especially when it comes to like sex related stuff,

5825
05:16:56,500 --> 05:16:58,500
people are like, no, everything is fair.

5826
05:16:58,500 --> 05:17:00,180
Like you can do anything, no matter what,

5827
05:17:00,180 --> 05:17:01,500
no matter what happened.

5828
05:17:04,460 --> 05:17:05,900
- Nobody asked you to forgive him, his friends did,

5829
05:17:05,900 --> 05:17:06,740
and that's their choice.

5830
05:17:06,740 --> 05:17:09,260
You keep repeating what he did, as if nobody knows.

5831
05:17:09,260 --> 05:17:10,740
He fucked up, took responsibility, made amends,

5832
05:17:10,740 --> 05:17:12,220
what exactly do you want, a lifetime sentence?

5833
05:17:12,220 --> 05:17:14,040
His friends forgave him,

5834
05:17:14,040 --> 05:17:15,940
proceeded to invite him to many public events

5835
05:17:15,940 --> 05:17:18,380
and collaborations with people who did not.

5836
05:17:18,380 --> 05:17:19,540
Does it make sense for you yet?

5837
05:17:19,540 --> 05:17:20,500
Is that true though?

5838
05:17:21,860 --> 05:17:24,540
Is anybody besides Pokey talking about this?

5839
05:17:27,340 --> 05:17:28,460
I think it was just Pokey,

5840
05:17:28,460 --> 05:17:30,660
is the only person I've seen mentioned this, so.

5841
05:17:38,340 --> 05:17:39,620
The Sharon Todelman is insane.

5842
05:17:39,620 --> 05:17:41,900
If you don't forgive him, don't associate with him,

5843
05:17:41,900 --> 05:17:43,460
but expecting everyone else to cut him off

5844
05:17:43,460 --> 05:17:44,620
because you feel uncomfortable,

5845
05:17:44,620 --> 05:17:45,580
the world doesn't revolve in you.

5846
05:17:45,580 --> 05:17:47,780
Other people are allowed to make their own decisions.

5847
05:17:47,780 --> 05:17:49,980
Oh, so it still doesn't make sense yet.

5848
05:17:49,980 --> 05:17:51,180
I'll explain it to you.

5849
05:17:51,180 --> 05:17:52,980
I'll explain it in simpler terms for you.

5850
05:17:52,980 --> 05:17:54,300
People express in private,

5851
05:17:54,300 --> 05:17:55,940
they are uncomfortable with this presence,

5852
05:17:55,940 --> 05:17:57,820
but feel pressure against voicing it.

5853
05:17:57,820 --> 05:17:59,340
It's not about me, hope that helps.

5854
05:17:59,340 --> 05:18:00,900
Who, besides Pokey?

5855
05:18:00,900 --> 05:18:02,860
Are we just inventing people here or?

5856
05:18:07,980 --> 05:18:10,540
Is there anybody, is that even true or?

5857
05:18:10,540 --> 05:18:12,220
They're saying women are afraid to speak up

5858
05:18:12,220 --> 05:18:14,580
because they might lose connections with influential people

5859
05:18:14,580 --> 05:18:17,340
who chose to forgive him.

5860
05:18:17,340 --> 05:18:20,780
Then why not call out those allegedly creating that pressure?

5861
05:18:20,780 --> 05:18:22,980
You're so close to getting to a Godspeed.

5862
05:18:22,980 --> 05:18:24,340
Oh my God.

5863
05:18:26,820 --> 05:18:29,100
He's, it's fucking Weinstein, dude.

5864
05:18:29,100 --> 05:18:32,840
Holy, it's fucking Atriac Weinstein.

5865
05:18:33,740 --> 05:18:35,120
Oh my God.

5866
05:18:52,700 --> 05:18:54,340
You shouldn't be welcome back into the space.

5867
05:18:54,340 --> 05:18:55,780
He can hang out with some people in private

5868
05:18:55,780 --> 05:18:57,780
if they choose, if they so choose.

5869
05:18:57,780 --> 05:18:59,780
He makes a lot of women rightfully uncomfortable.

5870
05:18:59,780 --> 05:19:01,540
This is already an awful space for women.

5871
05:19:01,540 --> 05:19:04,020
Why make it worse for them to speak out?

5872
05:19:04,020 --> 05:19:05,620
You didn't even know if you consumed the content,

5873
05:19:05,620 --> 05:19:06,540
you're just assuming he did.

5874
05:19:06,540 --> 05:19:07,380
I think he did.

5875
05:19:07,380 --> 05:19:08,380
I think he admitted as much.

5876
05:19:15,860 --> 05:19:17,060
Yeah, I mean, probably.

5877
05:19:20,980 --> 05:19:22,020
Well, I know, I think he said,

5878
05:19:22,020 --> 05:19:23,860
I think he admitted as much, yeah.

5879
05:19:24,700 --> 05:19:26,580
You think I, someone who had private convos

5880
05:19:26,580 --> 05:19:28,540
with Cutie and Maya and Pokey about this

5881
05:19:28,540 --> 05:19:30,620
wouldn't know the depth of it?

5882
05:19:41,900 --> 05:19:42,740
Alarma.

5883
05:19:46,580 --> 05:19:48,020
I thought we saw this one.

5884
05:19:55,700 --> 05:19:58,700
One space is specifically made to accommodate for him

5885
05:19:58,700 --> 05:19:59,700
and people like him.

5886
05:20:00,000 --> 05:20:07,400
Because of who he's lucky to be friends with most women uncomfortable by it do not speak out in fear of black list slash power dynamics

5887
05:20:12,600 --> 05:20:18,140
The I've heard beeping in the background all day outside somewhere, and it's gonna fucking drive me insane. Oh my god

5888
05:20:20,880 --> 05:20:22,880
That's okay, though

5889
05:20:24,380 --> 05:20:28,880
That's on Buddha. Yeah, true. He got me. He got the beep yachi band outside beeping

5890
05:20:30,000 --> 05:20:32,000
I

5891
05:20:32,000 --> 05:20:37,760
Don't think anybody's making specific accommodations for a track though unless you're saying like just him being there counts as an accommodation

5892
05:20:39,900 --> 05:20:41,900
But okay, oh

5893
05:20:42,520 --> 05:20:46,680
We got a good friend Mike from PA jumping on the drama. Oh my god, brah

5894
05:20:49,720 --> 05:20:57,840
Sorry you're going through this bullshit, Pokey. You're completely valid. This industry rushes to rehabilitate people over making sure victims are made whole

5895
05:21:00,720 --> 05:21:05,100
You've got our queen Caroline quan here. Pokemon does not owe a track forgiveness. Nobody ever said she did

5896
05:21:05,400 --> 05:21:13,220
Nor does she need to justify her feelings regarding a situation which she was violated and victimized by non-consensual sexual images of her Jesus

5897
05:21:13,780 --> 05:21:18,960
Nobody said that she needed to justify her feelings either as a reminder digital deepfakes of this kind or the most common

5898
05:21:19,260 --> 05:21:25,020
Mostly targeted mostly target women and girls and are classified as a form of digital tech-enabled sexual abuse

5899
05:21:25,660 --> 05:21:33,300
Just because the images and videos are what that's the word that Pokey. Yes said that she learned. Yeah, she must have been talking to Caroline possibly

5900
05:21:38,460 --> 05:21:43,060
Just because the images and videos are fake does not mean that the harm isn't real

5901
05:21:43,620 --> 05:21:46,460
He apologized. He took accountability great

5902
05:21:46,700 --> 05:21:50,880
Perhaps though in your endless well of charitableity for the man who caused this harm

5903
05:21:50,880 --> 05:21:55,620
You can reserve some of that empathy for the women who were victimized by those damaging actions

5904
05:21:56,420 --> 05:21:58,420
Okay

5905
05:21:59,860 --> 05:22:03,520
Has anybody said is that have any of these big streamers said I guess what they want to happen then basically

5906
05:22:03,520 --> 05:22:07,280
Oh, I guess the I guess daft kind of did right. He's just never be allowed to any public event ever again

5907
05:22:11,740 --> 05:22:14,780
Could Pokey have like sued him if she wanted to no

5908
05:22:16,060 --> 05:22:18,780
Jenna Lynn meowry a shame

5909
05:22:19,420 --> 05:22:25,300
You have to even explain yourself on this topic deepfakes remove autonomy and his actions removed trust stay safe and know

5910
05:22:25,300 --> 05:22:28,500
Your discomfort isn't misplaced. Okay. Nobody said otherwise

5911
05:22:29,780 --> 05:22:34,100
Exhausted from seeing creators having to explain why deepfakes made without their consent make them uncomfortable

5912
05:22:34,460 --> 05:22:37,900
Or actually I guess maybe there are some people saying this is gonna be retards on the other end, but

5913
05:22:38,660 --> 05:22:40,660
but okay

5914
05:22:45,100 --> 05:22:47,660
Should he kill himself or does the 100k he spent me nothing

5915
05:22:48,420 --> 05:22:52,900
How do these two instances you've provided coincide? He took steps to try to make amends good for him

5916
05:22:52,900 --> 05:22:57,780
She's still allowed to feel uncomfortable about an interaction where her autonomy was removed man

5917
05:22:57,780 --> 05:23:00,140
We're really stretching what autonomy means here, but okay

5918
05:23:02,340 --> 05:23:07,980
Also, nobody's talked about feeling uncomfortable. You're you're allowed to feel uncomfortable forever. That's not what we're talking about though, but okay

5919
05:23:08,940 --> 05:23:14,100
Correct me if I'm wrong by all means, but nowhere. Did I see her calling for his death? Okay? Good job

5920
05:23:22,900 --> 05:23:33,300
What if I think about you naked? I'm literally deep faking you in my mind is that okay, or you're going to try to police my thoughts

5921
05:23:33,860 --> 05:23:38,900
What a lovely example of using the straw man fallacy. I've also included an example picture in case you don't understand

5922
05:23:38,900 --> 05:23:41,220
What I mean by straw man fallacy hopes that hope this helps

5923
05:23:42,100 --> 05:23:44,100
okay

5924
05:23:50,300 --> 05:23:55,300
This is like the lefty Vtuber weirdo loser the nara Vt or whatever

5925
05:23:58,500 --> 05:24:03,820
People trying to normalize non-consensual porn Jesus Christ, bro. We love the words man

5926
05:24:04,500 --> 05:24:09,020
People trying to normalize non-consensual porn because it's fictional is just rape culture

5927
05:24:09,940 --> 05:24:11,940
Okay

5928
05:24:17,340 --> 05:24:21,140
She quoted his response honestly didn't expect such a mature response

5929
05:24:21,140 --> 05:24:23,900
Obviously the chuds love any opportunity to normalize rape culture

5930
05:24:23,900 --> 05:24:28,180
But at least he seems to understand that nobody owes him forgiveness and that the victims feelings are valid

5931
05:24:28,460 --> 05:24:29,900
Glad he's trying to be a better person though

5932
05:24:29,900 --> 05:24:35,620
But your feelings are valid by the way if you say shit like this or whatever or like go to therapy

5933
05:24:35,620 --> 05:24:40,860
This is the exact same thing is when conservatives are like thoughts and prayers. It's like the most worthless like

5934
05:24:41,420 --> 05:24:47,260
Virtue slop on the planet. It's just like saying random words to make people feel better without actually contributing anything meaningful to anybody

5935
05:24:47,260 --> 05:24:49,260
And any part of the conversation. I'm sorry, but okay

5936
05:24:49,460 --> 05:24:54,300
If you own bands everyone from Twitter who uses the word should that would turn my opinion around them on them

5937
05:24:55,220 --> 05:24:56,340
really

5938
05:24:56,340 --> 05:24:58,340
Yeah, oh big big time

5939
05:24:59,420 --> 05:25:01,420
That's a lot

5940
05:25:00,000 --> 05:25:02,320
I would take to make your pro nazi yeah

5941
05:25:11,720 --> 05:25:16,920
It's insane to me that people are prioritizing and centering his feelings over the women he hurt and deeply betrayed

5942
05:25:21,520 --> 05:25:28,600
Hold up now oh mix is getting in there that wheezy little fucker a track didn't offer me any money for looking at deepfakes of me

5943
05:25:30,000 --> 05:25:32,380
At least you could have stepped in my fansley hashtag ag add

5944
05:25:32,980 --> 05:25:40,060
By the way not a single fucking streamer including pokey bitch. Okay, fuck these people minks was literally tweeting out

5945
05:25:40,720 --> 05:25:46,760
Fucking pictures of my fucking revenge-borne of people on Twitter and not a single person in the entire twitch sphere gave a fuck

5946
05:25:47,120 --> 05:25:50,260
Just saying minks was literally tweeting that shit out on fucking Maine

5947
05:25:52,680 --> 05:25:57,120
Maybe to my kid. I don't remember if she was tweeting it at Nathan or not. Was she wait a minor?

5948
05:25:57,440 --> 05:26:00,760
Yeah, they don't get it doesn't matter and that nothing in my family or by bloodline count

5949
05:26:00,760 --> 05:26:04,240
You can literally rape and murder my kid and nobody would give a fuck it's but it'd be like well

5950
05:26:04,240 --> 05:26:06,200
Let's talk about what Steve's yeah, unironically

5951
05:26:06,200 --> 05:26:08,120
Yeah, not a single person

5952
05:26:08,120 --> 05:26:12,720
They've had anything to say to make it all for this, but that's fine and based and awesome pretty sure I quote tweeted and complained about it

5953
05:26:12,720 --> 05:26:13,720
But you know

5954
05:26:13,720 --> 05:26:16,760
Is she on twitch still or I think so I

5955
05:26:17,640 --> 05:26:23,400
Think I wait no she might have gotten banned because she's an alcoholic and she had some major like violent crashouts. I think

5956
05:26:24,600 --> 05:26:28,280
That's crazy. Sorry. Don't you shouldn't say poke bitch? Don't call her bitch

5957
05:26:28,280 --> 05:26:32,520
But it is the double center is pretty fucking pretty insane on that, but whatever

5958
05:26:45,400 --> 05:26:50,920
I love us some men will insist women aren't marginalized while we're still being blamed for everything men do take for example

5959
05:26:52,520 --> 05:26:54,520
I don't know okay

5960
05:26:54,760 --> 05:26:59,600
Ethan Klein cheats on his wife with a superfan he hired yet somehow the alleged mistress gets the blame

5961
05:27:00,240 --> 05:27:04,120
Not the married man with a wife and kids and not the person who actually made the vows

5962
05:27:04,600 --> 05:27:06,600
Not the one benefiting from the power imbalance

5963
05:27:09,200 --> 05:27:15,960
Okay, okay, so I'm sure there are people blaming the woman the girl or whatever, but I mean

5964
05:27:23,400 --> 05:27:25,400
Hold on let me just

5965
05:27:25,480 --> 05:27:29,680
I know I'm getting rage-pated. What's the word for that? It's like it's nice. It's like such a not

5966
05:27:30,920 --> 05:27:35,520
Majority of the population even like a minority. It's just like random retards

5967
05:27:37,960 --> 05:27:40,920
So you're fighting ghosts, that's one thing but it's

5968
05:27:47,480 --> 05:27:49,480
This is a well actually thing

5969
05:27:49,800 --> 05:27:53,000
And it triggers me because my chat does it a lot, too. It's when you um

5970
05:27:54,560 --> 05:28:00,080
It's when somebody says something that's true generally speaking, but it doesn't apply to the situation at all

5971
05:28:02,920 --> 05:28:04,920
I'm trying to think of an example like

5972
05:28:09,400 --> 05:28:11,400
Fuck

5973
05:28:11,400 --> 05:28:16,600
I can't think of an example like like you're doing something and you get hurt and then somebody brings up something about like how people

5974
05:28:16,600 --> 05:28:20,920
Usually get hurt doing it because of this reason but like that reason had nothing to do with this and so there's literally no point

5975
05:28:20,920 --> 05:28:22,920
What's so ever in bringing up that particular thing?

5976
05:28:23,320 --> 05:28:29,440
So the phenomenon that she's talking about is actually real that I think I think it's actually one of the weirdest things in the world

5977
05:28:29,440 --> 05:28:35,240
Is that sometimes when people cheat people get really the most of the anger is directed at the person that they cheat with

5978
05:28:35,440 --> 05:28:40,440
Rather than the person who teach which I think is like that's really weird. I don't know why it should be absolutely flops

5979
05:28:41,160 --> 05:28:45,960
Yeah, it's they like they're like oh well the cheat the the person that they're cheating with should have known better like

5980
05:28:45,960 --> 05:28:47,960
Do that it's stupid

5981
05:28:48,080 --> 05:28:49,760
however

5982
05:28:49,760 --> 05:28:51,320
however

5983
05:28:51,320 --> 05:28:53,320
in this case

5984
05:28:54,720 --> 05:29:00,640
The person was a fan of the show got their way on to the show and then their actions contributed to literally the fucking

5985
05:29:00,960 --> 05:29:07,160
Destruction of the show I can understand why people would be upset with this person for things that go beyond like an ordinary cheating reason

5986
05:29:07,160 --> 05:29:09,640
Right this person was literally like a fan who engaged in construction

5987
05:29:09,640 --> 05:29:12,760
But also nobody is giving a free pass to Ethan at this

5988
05:29:12,760 --> 05:29:16,260
I'm pretty sure his shit like got immediately zeroed like one hundred zeroed

5989
05:29:16,800 --> 05:29:22,040
Immediately his life is GG. Yeah, like I don't think anybody's making excuses for Ethan by let me or maybe there are some people

5990
05:29:22,040 --> 05:29:24,920
But I think in all the spaces for the most part. It's like yeah

5991
05:29:29,220 --> 05:29:34,360
Pokemon speaks out about feeling violated after a track was caught looking at sexual deepfakes of her and her other female streamers

5992
05:29:34,360 --> 05:29:37,680
And she gets accused of starting a hate campaign four years later

5993
05:29:39,560 --> 05:29:46,840
four years later as if she owes the man who violated her boundaries forgiveness nobody said that or not nobody big is saying

5994
05:29:46,840 --> 05:29:50,440
I don't know and withholding it somehow makes her the villain nobody said that

5995
05:29:51,240 --> 05:29:56,680
Jane Doe goes to a frat party as college students do and gets sexually assaulted suddenly the conversation becomes about her

5996
05:29:57,000 --> 05:30:00,000
Poor decisions and how holding the perpetrators accountable might really?

5997
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:02,080
ruin the perpetrator's futures, not the assault,

5998
05:30:02,080 --> 05:30:03,280
not the man who committed it, her choice.

5999
05:30:03,280 --> 05:30:05,240
This is like the most random word slop

6000
05:30:05,240 --> 05:30:07,120
I've ever seen in my entire life.

6001
05:30:07,120 --> 05:30:08,720
I don't know if these people like write fan fictions

6002
05:30:08,720 --> 05:30:10,160
and they're just wanna like trial material

6003
05:30:10,160 --> 05:30:12,000
on I don't know what if they're just thinking about this

6004
05:30:12,000 --> 05:30:13,640
and it's just like fun and exciting and silly

6005
05:30:13,640 --> 05:30:16,200
and I don't know what this is, it's just like so stupid.

6006
05:30:16,200 --> 05:30:17,800
How desperate everybody is to like,

6007
05:30:17,800 --> 05:30:19,640
I mean you'd be a part of the whole narrative

6008
05:30:19,640 --> 05:30:22,480
on everything, everything is blah, blah, blah, blah.

6009
05:30:22,480 --> 05:30:23,440
This is patriarchy.

6010
05:30:23,440 --> 05:30:24,800
This is what it looks like.

6011
05:30:24,800 --> 05:30:26,680
Men are given endless grace, excuses,

6012
05:30:26,680 --> 05:30:27,800
and the benefit of the doubt.

6013
05:30:27,800 --> 05:30:29,320
While women are expected to carry the blame,

6014
05:30:29,320 --> 05:30:30,840
manage the fallout and protect the feelings

6015
05:30:30,840 --> 05:30:31,920
and futures of the very men who harm them.

6016
05:30:31,920 --> 05:30:33,840
Like, this happens sometimes.

6017
05:30:33,840 --> 05:30:36,040
Neither of these situations are that.

6018
05:30:36,040 --> 05:30:37,720
Neither of these situations are that though.

6019
05:30:37,720 --> 05:30:40,760
So like it's so stupid.

6020
05:30:40,760 --> 05:30:42,560
And if women refuse to play along,

6021
05:30:42,560 --> 05:30:43,840
then we're accused of being vindictive,

6022
05:30:43,840 --> 05:30:45,880
unreasonable, or hysterical, right, da, da, da,

6023
05:30:45,880 --> 05:30:47,080
rape culture doesn't exist in a vacuum.

6024
05:30:47,080 --> 05:30:48,320
It's reinforced by the everyday massager

6025
05:30:48,320 --> 05:30:49,440
you know that teachers to empathize

6026
05:30:49,440 --> 05:30:50,920
with the men who cause harm

6027
05:30:50,920 --> 05:30:53,000
while scrutinizing the women who experienced it.

6028
05:30:53,000 --> 05:30:55,040
If your first instinct is to protect a man's reputation

6029
05:30:55,040 --> 05:30:56,160
instead of questioning his behavior,

6030
05:30:56,160 --> 05:30:57,280
you're not being fair or objective.

6031
05:30:57,280 --> 05:30:58,320
You're reinforcing the exact culture

6032
05:30:58,320 --> 05:30:59,440
that allows her to continue to do better.

6033
05:30:59,440 --> 05:31:00,560
Jesus Christ.

6034
05:31:08,320 --> 05:31:09,160
Stupid.

6035
05:31:16,880 --> 05:31:17,720
Yahoo!

6036
05:31:19,560 --> 05:31:21,080
He invited the guy who paid money

6037
05:31:21,080 --> 05:31:22,800
to jerk off to AI porn of his wife,

6038
05:31:22,800 --> 05:31:26,280
to his wedding, 18,000 likes, damn.

6039
05:31:29,320 --> 05:31:33,320
Oh, we've got a, oh, another wonderful lefty trying to--

6040
05:31:37,240 --> 05:31:40,440
If the guy at work was caught creating AI porn

6041
05:31:40,440 --> 05:31:43,600
of his coworkers, he'd be fired and called a creep.

6042
05:31:43,600 --> 05:31:45,520
So Aitraq was not creating it.

6043
05:31:45,520 --> 05:31:47,800
He was still jerking off, so it was just weird.

6044
05:31:47,800 --> 05:31:48,600
Or not good.

6045
05:31:49,600 --> 05:31:50,960
But also we don't work for Twitch.

6046
05:31:50,960 --> 05:31:52,840
I think if you work for Twitch, I think it'd be fired.

6047
05:31:52,840 --> 05:31:53,680
But I guess she's implying

6048
05:31:53,680 --> 05:31:55,760
that he should have been perma-band.

6049
05:31:55,760 --> 05:31:58,360
No one would expect his coworkers to forgive him.

6050
05:31:58,360 --> 05:31:59,520
Nobody's saying that.

6051
05:31:59,520 --> 05:32:00,600
Any employee trying to include him

6052
05:32:00,600 --> 05:32:03,720
in social events would be given serious side-eye.

6053
05:32:03,720 --> 05:32:05,240
I mean, it depends on the,

6054
05:32:05,240 --> 05:32:07,240
it depends on what we're talking about, but okay.

6055
05:32:07,240 --> 05:32:09,000
Why is it different when it's a streamer?

6056
05:32:09,000 --> 05:32:10,880
'Cause I'm not employed by the same company working

6057
05:32:10,880 --> 05:32:13,160
in a shared work environment constantly that like,

6058
05:32:13,160 --> 05:32:15,800
yeah, I know this is really hard for some people.

6059
05:32:15,800 --> 05:32:17,720
Rehabilitative justice is not just spending money

6060
05:32:17,720 --> 05:32:18,760
to clear your reputation.

6061
05:32:18,760 --> 05:32:20,760
It's a serious acknowledgement of what you did wrong

6062
05:32:20,760 --> 05:32:22,960
and working with the victims based on their timelines

6063
05:32:22,960 --> 05:32:24,240
and on their criteria.

6064
05:32:24,240 --> 05:32:25,840
I've had to right your wrongs.

6065
05:32:25,840 --> 05:32:27,640
Like I know this is like an impossible position

6066
05:32:27,640 --> 05:32:29,640
for anybody to take, but like victims

6067
05:32:29,640 --> 05:32:31,520
are not always right about everything.

6068
05:32:31,520 --> 05:32:32,960
Like just because you've been victimized by a thing

6069
05:32:32,960 --> 05:32:34,840
doesn't mean you have infinite carte blanche.

6070
05:32:34,840 --> 05:32:36,040
It is funny 'cause I remember my debate

6071
05:32:36,040 --> 05:32:37,240
with Tara Reed over her.

6072
05:32:37,240 --> 05:32:38,440
That was her position.

6073
05:32:38,440 --> 05:32:41,760
If anybody remembers the, if you have trauma,

6074
05:32:41,760 --> 05:32:43,160
then you can infinitely lie about anything

6075
05:32:43,160 --> 05:32:44,600
and it might always just be a trauma response.

6076
05:32:44,600 --> 05:32:46,440
There's literally absolutely no wrong that you can do

6077
05:32:46,440 --> 05:32:47,920
if you're a traumatized.

6078
05:32:47,920 --> 05:32:49,160
Probably one of the most retarded debates

6079
05:32:49,160 --> 05:32:50,720
I've ever had in my entire life.

6080
05:32:52,360 --> 05:32:55,920
But yeah, it starts with speaking to the victims

6081
05:32:55,920 --> 05:32:57,080
and if the victims don't want to speak with you,

6082
05:32:57,080 --> 05:32:58,120
letting them know you're, I mean he did,

6083
05:32:58,120 --> 05:33:00,760
a drag did do this with Cuteed and I think with Maya.

6084
05:33:01,720 --> 05:33:03,320
I don't know about Poggi or not.

6085
05:33:05,280 --> 05:33:07,160
Letting them know you're willing to do the work necessary

6086
05:33:07,160 --> 05:33:08,960
to repair the damage when they're ready.

6087
05:33:08,960 --> 05:33:11,680
Skipping straight to, I spent money taking down these websites

6088
05:33:11,680 --> 05:33:13,640
when the victims have spent an incredible amount of money

6089
05:33:13,640 --> 05:33:16,160
to, this is a lie, is trying to jump straight

6090
05:33:16,160 --> 05:33:18,320
to repair phase of rehabilitative justice

6091
05:33:18,320 --> 05:33:20,400
instead of starting at the foundational relationship level

6092
05:33:20,400 --> 05:33:22,880
of rehabilitative justice is retarded as far.

6093
05:33:22,880 --> 05:33:24,000
He didn't skip straight to anything.

6094
05:33:24,000 --> 05:33:25,440
I'm pretty sure he took a month and a half off

6095
05:33:25,440 --> 05:33:27,880
while working with the people that were victimized

6096
05:33:27,880 --> 05:33:30,000
before he even came back to streaming, but.

6097
05:33:32,800 --> 05:33:33,640
Good one.

6098
05:33:39,800 --> 05:33:41,400
The normy take.

6099
05:33:41,400 --> 05:33:43,480
- I've gone to the same amount of quirk hits as Jane Doe.

6100
05:33:43,480 --> 05:33:44,320
Wahoo!

6101
05:33:44,320 --> 05:33:45,320
- Shut the fuck up.

6102
05:33:48,440 --> 05:33:50,760
- You just wait until we manage to self-driving yourself.

6103
05:33:50,760 --> 05:33:51,920
- What did you say?

6104
05:33:54,920 --> 05:33:57,280
- You guys know we're talking about HPE self-driving.

6105
05:33:57,280 --> 05:33:58,960
- It's self-driving when you watch it, man.

6106
05:33:58,960 --> 05:33:59,800
- Why?

6107
05:33:59,800 --> 05:34:00,640
- I love 'em.

6108
05:34:00,640 --> 05:34:01,480
- I love 'em.

6109
05:34:01,480 --> 05:34:02,320
- Pro is a word.

6110
05:34:02,320 --> 05:34:03,320
- It's not for a second.

6111
05:34:04,160 --> 05:34:06,400
- The new Domino is your perfect gaming campaign

6112
05:34:06,400 --> 05:34:09,400
and it's your perfect Minecraft Dungeons 2 companion.

6113
05:34:09,400 --> 05:34:11,320
- Type you out if you want to remember online.

6114
05:34:11,320 --> 05:34:13,360
- You'll unlock an exclusive in-game item.

6115
05:34:13,360 --> 05:34:14,200
- Yeah.

6116
05:34:14,200 --> 05:34:15,320
- You're gonna want one.

6117
05:34:15,320 --> 05:34:16,160
Time for some?

6118
05:34:16,160 --> 05:34:17,000
- Dom.

6119
05:34:17,000 --> 05:34:18,680
- Manoj.

6120
05:34:18,680 --> 05:34:19,520
- So.

6121
05:34:20,720 --> 05:34:22,360
- I think when it was at like 30%,

6122
05:34:24,760 --> 05:34:27,240
I was like, "Nanyahu never loses, boy."

6123
05:34:28,240 --> 05:34:29,080
- No, look at him, man.

6124
05:34:29,080 --> 05:34:30,720
- And I put 100 bucks on him and you know what?

6125
05:34:30,720 --> 05:34:32,240
It's gonna pay off.

6126
05:34:33,240 --> 05:34:35,240
- Wait, how much are you gonna get?

6127
05:34:35,240 --> 05:34:37,480
- I think like 250 if he wins.

6128
05:34:37,480 --> 05:34:38,320
- Oh, you should tell now.

6129
05:34:38,320 --> 05:34:39,160
He's not gonna win.

6130
05:34:39,160 --> 05:34:40,000
- I don't know.

6131
05:34:40,000 --> 05:34:41,280
- It's just, it's Nanyahu.

6132
05:34:41,280 --> 05:34:42,280
I don't know, man.

6133
05:34:42,280 --> 05:34:43,720
I don't know anything about his real apologies.

6134
05:34:43,720 --> 05:34:45,760
I feel like he just always bolts through somehow.

6135
05:34:45,760 --> 05:34:46,600
This motherfucker.

6136
05:34:46,600 --> 05:34:48,120
- He always does.

6137
05:34:48,120 --> 05:34:50,080
- Just know I told you to sell.

6138
05:34:50,080 --> 05:34:50,920
- Okay.

6139
05:34:53,320 --> 05:34:56,240
- Do you guys remember that Atrioc feller?

6140
05:35:00,000 --> 05:35:03,680
"atriarch the content of the--"

6141
05:35:03,680 --> 05:35:10,260
Okay, I'm not giving a positive or negative opinion about Charlie, but I don't know why

6142
05:35:10,260 --> 05:35:13,360
you've labeled this the norm you take when this is like a hardcore politically activated

6143
05:35:13,360 --> 05:35:14,360
person.

6144
05:35:14,360 --> 05:35:15,360
But all right.

6145
05:35:15,360 --> 05:35:27,520
"Content creator, a while ago he was caught on stream watching AID fakes, he had a tab,

6146
05:35:27,520 --> 05:35:32,920
open of AID fakes of his fellow streamers, but specifically, I think it was Pokemon and

6147
05:35:32,920 --> 05:35:38,080
QD Cinderella, and he was looking at AID fake porn of them, and he made an apology video

6148
05:35:38,080 --> 05:35:42,680
with his wife, present, and cried, and by the way, I don't-- you know, if I was married

6149
05:35:42,680 --> 05:35:49,680
and I caught my husband looking at AID fake porn of our friends, I would fucking kill

6150
05:35:49,680 --> 05:35:50,680
him.

6151
05:35:50,680 --> 05:35:55,240
I would maybe like commit a violent crime, I'm not going to lie, because not only is it

6152
05:35:55,240 --> 05:36:00,160
so creepy, and gross, and predatory, it's also pathetic."

6153
05:36:00,160 --> 05:36:01,160
"Credatory?"

6154
05:36:01,160 --> 05:36:02,160
"Okay."

6155
05:36:02,160 --> 05:36:06,280
"It is also one of the most pathetic ways to be a creep, that I would be so repulsed

6156
05:36:06,280 --> 05:36:11,000
by it that I would literally just-- I would make go crazy, and commit a violent crime,

6157
05:36:11,000 --> 05:36:12,000
in Minecraft."

6158
05:36:12,000 --> 05:36:13,000
"Okay.

6159
05:36:13,000 --> 05:36:16,000
That's-- okay, definitely not--"

6160
05:36:16,000 --> 05:36:18,000
"We came up with that, by the way."

6161
05:36:18,000 --> 05:36:19,000
"True, we did."

6162
05:36:19,000 --> 05:36:22,640
"For something that Plevio had to resign his government officer and for a president,

6163
05:36:22,640 --> 05:36:25,160
now that he lost he has no immunity as a sitting officer of the government, that's

6164
05:36:25,160 --> 05:36:26,160
fucking awesome."

6165
05:36:26,160 --> 05:36:28,560
"I love that Cinetech."

6166
05:36:28,560 --> 05:36:33,160
"Anyway, so what he did do to make things right, and this was something good that he

6167
05:36:33,160 --> 05:36:38,440
did do, was he gave-- he spent about $300,000 trying to get--"

6168
05:36:38,440 --> 05:36:39,440
"Was it $300,000?"

6169
05:36:39,440 --> 05:36:41,240
"I thought it was like $100,000."

6170
05:36:41,240 --> 05:36:44,480
"I think he pledged, like, or he said he would do up to $100, and then I think it was confirmed

6171
05:36:44,480 --> 05:36:45,480
that he did around.

6172
05:36:45,480 --> 05:36:47,960
It was like 60 or 70 different things or something, I think, but-- okay."

6173
05:36:47,960 --> 05:36:53,280
"After he was caught, of course, taking down AID fake websites, which is cool and nice,

6174
05:36:53,280 --> 05:36:55,960
you know, that is cool.

6175
05:36:55,960 --> 05:37:03,600
But what he didn't do was remove himself from his victim's social spheres."

6176
05:37:03,600 --> 05:37:05,600
"Oh my god."

6177
05:37:05,600 --> 05:37:08,200
"And he continued making comments."

6178
05:37:08,200 --> 05:37:09,960
"He didn't go become a fucking nun."

6179
05:37:09,960 --> 05:37:14,160
"I don't think that if you are a sexual predator, your life has to be a predator."

6180
05:37:14,160 --> 05:37:15,160
"Sexual predator?"

6181
05:37:15,160 --> 05:37:17,920
"Just like, I understand that we're all on our pendulum swings, but, like, I'm sorry.

6182
05:37:17,920 --> 05:37:21,720
You can't-- like, nobody's gonna feel sad for anybody when, like, the pendulum swings

6183
05:37:21,720 --> 05:37:24,600
back so fucking hard that nobody takes any of this seriously."

6184
05:37:24,600 --> 05:37:29,600
At some point, I don't know if it's like fucking virtue-signally lefty guys, or if it's people

6185
05:37:29,600 --> 05:37:35,320
in charge of cultural spaces, or if it's women online or whatever, you have to be able to

6186
05:37:35,320 --> 05:37:40,560
scale in your head, like, different degrees of harm when it comes to bad sexual things.

6187
05:37:40,560 --> 05:37:45,120
Because this shit is like-- this is the reason why I think it peaked with the Aziz Ansari shit,

6188
05:37:45,120 --> 05:37:47,560
where people were just like, "I don't believe any rape story at all anymore."

6189
05:37:47,560 --> 05:37:49,000
Like, it's because of people like that.

6190
05:37:49,000 --> 05:37:50,000
This is insane.

6191
05:37:50,000 --> 05:37:51,880
You have to calm the fuck down.

6192
05:37:51,880 --> 05:37:58,160
Like, it's a bad thing, and I think we can easily say the least it's creepy and weird.

6193
05:37:58,160 --> 05:38:00,120
I think that we can say pretty fairly.

6194
05:38:00,120 --> 05:38:04,360
It's definitely a violation of somebody's-- something-- I don't always say autonomy is

6195
05:38:04,360 --> 05:38:10,320
a big one, like, a question mark, like, like, how much autonomy extends to, like, the image

6196
05:38:10,320 --> 05:38:11,480
of you and other people's minds.

6197
05:38:11,480 --> 05:38:13,880
I think-- I think there's a good conversation to be had there.

6198
05:38:13,880 --> 05:38:14,880
I don't know why we're just taking it for granted.

6199
05:38:14,880 --> 05:38:17,640
But we're starting to say things like, "You're a sexual predator."

6200
05:38:17,640 --> 05:38:20,120
Like, let's calm-- slow the fuck down.

6201
05:38:20,120 --> 05:38:21,120
Calm the fuck down.

6202
05:38:21,120 --> 05:38:22,120
Jesus Christ.

6203
05:38:22,120 --> 05:38:23,120
Okay?

6204
05:38:23,120 --> 05:38:24,120
Chill.

6205
05:38:24,120 --> 05:38:25,120
Jesus.

6206
05:38:25,120 --> 05:38:26,120
My God.

6207
05:38:26,120 --> 05:38:27,120
Over.

6208
05:38:27,120 --> 05:38:31,240
If you're repentant, you know, like, if you truly see that you've done some fuck shit,

6209
05:38:31,240 --> 05:38:33,640
I don't think that means that you have to die.

6210
05:38:33,640 --> 05:38:38,640
But I do think it means that you have to consider how your victims may feel about seeing your

6211
05:38:38,640 --> 05:38:43,320
face everywhere on the internet, and also, you know, the fact that, like, you hanging

6212
05:38:43,320 --> 05:38:46,320
around their friends.

6213
05:38:46,320 --> 05:38:52,800
You know, I don't think you should come back until everyone is explicitly comfortable with

6214
05:38:52,800 --> 05:38:55,040
that, is what the fuck.

6215
05:38:55,040 --> 05:39:05,480
I don't think that means that you get to continue a, like, a content creator.

6216
05:39:05,480 --> 05:39:13,120
I think at some point it's time to give it up and just get a real job or a normal job

6217
05:39:13,120 --> 05:39:17,880
where you're not going to-- so much influence or, you know, access to truth.

6218
05:39:17,880 --> 05:39:18,880
It's also really--

6219
05:39:18,880 --> 05:39:19,880
It's crazy.

6220
05:39:19,880 --> 05:39:20,880
I know, yeah.

6221
05:39:20,880 --> 05:39:24,160
It's also really cancerous because there's, like, you have to create, like, a space for

6222
05:39:24,160 --> 05:39:29,920
people to come back after making mistakes as well, especially on a thing like this, where

6223
05:39:29,920 --> 05:39:32,920
it's like, it's not-- it's not good.

6224
05:39:32,920 --> 05:39:35,840
It was a bad thing.

6225
05:39:35,840 --> 05:39:38,880
But it's like-- I also don't like-- because I'm pretty sure she's, like, a-- I don't know

6226
05:39:38,880 --> 05:39:42,440
if she's a hardcore leftist or, like, very, very, very progressive.

6227
05:39:42,440 --> 05:39:47,160
But when these guys are, like, always crying about rehabilitative justice and it can't

6228
05:39:47,160 --> 05:39:51,480
be that, you know, prisons are a life's death sentence to everybody involved in them because

6229
05:39:51,480 --> 05:39:55,320
the rates of recidivism are so high and we treat full on these individuals as horrible,

6230
05:39:55,320 --> 05:39:56,320
blah, blah, blah.

6231
05:39:56,320 --> 05:39:59,200
It can't just be that the only time you seem to have compassion is when we're talking about

6232
05:39:59,200 --> 05:40:00,040
poor black people in the world.

6233
05:40:00,000 --> 05:40:01,300
in the United States is fucking retarded.

6234
05:40:01,300 --> 05:40:04,240
Like this is why all of the stupid fucking Jordan Peterson

6235
05:40:04,240 --> 05:40:06,840
shit in the clean your room from the guy who's crying

6236
05:40:06,840 --> 05:40:09,440
because he's addicted to benzos and the Andrew Tate shit,

6237
05:40:09,440 --> 05:40:12,320
the actual sex trafficker dude are people who are catching

6238
05:40:12,320 --> 05:40:13,920
the ears of like all the young white dudes in the United

6239
05:40:13,920 --> 05:40:15,920
States is because this is like the default response

6240
05:40:15,920 --> 05:40:19,040
to everything is crazy.

6241
05:40:19,040 --> 05:40:21,000
It's, oh my god, I don't plan to this.

6242
05:40:21,000 --> 05:40:24,840
But like it's especially crazy coming off of the,

6243
05:40:24,840 --> 05:40:28,920
coming off of the white woman who murdered her three kids

6244
05:40:28,920 --> 05:40:30,840
because of some marital depression shit,

6245
05:40:30,840 --> 05:40:32,520
some post-pider depression can get away

6246
05:40:32,520 --> 05:40:33,960
with murdering her three kids.

6247
05:40:33,960 --> 05:40:35,720
But Atraac needs to fucking kill himself,

6248
05:40:35,720 --> 05:40:37,400
remove stuff from the internet forever.

6249
05:40:37,400 --> 05:40:38,600
We can't live in this world.

6250
05:40:38,600 --> 05:40:42,360
This world is not inhabitable by multiple groups of people.

6251
05:40:42,360 --> 05:40:44,040
Shit is very fucked.

6252
05:40:44,040 --> 05:40:47,200
There's something is not going right here.

6253
05:40:47,200 --> 05:40:48,440
You can't have that.

6254
05:40:48,440 --> 05:40:49,280
It's not working here.

6255
05:40:49,280 --> 05:40:50,440
All right.

6256
05:40:50,440 --> 05:40:51,960
(sighs)

6257
05:40:51,960 --> 05:40:53,880
- That could greatly harm others.

6258
05:40:55,320 --> 05:40:57,340
- It was her take on the--

6259
05:40:57,340 --> 05:40:58,180
- Don't.

6260
05:40:58,180 --> 05:41:01,640
Oh, I don't know.

6261
05:41:01,640 --> 05:41:03,920
Maybe she had a reasonable take on it?

6262
05:41:03,920 --> 05:41:04,760
- I gotta know.

6263
05:41:07,480 --> 05:41:08,320
- Goddamn it.

6264
05:41:08,320 --> 05:41:09,840
Don't make me look this up.

6265
05:41:09,840 --> 05:41:10,680
- Come on.

6266
05:41:13,080 --> 05:41:15,760
How do we know Atraac wasn't in a psychosis?

6267
05:41:17,760 --> 05:41:19,160
- I don't get why people are going crazy

6268
05:41:19,160 --> 05:41:20,360
over the Lindsay Clancy case.

6269
05:41:20,360 --> 05:41:22,320
Even if she's found not guilty by reason of insanity,

6270
05:41:22,320 --> 05:41:24,520
she'll bestow be stuck in some awful mental institution.

6271
05:41:24,520 --> 05:41:26,080
Meanwhile, child trafficker, Elaine Maxwell,

6272
05:41:26,080 --> 05:41:29,700
is at a fancy private prison getting daily puppy therapy.

6273
05:41:30,800 --> 05:41:32,920
Quote, "Men could never kill their kids

6274
05:41:32,920 --> 05:41:34,920
and then get off by being deemed insane."

6275
05:41:34,920 --> 05:41:35,760
End quote.

6276
05:41:35,760 --> 05:41:37,480
This Iowa dad just strangled his son to death.

6277
05:41:37,480 --> 05:41:40,160
Okay, so she seemed to have like the pretty common

6278
05:41:40,160 --> 05:41:42,120
goofy woman take on it.

6279
05:41:42,120 --> 05:41:45,360
So, I don't know, okay.

6280
05:41:45,360 --> 05:41:46,560
- He's a streamer.

6281
05:41:48,840 --> 05:41:51,600
And also, apparently, one of his,

6282
05:41:51,600 --> 05:41:55,280
he was invited to the wedding of the content creators

6283
05:41:55,280 --> 05:41:57,240
Ludwig and cutie Cinderella.

6284
05:41:57,240 --> 05:42:00,320
And cutie Cinderella was one of his victims that he--

6285
05:42:00,320 --> 05:42:03,680
- Like, the language is just crazy.

6286
05:42:03,680 --> 05:42:05,760
I feel like the language is crazy.

6287
05:42:08,460 --> 05:42:11,840
Like, are we better start calling cutie like a survivor?

6288
05:42:11,840 --> 05:42:16,700
Like, I survived, I survived when somebody put deep fake

6289
05:42:16,700 --> 05:42:17,880
porn of me on their monitor.

6290
05:42:17,880 --> 05:42:18,720
Like, I don't know.

6291
05:42:18,720 --> 05:42:20,880
Again, it's bad, but like, we have to be able to speak

6292
05:42:20,880 --> 05:42:23,760
about in scales and degrees of what's going on here.

6293
05:42:23,760 --> 05:42:27,080
Like, this just, that's crazy.

6294
05:42:27,080 --> 05:42:27,920
- He was looking at me.

6295
05:42:27,920 --> 05:42:30,080
- We need better words, I think.

6296
05:42:30,080 --> 05:42:30,920
- I guess.

6297
05:42:30,920 --> 05:42:31,760
- I mean, we have the words.

6298
05:42:31,760 --> 05:42:33,740
- I mean, you can describe it.

6299
05:42:33,740 --> 05:42:35,120
It's just people are just like--

6300
05:42:35,120 --> 05:42:36,880
- They just use the worst word possible.

6301
05:42:36,880 --> 05:42:38,280
- And it's because it's the online world.

6302
05:42:38,280 --> 05:42:40,920
So, people always go like zero to 100 on everything.

6303
05:42:40,920 --> 05:42:43,800
It's just, it is what it is, but Jesus.

6304
05:42:43,800 --> 05:42:44,640
- I know.

6305
05:42:49,760 --> 05:42:50,960
Which is crazy to me.

6306
05:42:54,600 --> 05:42:57,020
Like, I don't think it's up to anyone else to,

6307
05:42:58,040 --> 05:43:00,400
should he have stopped being friends with his other friends

6308
05:43:00,400 --> 05:43:01,480
while he repents?

6309
05:43:02,600 --> 05:43:05,480
- Like, cutie was one of the people on the site.

6310
05:43:05,480 --> 05:43:08,320
I think cutie had the most intense reaction

6311
05:43:09,360 --> 05:43:11,260
to the deep fake porn stuff as well.

6312
05:43:12,480 --> 05:43:15,840
I also think that it's an incredibly subhuman disgusting

6313
05:43:15,840 --> 05:43:20,240
move for her to call cutie and Ludwig crazy

6314
05:43:20,240 --> 05:43:22,080
or invalidate their responses

6315
05:43:22,080 --> 05:43:24,240
because I think it severely undercuts the story

6316
05:43:24,240 --> 05:43:25,880
that these people have where they're like,

6317
05:43:25,880 --> 05:43:28,240
every victim gets to choose how they respond.

6318
05:43:28,240 --> 05:43:29,520
And it's like, oh, okay, well, they did.

6319
05:43:29,520 --> 05:43:31,840
They worked a lot through it, and then she forgave him.

6320
05:43:31,840 --> 05:43:33,760
- And this could be a part of their healing process.

6321
05:43:33,760 --> 05:43:34,600
- Sure. - Ironically.

6322
05:43:34,600 --> 05:43:36,080
- Well, it is, it was for a track.

6323
05:43:36,080 --> 05:43:37,840
'Cause I think it's a good dude, like, unironically.

6324
05:43:37,840 --> 05:43:40,560
I brought all the creepy weirdo fucks online.

6325
05:43:40,560 --> 05:43:42,680
But for her, she's like, no, not like that.

6326
05:43:42,680 --> 05:43:43,800
She was not allowed to forgive him.

6327
05:43:43,800 --> 05:43:45,120
I actually didn't mean that.

6328
05:43:46,080 --> 05:43:48,560
- I think, yeah, maybe stop collaborating with

6329
05:43:48,560 --> 05:43:50,720
and showing up to events where his victims.

6330
05:43:52,080 --> 05:43:52,920
- Are.

6331
05:43:57,200 --> 05:43:58,120
- Is victim the right way?

6332
05:43:58,120 --> 05:43:58,960
- If I found out.

6333
05:44:01,200 --> 05:44:02,240
- I don't know.

6334
05:44:02,240 --> 05:44:04,400
I feel like that has a lot of weight to it.

6335
05:44:04,400 --> 05:44:05,240
- Yeah.

6336
05:44:05,240 --> 05:44:07,480
- But I do think like what Atrioc did was like,

6337
05:44:07,480 --> 05:44:10,920
kind of, it was gross and nasty, but I don't know.

6338
05:44:10,920 --> 05:44:13,080
- Working off to the ideas of me,

6339
05:44:13,080 --> 05:44:15,640
I would never speak to them again,

6340
05:44:15,640 --> 05:44:17,120
and I would never want to look at them again

6341
05:44:17,120 --> 05:44:19,860
because I'd be so disgusted and freaked out.

6342
05:44:21,880 --> 05:44:25,320
- Yeah, and if, honestly, if John Flynn,

6343
05:44:25,320 --> 05:44:26,760
I cannot keep getting away with this,

6344
05:44:26,760 --> 05:44:28,920
you can't hide, Jocelyn, how are you?

6345
05:44:28,920 --> 05:44:31,080
Yeah, and I do think that it is the responsibility

6346
05:44:31,080 --> 05:44:33,680
of his friends to stop that

6347
05:44:36,280 --> 05:44:37,640
and not invite him places.

6348
05:44:37,640 --> 05:44:39,600
But also, if I found out that a friend of mine

6349
05:44:39,600 --> 05:44:43,000
had jerked off to A.I. deep fakes of my wife or girlfriend,

6350
05:44:43,000 --> 05:44:47,360
I would not be able to be around that person

6351
05:44:47,360 --> 05:44:49,360
because I would kill them.

6352
05:44:49,360 --> 05:44:54,360
I would physically assault that person, to be honest,

6353
05:44:55,000 --> 05:44:57,080
for being such a fucking creep and a loser.

6354
05:44:58,560 --> 05:45:00,680
So I'm not saying you have to have no friends.

6355
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:04,420
And isolate yourself, but I'm saying it's like probably stay away from your fucking victims

6356
05:45:06,980 --> 05:45:08,980
I don't know I

6357
05:45:09,940 --> 05:45:13,840
Mean Miss Jessica rabbit he used to be friends with Asmigold any room in tech tones

6358
05:45:16,600 --> 05:45:18,600
She's also bed

6359
05:45:19,160 --> 05:45:21,160
No, no, no, no, no, no, that's the crew

6360
05:45:22,340 --> 05:45:29,720
This is these are the I saw talking points unless I miss unless I'm missing something I haven't seen something the tech tone

6361
05:45:30,320 --> 05:45:32,880
Association is so heavily forced

6362
05:45:34,040 --> 05:45:41,080
Somebody tell me if I if I'm missing it when the fuck has a tech tone been on like Asmigold stream or heavily associated with him

6363
05:45:41,420 --> 05:45:47,560
Well, they had a podcast together steak and eggs. Yeah, but that was a very long time. Yeah, and I got killed didn't it. Yeah. Oh, yeah

6364
05:45:48,800 --> 05:45:50,800
How was that over a year ago?

6365
05:45:51,240 --> 05:45:54,120
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I was like two years ago. I think

6366
05:45:55,200 --> 05:45:58,360
When did sake and eggs podcast stop?

6367
05:46:01,000 --> 05:46:06,160
This these people are always thrown up and Emery was thrown them in there as well

6368
05:46:06,260 --> 05:46:10,440
So like it's Emery and tech tone are always thrown up and then with Asmigold

6369
05:46:10,440 --> 05:46:12,860
I don't like these three are always brought up by the

6370
05:46:13,320 --> 05:46:18,960
The just look lures and the super smart key people because the sun always has to bring up tech tone is a way any and

6371
05:46:18,960 --> 05:46:23,120
Techno is associated with me somehow. You know, I hate I don't even like tech don't I've always hated tech though

6372
05:46:23,280 --> 05:46:25,280
But because we all get like thrown together

6373
05:46:25,840 --> 05:46:30,640
Because we're enemies of a song. It's just it's a tech tone left late 20 anymore. Okay. Yes

6374
05:46:30,640 --> 05:46:34,520
It's so cringing weird and stupid, but this is like a massive Hassan talking point

6375
05:46:36,520 --> 05:46:40,680
Also, yes, there are a ID fakes of me up

6376
05:46:41,800 --> 05:46:45,920
What why say that though why bring attention to it to

6377
05:46:46,920 --> 05:46:48,920
Like validity in the argument I don't know

6378
05:46:50,040 --> 05:46:53,480
But I mean like like any field alright, I am pulling

6379
05:46:54,800 --> 05:46:58,880
Sing out the big guns Charlie. I have recently obtained access to the tumbler files

6380
05:46:58,880 --> 05:47:05,200
If you want them to remain secret my demands are this you show us the Jamiroquai had again and prove that you do in fact still have it

6381
05:47:08,000 --> 05:47:10,800
What how do these people end up connected?

6382
05:47:13,800 --> 05:47:15,800
What

6383
05:47:16,200 --> 05:47:19,680
The bad egg what what who's the bad egg do you think she was talking about?

6384
05:47:21,160 --> 05:47:23,160
No, obviously not I

6385
05:47:24,000 --> 05:47:26,000
Puches literally an egg. Oh

6386
05:47:27,680 --> 05:47:29,680
My god

6387
05:47:30,720 --> 05:47:32,720
What

6388
05:47:34,480 --> 05:47:36,480
They're all connected bro. Oh

6389
05:47:37,640 --> 05:47:43,360
My god, dude the this form of like political shit is so well get me out of this arc

6390
05:47:43,600 --> 05:47:46,720
She's replying to David defending his song

6391
05:47:46,920 --> 05:47:50,480
This is an out of context clip regardless beefing with and hang on is not is not the move

6392
05:47:50,480 --> 05:47:54,840
It's gonna hurt you in the long run. Holy fucking mafiosa. What the fuck oh

6393
05:47:55,520 --> 05:47:57,440
My god, well, hey, well, hey look at that

6394
05:47:57,440 --> 05:48:03,640
I saw she did a thing that set a flag off of my mind and I guess look at that. What are the chances? What are the chances?

6395
05:48:04,840 --> 05:48:06,840
Bro, this shit is crazy

6396
05:48:08,160 --> 05:48:14,800
We got to go back. I got to get back to toxic audience man. What's what what's laughing mr. Girl up to I got to bring it back

6397
05:48:16,800 --> 05:48:20,640
We got to go back. No, I need an Alicia. I do love. I where is

6398
05:48:21,360 --> 05:48:24,520
Where is Anna? Where is Anna?

6399
05:48:25,280 --> 05:48:30,200
She's coming back to we're bringing them all back. We need the talks of audience. Okay, it's time to go to war

6400
05:48:30,200 --> 05:48:32,840
We got to go to it's the only way to survive

6401
05:48:35,840 --> 05:48:37,840
It's actually so crazy

6402
05:48:45,200 --> 05:48:49,840
Show the context instead of just saying out of context a sweeper has not just find why it's better to rape rich college women

6403
05:48:49,960 --> 05:48:56,920
She tries to post account is suspended. Of course account is suspended crazy, huh? Oh my god

6404
05:49:00,200 --> 05:49:03,900
Kill me, bro. Jesus. Okay, bring in the Thorps

6405
05:49:06,000 --> 05:49:08,000
Yeah, where are you?

6406
05:49:08,280 --> 05:49:10,280
It's downstairs and I

6407
05:49:14,600 --> 05:49:16,600
No, that's okay

6408
05:49:19,800 --> 05:49:21,820
Maybe I'm wrong for thinking is so grab to me, please

6409
05:49:21,820 --> 05:49:25,960
But as left as shouldn't we reward someone who is put an effort to reform themselves over three years and not continue to shine them

6410
05:49:25,960 --> 05:49:27,800
Uh-oh

6411
05:49:27,800 --> 05:49:29,520
How is she gonna respond?

6412
05:49:29,520 --> 05:49:34,720
We still need to maximize for the victim is saying by the way if this was like a leftist person and it was an

6413
05:49:34,720 --> 05:49:40,600
Atrioc all of these motherfuckers would have a totally different take on this by the way one trillion quadrillion percent

6414
05:49:40,840 --> 05:49:45,680
None of these people will ever call out any of the creepy fucking weird shit that loves you

6415
05:49:45,680 --> 05:49:52,600
Remember these guys all went to bat for Plattner. Okay, all of them went to bat for water until it was all but impossible at the end

6416
05:49:55,600 --> 05:49:59,360
Fabio dry cool. I don't think that his victims are obligated to

6417
05:50:00,000 --> 05:50:05,240
be around him or to no one said that lose their social lives no one said that if

6418
05:50:05,240 --> 05:50:10,600
all of their friends start collaborating well that's on you sorry but that's on

6419
05:50:10,600 --> 05:50:15,400
that's on you to decide not everybody has to be infinitely accommodating of you

6420
05:50:15,400 --> 05:50:18,720
for the entirety of your life that's part of being a human being okay sometimes

6421
05:50:18,720 --> 05:50:21,240
are like that they could create a boundary and if they don't like it then

6422
05:50:21,240 --> 05:50:23,520
they got to leave yeah that's that you don't have to hang around them when they're

6423
05:50:23,520 --> 05:50:37,440
around the other people that's it with with him like again it's good that he's

6424
05:50:37,440 --> 05:50:42,280
putting in the work oh my god putting in the work it was four years ago fuck off

6425
05:50:42,280 --> 05:50:48,880
what a brainless fucking take okay this person is fucking crazy holy shit I don't

6426
05:50:48,880 --> 05:50:52,040
know much about Ethan Klein but after seeing the lengths wealthy and influential

6427
05:50:52,040 --> 05:50:56,720
Zionists like him have gone to in order to legally and financially punish pro

6428
05:50:56,720 --> 05:50:59,660
Palestine voices it's a relief to know that one of the worst offenders in

6429
05:50:59,660 --> 05:51:03,760
content creator spaces will no longer have the means to terrorize people fuck

6430
05:51:03,760 --> 05:51:09,760
that guy sorry his kids though divorce arcs oh my gosh thoughts and prayers Jesus

6431
05:51:09,760 --> 05:51:20,600
Christ to rewarding the perpetrator isn't a part of a restorative justice yes

6432
05:51:22,880 --> 05:51:26,320
there are a deep fix of Trump making out with Putin no sense letting that bother

6433
05:51:26,320 --> 05:51:31,160
you the idea fix of me don't super bother me I just assumed that it would

6434
05:51:31,160 --> 05:51:35,120
happen the second I think a lot of people especially like women I think the

6435
05:51:35,120 --> 05:51:39,640
second they realize that a deep fix or becoming a thing we're like oh that's

6436
05:51:39,640 --> 05:51:45,240
going to be used to make porn of me at some point in my life okay that sucks and

6437
05:51:45,240 --> 05:51:53,200
it's horrible and is really gross I think the significant portrayal here is her friend

6438
05:51:53,200 --> 05:51:59,640
does she not know that cutie was a big victim in this or did she just clueless

6439
05:51:59,640 --> 05:52:04,120
and just wants to give the Miss Andrews take or whatever the fuck

6440
05:52:04,640 --> 05:52:11,520
like this is this is like a friend that's really fucking gross and weird

6441
05:52:13,040 --> 05:52:17,120
as we can see from vokie main statement I'm not trying to do drama shit right now

6442
05:52:17,120 --> 05:52:22,340
by the way I'm not I promise you I'm not becoming a drama streamer if this I

6443
05:52:22,340 --> 05:52:26,440
just looked at this and I was like what the fuck

6444
05:52:34,640 --> 05:52:41,240
she says that she appreciates that he's put in a lot of money and effort into

6445
05:52:41,240 --> 05:52:47,400
removing the A.I.D. fake stuff but she said as he's become more involved in

6446
05:52:47,400 --> 05:52:50,200
events with people close to me I've grown particularly uncomfortable as far as I

6447
05:52:50,200 --> 05:52:52,600
know no one is really checking with the women affected about how it makes them

6448
05:52:52,600 --> 05:52:54,800
feel other people forgiving him is their choice but it doesn't mean I can't

6449
05:52:54,800 --> 05:53:03,520
share my perspective on it as well which I think is very correct I think that I

6450
05:53:03,520 --> 05:53:09,960
don't think that she's obligated to spend time with him no one said that no one

6451
05:53:09,960 --> 05:53:11,960
said that

6452
05:53:17,520 --> 05:53:21,040
but publicly shunning this person still doesn't motivate others to repent sure

6453
05:53:21,040 --> 05:53:26,680
Fabio Dr. Cool but the thing is is that like do we care about victims here or

6454
05:53:26,680 --> 05:53:36,480
do we care about you know habilitating a rehabilitating a creep my god as I care

6455
05:53:36,480 --> 05:53:40,640
about how the victims feel about this well no that's not true you care about

6456
05:53:40,640 --> 05:53:44,280
how one victim feels about it and not any of the others the one that happens to

6457
05:53:44,280 --> 05:53:48,800
align with you I guess in your political orientation for this take or the

6458
05:53:48,800 --> 05:53:53,000
directionally political take you have on this they do they do come first and if

6459
05:53:53,000 --> 05:53:59,920
he's like getting involved with a bunch of like stuff that she does and is getting

6460
05:53:59,920 --> 05:54:05,000
involved with her friends and her social circles I think that's awful and then

6461
05:54:05,000 --> 05:54:09,400
she has to go see the person who humiliated her that she felt comfortable

6462
05:54:09,400 --> 05:54:15,400
with and I can tell you this also I'm unbothered by it because it's just

6463
05:54:15,400 --> 05:54:18,520
whatever the fuck but the most annoying thing and the reason why I know none of

6464
05:54:18,520 --> 05:54:21,280
these people give a fuck about the actual anything actually involved in

6465
05:54:21,280 --> 05:54:26,800
this is because anytime you talk about any of this you are substantially

6466
05:54:26,800 --> 05:54:29,600
increasing the amount of people that are going to search for it and find it

6467
05:54:29,600 --> 05:54:33,920
every time fucking pixie filed another complaint with all the fucking website

6468
05:54:33,920 --> 05:54:38,040
links to where my fucking revenge board is hosted every time she does this I

6469
05:54:38,040 --> 05:54:41,000
know that there's a whole bunch of interest that's all dragged up so that

6470
05:54:41,000 --> 05:54:43,640
people go and search stuff and look for stuff okay it's the same thing for this

6471
05:54:43,640 --> 05:54:47,080
if Pokemon felt that she didn't want to be in her a track or whatever she can

6472
05:54:47,080 --> 05:54:51,120
just talk to cutie she can talk to Ludwig she can talk like all of these

6473
05:54:51,120 --> 05:54:53,600
people could have addressed and talked about all of this behind the scenes

6474
05:54:53,600 --> 05:54:58,160
there's absolutely going public was literally like a last response last

6475
05:54:58,160 --> 05:54:59,920
resort if nothing else was working

6476
05:55:00,000 --> 05:55:02,480
the fact that Poked has wanted to come on stream

6477
05:55:02,480 --> 05:55:05,200
and the fact that Poked was linking pictures of it

6478
05:55:05,200 --> 05:55:07,280
is like, or not link it, but showing like pictures of it

6479
05:55:07,280 --> 05:55:08,280
that were slightly sensitive to people

6480
05:55:08,280 --> 05:55:09,400
like what is wrong with you?

6481
05:55:09,400 --> 05:55:12,280
This, well, when I say what is wrong with you,

6482
05:55:12,280 --> 05:55:14,120
the answer is that it probably just doesn't bother that much

6483
05:55:14,120 --> 05:55:15,160
and I know it sounds mean to say it,

6484
05:55:15,160 --> 05:55:18,400
but like, I don't have a theory of mind for somebody

6485
05:55:18,400 --> 05:55:21,160
who can like laugh and giggle and sing through that

6486
05:55:21,160 --> 05:55:23,460
four years later and then show like slightly

6487
05:55:23,460 --> 05:55:25,000
censored pictures of it on stream,

6488
05:55:25,000 --> 05:55:26,480
but then pretend that this is like a hugely

6489
05:55:26,480 --> 05:55:28,160
violet of thing that's bothering them all.

6490
05:55:28,160 --> 05:55:29,600
I just don't believe it, I don't buy it.

6491
05:55:29,600 --> 05:55:33,480
It's just, it's crazy, it's crazy behavior to me

6492
05:55:33,480 --> 05:55:35,880
for somebody that supposedly doesn't want any of this

6493
05:55:35,880 --> 05:55:37,560
like looked at or doesn't want any of this dugout again.

6494
05:55:37,560 --> 05:55:39,680
Like you're doing everything you can to maximize.

6495
05:55:39,680 --> 05:55:42,640
And also, by the way, to any other victim that was involved

6496
05:55:42,640 --> 05:55:46,040
because I certainly, QD or my or any other people

6497
05:55:46,040 --> 05:55:47,200
whose pictures were involved in that,

6498
05:55:47,200 --> 05:55:49,320
their stuff has all definitely been looked up more now

6499
05:55:49,320 --> 05:55:51,400
as well because Poked decided to drag all this out

6500
05:55:51,400 --> 05:55:54,320
to in front of everybody's, in front of everybody

6501
05:55:54,320 --> 05:55:55,720
to go and search for and be curious about.

6502
05:55:55,720 --> 05:55:57,320
So it's like, you clearly, there's no care

6503
05:55:57,320 --> 05:56:00,080
for any of the actual underlying like gross things.

6504
05:56:00,080 --> 05:56:04,480
This is just some weird social political power battle thing

6505
05:56:04,480 --> 05:56:06,240
that at the expense of everybody involved.

6506
05:56:06,240 --> 05:56:07,580
It's so fucking cringe.

6507
05:56:09,040 --> 05:56:10,280
- And safe with.

6508
05:56:10,280 --> 05:56:14,160
And then like, you'll see him everywhere.

6509
05:56:16,080 --> 05:56:17,800
And she's also allowed to be uncomfortable with it.

6510
05:56:17,800 --> 05:56:21,800
Thank you, Dave, for the tier one, 17 months, it's noopy.

6511
05:56:21,800 --> 05:56:24,120
I would never want to speak to a man

6512
05:56:24,120 --> 05:56:26,920
who was jerking off to AID fix of me.

6513
05:56:28,040 --> 05:56:29,440
Especially if that's like a friend,

6514
05:56:29,440 --> 05:56:31,040
if that's like a friend that I felt safe with.

6515
05:56:31,040 --> 05:56:35,960
- No one is saying that. - I would be really scared

6516
05:56:35,960 --> 05:56:37,200
and grossed out.

6517
05:56:37,200 --> 05:56:39,840
I'd be horrified, I'd be humiliated, I'd feel degraded.

6518
05:56:39,840 --> 05:56:44,840
I would struggle to trust male friends in the future.

6519
05:56:47,440 --> 05:56:48,700
Like it's bad.

6520
05:56:50,920 --> 05:56:51,820
- Wait, did you see this, Mooten?

6521
05:56:51,820 --> 05:56:52,660
You saw it, right?

6522
05:56:54,840 --> 05:56:57,680
(mouse clicking)

6523
05:56:57,680 --> 05:56:59,100
Wait, he's not here.

6524
05:57:00,640 --> 05:57:02,660
Like, this is insane.

6525
05:57:02,660 --> 05:57:04,600
- And the thing is, I think people don't realize because--

6526
05:57:04,600 --> 05:57:07,440
- This is like borderline exhibitionist.

6527
05:57:07,440 --> 05:57:08,280
Like--

6528
05:57:08,280 --> 05:57:09,960
- You probably couldn't see on the stream initially.

6529
05:57:09,960 --> 05:57:12,320
I know that these are all photos of me.

6530
05:57:12,320 --> 05:57:14,200
'Cause I take photos of myself and I know

6531
05:57:14,200 --> 05:57:15,560
what my IG feed looks like.

6532
05:57:16,640 --> 05:57:18,280
This is, it's not okay.

6533
05:57:18,280 --> 05:57:19,700
- What are we ding-donging?

6534
05:57:19,700 --> 05:57:21,120
- This, wait, did you see this, Mooten?

6535
05:57:21,120 --> 05:57:23,200
This is crazy, bro.

6536
05:57:23,200 --> 05:57:24,800
- Oh, showing her own shit, yeah.

6537
05:57:24,800 --> 05:57:26,120
- And I hope that I am not--

6538
05:57:27,560 --> 05:57:29,380
- That's fucking wild.

6539
05:57:29,380 --> 05:57:30,380
I just--

6540
05:57:34,360 --> 05:57:37,800
- And so, like you shouldn't go on the path to,

6541
05:57:40,400 --> 05:57:44,680
like you shouldn't take the path of seeking to repent

6542
05:57:44,680 --> 05:57:48,320
because you want your life to go back to normal

6543
05:57:48,320 --> 05:57:50,360
and you want everything to be forgiven.

6544
05:57:52,920 --> 05:57:55,480
- You should do it because he's right.

6545
05:57:55,480 --> 05:57:56,820
- Just going over there, a track man.

6546
05:57:56,820 --> 05:57:58,420
- Haven't you guys ever felt shame?

6547
05:58:04,280 --> 05:58:06,720
Like, haven't you guys ever felt shame about something

6548
05:58:06,720 --> 05:58:10,280
and doing something bad and wanting to do better?

6549
05:58:10,280 --> 05:58:11,360
- Memes.

6550
05:58:11,360 --> 05:58:12,880
- And wanting to be a better person?

6551
05:58:12,880 --> 05:58:14,040
Like, that's the goal.

6552
05:58:14,040 --> 05:58:15,360
It wasn't said, unfortunately,

6553
05:58:15,360 --> 05:58:16,280
a man's making for anyone.

6554
05:58:16,280 --> 05:58:18,120
Octamine, the victim might never want to talk

6555
05:58:18,120 --> 05:58:19,600
to or be around you again, which this dude, I guess,

6556
05:58:19,600 --> 05:58:20,760
does not get.

6557
05:58:20,760 --> 05:58:22,200
Like, I didn't lose friends from making amends

6558
05:58:22,200 --> 05:58:23,600
when I got sober, but I could have it almost did.

6559
05:58:23,600 --> 05:58:24,720
And I had to accept that I could lose them

6560
05:58:24,720 --> 05:58:25,720
if I wanted to move forward in life.

6561
05:58:25,720 --> 05:58:28,320
No, precisely, it is like--

6562
05:58:28,320 --> 05:58:30,400
- Oh yeah, she's fully born into this camp.

6563
05:58:30,400 --> 05:58:31,240
Holy shit.

6564
05:58:34,120 --> 05:58:36,320
How Hitler treats dogs, how is on treats dogs?

6565
05:58:36,320 --> 05:58:38,240
The Nazis were a very pro-animal and pro-nature

6566
05:58:38,240 --> 05:58:40,320
and would juxtapose the purity and innocence of nature

6567
05:58:40,320 --> 05:58:42,360
and animals with the innately evil character

6568
05:58:42,360 --> 05:58:44,480
of their victims, were Jews, Roma, disabled, et cetera.

6569
05:58:44,480 --> 05:58:46,760
Being good to dogs is a part of Nazi propaganda,

6570
05:58:46,760 --> 05:58:48,440
which OP is spreading.

6571
05:58:48,440 --> 05:58:49,560
I do think this sentiment,

6572
05:58:49,560 --> 05:58:50,880
animals in nature equals inherently good,

6573
05:58:50,880 --> 05:58:52,960
here innocent humans equal bad, plagues us to this day.

6574
05:58:52,960 --> 05:58:54,840
Animals in nature are neutral

6575
05:58:54,840 --> 05:58:56,600
and we can condition specific animals behaving ways

6576
05:58:56,600 --> 05:58:57,520
that we do good or bad.

6577
05:58:57,520 --> 05:58:59,440
By the way, I don't know if it's on used a shot collar

6578
05:58:59,440 --> 05:59:00,360
on his dog or not.

6579
05:59:00,360 --> 05:59:02,520
She seems to be a happy, well-trained pup,

6580
05:59:02,520 --> 05:59:04,840
so I think he either didn't or overcorrected her behavior

6581
05:59:04,840 --> 05:59:06,240
out of frustration, obviously not good,

6582
05:59:06,240 --> 05:59:08,600
but I don't think anyone needs to worry about his dog.

6583
05:59:08,600 --> 05:59:12,200
So, okay, good sweep, sweep, sweep, sweep, sweep, sweep,

6584
05:59:12,200 --> 05:59:13,040
sweep, sweep, sweep.

6585
05:59:13,040 --> 05:59:14,520
- Got a sweep, sweep, sweep, sweep, sweep.

6586
05:59:14,520 --> 05:59:16,880
- Goddamn it, add one of six, kill me.

6587
05:59:16,880 --> 05:59:18,700
- Twitch fucking sucks, man.

6588
05:59:20,120 --> 05:59:21,520
- Imagine going back to this.

6589
05:59:21,520 --> 05:59:22,760
Imagine going back to like,

6590
05:59:22,760 --> 05:59:24,880
this is the watching experience you have.

6591
05:59:24,880 --> 05:59:26,040
- I love Twitch.

6592
05:59:26,040 --> 05:59:27,280
- Why?

6593
05:59:27,280 --> 05:59:28,920
It's like, oh, let me go back in the vaud,

6594
05:59:28,920 --> 05:59:30,840
hold on, let me click 16 things

6595
05:59:30,840 --> 05:59:34,600
to land on the precise page 'cause God knows

6596
05:59:34,600 --> 05:59:37,080
they don't want to just have the fucking slider right there.

6597
05:59:46,080 --> 05:59:46,920
- W cap.

6598
05:59:47,800 --> 05:59:48,640
- Yeah.

6599
05:59:51,040 --> 05:59:52,800
- Front of the stream, Jane Doe.

6600
05:59:57,280 --> 05:59:59,000
Reability of justice is not just spending money

6601
05:59:59,000 --> 05:59:59,920
to clear your reputation,

6602
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:04,160
of this serious acknowledgement of what you did wrong work with it. We said this too. I feel like

6603
06:00:04,160 --> 06:00:07,280
rehabilitative justice probably doesn't have much to do with the victims at all right. Our justice

6604
06:00:07,280 --> 06:00:12,880
system is more concerned with the perpetrator and then the person I guess like writing themselves

6605
06:00:12,880 --> 06:00:18,720
or reintegrating into society like if everything was just about dealing with the victims that would

6606
06:00:18,720 --> 06:00:22,880
just be like a revenge system right like our criminal justice system pretty intentionally

6607
06:00:23,520 --> 06:00:29,120
separates out the the I wouldn't say all the feelings and desires of the victims like obviously

6608
06:00:29,120 --> 06:00:33,040
you have your your end of court statements or whatever you can make about the person but

6609
06:00:33,040 --> 06:00:36,720
we have a dispassionate legal system for a reason it's not like you need to do whatever

6610
06:00:36,720 --> 06:00:40,240
you can to make the victim feel better we would just go back to like a revenge system of justice

6611
06:00:40,240 --> 06:00:57,360
if that was the case.

6612
06:00:59,120 --> 06:01:02,560
That's fine if some people involved don't want to forgive him that's fine if others do that's fine

6613
06:01:02,560 --> 06:01:06,480
too. I'm not so sure he did who the fuck are you to say you're not involved with any of these

6614
06:01:06,480 --> 06:01:12,560
fucking people at all like what I don't understand why Pokemon's post specifically

6615
06:01:12,560 --> 06:01:15,920
mentioned how she had to spend hundreds of thousand dollars to to get stuff removed that's a lie by

6616
06:01:15,920 --> 06:01:20,640
the way I'm surprised he wouldn't try to compensate her about that or how he wouldn't have known

6617
06:01:20,640 --> 06:01:25,840
about this if he talked with her because it's not true and how no one has checked in with her

6618
06:01:25,840 --> 06:01:31,360
about how she's feeling also that's this doesn't even I still I hate the performative nature

6619
06:01:31,360 --> 06:01:37,520
of white women I'm just hitting why would the I don't even know if it would be appropriate for

6620
06:01:37,520 --> 06:01:41,920
the perpetrator in that instance to check in with the victim like why would they even try to reach

6621
06:01:41,920 --> 06:01:45,040
out and contact them I feel like that would be an improper thing in and of itself this is whole

6622
06:01:45,040 --> 06:01:48,400
like dynamic is like unworkable and stupid in it I don't think it goes to show there's literally

6623
06:01:48,400 --> 06:01:52,080
nothing that Atriac could have done like I think they just wanted to kill himself or just leave

6624
06:01:52,080 --> 06:01:58,160
completely um I'm not even sure if he gave a personal such private apology to the victims then

6625
06:01:58,160 --> 06:02:01,840
why are you even talking about this then just don't say anything I hope he did do these things

6626
06:02:01,840 --> 06:02:09,680
these would be concrete steps towards rehabilitation oh my god reward enough I agree that it's

6627
06:02:09,680 --> 06:02:13,040
disgusting but I also think if her formation is the goal then we should for example he lied about

6628
06:02:13,040 --> 06:02:15,600
spending money to get t-pix taken out I'm saying she didn't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars

6629
06:02:15,600 --> 06:02:18,480
on her my guess is she has an agency that does a whole bunch of stuff and one part of what that

6630
06:02:18,480 --> 06:02:22,240
agency does is they take down board and stuff of people online but not hundreds of thousands of

6631
06:02:22,240 --> 06:02:26,480
dollars that's ridiculous no tons of only fans girls and nobody's ever spending that much money

6632
06:02:26,480 --> 06:02:29,920
to get shit like that taken down this an insanely stupid amount of money nobody's spending that

6633
06:02:29,920 --> 06:02:35,600
much is retarded I want to know who Atriac worked with apparently it did a lot of work on taking

6634
06:02:35,600 --> 06:02:40,480
stuff down I think somebody said he gave $60,000 a retainer to some law firm I should just stop

6635
06:02:40,480 --> 06:02:43,920
repeating shit because charters will say random retarded shit with no source if somebody can

6636
06:02:43,920 --> 06:02:47,280
link me a source of what he actually did that we can know for sure but everybody just says like

6637
06:02:47,280 --> 06:02:54,960
or this information well you know what fab fabio dracul uh instead of being on a sex offenders

6638
06:02:54,960 --> 06:02:57,680
like I didn't lose friends from making amends when I got sober but I could have and almost

6639
06:02:57,680 --> 06:03:01,600
it and I had to accept that I could lose them if I wanted to go forward in life no precisely it is

6640
06:03:01,600 --> 06:03:10,080
like you like the goal of making amends has to be to become a better person I agree that it's

6641
06:03:10,080 --> 06:03:13,200
disgusting but I also think if her formation is the goal then we should try to support the victims

6642
06:03:13,200 --> 06:03:19,600
and reformation well you know what fab fabio dracul uh instead of being on a sex offenders list

6643
06:03:20,640 --> 06:03:26,000
he's not on a sex offenders list that's reward enough like you just shit you don't have these

6644
06:03:26,000 --> 06:03:31,120
are not serious opinions I don't even know bro what dude kill me I hate politics it's all just so

6645
06:03:31,120 --> 06:03:38,240
cringe sex offender list for how long for the rest of us just like wait for looking at the page

6646
06:03:38,240 --> 06:03:43,680
yeah it's just so this is like so fucking wait but okay would you agree that should hasan also be on

6647
06:03:43,680 --> 06:03:47,360
the sex of those days we will never do why why does he have to be a contact creator making

6648
06:03:47,360 --> 06:03:52,240
millions of dollars putting his face everywhere so that pokey mane and his other victims can be

6649
06:03:52,240 --> 06:03:59,200
reminded of how he humiliated and degraded them oh my god that's cringe and what here's a question

6650
06:03:59,200 --> 06:04:04,800
for you what what's worse what atriach did which is pulling up a page of what I had to do this

6651
06:04:04,800 --> 06:04:08,960
this is the editor saying we're not talking about us all right now Dan ads are gonna kill me if you

6652
06:04:08,960 --> 06:04:15,600
hijack the section make about us on we're talking about atriach and pokey what do you work for ads

6653
06:04:15,600 --> 06:04:20,400
fuck him yep he works for you motherfucker not the other way around if you know the women that

6654
06:04:20,400 --> 06:04:24,800
he was watching deep fake porno like i've made efforts to avoid him had stopped showing up to

6655
06:04:24,800 --> 06:04:28,720
events where he goes to like if they are closing but what has on dead is absolutely worse obviously

6656
06:04:28,720 --> 06:04:34,720
if they are making their lives smaller to avoid him that's bad i know guys in sobriety who made

6657
06:04:34,720 --> 06:04:38,000
amends by basically donating to women's organizations and never out to apologize to women they aren't

6658
06:04:38,000 --> 06:04:40,960
but sometimes all you can do because the victims don't want to be apologized to sometimes that's

6659
06:04:40,960 --> 06:04:48,080
dignified and genuine rehabilitation no precisely what it's so what so what is so what was atriach

6660
06:04:48,080 --> 06:04:53,360
supposed to do well i think she said it i guess um she had to um he needs to just quit and go work

6661
06:04:53,360 --> 06:04:59,600
in mcdonald's i guess atriach returns to twitch six weeks after deep fake controversy working on

6662
06:04:59,600 --> 06:05:00,100
James hit.

6663
06:05:00,000 --> 06:05:02,340
takes downs, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

6664
06:05:02,340 --> 06:05:04,880
He provided an update on a product he's been working on.

6665
06:05:04,880 --> 06:05:10,680
(imitates

6666
06:05:10,680 --> 06:05:11,520
music)

6667
06:05:11,520 --> 06:05:13,220
And Drake first revealed just after a week

6668
06:05:13,220 --> 06:05:15,260
from the incident that he had supposedly given $60,000

6669
06:05:15,260 --> 06:05:16,840
to the law firm Morrison Rothman.

6670
06:05:16,840 --> 06:05:19,080
Oh, this guy is, I think he's like the video game attorney.

6671
06:05:19,080 --> 06:05:19,920
So if he was lying about this,

6672
06:05:19,920 --> 06:05:22,000
I imagine he would have immediately corrected it.

6673
06:05:22,000 --> 06:05:23,840
The law firm is currently aiding QD Cinderella,

6674
06:05:23,840 --> 06:05:25,200
a streamer directly impacted,

6675
06:05:25,200 --> 06:05:27,480
and others to take down deep fakes from the internet.

6676
06:05:27,480 --> 06:05:29,480
The money he said was for any woman on Twitch

6677
06:05:29,480 --> 06:05:30,660
who wanted to use their legal services

6678
06:05:30,660 --> 06:05:33,560
for deep take downs or reputation management.

6679
06:05:33,560 --> 06:05:34,760
Oh, okay, so also for a beat.

6680
06:05:34,760 --> 06:05:37,600
Oh, 'cause he runs an agency, I believe as well.

6681
06:05:37,600 --> 06:05:40,320
- You know what, can I have some information for you

6682
06:05:40,320 --> 06:05:41,920
that you will enjoy on this day?

6683
06:05:41,920 --> 06:05:42,760
- Oh!

6684
06:05:42,760 --> 06:05:43,600
- What?

6685
06:05:43,600 --> 06:05:45,080
- Go ahead, give it!

6686
06:05:45,080 --> 06:05:48,920
- Who do you have, so who's working with QD Cinderella here?

6687
06:05:48,920 --> 06:05:51,560
Which person, which agency?

6688
06:05:51,560 --> 06:05:54,240
- It's the, I think this is the video game attorney guy.

6689
06:05:54,240 --> 06:05:57,960
- Oh, so this attorney is working with QD.

6690
06:05:57,960 --> 06:06:00,840
I wonder if this guy ever sends out DMCA's?

6691
06:06:00,840 --> 06:06:02,560
- Probably, yeah.

6692
06:06:02,560 --> 06:06:03,720
- Hmm.

6693
06:06:03,720 --> 06:06:05,440
- Do you think he would ever send out, like,

6694
06:06:05,440 --> 06:06:07,320
a bunch of bogus ones, their law firm?

6695
06:06:09,080 --> 06:06:10,640
- He could, maybe.

6696
06:06:10,640 --> 06:06:11,540
- Yeah, maybe.

6697
06:06:13,000 --> 06:06:14,320
Hmm.

6698
06:06:14,320 --> 06:06:17,080
Didn't Oc get a bunch of DMCA's recently?

6699
06:06:17,080 --> 06:06:17,920
- He said he did.

6700
06:06:17,920 --> 06:06:19,960
I don't know if it came through this law firm or not.

6701
06:06:19,960 --> 06:06:21,840
- Dan's insinuating that it did.

6702
06:06:21,840 --> 06:06:22,920
- But did he post him?

6703
06:06:24,760 --> 06:06:26,560
- I am, uh...

6704
06:06:26,560 --> 06:06:27,680
- Oh, maybe I have information on that.

6705
06:06:27,680 --> 06:06:28,520
I don't give a fuck.

6706
06:06:28,520 --> 06:06:30,040
The money he said was for any woman on Twitch

6707
06:06:30,040 --> 06:06:30,920
when he was looking at search, blah, blah, blah.

6708
06:06:30,920 --> 06:06:32,600
Okay, track then, detailed.

6709
06:06:32,600 --> 06:06:34,240
And a kind of with a fan, Genevieve O,

6710
06:06:34,240 --> 06:06:37,040
who is a leading researcher in the world of live streaming.

6711
06:06:37,040 --> 06:06:38,360
- Wait, who was that again?

6712
06:06:40,120 --> 06:06:44,160
Genevieve O, I feel like that's someone from DGG community,

6713
06:06:44,160 --> 06:06:46,280
like a really dedicated anti-fan.

6714
06:06:46,280 --> 06:06:48,520
Like one of the top five biggest anti-fans

6715
06:06:48,520 --> 06:06:50,240
that you've ever had in this community.

6716
06:06:50,240 --> 06:06:51,080
- Really?

6717
06:06:51,080 --> 06:06:53,360
- Huh, yeah, weird.

6718
06:06:53,360 --> 06:06:54,360
That's strange.

6719
06:06:54,360 --> 06:06:57,360
I think this, didn't they, like, do articles with, like,

6720
06:06:57,360 --> 06:07:01,000
Cecilia Dionystazio and a few other people as well?

6721
06:07:01,000 --> 06:07:02,840
- Yup, they didn't know a lot.

6722
06:07:02,840 --> 06:07:04,520
- Is that their name for real?

6723
06:07:05,840 --> 06:07:07,200
I don't think that's their name.

6724
06:07:09,600 --> 06:07:12,480
Very suspicious, very suspicious.

6725
06:07:12,480 --> 06:07:15,860
And yes, that is, by the way, that is the law firm.

6726
06:07:17,960 --> 06:07:19,200
- Okay, based.

6727
06:07:19,200 --> 06:07:20,120
- Okay.

6728
06:07:20,120 --> 06:07:20,960
Oh, I'm sorry.

6729
06:07:20,960 --> 06:07:22,640
I was trying to give you anything relevant to talk about.

6730
06:07:22,640 --> 06:07:24,520
- How is that relevant to this?

6731
06:07:24,520 --> 06:07:26,000
- I don't know.

6732
06:07:26,000 --> 06:07:26,880
You know what, fuck you.

6733
06:07:26,880 --> 06:07:29,160
Well, I'm just curious, how is it relevant?

6734
06:07:29,160 --> 06:07:30,200
- Oh, well, it's the same.

6735
06:07:30,200 --> 06:07:32,440
It's like, there's like seven levels of relevancy

6736
06:07:32,440 --> 06:07:34,080
going on right now.

6737
06:07:34,080 --> 06:07:36,440
- I got, I'm pretty sure their agency

6738
06:07:36,440 --> 06:07:37,680
is incredibly popular in the streamer world.

6739
06:07:37,680 --> 06:07:39,840
I was represented by the agency at one point.

6740
06:07:39,840 --> 06:07:41,640
- Yeah, I think it's really fucking bad look

6741
06:07:41,640 --> 06:07:44,480
to have agency sending out DMCA's to clips personally.

6742
06:07:44,480 --> 06:07:46,080
That's how I would fucking feel.

6743
06:07:47,520 --> 06:07:48,360
Maybe not.

6744
06:07:48,360 --> 06:07:50,560
Maybe it's gonna be the ones that send them out, right?

6745
06:07:50,560 --> 06:07:51,400
What do you mean?

6746
06:07:51,400 --> 06:07:53,760
It's not like Q is gonna send it down to herself.

6747
06:07:53,760 --> 06:07:54,960
- Sure.

6748
06:07:54,960 --> 06:07:57,800
- If you're a attorney that is like the video game

6749
06:07:57,800 --> 06:08:00,520
attorney agency, I think I'd be pretty uncomfortable

6750
06:08:00,520 --> 06:08:02,320
doing things that most people would be like,

6751
06:08:02,320 --> 06:08:06,520
"Wow, that's kind of really not what we stand for."

6752
06:08:06,520 --> 06:08:07,560
That's what I would do, right?

6753
06:08:07,560 --> 06:08:11,440
Like you wouldn't wanna do something bad

6754
06:08:11,440 --> 06:08:13,880
'cause you're the video game attorney, you know?

6755
06:08:13,880 --> 06:08:14,720
- Sure.

6756
06:08:14,720 --> 06:08:15,560
- That's your firm.

6757
06:08:17,320 --> 06:08:18,160
- Yeah?

6758
06:08:18,160 --> 06:08:20,080
I mean, I haven't seen all the DMCA's they sent out,

6759
06:08:20,080 --> 06:08:21,720
but it sounds like they were probably dumb, so.

6760
06:08:21,720 --> 06:08:22,560
- Yeah.

6761
06:08:22,560 --> 06:08:23,400
- Yeah, okay.

6762
06:08:24,720 --> 06:08:26,400
- Can you just enjoy Dan for once, do you?

6763
06:08:26,400 --> 06:08:27,720
- No, hold on, let me be ads.

6764
06:08:27,720 --> 06:08:28,720
Let me be ads for a second.

6765
06:08:28,720 --> 06:08:29,560
Here we go.

6766
06:08:29,560 --> 06:08:30,400
- Alama.

6767
06:08:30,400 --> 06:08:31,240
- There we go.

6768
06:08:31,240 --> 06:08:32,080
- Hey, fans.

6769
06:08:32,080 --> 06:08:32,960
- Hold on, I got you.

6770
06:08:32,960 --> 06:08:34,240
There we go.

6771
06:08:34,240 --> 06:08:36,640
I'm just like fucking 10 minute ads now.

6772
06:08:39,080 --> 06:08:40,800
God, I hate this motherfucker.

6773
06:08:40,800 --> 06:08:43,640
Sorry, go back to the segment, yes.

6774
06:08:43,640 --> 06:08:45,560
- You're gaslighting me right now, okay?

6775
06:08:45,560 --> 06:08:47,400
Yeah, I don't gas.

6776
06:08:47,400 --> 06:08:51,360
- Like, Reformation doesn't mean you get to be a content creator

6777
06:08:51,360 --> 06:08:53,480
who makes millions of dollars after you did something

6778
06:08:53,480 --> 06:08:56,240
really nasty and horribly sexually predatory.

6779
06:08:56,240 --> 06:08:58,860
- Horribly sexually predatory.

6780
06:08:59,840 --> 06:09:00,680
Mm-hmm.

6781
06:09:02,360 --> 06:09:04,040
- Reforming means that you become a better person

6782
06:09:04,040 --> 06:09:06,360
because you want to be a better person,

6783
06:09:06,360 --> 06:09:08,160
because it's the right thing to do.

6784
06:09:11,480 --> 06:09:13,960
And also, he's lucky that he's not

6785
06:09:13,960 --> 06:09:15,660
on a fucking sex offenders list.

6786
06:09:16,600 --> 06:09:18,200
Because the deep fakes.

6787
06:09:18,200 --> 06:09:19,680
Okay, no, we can start at least this quartet,

6788
06:09:19,680 --> 06:09:20,760
'cause I want them to keep the millions

6789
06:09:20,760 --> 06:09:22,160
and stay unrepentant and to trio.

6790
06:09:22,160 --> 06:09:23,480
Thank you, dozlin.

6791
06:09:23,480 --> 06:09:24,320
Thank you.

6792
06:09:25,960 --> 06:09:27,400
No one can know about my thousands

6793
06:09:27,400 --> 06:09:30,080
of AI deep fakes of Dremos.

6794
06:09:30,080 --> 06:09:32,280
It's not sex or anything.

6795
06:09:32,280 --> 06:09:37,280
He's just like getting kids with skateboards or something.

6796
06:09:39,840 --> 06:09:40,960
The truth, Nook, is that he should be

6797
06:09:40,960 --> 06:09:42,920
on a sex offender registry.

6798
06:09:42,920 --> 06:09:45,120
Yes, he probably should.

6799
06:09:46,120 --> 06:09:48,840
- It's just like, like, I would say joke it,

6800
06:09:48,840 --> 06:09:50,520
but I'm like, do you think every manager just like,

6801
06:09:50,520 --> 06:09:52,040
I feel like what should happen,

6802
06:09:52,040 --> 06:09:53,920
do you know how you register for the Selective Services

6803
06:09:53,920 --> 06:09:55,520
when you turn 18 in the United States demand?

6804
06:09:55,520 --> 06:09:57,200
You should also go on the sex offender registry,

6805
06:09:57,200 --> 06:10:00,160
and then you have to accumulate, like, 15 women.

6806
06:10:00,000 --> 06:10:03,900
that will vouch for you to take you off by the time you're 22 and out of college.

6807
06:10:03,900 --> 06:10:07,800
Yes. And then if you can go to like a government office with 15 like accredited women,

6808
06:10:07,800 --> 06:10:09,700
then you can get removed from the sex of any registry.

6809
06:10:09,700 --> 06:10:14,100
Otherwise, you're kept there for life by 22 and you can't one of those guys.

6810
06:10:14,100 --> 06:10:19,100
One of what guys like if they bring a guy, get him off and then he fails.

6811
06:10:19,100 --> 06:10:20,600
They got to go on or something.

6812
06:10:20,600 --> 06:10:21,900
Oh, they're out of there.

6813
06:10:21,900 --> 06:10:23,600
No, then they're all just sterilized.

6814
06:10:28,000 --> 06:10:33,200
But TCO Charlie, Amazon, I'm so happy that we beat fascism and met a fuck Trump and fuck bulls in our yes, Latissio.

6815
06:10:33,200 --> 06:10:43,900
I am, I am so sorry that that like my country put the fate of the world into the hands of Brazilian voters.

6816
06:10:43,900 --> 06:10:44,900
I am so sorry.

6817
06:10:46,300 --> 06:10:47,500
Thank you guys for doing the right thing.

6818
06:10:47,500 --> 06:10:52,700
You guys have no idea how hard Brazilians went to vote like let me let me show you.

6819
06:10:58,000 --> 06:11:03,500
Oh, God, I'm not going to survive this.

6820
06:11:05,100 --> 06:11:06,000
I'm not going to make it.

6821
06:11:07,000 --> 06:11:08,900
You're going to just you're going to be just fine.

6822
06:11:08,900 --> 06:11:09,900
I'm not going to make this one.

6823
06:11:09,900 --> 06:11:10,600
I'm OK.

6824
06:11:10,600 --> 06:11:11,300
You are.

6825
06:11:19,900 --> 06:11:20,300
Whoa.

6826
06:11:29,000 --> 06:11:32,000
Oh, now, OK.

6827
06:11:32,000 --> 06:11:33,500
So.

6828
06:11:35,700 --> 06:11:44,100
This has to do with a triock situation from 2023.

6829
06:11:44,100 --> 06:11:45,300
I believe it was.

6830
06:11:45,300 --> 06:11:56,300
And Pokey was one of the victims of these digitally obtained nonconsensual sexual images that were revealed on a triock stream.

6831
06:11:56,300 --> 06:11:57,900
Obviously he didn't know he had.

6832
06:11:57,900 --> 06:12:09,900
The tab or the page up, but people saw and there were many of his female peers and personal friends who were on this list that he was paid while that he had to pay to be able to access this.

6833
06:12:09,900 --> 06:12:11,900
Pokey sense her love.

6834
06:12:11,900 --> 06:12:14,400
Thank you so much.

6835
06:12:14,400 --> 06:12:15,200
Let me start off.

6836
06:12:15,200 --> 06:12:16,500
I first I'll read her post.

6837
06:12:16,500 --> 06:12:17,800
OK, and then I'll watch that.

6838
06:12:17,800 --> 06:12:22,700
Um, who were violated by these deep fakes were posted publicly.

6839
06:12:22,700 --> 06:12:23,700
They responded to it.

6840
06:12:23,700 --> 06:12:25,000
Some people did not.

6841
06:12:25,000 --> 06:12:26,100
That is, of course.

6842
06:12:26,100 --> 06:12:36,300
Well, obviously this was this was a really big moment when it happened and some people who were violated by these deep fakes were posted publicly.

6843
06:12:36,300 --> 06:12:37,300
They responded to it.

6844
06:12:37,300 --> 06:12:38,600
Some people did not.

6845
06:12:38,600 --> 06:12:43,300
That is, of course, well within every individual's rights to either respond or not respond.

6846
06:12:43,300 --> 06:12:45,800
But I will tell you that this was not fun.

6847
06:12:45,800 --> 06:12:55,600
It was not fun and has continued to be for some for some of the women who were victimized by these deep fakes continue to result in.

6848
06:12:55,600 --> 06:13:03,600
Uh, struggling, struggling to process what they were put through without their consent, how they were violated non conceptually.

6849
06:13:03,600 --> 06:13:04,100
Yeah.

6850
06:13:04,100 --> 06:13:15,800
So, Pokey is one of those people who recently she spoke on stream and just said, you know, I'm struggling to kind of process my emotions here still and it feels like people just moved on quickly and we were expected to just.

6851
06:13:15,800 --> 06:13:18,500
You know, smile and put up with it.

6852
06:13:18,500 --> 06:13:36,100
And anyway, she was expressing her emotions and what she has been struggling with in the couple of years since this happened because, guess what, in case you don't understand, deep fakes of this nature cause very real harms and they can cause lasting harms.

6853
06:13:36,100 --> 06:13:37,800
We're fucked, dude.

6854
06:13:37,800 --> 06:13:40,000
We're just, we're so fucked, man.

6855
06:13:40,000 --> 06:14:00,000
Physical, mental distress, anxiety, professional, personal, deterioration, it is a form of abuse, digital abuse, and it is not something that one has no effect on the person who is victimized by it and two just suddenly will go away because people on the Internet are saying it's not that big of a deal.

6856
06:14:00,000 --> 06:14:00,500
All right.

6857
06:14:00,500 --> 06:14:01,500
So she posted this.

6858
06:14:01,500 --> 06:14:05,000
I think this may be my favorite person on Twitch, actually.

6859
06:14:05,000 --> 06:14:06,000
Really?

6860
06:14:06,000 --> 06:14:07,500
I think so.

6861
06:14:07,500 --> 06:14:11,500
Verify some things about what I said on streaming and not David.

6862
06:14:11,500 --> 06:14:12,500
David?

6863
06:14:12,500 --> 06:14:17,500
Oh, the guy who murdered the guy who murdered the girl.

6864
06:14:17,500 --> 06:14:19,500
I think I would rather watch him than this.

6865
06:14:19,500 --> 06:14:21,500
Well, ironically, yes, I would.

6866
06:14:21,500 --> 06:14:22,500
Okay, stop.

6867
06:14:22,500 --> 06:14:23,500
I just about that take.

6868
06:14:23,500 --> 06:14:24,500
Why?

6869
06:14:24,500 --> 06:14:31,500
Because I don't want to get caught because there's already an in cell segment and now you're saying you prefer murderers to crazy women. So I don't want to get caught with your insane in cell.

6870
06:14:31,500 --> 06:14:35,500
Wait, that's not in cell because there's plenty of women I'd prefer to like.

6871
06:14:35,500 --> 06:14:37,500
Caroline Kwan.

6872
06:14:37,500 --> 06:14:39,500
Caroline Kwan just fucking sucks.

6873
06:14:39,500 --> 06:14:40,500
Hi, sorry.

6874
06:14:40,500 --> 06:14:43,500
I just the saying of digital abuse is crazy.

6875
06:14:43,500 --> 06:14:45,500
I just have to bet.

6876
06:14:45,500 --> 06:14:49,500
Well, now you're on the sex offender registry, so.

6877
06:14:49,500 --> 06:14:56,500
Yesterday, when he was first caught looking at pay walled deep pay content of female streamers, it seems people forgot that the specific page shown on his stream was of me.

6878
06:14:56,500 --> 06:14:57,500
I didn't say much at the time.

6879
06:14:57,500 --> 06:14:58,500
That would be the case.

6880
06:14:58,500 --> 06:14:59,500
It would not need it.

6881
06:14:59,500 --> 06:15:01,500
I think it needed exciting.

6882
06:15:00,000 --> 06:15:01,880
because it was so obviously wrong.

6883
06:15:01,880 --> 06:15:04,520
Well, in an ideal world, that would be the case.

6884
06:15:04,520 --> 06:15:05,880
It would not need explaining,

6885
06:15:05,880 --> 06:15:08,280
because people would understand why this was wrong

6886
06:15:08,280 --> 06:15:13,280
and what kind of harm results from actions like this.

6887
06:15:14,640 --> 06:15:16,320
Two, I appreciate that he spent thousands of dollars

6888
06:15:16,320 --> 06:15:17,920
helping to remove AI and DF content,

6889
06:15:17,920 --> 06:15:19,680
3,000 of which was offered to me specifically,

6890
06:15:19,680 --> 06:15:21,440
but I have had to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars

6891
06:15:21,440 --> 06:15:22,640
towards that same effort.

6892
06:15:22,640 --> 06:15:25,080
Regardless, no amount of money undoes what happened.

6893
06:15:25,080 --> 06:15:27,120
And this is something that I think people don't consider.

6894
06:15:27,120 --> 06:15:29,640
They don't consider how much time and money and energy

6895
06:15:29,640 --> 06:15:32,240
so many women, especially if you are a public figure,

6896
06:15:32,240 --> 06:15:33,760
for example, you are a live streamer,

6897
06:15:33,760 --> 06:15:36,720
how much money and energy they spend

6898
06:15:36,720 --> 06:15:39,000
on having to protect themselves,

6899
06:15:39,000 --> 06:15:42,120
on having to try and take down AI websites.

6900
06:15:42,120 --> 06:15:44,520
- So for larger, I don't mean to like demean anybody.

6901
06:15:44,520 --> 06:15:45,720
I'm sorry, but for larger content creators,

6902
06:15:45,720 --> 06:15:47,040
the answer is not really that much.

6903
06:15:47,040 --> 06:15:49,080
You have an agency that does all of this for you.

6904
06:15:49,080 --> 06:15:50,920
The huge issues you might run into here

6905
06:15:50,920 --> 06:15:54,080
might be like medium size or medium to smaller size people

6906
06:15:54,080 --> 06:15:56,520
because they don't have money to just throw out an agency

6907
06:15:56,520 --> 06:15:57,760
or money to throw at.

6908
06:15:57,760 --> 06:15:59,320
They have like auto removal services now

6909
06:15:59,320 --> 06:16:00,920
that you can sign up for for a couple hundred bucks a month,

6910
06:16:00,920 --> 06:16:02,560
but that might be a lot of money to service troopers.

6911
06:16:02,560 --> 06:16:06,360
And for them, and then if you're like an active target

6912
06:16:06,360 --> 06:16:09,440
for certain people, that might be really difficult

6913
06:16:09,440 --> 06:16:11,840
and not even really costly, but impossible

6914
06:16:11,840 --> 06:16:13,200
because there are some sites that are outside

6915
06:16:13,200 --> 06:16:14,840
of the jurisdiction of the U.S. that will never respond

6916
06:16:14,840 --> 06:16:17,640
to anything and you're just completely fucked in that case.

6917
06:16:17,640 --> 06:16:19,280
But like for people like Pokemon are larger figures

6918
06:16:19,280 --> 06:16:21,040
like this, I don't think so.

6919
06:16:21,040 --> 06:16:21,880
I don't believe it.

6920
06:16:21,880 --> 06:16:23,800
Post receipts or discuss the process more,

6921
06:16:23,800 --> 06:16:24,880
tell me something I'm not understanding

6922
06:16:24,880 --> 06:16:26,400
because typically these are all services

6923
06:16:26,400 --> 06:16:27,480
that are provided by an agency.

6924
06:16:27,480 --> 06:16:30,520
If you've ever, well, I don't want to get a more deal there.

6925
06:16:30,520 --> 06:16:32,560
That's my understanding of it, but I don't know.

6926
06:16:32,560 --> 06:16:34,880
- That have non-consensual sexual imagery of them.

6927
06:16:34,880 --> 06:16:35,720
Try to.

6928
06:16:35,720 --> 06:16:38,360
- This phrasing non-consensual sexual imagery.

6929
06:16:38,360 --> 06:16:39,880
I feel like I can speak as a victim.

6930
06:16:39,880 --> 06:16:41,840
This is like bullshit phrasing, fuck you.

6931
06:16:41,840 --> 06:16:43,920
This is bullshit phrasing on this, okay?

6932
06:16:43,920 --> 06:16:45,640
It's gross, it's disgusting, it's not good,

6933
06:16:45,640 --> 06:16:47,640
but like it's deep fake AI point of yourself.

6934
06:16:47,640 --> 06:16:49,560
Like that's what it is, it's gross.

6935
06:16:49,560 --> 06:16:50,400
That's it.

6936
06:16:52,560 --> 06:16:55,800
- You don't have to pay for security and defense measures

6937
06:16:55,800 --> 06:16:58,760
due to stalkers and harassers, like this is a common thing.

6938
06:16:58,760 --> 06:17:01,040
And the more money you have,

6939
06:17:01,040 --> 06:17:04,600
the more you are able to have the reason.

6940
06:17:04,600 --> 06:17:05,720
- Is there any point in removing?

6941
06:17:05,720 --> 06:17:06,880
It seems like there will always be some sites

6942
06:17:06,880 --> 06:17:07,720
that won't remove it.

6943
06:17:07,720 --> 06:17:08,680
Yeah, because there are popular sites

6944
06:17:08,680 --> 06:17:10,840
that catalog a ton of stuff.

6945
06:17:10,840 --> 06:17:12,320
So you can get it removed from those sites.

6946
06:17:12,320 --> 06:17:14,260
And then you can also register stuff with Google

6947
06:17:14,260 --> 06:17:15,680
that will make it so that when you search for a thing,

6948
06:17:15,680 --> 06:17:17,520
Google doesn't show it.

6949
06:17:17,520 --> 06:17:18,920
There'll be even a notice at the bottom saying

6950
06:17:18,920 --> 06:17:22,320
that they received something and blah, blah, blah, blah.

6951
06:17:22,320 --> 06:17:26,240
So it helps for a lot of people it helps.

6952
06:17:26,240 --> 06:17:29,080
Like I said, now if you're specifically targeted by people

6953
06:17:29,080 --> 06:17:30,560
that are intentionally trying to host stuff

6954
06:17:30,560 --> 06:17:35,060
and then link to it on like out of United States

6955
06:17:35,060 --> 06:17:36,480
or European jurisdiction stuff, some of that,

6956
06:17:36,480 --> 06:17:40,000
you're kind of like fucked, but that's pretty rare.

6957
06:17:40,000 --> 06:17:42,160
But for larger figures, maybe not the most relevant.

6958
06:17:42,160 --> 06:17:45,640
- Resources to protect yourself, but regardless,

6959
06:17:45,640 --> 06:17:48,560
like it's interesting how what is,

6960
06:17:48,560 --> 06:17:49,680
what I've seen frequently mentioned

6961
06:17:49,680 --> 06:17:51,360
is how much money Atriox spend in a way

6962
06:17:51,360 --> 06:17:54,200
to like completely absolve the harm that was committed.

6963
06:17:54,200 --> 06:17:55,760
- Nobody has ever said that ever.

6964
06:17:55,760 --> 06:17:57,920
It just shows that he took a serious effort towards this.

6965
06:17:57,920 --> 06:18:00,480
He took a serious effort to work with the people.

6966
06:18:00,480 --> 06:18:02,800
Like that's nobody saying, this is also why

6967
06:18:02,800 --> 06:18:04,360
like the money part is just so worthless.

6968
06:18:04,360 --> 06:18:05,880
Cause it's like what, how much money?

6969
06:18:05,880 --> 06:18:07,280
Because it's like you're like basically saying

6970
06:18:07,280 --> 06:18:10,320
like how much money is a woman's like sexual autonomy worth

6971
06:18:10,320 --> 06:18:11,720
only a hundred thousand, like I don't know,

6972
06:18:11,720 --> 06:18:14,440
what a million, 10 million, a billion, like it's.

6973
06:18:15,400 --> 06:18:18,040
- No recognition of the money that women spend all the time.

6974
06:18:18,040 --> 06:18:20,280
Like I have tried to get websites taken down

6975
06:18:20,280 --> 06:18:22,720
when I have seen women I know on them.

6976
06:18:22,720 --> 06:18:23,560
I have tried to take them down.

6977
06:18:23,560 --> 06:18:24,400
It's very hard.

6978
06:18:24,400 --> 06:18:26,280
And then just more of them pop up.

6979
06:18:26,280 --> 06:18:27,400
- I don't know what that even means.

6980
06:18:27,400 --> 06:18:28,400
I don't think you can usually,

6981
06:18:28,400 --> 06:18:30,280
unless your friend gives you permission,

6982
06:18:30,280 --> 06:18:31,240
I don't know how you get something taken down

6983
06:18:31,240 --> 06:18:32,520
on behalf of somebody else.

6984
06:18:32,520 --> 06:18:34,760
It has to be usually the person filing the claim.

6985
06:18:34,760 --> 06:18:36,520
Otherwise anybody could just go to any website

6986
06:18:36,520 --> 06:18:37,520
and say, hey, take all these down.

6987
06:18:37,520 --> 06:18:38,520
The people don't want the mother.

6988
06:18:38,520 --> 06:18:39,800
It usually has to be the person.

6989
06:18:39,800 --> 06:18:41,400
When you fill out a form, you sign or you attest

6990
06:18:41,400 --> 06:18:43,160
to like this is me and it involves me.

6991
06:18:43,160 --> 06:18:45,440
My guess is she's probably never done anything like this

6992
06:18:45,440 --> 06:18:46,680
in her entire life and she's virtually sick.

6993
06:18:46,680 --> 06:18:48,440
Like cause she's so excited to jump on the train here.

6994
06:18:48,440 --> 06:18:50,040
She's never been involved in a process like this before,

6995
06:18:50,040 --> 06:18:51,560
but whatever.

6996
06:18:51,560 --> 06:18:53,000
- Tried to get websites taken down.

6997
06:18:53,000 --> 06:18:55,440
When I have seen women I know on them,

6998
06:18:55,440 --> 06:18:56,280
I have tried to take them down.

6999
06:18:56,280 --> 06:18:57,120
It's very hard.

7000
06:18:57,120 --> 06:18:58,240
And then just more of them pop up.

7001
06:18:58,240 --> 06:18:59,560
And also--

7002
06:18:59,560 --> 06:19:01,120
- Also, what do you mean when you've seen women on site,

7003
06:19:01,120 --> 06:19:02,800
like are you browsing these sites actively

7004
06:19:02,800 --> 06:19:04,760
or are people linking them to you or what?

7005
06:19:09,600 --> 06:19:10,440
- Saska.

7006
06:19:13,880 --> 06:19:15,360
- What?

7007
06:19:15,360 --> 06:19:16,760
- My guess is her response would be

7008
06:19:16,760 --> 06:19:17,760
when she's on porn hubs.

7009
06:19:17,760 --> 06:19:19,360
And there's like the deep flake ones on the site.

7010
06:19:19,360 --> 06:19:20,400
- But they're not, that's not true.

7011
06:19:20,400 --> 06:19:23,120
Any very major porn site in the US for the past five years?

7012
06:19:23,120 --> 06:19:23,960
Ten years?

7013
06:19:23,960 --> 06:19:24,800
It's been a long time since Visa

7014
06:19:24,800 --> 06:19:26,960
and everybody came through and they were like fuck you guys.

7015
06:19:26,960 --> 06:19:28,120
Well, it was probably a good change,

7016
06:19:28,120 --> 06:19:30,520
but everything has to be pretty ultra verified now,

7017
06:19:30,520 --> 06:19:33,680
like coming from verified accounts that fill out shit.

7018
06:19:33,680 --> 06:19:34,760
I'm sure there might be some--

7019
06:19:34,760 --> 06:19:38,240
- You don't see deep fake ads of like real people.

7020
06:19:38,240 --> 06:19:40,240
- You shouldn't be, not on like the major porn sites.

7021
06:19:40,240 --> 06:19:42,800
There might be like off, like weird, like,

7022
06:19:42,800 --> 06:19:45,080
I don't think we, I don't know, yeah, but.

7023
06:19:45,080 --> 06:19:47,240
- Some fucking niche site, yeah.

7024
06:19:47,760 --> 06:19:50,020
(chuckles)

7025
06:20:00,000 --> 06:20:03,840
All right.

7026
06:20:03,840 --> 06:20:14,120
Considering that money spent, yes, that is a way to try and commit yourself to trying

7027
06:20:14,120 --> 06:20:22,140
to alleviate further harm, but also it was absolutely a way for Atriok to fix his reputation.

7028
06:20:22,140 --> 06:20:24,520
And I'm not like there's that's just that's just an objective fact.

7029
06:20:24,520 --> 06:20:50,040
Yeah, but I mean, like everything is like a lose lose with these people like if you do things to if you don't do anything, then they're going to say you haven't done anything to take steps to, you know, make amends and then if you do, you're just trying to fix your reputation like, well, of course, if you become a better person after doing a really bad thing shouldn't your reputation be your reputation.

7030
06:20:50,040 --> 06:21:18,040
Be improved isn't part of improving your reputation, improving yourself as a person now she maybe if he's doing it disingenuously that'd be bad, but like what only applies to like it's a class thing actually right because like if, for instance, if someone was if a black guy went to jail for breaking into a store and robbing it, none of these people would be like, oh, we need to hold this against them for the rest of his life.

7031
06:21:18,040 --> 06:21:26,040
Even if like that caused like real trauma to that person that person that person had PTSD for the rest of their life like it's a it's a literal actual class issue.

7032
06:21:26,040 --> 06:21:29,040
It's nothing to do with crime. It's nothing to do with the harm.

7033
06:21:29,040 --> 06:21:35,040
It's all to do with like, oh, I think like this is a this is a white guy and he said a bad word that that should be with you forever.

7034
06:21:35,040 --> 06:21:43,040
Like, you know, I'm using this like, but I don't think it's a class. I think there's other identities that are relevant here but yeah.

7035
06:21:43,040 --> 06:21:59,040
I am not tying any like condemnation per se, but you have to understand that as a content creator, he needed to fix the problem he created in order to regain his status career, continue doing, you know, his his content, et cetera.

7036
06:21:59,040 --> 06:22:02,040
To have his reputation fixed in the industry.

7037
06:22:02,040 --> 06:22:04,040
Like fixed how like it.

7038
06:22:07,040 --> 06:22:15,040
Like nothing makes sense the way that these people talk about every single so this is why I miss the at least some parts of like the first woke era because at least people seem to have an understanding of the issues.

7039
06:22:15,040 --> 06:22:17,040
And now it's like all this is just like virtue slop.

7040
06:22:17,040 --> 06:22:31,040
How do you fix first of all, it's not on you to it's not even necessarily appropriate for you to try to fix something related to an issue that or something related to a victim where there's been like some sexual impropriety that might be completely and totally outside of the bounds of you to ever engage with ever for the rest of your life.

7041
06:22:31,040 --> 06:22:45,040
And that's okay like you're not okay is in like it's just we would never say that like if a man raped a woman like that man needs to make amends to the woman and then she and him need to come together and some beautiful like that's just not how any of this works we never talk about any of this.

7042
06:22:45,040 --> 06:22:50,040
Like this is because it's a meaningless none of this none of this makes any sense.

7043
06:22:50,040 --> 06:22:57,040
Like there are punishments that we think are worthy for if you've done a particular thing you know if you want to show that you are rehabilitated or if you engage in some rehabilitative pathway.

7044
06:22:57,040 --> 06:23:04,040
I mean then you can show those steps which I feel like a drug has and did and then past that it's you know it is it is what it is not like.

7045
06:23:04,040 --> 06:23:10,040
Like I don't know what she's expecting here what she thinks is possible or even appropriate status career continue doing.

7046
06:23:10,040 --> 06:23:26,040
I guess just as I don't know if I need to say this but like if you've wrong somebody especially in a sexually improper way but if you've wrong somebody like at the absolute most and this is circumstantial at the absolute most you can leave like one email or letter

7047
06:23:26,040 --> 06:23:37,040
like explicitly making it clear that you do not expect a response as a way of apologizing or whatever but the second you start trying to make amends or to do anything that looks like you need that other person to forgive you.

7048
06:23:37,040 --> 06:23:48,040
You're actually like I don't need some re-victimization but you're you're you're now putting an onus on them a stressor on them to come out and forgive you for a thing that maybe they never actually want to which is fine also.

7049
06:23:48,040 --> 06:23:59,040
So the person has been victimized and the person never really has to forget they don't have to do that it's not a requirement or anything but this is such a weird stupid take that this is just like virtue slappers that he just doesn't know anything about his his content etc.

7050
06:23:59,040 --> 06:24:15,040
Like I'm sure when you if you wear my 12 steppers or whatever like if you have like abuse issues or whatever you know you can like you can write a letter or something to apologize but like one of the most important things you can ever do when you're apologizing for wronging somebody especially in a really severe way like this is it has to be clear that you are not expecting a response that you're not doing something with the expectation

7051
06:24:15,040 --> 06:24:24,040
that that person has to forgive you or they you have to make amends or that you have to meet again and everything has to be cooler clear that should that's never ever ever the expectation of opponent somebody that you victimize in some way.

7052
06:24:24,040 --> 06:24:33,040
Whatever have his reputation fixed in the industry and so spending money was one way to to do so.

7053
06:24:33,040 --> 06:24:43,040
Okay number three I'm not trying to cancel anyone or be the arbiter of who can do what I'm simply sharing my feelings but something that publicly happened to me and the ways in which it's affecting me today as he's become more involved in events and with people close to me I've grown particularly

7054
06:24:43,040 --> 06:24:47,040
uncomfortable as far as I know no one has really checked in with the women affected about how it makes them feel.

7055
06:24:47,040 --> 06:24:52,040
Other people forgiving him is their choice but it doesn't mean I can't share my perspective on it as well.

7056
06:24:52,040 --> 06:25:00,040
Like this doesn't make any sense given that QD was one of the people on the site and was one of the people that have the most public reactions to this.

7057
06:25:00,000 --> 06:25:05,920
Unless she thinks that Cutey and Atrek have just never talked about it somehow and he just showed up the wedding and like

7058
06:25:06,680 --> 06:25:11,040
scene happened far too often is the rewriting of history particularly as it pertains to issues like these so I

7059
06:25:11,040 --> 06:25:14,480
Prefer to stand my ground so the narrative doesn't get twisted. Hope this clarifies things. Okay

7060
06:25:14,920 --> 06:25:21,040
That is what she said. She talked about how she feels what she's been struggling with and nowhere

7061
06:25:21,040 --> 06:25:23,680
Did she say that every other person who?

7062
06:25:24,320 --> 06:25:27,280
was victimized by this deep fake incident has to

7063
06:25:28,240 --> 06:25:34,120
Has to react and behave the same way. She did not say anything regarding what should be done about Atrek. She said this is

7064
06:25:35,000 --> 06:25:42,520
This is me talking about what happened to me and how I have continued to struggle with the consequences of that

7065
06:25:43,680 --> 06:25:44,720
Redemption is not transactional

7066
06:25:44,720 --> 06:25:46,240
There isn't a checklist of things to do and then you're in the clear

7067
06:25:46,240 --> 06:25:49,360
It has to be genuine and authentic attempt to rectify the situation and improve yourself for the future

7068
06:25:49,360 --> 06:25:50,440
So here's what I wrote

7069
06:25:50,440 --> 06:25:55,720
I said Pokemon does not owe Atrek forgiveness in order she needed to justify her feelings regarding a situation in which she

7070
06:25:55,840 --> 06:25:58,840
was violated and she was victimized and

7071
06:25:59,440 --> 06:26:03,780
Just even that part there so many people online. Do not seem to comprehend

7072
06:26:07,760 --> 06:26:11,040
Image was or yeah, this is like I think there's a legitimate conversation

7073
06:26:11,040 --> 06:26:15,400
You could have but we have to get deep into the weeds here on what it means to be protective of your image or

7074
06:26:15,960 --> 06:26:19,080
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a complicated conversation

7075
06:26:19,080 --> 06:26:23,480
But to just play it out there like that makes it it puts it on the same level

7076
06:26:23,920 --> 06:26:29,520
Depression Olympics between people that have been assaulted in real life or anything speaking as a victim

7077
06:26:29,520 --> 06:26:36,280
but it just feels silly to like yeah, it's pretty insane to use the same fucking language as like someone who's

7078
06:26:36,840 --> 06:26:44,760
Gotten like physically overpowered and raped in real life versus like I was violated online because someone created a photo of me

7079
06:26:44,760 --> 06:26:51,440
Like we have to have to be careful about our language that we're using you to differentiate these two things because it makes it seem

7080
06:26:51,440 --> 06:26:56,160
Like a truck fucking rape them or was like sneaking pictures around the bathroom is I'm crazy

7081
06:26:57,080 --> 06:27:01,540
They were not the ones who had to deal with a colleague a peer a friend

7082
06:27:02,180 --> 06:27:09,120
Paying to access non-consensual sexual images of them like I like fuck you for using that phrase like that's just crazy to me

7083
06:27:09,120 --> 06:27:14,160
I think that's an insane phrase to use to describe deep fakes. I'm sorry. You can call it deep fake AI porn

7084
06:27:14,160 --> 06:27:18,600
It's bad. We should understand that it's bad. This is a that's not they're not images of the person

7085
06:27:18,600 --> 06:27:22,840
That's the whole point is a deep fake. It's not an image of them with a colleague a peer a friend

7086
06:27:23,480 --> 06:27:28,680
Paying to access non-consensual sexual images of them. That was not their experience

7087
06:27:28,680 --> 06:27:34,740
That was pokey means to confirm pay for it as a reminder digital deep fakes of this kind are the most common mostly target women and girls in our classified

7088
06:27:34,740 --> 06:27:36,960
And okay, sorry to speak once again

7089
06:27:36,960 --> 06:27:40,800
But saying like he accessed non-consensual digital pictures of them

7090
06:27:40,800 --> 06:27:46,440
It makes it seem like he was seeking out like leaked news. Yeah, that too. Yeah, like like yeah, I

7091
06:27:47,040 --> 06:27:53,620
Could see that being really fucked up if someone like went into your iCloud got your nudes that you never wanted leaked

7092
06:27:53,620 --> 06:28:00,680
And then this person's fucking looking for them like that is non-consensual. Well careful hold on careful careful. Yeah, because

7093
06:28:02,600 --> 06:28:04,600
Yeah

7094
06:28:06,560 --> 06:28:09,840
I don't want to give it to my Dan instincts, but Hassan was doing that with the fapping

7095
06:28:09,840 --> 06:28:11,640
They all thought that was freaking epic and we're talking about that

7096
06:28:11,640 --> 06:28:16,240
It was based and they these guys have had nothing to say about anything like that ever by the way, but okay

7097
06:28:17,440 --> 06:28:24,800
enabled sexual abuse that is a fact if you believe deep fakes are not a big deal because they're not real you are

7098
06:28:25,520 --> 06:28:33,700
Objectively incorrect. You are perpetuating harmful myths around the nature of this kind of digital abuse

7099
06:28:34,600 --> 06:28:36,600
Kill me

7100
06:28:37,560 --> 06:28:41,400
Just because the images and videos are fake does not mean that the harm isn't real

7101
06:28:41,840 --> 06:28:43,720
He apologized he took accountability

7102
06:28:43,720 --> 06:28:48,920
This was me quoting a lot of people's responses to pokey mane talking about how she feels and I said great perhaps though

7103
06:28:48,920 --> 06:28:50,920
In your endless well of territorial ability for the man who caused this harm

7104
06:28:50,920 --> 06:28:57,440
You can reserve some of that empathy for the women who were victimized by those damaging actions and I think one thing that has been happening is

7105
06:28:58,280 --> 06:29:00,120
people who

7106
06:29:00,120 --> 06:29:07,640
Continue to watch atriok our feeling as if they're personally under attack because someone who was victimized by

7107
06:29:08,040 --> 06:29:12,200
Atriok's actions spoke about how they have been coping

7108
06:29:12,200 --> 06:29:14,360
I wonder if this person or any of the people talking about this

7109
06:29:14,360 --> 06:29:17,040
Does anybody ever address what anybody's saying anymore in line?

7110
06:29:17,040 --> 06:29:24,080
Or is it always just like the most retarded psycho analyzing and then restating at people's positions that and that's all we do forever and ever?

7111
06:29:24,640 --> 06:29:33,160
How they have been struggling with that and rather than just allow the woman who was the victim here to express herself

7112
06:29:33,360 --> 06:29:34,640
No, no, no

7113
06:29:34,640 --> 06:29:41,440
There are many fans of Atriok, but also I will just say men on the internet because this is a situation where it doesn't take

7114
06:29:41,560 --> 06:29:43,760
Fans of a specific male content creator to jump in

7115
06:29:43,840 --> 06:29:49,600
It's just a lot of gross men online who already hate pokey man already hate female streamers to begin with but um

7116
06:29:50,320 --> 06:29:54,400
Let me let me just say you need to you need to look in the mirror. You need to question your

7117
06:29:58,080 --> 06:30:00,080
Self if you are getting upset

7118
06:30:00,000 --> 06:30:04,920
Because somebody who was a victim of deep fake non-consensual sexual images of themselves is

7119
06:30:06,360 --> 06:30:11,760
Talking about that experience. Why are you getting upset on behalf of the male streamer who did this? Why are you?

7120
06:30:12,360 --> 06:30:13,960
Why are you?

7121
06:30:13,960 --> 06:30:19,160
reacting in a way where it's very clear you only possess

7122
06:30:19,720 --> 06:30:26,200
Empathy you only possess shared ability for the male streamer who caused this in the first place

7123
06:30:27,320 --> 06:30:32,360
Forcing victims into thinking there's some sort of timeline on their trauma or feelings is so wild. Pokey man herself said

7124
06:30:32,360 --> 06:30:37,440
I am not trying to cancel Atrioc. I am not telling people what they should or should not do

7125
06:30:37,440 --> 06:30:40,800
I am not telling other people how they should feel. This is me expressing

7126
06:30:41,400 --> 06:30:46,000
Myself and yet she is not allowed to do that. I guess

7127
06:30:46,880 --> 06:30:48,880
According to many people

7128
06:30:48,880 --> 06:30:53,220
I'm not just because the images and videos are fake. It's not me that the harm isn't real and not just that but imagine

7129
06:30:54,080 --> 06:30:56,800
How publicly humiliating it was for everybody to know

7130
06:30:57,320 --> 06:30:59,320
And to see it be talking about it

7131
06:30:59,520 --> 06:31:08,600
Hi, go Miko. How are you? You know what unfortunately it did as well is uh, it motivates other men to go do the same thing

7132
06:31:08,600 --> 06:31:10,600
It piques their curiosity

7133
06:31:12,320 --> 06:31:14,320
They see how

7134
06:31:14,320 --> 06:31:20,220
Upset the women who were victimized by this deep-fake situation where huh and it inspired them it motivated them

7135
06:31:21,200 --> 06:31:23,800
Do even more of that like I remember when I had posted

7136
06:31:24,440 --> 06:31:28,760
about just deep fakes in general and explaining how it is a form of

7137
06:31:29,320 --> 06:31:34,420
Digital sexual abuse. I had people in the comments and this is when I still had my Twitter DMS open who were like your next bitch

7138
06:31:35,320 --> 06:31:37,780
So essentially threatening me with this form

7139
06:31:38,960 --> 06:31:40,960
I can't agree on what topic store to know

7140
06:31:41,560 --> 06:31:43,560
Can we get a domino?

7141
06:31:43,560 --> 06:31:50,420
I'll use a bathroom all this ad plays. Fuck. I'm getting fuckin flashback smooth to like the ad pocalypse being because I used to see so many ads

7142
06:31:50,640 --> 06:31:55,980
Like every day we were going to recording and I was like, oh my god. It's another fucking goddamn

7143
06:31:57,400 --> 06:32:03,160
You know the which one did the most that goddamn betting site. I have PTSD from seeing it actually purple mattress

7144
06:32:03,520 --> 06:32:05,520
No, it's the fucking stupid

7145
06:32:06,160 --> 06:32:10,360
Legal bet one that they have in the US for like sports betting. Oh

7146
06:32:11,760 --> 06:32:18,280
betting not betting. Sorry betting betting like betting against shit. What's the name of that stupid one draft Kings

7147
06:32:19,720 --> 06:32:21,720
Bedding

7148
06:32:21,840 --> 06:32:26,320
Yeah, did you not do this motherfucker? He said he said betting like 20 times. I just didn't want to correct

7149
06:32:26,320 --> 06:32:30,000
You were thinking like like for beds like yeah

7150
06:32:33,440 --> 06:32:35,440
You're so cute

7151
06:32:35,800 --> 06:32:39,120
You snark me I'll come in there and give you a slap

7152
06:32:39,560 --> 06:32:43,980
Oh, you don't want that or I'll put you on a well put you on a deep fake website

7153
06:32:45,240 --> 06:32:47,240
How about that one

7154
06:32:48,040 --> 06:32:57,380
Yeah, you know back in the day back in my day when people wanted to create digital sexual abuse material of me

7155
06:32:58,320 --> 06:33:04,120
What they had to do was photoshopped me I got I used to get DMS of people that would photoshopped

7156
06:33:04,120 --> 06:33:07,760
Come on to my face, but they had to go through the work

7157
06:33:09,000 --> 06:33:15,520
These digital sexual abusers now a day are lazy. They're getting a I did to it for them, dude

7158
06:33:15,840 --> 06:33:17,840
The talent is dying

7159
06:33:23,200 --> 06:33:26,200
No, I can't even get one laugh from the men in this call

7160
06:33:28,760 --> 06:33:30,760
I wasn't paying attention

7161
06:33:31,200 --> 06:33:33,200
You got a lot of she's right though

7162
06:33:33,840 --> 06:33:38,900
You know, they have used to have a she's right emo, but it just didn't feel as funny as putting an S in front of the

7163
06:33:46,840 --> 06:33:53,320
Well peach what what do you want?

7164
06:33:56,480 --> 06:34:00,800
Are you excited for door knocking? Oh, I'm not going door now

7165
06:34:01,920 --> 06:34:05,200
What do you mean? He has an incredibly successful stream. I frequently

7166
06:34:05,840 --> 06:34:11,600
He's also been massively successful since this happens was and of course continue to proliferate the majority of deep fakes vast majority are

7167
06:34:12,240 --> 06:34:17,120
Tech-enabled digital abuse because I was like hey. This is really harmful

7168
06:34:17,120 --> 06:34:25,320
These are there are real consequences to this proliferating use of this technology and deep fakes have only continued to proliferate the majority of deep fakes vast majority are

7169
06:34:25,760 --> 06:34:32,800
Very sexually explicit non-consensual images and videos and of course primarily target women and girls and it is a growing issue

7170
06:34:33,440 --> 06:34:37,640
He's also been massively successful since this happened. This has not heard him. He interviewed Gavin Newsom on his podcast

7171
06:34:37,640 --> 06:34:43,160
I think his podcast signed with Vox Media. Yeah, so the idea he's been like, let me just say let me just say to any Atrioc fans

7172
06:34:43,480 --> 06:34:48,520
Atrioc is not only perfectly fine. He's only in my understanding become even more successful

7173
06:34:49,080 --> 06:34:52,840
Since this happened three years ago. He has an incredibly successful stream

7174
06:34:53,000 --> 06:34:58,040
I frequently see him named as like one of the aside from Hassan when people are like what who should I listen to for politics?

7175
06:34:58,040 --> 06:35:00,040
Like I see his name all the time. I

7176
06:35:00,000 --> 06:35:04,340
- I know that his podcast signed with Vox Media,

7177
06:35:04,340 --> 06:35:08,640
he is good, he is good.

7178
06:35:08,640 --> 06:35:13,160
And really, I think for quite a few people,

7179
06:35:13,160 --> 06:35:16,400
it's as I said, where this becomes a self-reflection moment

7180
06:35:16,400 --> 06:35:20,360
that they feel like they are being shamed,

7181
06:35:20,360 --> 06:35:22,880
that they are being considered culpable

7182
06:35:22,880 --> 06:35:26,720
for continuing to be a fan of support a streamer

7183
06:35:26,720 --> 06:35:27,920
who did this.

7184
06:35:27,920 --> 06:35:31,380
And sorry, that's something you have to deal with.

7185
06:35:31,380 --> 06:35:34,240
Why is that Pokey's responsibility?

7186
06:35:34,240 --> 06:35:36,080
Like, why is that anyone else's

7187
06:35:36,080 --> 06:35:37,960
who is commenting on this matter and saying,

7188
06:35:37,960 --> 06:35:40,200
yeah, this was an awful thing,

7189
06:35:40,200 --> 06:35:42,720
and these are harms that don't just go away,

7190
06:35:42,720 --> 06:35:44,920
even when somebody who commits these harms

7191
06:35:44,920 --> 06:35:46,280
takes steps towards accountability,

7192
06:35:46,280 --> 06:35:48,800
like that doesn't erase the harm.

7193
06:35:48,800 --> 06:35:49,760
And I think people need--

7194
06:35:49,760 --> 06:35:52,480
- In fact, it seems like he has only benefited from this.

7195
06:35:52,480 --> 06:35:54,560
It seems like he now has this infinite shield

7196
06:35:54,560 --> 06:35:56,000
of rehabilitation attachment.

7197
06:35:56,000 --> 06:35:59,920
Why would anybody want that attached to them?

7198
06:35:59,920 --> 06:36:00,760
I'm really sure they would just rather

7199
06:36:00,760 --> 06:36:02,280
have never gone through the thing at all.

7200
06:36:02,280 --> 06:36:03,380
Oh my God.

7201
06:36:10,520 --> 06:36:12,320
- You need to really have a better understanding

7202
06:36:12,320 --> 06:36:14,760
of concepts of forgiveness and accountability

7203
06:36:14,760 --> 06:36:17,240
because that is not something that is,

7204
06:36:17,240 --> 06:36:19,640
forgiveness is not owed, it is not conditional.

7205
06:36:19,640 --> 06:36:22,320
And also, even in a case where forgiveness is granted,

7206
06:36:22,320 --> 06:36:24,720
it does not change the fact that harms were committed.

7207
06:36:24,720 --> 06:36:26,360
And it also doesn't then guarantee

7208
06:36:26,360 --> 06:36:28,360
that anything needs to result from that.

7209
06:36:28,360 --> 06:36:30,280
- Like, this is why nobody likes talking to leftists.

7210
06:36:30,280 --> 06:36:32,160
Everything is a fucking drag on everything.

7211
06:36:32,160 --> 06:36:33,160
Holy shit.

7212
06:36:33,160 --> 06:36:34,600
Like, you do one wrong thing and it's like,

7213
06:36:34,600 --> 06:36:36,840
your life is fucked and they want you to like,

7214
06:36:36,840 --> 06:36:38,360
kill yourself and hate everything forever.

7215
06:36:38,360 --> 06:36:40,320
Like, it's just so cringe the way that,

7216
06:36:40,320 --> 06:36:41,840
the way that this whole conversation is framed

7217
06:36:41,840 --> 06:36:43,000
is fucking wild.

7218
06:36:43,000 --> 06:36:44,480
Oh my God.

7219
06:36:44,480 --> 06:36:47,240
- I think they would be happy if he got hired

7220
06:36:47,240 --> 06:36:50,640
at a minimum wage job and then for the rest of his life,

7221
06:36:50,640 --> 06:36:53,560
donated all the proceeds of his McDonald's job

7222
06:36:53,560 --> 06:36:54,720
to Pokemon.

7223
06:36:54,720 --> 06:36:56,760
- Yeah, he should have left the internet

7224
06:36:56,760 --> 06:36:58,720
after all that shit got exposed.

7225
06:36:58,720 --> 06:37:00,640
Well done, Ludwig for enabling rape culture

7226
06:37:00,640 --> 06:37:02,880
involving your own wife and fellow female streamers.

7227
06:37:02,880 --> 06:37:04,320
What about QD?

7228
06:37:04,320 --> 06:37:06,760
Wouldn't QD be enabling rape culture then by that logic?

7229
06:37:06,760 --> 06:37:08,800
Like, more than Ludwig because she's the one

7230
06:37:08,800 --> 06:37:11,360
that eventually forgave him or I guess they got over it

7231
06:37:11,360 --> 06:37:13,280
or whatever you call their interaction.

7232
06:37:17,440 --> 06:37:20,240
- Your stand, let me just say too, I have a friend.

7233
06:37:21,840 --> 06:37:23,120
- Yep, I feel like the attention

7234
06:37:23,120 --> 06:37:25,760
from the first event made him even more successful

7235
06:37:25,760 --> 06:37:28,400
as it usually does for M-word.

7236
06:37:28,400 --> 06:37:29,600
What does that mean, moid?

7237
06:37:31,240 --> 06:37:32,080
- Men.

7238
06:37:34,000 --> 06:37:35,880
Can't even say it anymore.

7239
06:37:35,880 --> 06:37:37,600
Discuss me.

7240
06:37:37,600 --> 06:37:39,600
- M-word means men.

7241
06:37:39,600 --> 06:37:42,440
- That's crazy.

7242
06:37:42,440 --> 06:37:45,160
- M-word, powered by audacity, okay, based.

7243
06:37:50,040 --> 06:37:53,160
I have a friend who has also been going through this.

7244
06:37:53,160 --> 06:37:55,720
She found out that somebody very close to her

7245
06:37:55,720 --> 06:38:00,720
had paid for and been consuming non-consensual,

7246
06:38:02,600 --> 06:38:06,680
sexually explicit AI generated images of her and other--

7247
06:38:06,680 --> 06:38:09,240
- Thanks, we didn't know the AI generated image.

7248
06:38:09,240 --> 06:38:10,720
We didn't know they were non-consensual

7249
06:38:10,720 --> 06:38:13,480
and sexually explicit, thanks for all the adjectives.

7250
06:38:13,480 --> 06:38:14,320
- Women that--

7251
06:38:14,320 --> 06:38:16,880
- What a waste of breath, that's a deep fake.

7252
06:38:16,880 --> 06:38:17,880
- Just a deep fake.

7253
06:38:17,880 --> 06:38:19,720
Trees are working really hard for the oxygen

7254
06:38:19,720 --> 06:38:21,800
that she's consuming to say five fucking words

7255
06:38:21,800 --> 06:38:23,240
for the one word she could use.

7256
06:38:23,240 --> 06:38:25,480
- Yeah, every, yeah, Jesus.

7257
06:38:25,480 --> 06:38:30,480
- Julie had friends of and he had gone to her

7258
06:38:30,800 --> 06:38:34,440
to essentially have her help with relationship advice

7259
06:38:34,440 --> 06:38:36,760
and really had leaned on her emotionally

7260
06:38:36,760 --> 06:38:38,480
and non-stop, oh, peace right now,

7261
06:38:38,480 --> 06:38:39,320
thank you so much for the raid,

7262
06:38:39,320 --> 06:38:40,480
thank you, thank you, hope you all are well.

7263
06:38:40,480 --> 06:38:44,080
Had non-stop relied on her for guidance, for support

7264
06:38:44,080 --> 06:38:48,200
and then she found out that he had violated her in this way

7265
06:38:48,200 --> 06:38:50,360
and they should be shameful because they are supporting

7266
06:38:50,360 --> 06:38:52,240
a person who does not care about harming women,

7267
06:38:52,240 --> 06:38:53,960
does not care about harming women.

7268
06:38:55,960 --> 06:38:58,920
- After sending him a very, very, very long letter

7269
06:38:58,920 --> 06:39:02,880
detailing why this is so hurtful, he never responded.

7270
06:39:04,120 --> 06:39:05,800
Never respond, anyway, let's just one example.

7271
06:39:05,800 --> 06:39:06,640
I know--

7272
06:39:06,640 --> 06:39:08,800
- I feel, I don't even know what this story.

7273
06:39:08,800 --> 06:39:10,400
How would the person who would find out?

7274
06:39:10,400 --> 06:39:12,880
I don't, whatever, I don't even know, she is.

7275
06:39:12,880 --> 06:39:15,240
- Too many women who have been targeted

7276
06:39:15,240 --> 06:39:20,240
and violated in this way, but what I have heard from her,

7277
06:39:20,400 --> 06:39:24,400
even in the months since this happened

7278
06:39:24,400 --> 06:39:26,760
is how much pain she still feels

7279
06:39:26,760 --> 06:39:29,960
and how this has erupted her trust

7280
06:39:29,960 --> 06:39:31,400
in other male friends of hers

7281
06:39:31,400 --> 06:39:33,240
because this was a male friend

7282
06:39:33,240 --> 06:39:35,680
who she considered one of her closest friends

7283
06:39:35,680 --> 06:39:38,080
and it's been devastating on so many different levels,

7284
06:39:38,080 --> 06:39:39,600
violating on so many different levels

7285
06:39:39,600 --> 06:39:42,400
and has caused her to have like serious PTSD.

7286
06:39:42,400 --> 06:39:45,800
And anyway, I use this example just to--

7287
06:39:45,800 --> 06:39:50,800
- PTSD from defects, PTSD from defects, by the way.

7288
06:39:51,080 --> 06:39:55,120
- Just to reiterate here that the harm

7289
06:39:55,120 --> 06:40:00,120
from this type of, this use of this test,

7290
06:40:00,000 --> 06:40:07,400
back. These harms are serious harms. And the people who are victimized and violated in

7291
06:40:07,400 --> 06:40:13,080
this way are the ones who get to decide for themselves how they feel and how they will

7292
06:40:13,080 --> 06:40:19,080
proceed. And that is not up for anyone else. But on top of that, why I always feel the

7293
06:40:19,080 --> 06:40:26,520
need to have this broader conversation is because I don't like how frequently this becomes

7294
06:40:26,520 --> 06:40:31,000
the case where people go, yes, well, he apologized. Yes, well, he's taken. What do you want

7295
06:40:31,000 --> 06:40:36,000
him to do? Kill himself, which OK, you are insane. Oh, OK. Do you not do not hear yourself

7296
06:40:36,000 --> 06:40:40,080
when you say what you want to do? Kill himself? Is anybody saying that? OK, oh, well, then

7297
06:40:40,080 --> 06:40:43,400
well, she's about to tell us what she thinks redemption looks like. OK, thank you. That's

7298
06:40:43,400 --> 06:40:47,880
good. Because I we are being a bit hyperbolic. OK, what should happen? Why why you jump to

7299
06:40:47,880 --> 06:40:52,480
OK, that accusation, what should happen when somebody is expressing? OK, what should have

7300
06:40:52,480 --> 06:40:58,720
been victimized? OK, what should happen? I just need people to understand the concept

7301
06:40:58,720 --> 06:41:03,360
of empathy. I need them to understand why so frequently sympathy flows in one direction.

7302
06:41:03,360 --> 06:41:08,960
It is going to be sympathy for men and women. That direction is towards male perpetrators

7303
06:41:08,960 --> 06:41:15,000
of harm. And especially when they have higher social and economic capital, it just enables

7304
06:41:15,000 --> 06:41:19,920
more of that sympathy flow, that empathy flow in one direction. But what happens is

7305
06:41:19,920 --> 06:41:25,760
because it's one direction, it is at the expense then of female victims of male perpetrators.

7306
06:41:25,760 --> 06:41:30,100
There is no empathy that is granted to them. There is no understanding. There is no generosity.

7307
06:41:30,100 --> 06:41:37,280
There's no terror that. I don't want your empathy to get your empathy. Yes, Steve and

7308
06:41:37,280 --> 06:41:44,560
I were part of the boner class ability that is granted to the victims. It is empathy only

7309
06:41:44,560 --> 06:41:49,080
for men. Hence, empathy. Yes, it is a term that was coined by, I think, a sociologist

7310
06:41:49,080 --> 06:41:52,160
and I'm reminded of the HuffPost article. I don't know how to explain to you that you

7311
06:41:52,160 --> 06:41:55,680
should care about other people. Yes. And so if in a moment, like now where

7312
06:41:55,680 --> 06:42:01,080
Pokey Maine is expressing herself, if your reaction is to shut that down, to accuse her

7313
06:42:01,080 --> 06:42:04,920
of wanting a truck dad to accuse us. Is she going to say what she wants? Wait, did I miss

7314
06:42:04,920 --> 06:42:08,520
it? Because she made fun of people who are saying that she wants them to kill himself.

7315
06:42:08,520 --> 06:42:14,000
Is she going to say what she wants them to do? Or? Of anything that posits a triock as

7316
06:42:14,000 --> 06:42:21,580
a victim here, that is you perpetuating harms that women so frequently are expected to just

7317
06:42:21,580 --> 06:42:24,920
deal with in silence. No, we don't recognize the people we choose

7318
06:42:24,920 --> 06:42:27,760
to include exclude others, including a track excludes Pokey and other women. That's how

7319
06:42:27,760 --> 06:42:30,960
we culture and patriarchy perpetuates those men get elevated status. Meanwhile, the victim

7320
06:42:30,960 --> 06:42:37,640
is isolated. Yes. So of course, it's somebody's right to include, you know, whatever, like

7321
06:42:37,640 --> 06:42:42,480
if a truck's at an event, but understanding that understanding that that is going to

7322
06:42:42,480 --> 06:42:49,000
have an effect in this space on not just people who were directly harmed by him, but others

7323
06:42:49,000 --> 06:42:54,900
who sit here and see all these comments who sit here and see the normalizing of this culture.

7324
06:42:54,900 --> 06:42:58,400
Like please understand that whenever something like who's normalized it, what do you think

7325
06:42:58,400 --> 06:43:04,520
is being normalized? It's dude, the buzzword salad slop shit for these people is crazy.

7326
06:43:04,520 --> 06:43:09,920
Oh my God. This goes viral. It's not just people who were directly hurt, who have to

7327
06:43:09,920 --> 06:43:17,040
sit there silently and read people have absolutely zero empathy for them, but it's also those

7328
06:43:17,040 --> 06:43:22,480
who have been similarly harmed. It always has a wider effect. Yeah. My best friend's

7329
06:43:22,480 --> 06:43:26,440
co-worker was going on showing them in other employees, AI generated bikini pics. I was

7330
06:43:26,440 --> 06:43:28,760
a girlfriend, women cannot even trust them and they think they can trust in that. They

7331
06:43:28,760 --> 06:43:33,200
should be able to trust it's fucking insane. Yeah. Unfortunately, just too many examples.

7332
06:43:33,200 --> 06:43:46,600
Um, gosh, she's so eloquent. I wish I could have, look, it's my job. Oh my God. I gotta

7333
06:43:46,600 --> 06:43:54,400
go as well. I can innovate again. Why? But she's probably he's talking about her. She's

7334
06:43:54,400 --> 06:44:05,520
really breeding her own. She's cheering herself off. Bob is CEO of women. I wish I could have

7335
06:44:05,520 --> 06:44:11,920
a mini girl. Caroline, if you ever need a job, well, you know, I need a publicist. Maybe

7336
06:44:11,920 --> 06:44:17,360
I'll go do PR in in the industry to challenge Melissa Nathan to challenge tag agency. I'll

7337
06:44:17,360 --> 06:44:25,160
go. It's now Caroline Quan agency. She is so lovely. So sweet. Sometimes I've looked at

7338
06:44:25,160 --> 06:44:28,920
them and be like, Oh, that makes me feel better. I already do do free producer work for fear

7339
06:44:28,920 --> 06:44:34,360
and that's true. I bet you, Pokey would pay very generously. Certainly much more than

7340
06:44:34,360 --> 06:44:37,880
fear and afraid converter. Think of the 15 Sarnex, think of the six over think of the

7341
06:44:37,880 --> 06:44:47,840
13 off my memory is the 45 orange guy. They was 17 J for the two, Danny with the seven.

7342
06:44:47,840 --> 06:44:57,280
So what was I going to add here? Oh, yeah, I guess, I guess I'll just, I guess I will

7343
06:44:57,280 --> 06:45:00,000
just say again, check your reaction.

7344
06:45:00,000 --> 06:45:09,880
Check your initial response to somebody expressing how they feel after having been a victim of

7345
06:45:09,880 --> 06:45:10,880
sexual abuse.

7346
06:45:10,880 --> 06:45:14,680
And that is what non-consensual sexual explicit deep fake images and videos are.

7347
06:45:14,680 --> 06:45:15,680
That is how it's classified.

7348
06:45:15,680 --> 06:45:20,520
This is not just me making this up to serve my own point here.

7349
06:45:20,520 --> 06:45:27,120
And when you respond in a way that shuts this down, that treats Atriac or whoever else,

7350
06:45:27,120 --> 06:45:32,220
whatever other male streamers, the victim here, have expressed more sympathy, more empathy

7351
06:45:32,220 --> 06:45:39,600
for a man who committed harm, understand that you're not only treating the victims of said

7352
06:45:39,600 --> 06:45:46,220
harm so disrespectfully and in a dehumanizing manner, but that extends beyond.

7353
06:45:46,220 --> 06:45:54,400
That is the culture of placing the responsibility on victims and taking that away from those

7354
06:45:54,400 --> 06:45:55,560
committing the harm.

7355
06:45:55,560 --> 06:46:01,160
And it is also like very frustrating to see the concept of rehabilitation be thrown back

7356
06:46:01,160 --> 06:46:04,000
in any leftist, especially leftist feminist face where it's like, Oh, I thought you're

7357
06:46:04,000 --> 06:46:05,000
all about rehabilitation.

7358
06:46:05,000 --> 06:46:09,080
We're not having that conversation because you don't understand the concept of rehabilitation.

7359
06:46:09,080 --> 06:46:15,320
All you understand is how to protect a male influencer who you are a fan of.

7360
06:46:15,320 --> 06:46:17,880
That's the only conversation that you know how to conduct.

7361
06:46:17,880 --> 06:46:26,560
That's the only thing that you're interested in.

7362
06:46:26,560 --> 06:46:30,540
So it's a shield to deflect from criticism and shame victims and to silence fuck all those

7363
06:46:30,540 --> 06:46:31,960
leftists who wield it against the oppressed.

7364
06:46:31,960 --> 06:46:32,960
Yeah.

7365
06:46:32,960 --> 06:46:37,540
I mean, that's something that is frequently thrown in my face whenever I am talking about

7366
06:46:37,540 --> 06:46:41,800
the culture of abuse and patriarchal violence like, Oh, I thought you were thought you were

7367
06:46:41,800 --> 06:46:46,240
a leftist thought you cared all about rehab.

7368
06:46:46,240 --> 06:46:53,120
So, no, yeah, all right.

7369
06:46:53,120 --> 06:46:59,440
Hearing this for the first time and yeah, I guess I am, I guess I realized maybe not

7370
06:46:59,440 --> 06:47:04,120
everybody was around or aware of when this took place.

7371
06:47:04,120 --> 06:47:05,920
I have commented on it before.

7372
06:47:05,920 --> 06:47:09,480
So this is not the first time I commented on it, but I did feel the need to say something

7373
06:47:09,480 --> 06:47:17,320
again, because the responses to the responses to Pokemon have been pretty awful, which is

7374
06:47:17,320 --> 06:47:20,880
not super surprising, though.

7375
06:47:20,880 --> 06:47:22,640
Every victim is an individual person who can choose.

7376
06:47:22,640 --> 06:47:26,200
Poking gets so much hate and no one defends her as literally every single woman on Twitch

7377
06:47:26,200 --> 06:47:29,480
flocks to her replies as soon as anything ever happens.

7378
06:47:29,480 --> 06:47:30,480
Oh, my God.

7379
06:47:30,480 --> 06:47:32,400
To forgive or not forgive their views or tech, et cetera.

7380
06:47:32,400 --> 06:47:33,400
Yeah.

7381
06:47:33,400 --> 06:47:34,400
Yeah.

7382
06:47:34,400 --> 06:47:35,400
Yeah.

7383
06:47:35,400 --> 06:47:40,760
So, somebody to say again, somebody forgiving does not erase the harm that happened.

7384
06:47:40,760 --> 06:47:44,800
Brooke, what's up, girlfriend, coming from my personal experiences as someone who's on

7385
06:47:44,800 --> 06:47:45,800
the site?

7386
06:47:45,800 --> 06:47:46,800
Yep.

7387
06:47:46,800 --> 06:47:48,800
I think people are underestimating the effect this has had on a lot of people's lives is

7388
06:47:48,800 --> 06:47:50,680
hating on Spokey for a valid response is sick.

7389
06:47:50,680 --> 06:47:51,680
Yeah.

7390
06:47:51,680 --> 06:47:52,680
Yeah.

7391
06:47:52,680 --> 06:47:56,880
And I just really need people to understand also, but that's so sweet.

7392
06:47:56,880 --> 06:47:57,880
Yeah.

7393
06:47:57,880 --> 06:47:58,880
Your first message is so sweet.

7394
06:47:58,880 --> 06:47:59,880
I love you.

7395
06:47:59,880 --> 06:48:00,880
I need people to understand.

7396
06:48:00,880 --> 06:48:01,880
This is not just about.

7397
06:48:01,880 --> 06:48:02,880
This is not just about all women.

7398
06:48:02,880 --> 06:48:07,840
It's about all women and patriarchy when you say rape culture.

7399
06:48:07,840 --> 06:48:11,720
When you make these comments online, like the ones that Pokey has been receiving, you

7400
06:48:11,720 --> 06:48:14,280
are sending this message to all victims.

7401
06:48:14,280 --> 06:48:23,800
You are participating in keeping a culture, keeping a culture around and very much alive

7402
06:48:23,800 --> 06:48:32,120
that is harmful to the most vulnerable people in and under that culture, as well as making

7403
06:48:32,120 --> 06:48:39,280
it harder to stop these behaviors from continuing to happen.

7404
06:48:39,280 --> 06:48:40,480
It's a way to push women out of Twitch.

7405
06:48:40,480 --> 06:48:56,720
I mean, it's just, it is, it is a, it is reinforcing really harmful standards and, like, what is,

7406
06:48:56,720 --> 06:48:58,480
I don't even know what, I don't know.

7407
06:48:58,480 --> 06:48:59,480
What is being reinforced?

7408
06:48:59,480 --> 06:49:03,040
That's why I, I just, I have to say, stop doing this.

7409
06:49:03,040 --> 06:49:04,040
Nobody thinks it's good.

7410
06:49:04,040 --> 06:49:05,040
How many times is it?

7411
06:49:05,040 --> 06:49:06,040
It's good.

7412
06:49:06,040 --> 06:49:08,040
I genuinely want to ask this to understand better and grow as I feel.

7413
06:49:08,040 --> 06:49:09,540
Confliction on this, I trust your opinion more than most.

7414
06:49:09,540 --> 06:49:12,000
It doesn't need to be forgiven or accepted by Pokey doesn't just act as a shot at him.

7415
06:49:12,000 --> 06:49:13,000
If I go on, I'm just curious.

7416
06:49:13,000 --> 06:49:15,800
If I go and look up her tweets, I didn't follow the French protest stuff, but do you

7417
06:49:15,800 --> 06:49:18,920
think she defends like the riots and everything and says how based it is and everything got

7418
06:49:18,920 --> 06:49:21,480
fucking destroyed and they just haven't shown something, because that shit's worse than

7419
06:49:21,480 --> 06:49:22,480
Deep Pig porn, by the way.

7420
06:49:22,480 --> 06:49:26,720
It's like writing and destroying people's fucking entire livelihoods, but I don't know.

7421
06:49:26,720 --> 06:49:29,620
I'm just assuming that maybe she's not, maybe she's actually super against the violence,

7422
06:49:29,620 --> 06:49:30,620
maybe.

7423
06:49:30,620 --> 06:49:32,520
Nowhere after he did work to apologize, make events the best of his ability, like it feels

7424
06:49:32,520 --> 06:49:35,040
like we're opening a wound from three and a half years ago out of nowhere, and understand

7425
06:49:35,040 --> 06:49:39,080
if he was acting negatively, but he's been the most inoffensive person since then.

7426
06:49:39,080 --> 06:49:43,760
Um, okay, so he was acting negatively, but he's been the most inoffensive shot at him

7427
06:49:43,760 --> 06:49:45,920
out of nowhere after he did work to apologize, make events the best of his ability, like it

7428
06:49:45,920 --> 06:49:48,560
feels like we're opening a wound from three and a half years ago out of nowhere, and understand

7429
06:49:48,560 --> 06:49:51,560
if he was acting negatively, but he's been the most inoffensive person since then.

7430
06:49:51,560 --> 06:49:53,200
Oh, excuse me.

7431
06:49:53,200 --> 06:49:56,880
Are you trying to tell a victim what they're allowed to do ever?

7432
06:49:56,880 --> 06:49:57,720
Excuse me.

7433
06:50:00,000 --> 06:50:03,000
- Excuse me, uh-oh. - Okay, so...

7434
06:50:03,000 --> 06:50:05,000
Let's educate this person, let's go.

7435
06:50:09,000 --> 06:50:13,000
- In saying this feels like taking a shot at him out of nowhere.

7436
06:50:13,000 --> 06:50:17,000
- You're basically saying that the victim is not allowed to even fucking breathe.

7437
06:50:17,000 --> 06:50:20,000
- What, you may not be aware that this is what you're doing,

7438
06:50:20,000 --> 06:50:28,000
but what you're doing is still putting a timeline on how Pokey should handle the abuse she experienced.

7439
06:50:28,000 --> 06:50:33,000
And you're putting kind of restriction, like time restrictions, limitations on trauma.

7440
06:50:33,000 --> 06:50:36,000
And trauma doesn't work in one specific way.

7441
06:50:36,000 --> 06:50:43,000
It's not something where a traumatizing event happens to you and then, like, within a week or within a few days you're good.

7442
06:50:43,000 --> 06:50:45,000
There are things that can re-trigger that trauma.

7443
06:50:45,000 --> 06:50:52,000
And I will say that I also was surprised in the last year to see Atrioc around at a lot more events.

7444
06:50:52,000 --> 06:50:58,000
And it did feel like there were too many people who when this happened didn't say anything.

7445
06:50:58,000 --> 06:51:00,000
- Whoa.

7446
06:51:00,000 --> 06:51:07,000
- And then waited until, I guess, enough time had passed, people had moved on to then continue business as usual.

7447
06:51:07,000 --> 06:51:11,000
So one problem I had is that when this happened, it was mostly women.

7448
06:51:11,000 --> 06:51:16,000
It was mostly like the victims of the situation as well as other women who were commenting on this

7449
06:51:16,000 --> 06:51:21,000
and asking for male streamers to be better, to hold each other accountable.

7450
06:51:21,000 --> 06:51:24,000
- I don't even know what, who was defending Atrioc when this happened?

7451
06:51:24,000 --> 06:51:28,000
I'm sure I maybe did anybody?

7452
06:51:28,000 --> 06:51:35,000
Was anybody, were any streamer people defending Atrioc during this?

7453
06:51:35,000 --> 06:51:39,000
- So as far as this being a shot at him out of nowhere, it's not out of nowhere.

7454
06:51:39,000 --> 06:51:44,000
It's not out of nowhere because I will tell you, in Pokey's own words, this has been a struggle over the last couple of years.

7455
06:51:44,000 --> 06:51:51,000
And then seeing him recently at, seeing him pop up has re-triggered.

7456
06:51:51,000 --> 06:51:53,000
- Oh my God.

7457
06:51:53,000 --> 06:51:54,000
- Her feelings.

7458
06:51:54,000 --> 06:51:58,000
- Like she, if she all donated $10 million to Caroline Quantstream,

7459
06:51:58,000 --> 06:52:01,000
if she can say CPTSD before this is over, oh my God, bro.

7460
06:52:01,000 --> 06:52:04,000
- Are not feelings that have just gone away because of time.

7461
06:52:04,000 --> 06:52:07,000
Because it feels, it feels unresolved for her.

7462
06:52:07,000 --> 06:52:09,000
And that is absolutely...

7463
06:52:09,000 --> 06:52:10,000
- Valid.

7464
06:52:10,000 --> 06:52:13,000
- An understandable response and one that she has the right to have.

7465
06:52:13,000 --> 06:52:15,000
- Has Pokey--

7466
06:52:15,000 --> 06:52:18,000
- My biggest pet peeves people saying he's paid his own money.

7467
06:52:18,000 --> 06:52:21,000
- Is Pokey from this incident or did she just use that word for fun?

7468
06:52:21,000 --> 06:52:23,000
- Has Pokey what?

7469
06:52:23,000 --> 06:52:26,000
- Claimed that she got PTSD from this experience?

7470
06:52:26,000 --> 06:52:31,000
- I don't know if she used that word, but she was like, I thought about taking EMDR therapy or Aida.

7471
06:52:31,000 --> 06:52:36,000
But the way she, I don't know, the way that she giggles and chats about it and was,

7472
06:52:36,000 --> 06:52:40,000
the bringing that, wait, were you here earlier for the, was she brought it up on stream?

7473
06:52:40,000 --> 06:52:42,000
- No.

7474
06:52:42,000 --> 06:52:48,000
- Like, um, I think this is just crazy to me.

7475
06:52:48,000 --> 06:52:53,000
- It's really, and the thing is, I think people don't realize because they probably couldn't see on the stream.

7476
06:52:53,000 --> 06:52:55,000
I know that these are all...

7477
06:52:55,000 --> 06:52:57,000
Because I, you know, I take photos of myself.

7478
06:52:57,000 --> 06:52:58,000
- This is a person who's triggered?

7479
06:52:58,000 --> 06:53:02,000
This is a person who like is, is like, I'm using this like in the actual sense.

7480
06:53:02,000 --> 06:53:05,000
Like, if something ever reminds her of it, she has like a fucking trauma response to this,

7481
06:53:05,000 --> 06:53:07,000
but she's like literally showing it on stream.

7482
06:53:10,000 --> 06:53:13,000
- I have a different take than you on that.

7483
06:53:13,000 --> 06:53:15,000
- What? What's the take?

7484
06:53:15,000 --> 06:53:20,000
- Well, I have diagnosed PTSD over something.

7485
06:53:20,000 --> 06:53:21,000
- Okay.

7486
06:53:21,000 --> 06:53:28,000
- And I can talk about that thing, and it doesn't make me like freak out.

7487
06:53:28,000 --> 06:53:31,000
- Like, and have pictures and videos of the thing up?

7488
06:53:31,000 --> 06:53:34,000
- No, no, no, no, not that.

7489
06:53:34,000 --> 06:53:41,000
- Hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

7490
06:53:41,000 --> 06:53:42,000
- Yeah.

7491
06:53:42,000 --> 06:53:43,000
- Oh, okay.

7492
06:53:43,000 --> 06:53:44,000
- Yeah.

7493
06:53:44,000 --> 06:53:45,000
- Yeah.

7494
06:53:45,000 --> 06:53:46,000
That's what I'm talking about.

7495
06:53:46,000 --> 06:53:48,000
I'm saying that's crazy to me.

7496
06:53:48,000 --> 06:53:55,000
- Yeah, no, I'm saying that I'd be very disturbed.

7497
06:53:55,000 --> 06:53:56,000
- Yeah.

7498
06:53:56,000 --> 06:53:58,000
That's insane to me.

7499
06:53:58,000 --> 06:54:00,000
Yeah, I don't know.

7500
06:54:00,000 --> 06:54:03,000
It makes me doubt a lot of what's being said.

7501
06:54:03,000 --> 06:54:04,000
- Yeah.

7502
06:54:04,000 --> 06:54:07,000
- Money to get deep picks taken down and tried to help.

7503
06:54:07,000 --> 06:54:09,000
They have no idea the hundreds of thousands of dollars we've sent.

7504
06:54:09,000 --> 06:54:11,000
Yeah, I mentioned this earlier.

7505
06:54:11,000 --> 06:54:14,000
- To reiterate or whatever, for what you said though, somebody can be, I believe,

7506
06:54:14,000 --> 06:54:17,000
well, you don't have to believe me, but I'm sure I'll just say, there's a certain way

7507
06:54:17,000 --> 06:54:20,000
that you could be triggered by a certain event or something that can remind you of a thing

7508
06:54:20,000 --> 06:54:23,000
that can set up a response, but that doesn't mean that you're incapable of having a conversation

7509
06:54:23,000 --> 06:54:26,000
about said thing without getting triggered by it, right?

7510
06:54:26,000 --> 06:54:27,000
I agree with that.

7511
06:54:27,000 --> 06:54:28,000
That makes sense to me.

7512
06:54:28,000 --> 06:54:32,000
Pulling pictures of it on stream though, knowing that the whole world, that's insane to me.

7513
06:54:32,000 --> 06:54:35,000
That's very, very hard for me to wave.

7514
06:54:35,000 --> 06:54:36,000
- Yeah, it's different.

7515
06:54:36,000 --> 06:54:38,000
- We have spent of our own money to do the same, but we aren't getting a round of applause

7516
06:54:38,000 --> 06:54:40,000
for as the victims, exactly.

7517
06:54:40,000 --> 06:54:42,000
I have tried to get sites taken down.

7518
06:54:42,000 --> 06:54:47,000
I have so many friends who have spent a lot of money to take down these sites, and it is

7519
06:54:47,000 --> 06:54:51,000
frustrating that this kind of falls into the good man versus bad man, good men who don't

7520
06:54:51,000 --> 06:54:57,000
rape, bad men who rape, where men are gifted, benefits from a patriarchal society for simply

7521
06:54:57,000 --> 06:54:58,000
doing the bare minimum.

7522
06:54:58,000 --> 06:55:00,040
For simply, like, not being a rapist.

7523
06:55:00,000 --> 06:55:04,160
they then confer the benefits of that, whereas there is not that there's

7524
06:55:09,760 --> 06:55:15,520
who don't rape bad men who rape where men are gifted benefits from a patriarchal society

7525
06:55:15,520 --> 06:55:19,840
for simply doing the bare minimum for simply like not being a rapist they then confer the

7526
06:55:19,840 --> 06:55:29,040
benefits of that whereas there is not that what does that mean with the not a rapist card?

7527
06:55:29,760 --> 06:55:36,080
there's not that labeling for women there's not that provided for victims of sexual abuse

7528
06:55:37,120 --> 06:55:41,680
so it is like please understand I don't even know which that I actually I'm usually I can

7529
06:55:41,680 --> 06:55:44,640
understand a lot of the weird progressive speak or the lefty speak I actually have no fucking

7530
06:55:44,640 --> 06:55:49,280
idea what she's even saying here I have to re-listen to this and it is frustrating that this kind of

7531
06:55:49,280 --> 06:55:54,320
falls into the like good man versus bad man good men who don't rape bad men who rape where men are

7532
06:55:54,320 --> 06:55:59,600
gifted benefits from a patriarchal society for simply doing the bare minimum for simply

7533
06:56:00,000 --> 06:56:05,520
not being a rapist they then confer the benefits of that whereas there is not that there's not that

7534
06:56:05,520 --> 06:56:13,120
labeling for women there's not that provided for victims of sexual abuse so it is like please

7535
06:56:13,120 --> 06:56:18,480
understand why that's also a frustrating thing for women to have to see being used as a reason

7536
06:56:18,480 --> 06:56:24,160
why nobody is allowed to feel any type of way over the situation because of the monetary spending

7537
06:56:24,160 --> 06:56:31,120
here when that is a normal unfortunately a normal part of many female streamers lives that they

7538
06:56:31,120 --> 06:56:36,480
spend money to protect themselves against stalkers against harassers they have to hire security they

7539
06:56:36,480 --> 06:56:43,920
have to pay a lot of money to take down these websites and so what I'm asking what I'm asking

7540
06:56:43,920 --> 06:56:53,760
is why is the sympathy why is the empathy always one directional and so often that that initial

7541
06:56:53,760 --> 06:57:00,960
reaction right the doling out of sympathy is not granted to victims so they are expected to silently

7542
06:57:02,480 --> 06:57:10,640
deal with their trauma and and the realities of living in a culture in which victims are

7543
06:57:11,280 --> 06:57:11,760
hold on

7544
06:57:14,080 --> 06:57:19,200
i'm just curious because she just mentioned about all this um

7545
06:57:20,720 --> 06:57:26,240
stuff that women are expected to deal with the harassment of what did um did Caroline

7546
06:57:26,240 --> 06:57:30,400
quan make a statement or say anything about when emerald got like assaulted at twitch con do you

7547
06:57:30,400 --> 06:57:35,360
know do you remember this event were you here for that i do yeah did she make a there's someone

7548
06:57:35,360 --> 06:57:39,920
ran up and tried to kiss her right yeah like through security i think he did

7549
06:57:50,960 --> 06:57:59,280
I can hear the beep yeah it's outside somewhere bro it's been going off all day

7550
06:57:59,280 --> 06:58:02,080
it's very slight i don't know what's happening just start me crazy somebody's doing it

7551
06:58:05,200 --> 06:58:12,560
that's unheard about your mariachi band plan rosy one

7552
06:58:20,160 --> 06:58:28,560
i have a counter i think if you'll uh oh she has a oh she did three lines

7553
06:58:28,560 --> 06:58:31,520
emmy i'm so sorry this happened you thank you for sharing this and as many have said

7554
06:58:31,520 --> 06:58:35,040
this was completely unacceptable it never should have happened it's any possible apart okay nice

7555
06:58:38,960 --> 06:58:40,320
okay so my counter is this

7556
06:58:42,400 --> 06:58:47,200
if george floyd was count uh caught looking at deep fakes do you think that pokey

7557
06:58:47,200 --> 06:58:52,000
man and these people would still be holding it against him are you cooking i'm telling you no

7558
06:58:57,040 --> 06:58:58,640
wait it's a hundred percent true

7559
06:59:01,040 --> 06:59:06,000
i don't know what you're cooking man wait oh am i wrong tell me tell me i actually burned it

7560
06:59:06,000 --> 06:59:11,440
you burned this guy off oh my god mr mooten pc can't like say anything you burned it tell me

7561
06:59:11,440 --> 06:59:14,480
tell me i'm wrong you're scared you're scared to say i'm correct that's a problem

7562
06:59:17,040 --> 06:59:23,360
coward type what type one if he burned it type two if i'm correct type two if it's perfectly cooked

7563
06:59:25,520 --> 06:59:31,760
it's even split no that is the most perfectly accurate thing of all time i'm telling you right now

7564
06:59:32,800 --> 06:59:37,600
if instead of atriak it was george floyd like this would have like no they would have been like

7565
06:59:37,600 --> 06:59:47,040
oh don't worry about it it's true

7566
06:59:52,240 --> 06:59:55,840
i mean it's obviously not that they have some principled stance right because hasan's just there

7567
06:59:56,400 --> 06:59:59,920
looking at uh you know why does he get the pass why is that okay

7568
07:00:00,000 --> 07:00:03,760
that he's looking at leaked stolen nudes from all these celebrities.

7569
07:00:03,760 --> 07:00:05,920
So it's not any moral principle they have.

7570
07:00:05,920 --> 07:00:10,160
It's just acceptable to hate on Atriok and fun and cool, and I get attention.

7571
07:00:10,160 --> 07:00:12,640
Wait, Hassan looked at people's leaked news?

7572
07:00:12,640 --> 07:00:14,400
No, no, no, people would send us stuff.

7573
07:00:14,400 --> 07:00:16,320
And he'd show us friends and stuff all the time, because he'd get shit through.

7574
07:00:16,320 --> 07:00:18,160
No, no, he looked at the deepfakes.

7575
07:00:18,160 --> 07:00:19,920
No, no, no, he looked at the fappening.

7576
07:00:19,920 --> 07:00:21,680
The fappening. The fappening's were not deepfakes, though.

7577
07:00:21,680 --> 07:00:23,120
Those were actual hacked images.

7578
07:00:23,120 --> 07:00:24,800
I said, yeah, I said, yeah, right?

7579
07:00:24,800 --> 07:00:27,600
Yeah. Are those leaked images of people?

7580
07:00:27,600 --> 07:00:31,840
A long time ago, like, I don't know, 15 years ago or something,

7581
07:00:31,840 --> 07:00:36,160
there was a huge iCloud hack where people were able to get into a whole bunch of iCloud

7582
07:00:36,160 --> 07:00:38,480
accounts and a lot of celebrities have their nudes leaked online.

7583
07:00:38,480 --> 07:00:44,640
And then I don't remember if this was a Young Turk segment or if it was like a

7584
07:00:45,520 --> 07:00:48,640
bro-tib segment, but I think they were talking about going through the fappening

7585
07:00:48,640 --> 07:00:51,120
and how lucky everybody was to see all the-- or whatever, something like--

7586
07:00:51,120 --> 07:00:52,160
I don't remember this as long as I'm going to go, yeah.

7587
07:00:53,920 --> 07:00:57,120
But I feel like that is infinitely worse.

7588
07:00:57,120 --> 07:00:59,120
I mean, it's pretty bad, but he would just say he was joking or--

7589
07:01:00,160 --> 07:01:02,560
But, yeah. And Anna posted the thing.

7590
07:01:03,760 --> 07:01:06,720
Co-workers looking at the leak nudes from the hacking scandal while I judge them.

7591
07:01:13,120 --> 07:01:20,240
Yeah, it's all just fucking attention and id-pull and semantics.

7592
07:01:20,240 --> 07:01:26,080
And it's easy to-- like, Adriax the perfect target because you'll never push back, ever.

7593
07:01:26,080 --> 07:01:29,600
He'd be like, "You're right. I was so bad. I deserved to be punished forever."

7594
07:01:29,600 --> 07:01:33,280
Well, none of these people will because this is the-- the lib network.

7595
07:01:34,080 --> 07:01:36,640
Did I-- I must not have seen this article because I feel like I would have reached out at it.

7596
07:01:36,640 --> 07:01:39,280
I'm sorry, I was looking to see if Caroline had said anything about this because they all

7597
07:01:39,280 --> 07:01:42,720
fucking hate Emery because she's in the Aspen Gold network, I guess.

7598
07:01:42,720 --> 07:01:45,200
So they-- so all of them, she's like a public enemy to these people.

7599
07:01:46,480 --> 07:01:48,080
And so I just asked Claude for this.

7600
07:01:48,080 --> 07:01:49,760
And some of the quotes that it was pulling out--

7601
07:01:51,360 --> 07:01:52,560
"Are you fucking kidding me?"

7602
07:01:53,200 --> 07:01:56,320
Twitch also maintained a special purple lounge exclusively for premium partners,

7603
07:01:56,320 --> 07:01:59,680
aka those with high view counts that they could access without ever exposing themselves to the

7604
07:01:59,680 --> 07:02:01,600
hopefully washed masses.

7605
07:02:01,600 --> 07:02:06,000
Quote, "I could go from my hotel room to events without ever encountering any floor time," end quote.

7606
07:02:06,000 --> 07:02:10,560
Politics streamer Michael Mike from PA Bayer, who is no stranger to the kinds of politically

7607
07:02:10,560 --> 07:02:15,280
motivated death threats that made Twitch especially squeamish this year, told Aftermath.

7608
07:02:15,280 --> 07:02:18,000
Quote, "So I could go through a utility elevator in the hotel,

7609
07:02:18,000 --> 07:02:21,760
get into a black suburban, be taken to the convention center and go to the purple lounge,

7610
07:02:21,760 --> 07:02:23,920
which is behind two layers of security as well.

7611
07:02:23,920 --> 07:02:25,760
Former police, military about it, et cetera.

7612
07:02:25,760 --> 07:02:27,520
First of all, who the fuck are you?

7613
07:02:27,520 --> 07:02:31,040
Holy shit, I'm infinitely more popular than this motherfucker ever was and ever will be.

7614
07:02:31,040 --> 07:02:32,400
And I just walked through the front.

7615
07:02:32,400 --> 07:02:35,920
Yeah, when are they ever-- maybe in one of the last year or two, I guess.

7616
07:02:35,920 --> 07:02:38,240
But Mike from PA, no shot.

7617
07:02:38,240 --> 07:02:41,520
Also, this motherfucker has made death threats multiple times to people.

7618
07:02:41,520 --> 07:02:45,520
Why would-- it's crazy that he's the guy quoted for this at all.

7619
07:02:45,520 --> 07:02:47,440
It's actually so fucking insane to me.

7620
07:02:47,440 --> 07:02:48,240
Holy shit.

7621
07:02:50,320 --> 07:02:53,360
He needs to test out the security to see if it's actually good.

7622
07:02:56,640 --> 07:02:59,040
Oh, maybe after Charlie Kirk died, they had crazy security.

7623
07:03:01,120 --> 07:03:03,440
I'm pretty sure after Charlie Kirk died, I mean, you're almost gone.

7624
07:03:03,440 --> 07:03:04,960
Oh my god, yes, I can't.

7625
07:03:04,960 --> 07:03:08,160
This-- they here said that the months before the event, Twitch told them that it would

7626
07:03:08,160 --> 07:03:12,000
not provide security details for individuals, but that there'd be an opportunity to bring

7627
07:03:12,000 --> 07:03:14,880
your own security if you feel the need or if you feel like you'd need it.

7628
07:03:14,880 --> 07:03:17,360
However, the company seemed to have changed its tune following Charlie Kirk's death,

7629
07:03:17,360 --> 07:03:20,880
as it did provide a security guard for entertainment and politics streamer,

7630
07:03:20,880 --> 07:03:24,480
Caroline Kwan, who received death threats prior to the show over her defensive

7631
07:03:24,480 --> 07:03:26,800
piker during the ludicrous collargate scandal.

7632
07:03:28,480 --> 07:03:29,280
Wow.

7633
07:03:29,280 --> 07:03:32,720
Yep, these articles just fucking make my blood boil, bro.

7634
07:03:32,720 --> 07:03:33,360
Who wrote this?

7635
07:03:34,400 --> 07:03:34,800
Nathan.

7636
07:03:36,480 --> 07:03:38,160
It's Nathan, the Nathan Grayson guy.

7637
07:03:38,160 --> 07:03:38,800
Grayson?

7638
07:03:38,800 --> 07:03:39,600
Guaranteed, yeah.

7639
07:03:39,600 --> 07:03:40,560
Oh, good friend.

7640
07:03:41,760 --> 07:03:42,880
You know him, Dan?

7641
07:03:42,880 --> 07:03:47,200
I feel like the person who did that deep fake stuff with Atriok may have worked with this guy before.

7642
07:03:48,160 --> 07:03:48,480
Huh.

7643
07:04:04,240 --> 07:04:05,120
Who's Shunk?

7644
07:04:05,920 --> 07:04:06,880
Is that a big streamer?

7645
07:04:07,920 --> 07:04:09,200
Shunk, sounds familiar.

7646
07:04:10,560 --> 07:04:12,000
Kwan also noted the big streamer was like Shunk--

7647
07:04:12,000 --> 07:04:13,200
Oh, Sammy Roo's last name.

7648
07:04:13,200 --> 07:04:14,240
Oh, that's him or okay.

7649
07:04:14,880 --> 07:04:17,200
Two months before TwitchCon, Mike from PA.

7650
07:04:17,200 --> 07:04:20,160
A threatened Richie Torres is what I am being told.

7651
07:04:22,160 --> 07:04:22,720
Classic.

7652
07:04:23,760 --> 07:04:25,120
Sounds like Mike from PA.

7653
07:04:25,120 --> 07:04:26,080
I'd have to see the article.

7654
07:04:38,320 --> 07:04:38,880
What are you eating?

7655
07:04:39,760 --> 07:04:40,080
Ice?

7656
07:04:41,760 --> 07:04:44,400
Oh man, that's a fat guy snack right there.

7657
07:04:44,400 --> 07:04:45,840
Yep, Tom with ice.

7658
07:04:45,840 --> 07:04:51,280
They're trauma and the realities of living in a culture in which

7659
07:04:51,920 --> 07:04:54,480
victims are blamed for what happens to them.

7660
07:04:54,480 --> 07:04:58,640
They are held responsible for then dealing with what happened to them.

7661
07:04:58,640 --> 07:05:00,000
Are you open to a call for three minutes?

7662
07:05:00,000 --> 07:05:02,440
- That's sure, you wanna call me on Discord?

7663
07:05:02,440 --> 07:05:03,280
- Oh my god.

7664
07:05:06,920 --> 07:05:07,920
- A lot of trauma and it's processing

7665
07:05:07,920 --> 07:05:08,760
is invisible to most people.

7666
07:05:08,760 --> 07:05:10,680
Obviously she wouldn't be talking about

7667
07:05:10,680 --> 07:05:11,760
that on stream for the past several years,

7668
07:05:11,760 --> 07:05:13,620
but it's still there.

7669
07:05:13,620 --> 07:05:14,460
Yes, mama, let me call.

7670
07:05:14,460 --> 07:05:15,920
Okay, I'm here.

7671
07:05:15,920 --> 07:05:17,000
I am here.

7672
07:05:18,960 --> 07:05:19,960
Do you have any question if this is just opening

7673
07:05:19,960 --> 07:05:20,960
new rooms or he's made his dues?

7674
07:05:20,960 --> 07:05:22,160
Then why don't you hear so much to attack Pokey?

7675
07:05:22,160 --> 07:05:23,000
If this is old news in the past,

7676
07:05:23,000 --> 07:05:24,480
why do they get to respond?

7677
07:05:24,480 --> 07:05:26,640
Well, Will.

7678
07:05:26,640 --> 07:05:27,480
Not gonna lie, I was an audio,

7679
07:05:27,480 --> 07:05:28,840
I thought that was Austin's show.

7680
07:05:28,840 --> 07:05:30,600
Austin usually doesn't ask if he can call.

7681
07:05:30,600 --> 07:05:33,800
He'll just come in here, he'll just call.

7682
07:05:33,800 --> 07:05:34,760
Yo, saw you at Horror Nights,

7683
07:05:34,760 --> 07:05:35,600
but didn't wanna interrupt.

7684
07:05:35,600 --> 07:05:37,500
Shout out, shouts out, hope you had a good time.

7685
07:05:37,500 --> 07:05:39,960
Night, nitrusty man, thank you for this expense.

7686
07:05:39,960 --> 07:05:41,000
Hannah, thank you for the give to Cassie,

7687
07:05:41,000 --> 07:05:42,640
thank you for this seven months.

7688
07:05:44,440 --> 07:05:46,160
- Hello, hi, beautiful.

7689
07:05:46,160 --> 07:05:47,160
- Hi.

7690
07:05:47,160 --> 07:05:48,240
- Can you hear me okay, am I?

7691
07:05:48,240 --> 07:05:50,320
- I can, I can, we have special guest.

7692
07:05:50,320 --> 07:05:51,680
- Oh my god, hi guys.

7693
07:05:51,680 --> 07:05:52,760
- Brooke, AB on stream.

7694
07:05:52,760 --> 07:05:54,920
- No, don't be nervous, please.

7695
07:05:54,920 --> 07:05:58,240
- No, I just, you, I will say,

7696
07:05:58,240 --> 07:06:00,960
and I have to get my props to you and Pokey both.

7697
07:06:00,960 --> 07:06:05,960
Like, without fail, you guys say what you mean

7698
07:06:05,960 --> 07:06:07,640
with your chest, you know you'll get hate.

7699
07:06:07,640 --> 07:06:10,720
Like, that is such a beautiful thing.

7700
07:06:10,720 --> 07:06:11,840
And I'm just, I'm beyond impressed.

7701
07:06:11,840 --> 07:06:14,820
I messaged Pokey earlier 'cause I was like,

7702
07:06:14,820 --> 07:06:16,360
like, you guys are the voices for these,

7703
07:06:16,360 --> 07:06:19,080
a lot of girls, including myself who sometimes are like,

7704
07:06:19,080 --> 07:06:20,080
I've seen you out there.

7705
07:06:20,080 --> 07:06:21,640
- I'm scared to say, I've seen you out there.

7706
07:06:21,640 --> 07:06:22,960
- Let's see you in the trenches.

7707
07:06:22,960 --> 07:06:24,360
- Girl, I went to the trenches and I got scared

7708
07:06:24,360 --> 07:06:25,720
and I went right back in the woods.

7709
07:06:25,720 --> 07:06:28,920
I mean, look, also, y'all, if you are not familiar at all,

7710
07:06:28,920 --> 07:06:29,760
I have talked about this before

7711
07:06:29,760 --> 07:06:30,640
and Brooke has also talked about this,

7712
07:06:30,640 --> 07:06:33,320
but Brooke has been dealing with, honestly,

7713
07:06:33,320 --> 07:06:34,960
some of the worst harassment that I've ever seen

7714
07:06:34,960 --> 07:06:38,400
anyone deal with on this platform and it was years,

7715
07:06:38,400 --> 07:06:41,280
years, I mean, I hope it's gotten somewhat better.

7716
07:06:41,280 --> 07:06:43,480
- Unfortunately, unfortunately, no, not yet,

7717
07:06:43,480 --> 07:06:46,680
but a quick, quick lowdown for anyone.

7718
07:06:46,680 --> 07:06:49,680
I have dealt with like some severe stalkers

7719
07:06:49,680 --> 07:06:50,880
for the last seven years.

7720
07:06:51,920 --> 07:06:53,840
To the point where the FBI was involved,

7721
07:06:53,840 --> 07:06:58,520
they found a discord of multiple, multiple people

7722
07:06:58,520 --> 07:07:00,760
kind of colluding and trying to find things and--

7723
07:07:00,760 --> 07:07:02,280
- Who is this person?

7724
07:07:02,280 --> 07:07:05,240
People were saying in the chat, who is this?

7725
07:07:05,240 --> 07:07:06,440
- Doc saying, and all of these things,

7726
07:07:06,440 --> 07:07:08,000
which is totally, I'm--

7727
07:07:08,000 --> 07:07:08,840
- Brooke A.B.

7728
07:07:08,840 --> 07:07:10,760
- So beyond, you know, whatever.

7729
07:07:10,760 --> 07:07:12,120
- I know that name.

7730
07:07:12,120 --> 07:07:13,040
- But at the time, it was--

7731
07:07:13,040 --> 07:07:13,880
- Do I? Do we?

7732
07:07:15,160 --> 07:07:16,760
- I think she's a streamer.

7733
07:07:16,760 --> 07:07:17,600
- Okay.

7734
07:07:17,600 --> 07:07:22,760
- I land towards my family, towards my home.

7735
07:07:22,760 --> 07:07:24,880
It was like sending pictures of our houses,

7736
07:07:24,880 --> 07:07:25,920
I'm gonna slit your throat.

7737
07:07:25,920 --> 07:07:27,680
They would, yeah, they would find my mom

7738
07:07:27,680 --> 07:07:30,240
and text her, "I'm gonna come kill and rape you."

7739
07:07:30,240 --> 07:07:32,240
Yeah, like just evil, evil things.

7740
07:07:33,600 --> 07:07:36,760
It's been a seven year long, just evil, evil, horrible.

7741
07:07:37,760 --> 07:07:39,260
- Oh.

7742
07:07:39,260 --> 07:07:40,220
Five ads, boys.

7743
07:07:41,280 --> 07:07:42,120
Let's go.

7744
07:07:42,120 --> 07:07:42,960
- Can you leave the sound on?

7745
07:07:42,960 --> 07:07:43,800
- Sure.

7746
07:07:44,720 --> 07:07:45,560
- No.

7747
07:07:45,560 --> 07:07:47,040
- The new domino can.

7748
07:07:47,040 --> 07:07:48,840
Where you take it, that's up to you.

7749
07:07:48,840 --> 07:07:49,680
- Why?

7750
07:07:49,680 --> 07:07:50,520
- Oh.

7751
07:07:50,520 --> 07:07:51,360
- I don't know.

7752
07:07:51,360 --> 07:07:52,200
- I don't know.

7753
07:07:52,200 --> 07:07:53,040
I don't know.

7754
07:07:53,040 --> 07:07:54,040
- But he's gonna, yeah, he's gonna make up for us, right?

7755
07:07:54,040 --> 07:07:54,880
- Yeah, it's everybody's talking about it.

7756
07:07:54,880 --> 07:07:55,720
- Yeah.

7757
07:07:55,720 --> 07:07:56,560
- Now I'd like to keep it off.

7758
07:07:56,560 --> 07:07:57,400
- That's going to the right place.

7759
07:07:57,400 --> 07:07:58,240
- That's going to take the sound right there.

7760
07:07:58,240 --> 07:07:59,080
- I've never heard of it.

7761
07:07:59,080 --> 07:07:59,920
- That's copyrighted.

7762
07:07:59,920 --> 07:08:00,760
- Sorry, guys.

7763
07:08:00,760 --> 07:08:01,600
- Not dieting.

7764
07:08:01,600 --> 07:08:02,440
They've reset the table.

7765
07:08:02,440 --> 07:08:03,760
Some bread, fruit, even pasta.

7766
07:08:03,760 --> 07:08:04,600
- Metabolism.

7767
07:08:04,600 --> 07:08:05,440
- I hate nutrition.

7768
07:08:05,440 --> 07:08:06,280
- To keep the weight.

7769
07:08:06,280 --> 07:08:07,120
- I do too.

7770
07:08:07,120 --> 07:08:07,960
- Whoa.

7771
07:08:07,960 --> 07:08:10,540
(upbeat music)

7772
07:08:15,200 --> 07:08:17,680
- Dude, are you a fucking, are you Garfield?

7773
07:08:17,680 --> 07:08:20,400
Why are you obsessed with fucking lasagna and diet Pepsi?

7774
07:08:20,400 --> 07:08:21,840
Like what the fuck is going on with you?

7775
07:08:21,840 --> 07:08:22,840
Am I missing this?

7776
07:08:24,040 --> 07:08:26,240
- The Garfield like, diet Pepsi.

7777
07:08:26,240 --> 07:08:28,200
- He's mother fucker is like,

7778
07:08:28,200 --> 07:08:29,800
can I have a diet Pepsi peach?

7779
07:08:29,800 --> 07:08:31,320
And he's just like, no, you fucking,

7780
07:08:31,320 --> 07:08:33,280
I'll squeeze your balls.

7781
07:08:33,280 --> 07:08:36,000
And my woman's like, oh, okay, no diet Pepsi.

7782
07:08:36,000 --> 07:08:37,000
What about lasagna?

7783
07:08:37,000 --> 07:08:38,560
And he's just like, on Mondays only.

7784
07:08:38,560 --> 07:08:39,720
Like I swear to God, he's a fucking--

7785
07:08:39,720 --> 07:08:40,560
- No, she didn't even let me have--

7786
07:08:40,560 --> 07:08:41,400
- Not on Mondays.

7787
07:08:41,400 --> 07:08:42,240
- Never.

7788
07:08:42,240 --> 07:08:43,880
- Not on Mondays, never.

7789
07:08:43,880 --> 07:08:44,720
- Okay.

7790
07:08:44,720 --> 07:08:46,000
- Mondays are really hard for him

7791
07:08:46,000 --> 07:08:47,800
'cause he can't have lasagna.

7792
07:08:47,800 --> 07:08:48,640
- Yeah.

7793
07:08:48,640 --> 07:08:51,560
- This is what, I mean, I guess he is cat-like a little bit.

7794
07:08:52,000 --> 07:08:53,720
- Like if he's jealous that I'm a cat.

7795
07:08:53,720 --> 07:08:55,360
- If you gave Moot enough fur,

7796
07:08:55,360 --> 07:08:57,400
he's cat-shaped, for sure.

7797
07:08:57,400 --> 07:08:59,800
And I would even say orange as well.

7798
07:09:01,800 --> 07:09:03,120
- Sometimes at dinner time,

7799
07:09:03,120 --> 07:09:05,840
I tie him to a chair naked and I eat lasagna

7800
07:09:05,840 --> 07:09:09,320
in front of him and just make him watch me like a,

7801
07:09:09,320 --> 07:09:13,180
like a cuck, just a lasagna cuck.

7802
07:09:13,180 --> 07:09:14,020
Yeah.

7803
07:09:14,020 --> 07:09:15,360
- Wow, that's me.

7804
07:09:15,360 --> 07:09:16,200
- He can't have any--

7805
07:09:16,200 --> 07:09:17,680
- Has become horrible thing.

7806
07:09:17,680 --> 07:09:20,720
But, and I feel like this does go along

7807
07:09:20,720 --> 07:09:22,400
with what we're talking about.

7808
07:09:22,400 --> 07:09:24,800
It has become such a, anytime I talk about it,

7809
07:09:24,800 --> 07:09:26,280
the first thing that people say is,

7810
07:09:26,280 --> 07:09:28,160
oh my gosh, you're still talking about this.

7811
07:09:28,160 --> 07:09:29,000
You know?

7812
07:09:29,000 --> 07:09:30,200
- Oh, you're still on this thing?

7813
07:09:30,200 --> 07:09:31,920
Oh God, that's her whole identity.

7814
07:09:31,920 --> 07:09:33,240
- Yes, yes, or they say.

7815
07:09:33,240 --> 07:09:35,480
- Oh my gosh, every time I see you, you're complaining.

7816
07:09:35,480 --> 07:09:37,880
You know, I'm so sorry, like--

7817
07:09:37,880 --> 07:09:39,840
- Why the fuck is this girl even talking to Caroline?

7818
07:09:39,840 --> 07:09:42,680
This girl says, she says she's dealing with groups of men

7819
07:09:42,680 --> 07:09:45,240
that are trying to put together discords or whatever,

7820
07:09:45,240 --> 07:09:47,440
that are doxing her, stalking her,

7821
07:09:47,440 --> 07:09:49,560
sending rapid murder threats to her and her mom.

7822
07:09:49,560 --> 07:09:52,120
What the fuck does this do with the atriarch?

7823
07:09:52,120 --> 07:09:52,960
Hello?

7824
07:09:52,960 --> 07:09:54,280
What?

7825
07:09:54,280 --> 07:09:56,320
- Excuse me, you know, I really prefer for this not to be

7826
07:09:56,320 --> 07:09:58,880
what happens to me on a regular basis,

7827
07:09:58,880 --> 07:10:01,160
but like, I mean, that's the whole thing.

7828
07:10:00,000 --> 07:10:05,200
thing that I was talking about where victims of this kind of harassment and abuse are expected to

7829
07:10:05,200 --> 07:10:11,760
deal with it silently. Who's ever said that about this? Can you please pull up a very important

7830
07:10:11,760 --> 07:10:17,520
article about Caroline while we watch this? She's transforming Twitch into a home for political

7831
07:10:17,520 --> 07:10:24,080
commentary. She's leading the charge. To just allow it to happen to them and to not say anything

7832
07:10:24,080 --> 07:10:26,880
about it. It's never been a woman that said that, you know, it's these men that get uncomfortable with

7833
07:10:26,880 --> 07:10:31,040
it. Where it's like, "Oh my gosh, all you do is complain. We don't want to hear anymore. We get it."

7834
07:10:31,040 --> 07:10:36,640
blah blah blah. You know, where it's like, "Okay, yeah, you're supposed to suffer silently."

7835
07:10:36,640 --> 07:10:40,880
This is like, this is the type of yes lighting shit that happens. Usually it's off-stream when

7836
07:10:40,880 --> 07:10:45,520
they're talking about like, "This is crazy." I mean, I don't believe there are some unhinged

7837
07:10:45,520 --> 07:10:49,280
guys online that are saying this, but in terms of like visible content creator or like people who

7838
07:10:49,280 --> 07:10:53,760
are community head people, who's saying this? There's a reason why they're not going to set

7839
07:10:53,760 --> 07:10:56,020
That's not a single fucking name, but.

7840
07:10:56,020 --> 07:10:58,200
- Meanwhile, it's like, it's not just me.

7841
07:10:58,200 --> 07:10:59,560
And it also affects the men in my family.

7842
07:10:59,560 --> 07:11:01,760
You know, my father, you know, people who live with me,

7843
07:11:01,760 --> 07:11:05,560
it's a really sick, sick thing, which, sorry,

7844
07:11:05,560 --> 07:11:07,060
and that was like, oh, crazy tangent.

7845
07:11:07,060 --> 07:11:08,560
I know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

7846
07:11:08,560 --> 07:11:09,960
it's not related. - It's not related.

7847
07:11:09,960 --> 07:11:13,080
- But you talking about this, it was just a very like,

7848
07:11:14,260 --> 07:11:16,020
the reason I wanna get called is 'cause I don't think

7849
07:11:16,020 --> 07:11:19,120
that people are understanding the kind of impact

7850
07:11:19,120 --> 07:11:20,480
that it's had, it's become,

7851
07:11:21,760 --> 07:11:23,880
especially like, Pokey talked about this, you know,

7852
07:11:23,880 --> 07:11:25,160
and everyone goes straight to the hate train.

7853
07:11:25,160 --> 07:11:27,000
They don't care to think about the effects

7854
07:11:27,000 --> 07:11:28,400
or, you know, anything like that, but.

7855
07:11:28,400 --> 07:11:30,400
- Oh my God. - I wasn't even,

7856
07:11:30,400 --> 07:11:32,360
I mean, I don't remember the exact details,

7857
07:11:32,360 --> 07:11:35,920
but he had specific women up on the side, whatever.

7858
07:11:35,920 --> 07:11:38,000
And then it got reported on, like on the sidebar,

7859
07:11:38,000 --> 07:11:39,880
like here are the other women involved, you know,

7860
07:11:39,880 --> 07:11:40,840
things like that.

7861
07:11:40,840 --> 07:11:44,040
Once that was reported on, it just blew up.

7862
07:11:44,040 --> 07:11:46,960
And it was a non-my mentions were just straight,

7863
07:11:46,960 --> 07:11:48,000
I would just scroll and scroll and scroll

7864
07:11:48,000 --> 07:11:51,440
and it was just deep fake, more of me, you know?

7865
07:11:51,440 --> 07:11:54,200
And that was not anything necessarily new to me.

7866
07:11:54,200 --> 07:11:55,840
I was very aware that that was out there, you know,

7867
07:11:55,840 --> 07:11:58,480
things like that, but it going mainstream was,

7868
07:11:58,480 --> 07:12:02,240
it was definitely different, but I had to,

7869
07:12:02,240 --> 07:12:04,520
it got to the point where people would send it

7870
07:12:04,520 --> 07:12:07,640
to my entire family, my parents, my aunts, my uncles.

7871
07:12:07,640 --> 07:12:09,840
I had to hold a family meeting saying,

7872
07:12:09,840 --> 07:12:13,240
"Hi, you're seeing a video of me getting railed on."

7873
07:12:13,240 --> 07:12:16,040
That's not me, like, you know, just these crazy,

7874
07:12:16,040 --> 07:12:18,440
you know, it's just like, it's embarrassing,

7875
07:12:18,440 --> 07:12:20,760
but it's not even you, and you have to go around

7876
07:12:20,760 --> 07:12:22,420
and tell everyone in your life saying,

7877
07:12:22,420 --> 07:12:24,720
"Hi, when you get a picture of me with my boobs out,"

7878
07:12:24,720 --> 07:12:26,760
you know, or, you know, having sex,

7879
07:12:26,760 --> 07:12:28,320
that's someone putting this on my face, you know?

7880
07:12:28,320 --> 07:12:29,960
And like, to my grandparents, we're old,

7881
07:12:29,960 --> 07:12:30,800
they don't know about you.

7882
07:12:30,800 --> 07:12:31,640
They don't understand.

7883
07:12:31,640 --> 07:12:33,360
And this is possible in their mind, you know?

7884
07:12:33,360 --> 07:12:35,120
This is an aspect of how insidious it is, though.

7885
07:12:35,120 --> 07:12:38,760
Even though the images aren't real, the harm still is.

7886
07:12:38,760 --> 07:12:40,640
Like, there are so many women and girls

7887
07:12:40,640 --> 07:12:42,960
who have suffered severe professional

7888
07:12:42,960 --> 07:12:44,800
and personal consequences, like being turned down

7889
07:12:44,800 --> 07:12:46,160
for a job because of--

7890
07:12:46,160 --> 07:12:47,000
Absolutely.

7891
07:12:47,000 --> 07:12:49,320
I'm sorry, a single example of this happening ever.

7892
07:12:51,760 --> 07:12:53,080
Because somebody deep fakes somebody,

7893
07:12:53,080 --> 07:12:54,880
they got turned down from a job or a far, far job.

7894
07:12:54,880 --> 07:12:56,720
Has this ever happened?

7895
07:12:56,720 --> 07:12:58,480
If you're, well, sure, if you're trying to be a teacher

7896
07:12:58,480 --> 07:13:00,540
or something, it'd probably absolutely happen.

7897
07:13:00,540 --> 07:13:02,280
They got deep faked?

7898
07:13:02,280 --> 07:13:04,200
Yeah, if you Google a fucking teacher's name,

7899
07:13:04,200 --> 07:13:06,640
and it's nothing but, like, videos of her naked,

7900
07:13:06,640 --> 07:13:08,400
yeah, I think, like, they may not say the reason,

7901
07:13:08,400 --> 07:13:09,740
but you'd probably be absolutely--

7902
07:13:09,740 --> 07:13:11,480
I mean, there's not gonna be an absolute--

7903
07:13:11,480 --> 07:13:12,800
That would be an absolute reason

7904
07:13:12,800 --> 07:13:13,640
that they would just do it.

7905
07:13:13,640 --> 07:13:16,640
Who is doing mass deep fakes of their teacher?

7906
07:13:16,640 --> 07:13:18,760
I'm just saying, has there ever been an example?

7907
07:13:18,760 --> 07:13:20,920
Yes, there's probably been examples of someone.

7908
07:13:20,920 --> 07:13:22,380
Name one.

7909
07:13:22,380 --> 07:13:23,220
I don't believe this.

7910
07:13:23,220 --> 07:13:24,060
I don't think so.

7911
07:13:24,060 --> 07:13:25,520
OK, all right, well, then you guys are just--

7912
07:13:25,520 --> 07:13:26,020
Sorry.

7913
07:13:26,020 --> 07:13:27,940
Deep fakes being having to drop out of school

7914
07:13:27,940 --> 07:13:30,520
because male students are using these images

7915
07:13:30,520 --> 07:13:32,480
as a new form of bullying, of harassment.

7916
07:13:32,480 --> 07:13:34,440
It happens constantly, and so--

7917
07:13:34,440 --> 07:13:36,560
And people think that it's an exaggeration, it's not.

7918
07:13:36,560 --> 07:13:38,760
And it's not just happening to us streamers.

7919
07:13:38,760 --> 07:13:41,840
This is happening to every day, to people at work.

7920
07:13:41,840 --> 07:13:45,920
This is a very, unfortunately, not super rare thing

7921
07:13:45,920 --> 07:13:49,920
that's happening where women are being used for these.

7922
07:13:49,920 --> 07:13:53,840
I mean, it's a very sick thing, but the second thing,

7923
07:13:53,840 --> 07:13:57,160
you complain about it, I mean, you're wrong, no matter what.

7924
07:13:57,160 --> 07:13:58,080
Well, here's the thing.

7925
07:13:58,080 --> 07:14:00,760
It's because this is all a part of victim-blaming culture.

7926
07:14:00,760 --> 07:14:03,840
And men do not want their own actions held accountable,

7927
07:14:03,840 --> 07:14:05,200
whether they are directly doing this,

7928
07:14:05,200 --> 07:14:07,240
or they are benefiting from it, or participants.

7929
07:14:07,240 --> 07:14:09,120
The state point of education voted today

7930
07:14:09,120 --> 07:14:11,360
that a girl who posted--

7931
07:14:11,360 --> 07:14:13,440
Jesus, what?

7932
07:14:13,440 --> 07:14:15,640
Chrome almost killed my other computer, Jesus.

7933
07:14:15,640 --> 07:14:16,920
This is how abuse works.

7934
07:14:16,920 --> 07:14:20,720
And these deep fakes are a form of abuse that are--

7935
07:14:20,720 --> 07:14:21,960
it's digital.

7936
07:14:21,960 --> 07:14:23,520
It is tech-enabled abuse.

7937
07:14:23,520 --> 07:14:26,200
And when, even just in this conversation,

7938
07:14:26,200 --> 07:14:28,520
where you have the space, of course,

7939
07:14:28,520 --> 07:14:30,960
like here on my stream, to talk about what you went through,

7940
07:14:30,960 --> 07:14:34,400
that is not the case in a lot of spaces on the internet,

7941
07:14:34,400 --> 07:14:38,320
where just even talking about what you experienced

7942
07:14:38,320 --> 07:14:42,560
as a victim, how many negative consequences and effects

7943
07:14:42,560 --> 07:14:46,760
you had from that is not allowed.

7944
07:14:46,760 --> 07:14:48,240
It's not allowed.

7945
07:14:48,240 --> 07:14:50,520
And this is why I feel for pokey so much in this situation

7946
07:14:50,520 --> 07:14:52,880
is everyone's saying, oh my god, why are you bringing it up

7947
07:14:52,880 --> 07:14:54,120
three years later?

7948
07:14:54,120 --> 07:14:55,240
Well, I mean, that's the same thing.

7949
07:14:55,240 --> 07:14:56,880
Because this is something that happened to me.

7950
07:14:56,880 --> 07:14:57,840
I'm a victim of this.

7951
07:14:57,840 --> 07:15:00,520
I can bring it up whenever the fuck I want.

7952
07:15:00,000 --> 07:15:01,220
- Right, I mean- - Thank you for saying that.

7953
07:15:01,220 --> 07:15:03,320
So like 80 years from now, yes, we know.

7954
07:15:03,320 --> 07:15:06,240
- It's like the statute of limitations on the violent crime

7955
07:15:06,240 --> 07:15:08,040
that is raped and not on something like murder, you know?

7956
07:15:08,040 --> 07:15:09,320
If someone wouldn't say, "Well, why are you still talking

7957
07:15:09,320 --> 07:15:12,280
"about this if you were a victim of a different type

7958
07:15:12,280 --> 07:15:14,320
"of crime that's not sexual abuse?"

7959
07:15:14,320 --> 07:15:16,960
- Yeah, and so like not to be all like trauma dumpy

7960
07:15:16,960 --> 07:15:17,780
or whatever, I'm very open.

7961
07:15:17,780 --> 07:15:20,040
I talk about this quite often along with my stalking.

7962
07:15:20,040 --> 07:15:22,080
I talk a lot about being a woman just in general,

7963
07:15:22,080 --> 07:15:25,200
but I personally have gone through rape before

7964
07:15:25,200 --> 07:15:27,900
and to go through that and then go through something

7965
07:15:27,900 --> 07:15:30,780
like this on top of that is a different level

7966
07:15:30,780 --> 07:15:35,460
of kind of this trauma and this deep, deep sense of violation.

7967
07:15:35,460 --> 07:15:37,660
And people just don't have any sympathy for it

7968
07:15:37,660 --> 07:15:38,780
and they don't care. - Right.

7969
07:15:38,780 --> 07:15:40,180
- I would say people, I think,

7970
07:15:40,180 --> 07:15:41,940
I don't wanna be that person, but a lot of men, you know?

7971
07:15:41,940 --> 07:15:43,740
- It is, yeah. - Is what I witness in my,

7972
07:15:43,740 --> 07:15:45,140
so that's why where, you know,

7973
07:15:45,140 --> 07:15:48,460
someone who wants to outwardly speak on this

7974
07:15:48,460 --> 07:15:52,460
is immediately met with such anger and such, I mean,

7975
07:15:52,460 --> 07:15:54,780
just- - Yeah, betrayal.

7976
07:15:54,780 --> 07:15:57,900
- And things, when she is a victim of what has happened to her

7977
07:15:57,900 --> 07:16:00,540
and that can have any sort of effect on her life

7978
07:16:00,540 --> 07:16:02,820
and for people to sit there and judge or say,

7979
07:16:02,820 --> 07:16:04,020
well, gosh, that was three years ago

7980
07:16:04,020 --> 07:16:05,460
or he's better now or he did this, you know,

7981
07:16:05,460 --> 07:16:07,380
which that's, you know, that's all here nor there,

7982
07:16:07,380 --> 07:16:08,220
that's up to them.

7983
07:16:08,220 --> 07:16:10,300
But like, she is allowed to feel how she feels.

7984
07:16:10,300 --> 07:16:12,580
I think that we're all allowed to feel exactly

7985
07:16:12,580 --> 07:16:13,540
how we want to about the whole-

7986
07:16:13,540 --> 07:16:14,820
- Even if you wanna feel racist.

7987
07:16:14,820 --> 07:16:16,540
- Thing, and it's not easy, I think, she's valid.

7988
07:16:16,540 --> 07:16:18,980
It's not easy to see your friends be around, you know,

7989
07:16:18,980 --> 07:16:20,780
someone that's hurt you, I think that's in any form,

7990
07:16:20,780 --> 07:16:21,620
whether, you know.

7991
07:16:21,620 --> 07:16:23,740
- I think people don't understand that this is

7992
07:16:23,740 --> 07:16:26,220
essentially a massive workplace

7993
07:16:26,220 --> 07:16:27,620
where it's a strange one.

7994
07:16:27,620 --> 07:16:28,940
- Yeah, the whole group is big, right?

7995
07:16:28,940 --> 07:16:29,940
- Like it's the internet.

7996
07:16:29,940 --> 07:16:32,780
Everyone, yes, is an independent individual creator,

7997
07:16:32,780 --> 07:16:35,380
but I think maybe if they were to apply this

7998
07:16:35,380 --> 07:16:39,860
to a more kind of normal everyday type of workplace,

7999
07:16:39,860 --> 07:16:40,780
maybe they would understand-

8000
07:16:40,780 --> 07:16:41,620
- That's like an office, you know?

8001
07:16:41,620 --> 07:16:45,420
- Right, like picture yourself, a big colleague of yours,

8002
07:16:45,420 --> 07:16:47,100
and maybe someone that you were even work friends with,

8003
07:16:47,100 --> 07:16:47,940
not just a colleague, right?

8004
07:16:47,940 --> 07:16:49,820
Like friends with that work did this to you

8005
07:16:49,820 --> 07:16:53,140
and now you have to continue to exist in that space with them.

8006
07:16:53,140 --> 07:16:55,380
And that happens all the time in workplaces.

8007
07:16:55,380 --> 07:16:57,140
- Right, absolutely, yes, yeah.

8008
07:16:57,140 --> 07:16:59,860
I mean, all the time at work, I mean, this is like,

8009
07:16:59,860 --> 07:17:02,460
I think it happens in schools at work.

8010
07:17:02,460 --> 07:17:04,980
I mean, it's like, I think it's a non-stop thing

8011
07:17:04,980 --> 07:17:06,220
for a lot of people since they were young,

8012
07:17:06,220 --> 07:17:08,620
and so it just like kind of as you grow turns into something,

8013
07:17:08,620 --> 07:17:13,020
but I don't know, I just, I, the only reason that I was like,

8014
07:17:13,020 --> 07:17:14,900
talk to me, talk to me, you're just, sorry,

8015
07:17:14,900 --> 07:17:16,620
you might have had other plans.

8016
07:17:16,620 --> 07:17:19,380
But I was just, I get so infuriated

8017
07:17:19,380 --> 07:17:23,620
because I think that sometimes, I think pokey takes

8018
07:17:23,620 --> 07:17:27,100
a big brunt of it for the, for a lot of us, you know?

8019
07:17:27,100 --> 07:17:29,700
Where, you know, she's strong and she can handle it

8020
07:17:29,700 --> 07:17:31,580
and she's used to it, but I should never do this.

8021
07:17:31,580 --> 07:17:33,940
- I can't handle this Steven, please, bro.

8022
07:17:33,940 --> 07:17:35,700
Give me some commentary if you're going to make me

8023
07:17:35,700 --> 07:17:36,540
sit through this.

8024
07:17:36,540 --> 07:17:37,940
- Oh my God. - God damn.

8025
07:17:37,940 --> 07:17:38,980
- Whoa, look who it is.

8026
07:17:38,980 --> 07:17:39,820
- Next.

8027
07:17:39,820 --> 07:17:40,820
- Mafia jinx.

8028
07:17:41,820 --> 07:17:43,340
- Jesus Christ, bro.

8029
07:17:43,340 --> 07:17:44,180
- Hey. - Hey.

8030
07:17:47,580 --> 07:17:51,220
- It's just, I've heard enough.

8031
07:17:51,220 --> 07:17:53,940
He's got to go, man, I've heard enough.

8032
07:17:55,380 --> 07:17:57,380
- Moots the job to do it.

8033
07:17:57,380 --> 07:17:59,860
- It's such a hard thing, but no matter what she says

8034
07:17:59,860 --> 07:18:02,060
or what she does, it will never be enough for people

8035
07:18:02,060 --> 07:18:03,860
and she will always be in the wrong.

8036
07:18:03,860 --> 07:18:05,140
And I think what they're taking out on her

8037
07:18:05,140 --> 07:18:07,460
is what they want to take out on women, you know?

8038
07:18:07,460 --> 07:18:09,780
And we just kind of, I feel bad because I'm like,

8039
07:18:09,780 --> 07:18:11,940
sometimes, you know, me, like I, I didn't my toe out.

8040
07:18:11,940 --> 07:18:14,700
I'm like, let me, you know, I'll say things.

8041
07:18:14,700 --> 07:18:16,820
And then I get scared and I pull back, you know,

8042
07:18:16,820 --> 07:18:18,580
because sometimes I'm like, this is, this is too much.

8043
07:18:18,580 --> 07:18:23,140
- And that's, that is the purpose of the harassing comments,

8044
07:18:23,140 --> 07:18:28,140
the continued hatred and vitriol that is directed

8045
07:18:28,500 --> 07:18:30,660
at female streamers when they speak out about anything

8046
07:18:30,660 --> 07:18:33,180
because the purpose is to silence women.

8047
07:18:33,180 --> 07:18:35,180
It is to keep us from existing publicly,

8048
07:18:35,180 --> 07:18:38,580
also like, existing as a human being

8049
07:18:38,580 --> 07:18:40,700
in any setting, private or public.

8050
07:18:40,700 --> 07:18:42,380
And I think Poki obviously is a lightning rod

8051
07:18:42,380 --> 07:18:44,300
because she has been one of the most prominent

8052
07:18:44,300 --> 07:18:47,500
female streamers for quite a long time and so.

8053
07:18:47,500 --> 07:18:50,260
- Hold on, I just have to do a quick autism check for chat.

8054
07:18:50,260 --> 07:18:51,700
How is it different than fantasizing

8055
07:18:51,700 --> 07:18:53,420
or talking about fantasizing about coworkers?

8056
07:18:53,420 --> 07:18:54,940
I do admit the deep fix being a tangible media

8057
07:18:54,940 --> 07:18:56,020
might be different, but I don't understand

8058
07:18:56,020 --> 07:18:57,180
why this being a message would be,

8059
07:18:57,180 --> 07:19:00,620
just to be clear, if somebody hears you fantasizing

8060
07:19:00,620 --> 07:19:02,580
about fucking a coworker in an office environment,

8061
07:19:02,580 --> 07:19:04,220
your ass is fucking get fired.

8062
07:19:04,220 --> 07:19:05,060
And it probably should be,

8063
07:19:05,060 --> 07:19:07,380
there's some really weird fucking should be talking out loud

8064
07:19:07,380 --> 07:19:09,940
about coworkers to other coworkers about, okay?

8065
07:19:09,940 --> 07:19:10,980
Jesus Christ.

8066
07:19:13,860 --> 07:19:15,980
So a lot of people who are right now

8067
07:19:15,980 --> 07:19:18,740
commenting on this situation aren't even necessarily fans

8068
07:19:18,740 --> 07:19:20,660
of Atrioc who feel the need to defend him.

8069
07:19:20,660 --> 07:19:23,700
Like these are just misogynists on the internet

8070
07:19:23,700 --> 07:19:25,980
who do not miss any and all opportunity

8071
07:19:25,980 --> 07:19:29,820
to conduct a hate campaign against her.

8072
07:19:29,820 --> 07:19:32,780
- My favorite thing is that one of the number one,

8073
07:19:32,780 --> 07:19:34,580
rape culture is an issue,

8074
07:19:34,580 --> 07:19:36,300
probably even still today in the United States

8075
07:19:36,300 --> 07:19:38,780
and worldwide or whatever, to some extent.

8076
07:19:38,780 --> 07:19:41,700
One of the, it's just so funny because like,

8077
07:19:41,700 --> 07:19:42,860
if you wanna talk about rape culture

8078
07:19:42,860 --> 07:19:44,380
and it's like purest form,

8079
07:19:44,380 --> 07:19:46,460
the idea that it's like epic and bass to fuck women,

8080
07:19:46,460 --> 07:19:47,380
right when they turn 18,

8081
07:19:47,380 --> 07:19:48,860
when they're too young to understand what's going on,

8082
07:19:48,860 --> 07:19:50,180
celebrating leaked porn,

8083
07:19:50,180 --> 07:19:53,460
doing a camel toe analysis of minors or whatever,

8084
07:19:53,460 --> 07:19:56,220
all of this shit is what the entire bro tips

8085
07:19:56,220 --> 07:19:57,660
like thing was built on

8086
07:19:57,660 --> 07:19:59,460
and none of these people give a fuck at all about that.

8087
07:19:59,460 --> 07:20:00,300
Like,

8088
07:20:00,000 --> 07:20:03,720
That was a participant in a massive purveyor of rape culture,

8089
07:20:03,720 --> 07:20:05,600
you know, 15 years ago, was like the things

8090
07:20:05,600 --> 07:20:06,440
like the Brotips thing.

8091
07:20:06,440 --> 07:20:08,280
Where's the, we may have a link to the list

8092
07:20:08,280 --> 07:20:10,640
of like, cool things to do in college or whatever,

8093
07:20:10,640 --> 07:20:11,960
and it's like getting a girl so wasted,

8094
07:20:11,960 --> 07:20:13,040
she doesn't know how to say no or whatever.

8095
07:20:13,040 --> 07:20:14,840
Like, it's like, it's just funny that these guys

8096
07:20:14,840 --> 07:20:15,800
don't give a fuck about any of that,

8097
07:20:15,800 --> 07:20:17,440
but I understand it's all team sports at the end of day,

8098
07:20:17,440 --> 07:20:18,720
but.

8099
07:20:18,720 --> 07:20:20,060
- Good memes.

8100
07:20:20,060 --> 07:20:22,040
- Well, yeah, I got it.

8101
07:20:22,040 --> 07:20:23,960
- Camel Toe Analysis, question mark.

8102
07:20:23,960 --> 07:20:25,120
Oh, you don't know about the,

8103
07:20:25,120 --> 07:20:27,160
you don't know about the Camel Toe Analysis?

8104
07:20:29,680 --> 07:20:30,960
- My good friend.

8105
07:20:38,520 --> 07:20:40,280
It's just like looking at girls and,

8106
07:20:42,120 --> 07:20:43,400
what the fuck are you talking about?

8107
07:20:43,400 --> 07:20:45,140
- What is there to analyze?

8108
07:20:46,440 --> 07:20:47,280
- Oh.

8109
07:20:47,280 --> 07:20:48,920
- I'd like to begin the entertainment segment

8110
07:20:48,920 --> 07:20:49,760
by asking you,

8111
07:20:55,000 --> 07:20:57,600
are you trying to analyze how large their pussy is?

8112
07:21:00,680 --> 07:21:02,600
- I'd like to begin the entertainment segment

8113
07:21:02,600 --> 07:21:05,400
by asking you to identify the Camel Toe.

8114
07:21:05,400 --> 07:21:06,240
- It's a different place back then.

8115
07:21:06,240 --> 07:21:07,080
- Oh boy.

8116
07:21:07,080 --> 07:21:09,680
- Okay, so we have obtained a photo

8117
07:21:09,680 --> 07:21:11,160
of a celebrities Camel Toe.

8118
07:21:11,160 --> 07:21:13,640
It is a close-up, so I'm off the kids,

8119
07:21:13,640 --> 07:21:15,720
if they've never seen a giant.

8120
07:21:15,720 --> 07:21:16,560
Let's go in a picture.

8121
07:21:16,560 --> 07:21:17,480
- A giant.

8122
07:21:17,480 --> 07:21:19,080
This is crazy.

8123
07:21:19,080 --> 07:21:19,920
- Yup.

8124
07:21:19,920 --> 07:21:21,120
- You should repot, why don't you put this in a sec?

8125
07:21:21,120 --> 07:21:23,480
- Oh, for the love I guess.

8126
07:21:23,480 --> 07:21:25,000
- Take a while to guess.

8127
07:21:25,000 --> 07:21:27,120
- All right, bring me back to the non-close-up.

8128
07:21:27,120 --> 07:21:28,600
I've had enough with a close-up.

8129
07:21:30,280 --> 07:21:31,160
- Is it a Jewish woman?

8130
07:21:31,160 --> 07:21:32,000
- Interesting.

8131
07:21:32,000 --> 07:21:33,160
Who is that?

8132
07:21:33,160 --> 07:21:34,600
- They were starting early.

8133
07:21:34,600 --> 07:21:36,880
- Okay, okay, I got it all.

8134
07:21:36,880 --> 07:21:38,240
- I don't even know what sex eye is.

8135
07:21:38,240 --> 07:21:39,080
What is that?

8136
07:21:39,080 --> 07:21:39,920
What is?

8137
07:21:39,920 --> 07:21:41,000
- It's like sex hair.

8138
07:21:41,000 --> 07:21:42,320
- Oh, sex hair.

8139
07:21:42,320 --> 07:21:43,640
Okay, I got you.

8140
07:21:43,640 --> 07:21:45,920
Ah, she seems to be a brunette

8141
07:21:45,920 --> 07:21:47,040
from what I can see.

8142
07:21:47,040 --> 07:21:48,440
- Pay attention to the surroundings.

8143
07:21:48,440 --> 07:21:49,280
- She's a friend.

8144
07:21:49,280 --> 07:21:52,720
- Dance studio, she's got wide hips.

8145
07:21:52,720 --> 07:21:54,080
Is she on dancing with this?

8146
07:21:54,080 --> 07:21:55,840
All right, all right.

8147
07:21:55,840 --> 07:21:58,200
She on dancing with the stars.

8148
07:21:58,200 --> 07:21:59,040
- Bruh.

8149
07:21:59,040 --> 07:22:00,360
- I don't know who's on dancing with the stars.

8150
07:22:00,360 --> 07:22:01,920
- Oh, it's right at the tip of your tongue

8151
07:22:01,920 --> 07:22:03,160
and you don't even know it.

8152
07:22:03,160 --> 07:22:04,280
- I know, except I don't know

8153
07:22:04,280 --> 07:22:05,960
who's on dancing with the stars.

8154
07:22:07,320 --> 07:22:09,280
- You have to make a wild guess before.

8155
07:22:10,880 --> 07:22:12,240
- Damn it!

8156
07:22:12,240 --> 07:22:13,480
Damn it!

8157
07:22:13,480 --> 07:22:15,400
I don't know, I'll go get a sandwich already.

8158
07:22:15,400 --> 07:22:17,800
- Okay, Kim Kardashian.

8159
07:22:17,800 --> 07:22:18,640
- Oh!

8160
07:22:18,640 --> 07:22:19,480
- Damn it.

8161
07:22:19,480 --> 07:22:21,880
- Kim, car, Dashin's camel toe.

8162
07:22:21,880 --> 07:22:22,680
- Huh, that interesting.

8163
07:22:22,680 --> 07:22:23,520
Let me check that out.

8164
07:22:23,520 --> 07:22:25,080
- Not only does she have rear,

8165
07:22:25,080 --> 07:22:26,880
she has front butt as well.

8166
07:22:26,880 --> 07:22:28,320
- Oh, of course.

8167
07:22:28,320 --> 07:22:31,160
- She's the one with the wide hips, of course!

8168
07:22:31,160 --> 07:22:34,560
- And she is on this season's dancing with the stars.

8169
07:22:34,560 --> 07:22:36,600
- Bruh, if this was a liberal who did this,

8170
07:22:36,600 --> 07:22:38,680
they would be non-stop talking about this

8171
07:22:38,680 --> 07:22:40,560
for the rest of their life, dude.

8172
07:22:40,560 --> 07:22:42,120
- Oh, yeah, you think?

8173
07:22:42,120 --> 07:22:43,920
- Fuck, did I have the list?

8174
07:22:43,920 --> 07:22:44,760
Does anybody have the--

8175
07:22:44,760 --> 07:22:46,280
- That did that.

8176
07:22:46,280 --> 07:22:47,120
- Oh, fuck.

8177
07:22:47,120 --> 07:22:47,960
- Did we forgive him?

8178
07:22:47,960 --> 07:22:50,120
- The list of the memes of the,

8179
07:22:50,120 --> 07:22:52,280
it was like, I feel like it was like a 10 or 30 tips,

8180
07:22:52,280 --> 07:22:54,200
like a bro tips list or whatever.

8181
07:22:54,200 --> 07:22:56,180
This is over the fapping stuff.

8182
07:22:59,160 --> 07:23:01,640
But, good memes.

8183
07:23:04,320 --> 07:23:05,320
- Fake.

8184
07:23:06,560 --> 07:23:09,500
- If you scroll down, isn't there a lot more?

8185
07:23:09,500 --> 07:23:10,720
No, fuck, damn it.

8186
07:23:13,360 --> 07:23:15,400
- I've seen a lot of these archive tweets at Hessan.

8187
07:23:15,400 --> 07:23:17,080
There's some fucking golden oldies in there,

8188
07:23:17,080 --> 07:23:18,000
I'll tell you what.

8189
07:23:18,000 --> 07:23:19,160
- Yeah?

8190
07:23:19,160 --> 07:23:20,520
- Yeah?

8191
07:23:20,520 --> 07:23:22,600
I feel like Steve, when he's not on stream,

8192
07:23:22,600 --> 07:23:25,240
it's because he's like doing deep research,

8193
07:23:25,240 --> 07:23:26,600
and he doesn't tell me.

8194
07:23:26,600 --> 07:23:27,440
- Oh, what?

8195
07:23:27,440 --> 07:23:28,280
- And he fucking pisses me off.

8196
07:23:28,280 --> 07:23:29,360
- What are you talking about?

8197
07:23:29,360 --> 07:23:30,600
- Like, there's just fucking,

8198
07:23:30,600 --> 07:23:32,160
he's working on the manifest, though.

8199
07:23:32,160 --> 07:23:33,000
- You crazy, Dan.

8200
07:23:33,000 --> 07:23:34,560
- No, he is.

8201
07:23:34,560 --> 07:23:36,560
How does he have this so handy?

8202
07:23:36,560 --> 07:23:39,120
- What, 'cause Arc, her abs are sending me shit.

8203
07:23:40,800 --> 07:23:41,840
My guy on the inside.

8204
07:23:43,160 --> 07:23:45,040
- Bring up, like, oh, she did this, she goes,

8205
07:23:45,040 --> 07:23:46,800
I'm not saying that.

8206
07:23:46,800 --> 07:23:48,840
- Oh, this was the, is this the list?

8207
07:23:48,840 --> 07:23:50,920
Oh, to be fair, I think.

8208
07:23:50,920 --> 07:23:51,800
Oh, yeah.

8209
07:23:51,800 --> 07:23:54,400
30 reasons to hook up with a freshman.

8210
07:23:54,400 --> 07:23:56,280
- Jesus Christ.

8211
07:23:57,880 --> 07:23:58,720
- Oh, bro.

8212
07:23:58,720 --> 07:23:59,760
- Well, what are they, that's on?

8213
07:23:59,760 --> 07:24:01,400
- I was supposed to, no, I don't know if he,

8214
07:24:01,400 --> 07:24:03,040
I don't know if he wrote it,

8215
07:24:03,040 --> 07:24:07,040
or if it was reposted on the Bro Tips page,

8216
07:24:07,040 --> 07:24:08,840
and then he commented on it, I think.

8217
07:24:12,320 --> 07:24:15,320
Somebody can find me his comment on it, but this is,

8218
07:24:17,560 --> 07:24:20,600
I would say this is like the rape culture stuff.

8219
07:24:20,600 --> 07:24:21,640
Wait, he posted it on his Twitter?

8220
07:24:21,640 --> 07:24:24,200
Do you have a, wait, can you show me that?

8221
07:24:24,200 --> 07:24:26,040
Oh, he called it his Bible he might have.

8222
07:24:27,880 --> 07:24:32,880
- I don't think, I don't think he should do that.

8223
07:24:36,320 --> 07:24:39,600
- Has he apologized for this at any point?

8224
07:24:39,600 --> 07:24:41,360
- Why would he apologize for it, it was a joke,

8225
07:24:41,360 --> 07:24:43,520
and it was out of context, and it was satire.

8226
07:24:43,520 --> 07:24:46,000
- If there, if there was ever an allegation

8227
07:24:46,000 --> 07:24:47,240
against Hassan in the future,

8228
07:24:47,240 --> 07:24:49,640
like let's say some credible, credible allegation,

8229
07:24:49,640 --> 07:24:51,440
some woman says that something happened,

8230
07:24:51,440 --> 07:24:53,480
and she's been going to a therapist for years about it,

8231
07:24:53,480 --> 07:24:54,760
et cetera, et cetera.

8232
07:24:54,760 --> 07:24:59,520
- Who do you think the sycophants would react to it?

8233
07:25:00,000 --> 07:25:02,080
I would just call it a lie, like they do everything else, right?

8234
07:25:03,920 --> 07:25:04,720
Or ignore it.

8235
07:25:05,280 --> 07:25:07,840
Does anybody have this tweet referencing this or posting it? Read it for us?

8236
07:25:07,840 --> 07:25:10,800
Well, I don't want to until I see the tweet because I'm not taking Shatter's word for it.

8237
07:25:10,800 --> 07:25:12,880
Somebody needs to show me the initial thing.

8238
07:25:15,440 --> 07:25:17,920
If somebody finds it, then we'll go through it, but it's pretty well.

8239
07:25:17,920 --> 07:25:19,760
- All right, are you looking for this? - Is she some perfect person?

8240
07:25:19,760 --> 07:25:22,560
- Well, that's the perfect victim mythology of-- - Right, yeah.

8241
07:25:24,560 --> 07:25:27,280
- Actually, this person did this, so-- - Right, but who's your favorite streamer?

8242
07:25:27,280 --> 07:25:28,400
Can we go through the logs?

8243
07:25:28,400 --> 07:25:30,640
Like, it's so different when it comes to a woman doing it.

8244
07:25:30,640 --> 07:25:33,280
- My ears are damaged. - Hi, I remember this from eight years ago, actually.

8245
07:25:33,280 --> 07:25:35,600
- I posted it, I think.

8246
07:25:36,320 --> 07:25:37,920
- Who was your favorite streamer, Dan?

8247
07:25:38,480 --> 07:25:39,600
- What, my favorite streamer?

8248
07:25:40,400 --> 07:25:40,800
- For some.

8249
07:25:42,240 --> 07:25:42,960
- Mine's Destiny.

8250
07:25:48,240 --> 07:25:50,480
- Oh, the Bible for our senior year.

8251
07:25:51,600 --> 07:25:53,600
30 reasons to go for freshman chicks.

8252
07:25:56,720 --> 07:25:58,080
One, it's easy.

8253
07:25:58,720 --> 07:26:00,800
Two, she gets herself drunk.

8254
07:26:00,800 --> 07:26:01,760
I'm so wasted.

8255
07:26:01,760 --> 07:26:03,440
- Oh, my God.

8256
07:26:03,440 --> 07:26:04,880
- Three, she hasn't gained any weight yet.

8257
07:26:07,040 --> 07:26:10,160
We worked out six days a week for my state champion volleyball team last year.

8258
07:26:10,160 --> 07:26:13,600
Four, she doesn't have sorority sisters guarding her innocence.

8259
07:26:14,480 --> 07:26:16,160
No, I'm not embarrassed to give you a hand job in public.

8260
07:26:16,160 --> 07:26:16,800
Why would you ask?

8261
07:26:17,440 --> 07:26:20,800
Five, she'll eventually be in a sorority and have numerous hot pledge sisters.

8262
07:26:21,840 --> 07:26:23,680
Six, she doesn't know your reputation.

8263
07:26:23,680 --> 07:26:24,560
So you're a senior?

8264
07:26:24,560 --> 07:26:25,600
Wow, I love older men.

8265
07:26:26,480 --> 07:26:28,640
Seven, you'll be the best sex she's ever had.

8266
07:26:29,600 --> 07:26:34,400
Eight, your fat pledge brother plays wingmen on her morbidly obese suit mate.

8267
07:26:35,360 --> 07:26:36,320
Nine, she-

8268
07:26:36,320 --> 07:26:37,120
- I don't even understand that one.

8269
07:26:38,800 --> 07:26:41,040
- It's having a friend to take a grenade.

8270
07:26:42,000 --> 07:26:43,520
- Oh, sweet mate, sorry.

8271
07:26:43,520 --> 07:26:44,000
- Oh, yeah.

8272
07:26:46,560 --> 07:26:49,280
Nine, she invites you back to her dorm room for a thirism.

8273
07:26:50,000 --> 07:26:53,040
Ten, her graduation present was a pair of perky double D's.

8274
07:26:54,320 --> 07:26:57,360
Eleven, her older brother is in a rival fraternity.

8275
07:26:58,240 --> 07:27:00,960
Twelve, she's the least likely to have gonorrhea.

8276
07:27:01,840 --> 07:27:06,560
Thirteen, her hand job muscles are especially well-tuned at this point in her life.

8277
07:27:08,000 --> 07:27:11,200
Fourteen, she'll have no idea where you live even if you tell her.

8278
07:27:12,240 --> 07:27:14,160
Fifteen, repeat sex is easy.

8279
07:27:14,960 --> 07:27:18,000
Sixteen, her dorm has 24-hour open visitation.

8280
07:27:18,880 --> 07:27:21,840
Seventeen, she doesn't understand how desirable she is yet.

8281
07:27:22,800 --> 07:27:26,880
Eighteen, you don't have to buy her drinks because she's afraid of getting her arrested.

8282
07:27:27,760 --> 07:27:31,680
Nineteen, she gets sexually adventurous drunk before the pregame even ends.

8283
07:27:32,880 --> 07:27:36,400
Twenty, gravity, has affected her breasts to the least.

8284
07:27:37,200 --> 07:27:39,040
Twenty-one, she just turned eighteen.

8285
07:27:39,840 --> 07:27:44,240
Twenty-two, she just got her big sister and you've had sex with everyone else in the family tree.

8286
07:27:45,360 --> 07:27:49,120
Twenty-three, she won't get the Titanic reference when you ask to draw her naked.

8287
07:27:50,320 --> 07:27:53,440
Twenty-four, she doesn't understand how hooking up in college works yet.

8288
07:27:54,240 --> 07:27:55,840
Twenty-five, you'll never have class with her.

8289
07:27:56,640 --> 07:28:00,080
Twenty-six, she isn't a bitter and old, bitter, senior,

8290
07:28:00,080 --> 07:28:04,160
sor- sorostitute who hates the world yet.

8291
07:28:05,040 --> 07:28:08,160
Twenty-seven, she has a natural inclination to blow fraternity guys.

8292
07:28:09,120 --> 07:28:11,840
Twenty-eight, she pays you to move her furniture the next day.

8293
07:28:12,640 --> 07:28:14,000
Twenty-nine, tightness.

8294
07:28:14,880 --> 07:28:16,560
Thirty, it's really fucking easy.

8295
07:28:18,160 --> 07:28:21,120
I understand, have I ever tweeted or had anything you remotely like this?

8296
07:28:21,840 --> 07:28:23,920
Am I fucking past? Holy shit.

8297
07:28:23,920 --> 07:28:24,960
He tweeted this.

8298
07:28:24,960 --> 07:28:28,640
He tweeted it, yeah, and he said the bible for our senior year.

8299
07:28:28,640 --> 07:28:30,080
Thirty reasons to go for a freshman check.

8300
07:28:30,080 --> 07:28:31,040
Yeah, crazy, huh?

8301
07:28:31,040 --> 07:28:32,560
Well, in what year?

8302
07:28:32,560 --> 07:28:33,520
This was out of context.

8303
07:28:33,520 --> 07:28:33,920
Twenty-twelve.

8304
07:28:35,200 --> 07:28:37,120
Okay, has he mentioned it?

8305
07:28:37,120 --> 07:28:39,200
I would apologize for it or anything.

8306
07:28:39,200 --> 07:28:39,360
No.

8307
07:28:40,320 --> 07:28:40,720
No.

8308
07:28:40,720 --> 07:28:41,280
Okay.

8309
07:28:41,280 --> 07:28:43,360
He probably got kind of hacked when he tweeted it.

8310
07:28:43,360 --> 07:28:44,240
He got hacked for that one.

8311
07:28:44,240 --> 07:28:46,160
You understand Hassan Piker's like a pretty common name.

8312
07:28:48,800 --> 07:28:50,400
That's so fucking gross.

8313
07:28:51,040 --> 07:28:51,360
Yeah.

8314
07:28:52,400 --> 07:28:58,320
These men can get away with is absurd to me and it gets swept under the rug immediately.

8315
07:28:58,320 --> 07:29:00,560
Yeah, by people like Caroline Kwan and her friend.

8316
07:29:01,600 --> 07:29:04,160
But meanwhile, a woman does something or says something now.

8317
07:29:04,160 --> 07:29:06,880
And let's talk about eight years ago or let's talk about 10 years ago.

8318
07:29:06,880 --> 07:29:08,240
I mean, it's just…

8319
07:29:08,240 --> 07:29:11,200
If that Emaru thing, by the way, had happened to Pokey,

8320
07:29:11,200 --> 07:29:14,080
these people would have had 12 fucking weeks of struggle sessions on it.

8321
07:29:14,080 --> 07:29:16,480
But because it was Emaru, she made that weak-ass little pussy tweet

8322
07:29:16,480 --> 07:29:17,760
and said fuck all else about it.

8323
07:29:18,880 --> 07:29:20,480
Guaranteed one trillion percent, by the way.

8324
07:29:21,920 --> 07:29:23,280
It's looking for something to be so…

8325
07:29:23,840 --> 07:29:26,960
And the Emaru thing was actually crazy fucked up.

8326
07:29:26,960 --> 07:29:28,480
Did he fake stuff as gross for sure?

8327
07:29:28,480 --> 07:29:31,760
But the Emaru thing was mega fucked up.

8328
07:29:31,760 --> 07:29:33,600
What Janice took about is what it is.

8329
07:29:33,600 --> 07:29:37,200
But I mean, it breaks my heart for her because honestly,

8330
07:29:37,840 --> 07:29:39,840
she has done so much for us girls.

8331
07:29:39,840 --> 07:29:40,960
It was what I wanted to come on here and say.

8332
07:29:40,960 --> 07:29:43,520
It was like she has a bit on the forefront,

8333
07:29:43,520 --> 07:29:46,400
no matter what, knowing that she will get that kind of response.

8334
07:29:46,400 --> 07:29:48,240
And she says it anyways.

8335
07:29:48,240 --> 07:29:50,640
And that to me is so respectable.

8336
07:29:50,640 --> 07:29:51,520
And I feel the same for you.

8337
07:29:52,320 --> 07:29:56,400
I've talked to you before when I get my tone to politics and things like that.

8338
07:29:56,400 --> 07:29:59,280
Where it's like, you can say something knowing it's going to…

8339
07:29:59,280 --> 07:29:59,920
It's going to…

8340
07:30:00,000 --> 07:30:02,680
to give you backlash, but when you know it's right,

8341
07:30:02,680 --> 07:30:03,840
you stand up for what you want.

8342
07:30:03,840 --> 07:30:05,440
And that's what has inspired me over the years.

8343
07:30:05,440 --> 07:30:07,480
And sometimes I do it, sometimes I don't,

8344
07:30:07,480 --> 07:30:11,240
but I feel like you, Pokey, these women who no matter what

8345
07:30:11,240 --> 07:30:13,440
will say what's right, stick up for their beliefs,

8346
07:30:13,440 --> 07:30:15,240
I'm like, that's a really powerful thing.

8347
07:30:15,240 --> 07:30:16,920
And I think that-- - That's queen shit.

8348
07:30:16,920 --> 07:30:18,080
- It shouldn't be swept under the wreck.

8349
07:30:18,080 --> 07:30:20,880
I think you guys are fucking powerhouses, like, actually.

8350
07:30:20,880 --> 07:30:22,320
- Oh, thank you. - You really are.

8351
07:30:22,320 --> 07:30:23,480
You really are. - Well, unfortunately,

8352
07:30:23,480 --> 07:30:28,360
it often falls to the people who are most directly affected

8353
07:30:28,360 --> 07:30:33,960
by this type of gendered or other forms of identity-related

8354
07:30:33,960 --> 07:30:37,120
violence to be the ones to fight back against it.

8355
07:30:37,120 --> 07:30:40,440
So when it comes to misogyny and sexism,

8356
07:30:40,440 --> 07:30:42,760
unfortunately, so often it falls to women,

8357
07:30:42,760 --> 07:30:44,840
to be identifying it and calling it out.

8358
07:30:44,840 --> 07:30:50,480
And the thing is, is that I know that if no one says anything,

8359
07:30:50,480 --> 07:30:52,320
then no one will say anything. - Exactly.

8360
07:30:52,320 --> 07:30:55,120
- And by that, where I understand that, yes,

8361
07:30:55,120 --> 07:30:57,520
if you are one of the few people who is speaking on a matter,

8362
07:30:57,520 --> 07:31:00,400
you're going to get the bulk of the backlash to that.

8363
07:31:00,400 --> 07:31:03,400
But it, hopefully, will start--

8364
07:31:03,400 --> 07:31:06,280
- Unlike pizza, the new dominant.

8365
07:31:12,720 --> 07:31:14,440
- Waiting for payday sucks.

8366
07:31:14,440 --> 07:31:16,880
- Because I can't do anything until that.

8367
07:31:16,880 --> 07:31:18,800
- It's my money. I should have it when I want it.

8368
07:31:18,800 --> 07:31:21,200
- With earnings, access the pay you've already earned

8369
07:31:21,200 --> 07:31:22,680
instead of waiting until payday.

8370
07:31:22,680 --> 07:31:23,880
Here's how to get started. - Oh, you're right.

8371
07:31:23,880 --> 07:31:24,720
- Download earnings. - What?

8372
07:31:24,720 --> 07:31:25,720
- Connect the bank account. - What?

8373
07:31:25,720 --> 07:31:27,720
- I can't support streamers. - You're doing a moon,

8374
07:31:27,720 --> 07:31:29,720
you're doing a moon and suicide speed run today.

8375
07:31:29,720 --> 07:31:30,720
- I can't-- - Oh, what?

8376
07:31:30,720 --> 07:31:31,720
- Yeah. - 39?

8377
07:31:31,720 --> 07:31:34,360
- There's an important streamer. - Jesus Christ.

8378
07:31:34,360 --> 07:31:36,320
- Come on, man. - Jesus.

8379
07:31:36,320 --> 07:31:38,520
- I'd rather watch Daphth and Caroline, I'll say that.

8380
07:31:38,520 --> 07:31:40,680
- That's good. We'll see how I can feel that way for her.

8381
07:31:40,680 --> 07:31:44,400
- Access your payment. - This is an improvement.

8382
07:31:44,400 --> 07:31:47,440
Dan, you agree? - I don't think this about anyone's stream

8383
07:31:47,440 --> 07:31:48,800
forever.

8384
07:31:48,800 --> 07:31:52,840
I think to be in this industry is to sign up

8385
07:31:52,840 --> 07:31:56,680
for psychological torture and nonstop,

8386
07:31:56,680 --> 07:32:02,160
unless you are mindful and try to have your life

8387
07:32:02,160 --> 07:32:04,600
and live your life in a certain way that can balance

8388
07:32:04,600 --> 07:32:09,880
that level of psychological damage and cognitive deficiency

8389
07:32:09,880 --> 07:32:13,000
that you are going to feel as a direct result.

8390
07:32:13,000 --> 07:32:14,160
- Hold on, I'm so sorry.

8391
07:32:14,160 --> 07:32:16,840
I'm not trying to be racist or rule-fiving or whatever,

8392
07:32:16,840 --> 07:32:18,840
but this person-- I feel like this person sounds

8393
07:32:18,840 --> 07:32:20,200
and looks way different than I remember them

8394
07:32:20,200 --> 07:32:21,400
three years or five years ago.

8395
07:32:21,400 --> 07:32:23,920
Am I crazy? Am I mixing her up with another streamer?

8396
07:32:27,600 --> 07:32:29,200
No, yes, no, yes.

8397
07:32:32,800 --> 07:32:34,520
- Also being in this very narcissistic self-centered

8398
07:32:34,520 --> 07:32:38,920
industry-- that's a mouthful, though.

8399
07:32:38,920 --> 07:32:40,120
- Somebody says they looked at me, but they don't sound

8400
07:32:40,120 --> 07:32:42,880
different. Oh, OK.

8401
07:32:42,880 --> 07:32:44,200
- Work-life balance, yeah.

8402
07:32:44,200 --> 07:32:46,080
But the reason why it's so difficult to do that in this

8403
07:32:46,080 --> 07:32:47,720
is because for a lot of people, work in life

8404
07:32:47,720 --> 07:32:49,720
is so interchangeable because of the nature of streaming

8405
07:32:49,720 --> 07:32:53,040
and being an influencer, content creator, social light, in a way.

8406
07:32:53,040 --> 07:32:54,200
- Work-work.

8407
07:32:54,200 --> 07:32:55,200
- Yeah.

8408
07:33:00,000 --> 07:33:01,920
- Money doesn't hurt, you sacrifice your brain for it.

8409
07:33:01,920 --> 07:33:02,920
- Yup.

8410
07:33:08,280 --> 07:33:09,120
- Hey, Zagie.

8411
07:33:14,960 --> 07:33:16,480
- I can give you a really direct example of what I mean by--

8412
07:33:16,480 --> 07:33:17,920
it's not even just streamers that this affects,

8413
07:33:17,920 --> 07:33:19,880
but everybody that's too invested in streamer culture.

8414
07:33:19,880 --> 07:33:21,440
The most attachment you should feel for a streamer,

8415
07:33:21,440 --> 07:33:23,120
I think the healthiest amount, is you just think,

8416
07:33:23,120 --> 07:33:23,920
are they their content?

8417
07:33:23,920 --> 07:33:25,600
And I like their humor and how they present themselves

8418
07:33:25,600 --> 07:33:26,440
on stream.

8419
07:33:26,440 --> 07:33:27,920
And if they're having a happy life with their family

8420
07:33:27,920 --> 07:33:28,800
relationships, good for them.

8421
07:33:28,800 --> 07:33:30,920
But I'm not really overly invested in who their friends--

8422
07:33:30,920 --> 07:33:33,120
what their friends are up to in terms of gossip and drama.

8423
07:33:33,120 --> 07:33:34,760
I'm not trying to see whether or not they

8424
07:33:34,760 --> 07:33:36,560
are upholding a certain passion of expectation

8425
07:33:36,560 --> 07:33:39,440
that I pushed on them.

8426
07:33:39,440 --> 07:33:42,040
Need a certain distance.

8427
07:33:42,040 --> 07:33:43,040
Don't get too obsessed.

8428
07:33:43,040 --> 07:33:44,040
That's the best.

8429
07:33:44,040 --> 07:33:45,720
But it's because of the nature of the work

8430
07:33:45,720 --> 07:33:46,840
that makes streamers seem a lot more accessible

8431
07:33:46,840 --> 07:33:51,160
than, let's say, mainstream traditional celebrities.

8432
07:33:51,160 --> 07:33:52,640
And you can tell when people are very

8433
07:33:52,640 --> 07:33:56,040
into this loser level of streamer culture is when they're saying,

8434
07:33:56,040 --> 07:33:56,640
OK, so let me--

8435
07:33:56,640 --> 07:33:57,640
let me--

8436
07:34:01,520 --> 07:34:03,480
- Backer.

8437
07:34:03,480 --> 07:34:04,320
- This is--

8438
07:34:04,320 --> 07:34:04,800
- Talk.

8439
07:34:04,800 --> 07:34:06,760
- OK, there's like four different lanes.

8440
07:34:06,760 --> 07:34:07,880
OK, there's two different lanes.

8441
07:34:07,880 --> 07:34:08,400
- Yeah.

8442
07:34:08,400 --> 07:34:10,960
- If Brandon asked me what terminal it was, and I saw--

8443
07:34:10,960 --> 07:34:12,560
- Am I crazy?

8444
07:34:12,560 --> 07:34:15,360
Does this sound the same?

8445
07:34:15,360 --> 07:34:17,440
- Sine across the road.

8446
07:34:17,440 --> 07:34:18,040
- I said--

8447
07:34:18,040 --> 07:34:19,040
- Cool plug.

8448
07:34:19,040 --> 07:34:21,000
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

8449
07:34:21,000 --> 07:34:23,000
- I told him, I was sick.

8450
07:34:23,000 --> 07:34:25,160
- Stop laughing.

8451
07:34:25,160 --> 07:34:26,960
- I don't know why.

8452
07:34:26,960 --> 07:34:28,320
- What are you going to do with that?

8453
07:34:28,320 --> 07:34:29,400
- At least I--

8454
07:34:29,400 --> 07:34:30,240
- Is BPT.

8455
07:34:30,240 --> 07:34:31,080
- Whoa!

8456
07:34:31,080 --> 07:34:32,320
My bullet vibrator.

8457
07:34:32,320 --> 07:34:34,040
No.

8458
07:34:34,040 --> 07:34:35,560
- Just getting a flip stick.

8459
07:34:35,560 --> 07:34:36,840
- Flip stick.

8460
07:34:36,840 --> 07:34:40,200
- Maybe I'm just going to start doing the wacky voice.

8461
07:34:40,200 --> 07:34:41,800
I feel like I've heard her headline serious talks.

8462
07:34:41,800 --> 07:34:42,720
- I'm not saying that--

8463
07:34:42,720 --> 07:34:43,080
- Do I know?

8464
07:34:43,080 --> 07:34:43,920
Have I debated this guy?

8465
07:34:43,920 --> 07:34:45,080
Do I know this person?

8466
07:34:45,080 --> 07:34:47,760
You've debated him.

8467
07:34:47,760 --> 07:34:49,120
- Who are they?

8468
07:34:49,120 --> 07:34:51,480
Is that the Palestine guy who had the bookshelves in the back?

8469
07:34:51,480 --> 07:34:52,800
They got really, really, really mad,

8470
07:34:52,800 --> 07:34:54,760
because he hadn't read a single fucking book on it

8471
07:34:54,760 --> 07:34:57,040
after telling me he was a PhD in history?

8472
07:34:57,040 --> 07:34:59,400
Or am I mixing somebody else?

8473
07:35:00,000 --> 07:35:02,560
Nope, I'm gonna run. Wait, why'd you say I've debated this person?

8474
07:35:03,400 --> 07:35:06,640
He just looks like the type you have to accept the humor. Shut the fuck up

8475
07:35:07,520 --> 07:35:12,080
The guy think I've had brown hair in a longer and like a ponytail. I think is that is that is that just me?

8476
07:35:12,080 --> 07:35:15,060
I mean, I don't know. I I I that's why I enjoy your condom. I don't know

8477
07:35:20,120 --> 07:35:24,740
Thanks, but you and a yana not me me me me and K K K. Yeah, Liam Omar

8478
07:35:27,240 --> 07:35:32,480
Let me preface this by saying I think if you were to overly invested and one of your interests and being interests is streamer culture and streamers you are a loser

8479
07:35:34,040 --> 07:35:37,760
Following that statement you can tell that some people are definitely I feel like she speaks differently now, too

8480
07:35:37,760 --> 07:35:43,180
I feel like I'm crazy to overly invested in this kind of entertainment media where they're more entertained with the

8481
07:35:44,160 --> 07:35:49,140
With like the idea of how people socialize in the scene then like the actual content of somebody playing games

8482
07:35:49,140 --> 07:35:53,320
For example, somebody doing travel content for example is because and what I mean about that is you can tell when somebody has the streamer

8483
07:35:53,320 --> 07:35:57,860
Brat of being too into streamer culture is when they're saying things like poking only mad about the state rock situation because she wasn't invited to their wedding

8484
07:35:59,560 --> 07:36:01,560
Oh, that's me. I

8485
07:36:01,560 --> 07:36:06,300
Love the raw - I like other I like other all too afraid of myself. I name that's gotta be that

8486
07:36:06,300 --> 07:36:11,760
I did a is just like the council of Voldemort thing where they all get together and they're like, okay, here's the rules guy

8487
07:36:13,080 --> 07:36:19,760
Well, they don't want to summon you and look she it didn't work. Here. I am. I think the best way for me to I

8488
07:36:20,400 --> 07:36:25,900
Think that you know what that you know what I thought of when I noticed that some people were saying that is some people

8489
07:36:25,900 --> 07:36:28,440
I thought of when I was 12 years old and I was playing on a private maple tree server

8490
07:36:28,440 --> 07:36:32,320
And there was a guild leader who would take my sister to these boss rates that gave her massive XP boost

8491
07:36:32,320 --> 07:36:37,240
And I proceeded to accuse this guy that you only take my sister to these boss rates all the times because you like her I

8492
07:36:38,240 --> 07:36:42,040
Was well, and I was jealous that I wasn't taken to these boss rates

8493
07:36:45,680 --> 07:36:46,680
I

8494
07:36:46,680 --> 07:36:48,680
Mean you probably was it was maple story

8495
07:36:50,680 --> 07:36:54,640
Why don't wait? What am I supposed to take from this? Yeah, I was probably true

8496
07:36:57,120 --> 07:37:01,520
So that's that's kind of what this whole thing that like that kind of attitude reminds me of okay

8497
07:37:09,600 --> 07:37:12,280
Dude, I fucking threw money in the air like box. It was crazy

8498
07:37:13,320 --> 07:37:17,000
You know, I think she's implying that you like pokey. What?

8499
07:37:21,240 --> 07:37:23,240
I

8500
07:37:23,280 --> 07:37:27,480
Don't think that's what she was implying. I think she was implying that you have the mind of a 12 year old. Yeah

8501
07:37:29,240 --> 07:37:31,440
This is why she's a really good litmus test for whether or not people are weird

8502
07:37:41,600 --> 07:37:45,560
Hello, pokey could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and these people defend her trail

8503
07:37:48,520 --> 07:37:50,720
Open our car you want a free block list. Yeah, I do that every now and then

8504
07:37:51,320 --> 07:37:52,800
Then I don't know how you put other price on that coast

8505
07:37:52,800 --> 07:37:57,480
I replied to like two or three and then I proceeded to spend the rest of my day checking out the horror exhibition at the

8506
07:37:57,640 --> 07:38:01,800
Academy Museum and I went beat shopping with my friends so that I could make some keychains and customize keychains

8507
07:38:01,800 --> 07:38:03,640
And then I started making keychains and I go one of them on my back

8508
07:38:03,640 --> 07:38:05,560
And then I went and had dinner with my friends

8509
07:38:05,560 --> 07:38:08,460
And then we went back to crafting some more and then she started telling me about how she really like

8510
07:38:08,460 --> 07:38:11,760
hereditary and explained a lot of the teams in it as we were letting it play on the TV while crafting together and now

8511
07:38:11,760 --> 07:38:14,320
Here I am she just finally went home because she wanted to skip to the rush hour traffic

8512
07:38:15,720 --> 07:38:19,400
That's how I put up with the replies because I have a life

8513
07:38:27,200 --> 07:38:31,120
So I resume my life while we kept typing pretty much there was one point where I was like waiting for my friend

8514
07:38:31,120 --> 07:38:31,920
Do you want to take shit?

8515
07:38:31,920 --> 07:38:34,040
So I went on my phone a little bit and then she finished taking a shit

8516
07:38:34,040 --> 07:38:35,480
We walked through a little bit. I went to take a shit

8517
07:38:35,480 --> 07:38:37,480
I want my phone a little bit and then I continue my day

8518
07:38:37,880 --> 07:38:41,480
The kind of telling me I've literally talked about this before that there are a lot of cultures on the Internet

8519
07:38:41,480 --> 07:38:46,320
So cultures that have stemmed directly as a result of content creators influencers being a new job that introduced this new found level

8520
07:38:46,320 --> 07:38:50,200
Of what used to be tablet gossip what we used to know is tablet gossip and I wouldn't be surprised

8521
07:38:50,200 --> 07:38:51,160
That it's the same audience. I would say yeah

8522
07:38:51,160 --> 07:38:55,760
Why do you care so much about celeb culture or now like again this I do I don't know what this is

8523
07:38:55,760 --> 07:39:02,520
I got a I have to do like a week of streams like this to illustrate the point where you like you just start talking about things that are

8524
07:39:02,520 --> 07:39:07,800
True, but they have absolutely nothing to do with what you're talking about or or if they do have something to do with what you're

8525
07:39:07,800 --> 07:39:11,600
Talking about it's like in the exact opposite way that she's that she's implying like

8526
07:39:12,360 --> 07:39:17,360
The type of weird toxic parasocial streamer culture thing you're talking about like you're describing an average pokey stream

8527
07:39:17,360 --> 07:39:22,000
Like all she talks about I think it seems like is personal stuff that's going on with her and then giggling in music

8528
07:39:22,000 --> 07:39:28,280
And then talking about her fans lives and seeing what they're up to it and then that I mean like is that who she's complaining about or

8529
07:39:30,480 --> 07:39:36,780
Then in turn engaging in snark media and the same kind of easel of culture. Oh snark media. Oh, okay, okay

8530
07:39:37,040 --> 07:39:39,160
That they would make fun of old people for doing that

8531
07:39:39,160 --> 07:39:44,720
They're doing now with online content creators and influencers because all that has become a lot more accessible and a lot more

8532
07:39:44,720 --> 07:39:46,720
I guess unhinged

8533
07:39:50,480 --> 07:39:52,480
It's a we resort sport

8534
07:40:00,000 --> 07:40:05,520
Wait, every picture I look for, hopefully, oh he's looking upwards with his snout.

8535
07:40:05,520 --> 07:40:08,920
I'll show you a little bit of keeping up with the Kardashians.

8536
07:40:08,920 --> 07:40:12,440
You're not entirely wrong with that regard, it's an overall glamourisation of social

8537
07:40:12,440 --> 07:40:15,240
light influencer lifestyle that has gone that people really hook in.

8538
07:40:15,240 --> 07:40:19,600
People like this level of parasocialness, and it's like entertaining slot for a lot of

8539
07:40:19,600 --> 07:40:22,120
them, which is why they get a little overly invested.

8540
07:40:22,120 --> 07:40:23,120
Ew.

8541
07:40:23,120 --> 07:40:29,560
I don't like that, maybe I should make it look up.

8542
07:40:29,560 --> 07:40:32,880
How am I involved in this drama?

8543
07:40:32,880 --> 07:40:36,280
I'm not really at all, I just commented on it, and I feel an obligation to talk about

8544
07:40:36,280 --> 07:40:40,000
it because the only people that are going to talk about it are all of these weirdo fucking

8545
07:40:40,000 --> 07:40:44,160
losers on this side, and then the people that are going to be defensive of Atriak are going

8546
07:40:44,160 --> 07:40:49,040
to be actual weirdo incels in that community who just hate women.

8547
07:40:49,040 --> 07:40:52,240
So I will stand out here and give my take on it.

8548
07:40:52,240 --> 07:40:53,240
That's just business.

8549
07:40:53,240 --> 07:40:54,240
That's just business.

8550
07:40:54,240 --> 07:41:02,280
Really what kind of curse, I have to look upward.

8551
07:41:02,280 --> 07:41:03,280
Like having your little...

8552
07:41:03,280 --> 07:41:05,680
Oh my god, I'm stupid, it's because it's on the party hat.

8553
07:41:05,680 --> 07:41:09,520
Hey, look, I was putting it on the other spot.

8554
07:41:09,520 --> 07:41:10,680
Can I undo all the way?

8555
07:41:10,680 --> 07:41:11,680
I'm back.

8556
07:41:11,680 --> 07:41:13,920
Oh my god, I have to slowly click it.

8557
07:41:13,920 --> 07:41:20,200
I mean, hold on, let me see if I like this.

8558
07:41:20,200 --> 07:41:26,400
Yes.

8559
07:41:26,400 --> 07:41:28,040
How can I say for a ballet tuition?

8560
07:41:28,040 --> 07:41:31,400
Hey, that's better than the stream.

8561
07:41:31,400 --> 07:41:32,400
Hold on.

8562
07:41:32,400 --> 07:41:33,400
What's he doing?

8563
07:41:33,400 --> 07:41:34,400
I don't know how you watch the fucking...

8564
07:41:34,400 --> 07:41:36,200
Oh, he learns to fly, dude.

8565
07:41:36,200 --> 07:41:37,200
Oh, he learns to fly, dude.

8566
07:41:37,200 --> 07:41:38,200
Oh, he learns to fly, dude.

8567
07:41:38,200 --> 07:41:39,200
Oh, he learns to fly, dude.

8568
07:41:39,200 --> 07:41:40,200
Oh, he learns to fly, dude.

8569
07:41:40,200 --> 07:41:41,200
Oh, he learns to fly, dude.

8570
07:41:41,200 --> 07:41:42,200
Fuck him.

8571
07:41:42,200 --> 07:41:43,200
Fuck him.

8572
07:41:43,200 --> 07:41:44,200
Oh, this is going to pay for a ballet.

8573
07:41:44,200 --> 07:41:45,200
Do your best.

8574
07:41:45,200 --> 07:41:46,200
It looks my stream impression.

8575
07:41:46,200 --> 07:41:47,200
You can do it.

8576
07:41:47,200 --> 07:41:48,200
Oh, there's something for a ballet.

8577
07:41:48,200 --> 07:41:49,200
Oh, there's something for a ballet.

8578
07:41:49,200 --> 07:41:52,200
Oh, this is going to have a good day.

8579
07:41:52,200 --> 07:41:53,200
Oh.

8580
07:41:53,200 --> 07:41:57,200
It's like A.L.I. stuff that's happening, like something about a data center.

8581
07:41:57,200 --> 07:41:58,200
Yes.

8582
07:41:58,200 --> 07:42:00,200
I'm about to go.

8583
07:42:00,200 --> 07:42:02,200
There's no way I'm watching an hour of this.

8584
07:42:02,200 --> 07:42:03,200
So, what do you guys do today?

8585
07:42:03,200 --> 07:42:04,200
Oh.

8586
07:42:04,200 --> 07:42:06,200
I'll give you five minutes.

8587
07:42:06,200 --> 07:42:07,200
Oh.

8588
07:42:07,200 --> 07:42:08,200
Oh my god.

8589
07:42:08,200 --> 07:42:09,200
Oh my god.

8590
07:42:09,200 --> 07:42:14,200
If my fight was on my life, I was on the toilet of the museum pooping as I responded to some of the tweets.

8591
07:42:14,200 --> 07:42:15,200
Yes.

8592
07:42:15,200 --> 07:42:16,200
Yeah, I was fighting for my life.

8593
07:42:16,200 --> 07:42:17,200
It's okay.

8594
07:42:17,200 --> 07:42:18,200
Let me do a fucking dance stream.

8595
07:42:18,200 --> 07:42:19,200
I'm doing art.

8596
07:42:19,200 --> 07:42:22,200
So, guys, let's talk about her son.

8597
07:42:22,200 --> 07:42:24,200
Yeah, that's a fucking good ass stream right there.

8598
07:42:24,200 --> 07:42:26,200
Yeah, no, this stream's about to be lit.

8599
07:42:26,200 --> 07:42:27,200
Yeah, hold on.

8600
07:42:27,200 --> 07:42:29,200
Wait, are you are you are you booing up the stream?

8601
07:42:29,200 --> 07:42:30,200
Hold on.

8602
07:42:30,200 --> 07:42:31,200
Guys, these are going crazy today.

8603
07:42:31,200 --> 07:42:32,200
I never use that term by the way.

8604
07:42:32,200 --> 07:42:33,200
I think it's cringe.

8605
07:42:33,200 --> 07:42:35,200
They're going to say everything else to say.

8606
07:42:35,200 --> 07:42:36,200
I don't say that.

8607
07:42:36,200 --> 07:42:37,200
I can read.

8608
07:42:37,200 --> 07:42:55,200
I'm poking deaf for fighting.

8609
07:42:55,200 --> 07:42:57,200
What were they even fighting about?

8610
07:42:57,200 --> 07:43:01,200
I also don't think any of this like that.

8611
07:43:01,200 --> 07:43:03,200
That is truly a demographic that does not matter.

8612
07:43:03,200 --> 07:43:04,200
They do not watch streams.

8613
07:43:04,200 --> 07:43:06,200
They do not buy art.

8614
07:43:06,200 --> 07:43:07,200
Yeah.

8615
07:43:07,200 --> 07:43:10,200
I mean, I don't know what else to do.

8616
07:43:10,200 --> 07:43:12,200
Oh, take a screenshot of her artwork.

8617
07:43:12,200 --> 07:43:13,200
Stop.

8618
07:43:13,200 --> 07:43:16,200
That's stealing stealing people's NFTs.

8619
07:43:16,200 --> 07:43:18,200
That's mine.

8620
07:43:18,200 --> 07:43:19,200
Sure.

8621
07:43:19,200 --> 07:43:20,200
Actually, hold on.

8622
07:43:20,200 --> 07:43:22,200
Got it.

8623
07:43:22,200 --> 07:43:23,200
Hell yeah.

8624
07:43:23,200 --> 07:43:24,200
That's ours.

8625
07:43:24,200 --> 07:43:25,200
Got it.

8626
07:43:25,200 --> 07:43:26,200
That's mine.

8627
07:43:26,200 --> 07:43:27,200
Yoink.

8628
07:43:27,200 --> 07:43:28,200
Put it in the group chat.

8629
07:43:28,200 --> 07:43:29,200
Oh.

8630
07:43:29,200 --> 07:43:30,200
Right.

8631
07:43:30,200 --> 07:43:32,200
I'm throwing that into marriage.

8632
07:43:32,200 --> 07:43:33,200
Oh, hold on.

8633
07:43:33,200 --> 07:43:34,200
That's mine.

8634
07:43:34,200 --> 07:43:35,200
That's a creative work.

8635
07:43:35,200 --> 07:43:36,200
Oh, wonderful.

8636
07:43:36,200 --> 07:43:37,200
Thanks.

8637
07:43:37,200 --> 07:43:38,200
Like.

8638
07:43:38,200 --> 07:43:39,200
Yeah.

8639
07:43:39,200 --> 07:43:41,200
Nobody is surprised.

8640
07:43:41,200 --> 07:43:46,200
I'm going to put a clot and generate some deep fakes with that one.

8641
07:43:46,200 --> 07:43:48,200
You're fucked moat.

8642
07:43:48,200 --> 07:43:49,200
Stop it.

8643
07:43:49,200 --> 07:43:57,200
Oh, that should be an emote actually.

8644
07:43:57,200 --> 07:43:58,200
The face.

8645
07:43:58,200 --> 07:43:59,200
Yeah.

8646
07:43:59,200 --> 07:44:00,200
Big.

8647
07:44:00,200 --> 07:44:02,200
I don't know what it means though.

8648
07:44:02,200 --> 07:44:05,200
Like art that is cool.

8649
07:44:05,200 --> 07:44:06,200
Oh, my God.

8650
07:44:06,200 --> 07:44:08,200
Dude, are you serious?

8651
07:44:08,200 --> 07:44:10,200
I told it just snark me, bro.

8652
07:44:10,200 --> 07:44:11,200
It's over for me now.

8653
07:44:11,200 --> 07:44:12,200
I got five pressure.

8654
07:44:12,200 --> 07:44:20,200
I'm in serious over for me.

8655
07:44:20,200 --> 07:44:21,200
Nothing.

8656
07:44:21,200 --> 07:44:22,200
No.

8657
07:44:22,200 --> 07:44:23,200
It's over.

8658
07:44:23,200 --> 07:44:24,200
I'm going to the gym.

8659
07:44:24,200 --> 07:44:25,200
I'm done.

8660
07:44:25,200 --> 07:44:26,200
Yeah.

8661
07:44:26,200 --> 07:44:27,200
What did he do?

8662
07:44:27,200 --> 07:44:28,200
No.

8663
07:44:28,200 --> 07:44:29,200
Did you actually make it lewd?

8664
07:44:29,200 --> 07:44:31,200
I didn't know it was a child Pokemon.

8665
07:44:31,200 --> 07:44:32,200
Okay.

8666
07:44:32,200 --> 07:44:33,200
I don't know.

8667
07:44:33,200 --> 07:44:34,200
I thought they're all Pokemon are the same.

8668
07:44:34,200 --> 07:44:36,200
I thought they're adults.

8669
07:44:36,200 --> 07:44:38,200
Can you read the warning message?

8670
07:44:38,200 --> 07:44:42,200
When Brock tells you no, that's when you know you fucked up.

8671
07:44:42,200 --> 07:44:43,200
God damn it.

8672
07:44:43,200 --> 07:44:44,200
I told you no.

8673
07:44:44,200 --> 07:44:45,200
No way.

8674
07:44:45,200 --> 07:44:47,200
Did it say stop this Pokemon is underage?

8675
07:44:47,200 --> 07:44:49,200
I just said to give it boobs.

8676
07:44:49,200 --> 07:44:52,200
And it said no, it's underage?

8677
07:44:52,200 --> 07:44:53,200
It said no.

8678
07:44:53,200 --> 07:44:54,200
I'm not doing that.

8679
07:44:54,200 --> 07:44:59,200
Pop Leo is drawn as a baby seal with big round eyes and a toddler body.

8680
07:44:59,200 --> 07:45:00,200
[laughter]

8681
07:45:00,000 --> 07:45:03,160
adding boobs to it isn't a fun edit it's sexual thing occurred it looks like a

8682
07:45:03,160 --> 07:45:09,920
child I'm not generating that I it's a fucking you can that's a toddler body

8683
07:45:09,920 --> 07:45:14,760
I true brother's line and he's in tails come on

8684
07:45:14,760 --> 07:45:34,640
you need to get a real artist to Photoshop boobs I know it's a child what is

8685
07:45:34,640 --> 07:45:41,920
this another one baby seal sorry sorry but I ban just now they're not gonna like

8686
07:45:41,920 --> 07:45:48,960
what I would I have to say though and then their immediate response would be

8687
07:45:48,960 --> 07:45:52,560
it's not that serious it's a joke but that's because they would only say that

8688
07:45:52,560 --> 07:45:55,720
as a response to what I said in the defensive matter they're obsessed with

8689
07:45:55,720 --> 07:46:07,000
streamers she's still texting him that's all it takes who why you so obsessed with

8690
07:46:07,000 --> 07:46:11,680
me oh no I think she did a couple days ago I think I want to say get the itch

8691
07:46:11,680 --> 07:46:20,200
from somebody if they like streamers a little too much levels of performativity

8692
07:46:20,200 --> 07:46:26,480
that previously thought impossible discovered on 39 upstream

8693
07:46:35,460 --> 07:46:57,900
okay it's shaping it's shaping anything goes beyond I like that yep because

8694
07:46:57,900 --> 07:47:00,060
people that are like I like their content they don't fucking know what's

8695
07:47:00,060 --> 07:47:08,820
going on

8696
07:47:11,620 --> 07:47:17,580
they hang out with you know the snark pages of gossip I actually think if you

8697
07:47:17,580 --> 07:47:22,380
regularly participate and read those kind of gossip forums you are mentally ill

8698
07:47:22,380 --> 07:47:27,500
okay you know what she's cooking normal she's cooking engage that much with those

8699
07:47:27,500 --> 07:47:34,900
places it's really really bad I take back every main thing I said actually

8700
07:47:35,180 --> 07:47:39,900
I just I remember coming across the Taylor Swift one and like I don't I don't

8701
07:47:39,900 --> 07:47:43,160
like Taylor Swift either but I'm like these people that go out of their way to

8702
07:47:43,160 --> 07:47:46,340
make fun of every little thing she does to the point where they're like making

8703
07:47:46,340 --> 07:47:49,540
fun of her face true and how she stands where they don't stand like this is

8704
07:47:49,540 --> 07:47:53,740
getting really fucking it would just pop up on the front she is pretty weird you're

8705
07:47:53,740 --> 07:47:57,420
a grown up the Tyler and or Travis and Taylor suburb whatever yeah I got

8706
07:47:57,420 --> 07:48:01,540
bros when I was put in your eyes really bad well yeah that places yeah I haven't

8707
07:48:01,540 --> 07:48:07,540
brows red I'm brows red anymore yeah I can't imagine that you're mental to

8708
07:48:07,540 --> 07:48:12,420
like constantly engage in something that about people you don't like and then

8709
07:48:12,420 --> 07:48:19,340
reading that stuff maybe I'm maybe I just if I'd say you this it was a nothing

8710
07:48:19,340 --> 07:48:25,300
yep he sent it to me at you're a nothing burger well than Dan now there's like

8711
07:48:25,300 --> 07:48:29,180
you hand them out man they're quantum burgers sometimes they're some times

8712
07:48:29,180 --> 07:48:34,760
they're not burgers there is never a burger bro is there something in your

8713
07:48:34,760 --> 07:48:38,980
bird like an audio professional oh yeah can't agree on what toppings to order

8714
07:48:38,980 --> 07:48:44,260
grab the new domino because it's made for one so every domino I just got that

8715
07:48:44,260 --> 07:48:51,440
that's it it's a domino domino I want to get

8716
07:48:51,440 --> 07:48:55,660
Domino's new meds everybody's talking about oh let's a guy to keep it off while

8717
07:48:55,660 --> 07:48:59,680
you come to the right place I'm never going back on a diet happens today is not

8718
07:48:59,680 --> 07:49:04,740
dieting we set the tables and bread some pack ribs metabolism nutrition we're

8719
07:49:04,740 --> 07:49:07,380
busy I've got a side I just go we're trying to find out the guy who scammed

8720
07:49:07,380 --> 07:49:10,340
him who charged her back or whatever all right that's what we're doing for

8721
07:49:10,340 --> 07:49:16,340
DSP you know record is pretty aggressive

8722
07:49:21,380 --> 07:49:28,980
national so anyways you guys tell me if it is getting too kooky so as I said yes

8723
07:49:28,980 --> 07:49:33,740
what would you say no no no we're fine right I'm gonna have someone look at the

8724
07:49:33,740 --> 07:49:37,260
audio soon and hopefully that it'll be all right oh my god she's snarking me

8725
07:49:37,260 --> 07:49:42,380
like it's just an interference issue of some sort I'm getting started not hold

8726
07:49:42,380 --> 07:49:44,500
on

8727
07:49:45,260 --> 07:49:50,260
I'm so hard not to touch my damn mic so I think I will up the mic to ten how's

8728
07:49:50,260 --> 07:49:55,820
this I feel like this is probably this is perfect right I see it going into the

8729
07:49:55,820 --> 07:50:01,780
green yellow which I think is a good place to be perfect

8730
07:50:00,000 --> 07:50:04,220
The reason my mic was so much lower was because I was having this buzzing issue

8731
07:50:04,540 --> 07:50:11,400
So I didn't want the buzzing to be louder, but now that we mostly fix that. I think it's good to have it

8732
07:50:13,480 --> 07:50:16,480
Do you hear that yes, she's yeah, she's keeping us away

8733
07:50:17,240 --> 07:50:22,760
Turn it off. There's a wine. I don't know what that is. It's not 50 Hertz, but there's a wine somewhere and something is fucked up

8734
07:50:22,760 --> 07:50:26,240
But I don't even know this is but it's not a it's not a ground loop. Um, it's a cable

8735
07:50:27,720 --> 07:50:34,240
It's really is it 15 maybe it's a or 60 is what it is in America. Hold on

8736
07:50:38,680 --> 07:50:40,680
Is it

8737
07:50:42,040 --> 07:50:44,040
Stop I'm right here

8738
07:50:48,680 --> 07:50:52,940
No, it's not it's some I don't even know what frequency I don't know why something is going on with that

8739
07:50:58,160 --> 07:51:00,160
120 no

8740
07:51:04,640 --> 07:51:06,640
Show me 120

8741
07:51:11,040 --> 07:51:13,360
It's absolutely no, it's not 120 at all

8742
07:51:14,120 --> 07:51:16,520
120 just be the octave fuck you so

8743
07:51:17,640 --> 07:51:22,220
No way the buzzing is bad. That's okay. Okay. No, no, no, we're fine, right?

8744
07:51:22,800 --> 07:51:26,800
I'm gonna have someone look at the audio soon and hopefully then it'll be all right

8745
07:51:26,800 --> 07:51:30,920
I do think it's just an interference issue of some sort, but I'm not an audio professional

8746
07:51:30,920 --> 07:51:35,080
So anyways, you guys tell me if it is getting you can hit her up. You can help

8747
07:51:35,080 --> 07:51:38,480
I said yesterday I shared some feelings on my stream people had a lot to say about it

8748
07:51:38,480 --> 07:51:42,080
And to be honest, you know, of course people always have their opinions their entitled to their opinions

8749
07:51:42,080 --> 07:51:46,760
I think for me the only thing that bothered me was again seeing some misinformation about what happened

8750
07:51:46,760 --> 07:51:53,440
So I just want to clarify true get this a track fucker hell. Yeah, the tweet that I wrote basically said

8751
07:51:54,560 --> 07:51:58,840
Hi, everyone. I want to clarify some things about what I said on string yesterday and the person that I was talking about I

8752
07:51:59,880 --> 07:52:04,000
Said when he was first caught looking at paywall deep fake content of female streamers

8753
07:52:04,000 --> 07:52:09,880
I noticed that I think people forgot or didn't know that the specific page shown on his stream was of me

8754
07:52:09,880 --> 07:52:11,880
I didn't say anything at the time

8755
07:52:19,200 --> 07:52:21,700
Three two one

8756
07:52:24,560 --> 07:52:26,560
No, it's not this it's a different

8757
07:52:28,560 --> 07:52:35,240
Well, I'm pretty sure it all was very humiliating and I just didn't think it needed explaining because obviously everybody could tell it was wrong

8758
07:52:35,240 --> 07:52:39,400
Right. Um, yes, sorry one sec. I also want to clarify this because I

8759
07:52:40,120 --> 07:52:42,120
Respond to this later. Oh

8760
07:52:45,080 --> 07:52:47,080
So yes

8761
07:52:48,440 --> 07:52:52,720
Per sexist I look at 45 because I sound say 45, but it's not 45

8762
07:52:54,560 --> 07:52:56,560
Why you dude?

8763
07:52:57,440 --> 07:52:59,440
Why do you have a two-hour video of this?

8764
07:53:06,120 --> 07:53:08,120
Oh no

8765
07:53:08,120 --> 07:53:14,680
About Atrioc who in 2023. No, I think that is it no was caught on stream having a website open

8766
07:53:15,200 --> 07:53:17,920
What's the name of that? What's that stupid fucking sound game or whatever?

8767
07:53:22,480 --> 07:53:26,720
Keep exploring what are some unique fun of incident collect will shut the fuck up. I don't know so many shit

8768
07:53:27,520 --> 07:53:29,520
dialed.gg

8769
07:53:30,640 --> 07:53:32,640
I feel left out good

8770
07:53:34,840 --> 07:53:36,840
Stop no

8771
07:53:42,080 --> 07:53:44,080
Well, it's only do a thing

8772
07:53:52,480 --> 07:53:54,600
To pay for access to the pay content

8773
07:54:07,600 --> 07:54:14,040
Is it this sounds like a transmission that galore would send it's a 1200 man a

8774
07:54:15,600 --> 07:54:17,600
Female streamers, it's like

8775
07:54:18,480 --> 07:54:21,340
I eat the beep in the background is fucking I'm gonna kill myself

8776
07:54:22,480 --> 07:54:26,080
It's all day. I don't know what's beeping. I hold on I have to go under my balcony. I need to hear that

8777
07:54:26,080 --> 07:54:27,520
I actually need to hear what this is beeping outside

8778
07:54:27,520 --> 07:54:33,400
I don't know what this is cuz I have a 3.5 scope. I'm pretty sure 556 is ready for like a thousand yards or whatever it is

8779
07:54:33,400 --> 07:54:34,920
video game

8780
07:54:34,920 --> 07:54:36,920
Can I get your cameras?

8781
07:54:38,080 --> 07:54:40,080
Can I get some road head

8782
07:54:41,420 --> 07:54:45,460
Aristotle on on to my can I get some papal turtle on my way to home

8783
07:54:46,360 --> 07:54:50,760
What do you want to use log on to Minecraft so that I can use your little ping to guide myself on

8784
07:54:52,480 --> 07:54:54,480
Busy right now

8785
07:54:58,160 --> 07:55:00,160
Who's coming to this

8786
07:55:00,000 --> 07:55:03,600
That's the CG thing, San Antonio, huh?

8787
07:55:03,600 --> 07:55:04,600
How about that?

8788
07:55:04,600 --> 07:55:05,960
Is that the dunk tank one?

8789
07:55:05,960 --> 07:55:06,800
Is it dunk tank one?

8790
07:55:06,800 --> 07:55:08,680
- Dunk tank isn't San Antonio, yeah.

8791
07:55:08,680 --> 07:55:10,960
- Oh shit, how about that?

8792
07:55:10,960 --> 07:55:14,280
- You're coming to a good one, man, I'm telling you.

8793
07:55:14,280 --> 07:55:17,860
You're gonna be able to see Steve get dunked by a tank.

8794
07:55:21,200 --> 07:55:22,440
- That's pretty exciting.

8795
07:55:22,440 --> 07:55:23,640
Yeah, I heard the-- - It's sexy.

8796
07:55:23,640 --> 07:55:26,080
- I heard that Dan Saltman is gonna be there

8797
07:55:26,080 --> 07:55:27,840
with Mr. Mooten and Destiny.

8798
07:55:29,720 --> 07:55:33,000
I am gonna be there on October 31st and November 1st.

8799
07:55:33,000 --> 07:55:35,640
Dan's gonna be there, Steve's gonna be there.

8800
07:55:35,640 --> 07:55:38,760
Iri's gonna be there, a dunk tank's gonna be there.

8801
07:55:38,760 --> 07:55:41,520
- It sounds like you can solve the liberal problem.

8802
07:55:41,520 --> 07:55:42,360
(laughs)

8803
07:55:42,360 --> 07:55:46,600
- The final solution for the liberal question, holy shit.

8804
07:55:46,600 --> 07:55:48,320
- Hey, if someone starts stabbing or shooting,

8805
07:55:48,320 --> 07:55:51,480
I'm jumping behind Dan, that's shrimple has.

8806
07:55:52,480 --> 07:55:53,320
- I'm true.

8807
07:55:53,320 --> 07:55:54,880
- I'm too young to die, Dan.

8808
07:55:57,360 --> 07:56:00,680
- Dude, someone today, Sam lying about my age.

8809
07:56:00,680 --> 07:56:03,840
It's actually very, like his son is actually--

8810
07:56:03,840 --> 07:56:04,840
- He's sad of them.

8811
07:56:04,840 --> 07:56:06,680
- I'm younger than Hutch.

8812
07:56:06,680 --> 07:56:07,520
- Dan's 45.

8813
07:56:07,520 --> 07:56:09,320
- I don't know who Hutch is.

8814
07:56:09,320 --> 07:56:11,000
- No, I'm not.

8815
07:56:11,000 --> 07:56:12,560
- No, you're not what, I can't.

8816
07:56:12,560 --> 07:56:14,200
- 45.

8817
07:56:14,200 --> 07:56:15,040
- How old are you?

8818
07:56:15,040 --> 07:56:15,880
Are you 50?

8819
07:56:15,880 --> 07:56:16,720
You're not 50.

8820
07:56:16,720 --> 07:56:17,560
- I hope he is.

8821
07:56:17,560 --> 07:56:19,440
- I hope he is.

8822
07:56:19,440 --> 07:56:20,280
- How old are you?

8823
07:56:20,280 --> 07:56:21,120
- Three years ago.

8824
07:56:21,120 --> 07:56:24,040
- Dan, I don't wanna say no, Steve is like a music man.

8825
07:56:24,040 --> 07:56:26,160
- But the specific page that was leaked or like shown

8826
07:56:26,160 --> 07:56:27,680
in his stream had photos of me,

8827
07:56:27,680 --> 07:56:30,640
and the photos were AI and were digitally altered

8828
07:56:30,640 --> 07:56:32,960
to make just to be very inappropriate.

8829
07:56:32,960 --> 07:56:35,200
Okay, I will get into that later.

8830
07:56:35,200 --> 07:56:38,440
So, I didn't say much at the time

8831
07:56:38,440 --> 07:56:40,000
'cause honestly people already talking about it.

8832
07:56:40,000 --> 07:56:41,440
I was like, I didn't really feel like there was much

8833
07:56:41,440 --> 07:56:43,560
to clarify on my end order.

8834
07:56:43,560 --> 07:56:46,280
Dude, people keep bringing up that he spent thousands

8835
07:56:46,280 --> 07:56:48,000
of dollars helping remove AI.

8836
07:56:48,000 --> 07:56:51,000
Some people say like tens, 50, $100,000,

8837
07:56:51,000 --> 07:56:53,920
$3,000 was offered to me specifically

8838
07:56:53,920 --> 07:56:55,960
to help me remove content.

8839
07:56:55,960 --> 07:56:59,400
It was inappropriate content, but just to be clear.

8840
07:56:59,400 --> 07:57:01,000
- But she's about to say, just to be clear though,

8841
07:57:01,000 --> 07:57:03,120
it's not about the money, but I definitely had to bring up

8842
07:57:03,120 --> 07:57:04,560
the exact dollar amount that was offered.

8843
07:57:04,560 --> 07:57:06,080
(laughs)

8844
07:57:06,080 --> 07:57:09,000
- I've spent two, three hundred, $100,000

8845
07:57:09,000 --> 07:57:10,440
towards that same effort.

8846
07:57:10,440 --> 07:57:12,160
- Bullshit, there was just no shot.

8847
07:57:12,160 --> 07:57:13,000
- I don't believe it's there now.

8848
07:57:13,000 --> 07:57:14,840
- There's no world, there's no world, that's true.

8849
07:57:14,840 --> 07:57:15,920
I'm sorry.

8850
07:57:15,920 --> 07:57:16,760
- No.

8851
07:57:16,760 --> 07:57:18,120
- And ultimately none of this is about money.

8852
07:57:18,120 --> 07:57:18,960
I didn't bring up money.

8853
07:57:18,960 --> 07:57:21,040
- Towards that effort, towards that effort,

8854
07:57:21,040 --> 07:57:21,880
what do you think that means?

8855
07:57:21,880 --> 07:57:25,160
- My guess is in the totality of her representation

8856
07:57:25,160 --> 07:57:28,720
of all the fees that she's paid to her agency.

8857
07:57:28,720 --> 07:57:30,160
- For all the answers and everything.

8858
07:57:30,160 --> 07:57:32,680
- For everything, yeah, yeah, maybe.

8859
07:57:34,600 --> 07:57:37,120
- No amount of money is going to undo what happened, right?

8860
07:57:38,320 --> 07:57:41,440
And lastly, I'm not trying to cancel anyone.

8861
07:57:41,440 --> 07:57:42,960
I'm not here to say who can do what.

8862
07:57:42,960 --> 07:57:44,520
That's just not my place.

8863
07:57:44,520 --> 07:57:45,600
I just wanted to share my feelings

8864
07:57:45,600 --> 07:57:47,840
about something that publicly happened to me.

8865
07:57:47,840 --> 07:57:49,640
I didn't share my feelings about things

8866
07:57:49,640 --> 07:57:51,600
that are happening publicly, things that I'm seeing publicly.

8867
07:57:51,600 --> 07:57:52,760
And just the ways that it affects me.

8868
07:57:52,760 --> 07:57:54,720
Because to be honest, I've been feeling

8869
07:57:54,720 --> 07:57:57,440
like the alternative is kind of feeling silenced.

8870
07:57:57,440 --> 07:58:01,320
Like if things can happen to you

8871
07:58:01,320 --> 07:58:02,680
and you can't even talk about how they make you feel,

8872
07:58:02,680 --> 07:58:04,000
it just kind of makes you feel like you just have to,

8873
07:58:04,000 --> 07:58:05,400
oh, deal with it, right?

8874
07:58:05,400 --> 07:58:06,840
- Like, again, nobody is talking about this.

8875
07:58:06,840 --> 07:58:07,680
You can talk about it.

8876
07:58:07,680 --> 07:58:09,320
There's industry going online and broadcasting it.

8877
07:58:09,320 --> 07:58:10,600
Like, I don't understand why,

8878
07:58:10,600 --> 07:58:12,640
what it is about the streamer brain

8879
07:58:12,640 --> 07:58:14,320
that just like mind fucks their ability

8880
07:58:14,320 --> 07:58:15,240
to engage with reality.

8881
07:58:15,240 --> 07:58:16,880
But like, you're allowed to have conversations

8882
07:58:16,880 --> 07:58:18,080
with people and talk about your feelings

8883
07:58:18,080 --> 07:58:19,240
and do all of this, that's fine.

8884
07:58:19,240 --> 07:58:20,560
There's a big difference between that

8885
07:58:20,560 --> 07:58:22,720
and broadcasting it to the entire internet.

8886
07:58:24,320 --> 07:58:28,000
Like, I don't know how like, it's just so stupid

8887
07:58:28,000 --> 07:58:30,800
to not to pretend to play dumb and to not understand this.

8888
07:58:30,800 --> 07:58:31,880
It's so infuriating.

8889
07:58:33,240 --> 07:58:35,400
Like, like saying like, oh, well,

8890
07:58:35,400 --> 07:58:36,800
I'm just sharing my feelings.

8891
07:58:36,800 --> 07:58:37,840
Like, I don't really care.

8892
07:58:37,840 --> 07:58:39,080
I don't mean to hurt anybody else.

8893
07:58:39,080 --> 07:58:41,240
That would be the equivalent of me downloading

8894
07:58:41,240 --> 07:58:42,480
deep fake pornography of somebody,

8895
07:58:42,480 --> 07:58:43,920
jerking off to it, leaking online and going,

8896
07:58:43,920 --> 07:58:45,160
oh, I didn't mean for that to bother you.

8897
07:58:45,160 --> 07:58:46,080
That was just for me.

8898
07:58:46,080 --> 07:58:47,200
Like, that has nothing to do with you.

8899
07:58:47,200 --> 07:58:48,040
Don't take offense to that.

8900
07:58:48,040 --> 07:58:50,320
Like, this is like such a stupid fucking thing to say.

8901
07:58:50,320 --> 07:58:52,200
I don't know how they can get away with playing

8902
07:58:52,200 --> 07:58:54,400
like an actual retarded child with a statement.

8903
07:58:54,400 --> 07:58:55,840
It's the dumbest possible thing you can say.

8904
07:58:55,840 --> 07:58:58,240
I just don't, it's so annoying.

8905
07:58:58,240 --> 07:58:59,080
- So I think at the very least,

8906
07:58:59,080 --> 07:58:59,920
if everyone can know what they want,

8907
07:58:59,920 --> 07:59:02,280
I can at least talk about my feelings, I hope.

8908
07:59:02,280 --> 07:59:04,200
- Anyways, as he's become more involved in events

8909
07:59:04,200 --> 07:59:05,880
and with people close to me,

8910
07:59:05,880 --> 07:59:07,520
it's just slowly made me more uncomfortable.

8911
07:59:07,520 --> 07:59:09,160
This has been numerous instances, little things.

8912
07:59:09,160 --> 07:59:10,200
And as I mentioned yesterday, you know,

8913
07:59:10,200 --> 07:59:11,520
I've tried to kind of just swallow it, deal with it,

8914
07:59:11,520 --> 07:59:13,800
whatever, but at some point, again,

8915
07:59:13,800 --> 07:59:15,920
like I felt a little bit silenced or--

8916
07:59:15,920 --> 07:59:17,840
- How, who, how, where?

8917
07:59:17,840 --> 07:59:19,120
- I just wanted to get it off my chest.

8918
07:59:19,120 --> 07:59:21,040
- Yeah, you were mad 'cause you saw the guy

8919
07:59:21,040 --> 07:59:22,560
and he's, I guess, being successful.

8920
07:59:22,560 --> 07:59:24,280
And again, I don't even think it was about him.

8921
07:59:24,280 --> 07:59:25,320
I think it was about the,

8922
07:59:25,320 --> 07:59:26,800
I think it was about the statement that he made

8923
07:59:26,800 --> 07:59:28,440
about her friends being late to the wedding

8924
07:59:28,440 --> 07:59:29,680
and then her not going to that wedding.

8925
07:59:29,680 --> 07:59:31,760
I think just culminated in her just taking shots at him.

8926
07:59:31,760 --> 07:59:34,720
I think that was the reason why 100%.

8927
07:59:34,720 --> 07:59:36,160
- Other people, oh, I also want to say,

8928
07:59:36,160 --> 07:59:37,480
as far as I know, no one has really checked in

8929
07:59:37,480 --> 07:59:39,000
with the women affected about how it makes them feel.

8930
07:59:39,000 --> 07:59:42,400
- She is so smart, she's smart with that weasel phrase there.

8931
07:59:42,400 --> 07:59:45,520
As far as I know, did you ask?

8932
07:59:45,520 --> 07:59:46,800
'Cause that would be a pretty fucking insane thing

8933
07:59:46,800 --> 07:59:49,000
to say publicly without even asking anybody.

8934
07:59:49,000 --> 07:59:50,440
But she gives her, she carves the out there

8935
07:59:50,440 --> 07:59:52,280
by saying, as far as I know,

8936
07:59:52,280 --> 07:59:55,320
and the translation about it, she hasn't talked to any of them.

8937
07:59:55,320 --> 07:59:57,560
- At least me personally, no one has asked me a damn thing.

8938
07:59:57,560 --> 07:59:59,640
If anything, I've had to go out of my way.

8939
07:59:59,640 --> 08:00:00,480
Three.

8940
08:00:00,000 --> 08:00:11,820
four times to make it clear that I am uncomfortable with this person oh that

8941
08:00:11,820 --> 08:00:15,180
might have been why she didn't go to pokie or QD wedding what do you mean by

8942
08:00:15,180 --> 08:00:21,060
that it sounds like she or no no I mean like what what does she mean by that yeah

8943
08:00:21,060 --> 08:00:24,060
no I agree it sounds like she's she's been trying to a black ball

8944
08:00:24,060 --> 08:00:31,020
matriarch from spaces or maybe has other people forgiving him is their choice

8945
08:00:31,020 --> 08:00:34,500
but I don't think that it means that I can't share my perspective at all no

8946
08:00:34,500 --> 08:00:40,060
nobody has ever asked me if I'm comfortable or not with anything

8947
08:00:40,060 --> 08:00:46,360
anyways above all else one thing that I've seen happen a lot especially online

8948
08:00:46,360 --> 08:00:48,780
is like this rewriting of history there's like such a telephone game online and

8949
08:00:48,780 --> 08:00:50,660
people can say things and it's incorrect but if it gets enough likes

8950
08:00:50,660 --> 08:00:53,960
people believe it right and especially that pertains to like really delicate

8951
08:00:53,960 --> 08:00:56,880
and important issues like these I just think it's important to at least set

8952
08:00:56,880 --> 08:01:00,200
the record straight and let people make their own decisions oh my god set the

8953
08:01:00,200 --> 08:01:03,440
record straight and let people make their own decisions anybody have the

8954
08:01:03,440 --> 08:01:06,200
n-word clips because I think people also need to be aware of that okay just in

8955
08:01:06,200 --> 08:01:08,840
case any black content creators are thinking about collaborating with her I

8956
08:01:08,840 --> 08:01:13,320
think you need to understand who you're collaborating with okay just saying so

8957
08:01:13,320 --> 08:01:17,480
just prefer to stand my ground so the narrative doesn't get twisted and I hope

8958
08:01:17,480 --> 08:01:26,480
that this clarifies things right and then because there were so many people that

8959
08:01:26,480 --> 08:01:33,280
were very intent on kind of rewriting the narrative or saying that I'm lying or

8960
08:01:33,280 --> 08:01:38,440
some people just not remembering the details it started to make me feel a

8961
08:01:38,440 --> 08:01:43,000
little gaslit so much so that I'm like oh my god therapy speak was a mistake

8962
08:01:43,000 --> 08:01:46,560
this this is a legitimate red flag if you hear a white woman talking like this

8963
08:01:46,560 --> 08:01:50,280
don't you stay the as far away from them as possible this is not just white

8964
08:01:50,280 --> 08:02:00,960
woman yeah also envy boys e-boys anybody I have seen so many people like dudes on

8965
08:02:00,960 --> 08:02:06,720
the internet speak and therapy speak sure yeah I had to go back and see what

8966
08:02:06,720 --> 08:02:10,800
happened just to make sure that I'm not misremembering and because it's so

8967
08:02:10,800 --> 08:02:17,280
difficult to find the initial instance I unfortunately like girl even in my

8968
08:02:17,280 --> 08:02:23,280
shower now oh no sorry that I PTSD I'm so traumatized and retriggered because I

8969
08:02:23,280 --> 08:02:26,840
think is like so ingrained in how I feel about it but actually I don't even

8970
08:02:26,840 --> 08:02:30,080
remember what happened so I had to go back and search to figure out what even

8971
08:02:30,080 --> 08:02:32,580
happened initially because I actually kind of forgot about it but I need to go

8972
08:02:32,580 --> 08:02:37,800
back and but anyways didn't he mention you how would they think you're lying I

8973
08:02:37,800 --> 08:02:42,120
think people don't recall that what was on the screen was me and maybe that's

8974
08:02:42,120 --> 08:02:46,440
why I remember it so much because when you see something like that it stays with

8975
08:02:46,440 --> 08:02:53,200
you so unfortunately I've gone to find this so that I can unfortunately share

8976
08:02:53,200 --> 08:02:59,840
it just to set the record straight but I wouldn't be bringing this up if it

8977
08:02:59,840 --> 08:03:05,360
wasn't something else repeatedly coming across diabolical this is diabolical

8978
08:03:05,360 --> 08:03:08,080
gives me like a pit in my stomach it makes me uncomfortable I wouldn't be

8979
08:03:08,080 --> 08:03:10,880
showing you I'm about to show you people weren't you know trying to change the

8980
08:03:10,880 --> 08:03:16,880
story so anyways this is the instance that I am talking about and this is what

8981
08:03:16,880 --> 08:03:22,240
was pulled up on the stream of course as much has been covered as can be but this

8982
08:03:22,240 --> 08:03:27,520
is why it's been not easy for me to get over and knowing like that someone paid

8983
08:03:27,520 --> 08:03:34,120
for this and that people are trying to tell me that this is okay and it's really

8984
08:03:34,120 --> 08:03:36,440
and the thing is I think people don't realize because they probably couldn't

8985
08:03:36,440 --> 08:03:39,680
see on the stream initially I know that these are all photos of me because I

8986
08:03:39,680 --> 08:03:44,160
you know I take photos of myself I know what my IGV looks like this is it's not

8987
08:03:44,160 --> 08:03:50,040
okay and I hope that I am not I hope I'm talking about it okay it's not easy to

8988
08:03:50,040 --> 08:03:57,200
revisit these things but I think it's important diabolical for the record to

8989
08:03:57,200 --> 08:04:00,440
be very clear because I think it's really really easy for people to forget it's

8990
08:04:00,440 --> 08:04:04,280
easy for people to misrepresent things it's easy for someone to say like oh I did

8991
08:04:04,280 --> 08:04:08,520
this right at that and then people kind of move on but was it him who paid for

8992
08:04:08,520 --> 08:04:12,800
that for what kind of discord no we're not moving on from this forever he said

8993
08:04:12,800 --> 08:04:16,080
that he specifically paid for access to it and so that in general is already

8994
08:04:16,080 --> 08:04:22,320
weird enough but knowing that it was on a page of me makes me deeply

8995
08:04:22,320 --> 08:04:26,400
uncomfortable knowing that this was unintentionally shown to so many people

8996
08:04:26,400 --> 08:04:30,400
through his channel makes me deeply uncomfortable and again everyone's

8997
08:04:30,400 --> 08:04:35,280
entitled to their own opinion that's totally fine I think my issues it seems

8998
08:04:35,280 --> 08:04:39,760
like a lot of people don't know or understand and I also think for me

8999
08:04:39,760 --> 08:04:42,840
personally there's been a lot of like cognitive dissonance seeing people be

9000
08:04:42,840 --> 08:04:46,480
seeing like my friends are people I've known for years be put in close proximity

9001
08:04:46,480 --> 08:04:49,560
with him just because that's a natural kind of part of the industry I think it

9002
08:04:49,560 --> 08:04:53,320
it's like you know it makes me feel some type of way I can't lie I'm like wait so

9003
08:04:53,320 --> 08:04:55,120
do they agree with me or do they not because it's okay for someone to

9004
08:04:55,120 --> 08:04:58,380
disagree with me. If you disagree with me, that's okay. But you could go disagree with

9005
08:04:58,380 --> 08:05:00,020
me far from me. Like, that's, that's

9006
08:05:00,000 --> 08:05:02,000
Okay, does that make sense?

9007
08:05:04,640 --> 08:05:06,640
Yeah

9008
08:05:09,440 --> 08:05:14,440
Pokey no hate you why do you feel need to involve yourself in things that don't concern you I just showed you those photos were of me

9009
08:05:15,040 --> 08:05:18,840
In case that was lost in translation somehow. I think this very much does concern me

9010
08:05:18,840 --> 08:05:23,740
I think it concerns all the women on that website, but I think it concerns me the most particularly because when this happened

9011
08:05:25,560 --> 08:05:29,060
We're doing it. We're actually we're a pressure Olympics right now. Oh shit. Oh

9012
08:05:29,640 --> 08:05:35,100
Shit, fuck cutie. Fuck Maya. Okay, cuz those are the two girls that were there. Okay, and they were also apparently on the site

9013
08:05:35,440 --> 08:05:38,520
She's actually the most victimized. Oh, man

9014
08:05:38,800 --> 08:05:45,480
This was three years ago. Not everybody here now or in the scene now. Maybe was involved then when this happened back then the amount of shit that I got

9015
08:05:46,160 --> 08:05:48,160
it's um

9016
08:05:48,360 --> 08:05:50,520
You know

9017
08:05:50,520 --> 08:05:56,520
The amount shit that I got really was not pleasant. Don't worry guys. I'm not asking for anything the therapy's been paid for

9018
08:05:56,520 --> 08:05:58,520
I just want to make sure we're on the same page

9019
08:05:59,640 --> 08:06:01,640
and that yeah

9020
08:06:01,680 --> 08:06:05,800
Why did you get shit? Well, of course there were a lot of people um either visiting these websites or

9021
08:06:06,400 --> 08:06:10,080
Like further spreading the stuff or people saying like oh, this is normal like you shouldn't be bothered by that

9022
08:06:10,080 --> 08:06:13,440
There was a ton of that there were a ton of people being like this on that big of a deal trying to justify it

9023
08:06:13,440 --> 08:06:17,600
Like that was where the scene was three years ago three years ago people couldn't even all agree like oh, maybe that's not okay

9024
08:06:17,600 --> 08:06:23,440
Sure, most people but just the fact that this all had to come up at the time. Mm-hmm. And again, I don't want to be talking about

9025
08:06:24,120 --> 08:06:27,080
if I if I never saw never again, I wouldn't but

9026
08:06:27,960 --> 08:06:30,400
There's been so many instances where I've been really deeply uncomfortable

9027
08:06:32,400 --> 08:06:38,320
And again everyone can do whatever they want but I think I also can do what I want and I can talk about my experience my truth and my feelings

9028
08:06:38,320 --> 08:06:40,320
I think that's okay. I

9029
08:06:40,960 --> 08:06:42,960
Hope you guys understand

9030
08:06:43,880 --> 08:06:49,160
Mm-hmm. I also agree with this if you're on someone's stream their entire job is to talk about themselves to be honest

9031
08:06:49,320 --> 08:06:51,320
Does it get a loan?

9032
08:06:51,800 --> 08:06:55,440
This I feel like this goes in a creepy territory that is too much for me to investigate

9033
08:06:57,960 --> 08:07:03,080
I'm curious if all of those if because I don't know because I don't know what the fuck she's posting Instagram

9034
08:07:04,000 --> 08:07:10,160
I'm curious if there are even enough pixels on the screen to know if every single picture posted there was of her because all of the nudity is

9035
08:07:10,160 --> 08:07:11,160
Gonna be deep-faked

9036
08:07:11,160 --> 08:07:19,520
But was she able to actually recognize her face wasn't every single one of because if not she's literally just reposting other people's

9037
08:07:20,360 --> 08:07:22,360
non-consensual digital harassment

9038
08:07:23,280 --> 08:07:26,360
deep fake AI porn or whatever like

9039
08:07:27,960 --> 08:07:31,960
Narcissistic maybe but

9040
08:07:33,800 --> 08:07:34,760
My I was on there

9041
08:07:34,760 --> 08:07:39,440
I know you guys like to say random things in chat with no evidence or but if there's that if somebody knows for sure

9042
08:07:39,440 --> 08:07:42,960
I don't know if anybody's done the fucking deep fake analysis and investigation, but

9043
08:07:43,480 --> 08:07:46,740
I think in this instance. I've really gone to great lengths to try to talk about it properly

9044
08:07:48,000 --> 08:07:51,040
Didn't you start by vaguely talking about it on stream? I'm not just right off say you're discomfort instead of being fake

9045
08:07:51,040 --> 08:07:53,480
I did say my I did specify my discomfort to be completely honest with you

9046
08:07:53,480 --> 08:07:56,880
The reason I didn't get into it was because I thought everybody kind of already knew what happened in the details

9047
08:07:57,080 --> 08:07:59,980
A track admitted it was pokey and Maya in the screenshot

9048
08:07:59,980 --> 08:08:04,880
I think a track said that in his original video, but she's saying that every she just said every single picture was of her

9049
08:08:08,360 --> 08:08:12,120
Didn't my misunderstanding I thought that's what she just said did I miss remember

9050
08:08:12,120 --> 08:08:15,560
Did I not hear her say that am I misinterbating what she said? I thought that's what she said

9051
08:08:17,960 --> 08:08:19,960
So the reason I'm further

9052
08:08:21,400 --> 08:08:23,400
You misunderstood oh

9053
08:08:24,720 --> 08:08:26,720
Well, let's go revisit our

9054
08:08:28,080 --> 08:08:30,080
and

9055
08:08:31,760 --> 08:08:33,760
This is what was pulled up on the stream

9056
08:08:33,760 --> 08:08:36,960
Of course, this is gives me like a pit my stomach. It makes me uncomfortable

9057
08:08:36,960 --> 08:08:40,480
I wouldn't be showing you what I'm about to show you people weren't you know trying to change the story

9058
08:08:40,480 --> 08:08:44,320
So anyways, this is the instance that I I'm talking about

9059
08:08:44,840 --> 08:08:50,280
And this is what was pulled up on the stream of course as much has been covered as can be

9060
08:08:50,880 --> 08:08:55,560
But this is why it's been not easy for me to get over and knowing like

9061
08:08:55,960 --> 08:09:00,040
That someone paid for this and that people are trying to tell me that this is okay, and

9062
08:09:02,280 --> 08:09:04,280
Just wait till we move to self-driving

9063
08:09:12,280 --> 08:09:14,960
Hey, we are good. I don't know. Are we

9064
08:09:15,560 --> 08:09:17,560
what in

9065
08:09:17,920 --> 08:09:25,880
Civil cases when someone's suing you what is the limit on what they can ask for and discovery so for instance literally

9066
08:09:25,960 --> 08:09:30,280
Anything you fucking want, and then you can fight about it with the judge if you wanted file motions

9067
08:09:31,240 --> 08:09:34,280
Right now. I got a I have a question like a legitimate question

9068
08:09:34,280 --> 08:09:39,560
So Scott Jennings is being sued for 72 million dollars by Hassan and Hassan's claiming like you fucked my reputation

9069
08:09:40,160 --> 08:09:44,520
You cost me business deals would it be fair and realistic for Jennings to be like okay

9070
08:09:44,520 --> 08:09:49,480
Well, I think that actually your reputation was more hurt by this dog shock incident

9071
08:09:49,480 --> 08:09:52,360
And I'd like to request you know to have some information about that

9072
08:09:52,360 --> 08:09:55,800
Would that be plausible because he's requesting these damages or not?

9073
08:09:55,960 --> 08:09:59,640
I don't know, I don't know, the federal rules of civil procedure, discovery.

9074
08:10:00,000 --> 08:10:03,160
governing things but my understanding is discovery is always incredibly

9075
08:10:03,160 --> 08:10:06,200
incredibly broad which I most people like to stay away from civil lawsuits and

9076
08:10:06,200 --> 08:10:10,880
they settle but sounds good to me wait are you saying that like because both

9077
08:10:10,880 --> 08:10:15,120
things happened at the same time if you want me it's a legitimate I think a loss

9078
08:10:15,120 --> 08:10:22,160
of wages Hassan has to go inside it with the dog shocking well Hassan has to show

9079
08:10:22,160 --> 08:10:25,440
losses right he's trying to show losses like he's going after 72 million

9080
08:10:25,440 --> 08:10:30,320
specific specific amount so Jennings can be like well I don't think that I

9081
08:10:30,320 --> 08:10:34,080
caused that I think that that damage was actually caused by this stock man

9082
08:10:34,080 --> 08:10:37,240
fella and this dog shocking incident yeah what can you what can you tell me

9083
08:10:37,240 --> 08:10:40,600
about this dog shock collar and I feel like that is completely legitimate thing

9084
08:10:40,600 --> 08:10:45,800
to ask for in discovery especially if it's very broad what is it trying to

9085
08:10:45,800 --> 08:10:53,840
determine in civil litigation is okay did this person's conduct cause like

9086
08:10:53,840 --> 08:10:57,720
damages monetarily and then the second question is okay how much damage

9087
08:10:57,720 --> 08:11:01,880
monetarily did it cause if there's some second thing that happened that was

9088
08:11:01,880 --> 08:11:12,920
the real cause of the lost wages and the thing is and that people are trying to

9089
08:11:12,920 --> 08:11:18,640
tell me that this is okay and it's really and the thing is I think people don't

9090
08:11:18,640 --> 08:11:21,320
realize because they probably couldn't see on the stream initially I know that

9091
08:11:21,320 --> 08:11:28,520
these are all photos of me okay hold on actually a poem word skimmied five

9092
08:11:28,520 --> 08:11:30,800
minutes

9093
08:11:40,240 --> 08:11:43,960
how many of which chatter just said that that's not exactly what you just said

9094
08:11:43,960 --> 08:11:53,840
cuz now you're getting banned oh this guy did bye fuck you

9095
08:12:01,360 --> 08:12:05,840
you ain't funny all right stop I know you guys keep saying read the discord

9096
08:12:05,840 --> 08:12:08,800
measures but the discord messages are not clear somebody said in the middle of

9097
08:12:08,800 --> 08:12:11,520
the page between both Maya and pokey pictures this I don't know what this

9098
08:12:11,520 --> 08:12:13,800
means I don't know if this is the middle of the page and this whole web page

9099
08:12:13,800 --> 08:12:17,560
contains my own pokey pictures and like this part these are all just pokey

9100
08:12:17,560 --> 08:12:20,240
pictures the message is not clear if you think this message is clear you have

9101
08:12:20,240 --> 08:12:22,600
cognitive impairment and you need to get a caretaker for the rest of your

9102
08:12:22,600 --> 08:12:25,360
fucking life because you have no ability to read and understand what you're

9103
08:12:25,360 --> 08:12:28,560
reading this is not enough information to know and I haven't done that I don't

9104
08:12:28,560 --> 08:12:31,840
know what the fuck they are posted on these people's Instagrams and I haven't

9105
08:12:31,840 --> 08:12:33,960
gone through all of us to see who the fuck these people are I'm saying that if

9106
08:12:33,960 --> 08:12:36,400
it's not just her it's kind of crazy for a climate every single picture is her but

9107
08:12:36,400 --> 08:12:38,880
maybe it is but I don't know and I don't want to I don't think that's too far

9108
08:12:38,880 --> 08:12:43,320
beyond for me to go through all the fucking pictures on stream I want to make sure on

9109
08:12:43,320 --> 08:12:49,800
this enhance the image yeah I'm good on that one chief page and that why did you

9110
08:12:49,800 --> 08:12:52,640
get shit well of course there were a lot of people either visiting these

9111
08:12:52,640 --> 08:12:56,440
websites or like further spreading the stuff or people saying like oh this is

9112
08:12:56,440 --> 08:12:58,720
normal like you shouldn't be bothered by that there was a ton of that there were

9113
08:12:58,720 --> 08:13:01,320
a ton of people being like this on that big of a deal trying to justify it like

9114
08:13:01,320 --> 08:13:03,720
that was where the scene was three years ago three years ago people couldn't even

9115
08:13:03,720 --> 08:13:07,040
all agree like oh maybe that's not okay sure most people but just the fact that

9116
08:13:07,040 --> 08:13:10,700
this all had to come up at the time and again I don't want to be talking about

9117
08:13:10,700 --> 08:13:17,120
this if I if I never saw my record I wouldn't I just I feel like it I feel

9118
08:13:17,120 --> 08:13:20,720
like it's kind of universally decried there are some degenerate guys who defend

9119
08:13:20,720 --> 08:13:23,720
the idea of like deep fake porn I guess I'm trying to think of there are major

9120
08:13:23,720 --> 08:13:27,080
people on Twitter did it but like the whole world has moved against this like

9121
08:13:27,080 --> 08:13:30,680
every like grok had a huge thing for a while on Twitter and then eventually it

9122
08:13:30,680 --> 08:13:35,240
was banned there and I'm pretty sure all the major AI things won't do it now

9123
08:13:35,240 --> 08:13:40,840
yeah I don't know but there's been so many instances I've been really deeply

9124
08:13:40,840 --> 08:13:46,080
uncomfortable and again everyone can do whatever they want but I think I also

9125
08:13:46,080 --> 08:13:49,280
can do what I want and I can talk about my experience my truth and my feelings I

9126
08:13:49,280 --> 08:13:57,400
think that's okay I hope you guys understand I also agree with this if

9127
08:13:57,400 --> 08:13:59,720
you're on someone's stream their entire job is to talk about themselves to be

9128
08:13:59,720 --> 08:14:05,600
honest doesn't get a little narcissistic maybe but I'll kill me but I think in

9129
08:14:05,600 --> 08:14:09,080
the sense I've really gone to great lengths to try to talk about it properly

9130
08:14:09,080 --> 08:14:11,760
didn't you start by maybe talking about answering my not just read up say you're

9131
08:14:11,760 --> 08:14:14,400
discomfort instead of being big I did say my I did specify my discomfort to be

9132
08:14:14,400 --> 08:14:16,360
completely honest with you the reason I didn't get into it was because I thought

9133
08:14:16,360 --> 08:14:19,400
everybody kind of already knew what happened in the details so the reason

9134
08:14:19,400 --> 08:14:21,960
I'm further elaborating is because I've now learned like wait the the narrative

9135
08:14:21,960 --> 08:14:33,320
around it is maybe not correct I hope that makes sense oh hold on no no no that

9136
08:14:33,320 --> 08:14:51,680
can't be real wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait what time is it

9137
08:14:51,680 --> 08:15:01,000
we're oh my god

9138
08:15:00,000 --> 08:15:17,260
This is like fucking one frame on stream Jesus, rest in peace, ain't you, Alec?

9139
08:15:17,260 --> 08:15:21,160
Was it him who paid for that, or was he in the distance?

9140
08:15:21,160 --> 08:15:37,480
Oh, yeah, she kind of did him dirty on this too, this is a higher resolution than what

9141
08:15:37,480 --> 08:15:41,680
appeared on a screen, because when on a screen was just sort of tabbed thing and it's low

9142
08:15:41,680 --> 08:15:46,880
resolution, this is somebody else taking a screenshot and then posting that screenshot

9143
08:15:46,880 --> 08:15:50,240
at a higher resolution in a discord message and then this is what she's showing here,

9144
08:15:50,240 --> 08:15:52,980
but this actually wasn't what was on a direct stream.

9145
08:15:52,980 --> 08:15:58,760
That's a little bit wild too, but whatever, good one, chief, queen, queen behavior.

9146
08:15:58,760 --> 08:16:04,240
Yeah, I think a lot of people were not aware about it, so I just don't want to hold in

9147
08:16:04,240 --> 08:16:07,560
all of these feelings or resentment against people or an audience that might not even

9148
08:16:07,560 --> 08:16:09,320
know, do you know what I mean?

9149
08:16:09,320 --> 08:16:12,520
But at least afterwards now, it's like if you make the active decision, that's okay.

9150
08:16:12,520 --> 08:16:16,960
I'm so okay with people disagreeing with me or choosing something differently, right?

9151
08:16:16,960 --> 08:16:20,040
But then at least I know my mind, I can sleep these sleeping like, okay, these are the

9152
08:16:20,040 --> 08:16:23,280
people with me, those are the people who disagree, that's all cool and valid and whatnot.

9153
08:16:23,280 --> 08:16:27,960
Thank you so much, you know guys, even a message just like, we support you hard.

9154
08:16:27,960 --> 08:16:31,120
I hate this, because this actually is gross.

9155
08:16:31,120 --> 08:16:32,800
I just want you to know, this is non-consensual.

9156
08:16:32,800 --> 08:16:43,600
I'm being assaulted right now by having to do this by having to do what?

9157
08:16:43,600 --> 08:16:51,000
Okay, yeah, so these are not all of pokey.

9158
08:16:51,000 --> 08:16:57,600
So one of these is of, it looks like Denims, a couple of these are Maya, I don't know why

9159
08:16:57,600 --> 08:17:02,600
she's saying it was exclusively her, that's absolutely not true at all, or why she said

9160
08:17:02,600 --> 08:17:07,880
they were all of her, that's also a lie, but, okay, that's good, good one.

9161
08:17:07,880 --> 08:17:09,120
It doesn't have to be any more.

9162
08:17:09,120 --> 08:17:16,940
Like the people's, other people's deep big porn on her stream, like the stream that she

9163
08:17:16,940 --> 08:17:21,560
did yesterday, she pulled up deep big porn of other people to make a point about her

9164
08:17:21,560 --> 08:17:22,560
deep big porn.

9165
08:17:22,560 --> 08:17:30,240
Well she's saying that, like she's saying that all of these are her, like this top one here,

9166
08:17:30,240 --> 08:17:34,560
this is Denims, these two right here are Maya, 100%.

9167
08:17:34,560 --> 08:17:36,960
Which means that she's showing Denims and Maya's deep big porn.

9168
08:17:36,960 --> 08:17:41,600
This person on the top left, I don't think it's her, yeah, I don't know who this person

9169
08:17:41,600 --> 08:17:48,040
on the top left is, but it's not pokey, I'm almost positive it's not.

9170
08:17:48,040 --> 08:17:52,680
And then the rest might be, these might be, I also don't know, and every girl did her fucking

9171
08:17:52,680 --> 08:18:02,520
makeup, the exact fucking same back then to all look like, to all occasion, so Jesus Christ,

9172
08:18:02,520 --> 08:18:03,520
whatever.

9173
08:18:03,520 --> 08:18:04,520
Okay.

9174
08:18:04,520 --> 08:18:05,520
Good job, queen.

9175
08:18:05,520 --> 08:18:07,600
And the message just like, we support you hard.

9176
08:18:07,600 --> 08:18:08,800
It's so crazy.

9177
08:18:08,800 --> 08:18:10,960
One of my favorite things that people do is when they talk about gaslighting and then

9178
08:18:10,960 --> 08:18:14,960
they try to gaslight you, but good one.

9179
08:18:14,960 --> 08:18:17,680
And she's showing them a higher resolution too on her stream, so nice.

9180
08:18:17,680 --> 08:18:18,680
Yeah.

9181
08:18:18,680 --> 08:18:25,380
I remember when this happened, I greasy, that really means a lot, thank you so much.

9182
08:18:25,380 --> 08:18:29,000
I think I just needed my feelings validated, some degree, because as I said, you don't,

9183
08:18:29,000 --> 08:18:33,960
I don't know why you think you need your feelings, like, and again, this is why I hate this stuff

9184
08:18:33,960 --> 08:18:36,760
more than anything else is because these people co-opt a lot of the language around therapy

9185
08:18:36,760 --> 08:18:39,000
speak or around psychological health or whatever else.

9186
08:18:39,000 --> 08:18:42,280
And then they're, you're using them in such horrible fucking ways.

9187
08:18:42,280 --> 08:18:46,160
There is no qualified individual, and there is no healthy sane individual on the planet

9188
08:18:46,160 --> 08:18:50,520
that will tell you, oh, you need your feelings validated, you should go online to your fucking

9189
08:18:50,520 --> 08:18:54,640
stream and talk to your audience and the entire internet about a gender divide issue in order

9190
08:18:54,640 --> 08:18:56,000
to validate your feelings.

9191
08:18:56,000 --> 08:18:57,360
That is a fucking insane.

9192
08:18:57,360 --> 08:19:00,120
That's probably the last thing that, that's the type of thing somebody tells you of them

9193
08:19:00,120 --> 08:19:01,120
should kill yourself.

9194
08:19:01,120 --> 08:19:05,440
That's an insane thing to say, and to use it as an excuse to try to nuke somebody's career,

9195
08:19:05,440 --> 08:19:08,440
but okay, wild dude.

9196
08:19:08,440 --> 08:19:15,040
Thank you for the, the gifted, I am going to be muted, I am going to be muting alerts

9197
08:19:15,040 --> 08:19:18,080
because this is not about subs alerts or anything like that.

9198
08:19:18,080 --> 08:19:23,680
Yeah, I think I just, I didn't want to feel like my experience was being erased.

9199
08:19:23,680 --> 08:19:33,820
All my feelings, I guess, yeah, yeah, as well, thank you for the 72 months.

9200
08:19:33,820 --> 08:19:38,040
Thank you, Kayla, I appreciate that.

9201
08:19:38,040 --> 08:19:42,320
At the very least, I am proud of myself for talking about this and what I hope is a non-reactive

9202
08:19:42,320 --> 08:19:43,800
manner.

9203
08:19:43,800 --> 08:19:44,800
Yeah.

9204
08:19:44,800 --> 08:19:45,800
Yeah.

9205
08:19:45,800 --> 08:19:50,800
So I really appreciate that people listening to me and again, I don't expect anything to

9206
08:19:50,800 --> 08:19:55,000
come of this aside from, I just want the truth out there to people to know the situation.

9207
08:19:55,000 --> 08:19:56,880
And I just don't want to feel like I'm hiding something.

9208
08:19:56,880 --> 08:20:00,040
That's the thing that just makes me feel gross, like I'm hiding my feelings.

9209
08:20:00,000 --> 08:20:02,140
or I'm hiding the truth, is how it made me feel.

9210
08:20:02,140 --> 08:20:05,200
Sorry, someone was like unrelated, but what's that lip product?

9211
08:20:05,200 --> 08:20:07,200
It is edum, but it is specifically in the color sakura,

9212
08:20:07,200 --> 08:20:08,380
which I think people don't talk about enough.

9213
08:20:08,380 --> 08:20:11,760
The color is very, very pretty, like I like to think.

9214
08:20:11,760 --> 08:20:15,160
The non-reactive, the thing is I don't like being reactive.

9215
08:20:15,160 --> 08:20:18,660
I really don't like, I also, I want to calm down

9216
08:20:18,660 --> 08:20:20,300
my nervous system.

9217
08:20:20,300 --> 08:20:21,640
Again, this all came really--

9218
08:20:21,640 --> 08:20:25,680
- I got a line of doing the most stressful thing possible.

9219
08:20:25,680 --> 08:20:27,640
- My nervous system, this all making my nervous system

9220
08:20:27,640 --> 08:20:29,480
so dysregulated, like when you see someone

9221
08:20:29,480 --> 08:20:31,480
who did something like that, and they're like,

9222
08:20:31,480 --> 08:20:33,080
I don't know, in the same event.

9223
08:20:33,080 --> 08:20:34,800
- Like happy, and they're not killing themselves,

9224
08:20:34,800 --> 08:20:35,640
then it's like--

9225
08:20:35,640 --> 08:20:37,640
- Or in the same tournaments, or in the same rooms

9226
08:20:37,640 --> 08:20:38,480
with your friends.

9227
08:20:38,480 --> 08:20:40,360
It makes you, if you haven't experienced this,

9228
08:20:40,360 --> 08:20:41,360
I don't know how else to explain it,

9229
08:20:41,360 --> 08:20:43,640
but it sends signals to the animal part of you

9230
08:20:43,640 --> 08:20:45,640
that's like, you're not safe here.

9231
08:20:45,640 --> 08:20:47,040
Run! (laughs)

9232
08:20:47,040 --> 08:20:48,640
- I hate her, I do, I'm sorry.

9233
08:20:48,640 --> 08:20:49,840
It's just crazy, bro.

9234
08:20:49,840 --> 08:20:50,960
- You're not safe here.

9235
08:20:50,960 --> 08:20:52,480
And to be honest, the thing is, yeah, sometimes--

9236
08:20:52,480 --> 08:20:54,120
- No one's gonna save you, you gotta save yourself.

9237
08:20:54,120 --> 08:20:56,240
- Oh yeah, girl, ebonics it up.

9238
08:20:56,240 --> 08:20:58,520
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what do we got, what we got?

9239
08:20:59,920 --> 08:21:02,040
- Make God, you ain't funny.

9240
08:21:02,040 --> 08:21:02,880
- True, whoa.

9241
08:21:02,880 --> 08:21:04,080
- That's not true.

9242
08:21:04,080 --> 08:21:04,920
- True, whoa.

9243
08:21:04,920 --> 08:21:06,600
- Maybe you're just boring as fuck.

9244
08:21:06,600 --> 08:21:07,760
- Hell yes.

9245
08:21:07,760 --> 08:21:08,960
- And lame as hell.

9246
08:21:08,960 --> 08:21:10,320
- I clean my queen, my queen, my queen, my queen.

9247
08:21:10,320 --> 08:21:13,840
- 'Cause I'm not only lame, I can say that shit.

9248
08:21:13,840 --> 08:21:14,840
- Hell yes.

9249
08:21:14,840 --> 08:21:15,920
- Oh my God.

9250
08:21:15,920 --> 08:21:17,080
- Oh my God.

9251
08:21:17,080 --> 08:21:18,640
(dramatic music)

9252
08:21:18,640 --> 08:21:22,480
- You gotta be like, "Hey, it is,"

9253
08:21:22,480 --> 08:21:24,000
I do think, I don't love to use the word,

9254
08:21:24,000 --> 08:21:26,680
but I think trigger it as a fair trigger in this instance.

9255
08:21:26,680 --> 08:21:27,520
- Oh.

9256
08:21:27,520 --> 08:21:29,880
- I also wanna say even throughout all of this,

9257
08:21:29,880 --> 08:21:33,040
I wanna thank the two people, even though I'm sure everyone,

9258
08:21:33,040 --> 08:21:35,520
the two people who reached out to me.

9259
08:21:35,520 --> 08:21:39,240
- I'm gonna guess, no, 'cause it would just be so crazy.

9260
08:21:39,240 --> 08:21:41,840
She has to build a bridge, 'cause I'm gonna say Caroline Kwan

9261
08:21:41,840 --> 08:21:42,680
and,

9262
08:21:45,280 --> 08:21:49,760
but no, she's gotta say, she has to say like QD or Maya,

9263
08:21:49,760 --> 08:21:51,800
she's gotta bring up one of those two, right?

9264
08:21:53,120 --> 08:21:55,160
She's gotta bring up one of those two.

9265
08:21:57,120 --> 08:21:59,760
She wouldn't say Daff in Caroline, that'd be crazy.

9266
08:22:00,680 --> 08:22:02,880
She's gotta say one of the two, right?

9267
08:22:02,880 --> 08:22:04,200
- Tina, the love of my life.

9268
08:22:04,200 --> 08:22:05,760
- Oh, who the fuck is Tina?

9269
08:22:05,760 --> 08:22:07,840
- And guess who else, out of the two, case on?

9270
08:22:07,840 --> 08:22:10,360
I just wanna say, they're so sweet for that.

9271
08:22:10,360 --> 08:22:12,320
- Oh, I never, I never know, 'cause you're okay.

9272
08:22:12,320 --> 08:22:13,120
No, for Tina.

9273
08:22:13,120 --> 08:22:16,040
- I think it's such complicated, sensitive topics.

9274
08:22:16,040 --> 08:22:16,880
Yeah.

9275
08:22:16,880 --> 08:22:18,800
- I don't know, I'm gonna run.

9276
08:22:18,800 --> 08:22:20,440
Fuck.

9277
08:22:20,440 --> 08:22:21,280
- Thank you, Sif.

9278
08:22:21,280 --> 08:22:22,120
- No clue.

9279
08:22:22,120 --> 08:22:22,960
- And again, yeah.

9280
08:22:22,960 --> 08:22:23,800
- They're another streamer, okay.

9281
08:22:23,800 --> 08:22:24,640
- I know, right?

9282
08:22:25,720 --> 08:22:26,840
So sweet.

9283
08:22:26,840 --> 08:22:27,960
Okay, so, I'm dead.

9284
08:22:28,960 --> 08:22:30,880
- Tina's one of the girls who relates to the wedding.

9285
08:22:30,880 --> 08:22:31,720
Oh, really?

9286
08:22:31,720 --> 08:22:32,720
- I've been in situations like this multiple times,

9287
08:22:32,720 --> 08:22:34,080
so most of you can do for yourself is forgive them

9288
08:22:34,080 --> 08:22:35,040
and the others.

9289
08:22:35,040 --> 08:22:37,280
I don't think I need to forgive someone

9290
08:22:37,280 --> 08:22:40,080
if they do something that makes me deeply uncomfortable

9291
08:22:40,080 --> 08:22:41,760
or something that I wouldn't do,

9292
08:22:41,760 --> 08:22:43,480
particularly if it's something that you had to pay for,

9293
08:22:43,480 --> 08:22:45,560
so it was intentionally done, it wasn't a mistake, right?

9294
08:22:45,560 --> 08:22:47,520
I think it's very, I think it's up to an individual

9295
08:22:47,520 --> 08:22:48,760
to choose to forgive someone for something

9296
08:22:48,760 --> 08:22:50,080
that wasn't a mistake, right?

9297
08:22:50,080 --> 08:22:51,680
I think I can choose not to.

9298
08:22:51,680 --> 08:22:52,520
I think it is good.

9299
08:22:55,520 --> 08:22:58,640
- What type of, if somebody makes a mistake,

9300
08:22:58,640 --> 08:23:00,520
how much forgiveness do they forgive?

9301
08:23:00,520 --> 08:23:02,200
You don't forgive things for people,

9302
08:23:02,200 --> 08:23:03,240
I mean, I guess you could,

9303
08:23:03,240 --> 08:23:04,560
but that's like a different,

9304
08:23:04,560 --> 08:23:05,840
we need a different word for that.

9305
08:23:05,840 --> 08:23:07,040
Like, there's a difference between like,

9306
08:23:07,040 --> 08:23:08,760
oh, you accidentally stepped on my toe

9307
08:23:08,760 --> 08:23:10,360
and you were, you know, you made a mistake

9308
08:23:10,360 --> 08:23:12,440
versus like, oh, this person intentionally hurt me.

9309
08:23:12,440 --> 08:23:13,280
Like, these are two,

9310
08:23:13,280 --> 08:23:15,840
these are two very different types of forgivenesses,

9311
08:23:15,840 --> 08:23:16,880
but okay.

9312
08:23:16,880 --> 08:23:18,200
- Good for me to set boundaries.

9313
08:23:18,200 --> 08:23:19,960
And I think in a way, like in a way,

9314
08:23:19,960 --> 08:23:22,240
I'm sharing what happened and I'm saying my boundary

9315
08:23:22,240 --> 08:23:23,880
is this is not someone I'm comfortable with.

9316
08:23:23,880 --> 08:23:26,400
If other people are, that's up to them, okay?

9317
08:23:26,400 --> 08:23:29,480
- If you're comfortable, the rapist guy, then that's fine.

9318
08:23:31,800 --> 08:23:35,240
But, I'm not.

9319
08:23:35,240 --> 08:23:37,480
- I'm not beefing anyone, I'm maybe not.

9320
08:23:37,480 --> 08:23:38,760
- I don't wanna beef no one.

9321
08:23:38,760 --> 08:23:39,640
- But I also don't want to feel like

9322
08:23:39,640 --> 08:23:41,960
I have to stay silent about things that happen to me.

9323
08:23:41,960 --> 08:23:45,160
- Nobody said that at all, but okay, good one.

9324
08:23:45,160 --> 08:23:46,640
- Thanks, Yoon.

9325
08:23:46,640 --> 08:23:48,280
I think Bose was in the chat.

9326
08:23:48,280 --> 08:23:49,680
- Let's say Bose are Bose, I didn't fully see.

9327
08:23:49,680 --> 08:23:53,720
Girl, I'm gonna, I'm in a state.

9328
08:23:53,720 --> 08:23:55,640
I'm disassociating live on Twitch.

9329
08:23:55,640 --> 08:23:58,040
(laughing)

9330
08:23:58,040 --> 08:24:00,040
It was so, I think so much, but it's me, bless you.

9331
08:24:00,040 --> 08:24:00,880
Love you so much.

9332
08:24:06,320 --> 08:24:07,800
- How she doing the snow music in the background,

9333
08:24:07,800 --> 08:24:09,040
that's the real question.

9334
08:24:10,120 --> 08:24:12,000
- Because she's singing at herself.

9335
08:24:12,000 --> 08:24:13,000
- True.

9336
08:24:13,000 --> 08:24:14,320
- If someone does hang with them,

9337
08:24:14,320 --> 08:24:15,600
I think that's complicated.

9338
08:24:15,600 --> 08:24:18,240
I think ultimately people choose what they are.

9339
08:24:21,160 --> 08:24:22,560
- If someone does hang with them,

9340
08:24:22,560 --> 08:24:24,360
does that change your opinion of them?

9341
08:24:26,200 --> 08:24:27,760
- If someone does hang with them, does that?

9342
08:24:27,760 --> 08:24:28,840
I think that's complicated.

9343
08:24:28,840 --> 08:24:31,560
I think ultimately people choose what they are.

9344
08:24:31,560 --> 08:24:33,760
Okay, I can only speak for myself.

9345
08:24:33,760 --> 08:24:35,560
Any game today, depending on how I feel.

9346
08:24:35,560 --> 08:24:37,080
- It's like so manipulative, dude.

9347
08:24:37,080 --> 08:24:40,840
Oh my God, she's like an advanced user.

9348
08:24:40,840 --> 08:24:43,560
This is like a level like 85,

9349
08:24:43,560 --> 08:24:46,760
like mind fuckery, psycho, babble person.

9350
08:24:46,760 --> 08:24:48,160
This is high level shit.

9351
08:24:48,160 --> 08:24:49,480
- Maybe I'll play one game of battle.

9352
08:24:49,480 --> 08:24:52,320
- Maybe. (laughs)

9353
08:24:52,320 --> 08:24:54,720
Let me quickly turn on the fan 'cause I'm feeling.

9354
08:24:54,720 --> 08:24:56,560
- I'm always eating.

9355
08:24:56,560 --> 08:24:58,320
- Off to your thing for the 49 months.

9356
08:25:00,000 --> 08:25:02,040
Guys, the thing about the internet, particularly Twitch,

9357
08:25:02,040 --> 08:25:04,560
like it's a wild, wild list.

9358
08:25:04,560 --> 08:25:06,840
Not just the internet, not just Twitch, life.

9359
08:25:06,840 --> 08:25:08,120
Life in general.

9360
08:25:08,120 --> 08:25:10,600
You go with the people that have similar views as you

9361
08:25:10,600 --> 08:25:11,440
and enjoy yourself.

9362
08:25:11,440 --> 08:25:13,140
And if people don't, that's okay.

9363
08:25:13,140 --> 08:25:13,980
That's okay.

9364
08:25:13,980 --> 08:25:15,680
They have a completely different perspective on life.

9365
08:25:15,680 --> 08:25:17,360
And it's not my job to change people's minds.

9366
08:25:17,360 --> 08:25:18,560
I think it's just my job to be myself

9367
08:25:18,560 --> 08:25:19,840
and to be true to myself.

9368
08:25:19,840 --> 08:25:21,560
And also, I hope in a way we're like,

9369
08:25:21,560 --> 08:25:23,360
you know, I don't like an aggressive vibe.

9370
08:25:23,360 --> 08:25:24,440
I don't know.

9371
08:25:24,440 --> 08:25:25,920
I go enough to know I'm not the only one.

9372
08:25:25,920 --> 08:25:28,260
(laughing)

9373
08:25:28,260 --> 08:25:32,880
It's the most retarded, child-coded content ever.

9374
08:25:32,880 --> 08:25:33,720
I just--

9375
08:25:33,720 --> 08:25:35,040
- I was gonna say, that was giving Ms. Rachel

9376
08:25:35,040 --> 08:25:35,880
a little bit.

9377
08:25:35,880 --> 08:25:37,580
- It's crazy, bro.

9378
08:25:44,800 --> 08:25:45,800
- I'm employed at what's going on.

9379
08:25:45,800 --> 08:25:47,840
You are welcome to Rewind in the VOD

9380
08:25:47,840 --> 08:25:49,280
and you'll be able to see them.

9381
08:25:49,280 --> 08:25:50,200
Okay.

9382
08:25:50,200 --> 08:25:51,960
It is not something that I feel too great speaking

9383
08:25:51,960 --> 08:25:52,800
about twice.

9384
08:25:52,800 --> 08:25:53,640
I'm so sorry.

9385
08:25:53,640 --> 08:25:54,480
(laughing)

9386
08:25:54,480 --> 08:25:56,240
- This is the second time she's gone over it.

9387
08:25:56,240 --> 08:25:57,080
I'm just kidding.

9388
08:25:57,080 --> 08:25:59,340
(laughing)

9389
08:26:02,440 --> 08:26:03,720
- Yeah, don't worry, guys.

9390
08:26:03,720 --> 08:26:05,480
The therapy's been done, the therapy's been paid for.

9391
08:26:05,480 --> 08:26:06,680
And that's probably the only reason why

9392
08:26:06,680 --> 08:26:07,960
I can even talk about it now.

9393
08:26:07,960 --> 08:26:11,680
If y'all turn it would be, you're saying nothing.

9394
08:26:11,680 --> 08:26:14,480
- Just as I had, there's literally no world

9395
08:26:14,480 --> 08:26:16,280
where a real therapist told her, listen,

9396
08:26:16,280 --> 08:26:17,680
if you think you fully processed it,

9397
08:26:17,680 --> 08:26:19,440
you need to go and share your feelings

9398
08:26:19,440 --> 08:26:20,840
with your stream and the entire world.

9399
08:26:20,840 --> 08:26:22,800
It's just like, such a crazy thing to say.

9400
08:26:22,800 --> 08:26:23,640
- Which some people might prefer,

9401
08:26:23,640 --> 08:26:26,080
but I actually think, I don't think it's talking shit

9402
08:26:26,080 --> 08:26:27,880
if you're just saying what happened very factually.

9403
08:26:27,880 --> 08:26:28,960
(laughing)

9404
08:26:28,960 --> 08:26:29,800
- I love these.

9405
08:26:29,800 --> 08:26:30,820
I just love them.

9406
08:26:31,960 --> 08:26:35,720
I just, oh man, I'll spend like a week.

9407
08:26:35,720 --> 08:26:37,840
I need to master this type of speaking.

9408
08:26:37,840 --> 08:26:38,680
It's just so good.

9409
08:26:38,680 --> 08:26:39,740
It's OP as fuck.

9410
08:26:39,740 --> 08:26:40,580
- Mitch, I'm not working.

9411
08:26:40,580 --> 08:26:42,400
I was locked in and heard everything.

9412
08:26:42,400 --> 08:26:43,740
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

9413
08:26:45,760 --> 08:26:48,520
I also found, thank you.

9414
08:26:48,520 --> 08:26:52,200
I found, do we know who he looked at or not?

9415
08:26:52,200 --> 08:26:53,480
Yeah, I showed it earlier.

9416
08:26:53,480 --> 08:26:54,840
I don't know if you just came, Angel.

9417
08:26:54,840 --> 08:26:56,920
But all the photos, I don't know if you guys can tell,

9418
08:26:56,920 --> 08:26:57,960
but I can tell that all the photos

9419
08:26:57,960 --> 08:26:59,640
are my Instagram photos altered.

9420
08:27:01,080 --> 08:27:02,480
- That's not true.

9421
08:27:03,720 --> 08:27:05,320
I don't know why she's lying about that.

9422
08:27:05,320 --> 08:27:06,640
Unless I understand what she's saying,

9423
08:27:06,640 --> 08:27:08,480
she sounds like she's saying every single photo

9424
08:27:08,480 --> 08:27:09,840
that was on that thing was of her.

9425
08:27:09,840 --> 08:27:10,800
That's not true.

9426
08:27:12,240 --> 08:27:13,600
- I think that's why it hit me so deeply

9427
08:27:13,600 --> 08:27:14,920
and why I remember it so much,

9428
08:27:14,920 --> 08:27:17,440
because the photos that were shown on history more of me.

9429
08:27:19,800 --> 08:27:21,200
Okay, I'm not gonna lie, I was starting to feel a gasket.

9430
08:27:21,200 --> 08:27:22,120
I'm like, am I misremembering?

9431
08:27:22,120 --> 08:27:23,720
- You are, that's not true.

9432
08:27:23,720 --> 08:27:24,680
And you should know it because you should know

9433
08:27:24,680 --> 08:27:25,560
what your own photos look like,

9434
08:27:25,560 --> 08:27:26,400
and you were the one that looked

9435
08:27:26,400 --> 08:27:27,280
for the high resolution picture thing,

9436
08:27:27,280 --> 08:27:28,800
and it's not, they're not all of you.

9437
08:27:28,800 --> 08:27:30,800
What, what?

9438
08:27:30,800 --> 08:27:32,200
Crazy. (laughs)

9439
08:27:32,200 --> 08:27:34,440
- So I had to go find it.

9440
08:27:34,440 --> 08:27:37,840
I think the page was, yeah, of both, but--

9441
08:27:37,840 --> 08:27:39,480
- No, it was of multiple.

9442
08:27:39,480 --> 08:27:41,480
It was a multiple, the funny thing is,

9443
08:27:41,480 --> 08:27:42,840
is if you just read the words,

9444
08:27:42,840 --> 08:27:45,880
even of the tweet that she pulled up,

9445
08:27:45,880 --> 08:27:47,040
'cause she said she had to go and find it,

9446
08:27:47,040 --> 08:27:48,120
she just found a tweet.

9447
08:27:54,680 --> 08:28:00,480
- For people to like, weird little no-an,

9448
08:28:00,480 --> 08:28:03,680
underseats like, wipe, kill it to their own.

9449
08:28:03,680 --> 08:28:05,520
For that thing, real.

9450
08:28:06,720 --> 08:28:08,760
- The language here on the tweet says,

9451
08:28:08,760 --> 08:28:13,360
can see more clear here the girls' faces deep-faked.

9452
08:28:13,360 --> 08:28:16,920
Like girls implies at least two.

9453
08:28:16,920 --> 08:28:19,640
And then the owner of the site responds here,

9454
08:28:19,640 --> 08:28:22,080
in the middle of the page between both Maya and Pokey pictures.

9455
08:28:22,080 --> 08:28:23,680
That's at least two names.

9456
08:28:23,680 --> 08:28:25,720
So this girl's here implies at least two.

9457
08:28:25,720 --> 08:28:28,080
Maya and Pokey are both listed here and named.

9458
08:28:28,080 --> 08:28:30,680
I don't know if she just like, says this lie over and over again.

9459
08:28:30,680 --> 08:28:32,040
Like, I don't know what she, like,

9460
08:28:32,040 --> 08:28:33,760
she clearly didn't, did she not look at the pictures?

9461
08:28:33,760 --> 08:28:35,960
So is she lying, which she says she recognizes all of them?

9462
08:28:35,960 --> 08:28:39,480
Also, and again, this is like weird and creepy and whatever.

9463
08:28:40,520 --> 08:28:41,320
Actually, you know what?

9464
08:28:41,320 --> 08:28:43,000
I'm gonna be honest, 'cause, (laughs)

9465
08:28:43,000 --> 08:28:47,240
listen, like, I think pictures of people can be sexy.

9466
08:28:47,240 --> 08:28:49,520
I don't, the deep-fake thing is my brain

9467
08:28:49,520 --> 08:28:51,540
just hasn't gotten to that level of goonery yet.

9468
08:28:51,540 --> 08:28:52,840
I'll try to ascend later.

9469
08:28:53,720 --> 08:28:54,720
Somebody can tell me if I'm wrong,

9470
08:28:54,720 --> 08:28:56,600
'cause I haven't done the deep-fake dive.

9471
08:28:56,600 --> 08:29:00,240
But back then, weren't deep-fake porn pics?

9472
08:29:00,240 --> 08:29:03,920
Wasn't it usually just like a photo of a person's face

9473
08:29:03,920 --> 08:29:05,880
and then attached to, like, a porn star body

9474
08:29:05,880 --> 08:29:07,480
and they tried to, like, blend the skin?

9475
08:29:07,480 --> 08:29:10,640
But it wasn't really, like, crazy realistic shit.

9476
08:29:10,640 --> 08:29:14,080
It was like pretty, like, crude?

9477
08:29:16,720 --> 08:29:18,000
It was almost like, yeah, it was like a,

9478
08:29:18,000 --> 08:29:20,240
it was like a kind of a sort of better, like, Photoshop.

9479
08:29:20,240 --> 08:29:21,400
I don't think, like, I don't think it was

9480
08:29:21,400 --> 08:29:22,600
at the video stage at all.

9481
08:29:22,600 --> 08:29:26,200
Or if it was, it was, like, I have seen cringe videos

9482
08:29:26,200 --> 08:29:29,520
where it's, like, the cutout of the face and it's like 2D

9483
08:29:29,520 --> 08:29:31,760
while the video, it's like, these are, like, goofy,

9484
08:29:31,760 --> 08:29:32,600
crazy things.

9485
08:29:32,600 --> 08:29:34,560
Maybe some of these are me before.

9486
08:29:34,560 --> 08:29:35,840
But it was not, like, advanced shit.

9487
08:29:35,840 --> 08:29:38,000
So when she says, like, I recognize all the pictures

9488
08:29:38,000 --> 08:29:40,080
of my own, I mean, like, what do you mean?

9489
08:29:40,080 --> 08:29:42,440
Like, the only part of the picture that's yours is the face

9490
08:29:42,440 --> 08:29:43,840
because at least two of those pictures, I think,

9491
08:29:43,840 --> 08:29:44,920
that we looked at, I didn't get two of my ones,

9492
08:29:44,920 --> 08:29:45,760
and I didn't get two of hers.

9493
08:29:45,760 --> 08:29:47,200
It's literally just the exact same face.

9494
08:29:47,200 --> 08:29:48,360
But then the rest of the picture is completely different.

9495
08:29:48,360 --> 08:29:50,440
It's not like there's, like, her couch and photos

9496
08:29:50,440 --> 08:29:52,120
of, like, her bedroom or something in the background.

9497
08:29:52,600 --> 08:29:54,640
It's like a face posted on top of a porn store

9498
08:29:54,640 --> 08:29:56,640
that it'll look like.

9499
08:29:56,640 --> 08:29:59,840
Which, again, it's not, not okay, it's not good,

9500
08:29:59,840 --> 08:30:00,680
it's not good.

9501
08:30:00,000 --> 08:30:02,000
I'm not saying it's acceptable, but

9502
08:30:02,800 --> 08:30:07,360
Destiny peace go is pro Hassan lawsuit. What a surprise. I could have told you. He'll of course you'll find a way to just write that

9503
08:30:07,360 --> 08:30:10,640
That's obvious taking the world though. They're like

9504
08:30:11,200 --> 08:30:15,080
Like I don't know in the same events or in the same tournaments or in the same rooms with your friends

9505
08:30:15,080 --> 08:30:18,440
It makes you it if you haven't experienced this I don't know how else to explain it, but

9506
08:30:21,960 --> 08:30:26,880
Thanks, you know, I think I think bozos in the chat was a bozer, but does I didn't fully see girl

9507
08:30:26,880 --> 08:30:32,640
I mean, I didn't hurt every it is not something that I feel too great speaking about twice. I'm so sorry

9508
08:30:37,520 --> 08:30:39,520
Am I miss remembering am I crazy?

9509
08:30:39,880 --> 08:30:47,880
So I had to go to go find it. I think the page was um, yeah of both, but as you guys saw on what I showed

9510
08:30:49,960 --> 08:30:51,960
When I look at those photos, I'm like

9511
08:30:52,200 --> 08:30:58,080
He did not edit them. He just paid for access to the webs not not even just I mean, I'll say just he paid for access to the

9512
08:30:58,080 --> 08:31:00,080
website that they were on

9513
08:31:01,680 --> 08:31:03,680
I think what I found really enlightening about all of this

9514
08:31:06,520 --> 08:31:11,840
It taught me a lot about human psychology and also the way that things go

9515
08:31:14,120 --> 08:31:17,300
With a very delicate topics like this and what I mean by that is, you know

9516
08:31:17,300 --> 08:31:19,280
I'm in an instance where this all happened very publicly

9517
08:31:19,440 --> 08:31:23,840
You're not because you're not giving the topic any due diligence. You're not having a real conversation about it

9518
08:31:23,840 --> 08:31:28,120
You are damaging like the whole discourse every single person

9519
08:31:28,120 --> 08:31:32,520
Especially women and especially victims of this would have been better off you to have literally never said anything about this

9520
08:31:32,680 --> 08:31:37,880
Like all you've done is damage every part of the conversation around this by treating it like a fucking child

9521
08:31:37,880 --> 08:31:41,320
He's using it in like a back-and-forth drama warfare with other stream. You don't like

9522
08:31:41,880 --> 08:31:48,960
Jesus and even though it was public I think the facts were very quick to be misconstrued and even long-term people either fully forgot or

9523
08:31:49,440 --> 08:31:51,440
The narrative was rewritten completely

9524
08:31:52,560 --> 08:31:55,800
And it makes me really sad to think that if this was something that would that happened privately or that I

9525
08:31:56,640 --> 08:31:59,200
Didn't have like the screenshot that I had before to show you guys

9526
08:31:59,200 --> 08:32:03,800
It would be a lot harder to stand up for myself. So I think I've learned a thing or two about, you know

9527
08:32:04,720 --> 08:32:08,600
Learn to think true about that and I know that because I shared my feelings

9528
08:32:08,600 --> 08:32:12,680
It's important for me to specify everything in detail and show exactly what I'm talking about

9529
08:32:13,280 --> 08:32:16,080
Not that I wanna I really don't want to

9530
08:32:17,960 --> 08:32:19,960
Validation stream literally literally

9531
08:32:21,320 --> 08:32:23,320
Yes, I think a lot of

9532
08:32:29,560 --> 08:32:32,200
How do you score not caring about Wally with caring about deepfakes

9533
08:32:36,840 --> 08:32:42,160
Because cartoons aren't real and the people being deep faked are real people do you see how there's like a difference? Oh

9534
08:32:43,040 --> 08:32:45,040
My god, I did the thing

9535
08:32:48,960 --> 08:32:55,480
They might have 45 classes on you, but you have 45 grams of chocolatey protein on them

9536
08:32:55,480 --> 08:33:00,800
Oh my god, 45 grams. This guy's ready to kick ass. Go let that dog out

9537
08:33:02,560 --> 08:33:05,320
Score on protein macros flavor

9538
08:33:06,280 --> 08:33:08,280
Feed your athlete

9539
08:33:08,480 --> 08:33:15,160
They do know what's part of our refrigerated pouches a farm that I'm passing the trees

9540
08:33:15,160 --> 08:33:21,220
I did they use pineapples bananas. Oh, don't forget dragon fruit and

9541
08:33:22,000 --> 08:33:27,280
You're these real people they got that. What was that? How old is that girl like three? She memorized like once

9542
08:33:27,800 --> 08:33:32,640
For a lot. I don't believe that. That's these are deep fake kids. That was too much reading. I don't believe it

9543
08:33:38,720 --> 08:33:40,720
Every woman has her own story

9544
08:33:41,280 --> 08:33:45,180
Her own purpose what warner's has been there for all of them

9545
08:33:45,800 --> 08:33:50,400
Supporting everybody with comfortable solutions designed for every version of you

9546
08:33:51,360 --> 08:33:55,560
Warners all you need people didn't want to talk about it. They didn't want their names associated with it

9547
08:33:55,560 --> 08:33:58,680
But then the downside is no one talks about it and people just forget

9548
08:33:59,160 --> 08:34:00,180
Yeah

9549
08:34:00,180 --> 08:34:02,480
Yeah, we can never forget hashtag never forget

9550
08:34:04,440 --> 08:34:06,440
How much longer is this can I be done with this please?

9551
08:34:11,400 --> 08:34:12,920
so

9552
08:34:12,920 --> 08:34:14,400
So cute

9553
08:34:14,400 --> 08:34:21,000
Yes, actually, I'm not gonna lie. That is what I think that's the part that prevents me from being silent about things that I disagree with I

9554
08:34:21,200 --> 08:34:25,240
worry about future repercussions things happening to people in the future all of that that

9555
08:34:25,920 --> 08:34:28,400
concerns like what hello what I

9556
08:34:33,640 --> 08:34:37,720
Do think it's important not just with instances like this even when it comes like your health your feelings

9557
08:34:38,240 --> 08:34:44,020
Things that you've been through in life. It is so important to be your biggest advocate people don't know what they don't know

9558
08:34:44,120 --> 08:34:46,960
Just to be clear. This is horrendous fucking advice

9559
08:34:47,680 --> 08:34:53,200
That one of the most important things in life and as you get older she absolutely knows this right everything

9560
08:34:53,200 --> 08:34:58,800
She's saying is she's using psycho babble to be manipulative one of the most important things you can learn as you get older is actually discretion

9561
08:34:58,800 --> 08:35:00,800
You don't have to actually

9562
08:35:00,000 --> 08:35:01,860
actually share every single problem in your life

9563
08:35:01,860 --> 08:35:03,140
with every scope person you talk to.

9564
08:35:03,140 --> 08:35:04,740
It's actually one of the huge fuck-ups that you can do

9565
08:35:04,740 --> 08:35:06,480
when you overshare different problems

9566
08:35:06,480 --> 08:35:07,380
with different groups of people.

9567
08:35:07,380 --> 08:35:08,860
That's actually one of the worst possible things

9568
08:35:08,860 --> 08:35:10,180
that you can do.

9569
08:35:10,180 --> 08:35:11,000
(sighs)

9570
08:35:11,000 --> 08:35:12,460
- People don't know to do something sometimes

9571
08:35:12,460 --> 08:35:13,860
until you tell them.

9572
08:35:13,860 --> 08:35:15,700
- Alrighty, I'm getting.

9573
08:35:15,700 --> 08:35:17,900
- It all starts with you oftentimes.

9574
08:35:17,900 --> 08:35:18,740
- I'm getting triggered.

9575
08:35:18,740 --> 08:35:20,500
Please get me out of here.

9576
08:35:20,500 --> 08:35:22,100
We're almost done.

9577
08:35:22,100 --> 08:35:23,460
Right?

9578
08:35:23,460 --> 08:35:24,300
- Yeah.

9579
08:35:25,580 --> 08:35:27,740
I believe in his apology video he said something

9580
08:35:27,740 --> 08:35:30,700
along the lines of it was morbid curiosity,

9581
08:35:30,700 --> 08:35:31,980
which I'm not in his brain.

9582
08:35:31,980 --> 08:35:33,420
I can't say if that is or isn't true.

9583
08:35:33,420 --> 08:35:35,260
All I know was if you had to go out of your way

9584
08:35:35,260 --> 08:35:36,700
and put in your credit card details

9585
08:35:36,700 --> 08:35:38,180
and intentionally purchase something,

9586
08:35:38,180 --> 08:35:41,300
to me that goes a little past a mistake or curiosity,

9587
08:35:41,300 --> 08:35:43,860
to me that feels, well yeah, quite intentional.

9588
08:35:46,700 --> 08:35:47,940
What backlash could you possibly face?

9589
08:35:47,940 --> 08:35:49,340
Check Twitter.

9590
08:35:49,340 --> 08:35:50,180
Also--

9591
08:35:50,180 --> 08:35:51,500
- That's the backlash, it's Twitter.

9592
08:35:51,500 --> 08:35:52,340
- Guys, how am I?

9593
08:35:52,340 --> 08:35:54,420
Girl, I don't want to be involved in these topics at all.

9594
08:35:54,420 --> 08:35:56,660
- You do, but you do.

9595
08:35:56,660 --> 08:35:59,020
- No, nobody, literally, nobody's forced you

9596
08:35:59,020 --> 08:36:00,020
to bring any of this up at all.

9597
08:36:00,020 --> 08:36:02,500
- I can't speak us to his mindset.

9598
08:36:02,500 --> 08:36:03,340
I can't speak.

9599
08:36:03,340 --> 08:36:04,180
I'm not him.

9600
08:36:08,100 --> 08:36:08,940
Yeah.

9601
08:36:10,620 --> 08:36:11,460
Thank you, Angel.

9602
08:36:11,460 --> 08:36:12,300
Thanks so much.

9603
08:36:16,260 --> 08:36:18,060
Anyone else is welcome to elaborate on anything he said

9604
08:36:18,060 --> 08:36:19,940
if that is helpful to people.

9605
08:36:19,940 --> 08:36:22,080
That is primarily what I remember.

9606
08:36:24,060 --> 08:36:25,380
I'm not gonna lie.

9607
08:36:25,380 --> 08:36:27,940
No, I'll keep that up and get to myself.

9608
08:36:27,940 --> 08:36:29,500
You know what's insane?

9609
08:36:29,500 --> 08:36:30,500
I'm not saying that this is the case,

9610
08:36:30,500 --> 08:36:31,740
but can we show you guys something?

9611
08:36:31,740 --> 08:36:32,900
(laughing)

9612
08:36:32,900 --> 08:36:36,500
- Oh, she might have to bring us a totally unrelated thing.

9613
08:36:36,500 --> 08:36:37,340
- Hold on.

9614
08:36:44,220 --> 08:36:46,260
- It's so funny that you say that

9615
08:36:46,260 --> 08:36:48,100
because this is someone saying

9616
08:36:48,100 --> 08:36:49,820
that he needs a restraining order against me.

9617
08:36:49,820 --> 08:36:51,460
- Oh wait, did we say this earlier?

9618
08:36:51,460 --> 08:36:53,500
Or did we watch this last night before I slept?

9619
08:36:53,500 --> 08:36:56,780
- Or no, I didn't, I quit screaming earlier yesterday.

9620
08:36:56,780 --> 08:36:58,140
I remember watching her do this.

9621
08:36:58,140 --> 08:36:59,620
It was like 21 liked tweet.

9622
08:37:01,420 --> 08:37:02,700
- I've gotten to the point where

9623
08:37:02,700 --> 08:37:03,660
for my own mental health,

9624
08:37:03,660 --> 08:37:04,780
like I just can't take shit on,

9625
08:37:04,780 --> 08:37:05,620
someone should I read on to it.

9626
08:37:05,620 --> 08:37:06,780
I just can't take it seriously.

9627
08:37:08,220 --> 08:37:09,980
Guys, am I crazy?

9628
08:37:13,220 --> 08:37:14,580
Oh, thank you so much.

9629
08:37:14,580 --> 08:37:16,380
Sometimes you're okay, thank you.

9630
08:37:16,380 --> 08:37:17,620
At some point when like,

9631
08:37:20,980 --> 08:37:22,500
I felt like I was going crazy.

9632
08:37:23,500 --> 08:37:25,820
(humming)

9633
08:37:32,460 --> 08:37:33,940
- Someone said if he's at home, what's the goal here?

9634
08:37:33,940 --> 08:37:34,940
I just want to be able to share my feelings

9635
08:37:34,940 --> 08:37:35,780
when they come up.

9636
08:37:35,780 --> 08:37:36,620
- Yeah, me too.

9637
08:37:38,980 --> 08:37:41,660
- And also to make sure that the record is substrate.

9638
08:37:41,660 --> 08:37:42,820
- I want to know why.

9639
08:37:49,500 --> 08:37:50,340
Nevermind.

9640
08:37:50,340 --> 08:37:52,540
I don't want to, I hate being on the side of the argument.

9641
08:37:52,540 --> 08:37:53,660
This is like in cell.

9642
08:37:53,660 --> 08:37:55,180
This is, this whole stream is a nice whole stream.

9643
08:37:55,180 --> 08:37:56,020
I don't care.

9644
08:38:00,940 --> 08:38:03,780
- Is this bad enough to be Volcell stream?

9645
08:38:03,780 --> 08:38:04,620
That's a real question.

9646
08:38:04,620 --> 08:38:05,780
- Like let's say that a guy wanted you to just go live

9647
08:38:05,780 --> 08:38:06,980
and he just wanted to share his feeling

9648
08:38:06,980 --> 08:38:09,020
about like how fucking hot some chick was

9649
08:38:09,020 --> 08:38:10,420
and how he wanted to fucking splooge.

9650
08:38:10,420 --> 08:38:13,180
He's like 24/7 thinking about this girl's body

9651
08:38:13,180 --> 08:38:14,860
and he just wants to say it over and over and over again.

9652
08:38:14,860 --> 08:38:15,700
And that's it.

9653
08:38:15,700 --> 08:38:17,500
But he doesn't mean anything by it.

9654
08:38:17,500 --> 08:38:19,460
He doesn't want anything to happen to anybody.

9655
08:38:19,460 --> 08:38:21,540
He just wants to share his feelings with the world.

9656
08:38:21,540 --> 08:38:25,940
Can you tell me why that's what's bad about that

9657
08:38:25,940 --> 08:38:27,940
that wouldn't also apply to this?

9658
08:38:27,940 --> 08:38:29,260
You're just sharing your feelings.

9659
08:38:29,260 --> 08:38:30,100
That's it.

9660
08:38:34,180 --> 08:38:36,900
Like it's such a weirdly stupid thing.

9661
08:38:36,900 --> 08:38:38,660
Like I'm just sharing my feelings.

9662
08:38:38,660 --> 08:38:41,660
Like depending on how reductive you want to be,

9663
08:38:41,660 --> 08:38:43,740
that's like every single utterance ever

9664
08:38:43,740 --> 08:38:45,780
from a human being is a sharing of your feelings.

9665
08:38:45,780 --> 08:38:47,540
It goes through some subjective frame of reference

9666
08:38:47,540 --> 08:38:51,500
and he's like, "God, I want somebody to kill this person."

9667
08:38:51,500 --> 08:38:52,340
Are you bro?

9668
08:38:52,340 --> 08:38:53,180
Are you okay?

9669
08:38:53,180 --> 08:38:55,500
Oh, I was just sharing my feelings, ha ha ha ha ha ha.

9670
08:38:55,500 --> 08:38:56,340
Like...

9671
08:38:58,700 --> 08:39:01,420
(humming)

9672
08:39:01,420 --> 08:39:02,420
- Need advice?

9673
08:39:02,420 --> 08:39:05,500
I think you should talk to every single person.

9674
08:39:05,500 --> 08:39:06,780
- Yeah.

9675
08:39:06,780 --> 08:39:07,620
For me?

9676
08:39:07,620 --> 08:39:08,460
- Definitely.

9677
08:39:08,460 --> 08:39:09,780
- I will avoid situations where I'm not comfortable

9678
08:39:09,780 --> 08:39:10,780
with someone.

9679
08:39:10,780 --> 08:39:11,620
- We know.

9680
08:39:11,620 --> 08:39:12,460
- Being there.

9681
08:39:12,460 --> 08:39:13,300
- Wow.

9682
08:39:13,300 --> 08:39:17,660
- Otherwise, even unintentionally,

9683
08:39:17,660 --> 08:39:19,980
it would just feel like enabling it or...

9684
08:39:19,980 --> 08:39:24,060
Oh my God, bro, like she's just so disgusting.

9685
08:39:24,060 --> 08:39:25,140
Oh my God.

9686
08:39:25,140 --> 08:39:26,460
- Enabling it?

9687
08:39:26,460 --> 08:39:27,940
(laughing)

9688
08:39:27,940 --> 08:39:29,260
- So everybody else there, just so you know,

9689
08:39:29,260 --> 08:39:30,860
everyone else there is an enabler, by the way.

9690
08:39:30,860 --> 08:39:32,700
If you do any event or show up anywhere with ATRARC,

9691
08:39:32,700 --> 08:39:35,180
whatsoever, you're saying it's okay to digitally,

9692
08:39:35,180 --> 08:39:38,900
sexually, non-consensually distribute,

9693
08:39:38,900 --> 08:39:42,860
non-consensually generated digital pornographic images

9694
08:39:42,860 --> 08:39:45,700
of revenge, AI generated deep fake porn of women.

9695
08:39:45,700 --> 08:39:46,540
Just so you know, by the way,

9696
08:39:46,540 --> 08:39:47,940
if you ever share a platform with ATRARC,

9697
08:39:47,940 --> 08:39:48,940
hope you know that.

9698
08:39:49,980 --> 08:39:54,140
- I was gonna say, if you could get like one of the,

9699
08:39:54,140 --> 08:39:55,420
like I showed speed or something and be like,

9700
08:39:55,420 --> 08:39:57,260
I really can't be in a place around Pokemon like that.

9701
08:39:57,260 --> 08:39:58,100
- Oh, 'cause of the inward thing?

9702
08:39:58,100 --> 08:39:59,220
- Yeah, 100%.

9703
08:39:59,220 --> 08:40:00,060
- What's the word?

9704
08:40:00,000 --> 08:40:05,900
But that's me personally everyone's different from me you guys have seen my stream. There's something that'll like oh, yeah

9705
08:40:05,900 --> 08:40:09,440
Yeah, you talk give me that honky-talkie. Yeah shows on my face

9706
08:40:10,320 --> 08:40:16,400
So and also I can tell even just by my reaction when I see friends of mine in track of them where it makes me like

9707
08:40:17,720 --> 08:40:19,720
Is it like my parasympathetic?

9708
08:40:19,960 --> 08:40:24,800
That's the one for fun. It just sends my body into fight or flight. Okay, so I'm like what I put myself in a room with him, right?

9709
08:40:27,040 --> 08:40:29,760
It's like no friends. It sounds like you need more therapy, buddy

9710
08:40:32,760 --> 08:40:35,880
And you Halloween plans, I'm not sure I was invited to a couple parties

9711
08:40:36,640 --> 08:40:39,080
To be honest, I really want to do like a board game night or to do something chill

9712
08:40:39,080 --> 08:40:42,400
But I haven't figured it out. I've had a certain things on my radar that I have to deal with

9713
08:40:43,480 --> 08:40:48,080
Do you have your live and damn it? No, she figured out thing annals may she pass out then go take us out

9714
08:40:49,900 --> 08:40:54,560
What are you hoping to happen from this? I just want to share my feelings. That's it

9715
08:40:54,560 --> 08:40:59,180
It was really sweet got a couple messages in chat. I support you that's like that doesn't even make sense

9716
08:41:00,360 --> 08:41:04,000
What are you hoping to get us? I just want to share my feelings. And that's it. No what you what you're uttering

9717
08:41:04,800 --> 08:41:10,480
Language is designed with a purpose in mind what you're just uttering sentences with absolutely no direction no goal

9718
08:41:10,480 --> 08:41:14,280
It's just a goal list completely arbitrary trivial utterance of words

9719
08:41:15,360 --> 08:41:17,360
So I just don't want to feel

9720
08:41:17,600 --> 08:41:19,920
I'm not tick-tock waiting for anything to happen. I

9721
08:41:20,520 --> 08:41:26,480
Feel good knowing my truth is is out there everybody can make up their own mind. That's it. Oh, it's enough being in my head

9722
08:41:26,480 --> 08:41:28,480
I don't want to be everyone else

9723
08:41:28,920 --> 08:41:32,640
What the fuck wait, how old was um

9724
08:41:36,120 --> 08:41:41,120
Why am I thinking I'm a vigilant what's the name of the Harry Potter Hermione actor actors

9725
08:41:41,880 --> 08:41:47,680
What is their name Emma something my brain is fucking rotted Emma Watson. How old was Emma Watson in 2013?

9726
08:41:49,000 --> 08:41:52,280
They're really you're they were young she looks like she's like 12. Am I crazy?

9727
08:41:53,920 --> 08:41:55,000
Well

9728
08:41:55,000 --> 08:41:59,560
No, I'm a Watson was older than that in 2013 for sure. How do you know that so fast?

9729
08:42:00,280 --> 08:42:05,960
Me. Yeah, because in 2013 I was 13, but my sister grew up

9730
08:42:06,320 --> 08:42:12,640
Okay, never mind. She was 23. I guess that fuck me. I guess is this like a younger picture of her or is that like

9731
08:42:15,160 --> 08:42:18,760
What is this how many fucking weirdo tweets does he have?

9732
08:42:19,000 --> 08:42:21,000
Bro, what am I looking at?

9733
08:42:23,000 --> 08:42:25,000
Why

9734
08:42:28,000 --> 08:42:30,000
He has a lot he has a lot

9735
08:42:31,760 --> 08:42:38,520
Yeah, well back in the olden days before AI if you wanted to what we call now deep faking it was photo shopping

9736
08:42:40,360 --> 08:42:42,800
Oh, it looks like Hermione in the third or fourth movie

9737
08:42:43,480 --> 08:42:49,800
Well, these are crazy tweets, bro. These are all jokes and all irony and okay

9738
08:42:49,960 --> 08:42:58,160
Read all of JF Sergeant's sex articles in a row this morning now. I want casual sex infused period blood right after I masturbate in the office

9739
08:43:00,800 --> 08:43:02,800
If you can see

9740
08:43:03,680 --> 08:43:10,000
nipple if I can see your nipple through your sports bra you got to lay off the hormones lady with the enlarged clitoris

9741
08:43:13,880 --> 08:43:15,880
You

9742
08:43:17,320 --> 08:43:23,400
Hashtag happy international women's day. Here's my recreation of Kim Kardashian's nudes

9743
08:43:34,800 --> 08:43:37,440
The one on the right is no matter how many years out of college

9744
08:43:37,440 --> 08:43:41,440
I'll shamelessly look at sorority tumblr when I stumble across cross one

9745
08:43:41,920 --> 08:43:45,560
Hashtag I keep getting older. They stay the same age

9746
08:43:48,360 --> 08:43:53,600
How are these real bro tip these are so bad bro tip

9747
08:43:56,120 --> 08:43:59,160
Oh my god, I got to see Jennifer Lawrence naked

9748
08:44:00,400 --> 08:44:02,400
Someone's still up. I'd like to retweet that

9749
08:44:05,440 --> 08:44:14,000
Okay, but was he like 15 when this was happening or was he an adult and 2014 it was probably 22 or something, right?

9750
08:44:14,120 --> 08:44:17,200
How old was Hassan Pyaker in 2014?

9751
08:44:18,240 --> 08:44:22,360
It was 22 or 23 years old right at a college and working for the young

9752
08:44:22,360 --> 08:44:29,600
Some men men do not place a lot of emphasis emotional connection to every kind of like sex that they've had especially if they had bad sex

9753
08:44:29,600 --> 08:44:33,440
Especially if they treat women as like, you know a cum receptacle then

9754
08:44:36,440 --> 08:44:45,400
Bro tip is advice passed on from brother to brother for the purpose of courting females and acquiring currency

9755
08:44:51,280 --> 08:44:52,840
Now

9756
08:44:52,840 --> 08:44:57,840
Due to its content. It should not be taken seriously this program. Okay, so it's all a joke on this week's social guru

9757
08:44:57,840 --> 08:44:59,840
We cover an old classic war

9758
08:45:00,000 --> 08:45:05,000
horse but let's get out of here rule this one's been passed on for centuries and

9759
08:45:05,000 --> 08:45:09,120
helped even the Vikings get laid I actually lost my virginity with this rule

9760
08:45:09,120 --> 08:45:12,400
by the way I'm not gonna lie so you're in the club you finally use the five

9761
08:45:12,400 --> 08:45:16,600
second rule because you're smart now because you follow bro tip and you start

9762
08:45:16,600 --> 08:45:20,520
talking to the squirrel it finally leads to hooking up and you're bolding up the

9763
08:45:20,520 --> 08:45:25,320
grab an ass cheek and then maybe even get some hand play downstairs what is

9764
08:45:25,320 --> 08:45:28,440
the next move you need to get out of there and you need to get out of there

9765
08:45:28,440 --> 08:45:33,640
fast hopefully with the girl so you have to use these five magic words let's get

9766
08:45:33,640 --> 08:45:38,760
out of here you might think wait a minute there's no way this is gonna work yes

9767
08:45:38,760 --> 08:45:43,720
it does let's get out of here it's time to get out of there and it's time to

9768
08:45:43,720 --> 08:45:48,280
separate her from her herd meaning her crowd of girlfriends that are going to do

9769
08:45:48,280 --> 08:45:54,160
their best to cock block you because they're fat and lonely if let's

9770
08:45:54,920 --> 08:46:03,680
but work he's treating women like contraceptives right now I mean it's we

9771
08:46:03,680 --> 08:46:07,680
used to call this rape culture let's get out of here doesn't work you exchange

9772
08:46:07,680 --> 08:46:12,520
numbers she leaves you leave you guys talk later and you continue on your

9773
08:46:12,520 --> 08:46:16,760
conquest for the rest of the night if the let's get out of here does work you

9774
08:46:16,760 --> 08:46:22,600
have successfully left the club with a hot girl hopefully in the cab and you're

9775
08:46:22,600 --> 08:46:27,280
going to your place or her place now once you're in a more intimate one-on-one

9776
08:46:27,280 --> 08:46:31,800
situation it's much easier to get things moving forward if you hadn't played

9777
08:46:31,800 --> 08:46:36,400
the finger fun already in the club now is the time to utilize those magic

9778
08:46:36,400 --> 08:46:41,160
fingers take her back to your house show off that impressive vinyl collection

9779
08:46:41,160 --> 08:46:45,760
that no one else gives a shit about and go into town

9780
08:46:49,360 --> 08:46:53,680
once you bring them back home it doesn't matter how impressive your spotify

9781
08:46:53,680 --> 08:46:59,120
playlist is or however many stamps you've collected in 21 years of virginity the

9782
08:46:59,120 --> 08:47:04,320
only thing that'll matter is your tikka pig if you don't have that it doesn't

9783
08:47:04,320 --> 08:47:08,080
really matter what you have you should move on to the sex as soon as possible

9784
08:47:08,080 --> 08:47:12,280
poor glass of yellow tail because you have nothing better put some Marvin

9785
08:47:12,280 --> 08:47:17,520
Gaye on and get your freak on for the first time in your life ever there's

9786
08:47:17,520 --> 08:47:19,960
nothing wrong with the other tail actually don't deserve anything you're welcome

9787
08:47:19,960 --> 08:47:23,000
and that concludes our bro tip of the week leave your comments and ideas and

9788
08:47:23,000 --> 08:47:28,920
opinions that I really truly care about in the section below and I'm just saying

9789
08:47:28,920 --> 08:47:37,640
if I had videos of this when I was 23 I don't know man if I if I heard a devoid

9790
08:47:37,640 --> 08:47:42,000
of the fact of who that it like that is who that is if I heard someone speaking

9791
08:47:42,000 --> 08:47:46,600
like that I'd be like don't girl do not go with him he's going to rape you see

9792
08:47:46,600 --> 08:47:50,040
you're one of the cockwalkers that's why he you have to do the magic five let's

9793
08:47:50,040 --> 08:47:58,680
get out of here away from peach so that it like that is the most rapey fucking

9794
08:47:58,680 --> 08:48:05,580
energy in a video that I have seen in a very long time Wow

9795
08:48:14,400 --> 08:48:18,360
thank you bunny that's so sweet and I love the spelling bunny I call all

9796
08:48:18,360 --> 08:48:24,600
little things I love like my cat I call I call him buddy I do think it's not fair

9797
08:48:24,600 --> 08:48:30,000
for people to bring up the timeline because to be honest I wish that in three

9798
08:48:30,000 --> 08:48:32,960
years I didn't feel any which way just a hot day and I'm sorry I don't mean to

9799
08:48:32,960 --> 08:48:37,320
sound mean to anybody but like timelines are important they're like for

9800
08:48:37,320 --> 08:48:41,920
exceptionally traumatic events or for an exceptionally challenging thing then

9801
08:48:41,920 --> 08:48:47,160
obviously you have more of a concern but like even for even for things that are

9802
08:48:47,160 --> 08:48:52,800
incredibly like bad like the death of a parent the death of a child could be

9803
08:48:52,800 --> 08:48:57,600
horrible the death of a loved pet like if you're having extreme difficulties

9804
08:48:57,600 --> 08:49:01,120
like integrating back into reality or you having to make extreme accommodations

9805
08:49:01,120 --> 08:49:06,160
like years after the fact then something has to be something has to change you have

9806
08:49:06,160 --> 08:49:12,640
to do something to to to say get over it sounds is is a is a that's that's not

9807
08:49:12,640 --> 08:49:15,840
quite the same thing but what do you have to do to process it and then to be able

9808
08:49:15,840 --> 08:49:20,360
to live your life in an ordinarily fashion like it can't be that a thing

9809
08:49:20,360 --> 08:49:22,880
happens and this is the thing that is just destroying you for the rest of your

9810
08:49:22,880 --> 08:49:25,640
life or it's like re-traumatizing you return you over and over again except

9811
08:49:25,640 --> 08:49:30,640
for it like if there's an exceptionally crazy adventure a got seeing a pixel of a

9812
08:49:30,640 --> 08:49:33,280
guy jerking off the defect point of view if this is doing it for you with four

9813
08:49:33,280 --> 08:49:37,440
years later there's probably some other thing that you absolutely need to go

9814
08:49:37,440 --> 08:49:40,720
work on before you're in a public domain constantly bring it up over and

9815
08:49:40,720 --> 08:49:44,000
again it's just that something like timelines are important like I'm sorry

9816
08:49:44,000 --> 08:49:46,840
they are like if somebody tells you that they are feeling incredibly shitty and

9817
08:49:46,840 --> 08:49:49,680
horrible and they just don't know what they're gonna do because they just like

9818
08:49:49,680 --> 08:49:53,080
broke up with their you know partner of like four or five years and this

9819
08:49:53,080 --> 08:49:57,480
happened like last week it's like okay that's fair yeah probably feel like shit

9820
08:49:57,480 --> 08:49:59,760
if somebody tells you that they feel like they lost the love of their life and

9821
08:49:59,760 --> 08:50:00,260
whatever.

9822
08:50:00,000 --> 08:50:01,480
find somebody that's like that again,

9823
08:50:01,480 --> 08:50:04,080
and it's been two years, something is wrong,

9824
08:50:04,080 --> 08:50:06,120
like there has to be a significant change,

9825
08:50:06,120 --> 08:50:09,960
this, that period of grief is not normal,

9826
08:50:09,960 --> 08:50:10,880
something is out of the ordinary,

9827
08:50:10,880 --> 08:50:12,720
you have to worry about it, like timelines are important.

9828
08:50:12,720 --> 08:50:13,720
Like, yeah, I don't know what else to say,

9829
08:50:13,720 --> 08:50:15,920
like, it does matter.

9830
08:50:17,320 --> 08:50:18,160
- What about it?

9831
08:50:18,160 --> 08:50:19,280
But that's just not how it works,

9832
08:50:19,280 --> 08:50:21,160
when you go through something like that.

9833
08:50:23,000 --> 08:50:26,360
Also, except for the ending of Game of Thrones,

9834
08:50:26,360 --> 08:50:28,120
I will always be retrigued or re-traumatized,

9835
08:50:28,120 --> 08:50:29,400
every time Game of Thrones clips comes up

9836
08:50:29,400 --> 08:50:30,800
the things that I just don't understand,

9837
08:50:30,800 --> 08:50:33,600
that were never addressed, and I don't know why,

9838
08:50:33,600 --> 08:50:35,360
I don't know why they gave up on that show

9839
08:50:35,360 --> 08:50:36,800
after season five, and just the most

9840
08:50:36,800 --> 08:50:40,480
random fucking shit will appear, and mean nothing, okay?

9841
08:50:40,480 --> 08:50:41,600
- I've been 10 years ago that I still

9842
08:50:41,600 --> 08:50:43,440
un-talked with my friends, do you know that one time?

9843
08:50:43,440 --> 08:50:44,920
(laughing)

9844
08:50:44,920 --> 08:50:46,880
- What was the point of bringing the monster thing

9845
08:50:46,880 --> 08:50:50,340
to King's Landing if Cersei didn't even give a fuck?

9846
08:50:51,720 --> 08:50:53,560
Why is it, hold on. - What was the story?

9847
08:50:53,560 --> 08:50:55,240
- Because they brought the white, the white,

9848
08:50:55,240 --> 08:50:56,720
the white from the, beyond the wall,

9849
08:50:56,720 --> 08:50:58,520
they brought it to Cersei, and she didn't even care.

9850
08:50:58,520 --> 08:51:01,400
Hold on, Cersei literally blew up the entire Sept

9851
08:51:01,400 --> 08:51:03,440
to kill a whole bunch of people that she didn't like.

9852
08:51:03,440 --> 08:51:07,120
Why would they trust her to meet her outside King's Landing

9853
08:51:07,120 --> 08:51:09,600
when she has shown her ability to literally kill everybody?

9854
08:51:09,600 --> 08:51:12,240
Why didn't Cersei just kill all of her enemies

9855
08:51:12,240 --> 08:51:16,640
that had come to that place, like, okay, I'm just saying.

9856
08:51:17,760 --> 08:51:20,400
- I think it's okay, and I wanna be very clear, like guys,

9857
08:51:20,400 --> 08:51:22,240
if this was, there are so many private things

9858
08:51:22,240 --> 08:51:24,360
that I don't ever bring up, the only reason

9859
08:51:24,360 --> 08:51:26,440
that it is feeling more cathartic for me too.

9860
08:51:26,440 --> 08:51:30,040
Who said this earlier, Caroline Kwan was like,

9861
08:51:30,040 --> 08:51:32,200
it's crazy when you're a man.

9862
08:51:32,200 --> 08:51:33,560
All you have to do is not rape somebody

9863
08:51:33,560 --> 08:51:34,840
and you get a whole bunch of credit for it,

9864
08:51:34,840 --> 08:51:37,440
and it's like, first of all, that's crazy, okay?

9865
08:51:38,920 --> 08:51:40,680
But, why I spoke to you, like,

9866
08:51:40,680 --> 08:51:42,240
there's a whole bunch of private things that I don't bring up.

9867
08:51:42,240 --> 08:51:44,040
That's called being a normal human being.

9868
08:51:44,040 --> 08:51:46,480
Most normal human beings don't actually just, like,

9869
08:51:46,480 --> 08:51:47,960
bring up all their dirty laundry and air,

9870
08:51:47,960 --> 08:51:49,920
all of their shit continuously and constantly over a soldier.

9871
08:51:49,920 --> 08:51:51,080
That's actually what a normal person does.

9872
08:51:51,080 --> 08:51:52,880
I don't know who you'd bring that up like a brag.

9873
08:51:52,880 --> 08:51:54,160
- Very clear, like guys, if this was,

9874
08:51:54,160 --> 08:51:57,040
there are so many private things that I don't ever bring up,

9875
08:51:57,040 --> 08:51:58,960
the only reason that it is feeling more cathartic for me

9876
08:51:58,960 --> 08:52:03,040
to discuss it is because this is public, right?

9877
08:52:03,040 --> 08:52:04,080
I see this stuff.

9878
08:52:04,080 --> 08:52:05,280
I see him publicly.

9879
08:52:07,280 --> 08:52:08,560
There's a lot of stuff that I discuss in private,

9880
08:52:08,560 --> 08:52:09,720
don't you worry.

9881
08:52:09,720 --> 08:52:12,280
Kevin, I think of the eight months.

9882
08:52:12,280 --> 08:52:13,200
Again, if I never saw him again,

9883
08:52:13,200 --> 08:52:15,880
I would never talk about him, ever again, ever, ever, ever.

9884
08:52:17,880 --> 08:52:22,360
♪ Oh, no, no, no, no, no ♪

9885
08:52:22,360 --> 08:52:23,360
Oh my gosh, why did I think that,

9886
08:52:23,360 --> 08:52:24,760
no, this message was about Embaupe.

9887
08:52:24,760 --> 08:52:25,560
I thought this was about Embaupe.

9888
08:52:25,560 --> 08:52:26,400
- Embaupe.

9889
08:52:28,440 --> 08:52:29,280
- Oh my gosh.

9890
08:52:29,280 --> 08:52:31,520
(laughing)

9891
08:52:33,160 --> 08:52:34,520
- Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

9892
08:52:35,960 --> 08:52:38,480
- Yeah, I don't want to beat a dead horse.

9893
08:52:38,480 --> 08:52:40,640
I just want to reiterate, this is not coming out of the blue.

9894
08:52:40,640 --> 08:52:42,360
- I think you have to post each of her ads right now.

9895
08:52:42,360 --> 08:52:44,600
- I'm in a lot of different events and, again, with--

9896
08:52:44,600 --> 08:52:46,640
- She's a queen. - People close to me.

9897
08:52:46,640 --> 08:52:48,040
Sometimes they know, sometimes they don't.

9898
08:52:48,040 --> 08:52:52,320
And I'm just noticing, like, I've just felt uncomfortable

9899
08:52:52,320 --> 08:52:55,440
many times over, and I've let it fester within me.

9900
08:52:55,440 --> 08:52:57,400
And I actually don't think it has to.

9901
08:52:57,400 --> 08:52:58,840
There's a lot of things that I can't talk about publicly.

9902
08:52:58,840 --> 08:53:01,000
But this happened publicly, so I think I can.

9903
08:53:04,640 --> 08:53:05,800
You know what, this too.

9904
08:53:05,800 --> 08:53:06,640
I think we're speaking out in a way,

9905
08:53:06,640 --> 08:53:08,760
it has valued us a similar experience of mine.

9906
08:53:08,760 --> 08:53:12,520
You know, in a way, I think I've really started to

9907
08:53:12,520 --> 08:53:16,920
further just, and more holistically accept myself

9908
08:53:16,920 --> 08:53:18,520
and my feelings.

9909
08:53:18,520 --> 08:53:19,800
If someone does something like that to me,

9910
08:53:19,800 --> 08:53:22,480
I'm not comfortable with them, probably forever.

9911
08:53:22,480 --> 08:53:25,600
And if anyone else is out there in a situation that's similar,

9912
08:53:25,600 --> 08:53:27,640
we're like, you see people still interacting with someone,

9913
08:53:27,640 --> 08:53:29,200
and it doesn't make you feel good,

9914
08:53:29,200 --> 08:53:30,720
it's okay for you to feel that way.

9915
08:53:30,720 --> 08:53:32,720
It really is, and it's okay for you to choose

9916
08:53:32,720 --> 08:53:34,560
however you want to heal, deal with them.

9917
08:53:34,560 --> 08:53:35,400
Heal with that, too.

9918
08:53:38,360 --> 08:53:40,920
Otherwise, those feelings that resented

9919
08:53:40,920 --> 08:53:42,040
just like it festers up within you,

9920
08:53:42,040 --> 08:53:44,160
and it turns into some really unhealthy things.

9921
08:53:45,560 --> 08:53:47,640
It is okay to stay on your ground,

9922
08:53:47,640 --> 08:53:50,640
and however you feel about how someone wronged you.

9923
08:53:55,680 --> 08:53:59,360
Oh my gosh, what made you think about it a couple months ago?

9924
08:53:59,360 --> 08:54:00,920
You know what's so sad and gross, too?

9925
08:54:00,920 --> 08:54:04,280
I have women in my audience, especially on TikTok,

9926
08:54:04,280 --> 08:54:06,680
who leave comments and they tell me things like,

9927
08:54:08,280 --> 08:54:09,720
someone in my class in high school

9928
08:54:09,720 --> 08:54:11,320
is making deep fakes of me.

9929
08:54:13,360 --> 08:54:15,840
Like, this is not stuff that we can be normalizing,

9930
08:54:15,840 --> 08:54:16,680
and it's so dramatic.

9931
08:54:16,680 --> 08:54:17,680
They're like, I don't want to go to school anymore,

9932
08:54:17,680 --> 08:54:19,000
I'm uncomfortable, what should I do?

9933
08:54:19,000 --> 08:54:20,480
And I can tell by the way that they write the message

9934
08:54:20,480 --> 08:54:23,520
that they feel like they're uncertain if it's wrong,

9935
08:54:23,520 --> 08:54:24,520
or if they're valid for how they feel.

9936
08:54:24,520 --> 08:54:26,680
I'm like, hello, this is not formal.

9937
08:54:28,160 --> 08:54:29,720
- I think we watched this part earlier in terms of--

9938
08:54:29,720 --> 08:54:31,280
- Anyways.

9939
08:54:31,280 --> 08:54:32,320
- That's my opinion.

9940
08:54:32,320 --> 08:54:34,160
- Duh-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah.

9941
08:54:34,160 --> 08:54:35,320
- That's my opinion.

9942
08:54:37,400 --> 08:54:38,240
That's my opinion.

9943
08:54:41,400 --> 08:54:42,240
- Okay.

9944
08:54:42,240 --> 08:54:43,080
- Can I be done with it?

9945
08:54:43,080 --> 08:54:44,120
- As much as I don't want to keep reiterating,

9946
08:54:44,120 --> 08:54:46,520
I see this as a consistent point that's brought up.

9947
08:54:46,520 --> 08:54:48,400
The reason that I'm bringing it up is because I keep seeing him

9948
08:54:48,400 --> 08:54:53,200
in events and things and blah-blah-blah with my friends.

9949
08:54:53,200 --> 08:54:54,600
- Are you invested in this because of your own core case

9950
08:54:54,600 --> 08:54:56,080
or just because drama?

9951
08:54:56,080 --> 08:54:56,920
Hmm.

9952
08:54:56,920 --> 08:54:57,760
No, I'm trying to think.

9953
08:54:57,760 --> 08:54:59,080
Is it just because I'm personally motivated

9954
08:54:59,080 --> 08:54:59,920
so I don't give--

9955
08:55:00,000 --> 08:55:01,600
don't give a fuck about any of the stuff,

9956
08:55:01,600 --> 08:55:02,820
or it's just 'cause it's pointless drama

9957
08:55:02,820 --> 08:55:05,280
that actually means nothing and has no impact anywhere else.

9958
08:55:05,280 --> 08:55:06,120
Hmm.

9959
08:55:08,800 --> 08:55:10,400
- Those people that are close to me,

9960
08:55:10,400 --> 08:55:12,320
other streamers that are close to me.

9961
08:55:12,320 --> 08:55:15,520
- It's, I think that male female gender divide war stuff

9962
08:55:15,520 --> 08:55:19,480
online is, it's difficult because there are real differences

9963
08:55:19,480 --> 08:55:21,440
between men and women, and then they get reflected

9964
08:55:21,440 --> 08:55:23,280
in the worst types of way online,

9965
08:55:23,280 --> 08:55:25,880
and then the worst and most brainless dipshits

9966
08:55:25,880 --> 08:55:28,480
like her talk about it, and make the entire conversation

9967
08:55:28,480 --> 08:55:30,800
and everything related to it is horrible as possible.

9968
08:55:30,800 --> 08:55:33,320
So the thing that sucks is nobody on Twitch,

9969
08:55:33,320 --> 08:55:35,240
and fuck Adrian, I don't, well, not fuck Adrian.

9970
08:55:35,240 --> 08:55:36,640
But I'm not friends on Twitter, I don't own me there,

9971
08:55:36,640 --> 08:55:38,360
whatever, but nobody on Twitch will stand up for Adrian.

9972
08:55:38,360 --> 08:55:39,760
Nobody will give a, because you can't,

9973
08:55:39,760 --> 08:55:41,880
'cause this is a fucking radioactive fuck issue.

9974
08:55:41,880 --> 08:55:43,800
So everybody will just sit by and shut the fuck up,

9975
08:55:43,800 --> 08:55:46,160
like Pussy's, and they'll let him tank whatever,

9976
08:55:46,160 --> 08:55:48,320
and then it will just go on and pretend

9977
08:55:48,320 --> 08:55:50,920
that nothing ever happens while like the white women

9978
08:55:50,920 --> 08:55:54,120
psycho babble queens, I guess just drift from place to place,

9979
08:55:54,120 --> 08:55:55,920
you know, destroying whatever they feel like they need to

9980
08:55:55,920 --> 08:55:57,400
in order to maintain their social status.

9981
08:55:57,400 --> 08:56:00,600
It's just, it's an incredibly toxic,

9982
08:56:00,600 --> 08:56:03,440
disgusting, horrible engagement with

9983
08:56:03,440 --> 08:56:06,720
what is like a really crazy, sophisticated,

9984
08:56:06,720 --> 08:56:08,640
or a crazy topic that we should be having

9985
08:56:08,640 --> 08:56:11,080
a sophisticated conversation with.

9986
08:56:11,080 --> 08:56:13,040
Like that thing that should just brought up about like,

9987
08:56:13,040 --> 08:56:14,520
yeah, like, and I notice that people

9988
08:56:14,520 --> 08:56:16,040
are deep-thinking people at school,

9989
08:56:16,040 --> 08:56:17,480
and then that's like my situation is like,

9990
08:56:17,480 --> 08:56:20,080
no, like the school shit and the amount

9991
08:56:20,080 --> 08:56:21,520
of like bowling and harassment that's going on

9992
08:56:21,520 --> 08:56:23,680
with people being able to easily deep-fake

9993
08:56:23,680 --> 08:56:25,400
like students or teachers or whatever at school,

9994
08:56:25,400 --> 08:56:26,520
that shit is kind of crazy.

9995
08:56:26,520 --> 08:56:28,680
And the ease of access for that,

9996
08:56:28,680 --> 08:56:30,760
that is like a really big, huge problem.

9997
08:56:30,760 --> 08:56:32,800
But one of the biggest things,

9998
08:56:32,800 --> 08:56:35,480
and this is hard, especially for performative psycho,

9999
08:56:35,480 --> 08:56:38,320
witches online to, because they never talk about this

10000
08:56:38,320 --> 08:56:39,680
with any level of anything,

10001
08:56:39,680 --> 08:56:42,120
is there's very different categories in my mind,

10002
08:56:42,120 --> 08:56:44,680
and I'm not necessarily justifying one over the other,

10003
08:56:44,680 --> 08:56:46,600
but there's like a gooner category of people

10004
08:56:46,600 --> 08:56:48,320
that are gooning, and it's, you know,

10005
08:56:48,320 --> 08:56:50,040
it can be gross or rude or disrespectful,

10006
08:56:50,040 --> 08:56:52,120
or it could be a violative of somebody's privacy or whatever,

10007
08:56:52,120 --> 08:56:53,120
but you've got the gooner category,

10008
08:56:53,120 --> 08:56:55,160
and then you've got like the harassment

10009
08:56:55,160 --> 08:56:56,840
and vitriolic category.

10010
08:56:56,840 --> 08:56:59,680
In my opinion, that category is insanely disgusting,

10011
08:56:59,680 --> 08:57:01,320
and it's much worse, and it's what a lot

10012
08:57:01,320 --> 08:57:03,520
of that deep-fake stuff was being weaponized for it.

10013
08:57:03,520 --> 08:57:07,000
So like, if, and again, I don't know why I'm even hedging

10014
08:57:07,000 --> 08:57:08,520
this 'cause I'll be quoted as saying I'm supporting this

10015
08:57:08,520 --> 08:57:10,680
anyway, like when the AI stuff was allowing people

10016
08:57:10,680 --> 08:57:12,240
to deep-fake people and drug off to them,

10017
08:57:12,240 --> 08:57:14,280
you know, not great, and there's a whole bunch

10018
08:57:14,280 --> 08:57:15,840
of discussions about autonomy and image control

10019
08:57:15,840 --> 08:57:17,160
and whatever else, but not great.

10020
08:57:17,160 --> 08:57:19,720
But when that grock shit started to take off on Twitter,

10021
08:57:19,720 --> 08:57:21,480
and every time a girl would tweet something,

10022
08:57:21,480 --> 08:57:23,680
especially like a gender take or whatever related

10023
08:57:23,680 --> 08:57:25,160
as a matter of women, and guys are showing up

10024
08:57:25,160 --> 08:57:28,320
at the comments like, "Grock, zooming in our fucking pussy

10025
08:57:28,320 --> 08:57:30,800
"and showing me this stupid bitches fucking cunt."

10026
08:57:30,800 --> 08:57:32,440
That shit was crazy.

10027
08:57:32,440 --> 08:57:33,960
These are people who should have their fucking dicks

10028
08:57:33,960 --> 08:57:37,520
chopped off, there was insane levels of like disgusting,

10029
08:57:37,520 --> 08:57:39,400
like not like people who wanted to fucking get off

10030
08:57:39,400 --> 08:57:40,400
and who were getting really horny,

10031
08:57:40,400 --> 08:57:42,960
but like people who were like getting hard off

10032
08:57:42,960 --> 08:57:45,840
of the humiliating harassment of it.

10033
08:57:45,840 --> 08:57:47,840
And I think that that type of behavior I think

10034
08:57:47,840 --> 08:57:50,600
has been used a lot, now especially like in school environments

10035
08:57:50,600 --> 08:57:52,040
with kids and shit where they can deep-fake

10036
08:57:52,040 --> 08:57:53,800
one of classmates and start harassing and bullying

10037
08:57:53,800 --> 08:57:55,760
and ruining their lives or it, because these people's lives

10038
08:57:55,760 --> 08:57:57,600
will get run, because these people are like fucking 13,

10039
08:57:57,600 --> 08:57:59,800
14 years old, it's like an insane thing

10040
08:57:59,800 --> 08:58:01,560
that people will deep-baking porn review.

10041
08:58:01,560 --> 08:58:03,120
Again, now that it's okay to do it to streamers

10042
08:58:03,120 --> 08:58:05,080
because they're bigger or whatever, but that is crazy.

10043
08:58:05,080 --> 08:58:08,160
The ATRAK stuff, again, not great, gooning, whatever,

10044
08:58:08,160 --> 08:58:10,400
but he's not like weaponizing this and like trying

10045
08:58:10,400 --> 08:58:12,560
to attack pokey with that or going for sexual harassment

10046
08:58:12,560 --> 08:58:14,440
or humiliation or whatever, is just,

10047
08:58:14,440 --> 08:58:16,480
but everything gets wrapped into the same thing,

10048
08:58:16,480 --> 08:58:19,080
and you've got like people like, whatever, like Charlie's

10049
08:58:19,080 --> 08:58:20,880
saying that like he needs to be on the sex offender,

10050
08:58:20,880 --> 08:58:23,000
it's just like Jesus, that's crazy, bro.

10051
08:58:24,560 --> 08:58:27,320
- I just see him re-entering places that I thought

10052
08:58:27,320 --> 08:58:29,440
were maybe a safe space for me.

10053
08:58:29,440 --> 08:58:31,200
And hey, nobody owes me anything, they really don't.

10054
08:58:31,200 --> 08:58:34,080
- Like, dude, I can't, I can't, this is the last,

10055
08:58:34,080 --> 08:58:35,840
I gotta go over those, okay?

10056
08:58:35,840 --> 08:58:40,160
Safe spaces are explicitly spaces where you can go

10057
08:58:40,160 --> 08:58:43,400
and vent about a certain issue or topic or people

10058
08:58:43,400 --> 08:58:45,640
without those people being there, so that you don't have

10059
08:58:45,640 --> 08:58:47,040
to worry about what I'm doing right now,

10060
08:58:47,040 --> 08:58:48,800
which is constantly hedging, okay?

10061
08:58:48,800 --> 08:58:51,440
Because sometimes you just wanna have to have a space

10062
08:58:51,440 --> 08:58:53,400
where you can talk about a particular issue

10063
08:58:53,400 --> 08:58:55,920
or vent about a particular thing, where you are centering

10064
08:58:55,920 --> 08:58:58,800
and almost exclusively focusing on your feelings

10065
08:58:58,800 --> 08:59:00,480
and how you feel about a certain thing,

10066
08:59:00,480 --> 08:59:03,120
especially depending upon who you are

10067
08:59:03,120 --> 08:59:04,960
and the environment that you exist in, right?

10068
08:59:04,960 --> 08:59:07,680
Like the most annoying fucking thing as a person,

10069
08:59:07,680 --> 08:59:10,400
this would happen to women a lot in the past, as a woman,

10070
08:59:10,400 --> 08:59:12,960
you have an issue with like every time I met work,

10071
08:59:12,960 --> 08:59:14,520
people make weird comments, are they sexualizing me?

10072
08:59:14,520 --> 08:59:15,440
And then as soon as you see anything,

10073
08:59:15,440 --> 08:59:17,200
some guy shows up and he's like,

10074
08:59:17,200 --> 08:59:20,280
I bet you didn't have to send it for the draft.

10075
08:59:20,280 --> 08:59:21,520
What percentage of women do you think

10076
08:59:21,520 --> 08:59:23,200
work in the fucking coal mines?

10077
08:59:23,200 --> 08:59:25,280
And it's like, okay, fuck me, I guess, nevermind.

10078
08:59:25,280 --> 08:59:26,520
My bad, I won't say anything, okay?

10079
08:59:26,520 --> 08:59:28,960
'Cause apparently, right, that's the point of a space.

10080
08:59:28,960 --> 08:59:30,780
Friend groups, we're saying like,

10081
08:59:30,780 --> 08:59:34,080
oh, I thought these spaces were safe space, no, what?

10082
08:59:34,080 --> 08:59:35,600
Public areas are friend groups are huge,

10083
08:59:35,600 --> 08:59:37,360
these are not like supposed to be spaces

10084
08:59:37,360 --> 08:59:39,480
that are like hyper-accommodating you

10085
08:59:39,480 --> 08:59:41,040
for against every possible thing

10086
08:59:41,040 --> 08:59:44,080
that could ever make you uncomfortable or upset, it's just.

10087
08:59:44,080 --> 08:59:46,040
And again, I could say maybe she's just speaking like casually,

10088
08:59:46,040 --> 08:59:47,360
oh, it's safe space, like I just placed, I wouldn't get,

10089
08:59:47,360 --> 08:59:48,840
like I've said it, but like, she's webinites,

10090
08:59:48,840 --> 08:59:50,360
so much other psycho babble in here,

10091
08:59:50,360 --> 08:59:54,160
psycho talks, psycho therapies, I was just like, oh my God, dude.

10092
08:59:54,160 --> 08:59:57,120
- I just see him re-entering places that I thought were

10093
08:59:57,120 --> 08:59:59,000
maybe a safe space for me.

10094
08:59:59,000 --> 08:59:59,880
And hey, nobody owes me anything,

10095
08:59:59,880 --> 09:00:00,720
they really,

10096
09:00:00,000 --> 09:00:04,600
don't but I just wanted to I also hate this like really manipulative like oh like

10097
09:00:04,600 --> 09:00:09,240
I'm not really saying anybody should do anything nobody owes me anything you

10098
09:00:09,240 --> 09:00:13,560
know I definitely wouldn't hang out with anybody though that's being around those

10099
09:00:13,560 --> 09:00:16,320
people because they're kind of normalizing what's basically like the

10100
09:00:16,320 --> 09:00:20,120
digital rape of women but you know I don't think that she wants to say it with

10101
09:00:20,120 --> 09:00:23,920
her chest well I want to say you're a fucking piece of shit if you still hang

10102
09:00:23,920 --> 09:00:27,840
out with them kind of but it's more than that is that what when you reframe

10103
09:00:27,840 --> 09:00:33,920
everything through did you ever follow any of the Annabor saga wait was Annabor

10104
09:00:33,920 --> 09:00:39,920
the one Annafurls yeah which one was the dark triad one yes it was her yes one

10105
09:00:39,920 --> 09:00:42,600
of things that she did and it was it was one of the funniest things because she

10106
09:00:42,600 --> 09:00:46,320
like blatantly did I don't know if this is an OCD thing or what but she was so

10107
09:00:46,320 --> 09:00:52,360
like transparent about weaponizing I feel statements so like the point when

10108
09:00:52,360 --> 09:00:54,840
you're having a discussion argument somebody the point of an I feel statement

10109
09:00:54,840 --> 09:00:59,640
is that you try to stop attacking the other person or at least make them feel

10110
09:00:59,640 --> 09:01:03,200
like they're not being attacked by just explaining like this is how I feel so

10111
09:01:03,200 --> 09:01:06,840
you're saying something it's just it's really getting upset right okay so

10112
09:01:06,840 --> 09:01:09,440
instead of saying like you like stop saying this you keep attacking me when

10113
09:01:09,440 --> 09:01:12,360
say what you say it's like hold on okay right now I feel like okay I just feel

10114
09:01:12,360 --> 09:01:16,160
like I'm super being I'm feeling I'm under attack okay I feel like this is an

10115
09:01:16,160 --> 09:01:18,920
incredible conversation for me I feel like I just want to be able to talk

10116
09:01:18,920 --> 09:01:23,120
about this thing okay that's like I feel statements what Anna would do is she

10117
09:01:23,120 --> 09:01:25,720
would just use I feel statements to smuggle an attack she's like so she would

10118
09:01:25,720 --> 09:01:28,600
be like I feel like all you ever do is you just attack me over and over again

10119
09:01:28,600 --> 09:01:30,800
everything is fucking bullshit I feel like you're fucking lying about everything

10120
09:01:30,800 --> 09:01:33,360
it's like hold on this is not an I feel statement she's like well yes because

10121
09:01:33,360 --> 09:01:35,680
it starts with I feel I was like no motherfucker that's not how that works

10122
09:01:35,680 --> 09:01:38,400
you can't just use an I feel statement and then put a tax behind it and you've

10123
09:01:38,400 --> 09:01:41,400
like broke the matrix but this is what she's doing here this whole time it's

10124
09:01:41,400 --> 09:01:44,000
like she keeps using like these things like I just want to share my feelings

10125
09:01:44,000 --> 09:01:47,720
and it's like no you're not sharing your feelings you this is explicitly like

10126
09:01:47,720 --> 09:01:52,080
contextually you're in a public space talking about another content creator you

10127
09:01:52,080 --> 09:01:54,560
know how the message is gonna be perceived and you know like everything's

10128
09:01:54,560 --> 09:01:58,560
going that it would be the exact same thing seriously as somebody going on and

10129
09:01:58,560 --> 09:02:00,640
it's like I just want to share my feelings I'm gonna talk about all the

10130
09:02:00,640 --> 09:02:03,600
different ways that I want to come on this person but you're not doing it and

10131
09:02:03,600 --> 09:02:05,520
you're not saying anybody should do it and you're not gonna go into it but you

10132
09:02:05,520 --> 09:02:07,920
just you're literally just talking about your feelings and that's it and you know

10133
09:02:07,920 --> 09:02:12,360
every single person would recognize well hold on you're obviously having a big

10134
09:02:12,360 --> 09:02:15,160
impact on that person and you're gonna impact the way that people view that

10135
09:02:15,160 --> 09:02:18,160
person and they're gonna be subjected like everybody would understand that

10136
09:02:18,160 --> 09:02:21,320
that's not an acceptable thing to do this is not like this is you're not just

10137
09:02:21,320 --> 09:02:24,920
sharing your feelings you're choosing to speak on a public platform and that

10138
09:02:24,920 --> 09:02:29,280
means something you know like it's dumb

10139
09:02:29,280 --> 09:02:32,360
make it happen so that people can make up their own nights because I didn't talk

10140
09:02:32,360 --> 09:02:35,080
about it at the time so much other people talked about it but I think now

10141
09:02:35,080 --> 09:02:38,080
people kind of forgot so that's what I don't want it for you bring it up but I

10142
09:02:38,080 --> 09:02:42,800
keep I keep seeing him oh uncomfortable there's a reason I didn't talk about it

10143
09:02:42,800 --> 09:02:49,000
for two three years right sorry because I didn't see him for however long

10144
09:02:49,000 --> 09:02:53,320
right okay I have a tweet response from you should have never let this house dude

10145
09:02:53,320 --> 09:02:59,160
then you only change my life he doesn't leave his house he oh no how dare he he

10146
09:02:59,160 --> 09:03:05,040
went to the wedding which is supposed to be a safe space for bogey bro I do

10147
09:03:05,040 --> 09:03:10,040
okay I do my best oh I will say I do want to say there was also Daph who talked

10148
09:03:10,040 --> 09:03:12,600
about this and she was so sweet actually if anyone's my publishers it was Daph

10149
09:03:12,600 --> 09:03:15,640
and he and I was able to talk to them too about it and that was really really

10150
09:03:15,640 --> 09:03:21,600
helpful and helping me process my feelings yeah 39 deaths just because I

10151
09:03:21,600 --> 09:03:23,760
mentioned the two people that reached out to me I also wanted to mention that

10152
09:03:23,760 --> 09:03:30,400
she's been so lovely you know what I will say like people see more

10153
09:03:30,400 --> 09:03:35,340
concerned as to why I brought it up than the fact that it happened but oh my god

10154
09:03:35,340 --> 09:03:42,800
each their own I'm just here to give you guys the facts that I know oh my gosh

10155
09:03:42,800 --> 09:03:45,640
no I'm sorry give me the fish torture clip I don't care now sure give it link it

10156
09:03:45,640 --> 09:03:49,040
again we'll watch it all right I've been so avoidant sort of that I actually

10157
09:03:49,040 --> 09:03:54,080
auto modded the name in my chat so that's not called being avoidant

10158
09:03:54,080 --> 09:03:57,000
auto modding a name that you feel like triggers you're makes you upset when you

10159
09:03:57,000 --> 09:04:00,200
see it that's not just that's not just being avoidant that could be that that

10160
09:04:00,200 --> 09:04:03,640
is quite the opposite that can be a way of dealing with the problem is I don't

10161
09:04:03,640 --> 09:04:06,360
want to see this name here anymore I'm gonna add it to the auto modulus so that

10162
09:04:06,360 --> 09:04:09,720
I don't see anymore being avoidant would be it comes up in chat it kind of

10163
09:04:09,720 --> 09:04:12,240
actually knows you see it and so you just like don't address it or deal with it

10164
09:04:12,240 --> 09:04:15,200
or pretend to notice it at all and you just try to like ignore it actually

10165
09:04:15,200 --> 09:04:18,160
de-listed or auto modding in your chat is not and that's not an avoidant thing I

10166
09:04:18,160 --> 09:04:21,480
hate this person oh my god I hate this person so much for the purposes of this

10167
09:04:21,480 --> 09:04:28,080
stream I'm gonna remove that because that's what I'm discussing like I like

10168
09:04:28,080 --> 09:04:31,000
yeah but there's a person they wrong me so much and now I don't talk to the

10169
09:04:31,000 --> 09:04:34,440
person and I blocked them everywhere that's not avoidant avoiding them is not

10170
09:04:34,440 --> 09:04:38,040
of that's not technically avoidant avoidant generally say somebody's avoidant

10171
09:04:38,040 --> 09:04:40,200
you mean that they're avoiding confronting their problems they're avoiding like

10172
09:04:40,200 --> 09:04:43,840
dealing with their problems or solving their problems it's so just for the

10173
09:04:43,840 --> 09:04:47,480
purposes of the stream they're not probably gonna go

10174
09:04:50,840 --> 09:04:55,920
what is this I didn't this is not what I asked for who linked me this

10175
09:05:00,000 --> 09:05:03,080
(keyboard clicking)

10176
09:05:05,280 --> 09:05:07,080
- I'm at once, Miss Fittain, thank you, got it.

10177
09:05:07,080 --> 09:05:10,760
Who's got the, I need a fish torture clip.

10178
09:05:13,840 --> 09:05:15,700
- The fish torture clip?

10179
09:05:17,280 --> 09:05:19,480
- Oh my God, he linked this, I'm sorry, he linked this

10180
09:05:19,480 --> 09:05:21,800
because it was about, he linked that

10181
09:05:21,800 --> 09:05:24,440
because it was about his son abusing his dog fish.

10182
09:05:24,440 --> 09:05:26,080
I'm so sorry, bro, that's not what I was talking about.

10183
09:05:26,080 --> 09:05:27,400
I'm sorry, I'll unban you though.

10184
09:05:27,400 --> 09:05:28,720
I understand why you linked that.

10185
09:05:28,720 --> 09:05:31,740
'Cause fish torture thing can mean multiple fish.

10186
09:05:31,740 --> 09:05:33,760
- Did she abuse a fish?

10187
09:05:33,760 --> 09:05:37,280
- Hold on, my bad dude, Jesus, what a fucking world

10188
09:05:37,280 --> 09:05:40,760
we living right now, oh my God, fucking kill me dude.

10189
09:05:40,760 --> 09:05:43,480
- Are you talking about like a glub, glub fish?

10190
09:05:46,340 --> 09:05:47,180
- Hold on.

10191
09:05:59,560 --> 09:06:01,400
(keyboard clicking)

10192
09:06:01,400 --> 09:06:03,040
- I can tell you from the time I killed my fish

10193
09:06:03,040 --> 09:06:07,200
when I was a kid, so I had a beta fish

10194
09:06:07,200 --> 09:06:12,200
that was gifted to me by a cousin when I was like 10.

10195
09:06:13,160 --> 09:06:14,680
And I feel like that's kind of a fucked up gift

10196
09:06:14,680 --> 09:06:16,600
because one, I don't know how to take care of fish.

10197
09:06:16,600 --> 09:06:18,480
- Why did you give to your responsibility?

10198
09:06:18,480 --> 09:06:19,920
- Yeah, and what was really fucked up

10199
09:06:19,920 --> 09:06:24,640
was the container, it was like as big as this.

10200
09:06:24,640 --> 09:06:26,840
And she was like here, just put the fish in here,

10201
09:06:26,840 --> 09:06:27,680
put some water in it.

10202
09:06:27,680 --> 09:06:29,920
- And that was it, the ice cream container.

10203
09:06:29,920 --> 09:06:32,160
- Yeah, and then after a couple of months of feeding,

10204
09:06:32,160 --> 09:06:34,660
I got bored, so I started torturing the fish

10205
09:06:34,660 --> 09:06:39,040
with a straw, where I'd seen it against the side

10206
09:06:39,040 --> 09:06:42,400
of the container with the straw and rip its fins out.

10207
09:06:42,400 --> 09:06:43,400
- Holy, the ants.

10208
09:06:43,400 --> 09:06:44,240
- Yeah, and then--

10209
09:06:44,240 --> 09:06:45,400
- Oh my God.

10210
09:06:45,400 --> 09:06:47,400
- It would still struggle to swim,

10211
09:06:47,400 --> 09:06:49,320
and I would keep it alive, and it was swimming

10212
09:06:49,320 --> 09:06:52,640
with its fucked up fins, and then eventually,

10213
09:06:52,640 --> 09:06:53,520
I just took it out of the water

10214
09:06:53,520 --> 09:06:55,760
and just started ripping the fins out of it straight up,

10215
09:06:55,760 --> 09:06:57,720
and then flushed it down the toilet.

10216
09:07:01,200 --> 09:07:02,720
- Which is, I think--

10217
09:07:02,720 --> 09:07:05,280
- Why is she sitting there like something went wrong

10218
09:07:05,280 --> 09:07:06,120
in my life?

10219
09:07:06,120 --> 09:07:06,960
- Oh, loud.

10220
09:07:06,960 --> 09:07:09,080
- And then when I think back to it,

10221
09:07:09,080 --> 09:07:11,880
I was never taught to be--

10222
09:07:11,880 --> 09:07:12,720
- I never saw this.

10223
09:07:12,720 --> 09:07:14,840
- Nobody ever told me not to do that.

10224
09:07:16,840 --> 09:07:21,800
- Well, I don't know if that's, I don't know.

10225
09:07:21,800 --> 09:07:26,760
- I feel like you intuitively arrived

10226
09:07:26,760 --> 09:07:30,480
at not one by one fucking the kind of--

10227
09:07:30,480 --> 09:07:31,320
- How old was she?

10228
09:07:31,320 --> 09:07:34,320
Was she like three years old, or was she above the age

10229
09:07:34,320 --> 09:07:36,120
of four or five?

10230
09:07:36,120 --> 09:07:38,720
- Didn't she say she was 10, 10th birthday?

10231
09:07:38,720 --> 09:07:40,640
- I didn't listen to the beginning.

10232
09:07:40,640 --> 09:07:43,120
I didn't clog into how important this would be.

10233
09:07:43,120 --> 09:07:45,040
I thought she was just gonna say that she didn't give it

10234
09:07:45,040 --> 09:07:48,400
a big enough tank, not that she fucking went in with a straw

10235
09:07:48,400 --> 09:07:51,080
and was pinning it to the side of its little cage

10236
09:07:51,080 --> 09:07:52,280
and ripping its fins out.

10237
09:07:52,280 --> 09:07:53,800
What the fuck is wrong with her?

10238
09:07:53,800 --> 09:07:54,640
- I felt--

10239
09:07:54,640 --> 09:07:55,480
- She was 10 or 12?

10240
09:07:55,480 --> 09:07:56,800
- She was like, hit in a tie.

10241
09:07:56,800 --> 09:07:59,720
It was a very strange feeling where you kind of knew

10242
09:07:59,720 --> 09:08:02,120
it was wrong, but also felt really good.

10243
09:08:02,120 --> 09:08:03,120
- Sure.

10244
09:08:03,120 --> 09:08:05,040
But what was good about it?

10245
09:08:05,040 --> 09:08:08,480
- That it was something that you shouldn't be doing.

10246
09:08:08,480 --> 09:08:10,120
- So it was almost like you were limit testing.

10247
09:08:10,120 --> 09:08:12,240
- In a way, but then I was like,

10248
09:08:13,320 --> 09:08:17,800
but why do I keep wanting to dive into this feeling?

10249
09:08:17,800 --> 09:08:19,840
I mean, I was 10.

10250
09:08:19,840 --> 09:08:20,680
- Yeah.

10251
09:08:20,680 --> 09:08:23,920
- You're like, you're very confused as a kid when you're 10

10252
09:08:23,920 --> 09:08:25,440
and you come to the strange--

10253
09:08:25,440 --> 09:08:28,040
- No, I actually don't think that you're confused

10254
09:08:28,040 --> 09:08:30,240
at all the average child at that age.

10255
09:08:30,240 --> 09:08:32,360
I don't think the average child at that age

10256
09:08:32,360 --> 09:08:35,320
is going around torturing small animals.

10257
09:08:35,320 --> 09:08:39,760
Some children are, and those children are at higher risk.

10258
09:08:39,760 --> 09:08:41,360
- Growing up and becoming socialist.

10259
09:08:41,360 --> 09:08:42,200
Yep.

10260
09:08:42,200 --> 09:08:43,040
- Yeah.

10261
09:08:43,040 --> 09:08:44,480
- And take a social personality disorder.

10262
09:08:44,480 --> 09:08:45,320
- I mean, it wasn't just that.

10263
09:08:45,320 --> 09:08:49,880
I had other, my friend had a pet hamster

10264
09:08:49,880 --> 09:08:51,960
and every time I went over to her place

10265
09:08:51,960 --> 09:08:54,040
and she went upstairs and she wasn't looking,

10266
09:08:54,040 --> 09:08:57,120
I would pick up my hamster and throw it against its cage.

10267
09:08:57,120 --> 09:08:59,920
But it wasn't like, it didn't throw that hard.

10268
09:08:59,920 --> 09:09:01,320
I would just fling it.

10269
09:09:01,320 --> 09:09:02,160
- My friend--

10270
09:09:02,160 --> 09:09:03,400
- Okay.

10271
09:09:03,400 --> 09:09:04,240
I'm sorry.

10272
09:09:04,240 --> 09:09:05,080
- She really fucked up.

10273
09:09:05,080 --> 09:09:06,040
- I banned the other guy

10274
09:09:06,040 --> 09:09:08,040
'cause I was still looking for the fish torture clip

10275
09:09:08,040 --> 09:09:09,320
and that was this,

10276
09:09:09,320 --> 09:09:11,200
and the other guy was trying to link me stuff out of this

10277
09:09:11,200 --> 09:09:13,280
because Hassan's dog was named fish.

10278
09:09:13,280 --> 09:09:14,120
- You know.

10279
09:09:14,120 --> 09:09:14,960
- My bad, okay.

10280
09:09:14,960 --> 09:09:17,600
- Bro tip named his dog fish.

10281
09:09:17,600 --> 09:09:20,560
- I never understood what they were talking about.

10282
09:09:20,560 --> 09:09:23,000
I've been out in that bullpen a million times

10283
09:09:23,000 --> 09:09:23,920
and I couldn't figure,

10284
09:09:23,920 --> 09:09:25,240
that's a dog they're talking about?

10285
09:09:25,240 --> 09:09:26,640
- Yeah, it's a dog named fish.

10286
09:09:26,640 --> 09:09:27,600
- Oh my God.

10287
09:09:28,600 --> 09:09:29,640
- You think you're confused.

10288
09:09:29,640 --> 09:09:31,120
My kids are like, what?

10289
09:09:31,120 --> 09:09:32,320
(laughing)

10290
09:09:32,320 --> 09:09:35,680
And then, just to fight with them more,

10291
09:09:35,680 --> 09:09:37,440
Bro tip who is their cousin, right?

10292
09:09:37,440 --> 09:09:38,440
- Right.

10293
09:09:38,440 --> 09:09:40,400
- Says, no, no, he's not a dog, he's a lion.

10294
09:09:40,400 --> 09:09:41,240
- Oh.

10295
09:09:41,240 --> 09:09:45,280
- So my four-year-old's like fish,

10296
09:09:45,280 --> 09:09:47,960
the lion who's a dog.

10297
09:09:47,960 --> 09:09:48,800
(laughing)

10298
09:09:48,800 --> 09:09:51,440
- That's poor child, oh my God.

10299
09:09:51,440 --> 09:09:52,880
- It doesn't really matter 'cause he doesn't wanna be

10300
09:09:52,880 --> 09:09:54,280
in the same room with him no matter what.

10301
09:09:54,280 --> 09:09:55,880
That dog scares the shit out of my toes.

10302
09:09:55,880 --> 09:09:56,720
- Oh really?

10303
09:09:56,720 --> 09:09:58,160
The one that's always whining out there.

10304
09:09:58,160 --> 09:09:59,600
- Yeah, the pit bull, yes.

10305
09:09:59,600 --> 09:10:00,440
The pit bull.

10306
09:10:00,000 --> 09:10:06,060
Scared the young children. Yeah, no, that dog does wine a lot. I always think it's being mistreated, but it's just sitting there

10307
09:10:06,060 --> 09:10:08,060
No, it's just copying it

10308
09:10:10,920 --> 09:10:13,820
Or shadowing, you know, oh that makes sense

10309
09:10:14,700 --> 09:10:17,880
Hassan and I shared share shared something

10310
09:10:22,280 --> 09:10:24,280
You know

10311
09:10:29,160 --> 09:10:31,620
We're done. This is over right. She's done talking about this

10312
09:10:33,880 --> 09:10:38,800
That is really really really sweet. Thank you. You're also one of the most most welcome people I've ever seen in my life

10313
09:10:38,800 --> 09:10:42,520
I always tell my friends about how graceful you are when you speak about things so much

10314
09:10:43,040 --> 09:10:45,200
Protect your mental health girl. I'm sure I just wanted to talk

10315
09:10:45,320 --> 09:10:49,080
You know, I think it's actually so because everybody's different everybody processes differently for some people

10316
09:10:49,080 --> 09:10:54,920
It helps to talk about things for some people it doesn't I think for me, you know, I usually nobody says this ever by the way

10317
09:10:55,440 --> 09:11:00,600
Talking about things does not mean broadcasting them to the public on social media. Nobody will ever tell you that this is a good idea ever

10318
09:11:00,720 --> 09:11:04,880
Should we talk about things in therapy? I have many many many times for this in particular

10319
09:11:04,880 --> 09:11:07,920
I just got to a point where it felt like it would be nice to talk to my community about it, too

10320
09:11:08,240 --> 09:11:10,240
And I think I have a right to do that

10321
09:11:14,880 --> 09:11:19,420
It's up with the weirdest fuck ebonics. I don't know every time like some of these streamers they act playful

10322
09:11:19,420 --> 09:11:24,320
They just start speaking in like AAV because I think they view black people as being infantile like they are

10323
09:11:24,320 --> 09:11:27,560
So they just like co-op the language and then do that and it's like goofy and cute funny

10324
09:11:27,560 --> 09:11:31,600
Then they go back honestly, maybe Valkyrie's take was right and they shouldn't use it at all because every time they do it

10325
09:11:31,600 --> 09:11:33,600
They're always like acting actually drives me fucking crazy, but

10326
09:11:34,880 --> 09:11:38,360
Hey, y'all, what do I know about thing? I need to learn some shit. She's killing me, bro

10327
09:11:39,160 --> 09:11:40,160
Y'all

10328
09:11:40,160 --> 09:11:44,360
Ebonics isn't that country? Well, what do you think about it comes from the south?

10329
09:11:46,680 --> 09:11:50,680
Slavery each slavery from the south. Yeah

10330
09:11:51,920 --> 09:11:55,360
No, but countries like white people going like yee-haw

10331
09:11:56,120 --> 09:12:01,440
Yeah, they said yee-haw when they were riding their horses and last one black folk

10332
09:12:04,320 --> 09:12:08,440
No, that's not a bomb. I'm being so serious. Oh my gosh. Yeah

10333
09:12:13,120 --> 09:12:18,360
Yes, we're really fun to have my own IG DMs as a safe space for me

10334
09:12:19,720 --> 09:12:22,880
How do you predict your mental health when things like this happen it is so violent as female crater. It happens to me too

10335
09:12:22,880 --> 09:12:28,360
I never get over it. That's what I mean. Like if someone also get over it very quickly. I'm so happy for you for me

10336
09:12:28,360 --> 09:12:32,800
Unfortunately, it's still affecting me even three years later. I wish it was in the case as for your mental health

10337
09:12:34,040 --> 09:12:38,280
You got a log off what you need to and you need to have a life outside of this if this is your life

10338
09:12:38,280 --> 09:12:41,480
Then it feels especially detrimental, but at least when it gets overwhelming I can

10339
09:12:42,360 --> 09:12:45,160
Has the name been removed from auto mod at least for this stream

10340
09:12:45,160 --> 09:12:50,500
I just unfortunately sometimes people come in and they're like, oh, it's about this person and I don't I also don't want to perpetuate any misinformation

10341
09:12:50,960 --> 09:12:52,960
Okay, thank you mods. Appreciate ya

10342
09:12:57,320 --> 09:12:59,680
Therapy isn't supposed to bear your feelings. It's supposed to make you comfortable in them

10343
09:12:59,680 --> 09:13:03,840
That's what you did. You're my room. Oh stop. Don't make me cry, but I agree like I'm sorry

10344
09:13:03,840 --> 09:13:09,160
Who is the one talking about fucking parasocial shit earlier? It was a deaf and she's like, yeah, it's really uncomfortable like come

10345
09:13:09,160 --> 09:13:14,160
Well, Jesus Christ. It made me realize like therapy helped me process it, but I think it will be a

10346
09:13:14,760 --> 09:13:21,620
Sourcebot for years to come, but you know what actually even me talking about it like this shows the healing that I've done. No, it doesn't

10347
09:13:22,120 --> 09:13:26,680
The fact that I'm able to do this. No because at the time it bothered me so much. I didn't say anything

10348
09:13:28,080 --> 09:13:32,920
So I really hope that people can view it from that perspective as opposed to from the perspective of why didn't you just talk about it?

10349
09:13:32,920 --> 09:13:37,320
Then well, I'm seeing things come up now and my feelings are still coming up now

10350
09:13:37,320 --> 09:13:39,560
And at least now I have the words a little bit more than I did then

10351
09:13:41,080 --> 09:13:45,720
You can start sharing how I feel about something happening earlier this year. You're strong. I'm sending you all to love and all the support

10352
09:13:45,720 --> 09:13:49,640
I also want to say um, I think a lot of I think this might have brought up

10353
09:13:51,400 --> 09:13:57,880
Certain how do I say it maybe certain thoughts in people's minds are feelings around where should I draw boundaries about something that happened to me?

10354
09:13:57,880 --> 09:13:59,680
How do I go about my friends being friends with Bob?

10355
09:13:59,680 --> 09:14:02,040
Except no it didn't because you didn't talk about any of that ever

10356
09:14:02,040 --> 09:14:06,240
You just like set a bunch of vague shit and then you couched all and I feel statements and so now all of it's unassailable

10357
09:14:06,240 --> 09:14:10,920
And then you'd actually say anything concrete ever like these all these things would have actually been really interesting things to talk about

10358
09:14:11,080 --> 09:14:13,480
But you don't talk about any of them. I want to tell you

10359
09:14:14,760 --> 09:14:16,760
Sometimes people don't intend to

10360
09:14:17,320 --> 09:14:19,480
But sometimes people can be unintentionally considered

10361
09:14:20,440 --> 09:14:24,520
I think it's important to talk to the people that are close to about how you feel. Did she?

10362
09:14:25,480 --> 09:14:27,480
Do you think she ever communicated with

10363
09:14:27,560 --> 09:14:32,520
Cutie or Maya and she just hasn't talked about that or do you think she just want public and

10364
09:14:35,080 --> 09:14:39,080
And give them all of the opportunity and benefit of the doubt to treat you the way that you want to be treated

10365
09:14:39,720 --> 09:14:41,160
Otherwise if people don't know

10366
09:14:41,160 --> 09:14:44,360
Sometimes they hear something from someone else. I've had those conversations around like hey

10367
09:14:44,360 --> 09:14:47,640
I just want to remind you this person doesn't make me feel comfortable and that person will say to me

10368
09:14:48,040 --> 09:14:51,480
Oh, I thought everything was okay because this person said that or um

10369
09:14:52,280 --> 09:14:54,200
Well because of whatever other reasoning, right?

10370
09:14:54,200 --> 09:14:57,320
So sometimes even if it hurts, even if you don't want to dig up those experiences

10371
09:14:57,320 --> 09:14:59,800
You have to tell them no, this is how I feel and that has not changed

10372
09:15:00,000 --> 09:15:02,680
- Oh my gosh, I'm so glad you like the hair one.

10373
09:15:02,680 --> 09:15:04,940
I think it's so cute, no matter what.

10374
09:15:04,940 --> 09:15:05,860
No matter what we're discussing,

10375
09:15:05,860 --> 09:15:07,740
so hold back, what's that lipstick though?

10376
09:15:09,340 --> 09:15:10,860
Guys, if you don't draw your boundaries,

10377
09:15:10,860 --> 09:15:11,700
I'm so sorry to say this,

10378
09:15:11,700 --> 09:15:12,860
but just the way that humans function,

10379
09:15:12,860 --> 09:15:15,020
no one else is gonna do it for you.

10380
09:15:15,020 --> 09:15:16,000
But as soon as--

10381
09:15:20,460 --> 09:15:22,660
- Like, dude, I'm not trying to minimize anything,

10382
09:15:22,660 --> 09:15:24,140
but like, hold on.

10383
09:15:24,140 --> 09:15:26,100
I am an only fans creator,

10384
09:15:26,100 --> 09:15:27,660
and even when my content has been leaked

10385
09:15:27,660 --> 09:15:29,060
onto other sites or something,

10386
09:15:29,060 --> 09:15:30,720
that also feels incredibly violating.

10387
09:15:30,720 --> 09:15:32,940
At the end of the day, it all comes down to consent.

10388
09:15:32,940 --> 09:15:34,540
And if you aren't consenting something, it's wrong, dude.

10389
09:15:34,540 --> 09:15:38,380
This is a totally different type of thing.

10390
09:15:38,380 --> 09:15:42,100
Come on, are we, are we being serious right now?

10391
09:15:42,100 --> 09:15:43,220
What the fuck?

10392
09:15:43,220 --> 09:15:45,180
That's a, that's a, Jesus.

10393
09:15:46,260 --> 09:15:49,300
- As you do, you will see who respects your feelings

10394
09:15:49,300 --> 09:15:51,020
and who respects you.

10395
09:15:51,020 --> 09:15:52,540
I think it's very easy for people to be okay with you

10396
09:15:52,540 --> 09:15:54,020
when you have no boundaries.

10397
09:15:55,300 --> 09:15:57,060
But those are probably not the people who--

10398
09:15:58,540 --> 09:16:00,340
- You don't do that much of it, you know?

10399
09:16:02,260 --> 09:16:05,060
- Can you dispel the drama around Cudi's wedding situation?

10400
09:16:05,060 --> 09:16:05,900
Uh oh.

10401
09:16:05,900 --> 09:16:06,920
- But I also very much differentiate

10402
09:16:06,920 --> 09:16:09,600
like my super close friends and such.

10403
09:16:09,600 --> 09:16:10,440
- And such.

10404
09:16:12,780 --> 09:16:14,220
- This music is nice.

10405
09:16:14,220 --> 09:16:17,640
- Oh yeah, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me.

10406
09:16:17,640 --> 09:16:19,180
- You have folk-y turret.

10407
09:16:19,180 --> 09:16:20,020
- Tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me.

10408
09:16:20,020 --> 09:16:20,860
- Hold up the photo again.

10409
09:16:22,180 --> 09:16:23,020
- Sorry to shut it from me.

10410
09:16:23,020 --> 09:16:24,420
Both things can be true.

10411
09:16:24,420 --> 09:16:25,260
Thank you so much.

10412
09:16:27,340 --> 09:16:28,380
- Yeah, I don't usually wear glasses,

10413
09:16:28,380 --> 09:16:30,460
it's just when I'm on screens too much.

10414
09:16:30,460 --> 09:16:33,460
And my eyes, yeah, it'd be hurting.

10415
09:16:33,460 --> 09:16:36,220
But my prescription is like minus one.

10416
09:16:36,220 --> 09:16:39,660
So it's not so bad that I need to wear them all the time.

10417
09:16:39,660 --> 09:16:40,900
They are not, these ones aren't blue light,

10418
09:16:40,900 --> 09:16:42,980
I don't think, we're just regular glasses.

10419
09:16:46,700 --> 09:16:48,220
Is it AI or the user?

10420
09:16:48,220 --> 09:16:50,860
It's a unconscionally sexualizing someone,

10421
09:16:50,860 --> 09:16:52,300
that's the problem.

10422
09:16:52,300 --> 09:16:53,740
- No, it's not.

10423
09:16:53,740 --> 09:16:57,940
I mean like, it's non-concentually, for Jesus, it's,

10424
09:16:57,940 --> 09:16:59,340
I don't care, that.

10425
09:16:59,340 --> 09:17:03,140
- So no, it's sexualization of objectification, yeah.

10426
09:17:03,140 --> 09:17:06,340
- Yeah, like, I'm thinking right now, no, hold on,

10427
09:17:06,340 --> 09:17:07,180
that's too much.

10428
09:17:07,180 --> 09:17:08,740
But like, you can think in somebody's mind,

10429
09:17:08,740 --> 09:17:09,580
persec is in here.

10430
09:17:09,580 --> 09:17:11,020
I'm non-concentually thinking about him in my mind,

10431
09:17:11,020 --> 09:17:12,020
I'm not constantly sexualizing him.

10432
09:17:12,020 --> 09:17:14,140
But that's like, it's, I don't even know

10433
09:17:14,140 --> 09:17:16,060
if we can say this is like a bad thing.

10434
09:17:16,060 --> 09:17:18,740
Now, when you say it out loud, okay,

10435
09:17:18,740 --> 09:17:19,860
and when you're making it public,

10436
09:17:19,860 --> 09:17:21,260
well, that's a different action, okay?

10437
09:17:21,260 --> 09:17:24,420
And now you're, it's a different,

10438
09:17:24,420 --> 09:17:25,860
I don't know how to say this, it's a different action.

10439
09:17:25,860 --> 09:17:27,140
Now I'm bringing this to the public,

10440
09:17:27,140 --> 09:17:29,060
now I'm kind of like sexualizing you in a public place

10441
09:17:29,060 --> 09:17:30,780
and I'm making it more, you're issued to deal with now.

10442
09:17:30,780 --> 09:17:32,620
There's a possible ramification for you.

10443
09:17:32,620 --> 09:17:34,220
But defects are not bad because they're structuralized,

10444
09:17:34,220 --> 09:17:38,140
they're bad because they're, in a complicated way,

10445
09:17:38,140 --> 09:17:40,740
they're attacking or damaging like the control

10446
09:17:40,740 --> 09:17:42,060
that you have over the image of you

10447
09:17:42,060 --> 09:17:43,500
and the perception that you think

10448
09:17:43,500 --> 09:17:44,340
that other people should have of you.

10449
09:17:44,340 --> 09:17:46,620
It's like, imagine if somebody writes a quote saying,

10450
09:17:46,620 --> 09:17:49,660
like, I hate all black people, quoted by Stephen Bonnell,

10451
09:17:49,660 --> 09:17:50,660
and it's like, okay, well, hold on.

10452
09:17:50,660 --> 09:17:52,020
I never said that, and it feels kind of weird

10453
09:17:52,020 --> 09:17:53,380
that you're ascribing that to me,

10454
09:17:53,380 --> 09:17:54,900
and other people are having a response to that thing

10455
09:17:54,900 --> 09:17:57,980
that I didn't say, and especially around sexual things,

10456
09:17:57,980 --> 09:17:59,660
there's reasons why we don't want to feel like people

10457
09:17:59,660 --> 09:18:01,220
can take us and put us in sexual situations

10458
09:18:01,220 --> 09:18:03,260
that we don't consent to, this is,

10459
09:18:03,260 --> 09:18:06,780
it's not just, I hate everything about this stream,

10460
09:18:06,780 --> 09:18:08,620
I don't know.

10461
09:18:08,620 --> 09:18:10,260
- Is it AI or the user?

10462
09:18:10,260 --> 09:18:12,900
It's a unconscionally sexualizing someone,

10463
09:18:12,900 --> 09:18:13,820
that's the problem.

10464
09:18:13,820 --> 09:18:15,300
Girl, I'm not even on the point, yeah.

10465
09:18:15,300 --> 09:18:17,740
- If I had less than one's feet on the bus

10466
09:18:17,740 --> 09:18:20,540
and I'm like, damn, those are some sexy feet.

10467
09:18:20,540 --> 09:18:25,540
I've technically unconscionally sexualized them in my mind,

10468
09:18:25,860 --> 09:18:28,900
but it's not really a problem unless I, like,

10469
09:18:28,900 --> 09:18:30,380
am weird to them about it.

10470
09:18:30,380 --> 09:18:31,220
- Yeah, if you say something to them

10471
09:18:31,220 --> 09:18:33,220
or you make it their problem or you do it, yeah.

10472
09:18:33,220 --> 09:18:36,060
- So I think that a lot of people, women,

10473
09:18:36,060 --> 09:18:39,060
especially online, use that term, like,

10474
09:18:39,060 --> 09:18:41,140
oh, I've been non-consensually sexualized,

10475
09:18:41,140 --> 09:18:43,780
but maybe what they're meaning to say is objectified,

10476
09:18:43,780 --> 09:18:46,260
like they've been reduced to their body,

10477
09:18:46,260 --> 09:18:49,620
but sexualizing someone without their consent is normal.

10478
09:18:49,620 --> 09:18:51,980
Like, if you ever find someone hot or you're like,

10479
09:18:51,980 --> 09:18:53,300
damn, what they just did was so hot.

10480
09:18:53,300 --> 09:18:54,660
- Yeah, theoretically, you're like--

10481
09:18:54,660 --> 09:18:56,660
- Violating the consent, but it's just--

10482
09:18:56,660 --> 09:18:57,940
- You just sexualized them in your head.

10483
09:18:57,940 --> 09:19:00,980
- Yeah, such a weird way to say that, I think.

10484
09:19:00,980 --> 09:19:04,500
(speaking in foreign language)

10485
09:19:08,500 --> 09:19:10,900
- Was that AAV in French?

10486
09:19:10,900 --> 09:19:12,580
- She just snarked America.

10487
09:19:12,580 --> 09:19:14,500
She said, I don't know what's happening in America.

10488
09:19:14,500 --> 09:19:15,660
She just snarked your country.

10489
09:19:15,660 --> 09:19:17,180
- Thanks.

10490
09:19:17,180 --> 09:19:18,220
- Okay, basically something in French said,

10491
09:19:18,220 --> 09:19:19,220
if this happened in France,

10492
09:19:19,220 --> 09:19:21,820
you would be supported by all of the influencers.

10493
09:19:21,820 --> 09:19:23,900
And like, you know, they're basic.

10494
09:19:23,900 --> 09:19:24,740
- Courage to you.

10495
09:19:24,740 --> 09:19:28,660
(speaking in foreign language)

10496
09:19:31,100 --> 09:19:32,580
- I don't believe you, but okay.

10497
09:19:32,580 --> 09:19:35,380
(speaking in foreign language)

10498
09:19:35,380 --> 09:19:38,700
(speaking in foreign language)

10499
09:19:38,700 --> 09:19:40,540
(laughing)

10500
09:19:40,540 --> 09:19:44,220
(speaking in foreign language)

10501
09:19:44,220 --> 09:19:45,060
- She missed one.

10502
09:19:45,060 --> 09:19:45,900
- I don't know French, how long did she learn?

10503
09:19:45,900 --> 09:19:46,740
It's actually my first language.

10504
09:19:46,740 --> 09:19:47,580
That's why I'm fluent.

10505
09:19:47,580 --> 09:19:48,420
It's very hard to learn.

10506
09:19:48,420 --> 09:19:49,260
- That's a good thing.

10507
09:19:49,260 --> 09:19:50,100
- In your adult years.

10508
09:19:50,100 --> 09:19:51,900
But yeah, I went to a French school when I was little.

10509
09:19:51,900 --> 09:19:55,620
And then I went to a bilingual school for high school.

10510
09:19:55,620 --> 09:19:56,460
I don't know.

10511
09:19:56,460 --> 09:19:57,460
Oh, no Pixel, I don't know.

10512
09:19:57,460 --> 09:19:59,220
At least today, I don't think I have the energy to play

10513
09:19:59,220 --> 09:20:00,060
something.

10514
09:20:00,000 --> 09:20:04,080
I got my glasses from a giant vintage.

10515
09:20:04,080 --> 09:20:06,420
Oh, thank you, thank you for joining.

10516
09:20:06,420 --> 09:20:08,520
I hope you'll be back many times again.

10517
09:20:08,520 --> 09:20:11,640
[INAUDIBLE]

10518
09:20:11,640 --> 09:20:13,840
Yes, actually, thank you.

10519
09:20:13,840 --> 09:20:17,840
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]

10520
09:20:17,840 --> 09:20:19,680
[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]

10521
09:20:19,680 --> 09:20:21,200
To be honest, I know--

10522
09:20:21,200 --> 09:20:22,200
nah, let me not say this.

10523
09:20:22,200 --> 09:20:23,480
OK, what's part of your glasses?

10524
09:20:23,480 --> 09:20:24,400
Like, minus one.

10525
09:20:24,400 --> 09:20:26,200
So I can live without them.

10526
09:20:26,200 --> 09:20:27,960
But when my eyes feel very strange,

10527
09:20:27,960 --> 09:20:29,960
like, now, when I've been looking at my phone, streaming,

10528
09:20:29,960 --> 09:20:31,880
I have them all.

10529
09:20:31,880 --> 09:20:32,320
What's in book?

10530
09:20:32,320 --> 09:20:32,840
He's new to eating.

10531
09:20:32,840 --> 09:20:35,480
My love, it's so much easier to just look at it.

10532
09:20:35,480 --> 09:20:37,960
I try to just condense all the information into one place.

10533
09:20:40,560 --> 09:20:40,920
How's about?

10534
09:20:40,920 --> 09:20:41,800
He's good.

10535
09:20:41,800 --> 09:20:42,560
You know what's funny?

10536
09:20:42,560 --> 09:20:44,440
Oh, my gosh.

10537
09:20:44,440 --> 09:20:46,680
Last night, I was just hanging out before bed.

10538
09:20:46,680 --> 09:20:48,440
And I had someone, I was like, where's Bo?

10539
09:20:48,440 --> 09:20:49,120
Where's Bo?

10540
09:20:49,120 --> 09:20:50,640
Because sometimes, he's like--

10541
09:20:50,640 --> 09:20:51,320
[SCREAMS]

10542
09:20:51,320 --> 09:20:52,560
I'm not going to start growing up.

10543
09:20:52,560 --> 09:20:53,060
OK.

10544
09:20:53,060 --> 09:20:54,240
Me, God, you ain't--

10545
09:20:54,240 --> 09:20:54,600
Stop.

10546
09:20:54,600 --> 09:20:56,080
OK.

10547
09:20:56,080 --> 09:20:58,920
Mm-hm.

10548
09:20:58,920 --> 09:21:02,040
I'm surprised that when people disagree with coke

10549
09:21:02,040 --> 09:21:04,640
and stuff now, I don't see anyone saying--

10550
09:21:04,640 --> 09:21:05,320
Fuck right now.

10551
09:21:05,320 --> 09:21:06,840
--I see why her cat killed itself.

10552
09:21:06,840 --> 09:21:07,680
Stop.

10553
09:21:07,680 --> 09:21:09,240
There are people that do make that joke.

10554
09:21:09,240 --> 09:21:10,680
People online make that joke.

10555
09:21:10,680 --> 09:21:12,520
But I haven't seen anyone say that yet.

10556
09:21:12,520 --> 09:21:14,840
And I was like, I'm really happy that no one said that.

10557
09:21:14,840 --> 09:21:15,840
People have said that.

10558
09:21:15,840 --> 09:21:17,680
But that's also mean, OK.

10559
09:21:17,680 --> 09:21:18,180
Do it.

10560
09:21:18,180 --> 09:21:19,080
Yeah, I heard him.

10561
09:21:19,080 --> 09:21:19,600
I heard him.

10562
09:21:19,600 --> 09:21:22,600
I'm fucked up.

10563
09:21:22,600 --> 09:21:25,720
Trying to say, to be honest, so here's what I'll say.

10564
09:21:25,720 --> 09:21:28,880
And I don't think it should come as a surprise to anybody.

10565
09:21:28,880 --> 09:21:31,800
I saw the posts that were going viral today.

10566
09:21:31,800 --> 09:21:33,440
And again, in something that should not

10567
09:21:33,440 --> 09:21:37,440
be a surprise to anyone, I agree with them.

10568
09:21:37,440 --> 09:21:38,400
I'm not fighting.

10569
09:21:38,400 --> 09:21:41,560
I'm not pushing back on any of it.

10570
09:21:41,560 --> 09:21:43,480
Those feelings are totally valid.

10571
09:21:43,480 --> 09:21:45,640
Sincerely.

10572
09:21:45,640 --> 09:21:49,440
I have no problem with someone saying that.

10573
09:21:49,440 --> 09:21:53,760
Listen, my position from the beginning

10574
09:21:53,760 --> 09:21:57,760
is that I looked at a fucking deep fake website on January 26,

10575
09:21:57,760 --> 09:21:58,880
2023.

10576
09:21:58,880 --> 09:22:00,440
It was a bad thing to do.

10577
09:22:00,440 --> 09:22:02,320
I wish I didn't do it.

10578
09:22:02,320 --> 09:22:04,280
I've never stood up for it.

10579
09:22:04,280 --> 09:22:05,720
I've never tried to defend myself.

10580
09:22:05,720 --> 09:22:06,920
I never tried to downplay.

10581
09:22:06,920 --> 09:22:08,560
It was fucking bad.

10582
09:22:08,560 --> 09:22:11,960
And if that makes you uncomfortable or you--

10583
09:22:11,960 --> 09:22:12,880
it's totally valid.

10584
09:22:12,880 --> 09:22:13,600
It's 100% valid.

10585
09:22:13,600 --> 09:22:15,800
I've never, ever disagreed with that.

10586
09:22:15,800 --> 09:22:18,720
So what I've tried to do in the years since then,

10587
09:22:18,720 --> 09:22:21,200
because obviously I feel terrible and I don't have a time

10588
09:22:21,200 --> 09:22:21,720
machine.

10589
09:22:21,720 --> 09:22:22,760
I can't undo it.

10590
09:22:22,760 --> 09:22:24,160
It's trying to show that that is not who I am.

10591
09:22:24,160 --> 09:22:26,840
I'm trying to use my actions and time and money and effort

10592
09:22:26,840 --> 09:22:28,200
and whatever I can to show that's not who I am.

10593
09:22:28,200 --> 09:22:29,520
I'm trying to do.

10594
09:22:29,520 --> 09:22:31,600
But this is an important but is that there

10595
09:22:31,600 --> 09:22:33,440
is no Konami code for forgiveness.

10596
09:22:33,440 --> 09:22:35,000
There's no right sequence of actions that you do it.

10597
09:22:35,000 --> 09:22:36,400
And they're like, OK, nice to forgive me.

10598
09:22:36,400 --> 09:22:37,040
That's not how it works.

10599
09:22:37,040 --> 09:22:38,280
If you don't forgive me, you are fully

10600
09:22:38,280 --> 09:22:39,840
within your right to do that, you can do that forever.

10601
09:22:39,840 --> 09:22:41,760
I literally-- I'm not owed anything.

10602
09:22:41,760 --> 09:22:43,840
That is-- it's just not how it works, OK?

10603
09:22:43,840 --> 09:22:47,760
So yeah, I don't know what particularly prompted this now,

10604
09:22:47,760 --> 09:22:49,920
but it is a valid feeling whenever.

10605
09:22:49,920 --> 09:22:52,880
And I'm just doing my best in the small-- little circle I'm

10606
09:22:52,880 --> 09:22:54,160
in to rebuild trust.

10607
09:22:54,160 --> 09:22:56,360
I think of it like I send a hurricane through my own life

10608
09:22:56,360 --> 09:22:57,320
based on my own actions.

10609
09:22:57,320 --> 09:22:59,000
And I've been trying brick by brick to rebuild it.

10610
09:22:59,000 --> 09:23:00,280
That's all I'm trying to do.

10611
09:23:00,280 --> 09:23:02,080
I'm not trying to-- I've been out of drama.

10612
09:23:02,080 --> 09:23:02,760
I don't say names.

10613
09:23:02,760 --> 09:23:04,680
I am just here doing my content, doing my own thing.

10614
09:23:04,680 --> 09:23:05,800
That is literally all I'm doing.

10615
09:23:05,800 --> 09:23:08,280
So I don't appreciate being used by anyone

10616
09:23:08,280 --> 09:23:09,280
as a weapon to attack some owner.

10617
09:23:09,280 --> 09:23:10,120
That's not what I'm about.

10618
09:23:10,120 --> 09:23:11,880
This is not.

10619
09:23:11,880 --> 09:23:12,400
That's it.

10620
09:23:12,400 --> 09:23:13,880
That's my-- that is-- I don't think I much-- oh, OK.

10621
09:23:13,880 --> 09:23:15,360
Last thing I'll say is-- and I don't think

10622
09:23:15,360 --> 09:23:16,700
this is even going to happen much anymore, obviously.

10623
09:23:16,700 --> 09:23:19,880
But there's two sides of that coin though, right?

10624
09:23:19,880 --> 09:23:23,560
So forgiveness is dependent on each person.

10625
09:23:23,560 --> 09:23:25,000
Everybody has their own definition of it.

10626
09:23:25,000 --> 09:23:27,600
And if I haven't earned it with you, that is 100% your right.

10627
09:23:27,600 --> 09:23:29,600
But there are some people for whom they see my actions

10628
09:23:29,600 --> 09:23:31,760
to see what I'm doing and feel open to the idea

10629
09:23:31,760 --> 09:23:33,560
of trusting me again or giving me a shot.

10630
09:23:33,560 --> 09:23:35,800
And I do think that those people should be allowed to, like,

10631
09:23:35,800 --> 09:23:37,440
I don't know, play a game with me or invite me to something

10632
09:23:37,440 --> 09:23:38,480
without it being a big deal.

10633
09:23:38,480 --> 09:23:40,080
As long as we stay in our own lane and do our own lane,

10634
09:23:40,080 --> 09:23:41,080
I think that should be allowed.

10635
09:23:41,080 --> 09:23:42,880
Because I don't know how else to live.

10636
09:23:42,880 --> 09:23:45,360
I just think that should be allowed to exist in my own space.

10637
09:23:45,360 --> 09:23:48,200
And so that's the one thing I want to say.

10638
09:23:48,200 --> 09:23:52,560
Listen, bro, I feel like I'm watching a dude talk about why

10639
09:23:52,560 --> 09:23:54,880
he should be allowed to be accepted back into a community

10640
09:23:54,880 --> 09:23:56,240
after raping and murdering somebody.

10641
09:23:56,240 --> 09:23:57,400
That's what this sounds like.

10642
09:23:57,400 --> 09:24:03,480
If I didn't know the context, it's fucking insane.

10643
09:24:03,480 --> 09:24:06,560
It's just crazy, dude.

10644
09:24:06,560 --> 09:24:08,480
Jesus.

10645
09:24:08,480 --> 09:24:11,480
And I know I couldn't-- I saw the post and I'm

10646
09:24:11,480 --> 09:24:13,560
trying to understand what an action I can take.

10647
09:24:13,560 --> 09:24:14,880
I want to be action oriented, right?

10648
09:24:14,880 --> 09:24:16,720
So I don't know if this is the case,

10649
09:24:16,720 --> 09:24:18,480
but I was planning to go to TwitchCon this year.

10650
09:24:18,480 --> 09:24:19,160
I was on a panel.

10651
09:24:19,160 --> 09:24:20,280
I reached out this morning, and I dropped out.

10652
09:24:20,280 --> 09:24:21,760
Because I don't know if that's going to make someone

10653
09:24:21,760 --> 09:24:21,760
comfortable.

10654
09:24:21,760 --> 09:24:23,120
I feel like the only area I would go,

10655
09:24:23,120 --> 09:24:25,000
whether it be crossover, and so I'm just not going to go there.

10656
09:24:25,000 --> 09:24:25,800
And that's fine.

10657
09:24:25,800 --> 09:24:26,560
I think that's totally fine.

10658
09:24:26,560 --> 09:24:27,560
It's fine.

10659
09:24:27,560 --> 09:24:28,320
I would prefer it.

10660
09:24:28,320 --> 09:24:30,400
I'm trying to not get in the way of anything.

10661
09:24:30,400 --> 09:24:30,920
OK?

10662
09:24:30,920 --> 09:24:32,160
I'm trying to make the content that I make.

10663
09:24:32,160 --> 09:24:33,440
I have an audience that likes it.

10664
09:24:33,440 --> 09:24:35,480
I have a few close friends, and I think that's fair.

10665
09:24:35,480 --> 09:24:36,880
Anyway, that's what I'm doing.

10666
09:24:36,880 --> 09:24:40,280
I disavow anyone at all who is trying to use this stuff

10667
09:24:40,280 --> 09:24:42,280
to, like, attack people or be part

10668
09:24:42,280 --> 09:24:45,080
of a larger fucking streamer or culture war that's way above

10669
09:24:45,080 --> 09:24:46,000
my head and way outside of my zone.

10670
09:24:46,000 --> 09:24:46,880
That's not what I'm in.

10671
09:24:46,880 --> 09:24:48,040
OK?

10672
09:24:48,040 --> 09:24:48,880
That's it.

10673
09:24:48,880 --> 09:24:51,560
It's the right choice being vindictive won't help him.

10674
09:24:51,560 --> 09:24:53,440
OG Nanners, congratulations.

10675
09:24:53,440 --> 09:24:57,400
Can I give you the $4 trillion IQ award of the year?

10676
09:24:57,400 --> 09:25:01,280
You're saying that he shouldn't have gone full on hinge?

10677
09:25:00,000 --> 09:25:02,220
and shit on probably the entire time.

10678
09:25:02,220 --> 09:25:05,180
I just wanna know, first of all,

10679
09:25:05,180 --> 09:25:06,300
I can't even believe you can still type,

10680
09:25:06,300 --> 09:25:07,540
'cause you're gonna be like seven or 80 years old

10681
09:25:07,540 --> 09:25:10,540
to have acquired so much wisdom in your life

10682
09:25:10,540 --> 09:25:11,940
to just share.

10683
09:25:11,940 --> 09:25:14,300
Do you have any more wisdom that you're gonna put on us?

10684
09:25:14,300 --> 09:25:15,140
Can you drop any more?

10685
09:25:15,140 --> 09:25:20,140
Superhot takes the most annoying fucking thing

10686
09:25:20,620 --> 09:25:22,180
and it applies to half of you fucking retards

10687
09:25:22,180 --> 09:25:23,020
in my chat as well.

10688
09:25:23,020 --> 09:25:24,540
And everybody that shares my political ideology.

10689
09:25:24,540 --> 09:25:26,540
God, I need to have a fucking mega conversion.

10690
09:25:26,540 --> 09:25:28,180
Please God, please, please, please, please, please.

10691
09:25:28,180 --> 09:25:29,340
I need to convert to Christianity

10692
09:25:29,340 --> 09:25:32,220
or do something, please God, I'm gonna go mega.

10693
09:25:32,220 --> 09:25:33,780
Or Kami, whatever.

10694
09:25:33,780 --> 09:25:38,300
The theory right now of sociocultural power,

10695
09:25:38,300 --> 09:25:40,260
the way that it works, okay?

10696
09:25:40,260 --> 09:25:41,700
'Cause it's beyond political ideology

10697
09:25:41,700 --> 09:25:42,900
and it's not just political power anymore.

10698
09:25:42,900 --> 09:25:45,900
It's like a social and cultural thing

10699
09:25:45,900 --> 09:25:51,060
that masqueries as politics is using whatever

10700
09:25:51,060 --> 09:25:53,100
political power or whatever social or cultural power

10701
09:25:53,100 --> 09:25:55,140
you have to delete people from platforms

10702
09:25:55,140 --> 09:25:56,260
that aren't on your team.

10703
09:25:56,260 --> 09:25:59,300
That is exclusively the way that people practice

10704
09:25:59,300 --> 09:26:00,540
all of this online now.

10705
09:26:01,620 --> 09:26:03,860
Back when I was on Twitch, I'm a liberal.

10706
09:26:03,860 --> 09:26:06,860
I think liberals in general are very inclusive of people.

10707
09:26:06,860 --> 09:26:08,860
Even if that means you're fighting with them

10708
09:26:08,860 --> 09:26:09,860
or you're arguing with them,

10709
09:26:09,860 --> 09:26:11,060
but that's just the way that it goes.

10710
09:26:11,060 --> 09:26:11,900
You bring people into your space,

10711
09:26:11,900 --> 09:26:12,980
you argue you fight with them.

10712
09:26:12,980 --> 09:26:14,940
This is where Vash came from, right?

10713
09:26:14,940 --> 09:26:15,940
Vash wouldn't have a career if not

10714
09:26:15,940 --> 09:26:17,740
for me being a liberal and inviting him on my stream.

10715
09:26:17,740 --> 09:26:18,780
This is where Hassan came from.

10716
09:26:18,780 --> 09:26:20,460
He would not have a career in the streaming space

10717
09:26:20,460 --> 09:26:22,220
had I not created a space and brought him on his stream

10718
09:26:22,220 --> 09:26:23,060
to chat with him, right?

10719
09:26:23,060 --> 09:26:24,580
'Cause the way that liberals tend to practice,

10720
09:26:24,580 --> 09:26:27,660
I think social and cultural power is collaboratively.

10721
09:26:27,660 --> 09:26:30,140
This is why liberalism is the culture that dominates the world.

10722
09:26:30,140 --> 09:26:31,340
I think authoritarian types,

10723
09:26:31,340 --> 09:26:33,460
the way that you practice power

10724
09:26:33,460 --> 09:26:35,380
is not through a collaborative approach.

10725
09:26:35,380 --> 09:26:38,140
It is like you have to be 100% alive with my team

10726
09:26:38,140 --> 09:26:39,460
or I'll do everything I can to destroy you

10727
09:26:39,460 --> 09:26:40,700
and delete you from existence.

10728
09:26:40,700 --> 09:26:41,540
And that's it.

10729
09:26:41,540 --> 09:26:46,220
And liberals are so principled on the whole inclusion thing

10730
09:26:46,220 --> 09:26:47,260
and being kind to people

10731
09:26:47,260 --> 09:26:49,020
and not trying to destroy people's lives or whatever.

10732
09:26:49,020 --> 09:26:53,940
It's that the algorithm is so heavily exploitable.

10733
09:26:53,940 --> 09:26:56,380
And the problem is that liberals to the end of time

10734
09:26:56,380 --> 09:26:58,660
will say mindlessly retarded shit,

10735
09:26:58,660 --> 09:27:00,620
pretending like they're saying something insightful.

10736
09:27:00,620 --> 09:27:03,100
Like, oh, she's really good for her.

10737
09:27:03,100 --> 09:27:04,660
This actually really good for him.

10738
09:27:04,660 --> 09:27:05,660
Yeah, it is, I agree.

10739
09:27:05,660 --> 09:27:08,260
It's the best that he can do, but it's a losing strategy.

10740
09:27:08,260 --> 09:27:10,460
The reality is, is Pogi should be deleted

10741
09:27:10,460 --> 09:27:11,420
from the fucking internet

10742
09:27:11,420 --> 09:27:12,940
because she tried to bring something up

10743
09:27:12,940 --> 09:27:14,740
and she's using, she's teaching a whole bunch

10744
09:27:14,740 --> 09:27:16,340
of psycho-babble fucking nonsense.

10745
09:27:16,340 --> 09:27:18,460
Every single person that listened to anything she had to say

10746
09:27:18,460 --> 09:27:20,460
about anything related to therapy or mental health

10747
09:27:20,460 --> 09:27:22,140
is worse off for it and would have been better,

10748
09:27:22,140 --> 09:27:23,500
never hearing anything from it.

10749
09:27:23,500 --> 09:27:24,900
And she's only doing it to attack this person

10750
09:27:24,900 --> 09:27:26,700
because of a petty social dispute.

10751
09:27:26,700 --> 09:27:28,900
And she's doing it on the back of everything related

10752
09:27:28,900 --> 09:27:31,540
to the gender wars issues online.

10753
09:27:31,540 --> 09:27:34,420
And these all cash out in insanely real world ways, right?

10754
09:27:34,420 --> 09:27:36,820
There's a huge gender divide in our voting system right now

10755
09:27:36,820 --> 09:27:37,900
between republicans and democrats,

10756
09:27:37,900 --> 09:27:39,500
especially among young men.

10757
09:27:39,500 --> 09:27:41,100
There's a reason why so many young,

10758
09:27:41,100 --> 09:27:42,700
especially white guys on the internet,

10759
09:27:42,700 --> 09:27:44,660
but it affected a lot of young black guys too

10760
09:27:44,660 --> 09:27:46,660
with the whole red pill arc, a lot of those spaces

10761
09:27:46,660 --> 09:27:49,980
were a lot of young black people too, black men especially.

10762
09:27:49,980 --> 09:27:51,580
All of these spaces are all impacted

10763
09:27:51,580 --> 09:27:53,020
by fucking crazy people like this.

10764
09:27:53,020 --> 09:27:56,140
And the problem is that I have a lot of space

10765
09:27:56,140 --> 09:27:58,460
and compassion for people that get things wrong.

10766
09:27:58,460 --> 09:28:00,020
So if somebody was to try to venture out

10767
09:28:00,020 --> 09:28:01,780
and to have a conversation and they get it wrong,

10768
09:28:01,780 --> 09:28:03,780
they make mistakes and whatever, that's fine.

10769
09:28:03,780 --> 09:28:05,380
People fuck up, I fuck up.

10770
09:28:05,380 --> 09:28:07,100
And I don't mean to get wrong even like you're malicious,

10771
09:28:07,100 --> 09:28:08,180
but like you say something incorrect

10772
09:28:08,180 --> 09:28:09,260
or you're just not right on a thing.

10773
09:28:09,260 --> 09:28:11,700
But the problem is pokey is practicing

10774
09:28:11,700 --> 09:28:14,420
that sociocultural power of like,

10775
09:28:14,420 --> 09:28:16,340
I don't like this person because of some squabble between us

10776
09:28:16,340 --> 09:28:18,460
and I need to delete this person from the space.

10777
09:28:18,460 --> 09:28:20,540
Because if you actually thought they were bothered

10778
09:28:20,540 --> 09:28:22,180
by something, you actually thought they were looking

10779
09:28:22,180 --> 09:28:24,180
for any kind of real, amenable solution,

10780
09:28:24,180 --> 09:28:26,300
there are like 50 million other ways

10781
09:28:26,300 --> 09:28:29,060
that she could have approached the situation, right?

10782
09:28:29,060 --> 09:28:31,020
She could have tried to talk to people privately

10783
09:28:31,020 --> 09:28:32,100
to figure out something.

10784
09:28:32,100 --> 09:28:35,500
She could have reached out to Atriac

10785
09:28:35,500 --> 09:28:37,820
and said something about how she isn't comfortable

10786
09:28:37,820 --> 09:28:38,660
sharing space with her whatever

10787
09:28:38,660 --> 09:28:40,500
and she wants to do something different.

10788
09:28:40,500 --> 09:28:42,460
There's a million different ways

10789
09:28:42,460 --> 09:28:43,780
that she could have approached us, but she didn't.

10790
09:28:43,780 --> 09:28:46,380
She went, what she did was, right?

10791
09:28:46,380 --> 09:28:48,020
What did lingual little fingers say?

10792
09:28:48,020 --> 09:28:49,460
When somebody is saying something to me,

10793
09:28:49,460 --> 09:28:51,060
I like to play game right away, right?

10794
09:28:51,060 --> 09:28:54,060
If Pokey was trying to resolve this situation in a way

10795
09:28:54,060 --> 09:28:56,180
that would reduce the amount of retriggerings,

10796
09:28:56,180 --> 09:28:57,820
so how many people are talking about her deep fake porn

10797
09:28:57,820 --> 09:29:00,340
and looking it up and was trying to figure out a way

10798
09:29:00,340 --> 09:29:02,300
that allows her to exist in the space

10799
09:29:02,300 --> 09:29:04,500
without sharing space that she thought with,

10800
09:29:04,500 --> 09:29:06,900
she thought with sharing space with someone

10801
09:29:06,900 --> 09:29:09,060
that she thought she would be uncomfortable with,

10802
09:29:09,060 --> 09:29:10,220
there are so many other ways

10803
09:29:10,220 --> 09:29:11,980
I can conceive of this happening, okay?

10804
09:29:11,980 --> 09:29:14,900
If she was trying to do the maximum amount of damage

10805
09:29:14,900 --> 09:29:16,180
to somebody else's career,

10806
09:29:18,620 --> 09:29:20,220
I think this is probably the way that you would do it.

10807
09:29:20,220 --> 09:29:23,100
I can't really think of many other ways that you would do it.

10808
09:29:23,100 --> 09:29:25,540
Is you would go online, you would fake post and bring it up,

10809
09:29:25,540 --> 09:29:26,860
everybody would know what it was.

10810
09:29:26,860 --> 09:29:28,060
Every time you spoke about it,

10811
09:29:28,060 --> 09:29:30,740
you always couch things in psycho, babble, I feel,

10812
09:29:30,740 --> 09:29:32,700
these are my feelings, I'm just sharing my feelings statement.

10813
09:29:32,700 --> 09:29:34,500
So now your position is unassailable

10814
09:29:34,500 --> 09:29:36,180
'cause you're an unstoppable white woman

10815
09:29:36,180 --> 09:29:37,580
who's just like cleaning it up

10816
09:29:37,580 --> 09:29:40,580
and talking about your abuse and victimization.

10817
09:29:40,580 --> 09:29:42,260
And then you basically tell everybody else

10818
09:29:42,260 --> 09:29:43,300
that they're free to do what they want

10819
09:29:43,300 --> 09:29:44,860
because if you wanna be friends with

10820
09:29:44,860 --> 09:29:46,460
and align just over the rapist, that's totally on you

10821
09:29:46,460 --> 09:29:47,300
and I have no problem with that.

10822
09:29:47,300 --> 09:29:48,900
I will never ever hang out with you again and ever see you again

10823
09:29:48,900 --> 09:29:50,060
and I'll probably let my whole community know

10824
09:29:50,060 --> 09:29:51,500
but I think that you're probably enabling a rapist

10825
09:29:51,500 --> 09:29:54,380
but that's okay, it's insanity.

10826
09:29:55,340 --> 09:29:57,420
It's stupid.

10827
09:29:57,420 --> 09:30:00,260
And then like libs will pat themselves on the back.

10828
09:30:00,000 --> 09:30:04,980
People of this mindset of our of our social and cultural mindset will pat themselves on the back when they let

10829
09:30:05,400 --> 09:30:09,460
Cancer like what Pokemon is doing come in and exploit them and they'll go oh my god

10830
09:30:09,460 --> 09:30:16,380
Well, yeah, sure she was like a sub human disgusting degenerate piece of shit who was posting other women's like fucking deep fake porn and higher

10831
09:30:16,380 --> 09:30:20,620
Resolutions on her stream as an exhibition is so that she and the rest of her fucking audience could get off on it

10832
09:30:20,620 --> 09:30:23,860
Right, but it's okay because we were like really forgiving and we took the high road there

10833
09:30:23,860 --> 09:30:28,260
And all you're doing is you're letting yourself get exploited over and over and over and over again until what end?

10834
09:30:30,520 --> 09:30:36,820
Like it's it's the the it's not going in a good way right now in these spaces like the who like if you look on Twitch

10835
09:30:36,820 --> 09:30:40,140
And you see like who is practicing this type of like

10836
09:30:41,140 --> 09:30:45,560
Sociocultural power. It's not going in a good way. It's it's been trending in a bad direction for

10837
09:30:46,680 --> 09:30:51,060
It's been trending in a bad direction for a while and another thing that's sad and I hate

10838
09:30:51,400 --> 09:30:54,000
Because I really don't like to drag people into things that don't want to be involved in it

10839
09:30:54,000 --> 09:30:57,340
Is that and I'm only going by the limit of things that I have seen but

10840
09:30:58,360 --> 09:31:01,720
To be clear. I don't think that pokey likes it

10841
09:31:01,960 --> 09:31:05,040
I I'm being a little charitable and I say this because unfortunately I'm gonna be terrible

10842
09:31:05,040 --> 09:31:06,900
I don't think she likes when people like super sexualizer

10843
09:31:07,240 --> 09:31:12,360
But if you hold it if you had a gun to my head, I would be I would be on the I'd be on the fence

10844
09:31:12,360 --> 09:31:16,720
I wouldn't be able to give you one other sitting on it. I would bet my life that

10845
09:31:17,480 --> 09:31:21,460
Cutie and Maya don't like to be like super sexualized

10846
09:31:21,460 --> 09:31:23,600
I think that I it feels creepy

10847
09:31:23,600 --> 09:31:28,040
I was like I think Maya is a little bit more comfortable kind of with her for having any sexuality and cutie is kind of out

10848
09:31:28,040 --> 09:31:34,960
But overwhelmingly these two really really really don't want to be seen that way and what pokey is done is she's dragged this

10849
09:31:35,120 --> 09:31:37,120
Situation up from nowhere

10850
09:31:37,800 --> 09:31:42,800
Into a thing that was an insanely uncomfortable experience for a cutie and Maya

10851
09:31:42,800 --> 09:31:47,880
And now she's brought all of this up to the front for everybody to go and look up again and to know what the pictures were of again

10852
09:31:47,880 --> 09:31:53,560
She's showing the fucking picture on stream and and I just think it's she's it's it's it's worse for every

10853
09:31:53,560 --> 09:31:58,400
Single person to vote except for pokey and then her little group of degenerate disgusting fucking femme

10854
09:31:58,400 --> 09:32:02,680
Self-friends who are whatever the uncrazy mission the fish tortures and everything

10855
09:32:03,160 --> 09:32:08,180
And it's just yeah, it's just super super super gross like everything about it is so gross and disgusting and

10856
09:32:08,720 --> 09:32:12,800
Counterintuitive to everything that she's claiming to try to accomplish. It's just I

10857
09:32:14,500 --> 09:32:16,920
Do agree that this is the only thing that a track can do

10858
09:32:16,920 --> 09:32:22,800
But the reason why is because every other person in the space will allow themselves to be exploited because they can't they don't have a

10859
09:32:23,160 --> 09:32:26,040
Theory of mind for how the other people are navigating the space

10860
09:32:26,040 --> 09:32:29,640
So in their mind the only thing they can do is just keep taking the high road over and over again

10861
09:32:29,640 --> 09:32:32,680
So every other guy in this dude's friend group maybe privately say yeah that sucks

10862
09:32:32,680 --> 09:32:35,800
But they won't say anything publicly they'll let him get thrown under the bus and that was kind of move on

10863
09:32:35,800 --> 09:32:37,160
He cancels us off from pitch con or whatever

10864
09:32:37,160 --> 09:32:42,440
It's fine and then we just pray to God because now we live under the fucking thumb and the whims of pokey and caroline quan and whatever

10865
09:32:43,080 --> 09:32:47,640
You know reputation rapist exists on twitch that decide that anytime they want to push the straight-up who moves

10866
09:32:47,760 --> 09:32:51,000
Fuck atriac button. I guess they could just do it over and over again. It is fucking wild

10867
09:32:53,160 --> 09:32:58,440
Part of a larger. That's what I'm doing. I disavow anyone at all who is trying to use this stuff to like

10868
09:32:59,080 --> 09:33:03,800
Attack people or be part of a larger fucking streamer or culture war. There's way above my head and way outside of my zone

10869
09:33:03,800 --> 09:33:05,800
That's not what I'm in. Okay

10870
09:33:06,280 --> 09:33:08,280
That's it. Well, that's it. Okay, so

10871
09:33:08,680 --> 09:33:10,680
And I know there's people right now clipping this and getting ready

10872
09:33:10,760 --> 09:33:14,040
And I just can you elaborate on what you mean by pokey being okay with being super sexualized

10873
09:33:14,920 --> 09:33:18,600
No person I'm sorry. I stand tall on this. I don't give a fuck

10874
09:33:18,760 --> 09:33:22,920
There's literally nothing the God himself could come down and tell me I'm wrong and I wouldn't believe it

10875
09:33:23,160 --> 09:33:29,400
There's no person that is insanely uncomfortable with deep fake point of themselves that would show the images on stream like that

10876
09:33:29,480 --> 09:33:34,040
That's fucking crazy. That's fucking insane. That's just I don't know how else to say that

10877
09:33:34,040 --> 09:33:37,240
That's just a fucking insane thing to do. It's its exhibitionism

10878
09:33:37,240 --> 09:33:39,320
That's an a crazy crazy crazy thing to do

10879
09:33:39,400 --> 09:33:44,600
It's no reason to ever go that far and and especially a higher resolution version of what was flashed on

10880
09:33:44,920 --> 09:33:47,080
Atriac stream for all of like three frames

10881
09:33:47,800 --> 09:33:50,360
Of a 30 frame per second. That's insanity

10882
09:33:51,720 --> 09:33:54,760
Use this stuff to like attack people or be part of a larger

10883
09:33:55,160 --> 09:33:59,160
Fucking streamer or culture war that is way above my head and way outside of my zone. That's not what I'm in. Okay

10884
09:33:59,880 --> 09:34:04,520
Uh, that's it. Well, that's it. Okay, so I'm and I know there's people right now clipping this and getting ready

10885
09:34:04,920 --> 09:34:06,520
And I just I hope they can find something else to do

10886
09:34:06,520 --> 09:34:09,720
Man because I'm just trying to get back to the shit that I'm interested in. Okay, appreciate you

10887
09:34:10,280 --> 09:34:12,280
For listening to that. I really have nobody else to say on it. I

10888
09:34:12,920 --> 09:34:14,280
I think uh

10889
09:34:14,280 --> 09:34:16,760
Terrell and quan would oppose but it's great that I agree with that is fully valid

10890
09:34:17,320 --> 09:34:19,800
Okay, that's that's it. That's it for me. Um, okay

10891
09:34:20,440 --> 09:34:22,840
Great. Deep breath. Deep breath, bro

10892
09:34:24,920 --> 09:34:29,880
Stressful, bro. It's stressful. I don't um, I got you know, I'm trying to have a kid where I realized what's going on

10893
09:34:29,880 --> 09:34:32,840
I'm just trying to I'm just trying to work on a few things in my small area. I swear to god

10894
09:34:33,400 --> 09:34:35,560
Uh, okay. That is it. Um

10895
09:34:37,080 --> 09:34:39,160
You know, it's okay. This is gonna be a fucking hard pivot

10896
09:34:40,200 --> 09:34:42,520
To be hard pivot. I did not know that today would be so serious

10897
09:34:42,920 --> 09:34:49,000
Which is why I is so unfortunate that I uh made a whole soundboard based on the slower works game we were playing

10898
09:34:50,200 --> 09:34:52,200
I have a fucking script doing button

10899
09:34:55,640 --> 09:34:58,920
It's like doesn't fucking that's not good for today god damn it

10900
09:35:00,000 --> 09:35:03,480
Um, so look, uh, yeah, that's it, that's it bro, that's it.

10901
09:35:03,480 --> 09:35:05,840
And by the way, let me put a fucking timer up and you can make one of the timer while we're

10902
09:35:05,840 --> 09:35:06,840
fucking at it.

10903
09:35:06,840 --> 09:35:16,120
Uh, I, uh, oh, I am going to, oh, I have two timers now.

10904
09:35:16,120 --> 09:35:17,120
Okay.

10905
09:35:17,120 --> 09:35:18,120
Anyway.

10906
09:35:18,120 --> 09:35:27,400
I don't know why the buildings next to me are beeping, but it's kind of fucking in

10907
09:35:27,400 --> 09:35:28,400
me.

10908
09:35:28,400 --> 09:35:41,180
10,000 likes.

10909
09:35:41,180 --> 09:35:43,560
The point is your presence is triggering to many women.

10910
09:35:43,560 --> 09:35:46,360
And yeah, you're going to have to live with people not wanting you around them for the

10911
09:35:46,360 --> 09:35:50,840
rest of their life, just like some men get put on lists and can't go in your schools for

10912
09:35:50,840 --> 09:35:52,160
the rest of their lives.

10913
09:35:52,160 --> 09:35:53,160
Sorry.

10914
09:35:53,160 --> 09:36:08,360
And I'll live with our choices like,

10915
09:36:08,360 --> 09:36:27,480
Okay.

10916
09:36:27,480 --> 09:36:32,080
You participating is preventing others from participating and people are allowed to voice

10917
09:36:32,080 --> 09:36:33,600
not feeling welcome.

10918
09:36:33,600 --> 09:36:34,600
That's normal.

10919
09:36:34,600 --> 09:36:35,600
And again, none of this is their fault.

10920
09:36:35,600 --> 09:36:39,760
I think you were, you were likely allowed back in circles out of charity.

10921
09:37:05,600 --> 09:37:16,080
That's only has 3,000 likes, I don't know what this is.

10922
09:37:16,080 --> 09:37:18,240
It's very subtle, but it shows he didn't actually listen to her.

10923
09:37:18,240 --> 09:37:21,400
She said she had no problem with anyone forgiving him and interacting with him, but he keeps

10924
09:37:21,400 --> 09:37:27,640
collabing outside his area, like the nuzlocke invitational, so despite her best efforts,

10925
09:37:27,640 --> 09:37:47,120
he has to keep seeing it.

10926
09:37:47,120 --> 09:37:55,280
Okay.

10927
09:37:55,280 --> 09:38:17,060
You survived this, but barely.

10928
09:38:17,060 --> 09:38:19,800
I saw this is retarded.

10929
09:38:19,800 --> 09:38:22,800
I'm just cringy.

10930
09:38:22,800 --> 09:38:24,360
Okay.

10931
09:38:24,360 --> 09:38:28,920
Do you think that deep faking in private is like, thought crimes or what does your take

10932
09:38:28,920 --> 09:38:30,760
there?

10933
09:38:30,760 --> 09:38:39,640
Um, I don't know.

10934
09:38:39,640 --> 09:38:52,320
Um, I'm not sure, I don't know, it's a rough one, the, there's like, um, somebody drawing

10935
09:38:52,320 --> 09:38:57,480
a stick figure of me and then labeling it Steven and masturbating to it seems like it doesn't

10936
09:38:57,480 --> 09:38:58,480
matter at all.

10937
09:38:58,480 --> 09:39:02,640
Somebody creating like a fully realistic deep fake version porn of me and masturbating

10938
09:39:02,640 --> 09:39:05,160
to it, intuitively, it feels very wrong.

10939
09:39:05,160 --> 09:39:09,040
Um, I don't know that what point though that crosses a threshold.

10940
09:39:09,040 --> 09:39:14,440
Um, and I don't know why, I don't know, what do you think?

10941
09:39:14,440 --> 09:39:19,720
Um, yeah, I got the same example yesterday about like the stick figure thing.

10942
09:39:19,720 --> 09:39:23,800
I think it was back from like the lolly debate thing, but I think, yeah, like whenever you

10943
09:39:23,800 --> 09:39:28,000
get into the territory where it's like blatantly supposed to be you and your identity and like

10944
09:39:28,000 --> 09:39:33,760
as photo realistically close to like a representation of you, uh, in like a sexually compromising

10945
09:39:33,760 --> 09:39:34,760
position.

10946
09:39:34,760 --> 09:39:37,200
Yeah, at that point it crosses the line.

10947
09:39:37,200 --> 09:39:38,200
Yeah.

10948
09:39:38,200 --> 09:39:39,200
Yeah.

10949
09:39:39,200 --> 09:39:42,200
I don't know why though.

10950
09:39:42,200 --> 09:39:43,200
I'm not sure.

10951
09:39:43,200 --> 09:39:44,200
I don't know if I can articulate it.

10952
09:39:44,200 --> 09:39:48,600
I'm not even sure how much it's the photo realistic thing versus the, um, the ability to

10953
09:39:48,600 --> 09:39:49,760
generate it quickly as well.

10954
09:39:49,760 --> 09:39:50,760
I don't know.

10955
09:39:50,760 --> 09:39:55,240
Like, if somebody were to, because I thought about this, if somebody were to draw a, um,

10956
09:39:55,240 --> 09:39:59,320
like a photo realistic thing of me, it took them like fucking two weeks, but they drew

10957
09:39:59,320 --> 09:39:59,640
one.

10958
09:40:00,000 --> 09:40:02,580
It was like masturbating to it. I think it would definitely feel weird

10959
09:40:02,880 --> 09:40:08,280
But I wonder if I wonder if the deep-pig thing feels differently because somebody could literally generate like a thousand of these in like a minute

10960
09:40:08,280 --> 09:40:11,600
Or I don't know how fast it is. However the fuck because I don't know if that changes it as well

10961
09:40:12,880 --> 09:40:17,800
Like you're getting a pretty interesting conversation yesterday whenever it came to like potential for harm

10962
09:40:17,800 --> 09:40:23,760
I think that's like kind of the biggest thing that people are sort of freaked out about whenever it comes to deep-pig stuff is just like the

10963
09:40:24,520 --> 09:40:29,140
The potential for harm with it is just so much more than like it would be for like drawings or whatever

10964
09:40:29,140 --> 09:40:32,700
It's so easy to generate. It's so easy to save. It's so easy to

10965
09:40:33,460 --> 09:40:38,460
Like compile like it's just it's it's very easy to get from point A to point B on that and

10966
09:40:39,080 --> 09:40:43,600
Point B is yeah, it's like a representation that you probably don't want out there

10967
09:40:44,740 --> 09:40:47,660
Yeah, but I don't know if um like I feel like if you

10968
09:40:48,040 --> 09:40:49,800
Eliminate a lot of those things

10969
09:40:49,800 --> 09:40:54,140
This is the thing that made it challenging for me because if you eliminate a lot of the obvious things that are bad about it

10970
09:40:54,140 --> 09:40:56,680
It still feels wrong. So for instance if you say

10971
09:40:57,420 --> 09:40:59,560
Like let's say every image has to have at the bottom, right?

10972
09:40:59,560 --> 09:41:05,120
This is absolutely 100% a deep-faked image and somebody knows that it's deep-faked and like let's get rid of all the

10973
09:41:05,120 --> 09:41:08,680
Retarded things like what if they delete the water like I think it still feels wrong, right?

10974
09:41:08,680 --> 09:41:13,560
I don't know if it changes it almost at all. So many knows it is you think it still feels almost it still feels basically as wrong and

10975
09:41:14,080 --> 09:41:16,580
Then or do you agree that you do disagree with that?

10976
09:41:18,200 --> 09:41:25,180
I think intuitively yeah, but I was having a tough time explaining like why I felt like that yesterday because whenever you remove

10977
09:41:25,180 --> 09:41:28,540
Sort of everything around from it. It was very confusing to me

10978
09:41:29,180 --> 09:41:32,920
Because then I was like trying to make arguments kind of surrounding like well

10979
09:41:32,920 --> 09:41:39,600
It's like you're sort of like stealing somebody's identity and like it's somebody that like wouldn't have otherwise chose to look at this

10980
09:41:39,600 --> 09:41:39,960
themselves

10981
09:41:39,960 --> 09:41:45,000
So like I was I was having kind of a tough time explaining why it felt wrong

10982
09:41:45,000 --> 09:41:48,140
But then I was kind of like just getting like flashbacks to the

10983
09:41:48,940 --> 09:41:52,780
Fucking cursed lolly debate and I just didn't like know how to proceed

10984
09:41:55,180 --> 09:41:58,300
Yeah, I don't know if I'm

10985
09:41:58,780 --> 09:42:03,300
Wait, hold on. I didn't hear a response on do you think that putting a thing on the bottom right that that?

10986
09:42:03,940 --> 09:42:11,880
Meaningfully demonstrates that this is not real. It is deep-faked. Do you think that changes how you feel about the thing itself?

10987
09:42:13,260 --> 09:42:19,940
No, because I think it's more tied to the person rather than tied to the method of creation like I feel like as if I think that

10988
09:42:20,740 --> 09:42:22,740
If you're still using

10989
09:42:23,460 --> 09:42:26,060
Like if it's very clearly AI and it can't really be

10990
09:42:27,560 --> 09:42:33,600
Misconstrued is like a real image. I don't know if that's the only thing that I care about there like it's the the identity of the person

10991
09:42:34,500 --> 09:42:38,720
Wait, I think yeah, so I like for this. I just I feel like for a lot of people

10992
09:42:38,720 --> 09:42:43,060
I feel like it would still be almost as bad like if there was a whole bunch of deep-faked porn made of some person

10993
09:42:43,260 --> 09:42:46,900
Especially a woman and then on the bottom right of every picture like this is deep-faked. Just you know

10994
09:42:46,900 --> 09:42:48,900
I still feel like that person would feel basically

10995
09:42:50,060 --> 09:42:56,260
Basically is bad cuz do you think that the people cuz I don't think many cuz nobody going to a deep-faked site is thinking like oh my god

10996
09:42:56,260 --> 09:43:00,620
This is really them right like it's not like this hasn't become a drama yet that I'm aware of where people like oh my god

10997
09:43:00,620 --> 09:43:02,900
Paul got leap to somebody's oh no it was all deep-faked but people think it's real

10998
09:43:02,900 --> 09:43:06,580
It's just the fact that it's deep-faked is in and of itself people feel like really weird about it

10999
09:43:11,660 --> 09:43:16,460
Yeah, I think it's more that it's like the deep-faked of the person rather than it is just like it being a deep-faked

11000
09:43:17,220 --> 09:43:24,900
By itself like it's it's the deep-faked taking somebody else's identity and like using it taking their face taking like what their body is

11001
09:43:24,900 --> 09:43:26,900
supposed to look like

11002
09:43:27,140 --> 09:43:29,140
Fine-tuning it and shit, but yeah, I don't know

11003
09:43:31,860 --> 09:43:33,860
I think that's what feels off to me

11004
09:43:42,340 --> 09:43:44,340
I have a question

11005
09:43:44,740 --> 09:43:46,740
What

11006
09:43:47,780 --> 09:43:50,300
So many parts of the head this conversation last night

11007
09:43:51,140 --> 09:43:55,340
but one thing that I can't really wrap my head around is just the idea of like

11008
09:43:56,660 --> 09:43:59,140
how let's say a deep-faked was made and

11009
09:44:00,500 --> 09:44:07,300
Like there's just a zero percent chance of this ever escaping like containment from like your own personal use

11010
09:44:08,900 --> 09:44:14,660
How could houses different from like just like imagining someone like naked or ever?

11011
09:44:15,860 --> 09:44:20,860
What if you could take a photo of somebody like in the bathroom, but it would never escape your personal use is that okay?

11012
09:44:20,860 --> 09:44:24,580
Oh my god. Oh my god. They give photo somebody in the bathroom. Okay, that's different

11013
09:44:27,020 --> 09:44:29,020
Because you're violating their privacy

11014
09:44:29,740 --> 09:44:33,180
That doesn't that isn't that the whole thing about the deep-faked the deep-faked feels like a violation

11015
09:44:33,180 --> 09:44:36,700
No, it's not a violation of privacy because the image never existed in reality

11016
09:44:38,340 --> 09:44:43,980
You mean that well the thing that image is depicting never existed yes, yes, but there's an image of a thing

11017
09:44:43,980 --> 09:44:46,220
There's no there's no privacy to be violated right?

11018
09:44:46,220 --> 09:44:51,900
Like it's not like you're revealing something that this person never wanted to show like the like that it feels like it doesn't it?

11019
09:44:52,700 --> 09:44:55,180
Okay, just because it feels like it doesn't mean it is right well

11020
09:44:55,180 --> 09:45:00,020
What is but the but the that's the representation credit so like the person that is masturbating to a deep-faked

11021
09:45:00,000 --> 09:45:04,560
fake what are they masturbating to they're jerking off to the idea of seeing

11022
09:45:04,560 --> 09:45:08,400
that person naked yeah but they're seeing a thing but the reference the thing

11023
09:45:08,400 --> 09:45:12,640
that they're seeing is it's a reference of them being naked yeah but that that's

11024
09:45:12,640 --> 09:45:15,920
a reference that that other person would never want to exist but now they've

11025
09:45:15,920 --> 09:45:18,640
the other person's found a way to like hack the system and create it then it's

11026
09:45:18,640 --> 09:45:21,000
a thought crime then right because it's the same thing as be imagining them

11027
09:45:21,000 --> 09:45:24,680
naked but it's not because it exists it's something that's physical let's

11028
09:45:24,680 --> 09:45:31,080
project on the world it there is no it's not the same thing as the actual thing

11029
09:45:31,080 --> 09:45:34,800
right no but a picture is not the same thing as the actual thing it is though

11030
09:45:34,800 --> 09:45:38,040
because it's literally like a one-to-one recreation it's literally not have you

11031
09:45:38,040 --> 09:45:40,680
ever ordered something in the bay is somebody's your picture of the thing and

11032
09:45:40,680 --> 09:45:43,040
not the thing itself is a picture of a PlayStation 5 the same thing as a

11033
09:45:43,040 --> 09:45:46,320
PlayStation 5 okay wait I guess a question is a picture of a PlayStation 5 the same

11034
09:45:46,320 --> 09:45:50,160
PlayStation 5 no it's not the same thing okay it's still a bunch of privacy

11035
09:45:50,160 --> 09:45:52,680
let's say you get the information of how their nipples look or how they're

11036
09:45:52,680 --> 09:45:56,000
like nuts or just whatever any part of their body looks right like that's

11037
09:45:56,000 --> 09:46:01,840
going to be a deep fake is not gonna be able to recreate that it's gonna give

11038
09:46:01,840 --> 09:46:08,080
you like just like a it'd be a naked body that's like vaguely in reference to it

11039
09:46:08,080 --> 09:46:10,800
but like there's no new information being given out right it's the same thing

11040
09:46:10,800 --> 09:46:16,520
that your mind create does that make sense I would imagine that the harm that

11041
09:46:16,520 --> 09:46:21,760
would come from a deep fake that you create for your own personal use even if

11042
09:46:21,760 --> 09:46:26,480
in this world you could guarantee that nobody else would ever ever see it is

11043
09:46:26,480 --> 09:46:34,360
probably like even in that vacuum supporting the AI that is willing to do

11044
09:46:34,360 --> 09:46:38,120
that etc I would assume that other people that are using that service sure

11045
09:46:38,120 --> 09:46:40,960
boring well so let's assume that that's not let's assume it's not like paying

11046
09:46:40,960 --> 09:46:43,880
money into a bad system or whatever like wire drugs bad it's like because of

11047
09:46:43,880 --> 09:46:46,240
money goes to the cartels we'll assume that it's a private thing you go run or

11048
09:46:46,240 --> 09:46:48,720
your computer that doesn't support anything else it's still it still feels

11049
09:46:48,720 --> 09:46:55,680
like it feels like what some the I think the the okay here this is the the

11050
09:46:55,680 --> 09:46:59,160
feeling is that when you talk about yourself and you have an identity you

11051
09:46:59,160 --> 09:47:05,120
have a thing you've like a part your person okay it feels like you have a

11052
09:47:05,120 --> 09:47:11,120
control of like you and then like your image and that that extends a little bit

11053
09:47:11,120 --> 09:47:15,000
outside of your it feels like it extends a little bit outside of you and into the

11054
09:47:15,000 --> 09:47:18,280
mind of the people a little bit so let's assume let's say there's somebody that you

11055
09:47:18,280 --> 09:47:25,200
fucking hate okay let's assume that you hate doobie okay you know doobie right

11056
09:47:25,200 --> 09:47:30,880
yes okay let's assume that like you found out let's say that you broken a

11057
09:47:30,880 --> 09:47:33,460
doobie's house one day okay we're because we're enacting a devious plot to

11058
09:47:33,460 --> 09:47:35,760
finally take this motherfucker down but let's say we break in his house and let's

11059
09:47:35,760 --> 09:47:39,080
say that when we go into his room we find out that he's running a computer and

11060
09:47:39,080 --> 09:47:43,880
that computer is like an insanely sophisticated simulation of you as a

11061
09:47:43,880 --> 09:47:47,840
person and he's been like chatting with and playing games with you and like

11062
09:47:47,840 --> 09:47:50,680
hanging out with you for like the past year and it's like it's just it's a

11063
09:47:50,680 --> 09:47:54,960
really really really convincing like simulation of you does it feel like in

11064
09:47:54,960 --> 09:47:59,040
some way your autonomy has been like violated or something or do you are

11065
09:47:59,040 --> 09:48:03,120
you just like totally indifferent to it so so one that's already breaking the

11066
09:48:03,120 --> 09:48:06,080
rule that I just said like I'm not saying about the thing you just said

11067
09:48:06,080 --> 09:48:10,760
now that it's interacting another way I'm not sure because like it's just like

11068
09:48:10,760 --> 09:48:14,080
like imagine if like you found out okay so like imagine if like you found out

11069
09:48:14,080 --> 09:48:17,720
you've heard about like girls that like write fanfics of like their crush

11070
09:48:17,720 --> 09:48:21,320
right and like their diaries yeah or like on a Wattpad like stuff like that

11071
09:48:21,320 --> 09:48:25,560
like people are okay with that I don't really care if that were to happen so

11072
09:48:25,560 --> 09:48:28,360
like okay so that's the same thing to you as a fanfic is the same thing as a

11073
09:48:28,360 --> 09:48:33,120
defect here I'm not the exact same thing but it's like it's close enough it's the

11074
09:48:33,120 --> 09:48:36,960
same thing like I feel kind of creeped out by it but like I'm not going to be

11075
09:48:36,960 --> 09:48:42,040
like I just well I'm a guy so I can't really say this for girls probably

11076
09:48:42,040 --> 09:48:45,240
different I don't know if I can even apply it on this what then why did you

11077
09:48:45,240 --> 09:48:48,680
come here to opine on it well cuz I'm just saying you're asking you the

11078
09:48:48,680 --> 09:48:51,400
hypothetical I'm doing my answer you came in here to have a take on it now

11079
09:48:51,400 --> 09:48:54,520
you're like well I'm not a girl so who the fuck knows well my take okay again

11080
09:48:54,520 --> 09:48:57,440
that's a different question though that's if like the thing escaped

11081
09:48:57,440 --> 09:49:01,680
containment right my take is only doing it he's only doing another room you only

11082
09:49:01,680 --> 09:49:03,960
found out because you're broken and you're viewing yeah but you but you're

11083
09:49:03,960 --> 09:49:06,400
still found out though right like the idea is that there should be no

11084
09:49:06,400 --> 09:49:09,440
potential chance of it being found out like let's say there was like an

11085
09:49:09,440 --> 09:49:12,160
encrypted hard drive that could never be cracked there's no potential chance of

11086
09:49:12,160 --> 09:49:14,440
everything ever being found out then why wouldn't you care if somebody took

11087
09:49:14,440 --> 09:49:17,320
secret pictures of you and then go into them in private and nobody else ever

11088
09:49:17,320 --> 09:49:21,160
saw them or whatever because of violation of actual privacy you are the

11089
09:49:21,160 --> 09:49:24,880
violation what is a violation why is it why is it bad why is it bad to rape

11090
09:49:24,880 --> 09:49:29,320
somebody in their sleep no no no no no just why is it a violation of privacy

11091
09:49:29,320 --> 09:49:33,040
to tell me how I asked a question first you count over the question you fucking

11092
09:49:33,040 --> 09:49:35,720
retards I don't tell you gonna answer my question I'm asking you say my

11093
09:49:35,720 --> 09:49:39,920
idea I don't know the ideas I'm asking you what is the violation of privacy to

11094
09:49:39,920 --> 09:49:43,160
take a picture of somebody and drug off to the private what's the violation what

11095
09:49:43,160 --> 09:49:46,920
do you mean we say violators because this person didn't want that information

11096
09:49:46,920 --> 09:49:51,200
to be known by anybody right or at least not somebody they don't trust so it's

11097
09:49:51,200 --> 09:49:59,960
just the presence of some information that so it's like a secret by part yes

11098
09:50:00,000 --> 09:50:10,720
Okay, I disagree. I don't think that that's intuiting what people are feeling bad about then you have to then you have to feel then you have to feel like offended if somebody thinks like imagine is that you having sex with them.

11099
09:50:14,320 --> 09:50:15,080
No, I don't think so.

11100
09:50:15,080 --> 09:50:16,200
Speak for anyone.

11101
09:50:16,200 --> 09:50:17,500
Why? Why not?

11102
09:50:17,500 --> 09:50:18,000
Why?

11103
09:50:18,000 --> 09:50:26,600
But I would I wouldn't feel weird if someone was doing deep fakes of me it privately.

11104
09:50:26,900 --> 09:50:27,600
I don't know.

11105
09:50:27,600 --> 09:50:38,600
Just don't like I feel like I feel like you know no hold on I feel like that you feel that you have some control over your image over your body over who you are.

11106
09:50:38,900 --> 09:50:46,000
And if somebody else has found a way to like enjoy you in a way that you wouldn't want to make yourself available to them.

11107
09:50:46,200 --> 09:50:55,400
It feels like they've hacked the system or they've gotten or they've stolen something from you to get around something you ordinarily wouldn't want to do with them.

11108
09:50:55,600 --> 09:50:58,700
Like somehow a person is like gotten one over on you.

11109
09:50:58,800 --> 09:51:14,600
Maybe maybe other people feel feel that feeling but I don't personally feel that feeling in the same way that like I don't know what I've been sent deep fake stuff of myself and I've been sent photoshopped stuff of myself and like weird sexual things with like come edit it all over my face and stuff.

11110
09:51:14,600 --> 09:51:21,600
And what's creepy about that is like why the fuck are you sending me this like okay you can do this in your head.

11111
09:51:21,600 --> 09:51:24,800
I don't give a fuck but like you're weird as fuck.

11112
09:51:24,800 --> 09:51:29,800
Is this a reflection of how you feel about deep fake stuff or is this just you just don't really care that much.

11113
09:51:29,800 --> 09:51:38,800
Because I can sympathize with what you think is I also because I don't care that much about anything my fuck and revenge for whatever you know I don't care but I'm not sure I'm trying to figure that out myself.

11114
09:51:38,800 --> 09:51:54,600
Yeah but I think most people I think that's the uncomfortable thing is that somebody's found a way to get something out of you that you ordinarily would never grant to this other person that normally carry some level of like consensual enjoyment.

11115
09:51:54,600 --> 09:52:08,600
I'm not using a saying you're in like a rape way but like normally it's like you'd have to make available because you enjoy it and I feel like somebody's like broken the system and they've gotten something it's just not it feels like they got something out of you that they never should have had access to her never should have had a convincing copy of it created somehow.

11116
09:52:08,600 --> 09:52:13,600
Okay so what do you think of contributes in private.

11117
09:52:13,600 --> 09:52:14,600
Do you think that's morally wrong.

11118
09:52:14,600 --> 09:52:17,600
No I don't know I don't think that's any cool what do you mean.

11119
09:52:17,600 --> 09:52:22,600
Okay let's say you don't like they're just taking pictures of like somebody instagram and coming on it but they're not like publishing it or.

11120
09:52:22,600 --> 09:52:29,600
I think it probably feels gross and weird but I think the gross and weird thing there would be them sending it to you but if it's a picture that they were not sending it not sending it obviously.

11121
09:52:29,600 --> 09:52:36,600
I think if it's a picture that they've posted of themselves publicly I don't think it's the same feeling because it's a thing that they've chosen to share publicly.

11122
09:52:36,600 --> 09:52:46,600
So like it's the picture they've shared the picture publicly it's different than somebody finding a way to like seemingly undress you and then enjoy you in a way that you would never choose to make yourself available to them.

11123
09:52:46,600 --> 09:52:53,600
They're not able to do that though the A.I. is like it's like your mind is doing it right like your mind is inferring based on what they look like clothes.

11124
09:52:53,600 --> 09:52:54,600
I think that's what the A.I. is doing it.

11125
09:52:54,600 --> 09:53:11,600
I think that promos that the A.I. is like is pretty is getting like pretty convincingly close at like making decent approximations and guesses especially with women who show like a decent part of their like percentage of their body anyway that it probably feels my guess is it probably feels close.

11126
09:53:11,600 --> 09:53:22,600
The thing that I'm coming back to with his hypothetical is that if it was private and nobody knew like if someone took the time for me okay.

11127
09:53:22,600 --> 09:53:38,600
I do feel uncomfortable with the idea of certain people that I have deemed in my mind as ultra fucking creepy that I've interacted with I feel uncomfortable with the idea that I know they're out there and they're jacking their shit to me and there's nothing I can do about it.

11128
09:53:38,600 --> 09:53:53,600
But if I didn't know that okay then it couldn't possibly bother me or like if they spent time creating like a hyper ultra realistic like a homage to me a painting that looked exactly like me.

11129
09:53:53,600 --> 09:54:10,600
It would creep me out so bad if I knew that existed but if I never knew that existed would it cause harm. No I don't think inherently not unless there were other things associated with that like them treating me weirdly or posting it online.

11130
09:54:10,600 --> 09:54:24,600
I don't think that inherently them having access to this thing would cause me harm. I don't know. I don't know I could be absolutely wrong about this.

11131
09:54:24,600 --> 09:54:38,600
I think that you're getting it you're getting an unreal it's kind of related but it's a broader question of can there be a harm committed of a person if that person has no knowledge of how a person is theoretically harming them.

11132
09:54:38,600 --> 09:54:50,600
It's a separate topic and there's a ton of arguments and both sides but I think the strongest argument that I'm familiar with is that we act on a daily basis with the assumption that we have some right to or privacy of our own bodies.

11133
09:54:50,600 --> 09:54:59,600
And that if we if we knew that there were like groups of people that had the ability to access information about them we would live in different ways it would feel different.

11134
09:55:00,000 --> 09:55:03,960
Like a person who is in a room and then they act in a certain way, that person would act

11135
09:55:03,960 --> 09:55:06,280
in a different way if they knew people were watching, like if they knew what camera was

11136
09:55:06,280 --> 09:55:07,280
in there.

11137
09:55:07,280 --> 09:55:09,600
Not even saying necessarily sexually, but we just, we would have a different existence

11138
09:55:09,600 --> 09:55:13,000
and we felt like other people had access to it at all points in time, even if we never

11139
09:55:13,000 --> 09:55:15,280
met those people ever, right?

11140
09:55:15,280 --> 09:55:21,000
Like you can be in a bathroom, in an airport, or you can be in a, I don't know, you're coughing

11141
09:55:21,000 --> 09:55:24,560
or sneezing or you're, somebody has like a, you're having a conversation on the phone

11142
09:55:24,560 --> 09:55:28,320
around people and it's embarrassing, but like you're never going to see these people

11143
09:55:28,320 --> 09:55:29,560
ever again, right?

11144
09:55:29,560 --> 09:55:31,640
But nobody, but you don't really think that, you don't ever think like, well, I'm never

11145
09:55:31,640 --> 09:55:32,640
going to see these people again, so who cares?

11146
09:55:32,640 --> 09:55:33,920
I can be as embarrassing as possible.

11147
09:55:33,920 --> 09:55:37,680
You act differently when you feel like other people are watching you and yeah, so even

11148
09:55:37,680 --> 09:55:40,600
though there's not like, you can't directly see like the harm that's being committed to

11149
09:55:40,600 --> 09:55:43,960
somebody's watching that interact with you, I think there is a different feeling there

11150
09:55:43,960 --> 09:55:46,560
that would be tied to our existence that we felt like somebody else always had access

11151
09:55:46,560 --> 09:55:49,880
to us in some way that we didn't have knowledge or consent of.

11152
09:55:49,880 --> 09:55:53,840
I just don't see how that's different than like using, like imagining it, right?

11153
09:55:53,840 --> 09:55:58,160
Like your brain is always going to, everyone loves their imagination, right?

11154
09:55:58,160 --> 09:55:59,160
Yes.

11155
09:55:59,160 --> 09:56:00,160
Why?

11156
09:56:00,160 --> 09:56:02,000
Why don't you just imagine jerking up?

11157
09:56:02,000 --> 09:56:04,920
Why don't you just imagine it?

11158
09:56:04,920 --> 09:56:09,340
Well, just because like, I don't imagine the perfect woman, or whatever, right?

11159
09:56:09,340 --> 09:56:10,340
Like I, I kind of get.

11160
09:56:10,340 --> 09:56:11,340
Why not?

11161
09:56:11,340 --> 09:56:12,340
Can't you just imagine?

11162
09:56:12,340 --> 09:56:14,800
It's the same thing, right?

11163
09:56:14,800 --> 09:56:16,640
Um, no.

11164
09:56:16,640 --> 09:56:20,540
So what's the difference between imagining it and seeing porn?

11165
09:56:20,540 --> 09:56:24,240
Because with certain women, it's like the, the certain like combination of traits makes

11166
09:56:24,240 --> 09:56:25,240
them look good.

11167
09:56:25,240 --> 09:56:26,240
Okay.

11168
09:56:26,240 --> 09:56:29,680
So then, so then what's the difference between them and a fake?

11169
09:56:29,680 --> 09:56:33,560
Well, they, again, the idea fake is like, uh, it's not the same.

11170
09:56:33,560 --> 09:56:36,840
It's, it's not the information that it's like 90% isn't it?

11171
09:56:36,840 --> 09:56:37,840
It's like pretty close.

11172
09:56:37,840 --> 09:56:39,000
It's, it's whatever.

11173
09:56:39,000 --> 09:56:43,080
It's whatever you could, whatever you could get by just looking at them with clothes on.

11174
09:56:43,080 --> 09:56:44,080
What?

11175
09:56:44,080 --> 09:56:45,080
What?

11176
09:56:45,080 --> 09:56:46,080
Okay.

11177
09:56:46,080 --> 09:56:47,880
There's no new information being given out.

11178
09:56:47,880 --> 09:56:52,800
My, my, if I had to make a guess, if I had to make a guess, okay, the average like cutie

11179
09:56:52,800 --> 09:56:59,320
girl on Instagram, prob, there's probably like 85 to 90% skin coverage is probably available

11180
09:56:59,320 --> 09:57:02,440
between somebody wearing mid refs and cleavage shops or whatever, you could probably guess

11181
09:57:02,440 --> 09:57:04,680
almost every part of them is available.

11182
09:57:04,680 --> 09:57:09,040
And my guess is, is that a few things that do you think girls don't know, don't think

11183
09:57:09,040 --> 09:57:11,560
that like guys are jerking off to like their bikini photos or whatever?

11184
09:57:11,560 --> 09:57:12,560
Like what?

11185
09:57:12,560 --> 09:57:13,560
What do they have?

11186
09:57:13,560 --> 09:57:14,560
What is that?

11187
09:57:14,560 --> 09:57:15,560
I just said, what is that?

11188
09:57:15,560 --> 09:57:19,520
Like 90% of their bodies like uncovered like at that point, then yeah, like there's not

11189
09:57:19,520 --> 09:57:20,520
much left to hide.

11190
09:57:20,520 --> 09:57:21,520
Right?

11191
09:57:21,520 --> 09:57:24,700
So the AI is not going to infer much, but like again, like, have you ever had a girlfriend

11192
09:57:24,700 --> 09:57:25,700
before?

11193
09:57:25,700 --> 09:57:26,700
Yes.

11194
09:57:26,700 --> 09:57:29,920
Did she go to the, did she go to the beach in a bikini?

11195
09:57:29,920 --> 09:57:30,920
Yes.

11196
09:57:30,920 --> 09:57:34,000
If she went to the beach ass naked, would you say, Oh, well, it's fine.

11197
09:57:34,000 --> 09:57:35,000
It's the same thing.

11198
09:57:35,000 --> 09:57:36,000
What's there?

11199
09:57:36,000 --> 09:57:37,000
There's no difference between 90% of them.

11200
09:57:37,000 --> 09:57:39,000
Why the fuck did you just say 90% is available?

11201
09:57:39,000 --> 09:57:42,000
So who cares about the last 10% because they're not going to know, okay, because they're not

11202
09:57:42,000 --> 09:57:46,160
because the point is that they're not going to know like the, the AI is not going to be

11203
09:57:46,160 --> 09:57:48,280
able to figure out like the exact pixel perfect.

11204
09:57:48,280 --> 09:57:49,280
No, it's not going to.

11205
09:57:49,280 --> 09:57:50,920
Nobody jerks off to the exact pixel perfect anything.

11206
09:57:50,920 --> 09:57:51,920
No girl is pixel perfect.

11207
09:57:51,920 --> 09:57:57,280
There's sometimes a picture sucks or you might have the same thing as using my mind to like

11208
09:57:57,280 --> 09:57:58,280
infer it or what it is.

11209
09:57:58,280 --> 09:57:59,880
If you're just using your mind all the time, then who cares?

11210
09:57:59,880 --> 09:58:00,880
Why like a point at all?

11211
09:58:00,880 --> 09:58:01,880
Just use your brain.

11212
09:58:01,880 --> 09:58:02,880
And imagine everything.

11213
09:58:02,880 --> 09:58:03,880
What's the difference?

11214
09:58:03,880 --> 09:58:04,880
Right.

11215
09:58:04,880 --> 09:58:05,880
Okay.

11216
09:58:05,880 --> 09:58:06,880
Why don't I just draw what I'm thinking of?

11217
09:58:06,880 --> 09:58:07,880
Why don't you?

11218
09:58:07,880 --> 09:58:10,440
Probably because you can't because it's hard.

11219
09:58:10,440 --> 09:58:16,960
I mean, yeah, for me, but like, that's the whole point, like it's just there's nothing

11220
09:58:16,960 --> 09:58:17,960
new being shared.

11221
09:58:17,960 --> 09:58:20,240
There's no privacy being violated.

11222
09:58:20,240 --> 09:58:25,600
Why don't you say that drop like drawing with your own hand, a hyper realistic, like

11223
09:58:25,600 --> 09:58:31,120
nude photo of someone is wrong?

11224
09:58:31,120 --> 09:58:36,040
If nobody, if you could live in a world where you could ensure that nobody would ever see

11225
09:58:36,040 --> 09:58:37,040
it.

11226
09:58:37,040 --> 09:58:39,720
Like if someone, I'll use myself as an example, just because it's less harmful, but use myself

11227
09:58:39,720 --> 09:58:40,880
as an example.

11228
09:58:40,880 --> 09:58:45,120
If someone was like, Oh, I'm going to drop each completely naked, but I would never find

11229
09:58:45,120 --> 09:58:46,120
out about it.

11230
09:58:46,120 --> 09:58:48,800
Do you think that that would be causing harm?

11231
09:58:48,800 --> 09:58:49,800
Let's say I would be uncomfortable.

11232
09:58:49,800 --> 09:59:00,160
I mean, like, oh, um, it's like, I don't, I don't, I don't think so, but I, the reason

11233
09:59:00,160 --> 09:59:04,480
I struggle with like biting the bullet on it is because in your example of like someone

11234
09:59:04,480 --> 09:59:11,440
taking a photo of someone in private, that does feel so much more wrong.

11235
09:59:11,440 --> 09:59:17,240
And I don't know why, but like real, because real, I know, but because it's real, there

11236
09:59:17,240 --> 09:59:18,560
should be some other thing that I can.

11237
09:59:18,560 --> 09:59:21,120
No, it's because Israel is not a, that's not a mini violence is retarded.

11238
09:59:21,120 --> 09:59:22,120
Yeah.

11239
09:59:22,120 --> 09:59:23,120
Okay.

11240
09:59:23,120 --> 09:59:24,120
So you're violating the privacy there.

11241
09:59:24,120 --> 09:59:25,120
There you go.

11242
09:59:25,120 --> 09:59:26,120
Easy.

11243
09:59:26,120 --> 09:59:27,120
But you would never find out.

11244
09:59:27,120 --> 09:59:28,120
Right.

11245
09:59:28,120 --> 09:59:31,800
So I don't need any, nothing that you're giving me radiant is satisfying me is what I'm saying.

11246
09:59:31,800 --> 09:59:33,800
Nothing that you're giving me has satisfied me.

11247
09:59:33,800 --> 09:59:39,160
I'm, I'm living with the discomfort of having two opinions that seem to clash.

11248
09:59:39,160 --> 09:59:45,840
And I don't have a good decipherable answer yet as to why I feel like I'm holding two incompatible

11249
09:59:45,840 --> 09:59:57,560
beliefs around me.

11250
09:59:57,560 --> 09:59:58,560
That makes sense.

11251
09:59:58,560 --> 10:00:00,000
What makes sense?

11252
10:00:00,000 --> 10:00:07,200
what she said what did you say if you're not making sense you're not making

11253
10:00:07,200 --> 10:00:13,560
sense I just I just like a just to me I know I mean it makes it's why she

11254
10:00:13,560 --> 10:00:16,760
understands why she feels like that I'm just saying like that's it I'm

11255
10:00:16,760 --> 10:00:34,860
acknowledging her thank you thank you for validating me can well per sack what's

11256
10:00:34,860 --> 10:00:46,660
your big take my take is that it's wrong I use real quick for the retards and

11257
10:00:46,660 --> 10:00:52,020
chat defakes like 99% of the time defakes are bad like even like consuming

11258
10:00:52,020 --> 10:00:54,660
stuff like that because you're kind of encouraging it by like driving traffic

11259
10:00:54,660 --> 10:00:58,900
to that website and whatever encouraging the production of it but I'm just

11260
10:00:58,900 --> 10:01:05,020
saying that's morally neutral in this situation I always have to do the like

11261
10:01:05,020 --> 10:01:09,380
the soy disclosure because people are retarded okay so here's the thing I

11262
10:01:09,380 --> 10:01:13,420
think that there's a world right I think there is a world where I can agree with

11263
10:01:13,420 --> 10:01:18,180
radiant on this whenever it comes purely to like harm reduction stuff but

11264
10:01:18,180 --> 10:01:24,140
like speaking generally and then like speaking for the real world stuff I just

11265
10:01:24,140 --> 10:01:29,620
don't know if I could be convinced because I don't think it's the case that

11266
10:01:29,620 --> 10:01:33,500
the vast majority of people who are consuming deep fake content and the

11267
10:01:33,500 --> 10:01:37,420
vast majority of the people who are generating deep fake content are doing

11268
10:01:37,420 --> 10:01:43,660
it in the responsible vacuous way that we've had to carve out to make it like

11269
10:01:43,660 --> 10:01:48,820
morally acceptable for us yeah I don't think that you can never guarantee that

11270
10:01:48,820 --> 10:01:53,060
nobody will find out actually in real life and you're also supporting

11271
10:01:53,060 --> 10:01:56,700
companies well and more boring than that most likely people who are doing it are

11272
10:01:56,700 --> 10:01:58,460
probably doing it because they're just trying to sell it or make money off it

11273
10:01:58,460 --> 10:02:01,740
so they are trying to make it as widely available as possible or to harass

11274
10:02:01,740 --> 10:02:05,020
people like post it under their tweets or if there are tools like that available

11275
10:02:05,020 --> 10:02:07,740
that a landing could grab then there are probably lots of lame and also grabbing

11276
10:02:07,740 --> 10:02:11,140
those tools to use these things for harassment purposes or whatever else

11277
10:02:11,140 --> 10:02:15,980
almost certainly I feel like unironically it's like a it's like a really similar

11278
10:02:15,980 --> 10:02:19,820
argument to stuff like bump stocks and then like I don't know I'm here in like

11279
10:02:19,820 --> 10:02:26,100
Canada like automatic weapons it's like these things exist but they probably

11280
10:02:26,100 --> 10:02:31,220
shouldn't exist in places that like people don't really have any real

11281
10:02:31,220 --> 10:02:36,580
excuse to use them except for purposes that are being harmful or even if people

11282
10:02:36,580 --> 10:02:41,860
are using them in like a non harmful way the possibility for harm to take place

11283
10:02:41,860 --> 10:02:45,740
because of these things is too great that it's probably a better idea that we

11284
10:02:45,740 --> 10:02:51,860
restrict it in some way because this is why I said before about the thing where

11285
10:02:51,860 --> 10:02:56,020
where it feels like when you like if somebody were to draw a deep fake I mean

11286
10:02:56,020 --> 10:02:57,940
it takes like two weeks or something that feels different than being able to

11287
10:02:57,940 --> 10:03:01,860
generate like a thousand images or like videos and like minutes this feels like

11288
10:03:01,860 --> 10:03:05,340
something different is happening like I think that somebody could have this

11289
10:03:05,340 --> 10:03:08,940
take that I think that all drugs should be legalized because as a society we

11290
10:03:08,940 --> 10:03:12,060
shouldn't criminalize mental illness that involves addiction issues and nobody

11291
10:03:12,060 --> 10:03:14,500
would actually like abuse drugs blah blah blah blah like you might have that

11292
10:03:14,500 --> 10:03:17,340
take I think like okay cool we live in a drug where or we live in a site where

11293
10:03:17,340 --> 10:03:20,500
I'll just realize but like if it literally was like the next week there

11294
10:03:20,500 --> 10:03:24,260
was like a fentanyl seller at like the corner of every single street and you

11295
10:03:24,260 --> 10:03:27,500
could buy it for like you know cheapest fuck I think people like okay hold on

11296
10:03:27,500 --> 10:03:30,580
actually I don't know how I feel about the legalize all drugs thing because the

11297
10:03:30,580 --> 10:03:33,820
availability is become so quick and easy that I feel like this has become like a

11298
10:03:33,820 --> 10:03:38,860
different kind of thing than what I was thinking of before and the the deep fake

11299
10:03:38,860 --> 10:03:43,900
thing feels like it kind of sort of crosses into that territory somehow

11300
10:03:43,900 --> 10:03:49,660
that's too late yeah I also think it's I don't know what it is exactly but there's

11301
10:03:49,660 --> 10:03:53,420
something different and weird that happens I don't know if it's because sex is

11302
10:03:53,420 --> 10:03:59,740
generally like a consenting thing usually but it feels like something about sex

11303
10:03:59,740 --> 10:04:04,860
is different if people can enjoy doing it like thinking about you or like using

11304
10:04:04,860 --> 10:04:07,940
your image and co-opting it for it in a way that's like different from other

11305
10:04:07,940 --> 10:04:12,380
forms of engagement so like if you like some of that's like like if you're

11306
10:04:12,380 --> 10:04:16,780
playing D&D with people and you've got some person who's like fucking killing

11307
10:04:16,780 --> 10:04:19,580
your character all the time I don't know why you're pee-peeing and D&D if

11308
10:04:19,580 --> 10:04:23,860
they're doing it it's like it's annoying it's fucking whatever it's annoying but

11309
10:04:23,860 --> 10:04:26,460
if somebody is like like imagine you're playing D&D and there's like a kind of

11310
10:04:26,460 --> 10:04:29,020
girl like I'm gonna kill her character and it kills her character it's like okay

11311
10:04:29,020 --> 10:04:33,300
this is annoying and whatever but imagine I was like okay I'm gonna rape her

11312
10:04:33,300 --> 10:04:36,580
character for some reason it feels like the sexual element like transcends the

11313
10:04:36,580 --> 10:04:39,300
game and becomes something like a little bit more personal to us and it's like

11314
10:04:39,300 --> 10:04:42,100
if I'm gonna sit here and listen to you talking about how you're gonna rape my

11315
10:04:42,100 --> 10:04:45,020
D&D character it kind of sounds like you're somehow you're getting like some kind

11316
10:04:45,020 --> 10:04:48,700
of real-life sexual pleasure out of this engagement in a way that you killing my

11317
10:04:48,700 --> 10:04:52,500
character is not you getting like real-life violent engagement I don't know I

11318
10:04:52,500 --> 10:04:55,420
don't know exactly why that difference exists if it's because something about

11319
10:04:55,420 --> 10:04:59,420
sex is maybe we're usually doing it together in a fun way and now it's

11320
10:04:59,420 --> 10:05:01,940
something that's been caught up

11321
10:05:00,000 --> 10:05:05,460
But it feels like something there's something about like a sexual engagement with somebody or enjoying somebody sexually

11322
10:05:05,460 --> 10:05:07,560
That feels a little bit different than other forms of enjoyment

11323
10:05:07,560 --> 10:05:13,340
And again that deep fake thing feels like it's hacking or getting around that process somehow and in a bad way, I think

11324
10:05:15,200 --> 10:05:20,500
What does the society think okay, true like Puritanism. Yes, I

11325
10:05:22,080 --> 10:05:26,460
Mean genuine like but like come on man like in some cases

11326
10:05:26,460 --> 10:05:30,100
I feel like you know some people there's a little bit too sheltered about things or like

11327
10:05:30,600 --> 10:05:35,120
Not okay with certain parts. They're just certain things about like sexuality that they probably should be

11328
10:05:37,920 --> 10:05:40,080
Like is that is that could that not be the case?

11329
10:05:41,320 --> 10:05:45,960
Because I like I'm a guy and I don't care if someone defakes me, but like I'm probably biased

11330
10:05:46,440 --> 10:05:53,460
Let's say that someone writes out a really in-depth fanfiction about like the average person

11331
10:05:53,460 --> 10:06:01,920
You know like I was here in this Stacey. I went over to her and then I pounded her etc. etc. Super in-depth and then

11332
10:06:03,800 --> 10:06:08,500
Somehow I got leaked to the person found out. They would probably feel really fucking uncomfortable

11333
10:06:08,500 --> 10:06:15,340
But is it is it wrong to write a fan fiction about someone that's super sexual right?

11334
10:06:16,320 --> 10:06:19,020
Like I think the average person would be like what the fuck

11335
10:06:19,740 --> 10:06:22,380
like Joe that's really creepy, but like

11336
10:06:22,980 --> 10:06:24,980
Was it wrong for him to do it?

11337
10:06:25,400 --> 10:06:27,400
I mean it does it does feel

11338
10:06:27,400 --> 10:06:31,400
As somebody who've read found fit like I don't even remember the site, but I've read fanfics by myself

11339
10:06:31,400 --> 10:06:34,140
It does like I think I'm exceptionally on the side

11340
10:06:34,140 --> 10:06:35,700
It's not similar to you where it's like people do whatever

11341
10:06:35,700 --> 10:06:38,140
I don't care probably more than way more people

11342
10:06:38,140 --> 10:06:42,380
But like I could say like an ordinary person reading a fanfic of themselves in some ways

11343
10:06:42,380 --> 10:06:48,900
It's even more intimate than like porn deepfakes because you're now you're literally describing my thoughts and everything from my own perspective

11344
10:06:48,900 --> 10:06:51,740
And it's clearly not me writing it feels a little bit

11345
10:06:52,460 --> 10:06:57,340
Intrusive. Yeah, I guess I just I feel like we want to be able to be like if they never found out

11346
10:06:57,340 --> 10:06:59,420
Let's say sure if they never found out, but that's a different thing

11347
10:06:59,420 --> 10:07:03,860
But then even at that I don't know if any privacy violation theoretically matters than if nobody ever found out right?

11348
10:07:03,940 --> 10:07:09,260
But it feels like we choose to share things with other people or we choose to make things available to other people of ourselves

11349
10:07:09,260 --> 10:07:15,020
And if somebody finds a way to hack that or get around that like if I tell somebody if somebody's like begging me some annoying fuck

11350
10:07:16,380 --> 10:07:19,900
Connor's like begging me to have a fucking debate for you know months

11351
10:07:19,900 --> 10:07:23,680
And I'm just like I'm never talking to you again. I don't want to talk to you and then he finds a way to like convincingly

11352
10:07:24,100 --> 10:07:27,460
Deepfake me and then have a debate with me on a stream for an hour or two

11353
10:07:27,900 --> 10:07:33,060
Like I think I think that would annoy me. I think I'd be like I like I like I just don't I don't know

11354
10:07:33,060 --> 10:07:34,980
I feel like that would actually annoy me. I think it would be irritated

11355
10:07:35,380 --> 10:07:37,700
Because they found a way to like shortcut or hack that process

11356
10:07:37,700 --> 10:07:41,060
I was like this is not a thing I want to do you're not for some reason you found a way to do this, you know

11357
10:07:50,620 --> 10:07:52,620
You

11358
10:08:03,500 --> 10:08:10,740
Okay, fuck me dude, I was supposed to do a fucking plug for a vote thing and we didn't do this and now none of you're gonna remember to vote

11359
10:08:14,140 --> 10:08:16,140
Any final thoughts as far as sleep

11360
10:08:16,940 --> 10:08:21,100
It's too. I cannot can I deepfake you? Yeah, I got knockers on my buddy

11361
10:08:21,860 --> 10:08:24,580
Sit. All right. Be careful. I love you

11362
10:08:25,260 --> 10:08:27,260
DDL

11363
10:08:35,500 --> 10:08:37,500
You know mid-conversation

11364
10:08:37,500 --> 10:08:43,220
I got asked by someone if they could deepfake me and it was by a girl and she wanted to deepfake us together

11365
10:08:43,220 --> 10:08:45,420
And I said yes, and I just got the most wonderful

11366
10:08:46,340 --> 10:08:48,580
Jesus Christ. Oh my god

11367
10:08:54,660 --> 10:08:56,660
Love you

11368
10:09:04,100 --> 10:09:08,420
Okay, all right, no, wait, oh, what's the

11369
10:09:11,140 --> 10:09:13,900
Did he did he do it? Yeah, I feel like he did it

11370
10:09:15,580 --> 10:09:20,180
It's Netanyahu will never he's never gonna be out of office dude. How old is this motherfucker dude?

11371
10:09:30,180 --> 10:09:36,420
He's at 55% on polymarket man, they're fighting back and forth Jesus Christ

11372
10:09:45,580 --> 10:09:47,580
You

11373
10:10:00,000 --> 10:10:27,280
Jesus Christ Okay. How long do their counts normally take? I don't know if they're, I don't

11374
10:10:27,280 --> 10:10:29,200
even know what they're doing right now, but I don't know what Israel's saying. I don't

11375
10:10:29,200 --> 10:10:34,240
know if they're counting the votes right now or if it's like a matter of them figuring out

11376
10:10:34,240 --> 10:10:40,640
who's like who's going to like work with who in the coalition find it in Israel. I just

11377
10:10:40,640 --> 10:10:44,820
talk about it. I'm not sure. So good luck. Remember going to Cabo channel, Cabo channel,

11378
10:10:44,820 --> 10:10:46,380
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11379
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Cabo channel, Cabo channel, Cabo channel, Cabo channel, Cabo channel, Cabo channel, I will be back tomorrow. Be careful. Stay safe. Stop being mean or weird to women. We love women here. We should love women in your real life, especially. Yomama.

11380
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Yomama.

11381
10:11:02,200 --> 10:11:06,200
Yomama.

11382
10:11:06,200 --> 10:11:10,200
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11383
10:11:10,200 --> 10:11:14,200
Yomama.