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I just want to be a part of the meme guy. I just, I just want to be a part of the meme!

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to an emergency marketing Monday on a Thursday.

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I would like you to watch this clip with me. Do you feel betrayed by what has been happening?

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I do.

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I think in the past week, I've gotten really angry at the way the leadership of my country and certain major business executives have stabbed this guy in the back in a way that I didn't think was possible.

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I'm pretty frustrated about it, and I kind of want to explain to you what happened. Tell me to understand step-by-step almost day-by-day.

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What has happened in this period? It is like really having me scratching my head, but I'll give you a quick primer.

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A little catch up on the Ukraine war because this is a weird conflict for me because it has happened entirely during the time period that I've been streaming.

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Literally four and a half years ago, in this stream, we were playing the release of Elden Ring when live, we saw this tweet of Ukraine tweeting while being invaded.

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That the war has lasted longer than the Eastern Front of World War II. This is like a crazy situation, and you know, we know there's been destruction, we know there's been death, we know there's been military innovation, and weird progress in the drone technology.

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We covered a lot of this on the show, but I want to, like, high-level zoom out until we're out right now, and why this past week is so cool.

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Okay, we are interrupting this 8-track video that we didn't finish yesterday for emergency instrumentals. This better be good ads.

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I got tired of trying to sort my villagers out last night in bed, so I just killed every single villager that wasn't in the right bed.

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So, no, all my golems are mad at me. Sorry. Okay.

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Your meta account is here! A meta account!

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What? What is this? Is this supposed to spell something, or...?

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I can see it in your eyes that you want to get out. I can see it in your eyes that you need it right now.

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Oh, high-pargaming meme. That was not worth crazy.

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You don't know. Pure reality. Currently, Russia has about 18% of Ukraine territory.

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That's as far as they've gotten in this four and a half year war. It's taken 18%. It's roughly the size of Pennsylvania, 45,000 square miles.

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What you may not know, because it's hard to visualize or guesstimate with the progress on that, is that almost all of that progress

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happened in the first month of the war. This is territorial gains. Blue is Ukraine, red is Russia.

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Almost all that happened in the first month of the war. Since then, it's been a pretty slow crawl.

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And in recent months, like this year, it has slowed down to basically nothing.

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The Russia-Ukraine war has turned to a bloody catastrophic stalemate, where people are thrown into a meat grinder on both sides.

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It's a disaster. Okay? A pointless war for no game. One of the reasons...

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Just as a heads up, I'm not faulting a triac for this. Okay? Because I legitimately... I don't know how much you follow, like, politics stuff.

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Don't ever use the term "meat grinder." Okay? That is a ultra-Russia-coded, Russia-propaganda-coded term.

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Just don't even fucking say it. Okay? Don't say it. I don't think he's doing it intentionally at all. But just don't say it.

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That even these small gains for Russia were slowed down to the crawl this year is because of a new strategy by Ukraine.

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Really? I don't get it. Because one of the arguments that all of these fucking pro-Russia dick-sucks used to say constantly was,

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we need to do everything we can to encourage both sides to a peaceful resolution.

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They need to get to peace. Okay? Because all that's happening is all these poor, younger, crani, and men are being thrown into the meat grinder.

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That meat grinder. That meat grinder. That meat grinder. The implication being that it's just like a pointless war, basically.

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And people are just dying for no reason it's a super Russia code if I saw somebody online use the term

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meat grinder? I would just instantly assume that they're per Russia every time because it's

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that's just more often than out there. But I don't think he's using it intentionally. I just think

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I was. They have less money. They have less manpower. They have a smaller military budget,

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etc, etc. Okay, they're on the back foot against a larger power. And one reason they were able to

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have a success this year and grind this out is through not only drug technology, but specifically

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targeting energy supply lines in Russia. This has been a big strategy by Ukraine to help defend

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their sovereignty against a foreign invader. They've been striking Russian diesel refineries.

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Just as a quick thing. Okay, because you might think, Oh, we're fucking over Ukraine because we're

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not giving them interceptors or whatever. Okay, kind of, but we've actually been fucking over

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Ukraine like four million different ways. Okay, are you mad too? Yeah, I'm pissed off.

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I'm fucking over Ukraine. Oh, do not die. Why would I die? Shut up. One of the things that we heard

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early on in the war, okay, remember, is that if Ukraine even strikes into any Russian territory,

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period nuked. Yeah, nukes instantly. Everybody's going to be nuked. Everybody's going to die.

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It's going to be over instantly. Okay, this is a thing that was said constantly. And it was one of

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the big reasons given why we didn't give them more munitions early on us because they would kill

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everybody. The left got fear mockred into it. But this is again a pro Russia talking point.

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I'm also asking like Republicans, the ones like throwing this out there mainly. Yeah, yeah,

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probably. Yeah, to prevent Ukraine from fighting. But I mean, we've gotten this far in. We've seen

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massive drone strikes in Moscow and lo and behold, go fucking figure. Nobody fucking nukes anybody.

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Nobody's talking about it. There's not hasn't even been a nuclear saber rattling going on.

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Like all of that was fucking bullshit. Okay. And these things, again, again,

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and again, and again, have started to collectively take their toll on the Russian war effort. It's

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created fuel shortages and sales restrictions. And eventually, Russia had to ban diesel exports

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altogether, because they said we can't even send any out we need all the country routing problems.

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There's huge fuel lines and it has slowed down their ability to progress into Ukraine to a crawl.

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So it's been successful. Now, let's go to this week this past week because I'm recording this

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on Thursday the 15th. I'm going to start on the night in this week. So many fucking to range

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things have happened on the night starting on Friday. There was a call between Donald Trump

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and Vladimir Putin. It was for Vladimir Putin's birthday. Trump called him for the sixth time this

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year to wish him a happy birthday. And they had a long and productive call. A call apparently

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that was so good. Neither president wanted to hang up first. Okay, you hang up. No, you hang up.

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And they're going back and forth after that call. Our president, who by the way is with Mike Tyson

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for some reason, because we're an idiocracy decides to make an announcement after having that call.

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And this is his announcement. I think you heard about the oil deal with Russia. That is a big deal.

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That is massive amounts of oil coming into our country. And I want to thank

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President Putin, to be honest with you, we have massive amounts of oil being coming into

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our country. And it's diesel, which is what we want. So thank you. Okay, he announces a big deal where

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he's going to start buying Russian diesel. Now we've had American led sanctions on Russian diesel

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before. He has thrown those aside. He has given a waiver for Russia. I don't wait to sell to America,

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but to anyone for the next, I don't know, eight month period diesel. Okay, and they're going to buy

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a bunch. Mike Tyson, by the way, is standing right off screen there just just because why I don't know.

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But he said this is a big big deal. Lots of oil on the very first point. This is easy to disprove.

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The amount of oil coming in is actually very small. I think a way to frame it is if the amount of

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diesel used by the world in the day is an Olympic swimming pool, the amount of diesel we're buying

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is like a hot tub. It's just it's a drop in the bucket. It's less than 1% of one day's usage.

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It's not going to change overall diesel prices, but it is going to send a good amount of money

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direct to Putin. And it's an astonishing birthday present for Putin, because it means politically

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more than just the raw. That's it's like World War retard. You know, I said before, I was like,

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if you really think about it, we're kind of in World War three, if you like, like there's huge

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like sides lines have been drawn between the left and the right. And not I'm sorry, I shouldn't say

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left and right, but between you've got like this Iranian Russian North Korean access against kind

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of like your Saudi, Israeli, Ukrainian, US access. But it's but but also the US is funding.

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The US is funding like the Russian side as well, because now we're trying to buy oil from Russia.

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We're giving Iran access to the Strait of Hombu. It's just like

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how you have the oil being sold. Okay, it is a political signal that emboldens him that says

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what he's doing is working. It's fraying the NATO alliance. It's fraying the ability of people to

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collectively work on these sanctions against them. And it's shifting all the burden of financial

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and political support of Ukraine onto Europe. Okay, and out of American hands. Additionally,

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it's not the only deal as they are announcing this deal. I mean, American side talked about

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the diesel side, but the Russian side talked about the broader economic partnership. Putin's

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Investing guy. I forget this guy's name. I'm sorry for guys name, but Putin's investing guy said

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Uh, we are in very, very close, hourly contact with the American side on many, many business

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opportunities.

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So it's a huge economic partnership, including not just diesel, but natural gas and many

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other things they're hoping to build.

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Again, this is the beginning of a presentation.

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There's a lot more, uh, knives in the back I want to talk about, but the diesel one on

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its face is just stupid.

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I understand that Donald Trump wants to get diesel prices down before midterms, but not

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only will this not do that, it is directly sending money to Russia who is directly sending

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intelligence to Iran, which is directly leading to US troops being killed, which is

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insane.

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It's an tech to Iran where you are also fighting a war with.

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So even if you don't care about Ukraine, which you should, you are just funding your

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own opponent.

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So you have to spend more money.

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It's foolish, even on your own interests, originally, uh, Zelensky, who was asking for

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help in fighting Russia asked for more patriot and sap interceptors.

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And Trump said, no, we can't sell those to you because we need them all for the Middle

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East.

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So all of your blood and treasure is going to fight this war.

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And yet you are helping fund your opponents in that very war.

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This has been proven.

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You can find all sorts of evidence of Russia supplying Iran with Tekken and intelligence.

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So this diesel deals announced, okay.

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And Zelensky says he's careful with his words.

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He doesn't, he doesn't call Trump weak.

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He doesn't call America betraying me.

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He just says this strategy of easing sanctions has obvious weakness.

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It is going to embolden Putin, not slow him down.

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It will prolong the war, not shorten it.

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It's going to help Russia and not bring them by the peace that you're hoping for.

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Even American senators.

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And this is a bipartisan group.

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There's like six Democrats or Republicans agreed that this Russian diesel deal is a betrayal

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of Ukraine and a gift to our adversary.

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That was just one day the past week, the next day in response to Zelensky calling this week.

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Trump comes out and says this, well, I look at it differently.

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Zelensky could have settled this war many times, many, many times.

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And he chose, he chooses not to.

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It's a war that should have never been started.

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If I were president of the election, we're rigged.

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I would have been president and that war would have never started, but he could have settled

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it many times.

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And he chose not to.

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We said, you can do whatever you want to rush.

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You don't have the refineries because that's a world problem that's caused.

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And he wants to make problems for the world.

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He wants to make problems.

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Zelensky wants to make problems for the war.

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The guy who's coming and being invaded.

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It's the one that won't choose these.

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By the way, it's Zelensky's fault in Trump's mind that this war's going on.

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As far farmers, our ranchers with diesel fuel because Russia supplies a large portion

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of the diesel fuel throughout the world.

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And we told them, do whatever you want, but don't hit the diesel fuel because there's

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a big problem.

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Big joint.

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And what does he do?

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He goes and hits the diesel fuel.

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He goes and hits the refineries.

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And I said to him, do what you want.

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Don't hit refineries.

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There's plenty of targets.

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Don't hit refineries.

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And it's like if this was a movie about Russia, this is Trump is like the day you sex machina

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that is a day you sex machina is what they say right is that never ends with it's just

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constantly doing good things for Russia that shouldn't be happening that are like inexplainable

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by the story's plot and they're just like written in like Jesus.

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He went out and he and he's not going to affect our farmers and he's not going to affect

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our ranchers and he's not going to affect the rest of the world.

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So we better damn well stop.

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He better damn well stop.

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And so Trump seems to be simultaneously undercutting support for an ally, but also shifting the

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blame for rising air storage situation is crazy.

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He's a tax on the binaries.

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Now I agree.

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If that's all you care about, those attacks do not help.

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Of course, it reduces supply.

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But realistically, because this is when the strikes on refineries started and this will

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me attack the wrong and this is the rising price of diesel.

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The main culprit behind rising global diesel prices is the blockade in the straight of

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war news.

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It's not limited to these attacks in Russia.

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Yet he seems to be blaming almost entirely on him, but the worst part is underneath this

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fucking post.

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You want musk chimes in and says Zelensky has gone too far.

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Not Putin, but Zelensky has gone too far this time.

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So after this, again, after hearing that Zelensky wasn't a fan of his buying diesel from Russia,

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he says, and you know what, I suggest, I suggest they get a new leader who can make a deal

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because he could have made many deals that for some reason he never does.

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And let me go a step further, if I were presidents, I wouldn't have ever had that war.

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Okay, this is all that he goes on about Biden for a while, I guess the classic speech.

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But the main thing is that you creature get rid of Zelensky, as Zelensky responded.

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And Trump said that that we need Ukraine needs new president.

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So first of all, with all respect to President Trump, it's up to our society, up to our

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people to choose one or not a leader.

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Yes, we ain't war and now to do Alexa.

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You have to be mind melded with me.

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Sorry, hold on.

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We're moving to the astral projection part of the stream now.

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You're either here or you're not.

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I'm sorry.

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If you're not, you just need to be mind melded with me more is one person.

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Everybody should be really mad at right now.

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Oh God, you should just have a lot of anger, should have a lot of anger at one person right

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now.

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But God damn it, you okay, there's one person, you should just, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.

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That one guy with those, that stupid, ah, that guy, ah, god damn it.

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Five percent of you know who I'm talking about, okay?

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Five percent of you know who I'm talking about.

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Ah, ah, god damn it.

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This is really difficult.

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Not only that it goes absolutely not secured and it goes out of our low, out of our constitution,

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but the main thing is to stop, oh shit, hold on, let me go logging into the astral plane

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late.

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Oh, you're getting it, stop, stop, okay, you got it, stop, stop.

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But really though, fuck man, fuck, stop.

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Have security infrastructure for this, to give possibility people to vote.

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Of course it's up to Ukrainians, when to vote, how to do it and to choose one.

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It seems like a reasonable response, which is that you're in an active war where your

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people are dying and being bombed.

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Russia is a huge, uh, manipulator in elections at his right next door and has a huge vested

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interest in it.

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It probably isn't the single best time to do an election.

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He says the second there is an official peace or ceasefire within 90 days they'll do it.

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That's just the first two days, that's just, that's just Friday and Saturday.

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Then we hit Sunday, okay?

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And that is what Trump says.

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All right, here's what we're going to do.

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I'm going to unilaterally declare an energy ceasefire, but he hasn't talked to Zelensky

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or Putin about this.

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He hasn't gotten any confirmation from Russia or Ukraine.

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He just says on Sunday, energy ceasefire.

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I've declared it.

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This surprises both sides neither side, sorry, fuck, I put this stupid elitra on and now

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I'm fucking vulnerable.

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Okay.

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I'm sorry.

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Fuck the fucking guys.

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It's even heard of this idea what Trump has declared it and now it's supposed to help

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solve the problem.

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And when asked about this, he says the following that the question he's asking is you said

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Russia and Ukraine agreed to a ceasefire.

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You said Russia and Ukraine agreed to a ceasefire but both sides say they have not agreed to

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that.

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Well, they agreed.

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You know why?

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Because I said you agreed.

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That's why they agreed because I said they agreed and that thing has to get settled.

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That war is a disaster.

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Heard of the fucking deal.

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They agreed because he said so, you can count the parent strategy.

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Behind the scenes, the U.S. is not a lot of leverage over the ability of getting Russia

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to stop.

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But because they're involved in the Ukraine war effort, they were pulling levers on that

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side.

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So as part of this energy ceasefire, behind the scenes, the United States threatened to

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block arms to Ukraine.

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If they didn't participate in the energy ceasefire, they just declared.

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Additionally, in interview with Zelensky today, he says during this period, we've got our

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military people, not me personally, we've got the don't attack because maybe you will

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have problems with intelligence.

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There's like a mafia-style threat that is alleging happened that the United States said,

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hey, if you attack Russian refineries, maybe you don't get satellite intelligence.

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Maybe.

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Who knows?

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Maybe something could slip off a truck.

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Maybe something could happen.

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So we're basically threatening our allies that we will hurt their ability to fucking fight

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the war in order to help diesel prices go down for Trump's midterms.

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Now, I want to really understand what that means.

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Russia fires a lot of ballistic missiles at Ukraine.

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These periods between when it's launched and when it hits are detected by satellites.

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And these are precious minutes that make the difference between a city having an air raid

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siren going off.

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People be able to get to a bunker or get out of their homes.

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Is there a feeling getting shelled in a bunker or shelled in your bed?

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It is a huge difference.

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The intelligence is really important.

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And so far in this war, the United States, even though it's pulled back on some weaponry

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and pulled back on some funding, has provided the intelligence.

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So it has given Ukraine ample time as much time as they can get to have air raid sirens

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and react to missiles.

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So let's get to what happened Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, because these are the first three

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days these week.

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And this is when it really starts to become insane.

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Zelensky, after being pressured and saying, maybe you lose intelligence and you lose funding,

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agrees to the to this energy ceasefire, he agrees.

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Of course, somebody will say, I don't know what side, but they will say that we broke

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energy ceasefire.

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I don't want to play this game.

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Yes, we have big experience not to play this game, not to be involved.

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And that's why three days we didn't attack any energy, diesel and et cetera systems of

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Russia and three days they attack us.

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That's exactly what happened.

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In this three day period, Zelensky holds to the energy ceasefire and in this three day

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period, Russia starts striking hard.

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They start hitting specifically energy all throughout Ukraine, power plants, fuel lines,

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and so during this period, has any lefty talking about this one since it happened?

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Why the fuck would you talk about Ukraine when there's a genocide happening?

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Additionally, Zelensky notices lefties do not care lefties do not care.

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Remember, lefties don't care about Israel Palestine.

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It is a virtue signal position for them.

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It is a position that they can always use to attack anybody on the left.

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That's it.

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They don't have any real policy prescriptions.

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That's why somebody made that comment in the, I think it was in the DJG subreddit.

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I've repeated it so many times because it's so true.

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Somebody who feels strongly about Ukraine and Russia asked them, you know, what, what

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we do and I'll give you like 10 things right fucking bomb Russia or like you

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know get more money to Ukraine get more arms to Ukraine you know reaffirm our

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commitment to NATO try to sanction Russia heavier obviously do as much as

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we can to cut off the ties to be Russia and Iran do what we can to be if you

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want to go really far out there negotiate something with China to isolate

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Russian war there are so many different things that I think generally speaking

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Russia Ukraine people will talk about if you want to do something for this talk

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about Israel Palestine what should we do no more relationship with Israel they

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don't even talk about helping the Palestinians you ever notice that they

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actually never ever ever they never have anything to say about even helping the

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policy they just say we shouldn't have relation with Israel because the goal

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isn't to help the Palestinians because they don't give a fuck about the

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Palestinians the goal is to weaken the United States of America and to weaken our

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relationship with our allies that's it don't give a fuck about the Palestinians

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they just care about weakening our relationship with as many people as

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possible that's it they stop receiving intelligence for some reason two

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nights in a row during massive strikes on Ukrainian energy they stop receiving

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the warnings and so people die that wouldn't have died these intelligence

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gaps lead to real death they don't get these precious meds they don't get this

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warning and so people die there are I think a hundred plus civilian deaths in

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these strikes and then 600,000 are without power I can go through many

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screenshots it's horrific dude and it happens because there is the intelligence

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for some reason doesn't happen now when they ask about it because obviously

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Ukraine is freaked out they're angry and they're freaked out they've held the

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energy ceasefire without warning the intelligence hasn't been provided their

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official response is that it was a technical glitch that it was cloud cover

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or something that they know it wasn't our fault we didn't we we just didn't know

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and when Trump is asked about he says no worries have we stopped sharing it

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tells me no we haven't we helped that but we're really helping them get to a

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final answer we want the war end is Peter helping them we are helping them and we

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are sharing it we want the war to end so we're working with them and with Russia

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but getting the war to end uh-huh and maybe that's believable but I am

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pressing X to doubt because first of all not only is the timing so incredibly

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suspicious but additionally the US has done this before at this time they didn't

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deny it in March of last year after this famous meeting the you haven't even said

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thank you once the US officially said they were pausing intelligence sharing

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with Ukraine and they did it and then eventually they went back to getting

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intelligence but like they've done it before they've made sure on this before

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so it's very weird to threaten it again and then say all this time it was just

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cloud cover but there's a third thing on top of all this is the third knife in

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the back this past week against all happening at once and that's with

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Starlink so if you guys don't know Starlink is pretty incredible

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oh shit it's beaming the internet down

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oh gee from SpaceX Elon Musk company and it's used a lot in Ukraine it's

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extremely important to their war effort specifically the military grade version

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of Starlink called star shield this is a Ukrainian military soldier setting up

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a Starlink satellite they need to help guide their interceptor drones that

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defend the country right now this program is paid for in full by Poland

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Poland just again whatever okay but like there is a world where the United

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States hasn't been constantly undermined by both foreign powers and its own

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people where you just have and maybe historians I don't even know if we can

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but like you can talk about even in 2020 even in the 2020s you have this

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undeniable domination of liberal globalist capitalist technology okay in a

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breakneck record speed time we created a historic and amazing vaccine to deal

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with COVID-19 it was insanely quick because of the culmination of 30 40

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years of research because of the culmination of multiple companies around

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the world because of technological engineering feats to manufacture things

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that could never be manufactured in the past I'm only talking about these like

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the nano lipid particles okay and then on top of that you also have all the

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things going on with SpaceX you have this satellite internet thing where there

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are rockets that are being shut up every fucking day shooting a million of these

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fucking satellites all over the planet okay to give you really good internet

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speed okay around the entire fucking world it's these are amazing tech feats

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of technology that have come from the United States of America and not only

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are we not even allowed to take credit for them or talking about them because

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everything everybody says about the United States just has to be bad it just

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has to be negative over and over and over again the people at the helm of these

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things hate our country and they use them for evil deeds Donald Trump won't take

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credit for warp speed he can't because all of his fan base is fucking anti-vaxxers

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and Elon and the Starlink and Starship have been weaponized so much and in a

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bad direction that is just like

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when pays for Ukraine Starlink subscription the US did pay to help set it

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up and Poland pays for the ongoing fees okay it's paid it's paid in full they're

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not it's like it's like it's like again like we the United States now

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Will admit okay. It is a bit arbitrary to say who won the space race

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Okay, cuz I'm pretty sure it was like I think Russia got the first thing into the into space

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I think they got the first person into space the first animal whatever

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But we got we got the first person on the moon. Okay, but hey, you know what?

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Fuck them. Okay

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To go from having the astronauts

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From the United States of America be the first person first people on the moon

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Okay, to our wonderful space program to the Apollo missions and everything else

462
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,780
To then having to send our astronauts up to our international space station

463
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,960
using

464
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,400
Chinese and Russian rockets for decades is

465
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,500
Kind of fucking sad. Okay, and then we have the

466
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:45,960
Then we have the fuck I don't know what the name of the ship is the whatever

467
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:51,760
I think they're also space X or whatever but the now we can send our astronauts up our own spaceships now, right?

468
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,840
Oh, no only Russian our Chinese one on our own spaceships. Okay, that's pretty cool

469
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,200
but everything is so

470
00:30:58,780 --> 00:31:01,180
Politicized in the worst way we cannot talk

471
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,960
positively

472
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,680
About anything and it drives me crazy

473
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:14,080
Charity thing they are paying for it and Ukraine needs it to run their war effort all of their interceptor drones require it

474
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,360
An official system also do you see that the codepink lady Hassan went to Cuba with his Iranian asset?

475
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,360
No, I would have to dig into it out. I don't I don't trust anything from the State Department even for people that I hate

476
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,200
I don't trust them

477
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,200
But I mean

478
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,120
If I mean maybe maybe we'll look into it today

479
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,400
I just hate him. I just can't believe that that man

480
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,360
That man that damn man, and we'll never know what he was thinking

481
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,840
We can never know

482
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:58,180
That that Starlink is being used on the interceptor drones that Ukraine uses to take down Russian

483
00:31:58,180 --> 00:32:04,440
So I don't always try drones these jets powered Shahid drones again the level of drone technology

484
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:11,360
Talk about a lot is is so advanced in this war every month Ukraine and Russia leapfrog ahead of each other in different advancements in drone tech

485
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:17,480
So having high-speed internet and the latest tech on this is really important because there's jet-powered drones trying to kill people

486
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,480
I also I just cannot imagine. It's just so stupid. It really is

487
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Bigger tree just draws the worst minds

488
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:35,280
Okay, maybe in the future the thing that I think like minorities or whatever should be worried about is like an intelligent bigoted person

489
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,520
Maybe there's like some archetype for this

490
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,880
We have a guy who's actually like really bigoted

491
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:45,200
But he's actually like really smart and this would maybe be the end of fucking minorities because he would he would be able to apply his big

492
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,340
Tree in good ways, but like it's just never that people who are bigoted are always fucking

493
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,960
Retarded watching. I don't know if Germany would have ever won the nuclear arms race

494
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:02,920
But I do know that their feelings towards Jewish scientists absolutely set them the fuck back

495
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:09,480
I do know that the Soviets feelings about I don't think they call it quite Jew science

496
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,960
But there were a lot of roofs of anti-Semitism when they embarked on their weird anti-science bullshit

497
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:19,860
And then to see in the United States we did this big war against you not Ukraine

498
00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:20,840
We did this big kind of error

499
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,920
We did this big war against Iran because we wanted to do whatever the fuck to them

500
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:30,760
Imagine if we would have done all of that imagine if we would have done all of our strikes all of our whatever the fuck Trump wants to accomplish

501
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:36,800
Imagine we did all of that with the drone technology that we learned from cooperating heavily with Ukraine imagine

502
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,140
How much cheaper it would have been imagine how much more effective it could have been imagine the continuous pressure

503
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,480
Right now that I'm advocating for the fucking war in Iran

504
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,440
I'm just saying that if you wanted to do it imagine all the lessons we could have learned from Ukraine and Russia

505
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:56,760
If Trump would have been involved in it, and it's just like it's so it's so fucking stupid. It's just so stupid

506
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:08,440
These are plain launched of Howard drums, okay all of a sudden in this three-day period by the way back in August

507
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:17,260
Zelensky literally gave Elon Musk the Ukraine medal of freedom or whatever for how important Star Lake is to their war effort and yet in this three-day period suddenly

508
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,840
I don't know if it's fair to say anti-Semitism has been traditionally a mainstay in the intellectual elite

509
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,880
Universities journalism, etc. It's my people are attracted to certain conspiracies

510
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,680
That's my number one is really in YouTube chat

511
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,160
In the past they were yeah, but I feel like the

512
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,320
That is true actually in the past well

513
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,880
I don't know what changed well what changed about today's anti-Semites because I really do feel like I

514
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,040
Feel like I've met smarter race it like if you were to give me like a list of your

515
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,600
Vices of the retarded things you believe in like if you are

516
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,920
Well, actually, you know what hold on let me qualify I

517
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,240
I bet there are flavors of anti-Semitism

518
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,880
that more intelligent people can be attracted to.

519
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,040
But I find that the anti-Semitism that exists today,

520
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,460
especially on the left,

521
00:35:08,460 --> 00:35:11,300
is like bottom of the barrel retard anti-Semitism.

522
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:13,160
Actually, maybe that's why anti-Semitism is so prevalent.

523
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,040
It's because you can have so many different levels of it.

524
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,000
Like an intelligent person could be anti-Semitic

525
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,840
such that I notice that there are a lot of Jewish people

526
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,040
that have allegiances to their country of Israel

527
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,240
and their Jewish culture.

528
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:25,280
And these people, wherever they go around the world,

529
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,760
end up very successful.

530
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,320
And in subtle ways, they always move society

531
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,120
in a direction that will always be benefit.

532
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,080
Like, I bet there's like an intelligent,

533
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,280
like an intelligently coded anti-Semitic view you could have.

534
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,900
And then there's like the retard anti-Semitism.

535
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:40,000
It's like, I can't date women

536
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,880
because Jews push porn in society

537
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,280
in order to weaken my ability to date women

538
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,680
because I'm too busy masturbating all the time.

539
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,240
And it was a Jew that made porn, right?

540
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:48,880
Maybe.

541
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,000
- Our link starts getting throttled for Ukrainian drones.

542
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,120
Suddenly, they're interceptors.

543
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,120
It doesn't work on anything that goes

544
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,320
over a certain miles per hour.

545
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,280
Like a specific barrier, suddenly it stops working.

546
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,800
This is what someone's scared to say.

547
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,120
- It helps because we use some interceptors

548
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,080
with Starlings to defend judges because they're very quick.

549
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,320
So it's two different issues.

550
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,800
When you think about intelligence,

551
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,960
yes, they said that we had some technical problems.

552
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,160
Now it will work, but half of the night,

553
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,160
it again didn't work.

554
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,080
It's a busy, but they said it's technical problem.

555
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,040
But about Starlink, I mean, we are professionals.

556
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,920
We understand what's going on.

557
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,880
If you're losing the speed, so it's a bit of Starlink.

558
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,120
So we understand what's going on.

559
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,520
So they switched off to it.

560
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,160
It's their decision.

561
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,800
- What is your message to Elon Musk?

562
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,040
- Now it's a big mistake, a lot of losses.

563
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,560
This decision will bring a lot of human losses.

564
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,880
- People are dying because of his decision.

565
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,600
- Of course, people will die.

566
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,960
Of course, if attacks will continue.

567
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,800
- Look, I'm just gonna cut it there.

568
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,600
It's so fucking disgusting, dude.

569
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,680
That's some honor.

570
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,080
- Would you admit that it's not merely stupidity

571
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,320
but a specific ideology?

572
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,040
Look at what far-right populists did to Ukraine.

573
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,160
One elected in the Netherlands,

574
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,400
tried to hold sanctions to cut aid.

575
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,520
Look at the FD platform on abandoning Ukraine

576
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,800
and propping up Russia.

577
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,240
Look at reform in RN.

578
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:59,280
50 Vans is openly anti-Nato and ran as anti-Ukraine guy in 2022.

579
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,120
Trump is not retarded.

580
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,800
He has people who possess this ideology.

581
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,640
Trump is retarded.

582
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,560
Trump is not a man of politics.

583
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,440
Nobody will ever speak historically of Trump

584
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,000
as a man who understands or possesses a mind for politics.

585
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,960
He is politically fucking retarded.

586
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,800
The people around him, I don't think,

587
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,200
are as much politically retarded.

588
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,820
But like, if you wanna talk about like,

589
00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:18,400
we don't talk about being like anti-globalist

590
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,360
or like an isolationist.

591
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,320
I think that these, I think this is stupid and short-sighted.

592
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,520
But like, you can make far more compelling arguments

593
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,840
for those ideologies, even if I think they're dumb,

594
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,720
then you can for just like the really boring versions

595
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:36,000
of bigotry, I think.

596
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,680
Elected fuck here can cause people to die

597
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,520
by throttling something they've already paid for access to.

598
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,480
That's extremely important.

599
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,560
This is an ally.

600
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,320
This is things that we've all agreed to do.

601
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,800
It is insane that innocent people are dying.

602
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,440
And this country's trying its fucking hardest

603
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,480
to fight this war.

604
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,320
And then there-

605
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,160
- I'm at this anti-Ukraine stuff.

606
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,240
It's not coming purely from retardation.

607
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:55,720
- No, I mean, I think there can be reasons

608
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:58,400
why people could be anti-Ukraine

609
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,640
that aren't like anti-Semitism

610
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,400
or bottom of the barrel retarded.

611
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,780
Sure, I mean, that's possible.

612
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,520
Was I, I don't remember why I brought this up initially.

613
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,360
Oh, I'm sorry.

614
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,040
I just got, I brought up anti-Semitism as an example

615
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,080
of a thing that probably hurt Germany,

616
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,640
I think during World War II.

617
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,600
And then compared that to Trump's weird,

618
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,760
whatever refusing to help the Ukraine is hurting us now

619
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,240
with our war with Iran.

620
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:22,320
That yeah, maybe it's not, you know what I mean.

621
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,840
Well, without on a whim,

622
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,360
throttling their service based on tweets.

623
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,120
Again, this is Elon Musk saying,

624
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,600
"Time for Zelensky to go."

625
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,560
'Cause he's the reason the slaughter continues.

626
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,400
It's crazy.

627
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,400
This is one day before something gets throttled,

628
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,360
or I just one day after actually.

629
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,240
When asked about it, because people are angry now.

630
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:37,080
Leaders are angry.

631
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,920
Senators are angry.

632
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,760
When asked about it.

633
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,000
- If I trade with these guys,

634
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,520
it increases their happiness, right?

635
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,040
They're all mad 'cause I murdered all their fucking villagers.

636
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,280
- Elon Musk said it was POTUS's choice.

637
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,200
Any limits on speed or usage are decided

638
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,440
by the US military military post.

639
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,280
He deflected.

640
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,120
That wasn't me.

641
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:56,120
It would be shocking to me that he was not aware of this choice.

642
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:58,040
Especially given that he's donating

643
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,200
so much to POTUS right now.

644
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,840
Given all this, today, or within the last 24 hours,

645
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,480
Zelensky said, "We're done.

646
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,400
"We are done trying to do this energy ceasefire

647
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,280
"that you have strong armed us into.

648
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,320
"We are being attacked.

649
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,320
"We're being throttled.

650
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,040
"We have lost access to internet and to intelligence.

651
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,280
"And you are funding the enemy we're fighting.

652
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,400
"We are not gonna participate in this energy ceasefire

653
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,000
"and they have resumed strikes on Russian refineries.

654
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,840
"And in fact, I don't know.

655
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,760
"Three hours ago, before I did this."

656
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,240
- Do you think that the Russian diesel deal

657
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:25,880
and the throttling of Starlink could classify as treason?

658
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:27,960
Treason?

659
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,960
Unfortunately, probably not.

660
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,320
I mean, maybe in a colloquial sense,

661
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,320
but like the crime of treason?

662
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,800
I mean, no, he is the president of the United States.

663
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,640
It's his call.

664
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,080
Where the fuck are all of my fucking farmers?

665
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,400
Why do I only have four farmers?

666
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,640
Bro, why is it so hard to keep track

667
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,480
of fucking villagers?

668
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,320
What the fuck?

669
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,520
- They hit another Russian refinery.

670
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,120
So there's been no progress on the goal

671
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,560
of reducing diesel prices,

672
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,720
the simple-minded midterms-oriented goal

673
00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:56,920
from Trump to reduce diesel prices.

674
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,440
And instead, you have just completely undermined an ally.

675
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,280
It's such a--

676
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,440
of short term fucked way of digging in this conflict.

677
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,640
And that brings us to today.

678
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,960
So now we're at today, all this happened

679
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,200
in like a five day period.

680
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,360
Three different back steps.

681
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,300
And I just wanna kind of explain to you.

682
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:12,840
I think I wanted to close this out by explaining to you.

683
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,680
Hey, most of you agree,

684
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,880
but maybe there's something that don't explain to you

685
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,200
why I think it's important to support Ukraine in this war.

686
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,360
Not just from an American POV,

687
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,480
but also from a European POV.

688
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,240
- And also from a human fucking world POV.

689
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:22,080
- Yes.

690
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,680
- And I don't normally do the moral angle in my content

691
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,520
'cause I don't think it's a fact.

692
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,360
- Yes, nobody gets a fuck.

693
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,800
- I think a moral POV, it should be obvious

694
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,040
that the scale of losses here is insane.

695
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,720
The scale of destruction here is insane.

696
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:33,360
It's an aggressive war by Putin.

697
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,440
He's the one who can stop it.

698
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,840
The gains he's making are nothing.

699
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,120
He's, I mean, literally from a Russian POV, this is stupid.

700
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,520
The average Russian is poorer, more disconnected,

701
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,360
more hurt from this.

702
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,200
Nobody's winning.

703
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,080
It's for one man's ego.

704
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,440
But I wanna explain why you should support it

705
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,840
from a different POV.

706
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,760
First of all, I'm a trustworthyness POV,

707
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,640
an alliance POV.

708
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,360
There was a Budapest memorandum in 1994.

709
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,800
This is when the leaders of America, Russia, and Ukraine.

710
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,320
Okay, hold on.

711
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,200
Hopefully, yeah, it's not watching,

712
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,320
so you're just gonna get mad at me.

713
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,720
Okay, the Budapest memorandum is not technically an alliance.

714
00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:05,680
Arguably, you should be careful when using this word

715
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,800
because other people will get mad at you.

716
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,640
We do not have a formal alliance with Ukraine.

717
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,040
Technically, nobody that was a signatory

718
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,120
to the Budapest memorandum has had a formal alliance.

719
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,880
It was just a, it was a guarantee not to fuck

720
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,900
with these countries.

721
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,000
Ukraine, oh my God, I don't remember.

722
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,000
It was Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and Belarus, I think, those three.

723
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,520
If they gave up old nuclear stuff

724
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,520
that the Soviet Union had in their possession,

725
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,160
but it wasn't a formal alliance

726
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,640
and there weren't technically security guarantees

727
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,560
built into it.

728
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,840
Now, this is one of the reasons why.

729
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,800
It's important to know this too

730
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,200
because it's one of the reasons why I think

731
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,560
when Zelensky, I believe, has specifically talked

732
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,800
about these things in the past,

733
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,840
that there need to be security guarantees

734
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,560
attached to these things

735
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,280
because obviously, words on paper,

736
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,440
where people are just saying, like,

737
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,680
oh yeah, we promise we won't do anything.

738
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,160
Wink, wink, nudge, that's obviously not good enough,

739
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,440
'cause it didn't work with the Budapest memorandum.

740
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,880
So if you're gonna do some kind of security thing,

741
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,200
it's gonna have to be stronger than just words

742
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,560
on paper saying we promise we won't do a thing.

743
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,800
There needs to be some kind of thing built into it.

744
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,760
Yeah, why am I bringing this up?

745
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:17,800
Yeah.

746
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,160
Oh, just because, yeah, just,

747
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,920
when you talk about the Budapest memorandum,

748
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,440
we're not technically allies.

749
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,560
There was no technical guarantees for any of this stuff,

750
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,440
so be aware of that.

751
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,560
And got together because Ukraine, at the time,

752
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,920
had the fourth largest nuclear stockpile in the world,

753
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,000
and they agreed that if Ukraine gave up its nukes,

754
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:33,920
that both sides--

755
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,600
Also, technically, technically--

756
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,560
Oh, man, dude, I'm not,

757
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,960
to any Russia, I swear to God, okay?

758
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,640
But when we say Ukraine gives up its nukes,

759
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,000
arguably, the reason why, there are two reasons.

760
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,360
One is that it's not like this was something

761
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,800
that Ukraine pursued as part of their own nuclear program,

762
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,960
and they gave back to Russia.

763
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,600
These were the old nuclear stockpiles that were owned,

764
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,240
that were created and maintained by the Soviet Union,

765
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:58,080
and then Ukraine was a Soviet state in the Soviet Union.

766
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,680
And they didn't have the, probably,

767
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,200
the ability to maintain these.

768
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,720
I don't know if they had the ability to launch them,

769
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,280
like they had access codes or whatever.

770
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,560
And so I think the entire world felt a little bit safer

771
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,720
if all of those old nuclear stockpiles went back to a power

772
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:12,280
that could actively maintain the nuclear stockpiles

773
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,320
in a single state, also, rather than it being divided

774
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,080
into separate things.

775
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,320
So I'm going to try to set in all caps.

776
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,560
Ukraine was the industrial hotbed of the USSR.

777
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,040
They could totally maintain the nukes.

778
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,120
This is not right.

779
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,360
So when I say maintain, I don't mean like they didn't

780
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,680
have the industry to do it or whatever.

781
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,000
I just, I don't know if they had the technical know-how

782
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,600
and like whatever passwords or stuff necessary,

783
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,600
treaty maintenance or whatever, I don't know.

784
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,040
Maybe I could be right on, I'll go look at that.

785
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,120
But it wasn't just that like, Ukraine had its own

786
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,400
nuclear weapons program, and then they wanted to just give it

787
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,360
up and give it to Russia.

788
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,920
This was the nuclear weapons program,

789
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,400
but these things were produced as part of the nuclear

790
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,280
branch program of the Soviet Union, okay.

791
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,160
- Would give them security guarantees.

792
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,520
Now obviously, Russia has betrayed that and attacked.

793
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,000
But America was supposed to be the counterbalance against that,

794
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,040
to agree to back up Ukraine.

795
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,480
- This is absolutely not true.

796
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,320
I could go back and read it,

797
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,800
but there's nothing in the language.

798
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,400
These memorandums are short.

799
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,320
I want to say like one or two pages long,

800
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,680
if I remember correctly, there was no guarantee

801
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,640
that somebody would step in and attack or be,

802
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,800
this is why it's important to be a part of things like NATO,

803
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,080
why it's important to be a part of formal agreements

804
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,920
or to get a UN security resolution,

805
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,240
a security council resolution on things.

806
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:20,320
'Cause then you do have guarantees where

807
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,560
if somebody fucks around or does some fucks shit,

808
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,920
well now, all the fuckers are about to come to war with you

809
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,200
because the UN is literally signed off on this.

810
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,400
So now you've got like a strong legal argument as well

811
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,880
that you can use to go and have a good class for war.

812
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,800
- That's ever happened.

813
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,720
To abandon that is not just undermining any trust you have.

814
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,560
- By the way, clearly unrelated question are there any big names

815
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,360
and big names lives in Hollywood who are fans of you

816
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,680
and reached out to you to say they're fans of you.

817
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,320
Sometimes yeah, but I never know what to say to them.

818
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,120
I'm just flattered, I guess.

819
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,080
Not like, I don't know if I would say like A-listers,

820
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,960
but I've got like random people.

821
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,080
A lot of them I don't know though, I think,

822
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,280
'cause some of them are younger too.

823
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Like the guy, I also don't like to mention it much

824
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,640
because I don't want people to get like,

825
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,720
like hate, I don't know if that would ever happen or not.

826
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:04,160
But like one of the weirder ones kind of recently

827
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,160
was the guy who is the Ned guy from like Ned's declassified

828
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,960
whatever, like messages me on Instagram every now and then,

829
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,160
I was like, oh cool.

830
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,460
But I think that was like,

831
00:45:15,460 --> 00:45:18,440
I think that show was a little bit after my time

832
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,760
'cause I watched like losing my coironship.

833
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,340
But yeah, so every now and then I got like random people

834
00:45:21,340 --> 00:45:23,440
like, oh, hey, what's up?

835
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,320
- With allies, but it also undermines any denuclearization

836
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,760
agreement across the world.

837
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,160
It increases the likelihood that everybody feels the need

838
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,920
to race full speed towards nukes,

839
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,560
which again, think of the long-term implications

840
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,400
for the planet.

841
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,320
Additionally, on a purely selfish basis,

842
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,080
the Pentagon has started to realize

843
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,720
that the Ukraine leads in interceptor drones.

844
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:43,040
They're like, the world's best.

845
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,680
Maybe tied with Russia, like they're back and forth.

846
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,800
They're very, very good at it

847
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,480
because of the real realities of war.

848
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,760
And so maintaining their survival and allyship

849
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,200
is important because these interceptor drones,

850
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,040
you're trying to get them for Iran right now.

851
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,760
Like you literally could use their expertise

852
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:58,800
and ability and skill.

853
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,120
And instead, you're selling them out

854
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,560
to save a buck in the short term

855
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,560
or to like juice the poles for the midterms.

856
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,640
It doesn't make sense.

857
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,560
Now, I do think that there are leaders in Europe

858
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:07,400
who get this.

859
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,600
There was a meeting they had after all this

860
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,680
where they said to make some more to this.

861
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,600
- You see that we have to pressure the aggressive.

862
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,200
- Oh, also people who are just trying to clip farm people

863
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,400
in orbit or whatever.

864
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,680
And that's the only thing you do

865
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,160
is you show up just to clip farm

866
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,800
are now blacklisted from my orbit, okay?

867
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,840
I've removed his perms.

868
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,120
He's never coming back to my discord.

869
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,240
- Fucking North clipped farmer yesterday

870
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:29,240
on my crop planning and then fucking immediately

871
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:32,400
ran to Twitter and clipped an out-of-context joke tweet

872
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,120
to try to shame me for my planning habits, okay?

873
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,320
Fuck that guy, okay?

874
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,960
Also tune in later 'cause there might be

875
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,320
a whole bunch of information posted about him, all right?

876
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,000
Just saying, keep your eyes open.

877
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,160
Fuck that guy.

878
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,840
- I swear to stop the war, not the victim to surrender.

879
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,840
Squeezing Ukraine is not the right approach.

880
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,360
- And I agree, squeezing Ukraine,

881
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,240
squeezing that side of it,

882
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:55,640
the side that's supposed to be your ally

883
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,200
is an insane way to try to end the war.

884
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,840
However, even in Europe, there are rising forces

885
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,520
who are trying to undermine the ability to help Ukraine.

886
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,720
The two biggest economies in Europe

887
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:06,120
and the powerhouses of the EU are France and Germany.

888
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,320
The AFD in Germany put this out five hours ago.

889
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,280
Germany is wrong to finance the Ukraine war.

890
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,920
This is the part of the party that's leading in the polls.

891
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,840
In France, the party that's leading in the polls,

892
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,360
the RN led by Le Pen

893
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,280
is threatening to cut support for Ukraine if elected.

894
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,000
Both of these parties are likely to do well

895
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:19,840
in their next elections.

896
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,320
- And then there is the fucking,

897
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,760
I feel like the French shit, are they at like 45%

898
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,840
or some bullshit in terms of support in the country?

899
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,160
Or I don't know if that was polls for elections or whatever.

900
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,200
- Both trying to undermine Ukrainian support.

901
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,200
There's possibilities in both of these.

902
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,880
- I also haven't looked into those French protests.

903
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,000
Am I gonna get mega triggered

904
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,880
if I look into those French protests?

905
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,320
One thing changed that I don't appreciate,

906
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,200
I actually think it hurt us as a democratic people a lot.

907
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,560
In the past, when you didn't have social media,

908
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,960
you needed leaders to communicate things and ideas

909
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,880
with movements.

910
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,240
It was really important.

911
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:59,040
You needed leaders for your movements.

912
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,120
Now, I heard the ideology,

913
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,760
and I've even repeated it sometimes,

914
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,240
I disagree with this hardcore now,

915
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,680
that while actually having decentralized movements is good,

916
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,400
because if you have leaders to your movements,

917
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,440
they can get assassinated,

918
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,600
or if they do things that are immoral or whatever,

919
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:12,960
if they cheat on their wives or some bullshit,

920
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,200
now your movement falls apart.

921
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,320
I think that's all bullshit.

922
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,760
We need to go back, fuck social media.

923
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,160
We need to go back to having strong centralized movements,

924
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,600
because this thing,

925
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,560
where you just have random groups of people showing up

926
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,600
with no list of, like, also, here's another thing

927
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,480
that I noticed that is hardcore missing

928
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,680
from every fucking protest that's happened

929
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,680
in the last 20 fucking years in my country.

930
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Okay, and that's not even speaking to Europe.

931
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,800
Okay, I don't know what's going on in France.

932
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,880
We don't have lists of demands anymore either.

933
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,880
You ever notice that?

934
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,480
That people are going out, they're protesting hardcore.

935
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,800
I always complain there's a lot of energy,

936
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,040
but there's no like direction.

937
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,280
Well, I've noticed, 'cause we don't really demand anything.

938
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,600
Like, what were the BLM protests for?

939
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,440
Like, what are we even, why are we protesting?

940
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,680
When I say why, I don't mean like,

941
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,840
what's the cause of our anger?

942
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,560
I mean, what are we trying to accomplish?

943
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,280
There's no list of demands anywhere

944
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,040
for this is the thing that we want,

945
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,800
and we're going to protest until we get it, right?

946
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,160
You don't have lists of demands.

947
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,040
You don't have leaders for your movements.

948
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,440
We can look to a clear source of ideology

949
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,440
to know what they're protesting for,

950
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,640
or the things that they want.

951
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,440
You don't have any of these things,

952
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,320
and then you just get these nightmare scenarios

953
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,440
where, oh my God, go figure, you know, go figure.

954
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,640
What happened?

955
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,960
A protest happened with a bunch of left-leaning people,

956
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,200
and then violent people showed up,

957
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,280
and started burning shit down,

958
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,200
and now we don't even know if the left supports are not,

959
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,720
because there's nobody that can speak out

960
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:33,320
as a coherent head or leader to any of these things.

961
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,000
Like, it's just, it's a nightmare.

962
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,760
It is a fucking nightmare.

963
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,400
- These parties are very Russia-tied,

964
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,720
and this is like a deeper thing.

965
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:45,760
But even if you take 'em at face value,

966
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,520
even if you take 'em as just like what they say,

967
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,800
- See, peace go on Tom Fooler last night.

968
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,680
He swept for Swipe pill,

969
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,080
and then when Tom wanted to chat about Ilhan,

970
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,760
he said he didn't know anything about it.

971
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,440
Yeah, peace go is a 100% just on the snucker train.

972
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,440
That dude is mind-fucked.

973
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,480
'Cause don't even worry about it.

974
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,840
That's, we know this.

975
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:00,680
I don't know.

976
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,640
updates on them. I swear to God, I put a bell out here that both these parties are very Russia tied,

977
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,520
and this is like a deeper thing, but even if you take him at face value, even if you take him

978
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,280
as just like what they say, they say it is to save money. It's gotten too expensive. They can't

979
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,680
afford it. And I just want to talk about this larger theme in my work about the fucking consequences

980
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,480
of all this leadership with such short term thinking. Nobody is thinking what the second order affects

981
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,040
the problems that will arise if Russia feels emboldened and successful in this war are immediate

982
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,400
and on the doorstep of Europe. Poland understands that. That's why it's very important. But other

983
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:33,440
countries seem not to. And I'm trying to get everyone in my audience or anyone can see to

984
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,360
understand how important it is to think about things long term to understand that short term

985
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,560
pain is sometime worthwhile for long term societal gain to do the right thing. And I really really

986
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,160
feel a lack of that in obviously Donald Trump's leadership, but in a lot of leadership and choice

987
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,280
people are making. And I'm hopefully trying to build an audience where we think about that a

988
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,160
little bit more. I don't have much more to say other than this. We can be very angry. And I hope

989
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,360
that I can explain it in a way that you can tell others and we can make it understood that this

990
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,600
is not just normal political back and forth. This is like really, really stupid decisions

991
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,200
that are undermining anybody's ability to trust or build long term. So anyway, thanks for watching.

992
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,000
Hey, it's almost like that's the point. I'll follow up with more. But this is all happened

993
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:11,920
in the last few days. So it's pretty recent. Thanks.

994
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:25,200
My wrong thing. Listen, the zugami shit, that's between her and Arias. I don't care.

995
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,200
You can always watch this if you want to know about the protests

996
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,600
by Vosh. Yeah, I'm good on that one, Chief.

997
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,440
Do you think protests in a democracy can be invalid if population is misinformed or

998
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,440
uninformed to demands? Something would be bad for the nation? No, in a democracy of the right

999
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:51,200
to demand, whatever you want. But I'm just saying, we don't even have demands. I feel like so many,

1000
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:58,160
and not to channel my inner neoliberal. But I feel like so many movements have been hijacked

1001
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,280
by this cancerous fucking left in our country. And then as a result of that hijacking, nothing

1002
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:08,640
comes from them. So for instance, what were the demands for Occupy Wall Street?

1003
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,440
And then what did we get from it? I guess we kind of got a little bit of banking regulation,

1004
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,360
but I think it's been stripped from now. But like, people had, we repeated the whole like,

1005
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:26,800
we repeated the whole corporations aren't people, I guess. And then, I don't know,

1006
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,600
but who were the leaders of Occupy Wall Street? Elizabeth Warren, right? Like not really, right?

1007
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,280
There were no leaders to any of these movements.

1008
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,680
And I think that's a problem. Are they, I think you need, I think we need to go back to having

1009
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:46,640
like leaders for our marches and our movements, so we can have like a clear list of demands and

1010
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,960
things that we need. Yeah, for the BLM stuff, what were we ever even demanding? You know, I,

1011
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,920
you know, I say a lot. You know, if you put 10 people in a room and you ask them what

1012
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,120
defund the police means, you get 11 different answers. Like nobody had any fucking idea

1013
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,400
with that shit, Matt. And some people would try to pretend otherwise, but it's just not true.

1014
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:01,200
Nobody had any clue.

1015
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,720
Eight, I need, there's no way to search for like a name tag, right? I need farmer three.

1016
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:15,440
Where the fuck is Farmer three? Farmer three. Why aren't you in bed?

1017
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,560
Why do some of them not sleep? Go to bed.

1018
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:28,560
Go, what are you doing? Where the fuck is he going?

1019
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,280
What are you looking at me for?

1020
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,080
Maybe all the beds are taken upstairs. Hold on. This is where I killed the ones that...

1021
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,400
Oh, hello, Foliage!

1022
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,120
Oh, oh, can you hear me all right? How's my audio? Dog shit, but I'm assuming you're not using real

1023
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:13,680
microphone? I'm using a MacBook right now. Okay. I don't know. What are you saying? It's not a

1024
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:20,080
real microphone. Well, it sounds like a... It sounds like a... Not a real microphone. Yeah,

1025
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,240
like a laptop, right? But that's okay. I can hear you though. What's up? Control. Okay.

1026
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:33,280
So here for pragmatic paper showing. So first, the issue came out on 10th, 13th is a big, big issue.

1027
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:40,400
Both a lot of articles, a lot of cool articles and also we are launching some changes to the

1028
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:47,200
paper, some new features and venues for mediums for coming out and stuff like that. So go through

1029
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:59,920
all that. Cool. So... Okay. So the first thing is Reason Riffs has a new article on UK Power...

1030
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:07,040
politics and labor and lessons learned now. I believe that on the pragmatic papers, where

1031
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:13,120
is the newest issue? If you go over into the menu section and then to issues,

1032
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,440
make sure I'm saying what you're saying. Is it pragmatic? Okay, so if you go to the top left,

1033
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:26,880
it's volumes. Yes, pragmatic papers dot com. Oh, and then over on the left is a volume. Sorry,

1034
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:36,640
not issues. And then there's the volume l II, which, oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Okay, I thought there's

1035
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,800
supposed to be like a new one today, but it's not. So it is the smart page stuff. I gotta set 12

1036
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:47,040
days ago. All right. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, it got thrown off a little bit by, you know,

1037
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,360
us all canvassing and stuff like that. No, I was making sure I wasn't missing a thing that was

1038
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,640
supposed to be for today. Okay, go ahead. Repeat. Go. Wonderful. Talk. Bitch. Yes.

1039
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:03,280
So the first article in here is reason riffs. He made a piece on the UK politics, labor and

1040
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:09,520
lessons learned. Now, I will leave it to the reader to decide whether this is all hindsight

1041
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:16,480
bias of the fact that he predicted all along the theory of the case of why based on policy and

1042
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:22,720
messaging, labor's popularity would go down dramatically and then pop back up recently,

1043
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:29,360
all predicted. But it is an interesting hindsight explanation of perhaps like, you know, a theory

1044
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,800
of the case of why that's happened for labor and how, you know, Democrats, maybe when weekend power

1045
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:40,400
can avoid having the same decline of popularity and also maybe what lessons can be learned from

1046
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:47,600
the resurgence. Okay. The big takeaway I have from that piece, if I have, I guess, one that I think

1047
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:55,200
is worth maybe taking away is that, you know, if you're going to get labeled basically as, you know,

1048
00:56:55,200 --> 00:57:00,320
a feckless liberal wimp, regardless of what you do, and you're not going to be able to beat the

1049
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:05,520
media narrative around that, then at the very least, maybe like you can be properly sympathy

1050
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:11,440
about it and you can be like really like apologetic and make people feel special. And so you can like,

1051
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:17,760
so in the case of the UK party, labor party, what they did is they basically like that you guys are

1052
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:24,000
totally right. We have totally dropped the ball. We're so sorry. And we'll never treat you that way

1053
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,680
again. And people actually seem to like that. So like, at least they got the benefits of the

1054
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:36,080
fact that, you know, like a rare charmer chilling the fucking emote spam Jesus fuck. Like when um,

1055
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,800
there are some fast food restaurants that have learned this Burger King recently did it with their

1056
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:46,240
French fries, I think, or no, with their chicken nuggets. And um, uh, it was dominoes that did it

1057
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,760
with their pizza where they were like, Hey, guys, we had been listening to you and we think you're

1058
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,440
right. Our pizza does fucking suck shit. So we redid everything, give us a chance. And then people

1059
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,920
actually apparently like it was actually a really good business decision. Yeah. Hey, exactly. I mean,

1060
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:02,720
I mean, I guess that the lesson Democrats maybe can take from this is if the media climate is such

1061
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:07,520
that every Democrat is going to be labeled as, you know, a completely worthless human being within

1062
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,280
like 12 months or something like that, that maybe what we need to do is we just need to accept that,

1063
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:16,320
you know, we live in a dystopian time where reality doesn't matter. And uh, we just need to,

1064
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,240
to roll with it and be like, you know what, guys, you're absolutely right. We're going to toss,

1065
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,040
we're going to replace our Democrats all the time and replace it with a generic Democrat that will

1066
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:30,960
tell you that we will do better. Okay. Um, how many times we can do that? I don't know. Um, if,

1067
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,600
if that's all I mean, sustainable long term, it's probably sustainable for at least three fucking

1068
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,440
decades because the conservative party in the United States has done it. So, yeah, we can use

1069
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,240
them as an example. Uh, except, uh, I don't know if they've actually necessarily taken full

1070
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:49,120
accountability. Well, I guess Trump kind of did with Bush almost with the war. I guess, I mean,

1071
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,080
like fucking up and then asking people for a chance to do it over and over again. But I guess you're

1072
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:59,200
right. Then I actually do admit accountability. So, okay. Um, okay. The next one is Stone Steinhardt,

1073
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:05,200
uh, who gives a case for concern about the democratic process in a couple weeks for the election. So,

1074
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,920
you know, there's been a lot of talk about, you know, is Trump going to steal the midterms? Um,

1075
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,960
I'd say the good thing about this piece is it's very timely and it's a couple weeks. So, you know,

1076
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:20,480
if, if, if this framework and the thought that he put into it is going to be useful, it's going to

1077
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:26,480
be useful soon. Um, I'd say the good news as well is that it's all very hypothetical. And since he

1078
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,640
put a lot of thought into this, he's apparently probably read around quite a bit on this topic.

1079
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,000
The fact that is all hypothetical and we're two weeks out and this admin cannot keep a secret

1080
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,320
means probably, I would say at this point, we're probably okay. Um, I don't know,

1081
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:45,200
your thought is on this. Um, like do you think there's any chance that we wouldn't know if there was a

1082
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:54,240
massive effective plot to overturn the midterms that we wouldn't know it? Um, I don't know. I think

1083
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,920
my biggest fear is there's a lot of little tools they can use. So, things like,

1084
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,460
like we see with Elon Omar and then that other people

1085
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:06,000
who are smarter are planning things that we wouldn't know

1086
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,000
because Trump just isn't privy to them.

1087
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,840
But by and large, thankfully,

1088
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,360
I'm gonna go with the take that I had in 2020

1089
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,960
that just rigging a US election

1090
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,400
because we don't use computers,

1091
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,040
because the states have so much autonomy

1092
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,520
over how they run things.

1093
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,680
And because there are so many different people involved,

1094
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,160
it's very, very, very, very, very difficult to do.

1095
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,040
You kind of have to rig it from the top,

1096
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,840
which is so much more transparent.

1097
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,560
So like the electors scheme that Trump tried

1098
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,440
was like obviously able to see that.

1099
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,360
So I'm not as worried about some huge secret plot,

1100
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,080
but the only thing that would worry me, I guess,

1101
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,000
are places where the elections are closer,

1102
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,880
where they're like deploying ICE

1103
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,400
or trying to shut down ballot boxes

1104
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,480
or like they're doing this weird shit in Alaska right now

1105
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,880
or trying to arrest or deport politicians.

1106
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:53,880
Like that's the stuff I'd be worried about.

1107
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,840
But yeah, I don't think there's some huge top down plot,

1108
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,400
I don't think.

1109
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,200
- Yeah, I think the best case,

1110
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,120
this is like the post office stuff,

1111
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:04,320
which was definitely very scary,

1112
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,840
but like I feel like if they were actually about to like

1113
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,720
have it so that like, you know,

1114
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,160
across the entire US, every male ballot

1115
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,360
was getting like confiscated if it was from a Democrat

1116
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,960
or something based on like voterless,

1117
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,520
they would have to actually go talk to some postman.

1118
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,040
- Yeah, we know about that, we know about it.

1119
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,480
- Yeah, plus all the female ballots,

1120
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,720
I mean we don't even know for those, so I don't think

1121
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,040
we have to worry too much about the post office stuff.

1122
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:35,160
- Yeah, okay, at least for now, scary precedents.

1123
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,520
Okay, next one is we have a political action award

1124
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,640
for Darius, which you saw in the fundraising stream,

1125
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,000
that kind of got previewed for you for it,

1126
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,400
but he does get a pragmatic paper article

1127
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:49,860
as part of that prize.

1128
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,680
I was like, at least initially I had kind of an instinct

1129
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,320
of being like, wait, an aviation industry effort,

1130
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,800
how is this a political action award?

1131
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,480
Is this not like some kind of aviation industry prize?

1132
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,440
How does this have anything to do with politics?

1133
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,640
But then I thought about it for a moment,

1134
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,760
I'm like, well, politics is about stuff,

1135
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,720
like you know, jobs and helping your community and society,

1136
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,480
so I guess if you're being in a politics,

1137
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,240
that's exactly what it actually should be about.

1138
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,000
But it's kind of weird that I haven't had that thought,

1139
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,880
it's a reflection of society, but yeah.

1140
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,000
- What do I say this at?

1141
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,040
- It's one of the articles in this issue.

1142
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:30,880
- Which one is it called?

1143
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,880
- It's the, it is called the, the engineer building

1144
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,000
an aviation hub in New York, Southern New York.

1145
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,680
- Does this one have the, wait, the Darius award?

1146
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,240
- It does, Darius Palmer, not the other Darius.

1147
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,560
- Oh, nevermind.

1148
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,360
- You're fucking mind-fucking me, okay, nevermind.

1149
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,760
Okay, here you go.

1150
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,080
I thought you were talking, I thought Darius was getting

1151
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,520
an award for fucking eating the peppers or some shit

1152
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,040
for the digital ground game fundraiser.

1153
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,400
That's what I was thinking of mine on, but okay, nevermind.

1154
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,000
All right, so you're saying that there was a favor

1155
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,200
of this fucking Darius.

1156
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,520
Okay, I was confused for a second.

1157
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:08,760
Okay. - Yeah.

1158
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,560
Exactly, don't get me in trouble with Darius again.

1159
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,960
Trying to explain it and that we don't hate him.

1160
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,800
That's just a grand game.

1161
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:16,640
- Okay. - Okay.

1162
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:17,480
- All right.

1163
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,560
Okay, and then, okay, next is Case has an article

1164
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,520
about purity testing on mom Donnie.

1165
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:30,160
And basically, just the recentite walk

1166
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,800
that he's been having to go of how can you be politically

1167
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,040
relevant while being a leftist?

1168
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,560
It is a challenging balance to hold.

1169
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:44,120
Probably have to be way too talented of a politician

1170
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,080
for them to fill up even a fifth of the seats

1171
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,440
of the US government.

1172
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:55,320
But next, this is actually really exciting,

1173
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,680
is that there was an interview actually with James Berg

1174
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,480
from Wyoming who is the Senate candidate.

1175
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,080
Now, to be fair, he has probably one percent,

1176
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,720
less than a one percent chance of victory.

1177
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,280
I expect to lose by 30 points in general press by now.

1178
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,760
However, it is an interview with a Senate candidate

1179
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in the bragmatic papers.

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So I'll just take that just on its face

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and say that first of many, first of many Senate candidates

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that we have in the pragmatic papers.

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And the piece is really good by Chris Kuzengian

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and I hope that's pronounced.

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And I think the Senate candidate will actually be pretty happy

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with the coverage.

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- Cool.

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- Okay, that covers all the actual pieces.

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The other thing I just kind of wanted to kind of go over

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is that some changes in the pragmatic papers

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kind of going forward, some exciting things.

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I think this may end up being kind of a recurring theme,

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kind of every election cycle.

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But right after an election is kind of a time

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where a lot of our election initiatives kind of calm down

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and things like that, last time after.

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2024, a lot of things happened, but one of the more positive things that happened after that

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election is that the pragmatic papers launched from nothing to existence. And a lot of good things

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have come from that. This time post this election, there's some changes coming as well. The first

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is that there's a new streamed show called pragmatic perspectives with reason rifts in case on Fridays

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at 12 EST. I have no idea what their actual channel is. So be free of this out in kick chat or something

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or in a DJ chat, someone knows, someone knows what the kick channel is or whatever it's being

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01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:52,480
streamed. The other thing is that there is a new show which has a couple episodes now with myself

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01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:58,240
and Kafka called the papers pod, which is not streamed. It's more of a traditional kind of podcast

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where, you know, fitting in our schedules and then like record and editing and then putting it out.

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It goes out on sub stack as its primary outlet. Apple podcasts and Spotify as well are distributed

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and the description of it generally is that there are, you know, both Kafka and myself are

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nerdy, 30 millennial liberals bringing their perspectives on news of interest to them from

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the pragmatic papers. Do the real microphone for that one. Okay, here's the, I will get a

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real microphone if we had 500 subscribers on a sub stack. Get a microphone. It is 2026. Okay,

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you got to have a microphone. Get a goddamn microphone. 30 bucks. You said you're a millennial. What's

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your job? What do you do for work? I'm not sure. You're an actuary. So you're making big bucks. Okay,

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put doing all those old numbers. All right. Go get fucking order. Goddamn blue yeti. Okay. Anyway,

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go ahead. Yeah, I also have kids that have Christmas gifts. So if I wanted them a microphone,

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say, Oh, look, you'll be a podcaster. They'll be happy for you. And then just jack their kid

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and then use it all day when they're at school or whatever. Yeah, fair. Okay.

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I'll definitely think about that. Unfortunately, one thing that has come up is that you guys on

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wait to celebrate Halloween. We do. Oh, if you're looking for some extra costumes,

1219
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I got a friend who's selling a bunch of Dr. Seuss stuff right now. So, okay, so I go ahead.

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Why do you have a lot of Dr. Seuss stuff? That's a little, sorry. Okay. Okay, gotcha. And so,

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unfortunately, one update on that is that at least right now coffee is on a bit of a vacation. So,

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I am going to be figuring out kind of a new medium to put those up as those out more regularly in

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the next, yeah, the immediate term. But he will, I will keep his spot open for him for when he

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becomes more available again, coming up. Okay. And then the last thing is that sub stack is going

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to, along with the fact that the paper spot is going to be hosted on sub stack, sub stack is also

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going to be releasing with copies of the main site articles coming up. So, we have built,

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we have finally figured out the pipeline of getting a sub stack to speak the same web

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markdown format that our site does and can do the pipeline there. And so, that we can easily,

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when we go to release articles, have them also go through to sub stack. Oh, yeah,

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does our dev team does like nice, like website integrations and everything to it. Thank you.

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01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,560
With some of the sites, unfortunately, it's, if you're not like a WordPress site, it's not

1232
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white is automatic or like, you know, a couple, it's like a medium site. If you need help, I got

1233
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a pro quad subscription. I think five code that way. Okay. Our dev team just got it, I think,

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hopefully figured out, we'll see if if there's bugs in the process. But the beauty of that is that

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starting this next year and stuff, being future head for us, we are going to actually

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go be putting out where there's an actual algorithm where we could go viral and that there are readers,

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actual readers who read more than, you know, 300 words at a time that would be hopefully going

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out to. We can pick up some of those DGG literate masses who might be able to pick us up there.

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And then the paper spot, hopefully, as well, trying to build up that platform so that platform

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gets bigger and bigger so that it's nice and warmed up for you when you decide that that's

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01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:37,600
actually the place you have to go to have good conversations. That's awesome. All right. It sounds

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like we're on board then for a good Q1 alignment next year. It looks like we, I didn't hear as much

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AI integration as I would like. I feel like it's important that we start incorporating some more.

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We do have the, yeah, speak, if you want the AI segment, there is a controversial item which is

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is that we do have the ability where.

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writers have the choice to opt out of it, but on the pragmatic papers, we added the feature a

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while ago where readings of your pragmatic papers pieces are automatically produced based on

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AI, which will both transcribe and read the piece in a human-like fashion

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for people who don't like to read, and read their own articles. What the fuck?

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01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:34,640
It is really hard to read over 1000 words without making terrible mistakes. That's why.

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People should really appreciate the audiobook readers more than that industry who have been

1252
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destroyed by the AI apocalypse. Okay, well, that's all I've got, so thank you for hosting me,

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and I shall later. I love you, be careful. Bye. Fucking nerd.

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01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:31,200
I'm sorry from yesterday. I would love to hear a Democrat say the DSA, which again,

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I've read this on the show, their own words. It's not socialism. It is communism. It is

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communism. I'm sorry, but you're just right about it. When you're talking about taking over

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the names of production and taking over key industry. But you know, there's only one current elected

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official in all of America that has taken government stakes in the means of production.

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And it's Donald J. Trump. Well, that's true, too. You're really answering the question.

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Sure. I mean, I would love to hear somebody say, you know, you are not the Democratic Party.

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You're afraid to do this, but you should take it somewhere else and be your own party.

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Yeah. I mean, we can have a DSA mayor here in Los Angeles.

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Nithya Roman looks like she's going to be elected mayor. DSA mayor here. I mean,

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that's why I think it's so important we have some balance here because otherwise,

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who's going to push back on this stuff if we just have more and more of this and no one pushing back.

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That's why I think it's so important. My race, you're going to get finally someone

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to push back on the far left in California.

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Am I Deaf? Accent Deaf? Or is this guy British? Trying to be the mayor of

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Governor of California? What are you doing out here? What is this guy doing out here?

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If it wasn't as a failed experiment, it's not some big bold new idea, but I can work with anybody

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who wants to solve a problem. I combat issues like hunger or health care in a very different

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place than DSA candidates, but we both think this Andy Beshear guy is also, I think like behind

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Shapiro is like one of the most popular governors, politicians, I think in the US right now, I believe.

1274
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Both want people to be able to see it. Did you hear Arnold's accent? You mean the fucking

1275
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Terminator, bro? Come on. That's that's the most American man in the fucking world. Fuck you.

1276
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:15,440
Doctor when they're sick. There's a difference between problem solvers and problem callers and

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Republicans in a big ugly bill could close 35 rural hospitals in my state. No one can see a doctor

1278
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:25,520
when that happens. All right. Let me read a quote from Daniel Lurie. He's the San Francisco mayor.

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Friend of mine. Great guy. Yeah. And well, very popular. Yes. Very popular Democratic mayor in

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a city where it was really going off the rails. Exactly. And he owned it. He said we lost our way

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as a city. We got so entrapped in our progressive values and talking about progressivism. We weren't

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taking stock of what was happening in our streets. We were focused on the wrong things,

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and we weren't focused on common sense. Is that something you could endorse?

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01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:52,320
Absolutely. I mean, we need to be focused on that. Why notice how these people have to,

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when I say these people, I mean, like Democrats, why do we have to always be so apologetic for

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our past and our wrongs, right? Like Bill Maher is like, you can't you acknowledge you messed up,

1287
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can't you? Like, sure, we have. But like, I never hear these same concessions asked for

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from Republicans. I just, I just want to say it was so funny. Bill Maher made, he asked for one

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concession from JD Vance. He asked for one concession. He said one thing. He said one. Can you just

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promise me one thing? Just one thing. For me, anyway. So it's either going to be you or Rubio.

1291
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:45,680
Here's my deal breaker for your side. Okay. Deal breaker. He called it. Okay. Under Trump,

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you guys have two outcomes that an election can be. Either we win or they cheated.

1293
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:59,920
That sh*t has to stop. And the person. Now, technically, if I was listening,

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to this, okay? What I would say is, what a bullshit question, because it's such a fucking

1295
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,920
easy layup. Why are you asking him? This is a fucking dickside question. Why are you giving

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him a fucking layup? Obviously, right? You can just say, "Well, fine, of course, yeah."

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We won't say the elections were rigged. Like, this is a layup question.

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And that means the person who has to stop it would be you or Marco. Can you tell me you

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will do that? Will you bring us back to the middle, at least on that, where we concede

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election?

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Even the framing of this question is absurd. The middle is acknowledging that just because

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you lose an election doesn't mean it's fucking rigged. Okay.

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Where it's not either one of those two options. Okay, Bill. So this is where I'm probably

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going to lose you here. But I don't think that we should not concede elections, but I don't

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think that's what's going on. I think that if you go back, if you go back, I don't think

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01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:26,400
that we should not concede elections, but that's not the thing that's going wrong.

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Back to the president's core argument, he was making an argument about problems that exist

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in 2020.

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Look, we can't even get a simple concession on that. Fuck you. Fuck you. That was a layup

1310
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question. That was a layup question. That's fucking ridiculous.

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The party is a whole every day. Oh, the party needs to be hyper focused, right? When most

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people wake up in the morning, they're not thinking about party ideology. They're thinking

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about their job, their next doctor's appointment, the roads and bridges they drive, the school

1314
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they dropped, their kids off at, and whether they feel safe in their community. That ought

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to be the focus of the Democratic party.

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01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:04,400
Whatever. Wait, somebody said Tim Miller talked to Kyle Kolinsky?

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How are you doing?

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Hassan's narcissism has evolved to a new level. Wait, like me, this Tim Miller thing.

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He's the visionary of Democratic socialist. You disavow your friend Hassan Piker. Well,

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you disavow your friend Laura Loomer, who calls Black women, get a black bitches. And

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it's his party, Piker's party. Is there anything in that list of what you told Hassan Piker

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that you disavow now? No.

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[MUSIC] [SINGING]

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What's going on, everybody? I hope everyone is having a fantastic evening afternoon for

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you. No matter where you are in the world of Hassan Piker and this thousand I broadcast

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coming to you live from kind of sunny California, Los Angeles folks were live and alive. And

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I hope all the boys, girls and MBs are having a fantastic one because today's a beautiful

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day today's a wonderful day today is a Saturday. Okay. Stop.

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[SOUND]

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>> It's obviously you and the Bullwork in particular have been at the center of a discussion about

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the left liberal alliance, something that you know, Kyle and I have been very much embracing,

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I think you've embraced as well.

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Embracing the left liberal alliance, nobody in the United States knows anything about

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political ideology. It's crazy to me. Nobody knows what socialist or communist are. They

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have no idea how they do politics. It tries to be insane.

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>> Talk to each other on each other's shows. Do you think that that alliance is fraying

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here just right running into the middle action?

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>> Remember Kyle Kalinsky literally tweeted out a celebratory tweet months later to Slutkin

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saying my wife destroyed your career with her interview. Like what the fuck? These guys

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01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:51,280
are crazy. They hate the Democratic Party. They are a subversive element. They are trying

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to destroy the Democratic Party. That is literally their fucking goal.

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>> My frustration with this and thanks for guys for having me on talking about it. It's

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you know I this is in any of these situations it's always they shot first

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or whatever they shot and like to me I just began for myself and my show like I

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just think this has been a crazy time to like start talking about this and the

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reason is that it's happening is I think people feel so good about the midterms

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that there is like this kind of pre-2028 positioning and posturing

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happening and and I do and so I am concerned about the coalition's

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sustainability through 2028. Crystal ball with signal boosting tom tiffany's

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attack since crawly a day after when the primary oh about data centers right all

1351
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the lefties were attacking crawly they fucking hated this guy

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this is worse and more damaging than a canceled thanksgiving tweet

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or one of the biggest issues you I think that I think you should instantaneously

1354
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be fired and banned forever from being a fucking journalist or whatever the

1355
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,360
fuck if you're like amplifying attacks on people

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based on fucking 10 seconds 16 second fucking videos give me a break

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it's not always bad but like especially when the video is contrary to the

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to the answer the person is giving because I think they just cut like the first

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like eight seconds well because his answer to the data center thing is fine

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I think his answer is pretty much because we've watched it was either this

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interview or another one where he says he's like yeah like I think that if

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data centers are here then they should have to pay taxes and we need to make

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sure they're working with our communities and blah blah blah but we

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shouldn't just say like no data centers that would be crazy which is correct he

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gives the correct that is the correct answer that's the only right answer

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one of the biggest issues well one of the biggest issues that we did have a

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disagreement on is related to the data center she wants to see a moratorium

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can you like what's the disagreement that's it

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what it cuts there hello and it's a literally a tim tippity for governor

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ad what hello cringe fucking degenerate loser

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it's okay I think that the 2028 primary is

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protagonist primary in particular but oh yeah

1373
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:56,800
elissa slotkin crystal obliterated your pathetic career in one interview without

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even trying and I'm glad she did Hassan didn't threaten any violence at all

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and you know that you're just a lion smear merchant resigned what a fucking

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loser what an unbelievable fucking loser

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but I'm sure there'll be other primaries too um is going to be

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01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,960
bruising and personal and you know online there's the incentives of these

1379
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:22,160
online platforms is to you know highlight friction and highlight tension

1380
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,560
you know and I don't know like when you were on the three crystal part of my

1381
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,000
thing is that I think is so crazy that and and I think that's why a lot of

1382
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,680
people are like are coming at us now and trying to like position

1383
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,760
before this I think that's like what is behind a lot of this bubbling up right

1384
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,520
now but and I think that the timing is

1385
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:43,200
ill-advised like I think there's a lot like I don't think there's any reason to

1386
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,880
fray the coalition right now in the next two weeks I think that folks

1387
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,760
I agree so why are the liberal attacking guys so much

1388
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:54,400
they're pretty aligned um I mean I I just got off my show where I spent

1389
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,960
uh an extensive monologue talking about microns is horrible past I fucking

1390
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,760
hate microdger's a lot of the never-dumpers like we hate microdger's more

1391
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,880
than we hate some of the MAGA guys because he's like you know it's like the

1392
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,960
like he it's fake and it's a betrayal like I fucking hate microns and I want

1393
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:13,840
Abdul to win and I've been you know um arguing for that ever since he won the

1394
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,560
primary you also got to keep in mind too and I'm

1395
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,040
sorry listen and even I've been faking a little bit okay because I'm sorry I

1396
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,720
do I want a big Senate okay but like Abdul is a very flawed

1397
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,600
candidate if we're being honest okay especially compared to a lot of the

1398
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:29,040
other race that we got going on Abdul has he's got some baggage he's got some

1399
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,920
issues with the way he answers questions like this is not our strongest

1400
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,120
candidate for Senate okay but for the most part

1401
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,840
I shouldn't even even say for the most part like really

1402
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,640
the liberal establishment is sucking it up

1403
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:45,120
and they're throwing everything they have in his direction right we've got

1404
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,560
did Obama and Kamala have those uh events already happened

1405
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,600
that if you've got the DCC is throwing a ton of money at a millions of

1406
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,640
dollars at him like the whole democratic liberal establishment

1407
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,760
has literally lined up behind this guy to support him in his fucking race

1408
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:02,080
despite all the problems arguably they did the same thing with fucking

1409
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,800
platinum despite all of his fucking problems and look how that turned out

1410
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,800
so like I'm really tired of these leftist fucks trying to pull this like oh

1411
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,840
you guys are always inviting and you're attacking I said well the fuck you

1412
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,400
like the establishment was complaining about how much the the

1413
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,960
the leftists had basically abandoned Abdul they weren't throwing money out of

1414
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,560
anymore they didn't care that much anymore um and then you just saw

1415
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,560
one thing you know there've been multiple attacks that were

1416
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,960
thrown at uh Crawley after Hong got annihilated and her primary

1417
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,480
um it's just so these people are I fucking hate him

1418
01:24:30,480 --> 01:24:34,480
um and then simultaneously you need like also like to get a good majority like

1419
01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:37,200
you need Roy Cooper to win you need to win in some of these red states

1420
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,960
Adam Hamilton um is is uh middle of the red person like you

1421
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,320
like you need we need Abdul and Roy to win you know what I mean

1422
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:48,400
and so I think that like discussing these tensions now is pretty silly

1423
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,800
and and and I think that a lot of it is you know previewing 28

1424
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,000
and I think we'll see kind of how it holds but I also think that

1425
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,040
my other thought of this I'm interested in your guys take is

1426
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:04,400
that a lot of this is

1427
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,040
is like a lot of the disagreements are--

1428
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,760
- Wait, is this coming agreeing with me or disagreeing me?

1429
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,280
See, it says liberal establishment

1430
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,800
that destiny goes into specifics about who?

1431
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,960
- I think they're like fake and like they're positioning.

1432
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,160
You know, like people like create fake, you know,

1433
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:18,400
because it's like good for--

1434
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:19,760
again, the algorithms push this.

1435
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,640
It's good for business, like, you know,

1436
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,960
highlight like differences.

1437
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,120
And so like differences get sprouted up.

1438
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,640
And I just like one example of this.

1439
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,080
And you guys, I think, know this about me,

1440
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,000
but like a lot of the left criticism of the bulwark

1441
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,560
is like, oh, like you're pushing the Neocon candidates.

1442
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,520
And you're pushing this and that in the midterms.

1443
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:39,680
And I'm like--

1444
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:46,680
- Uh, I love Tim, but like that is a very good faith.

1445
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,760
That is a very charitable representation

1446
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,360
of how the lefties are treating Sarah.

1447
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:53,840
It's not generally just you're pushing

1448
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,720
the neoliberal whatever candidates.

1449
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,200
It's that you are like a subversive conservative actor

1450
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,160
trying to sabotage the left

1451
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,680
and turn the Democratic Party

1452
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,200
into what the old Republican Party was.

1453
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,440
It's a lot more nasty than that.

1454
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:09,240
It's a lot more nasty than that.

1455
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:11,480
- I don't think any of those people

1456
01:26:11,480 --> 01:26:12,680
are even listening to my show.

1457
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:17,400
Like I was as vocal against the Iran war as possible day one.

1458
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,920
I've been super critical of the Democratic establishment

1459
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,240
for not being harder against the Iran war.

1460
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:23,320
I thought it was very obvious

1461
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,320
it was gonna be a failure from the start.

1462
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,720
- I agree that I think the Democratic Party

1463
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,960
like lost its branding that they had in '08 with Obama

1464
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,520
as being more of an anti-war or more war skeptical party.

1465
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:37,520
- And it's so funny too.

1466
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,200
I don't know if Tim realizes it.

1467
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:40,600
I don't know if it'll come up in this conversation

1468
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,640
or how mask on Kyle and the astrologists are gonna be.

1469
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:49,640
But he's trying to throw a bone I think a little bit

1470
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:50,800
or maybe he genuinely believes it.

1471
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,800
So like yeah, I understand with Obama we did better

1472
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:53,640
and now we don't.

1473
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:54,680
These people fucking hate Obama now.

1474
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:56,040
They've moved way on.

1475
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,400
They're way past that.

1476
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,040
They're way past the, oh, we just want Obama backstage.

1477
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:01,720
These people hate him.

1478
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,080
I'm pretty sure Colin C's literally tweeted out

1479
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:04,880
and mentioned in videos, oh yeah, Obama's a war criminal

1480
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,040
just as much as anybody else.

1481
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,080
And then they always cite that murder to US citizen

1482
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:09,680
without due process with a drone strike.

1483
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,440
These motherfuckers, they hate Obama.

1484
01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:12,680
They hate the ACA.

1485
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,400
They hate everything about that time period.

1486
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,040
And so when you're trying to harden back to that

1487
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:18,080
to find some common ground,

1488
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:19,960
you're not finding the common ground that you think you are.

1489
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,120
These people are commies.

1490
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,920
Like actually.

1491
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,080
And I think that's been a problem for the party's brand.

1492
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:26,880
So it's like, I agree with the list.

1493
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,200
So it's kind of like the left is a lot of times

1494
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,600
like shadow boxing like a fake person, you know,

1495
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,720
to like create tension that I don't think exists.

1496
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,200
So I think it'd be more beneficial

1497
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:38,440
for us to have like discussions like this.

1498
01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:40,060
And I'm sure we're gonna have some disagreements of course,

1499
01:27:40,060 --> 01:27:42,800
but like, you know, to actually hash out

1500
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,960
like where those really are.

1501
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,880
Like versus like creating fake fights.

1502
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,560
Like, you know, like this is WWE or something.

1503
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,040
- So I would say at this moment,

1504
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:55,160
I actually think that most of this is just an online thing.

1505
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:56,840
And if you look in the real world

1506
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:58,520
and you look at like the early voting results

1507
01:27:58,520 --> 01:27:59,920
and you look at the polling data,

1508
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:02,080
it's very clear that there actually is

1509
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,720
a pretty rock solid liberal leftist alliance

1510
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,200
to support democratic candidates and defeat MAGA.

1511
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,560
So I'm like optimistic in the sense that I think

1512
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,680
it's more of your average voter and a focus.

1513
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:13,160
- This talking point is so annoying.

1514
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:14,000
Peace code uses it.

1515
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,400
A lot of people use this talking point.

1516
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,400
It is true that among the voters,

1517
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:19,960
like a person who calls themselves

1518
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,440
a socialist or a leftist is supporting liberal candidates

1519
01:28:22,440 --> 01:28:24,640
like fucking 90% of the time probably.

1520
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:28,240
This is true, but that doesn't resemble

1521
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:32,320
the ideological subversion and cancer

1522
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,600
that is emanating from people like Kyle or Crystal

1523
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,840
who are like way more overtly Marxist

1524
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,520
and will basically say as much.

1525
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,240
It's not, there's a divide here that needs to be addressed.

1526
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,160
It's the reason why you end up with candidates

1527
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,160
like Plattner and Hong is because of these types of people.

1528
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,800
And that isn't accounted for just by looking at voters

1529
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:51,800
who say, oh, I'm a socialist

1530
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,020
and I vote for liberals 90% of the time.

1531
01:28:54,020 --> 01:28:56,360
- This group is like, I love Zoron

1532
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,880
and I also am very excited about James Tout.

1533
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,040
Like, you know, like the dem, like the dem,

1534
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,760
at media and dem person, like does not like Schumer

1535
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,920
and Jeffries, like love Zoron also loves

1536
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,040
like whatever moderate candidate you see.

1537
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,240
- Kamala who is like, I'm pretty sure still polling

1538
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,440
is the most popular candidate in the United States.

1539
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:15,800
See these guys love it when you throw them a bone.

1540
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:16,800
But if you were to ask them about that,

1541
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:17,760
you understand that Kamala is like

1542
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:18,840
the most popular person right now

1543
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:19,680
that Democratic Party, right?

1544
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:20,520
They're not going to acknowledge that.

1545
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:21,960
That's the real world.

1546
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,160
That's the real world right now.

1547
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,960
It's not Mumdani who's very popular in New York City,

1548
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,480
but it's not Mumdani, it's Kamala.

1549
01:29:29,480 --> 01:29:33,800
- Like love Zoron also loves like whatever moderate candidate

1550
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:35,040
you see running this year.

1551
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:39,080
Like that's just, I think that like regular normies,

1552
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:40,720
Democrats, I think that that is true.

1553
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,720
- To defeat the fascists, I think everybody is basically

1554
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,720
on the same page and they should be on the same page.

1555
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,480
There certainly are though, I would say real ideological

1556
01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:52,720
differences that in this moment might not matter the most

1557
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:53,960
'cause we're all on the same page,

1558
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:57,320
but moving forward into 2028, they will matter, right?

1559
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,200
So I wanted to ask you, you saw--

1560
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,920
- What causes people like Tim to be so,

1561
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:04,960
for like a bit more charitable people like Kyle and Crystal,

1562
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,000
because these people, huh, I keep using these words

1563
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,360
and I know it's confusing because we've heard,

1564
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,160
Republicans use these words so much and they mean nothing,

1565
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,040
but it's because these people are socialists

1566
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:15,840
and most people in the United States,

1567
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,120
the vast majority of people don't know what a socialist is.

1568
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,280
They just think it's like somebody who's more to the left.

1569
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:21,120
That's it.

1570
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:24,920
That's why even Neera Tandon, when she was asked by Sam Cedar,

1571
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,720
do you know the differences between my politics

1572
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:27,560
and your politics?

1573
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:28,560
Neera didn't actually know the answer.

1574
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,400
I don't think, you know, I love Neera, I love Neera,

1575
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,880
I love, anyway, the fights with the far left on social media,

1576
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,400
but I don't think she knows what a socialist is,

1577
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:35,880
because when she was asked to articulate

1578
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:37,640
what the differences were between her and Sam,

1579
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:40,800
Sam is a socialist now, she couldn't really do it,

1580
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,080
because none of these people actually know

1581
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,360
what an actual like Marxist socialist person is

1582
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,320
or what they believe, and the differences

1583
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,160
are not just a little bit more to the left,

1584
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,000
the differences are substantial.

1585
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,160
They are a substantial set of differences,

1586
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,600
both economically and politically.

1587
01:30:56,440 --> 01:30:59,680
- Carvel told Bill Crystal that he preferred,

1588
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,520
Republicans told the House by five seats,

1589
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,800
rather than Democrats holding the House by five seats,

1590
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,360
because in that scenario, the DSA would have too much power.

1591
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,320
So, what do you think of those comments?

1592
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,840
- Adiotic, and I live down in Louisiana now,

1593
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:15,520
people don't know, so I love James.

1594
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,720
I get to have dinner with him about once a month,

1595
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,840
and you know, James talks a lot, and so--

1596
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:23,960
- Jesse's been so brain poisoned by online Marxists,

1597
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:25,360
he has no idea how much they actually

1598
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,560
support liberal candidates.

1599
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,040
I've literally clarified 50 million times

1600
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:30,960
that the average person online who identifies

1601
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,560
as a socialist or Marxist, 90% of the time

1602
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:33,400
we'll vote for the liberal.

1603
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:36,240
Who was the whole unaligned movement protesting again, though?

1604
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,720
The whole pro-Palestinian people,

1605
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,480
who were they constantly protesting?

1606
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:42,560
Who were they disrupting as much as possible?

1607
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,640
Who were they shit-stirring as hard as they could online

1608
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:46,880
to disrupt the discourse?

1609
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,160
Who was yanking the chain from any pro-positive

1610
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,280
Democrat messaging to make it about a place

1611
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:52,880
they didn't even give a fuck about?

1612
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,440
Or the uncommitted, not on the line, I'm sorry, the uncommitted.

1613
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:03,040
- Sometimes, I think he's also 82,

1614
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,400
and I think that he gets a little wrapped up in himself

1615
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,520
sometimes, so it was really dumb, really stupid.

1616
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,160
Also, though, I get a little bit--

1617
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,440
- For Nira and many others, I think it's not just

1618
01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:14,480
so they don't know what socialists are,

1619
01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:15,480
but they left us also constantly

1620
01:32:15,480 --> 01:32:16,720
no true Scotsman their positions.

1621
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,680
Well, yeah, and they misrepresent a lot, too, right?

1622
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,840
Hassan, I guess, now that he's lost all of his clout

1623
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:25,840
with the DSA crowd is back to being full-on mask-on again,

1624
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,800
and now he's retreated back to being a progressive,

1625
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,920
which is not a lesser version of a socialist or a Marxist.

1626
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:33,920
Now he's back to being Woke Bay

1627
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,000
and talking about healthcare and issues

1628
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:37,920
for minorities or whatever, progressive shit,

1629
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,200
or he's using this Woke Bay thing.

1630
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:40,200
I'm Woke, I'm Woke, I'm Woke, I'm Woke,

1631
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:41,400
we're so woke over and over again,

1632
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:44,120
'cause he wants to go mask-on as a progressive again.

1633
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,200
- It's really dumb, really stupid.

1634
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:49,360
Also, though, I get a little bit--

1635
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,880
Here's a frustration I had, I think this is a prime example

1636
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,120
of this, I think it's good to be clear and say,

1637
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,160
that was wrong, I disagree with James,

1638
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:57,960
I don't even know if James was James on this,

1639
01:32:57,960 --> 01:32:59,640
that's part of the other thing.

1640
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:03,320
But also, then the follow-up to that

1641
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:07,680
is like, does anybody think that it is helpful

1642
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,840
for the Democrats in the next 12 days

1643
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,520
to spend a lot of time yelling about James Carville

1644
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,040
right now, shouldn't that energy be sent somewhere else?

1645
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,480
And I look at James, who said something that I totally

1646
01:33:19,480 --> 01:33:21,680
disagree with, but here's something simultaneously

1647
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,080
that's true about James.

1648
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:26,600
Like, if you talk to Dem strategists and say,

1649
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,800
hey, I wanna put somebody's name on these annoying emails

1650
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:32,520
that ask for money, like the best name you can put on there

1651
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,880
is Michelle Obama, and like James is like the second

1652
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:36,800
or third best name, if you just look at like the data

1653
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:38,560
of like, what results, I don't know why that is,

1654
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:40,080
whatever, he's famous, he became famous,

1655
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,720
that works, and his old boomer, Dem, you know,

1656
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:43,640
Dem's given five--

1657
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:48,400
See, it's so funny, because Tim is like coming at them

1658
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,560
with a wonderful childlike naivety in good faith.

1659
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,040
It's like, well, we should be focusing on Republicans, right?

1660
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:55,920
So like, I know you guys are telling, you know,

1661
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:57,680
my coworkers in real stop attacking his son Parker,

1662
01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:58,920
and I totally agree, but like,

1663
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,040
shouldn't you guys not be attacking Carville

1664
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,000
and everything then, why are you guys talking about him?

1665
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,200
But the reality is, is that they're not giving

1666
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,360
those recommendations in good faith.

1667
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:08,920
They just don't want their side to be attacked

1668
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,920
while they endlessly attack Democrats, that's it.

1669
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,160
Like, that's every single strategy they have

1670
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,560
is to enable them, to always be able to attack Dems,

1671
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,280
and to never get attacked on their own.

1672
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,800
Even that saying that they have over and over again,

1673
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,160
where they go, where Hassan, and you hear a lot

1674
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:24,360
of them saying this now, right?

1675
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,320
Don't bite at the Republican framing, guys.

1676
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,240
Don't accept the Republican framing, guys.

1677
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,320
Don't let the Republicans frame this issue for you.

1678
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:31,480
Well, hold on.

1679
01:34:31,480 --> 01:34:35,360
If you are to the left of the Democratic Party,

1680
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,040
isn't every single attack on you,

1681
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,320
going to be technically like a Republican type framing?

1682
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,200
Like, they're gonna attack you because you're

1683
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,120
very far to the left, and we would attack you

1684
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:45,520
because you're to the left of us.

1685
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,000
Doesn't that definitely mean we can never attack you then?

1686
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,160
Right, every single time they play this game, right?

1687
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:51,840
Don't punch left, punch right.

1688
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:52,920
Well, you're to the left of me,

1689
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:54,200
and I'm to the right of you.

1690
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:55,320
So the time you're always punching me,

1691
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:56,480
and I'm never punching you back, right?

1692
01:34:56,480 --> 01:34:58,800
Every single strategy that they employ

1693
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:00,240
is always used to max out.

1694
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,680
to maximize criticism of liberals,

1695
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,360
'cause let's be real, they fight with fucking liberals

1696
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:05,600
way more than they would fucking Republicans,

1697
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,160
'cause Republicans love these guys.

1698
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:08,320
It's always to fight with liberals

1699
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,960
and it's always to make us the liberals can't fight back.

1700
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:11,840
Every single time.

1701
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,200
Destiny, have you noticed that you claim

1702
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,120
they're vastly different, but not once in your life,

1703
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:22,600
have you explained how they're different?

1704
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:26,040
What, Marxists and far left liberals are progressives?

1705
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,000
What do you mean, I feel like I've done this a lot?

1706
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,760
A Marxist socialist believes that the singular

1707
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,200
point of analysis that matters through all of society

1708
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:36,400
is the lens of class, so they will exclusively

1709
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:39,040
wanna talk about people's relationship to capital.

1710
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:40,320
So are you a worker?

1711
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:41,880
That makes you a laborer.

1712
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:43,760
Are you a owner?

1713
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,520
That makes you a capitalist.

1714
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,640
All the capitalists are evil and this is most

1715
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:52,600
exemplified in the fuck billionaire rhetoric, right?

1716
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,640
'Cause billionaires are the ultimate capitalist, right?

1717
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:56,680
It's most exemplified in the fuck billionaire rhetoric

1718
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:01,280
and then it's also exemplified in a lot of the types

1719
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,560
of economic things that they push for,

1720
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,080
which is, so the reason why they don't like means testing

1721
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,200
is because they think that every single person

1722
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:09,920
is entitled to the same things

1723
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,720
and they don't wanna draw distinctions

1724
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,400
between any type of worker.

1725
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:16,740
It allows for greater identification

1726
01:36:16,740 --> 01:36:17,960
across a greater group of people

1727
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,440
because now all the workers can be aligned

1728
01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:21,320
instead of being cut up into our arbitrary little groups

1729
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:24,320
by the capitalist dogs, like by black people and women

1730
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:25,800
and everything else, so they like to collapse.

1731
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:27,800
They tend to not talk about social issues.

1732
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:31,720
This is why I say that Hassan goes mask on as a progressive

1733
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:33,560
because a Marxist doesn't care about social issues.

1734
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,000
A Marxist will not talk about black issues

1735
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,320
or a Marxist will not talk about women's issues.

1736
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,760
They'll just say, all of this is actually downstream

1737
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:44,360
from class and if you talk about these social issues,

1738
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,200
that's the capitalist actually pulling the wool

1739
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:47,440
over your eyes.

1740
01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:48,880
Hassan has said this verbatim before.

1741
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:52,560
Again, now he's back on his woke bay grift

1742
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,440
but Marxists generally don't wanna talk about class related,

1743
01:36:55,440 --> 01:36:57,020
or I'm sorry, they don't wanna talk about

1744
01:36:57,020 --> 01:36:59,320
in poll identity politics related things.

1745
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,520
This is another reason why they have such a difficult time

1746
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:05,040
capturing black voters because they can ever appeal

1747
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,160
to black voters, all they have to do,

1748
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:09,080
or all they do is constantly try to tell them like,

1749
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,600
well, didn't you know that MLK was a socialist

1750
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:13,320
and Malcolm X, you talked about socialism

1751
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:14,920
and these guys actually hated capitalism too

1752
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:16,520
because they were social, I don't even think that's true

1753
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:18,680
about MLK, but they always try to point to like,

1754
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,760
oh, the black panthers or some socialist black group

1755
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:23,560
to say that black people should not be socialists as well

1756
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,920
and then we can all have solidarity or whatever.

1757
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:29,000
But yeah, Marxists fundamentally do not deal with

1758
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:30,840
or don't want to deal with class,

1759
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:32,840
or I'm sorry, anything beyond class related stuff.

1760
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:34,160
They wanna collapse all of it down to there.

1761
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,840
And then on top of all of that, on top of all of that,

1762
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:42,040
they have like different rules for how they do politics

1763
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:45,120
because class is the only thing that matters

1764
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:47,280
and because like a socialist revolution

1765
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,280
is the only thing that matters, they're able to take

1766
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:52,160
like what they perceive to be as their largest enemy to that,

1767
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,440
which they would say is the capital class,

1768
01:37:54,440 --> 01:37:55,880
which they would say is most exemplified

1769
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:57,680
by like the United States of America.

1770
01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:00,200
And then they take that exemplified thing

1771
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,800
and then they, I think the concept is campism.

1772
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:06,160
They will align themselves with every opposition

1773
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,000
to what they perceive to be as the capital class

1774
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:11,000
or the institutions of the capital class.

1775
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,080
So this is why they'll support the enemies

1776
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:15,840
of the United States or support enemies to allies

1777
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:16,680
of the United States.

1778
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:17,520
This is why they're all pro-Palestinian,

1779
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:18,840
they're not actually pro-Palestinian,

1780
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:20,320
they're just actually anti-Israeli.

1781
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:23,320
So not even anti-Israeli, they're actually just anti-American

1782
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:24,880
and Israel's an ally to America.

1783
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:26,160
This is why sometimes conservatives

1784
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:27,400
and other people will get tripped up

1785
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:29,840
when they're trying to criticize these guys

1786
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:31,480
and saying like why are you guys so pro-Islam

1787
01:38:31,480 --> 01:38:32,880
or why are you guys all pro-Muslim or pro,

1788
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:33,720
they're not actually

1789
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,320
because they'll all shit on Saudi Arabia as well.

1790
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:37,000
Listen to how someone, he brings up Saudi Arabia,

1791
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:38,440
it's always in an incredibly negative frame

1792
01:38:38,440 --> 01:38:39,960
because Saudi Arabia is an ally to the United States

1793
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,240
and then they'll be pro-Iran or they'll be pro-Assad,

1794
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,000
not pro-Syria or pro-Assad, it's why they're pro-China,

1795
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:46,760
it's why they'll say they're anti-imperialist

1796
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:48,240
but they'll defend lightly

1797
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:49,960
while in the beginning they hardcore defended Russia's

1798
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:50,880
invasion into Ukraine

1799
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,240
or why they'll give so many excuses to pass,

1800
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,440
heavily criticizing Russia for it.

1801
01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:58,200
It's why they will, it's why they gave

1802
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:00,560
China the pass on Tibet, it's why they,

1803
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:05,920
they don't talk about any of the Soviet expansionism

1804
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,960
or imperialism during the Cold War era.

1805
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:11,680
Yeah, I don't know, I feel like I've heard this all before.

1806
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:13,360
- I've got, but it works.

1807
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,240
And he's putting his, if you look in your inbox,

1808
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:16,960
anybody watching this and search James Carvel,

1809
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:18,880
if you get to emails, you're probably getting an email

1810
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:20,120
from James Carvel, asking for money.

1811
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:21,880
- Oh, and then finally, it also explains

1812
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:23,360
how they pick their political positions,

1813
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,120
it's why they don't pick political positions

1814
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:27,200
that can actually advance a cause, right?

1815
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,240
Medicare for All is not a real political position,

1816
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,560
it's not even a real policy, it's a healthcare position

1817
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,360
that I've said this many times is more extremist

1818
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:37,320
than any European than any healthcare system on the planet.

1819
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,840
But the reason why they pick these untenable,

1820
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,280
impossible political policies is because

1821
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:43,960
if you've picked an impossible political policy,

1822
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,080
it means you can always go to war with the political class

1823
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:47,800
that you're not controlling, right?

1824
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,160
You can always say that this politician is bad, why?

1825
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,440
Oh, because he doesn't support policy A and policy B,

1826
01:39:52,440 --> 01:39:54,080
both those policies are literally impossible.

1827
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:55,800
No elected leader will ever support these policies

1828
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:57,880
or can't really support these policies in any real number

1829
01:39:57,880 --> 01:39:59,440
because there's no way to actually achieve them.

1830
01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:00,280
So it always--

1831
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,000
let's them draw a clear line between the us and them.

1832
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:03,680
And it's also why they're all populist in nature.

1833
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:06,320
They always can vaguely allude to this creepy,

1834
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,800
billionaire class, political class, deep state class,

1835
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:09,640
because at the end of the day,

1836
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:11,160
they're fighting against the US establishment

1837
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:12,000
and the capital class and everything.

1838
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:13,420
Anyway, and it wants them to make enemies

1839
01:40:13,420 --> 01:40:16,120
out of any single person that is not on their team

1840
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,200
and represents the capital class

1841
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,440
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1842
01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:24,400
James, again, 82 is out there.

1843
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,280
He's in Mississippi raising money

1844
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:28,040
for fucking Scott Colomb's race.

1845
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:30,360
Is that the goal, revolution, not solution to policy?

1846
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:31,960
No, they want, yeah, they always advocate

1847
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:35,240
for revolutionary things, that's what revolutionary means.

1848
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:39,320
Policies are a way to appease the workers

1849
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,400
by avoiding giving them what they really want or need.

1850
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,440
Appeasement, things like the Affordable Care Act,

1851
01:40:45,440 --> 01:40:47,640
appeasement is the thing that you do

1852
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:49,160
when you are a capitalist who's afraid

1853
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:52,160
of losing control of society or losing your power.

1854
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:55,800
So instead of, in order to stave off revolution,

1855
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:58,440
you let them eat cake or whatever.

1856
01:40:58,440 --> 01:41:02,120
You give the workers a little slice of cake

1857
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,720
for them to feast on while you run away

1858
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,080
with your massive, massive cake, I don't know.

1859
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:09,080
Can't liberals do the same?

1860
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,080
Find wedges between leftists and progressive people

1861
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:12,800
and blast that wedge issue full force?

1862
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,080
Yeah, of course you could, but for that,

1863
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,560
progressives or liberals would need to understand

1864
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,520
that Marxists and socialists are a different thing in kind.

1865
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:21,920
They're a different thing in kind.

1866
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,600
If you wanna destroy, if you wanna destroy

1867
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,080
a fucking socialist, do it on Ukraine Russia.

1868
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:28,360
Ask them if we should have a full throat

1869
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:29,200
of support of Ukraine.

1870
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,320
It would be, some of them might maybe,

1871
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,360
well, I don't know, but I actually don't know.

1872
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:35,080
I've never heard them give a strong defense of that.

1873
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:36,600
And considering they constantly undermine things

1874
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:38,160
like NATO and everything, I don't know if they could.

1875
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,240
If you wanna really fuck 'em up,

1876
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:41,560
then talk about black issues.

1877
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:43,080
How do they feel about things like affirmative action?

1878
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:44,400
How do they feel about things like DEI?

1879
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,400
Or how do they feel about women's issues or feminism?

1880
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:50,520
They hate talking and they can never represent

1881
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:54,600
like a clear stance on like black issues,

1882
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:56,240
black issues are the things that kill them the most.

1883
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,080
But the reason why is because when you talk to a Marxist

1884
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:02,280
about black issues, they're gonna sound like a 16 year old

1885
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:05,320
who's just read Ayn Rand talking about libertarianism,

1886
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,880
where if you talk to a 16 year old who's read Ayn Rand,

1887
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:09,240
you go, hey, what are the problems in society?

1888
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:11,080
They'll say, oh, not enough freedom.

1889
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:13,680
Every single problem is caused by the Federal Reserve,

1890
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,440
the leaving of the gold standard and government intervention.

1891
01:42:16,440 --> 01:42:18,040
That's the thing that's keeping us

1892
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:20,480
from achieving maximum freedom and harmony.

1893
01:42:20,480 --> 01:42:22,720
Maximum peace and happiness and joy in life

1894
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:25,040
literally comes from a reduction in government intervention.

1895
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:26,720
That's the answer to literally every single problem.

1896
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:30,160
A Marxist will treat capital classes the exact same way.

1897
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:31,440
Why aren't black people happy?

1898
01:42:31,440 --> 01:42:34,080
It does nothing to have racism or historic or whatever.

1899
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:35,400
It has to do with capitalism.

1900
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:37,640
That's one of the reasons why when they talk about things

1901
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:39,460
like historic injustice is done to blacks,

1902
01:42:39,460 --> 01:42:42,200
they'll use language and they'll use talking points

1903
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,320
to reframe it as a capital problem.

1904
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:46,960
Fuck, who does I listen to say this?

1905
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:48,640
When they talk about like it was like capitalist

1906
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,120
that brought over like black slaves.

1907
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,760
Like if you listen to like a Marxist talk about slavery,

1908
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:54,240
they will talk about even slavery

1909
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,720
through the lens of class dynamics,

1910
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,040
that it was like rich capital owner people

1911
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,160
that were bringing over slaves to work them

1912
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:02,160
in the farms and everything.

1913
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,960
And capitalism was the invention of slavery, basically.

1914
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,200
- And Cindy, if the emails are probably getting an email

1915
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:10,640
from James Carter blasting for money.

1916
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,600
James, again, 82 is out there.

1917
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:15,480
He's in Mississippi raising money

1918
01:43:15,480 --> 01:43:18,040
for fucking Scott Colom's race against Cindy Had Smith.

1919
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:19,760
Wouldn't it be awesome if Scott Colom won?

1920
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:23,400
He's in like Pennsylvania and the red parts of Pennsylvania,

1921
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:25,440
you know, helping like Paige Cagnetty

1922
01:43:25,440 --> 01:43:27,800
and some of the other candidates running in those races.

1923
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:31,520
So like, he's a dude who could just be counting his money

1924
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,640
and sitting on his ass watching LSU big games

1925
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,120
and like getting drunk off whiskey.

1926
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,440
And he's like out there, like campaigning,

1927
01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:38,400
like trying to help Democrats,

1928
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:39,640
trying to raise money for Democrats.

1929
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:43,640
So like, I'm cool with saying James, that's a stupid thing.

1930
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:45,840
But then sometimes I think that like the emphasis

1931
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,200
is like wrong and it's like, oh man,

1932
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,240
you know, like who's doing more to help Democrats right now?

1933
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,040
Like the guy that's out there raising money

1934
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:53,000
for all these people,

1935
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,840
but the person, you know, sitting on their phone,

1936
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,440
posting on Instagram about how James Garfield's a prick.

1937
01:43:58,440 --> 01:44:00,320
(laughing)

1938
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,840
- If her son said that though, what would the reaction be?

1939
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:03,680
- It'd be mad.

1940
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:04,520
- That's what I was gonna say.

1941
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:05,360
- People would be mad.

1942
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:06,200
You said it.

1943
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:07,040
People were mad.

1944
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:07,880
- And that's the thing.

1945
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:08,720
- I wouldn't say it either.

1946
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:09,560
That's the thing, right?

1947
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,440
- You were going 20, which I think is a real difference.

1948
01:44:11,440 --> 01:44:13,480
- You didn't, you didn't 20 though.

1949
01:44:13,480 --> 01:44:14,920
- Well, I've always, so here's the thing.

1950
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:17,880
I've always gone back and forth between the green party

1951
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:19,120
and Democrats in my life,

1952
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:21,880
but I would maintain every time I voted for the green party,

1953
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:24,920
it was because the Democrats were every time.

1954
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,080
When he says every time I voted for the green party,

1955
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,200
what he forgets to say is he's voted for the green party

1956
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:33,520
every time he endorsed Jill Stein for the last three elections.

1957
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,160
Every, for the last three elections,

1958
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:36,800
he's endorsed Jill Stein.

1959
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:37,640
Hello.

1960
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,000
- We're acting too much like Republicans,

1961
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:44,440
whereas James criticism is Democrats shouldn't act

1962
01:44:44,440 --> 01:44:47,640
like full Democrats, which is now like DSA ideology.

1963
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:49,760
- That's my issue is that there's a real ideological

1964
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:51,800
that they're sorry to cut you off, Crystal, go ahead.

1965
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:56,080
- Well, I was just going to say on that question of emphasis,

1966
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,040
I think this opens up the--

1967
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,320
- There's also this annoying thing that he just said,

1968
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,320
I have tons of sympathy for people that change their ideas.

1969
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:04,160
Okay, I think that's a good thing.

1970
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:06,480
I think that's a sign of being a good human being.

1971
01:45:06,480 --> 01:45:08,680
You're capable of evolving your positions.

1972
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:12,880
The problem though is that from my view,

1973
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:16,280
Kyle does not change his perspective

1974
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:19,160
and go back and forth based on his ideology.

1975
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:22,240
He goes back and forth based on where they're at election time.

1976
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,280
Such that like, oh, well, when they're getting really close

1977
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:25,320
that the Democrats are popular,

1978
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:26,440
he is a little bit more friendly

1979
01:45:26,440 --> 01:45:29,320
towards the Democratic establishment.

1980
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:30,360
And then immediately after,

1981
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:32,320
he'll go back to shitting on Democrats fucking hardcore

1982
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:33,560
because that's what, you know, it's never,

1983
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,240
or like, just based on like where the winds are blowing,

1984
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:39,120
then never taking like a strong position against

1985
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:41,080
where his audience might be or like the lefties are,

1986
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:42,360
but just like what's popular at the moment.

1987
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:43,520
That's not like, in my opinion,

1988
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,840
that doesn't represent a real change in political ideology.

1989
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:48,080
That's just opportunism.

1990
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,720
- Sort of the schism and where a lot of these discussions

1991
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:57,280
started, which is around the focus on Hassan Piker.

1992
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,200
And in a lot of ways, this isn't fair

1993
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:00,040
to lay at your feet,

1994
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,560
'cause you've defended Hassan in a lot of ways.

1995
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:03,760
- I was on the Hassan side.

1996
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,960
- You were on the Hassan side of this.

1997
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,080
But there has been, you know, whether--

1998
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:10,480
- I guess just, I don't know if he knows how crazy that is.

1999
01:46:10,480 --> 01:46:13,080
You should never, if you're a person who loves America

2000
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:14,480
and you're like, generally speaking,

2001
01:46:14,480 --> 01:46:15,800
like a lower case of liberal,

2002
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:17,920
you don't ever want to be on Hassan side.

2003
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:19,160
I don't ever want to be on the side of somebody

2004
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:20,840
who watches terrorist attacks

2005
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:22,880
and openly cheers them on on platforms.

2006
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:24,360
I don't think Tim even knows that happened.

2007
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:25,840
I think he probably thinks that's just like a rumor

2008
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:29,560
talking point because of your subversive propagandists,

2009
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:32,760
like these two, that fucking lie constantly

2010
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:34,560
about the things that everybody on their side says,

2011
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:35,560
because they're just like mega.

2012
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:39,080
They lie in obfuscate and misrepresent constantly

2013
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:41,160
about everything that their side says that's negative.

2014
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:44,120
- That's from your colleagues, Sarah Longwell,

2015
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:45,640
or from Neuritanan.

2016
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:46,960
There have been a lot of--

2017
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:48,920
- See, they have the same list of enemies as well.

2018
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:50,760
They're very good about having the list of allies

2019
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:53,440
and the list of enemies and then the list of talking points.

2020
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:58,720
- Of centrist Democrats who have spent a lot of time

2021
01:46:58,720 --> 01:46:59,560
talking and--

2022
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,760
- The same labels for enemies.

2023
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,640
To be fair, a lot of people use political labels

2024
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:05,480
and something a little bit harsher,

2025
01:47:05,480 --> 01:47:07,600
but with like centrist Democrats,

2026
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,880
like what the fuck does that even fucking mean?

2027
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,160
This wasn't even like a real expression

2028
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:14,320
like a couple years ago.

2029
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,640
And now we just like use it like centrist Democrat.

2030
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,960
You mean people that represent 80% of the base.

2031
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:22,680
You mean like the average Democrat position, right?

2032
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,000
But they say centrist Democrat because centrist

2033
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:29,360
is a signal for evil, centrist.

2034
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,440
Oh, because right now you've got the left and the right

2035
01:47:31,440 --> 01:47:32,800
and the right is fucking mega.

2036
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,200
And when you call somebody a centrist,

2037
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,040
ooh, what's the implication there?

2038
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:37,080
You're a centrist?

2039
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:40,680
- Concerned trolling over Hasanpiker.

2040
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:42,320
And so those of us on the left--

2041
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:43,840
- Concerned trolling over Hasanpiker

2042
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,840
because you could never have real criticism of him, right?

2043
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,840
The only criticism you could ever have of that guy

2044
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:52,000
must be fake.

2045
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,000
It must be manufactured.

2046
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,080
It's just concerned trolling.

2047
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:57,440
- Look at this and are like,

2048
01:47:57,440 --> 01:48:00,560
why are you fixating on this Twitch streamer right now?

2049
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:04,000
Again, how is this helping Democrats win?

2050
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:07,000
You're doing the Republicans job for them.

2051
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:09,840
Why not instead focus on what a piece of shit

2052
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,560
Mike Rogers is and how he's been for the Iran war

2053
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,720
for years and years and how corrupt he is.

2054
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:16,480
And now I just moved back from Florida.

2055
01:48:16,480 --> 01:48:20,320
Why are we picking on Abdul over, you know,

2056
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:21,800
Hasan and something that Hasan like?

2057
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:22,880
- No one is doing this.

2058
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:25,360
And again, this is just like an invented talking point.

2059
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:27,880
Or if they are, I haven't seen it.

2060
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:28,920
Oh, and actually, I'm sorry.

2061
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:29,920
I can use a heuristic here.

2062
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:31,680
I know that they're not doing this.

2063
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:32,800
And the reason why I know they're not doing this,

2064
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,000
'cause if they were, these guys would be citing the tweets.

2065
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:36,480
They'd be citing the comments.

2066
01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:38,040
They'd be citing the appearances.

2067
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,080
Just because notice what they're doing

2068
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,720
is they're claiming, why do you keep trying to sync up dual

2069
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:44,440
by criticizing Hasan?

2070
01:48:44,440 --> 01:48:47,240
And it's like, excuse me, you're trying to sync up dual

2071
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,640
by tying all criticisms of Hasan to Abdul.

2072
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:51,920
Nobody's criticizing Abdul anymore for Hasan.

2073
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:53,340
They just think that Hasan is a terrible,

2074
01:48:53,340 --> 01:48:55,640
disgusting fucking human being, which he is.

2075
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,000
And not even because of the weird personal

2076
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:58,000
attacks that he does all the time,

2077
01:48:58,000 --> 01:48:59,560
or whatever weird she does in her personal life,

2078
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:01,560
but because his political positions are abhorrent.

2079
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:03,640
They are contrary to every value or virtue

2080
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:06,360
that you should have as a freedom loving American.

2081
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:07,720
And he's a disgusting individual

2082
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:09,480
the way that he conducts himself politically.

2083
01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:13,400
But to say like, oh my God, so you're criticizing Abdul?

2084
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:14,760
No, who's criticizing Abdul?

2085
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:16,440
Why do you keep making it about Abdul?

2086
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:19,240
- It's sad on history.

2087
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:20,480
- Okay, so I have a couple of thoughts on this.

2088
01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:24,240
Number one on, like, hey, I gave near a shit

2089
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:25,480
for tweeting too much about Hasan,

2090
01:49:25,480 --> 01:49:27,720
and I gave Sarah a shit for tweeting too much about Hasan.

2091
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,360
So I agree with that critique of them.

2092
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:31,840
But I do think then sometimes the critique

2093
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:33,320
is like just dedicated to Twitter,

2094
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:35,880
and people's like, my life exists in Twitter.

2095
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:37,800
And it's like, and I'm counting your tweets,

2096
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:39,240
and that's what really matters.

2097
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:41,320
And like, I just think we should also be fair.

2098
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,680
Like, what has Sarah been doing like the last month?

2099
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:46,640
Like Sarah, in addition to doing Bullwork,

2100
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:47,640
which I just did Bullwork,

2101
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,760
but Sarah also has C4s that are running money,

2102
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:52,840
helping Democratic candidates.

2103
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,960
Sarah and I, we're an event in Ohio

2104
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:58,880
raising money for the Haitians.

2105
01:49:58,880 --> 01:49:59,880
And, you know,

2106
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,760
know that are being fucked over yeah and then also another reason why we just

2107
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:06,240
take a stronger position on this risen doll says this Democrats not having an

2108
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:09,160
actual answer Republican attacks read the Kamala is where they them stuff

2109
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:12,440
contributed to the 2024 loss why would we not directly address Republican

2110
01:50:12,440 --> 01:50:16,360
attacks now that Hassan represents the party yeah exactly you like part of

2111
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:21,600
fighting your extremists to flank is you defining who you are that's that these

2112
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:27,680
go hand in hand with each other being able to say being able to say I don't

2113
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:32,720
stand for this I don't agree with this this does not represent me or us the

2114
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:38,400
Democratic Party these are good things to be able to say the Trump

2115
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,180
administration we raise like a half million for them we flew to Ohio and then we

2116
01:50:41,180 --> 01:50:44,000
helped you know Don Leonard who's campaigning in that district while we were

2117
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:49,080
there last week you're in South Carolina North Carolina Georgia like out in the

2118
01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:52,580
world like that's what Sarah's doing like that's what near like that's what

2119
01:50:52,580 --> 01:50:56,160
Center for American Progress is doing is I don't know this details of what they're

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doing is well Sarah but Center for American Progress like for one example

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has an awesome tracker of Trump corruption I think probably the best one

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out there that they're doing so like I well I I simultaneously agree with the

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critique that I wish I could like they don't care about any of that and I don't

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know if Tim realizes it and we'll see how well they mask on here they don't

2125
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care about any of that though because those things that he just mentioned

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those help moderate Dems they don't help extremists so they don't give a fuck

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01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:27,200
about that it's not helping their political project take away some people's

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phones sometimes then I also it's just like there's like this obsession it's

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like why do the tweets matter more than like the actions and the money spent and

2130
01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:38,720
the campaigning and all the other things that we do in the podcast like I said

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someone else who's a Sarah defender most of like a like a sizzle reel of all the

2132
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time Sarah's shit talk my Rogers and I'm just like so let's just like look at

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01:51:48,480 --> 01:51:51,640
everything in full and I think that the left my last thing that's really quick

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is like I also just think that there's this strange like near and Sarah aren't

2135
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allowed to do those tweets but it's like lefties including a son I've said this

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just his face privately we've talked about this like you don't come all the

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time up through 20 yep you know what I mean and like and there was a lot of

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public criticism of that and so like you know it's kind of like not just a son

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either by the way not just a sign either Kyle did it to July 21st

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2024 Obama didn't endorse calmly yet the reason he did that is because he's

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01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:23,800
smarter than other Democratic elites and he knows that she's the second worst

2142
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candidate to be Trump behind Biden all the other idiots are thinking in terms of

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identity politics and it's her turn authoritarian bullshit right oh identity

2144
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:38,560
politics he's a Marxist they hate that it's her turn ooh referencing woman female

2145
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:43,600
that's it Paul they hate that right this is what this is how the this is how

2146
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:48,000
the Marxist social spring works so at some point Americans will learn other

2147
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,640
political ideologies that aren't just liberalism understand all these people

2148
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:55,640
function hopefully but I'm on Twitter in particular so I don't know I think that

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it's important and this was my defense of the sign actually it's important to

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look holistically instead of just like hey here the six things that get clipped

2151
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all over and over again like look holistically at what he's doing and I

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feel like the same thing should be looked at Nira and Sarah who like

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holistically are like working to help Democrats win and fight Trump and like

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01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:20,240
doing way more than most of their peers are on that front I hear you on that

2155
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Tim I hear you what there's a danger of with the approach you're taking is

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paper over the fact that there is going to be a fight for the direction of the

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01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:34,760
Democratic sure see they're not aligned on this Tim you're not aligned on this

2158
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:38,680
they understand the mission I don't know how many times this is I watch

2159
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:43,000
making Kelly talk dude after after I got fucking demonetized because Jesse

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waters ran around with my fucking clips which by the way notice Jesse waters

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01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:50,680
didn't use my clips to attack the Democratic Party he used it to attack and

2162
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:55,080
get me demonetized he used to come after me because they felt like the rhetoric

2163
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:58,920
that I was representing was a threat to the Republican Party the idea that they

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01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:03,400
do engage in rampant violent violence fetishization constantly that they're

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01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:05,920
always doing this stuff right that's rhetoric that the Republican Party

2166
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:08,960
feels like a say threat to them exact like personally which is why they'll go

2167
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:12,840
after our careers or they try to get us demonetized or banned or de-platformed

2168
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:16,680
rather than just like saying wow what can happen this guy is all Democrats are

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01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:21,080
bad like they do with Hassan who they don't view as a threat right after I got

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demonetized for that clip that ran around on Jesse waters I would listen to

2171
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:30,520
fucking it was Megan Kelly I think give my talking points verbatim one week

2172
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:37,240
later on a podcast I was shocked at how open she was I was shocked at how

2173
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:41,000
open she was when she talked about it was like basically the idea of like you

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01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:43,880
need to go at them so hard that they know that they can never come back at you

2175
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:49,080
like gee I'm gonna be as a link to this political party but yeah it's just so

2176
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:51,520
annoying because like like I'll point out like this is what we need to be

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01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:55,000
doing right back then I you know I usually a phrase tit for tat and then it

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was like well I don't know that seems like pretty aggressive Stephen and then

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every time I watch these guys going all of them know the

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mission. All of MAGA, they know the mission. They're doing all of this stuff

2181
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,840
already. These guys right here, they know the mission. They're doing this stuff

2182
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:08,020
already, right? What do I say a million times? The time to fight for the party is

2183
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now MAGA's dead, okay? MAGA's dead. When people are saying like, "Focus on MAGA."

2184
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They're doing that because they don't want to get hit. They don't want to get

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attacked. They don't want... These guys don't want to get attacked. That's why

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they constantly say focus on the party. But now, when they're having a

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01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:20,840
conversation about, "Well, should you be attacking the left?" Well, actually, I

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01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:24,920
think right now is a really important time to figure out the direction that we

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want the Democratic Party to go in. Oh, so they do know the mission. They do

2190
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:32,680
understand what they're doing. Why are we doing it? Why are we... Why are we... Why

2191
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:37,800
did they start that October 1st of 2026? Well, that's a good question. Why are we

2192
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:41,840
picking... Why are we doing this division over his son, etcetera? But, you know,

2193
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there is this divide in the Democratic Party. Nira is very much of the, you

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01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:52,120
know, the sort of legacy. The fact that Destiny thinks Crystal and Kyle are

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01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:55,200
anything close to resembling Marxism is astounding. What a way to disagree with

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no clue what you're talking about. You... Oh, I don't know if you're a lefty or a

2197
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retard or whatever. Why did I put that?

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If you listen to her talk, I'm using this one, "Retard Shatter." It's just a

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01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:27,360
further exemplify my point. But it's funny because she'll let it slip, like,

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pretty often that she hates... She'll say, like, "I don't like identity

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01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:36,840
politics. I don't like the motion." Now, I have a complaint here and that is that a

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01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:43,040
lot of the policies of the DSA in the left open borders defund the police. See,

2203
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:47,440
he doesn't understand. Open borders defund the police. DSA in the left. He's

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01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:52,200
mixing up progressives with Marxists. They're two totally different groups of

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people. And, again, I don't even blame the liberals for doing this. I'm

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01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:58,680
the fucking Republicans for constantly calling every single Democrat Marxist or

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01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:02,760
Jordan Peterson for constantly saying they're neo postmodern Marxists or whatever.

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It's fucking retarded. The idea that you can't possibly spend enough government

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money, identity politics. A lot of those things are what gave Trump his power. And

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part of the reason those of us in the establishment struggle to beat Donald

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01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:21,720
Trump is we were having.... Hold on, let me find. You go? Well, my problem is not with

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01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:24,440
your... I have my own critiques of the left, right? I think that not... I actually

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01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:26,920
think the identity politics thing came out of the Hillary Clinton campaign and was

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01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:30,000
a way for the establishment to be back the rise of the Bernie Sanders left. No...

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01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:34,480
She says it. Do you understand that she just said right there in slightly more

2216
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:38,040
mask on terms what I just said, right? What was the point of identity politics

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01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:41,840
that came out of Hillary Clinton? It's her turn. Women's issues. The only reason why

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01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:45,720
people bring up identity politics are the capital class. The capital class brings

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01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:53,480
on identity politics in order to beat back and to stifle an actual arising of

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01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:57,360
an awareness of class consciousness. They're trying to prevent class solidarity by

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01:57:57,360 --> 01:58:00,800
throwing identity politics in front of you. Hillary Clinton brought on identity

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01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:04,960
politics to beat back the Bernie Sanders left, the true leftist socialist

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01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,880
revolution. They beat it back with identity politics. She's saying it was right here.

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01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:10,920
Politics came out of the Hillary Clinton campaign and was a way for the

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01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:13,960
establishment to be back the rise of the Bernie Sanders left. No doubt the left

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01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:16,520
embraced it. I would have been a critic of quote-unquote "woke" though I hate the

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01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:19,000
word at this point. Politics that's my you know my position on my class first

2228
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:23,040
leftist. Class first leftist. I have my own critiques here. I'm not I'm not sure

2229
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:27,040
this is in Marxist. I don't know what you want me to say this is a Marxist. It is

2230
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,920
it's like it's very blatant if you don't recognize it that's fine that's on you

2231
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:33,560
but I mean that it is what it is. My analysis will be consistent and every

2232
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,080
prediction I make of their positions on the way that they navigate politics

2233
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,600
will be consistent the entire time like whatever say what you want but see

2234
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:44,440
establishment Democratic Party she has a vision that she's invested in partly

2235
01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:49,880
because that never is on etc. But you know there is this divide in the Democratic

2236
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:54,380
Party. Mira is very much of

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01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:10,800
you're reaching really far destiny and yes Kyle in particular oh I think Kyle

2238
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:15,200
Kyle fans are probably especially not gonna like me calling Kyle a Marxist

2239
01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:18,040
because a lot of you might be hanging on from his days is like a libertarian

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there are there's a thing that I say a lot it's lost its meaning now because

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01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:27,520
online we're all treated the same because it's all just fucking online and you

2242
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:31,720
know it's all the same because it's not like age-gated but I always make a lot

2243
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:36,520
of exceptions for young people to be extremists because they're young and I

2244
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:41,440
expect young people to be extreme that's what young people are a lot of people

2245
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,560
don't like the things I say about Kyle because well Kyle was a libertarian right

2246
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:48,880
he was he was a libertarian he's not like a radical fucking Marxist or leftist or

2247
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:53,720
whatever if I'm sorry this sounds really mean okay but I'm coming this I read I

2248
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:57,680
ran shit okay I did my time I put in my atlas shrug that huge horrible fucking

2249
01:59:57,680 --> 02:00:00,040
book. I did my anthem, my short stories.

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02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,080
I had my objectivist and Ron Paul face I was a huge Ron Paul supporter. Okay. I was looking

2251
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:07,760
forward to Liberty dollars that he was thinking of printing that were gold-backed dollars.

2252
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:11,000
I think ultimately decided against this because it would have been a violation of U.S. I think

2253
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:14,840
constitutional or whatever, like you're not allowed to have a competing currency. Okay.

2254
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:20,640
If somebody tells you that they are a libertarian and they're like 30 years old, this something

2255
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:24,200
has gone from this is a phase that you go through that you're supposed to grow out of.

2256
02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:28,000
If you're a libertarian well into your 20s, something didn't happen. You missed something.

2257
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:40,520
Okay. You missed something. All right. The, you know, the sort of legacy genuine question

2258
02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:47,600
how or why is it important to point out identity politics. Well, personal reasons and for whatever

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02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:52,440
and for our politics reasons. If you want to, I can give you the steel man version and

2260
02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:57,040
I give you the mean version. The steel man version is that if you are trying to fight

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02:00:57,040 --> 02:01:01,920
against a capital class in your mind, the capital class will always okay, I'm giving you the

2262
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:06,360
steel man leftist version leftist capital like leftist like social smarts version. They'll

2263
02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:10,880
say the capital class is always aligned. It doesn't matter if you are black, if you are

2264
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:15,360
white, if you are a woman, if you're whatever, if you put two billionaires in a room and they

2265
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:18,440
have to vote on something in opposition to the working class, they're always going to

2266
02:01:18,440 --> 02:01:21,880
be aligned to their interest because this is the capital ruling class. Whatever identities

2267
02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:25,840
they have will disappear immediately when it comes time for them to collaborate against

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02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:29,760
workers. So then on the flip side, when the workers have to decide how they're going to

2269
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:33,280
pursue and exercise their political power of which they have a lot of because they're

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02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:36,880
high in number, but in some ways they're lacking of because they don't have as much capital

2271
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:42,360
or resources to deploy towards political ends. The workers need to also be unified in representing

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02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:45,800
their class because the the billionaires always will be so why not the workers of the capital

2273
02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:49,560
class are. But instead the workers get caught up in things like identity politics worried

2274
02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:53,000
about women's issues, black issues or whatever else. And it presents, it prevents them from

2275
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:56,880
having a class consciousness arise out of them in the same way that the capital class

2276
02:01:56,880 --> 02:02:00,480
does have class consciousness. The billionaires are always voting to protect each other. The

2277
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:06,240
workers sometimes are divided amongst themselves fighting over class issues. This is the this

2278
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:11,280
is like the argument for why workers or laborers should not have identity politics as like a

2279
02:02:11,280 --> 02:02:14,840
huge part of any of their political platforms because all it does is prevent them from having

2280
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:18,000
like a class solidarity that would allow them to rise up and fight against the capitalists

2281
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:20,840
because the only thing the workers have are numbers because they don't have they don't

2282
02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:25,200
have a capital. And then my version of it is that I think a lot of the people won. It's

2283
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:28,520
so nice. It's just it's very nice to reduce everything to a singular issue. It makes

2284
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:32,360
it easier to understand society. I do think there are things that can't be explained

2285
02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:37,560
simply through simply through money. You know, like if that was the case, Black Wall

2286
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:40,280
Street wouldn't have been burned to the ground, you know, we wouldn't have needed the civil

2287
02:02:40,280 --> 02:02:43,280
rights act. People would have just saw black people as potential customers. And then that

2288
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:47,040
would have been enough to solve the issues. You know, a lot of the ways that we fought

2289
02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:52,120
against things like civil rights and everything wasn't by appealing to class consciousness.

2290
02:02:52,120 --> 02:02:58,040
It was by appealing to the to the moral consciousness of a human being. And then I also think that

2291
02:02:58,040 --> 02:03:01,520
a lot of the people that fight against this stuff against identity politics, I want to

2292
02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:06,080
talk about class consciousness are, I mean, what do you see on your screen right now,

2293
02:03:06,080 --> 02:03:10,080
right? You have four white people right now that are talking about politics, me, Kyle,

2294
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:14,960
Crystal, and Tim, and how nice if we could get rid of this whole identity politics dimension

2295
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:17,560
because that's not fun for me to talk about. It's not fun for them to talk about because

2296
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:20,120
fuck, I'm not black. I'm not a woman. I'm not, I don't have any of these classes I can

2297
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:23,760
talk about. But if I could reduce everything to class politics, now I'm just as invested

2298
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:27,440
in everybody else. And I can even be part of the oppressed class, right? Hassan can always

2299
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:30,400
say, remember when he talked to the firefighters, sometimes Hassan was like, I'm more like you

2300
02:03:30,400 --> 02:03:34,080
than Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos or whatever, right? Well, I'm part of the working class,

2301
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:36,360
even for making million dollars a year, I'm still part of the working class. So it gives

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02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:40,400
me more of a personal investment in the fight as well, where I get to be on the the right

2303
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:49,040
just side vision over his son, etc. But you know, Destiny here, someone on the left mentioned

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02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:52,880
class immediately assumes they're a full on revolutionary communist. That's exactly what

2305
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:56,800
I said. That's why I never talk about class, by the way, I never talk about the difference

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02:03:56,800 --> 02:04:00,160
in power between capital and labor and how that's probably the most important part of

2307
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:06,480
our tax code that we need to address or talk about how it may, I know, yeah, I, yeah, by

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02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:10,380
the way, I just gave you a better steelman of why solidarity, class solidarity is important

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02:04:10,380 --> 02:04:13,360
and identity politics is stupid. I just give you a better explanation about that. Any leftist

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retard like Hassan will ever be able to give you because they don't understand a lot of

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02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:19,400
their own political ideologies. They're frontline warriors down because they're just cloud obsessed

2312
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:23,360
fucking retards. Crystal might be able to give that explanation I gave Kyle might be able

2313
02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:26,760
to give some version of it. It involves Jews. Hassan absolutely could never give a version

2314
02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:33,640
of it because he's a fucking retard. There is this, October 1st of 2026. Well, that's

2315
02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:37,840
a good question. Why are we picking? You know, why are we doing this division over Hassan,

2316
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:44,360
Sarah, but you know, there is this divide in the Democratic Party. Mira is very much of

2317
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:50,440
the, you know, the sort of legacy establishment Democratic Party. She has a vision that she's

2318
02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:54,240
invested in partly because that's the version of the Democratic Party in which she has a

2319
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:59,840
lot of power and a lot of sway. And then Jesus, hold on. This rhetoric, class first anti-it

2320
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,780
isn't exclusive to Marxist, you see this language with Blue Dog Dems that don't like mainstream

2321
02:05:03,780 --> 02:05:07,920
liberals. In fact, this is why Bernie did so much better in 2016-2020. I don't disagree

2322
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:11,720
with you, but it's going to be for the, for the shallow, I'm going to say for the shallow

2323
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:17,640
reasons that I gave before, but it's not fair to call it a shallow reason. I think that

2324
02:05:17,640 --> 02:05:22,840
when you over index on, or when you engage in too much identity politics stuff, I don't

2325
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:29,760
think that's good. Don't, don't. Okay. I am a, I don't even know if I'd say heterodox.

2326
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:36,340
Okay. I'm just not retarded. Okay. It would be crazy to say that nothing valid can come

2327
02:05:36,340 --> 02:05:41,600
from analyzing politics through class. There is very clearly and very obviously things

2328
02:05:41,600 --> 02:05:46,400
that impact us as a result of our class. Okay. I just think that class is one of many identities

2329
02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:50,000
that impact you as a human being on this planet or in this country. Class is one of

2330
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:54,580
many ideas that can impact you. The Democratic Party, especially, you know, in the last decade

2331
02:05:54,580 --> 02:06:01,160
before 2016, had a heavy, heavy, heavy focus on parts of intersectional relationships that

2332
02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:05,680
were related to things like race and gender. Now, I think it's fine to talk about those

2333
02:06:05,680 --> 02:06:09,880
things, but if you heavily fixate on those things, of course, you're going to lose a

2334
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:13,080
whole bunch of people like white working class people who are understandably going to feel

2335
02:06:13,080 --> 02:06:17,040
left out. And when you're constantly, unfortunately, because when people advocate for one thing,

2336
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:20,440
or some human nature reason, they have to shit on the other thing. So when people are talking

2337
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:27,080
about the advancements of men or of women, I'm sorry, of black people or women, it always

2338
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:30,520
feels like they speak at the expense of white people or men, right? So it wasn't enough

2339
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:33,680
to just say like, we need to empower women. We also get to say like all men are rapists.

2340
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:37,040
Fuck all men. They hate all men. Fuck white people, white people are evil, et cetera, shit

2341
02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:41,120
like that, which understandably makes these people feel in white working class communities

2342
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:44,640
pretty shit. Because like, okay, well, I hear all day about white privilege. And you know,

2343
02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:47,720
I just had another neighbor die of fucking Fent, because my neighborhood fucking I live

2344
02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:54,040
in a disaster fucking trailer park shit, you know, the so I so in that case, you probably

2345
02:06:54,040 --> 02:06:59,000
don't want to overstate your intersectional talking points about race and everything. It

2346
02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:02,080
is probably good to focus more on class related stuff there, because those people probably

2347
02:07:02,080 --> 02:07:07,320
are feeling a lot of the weight of their, a lot of the negative experiences they have

2348
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:11,400
are due to class. But I think it's always bad to talk about class. I just think the exclusive

2349
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:16,640
analysis of something through class is beyond fucking stupid. Oh, okay. Okay, too way too

2350
02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:22,520
much reacting. Oh man, about this silently Minecraft for five hours now. Building what

2351
02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:25,600
you said, do you think that zero some thinking is intrinsic to the human mind slash thinking

2352
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:29,240
feels like naturally people gravitate towards thinking things are all zero some? Yeah, I

2353
02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:32,280
don't know why maybe evolutionarily, maybe it was important to not share too much with

2354
02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:39,440
enemy tribes or something, but it is a very human thing. I see establishment democratic

2355
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:44,000
party. She has a vision that she's invested in partly because that's the version of the

2356
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:48,240
democratic party in which she has a lot of power and a lot of sway. And then there's

2357
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:53,640
the vision that those of us on the left have where we want a different version that is

2358
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:58,200
much more reflective. And I think you would acknowledge this at this point of the policy

2359
02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:02,640
priorities of the democratic base, including the relationship. Sorry, fuck, I need to listen

2360
02:08:02,640 --> 02:08:09,360
to you. The sort of legacy establishment democratic party. She has a vision that she's

2361
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:13,160
invested in partly because that's the version of the democratic party in which she has a

2362
02:08:13,160 --> 02:08:19,000
lot of power and a lot of sway. And then there's the vision that those of us on the left have

2363
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:22,920
where we want a different version that is much more reflective. And I think you would

2364
02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:34,520
acknowledge this at this point of the policy. Crystal is no, it's not crystal. Is it Kyle?

2365
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:40,840
This is an SM58. Somebody does not have their microphone shock mounted and you can hear the

2366
02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:47,480
you can hear their footsteps. But it looks like Crystal's using AirPods, I think, and

2367
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:50,920
he's got these little things. Oh, no, he's got a mic over here. Somebody's mic is not

2368
02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:57,080
is not on a shock mount. And you can hear the oh, I can't do it because mine is not

2369
02:08:57,080 --> 02:09:01,520
good guys. And that is much more reflective. And I think you would acknowledge this at

2370
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:07,600
this point of the policy priorities of the democratic base, including a relationship.

2371
02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:12,400
What's that? Including supporting Medicare for all, including changing the relationship

2372
02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:17,200
with Israel, including checking the tech oligarchs and really like Medicare for all. This is

2373
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:20,560
not a real again. I know it makes some people might want to say it in my audience even Medicare

2374
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:27,360
for all is not a real policy. That is an extremely one dimensional view. Oh my God. Look at those

2375
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:32,640
things where we're like the actual policy itself is like never been laid out in sufficient

2376
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:36,880
detail or or the one time it has kind of sort of been laid out. It's just way too extreme.

2377
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:41,160
There's no world where you're giving that much free shit with it. No other country in

2378
02:09:41,160 --> 02:09:48,840
the planet does. It's just way too much. And then our relationship with Israel, including

2379
02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:52,200
changing the relationship with Israel. Remember what I said before for people that support

2380
02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:55,200
like Ukraine? How many people when you ask them for Ukraine, Russia, what do you think

2381
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:58,520
should do, I think that we should reevaluate our relationship with Ukraine.

2382
02:09:58,520 --> 02:09:59,920
The fuck does that even mean, reevaluate?

2383
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:04,680
evaluate our relation. What? Is that going to help the Palestinians? What are we even

2384
02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:06,240
trying to do there?

2385
02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:10,980
Well, including checking the tech oligarchs and really separating from, you know, some

2386
02:10:10,980 --> 02:10:12,960
of the corporate interests.

2387
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:18,400
Tech oligarchs and corporate interests. Now, I think that there are problems related to

2388
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:26,080
the amount of concentration of power with these tech people, but I think largely, the

2389
02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:31,280
reason why it's a problem is because of how much influence they have on our political

2390
02:10:31,280 --> 02:10:35,520
discourse. But there's an interesting conundrum here where these guys will talk about wanting

2391
02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:42,040
to check the tech oligarchs, but they only talk about it through, like, the class lens.

2392
02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:47,920
And the reason why I would be surprised if they ever said anything more than that is

2393
02:10:47,920 --> 02:10:53,160
because they actually like the influence of these people wheeled. When TikTok was about

2394
02:10:53,160 --> 02:11:00,600
to get shut down by the US government, all of the lefties all came out in unison and opposed

2395
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:05,680
any type of restriction on TikTok because they saw TikTok as being beneficial to their

2396
02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:10,440
political program, which was just shitting on and attacking the United States, right?

2397
02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:13,120
All of them said, it wouldn't surprise me if Kristall and Kyle themselves had tweets

2398
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:17,480
about it, like, Oh, wow, they want to get rid of TikTok now just because pro Palestinians

2399
02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:21,820
are finally getting their anti Israeli message out on it, right? They were all in opposition

2400
02:11:21,820 --> 02:11:27,160
to any kind of restrictions on TikTok. Now, for an added dimension of that, I'm pretty

2401
02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:31,640
sure that once we're the Adlesons behind the huge buy of TikTok, what I've heard for

2402
02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:36,760
people I trust is that TikTok was bought and all the pro Palestinian points did go away

2403
02:11:36,760 --> 02:11:42,120
and were replaced by more friendly points. So there is a degree of truth to that. But

2404
02:11:42,120 --> 02:11:46,120
it's interesting that like the solution for these people, and the reason why I don't like

2405
02:11:46,120 --> 02:11:50,400
dealing with lefties is because they don't want to fix the political system. They like

2406
02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:57,200
it being broken. They just want to use it for their own ends.

2407
02:11:57,200 --> 02:12:02,240
And so that is it. That is a real schism. And so we shouldn't be surprised that there

2408
02:12:02,240 --> 02:12:07,520
is skepticism of some of the intentions of a near attendant or Sarah. Another thing that

2409
02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:13,800
I put to you is, you know, you see, Tim, I love you, Tim, but you can't let that slide.

2410
02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:20,160
Okay. I think that if you're having a fair, like, look at the framing here. Look at the

2411
02:12:20,160 --> 02:12:25,000
framing of how they view the sides. Tim thinks that we're doing the thing again, you know,

2412
02:12:25,000 --> 02:12:28,520
go bring up my obsidian notes about the types of conversations where now it's weird because

2413
02:12:28,520 --> 02:12:32,160
this is happening by proxy, but really to Sarah, but Tim thinks he's having like a friendly

2414
02:12:32,160 --> 02:12:35,440
conversation with allies where they're trying to meet some middle ground. These are not

2415
02:12:35,440 --> 02:12:39,880
allies. These are political enemies that are trying to destroy you, right? And you can

2416
02:12:39,880 --> 02:12:47,240
tell because she didn't say that Sarah was misguided or that she disagrees with Sarah's

2417
02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:51,280
political perspectives or that she thinks that Sarah is not focusing on the right thing

2418
02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:56,600
with her. She says that she doesn't trust Sarah's intentions, right? Because Sarah's

2419
02:12:56,600 --> 02:13:06,360
intentions betray an allegiance to the capital class intention from, you know, some of the

2420
02:13:06,360 --> 02:13:12,400
corporate interest. And so that is it. That is a real schism. And so we shouldn't be surprised

2421
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:18,880
that there is Kyle tying the TikTok band to slot kin voted for eight of Trump's cabinet

2422
02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:22,240
members voted for the like and Riley, killing due process for immigrants, George W. Bush

2423
02:13:22,240 --> 02:13:26,640
National Security Advisor, first demon endorsed by Liz Cheney, pro is really genocide pro

2424
02:13:26,640 --> 02:13:30,520
TikTok band, anti student debt relief. Nice. I'm sure he has talked about the TikTok band

2425
02:13:30,520 --> 02:13:34,640
is that just being a way to silence the pro Palestinian voices on social media and the

2426
02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:39,360
tech oligarchs and really separating from, you know, some of the corporate interest. And

2427
02:13:39,360 --> 02:13:45,680
so that is it. That is a real schism. And so we shouldn't be surprised that there is skepticism

2428
02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:50,000
of some of the intentions of a near attendant or Sarah. And the other thing that I put to

2429
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:57,480
you is, you know, you skepticism is different than maligning intention. So yeah, Tim is

2430
02:13:57,480 --> 02:14:02,400
close there. Yeah, skeptical. Well, like when we say skepticism, what do we mean there?

2431
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:06,800
Right? And and Crystal gave the game away. But I say give it away. She's not like that

2432
02:14:06,800 --> 02:14:09,920
mask on really. If you know what to listen for, she's not really that mask on. But it's

2433
02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:12,480
like, again, if you if you disagree with the things that's her saying, and you think that

2434
02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:17,680
she has ideas that aren't going to fix her problems, whatever, that's fine. But skeptical

2435
02:14:17,680 --> 02:14:24,480
of her intentions, intentions are some people are like, are really maligning people.

2436
02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:29,600
Well, let me let me just say to you, Tim, because and then Crystal doesn't agree. She'll

2437
02:14:29,600 --> 02:14:33,280
never, I don't think she's done this a single time, her or car. They've never thrown Tim

2438
02:14:33,280 --> 02:14:38,400
a bone when it comes to defending his political, who he considers to be

2439
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:43,200
political allies, right? There's always a go, well, but well, maybe, well, I don't

2440
02:14:43,200 --> 02:14:46,080
know, right? She she doesn't ever give a reassurance here, which is what Tim is

2441
02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:49,120
looking for on a political level and on a human level. Can you give me some

2442
02:14:49,120 --> 02:14:53,680
reassurance that you're not saying that my my coworker is fucking evil, please?

2443
02:14:53,680 --> 02:14:58,880
That's not being given. She's fighting on every point here to explain why that

2444
02:14:58,880 --> 02:14:59,960
that political disagreement.

2445
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:04,700
it exists. And I'm sorry, hold on, not political disagreement, but why the accusation or the

2446
02:15:04,700 --> 02:15:10,200
assumption that your co-worker is actually a bad faith malicious actor, why that exists.

2447
02:15:10,200 --> 02:15:14,300
Crystal ties TikTok ban to Israel. Now that God says this is true, now the party cares

2448
02:15:14,300 --> 02:15:18,000
about banning TikTok anymore, kind of revealing about what this was really about the whole

2449
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:21,880
time in Palestine. Oh, yeah. Maybe I'm directly to the TikTok ban garnered bipartisan support

2450
02:15:21,880 --> 02:15:28,320
because of Israel criticism. Yeah. Yeah. So that's why I'm saying like they're the way

2451
02:15:28,320 --> 02:15:32,360
that they practice politics. When they talk about the tech oligarchs, they had, they're

2452
02:15:32,360 --> 02:15:35,080
so good at choosing their language. This is what sucks too is they have a lot of political

2453
02:15:35,080 --> 02:15:41,040
sophistication, but they use it for for evil. I say political sophistication. What I really

2454
02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:45,760
should say though is like just like propaganda and lying. But they use terms that sound good.

2455
02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:49,240
Like, oh, I have problems with tech oligarchs, right? We all do, right? We don't like Elon

2456
02:15:49,240 --> 02:15:53,560
Musk and Barry Weiss and all these billionaire weirdo people like buying up our media and

2457
02:15:53,560 --> 02:15:58,320
everything, right? True. But they don't have a problem with it because of the corrupting

2458
02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:03,320
influence on social media. They have a problem with because I don't own their team. And I

2459
02:16:03,320 --> 02:16:07,840
think that this is also most revealed when you look at how against billionaires, these

2460
02:16:07,840 --> 02:16:12,680
guys are so against billionaires. All of them are such that they were like saying that if

2461
02:16:12,680 --> 02:16:18,160
you were a billionaire, it's basically there's no possible world where you could ever be considered

2462
02:16:18,160 --> 02:16:24,120
a moral person ever. But all of that disappeared when Tom Steyer was on their side, none of

2463
02:16:24,120 --> 02:16:33,600
that Tom Steyer went on a son pikers stream. He was on his stream. Like what? What happened?

2464
02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:39,400
Because he's on their side. You wrote an entire book, which I read, which was sort of a maricopa

2465
02:16:39,400 --> 02:16:46,480
of, you know, here's where I was. Here's where I was wrong. Here's where I am now. And to

2466
02:16:46,480 --> 02:16:50,600
me, that's part of why, you know, you were the person I reached out to, Hey, let's have

2467
02:16:50,600 --> 02:16:54,280
you on breaking points. Let's cohosts, let's like work through some of these things. Because

2468
02:16:54,280 --> 02:17:00,760
to me, that showed genuine reflection on where you'd been and where you wanted to be now.

2469
02:17:00,760 --> 02:17:05,840
And I haven't seen that same thing from not to pick on her again, but from a Sarah, you

2470
02:17:05,840 --> 02:17:09,540
know, or from Jesus. Hold on. Let me listen to that whole thing again, an entire book,

2471
02:17:09,540 --> 02:17:14,880
which I read, which was sort of a maricopa of, you know, here's where I was. Here's where

2472
02:17:14,880 --> 02:17:21,000
I was wrong. Here's where I am now. And to me, that's part of why, you know, you were

2473
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:24,480
the person I reached out to, Hey, let's have you on breaking points. Let's cohosts. Let's

2474
02:17:24,480 --> 02:17:30,280
like work through some of these things. Because to me, that showed genuine reflection on where

2475
02:17:30,280 --> 02:17:35,720
you'd been and where you wanted to be now. And I haven't seen that same thing from not

2476
02:17:35,720 --> 02:17:43,320
to pick on her again. But from a Sarah, like Sarah has, I would argue that Sarah's bonafides

2477
02:17:43,320 --> 02:17:47,040
are unquestionable. If you're looking for somebody who's resisting the Trump movement

2478
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:50,760
and is trying to push her country in a different direction, like I would never doubt that she

2479
02:17:50,760 --> 02:17:55,080
like the focus group she's done, probably the largest. I whoever we watched interviewer

2480
02:17:55,080 --> 02:17:59,240
talk about it yesterday said it. That's like, these are probably the most the highest quantity

2481
02:17:59,240 --> 02:18:04,280
of qualitative focus grouping that have been done in the entire past couple years. We're

2482
02:18:04,280 --> 02:18:08,560
letting the Trump stuff she's, you know, then tons of shows, obviously criticizing Trump

2483
02:18:08,560 --> 02:18:13,040
had tons of guests is doing fundraising and everything else like this is not a real question.

2484
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:20,000
So that's a really, really, really weird thing to try to call her into question for, you know,

2485
02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:25,400
or from a bill crystal where it's okay. So her problem with the question or problem with

2486
02:18:25,400 --> 02:18:31,320
these people with Bill Crystal and Sarah, the real problem is not that she thinks that

2487
02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:34,960
they haven't had a, you know, like a real reflective moment on why they were wrong in

2488
02:18:34,960 --> 02:18:40,120
the past, it's that she thinks that that type of moment, if it's truly going to happen,

2489
02:18:40,120 --> 02:18:45,160
it has to come in the form of you're now a socialist. You think that all the other bullshit

2490
02:18:45,160 --> 02:18:49,280
is a lie or whatever. And now you are going to join my team and be at least socialist

2491
02:18:49,280 --> 02:19:01,120
adjacent. You also noticed, um, you also noticed that, um, I'm going to run this a lot. One

2492
02:19:01,120 --> 02:19:04,040
thing I noticed that there's a little bit more conspiratorial, but like it's not super

2493
02:19:04,040 --> 02:19:09,760
conspiratorial is that they're really playing this game on dividing Tim away from the bulwark

2494
02:19:09,760 --> 02:19:13,200
where they, I don't ever hear any of these guys talk about anybody else on the bulwark

2495
02:19:13,200 --> 02:19:16,000
besides Tim and Sarah, like there are other members of the bulgars. I don't hear them

2496
02:19:16,000 --> 02:19:20,280
talk about JBL or any of these other people, which is strange. Um, but they've been doing

2497
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:24,760
this huge assignment recently of trying to only focus on Sarah and be kind of friendly

2498
02:19:24,760 --> 02:19:28,880
towards Tim. I feel like I've heard Hassan do this as well explicitly, where he tells

2499
02:19:28,880 --> 02:19:32,720
people like, Hey, hey, don't attack Tim or whatever. Um, I feel like I've heard a son

2500
02:19:32,720 --> 02:19:35,840
say that explicitly. But it's very weird. And now they're literally telling him, that's

2501
02:19:35,840 --> 02:19:39,840
why I trust you, Tim. I'm drawing you here to talk to you is the reasonable guy, um,

2502
02:19:39,840 --> 02:19:44,280
about how evil your coworker Sarah is. Cause she is evil, by the way. And we don't

2503
02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:47,040
trust her. We don't even trust her intentions. Cause she's so evil. It's like,

2504
02:19:47,080 --> 02:19:52,800
jeez. Okay. You know, or from a bill crystal where it's okay. So, so there's a

2505
02:19:52,800 --> 02:19:57,800
question in my mind of, have these people's policies changed? Or are they just

2506
02:19:57,800 --> 02:19:59,960
uncomfortable with this current iteration of

2507
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,240
Republican Party, and they want to take this.

2508
02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:03,040
Wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry.

2509
02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:03,840
Hold on a quick thing.

2510
02:20:03,840 --> 02:20:04,720
This is funny.

2511
02:20:04,720 --> 02:20:06,000
If this is trying, I remember this one second.

2512
02:20:08,720 --> 02:20:09,920
2020.

2513
02:20:09,920 --> 02:20:12,720
Tom Steyer angrily demanding we talk about race.

2514
02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:13,920
Could have given the 200 million.

2515
02:20:13,920 --> 02:20:16,560
You just blew on ads to black folks, but go off.

2516
02:20:18,400 --> 02:20:20,160
Ooh, doesn't like those id poll.

2517
02:20:20,160 --> 02:20:21,760
The identity politics things.

2518
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:23,120
Back in 2020, by the way.

2519
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:26,560
The only good billionaire is a class trader.

2520
02:20:26,560 --> 02:20:27,600
Vote Tom Steyer.

2521
02:20:27,600 --> 02:20:29,200
That's in 2026, though.

2522
02:20:30,960 --> 02:20:32,400
2026, California.

2523
02:20:32,400 --> 02:20:33,680
Vote for Tom Steyer.

2524
02:20:33,680 --> 02:20:35,920
California, the only good billionaire is a class trader.

2525
02:20:35,920 --> 02:20:36,720
Vote Tom Steyer.

2526
02:20:36,720 --> 02:20:37,600
I don't even know what that means.

2527
02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:38,720
Class trader.

2528
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:41,600
This guy paid so much money for ads and for influencers

2529
02:20:41,600 --> 02:20:42,240
to help him, whatever.

2530
02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:44,560
I'm sure he had more negative stuff to say.

2531
02:20:46,320 --> 02:20:47,360
Back in 2020 as well.

2532
02:20:47,360 --> 02:20:48,880
A lot of people didn't like that Tom Steyer was a billionaire.

2533
02:20:48,880 --> 02:20:51,520
I think he was also singularly focused on in 2020.

2534
02:20:51,520 --> 02:20:52,720
It was on environmentalism.

2535
02:20:52,720 --> 02:20:54,160
That was his big push, his thing.

2536
02:20:55,040 --> 02:20:58,000
The same, you know, Neocon or whatever the values are

2537
02:20:58,000 --> 02:20:59,600
and transplant them over here.

2538
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:02,800
And organized to take over the Democratic party

2539
02:21:02,800 --> 02:21:06,960
so that it looks like a Jeb Bush or a George W. Bush era Republican.

2540
02:21:06,960 --> 02:21:09,920
Like he's kind of laughing because this sounds, but like,

2541
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:13,840
I don't know how to communicate to these people.

2542
02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:14,320
I just don't.

2543
02:21:14,320 --> 02:21:15,280
Maybe I need to be older.

2544
02:21:15,280 --> 02:21:16,240
I mean, I'm kind of old now, right?

2545
02:21:16,240 --> 02:21:17,040
37.

2546
02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:19,440
Or maybe I need to have more of a background in formal media.

2547
02:21:19,440 --> 02:21:23,040
I don't think Tim is taking what she's saying very seriously.

2548
02:21:23,040 --> 02:21:24,000
She's being very serious.

2549
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:26,080
I don't know if Tim understands like how serious she's being.

2550
02:21:26,080 --> 02:21:29,600
And it's also funny because of how deceptive what she just said is.

2551
02:21:29,600 --> 02:21:31,520
Like Sarah wants to take over the Democratic party.

2552
02:21:31,520 --> 02:21:34,960
Sarah's views are more in line with the moderate Democrat,

2553
02:21:34,960 --> 02:21:36,560
which is the majority, the vast majority of the Democratic party,

2554
02:21:36,560 --> 02:21:38,880
than fucking crystal balls views are.

2555
02:21:38,880 --> 02:21:41,600
Sarah is way more in alignment with the Democratic party

2556
02:21:42,320 --> 02:21:44,960
than anybody on these guys's teams are.

2557
02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:47,920
But they sure don't fucking present themselves that way.

2558
02:21:47,920 --> 02:21:48,880
These guys don't.

2559
02:21:55,600 --> 02:21:58,320
Steyer bought his way on stage and defends it by saying,

2560
02:21:58,320 --> 02:22:00,080
I know the economy 2020.

2561
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:02,560
Yeah, Tom Steyer, who can go toe to toe with Trump?

2562
02:22:02,560 --> 02:22:04,880
Not you, Richie Rich 2020.

2563
02:22:04,880 --> 02:22:05,600
See the change?

2564
02:22:09,360 --> 02:22:10,080
Good party.

2565
02:22:10,080 --> 02:22:11,280
Well, I don't think we want that.

2566
02:22:11,280 --> 02:22:12,320
Nobody wants that.

2567
02:22:12,320 --> 02:22:13,600
So just to say.

2568
02:22:14,160 --> 02:22:19,200
But like he's like, like crystal is not like he's not even taking that seriously.

2569
02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:21,120
Oh, dude, I don't know how to communicate with these people.

2570
02:22:27,200 --> 02:22:29,760
Like, I don't know how like he thinks he doesn't understand that

2571
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:32,640
crystal is very, I know what class traders you fucking retard.

2572
02:22:32,640 --> 02:22:33,760
Sorry, I just mean, I don't know.

2573
02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:36,240
I don't think Tom Steyer is about to donate all of his fucking money away

2574
02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:36,720
and completely.

2575
02:22:36,720 --> 02:22:38,720
He just means that they agree with them politically now.

2576
02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:43,600
I don't know if Tim realized how serious crystal ball is here

2577
02:22:43,600 --> 02:22:46,880
and that crystal and Kyle will conduct themselves in a manner

2578
02:22:46,880 --> 02:22:50,640
by which they are constantly accusing again, look at the way they attack,

2579
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:53,280
near-attended, look at the way they attack Sarah Longwell.

2580
02:22:53,280 --> 02:22:55,200
Look at the things that Sean says and all these other lucky guys say,

2581
02:22:55,200 --> 02:22:56,800
because they're always aligned on messaging.

2582
02:22:56,800 --> 02:23:00,640
Okay, all of these people are not attacking Sarah because they think

2583
02:23:00,640 --> 02:23:02,960
that she's politically ineffective or whatever else.

2584
02:23:02,960 --> 02:23:04,480
It's because she just said it.

2585
02:23:04,480 --> 02:23:06,640
She doesn't trust Sarah's intentions.

2586
02:23:06,640 --> 02:23:11,520
She thinks that Sarah Longwell is an evil person who is masquerading

2587
02:23:12,080 --> 02:23:16,000
as a Democrat while trying to take over the Democratic Party

2588
02:23:16,000 --> 02:23:19,040
to push her neoconservative principles.

2589
02:23:19,040 --> 02:23:20,080
Like that's what she just said.

2590
02:23:20,640 --> 02:23:24,320
It's a pretty hefty, that's a big accusation, right?

2591
02:23:26,800 --> 02:23:30,400
Con or whatever the values are and transplant them over here

2592
02:23:30,400 --> 02:23:33,120
and organize to take over the Democratic Party

2593
02:23:33,120 --> 02:23:37,760
so that it looks like a Jeb Bush or a George W. Bush era Republican Party.

2594
02:23:37,760 --> 02:23:38,960
Well, I don't think we want that.

2595
02:23:38,960 --> 02:23:40,000
Nobody wants that.

2596
02:23:40,000 --> 02:23:44,560
So just to say, look, here's the other thing that I think is frustrating

2597
02:23:44,560 --> 02:23:45,120
about of this.

2598
02:23:45,120 --> 02:23:46,560
And this is like the nature of the game we're in.

2599
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:47,520
It's important to talk about this.

2600
02:23:47,520 --> 02:23:49,840
I don't expect it's not fair to expect.

2601
02:23:51,280 --> 02:23:53,200
Do you think it's a projection from our own intentions?

2602
02:23:53,200 --> 02:23:54,800
Yeah, I wouldn't call it projection, though,

2603
02:23:54,800 --> 02:23:55,680
because she's open about it.

2604
02:23:55,680 --> 02:23:57,680
Like they are trying to take over the Democratic Party.

2605
02:23:57,680 --> 02:23:58,800
And they all say this over and over again.

2606
02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:03,200
There are so many different speeches and they just say it.

2607
02:24:03,200 --> 02:24:05,200
Like their goal is to take over the Democratic Party.

2608
02:24:05,200 --> 02:24:06,320
Like they've set this over and over again.

2609
02:24:06,320 --> 02:24:06,560
Yeah.

2610
02:24:06,560 --> 02:24:08,160
Random person on the internet, for sure.

2611
02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:13,200
But even you guys, to be like, okay, I've listened to every next level podcast

2612
02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:17,680
and complete to hear Sarah's full worldview and opinion on every issue.

2613
02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:19,280
Like they're only so many hours in a day, man.

2614
02:24:19,280 --> 02:24:19,600
You know?

2615
02:24:19,600 --> 02:24:22,240
And like we're all doing work and so I understand that.

2616
02:24:22,240 --> 02:24:26,560
But like I do think I wrote the book, but like I do think that, you know,

2617
02:24:26,560 --> 02:24:30,560
we've had some pretty extensive conversations about Israel on the podcast.

2618
02:24:30,560 --> 02:24:33,200
And I think that you've heard and Sarah's talked kind of at length

2619
02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:35,680
about her views on it and the ways that it's evolved

2620
02:24:35,680 --> 02:24:40,160
and her concerns about Israel's actions and Gaza and the West Bank.

2621
02:24:40,160 --> 02:24:44,400
And I've had, but I can't cast you as my co-host over on the bulwark.

2622
02:24:44,400 --> 02:24:46,640
And I have been back on and had row on it.

2623
02:24:52,400 --> 02:24:55,040
I'll show you this this sequence, this collage.

2624
02:24:55,040 --> 02:24:58,720
But what I thought was very interesting is I want to show you this this sequence.

2625
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:05,280
This collage, this, uh, this pasty show of lives of TikTok.

2626
02:25:05,600 --> 02:25:09,480
Remember the thing that I told you that I like to ask and every like democratic

2627
02:25:09,480 --> 02:25:12,800
insider I've talked to, like they, they all have trouble with this and agree with

2628
02:25:12,800 --> 02:25:16,720
me, at least on this talking point, that like, if you want to find out what the

2629
02:25:16,720 --> 02:25:20,680
average Republican believes, you can look at any part of the Republican messaging

2630
02:25:20,680 --> 02:25:23,760
apparatus and it will always say, they will always say the same thing every

2631
02:25:23,760 --> 02:25:24,320
single time.

2632
02:25:24,640 --> 02:25:26,840
Um, so you can just look at any part and you'll know what the messaging is.

2633
02:25:27,000 --> 02:25:28,240
It's also the same for the lefties.

2634
02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:30,880
I've said this over and over again, that these guys have duplicated the

2635
02:25:30,880 --> 02:25:35,240
conservative messaging structure on the, on the left, they do this, right?

2636
02:25:35,440 --> 02:25:39,800
So anytime one of them over here says a thing, all of them will be saying the

2637
02:25:39,800 --> 02:25:43,320
thing because they are all on the same page and they all messaged the same way,

2638
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:44,920
but you can hear them talk about this here.

2639
02:25:45,720 --> 02:25:46,600
I wish we could do that.

2640
02:25:46,760 --> 02:25:47,120
Based.

2641
02:25:47,320 --> 02:25:47,560
True.

2642
02:25:47,840 --> 02:25:49,600
Unofficial DSA spokesperson is quite a part out loud.

2643
02:25:49,600 --> 02:25:50,320
After James Thaler, you go wins.

2644
02:25:50,320 --> 02:25:51,760
We have to remind him that we are the force that allowed him to win this seat of

2645
02:25:51,760 --> 02:25:52,040
power.

2646
02:25:52,160 --> 02:25:53,440
The Democratic Party is now the DSA party.

2647
02:25:53,800 --> 02:25:56,240
And then right on top of you guys, or Rottweiler, another one of these

2648
02:25:56,240 --> 02:26:00,000
like centrist liberal accounts on the timeline, but some knew he would be

2649
02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:01,920
used by Republicans and tied to Tallarigos campaign when he said this.

2650
02:26:02,040 --> 02:26:04,280
This is his way of indirectly tanking Tallarigos in the DNC.

2651
02:26:04,360 --> 02:26:06,400
You all need to remember that the DSA's entire goal is to destroy us so they

2652
02:26:06,400 --> 02:26:07,000
can replace us.

2653
02:26:07,520 --> 02:26:10,360
The great, the DSA is doing great replacement theory for, well, I mean,

2654
02:26:10,360 --> 02:26:11,240
kind of, sorry.

2655
02:26:11,280 --> 02:26:13,880
Yeah, for liberal Democrats, but he's trying to attach himself to successful

2656
02:26:13,880 --> 02:26:14,520
candidates and take credit.

2657
02:26:14,560 --> 02:26:16,480
This is why we talk about a song to stop him from trying to find himself

2658
02:26:16,480 --> 02:26:17,440
like a fucking anchor on our candidates.

2659
02:26:17,440 --> 02:26:19,360
It's like, I'm not connected to the Tallarigos campaign at all.

2660
02:26:19,440 --> 02:26:23,960
And I mentioned that in the conversation that I had, like, that's what they're

2661
02:26:23,960 --> 02:26:24,400
trying to do.

2662
02:26:24,400 --> 02:26:25,360
They're all pretty open about it.

2663
02:26:27,240 --> 02:26:29,040
Talk about what they went through in the West Bank.

2664
02:26:29,040 --> 02:26:34,120
So like we've been like updating and talking about views on that issue.

2665
02:26:34,120 --> 02:26:36,760
I mean, like Bill Crystal, I think this is the strongest soldier on.

2666
02:26:36,800 --> 02:26:38,120
See, like Tim is doing this again.

2667
02:26:38,120 --> 02:26:41,840
He's having kind of like a, I don't want to say, like, this isn't even

2668
02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:45,480
like a policy conversation, but he's talking about Israel, like it's a real

2669
02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:48,040
political issue, but it's not a real political issue.

2670
02:26:48,240 --> 02:26:52,840
This is just a proxy point that they use for their super leftist

2671
02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:54,520
Marxist socialist ideology, right?

2672
02:26:54,760 --> 02:26:58,400
Israel Palestine is just like, it's like a passcode that you have to give at a

2673
02:26:58,400 --> 02:27:02,080
door, right, where somebody's like, if you want to get into the club, knock twice

2674
02:27:02,080 --> 02:27:04,200
and say, one plus one is four, right?

2675
02:27:04,200 --> 02:27:06,440
You wouldn't respond to that and go, but one plus one isn't four.

2676
02:27:06,480 --> 02:27:07,760
He's like, well, of course it's not.

2677
02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:09,720
It's just the pass code to get in, right?

2678
02:27:10,040 --> 02:27:14,400
They don't want to hear a serious consideration on Israel Palestine or a

2679
02:27:14,400 --> 02:27:17,960
serious discussion or, you know, trying to figure out, like, what should our

2680
02:27:17,960 --> 02:27:19,040
position be or how should we update?

2681
02:27:19,040 --> 02:27:20,520
That's, that's not, they don't give a fuck.

2682
02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:21,040
They don't care.

2683
02:27:21,200 --> 02:27:22,520
They don't care about the issue.

2684
02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:23,720
They don't care about the people.

2685
02:27:23,720 --> 02:27:25,040
They don't care about the thing itself.

2686
02:27:25,240 --> 02:27:30,120
It's just a, it's like a proxy for, you know, are you on our team or not?

2687
02:27:30,120 --> 02:27:33,200
And then if you are, then the answer is, you know, full divestment from Israel

2688
02:27:33,200 --> 02:27:33,480
every way.

2689
02:27:33,480 --> 02:27:34,280
So I should perform and that's it.

2690
02:27:35,360 --> 02:27:37,760
For abolish, about what they went through in the West Bank.

2691
02:27:37,800 --> 02:27:42,120
In fact, the fact that you're even having a difficult conversation about it already

2692
02:27:42,120 --> 02:27:43,560
demonstrates that you're not on their team.

2693
02:27:44,320 --> 02:27:49,160
Like we've been like updating and talking about views on that issue.

2694
02:27:49,160 --> 02:27:52,040
I mean, like Bill Crystal, I think it was the strongest soldier on for

2695
02:27:52,040 --> 02:27:55,200
abolish ice, like, I just look at his feet.

2696
02:27:55,360 --> 02:27:57,480
If you don't, you don't have to get off quid Twitter to hear Bill

2697
02:27:57,480 --> 02:27:58,720
Crystal talking about abolish ice.

2698
02:27:58,720 --> 02:28:02,160
So look, I don't, I mean, I think that there's certainly going to still be

2699
02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:02,800
some differences.

2700
02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:05,360
I don't want to pay for them pretend like there aren't, but I also just

2701
02:28:05,360 --> 02:28:08,560
don't want to create fake differences for the purpose of like internet fighting.

2702
02:28:08,600 --> 02:28:09,240
You know what I mean?

2703
02:28:09,560 --> 02:28:11,880
And he thinks these are fake differences, but they're not fake

2704
02:28:11,880 --> 02:28:12,240
differences.

2705
02:28:12,240 --> 02:28:13,280
He thinks they're fake differences.

2706
02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:15,640
He's trying to evaluate them all from a policy perspective.

2707
02:28:15,880 --> 02:28:18,320
And in Tim's mind, he feels like we should be aligned here.

2708
02:28:18,520 --> 02:28:21,280
But again, he's looking at this as a policy debate.

2709
02:28:21,880 --> 02:28:25,960
And they're looking at it as a political ideology differentiation

2710
02:28:26,400 --> 02:28:29,240
as a, as a passcode to get into the, through the door.

2711
02:28:30,400 --> 02:28:33,840
Um, and, and I, and I think that, and I think my view is going forward

2712
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:40,440
in 28 that like, honestly, the best place for a democratic nominee, whoever

2713
02:28:40,440 --> 02:28:46,120
that is, is going to, um, to be, is like, take some stuff from both camps.

2714
02:28:46,360 --> 02:28:47,400
I, it's just my view.

2715
02:28:47,400 --> 02:28:51,040
I, like, I, I think that like a democratic nominee, like, I think

2716
02:28:51,040 --> 02:28:56,000
Kamala ended up in the sour spot where you guys didn't trust her

2717
02:28:56,000 --> 02:28:58,880
because you felt like she was a corporate establishment person

2718
02:28:58,880 --> 02:29:00,400
that had Liz Cheney on the campaign.

2719
02:29:00,680 --> 02:29:04,240
And we should say for the record, we support the record.

2720
02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:04,600
They didn't.

2721
02:29:04,600 --> 02:29:05,480
That's a fucking lie.

2722
02:29:05,840 --> 02:29:07,520
They didn't support Trump.

2723
02:29:07,760 --> 02:29:10,040
And they were very clear about their lack of support for Trump.

2724
02:29:10,480 --> 02:29:14,080
But in the final days, I think it might have been two days before the election.

2725
02:29:14,280 --> 02:29:20,080
Kyle Kalinsky made, um, I think it was a video for like the case against Trump

2726
02:29:20,080 --> 02:29:25,040
or something, but I don't believe they ever made a positive argument for Kamala.

2727
02:29:25,040 --> 02:29:29,400
And the only person they endorsed was Jill Stein, which they did, I believe in 2024.

2728
02:29:31,040 --> 02:29:31,400
I stood here.

2729
02:29:31,400 --> 02:29:31,840
I'm just saying.

2730
02:29:32,000 --> 02:29:34,360
And then a lot of moderates been structured because it's like, Hey, she's

2731
02:29:34,360 --> 02:29:38,480
a California progressive who supported, you know, whatever crazy nonsense

2732
02:29:38,480 --> 02:29:41,520
the left wing interest groups wanted about, you know, taxpayer funded sex

2733
02:29:41,520 --> 02:29:42,560
chains for criminals and shit.

2734
02:29:42,560 --> 02:29:45,600
You know, and so she ended up in the sour spot where everybody's kind of like,

2735
02:29:45,600 --> 02:29:49,800
this isn't exactly right, you know, Obama and over eight was kind of the opposite,

2736
02:29:49,800 --> 02:29:50,800
right?

2737
02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:54,040
Lefties liked him because he was so clear on the against the war in Iraq.

2738
02:29:54,320 --> 02:29:57,080
And a lot of moderates were kind of like, well, he's the note, no blue

2739
02:29:57,080 --> 02:29:58,640
states, no red states.

2740
02:29:58,920 --> 02:29:59,880
Let's all get together.

2741
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:07,960
right? And like I think in 2028 if you look forward - even know about that, right?

2742
02:30:07,960 --> 02:30:14,800
May 12th, 2024. You'll never find a video of them like this for a for like

2743
02:30:14,800 --> 02:30:18,760
Kamala Harris for a Democrat. Jill also wanted to make another phenomenal

2744
02:30:18,760 --> 02:30:21,680
point about how if you look at some of these ideas that are now viewed as the

2745
02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:24,680
duh positions on the progressive side now, a lot of it originated with the Green

2746
02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:28,400
Party, man. Student debt abolition, free college, single-payer Medicare for all,

2747
02:30:28,400 --> 02:30:31,600
the Green New Deal, you know, they've always led the charge in saying where

2748
02:30:31,600 --> 02:30:35,080
anti-war. So again, I want to wish Jill a very, very happy birthday. I want to know

2749
02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:38,120
that she has my support. I think she's very brave for running in this environment, in

2750
02:30:38,120 --> 02:30:42,200
this climate. And look, bottom line is, there is one candidate in this race who

2751
02:30:42,200 --> 02:30:47,000
is both on the ballot and anti-war. And we all know who that is. Donald Trump likes

2752
02:30:47,000 --> 02:30:49,960
to pretend he's anti-war. He's not. Sometimes Biden likes to pretend he's anti-war.

2753
02:30:49,960 --> 02:30:51,680
He's clearly not. He's arming and funding a genocide right now.

2754
02:30:51,680 --> 02:30:54,520
Cornel West, I'm not sure he's gonna get on that many ballots. And RFK, don't get me

2755
02:30:54,520 --> 02:30:57,520
started. There's a guy who pretends like he's the most anti-war, but he's also in

2756
02:30:57,520 --> 02:31:00,520
favor of Netanyahu committing a genocide and us arming and funding it. And he

2757
02:31:00,520 --> 02:31:03,320
completely dehumanizes Palestinians on a regular basis. So from where I'm sitting,

2758
02:31:03,320 --> 02:31:06,080
from my perspective, there's one candidate in this race that's doing the right

2759
02:31:06,080 --> 02:31:09,880
thing and standing on the right issues. And, you know, look, fighting for it at a

2760
02:31:09,880 --> 02:31:12,840
time that's important historically where nobody else is stepping up and doing the

2761
02:31:12,840 --> 02:31:15,040
right thing. And so again, very happy birthday to Jill Stein. Sorry, I couldn't

2762
02:31:15,040 --> 02:31:18,560
be there with you guys today. But I'm there with you in spirit. And Jill, we wish

2763
02:31:18,560 --> 02:31:22,240
the best for you moving forward. You'll never find anything like this, also

2764
02:31:22,240 --> 02:31:26,320
supporting Jill Stein at 2024. How much more of a redfly do you need? Jesus

2765
02:31:26,320 --> 02:31:32,840
fucking Christ. Like my suggestion to any Democrat that called me off the record,

2766
02:31:32,840 --> 02:31:37,040
this is my podcast, is like, I think that you should like appeal to what the

2767
02:31:37,040 --> 02:31:43,240
Dem base wants on health care and on the wars in particular. And I also think that

2768
02:31:43,240 --> 02:31:47,560
you should learn the lessons of the ways that, you know, some of the, you know,

2769
02:31:47,560 --> 02:31:50,640
lefty interest groups pushed the Democrats to take really unpopular

2770
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:57,320
positions on, you know, policing or whatever, you know, and I just, that's

2771
02:31:57,320 --> 02:32:01,480
where I'm at. And so I do think that there will obviously be differences and

2772
02:32:01,480 --> 02:32:05,520
people should hash that out. But like, I don't, I think that anybody who like

2773
02:32:05,520 --> 02:32:12,160
leans to into like picking one side of that fight, like it's gonna, just from

2774
02:32:12,160 --> 02:32:15,720
a presidential standpoint, like, a lot of times these things you end up in, that's

2775
02:32:15,720 --> 02:32:19,040
what, we only have two parties, you know, maybe if we had eight parties, we'd be in

2776
02:32:19,040 --> 02:32:21,360
different parties, right? But like, when you only have two parties, like you

2777
02:32:21,360 --> 02:32:26,320
eventually have to find some kind of synergy, you know, and can I ask you,

2778
02:32:26,360 --> 02:32:30,480
yeah, sure. One of the things that triggers no agreement anywhere on any of

2779
02:32:30,480 --> 02:32:33,840
that, by the way, no agreement anywhere on any of that, by the way, me and I said

2780
02:32:33,840 --> 02:32:38,560
just a crystal before we came on air here is when centrists start using what I

2781
02:32:38,560 --> 02:32:42,800
would consider Fox News talking points to attack the left. Like, for example,

2782
02:32:43,000 --> 02:32:48,080
bringing up these unpopular ideas in the DSA platform, right? So remember the

2783
02:32:48,080 --> 02:32:51,840
framing on this that they're using is they always attack us with Republican

2784
02:32:51,840 --> 02:32:57,480
framing, right? If you are to the left of me, my framing is always going to come

2785
02:32:57,560 --> 02:33:02,600
to some extent from the right. All you've done with these words is make it so I

2786
02:33:02,600 --> 02:33:07,680
can literally never criticize you, right? There might be things that I think are

2787
02:33:07,680 --> 02:33:12,400
fucking crazy in your platform that I agree with Republicans on, because

2788
02:33:12,400 --> 02:33:16,800
directionally, our critiques might come from a similar place. That doesn't mean

2789
02:33:16,800 --> 02:33:21,200
that my critiques are invalid though, which there's only a few of them to be

2790
02:33:21,200 --> 02:33:25,520
clear, but none of our family is crazy, though. So let me just say, hold on,

2791
02:33:25,640 --> 02:33:28,280
first of all, I would agree with most of the stuff in there. The ones that you

2792
02:33:28,280 --> 02:33:32,240
would consider crazy, like abolishing prisons or open borders, etc. None of our

2793
02:33:32,240 --> 02:33:36,440
candidates ran on those things. So when you have centrist Democrats hitting to

2794
02:33:36,440 --> 02:33:39,520
their left and saying, hitting to their left, you know, talking about abolishing

2795
02:33:39,520 --> 02:33:43,520
prisons and open borders, do you agree with me that that's basically a Fox News

2796
02:33:43,520 --> 02:33:47,720
talking point and a Republic? No, it's retarded. It's a stupid fucking idea.

2797
02:33:47,960 --> 02:33:50,800
Why the fuck would you put it in a platform? If you don't want it to

2798
02:33:50,800 --> 02:33:53,680
negatively impact your candidates, or why the fuck would your candidate

2799
02:33:53,680 --> 02:33:57,040
destroy in a platform? If it doesn't represent things they believe in. This is

2800
02:33:57,040 --> 02:34:02,120
the dumbest. Now, I would say it is dumb. If you were practicing, or if you're

2801
02:34:02,120 --> 02:34:07,320
just like kind of looking at it from a, I don't know, I wanted a different word

2802
02:34:07,320 --> 02:34:10,760
than honest point of view, right? But remember, these guys are propagandists,

2803
02:34:10,880 --> 02:34:13,680
right? It's important for you to endorse the entire platform, because they do

2804
02:34:13,680 --> 02:34:16,640
probably agree with the crazy shit in there. Yeah, I think Kyle himself said he

2805
02:34:16,640 --> 02:34:19,680
agrees with most of it. He probably does agree with the crazy shit in there. So

2806
02:34:19,680 --> 02:34:21,680
the reason why they don't want you criticizing it isn't because they feel

2807
02:34:21,680 --> 02:34:23,760
like it's not that they feel like it doesn't represent them, it's that they

2808
02:34:23,760 --> 02:34:24,600
just don't want to criticize.

2809
02:34:25,960 --> 02:34:29,840
Can attack that centrist or echoing against their left flank because that's

2810
02:34:29,840 --> 02:34:33,280
where a lot of my anger comes from is watching down a fold and seeing that

2811
02:34:33,800 --> 02:34:36,480
centrist are getting played by Republicans bullshit bullshit. And they're

2812
02:34:36,480 --> 02:34:40,320
saying we are getting played by Republicans, because you guys are saying

2813
02:34:40,320 --> 02:34:44,160
retarded shit in your national DSA level platform, like abolish the fucking

2814
02:34:44,160 --> 02:34:49,080
Senate, and then going on Fox News to abolish prisons, like the own the co

2815
02:34:49,080 --> 02:34:53,160
chair of the DSA went on to Fox News to defend all this shit. We're not allowed

2816
02:34:53,160 --> 02:34:56,480
to talk about it. Remember, by us not talking about it, it makes it look like

2817
02:34:56,480 --> 02:34:59,120
we agree with it. That's another issue, right? That's one of the reasons why I

2818
02:34:59,120 --> 02:35:00,000
said some of the invite

2819
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:02,740
is good so that people know where you stand on things and the voters know we

2820
02:35:02,740 --> 02:35:05,220
stand on things and we don't agree with this crazy fucking shit and it's good

2821
02:35:05,220 --> 02:35:07,480
for voters and other we don't agree with this crazy fucking shit that doesn't

2822
02:35:07,480 --> 02:35:10,780
make us Republicans or make us buy into Republican framing that's just

2823
02:35:10,780 --> 02:35:13,100
disavowing the retarded shit that you guys believe in

2824
02:35:13,100 --> 02:35:18,660
uh yes I agree with that in part no

2825
02:35:19,780 --> 02:35:26,860
he agreed Tim is lost no he yells my new best friend I'm kidding fuck I wonder

2826
02:35:26,860 --> 02:35:32,860
if I want to talk about this he wouldn't you should reach out to him

2827
02:35:32,860 --> 02:35:39,580
I'm DMing him hello to you it's me Stephen

2828
02:35:39,580 --> 02:35:47,260
destiny the Senate is literally an anti-democratic institution we literally

2829
02:35:47,260 --> 02:35:50,920
elect our senators what are you talking about shut the fuck up stop I like the

2830
02:35:50,920 --> 02:35:59,780
Senate I just think we need to do some reform because I think the I think no I

2831
02:35:59,780 --> 02:36:04,720
just think you can't have it all these ways feels like the small states get it

2832
02:36:04,720 --> 02:36:13,680
way too good with the Electoral College the Senate what else do they get yeah

2833
02:36:13,680 --> 02:36:19,240
those two big things too much reform this reform the Electoral College for the

2834
02:36:19,240 --> 02:36:26,200
popular vote I think then we're good oh and the other thing was they don't uh

2835
02:36:26,200 --> 02:36:31,600
house is capped which makes it even more powerful for the smaller states and we

2836
02:36:31,600 --> 02:36:39,320
believe in no cap get it mmm no cap no I think no there should be some sort of

2837
02:36:39,320 --> 02:36:45,080
cap no cap like no cap like a like the saying you know no cap yeah I know what

2838
02:36:45,080 --> 02:36:56,860
you're saying but I yeah okay you're on

2839
02:37:02,600 --> 02:37:05,320
destiny how is two people making decisions on behalf of the overall

2840
02:37:05,320 --> 02:37:08,680
majority of people democratic are you searching out they're elected you might

2841
02:37:08,680 --> 02:37:12,640
not like it you've done that's how it's democratic democratic doesn't mean

2842
02:37:12,640 --> 02:37:18,680
states yeah democratic doesn't mean does by referendum okay that's a direct

2843
02:37:18,680 --> 02:37:22,160
democracy you dumb bitch you might think there are more democratic ways that you

2844
02:37:22,160 --> 02:37:24,880
could arrange the Senate sure but to call the Senate which is a body of people

2845
02:37:24,880 --> 02:37:29,880
that are voted on as anti-democratic is reductionist and retarded makes you

2846
02:37:29,880 --> 02:37:34,800
sound like a retard chatter fuck you four months ago killed a guy and raped

2847
02:37:34,800 --> 02:37:39,240
this corpse you should say I killed a guy and raped this corpse I don't know look

2848
02:37:39,240 --> 02:37:43,280
it up no I'm just kidding just kidding I cheated on my wife see isn't that better

2849
02:37:43,280 --> 02:37:49,800
that's a good bit that's a good bit you soften them up with the cannibalism I'm

2850
02:37:49,800 --> 02:37:56,440
giving him notes tomorrow why do you look so dejected I'm not I got an affair

2851
02:37:56,440 --> 02:38:03,800
come on she wasn't putting out anybody Christ anybody a wife not putting out in

2852
02:38:03,800 --> 02:38:12,300
here I ruined my life that's right I cheated on my wife

2853
02:38:12,300 --> 02:38:17,800
down hill I've considered suicide at some point

2854
02:38:17,800 --> 02:38:24,460
barely holding on everybody somebody call the ambulance this is not a joke

2855
02:38:24,800 --> 02:38:36,440
we're on that's like avant-garde is this guy actually let's set about to die or

2856
02:38:36,440 --> 02:38:41,720
see is it a joke we should send you to a comedy club to do it well what him you

2857
02:38:41,720 --> 02:38:45,280
believe it though because he actually did ruin his life and stuff and that's

2858
02:38:45,280 --> 02:38:53,760
nothing to live for so it's more you know yikes you know what this

2859
02:38:53,760 --> 02:39:04,680
reminds me of method Josh yeah man that guy really he just he's left what he was

2860
02:39:04,680 --> 02:39:13,320
also like a rapist right yeah he did a rape not good hey not good good

2861
02:39:20,520 --> 02:39:29,400
PD was throwing a party oh no so PD was throwing a party at his house or one of

2862
02:39:29,400 --> 02:39:36,200
his close friends I'm not gonna name any names that I also know through my ex at

2863
02:39:36,200 --> 02:39:41,800
the time my girlfriend at the time and we're friends like he knows who I am and

2864
02:39:41,800 --> 02:39:48,440
he was he was having a party a birthday party at PD's house I don't know who

2865
02:39:48,440 --> 02:39:52,440
the fuck he did he is obviously like I don't know him at all but it shouldn't be

2866
02:39:52,440 --> 02:39:58,000
weird for me to go right like it shouldn't be weird for me to also go but

2867
02:39:58,000 --> 02:40:00,000
But apparently, the person that I--

2868
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:11,000
I also knew the third party, the guy that was friends with my ex, was like, oh yeah, no, you can't bring your boyfriend, but you can bring a bunch of girls.

2869
02:40:11,000 --> 02:40:21,000
And that night we were supposed to go out together and she calls me, and she basically says, hey, I'm going to go to my friend's birthday.

2870
02:40:21,000 --> 02:40:37,000
Oh, this was the clip. Why? Oh, sometimes he misrepresented because I was on lies about everything, where he said that, like, I knew that P. Diddy was a bad guy a long time ago, but that's why, you know, when my girlfriend wanted to go to this P. Diddy party, that's why I said if you go, I'm going to break up with you.

2871
02:40:37,000 --> 02:40:46,000
But that's not true. Thank you for finding this. This was the clip. He didn't want to go, or he didn't want her to go, because he thought she was going to go fucking bang some celeb guys. That's why he got mad.

2872
02:40:46,000 --> 02:40:59,000
And he couldn't go. Yes. The party instead, I can't hang out with you anymore. And I was like, what do you mean? Like, what? Well, where's the fuck's my invite? Like, I know the person as well. That's kind of strange.

2873
02:40:59,000 --> 02:41:13,000
And she was like, well, yeah, well, she wanted to, I mean, he's like throwing a birthday party at P. Diddy's house, you know, their friends, whatever, and he doesn't want guys there. I was like, that's really, really strange.

2874
02:41:13,000 --> 02:41:21,000
And she had told me before about how like, he has, you know, he has like these crazy orgies and shit. And she's like, I'm not going to do anything.

2875
02:41:21,000 --> 02:41:31,000
But like, you know, me and my girlfriends are going to this P. Diddy party. And I was like, okay, you can go. You can go.

2876
02:41:31,000 --> 02:41:39,000
You're, I'm breaking out with you. So I broke up with her over the phone.

2877
02:41:39,000 --> 02:41:47,000
Then and there. That was probably one of the worst ways I've ever broken up with someone. I was like, no, you can go. Like, have fun.

2878
02:41:47,000 --> 02:41:54,000
How would you have responded in his situation if you weren't in an open relationship?

2879
02:41:54,000 --> 02:42:08,000
I don't know. That's a, it's a hard one because wasn't she still to trust your partner? Well, well, not just that, but like, wasn't she still performing at the time?

2880
02:42:08,000 --> 02:42:22,000
You know, I think she was, right? Yeah. So I can't, I can't really, I can't compute that question. If I was dating a porn star who was still shooting scenes, but then wanted to go to a party like this, that would be.

2881
02:42:22,000 --> 02:42:27,000
I don't know. I mean, you're dating a porn star. No, I don't know. I don't know. It's hard to factor in.

2882
02:42:27,000 --> 02:42:34,000
Thought I was a different person. No, I'm pretty sure this was Janice something.

2883
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:47,000
I don't remember her name, her last name, Griffith. We're no longer dating. I was in fucking traffic too.

2884
02:42:47,000 --> 02:42:52,000
How does she react? I don't know. She was like crying and stuff on the phone, but.

2885
02:42:52,000 --> 02:43:01,000
This is the check. But yeah, that he's swatted. True with a wellness check. That was probably the worst way I've broken up with someone before ever.

2886
02:43:01,000 --> 02:43:10,000
I'll just say this much. One of the news that was DMing her. Why did he do wellness check? They've been dating now for almost two years.

2887
02:43:10,000 --> 02:43:18,000
So two, three years now. So I was right. It's good that I broke up with her.

2888
02:43:18,000 --> 02:43:25,000
Really? No, and not mocked at all. This dude is like, I mean, he's really wealthy, but he is a fucking.

2889
02:43:25,000 --> 02:43:33,000
He's a shrimp. All of you. I'm getting one guy by chair. I didn't need the wellness check, by the way.

2890
02:43:33,000 --> 02:43:38,000
And I can't escape him online because the nature of the left is internet. I'm not trying to cancel him. Just please leave me out of it.

2891
02:43:38,000 --> 02:43:44,000
I don't know if she was responding to something here or she deleted it, but yeah, this isn't 2020.

2892
02:43:44,000 --> 02:43:50,000
Hmm. Hmm. What are you saying? You're getting one guy by chat.

2893
02:43:50,000 --> 02:43:57,000
Yeah, it's not every fucking part of a Diddy party was probably just one fucking big orgy. They didn't just have 50 people in the room.

2894
02:43:57,000 --> 02:44:00,000
True. They had the C.P. viewing section. All 50 invited.

2895
02:44:00,000 --> 02:44:07,000
As well. Yes, they had that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Nevermind. Got him. How about only right?

2896
02:44:07,000 --> 02:44:12,000
Right. Every part of it was a Diddy party. Somehow.

2897
02:44:12,000 --> 02:44:16,000
This is a really good interview, supposedly.

2898
02:44:16,000 --> 02:44:19,000
Oh, I needed to watch this. Good.

2899
02:44:19,000 --> 02:44:28,000
Well, it's hard. I'll be honest. I don't sleep. It's a huge terrifying pain that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

2900
02:44:28,000 --> 02:44:32,000
I can see the tears in your eyes. Yeah.

2901
02:44:32,000 --> 02:44:36,000
The war started February 24th of 22. I didn't think that would be a full scaling.

2902
02:44:36,000 --> 02:44:41,000
Wait, archive version of previous comment. Oh, this is what she said.

2903
02:44:41,000 --> 02:44:46,000
Hi, please don't mention this on piker to me. It's really hard for me emotionally because he called the cops wellness check on me.

2904
02:44:46,000 --> 02:44:50,000
When we were dating. Plus has avoided my attempts to privately talk about it.

2905
02:44:50,000 --> 02:44:54,000
I'm not a fan of doing this publicly, but we share a lot of our audience.

2906
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:04,820
Foundation I was with my family told my wife what you gotta get the Janus Griffith interview

2907
02:45:05,820 --> 02:45:08,440
That to the kids and the war has started. I love you

2908
02:45:08,440 --> 02:45:11,460
I'll call you and ran up satellite imagery captured a massive

2909
02:45:12,300 --> 02:45:17,060
64-kilometer non-brushing military convoy leading to Kiev and just imagine 200,000 people are coming at you

2910
02:45:17,060 --> 02:45:21,740
It's simply impossible to defend and this was raining down on your head those were absolutely horrifying moments

2911
02:45:21,740 --> 02:45:27,780
And I was in the bunker built right inside my office Biden called me. We are ready to help you evacuate

2912
02:45:27,780 --> 02:45:29,780
What did you say to Biden? I need ammunition

2913
02:45:30,000 --> 02:45:33,120
Not the right they expected people to run and me

2914
02:45:33,120 --> 02:45:39,860
I couldn't abandon the people and then people showed up as volunteers and our army grew from 200,000 to an army of

2915
02:45:40,640 --> 02:45:44,080
800,000 day after day we pushed back harder. What was your hardest day?

2916
02:45:44,080 --> 02:45:49,280
I think people were like dropping fucking like Molotov's and shit like out of their fucking windows and stuff the

2917
02:45:50,040 --> 02:45:53,420
It's easy again to look at history as an inevitable thing. I say this all the time

2918
02:45:53,420 --> 02:45:57,960
I like history seems like it only go one way, but the idea of Zelensky not fleeing

2919
02:45:58,840 --> 02:46:04,080
Immediately is crazy. Yeah, he was a and I don't mean it in a mean way using wild man

2920
02:46:04,080 --> 02:46:09,240
Everybody would have assumed and everybody did assume, you know me included the war expert

2921
02:46:09,720 --> 02:46:15,760
But now like everybody assumed that this war was over in a day or two and then a week or two and then a month or two and he held on

2922
02:46:17,560 --> 02:46:24,500
Gospel years we liberated butcher. I went there dead bodies lying everywhere kids adults elderly people chopped meat

2923
02:46:25,040 --> 02:46:32,600
Butchered them hands tied tortured and then buried in in pits when you see a mass to day finding a grave

2924
02:46:32,600 --> 02:46:36,680
Have you seen any of the man? What was any of that one Ukrainian journalist that they sent back?

2925
02:46:37,720 --> 02:46:40,960
They sent her body back. I think like her eyes were missing

2926
02:46:42,400 --> 02:46:44,400
Yeah, but I think that we need to like

2927
02:46:44,920 --> 02:46:46,720
Yeah, I don't want to say mandatory viewing

2928
02:46:46,720 --> 02:46:50,720
But I think the people need to see it so you know what's going on even I don't know how bad it is

2929
02:46:50,720 --> 02:46:53,440
Yeah, it's fucked and then you see the videos of like the people coming back

2930
02:46:53,920 --> 02:46:57,600
Who are like emaciated like I like starving to death like you see videos

2931
02:46:58,600 --> 02:47:03,760
And they look like you know an ordinary 220 pound male they come back. They look like they're 120 pounds

2932
02:47:03,760 --> 02:47:07,600
They're like it's insane like starving and shit. Yeah

2933
02:47:08,440 --> 02:47:12,520
The US or in Britain God forbid with 500 tortured people

2934
02:47:12,520 --> 02:47:16,120
How do you forgive and that's why when president Trump says we need to find a compromise?

2935
02:47:16,120 --> 02:47:21,080
Well, you can't just forgive everything like that. Is there a realistic path to the end of this war?

2936
02:47:24,920 --> 02:47:26,920
You

2937
02:47:30,560 --> 02:47:32,560
President Zelensky

2938
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Sometimes the question I'm about to ask you we answer it flippantly when people ask but I really want you to answer it in the fullest

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Honest context you possibly can

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How are you doing?

2941
02:47:44,160 --> 02:47:51,760
I don't know how I feel about moods argument because isn't this similar to the gods of defense of look at these pictures. I mean like

2942
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I know it's not like a sociopath even my community hates it when I do this

2943
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But like you should look at the pictures

2944
02:47:58,480 --> 02:48:01,720
It's not the same like if you if people got real mad at me

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I do a long time ago

2946
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but like Google pictures of like starving Yemenis children and then Google pictures of starving

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Palestinian children like the issues and everything facing Palestine are not acceptable and we should be doing more and

2948
02:48:14,760 --> 02:48:19,960
Israel bad and yada yada yada, but like the issues that the Palestinians face are not the same issues

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That like the Ukrainians face or like starving Yemenis people face like people don't know what mass starvation looks like

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That's why when people are showing you pictures and videos and shit all the time

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02:48:30,760 --> 02:48:36,880
Usually it's of an individual strike or attack or it's just like a lot of destroyed buildings of which there are a lot of destroyed buildings

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That is absolutely true

2953
02:48:38,840 --> 02:48:46,480
But the situation on the ground is such a mindfuck because you will have people whose entire fucking country strip of land has been basically

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bulldozed to the ground and then you look at the pictures and videos of them and and I can't concentrate not concentration guys

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02:48:53,720 --> 02:49:00,040
refugee camps or whatever and they're all wearing like new clothes, which I know it sounds like a crazy thing to say but the

2956
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Tattered rags and the horrible fucked lives that people generally live in these war zones

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It just looks a lot. It's very very very strange the way that it looks and when I say strange I

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Don't mean that I'm like saying that the Palestinians per se are lying about conditions or whatever again

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It's it's not great

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But it's so far removed from the crazy shit

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They try to sell you over here in the West about what the conditions are actually like

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It's like I think it's good to look at stuff

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02:49:26,600 --> 02:49:30,280
You should look at pictures and look at videos and if it bothers you a lot you should you should want to do something about it

2964
02:49:31,600 --> 02:49:35,920
Well, it's hard say I had a professor Dave as he sticks us in his 27th video about me

2965
02:49:36,760 --> 02:49:39,080
Do you see he was trying to say consecration?

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Or that he says the all the children are happy because they've got new clothes from Walmart

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It's like I'm surviving along with my country and with the people and it's like really a question like will tomorrow come or not?

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And the answer to that is yes, it will you can't answer it any other way because I am that means my family my relatives

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I'm my country, I'm an inseparable part of it.

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And so how do I feel hard, but with understanding

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the difficult reality, with optimism,

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because I still believe good wins.

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I believe in that, truly.

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- Is it a bit of a roller coaster on a human level for you?

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02:50:15,920 --> 02:50:19,840
Are there days where there's more hope

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and days where there's less hope?

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- You can't live without hope.

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02:50:23,520 --> 02:50:25,280
I understand sometimes inside,

2979
02:50:25,280 --> 02:50:26,840
you know, you can be shattered inside,

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02:50:26,840 --> 02:50:31,280
especially during wartime, especially families

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who, you know, lose someone close in their family,

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02:50:36,080 --> 02:50:40,760
a child, God forbid, or a wife, a husband,

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02:50:40,760 --> 02:50:44,600
a mother, that is, it's just an internal breakdown.

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02:50:44,600 --> 02:50:45,960
It's very hard.

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02:50:45,960 --> 02:50:48,840
And it's much harder for them, I believe.

2986
02:50:48,840 --> 02:50:52,080
Just so much harder than it is for me

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02:50:52,080 --> 02:50:53,820
with all these challenges.

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02:50:54,680 --> 02:50:58,520
The weight of all of this sits often in your shoulders.

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02:50:58,520 --> 02:51:00,520
And when someone does lose a child or a loved one

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or a wife or a sister or daughter,

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I imagine, as I've seen from, you know,

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some of these factors I have here review,

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I mean, this photo in particular stands out to me.

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02:51:09,880 --> 02:51:11,280
- Oh, that's a terrible story.

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02:51:12,320 --> 02:51:15,160
It's just a terrible story.

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That was, that's when a missile hit a playground.

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02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:21,800
And the missile speed was such that the siren

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didn't help at all, so it was a matter of seconds.

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And the missile struck and children were killed

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and both children were killed there,

3001
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mostly, and adults, just adults, right there.

3002
02:51:30,280 --> 02:51:33,640
A couple, I remember they were just out walking passing by

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and because they were walking by and were killed.

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Parents, you know, like right on this side,

3005
02:51:42,280 --> 02:51:44,920
there are homes too, and parents there,

3006
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they, some of them saw through the window.

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Do you understand what it's like to see through a window,

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one of your children just torn apart?

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And toys just.

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- Yes, it is AI dubbed.

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02:51:57,160 --> 02:51:58,920
Yes, if you want, here, link the video

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and go watch the original.

3013
02:51:59,760 --> 02:52:01,120
The dub is totally fucking fine.

3014
02:52:01,120 --> 02:52:03,120
Please, can we accelerate into the future

3015
02:52:03,120 --> 02:52:06,040
where you guys are not AI broken on every fucking thing

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you see, please, please, please let us get to that future

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as soon as possible.

3018
02:52:08,480 --> 02:52:10,440
Holy shit, here, go watch the original,

3019
02:52:10,440 --> 02:52:11,360
what subtitles have you want.

3020
02:52:11,360 --> 02:52:13,680
The dubbing is perfectly fucking fine, holy shit.

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- Such a, during such a tragedy,

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02:52:15,800 --> 02:52:19,200
it's a tradition to bring flowers for adults

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and toys for children.

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02:52:20,840 --> 02:52:23,640
I went there, it's pain, I'll say it again.

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My pain can't even, it's not even 10% of the parents pain.

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02:52:28,400 --> 02:52:30,640
It's terrifying, just terrifying.

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02:52:30,640 --> 02:52:32,560
- Does Olensky have children?

3028
02:52:32,560 --> 02:52:33,960
Wait, is Olensky gay?

3029
02:52:34,860 --> 02:52:35,700
- No, he's a wife.

3030
02:52:35,700 --> 02:52:36,980
- Oh no, he is a wife, I know he is a wife

3031
02:52:36,980 --> 02:52:39,040
because Olensky is accused, the wife,

3032
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or no, people on the right accused the wife

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02:52:40,640 --> 02:52:43,240
of wasting all their money on expensive dresses

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02:52:43,240 --> 02:52:45,160
in New York City, I remember this rushing talking point.

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02:52:45,160 --> 02:52:46,320
Does he have children?

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02:52:47,960 --> 02:52:48,800
- No idea.

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02:52:50,360 --> 02:52:52,720
- A missile that cut short the life of a child

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who had seen nothing yet, imagine.

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- By the way.

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- And there are children, a lot of them,

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among the fallen as well, who never lived in peace.

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I mean, we lived in a different time.

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We understand what it's like to live

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02:53:07,920 --> 02:53:09,720
when there are no sirens, no shelling, and so on.

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But there are kids, every night they go down to the bomb.

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- Bro, what the fuck do you watch "Anime Dub 2"?

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I don't know.

3048
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Are you getting one guy?

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- No, I just thought of the best idea ever.

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People should do, has anybody done AI dubs yet for anime?

3051
02:53:28,760 --> 02:53:30,600
That might actually be sick as fuck

3052
02:53:30,600 --> 02:53:34,080
because the reason why dubs tend to suck for anime

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or for US stuff, I shouldn't say suck, that's me.

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But in the US, we just don't take voice acting

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for whatever reason, we just don't take it as seriously

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as they do in Japan.

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So it'll be like, we have eight voice actors,

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the voice act, everything, and it's serviceable,

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it's not like that great, you can tell when you listen

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to like dubs of like, especially Japanese games,

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you're just like, eh.

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But if somebody were to dub an English voice

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with a Japanese voice, and it was actually bad,

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I bet for some of these it would be better

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than the actual dub.

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Dubs have been better in recent years,

3067
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testing is brain broken on this.

3068
02:54:02,760 --> 02:54:04,360
No, I've watched any recent anime dubs,

3069
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I usually watch it sub, so.

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- Really? - Shelter one.

3071
02:54:07,520 --> 02:54:09,800
- Name the last anime you watched.

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02:54:09,800 --> 02:54:13,280
- I tried to watch that, JJ, no.

3073
02:54:13,280 --> 02:54:15,200
What's the one with the curses?

3074
02:54:15,800 --> 02:54:17,400
- Oh, and the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3075
02:54:17,400 --> 02:54:18,220
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3076
02:54:18,220 --> 02:54:19,060
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3077
02:54:19,060 --> 02:54:19,900
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3078
02:54:19,900 --> 02:54:20,900
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3079
02:54:20,900 --> 02:54:21,900
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3080
02:54:21,900 --> 02:54:22,900
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3081
02:54:22,900 --> 02:54:23,900
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3082
02:54:23,900 --> 02:54:24,900
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3083
02:54:24,900 --> 02:54:25,900
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3084
02:54:25,900 --> 02:54:26,900
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3085
02:54:26,900 --> 02:54:27,900
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3086
02:54:27,900 --> 02:54:28,900
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3087
02:54:28,900 --> 02:54:29,900
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3088
02:54:29,900 --> 02:54:30,900
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

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02:54:30,900 --> 02:54:51,000
- And the guy eats. - And the guy eats.

3090
02:54:51,000 --> 02:54:59,800
- And the guy eats.

3091
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:04,400
the burden of this kind of horrific incident taking place in your country all the time.

3092
02:55:04,400 --> 02:55:08,880
What is the sort of human burden there and are you sleeping?

3093
02:55:08,880 --> 02:55:15,440
I'll be honest, I don't sleep, I'm a responsible person, I have different traits, good ones,

3094
02:55:15,440 --> 02:55:18,640
not so good ones, like every person, nobody's perfect, yeah.

3095
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And every night I speak with our air defense operators, with our guys who run the air defense,

3096
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every night we talk.

3097
02:55:26,280 --> 02:55:31,640
Well, yeah, thanks to modern technology, it's very easy and we text back and forth what's

3098
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needed right now, let's pull some over from another region, so it's an active discussion

3099
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which obviously well doesn't let you sleep, yeah, you know, getting eight hours of sleep

3100
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like that is something.

3101
02:55:43,220 --> 02:55:47,520
There's no way, I imagine the answer is no because the military would be doing this.

3102
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There's no way to do something more with sleep, right?

3103
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To make it so that you could like communicate with a sleeping person and get meaningful communications

3104
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back.

3105
02:55:55,560 --> 02:55:58,320
It sounds like outside, it might influence your dream or something, like there's no way

3106
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you could like communicate back and forth and let them still sleep or like them practice

3107
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the skill while they're sleeping and then come out with it being more master.

3108
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I think we're coming towards that with the, you know, there's like some weird sleep ship

3109
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where you can like read people's dreams now.

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02:56:13,360 --> 02:56:17,400
I've seen that a while ago, I don't know what the status is on that.

3111
02:56:17,400 --> 02:56:21,600
Man, we need to work on that, that'd be sick as fuck.

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I'm totally new to me during these years, almost five years of war.

3113
02:56:25,760 --> 02:56:31,760
I'm not complaining, I'm not complaining at all and that's how I live.

3114
02:56:31,760 --> 02:56:36,040
The burden, the strongest emotion, I once answered this honestly.

3115
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There's a moment when I present awards and there's this moment when I award and personally

3116
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the hero of Ukraine, it's the highest honor.

3117
02:56:44,120 --> 02:56:50,280
When I present this award to parents who lost a child, yeah, a boy or a girl, soldiers.

3118
02:56:50,280 --> 02:56:57,600
That feeling, you know, well, how I cease to exist in that moment.

3119
02:56:57,600 --> 02:57:01,520
I'm just, well, it's not pain, it's something terrible.

3120
02:57:01,520 --> 02:57:05,040
I look at these people at their eyes at what they say.

3121
02:57:05,040 --> 02:57:09,440
Many of them say something and there are people who just ask for a hug.

3122
02:57:09,440 --> 02:57:14,360
Imagine you give an award to a father who's very strong hand you can feel.

3123
02:57:14,360 --> 02:57:15,800
He's, you know, a strong man.

3124
02:57:15,800 --> 02:57:19,120
You feel his strong hand and he just quietly says to you, can we hug?

3125
02:57:19,120 --> 02:57:27,600
So, like compare this to in his first term, Bannon, Steve Bannon, who is a demon, had to

3126
02:57:27,600 --> 02:57:35,120
tell Trump to calm the fuck down when Trump was shitting on the gold star family of, was

3127
02:57:35,120 --> 02:57:38,520
it because the kid was, was it a Muslim family or something?

3128
02:57:38,520 --> 02:57:42,480
But it was the family of like a soldier that had died and Trump was like shitting on them

3129
02:57:42,480 --> 02:57:43,940
because I think they were critical of him.

3130
02:57:43,940 --> 02:57:48,360
Even Bannon had to tell, oh yeah, the con guy, and even Bannon had to tell like, bro, you

3131
02:57:48,360 --> 02:57:50,200
got to calm the fuck down, okay?

3132
02:57:50,200 --> 02:57:51,520
You don't shit on gold star family.

3133
02:57:51,520 --> 02:57:52,520
This is like insane.

3134
02:57:52,520 --> 02:57:54,840
You're so fucking out of line.

3135
02:57:54,840 --> 02:57:55,840
Jesus.

3136
02:57:55,840 --> 02:57:56,840
Crazy.

3137
02:57:56,840 --> 02:57:59,600
They, well, you know, they're gone.

3138
02:57:59,600 --> 02:58:00,920
Gone as people anymore.

3139
02:58:00,920 --> 02:58:07,000
Well, for a time, then strong people try to survive and these moments, on the one, on

3140
02:58:07,000 --> 02:58:12,480
the one hand, I respect them, I do it, but on the other hand, it's hard to bear.

3141
02:58:12,480 --> 02:58:18,720
I understand them and it's a huge, terrifying pain that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

3142
02:58:18,720 --> 02:58:24,240
What these parents feel, having lost a child, a soldier, these parents didn't lose a child

3143
02:58:24,240 --> 02:58:25,240
on a playground.

3144
02:58:25,240 --> 02:58:26,240
They lost a soldier.

3145
02:58:26,240 --> 02:58:31,720
They knew that could happen, but knowing and losing are completely different things.

3146
02:58:31,720 --> 02:58:36,440
I can see the tears in your eyes as you describe this.

3147
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I'm a human being.

3148
02:58:38,520 --> 02:58:40,960
I'm not ashamed to be who I am.

3149
02:58:40,960 --> 02:58:43,600
I'm not the strongest man in the world.

3150
02:58:43,600 --> 02:58:48,380
I try to set an example, but I'm definitely not a perfect person.

3151
02:58:48,380 --> 02:58:49,380
Yeah.

3152
02:58:49,380 --> 02:58:53,600
Is there anything that you, because this is, this is a lot to deal with, you know, I hear

3153
02:58:53,600 --> 02:58:55,080
you recounting the stories of dealing with these parents.

3154
02:58:55,080 --> 02:58:57,560
Is there anything that you, you do to take care of yourself?

3155
02:58:57,560 --> 02:59:01,000
What is it that keeps you strong?

3156
02:59:01,000 --> 02:59:08,000
My kids, my kids, I just, you know, I have to be an example.

3157
02:59:08,000 --> 02:59:10,440
I told myself, maybe I don't have to, but that's what I told myself.

3158
02:59:10,440 --> 02:59:12,520
I have to set an example for my kids.

3159
02:59:12,520 --> 02:59:18,320
This is the way that is not, and you have to set an example, be strong, be as brave as

3160
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possible, but don't, don't hide the pain if you have it.

3161
02:59:22,880 --> 02:59:27,840
You shouldn't say, I don't feel anything because human beings, by nature, they're alive.

3162
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And that's their weakness, but it's also where a person's strength lies.

3163
02:59:31,360 --> 02:59:32,960
That really is where our strength is.

3164
02:59:32,960 --> 02:59:35,440
And so my kids keep me grounded very much so.

3165
02:59:35,440 --> 02:59:36,440
I want to set an example.

3166
02:59:36,440 --> 02:59:37,880
I want them to be proud of me.

3167
02:59:37,880 --> 02:59:41,120
We'll talk about that later, but there's um, holy shit.

3168
02:59:41,120 --> 02:59:44,120
That's what that one doctor says to Bruce when he's at the bottom of the prison.

3169
02:59:44,120 --> 02:59:45,120
Remember?

3170
02:59:45,120 --> 02:59:50,120
The fear, the fear to survive or fear of death is the strongest thing, right?

3171
02:59:50,120 --> 02:59:54,480
There's one big outstanding question, which is who is President Zelensky?

3172
02:59:54,480 --> 02:59:57,160
And I've been through hundreds and hundreds of photos and stories from your childhood.

3173
02:59:57,160 --> 03:00:00,040
I've got some some wonderful photos here of your.

3174
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:05,880
earliest days and then this is a beautiful one if you're wonderful mother is one.

3175
03:00:05,880 --> 03:00:12,200
That's my mum, yeah. Mum was very beautiful. What she still is but she's gotten older.

3176
03:00:12,200 --> 03:00:16,160
Can you take me into your earliest context just so I can get a sort of a view of

3177
03:00:16,160 --> 03:00:19,560
what childhood was like for you? What's the context in which you grew up in?

3178
03:00:19,560 --> 03:00:23,840
Really I want to understand how that context and early experience fed into

3179
03:00:23,840 --> 03:00:27,800
the man you are today, the perspective you have, the values that you cherish.

3180
03:00:27,800 --> 03:00:37,100
I'm from the generation that's straddled to, let's say, two different

3181
03:00:37,100 --> 03:00:41,960
lives, meaning I was born in the Soviet Union when Ukraine was part of the

3182
03:00:41,960 --> 03:00:47,000
Soviet Union and I grew up in an independent Ukraine and I've always said

3183
03:00:47,000 --> 03:00:52,520
that my kids they're lucky because this is full circle because Zelensky did

3184
03:00:52,520 --> 03:01:04,480
that Ukrainian dub for the Dark Knight Trilogy. Is that true? Did Zelensky do

3185
03:01:04,480 --> 03:01:16,040
any dubbing in Ukraine, in media? Yes, Paddington and Paddington 2, the angry

3186
03:01:16,040 --> 03:01:23,560
bird's movie. I'm so surprised Trump doesn't bring it up and be like, he's

3187
03:01:23,560 --> 03:01:28,720
just trying to get movie roles. He did not do dubbing in the Dark Knight. You

3188
03:01:28,720 --> 03:01:34,640
like fun. Yeah, also true, yeah. What an actual subhuman piece of shit. Oh my

3189
03:01:34,640 --> 03:01:39,160
god. They were born in an independent country without all these, you know,

3190
03:01:39,160 --> 03:01:42,760
shades of gray. This is gray. That's something else. No, it's black and white.

3191
03:01:42,760 --> 03:01:46,680
Totally clear. They're patriots. They love their country and their country is

3192
03:01:46,680 --> 03:01:53,000
Ukraine. While we were born in the Soviet Union and, you know, we were kids from a

3193
03:01:53,000 --> 03:01:58,080
fairly, let's say, not I don't want to offend anyone so my dad doesn't get

3194
03:01:58,080 --> 03:02:01,880
upset. Well, from a regular, very ordinary family, not not very well off.

3195
03:02:01,880 --> 03:02:04,680
Let's put it that way. Yeah, let's put it that way. Well, that's and I think it's

3196
03:02:04,680 --> 03:02:10,840
totally clear from the photos. I was born in Krivirich, an academic family in

3197
03:02:10,840 --> 03:02:17,320
Soviet era Ukraine. Wasn't not like, you know, in Europe or in the United States.

3198
03:02:17,320 --> 03:02:22,040
An academic family with everything provided. Usually our academics didn't

3199
03:02:22,040 --> 03:02:27,280
make a lot of money. But again, I'm not complaining. I respect my father. An

3200
03:02:27,280 --> 03:02:33,280
honest man, a professor. Well, values again and again. I got an education and I

3201
03:02:33,280 --> 03:02:38,320
got raised right and my parents love. I think those three things are enough to

3202
03:02:38,320 --> 03:02:43,200
be grateful to your parents. I'm not sure people find this interesting. So let's

3203
03:02:43,200 --> 03:02:48,760
move on. When you were a young boy in those photos, when you're under the age

3204
03:02:48,760 --> 03:02:52,040
of 10, had I asked you what you wanted to be when you grew up? What would you

3205
03:02:52,040 --> 03:02:57,600
have answered? Because and to be honest, I changed like the wind. Honestly, there

3206
03:02:57,600 --> 03:03:03,160
was a time when I really wanted to be a diplomat, wanted to be a border guard.

3207
03:03:03,160 --> 03:03:08,280
Yeah. And then I went to law school, graduated from law faculty. And while

3208
03:03:08,280 --> 03:03:13,280
studying, I realized that I was more interested in media. So I got out and

3209
03:03:13,280 --> 03:03:17,040
started working that exact field. I mean, at 17 years old, you became interested in

3210
03:03:17,040 --> 03:03:21,440
comedy. Yeah. And you joined the comedy group. And from what I read, you did that

3211
03:03:21,440 --> 03:03:24,280
up until the age of about 26 years old. So you were a comedian up until the age of

3212
03:03:24,280 --> 03:03:31,160
26 years old, before starting a media company? I yeah, but I was more I enjoyed.

3213
03:03:31,160 --> 03:03:37,160
I was a script writer. And so sometimes as a writer, I also did a little acting. I

3214
03:03:37,160 --> 03:03:44,280
enjoyed it. Yeah, until I was 26. And then at 26, I got my own company. There's

3215
03:03:44,280 --> 03:03:48,120
some interesting stats. I found 28 years old, you won Ukraine's dancing with the

3216
03:03:48,120 --> 03:03:56,160
stars. Yeah. Yeah. So you can dance? I think yes. I'm not sure that now I can.

3217
03:03:56,160 --> 03:04:00,880
And later you've voiced Paddington Bear in the Ukrainian language film. Yeah. I

3218
03:04:00,880 --> 03:04:08,560
really, really loved. I think Paddington is a very cool thing. Really right. And for

3219
03:04:08,560 --> 03:04:12,280
the people, I'm not sure all of it is just for kids to be honest. But nonetheless,

3220
03:04:12,280 --> 03:04:18,680
that character resonated deeply with me. And I even after I became president, the

3221
03:04:18,680 --> 03:04:23,360
next Paddington installment was coming out. And all this was before the war. And

3222
03:04:23,360 --> 03:04:28,080
they were sending me signals, would you consider voicing another Paddington

3223
03:04:28,080 --> 03:04:34,480
movie? I said, well, I'd really love to. But I didn't hear. And then between 34

3224
03:04:34,480 --> 03:04:37,760
years old and 37 years old, you paid in a bunch of different feature films. And most

3225
03:04:37,760 --> 03:04:41,560
interestingly, you starred as one particular character, a school teacher, who

3226
03:04:41,560 --> 03:04:46,600
accidentally becomes president in the satirical TV series called Servant of the

3227
03:04:46,600 --> 03:04:51,360
People. The People. I think I have a photo. Yeah, teacher of history. You've got to

3228
03:04:51,360 --> 03:04:53,960
explain the context here because people can't believe that this is true. They

3229
03:04:53,960 --> 03:04:58,120
can't believe that you actually acted as an actor who accidentally becomes

3230
03:04:58,120 --> 03:04:59,920
president. And you must find this

3231
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:06,240
Bizarre that you then became president because presumably at that time you weren't expecting to become president when you became an actor pretending to be president

3232
03:05:06,440 --> 03:05:12,520
Absolutely. I definitely didn't expect it. Absolutely. And this idea this this idea was about 10 to 12 years old

3233
03:05:13,080 --> 03:05:14,840
once

3234
03:05:14,840 --> 03:05:19,280
This idea came to me and I thought about it. I lived with this idea for a long time

3235
03:05:19,280 --> 03:05:22,960
I love doing that and at some point the feeling was that

3236
03:05:23,760 --> 03:05:27,960
The world is changing Ukraine is changing and right now this idea is relevant

3237
03:05:27,960 --> 03:05:35,120
It will resonate and people will like it. What was the idea when you say the idea? The person from the people without any

3238
03:05:35,920 --> 03:05:40,120
history without any political background becomes president and

3239
03:05:41,240 --> 03:05:43,600
That's how it turned out to be honest

3240
03:05:44,600 --> 03:05:49,160
So you are that's kind of like the United States, right? Trump was from the people like an average ordinary Joe

3241
03:05:50,100 --> 03:05:51,600
president

3242
03:05:51,600 --> 03:05:59,420
playing a character in a TV series called servant of the people and the character was returning to be the president and you

3243
03:05:59,520 --> 03:06:04,160
And you realized that actually the idea of that being a sort of servant of the people

3244
03:06:04,560 --> 03:06:11,000
Party or president was probably quite a good idea based on what was going on in Ukraine at that time and because of the government instability at the time

3245
03:06:11,000 --> 03:06:14,040
You actually registered servant of the people as a real political party in Ukraine

3246
03:06:15,040 --> 03:06:17,540
Well, that sounds basically like a pretty good

3247
03:06:18,160 --> 03:06:21,560
Script yeah, but it wasn't honestly calculated like that

3248
03:06:22,440 --> 03:06:28,200
The series was very popular in parallel. There were a few other projects. We had a political satire

3249
03:06:28,760 --> 03:06:34,520
Project it was very popular. It was even before that series. So I already had my bearings in politics anyway

3250
03:06:34,880 --> 03:06:41,400
The point was that indeed I decided to try my hand in this direction

3251
03:06:41,400 --> 03:06:47,480
I really wanted after the occupation of Crimea after the occupation of Donbas this whole situation changed us

3252
03:06:47,480 --> 03:06:52,560
And you and you started to feel like something something was going wrong here

3253
03:06:53,520 --> 03:06:59,640
And it's war, but there still wasn't wasn't that feeling yet because it wasn't a full-scale war and so I

3254
03:07:01,840 --> 03:07:05,640
Didn't want to we were doing business with Belarus and with Kazakhstan and with Russia as well

3255
03:07:05,640 --> 03:07:09,200
We had offices and projects that we were filming and so on so

3256
03:07:09,800 --> 03:07:15,680
Life changed. I want wanted to drop it all and this this sense of betrayal by Russia

3257
03:07:16,400 --> 03:07:22,000
well, all of that happened and that's why and you can't change this whole period changed you as well

3258
03:07:22,000 --> 03:07:26,400
And so it's not like it was some calculated plan the TV show comes out and then a political party

3259
03:07:26,400 --> 03:07:31,680
I know about that. I know about that some people might think that and that's fine. That's normal people have their own opinions. That's normal

3260
03:07:32,840 --> 03:07:39,800
It coincided the mood in society coincided with my inner mood and with my

3261
03:07:40,840 --> 03:07:44,360
Determination and desire. So it's a coincidence of many things

3262
03:07:44,800 --> 03:07:48,000
There should be a button just down below here and if it says subscribe

3263
03:07:48,000 --> 03:07:51,120
You're already subscribed if it says subscribe, but that means you're not yet

3264
03:07:51,120 --> 03:07:53,200
And if you're not subscribed just to just a favor hit that button

3265
03:07:53,200 --> 03:07:56,900
It helps us show more than you know according to the algorithm. You're someone that watches our show

3266
03:07:59,400 --> 03:08:00,440
So

3267
03:08:00,440 --> 03:08:08,120
You talked about how it was really sort of a change in the climate in Ukraine that caused you to move closer to politics because

3268
03:08:08,360 --> 03:08:14,680
Everything that was going on at the time Russia invaded Crimea here in 2014. Yeah, the annex Crimea

3269
03:08:14,800 --> 03:08:18,200
And this is and this is four years after this point you

3270
03:08:18,720 --> 03:08:20,720
announced that you're gonna run for president

3271
03:08:20,720 --> 03:08:26,320
Is this really when the war began in your view because there's been lots of people that have posited when the war began

3272
03:08:26,320 --> 03:08:32,600
Some people say the war began a thousand years ago and they talk about old Crimea and everything that took place there with the roost

3273
03:08:32,960 --> 03:08:40,200
Some people say it began in 2014 and some people say it began in 2022 in your mind. When did the war begin? I think

3274
03:08:40,600 --> 03:08:49,500
For many people that time really is different, but if we take take the new Ukraine that regained its independence in

3275
03:08:50,480 --> 03:08:52,480
1991 in the 20th century

3276
03:08:52,760 --> 03:08:54,760
Then I think that in

3277
03:08:55,200 --> 03:08:58,380
2014 all of us just couldn't believe it that this kind of

3278
03:08:58,840 --> 03:09:02,780
Occupation was happening the war really started with the occupation of Crimea

3279
03:09:03,280 --> 03:09:08,600
That's true. It's just that it was slow that occupation. It didn't look much like a war

3280
03:09:08,600 --> 03:09:13,960
Why well because Ukraine wasn't fighting back at that point meaning when they occupied Crimea

3281
03:09:14,120 --> 03:09:19,760
There were shots fired there of course, but for a very long time Russia wouldn't admit these were its people

3282
03:09:19,760 --> 03:09:23,920
They looked like regular people. They even called them little great men green men

3283
03:09:23,920 --> 03:09:29,720
That's what they call them because you couldn't tell what that uniform was meaning these are people carrying some kind of weapons on the peninsula

3284
03:09:29,720 --> 03:09:35,600
And the problem was that there were no clear orders from the Ukraine authorities that you need to defend your land that someone violated

3285
03:09:35,600 --> 03:09:39,460
Your borders with with weapons and is seizing seizing gradually seizing Crimea

3286
03:09:39,460 --> 03:09:47,080
So it was really that kind of creeping occupation looking at that time today not back in 2014 not in 2015

3287
03:09:47,080 --> 03:09:53,720
But today you realize that that's when the war really began our mistake was not pushing them back

3288
03:09:53,720 --> 03:09:59,320
And of course if there have been an order an order to defend the country, I'm sure that

3289
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:05,480
I think a full-scale war in the form it has today wouldn't have happened.

3290
03:10:05,480 --> 03:10:08,840
Well, at least that's how it seems to me.

3291
03:10:08,840 --> 03:10:13,440
I've read that your great-grandfather and his grandfathers for brothers were killed by

3292
03:10:13,440 --> 03:10:17,040
the Nazis, and his grandfather was the only brother to survive the war, and I wondered

3293
03:10:17,040 --> 03:10:21,080
how that experience of having that in your family tree.

3294
03:10:21,080 --> 03:10:24,780
Do you think the main reason Ethan wanted to move on so quick from pedo-drackling you

3295
03:10:24,780 --> 03:10:27,440
is he was worried if you dug deeper, you'd find something like the affair?

3296
03:10:27,440 --> 03:10:28,440
No.

3297
03:10:28,440 --> 03:10:33,720
That's not quickly because I think my response video was pretty good.

3298
03:10:33,720 --> 03:10:37,440
Also, for Ethan, a lot of the research that Ethan does is just kind of like using other

3299
03:10:37,440 --> 03:10:41,320
people's videos, like he's not generally doing a bunch on his own.

3300
03:10:41,320 --> 03:10:42,560
I said this a lot in the past.

3301
03:10:42,560 --> 03:10:46,200
This is why when he attacked a son, his attacks were so successful because most of that research

3302
03:10:46,200 --> 03:10:47,360
came from my subreddit.

3303
03:10:47,360 --> 03:10:49,720
Like, they were just copying and paste stuff basically that they saw in my subreddit.

3304
03:10:49,720 --> 03:10:50,720
We did the work!

3305
03:10:50,720 --> 03:10:53,640
And I'm generally pretty good about making it so my community's not doing bullshit attacks

3306
03:10:53,640 --> 03:10:56,280
that have, you know, little factual bases behind them.

3307
03:10:56,280 --> 03:10:59,920
And then when he did his piece on me, he was just relying on Ryan Beard's video, which

3308
03:10:59,920 --> 03:11:02,080
is not the best.

3309
03:11:02,080 --> 03:11:06,520
And then also on the flip side of that, Ethan had a lot of stuff out there about him that

3310
03:11:06,520 --> 03:11:08,520
was easy to find.

3311
03:11:08,520 --> 03:11:11,000
I think I spent one night on that.

3312
03:11:11,000 --> 03:11:14,000
I feel like I did that response video in like 12 hours because I think I responded the next

3313
03:11:14,000 --> 03:11:15,000
day.

3314
03:11:15,000 --> 03:11:16,000
So, I think.

3315
03:11:16,000 --> 03:11:22,560
And then obviously after that, after I did my stream on that, the pedotrol Reddit account

3316
03:11:22,560 --> 03:11:26,840
was found, which was crazy, and then I think of that, I think it was.

3317
03:11:26,840 --> 03:11:27,840
Who found that?

3318
03:11:27,840 --> 03:11:28,840
Was it just random?

3319
03:11:28,840 --> 03:11:29,840
Um, I...

3320
03:11:29,840 --> 03:11:30,840
Or was it a birdie?

3321
03:11:30,840 --> 03:11:31,840
No, it was...

3322
03:11:31,840 --> 03:11:33,480
Somebody posted it on Twitter, and then I think somebody DM me and told me that I got

3323
03:11:33,480 --> 03:11:34,480
shown on Twitter.

3324
03:11:34,480 --> 03:11:35,480
But I don't know who...

3325
03:11:35,480 --> 03:11:37,040
I don't know if somebody was sitting on that for a long time.

3326
03:11:37,040 --> 03:11:38,040
Maybe that was...

3327
03:11:38,040 --> 03:11:40,360
No, no, I don't think so, because I think the snarker people would have taken credit

3328
03:11:40,360 --> 03:11:42,400
for it if they found it.

3329
03:11:42,400 --> 03:11:43,400
People are saying it was snarkers.

3330
03:11:43,400 --> 03:11:44,400
I don't think so.

3331
03:11:44,400 --> 03:11:48,920
Um, because I don't know how to go back and check, but I don't think it was them.

3332
03:11:48,920 --> 03:11:55,760
Has changed how you think about this moment in time when you're facing a war with Russia?

3333
03:11:55,760 --> 03:11:59,960
My grandfather went through World War II from start to finish.

3334
03:11:59,960 --> 03:12:05,000
My grandfather, my father's dad, and he was, yeah, from a family where there were several

3335
03:12:05,000 --> 03:12:07,280
brothers and all of them were killed by the Nazis.

3336
03:12:07,280 --> 03:12:13,080
I have very few relatives, in general, on both sides of my family, on my fathers and

3337
03:12:13,080 --> 03:12:14,640
my mothers.

3338
03:12:14,640 --> 03:12:18,240
Many relatives were killed by the fascists.

3339
03:12:18,240 --> 03:12:24,240
And that's why it always sounded so bizarre when Russia accused us, Ukraine, of supposedly

3340
03:12:24,240 --> 03:12:25,400
having Nazis.

3341
03:12:25,400 --> 03:12:27,600
It's bizarre and completely wild.

3342
03:12:27,600 --> 03:12:34,640
If people all knew even a little bit of history, they would realize that fascists in Ukraine,

3343
03:12:34,640 --> 03:12:35,960
fascism as such doesn't exist.

3344
03:12:35,960 --> 03:12:36,960
Why?

3345
03:12:36,960 --> 03:12:41,760
Because Ukraine understands deep in its roots what it means to be under the fascists.

3346
03:12:41,760 --> 03:12:48,120
Because during World War II, Ukraine was occupied 100%, completely, completely, totally.

3347
03:12:48,120 --> 03:12:54,000
Whereas Russia, Ukraine, Belarus was occupied, Ukraine, and Nazi Germany, it lost a huge

3348
03:12:54,000 --> 03:12:59,240
number of its soldiers who died specifically in Belarus, Ukraine, because we all, well,

3349
03:12:59,240 --> 03:13:02,680
because our countries or our lands, they stood and fought.

3350
03:13:02,680 --> 03:13:04,560
Russia was not occupied.

3351
03:13:04,560 --> 03:13:06,920
And that is also very important to understand.

3352
03:13:06,920 --> 03:13:11,480
That's why all of our people in Ukraine saw it, well, you know, as barbaric and an outrage

3353
03:13:11,480 --> 03:13:16,600
when Putin attacked us and said we have fascism and he's liberating Ukraine from fascists.

3354
03:13:16,600 --> 03:13:17,600
I mean, it's absurd.

3355
03:13:17,600 --> 03:13:19,120
What against the fascists?

3356
03:13:19,120 --> 03:13:20,120
We were the ones liberating.

3357
03:13:20,120 --> 03:13:25,000
A lot of people don't have the historical context on how this all began.

3358
03:13:25,000 --> 03:13:29,000
If I was a 16-year-old and I had no understanding of geopolitics and I asked you, President,

3359
03:13:29,000 --> 03:13:33,960
I said, could you explain to me the background context that I need to understand to understand

3360
03:13:33,960 --> 03:13:36,480
what the hell is going on at the moment?

3361
03:13:36,480 --> 03:13:38,040
Why are Russia going into Crimea?

3362
03:13:38,040 --> 03:13:39,960
What is Vladimir Putin's perspective?

3363
03:13:39,960 --> 03:13:41,320
Why does he think that that's okay?

3364
03:13:41,320 --> 03:13:43,640
Why does he think that he can invade Ukraine?

3365
03:13:43,640 --> 03:13:47,400
What is the historical context explained in the simplest terms to a 16-year-old about what

3366
03:13:47,400 --> 03:13:48,400
the hell is going on here?

3367
03:13:48,400 --> 03:13:51,120
And I'm going to give you all the time in the world to inform me.

3368
03:13:51,120 --> 03:13:58,800
There was an empire called the Soviet Union and that empire, it included a large number

3369
03:13:58,800 --> 03:14:01,400
of what are now independent states.

3370
03:14:01,400 --> 03:14:03,040
It's always like that with empires.

3371
03:14:03,040 --> 03:14:05,640
Without getting into the historical context, everyone will understand this.

3372
03:14:05,640 --> 03:14:06,840
It's always like that with empires.

3373
03:14:06,840 --> 03:14:13,680
Empires exist for a while and then they collapse because you can only hold everything together

3374
03:14:13,680 --> 03:14:19,360
through autocracy, a territory like that, so many people, through tyranny, through feudalism,

3375
03:14:19,360 --> 03:14:23,280
through slavery, through certainly not through freedom.

3376
03:14:23,280 --> 03:14:25,880
Empires don't survive on freedom.

3377
03:14:25,880 --> 03:14:27,320
And this is very important.

3378
03:14:27,320 --> 03:14:28,800
Why do empires fall apart?

3379
03:14:28,800 --> 03:14:32,960
I don't know exactly why, I just don't know the historical context, but thankfully, for

3380
03:14:32,960 --> 03:14:37,080
some reason, the United States decided not to go this direction, even though we could

3381
03:14:37,080 --> 03:14:43,080
have the US- What do you mean like going and taking Canada and Mexico?

3382
03:14:43,080 --> 03:14:50,200
No, no, no, just that we, the US never built left Israel, the US doesn't have an empire.

3383
03:14:50,200 --> 03:14:54,640
The US just, when we spread west and the manifest as anything, we had states.

3384
03:14:54,640 --> 03:14:56,720
They were just parts of the United States that got incorporated.

3385
03:14:56,720 --> 03:15:00,000
We didn't have other territories that we govern.

3386
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:04,240
and under like the US empire that were part of like some common wealth of US nations, we just we

3387
03:15:04,800 --> 03:15:08,400
Whatever, you know, we got or took over whatever it was it just became part of the US

3388
03:15:09,280 --> 03:15:13,280
Well, don't we now technically don't we know what like Puerto Rico?

3389
03:15:13,920 --> 03:15:18,320
Yeah, I mean we have we have some territories, but it's not an empire, right? Like we don't have like

3390
03:15:18,800 --> 03:15:21,840
It's not like a sizable portion of us or we don't rely on these things economically

3391
03:15:21,840 --> 03:15:23,120
Like these are very small things that well

3392
03:15:23,120 --> 03:15:25,760
We do have some of those things and I do think we should reassess our relationship

3393
03:15:25,760 --> 03:15:29,360
But compared to like the British Empire or like the Caliphate or like the Roman Empire

3394
03:15:29,360 --> 03:15:33,680
Like these massive empires that you know govern so many people that were never citizens directly

3395
03:15:35,360 --> 03:15:36,880
People want to be free

3396
03:15:36,880 --> 03:15:40,800
Because people compare their lives in an empire with life in other countries even small ones

3397
03:15:40,800 --> 03:15:44,160
They see how things develop there. They see how things develop there how they live walk freely

3398
03:15:45,040 --> 03:15:49,680
Choose any partner they want whatever hair color you like music clothes and so on

3399
03:15:50,160 --> 03:15:55,760
Well, the Soviet Union these empires like everyone always said the iron curtain. Why an iron curtain?

3400
03:15:55,760 --> 03:16:00,080
Wow, thank you for the 50 bucks, but you wouldn't see what's out there in the west

3401
03:16:00,880 --> 03:16:04,720
Europe in the United States of America in Britain or anywhere in Asia

3402
03:16:04,720 --> 03:16:09,280
So people couldn't see in terms of information an empire is hold

3403
03:16:10,160 --> 03:16:16,640
Control everything right so a complete information vacuum there. You don't exist. Nothing exists. No internet

3404
03:16:16,640 --> 03:16:22,720
Nothing television that you run and control and people get the information people live like fish in a fish tank

3405
03:16:23,360 --> 03:16:27,520
That's all it is the fish tank can be massive like the Soviet Union, but it's still a fish tank

3406
03:16:28,320 --> 03:16:30,640
North Korea is a smaller fish tank, but it's a fish tank

3407
03:16:31,280 --> 03:16:35,040
And that's what happened with the Soviet Union the Soviet Union fell apart

3408
03:16:35,760 --> 03:16:37,360
Countries were happy

3409
03:16:37,360 --> 03:16:40,880
Countries became independent smaller Ukraine is one of those countries and

3410
03:16:41,600 --> 03:16:44,720
Wow, nobody chef. Thank you for gifting

3411
03:16:45,760 --> 03:16:47,760
10 subs in kickchat

3412
03:16:47,760 --> 03:16:54,160
When identity emerges you have your own language your own music your own clothes and so on what exists all around the world

3413
03:16:54,320 --> 03:16:58,560
It's great tourism. You travel to Asia. You travel to Taqai land. You travel to Japan

3414
03:16:58,560 --> 03:17:04,560
You travel to the United States different culture different music food people and everyone lives freely

3415
03:17:04,640 --> 03:17:11,200
And it's really cool to soak in another culture. That's the diversity. Why does an empire fall apart because it's made up of these kinds of

3416
03:17:12,000 --> 03:17:14,640
People nations that want to have their own thing

3417
03:17:15,680 --> 03:17:19,840
The Soviet Union fell apart but nostalgia for the Soviet Union

3418
03:17:20,720 --> 03:17:22,080
stayed with people

3419
03:17:22,080 --> 03:17:24,240
Putin was

3420
03:17:24,240 --> 03:17:26,240
the president of Russia

3421
03:17:26,560 --> 03:17:28,560
And he said I gotta go for himself and he's

3422
03:17:29,600 --> 03:17:33,920
Why did the Soviet Union fall apart? Why couldn't they just

3423
03:17:34,960 --> 03:17:40,320
Quote-unquote like stick together as one block and like just continue on how how does how does a nation?

3424
03:17:40,880 --> 03:17:45,120
I guess like that fucking big etc. How does it just like crumble and fall apart?

3425
03:17:45,840 --> 03:17:49,200
I don't know exactly. I think it was a really really really complex or not really complicated

3426
03:17:49,200 --> 03:17:52,480
But I think it was like a multivariate thing. I don't think there's like a simple answer to that

3427
03:17:54,560 --> 03:17:56,640
I think the competing ideologies

3428
03:17:56,640 --> 03:18:00,320
I don't think communism fared as well in terms of political or

3429
03:18:00,960 --> 03:18:03,200
economic organization and then

3430
03:18:04,640 --> 03:18:08,240
Like the empire like the Soviet states obviously didn't feel

3431
03:18:09,200 --> 03:18:10,640
as welcome

3432
03:18:10,640 --> 03:18:14,000
You know being part of the Soviet Union as I think members of the west did

3433
03:18:14,880 --> 03:18:16,880
like one meme saying in the past was that

3434
03:18:17,760 --> 03:18:19,280
um

3435
03:18:19,280 --> 03:18:20,560
If you need

3436
03:18:20,560 --> 03:18:22,320
I think if you if you ask them

3437
03:18:22,320 --> 03:18:24,320
It's like if you need help and you ask them for help that

3438
03:18:25,600 --> 03:18:26,160
Fuck what is it?

3439
03:18:26,160 --> 03:18:28,960
It's like the us will show up if you ask for help in the Soviet Union will show up anyway

3440
03:18:28,960 --> 03:18:30,800
Or whatever regardless if you do or don't

3441
03:18:30,800 --> 03:18:34,720
But um, that's the yeah, it's it's it's it's it's complicated. I think

3442
03:18:35,600 --> 03:18:37,600
Hello. Hi. What's up?

3443
03:18:38,320 --> 03:18:41,120
I have arrived to give the answer. Okay

3444
03:18:42,080 --> 03:18:46,320
If you want of course, you can but I would disagree without knowing much about what you're going to say

3445
03:18:46,320 --> 03:18:50,800
But go for it. I'm pretty sure it was like one of the most complicated phenomena was like the 20th century

3446
03:18:51,200 --> 03:18:55,920
Was it a lot? Yeah, there's a lot of reasons. Yeah, but what do you mean exactly?

3447
03:18:55,920 --> 03:19:02,480
Modern though like economically ideologically why other countries like this wanted to leave or like the

3448
03:19:03,040 --> 03:19:09,120
You know, uh, why it collapsed in terms of like planned economy and the cold war like what what do you mean? Exactly?

3449
03:19:10,080 --> 03:19:15,520
Well, I mean, I think that's why I get really complicated. It seems to me like it all like everybody just fell out, right?

3450
03:19:15,520 --> 03:19:17,360
Nobody like stuck together. Yeah, we're phrasing it

3451
03:19:17,360 --> 03:19:21,920
So 91 the Soviet Union collapses and then all of the states leave and become independent

3452
03:19:22,000 --> 03:19:26,240
Why did that happen? Why did it cease to become or why did it cease to be the the Soviet Union?

3453
03:19:27,280 --> 03:19:32,640
Okay, so there are a little bit of a bunch of reasons at the point where it collapsed

3454
03:19:33,120 --> 03:19:37,920
Uh, first of all, uh, hold of the empire was way less

3455
03:19:38,320 --> 03:19:43,600
So after Stalin, it was less totalitarian. First of all, there was a lot less

3456
03:19:44,160 --> 03:19:51,200
A lot more freedom allowed in terms of like some sort of governing in the autonomous governing in the satellite states, right?

3457
03:19:51,280 --> 03:19:55,520
That's one thing. So a lot of people started to view it as an opportunity to

3458
03:19:56,640 --> 03:19:59,600
Basically become independent. There was projects called

3459
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:04,720
For example, like Karinsatz and things like that, that the people try to establish their own

3460
03:20:04,720 --> 03:20:09,440
languages again, their own independence. The culture started to separate a little bit,

3461
03:20:09,440 --> 03:20:14,640
so that helped. It was exactly for like years? Yeah, yeah, it wasn't really like a slow process.

3462
03:20:14,640 --> 03:20:20,800
The oppression was way less. The prosecution of the people who were not Russians became way less.

3463
03:20:20,800 --> 03:20:27,200
That's one thing. Second thing, of course, Cold War. Incredibly poorly went for the Soviet Union,

3464
03:20:27,200 --> 03:20:33,280
and shit was falling apart and barely held together. Absolutely horrendous corruption.

3465
03:20:33,280 --> 03:20:38,640
Planned economy was falling, and it was very difficult. After World War II, of course,

3466
03:20:38,640 --> 03:20:44,560
the rebuilding was also difficult, and a major economy, as it was. For example, Ukraine was like

3467
03:20:44,560 --> 03:20:52,480
70% destroyed, so just by example. All of that rebuilding, of course, was difficult and affected

3468
03:20:52,480 --> 03:20:58,720
how the economy that was so isolated worked, because most of the trade and shit was done

3469
03:20:58,720 --> 03:21:04,880
within the Soviet Union itself. Because of that, it was, of course, difficult. Keeping all the

3470
03:21:04,880 --> 03:21:10,240
countries they occupied afterward, World War II was difficult, because, for example, Czech Republic

3471
03:21:10,240 --> 03:21:16,960
had the revolution, which was peaceful, but they had the revolution to take down the Soviet occupation.

3472
03:21:16,960 --> 03:21:22,880
They also controlled Poland, which was also not happy about the Baltics, all of the additions.

3473
03:21:22,880 --> 03:21:28,640
They just couldn't really deal with that well after taking them. That's another thing. A third

3474
03:21:28,640 --> 03:21:32,560
thing, of course, was that... On that note for what you just said, one thing I think a lot of people

3475
03:21:32,560 --> 03:21:39,120
don't realize is that a lot of the governments for the Soviet states were basically, if not directly,

3476
03:21:39,120 --> 03:21:45,120
then through like, subversa means were installed by the Soviet Union. So even when you have, like,

3477
03:21:45,120 --> 03:21:48,720
people will call them civil wars, and they still refer to it as a lot. People will refer to things

3478
03:21:48,720 --> 03:21:53,280
like a civil war, but like, the Soviets are heavily backing one side. If you can think of, like,

3479
03:21:53,280 --> 03:21:56,400
all the things that you ever hear, I'm assuming about people talking about, like, the evil things

3480
03:21:56,400 --> 03:22:01,120
that US did in South America, like, take all of that. The Soviet Union did that with every,

3481
03:22:01,120 --> 03:22:03,920
basically, every satellite state, and then places in the Middle East as well. Like, that's how they

3482
03:22:03,920 --> 03:22:07,200
got their puppet regimes, and even if the local population didn't like them or didn't want them,

3483
03:22:07,200 --> 03:22:11,840
they were always supporting their own regimes. Yeah, basically, puppet regimes were like almost

3484
03:22:11,840 --> 03:22:18,080
everywhere, except probably Czechs, like, Czech actually kind of like, you know, had their own

3485
03:22:18,080 --> 03:22:23,280
people they chose, but then it all went to shit anyway. But the point is that most of them have

3486
03:22:23,280 --> 03:22:30,160
been puppet regimes, and they also had the people who were, like, either appointed by Moscow over a

3487
03:22:30,160 --> 03:22:36,720
loyal to the Soviet regime and Moscow as well. So it's kind of like that. It wasn't violent everywhere.

3488
03:22:36,720 --> 03:22:43,280
So, for example, Ukraine fought a five-year-old war and lost. So Soviet Union occupied us,

3489
03:22:43,920 --> 03:22:48,720
but it wasn't like that with every country. Some country weren't really, like, you know,

3490
03:22:48,720 --> 03:22:52,800
militarily occupied, but there were puppet regimes installed. Hungary, for example,

3491
03:22:52,800 --> 03:22:56,000
they militarily occupied, but you know, it's a whole lot of things. Anyway,

3492
03:22:56,000 --> 03:23:02,720
point is that that was difficult. And of course, when the Hungarian occupation,

3493
03:23:02,720 --> 03:23:06,720
like, that was so violent. I think that's where the term "tanki" comes from, because I think they

3494
03:23:06,720 --> 03:23:10,960
literally rolled tanks and they were like running over people with tanks. Yeah, I think that's what

3495
03:23:13,120 --> 03:23:20,560
200,000 people just basically escaped. It was a mess. And with Ukraine, for example, after they

3496
03:23:20,560 --> 03:23:29,120
took, after we lost the war, they partitioned us between Poland and themselves, which is ironic,

3497
03:23:29,120 --> 03:23:34,880
considering that they did the same with two Poland, with Germany and Russia, so, you know,

3498
03:23:34,880 --> 03:23:39,840
karma. But they kind of, you know, separated the country there, but also immediately after they

3499
03:23:39,840 --> 03:23:47,280
took Ukraine, the Red Terror started, which killed about half a million people. But, you know,

3500
03:23:47,280 --> 03:23:52,480
it's a whole other story. Anyway, point is that all of that, of course, happened. And also,

3501
03:23:52,480 --> 03:24:00,720
Iron Curtain fell apart during World War II. So it was very difficult to keep the idea, right,

3502
03:24:00,720 --> 03:24:06,800
the isolation, the fish tank, because so many people went to fight. For example, both of my

3503
03:24:06,800 --> 03:24:14,000
grandfathers, they both went to war and Grand grandfathers, sorry, not grandfathers, grandfathers.

3504
03:24:14,000 --> 03:24:23,920
And then they both were in Berlin, in Germany. And so a lot of people saw, you know, how the West

3505
03:24:23,920 --> 03:24:30,640
looked like, how the dreaded capitalist countries lived, and the fact that they were like 20 million

3506
03:24:30,640 --> 03:24:38,880
pavilion times wealthier, even during war, than we ever were. So upon returning people, a lot of

3507
03:24:38,880 --> 03:24:43,760
the people were actually like arrested and thrown in camps and shit like that to keep, by the way,

3508
03:24:43,760 --> 03:24:49,200
that knowledge out of the, you know, but you can't really keep it fully. So many people just

3509
03:24:49,200 --> 03:24:54,800
returned with that knowledge that that what we were told about other countries just isn't true.

3510
03:24:55,520 --> 03:24:59,840
So yeah, all of that affected many other things, of course,

3511
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:05,760
economic things. I'm not like the strongest guy on the economy, but of course with the Cold War,

3512
03:25:06,480 --> 03:25:13,520
it negatively affected us. And there was deficit, there were many attempts by the Soviet Union

3513
03:25:13,520 --> 03:25:18,960
to sort of hold out to this, but it was clear that it was falling apart. But more importantly,

3514
03:25:18,960 --> 03:25:25,840
the main reason, of course, is that we hated this shit, and we called it the prison of nations.

3515
03:25:26,720 --> 03:25:31,920
And we wanted to get the fuck out of it. And only Russians really didn't want to,

3516
03:25:31,920 --> 03:25:36,720
because they were the hegemony. And they were the dominating power that ruled it.

3517
03:25:36,720 --> 03:25:42,640
The essentially Soviet Union is a Russian Empire 2.0, and any other person was

3518
03:25:42,640 --> 03:25:48,560
subservient to Russia. And yeah, that's why every other motherfucker except the Russians was happy

3519
03:25:48,560 --> 03:25:55,520
to bail out. And that's why we have this war now. But that's a whole other thing. That's a short

3520
03:25:55,520 --> 03:25:58,720
answer. There's a longer answer, but yeah, there's a lot of reasons.

3521
03:25:59,280 --> 03:26:05,920
Very complicated. Yeah, it is complicated. It's a mess. It was a mess back then, and it is now.

3522
03:26:05,920 --> 03:26:10,640
And people, of course, use the propaganda to say that people, for example, in Ukraine,

3523
03:26:10,640 --> 03:26:16,640
didn't vote to leave, which is false. They did vote overwhelmingly in Eastern regions as well.

3524
03:26:16,640 --> 03:26:24,560
And yeah, it's just that they were identity building again in countries that under the boot,

3525
03:26:25,280 --> 03:26:32,320
the national identities were squashed by people like Lenin and Stalin, because that was the whole

3526
03:26:32,320 --> 03:26:38,800
plan, right? You have to crush a national identity of other people, and you have for them to become

3527
03:26:38,800 --> 03:26:45,680
Russian. So you can't allow language, you can't allow education in the language of their own,

3528
03:26:45,680 --> 03:26:52,080
you can't allow religion, you can't allow traditional ethnic things, you can't allow

3529
03:26:52,080 --> 03:26:59,760
celebration, festivals, festivities, anything that is traditional, because that by their logic was

3530
03:27:00,480 --> 03:27:06,880
amplifying the nationalism, so the separation, right? Because Soviet people needed to be just

3531
03:27:06,880 --> 03:27:13,280
Soviet people. And by Soviet, you can equalize that to Russian, right? It needed to be one language,

3532
03:27:13,280 --> 03:27:20,400
one culture, so there is no nationalism brewing. And if there is nationalism brewing, it needs to

3533
03:27:20,400 --> 03:27:28,240
be exterminated. So squashed by either extreme measurements, like killing people, mass execution,

3534
03:27:28,240 --> 03:27:34,320
glags, deportations, whatever you want. And yeah, until they just pretty much give up. And

3535
03:27:35,360 --> 03:27:42,400
after World War II, that boot was no longer as heavy on everyone's neck. So that's kind of why

3536
03:27:42,400 --> 03:27:48,880
the nationalist movement started to pop up all over the place. Yeah, that's, you know, that's the

3537
03:27:48,880 --> 03:27:58,800
short answer, really. All right, well, thank you. Yeah. Okay. Hmm. Have you seen that this

3538
03:27:58,800 --> 03:28:05,440
fucking bitch, Elon is now trying to say that we violated the terms, absolute lie, we're like

3539
03:28:05,440 --> 03:28:11,360
demanding some proof, my guy, prove that, why you turned off that shit. And he says that we

3540
03:28:11,360 --> 03:28:17,200
shouldn't have used Starlink for to kill people, quote unquote, but it was actually

3541
03:28:17,200 --> 03:28:23,200
star shield that was turned off, or not turned off the speed limit was imposed. Yeah. And

3542
03:28:24,000 --> 03:28:29,040
star shield was agreed upon that it's used in militarily purposes. So it's a bunch of

3543
03:28:29,040 --> 03:28:33,760
fucking lies. And I think his ass is every Twitter bot was telling me that a star

3544
03:28:33,760 --> 03:28:37,040
shield can only be touched by the United States government. And Elon doesn't have anything to do

3545
03:28:37,040 --> 03:28:42,320
with it. No, that's what Elon said. He pointed a finger at Trump, Trump pointed a finger at him.

3546
03:28:42,320 --> 03:28:46,800
They're like a fucking five year olds pointing fingers at each other. It's not me. It's that

3547
03:28:46,800 --> 03:28:54,480
guy, you know, so yeah, it's just absolute mass killed people, and absolutely sabotaged

3548
03:28:54,480 --> 03:29:00,880
operations. And I have been blasted by jet hasher heads for two days, because we can't stop them

3549
03:29:00,880 --> 03:29:07,680
with the speed limit. And yeah, it's just I fucking I hate those people so much I don't even know. Okay.

3550
03:29:09,760 --> 03:29:15,520
Anyway, I think the way that I read it, it feels like I'm almost positive, unless something big

3551
03:29:15,520 --> 03:29:19,760
comes out that Trump gave the order. And now Trump is trying to get Elon to basically just take the

3552
03:29:19,760 --> 03:29:24,160
fall for him. And Elon is a massive fucking Trump simp. And so he'll do whatever daddy Trump tells

3553
03:29:24,160 --> 03:29:28,480
him. But I feel like the order perhaps the order came from from Trump. And now Elon is just trying

3554
03:29:28,480 --> 03:29:32,320
to run cover for him using a bunch of bullshit excuses. There was multiple journalists in the

3555
03:29:32,320 --> 03:29:38,400
United States and journalists that wrote that it was Elon who initiated it that he went to Trump.

3556
03:29:38,400 --> 03:29:42,640
Yes, I saw those. I saw those articles, but it made it sound like there was like a meeting there

3557
03:29:42,640 --> 03:29:47,680
and they had a discussion. And then that was like Trump Trump is basically because our shit is

3558
03:29:47,680 --> 03:29:52,640
fucked in the US in terms of energy prices right now. And the around war is just so bad in so many

3559
03:29:52,640 --> 03:29:58,320
ways. And so I think Trump thought that like, if he can just get somehow some relief on Russia,

3560
03:29:58,320 --> 03:30:00,320
that may be that they can ship more deals.

3561
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:04,720
which is retarded. None of this is going to even help us that much. And it's bad for a whole host of

3562
03:30:05,600 --> 03:30:09,280
moral and intelligence related reasons, like the fact that we're trying to alleviate sanctions

3563
03:30:09,280 --> 03:30:12,400
on a country and buy stuff from a country that's giving intelligence to an enemy that we're at

3564
03:30:12,400 --> 03:30:17,760
war with that's killing our soldiers is crazy. I feel like it's a Trump idea and now he just

3565
03:30:17,760 --> 03:30:23,040
wants Elon to be the fall guy for it if there's a fallout that's not going on. Yeah, I mean,

3566
03:30:23,040 --> 03:30:31,040
I pretty I appreciate that Zlatzki went on this whole tour tour tour tour tour tour when went on

3567
03:30:31,040 --> 03:30:37,600
this whole tour to basically say fuck this shit, you know, because it really worked so many people

3568
03:30:37,600 --> 03:30:44,640
offended and like upset and in Europe there are so many initiatives now to build a replacement for

3569
03:30:44,640 --> 03:30:52,160
Starling. We now gave the basically made a contract with Norway to which Finland also joined to build

3570
03:30:52,160 --> 03:30:57,200
a separate system of satellites that can work. And we also now have investment and

3571
03:30:57,200 --> 03:31:02,320
start and begin production in building domestic things that can replace it because

3572
03:31:02,320 --> 03:31:09,120
we made a big huge deal out of it. Think fuck. And we were like, how can you rely on a ketamine

3573
03:31:09,120 --> 03:31:16,480
frog trillionaire who is like, absolutely deranged fuck to with your defense? Like, when will he have

3574
03:31:16,480 --> 03:31:23,520
a bad mood? And you know, he had he said he got carried away. You know, who got carried away?

3575
03:31:23,520 --> 03:31:27,200
Or wait, who got carried away? Or wait, can you find out last part again? Who got carried away?

3576
03:31:27,200 --> 03:31:34,480
Elon said like he would carry the way corpses were carried away. Okay, of people who died because

3577
03:31:34,480 --> 03:31:40,240
of that decision. So no, I will not be silenced. Okay, we will scream about this shit everywhere.

3578
03:31:40,240 --> 03:31:46,240
And everyone probably will now see how fucking dangerous it is to rely on the United States and

3579
03:31:46,240 --> 03:31:51,360
starting to things like that. And hopefully we'll build something that is independent because this

3580
03:31:51,360 --> 03:31:58,400
is fucked. Yeah, like even as Americans, like, I mean, it shouldn't feel good that the like the

3581
03:31:58,400 --> 03:32:03,440
United States president is our commander in chief. So he can decide like how to conduct wars at the

3582
03:32:03,440 --> 03:32:07,600
highest level. But it shouldn't be that the president just gets to arbitrarily make decisions

3583
03:32:07,600 --> 03:32:11,600
of who we support and who we don't support at any given point in time without consulting the

3584
03:32:11,600 --> 03:32:15,440
Congress. These aren't supposed to be decisions that our president can make unilaterally any it

3585
03:32:15,440 --> 03:32:19,360
literally is just based on his mood, based on how he feels the economy is doing, based on what

3586
03:32:19,360 --> 03:32:22,480
fucking, you know, Putin come into his brain the last time they had a conversation, he just like

3587
03:32:22,480 --> 03:32:26,080
makes these huge decisions and it's like, I'm sorry, like this is not it is not at the sole

3588
03:32:26,080 --> 03:32:30,960
discretion of the president to decide like how who were aligned with at any point in a war is

3589
03:32:30,960 --> 03:32:38,800
just insane. But we don't end up in this is private citizen. Yeah, he's not even a goddamn,

3590
03:32:38,800 --> 03:32:43,680
like a president or like a minister of defense or some shit. You know, it's just, yes, it's just

3591
03:32:43,680 --> 03:32:48,880
absolutely figured that he should would fuck over the, I think it's the hatchet act. But no, we

3592
03:32:48,880 --> 03:32:52,800
saw about that first term. We don't ever talk about that anymore. I think that was like 1799.

3593
03:32:52,800 --> 03:32:56,960
So nobody goes to fuck. No, no, no, people gave a fuck. But we don't talk about it because Trump

3594
03:32:56,960 --> 03:33:02,000
violated it so many fucking times in his first term. Like they he literally does, um, demonstrations

3595
03:33:02,000 --> 03:33:05,120
with like fucking US troops and shit, political, political part of the deficit or troops in the

3596
03:33:05,120 --> 03:33:10,880
background is fucking ridiculous. One of his recent campaign videos had like, um, or maybe it was a

3597
03:33:10,880 --> 03:33:14,160
picture they posted on Twitter, had like a campaign ad in the background for somebody,

3598
03:33:14,160 --> 03:33:17,040
which is should be a violation because you're not able to do them for the property. Yeah,

3599
03:33:17,040 --> 03:33:22,880
or with troops or soldiers or US anything. Just whatever. It's stupid. Yeah, well, you know,

3600
03:33:22,880 --> 03:33:27,920
it's the whole country is like absolutely pissed off. I have, we have been pissed off multiple times,

3601
03:33:27,920 --> 03:33:35,200
but to this extent, probably not. And it's just people I like absolutely fed up. I heard from my,

3602
03:33:35,200 --> 03:33:39,920
you know, people who are friends and stuff who are like, uh, we're still hoping that maybe,

3603
03:33:39,920 --> 03:33:45,440
you know, there is some chance you can rely like on some sort of diplomacy. Uh, now even they are

3604
03:33:45,440 --> 03:33:51,200
like, no, fuck these people. I mean, sorry, America. I mean, like no offense, but you know,

3605
03:33:51,200 --> 03:33:56,240
that's kind of how they feel. And they're like, no, fuck that shit. We're not relying on this

3606
03:33:56,240 --> 03:34:02,320
fucking Trump on anything. He's like full on Russian ally and he's an enemy of ours. And so

3607
03:34:02,320 --> 03:34:07,600
with the United States under his command, and it's like very aggressive, like a super aggressive.

3608
03:34:07,600 --> 03:34:13,760
And I mean, I think justified and everyone's like, oh, you know, Zaleski shouldn't have said those things.

3609
03:34:13,760 --> 03:34:17,840
You will, you know, hear him saying this interview later. And he shouldn't have still tried to lick

3610
03:34:17,840 --> 03:34:24,640
his ass. And I'm like, to what extent, like how long are we supposed to fucking, you know, do this,

3611
03:34:24,640 --> 03:34:31,840
that you have a narcissistic, demented fucking, whatever is this person? I mean, how can you

3612
03:34:31,840 --> 03:34:36,160
appease him? How can we pull the force to work? The crazy, the craziest, and we're dealing with

3613
03:34:36,160 --> 03:34:40,000
this even in our domestic politics. But people don't understand anything about like what a

3614
03:34:40,000 --> 03:34:44,000
Peasement is or what a Peasement does. Like, a Peasement is really good at alleviating

3615
03:34:44,000 --> 03:34:48,560
temporary discomfort, but it will put you in a bad spot in the long term, because you don't ever

3616
03:34:48,560 --> 03:34:52,880
get the thing you actually want. So like, when Zaleski is going around and being nice to tramper

3617
03:34:52,880 --> 03:34:56,800
whatever in the past, like it probably helped a little bit in terms of the US position with

3618
03:34:56,800 --> 03:34:58,800
with Ukraine at that particular point in time,

3619
03:34:58,800 --> 03:35:00,040
but in their long term.

3620
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:03,520
fuck, it hasn't done anything, right? The US is like, this playing the most fuckshit games

3621
03:35:03,520 --> 03:35:08,160
imaginable. Like the thing that Trump did right now relating to, um, relating to like

3622
03:35:08,160 --> 03:35:12,320
turning on and toggling fucking styling basically to get deals with the Russians is it's almost

3623
03:35:12,320 --> 03:35:16,520
what he got impeached for in his, in his first term, which was playing games with federally

3624
03:35:16,520 --> 03:35:20,240
allocated money to Ukraine for to gain some kind of electoral advantage, which is kind

3625
03:35:20,240 --> 03:35:24,040
of sort of what he's doing right now. And it's like, yeah, it can't be the appeasement thing.

3626
03:35:24,040 --> 03:35:28,360
And then also remember every single narrative that we heard in the beginning of the war,

3627
03:35:28,360 --> 03:35:32,840
because it's not just not giving weapons to you guys. And it's not just, uh, you know,

3628
03:35:32,840 --> 03:35:35,600
telling you guys that, uh, you know, we need to find an offer app for peace and blah, blah,

3629
03:35:35,600 --> 03:35:38,320
blah. It was also telling you guys, like, you're never allowed to shoot into Russia.

3630
03:35:38,320 --> 03:35:41,160
You can't ever strike passer terrorists are going to do it to everybody. Well, where are

3631
03:35:41,160 --> 03:35:44,480
those talks? Apparently that was all bullshit, which we all knew it was, right? But it's

3632
03:35:44,480 --> 03:35:47,200
like now you've got like drone attacks going up in Moscow. Nobody's talking about nuking

3633
03:35:47,200 --> 03:35:50,780
anybody. Like all of that, all of those arguments were bullshit. Where are the people where,

3634
03:35:50,780 --> 03:35:54,140
why isn't mere shimmer? Anybody walking that shit back now, they've used the exact same

3635
03:35:54,140 --> 03:35:56,360
arguments they were using before and they haven't updated anything, even though every

3636
03:35:56,360 --> 03:36:00,440
prediction was wrong. So it's like, whatever. They're always the point one, no matter what

3637
03:36:00,440 --> 03:36:05,020
happens. So they still will return to exact same talking points. Even there are completely

3638
03:36:05,020 --> 03:36:11,680
irrelevant. Yeah. And it's like we only got restrictions. We only got hurdles, obstacles,

3639
03:36:11,680 --> 03:36:17,200
and insane fucking bullshit, dude. Like I can't deal with that anymore. I can't just

3640
03:36:17,200 --> 03:36:23,720
eat up this humiliation, the lies, the abuse, the being treated, like absolute stinking pile

3641
03:36:23,720 --> 03:36:29,680
of shit every time. And like, how many times can you take it? And yeah, no, I don't think

3642
03:36:29,680 --> 03:36:34,320
we should take it. I think we should bomb the shit out of those fucking diesel things.

3643
03:36:34,320 --> 03:36:40,540
100% just to fuck with Trump, if anything else. Oh, exactly. Because of that. One thing

3644
03:36:40,540 --> 03:36:43,880
somebody brought up that was actually really funny to me. And I don't suggest doing this

3645
03:36:43,880 --> 03:36:47,040
because it is just going to make people bully the fuck out of you. But I wonder what people

3646
03:36:47,040 --> 03:36:51,760
would say if people would be incredibly critical towards Iran and towards the Palestinians,

3647
03:36:51,760 --> 03:36:55,360
if they use that same logic of like, why would they ever attack Israel? That could be World

3648
03:36:55,360 --> 03:36:58,720
War three. They have nuclear weapons. You can't attack Israel. They've got nukes. Why would

3649
03:36:58,720 --> 03:37:01,720
you attack Israel? They've got like, if you were to wheel that argument out for any of

3650
03:37:01,720 --> 03:37:05,520
the people fighting Israel, they would lose their fucking minds. But like, obviously they're

3651
03:37:05,520 --> 03:37:08,480
not real arguments. These are red herring bullshit arguments and people just using to

3652
03:37:08,480 --> 03:37:11,700
hide their actual political positions, which is anybody that they view as being friendly

3653
03:37:11,700 --> 03:37:15,080
to the West is an enemy to them. And they think that their country needs to die. And

3654
03:37:15,080 --> 03:37:16,880
it's just like, yeah, it's ridiculous.

3655
03:37:16,880 --> 03:37:22,560
Like, explain to me, the left is still this day. Stay. It's a proxy war. And we are the

3656
03:37:22,560 --> 03:37:29,400
proxies of the United States. Do they not see? Yeah. Like, what is happening? Like,

3657
03:37:29,400 --> 03:37:33,440
like wouldn't be the first person to abuse a proxy for his own interests? If that was

3658
03:37:33,440 --> 03:37:36,760
the case or whatever, it seems like that's not happening. So like every prediction made

3659
03:37:36,760 --> 03:37:42,920
about this is wrong. Yeah. Anyway, it's just it's pretty tiresome. I've been been depressed

3660
03:37:42,920 --> 03:37:47,000
a little bit for a couple of days because of this, but now I'm not now I'm in that angry

3661
03:37:47,000 --> 03:37:53,000
mood. And it's a very good because that motivates you. And yeah, and I spoke with with a bunch

3662
03:37:53,000 --> 03:37:56,800
of soldiers about this. And they were also pretty worried because of course we are waiting

3663
03:37:56,800 --> 03:38:01,000
terrible winter in terms of like a barrage of ballistics that we can't take down because

3664
03:38:01,000 --> 03:38:06,840
patriots have been withheld. We can't we don't even by the way, he doesn't allow us to get

3665
03:38:06,840 --> 03:38:10,400
the ones we bought. Yeah, I've heard they're sitting in places in Europe right now just

3666
03:38:10,400 --> 03:38:16,320
waiting for it's probably needed to defend us against the Iranian shit that we're doing.

3667
03:38:16,320 --> 03:38:21,240
No, they're just there. I think they're just waiting to be shipped. But for some reason,

3668
03:38:21,240 --> 03:38:24,880
the US is blocking. I don't even know what Trump's rationale is on it. Do you like what

3669
03:38:24,880 --> 03:38:31,320
the fuck do you even understand? That's like, that's, that's, that's, that's logistics.

3670
03:38:31,320 --> 03:38:37,360
That's food. That's, that's in the energy. That's, that's everything. We need them. It's

3671
03:38:37,360 --> 03:38:41,920
just, yeah, it's absolutely fucking disturbing. They, by the way, destroyed, destroyed the

3672
03:38:41,920 --> 03:38:47,800
biggest storage. And the biggest, like the supermarket that was remaining in my city

3673
03:38:47,800 --> 03:38:52,320
today, by the way, it's completely gone, like burned. I mean, it's not gonna kill us, but

3674
03:38:52,320 --> 03:38:57,440
you know, it's just, it's just gonna be that the entire winter of food, energy, heat and

3675
03:38:57,440 --> 03:39:02,560
power, all of this is gonna be fucked. And, and, and yeah, it's just, I don't know, dude,

3676
03:39:02,560 --> 03:39:08,480
it's just so frustrating to deal with. And you're like barely holding on and people keep

3677
03:39:08,480 --> 03:39:16,480
putting more and more and more weight on our shoulders every day. And that's how it feels.

3678
03:39:16,480 --> 03:39:20,880
And yeah, you know, just try to not to snap your back basically, right? Because like we

3679
03:39:20,880 --> 03:39:25,360
have to, we don't have like any other choice, but it's just so frustrating. And you have

3680
03:39:25,360 --> 03:39:33,040
this bullshit in France that all but cement that got them le pan over their fuck. Do you

3681
03:39:33,040 --> 03:39:37,760
feel angry at like the Ukrainians who decided to like leave and go and like fleet other countries

3682
03:39:37,760 --> 03:39:45,480
or no? Yeah, it's a complicated question. But I will answer honestly, but it kind of depends

3683
03:39:45,480 --> 03:39:51,080
on the person, right? There are people who left, who I, you know, can understand and empathize

3684
03:39:51,080 --> 03:39:56,280
with legitimately, for example, people from Danvas, from Harky, from Hearson, from Sume

3685
03:39:56,280 --> 03:39:59,960
Zaprigia, the front line series, right? And they have been

3686
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:02,520
in completely destroyed all of their livelihoods.

3687
03:40:02,520 --> 03:40:03,920
They lost everything.

3688
03:40:03,920 --> 03:40:06,800
They saw their neighbors and their loved ones

3689
03:40:06,800 --> 03:40:08,840
being fucking killed and they couldn't take it

3690
03:40:08,840 --> 03:40:09,680
and they left.

3691
03:40:09,680 --> 03:40:11,840
I can't be mad about the people like that.

3692
03:40:11,840 --> 03:40:14,280
Of course, it's irrational.

3693
03:40:14,280 --> 03:40:18,240
But yeah, but there are people who are called,

3694
03:40:18,240 --> 03:40:21,520
how to translate this, kind of fancy.

3695
03:40:21,520 --> 03:40:24,480
But we call them zyopki, which is like,

3696
03:40:24,480 --> 03:40:27,720
the best thing I can say is fuck offers.

3697
03:40:27,720 --> 03:40:31,060
So like people who fucked off, fuck offers.

3698
03:40:31,060 --> 03:40:33,880
And those are the people who people kind of hold

3699
03:40:33,880 --> 03:40:36,240
a little bit of a contempt, let's say.

3700
03:40:36,240 --> 03:40:38,240
So I would say I hate them or anything,

3701
03:40:38,240 --> 03:40:41,800
but I'm like, you know, giving them the side-eyed.

3702
03:40:41,800 --> 03:40:43,680
Like people from the West, for example,

3703
03:40:43,680 --> 03:40:46,000
who cities are not really bombed at all

3704
03:40:46,000 --> 03:40:48,400
and they like escaped and then started,

3705
03:40:48,400 --> 03:40:52,200
basically, you know, given apartments,

3706
03:40:52,200 --> 03:40:53,840
not given how it's called in English,

3707
03:40:53,840 --> 03:40:55,440
not selling.

3708
03:40:55,440 --> 03:40:58,760
Renton, yeah, Renton, Renton, their apartments

3709
03:40:58,760 --> 03:41:03,760
with insane prices to people who escaped from the East.

3710
03:41:03,760 --> 03:41:05,000
And it was so shit.

3711
03:41:05,000 --> 03:41:05,840
- That's wild.

3712
03:41:05,840 --> 03:41:06,680
- Yeah.

3713
03:41:06,680 --> 03:41:07,680
- That's so shit.

3714
03:41:07,680 --> 03:41:10,800
- You know what I don't mind when people are doing bad things,

3715
03:41:10,800 --> 03:41:12,840
the thing that we are missing now in society,

3716
03:41:12,840 --> 03:41:15,600
I don't mind when people have shame.

3717
03:41:15,600 --> 03:41:18,240
So like, if somebody wants to retreat from a thing

3718
03:41:18,240 --> 03:41:20,080
or somebody doesn't want to take on a fight

3719
03:41:20,080 --> 03:41:22,320
that I think they have the capacity to do,

3720
03:41:22,320 --> 03:41:23,400
not necessarily been a physical fight,

3721
03:41:23,400 --> 03:41:24,680
but maybe just some obligation to feel.

3722
03:41:24,680 --> 03:41:26,880
And like, they shirk from that responsibility,

3723
03:41:26,880 --> 03:41:28,680
but they're like, you know, when you talk to them about it,

3724
03:41:28,680 --> 03:41:30,440
they get kind of like, their eyes dart,

3725
03:41:30,440 --> 03:41:32,320
and maybe I guess, and there's like some shame,

3726
03:41:32,320 --> 03:41:33,720
then it's like, okay, fine.

3727
03:41:33,720 --> 03:41:36,440
But like the shamelessness where people conduct themselves

3728
03:41:36,440 --> 03:41:38,840
in bad ways and then they like take advantage of it

3729
03:41:38,840 --> 03:41:40,520
or they grift on it or they talk,

3730
03:41:40,520 --> 03:41:42,480
and it's like, oh man, not you bro, get the fight.

3731
03:41:42,480 --> 03:41:43,680
- Not everyone is like that.

3732
03:41:43,680 --> 03:41:45,320
Of course, there are legitimate refugees.

3733
03:41:45,320 --> 03:41:47,120
Of course, most people probably are,

3734
03:41:47,120 --> 03:41:48,320
but there are people who left

3735
03:41:48,320 --> 03:41:51,000
and they're like, not only they started renting

3736
03:41:51,000 --> 03:41:53,640
their apartments, insane prices.

3737
03:41:53,640 --> 03:41:56,720
Like three, five times more than it was.

3738
03:41:56,720 --> 03:42:00,560
But get cash out the money, not anymore,

3739
03:42:00,560 --> 03:42:03,120
but in '22 and '23, they cashed out the money

3740
03:42:03,120 --> 03:42:05,280
for being refugees.

3741
03:42:05,280 --> 03:42:10,280
So, dude, like imagine you're like getting insane money

3742
03:42:11,160 --> 03:42:13,320
from the apartments by renting them

3743
03:42:13,320 --> 03:42:17,400
to people who are desperate and lost their homes.

3744
03:42:17,400 --> 03:42:19,160
And then you also get the money

3745
03:42:19,160 --> 03:42:20,640
because you're poor refugee.

3746
03:42:20,640 --> 03:42:25,360
- Ew, like me from Ukraine, oh yeah, fuck that, yeah.

3747
03:42:25,360 --> 03:42:26,960
- No, Ukraine, other countries.

3748
03:42:26,960 --> 03:42:29,080
So like Germany. - They're like left country.

3749
03:42:29,080 --> 03:42:31,080
They left Ukraine and now we're getting refugee money

3750
03:42:31,080 --> 03:42:33,200
and for another country, I got you, I got you.

3751
03:42:33,200 --> 03:42:36,000
Yeah, that shit is like vile.

3752
03:42:36,000 --> 03:42:37,200
- Miss me with that shit.

3753
03:42:37,200 --> 03:42:39,280
So yeah, that's the ones I detest.

3754
03:42:39,280 --> 03:42:41,520
But the regular people, not so much.

3755
03:42:41,520 --> 03:42:44,360
It's just like how to say this, like you ask,

3756
03:42:44,360 --> 03:42:45,920
but I'm not thinking, you know, it's just,

3757
03:42:45,920 --> 03:42:48,400
it's many people who left on my friends, for example,

3758
03:42:48,400 --> 03:42:50,520
I don't detest them and I don't feel it.

3759
03:42:50,520 --> 03:42:53,400
But I just, how to say this, when we talk,

3760
03:42:53,400 --> 03:42:58,400
I feel like I have nothing in common with them, you know?

3761
03:42:58,760 --> 03:42:59,880
It's kind of difficult.

3762
03:42:59,880 --> 03:43:02,240
We live in so different realities now

3763
03:43:02,240 --> 03:43:06,160
that it's mostly, I just, I feel like I knew them,

3764
03:43:06,160 --> 03:43:07,600
you know, they are my friends obviously,

3765
03:43:07,600 --> 03:43:09,120
it used to be at least and stuff.

3766
03:43:09,120 --> 03:43:11,680
But I feel like it's such a big gap between us

3767
03:43:11,680 --> 03:43:14,200
that I have nothing to say to them.

3768
03:43:14,200 --> 03:43:17,360
And they start complaining about like mundane shit

3769
03:43:17,360 --> 03:43:21,720
in their lives and, you know, things they encounter

3770
03:43:21,720 --> 03:43:23,760
in like Western countries and shit like that

3771
03:43:23,760 --> 03:43:24,920
that they don't like or something.

3772
03:43:24,920 --> 03:43:26,440
And I'm like, listen to this and I'm like, bro,

3773
03:43:26,440 --> 03:43:30,080
like I'm literally fucking, I haven't slept for years now,

3774
03:43:30,080 --> 03:43:35,080
normally or at all, like without absolute insomnia nightmare.

3775
03:43:35,120 --> 03:43:37,520
Like I'm like barely alive at this point.

3776
03:43:37,520 --> 03:43:40,680
Please, like I can't listen to those complaints

3777
03:43:40,680 --> 03:43:42,200
with a serious face, you know?

3778
03:43:42,200 --> 03:43:44,600
It's just, that's the, I don't blame them,

3779
03:43:44,600 --> 03:43:46,560
they have their own lives, of course, they, you know,

3780
03:43:46,560 --> 03:43:47,920
people have their own problems.

3781
03:43:47,920 --> 03:43:49,280
- Yeah, it's mega autistic.

3782
03:43:49,280 --> 03:43:50,520
I've been in a situation like before,

3783
03:43:50,520 --> 03:43:51,880
where you'll have like a friend who's like

3784
03:43:51,880 --> 03:43:53,480
complaining to another friend about like,

3785
03:43:53,480 --> 03:43:54,880
they've had like a cold for four days of like,

3786
03:43:54,880 --> 03:43:56,360
the other friend is like fucking a lupus

3787
03:43:56,360 --> 03:43:57,640
for some insane auto magazine.

3788
03:43:57,640 --> 03:44:00,560
It's like, maybe just, maybe not that, let's not.

3789
03:44:00,560 --> 03:44:02,080
Let's just like, complain to somebody else, bro.

3790
03:44:02,080 --> 03:44:03,200
- Yeah, listen to it.

3791
03:44:03,200 --> 03:44:04,280
Yeah, yeah, listen to it.

3792
03:44:04,280 --> 03:44:05,640
I think you feel like that's a little bit

3793
03:44:05,640 --> 03:44:07,400
of resentment building up, you know?

3794
03:44:07,400 --> 03:44:09,320
And it's just, yeah, it's just kind of difficult.

3795
03:44:09,320 --> 03:44:11,960
Like I, I, I, I, I, I don't want to hate people,

3796
03:44:11,960 --> 03:44:14,360
like, you know, feel, you know, resentment towards them,

3797
03:44:14,360 --> 03:44:15,480
but it's, it's difficult.

3798
03:44:15,480 --> 03:44:17,920
And it often becomes a conversation, by the way, guys,

3799
03:44:17,920 --> 03:44:19,680
this annoys everyone who is here.

3800
03:44:19,680 --> 03:44:22,000
So I'm sharing this from every person

3801
03:44:22,000 --> 03:44:24,840
who has like family or friends who are left.

3802
03:44:24,840 --> 03:44:26,680
They are like, you know that they,

3803
03:44:26,680 --> 03:44:27,720
when they tell you things,

3804
03:44:27,720 --> 03:44:31,200
and you start consulting and comforting them.

3805
03:44:31,200 --> 03:44:32,040
- Oh, yeah.

3806
03:44:32,040 --> 03:44:33,360
Yeah.

3807
03:44:33,360 --> 03:44:34,440
- It's so weird.

3808
03:44:34,440 --> 03:44:36,360
Like, I'm an all, I'm a comforter.

3809
03:44:36,360 --> 03:44:39,560
They call me and they want like to be reassured

3810
03:44:39,560 --> 03:44:42,800
that, that they left and it's not such a bad thing, you know?

3811
03:44:42,800 --> 03:44:44,680
Maybe they feel some sort of guilt about it

3812
03:44:44,680 --> 03:44:45,920
or like shame, I don't know.

3813
03:44:45,920 --> 03:44:49,320
And I am this person who is supposed to comfort them

3814
03:44:49,320 --> 03:44:53,280
from Harkiv that it's not that, you know, bad that they left,

3815
03:44:53,280 --> 03:44:55,760
that it's legitimate and it's, you know, valid.

3816
03:44:55,760 --> 03:44:57,880
And you're like, why the hell are you using me

3817
03:44:57,880 --> 03:45:00,080
to fucking, you know, solve that?

3818
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:05,920
young girl, like, come on. Anyway, it's just, it's a difficult conversation. I don't particularly

3819
03:45:05,920 --> 03:45:12,240
enjoy them. So yeah, within years, we speak less and less, which is, you know, sad because,

3820
03:45:12,240 --> 03:45:17,360
you know, a lot of people used to be my friends, obviously, right? But yeah, I just, yeah, I just

3821
03:45:17,360 --> 03:45:20,400
feel like there's no point in talking that much to be honest.

3822
03:45:20,400 --> 03:45:26,960
Sure. The contempt for the American side, though, I imagine is and should be like a million times

3823
03:45:26,960 --> 03:45:31,280
higher because it's like nobody's asking anybody in America to go and die. It's just money and

3824
03:45:31,280 --> 03:45:34,880
arms and things that we supply to every other fucking country. That's an ally anyway. That

3825
03:45:34,880 --> 03:45:38,240
should be a no brainer. It should be the easiest part to think of the world. And it's like a

3826
03:45:38,240 --> 03:45:43,520
guaranteed like good return. Like, I feel like, um, not to not obviously I wouldn't take a strong

3827
03:45:43,520 --> 03:45:46,560
position. But I imagine to some extent, you know, when your country's being invaded by Russia,

3828
03:45:46,560 --> 03:45:49,920
some of these people flame probably saw it as literally like a lost cause like this

3829
03:45:49,920 --> 03:45:53,600
shit is completely fucked like I'm gonna just stand here and die, especially like a family.

3830
03:45:53,600 --> 03:45:57,680
It's like cheese. That's a lot. But it's like in America, it's like, well, do I want to send

3831
03:45:57,680 --> 03:46:00,960
arms to Ukraine or do I think this is a NATO takeover mission? Cause I'm some fucking retard

3832
03:46:00,960 --> 03:46:06,880
that watches Alex Jones all day. It's like, okay, dude, you know, I honestly feel the most like

3833
03:46:06,880 --> 03:46:15,440
contempt, not even because how to say this, like I watched this, um, a lady from I think

3834
03:46:15,440 --> 03:46:22,640
bulwark or something. It's called, uh, like a blonde woman glasses. Yeah, I think that that's the one.

3835
03:46:22,640 --> 03:46:27,600
Yeah. And she was talking with, um, uh, with Ezra Miller, I think is his name?

3836
03:46:27,600 --> 03:46:31,520
Ezra Klein. Oh, it's a Klein story. I'm from mixing up Ezra's too many of them.

3837
03:46:31,520 --> 03:46:36,400
Anyway, point is this that, uh, she was talking to him and she was like talking about people.

3838
03:46:36,400 --> 03:46:40,400
She's nice. You know, I don't have anything, you know, bad to say about her. But she was like,

3839
03:46:40,400 --> 03:46:45,440
basically talking about this, like, Oh, you know, the waters, they just, you know, don't understand.

3840
03:46:45,440 --> 03:46:50,240
They don't know what what our moose is. They don't know like this. They don't know that.

3841
03:46:50,240 --> 03:46:54,400
It's not their responsibility to know. And I'm like, listen into that. And I'm like,

3842
03:46:54,400 --> 03:47:01,920
why isn't it? Like, why isn't a water in United States, the hegemony, the country that supposedly

3843
03:47:01,920 --> 03:47:06,640
determines like literally everything, like the leader of the Western world, you know,

3844
03:47:06,640 --> 03:47:12,320
and when you go vault in that country, why isn't that your responsibility to know

3845
03:47:13,440 --> 03:47:17,760
what you're voting for? Because you are determining the face of millions of people,

3846
03:47:17,760 --> 03:47:24,160
of billions of people all over the world. And when I was watching that, I had the exact same

3847
03:47:24,160 --> 03:47:29,040
take where it's like, if that's the case, and like I'm sympathetic to some extent, because I,

3848
03:47:29,040 --> 03:47:31,680
and I said, you know, I don't expect everybody to be an expert on foreign affairs and I know a lot

3849
03:47:31,680 --> 03:47:35,600
of it's complicated, but like, if it really is the case that we can expect a voter to not really

3850
03:47:35,600 --> 03:47:39,760
know much of anything, then maybe we need to take a step back and reevaluate what type of

3851
03:47:39,760 --> 03:47:43,760
government we have because it can't be because at the end of the day, we live in a democracy that,

3852
03:47:43,760 --> 03:47:47,280
regardless of what some Americans say, it is responsive to the voter. We go and vote on

3853
03:47:47,280 --> 03:47:50,800
politicians, they get into office, they do the things we want. And I was like, well, if we can't

3854
03:47:50,800 --> 03:47:55,840
be trusted to know anything about what's going on, then why should you even have the right to vote

3855
03:47:55,840 --> 03:48:00,240
on anything there? That doesn't make any sense. Yeah, it's like, you know, it's just so, it's just

3856
03:48:00,240 --> 03:48:06,720
so gross. It's so selfish. It's so like, there's no care. Like, there's no care. I don't hear anyone

3857
03:48:06,720 --> 03:48:11,040
mention anything. They're like, Oh, high prices. Well, yeah, of course, you know, the kids you

3858
03:48:11,040 --> 03:48:17,520
wallet that that but other things. Yeah, do we care? Do we care that, like, about you say, do we care

3859
03:48:17,520 --> 03:48:22,480
that billions of people are dying because of it? Do we care what we're doing to people in Ukraine?

3860
03:48:22,480 --> 03:48:27,680
Do we care what we did to the people in Iran who you hype that you will defend them if some if

3861
03:48:27,680 --> 03:48:33,840
the government attacks them? So they went to the process. They fucking got brutally slaughtered

3862
03:48:33,840 --> 03:48:40,000
in front of our eyes and now I've been hanged. And do we care like at all about anything? No,

3863
03:48:40,000 --> 03:48:44,800
and it seems like an answer is no. And look, I'm hyped that, you know, Trump ratings are

3864
03:48:44,800 --> 03:48:48,880
shit, of course. And I'm super positive about the, you know, if Democrats take the Congress,

3865
03:48:48,880 --> 03:48:53,360
then I'm, of course, happy about this. You know, it's great for everyone. But it's just like,

3866
03:48:53,360 --> 03:49:00,800
I can't be truly happy if the reason is that my gas is expensive. Yeah, one of the things that I

3867
03:49:00,800 --> 03:49:07,600
say a lot is the, yeah, that like, if gas prices weren't high, I think Trump would, I think we just

3868
03:49:07,600 --> 03:49:12,720
sail through the midterms. Yeah, it's literally just responsive to that. And there are times where,

3869
03:49:12,720 --> 03:49:16,880
like, I'm sympathetic towards somebody being kind of clueless or stupid. But there are other times

3870
03:49:16,880 --> 03:49:23,040
where it's like the moral answer is so huge on one end. That is like, at some point, your stupidity

3871
03:49:23,040 --> 03:49:28,640
becomes almost as malicious, if not more malicious than the person who's just evil. Because it's like,

3872
03:49:28,640 --> 03:49:32,560
how can you turn such a blind eye to it? Like at some point, the shame attached to that should

3873
03:49:32,560 --> 03:49:36,080
be greater than the person even doing the wrong. Because what the fuck they're doing it under your

3874
03:49:36,080 --> 03:49:41,760
watch? Yes. And the most important thing is, you know, when you bro, people like share on us a lot,

3875
03:49:41,760 --> 03:49:47,280
America's like a so aggressive when you bring up the responsibility. Like, I don't know why.

3876
03:49:47,280 --> 03:49:52,000
They're like, you know, I'm not blaming like an individual person who didn't like vote for Trump,

3877
03:49:52,000 --> 03:49:56,480
obviously, or something like that, right? But you people absolutely, yeah, maybe it's extreme

3878
03:49:56,480 --> 03:49:59,920
individualism. That's something that I used to like sort of admire.

3879
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:04,880
when I was younger about the Western world and in the United States because it's the opposite of

3880
03:50:04,880 --> 03:50:11,760
collectivism, right? And you like sort of see it and like roast into glasses, but now as I'm older

3881
03:50:11,760 --> 03:50:17,280
now and I see how the world works, right? I think maybe there's not great either. Like extreme

3882
03:50:17,280 --> 03:50:22,560
collectivism and extreme individualism probably, we can all have destructive features both.

3883
03:50:22,560 --> 03:50:27,680
It's the issue. I bring this up all the time. The issue is that these are things that exist,

3884
03:50:27,680 --> 03:50:33,200
but these things have always existed in balance with their responsibilities that come attached to

3885
03:50:33,200 --> 03:50:38,160
them. But when people bring them up now in American society, they use them as an escape from all

3886
03:50:38,160 --> 03:50:41,920
responsibility. Like when your parents, you know, I don't know what it's like in Europe,

3887
03:50:41,920 --> 03:50:44,960
but like when your parents in the United States, when they teach you to drive, you know, they have

3888
03:50:44,960 --> 03:50:48,800
that conversation with you. Well, where you have a license now, you can drive, you're able to do

3889
03:50:48,800 --> 03:50:52,960
this, but there's a big responsibility attached. You've got to be careful where you leave your car,

3890
03:50:52,960 --> 03:50:56,800
you've got to be careful not to, you know, get drunk and to keep track of things and, you know,

3891
03:50:56,800 --> 03:51:00,560
don't get into any accidents. It's a huge thing. Like you have this awesome new kind of right,

3892
03:51:00,560 --> 03:51:03,120
it's a privilege, but you have this awesome new right to be able to transport, but you have a huge

3893
03:51:03,120 --> 03:51:08,160
responsibility attached to it. Nowadays, whenever you hear Americans bring up like, oh, well, actually,

3894
03:51:08,160 --> 03:51:13,520
we have this rugged individualistic freedom. We have freedom of speech. Anybody, 99% of the time,

3895
03:51:13,520 --> 03:51:17,120
people bring up freedom of speech now in media. It's because they're talking about fucking

3896
03:51:17,120 --> 03:51:20,240
lying with impunity. That's what they're talking about. They just want the freedom to lie to you

3897
03:51:20,240 --> 03:51:24,000
with absolutely no thing attached to them whatsoever. And every time like, you know,

3898
03:51:24,000 --> 03:51:27,280
you're talking about rugged individualism, you know, you have the right to do blah, blah, blah,

3899
03:51:27,280 --> 03:51:32,000
then it's like, that's fine. But there's a responsibility that ought to be attached to that, you know,

3900
03:51:32,000 --> 03:51:36,640
like, if you don't like the way that your government is performing, that's fine. But, you know, it's

3901
03:51:36,640 --> 03:51:39,280
funny because the song gets so much shit. And he should, and he should get shit for everything

3902
03:51:39,280 --> 03:51:43,360
infinitely. But I thought that one of the more defensible statements, arguably, was that whole,

3903
03:51:43,360 --> 03:51:49,840
like, America deserve 9/11 thing. Like, your country does things in other countries, and you are

3904
03:51:49,840 --> 03:51:54,320
represented by that because you live in a democracy, okay? This is not an authoritarian dictatorship.

3905
03:51:54,320 --> 03:51:57,200
You guys are voting for the politicians that are sending the people to war that are building

3906
03:51:57,200 --> 03:52:00,880
their bases. Yeah, so how this is some response, but now I don't think any civilians be killed in

3907
03:52:00,880 --> 03:52:04,640
9/11 blah, blah, blah. But like, you have to acknowledge that. Yeah. So if you don't want to

3908
03:52:04,640 --> 03:52:07,920
vote, or you don't want to participate or whatever, because you have the freedom not to, that's fine.

3909
03:52:07,920 --> 03:52:10,720
But don't get mad when other people shit on you for or if people try to attack your

3910
03:52:10,720 --> 03:52:14,000
form of government, because they think you don't utilize it well, which I think there's a good deal

3911
03:52:14,000 --> 03:52:21,200
of truth to. Yeah, that's all in on freedom, all out on responsibility and consequences.

3912
03:52:21,200 --> 03:52:27,360
So it's just, it's just very strange. And you bring it up, like, you voted two times for Trump,

3913
03:52:27,360 --> 03:52:38,880
like, you did it, you know, you know, you personally, of course, if you didn't vote for him, obviously,

3914
03:52:38,880 --> 03:52:43,680
right? But for the people who didn't vote, for example, and the people who did vote for him,

3915
03:52:43,680 --> 03:52:49,920
you did it, you know, and like, yeah, I'm not holding you equally responsible as I would

3916
03:52:49,920 --> 03:52:56,560
Trump, right? Or like, Elon or Hexet, obviously, right? But there is a small responsibility there

3917
03:52:56,560 --> 03:53:02,320
that is yours. And it's just so, yeah, it's the same with Russian. Sometimes you bring up for

3918
03:53:02,320 --> 03:53:07,840
people, right? Of course, you don't, I don't view an average Russian person who is pro-war, right?

3919
03:53:07,840 --> 03:53:13,520
I don't view them equally responsible as I view Putin. Obviously not, like, that would be retarded.

3920
03:53:13,840 --> 03:53:20,800
But there is a small responsibility that they do have. And they have learned,

3921
03:53:20,800 --> 03:53:24,320
and they don't even have the goddamn democracy that is actually fun.

3922
03:53:24,320 --> 03:53:27,920
I view Americans as more culpable, because like, we do have a responsive government,

3923
03:53:27,920 --> 03:53:30,880
like, we could have voted totally differently, and things would have gone totally differently.

3924
03:53:30,880 --> 03:53:33,360
That was super easily within our right to do, yeah.

3925
03:53:34,640 --> 03:53:39,280
I mean, I don't want to, like, just bitch 24/7, but recently there's nothing to do but that.

3926
03:53:40,160 --> 03:53:45,200
And it's, yeah, it's just the car, people, I should be grateful, say thank you, and like,

3927
03:53:45,200 --> 03:53:50,400
fucking kill me dude. I can't say thank you through the teeth anymore. I just can't. I don't think

3928
03:53:50,400 --> 03:53:55,040
that me groveling does anything anymore. And I'm not gonna apologize. I'm not gonna apologize

3929
03:53:55,040 --> 03:54:03,120
for fucking Bandara. Go kill yourself. Yeah. You're walking for F.D. Sure. Go go fuck yourselves.

3930
03:54:03,120 --> 03:54:08,160
I'm not apologizing for a dead dude. Yeah. Is the Bandara thing brought up by Europeans?

3931
03:54:08,160 --> 03:54:11,360
Or I didn't know how much that was just an American Soviet or Russia talking about.

3932
03:54:12,160 --> 03:54:17,840
Calm the fuck down. You have Gla Pen, F.D. You have Orbans. You have far-right

3933
03:54:17,840 --> 03:54:23,920
fuckers, reform, restore. You have Trump in the United States two times, and I don't care.

3934
03:54:23,920 --> 03:54:31,520
Nobody voted for even remotely right-wing party in my country, ever. I don't care about Bandara,

3935
03:54:31,520 --> 03:54:37,200
get fucked. Yeah, anyways, just, yes, I'm not, I hate myself for that. I used to actually, like,

3936
03:54:37,200 --> 03:54:42,560
explain, you know, why that was happening to people. And that was like, you have like

3937
03:54:42,560 --> 03:54:48,400
below 1% collaborators in Ukraine during the World War II. Are we for real right now? Like,

3938
03:54:48,400 --> 03:54:55,360
and we have constituted like, like, insane percentage of the Red Army. So we are not talking about the

3939
03:54:55,360 --> 03:54:59,920
Ukrainians who liberated, quote-unquote, right, who fought against the Nazis, but we are so

3940
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:04,680
supposed to make excuses for the 1% of Nazi collaborators that thought that they will get

3941
03:55:04,680 --> 03:55:10,060
rid of Russian imperialism and will get rid of Soviet Union because of that, like I'm

3942
03:55:10,060 --> 03:55:14,040
supposed to make excuses for those guys every time I go everywhere, why?

3943
03:55:14,040 --> 03:55:15,040
No.

3944
03:55:15,040 --> 03:55:18,200
Yeah, it's just annoying.

3945
03:55:18,200 --> 03:55:22,480
And never mind the fact that there is zero sympathy if there was the people at all, like

3946
03:55:22,480 --> 03:55:28,280
do you really can't understand that like after a lot of more red terror that there were people

3947
03:55:28,280 --> 03:55:33,080
who were willing to collaborate with literal Satan himself to get rid of the Soviet Union?

3948
03:55:33,080 --> 03:55:34,080
Sure.

3949
03:55:34,080 --> 03:55:41,840
No, it's just, anyway guys, I will, you know, go and let you get back to this Bannon interview.

3950
03:55:41,840 --> 03:55:48,160
And yeah, this guy, first time I see him as this interview and I was like, my God, that's

3951
03:55:48,160 --> 03:55:50,600
an actual interview, like, for the first time.

3952
03:55:50,600 --> 03:55:54,340
Yeah, because I think mostly this guy, I think mostly does like kind of slap.

3953
03:55:54,340 --> 03:55:56,720
So it was kind of surprising, but yeah.

3954
03:55:56,720 --> 03:55:57,720
Yeah.

3955
03:55:57,720 --> 03:56:02,600
Well, I've wrote a post on Twitter, you know, thank you for treating the war seriously and

3956
03:56:02,600 --> 03:56:07,640
treating, you know, a Ukraine seriously and not like a goddamn punch and back of a joke.

3957
03:56:07,640 --> 03:56:10,880
And you know, just a lot of people seem to be very happy with this interview.

3958
03:56:10,880 --> 03:56:13,640
He even gave me a little heart, by the way.

3959
03:56:13,640 --> 03:56:14,640
Nice.

3960
03:56:14,640 --> 03:56:15,640
Yeah.

3961
03:56:15,640 --> 03:56:16,640
Anyway, yeah.

3962
03:56:16,640 --> 03:56:18,800
So yeah, I'll let you go watch the thing.

3963
03:56:18,800 --> 03:56:21,920
And yeah, sorry, recently I have been just complaining a lot.

3964
03:56:21,920 --> 03:56:23,640
I understand that.

3965
03:56:23,640 --> 03:56:27,040
But it's just, yeah, it's just difficult to deal with a bit for real.

3966
03:56:27,040 --> 03:56:28,040
Yeah.

3967
03:56:28,040 --> 03:56:29,040
I'm sympathetic.

3968
03:56:29,040 --> 03:56:30,040
Yeah.

3969
03:56:30,040 --> 03:56:31,040
Anyway, buh-bye.

3970
03:56:31,040 --> 03:56:32,040
Yeah.

3971
03:56:32,040 --> 03:56:33,040
Right.

3972
03:56:33,040 --> 03:56:46,560
Wait, if chickens like eggs, what's the point of feeding the chickens?

3973
03:56:46,560 --> 03:56:48,200
Purely Soviet man.

3974
03:56:48,200 --> 03:56:49,320
A very Soviet man.

3975
03:56:49,320 --> 03:56:51,880
He was an intelligence officer.

3976
03:56:51,880 --> 03:56:55,000
He worked in the KGB, in the KGB, in Germany and so on.

3977
03:56:55,000 --> 03:57:01,040
He said, and this is his very famous phrase, that the greatest collapse of the 20th century

3978
03:57:01,040 --> 03:57:04,400
in the world was the fall of the Soviet Union.

3979
03:57:04,400 --> 03:57:07,360
And all of that shows that Russia just wasn't enough for him.

3980
03:57:07,360 --> 03:57:12,120
And he had the ambition to go back to that, to bring back the empire, to bring back the

3981
03:57:12,120 --> 03:57:16,960
Soviet Union, because he believes that another major country is to blame for the collapse

3982
03:57:16,960 --> 03:57:17,960
of the Soviet Union.

3983
03:57:17,960 --> 03:57:18,960
Which one?

3984
03:57:18,960 --> 03:57:20,960
The United States of America.

3985
03:57:20,960 --> 03:57:22,480
Because this has always been a geopolitical war.

3986
03:57:22,480 --> 03:57:26,200
They're enemies, the Soviet Union and the United States of America.

3987
03:57:26,200 --> 03:57:28,400
They were allies during World War II.

3988
03:57:28,400 --> 03:57:31,720
And after that, you know, they're enemies, the Cold War and so on.

3989
03:57:31,720 --> 03:57:33,280
So it's very simple.

3990
03:57:33,280 --> 03:57:36,160
Putin wanted to bring back the Soviet Union.

3991
03:57:36,160 --> 03:57:38,840
And what is the Soviet Union?

3992
03:57:38,840 --> 03:57:40,400
It is above all Ukraine.

3993
03:57:40,400 --> 03:57:41,400
Ukraine.

3994
03:57:41,400 --> 03:57:42,400
It's Ukraine.

3995
03:57:42,400 --> 03:57:43,960
Ukraine is country number two.

3996
03:57:43,960 --> 03:57:45,600
Why?

3997
03:57:45,600 --> 03:57:48,200
They called the Soviet Union a forge of tap.

3998
03:57:48,200 --> 03:57:50,520
Well, emergency play this.

3999
03:57:50,520 --> 03:57:56,120
When I was asked by an academic journal to say if I were to help the power for one day

4000
03:57:56,120 --> 03:58:01,200
as president, what -- and I would have kind of absolute power to introduce a law.

4001
03:58:01,200 --> 03:58:03,000
What law that would have been?

4002
03:58:03,000 --> 03:58:07,800
My immediate answer was not as some humanist suggests that since the United States at least

4003
03:58:07,800 --> 03:58:14,640
think they are global empire, so let every adult in the world be allowed to vote.

4004
03:58:14,640 --> 03:58:16,880
My advice would be the opposite one.

4005
03:58:16,880 --> 03:58:23,720
Because everybody in the world, except U.S. citizens, be allowed to vote and elect the

4006
03:58:23,720 --> 03:58:24,920
American government.

4007
03:58:24,920 --> 03:58:27,760
I think it would have been much better for you, even.

4008
03:58:27,760 --> 03:58:33,640
Because we all are outside United States would project our desires into how you should be.

4009
03:58:33,640 --> 03:58:36,320
I think it would have been better.

4010
03:58:36,320 --> 03:58:38,720
What year was this?

4011
03:58:38,720 --> 03:58:40,680
18 years ago.

4012
03:58:40,680 --> 03:58:44,760
So he was talking -- oh, after Bush.

4013
03:58:44,760 --> 03:58:47,880
Talent.

4014
03:58:47,880 --> 03:58:52,960
In Ukraine, there were so many people who later led -- had that kind of education.

4015
03:58:52,960 --> 03:58:58,160
Because there were many scientists, many engineers, many universities, a huge intelligentsia.

4016
03:58:58,160 --> 03:59:01,520
That's what they said, that for the Soviet Union, Ukraine was the forge of talent.

4017
03:59:01,520 --> 03:59:06,640
In other words, in other words, many people who came from Ukraine, who then ran various

4018
03:59:06,640 --> 03:59:10,480
institutions, ministries in the Soviet Union and so on, meaning it's the intellectual part

4019
03:59:10,480 --> 03:59:12,120
of the Soviet Union.

4020
03:59:12,120 --> 03:59:17,720
Ukraine was always the biggest rocket manufacturing was here -- nuclear weapons, which Ukraine

4021
03:59:17,720 --> 03:59:18,720
handed over.

4022
03:59:18,720 --> 03:59:21,520
A lot of things were made in Ukraine.

4023
03:59:21,520 --> 03:59:25,120
And what's the problem for Russia?

4024
03:59:25,120 --> 03:59:30,760
If Ukraine becomes part of Europe and without the Soviet Union, Ukraine started taking gradual

4025
03:59:30,760 --> 03:59:37,240
steps in the other direction, meaning if Ukraine becomes part of Europe, then Russia will collapse.

4026
03:59:37,240 --> 03:59:38,240
It will fall apart.

4027
03:59:38,240 --> 03:59:41,680
There are so many different peoples, different religions, entirely and simply different nations,

4028
03:59:41,680 --> 03:59:43,560
into many different countries.

4029
03:59:43,560 --> 03:59:46,600
And Putin decided to piece this whole empire back together, this ambition.

4030
03:59:46,600 --> 03:59:48,480
Where do you start piecing it together?

4031
03:59:48,480 --> 03:59:52,840
He started the war in Chechnya.

4032
03:59:52,840 --> 03:59:57,440
He occupied Chechnya, a small country that is now part of Russia.

4033
03:59:57,440 --> 03:59:59,920
destroyed it completely. Everything that's happening in...

4034
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:05,460
Eastern Ukraine, it's the very same commanders, military commanders who fought in Chechnya,

4035
04:00:05,460 --> 04:00:07,280
who destroyed Chechnya completely.

4036
04:00:07,280 --> 04:00:09,160
There was nothing left, no buildings, nothing.

4037
04:00:09,160 --> 04:00:10,160
People were killed, killed.

4038
04:00:10,160 --> 04:00:12,680
A huge number of people, by the way, were killed in Chechnya.

4039
04:00:12,680 --> 04:00:14,960
And he occupied it.

4040
04:00:14,960 --> 04:00:20,400
And then he decided to bring back the empire, starting with Ukraine, with a free state.

4041
04:00:20,400 --> 04:00:22,440
One that wants to be in the European Union.

4042
04:00:22,440 --> 04:00:27,720
One that is smart, intellectual, other countries too, but here, here's what it is.

4043
04:00:27,720 --> 04:00:32,640
Well, and the start, there always has to be a pretext to start an occupation.

4044
04:00:32,640 --> 04:00:33,640
What pretext?

4045
04:00:33,640 --> 04:00:35,160
It's always a pretext.

4046
04:00:35,160 --> 04:00:37,920
The pretext is always language.

4047
04:00:37,920 --> 04:00:39,660
And he starts with Crimea.

4048
04:00:39,660 --> 04:00:41,080
He starts the occupation with Crimea.

4049
04:00:41,080 --> 04:00:42,080
Why?

4050
04:00:42,080 --> 04:00:46,240
In Crimea, there were a lot of Russian-speaking people, Russian-speaking Ukrainians.

4051
04:00:46,240 --> 04:00:51,560
But to understand this, and in Crimea, there was deportation.

4052
04:00:51,560 --> 04:00:54,880
There was more than one deportation expulsion of the Tatavs.

4053
04:00:54,880 --> 04:01:00,440
In other words, Crimea has indigenous peoples, and it's a multi-ethnic peninsula.

4054
04:01:00,440 --> 04:01:05,000
But what happened is, he started the occupation with Crimea.

4055
04:01:05,000 --> 04:01:06,800
And with Domba, with the East, why?

4056
04:01:06,800 --> 04:01:12,280
Because he divided society, unleashed this war based on language.

4057
04:01:12,280 --> 04:01:15,160
Because language is always such an issue, a painful issue.

4058
04:01:15,160 --> 04:01:18,560
And when you want to divide society, it's totally unfair.

4059
04:01:18,560 --> 04:01:20,440
It's totally despicable toward the people.

4060
04:01:20,440 --> 04:01:22,960
You start bringing up the language issue.

4061
04:01:22,960 --> 04:01:25,480
So he brought it up, said that I'm protecting Russian-speaking.

4062
04:01:25,480 --> 04:01:26,720
You have a $50 donut from Bohan?

4063
04:01:26,720 --> 04:01:27,720
Oh, yeah, I did.

4064
04:01:27,720 --> 04:01:28,720
For that 15-minute video?

4065
04:01:28,720 --> 04:01:29,720
Yeah.

4066
04:01:29,720 --> 04:01:30,720
Thank you for the feedback.

4067
04:01:30,720 --> 04:01:31,720
I got it queued up.

4068
04:01:31,720 --> 04:01:32,720
We'll see.

4069
04:01:32,720 --> 04:01:33,720
I might watch it for this.

4070
04:01:33,720 --> 04:01:34,720
King people, which wasn't true.

4071
04:01:34,720 --> 04:01:35,720
Nobody took anything from anyone.

4072
04:01:35,720 --> 04:01:37,960
Yeah, but it was just easier.

4073
04:01:37,960 --> 04:01:42,560
The east of the country borders with the Russian Federation.

4074
04:01:42,560 --> 04:01:47,800
Days before, I think it was the day before Vladimir Putin ordered troops to invade Ukraine.

4075
04:01:47,800 --> 04:01:50,960
He did a statement where he said, "Modern Ukraine was entirely and completely created

4076
04:01:50,960 --> 04:01:54,840
by Russia." More precisely, Bolshevik communist Russia.

4077
04:01:54,840 --> 04:01:57,880
This process began almost immediately after the 1917 revolution.

4078
04:01:57,880 --> 04:02:02,240
Soviet Ukraine is the result of Bolshevik policy and can rightly be called Vladimir

4079
04:02:02,240 --> 04:02:03,240
Liens-Ukraine.

4080
04:02:03,240 --> 04:02:05,600
Ukraine never had a tradition of genuine statehood.

4081
04:02:05,600 --> 04:02:09,440
So he's very much denying that Ukraine is a nation.

4082
04:02:09,440 --> 04:02:11,400
Why did he choose to invade?

4083
04:02:11,400 --> 04:02:14,680
February 24th, why did he choose then to invade?

4084
04:02:14,680 --> 04:02:18,880
If he had invaded Crimea in 2014, why was in your view that the moment where he decided

4085
04:02:18,880 --> 04:02:23,440
to cross the border and try and, by the looks of it, take control of the whole of Ukraine?

4086
04:02:23,440 --> 04:02:27,720
First of all, notice he talks about the Soviet revolution of 1917.

4087
04:02:27,720 --> 04:02:29,360
That's ridiculous to anyone.

4088
04:02:29,360 --> 04:02:33,480
Your country's history can't start in 1917.

4089
04:02:33,480 --> 04:02:35,000
In Ukraine, there are churches.

4090
04:02:35,000 --> 04:02:36,000
Everyone knows.

4091
04:02:36,000 --> 04:02:37,000
We have very beautiful churches.

4092
04:02:37,000 --> 04:02:40,880
There are a thousand years old Ukrainian churches, painted by Ukrainians, total master

4093
04:02:40,880 --> 04:02:43,120
professionals, a thousand years old.

4094
04:02:43,120 --> 04:02:50,600
Ukraine is the heir to Kivanruz, a great state that was very well known in Europe, on the

4095
04:02:50,600 --> 04:02:55,240
European continent, at least, with an advanced civilization.

4096
04:02:55,240 --> 04:02:59,440
It really, with its own art, with its own traditions and so on.

4097
04:02:59,440 --> 04:03:01,120
Russia wasn't even close to existing.

4098
04:03:01,120 --> 04:03:03,360
Russia came after Ukraine, already existing.

4099
04:03:03,360 --> 04:03:05,680
But he cuts all that out, starts with the revolution.

4100
04:03:05,680 --> 04:03:08,520
Why from the October revolution of 1917?

4101
04:03:08,520 --> 04:03:11,680
Because he's talking about the history of the Soviet Union.

4102
04:03:11,680 --> 04:03:14,360
Not about the history of Russia and not about the history of Ukraine.

4103
04:03:14,360 --> 04:03:15,360
The Soviet Union.

4104
04:03:15,360 --> 04:03:16,360
Why?

4105
04:03:16,360 --> 04:03:20,560
Because he's signaling to people who are in Russia, who, honestly, the kids, they get

4106
04:03:20,560 --> 04:03:23,960
information in schools and they take it, they don't go any deeper.

4107
04:03:23,960 --> 04:03:28,400
He's signaling to them that their life is the Soviet Union and that's where we're heading

4108
04:03:28,400 --> 04:03:29,400
back to.

4109
04:03:29,400 --> 04:03:30,400
That's what he's doing.

4110
04:03:30,400 --> 04:03:32,800
He started the full-scale war.

4111
04:03:32,800 --> 04:03:35,160
The war started 24th, 24th.

4112
04:03:35,160 --> 04:03:37,960
Caesar, thank you for giving five subs.

4113
04:03:37,960 --> 04:03:44,920
Of February 24th, missile strikes were launched immediately from the territory.

4114
04:03:44,920 --> 04:03:50,560
It was flying from every side troops were also entering from the territory of Belarus.

4115
04:03:50,560 --> 04:03:53,960
From here, because it's the closest route to the capital.

4116
04:03:53,960 --> 04:04:01,640
They were advancing on Kyiv and also came from all directions.

4117
04:04:01,640 --> 04:04:05,840
The main goal was to seize the capital of Ukraine.

4118
04:04:05,840 --> 04:04:07,440
That was their main goal.

4119
04:04:07,440 --> 04:04:12,120
Naturally, they were counting on the tough guys who were both Russian and the separatists

4120
04:04:12,120 --> 04:04:16,280
already in the occupied territory of Dombas.

4121
04:04:16,280 --> 04:04:18,640
Why in February 2022?

4122
04:04:18,640 --> 04:04:19,640
Why not later?

4123
04:04:19,640 --> 04:04:20,640
Why not sooner?

4124
04:04:20,640 --> 04:04:21,640
Why was that the moment?

4125
04:04:21,640 --> 04:04:22,640
What had happened?

4126
04:04:22,640 --> 04:04:27,400
Because part of the reason I asked this question is because President Donald Trump often blames

4127
04:04:27,400 --> 04:04:32,840
Joe Biden for being weak and that giving Vladimir Putin an opportunity to invade because he

4128
04:04:32,840 --> 04:04:34,760
didn't respect President Biden.

4129
04:04:34,760 --> 04:04:35,760
That's what's claimed.

4130
04:04:35,760 --> 04:04:36,920
Is there truth in that?

4131
04:04:36,920 --> 04:04:37,920
I'll explain.

4132
04:04:37,920 --> 04:04:41,760
I think that it was a little bit earlier.

4133
04:04:41,760 --> 04:04:47,440
In '21, there was a summit, I don't remember when anymore, I don't remember.

4134
04:04:47,440 --> 04:04:49,080
There was a Biden-Putin summit.

4135
04:04:49,080 --> 04:04:50,080
Remember that famous summit?

4136
04:04:50,080 --> 04:04:51,280
We didn't have all the details.

4137
04:04:51,280 --> 04:04:56,480
They came out and started talking about something publicly and so on.

4138
04:04:56,480 --> 04:05:00,040
One rumor started that they discussed the issue of a pilot.

4139
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:06,120
possible escalation against Ukraine, and we kept bringing up this issue over the next

4140
04:05:06,120 --> 04:05:07,120
few months.

4141
04:05:07,120 --> 04:05:09,280
We kept bringing it up with the Americans.

4142
04:05:09,280 --> 04:05:10,840
And this could really happen.

4143
04:05:10,840 --> 04:05:12,560
And they were saying, well, it could happen.

4144
04:05:12,560 --> 04:05:15,880
We asked them, then please give us what we need to defend ourselves if there are such

4145
04:05:15,880 --> 04:05:19,080
risks that some kind of occupation could start.

4146
04:05:19,080 --> 04:05:23,640
We couldn't imagine, though, that full-scale invasion would start because we saw what

4147
04:05:23,640 --> 04:05:28,240
Russian occupation looked like with Crimea and with Donetsk and Wuhanov.

4148
04:05:28,240 --> 04:05:30,880
Well, the full-scale invasion was going to happen.

4149
04:05:30,880 --> 04:05:34,760
And I thought Ukraine kind of, like, screwed it over it a little bit.

4150
04:05:34,760 --> 04:05:36,800
God damn it.

4151
04:05:36,800 --> 04:05:38,880
That's why I thought Putin put it out-- or sorry, not Putin.

4152
04:05:38,880 --> 04:05:41,640
That's why I thought Biden, like, threw it out on national television.

4153
04:05:41,640 --> 04:05:44,680
I think they threw it on a big world television to let everybody kind of know.

4154
04:05:44,680 --> 04:05:46,960
But I don't know if I would say they weren't necessarily taking it seriously.

4155
04:05:46,960 --> 04:05:47,960
I'm just not sure if they knew.

4156
04:05:47,960 --> 04:05:50,600
I guess what to do or how to respond to it.

4157
04:05:50,600 --> 04:05:51,600
Okay.

4158
04:05:51,600 --> 04:05:52,600
Blasts.

4159
04:05:52,600 --> 04:05:53,600
So you imagined it differently.

4160
04:05:53,600 --> 04:05:56,320
You couldn't imagine that overnight missiles would just start flying.

4161
04:05:56,320 --> 04:05:57,640
Nobody had ever seen anything like that.

4162
04:05:57,640 --> 04:05:58,780
Why were kids screaming?

4163
04:05:58,780 --> 04:05:59,960
Why were people fleeing?

4164
04:05:59,960 --> 04:06:01,400
Why was there absolute chaos?

4165
04:06:01,400 --> 04:06:06,000
Those were absolutely horrifying moments because missiles are literally flying at you.

4166
04:06:06,000 --> 04:06:09,400
Nowadays, a thousand drones fly in and we shoot them down.

4167
04:06:09,400 --> 04:06:10,400
We fight.

4168
04:06:10,400 --> 04:06:13,960
But back then, right around four in the morning, missiles were raining down on your head.

4169
04:06:13,960 --> 04:06:15,040
Everyone was in shock.

4170
04:06:15,040 --> 04:06:20,840
So he did it in February because that's what he wanted to do.

4171
04:06:20,840 --> 04:06:22,800
That was his plan.

4172
04:06:22,800 --> 04:06:25,720
I think he told Biden a whole lot of things.

4173
04:06:25,720 --> 04:06:33,760
I remember, unfortunately, President Biden stepped in later in the first minutes or days

4174
04:06:33,760 --> 04:06:34,760
of the war.

4175
04:06:34,760 --> 04:06:38,840
I had a call with him back then when he offered to evacuate me.

4176
04:06:38,840 --> 04:06:40,440
Back then, a lot of people offered me help.

4177
04:06:40,440 --> 04:06:41,920
I said, "Give us weapons.

4178
04:06:41,920 --> 04:06:44,360
Help us defend the country."

4179
04:06:44,360 --> 04:06:49,160
And I think they realized that it's impossible to occupy us.

4180
04:06:49,160 --> 04:06:51,120
That's what I think happened.

4181
04:06:51,120 --> 04:06:56,640
I think that the United States back then, I don't know, maybe they did consider that

4182
04:06:56,640 --> 04:07:00,520
it could turn out that there'd be a conflict and we might be occupied, but nobody counted

4183
04:07:00,520 --> 04:07:02,680
on us holding out for sure.

4184
04:07:02,680 --> 04:07:06,480
I remember that I think a day before, God, that was so long ago.

4185
04:07:06,480 --> 04:07:10,880
I've forgotten so much already, a day before the invasion, the Europeans who knew less

4186
04:07:10,880 --> 04:07:16,560
than the Americans, they were talking with Putin and Putin promised them there wouldn't

4187
04:07:16,560 --> 04:07:17,560
be an invasion.

4188
04:07:17,560 --> 04:07:18,920
Oh, he lied to all of them back then.

4189
04:07:18,920 --> 04:07:21,000
Yes, he knew there would be an invasion.

4190
04:07:21,000 --> 04:07:22,000
He knew everything.

4191
04:07:22,000 --> 04:07:23,000
He lied.

4192
04:07:23,000 --> 04:07:24,960
When did you first get a phone call telling you that...

4193
04:07:24,960 --> 04:07:26,440
Another meg, thank you for the five more.

4194
04:07:26,440 --> 04:07:28,640
Russia was planning to invade Ukraine.

4195
04:07:28,640 --> 04:07:32,080
How many days before it happened, did you get that call and who was the call from?

4196
04:07:32,080 --> 04:07:37,960
It was never direct like Russia plans an invasion on such and such day and there will

4197
04:07:37,960 --> 04:07:39,600
be a full-scale war like this and that.

4198
04:07:39,600 --> 04:07:40,600
It was never like that.

4199
04:07:40,600 --> 04:07:47,640
These were very cautious diplomatic signals and so on and this, how can I put it?

4200
04:07:47,640 --> 04:07:49,320
We kept bringing up this issue.

4201
04:07:49,320 --> 04:07:50,320
Why?

4202
04:07:50,320 --> 04:07:52,280
Because people were worried and people were worried.

4203
04:07:52,280 --> 04:07:58,080
That affected the economy and affected the currency and the stability of the national currency

4204
04:07:58,080 --> 04:08:00,840
started to drop which affected the country's economy.

4205
04:08:00,840 --> 04:08:03,480
And we asked the Americans, "Give us a clear signal.

4206
04:08:03,480 --> 04:08:09,080
If you believe this is war, then give us weapons urgently, everything you can give."

4207
04:08:09,080 --> 04:08:14,560
Because, well, that's what our dialogue was like, yeah, well, but nobody would give anything.

4208
04:08:14,560 --> 04:08:18,400
And I asked in post-sanctions, that's something everybody in Europe knew about.

4209
04:08:18,400 --> 04:08:19,400
They knew.

4210
04:08:19,400 --> 04:08:24,800
I asked President Biden in post-sanctions on Russia now preemptively.

4211
04:08:24,800 --> 04:08:28,160
If you know there could be an invasion in post-sanctions, we other...

4212
04:08:28,160 --> 04:08:31,400
And then he won't go in if he's really decided to.

4213
04:08:31,400 --> 04:08:35,360
But President Biden said, "We'll impose sanctions if there's an invasion.

4214
04:08:35,360 --> 04:08:38,200
Post-factum, not preemptive sanctions, but post-factum."

4215
04:08:38,200 --> 04:08:46,520
I'm not got to judge a president, but I believe that was a mistake in my view.

4216
04:08:46,520 --> 04:08:51,360
Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, but in October 2021, the Director of National

4217
04:08:51,360 --> 04:08:55,600
Intelligence and CIA Director briefed US leadership and top NATO allies that Putin was making

4218
04:08:55,600 --> 04:08:58,920
concrete plans for a multi-front invasion.

4219
04:08:58,920 --> 04:09:03,760
And European media published satellite imagery showing 100,000 Russian troops tanks and field

4220
04:09:03,760 --> 04:09:08,520
hospitals that had started to emerge and CIA Director flew to Moscow to warn Putin directly

4221
04:09:08,520 --> 04:09:10,640
against invading in November 2021.

4222
04:09:10,640 --> 04:09:14,600
Then in December 2021, the US government took the rest up of declassifying intelligent

4223
04:09:14,600 --> 04:09:20,080
maps and troop estimates predicting an invasion force of up to 175,000 troops to prevent Russia

4224
04:09:20,080 --> 04:09:22,640
from using a false flag operation as a pretext.

4225
04:09:22,640 --> 04:09:26,880
And then in late January early February 2021, the US National Security Advisor publicly warned

4226
04:09:26,880 --> 04:09:30,640
that an invasion could begin at any time urging foreign citizens to evacuate Ukraine.

4227
04:09:30,640 --> 04:09:35,800
And then on February 24th, 2022, Russia launched the full-scale invasion.

4228
04:09:35,800 --> 04:09:41,120
And they launched the invasion from multiple sides, really with the focus on Kiev.

4229
04:09:41,120 --> 04:09:46,360
Can you remember where you were when you realized that they crossed multiple borders of Ukraine

4230
04:09:46,360 --> 04:09:48,400
at the same time?

4231
04:09:48,400 --> 04:09:51,640
If I was a fly on the wall in whatever room you were in, wherever you were, what would

4232
04:09:51,640 --> 04:09:52,640
I have seen?

4233
04:09:52,640 --> 04:09:53,640
Where were you?

4234
04:09:53,640 --> 04:09:55,240
How did you find out?

4235
04:09:55,240 --> 04:09:59,980
First of all, I'd like you to know that in Belarus the Russians were

4236
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:06,500
conducting drills training these were annual drills that's very important because when we talk to our partners and they

4237
04:10:06,840 --> 04:10:10,740
Briefed like you're saying folks from NATO and so on nobody fully believed it

4238
04:10:10,740 --> 04:10:14,080
Why because everybody said they were just saber-rattling

4239
04:10:15,040 --> 04:10:21,640
Putin was intentionally trying to scare everyone. He wouldn't launch an invasion what I just told you European leaders called him

4240
04:10:21,640 --> 04:10:29,060
He said I won't invade he had exercises in Belarus military exercises on top of that our defense minister was invited there

4241
04:10:29,360 --> 04:10:31,360
To these exercises and he was there

4242
04:10:31,960 --> 04:10:33,880
Just so you understand

4243
04:10:33,880 --> 04:10:40,780
imagine that he went there came back and so on and then the full-scale invasion started from multiple directions and

4244
04:10:41,480 --> 04:10:44,880
what the Europeans said echoing my messages was

4245
04:10:45,200 --> 04:10:50,320
Impose sanctions and give weapons to the Ukrainians if you know an invasion is coming the Americans didn't do that

4246
04:10:50,320 --> 04:10:55,800
They didn't give them and didn't impose sanctions and that's why everyone had doubts everyone thought the Russians were just bluffing

4247
04:10:55,800 --> 04:11:03,160
Why because he wanted to push us into the means agreements and so on so that we'd give them don't boss and recognize don't boss as

4248
04:11:03,300 --> 04:11:08,560
Not Ukraine and also recognize Crimea is not Ukraine. That's what in other words. That was the format of pressure

4249
04:11:09,000 --> 04:11:11,400
But what happened happened? What did you believe? I?

4250
04:11:12,300 --> 04:11:17,320
Didn't think there would be a full-scale invasion and so on so that we give them don't bus and recognize as

4251
04:11:17,640 --> 04:11:21,640
Not Ukraine and also recognize Crimea is not Ukraine. That's what in other words

4252
04:11:21,640 --> 04:11:25,980
That was the format of pressure, but what happened happened? I didn't think there would be a full-scale invasion

4253
04:11:25,980 --> 04:11:31,800
I didn't think so because I believe that if people know there's gonna be a full-scale invasion partners and so on and they don't take preemptive steps

4254
04:11:32,320 --> 04:11:34,780
Don't sit him down at the table. Don't tell him. Are you out of your mind?

4255
04:11:35,240 --> 04:11:39,600
Have you lost your mind to wage war in the 20th century to kill people you're completely unhinged

4256
04:11:40,120 --> 04:11:42,800
but even son a full-scale invasion happened and

4257
04:11:43,880 --> 04:11:46,680
Just and they approached Keve very quickly

4258
04:11:47,480 --> 04:11:49,480
like really quickly I

4259
04:11:49,600 --> 04:11:57,120
mean it was just it was well an avalanche and I was I was with my family and

4260
04:11:58,200 --> 04:12:01,280
I was with my family. I got a call from the office

4261
04:12:01,840 --> 04:12:04,440
Saying that before that during the night

4262
04:12:04,920 --> 04:12:10,600
Missiles were flying missiles. I got ready told my wife told the kids

4263
04:12:11,200 --> 04:12:15,120
Told them the war has started and I went to the office. I arrived at the office

4264
04:12:15,120 --> 04:12:17,760
I was the first or second the second person

4265
04:12:17,760 --> 04:12:21,040
I think in the office and I called everyone in and we started

4266
04:12:23,160 --> 04:12:28,160
Started the workday such a terrible workday the first one during the full-scale war

4267
04:12:29,040 --> 04:12:31,040
What did your wife say?

4268
04:12:32,040 --> 04:12:34,040
I don't remember

4269
04:12:34,160 --> 04:12:40,120
It was very fast everything happened so fast. I told my wife wake up quickly the war has started. I love you

4270
04:12:40,120 --> 04:12:42,120
I'll call you and ran out

4271
04:12:43,360 --> 04:12:45,360
And life has not been the same since

4272
04:12:46,440 --> 04:12:52,080
Absolutely, it's just a different life. Everything is different. Everything's different a hundred percent

4273
04:12:54,640 --> 04:13:00,920
When I was doing my research on that day when Russia invaded what I couldn't believe is just the the volume of troops

4274
04:13:01,040 --> 04:13:05,680
That rolled across the border. I read one thing that said there was 65 kilometers of

4275
04:13:06,480 --> 04:13:10,760
Armored vehicles and troops on one particular road as they tried to take Keve

4276
04:13:11,160 --> 04:13:12,280
I want to talk about that

4277
04:13:12,280 --> 04:13:16,360
But I just I really want to get an answer to this sort of outstanding question in my head which is where Trump has repeatedly said

4278
04:13:16,360 --> 04:13:19,080
Probably a hundred times now that this never would have begun

4279
04:13:19,080 --> 04:13:22,680
It never would have happened if he was president. Do you believe that I?

4280
04:13:28,920 --> 04:13:32,560
Think it's possible well fuck. I don't know if he gives a fuck about Trump at this point

4281
04:13:32,800 --> 04:13:35,400
The answer is like it's possible the answer that is yes

4282
04:13:35,400 --> 04:13:37,720
But it has nothing to do with the intentionality of Trump

4283
04:13:37,720 --> 04:13:41,160
It could have been that Putin thought he could have gotten what he wanted in other ways. It could be that

4284
04:13:42,680 --> 04:13:49,560
I don't know. There's like a million different it's hard to evaluate it because it's there's not like a consistent theory of mind when it comes to politics for Trump

4285
04:13:49,560 --> 04:13:51,560
It really is just like a

4286
04:13:51,560 --> 04:13:56,680
Psychological whim like what is his narcissistic leanings at this particular point in time? It's like impossible to say

4287
04:13:57,240 --> 04:14:02,400
Hello, just one thing. I think he was covering his ass a little bit there like the lens came in

4288
04:14:02,840 --> 04:14:09,480
not like entirely, but there's a lot of basically there was a lot of accusations at that

4289
04:14:10,680 --> 04:14:13,720
Two towards him in 22 and 23

4290
04:14:14,120 --> 04:14:18,360
Because a lot of people were super mad that he didn't take it quote on quote

4291
04:14:18,680 --> 04:14:24,520
Seriously, and that he made a public statement that the war is not happening. Oh, yeah back then

4292
04:14:24,760 --> 04:14:30,360
Yeah, and so there was a lot a lot of shit throwing at him because of that and

4293
04:14:31,000 --> 04:14:35,880
Basically what critics were saying at the time was that the United States gave us

4294
04:14:36,520 --> 04:14:41,240
You know intelligence that said that they will attack and he said that you know, it was

4295
04:14:41,960 --> 04:14:48,760
They were just being dramatic basically. So I think he was kind of trying to cover his ass a little bit

4296
04:14:48,840 --> 04:14:51,960
I mean he honestly admitted that he didn't think it will happen

4297
04:14:52,040 --> 04:14:55,080
So he didn't lie there that you know at least in that regard

4298
04:14:55,960 --> 04:14:59,880
And he tried to make it clear that he thought that if

4299
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:04,280
the war happened, if the war was about to actually happen, and the Russia was actually

4300
04:15:04,280 --> 04:15:09,520
going to invade, then Americans would have treated it seriously, and like gave us like,

4301
04:15:09,520 --> 04:15:14,200
you know, weapons and imposed sanctions and things like that. But I personally think it's

4302
04:15:14,200 --> 04:15:20,320
kind of like a way to sort of kind of slightly move blame towards United States here in my

4303
04:15:20,320 --> 04:15:26,080
opinion, you know, but you know, it's just my opinion though. So keep that in mind. But

4304
04:15:26,080 --> 04:15:31,200
yeah, I think I think he was just wrong to be honest. I think he was maybe hoping legitimately

4305
04:15:31,200 --> 04:15:36,360
that there was some way to solve this diplomatically, because he was like Colin Macron and other

4306
04:15:36,360 --> 04:15:41,120
people saying like, fucking talk to Putin, you know, make it clear that it's an absolute

4307
04:15:41,120 --> 04:15:45,880
insanity. Like, I don't want my maybe he didn't want the entire country to fucking panic and

4308
04:15:45,880 --> 04:15:50,960
freak the fuck out. And he was like trying to keep us, you know, more sane or something.

4309
04:15:50,960 --> 04:15:54,520
There are many reasons that aren't legitimately like, you know, evil, skeevy, or like, you

4310
04:15:54,520 --> 04:15:59,440
know, he was just, yeah, I don't know, many people blame him for being like this, you

4311
04:15:59,440 --> 04:16:03,600
know, he was malicious in that regard. He wanted to sabotage us. I personally don't think so

4312
04:16:03,600 --> 04:16:07,880
at all. But I also think there is a little bit of like, you know, United States didn't

4313
04:16:07,880 --> 04:16:13,520
say it was 100%. So, you know, if they gave us like weapons and imposed sanctions, then

4314
04:16:13,520 --> 04:16:17,320
we would have been sure that this would happen. But I think it's like a little bit of, you

4315
04:16:17,320 --> 04:16:21,040
know, sure, everything is pretty probabilistic here in terms of what are the chances of

4316
04:16:21,040 --> 04:16:26,000
everything actually happening. Sure. But I will say though, it was chaotic as fucking in his

4317
04:16:26,000 --> 04:16:31,600
situation. I kind of, you know, understand that probably believing that it was actually

4318
04:16:31,600 --> 04:16:36,760
will happen was, you know, they have been saber rattling before. They have been threats

4319
04:16:36,760 --> 04:16:42,760
before. They have, you know, they constantly provoked us and threatened us and blackmailed

4320
04:16:42,760 --> 04:16:47,160
us. So, you know, I don't know, honestly, like maybe he's what he said here is like completely

4321
04:16:47,160 --> 04:16:52,400
truthful. And he just didn't believe it will actually happen. But maybe, you know, he just

4322
04:16:52,400 --> 04:16:57,400
failed there to rid the situation. And now he's trying to, you know, sort of fend off

4323
04:16:57,400 --> 04:17:03,360
that big critique that was thrown his way. Either way, he didn't run, he didn't escape,

4324
04:17:03,360 --> 04:17:08,600
he didn't sabotage us. And he since then was, you know, doing what he needs to do. So there's

4325
04:17:08,600 --> 04:17:15,480
that. Sure. Yeah, anyway. Yeah. But a bit of a ask ever in my opinion. Bye bye.

4326
04:17:17,160 --> 04:17:26,640
That nobody knows the answer, honestly. The fact remains that this happened during Biden's

4327
04:17:26,640 --> 04:17:35,720
presidency. That's a fact. It's a fact that this didn't happen under Trump effect. But

4328
04:17:35,720 --> 04:17:44,280
it's also a fact that Putin chose the moment for a full occupation. That's also a fact.

4329
04:17:44,280 --> 04:17:51,520
I think Trump had a special relationship with Putin and still does. And maybe it really is

4330
04:17:51,520 --> 04:17:57,600
possible that Trump being on friendly terms with Putin could have prevented a full scale

4331
04:17:57,600 --> 04:18:04,520
invasion. But one thing you have to know for sure, neither I nor Trump, we were not eternal

4332
04:18:04,520 --> 04:18:09,840
in these presidential seats. And so either way, Trump's presidency would have ended and

4333
04:18:09,840 --> 04:18:15,040
Putin still wouldn't have been able to change his main goal, the occupation of Ukraine.

4334
04:18:15,040 --> 04:18:22,120
So I think that honestly, it doesn't matter who the president is as long as Putin is there.

4335
04:18:22,120 --> 04:18:26,760
On February the 24th, when Russia invaded Ukraine, it is reported that they sent, there's different

4336
04:18:26,760 --> 04:18:30,760
numbers, but some of the numbers go up to 200,000 troops that were assembled across the

4337
04:18:30,760 --> 04:18:36,440
Ukrainian border. It varies between 150,000, 190,000. And when I look at the total active

4338
04:18:36,440 --> 04:18:40,160
number of troops in Ukraine at the time, it's almost the same number. So it's almost as

4339
04:18:40,160 --> 04:18:45,960
if Russia deployed the full size of the number of active duty personnel you had into Ukraine

4340
04:18:45,960 --> 04:18:50,560
to attack Ukraine and specifically to take Kiev. Can you just explain to me in simple

4341
04:18:50,560 --> 04:18:54,080
terms how they staged that attack? You said that some troops came in from Belarus. There

4342
04:18:54,080 --> 04:19:01,600
was support that came in trying to take Kiev as well. I think they knew that our main forces,

4343
04:19:01,600 --> 04:19:08,320
our main forces were in the east of our country, Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Yes, Donetsk

4344
04:19:08,320 --> 04:19:14,760
and Luhansk region. Why were Donetsk and Luhansk regions? Where our main units were? Look,

4345
04:19:14,760 --> 04:19:20,520
there is Kharki, which was also their target. Look, all this whole part, Mariupo, which

4346
04:19:20,520 --> 04:19:24,840
was very important to them. Donetsk, which was already occupied and so on. So what was

4347
04:19:24,840 --> 04:19:30,240
the bottom line? Because when part of it was occupied, when Donetsk was occupied, look,

4348
04:19:30,240 --> 04:19:34,800
Makiukayinaki, all of that was after the occupational crime, look, all of this was

4349
04:19:34,800 --> 04:19:39,800
occupied, this entire part. The very strong troops were stationed here, strong both in

4350
04:19:39,800 --> 04:19:45,120
terms of numbers and strength and the separatists and they were fighting against us,

4351
04:19:45,120 --> 04:19:48,640
meaning you have to understand. These are people who considered Donetsk their homeland.

4352
04:19:48,640 --> 04:19:51,840
These aren't just Russians, these are separatists. So they were both separatists and

4353
04:19:51,840 --> 04:19:55,800
Russians here. So this was their strongest grouping and our strongest grouping was

4354
04:19:55,800 --> 04:19:59,960
station right here and that was and that was constant.

4355
04:20:00,000 --> 04:20:04,480
they were here, they were stationed right here. Why were they stationed here? Because they were

4356
04:20:04,480 --> 04:20:10,880
holding back the strongest Russian grouping, so it wouldn't break through. And nobody expected

4357
04:20:10,880 --> 04:20:17,200
that they would go through Belarus and advance on the capital. And that's why we didn't have any

4358
04:20:17,200 --> 04:20:21,680
strong troops here. That is an absolute fact. We simply didn't have that kind of army. The entire

4359
04:20:21,680 --> 04:20:26,800
Ukrainian army was, well, excuse me, it was later I changed the law to make it 200,000 plus up to

4360
04:20:26,800 --> 04:20:31,680
250. But before that, it was an even smaller force. And just imagine 200,000 people are coming at you.

4361
04:20:32,240 --> 04:20:36,640
Well, it's simply impossible to defend. You need an army like the one we have today, 800,000,

4362
04:20:36,640 --> 04:20:43,360
which was actually the main problem for the Russian troops. When they couldn't take our capital,

4363
04:20:44,960 --> 04:20:54,560
we held out and destroyed them. They didn't have enough troops to hold the occupied territories here.

4364
04:20:55,760 --> 04:21:00,880
And they had to pull back. We were hitting them and they were pulling back. And that's how we fully

4365
04:21:00,880 --> 04:21:06,080
took back Kiev region, Chernihiv region, and that whole front. We completely restored it and pushed

4366
04:21:06,080 --> 04:21:11,120
them out entirely. So it's completely obvious. They just didn't have enough troops. Just like at

4367
04:21:11,120 --> 04:21:15,520
first when they pushed in, we didn't have a strong army here. We didn't have enough troops.

4368
04:21:16,080 --> 04:21:20,880
And later the same happened to them. Naturally, when the full-scale invasion started, there was

4369
04:21:20,880 --> 04:21:26,160
mobilization. And people, there were lines. People showed up as volunteers. And our army grew from

4370
04:21:26,160 --> 04:21:32,960
200,000 to an army of 800,000. While the Russian presence was around, by the way, the Russian presence

4371
04:21:32,960 --> 04:21:40,080
was around 700, probably at that moment, around 700,000 across all directions on Ukrainian territory.

4372
04:21:40,960 --> 04:21:43,360
Meaning this was a massive onslaught coming in, a massive onslaught.

4373
04:21:44,080 --> 04:21:50,880
There's in late February satellite imagery captured a massive 64 kilometer, which is 40-mile-long Russian

4374
04:21:50,880 --> 04:21:55,600
military convoy. Yeah, it was terrifying footage. Yeah, all of that. Backed up along a single highway

4375
04:21:55,600 --> 04:22:00,800
leading to Kiev. And when you see 64 kilometers of military vehicles and armored vehicles heading

4376
04:22:00,800 --> 04:22:06,880
to one city, and then you hear that they failed to take that city, the question like, how?

4377
04:22:08,640 --> 04:22:12,000
They captured that, by the way, the Chernobyl nuclear plant where the disaster happened.

4378
04:22:12,000 --> 04:22:16,960
All of that was occupied. That whole route was occupied. They occupied it and blockaded Kiev.

4379
04:22:16,960 --> 04:22:23,200
How did we... People stepped up. People went to mobilize. Yes, a huge number. On the first day,

4380
04:22:23,200 --> 04:22:32,160
we left the country headed toward Western Ukraine, the western part of our country. They left,

4381
04:22:32,160 --> 04:22:40,640
but a lot of people stayed mobilized. And we brought up our troops and started fighting them.

4382
04:22:41,280 --> 04:22:49,040
Day after day, we pushed back harder. They cut off our food, cut off our water, cut everything

4383
04:22:49,040 --> 04:22:57,680
off completely. So that was their mission. They expected people to run and me. And certain people

4384
04:22:57,680 --> 04:23:03,600
came to me and they said, Kiev is cut off and Kiev is surrounded. And the Russians are suggesting

4385
04:23:03,600 --> 04:23:12,320
you hand over your powers. And that's it. Meaning, Kiev must surrender. Naturally, I told those people

4386
04:23:12,320 --> 04:23:20,400
where to go. Let's put it that way out of my office. And then, as you know, leaders were calling

4387
04:23:20,400 --> 04:23:26,240
offering to evacuate before all the roads were blocked to get out of Kiev. Who called you and

4388
04:23:26,240 --> 04:23:30,640
asked you if you wanted to be evacuated? And did they make you an offer to evacuate you themselves?

4389
04:23:30,640 --> 04:23:34,320
Joe Biden asked you if you wanted to be evacuated. He was the first, the first.

4390
04:23:34,320 --> 04:23:38,240
What did he say? We are ready to help you evacuate because,

4391
04:23:39,680 --> 04:23:44,960
naturally, well, the invasion Kiev is surrounded and we are ready to help you, you and your family.

4392
04:23:46,000 --> 04:23:50,960
Likewise, many Europeans offered me that later, several Europeans and people

4393
04:23:52,240 --> 04:23:59,840
around me as well. Let's say people around me from our political circle also suggested doing all that.

4394
04:24:00,640 --> 04:24:06,640
What did you say to Biden? I need ammunition, not the ride.

4395
04:24:08,800 --> 04:24:10,240
Did you tell your wife and your family to leave?

4396
04:24:15,600 --> 04:24:19,280
What would the US airlifting Zelensky out of Ukraine while Kiev is under siege look like?

4397
04:24:19,280 --> 04:24:21,200
It would just be normal airlift.

4398
04:24:21,200 --> 04:24:24,160
Normal up 100%. Yeah, Russia would not want to fuck with that.

4399
04:24:24,160 --> 04:24:28,160
Biden probably called him a retard. You realize you're going to fucking die, dude.

4400
04:24:29,440 --> 04:24:31,920
He probably did. Have you seen anything like Benjamin Netanyahu?

4401
04:24:31,920 --> 04:24:33,760
Because Netanyahu is a retard. That's different.

4402
04:24:38,240 --> 04:24:41,440
Nobody could go anywhere because that was a choice. That was

4403
04:24:42,880 --> 04:24:48,320
the families and there's naturally they weren't in the office with me.

4404
04:24:48,320 --> 04:24:52,960
Or the security detail took them and they went to another location.

4405
04:24:53,840 --> 04:24:59,920
Well, because it was clear that there was just shooting right around the president's

4406
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:04,880
office and it was obvious how this could all end. And they asked me to go down to the bunker.

4407
04:25:04,880 --> 04:25:12,240
Down there I had, it was very deep underground built right inside my office. And in that bunker,

4408
04:25:12,240 --> 04:25:18,800
I started working. That's where Biden called me. All around my office was secured by snipers,

4409
04:25:18,800 --> 04:25:26,560
various guys of ours, special services. And I was in the bunker. Down there, I had communications,

4410
04:25:26,560 --> 04:25:31,200
and I spoke with all the leaders from there. That's where I first did a video call with the Europeans

4411
04:25:31,200 --> 04:25:37,200
pleading with them to unite, help Ukraine, not abandon us. And it worked. And I continued

4412
04:25:37,920 --> 04:25:42,880
being there, going out into the street, talking to the people, showing myself, because there were

4413
04:25:42,880 --> 04:25:48,000
so many, in those first few days there were so, so many narratives. Russia was putting out a lot

4414
04:25:48,000 --> 04:25:53,840
of information claiming I had fled. So basically their whole idea was for people to run and people

4415
04:25:53,840 --> 04:25:58,000
would run if they saw that their leader abandoned them. Well, I mean, excuse me, if the leader

4416
04:25:58,000 --> 04:26:03,840
abandoned the capital, well, then everyone has to survive on their own. So that was the whole story.

4417
04:26:03,840 --> 04:26:08,560
They wanted me to run. And for them, for them, that was, yeah, obviously, that was their goal.

4418
04:26:09,600 --> 04:26:16,000
I couldn't abandon Kiv, the office, the people. It's just impossible. That would be betrayal. Betrayal,

4419
04:26:16,720 --> 04:26:23,920
my human decency and the constitution of Ukraine. So I couldn't do that. Well, and that's it. That's

4420
04:26:23,920 --> 04:26:28,080
it. And then, and they put the Russians constantly pushed information that I wasn't there, then that

4421
04:26:28,080 --> 04:26:33,440
I was spotted at the border, then that I was seen somewhere else, then in other countries. And all

4422
04:26:33,440 --> 04:26:38,720
of that forced me to go out into the street all the time, two, three times a day I made a decision

4423
04:26:38,720 --> 04:26:42,800
to constantly communicate, constantly say something to people so people could see that I was in the

4424
04:26:42,800 --> 04:26:46,720
office on Vancouver that I hadn't fled anywhere, hadn't run away. That was important for the military

4425
04:26:46,720 --> 04:26:52,320
too. Later on with time, the military told me that it meant a lot to them. They stood strong,

4426
04:26:52,320 --> 04:26:57,200
fought, defended, and liberated Kiv because they believed they were liberating their capital,

4427
04:26:57,200 --> 04:27:01,680
their home, and their president. Meaning that he didn't abandon us, that he stayed with us. That's

4428
04:27:01,680 --> 04:27:10,000
what they said. Well, it was my duty. I don't see it as some kind of very special choice of mine.

4429
04:27:10,000 --> 04:27:17,200
I believe that this was the only way I could act. What were you scared? Because if I, you have a

4430
04:27:17,200 --> 04:27:22,320
nuclear power, one of the biggest militaries in the world that have 64 miles of military equipment

4431
04:27:22,320 --> 04:27:27,840
heading towards where you are, and you have them invading also by air, firing missiles into the

4432
04:27:27,840 --> 04:27:32,160
cities that you're in and your family are in, you've made the decision you're going to stay.

4433
04:27:33,840 --> 04:27:41,520
Were you scared? Scared? It's a different feeling. It's not about fear. It's about being

4434
04:27:43,120 --> 04:27:47,920
laser focused on what needs to be done right now. We were working at such speed.

4435
04:27:49,200 --> 04:27:54,160
I can't even tell you. I was just running around the office. I was running making decisions,

4436
04:27:54,160 --> 04:27:58,880
calling leaders. I just had no breaks. I had, I don't know, dozens of calls with leaders

4437
04:27:58,880 --> 04:28:04,320
every single day, every hour, every second. I'd run outside, come back, talk to the military,

4438
04:28:04,320 --> 04:28:10,960
come back. By the way, Republicans and then other propagandist fucking losers, but Republicans and

4439
04:28:10,960 --> 04:28:16,240
alt media losers in the United States would constantly say things about how they're stealing.

4440
04:28:16,240 --> 04:28:20,080
Ukrainians are stealing our money to send them on shopping sprees in New York City.

4441
04:28:20,080 --> 04:28:26,640
That's Olensky's wife is buying a new beautiful dress at some mall or whatever. That was all the

4442
04:28:26,640 --> 04:28:30,000
talk in the early days, a lot of these fucking crazy alt media losers online.

4443
04:28:31,360 --> 04:28:38,160
You just didn't have time for that. I only realized it all about 20 days into the war. I just realized

4444
04:28:38,160 --> 04:28:44,400
that something happened, something terrible, and the speed, you know, when the speed slightly

4445
04:28:44,400 --> 04:28:50,880
slightly began to shift. Well, this is war, this is, and it's without a doubt, a horrible war.

4446
04:28:51,520 --> 04:28:57,920
Yeah, but at first I, I was just working. Honestly, I have this trait. I don't even think it's just

4447
04:28:57,920 --> 04:29:01,600
me. People have this trait to pull yourself together when, you know, shock,

4448
04:29:03,120 --> 04:29:06,880
people around you are in shock, and you see it in their eyes, you see that they, you know,

4449
04:29:06,880 --> 04:29:13,360
well, they're in shock, and you realize that you need to act right now. Just act, act every second,

4450
04:29:13,360 --> 04:29:19,920
draw conclusions, keep us blockaded, open it up, tell the military, open the road. We need food to

4451
04:29:19,920 --> 04:29:25,040
get in water and so on. That is, that's what crisis management is. And in tough situations,

4452
04:29:25,040 --> 04:29:29,840
basically, that's usually how I act in tough situations. And it's not like I'm, again,

4453
04:29:29,840 --> 04:29:34,560
the bravest person is just when this kind of thing hits, I see people around me falling apart,

4454
04:29:34,560 --> 04:29:38,480
you know, falling apart. Well, because it's a terrible war, I pull myself together completely.

4455
04:29:38,480 --> 04:29:45,040
And only later, really, once you've relaxed, you realized that a terrible tragedy occurred,

4456
04:29:45,040 --> 04:29:51,760
a war and, and it's just immense grief, pretty much like that.

4457
04:29:53,120 --> 04:29:57,440
When did things slow down enough for you to realize the severity and the impact of the tragedy

4458
04:29:57,440 --> 04:29:59,840
that had taken place in the lives that were lost? Was there a particular moment?

4459
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:04,660
the first few days, I didn't sleep at all.

4460
04:30:04,660 --> 04:30:06,540
The first few days we just worked,

4461
04:30:06,540 --> 04:30:08,620
I was sleeping about, yeah, 15 minutes,

4462
04:30:08,620 --> 04:30:10,340
sleeping 15 minutes because I had,

4463
04:30:10,340 --> 04:30:13,240
my entire job was communication.

4464
04:30:13,240 --> 04:30:15,700
I was talking in circles with every leader,

4465
04:30:15,700 --> 04:30:17,720
deliver this over there, do that there.

4466
04:30:17,720 --> 04:30:21,060
We set up flawless logistics for weapons.

4467
04:30:21,060 --> 04:30:24,540
We were able, I was talking at night with Poland,

4468
04:30:24,540 --> 04:30:27,000
with Andre Duda, there was a warehouse there.

4469
04:30:27,000 --> 04:30:28,500
We were waking leaders up,

4470
04:30:28,500 --> 04:30:29,740
meaning in the middle of the night.

4471
04:30:29,740 --> 04:30:31,660
So it was, well, it's improper to say this today.

4472
04:30:31,660 --> 04:30:32,980
You shouldn't treat people like that.

4473
04:30:32,980 --> 04:30:33,820
But that's how it was.

4474
04:30:33,820 --> 04:30:37,820
And about 20 days later, into the war,

4475
04:30:37,820 --> 04:30:40,700
everything started coming together into some steps

4476
04:30:40,700 --> 04:30:43,020
that needed to be taken into some kind of,

4477
04:30:43,020 --> 04:30:45,620
well, like the realization that, well,

4478
04:30:46,740 --> 04:30:51,420
a war had begun, war, tragedy, and we have to move forward.

4479
04:30:51,420 --> 04:30:53,260
And well, that's about how it was.

4480
04:30:53,260 --> 04:30:57,740
At first it was crisis management, unblock,

4481
04:30:57,740 --> 04:31:01,100
bring back troops, break the siege of Kiev,

4482
04:31:01,100 --> 04:31:02,820
strike back at them.

4483
04:31:02,820 --> 04:31:07,820
And definitely the most crucial things were communications,

4484
04:31:08,300 --> 04:31:11,220
food, water, the population.

4485
04:31:11,220 --> 04:31:13,300
So many cities were cut off.

4486
04:31:13,300 --> 04:31:15,460
It wasn't just the banking system,

4487
04:31:15,460 --> 04:31:17,820
cards, making sure cards worked.

4488
04:31:17,820 --> 04:31:21,020
I mean, we're a pretty digitalized country.

4489
04:31:21,020 --> 04:31:23,140
So a lot of things were done.

4490
04:31:23,140 --> 04:31:25,480
A lot of things were done in those first weeks.

4491
04:31:25,480 --> 04:31:28,060
We were faster than the Russians.

4492
04:31:28,060 --> 04:31:30,380
They broke through quickly toward Kiev.

4493
04:31:30,380 --> 04:31:32,060
And once we stopped them at Kiev,

4494
04:31:32,060 --> 04:31:36,300
we became much faster in the information space and so on.

4495
04:31:36,300 --> 04:31:39,420
We shattered their whole wave of disinformation

4496
04:31:39,420 --> 04:31:42,100
and just broke them down step by step, step by step,

4497
04:31:43,180 --> 04:31:48,180
until they realized that they lost the capital to us.

4498
04:31:49,860 --> 04:31:54,620
And then it became clear that we had to push harder.

4499
04:31:54,620 --> 04:31:55,980
Our partners helped.

4500
04:31:55,980 --> 04:31:58,260
Our partners realized that we wouldn't give up

4501
04:31:58,260 --> 04:31:59,660
and they started helping.

4502
04:31:59,660 --> 04:32:01,180
That was definitely it.

4503
04:32:01,180 --> 04:32:03,180
I remember how it happened.

4504
04:32:03,180 --> 04:32:05,700
- It is often said that Vladimir Putin believed

4505
04:32:05,700 --> 04:32:07,420
he would be able to take Kiev and Ukraine

4506
04:32:07,420 --> 04:32:08,260
in just a number of days

4507
04:32:08,260 --> 04:32:09,820
and actually captured Russian assault units

4508
04:32:09,820 --> 04:32:13,180
carried only three to 10 days of combat rations

4509
04:32:13,180 --> 04:32:16,860
alongside formal dress uniforms meant for a victory parade.

4510
04:32:16,860 --> 04:32:18,540
While state media accidentally released

4511
04:32:18,540 --> 04:32:21,740
a pre-scheduled victory declaration on day three.

4512
04:32:21,740 --> 04:32:23,860
Although Putin never publicly uttered a phrase,

4513
04:32:23,860 --> 04:32:25,940
three days were said a sort of timeframe himself.

4514
04:32:25,940 --> 04:32:28,180
There are top Russian state media figures

4515
04:32:28,180 --> 04:32:29,740
who openly bragged that the conquest

4516
04:32:29,740 --> 04:32:31,580
would take only a few days.

4517
04:32:31,580 --> 04:32:35,140
What is it that they misunderestimated about Ukraine?

4518
04:32:35,140 --> 04:32:37,500
- That's right, exactly what you started with today,

4519
04:32:37,500 --> 04:32:39,340
that Ukraine is not Russia.

4520
04:32:39,340 --> 04:32:42,780
That's his problem, refusing to recognize a separate nation,

4521
04:32:42,780 --> 04:32:44,740
refusing to recognize a separate country.

4522
04:32:44,740 --> 04:32:45,860
That's what did him in.

4523
04:32:45,860 --> 04:32:48,700
He still doesn't understand that he looks at Ukraine

4524
04:32:48,700 --> 04:32:50,500
as Russia, as part of Russia.

4525
04:32:50,500 --> 04:32:52,500
That all marching with an army will have hundreds

4526
04:32:52,500 --> 04:32:54,980
of thousands of men, he'll slam his fist on the table,

4527
04:32:54,980 --> 04:32:57,220
the president will run away, people will hide,

4528
04:32:57,220 --> 04:32:58,980
and the Ukrainian flag will be swapped

4529
04:32:58,980 --> 04:33:00,100
for the Russian flag, and that's it.

4530
04:33:00,100 --> 04:33:02,300
Three days, we showed a military operation

4531
04:33:02,300 --> 04:33:03,580
that was supposed to take three days.

4532
04:33:03,580 --> 04:33:04,420
That's how it is.

4533
04:33:04,420 --> 04:33:05,860
When our guys hit their tanks and stuff,

4534
04:33:05,860 --> 04:33:07,100
we found parade uniforms.

4535
04:33:07,100 --> 04:33:08,580
It's true, they found parade uniforms

4536
04:33:08,580 --> 04:33:10,580
in their various military vehicles.

4537
04:33:10,580 --> 04:33:12,460
They were literally marching to a parade.

4538
04:33:12,460 --> 04:33:15,300
They specifically wanted to capture Kiev in three days

4539
04:33:15,300 --> 04:33:19,460
and symbolically hold some kind of regular,

4540
04:33:19,460 --> 04:33:23,020
spectacle of pseudo-victory, on Christiatic,

4541
04:33:23,020 --> 04:33:24,820
on Independent Square.

4542
04:33:24,820 --> 04:33:26,380
Well, I mean, that's the most important thing.

4543
04:33:26,380 --> 04:33:29,740
He still doesn't understand and doesn't want to admit

4544
04:33:29,740 --> 04:33:32,820
that this is a different nation, a different people.

4545
04:33:32,820 --> 04:33:34,500
- Just 12 hours ago, Trump weighed in

4546
04:33:34,500 --> 04:33:37,020
on what he believed happened with Kiev

4547
04:33:37,020 --> 04:33:39,540
and why Vladimir Putin wasn't able to take Kiev.

4548
04:33:39,540 --> 04:33:40,940
This is what he said off right up on the screen.

4549
04:33:40,940 --> 04:33:41,780
- Oh boy.

4550
04:33:41,780 --> 04:33:43,780
But then it was supposed to be a very, you know,

4551
04:33:43,780 --> 04:33:44,820
very quick war. - Right.

4552
04:33:44,820 --> 04:33:46,700
- And if you remember, the tanks going up the highway

4553
04:33:46,700 --> 04:33:48,580
right into Kiev had the general,

4554
04:33:48,580 --> 04:33:50,580
who was obviously not a very good general,

4555
04:33:50,580 --> 04:33:52,300
not made a right turn into farmland,

4556
04:33:52,300 --> 04:33:54,780
which was soaked and soaking wet from the heaviest rain.

4557
04:33:54,780 --> 04:33:55,620
(laughing)

4558
04:33:55,620 --> 04:33:56,780
- Oh my God.

4559
04:33:58,420 --> 04:34:00,820
It's because the Google Maps wasn't working, guys.

4560
04:34:02,180 --> 04:34:03,620
- In 10 years, they say.

4561
04:34:03,620 --> 04:34:06,340
He went right up into the mud and it was like quicksand

4562
04:34:06,340 --> 04:34:07,980
and those tanks, so they got, I guess,

4563
04:34:07,980 --> 04:34:09,660
I don't know if you're caught lucky or not lucky, frankly,

4564
04:34:09,660 --> 04:34:11,900
'cause it's been five years and Ukraine has lost

4565
04:34:11,900 --> 04:34:16,540
a tremendous, you know, Ukraine has lost so many of its men.

4566
04:34:16,540 --> 04:34:18,540
Number one, had they not taken the right turn?

4567
04:34:18,540 --> 04:34:20,780
- On to dirt, instead of going up a concrete highway,

4568
04:34:20,780 --> 04:34:22,820
it would have ended in one day.

4569
04:34:22,820 --> 04:34:25,700
- So Trump says that it was a Russian mistake

4570
04:34:25,700 --> 04:34:27,980
taking the wrong turn that stopped this war

4571
04:34:27,980 --> 04:34:29,020
being over in a day.

4572
04:34:30,100 --> 04:34:31,540
- No, they surrounded Kiev.

4573
04:34:31,540 --> 04:34:33,340
They reached Kiev.

4574
04:34:33,340 --> 04:34:36,540
They occupied towns on the way to Kiev.

4575
04:34:36,540 --> 04:34:38,220
Some, they didn't occupy towns for it back.

4576
04:34:38,220 --> 04:34:39,780
They bypassed them.

4577
04:34:39,780 --> 04:34:41,360
No, if someone took a wrong turn,

4578
04:34:41,360 --> 04:34:43,060
I don't know what President Trump is talking about.

4579
04:34:43,060 --> 04:34:44,700
It's, overall, it doesn't matter.

4580
04:34:44,700 --> 04:34:47,140
- Wow, idiot, Zolensky, doesn't understand the,

4581
04:34:48,260 --> 04:34:51,340
the nuances of military operations like Donald Trump does.

4582
04:34:51,340 --> 04:34:53,980
- With all the armor they lost near Kiev,

4583
04:34:53,980 --> 04:34:56,100
hostile and so on, in other words,

4584
04:34:56,100 --> 04:34:59,140
dozens, hundreds of armored vehicles burned.

4585
04:34:59,140 --> 04:34:59,980
They just,

4586
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:03,360
They just trapped us and then we started hammering them and they didn't know what to

4587
04:35:03,360 --> 04:35:07,360
do about it because some of their armor breached into key right into the capital.

4588
04:35:07,360 --> 04:35:10,760
Armored vehicles drove through the streets and people burned it all down.

4589
04:35:10,760 --> 04:35:16,000
They were especially shocked when they drove toward the capital and people were just throwing,

4590
04:35:16,000 --> 04:35:17,000
burning debris.

4591
04:35:17,000 --> 04:35:20,540
I mean, people were setting their armor on fire.

4592
04:35:20,540 --> 04:35:22,880
It wasn't a matter of some general being an idiot.

4593
04:35:22,880 --> 04:35:27,360
I believe the one who gave the order just didn't fully realize what was happening, didn't

4594
04:35:27,360 --> 04:35:29,480
really get what it would take.

4595
04:35:29,480 --> 04:35:30,920
That's the main point.

4596
04:35:30,920 --> 04:35:38,560
They needed around thousands, thousands, I think three to four hundred thousand to take

4597
04:35:38,560 --> 04:35:39,560
key.

4598
04:35:39,560 --> 04:35:41,360
They needed twice as many men.

4599
04:35:41,360 --> 04:35:42,360
Why?

4600
04:35:42,360 --> 04:35:43,360
Because taking key.

4601
04:35:43,360 --> 04:35:44,360
What does taking key mean?

4602
04:35:44,360 --> 04:35:48,600
When you've taken those towns on the way to key, you have to leave troops behind to hold

4603
04:35:48,600 --> 04:35:49,600
those towns.

4604
04:35:49,600 --> 04:35:51,360
And that takes a huge number of people.

4605
04:35:51,360 --> 04:35:54,600
It's a pretty large territory and you can avoid leaving many troops there only if there's

4606
04:35:54,600 --> 04:35:56,040
no resistance.

4607
04:35:56,040 --> 04:36:01,500
But if the people inside offer resistance, then you need an army to hold every town.

4608
04:36:01,500 --> 04:36:03,000
That was their mistake.

4609
04:36:03,000 --> 04:36:05,400
They didn't estimate, right?

4610
04:36:05,400 --> 04:36:06,640
Didn't estimate.

4611
04:36:06,640 --> 04:36:09,640
They didn't even realize there would be resistance.

4612
04:36:09,640 --> 04:36:11,040
That's it.

4613
04:36:11,040 --> 04:36:17,520
That was their main mistake.

4614
04:36:17,520 --> 04:36:18,520
And then that's it.

4615
04:36:18,520 --> 04:36:19,520
That's all.

4616
04:36:19,520 --> 04:36:30,040
If you take that operation back in 2014, when they went in and seized Crimea, then pardon

4617
04:36:30,040 --> 04:36:38,440
me, in Crimea, there are three million people and Kiev had three million people.

4618
04:36:38,440 --> 04:36:45,920
Dozens of people entered Crimea at most hundreds and here hundreds of thousands.

4619
04:36:45,920 --> 04:36:48,280
It's not about the operation.

4620
04:36:48,280 --> 04:36:52,400
The difference is people defended it, stood up and fought and the difference is no one

4621
04:36:52,400 --> 04:36:59,320
fought back, which is why I said when dozens of people showed up here, where Trump is right,

4622
04:36:59,320 --> 04:37:02,560
is that if Crimea hadn't been allowed to fall, there would be no war on this.

4623
04:37:02,560 --> 04:37:04,520
I agree with President Trump.

4624
04:37:04,520 --> 04:37:06,120
Not because I'm blaming anyone, no.

4625
04:37:06,120 --> 04:37:08,800
It's just that dozens of people went into Crimea, dozens.

4626
04:37:08,800 --> 04:37:10,440
For a country like this, that's zero.

4627
04:37:10,440 --> 04:37:11,440
That's nothing.

4628
04:37:11,440 --> 04:37:14,480
We handled hundreds of thousands.

4629
04:37:14,480 --> 04:37:15,480
Here's what happened.

4630
04:37:15,480 --> 04:37:18,040
And if they'd been smacked in the head back then, the Russians.

4631
04:37:18,040 --> 04:37:21,880
Those people wearing uniforms, meaning the Russians would have even said, hey, they were

4632
04:37:21,880 --> 04:37:23,560
already saying that's not our army.

4633
04:37:23,560 --> 04:37:24,800
Look at the uniforms.

4634
04:37:24,800 --> 04:37:26,140
You can't tell it's the Russian army.

4635
04:37:26,140 --> 04:37:29,040
And if they'd been hit back then, well, it wouldn't have happened.

4636
04:37:29,040 --> 04:37:31,480
Well, at least there wouldn't have been a chance of a full-scale war.

4637
04:37:31,480 --> 04:37:32,480
Why?

4638
04:37:32,480 --> 04:37:34,120
Because Putin would have known there would be...

4639
04:37:34,120 --> 04:37:36,040
What happened to Alex Friedman seems like he's vanished from relevancy?

4640
04:37:36,040 --> 04:37:37,040
I have no idea.

4641
04:37:37,040 --> 04:37:41,720
I don't know how a guy gets that big in doing interviews and everything else and then vanishes.

4642
04:37:41,720 --> 04:37:42,720
I don't know.

4643
04:37:42,720 --> 04:37:46,960
Has he updated like a social media, anything or posted a video about it?

4644
04:37:46,960 --> 04:37:47,960
A blow.

4645
04:37:47,960 --> 04:37:48,960
There would be a response.

4646
04:37:48,960 --> 04:37:50,860
But what was his mistake here?

4647
04:37:50,860 --> 04:37:56,400
First of all, when he saw how Crimea was seized so easily, so easily, that's why he thought

4648
04:37:56,400 --> 04:37:58,320
he could seize Kiev just as easily.

4649
04:37:58,320 --> 04:37:59,320
That was his experience.

4650
04:37:59,320 --> 04:38:00,320
You know, it's funny.

4651
04:38:00,320 --> 04:38:07,160
It's also parallel the Donald Trump, Venezuela situation where Donald Trump has like a huge

4652
04:38:07,160 --> 04:38:12,320
win in Venezuela, goes in there in and out in, I don't know, an hour.

4653
04:38:12,320 --> 04:38:14,000
But then he tries to go in Iran and do the same thing.

4654
04:38:14,000 --> 04:38:15,640
He just gets absolutely fucked.

4655
04:38:15,640 --> 04:38:16,640
Yeah.

4656
04:38:16,640 --> 04:38:17,640
He's totally retarded way, yeah.

4657
04:38:17,640 --> 04:38:18,640
No.

4658
04:38:18,640 --> 04:38:21,800
Oh, no, he still posts videos.

4659
04:38:21,800 --> 04:38:22,800
Regularly.

4660
04:38:22,800 --> 04:38:23,800
How many is he good?

4661
04:38:23,800 --> 04:38:24,800
Oh, maybe he does.

4662
04:38:24,800 --> 04:38:25,800
A lot of you still.

4663
04:38:25,800 --> 04:38:34,640
Maybe it's just because he's kind of moved away more from politics stuff.

4664
04:38:34,640 --> 04:38:36,200
Maybe.

4665
04:38:36,200 --> 04:38:42,520
Well, that took place to secure the Anatonov airport?

4666
04:38:42,520 --> 04:38:43,520
Hostomel.

4667
04:38:43,520 --> 04:38:45,560
Hostomel Antonov.

4668
04:38:45,560 --> 04:38:46,680
That's what I just told you.

4669
04:38:46,680 --> 04:38:47,680
That's a battle.

4670
04:38:47,680 --> 04:38:50,240
There's a terrible battle in Hostomel, a brutal battle.

4671
04:38:50,240 --> 04:38:51,240
The airport in Hostomel.

4672
04:38:51,240 --> 04:38:53,000
Can you explain that to me?

4673
04:38:53,000 --> 04:38:56,240
Because I watched the documentary on this a couple of months ago and it feels like it

4674
04:38:56,240 --> 04:38:59,440
was a really pivotal moment in defending Kiev.

4675
04:38:59,440 --> 04:39:00,680
What were Russia trying to do?

4676
04:39:00,680 --> 04:39:01,680
Where is this?

4677
04:39:01,680 --> 04:39:04,840
When they land, for them, it was crucial to seize the airports.

4678
04:39:04,840 --> 04:39:11,160
Hostomel is one of the airports where a massive landing force could land and so on.

4679
04:39:11,160 --> 04:39:12,640
So here's how it takes over works.

4680
04:39:12,640 --> 04:39:15,480
Block Kiv captured the airports, basically.

4681
04:39:15,480 --> 04:39:16,960
TV towers and so forth.

4682
04:39:16,960 --> 04:39:23,960
In other words, seize information, logistics, and cut off supplies of food, weapons, and

4683
04:39:23,960 --> 04:39:24,960
so on.

4684
04:39:24,960 --> 04:39:30,040
That's basically the plan and you need the leader to run because no leader means chaos.

4685
04:39:30,040 --> 04:39:31,200
No chain of command.

4686
04:39:31,200 --> 04:39:32,300
That's what they were doing.

4687
04:39:32,300 --> 04:39:33,960
There was a terrible battle in Hostomel.

4688
04:39:33,960 --> 04:39:38,080
Our people burned them there and they had very tough combat units.

4689
04:39:38,080 --> 04:39:41,280
They couldn't land a large force there.

4690
04:39:41,280 --> 04:39:42,280
They were destroyed.

4691
04:39:42,280 --> 04:39:46,560
Hostomel was taken back, our troops controlled it.

4692
04:39:46,560 --> 04:39:50,560
That was one of the striking battles, a terrible battle, one of the most striking battles.

4693
04:39:50,560 --> 04:39:56,080
So we did everything possible not to let them capture us and seize our logistics.

4694
04:39:56,080 --> 04:40:00,000
They flew in with paratroopers, so they parachuted people into an airport.

4695
04:40:00,000 --> 04:40:02,800
to try and claim it, and they originally did seize the apple.

4696
04:40:04,240 --> 04:40:05,800
Well, they try to take the...

4697
04:40:06,240 --> 04:40:08,880
Yeah, all the paratroopers are just fucking went in, just dead.

4698
04:40:08,880 --> 04:40:10,240
Or prisoners of war, I guess, right?

4699
04:40:12,200 --> 04:40:13,200
That's right.

4700
04:40:13,720 --> 04:40:17,200
And then there was an immediate counterattack where Ukrainian National Guard units

4701
04:40:17,200 --> 04:40:19,040
and special forces... Yes, our National Guard.

4702
04:40:19,920 --> 04:40:21,680
You shelled and destroyed the runway yourself.

4703
04:40:21,680 --> 04:40:24,080
You destroyed your own runway, while air defense units

4704
04:40:24,080 --> 04:40:26,440
forces shot down several Russian transport helicopters.

4705
04:40:26,880 --> 04:40:29,960
And from what I understood, you know, you took the airport

4706
04:40:30,000 --> 04:40:32,200
back, they fought, you took it back, before you took it back.

4707
04:40:32,200 --> 04:40:33,120
Yeah, it is constant. That's right.

4708
04:40:33,120 --> 04:40:35,760
A bit of a smell changed hands back and forth, that's how it was.

4709
04:40:36,280 --> 04:40:38,240
And if they had been able to seize that airport,

4710
04:40:38,880 --> 04:40:40,800
how would that have changed the situation?

4711
04:40:40,800 --> 04:40:41,440
What can you think?

4712
04:40:42,800 --> 04:40:46,480
Likely they could have taken most of the capital.

4713
04:40:47,360 --> 04:40:50,240
They could have broken through and captured it, that's true.

4714
04:40:51,120 --> 04:40:52,560
That's true. That was an afternoon heroic...

4715
04:40:52,560 --> 04:40:55,760
I think the airport and start landing, and they can get, like, refuel and more people there.

4716
04:40:56,720 --> 04:40:57,360
Probably, yeah.

4717
04:40:58,240 --> 04:41:01,600
I think one of the big issues for war, it's, like, kind of boring and not really talked about much,

4718
04:41:01,600 --> 04:41:04,160
but, like, the whole logistic thing is kind of a big deal.

4719
04:41:04,160 --> 04:41:06,160
Like, if you move a bunch of people in an area, you've got to have, like,

4720
04:41:06,160 --> 04:41:10,560
your supply lines behind them in order to feed them and resupply them and everything else.

4721
04:41:10,560 --> 04:41:14,320
And so, my guess is, if you take an airport, you can shortcut that a little bit,

4722
04:41:14,320 --> 04:41:17,200
because I can just fucking fly shit in, and you don't have to worry as much about

4723
04:41:17,200 --> 04:41:19,280
clear lines of travel, and it's just faster, maybe.

4724
04:41:19,280 --> 04:41:23,200
That's why, like, the U.S. is, like, king at war, because, like, our logistics is, like,

4725
04:41:23,200 --> 04:41:25,920
the best ever in mankind, right?

4726
04:41:25,920 --> 04:41:29,360
Yeah. Now we're a good logistics.

4727
04:41:29,600 --> 04:41:31,120
What do you, royal, what are you doing to my server?

4728
04:41:36,560 --> 04:41:37,680
Update the PHP.

4729
04:41:39,680 --> 04:41:42,080
Wait, is that a real picture of the Russians in the elevator?

4730
04:41:43,600 --> 04:41:44,240
Where? What?

4731
04:41:46,480 --> 04:41:46,880
I'm like...

4732
04:41:46,880 --> 04:41:47,760
Oh, the Wikipedia thing?

4733
04:41:48,480 --> 04:41:50,000
No, I don't know, it was the Wikipedia thing.

4734
04:41:50,000 --> 04:41:50,880
That's the image itself.

4735
04:41:53,760 --> 04:41:55,360
When you hear these stories, you realize that?

4736
04:41:56,480 --> 04:42:03,120
The future of Ukraine comes down to both heroism, but also several small battles.

4737
04:42:03,120 --> 04:42:05,200
Some big battles, but also several small moments.

4738
04:42:05,920 --> 04:42:10,240
When you reflect on that, that month, that moment, is there any other sort of small moments

4739
04:42:10,240 --> 04:42:12,160
that you think really defined the future of Ukraine in this regard?

4740
04:42:13,840 --> 04:42:22,640
Well, just so you know, today, places like Hostomell then further up Mosheum and several small towns

4741
04:42:22,640 --> 04:42:26,160
around Kiev, there was a desperate battle for every single one of those towns.

4742
04:42:26,960 --> 04:42:28,080
Why the National Guard?

4743
04:42:28,080 --> 04:42:31,520
Because back then, the full army couldn't reach it yet.

4744
04:42:31,520 --> 04:42:34,800
But the National Guard are internal troops.

4745
04:42:35,440 --> 04:42:39,360
So they were there and brought in army units and so on.

4746
04:42:39,360 --> 04:42:42,160
But nonetheless, that's why it was an utterly heroic battle.

4747
04:42:42,160 --> 04:42:44,960
There was Boucher, you know, right, that they occupied it.

4748
04:42:44,960 --> 04:42:47,600
It was terrible. It was a genocide recognized by everyone.

4749
04:42:47,600 --> 04:42:49,360
They buried hundreds of people.

4750
04:42:49,360 --> 04:42:50,240
They tortured people.

4751
04:42:50,240 --> 04:42:53,440
I mean, tortured them and hundreds of people were in a mass grave.

4752
04:42:53,440 --> 04:42:54,080
They found the grave.

4753
04:42:54,080 --> 04:42:58,240
There were, I believe, around 500 people, half a thousand people in the grave like that.

4754
04:42:58,240 --> 04:43:03,360
Just imagine, hands tied, tortured, and then buried in pits.

4755
04:43:04,080 --> 04:43:05,200
That's what was happening.

4756
04:43:05,200 --> 04:43:12,240
People seeing all this, this looked nothing like a war.

4757
04:43:12,240 --> 04:43:17,840
It looked, it was definitely pure looting when they occupied those towns on the way to Kiev

4758
04:43:17,840 --> 04:43:21,840
and around Kiev. They just went into homes, just killed,

4759
04:43:21,840 --> 04:43:26,080
took microwaves, some refrigerators, TVs.

4760
04:43:27,200 --> 04:43:30,800
They acted like just, well, I can't even describe it.

4761
04:43:30,800 --> 04:43:32,000
Well, they're just scavengers.

4762
04:43:32,640 --> 04:43:36,160
And all these people, they tied their hands, tortured them.

4763
04:43:38,480 --> 04:43:40,400
There was sexual violence, everything.

4764
04:43:40,400 --> 04:43:43,680
And they buried people right in the yard, dumped people, and so on.

4765
04:43:43,680 --> 04:43:45,920
When we liberated those towns,

4766
04:43:48,160 --> 04:43:52,160
they emerged this, you know, this kind of such hatred for the Russians.

4767
04:43:53,040 --> 04:43:57,360
Right at that moment, not even at the moment when they started the full-scale war.

4768
04:43:58,080 --> 04:44:00,320
Back then, nobody understood what it really was yet.

4769
04:44:01,040 --> 04:44:04,480
People understood what this war was and what Putin did personally

4770
04:44:04,480 --> 04:44:08,560
when we found those mass graves of tortured adults, children.

4771
04:44:09,280 --> 04:44:10,640
I mean, they didn't just kill them.

4772
04:44:10,640 --> 04:44:12,400
They tortured and killed them.

4773
04:44:12,400 --> 04:44:13,840
Children, that's right.

4774
04:44:14,800 --> 04:44:15,360
That's right.

4775
04:44:16,240 --> 04:44:19,840
And then you realize that, I mean, just imagine what they went through.

4776
04:44:20,960 --> 04:44:22,160
Well, there's no, no.

4777
04:44:22,960 --> 04:44:25,360
You can't even compare what all these people lived through.

4778
04:44:25,360 --> 04:44:28,880
Why Boucher is so horrifying and why the Russians immediately started saying,

4779
04:44:28,880 --> 04:44:31,280
it's a staged performance we brought in journalists.

4780
04:44:31,280 --> 04:44:32,880
The entire world press was there.

4781
04:44:32,880 --> 04:44:34,080
They saw the bodies.

4782
04:44:34,080 --> 04:44:37,680
I deliberately, when we liberated Boucher, I went there.

4783
04:44:37,680 --> 04:44:40,960
Once I saw it, I said, bring every journalist here.

4784
04:44:41,920 --> 04:44:42,880
Don't touch anything.

4785
04:44:42,880 --> 04:44:44,160
Just bring the journalists.

4786
04:44:44,160 --> 04:44:45,840
The whole world simply has to see this.

4787
04:44:46,240 --> 04:44:47,680
And they brought the journalists.

4788
04:44:47,680 --> 04:44:49,680
People were literally lying on the pavement.

4789
04:44:49,680 --> 04:44:51,280
Dead bodies lying everywhere.

4790
04:44:51,280 --> 04:44:54,080
Kids, adults, elderly people, and so on.

4791
04:44:54,080 --> 04:44:55,920
Witnesses who had stayed behind in Boucher.

4792
04:44:55,920 --> 04:44:56,880
An old man.

4793
04:44:56,880 --> 04:44:57,920
An elderly man.

4794
04:44:57,920 --> 04:44:59,600
This was a very famous story there.

4795
04:44:59,600 --> 04:45:00,480
It's one of them.

4796
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:05,200
of those moments you're talking about. This elderly man, he survived the occupation of

4797
04:45:05,200 --> 04:45:12,640
this town, the town of Bucia during World War II. And he said the fascists never treated

4798
04:45:12,640 --> 04:45:17,640
people like that. Yes, they were enemies, yes occupiers, but they didn't torture people

4799
04:45:17,640 --> 04:45:23,680
like that. This is absolute reality. And there are testimonies, there's evidence, there are

4800
04:45:23,680 --> 04:45:28,160
criminal cases. And how after all this, it's just that it was already a long time ago in

4801
04:45:28,160 --> 04:45:31,640
the first year of the full scale war. And sometimes people need to be reminded, when you

4802
04:45:31,640 --> 04:45:38,040
see a mass today finding a grave in the US or in Britain, God forbid, with 500 tortured

4803
04:45:38,040 --> 04:45:45,200
people, adults, kids, dogs, animals, shot dead. I mean, they held hunting sprees there.

4804
04:45:45,200 --> 04:45:48,120
From military vehicles, people were running, they were shooting, just hunting, playing

4805
04:45:48,120 --> 04:45:53,000
games. The whole time they were blockading Kyiv right up until the moment we liberated

4806
04:45:53,000 --> 04:45:58,080
it. They were people in those villages and so on. They literally just played with people

4807
04:45:58,080 --> 04:46:03,820
like slavery. Imagine that. So how how after this? Can you listen to Putin and how how

4808
04:46:03,820 --> 04:46:07,840
after this? Can you forgive? And that's why when President Trump says, we need to find

4809
04:46:07,840 --> 04:46:14,640
a compromise and believe me this, we live with this, a ceasefire and sitting down at

4810
04:46:14,640 --> 04:46:19,160
the negotiating table, there's a huge compromise. It is a huge compromise. Nobody can step into

4811
04:46:19,160 --> 04:46:24,240
the shoes of all these people in the relatives whose children were tortured. Nobody wants

4812
04:46:24,240 --> 04:46:28,240
to forgive them for anything. Nobody wants to forgive anything. And you can't force people

4813
04:46:28,240 --> 04:46:34,040
to forgive. How can you force them when their child was tortured? How do you forgive? Well,

4814
04:46:34,040 --> 04:46:39,080
it's impossible. But that's why we say a ceasefire is the only step because people

4815
04:46:39,080 --> 04:46:45,320
have such hatred. It's not going away. That hatred isn't going anywhere. It takes time

4816
04:46:45,320 --> 04:46:50,320
and justice. And that's why it's a huge compromise. I've always really wanted, I've tried many

4817
04:46:50,320 --> 04:46:54,040
times to tell the President of the United States, just understand us. This is a huge

4818
04:46:54,040 --> 04:46:59,560
compromise just to hold the lines where we are. That just, well, that's what it feels

4819
04:46:59,560 --> 04:47:00,560
like.

4820
04:47:00,560 --> 04:47:07,840
Well, what was your hardest day through the last four years? What's the day that, you

4821
04:47:07,840 --> 04:47:12,440
know, we'll live long in your brain, your mind, your memory?

4822
04:47:12,440 --> 04:47:16,360
Butcha, what I just told you, that was a terrible day because I stood there. I had never seen

4823
04:47:16,360 --> 04:47:20,600
people's bodies just scattered on the street in my entire life. I had simply never seen

4824
04:47:20,600 --> 04:47:25,320
anything like that in my life. And after that, everything changed completely. And once again,

4825
04:47:25,320 --> 04:47:26,800
everything changed in life.

4826
04:47:26,800 --> 04:47:27,800
Everything is changed.

4827
04:47:27,800 --> 04:47:28,800
Absolutely.

4828
04:47:28,800 --> 04:47:49,920
In what way? Well, you want, you want revenge. I had never had it where I couldn't forgive

4829
04:47:49,920 --> 04:47:54,440
someone. And by and large, I think people make mistakes. This is about something else

4830
04:47:54,440 --> 04:48:00,840
evil like that. A devil like that just came in like that, did that to people like, like

4831
04:48:00,840 --> 04:48:06,560
chopped meat, butchered them, you know? I mean, that's what it looks like. And you just can't

4832
04:48:06,560 --> 04:48:10,800
fathom how that's possible. And you want to find these people who aren't human. You want

4833
04:48:10,800 --> 04:48:17,040
to find them and you want to, you just want to, you want to kill them. I mean, I had never

4834
04:48:17,040 --> 04:48:22,000
wanted to kill a single human being. I had never felt anything like that.

4835
04:48:22,000 --> 04:48:28,360
Never revenge. With time, you can't forget that. And in moments like this, and our conversation

4836
04:48:28,360 --> 04:48:34,920
brings back moments like that. And you have to be president and you have to calm down and

4837
04:48:34,920 --> 04:48:42,840
be more how to put it. Diplomatic. Yeah. Well, you can't forgive, just forgive everything

4838
04:48:42,840 --> 04:48:50,320
like that and say, well, sorry, that's putting a powerful country. Let's just forget everything.

4839
04:48:50,320 --> 04:48:56,160
Let's forgive everything. And somehow, well, we'll buy and sell gas or diesel or whatever.

4840
04:48:56,160 --> 04:49:01,080
That's difficult. You understand? Do you ever worry about how this experience

4841
04:49:01,080 --> 04:49:03,400
has changed? Hello. Hi, what's up?

4842
04:49:03,400 --> 04:49:11,800
I mean, commentary, have you heard seeing Trump saying that Russia behaved reason, right?

4843
04:49:11,800 --> 04:49:16,480
And they didn't do anything out of ordinary or extraordinary? I've seen a mixed statements

4844
04:49:16,480 --> 04:49:23,880
akin to that before, yeah. Yeah. This was reported on every single channel in Ukraine,

4845
04:49:23,880 --> 04:49:33,880
by the way, like basically every news telegram, anything. And I can't tell you how this feels

4846
04:49:33,880 --> 04:49:43,160
to hear that because of things like butcher and things like you know, them recording themselves

4847
04:49:43,160 --> 04:49:49,320
cutting people's heads off. And yeah, and there's like footage of them raping a child

4848
04:49:49,320 --> 04:49:55,200
that they recorded. And yeah, there's so much things you don't even, you can't even know

4849
04:49:55,200 --> 04:49:59,040
because obviously, like, I don't expect you to go watch shit like that. Like, why would

4850
04:49:59,040 --> 04:50:00,040
you?

4851
04:50:00,000 --> 04:50:08,880
But I was there when Izum mass graves were discovered because I took reporters there as a translator

4852
04:50:09,840 --> 04:50:18,240
for them. And Izum was less reported on them, but it was even worse. And 90% of people were

4853
04:50:18,240 --> 04:50:25,920
civilian in the graves. And I saw them take out bodies with hands tied behind their back. And

4854
04:50:25,920 --> 04:50:34,880
they had their genitals cut out. And they had parts of them cut out. They had electrocuted burns.

4855
04:50:34,880 --> 04:50:43,520
They had broken bones, absolutely horrendous fucking organs pulled out. Like, oh, you just don't even,

4856
04:50:43,520 --> 04:50:47,760
there's photographs of that shield online. If, you know, if anyone wants to look that up,

4857
04:50:47,760 --> 04:50:52,080
they can. It's a zoom. It's in my region. It's like two hour drive from where I live.

4858
04:50:53,600 --> 04:50:59,760
And, yeah, so imagine you hear that then as a Ukrainian that they didn't do anything. They

4859
04:50:59,760 --> 04:51:06,640
behaved reasonably over there. Like, you, people will not forget that shield anytime soon. Let's

4860
04:51:06,640 --> 04:51:15,120
put it that way. And, yeah, and I remember when I was there, that was when I saw they would pull

4861
04:51:15,120 --> 04:51:21,280
in the bodies out. And they were relatives of the people there that were trying to recognize them.

4862
04:51:21,840 --> 04:51:28,320
And because of all the damage and the decomposing of the bodies, they recognize them by clothing

4863
04:51:28,320 --> 04:51:35,280
mostly. So like, you know, scarves, so like jackets, or like, I don't know, hats, things like that.

4864
04:51:35,280 --> 04:51:41,520
And to see people like wait for the graves and then the bodies pulled out and there's like this

4865
04:51:41,520 --> 04:51:49,600
wailing, absolute like screaming every like hour because bodies are pulled out. And people

4866
04:51:49,600 --> 04:51:58,320
recognized who that is. Yeah, didn't do anything extraordinary. That's for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I

4867
04:51:58,320 --> 04:52:04,720
can imagine. Or I mean, I can say I can't imagine. Yeah. And the mud, by the way, I wanted to say

4868
04:52:04,720 --> 04:52:11,440
like many of the GGers actually asked me about this. So that's why I will say how nice it is that

4869
04:52:11,440 --> 04:52:22,640
we all saw what happened. We repelled like this massive invasion. And took a wrong term. It was

4870
04:52:22,640 --> 04:52:27,600
just the mud. And they're like, you know, it's definitely Putin told him that one because it's a

4871
04:52:27,600 --> 04:52:33,200
very Russian line. Do you guys remember back in the day when we destroyed Mascua a flagship?

4872
04:52:34,000 --> 04:52:38,400
Like the ship? They were doing they were did they say they decommissioned it themselves or

4873
04:52:38,400 --> 04:52:43,440
something? There were many theories, but one was decommissioned and the other was they were smoking

4874
04:52:43,440 --> 04:52:49,760
there and they started the fire on the ship. And many, I remember like people in the West,

4875
04:52:49,760 --> 04:52:55,200
friends, you know, online people in Twitter asking me, how the fuck does Russians think that

4876
04:52:55,200 --> 04:53:01,840
this is less humiliating than accepting that Ukrainians destroyed that ship? Because like to

4877
04:53:01,840 --> 04:53:08,320
ask for Americans, for example, to say that it's our own severe incompetence that destroyed that

4878
04:53:08,320 --> 04:53:13,520
ship would be worse than saying that the enemy took it down. And I was like, oh, you're my

4879
04:53:13,520 --> 04:53:19,920
summer child, you know, you just don't understand what hatred is, because they hate us and despise

4880
04:53:19,920 --> 04:53:27,280
us so much, we are inferior to them. So Ukrainians are funny, rural, retarded,

4881
04:53:27,280 --> 04:53:34,640
Haheli, Haheli's a slur that they say against us. And no, no, no, it's it's hard to explain,

4882
04:53:34,640 --> 04:53:41,120
but it's it it happens, Haheli is like a part of the hairstyle that is traditional Ukrainian hairstyle,

4883
04:53:41,120 --> 04:53:46,800
basically that Kozak's war. It's like shaped head and this lone piece, you probably like saw it

4884
04:53:46,800 --> 04:53:51,760
somewhere. So this refers to that. But anyway, basically consider that like an insult slur thing,

4885
04:53:51,760 --> 04:54:00,320
sort of thing. And we are inferior people. So to the great, noble, smart Russian, right?

4886
04:54:00,320 --> 04:54:06,640
So for them to admit that Ukrainians, someone they they consider, like, absolutely below them,

4887
04:54:07,200 --> 04:54:12,160
are able to pull this off is absolutely unbearable. They would rather say we said that

4888
04:54:12,160 --> 04:54:18,320
shit ourselves on fire than then admit that. So that's the logic. And that's why the mud definitely

4889
04:54:18,320 --> 04:54:23,840
comes from Russians. Like that is that is only a Russian explanation that could make sense like

4890
04:54:23,840 --> 04:54:28,320
that. It's like, you know, when you see they've got them racists and like people Nazis and shit

4891
04:54:28,320 --> 04:54:33,440
like that. And you can see how fucking insulted they are when they debate people in America that

4892
04:54:33,440 --> 04:54:41,120
are like, of other race that they hate. Yeah. And they like feel super angry when they are put in

4893
04:54:41,120 --> 04:54:47,840
their place by the people they consider inferior. Basically like view it that way. So yeah, it's just

4894
04:54:47,840 --> 04:54:54,400
very funny. I would actually bet money that it was a Putin or like somewhere, someone from Russia

4895
04:54:54,400 --> 04:54:59,840
representatives that told them about the mud thing. And now they repeat it. That is the dirt tick to.

4896
04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:01,080
- That took them out.

4897
04:55:01,080 --> 04:55:03,560
- Yeah, did you, this is kind of related to what you said.

4898
04:55:03,560 --> 04:55:07,520
Did you watch Candace Owens against Andrew Wilson?

4899
04:55:09,560 --> 04:55:11,200
- No. - He debated on whether or not,

4900
04:55:11,200 --> 04:55:13,360
it was, it had to do like Charlie Kirk's assassination

4901
04:55:13,360 --> 04:55:15,160
whether or not fucking Israel's behind it or whatever.

4902
04:55:15,160 --> 04:55:16,800
But there was a moment in that debate

4903
04:55:16,800 --> 04:55:19,440
where Andrew Wilson, I guess it was inconceivable

4904
04:55:19,440 --> 04:55:20,440
to him that he'd be losing his fate.

4905
04:55:20,440 --> 04:55:25,240
And he accused Candace Owens of having somebody texting her

4906
04:55:25,240 --> 04:55:27,080
the answers or whatever during the debate.

4907
04:55:27,080 --> 04:55:29,160
And then Candace Owens gave her a phone to the moderator

4908
04:55:29,160 --> 04:55:31,520
to look through and then Andrew Wilson was looking through it.

4909
04:55:31,520 --> 04:55:33,760
And there were no, and it was just like, oh my God, bro,

4910
04:55:33,760 --> 04:55:36,920
why would you even say, why would you, oh God, yeah, Jesus.

4911
04:55:36,920 --> 04:55:38,800
- Yeah, that's why, because he probably thinks

4912
04:55:38,800 --> 04:55:42,360
like not only a woman, but also like a black woman.

4913
04:55:42,360 --> 04:55:45,480
Oh, no shot, she could be possibly be, you know,

4914
04:55:45,480 --> 04:55:48,080
I'll do in me right now without help.

4915
04:55:48,080 --> 04:55:50,280
Yeah, that's exactly that.

4916
04:55:50,280 --> 04:55:53,800
That's basically, it's not racial.

4917
04:55:53,800 --> 04:55:55,560
So, I mean, people don't understand

4918
04:55:55,560 --> 04:55:57,800
that that's the same thing, but that's the same thing

4919
04:55:57,800 --> 04:55:59,560
essentially, right?

4920
04:55:59,560 --> 04:56:01,320
Yes, that's it.

4921
04:56:01,320 --> 04:56:03,880
The mod is now pissing everyone off, like literally.

4922
04:56:03,880 --> 04:56:07,000
He also said Trump that it was a monsoon,

4923
04:56:07,000 --> 04:56:09,160
like a heavy rain, like never before.

4924
04:56:09,160 --> 04:56:12,240
Like there haven't been rain like that in 10 years.

4925
04:56:12,240 --> 04:56:15,960
And like, I just will, I hope everyone understands

4926
04:56:15,960 --> 04:56:16,800
where we live.

4927
04:56:16,800 --> 04:56:19,800
It's a step, it's not a jungle.

4928
04:56:19,800 --> 04:56:23,520
So in February, we don't have rain.

4929
04:56:23,520 --> 04:56:27,520
Like everything is frozen and like there's ice,

4930
04:56:27,520 --> 04:56:29,360
but not much rain.

4931
04:56:29,360 --> 04:56:32,000
So I don't know what the fuck, to be honest,

4932
04:56:32,000 --> 04:56:34,640
but anyway, yeah, that's all.

4933
04:56:34,640 --> 04:56:36,880
All right, yeah.

4934
04:56:36,880 --> 04:56:37,840
Thanks, Hannah.

4935
04:56:37,840 --> 04:56:39,040
Oh, goodbye, Hannah.

4936
04:56:39,040 --> 04:56:41,240
Because you have been irreversibly changed by this.

4937
04:56:41,240 --> 04:56:42,640
I can tell both from meeting you,

4938
04:56:42,640 --> 04:56:45,080
looking at how used to be three, four, five years ago,

4939
04:56:45,080 --> 04:56:47,000
you've been irreversibly changed.

4940
04:56:47,000 --> 04:56:48,800
And you're a father and you're a husband

4941
04:56:48,800 --> 04:56:51,360
and at some point this war will be over.

4942
04:56:51,360 --> 04:56:53,240
You know, good, good-willing.

4943
04:56:53,240 --> 04:56:56,680
But do you ever think about how your irreversibly changed?

4944
04:56:58,520 --> 04:57:00,280
You can't bring it back.

4945
04:57:00,280 --> 04:57:03,240
It's just, it's two different worlds.

4946
04:57:03,240 --> 04:57:08,400
A reevaluation of values, my only dream is to end this war.

4947
04:57:08,400 --> 04:57:10,240
I desperately want justice.

4948
04:57:10,240 --> 04:57:12,480
I just really want, I know, so many people

4949
04:57:12,480 --> 04:57:15,320
had their hearts ripped out and there won't be a new heart.

4950
04:57:15,320 --> 04:57:16,680
You have to give them at least something.

4951
04:57:16,680 --> 04:57:18,480
So some trials, some justice, you know,

4952
04:57:18,480 --> 04:57:20,840
at least some moral solaces and absolute must.

4953
04:57:20,840 --> 04:57:21,760
You can't just leave it.

4954
04:57:21,760 --> 04:57:25,520
Because that hole inside them, it won't heal.

4955
04:57:25,520 --> 04:57:28,200
And there will be revenge, like I told you.

4956
04:57:28,200 --> 04:57:32,520
And the revenge of so many people who lost everything,

4957
04:57:32,520 --> 04:57:38,200
that naturally brings risks of some kind of ongoing military

4958
04:57:38,200 --> 04:57:40,360
or combat actions, you know, and so forth.

4959
04:57:40,360 --> 04:57:41,440
So it's not that simple.

4960
04:57:41,440 --> 04:57:42,920
It doesn't just end like that.

4961
04:57:42,920 --> 04:57:44,640
Why do we talk about a just peace?

4962
04:57:44,640 --> 04:57:46,680
Some people ask, well, what is a just peace?

4963
04:57:46,680 --> 04:57:49,560
Well, somehow there has to be justice.

4964
04:57:49,560 --> 04:57:51,160
The guilty must be punished.

4965
04:57:52,240 --> 04:57:53,600
At the very least, you have to show a path

4966
04:57:53,600 --> 04:57:54,440
that it will happen.

4967
04:57:54,440 --> 04:57:56,160
Maybe not right now, but that it will happen.

4968
04:57:56,160 --> 04:57:58,520
It's just totally impossible to simply forgive.

4969
04:57:58,520 --> 04:58:03,680
And you realize that you want to be with your kids,

4970
04:58:03,680 --> 04:58:04,360
with your wife.

4971
04:58:04,360 --> 04:58:06,800
Generally, you just want to end the war

4972
04:58:06,800 --> 04:58:09,560
and get a little bit of a life.

4973
04:58:09,560 --> 04:58:12,160
But if I ask the leader, your wife,

4974
04:58:12,160 --> 04:58:15,280
how you have changed on a human level,

4975
04:58:15,280 --> 04:58:18,080
because of all of this, what might she say to me?

4976
04:58:18,080 --> 04:58:19,000
I don't know.

4977
04:58:19,000 --> 04:58:21,080
She definitely say I've changed a lot.

4978
04:58:21,080 --> 04:58:23,560
Yeah, she tells me sometimes.

4979
04:58:23,560 --> 04:58:25,600
Yeah, well, what is she saying?

4980
04:58:28,840 --> 04:58:30,200
Well, you know how it is?

4981
04:58:32,240 --> 04:58:34,640
She focuses on different things, you know,

4982
04:58:34,640 --> 04:58:36,360
different values.

4983
04:58:36,360 --> 04:58:38,120
You just want, somehow.

4984
04:58:40,760 --> 04:58:43,040
You want to hold onto something,

4985
04:58:43,040 --> 04:58:45,360
that the people close to you.

4986
04:58:45,360 --> 04:58:46,880
You really crave that warmth.

4987
04:58:47,960 --> 04:58:49,600
You want to break through this.

4988
04:58:51,520 --> 04:58:52,360
Ah.

4989
04:58:54,000 --> 04:58:57,720
In a war, you fight and you're lonely, you know?

4990
04:58:57,720 --> 04:58:59,920
In life before this war, you're definitely not lonely,

4991
04:58:59,920 --> 04:59:02,960
because you have friends, company, business,

4992
04:59:02,960 --> 04:59:06,360
then maybe politics, but you're not lonely.

4993
04:59:06,360 --> 04:59:10,120
I run a country and this is about something

4994
04:59:10,120 --> 04:59:11,360
completely different right now.

4995
04:59:11,360 --> 04:59:15,200
But when you hug your family, it's just like that.

4996
04:59:15,200 --> 04:59:18,000
Well, it means there are people who love you.

4997
04:59:18,000 --> 04:59:19,440
That matters.

4998
04:59:19,440 --> 04:59:20,480
Do you miss them?

4999
04:59:20,480 --> 04:59:22,840
Very much, very much.

5000
04:59:22,840 --> 04:59:25,200
Pointless sentimentality.

5001
04:59:25,200 --> 04:59:26,360
Maybe that's it.

5002
04:59:28,880 --> 04:59:29,880
Yeah.

5003
04:59:30,800 --> 04:59:32,160
That's how it is.

5004
04:59:32,160 --> 04:59:33,240
Years have passed.

5005
04:59:33,240 --> 04:59:33,800
Well, pretty good.

5006
04:59:33,800 --> 04:59:35,680
Thank you for gifting five times a good chance.

5007
04:59:35,680 --> 04:59:40,960
You know, between this and this years,

5008
04:59:40,960 --> 04:59:44,400
years, years, I really, I miss them constantly.

5009
04:59:44,400 --> 04:59:46,920
And it feels like that even when they're right next to me.

5010
04:59:46,920 --> 04:59:50,960
It's just this habit, this habit of doing work

5011
04:59:50,960 --> 04:59:54,600
and focusing exclusively on work,

5012
04:59:54,600 --> 04:59:57,760
even when they're near, I miss them sometimes.

5013
04:59:57,760 --> 04:59:59,800
Meaning, well.

5014
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:10,000
Again, I don't like to complain and I'm not complaining, I chose my own path and of course I didn't choose the war, but I chose this path.

5015
05:00:10,000 --> 05:00:17,000
Well, this war, it fell on my lifetime and on the lifetime of our generation.

5016
05:00:17,000 --> 05:00:21,000
Beautiful wife and beautiful kids.

5017
05:00:21,000 --> 05:00:25,000
Your daughter is not a child anymore.

5018
05:00:25,000 --> 05:00:30,000
They've all grown up and announced for years. She's a young lady now.

5019
05:00:30,000 --> 05:00:36,000
Very much so. She really has, yeah, grown up. Yes, and all the children of Ukraine, and it's true.

5020
05:00:36,000 --> 05:00:39,000
I've said this, the children of Ukraine grew up during the war. Totally true.

5021
05:00:39,000 --> 05:00:44,000
They are all so grown up and it's so sad that childhood passed during a war.

5022
05:00:44,000 --> 05:00:53,000
Well, but nonetheless, we believe in peace. Peace will prevail anyway, 100% and my daughter and I are really great friends.

5023
05:00:53,000 --> 05:00:58,000
She's grown up now, and well, her English is better.

5024
05:00:58,000 --> 05:01:01,000
Do you get to spend a lot of time with the kids?

5025
05:01:01,000 --> 05:01:05,000
When there's time I tried to be with them to call, we talk.

5026
05:01:05,000 --> 05:01:09,000
These days there are plenty of options. We talk online, we talk in different ways. That's how it is.

5027
05:01:09,000 --> 05:01:16,000
Is it possible? Oh, gosh. I've spent, since I was 18 years old, been running businesses and running a startup.

5028
05:01:16,000 --> 05:01:23,000
I thought, you know, was a challenge, but is incomparable from, you know, and I say this because I think about how that pulled me away from the people in my life,

5029
05:01:23,000 --> 05:01:31,000
my relationships being so obsessed with business, but it's just totally incomparable to think about what that must be like to try and maintain those important relationships,

5030
05:01:31,000 --> 05:01:36,000
especially with children, when your country is being invaded and you are the leader of that country.

5031
05:01:36,000 --> 05:01:42,000
I almost can't fathom how you can find moments of presence with them, like true presence.

5032
05:01:42,000 --> 05:01:48,000
I understand how one might be able to, like, fake presence for a short period of time, but true sort of intellectual presence.

5033
05:01:48,000 --> 05:01:51,000
Is it possible?

5034
05:01:51,000 --> 05:01:55,000
Differently, but differently now, absolutely. But yes, that presence matters.

5035
05:01:55,000 --> 05:02:02,000
And those moments you mentioned, you've been in business since you were 18, and some I imagine of your relationships become secondary,

5036
05:02:02,000 --> 05:02:06,000
probably, while business always consumes your whole life. Well, at least it was that way for me.

5037
05:02:06,000 --> 05:02:13,000
And this reevaluation from this war and these images and these horrific moments definitely shows me that business is secondary.

5038
05:02:13,000 --> 05:02:20,000
Everything is secondary. These people right here. That's what matters nationally.

5039
05:02:20,000 --> 05:02:24,000
What are the five top crypto companies you'd suggest right now? What do you think about envy?

5040
05:02:24,000 --> 05:02:34,000
Most. Now that you can't get back based. These years slip away, and in these intense moments, you remember these people.

5041
05:02:34,000 --> 05:02:36,000
It's important.

5042
05:02:36,000 --> 05:02:40,000
And your wife, Lena, has been your rock through it all, I've heard you say.

5043
05:02:40,000 --> 05:02:45,000
She's been your stability throughout all of this, all of these crazy, crazy times.

5044
05:02:45,000 --> 05:02:48,000
Well, we support each other. That's true.

5045
05:02:48,000 --> 05:03:05,000
I think that I have a very smart wife, and she's so real. We have real feelings. We have love and respect.

5046
05:03:05,000 --> 05:03:08,000
I think that's very important to respect each other.

5047
05:03:08,000 --> 05:03:11,000
And you know how should I put it? People should find each other interesting.

5048
05:03:11,000 --> 05:03:15,000
I think that's the most important thing. People need to find each other interesting.

5049
05:03:15,000 --> 05:03:19,000
Yeah, and we find each other very interesting. We feel good. We feel very good.

5050
05:03:19,000 --> 05:03:23,000
Do you have the very important woman in your life? Your parents are still here.

5051
05:03:23,000 --> 05:03:27,000
But your mother, I had she calls you almost every day still.

5052
05:03:27,000 --> 05:03:30,000
It's a single day. Every day. Every single day.

5053
05:03:30,000 --> 05:03:34,000
Where does she live in Ukraine still? When your mother calls you, what does she say every day?

5054
05:03:34,000 --> 05:03:36,000
What is she asking you?

5055
05:03:36,000 --> 05:03:40,000
Her first question is, did you actually pick up?

5056
05:03:40,000 --> 05:03:45,000
She's already like that because I so often she, I look God, 12 missed calls.

5057
05:03:45,000 --> 05:03:49,000
Mom, I'm working. I tell her, 12 calls. How can you call someone so many times?

5058
05:03:49,000 --> 05:03:53,000
And she keeps dialing. She'll call you all day long until I pick up.

5059
05:03:53,000 --> 05:03:59,000
So we make sure to speak once a day. She asks how I'm feeling.

5060
05:03:59,000 --> 05:04:01,000
And is she worried about you? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

5061
05:04:01,000 --> 05:04:09,000
How are you? How are you feeling? How are the kids? Tell me, right?

5062
05:04:09,000 --> 05:04:13,000
When is Putin going to end the war?

5063
05:04:13,000 --> 05:04:18,000
And I say, Mom, we're doing everything we can.

5064
05:04:18,000 --> 05:04:23,000
And as things stand at the moment for that people don't understand what's actually going on in the ground in Ukraine,

5065
05:04:23,000 --> 05:04:28,000
where the Russian troops currently are, what life is like on a day-to-day basis if you're a Ukrainian,

5066
05:04:28,000 --> 05:04:31,000
can you explain to me which parts of Ukraine are currently occupied

5067
05:04:31,000 --> 05:04:36,000
and generally what life is like for Ukrainians at the moment?

5068
05:04:36,000 --> 05:04:42,000
Well, occupied was Crimea.

5069
05:04:42,000 --> 05:04:48,000
Then they took the Azov. That's an inland sea of ours.

5070
05:04:48,000 --> 05:04:53,000
And that's our sea. They made it. Yes. They turned it into an inland sea.

5071
05:04:53,000 --> 05:04:59,000
They took Marupo. They took Marupo. They took Berdiansk, all of the Azov.

5072
05:04:59,000 --> 05:05:01,000
catch!

5073
05:05:00,000 --> 05:05:01,840
is a city on the Black Sea.

5074
05:05:01,840 --> 05:05:04,080
They made it so we can't get out.

5075
05:05:04,080 --> 05:05:08,680
Next day, Oleshki is where right now people and children

5076
05:05:08,680 --> 05:05:10,720
are trapped without food, without anything.

5077
05:05:10,720 --> 05:05:11,720
They won't let them through.

5078
05:05:11,720 --> 05:05:13,040
Right now, we are working to unblock it.

5079
05:05:13,040 --> 05:05:16,480
There were 2,500 people left.

5080
05:05:16,480 --> 05:05:19,440
Her son, we fought to take back the major city of her son.

5081
05:05:19,440 --> 05:05:21,120
We reclaimed it.

5082
05:05:21,120 --> 05:05:23,560
Her son is split by the Nitro River.

5083
05:05:23,560 --> 05:05:24,600
Our people live on one bank.

5084
05:05:24,600 --> 05:05:25,960
The enemy is on the other bank.

5085
05:05:25,960 --> 05:05:28,360
And that's why they shall help her son, and the Parisian.

5086
05:05:28,360 --> 05:05:30,200
She's also under under our control.

5087
05:05:30,200 --> 05:05:35,520
So they took Crimea, Donetsk region, Lujan's region.

5088
05:05:35,520 --> 05:05:41,320
They couldn't take like her son this part, this part is ours.

5089
05:05:41,320 --> 05:05:47,440
So the map is just upside down from Harkif here.

5090
05:05:47,440 --> 05:05:50,280
This is what they call Lujan's cobblasts right here.

5091
05:05:50,280 --> 05:05:53,080
This is our cremators like this right here.

5092
05:05:53,080 --> 05:05:53,880
They took Pianakia.

5093
05:05:53,880 --> 05:05:55,000
They took Matifta.

5094
05:05:55,000 --> 05:05:56,560
The net's cobblasts right here.

5095
05:05:56,560 --> 05:05:57,680
The Parisia's ours.

5096
05:05:57,680 --> 05:06:07,120
So basically, people can see that all of this is roughly--

5097
05:06:07,120 --> 05:06:09,600
sorry, I'm not very good at drawing.

5098
05:06:09,600 --> 05:06:18,640
All of this is roughly 18% of our territory.

5099
05:06:18,640 --> 05:06:21,120
That's roughly it, roughly.

5100
05:06:21,120 --> 05:06:23,680
Because their maps are one thing, to be honest.

5101
05:06:23,680 --> 05:06:26,560
They sell one story to their people.

5102
05:06:26,560 --> 05:06:28,720
We have different maps, we believe we're right.

5103
05:06:28,720 --> 05:06:31,680
Well, naturally, they have their own approach

5104
05:06:31,680 --> 05:06:33,760
to talking with society and presenting information.

5105
05:06:33,760 --> 05:06:36,480
But roughly, that's what it is.

5106
05:06:36,480 --> 05:06:39,360
And they're attacking via missiles and drones

5107
05:06:39,360 --> 05:06:41,640
other parts of Ukraine, constantly, right?

5108
05:06:41,640 --> 05:06:43,160
Completely, yes, yes.

5109
05:06:43,160 --> 05:06:44,840
See, they're focused on--

5110
05:06:44,840 --> 05:06:46,480
well, honestly, you could point everywhere here.

5111
05:06:46,480 --> 05:06:48,160
They've already started today.

5112
05:06:48,160 --> 05:06:49,720
Right here, they killed people in Lutsk.

5113
05:06:49,720 --> 05:06:51,880
That's the western part of our country.

5114
05:06:51,880 --> 05:06:53,000
Right here, a missile struck.

5115
05:06:53,000 --> 05:06:56,600
And they're hitting Kiev, Poluki, right here.

5116
05:06:56,600 --> 05:06:58,600
We went with the British secretary,

5117
05:06:58,600 --> 05:07:00,120
saw 23 people killed.

5118
05:07:00,120 --> 05:07:04,000
Jitomiya is under constant shelling.

5119
05:07:04,000 --> 05:07:06,440
Well, Rivnay has fewer strikes.

5120
05:07:06,440 --> 05:07:08,800
Lviv, this part--

5121
05:07:08,800 --> 05:07:10,360
Donald Trump couldn't do a map like this

5122
05:07:10,360 --> 05:07:12,120
with the United States, even, by the way.

5123
05:07:12,120 --> 05:07:13,080
Strikes here.

5124
05:07:13,080 --> 05:07:16,280
This part, to be honest, all of this part is far away.

5125
05:07:16,280 --> 05:07:19,040
You can draw a perfect map of the Middle East.

5126
05:07:19,040 --> 05:07:21,000
The line of occupation from the contact line

5127
05:07:21,000 --> 05:07:22,360
and from the Russian Federation.

5128
05:07:22,360 --> 05:07:24,160
So obviously, the distance is great,

5129
05:07:24,160 --> 05:07:27,120
which is why there are no massive strikes there.

5130
05:07:27,120 --> 05:07:29,360
Yes, well, that's roughly it.

5131
05:07:29,360 --> 05:07:31,200
What are they trying to accomplish?

5132
05:07:31,200 --> 05:07:33,040
Adessa is being shell.

5133
05:07:33,040 --> 05:07:34,640
Lviv, what do they want?

5134
05:07:34,640 --> 05:07:38,640
To pull out of the east of our country so that Putin--

5135
05:07:38,640 --> 05:07:40,840
and the east is-- here's what he wants.

5136
05:07:40,840 --> 05:07:42,200
He wants-- basically, he wants to take

5137
05:07:42,200 --> 05:07:44,120
the city of Zaparesia, but he can't.

5138
05:07:44,120 --> 05:07:45,240
That's a target for him.

5139
05:07:45,240 --> 05:07:47,880
Zaparesia and Herzon and Nikolayev, all targets.

5140
05:07:47,880 --> 05:07:49,600
But he doesn't say that.

5141
05:07:49,600 --> 05:07:50,320
He doesn't say it.

5142
05:07:50,320 --> 05:07:53,280
But after all, we liberated those cities.

5143
05:07:53,280 --> 05:07:55,200
We liberated Herzon.

5144
05:07:55,200 --> 05:07:57,000
But have you heard directly from them--

5145
05:07:57,000 --> 05:07:57,520
Right.

5146
05:07:57,520 --> 05:07:59,600
--as to what their demands are, what they say that they want,

5147
05:07:59,600 --> 05:08:01,800
to stop launching missiles?

5148
05:08:01,800 --> 05:08:03,800
Yes, they basically say, right here.

5149
05:08:03,800 --> 05:08:06,200
This entire piece.

5150
05:08:06,200 --> 05:08:08,160
They want to take pretty much the east of Ukraine.

5151
05:08:08,160 --> 05:08:09,160
They want-- yes, the east.

5152
05:08:09,160 --> 05:08:11,160
That means they want Slaviansk.

5153
05:08:11,160 --> 05:08:11,800
Well, these are key.

5154
05:08:11,800 --> 05:08:14,800
Slaviansk, Kramatorsk, Drushkivka.

5155
05:08:14,800 --> 05:08:17,480
And that leads right out into the Nipropetrosk region

5156
05:08:17,480 --> 05:08:19,960
into Pavlohrad, Nipropetrosk.

5157
05:08:19,960 --> 05:08:21,160
These are the most creviri.

5158
05:08:21,160 --> 05:08:22,280
He's my hometown.

5159
05:08:22,280 --> 05:08:25,960
Nikopul is an industrial hub, an engineering hub,

5160
05:08:25,960 --> 05:08:27,000
a manufacturing hub.

5161
05:08:27,000 --> 05:08:30,160
It's the economy of our country.

5162
05:08:30,160 --> 05:08:32,760
And so it's very dangerous, because if you surrender this part

5163
05:08:32,760 --> 05:08:36,480
to them, and this is heavily reinforced defense

5164
05:08:36,480 --> 05:08:41,840
of our nation, right here, like this.

5165
05:08:41,840 --> 05:08:44,840
And if we hand these cities of ours over to them,

5166
05:08:44,840 --> 05:08:46,480
then the risk is huge.

5167
05:08:46,480 --> 05:08:47,960
If he wants to keep going, he could

5168
05:08:47,960 --> 05:08:53,840
seize a huge number of our cities, if he pushes further.

5169
05:08:53,840 --> 05:08:54,680
And the risk is real.

5170
05:08:54,680 --> 05:08:55,600
Nobody guarantees anything.

5171
05:08:55,600 --> 05:08:56,120
You understand?

5172
05:08:56,120 --> 05:08:58,240
Everyone talks about security guarantees.

5173
05:08:58,240 --> 05:08:58,760
And we're open.

5174
05:08:58,760 --> 05:08:59,800
We're completely open to that.

5175
05:08:59,800 --> 05:09:03,000
We say, well, OK, security guarantees, let's do NATO.

5176
05:09:03,000 --> 05:09:04,360
Well, NATO, the Russians.

5177
05:09:04,360 --> 05:09:06,760
Well, again, they keep sending signals to the Russians,

5178
05:09:06,760 --> 05:09:09,520
because you have to give security guarantees.

5179
05:09:09,520 --> 05:09:11,760
On top of that, like I told you, the biggest compromise

5180
05:09:11,760 --> 05:09:13,840
with so many dead, the biggest compromise we're already

5181
05:09:13,840 --> 05:09:15,280
making is a ceasefire.

5182
05:09:15,280 --> 05:09:16,400
Let's just stop this war.

5183
05:09:16,400 --> 05:09:18,040
But they want us to pull out even further.

5184
05:09:18,040 --> 05:09:20,400
And if we pull out, where are the security guarantees,

5185
05:09:20,400 --> 05:09:23,320
aside from the fact that it's unfair?

5186
05:09:23,320 --> 05:09:25,760
You talked about the barbaric nature

5187
05:09:25,760 --> 05:09:27,800
of how they've treated Ukrainians.

5188
05:09:27,800 --> 05:09:29,200
Are you at all concerned that they might

5189
05:09:29,200 --> 05:09:31,680
escalate to using more horrific weapons,

5190
05:09:31,680 --> 05:09:33,840
like nuclear weapons at any point?

5191
05:09:33,840 --> 05:09:37,320
Has that ever crossed your mind?

5192
05:09:37,320 --> 05:09:39,320
Well, it crosses everyone's mind after what they've done,

5193
05:09:39,320 --> 05:09:41,320
that they might do something worse.

5194
05:09:41,320 --> 05:09:44,200
But as of today, well, I don't think

5195
05:09:44,200 --> 05:09:47,120
they'll take the risk of using nuclear weapons,

5196
05:09:47,120 --> 05:09:50,000
because then I think they won't-- definitely,

5197
05:09:50,000 --> 05:09:52,200
I'm sure they won't have any allies left,

5198
05:09:52,200 --> 05:09:55,760
including countries like America, China-- well, excuse me,

5199
05:09:55,760 --> 05:09:59,080
but that's far too dangerous even for nuclear powers.

5200
05:09:59,080 --> 05:10:00,080
That means if one country...

5201
05:10:00,000 --> 05:10:03,540
can do it then if there's a conflict somewhere else on another continent in

5202
05:10:03,540 --> 05:10:06,520
another theater I don't know the Middle East whatever that means if a nuclear

5203
05:10:06,520 --> 05:10:10,080
weapon is used once it might be used a second and a third time so I don't think

5204
05:10:10,080 --> 05:10:16,140
Putin will risk nuclear weapons but then again we're dealing with look we're

5205
05:10:16,140 --> 05:10:23,560
dealing with a man and with a system that until the end of his days will hold on

5206
05:10:23,560 --> 05:10:29,520
to him and he to it because only when his life ends will he leave the Kremlin

5207
05:10:29,520 --> 05:10:34,640
and hand over well physically hand over naturally transfer power I'm more than

5208
05:10:34,640 --> 05:10:39,840
certain of that regarding the current situation this week with with Trump with

5209
05:10:39,840 --> 05:10:43,440
Russia and this deal that's been done from my understanding because there's an

5210
05:10:43,440 --> 05:10:48,140
energy crisis globally Trump has now done a deal with Russia for diesel he

5211
05:10:48,140 --> 05:10:53,080
then asked you not to attack any energy infrastructure in Russia no there's a

5212
05:10:53,080 --> 05:10:56,440
video that you have here of him describing this which a lot of people

5213
05:10:56,440 --> 05:11:00,280
have have now seen I'll play it I look at it differently Zalinsky could have

5214
05:11:00,280 --> 05:11:05,200
settled this war many times he chooses not to very difficult it's a war that

5215
05:11:05,200 --> 05:11:08,120
should have never been started about what president of the election work rigged

5216
05:11:08,120 --> 05:11:11,840
I would have been president and that war would have never started we said what

5217
05:11:11,840 --> 05:11:15,680
does this sound AI the fuck you can do whatever you want to rush it don't hit

5218
05:11:15,680 --> 05:11:19,840
the refineries because that's a word why he's removed it actually probably is and

5219
05:11:19,840 --> 05:11:24,520
he's removed the sound of all of the bees or the random background shit so it

5220
05:11:24,520 --> 05:11:28,800
probably is an AI voice oh my god they so you don't have to hear the fucking

5221
05:11:28,800 --> 05:11:33,320
helicopter every fucking time oh okay okay you know what I'm here for it I

5222
05:11:33,320 --> 05:11:38,440
support it a problem that's gone and he wants to make problems for the world he

5223
05:11:38,440 --> 05:11:42,560
wants to make problems for our farmers our wrenches with diesel fuel so let's

5224
05:11:42,560 --> 05:11:46,880
Russia supplies a large portion of the diesel fuel throughout the world and we

5225
05:11:46,880 --> 05:11:50,240
told no do whatever you want but don't hit the diesel fuel because there's a big

5226
05:11:50,240 --> 05:11:53,760
problem big Jordan and what does he do he goes and hits the diesel fuel do what

5227
05:11:53,760 --> 05:11:57,200
you want don't hit refiner plenty of talking and he went out and he hits and

5228
05:11:57,200 --> 05:12:01,080
he's not gonna affect our farmers and he's not gonna affect our ranches and he's

5229
05:12:01,080 --> 05:12:06,080
not gonna affect the rest of the world so we he's better damn well stop and in

5230
05:12:06,080 --> 05:12:10,560
that he says that he thinks the Ukraine needs a new president now and first of

5231
05:12:10,560 --> 05:12:16,000
all diesel exports have no impact the volume of diesel exports is so

5232
05:12:16,000 --> 05:12:20,520
negligible from Russia that it has zero impact on prices in the United States of

5233
05:12:20,520 --> 05:12:26,440
America that is totally false information that's first second it makes no sense

5234
05:12:26,440 --> 05:12:29,160
for us to strike Russia's energy infrastructure we retaliate because they

5235
05:12:29,160 --> 05:12:32,800
strike our energy infrastructure we've spoken a lot about this the Russians

5236
05:12:32,800 --> 05:12:38,040
hit our energy grid our people live without power we don't have oil gas diesel

5237
05:12:38,040 --> 05:12:42,080
and so on that hurts them what hurts us is electricity they hit our electricity

5238
05:12:42,080 --> 05:12:46,960
we strike back at their diesel they make money on diesel and spend it on weapons

5239
05:12:46,960 --> 05:12:51,560
my offer excuse me but I don't need this I've always told President Trump

5240
05:12:51,560 --> 05:12:56,560
broker and energy ceasefire at least on energy at least let's give people light

5241
05:12:56,560 --> 05:13:00,160
and good for the Russians they'll sell their oil if they want to if that's what

5242
05:13:00,160 --> 05:13:03,320
you need but President Trump can't reach an agreement with Putin on this

5243
05:13:03,320 --> 05:13:08,720
Putin refuses him an energy ceasefire and so the president decided to pin this

5244
05:13:08,720 --> 05:13:12,760
problem not on Putin but on me explaining to his people that because of

5245
05:13:12,760 --> 05:13:17,920
this diesel prices in America are going up that is completely untrue and I don't

5246
05:13:17,920 --> 05:13:21,400
understand I have a relationship with Trump and I think it's wrong and

5247
05:13:21,400 --> 05:13:25,560
unacceptable that he pins Russia's aggression and Russia's killings on me

5248
05:13:25,560 --> 05:13:29,720
he is shifting the context and that's not fair and that's why I honestly said

5249
05:13:29,720 --> 05:13:33,840
that's unfair ceasefire he says it's not what they can't work it out well if you

5250
05:13:33,840 --> 05:13:37,280
can't work it out but you need diesel though again I think this is just

5251
05:13:37,280 --> 05:13:41,200
deflecting the focus away from Iran from what's happening in the Middle East the

5252
05:13:41,200 --> 05:13:44,440
entire volume is blocked over there that's exactly where nothing is working out

5253
05:13:44,440 --> 05:13:49,040
energy the Strait of Hormuz is blocked that's the root of the problem but

5254
05:13:49,040 --> 05:13:52,960
everything gets shifted on to us and I made the target as the leader of our

5255
05:13:52,960 --> 05:13:58,720
country so I said okay you can't force Putin to stop the war and make an energy

5256
05:13:58,720 --> 05:14:04,720
truce give me air defense missiles I won't fire at anyone I'll protect our

5257
05:14:04,720 --> 05:14:08,140
energy sector so where am I being unfair in what way I asked him give us

5258
05:14:08,140 --> 05:14:13,760
missiles not for free again not even for free Europeans are funding this

5259
05:14:13,760 --> 05:14:17,560
funding all of it there's an agreement but he but they won't give them to us

5260
05:14:17,560 --> 05:14:22,040
they say we can't they give and have given everything to the Middle East look

5261
05:14:22,040 --> 05:14:27,920
it's just kind of well it's just like it's unfair yeah to the Middle East

5262
05:14:27,920 --> 05:14:33,360
Patriot missiles with Putin a diesel deal I'm expected not to respond to an

5263
05:14:33,360 --> 05:14:37,360
energy attack on inside Ukraine and diesel prices are rising in America

5264
05:14:37,360 --> 05:14:42,040
energy attack but it's unfair attacks on energy producing infrastructure oh I see

5265
05:14:42,040 --> 05:14:48,560
now and you need a different president well diesel prices I guarantee you a

5266
05:14:48,560 --> 05:14:53,120
hundred percent diesel prices don't depend on the volume that Russia sells

5267
05:14:53,120 --> 05:14:57,560
they just don't and about 76% of Ukrainians say they wouldn't want an

5268
05:14:57,560 --> 05:15:00,000
election now according to some recent surveys as well my last question

5269
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:05,760
to you, Mr. President is, is there a realistic path to the end of this war? And what does

5270
05:15:05,760 --> 05:15:13,560
that look like? A realistic path. Trump can bring Putin to the negotiating table

5271
05:15:13,560 --> 05:15:17,760
very easily. Yeah, with so many different ways. Because he moves to the way he talks

5272
05:15:17,760 --> 05:15:22,600
about me. President Trump, he needs to adopt that kind of rhetoric about Putin.

5273
05:15:22,600 --> 05:15:27,200
Well, why do you think he's not? I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. He's got sanctions

5274
05:15:27,200 --> 05:15:31,640
on his desk. It wasn't him voting. Congress voted for strong sanctions. He can do it.

5275
05:15:31,640 --> 05:15:35,520
He could. I don't know why. Maybe they have a special relationship. Maybe something else.

5276
05:15:35,520 --> 05:15:40,720
I can't tell you. I don't know everything. I can only guess some economic deals and

5277
05:15:40,720 --> 05:15:43,320
so on, an old rely. I don't know. I don't want to.

5278
05:15:43,320 --> 05:15:46,080
Well, the midterms are coming up and I think he might be a little bit concerned about energy

5279
05:15:46,080 --> 05:15:56,120
prices in America, more so than maybe Ukraine. Yeah. Well, look, diesel prices. I give you

5280
05:15:56,120 --> 05:16:03,960
a 100%. Diesel prices don't depend on the volume. Russia sells. They don't. Americans

5281
05:16:03,960 --> 05:16:10,840
export energy resources. Americans energy exports aren't banned for Americans. American

5282
05:16:10,840 --> 05:16:15,720
companies export. It's interesting. Why do American companies export energy? Well, because

5283
05:16:15,720 --> 05:16:20,080
how can the president of the United States ban private sector exports? Well, I don't think

5284
05:16:20,080 --> 05:16:29,400
he can. And why would he? He sells. And money comes in. Well, just, well, you know, how

5285
05:16:29,400 --> 05:16:37,360
life time, you know, all secrets, all mysteries always come to light. It just takes time.

5286
05:16:37,360 --> 05:16:43,400
Time is definitely on the side of those who are open and ready for honest dialogue and

5287
05:16:43,400 --> 05:16:49,920
fight. Yes, which means time will be on our side. Make what do you lost words? You laugh.

5288
05:16:49,920 --> 05:16:56,920
I hope that it's not lost words. Lost words today. Lost words today. You know, half of

5289
05:16:56,920 --> 05:17:04,040
our audience are in America. I wish America, which finds itself in a very tough situation.

5290
05:17:04,040 --> 05:17:10,200
I believe because the world has gone crazy. What's happening with the Russians, with Iran,

5291
05:17:10,200 --> 05:17:16,480
the fact that people want blood, people want wars. I wish America would stay a great nation,

5292
05:17:16,480 --> 05:17:23,880
be strong, be peaceful, have the chance. Someone works. Someone wants to be home with the kids,

5293
05:17:23,880 --> 05:17:30,560
pray, have a family, a family dinner. I wish America tranquility, peace, and we're grateful

5294
05:17:30,560 --> 05:17:35,920
for everything America has done for Ukraine. We won't forget this.

5295
05:17:35,920 --> 05:17:39,740
And why do you wear a suit, president? Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I know you've

5296
05:17:39,740 --> 05:17:42,240
had a really rough weekend. It's been very tough. So I really appreciate you taking the

5297
05:17:42,240 --> 05:17:45,600
time. I've had everything going on with Starlink and the internet and all the challenges.

5298
05:17:45,600 --> 05:17:50,680
So normal. Yeah. And we really do wish you the best. We really wish you the best. Yes.

5299
05:17:50,680 --> 05:17:55,520
And I was happy to see you and to have a dialogue. We had good dialogue. I think that's it. We

5300
05:17:55,520 --> 05:18:00,400
spoke very good. So thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so

5301
05:18:00,400 --> 05:18:04,040
much. YouTube have this new crazy algorithm where they know exactly what video you would

5302
05:18:04,040 --> 05:18:07,880
like to watch next based on AI and all of your viewing behavior. It's definitely not that

5303
05:18:07,880 --> 05:18:11,620
it's that this absolutely not perfect video for you. It's different for everybody looking

5304
05:18:11,620 --> 05:18:26,440
right now. Check this video out. I bet you you might love it. Fuck that. Well, what do

5305
05:18:26,440 --> 05:18:33,720
you think? What do you want me to say, man? He seems like a good guy. Really? Yeah. How

5306
05:18:33,720 --> 05:18:41,520
many more dresses are we going to buy his wife? I hope more. 100. Really? Let's buy

5307
05:18:41,520 --> 05:18:50,040
in a dress. Really? Or some boots or some pants, you know, whatever she wants. It's

5308
05:18:50,040 --> 05:18:56,600
on me. What do you guys go over this morning? Today was pretty slop filled. Slop Saturday.

5309
05:18:56,600 --> 05:19:02,880
I don't usually stream on Saturdays. Oh, you know, I need to start writing it down because

5310
05:19:02,880 --> 05:19:06,320
I feel like it's it's like when your parents ask like, Oh, what did you do at school today?

5311
05:19:06,320 --> 05:19:11,360
It's like, well, fuck. I don't remember what the fuck I did. Oh, convenient. I remember

5312
05:19:11,360 --> 05:19:22,120
what the fuck I did this morning. I'm sure I learned something. I always learn. Holy fucking

5313
05:19:22,120 --> 05:19:41,080
truth. Link see you go through. I do. But I don't did I get one today? I'm not coming

5314
05:19:41,080 --> 05:19:44,440
after Twitch. I'm not coming after Twitch support. Is he watching another Kilo video?

5315
05:19:44,440 --> 05:19:51,960
Is that what this is or? Oh my God. Wait, is this this one? Yesterday? Yesterday? Is this

5316
05:19:51,960 --> 05:19:56,960
top left? Okay. Or I'm coming after Dan Clancy. I will make your name synonymous. Then we watch

5317
05:19:56,960 --> 05:19:59,720
I feel like we watch a lot of his songs from yesterday. See you.

5318
05:20:00,000 --> 05:20:03,980
>> Change when it's time has come.

5319
05:20:03,980 --> 05:20:06,140
>> [CROSSTALK]

5320
05:20:06,140 --> 05:20:08,260
>> You have a chance to do it again.

5321
05:20:08,260 --> 05:20:08,820
>> Uh-oh.

5322
05:20:08,820 --> 05:20:12,180
>> So I'm asking you right now, are you fired up?

5323
05:20:12,180 --> 05:20:13,940
>> Why is making things one percent better?

5324
05:20:13,940 --> 05:20:15,940
>> [CROSSTALK]

5325
05:20:15,940 --> 05:20:16,920
>> I'll do the same meeting.

5326
05:20:16,920 --> 05:20:19,500
>> I'll do this, are you Senator?

5327
05:20:19,500 --> 05:20:22,820
Let's get on to the path of making this country better.

5328
05:20:22,820 --> 05:20:26,020
I love you, Detroit, God bless you.

5329
05:20:26,020 --> 05:20:28,580
God bless the United States of America.

5330
05:20:28,580 --> 05:20:31,020
>> I genuinely think- >> Fuck who said it?

5331
05:20:31,020 --> 05:20:33,380
>> If Obama- >> I think it was Sir Longwell said like,

5332
05:20:33,380 --> 05:20:37,500
was we got to move on from having Obama come and bail us out of shit?

5333
05:20:37,500 --> 05:20:38,580
>> Yeah.

5334
05:20:38,580 --> 05:20:42,060
>> Oh, God.

5335
05:20:42,060 --> 05:20:44,460
>> Could you imagine?

5336
05:20:44,460 --> 05:20:50,500
Could you imagine a bar duck no bummer who's just sitting there fucking

5337
05:20:50,500 --> 05:20:53,380
preaching the gospel of socialism?

5338
05:20:53,380 --> 05:20:55,060
This is a big deal, by the way.

5339
05:20:55,060 --> 05:20:57,780
Before people go, my God, Obama, a drone king or whatever.

5340
05:20:57,780 --> 05:21:01,340
This is- >> Why not use it?

5341
05:21:01,340 --> 05:21:02,540
I'm not saying not to use it.

5342
05:21:02,540 --> 05:21:06,100
I'm just saying we need to be able to stand up on our own two feet without having Obama

5343
05:21:06,100 --> 05:21:10,340
come in every fucking election to bail us out.

5344
05:21:10,340 --> 05:21:12,060
>> True.

5345
05:21:12,060 --> 05:21:13,060
Where is that?

5346
05:21:13,060 --> 05:21:15,100
>> Fresh new democratic leadership.

5347
05:21:15,100 --> 05:21:16,460
>> It is here.

5348
05:21:16,460 --> 05:21:17,460
They're here.

5349
05:21:17,460 --> 05:21:19,220
Have you not seen fucking awesome?

5350
05:21:19,220 --> 05:21:20,220
>> Awesome.

5351
05:21:20,220 --> 05:21:21,220
Really?

5352
05:21:21,220 --> 05:21:22,220
>> So a senator from Georgia.

5353
05:21:22,220 --> 05:21:23,220
That's it.

5354
05:21:23,220 --> 05:21:24,220
>> Obama is going to be awesome.

5355
05:21:24,220 --> 05:21:25,220
>> Yeah, you think she's going to be the one?

5356
05:21:25,220 --> 05:21:34,040
>> Uh, no, apparently the Ben Shapiro, not Ben Shapiro, um, Josh Shapiro, Josh Shapiro.

5357
05:21:34,040 --> 05:21:36,940
Apparently these fucking loved by both sides in Pennsylvania.

5358
05:21:36,940 --> 05:21:38,780
We don't watch enough of him.

5359
05:21:38,780 --> 05:21:39,780
Who was the other guy?

5360
05:21:39,780 --> 05:21:40,780
>> Hold on.

5361
05:21:40,780 --> 05:21:41,620
We got a big video entry.

5362
05:21:41,620 --> 05:21:48,140
>> Coming out of my cage and I've been doing just fine, God, I gotta be down because I

5363
05:21:48,140 --> 05:21:49,140
want it all.

5364
05:21:49,140 --> 05:21:59,380
We just ripped the meme video from a subreddit, I've already seen this.

5365
05:21:59,380 --> 05:22:07,620
>> Why are you sarking Ethan here?

5366
05:22:07,620 --> 05:22:20,420
>> It's different, I've remade it.

5367
05:22:20,420 --> 05:22:21,420
Really?

5368
05:22:21,420 --> 05:22:22,420
>> What's the same to me?

5369
05:22:22,420 --> 05:22:23,420
>> Bitch.

5370
05:22:23,420 --> 05:22:24,420
>> Really?

5371
05:22:24,420 --> 05:22:28,860
>> That's his number one Ethan Hader, is that true?

5372
05:22:28,860 --> 05:22:31,860
>> He was linking a lot of snark.

5373
05:22:31,860 --> 05:22:34,180
I don't know how he knew it all.

5374
05:22:34,180 --> 05:22:38,100
>> Well, that's not good.

5375
05:22:38,100 --> 05:22:47,540
>> Yeah, let's get rid of him.

5376
05:22:47,540 --> 05:23:03,060
>> That's me, there was a boy through childbirth.

5377
05:23:03,060 --> 05:23:11,260
>> They deliver you two beautiful children, and then you go and cheat on them.

5378
05:23:11,260 --> 05:23:14,620
>> Okay, we got big Hader energy here.

5379
05:23:14,620 --> 05:23:18,620
>> Big.

5380
05:23:18,620 --> 05:23:20,140
>> Are you pumped for San Antonio?

5381
05:23:20,140 --> 05:23:21,140
>> I'm so pumped.

5382
05:23:21,140 --> 05:23:22,140
>> Digital ground.

5383
05:23:22,140 --> 05:23:23,140
>> Digital ground.

5384
05:23:23,140 --> 05:23:24,140
>> Yeah.

5385
05:23:24,140 --> 05:23:31,180
October 31st, November 1st, November 3rd for the election stream.

5386
05:23:31,180 --> 05:23:33,780
Is anybody else you want to invite to that?

5387
05:23:33,780 --> 05:23:36,300
>> I don't know.

5388
05:23:36,300 --> 05:23:37,300
We should talk about that.

5389
05:23:37,300 --> 05:23:38,300
>> Austrian.

5390
05:23:38,300 --> 05:23:39,300
>> Yeah, we should.

5391
05:23:39,300 --> 05:23:40,300
>> When do you want to?

5392
05:23:40,300 --> 05:23:41,300
>> People get real mad.

5393
05:23:41,300 --> 05:23:42,300
>> When do you want to?

5394
05:23:42,300 --> 05:23:43,300
>> We do it tonight.

5395
05:23:43,300 --> 05:23:44,300
>> Okay.

5396
05:23:44,300 --> 05:23:47,340
>> And then P.J. asked a question in our group chat.

5397
05:23:47,340 --> 05:23:51,780
>> Yeah, I'll respond to that tonight.

5398
05:23:51,780 --> 05:23:53,340
>> It's always tonight, huh?

5399
05:23:53,340 --> 05:23:55,500
>> Never now.

5400
05:23:55,500 --> 05:23:56,500
Never tomorrow.

5401
05:23:56,500 --> 05:23:57,500
>> Tomorrow.

5402
05:23:57,500 --> 05:23:58,500
Tomorrow.

5403
05:23:58,500 --> 05:24:04,380
>> Shut the fuck up.

5404
05:24:04,380 --> 05:24:08,300
>> Is Amrath coming to the selection stream?

5405
05:24:08,300 --> 05:24:09,300
We'll see.

5406
05:24:09,300 --> 05:24:15,140
>> I don't think so, guys.

5407
05:24:15,140 --> 05:24:17,740
>> It's an early morning of February.

5408
05:24:17,740 --> 05:24:18,740
>> Okay.

5409
05:24:18,740 --> 05:24:19,740
>> Have this for a second.

5410
05:24:19,740 --> 05:24:21,740
>> February 24th, 2022.

5411
05:24:21,740 --> 05:24:22,740
>> Wait.

5412
05:24:22,740 --> 05:24:23,740
Can we do that?

5413
05:24:23,740 --> 05:24:24,740
>> Just minutes after the president of Russia.

5414
05:24:24,740 --> 05:24:26,820
>> Yeah, pause and we'll do donuts, and I'll talk.

5415
05:24:26,820 --> 05:24:27,820
That was way more important.

5416
05:24:27,820 --> 05:24:57,820
Peppo Turtle A-H-D-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A

5417
05:24:57,820 --> 05:24:58,660
- You really liked it.

5418
05:24:58,660 --> 05:24:59,480
- Hey, Steve.

5419
05:24:59,480 --> 05:25:00,480
- Hit the video to watch.

5420
05:25:00,000 --> 05:25:06,720
How stupid do you feel you realize when he plays videos he just gets up and leaves right and he doesn't even listen to any of that

5421
05:25:06,720 --> 05:25:13,520
You're you must feel like the dumbest DGG ever man minus five dollars, and you should feel sad and bad and dumb and

5422
05:25:14,880 --> 05:25:19,680
Understand that when he leaves he's going to come. Yeah, those are some bars, baby

5423
05:25:20,320 --> 05:25:24,800
patreon.com/thebluewave join for a DGG chat flair slash

5424
05:25:25,600 --> 05:25:27,600
to be included in the credits and

5425
05:25:28,160 --> 05:25:32,800
To help us out in funding the show and all of the people were paying it's five dollars

5426
05:25:32,800 --> 05:25:36,480
They're just one tier so we're not screwing you over it's just five dollars

5427
05:25:37,120 --> 05:25:39,120
Reminder patreon.com/thebluewave

5428
05:25:39,760 --> 05:25:45,760
patreon.com/thebluewave and one more time patreon.com/thebluewave the next five joiners

5429
05:25:45,760 --> 05:25:50,160
I will call out and thank on stream and send you video of you know

5430
05:25:53,920 --> 05:26:01,760
TPS will shall sash u2 be e l reg bf3 bez s nam s

5431
05:26:02,320 --> 05:26:07,680
five x b d g tave eight five dash eight swar g

5432
05:26:10,880 --> 05:26:16,640
I swear to god if I get spam filtered one more time i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna uh

5433
05:26:47,200 --> 05:26:52,080
Aristotle Peppa to to to to to to turtle every day of my lee lee lee life and

5434
05:26:53,560 --> 05:26:55,560
I think

5435
05:26:55,600 --> 05:26:57,600
Thank you Wade

5436
05:26:57,780 --> 05:27:00,480
Jason Tyler Brandon and Angelo

5437
05:27:01,520 --> 05:27:07,740
Thank you five for joining the new patreon patreon.com slash the blue wave. Thank you very much

5438
05:27:08,680 --> 05:27:38,680
- Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I, I, I,

5439
05:27:38,680 --> 05:27:43,440
vote and let the Democrats steal my vote. I vote straight take a Democrat, but I will

5440
05:27:43,440 --> 05:28:06,560
not let them defame the holy election day.

5441
05:28:06,560 --> 05:28:20,080
Now that I got my 25 cent raise, I can donate more to dear leader.

5442
05:28:20,080 --> 05:28:26,640
The problem with lefties is that they errander post-mortarism. Post-mortarism debunks most

5443
05:28:26,640 --> 05:28:44,640
of their rhetoric and worldview artistural peptertal.

5444
05:28:44,640 --> 05:28:49,640
And in the kind of luring surely the Baucher, Aristotle Peppertetal.

5445
05:28:49,640 --> 05:28:51,640
Aristotle Peppertetal.

5446
05:28:51,640 --> 05:29:01,640
[mumbling]

5447
05:29:01,640 --> 05:29:06,640
[mumbling]

5448
05:29:21,640 --> 05:29:23,640
[farting]

5449
05:29:23,640 --> 05:29:24,640
[mumbling]

5450
05:29:24,640 --> 05:29:28,640
I hope he dies shitting out broken glass out of his asshole.

5451
05:29:28,640 --> 05:29:29,640
[laughing]

5452
05:29:29,640 --> 05:29:32,640
Thank you, sleepy Joe Biden. Thank you to

5453
05:29:32,640 --> 05:29:36,640
Bassavic, H. Dub, Dwayne, and Twek Ital

5454
05:29:36,640 --> 05:29:38,640
for joining the Patreon.

5455
05:29:38,640 --> 05:29:39,640
Patreon.com/TheBlueWave

5456
05:29:39,640 --> 05:29:42,640
We're getting a huge amount of joining right now.

5457
05:29:42,640 --> 05:29:44,640
And reminder, this goes to me, Destiny, and

5458
05:29:44,640 --> 05:29:46,640
I'm really important.

5459
05:29:46,640 --> 05:29:48,640
And it helps us do IRL stuff.

5460
05:29:52,640 --> 05:29:55,640
Mr. Mooten, I think you should have

5461
05:29:55,640 --> 05:29:57,640
Janice Griffith knockdoors with you.

5462
05:29:57,640 --> 05:29:59,640
Would be the most peak content and

5463
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:01,000
Drive engagement.

5464
05:30:02,160 --> 05:30:03,040
It would be big.

5465
05:30:04,120 --> 05:30:09,360
Mr. Muffin top, long time no speak, pretty boy, I restore total, paper total.

5466
05:30:09,520 --> 05:30:10,480
Whoa!

5467
05:30:11,320 --> 05:30:12,320
Whoa!

5468
05:30:23,720 --> 05:30:24,440
Is that it?

5469
05:30:29,560 --> 05:30:30,240
That's it.

5470
05:30:32,360 --> 05:30:33,160
Alarma.

5471
05:30:36,600 --> 05:30:38,360
We're out of, we're out of donos.

5472
05:30:41,800 --> 05:30:42,920
I could replay them all.

5473
05:30:44,680 --> 05:30:45,920
Or you could pay up.

5474
05:30:49,600 --> 05:30:52,880
Thank you to Marshall for the $5 to the Patreon.

5475
05:30:52,880 --> 05:30:54,720
Patreon.com/thebluewave.

5476
05:30:54,720 --> 05:30:55,960
That's very nice of you all.

5477
05:30:55,960 --> 05:30:56,360
Thank you.

5478
05:30:56,360 --> 05:30:59,000
That was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

5479
05:30:59,640 --> 05:31:04,440
8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20.

5480
05:31:04,440 --> 05:31:07,720
Shut the fuck up with your stupid fucking links in donos.

5481
05:31:07,720 --> 05:31:11,560
All right, now that I have everyone's attention, I have an announcement to make

5482
05:31:11,560 --> 05:31:13,960
because of the surge of gifted blue subscriptions.

5483
05:31:13,960 --> 05:31:16,920
Blue names are now equal to white names, no rights for you.

5484
05:31:17,640 --> 05:31:20,040
Oh, no more rights.

5485
05:31:20,760 --> 05:31:23,880
Oh, they get taken away like that, that quickly.

5486
05:31:25,000 --> 05:31:26,200
I'll do a vote.

5487
05:31:26,840 --> 05:31:29,400
Should whites have rights?

5488
05:31:29,400 --> 05:31:30,200
Yes or no?

5489
05:31:36,600 --> 05:31:38,040
Huge vote in the DDG chat.

5490
05:31:38,040 --> 05:31:40,440
Yo, shout out to Kick Chat, shout out to YouTube chat.

5491
05:31:43,080 --> 05:31:44,440
Big shout out to Kick Chat.

5492
05:31:45,160 --> 05:31:46,840
I love all of you guys there.

5493
05:31:46,840 --> 05:31:47,480
And gals.

5494
05:31:50,520 --> 05:31:51,560
And cringe battles.

5495
05:31:53,960 --> 05:31:55,640
Yeah, whites just got rid of their rights.

5496
05:31:55,640 --> 05:31:58,280
No more whites having rights in DDG chat.

5497
05:31:58,280 --> 05:31:59,640
Don't shout out YouTube chat.

5498
05:31:59,640 --> 05:32:01,960
Well, I like how they type like the angry emoji.

5499
05:32:05,240 --> 05:32:06,200
Shout out YouTube chat.

5500
05:32:10,040 --> 05:32:11,800
What's the, what's the big chat?

5501
05:32:11,800 --> 05:32:13,240
How do I read all the chats again?

5502
05:32:16,920 --> 05:32:17,480
Let me see.

5503
05:32:19,240 --> 05:32:21,880
It stands a dumb bastard and removed it from our DMs, man.

5504
05:32:21,880 --> 05:32:23,000
So I don't even know how to find it.

5505
05:32:24,120 --> 05:32:25,960
Omnichad, Omnichad dot what?

5506
05:32:32,760 --> 05:32:34,840
Okay, when I typed in a omnichad dot com,

5507
05:32:34,840 --> 05:32:36,200
it brought me to a camgirl site.

5508
05:32:37,560 --> 05:32:38,520
Okay, thank you.

5509
05:32:39,960 --> 05:32:42,040
Yo, I see the YouTuber chatters.

5510
05:32:42,040 --> 05:32:45,160
They're typing the face dash red droopy eyes.

5511
05:32:49,240 --> 05:32:50,120
Shout out guys.

5512
05:32:54,600 --> 05:32:55,560
Get an air storm.

5513
05:32:55,560 --> 05:32:56,520
Get a paper turtle.

5514
05:33:09,480 --> 05:33:10,760
Kick Chat dead.

5515
05:33:10,760 --> 05:33:12,200
No, Kick Chat's just fine.

5516
05:33:12,200 --> 05:33:33,160
[Music]

5517
05:33:33,160 --> 05:33:38,280
Air storm, air storm, get a Peppa turtle, a turtle, a turtle.

5518
05:33:40,200 --> 05:33:42,680
Uh, what else do I got to talk to you guys about?

5519
05:33:42,680 --> 05:33:43,560
Thank you to Matt and Jeremiah.

5520
05:33:43,560 --> 05:33:49,400
Surely this one cost won't totally drop off the face of the earth.

5521
05:33:49,400 --> 05:33:53,560
After the midterms, it won't be like a dozen previous podcasts.

5522
05:33:54,120 --> 05:33:58,040
Destiny has been a part of and just end abruptly.

5523
05:33:58,040 --> 05:33:58,840
This is the one.

5524
05:34:01,160 --> 05:34:01,800
It is.

5525
05:34:01,800 --> 05:34:02,600
This is the one.

5526
05:34:03,480 --> 05:34:07,640
You don't think I, I am the Steven Benel Whisperer, man.

5527
05:34:08,760 --> 05:34:13,960
He's in the, he's in your hands and he's still in control.

5528
05:34:14,840 --> 05:34:15,560
That's me.

5529
05:34:15,560 --> 05:34:16,120
I'm the fucking.

5530
05:34:16,120 --> 05:34:20,760
I'll type the Aristotle Peppa tooth to to to to turtle every.

5531
05:34:21,960 --> 05:34:23,720
No, it was three minutes.

5532
05:34:23,720 --> 05:34:24,680
I'm not listening to that.

5533
05:34:27,640 --> 05:34:28,520
What was I talking about?

5534
05:34:29,560 --> 05:34:30,680
Now you got me corn popping.

5535
05:34:32,440 --> 05:34:34,440
Now you, now you fucking corn popped me.

5536
05:34:36,840 --> 05:34:39,640
Thank you, Matt, C and Jeremiah for the Patreon subs.

5537
05:34:39,640 --> 05:34:41,720
Now you fucking, now I get corn popped me, man.

5538
05:34:43,480 --> 05:34:45,000
I don't even know what I was talking about.

5539
05:34:48,440 --> 05:34:48,920
Whatever.

5540
05:34:50,120 --> 05:34:50,840
Just fuck it.

5541
05:35:00,000 --> 05:35:08,320
play the dono you scammer are you going to go on someone else's stream and scam their viewers? Yeah. Yes. I

5542
05:35:08,320 --> 05:35:25,040
was promised this screen 10 years ago. This is unironically my land. Play my dono. It was it was like three

5543
05:35:25,040 --> 05:35:30,640
minutes. I love eating children's foreskin and drinking their blood to give myself at her life

5544
05:35:30,640 --> 05:35:36,480
my with Jewish magic. I can convert money into life essence. No, you're now you're banned from

5545
05:35:36,480 --> 05:35:46,720
donos. How's that feel? Now you're banned from donos and you know what now now donos are off.

5546
05:35:46,720 --> 05:35:55,120
Now they're off because of you. How's that feel? Now you now everybody rage at a zoo. He got donos

5547
05:35:55,120 --> 05:36:12,720
turned off. Everybody be mad at him. Not me. I didn't do that. He did it. Oh, undetected fun

5548
05:36:12,720 --> 05:36:20,240
detected. Oh, yeah. Your role is being removed detected. How about that one? Well, she how

5549
05:36:20,240 --> 05:36:34,320
being chilling. I loved your isolator. Thank you. I love you too. I'm tired, man. How are you feeling?

5550
05:36:35,520 --> 05:36:39,680
I'm feeling good. I woke up until long ago because my sleep schedule is fucked. My sleep schedule is

5551
05:36:39,680 --> 05:36:47,280
pretty on on it right now. Hell yeah. Are you gonna be at the San Antonio? Of course I'm gonna be at

5552
05:36:47,280 --> 05:36:59,200
the essay event. Whoa. Maybe don't abbreviate that. I'm going to San Antonio. There's gonna be a

5553
05:36:59,200 --> 05:37:04,560
dunk tank. I'm gonna get in the dunk tank and you're gonna have to shoot me with the ball to dunk me.

5554
05:37:07,360 --> 05:37:10,960
Wait, is that real? I thought there was a joke. No, I'm not kidding. There is a dunk tank at the

5555
05:37:10,960 --> 05:37:18,080
San Antonio event. Oh, hell yeah. Digital ground game dot digital ground game dot org slash midterms

5556
05:37:18,080 --> 05:37:21,920
digital ground game dot org slash midterms digital ground game dot org slash midterms.

5557
05:37:21,920 --> 05:37:29,600
Come do some door knocking fix the country and you'll get to dunk Steven and me and Dan. Dan will

5558
05:37:29,600 --> 05:37:36,320
commit to it too. Okay, there's no fucking way that Dan goes in there.

5559
05:37:37,760 --> 05:37:43,120
Dan, we'll go in the dunk tank if we get 200 people there. You would have to handcuff him

5560
05:37:43,120 --> 05:37:48,560
and like forcibly sit him down in there before you would do it willingly.

5561
05:37:56,320 --> 05:38:01,680
All right, let me play a few don't knows. Flash of hog flesh of bovine eel.

5562
05:38:04,320 --> 05:38:09,600
That's it. Yeah, what a cool water. Bad intentions lily of the pile, light of the chasm,

5563
05:38:09,600 --> 05:38:11,120
pepper, peanut jelly horse.

5564
05:38:14,960 --> 05:38:19,520
One more from gabbacles. Now that white names and blue names are in the same cast,

5565
05:38:19,520 --> 05:38:24,240
us superior colored names need to take up arms against them, kill them, burn their lands,

5566
05:38:24,240 --> 05:38:27,120
reduce their kind to the faintest memory of a dream long forgotten.

5567
05:38:30,640 --> 05:38:35,280
These fucking commies want to nationalize the, how do you say Aristotle,

5568
05:38:35,280 --> 05:38:40,800
uh, pepper turtle, Aristotle, um, pepper turtle, Aristotle, uh,

5569
05:38:40,800 --> 05:38:44,800
pepper turtle, um, Aristotle, they go and they get, they get pepper turtle. How do you say

5570
05:38:44,800 --> 05:38:46,560
Aristotle, um, pepper turtle?

5571
05:38:48,000 --> 05:38:53,760
Mr. Mouton, if you are tired, you could try going to sleep so you can wake up early tomorrow

5572
05:38:53,760 --> 05:38:59,920
and stream like a great vice leader. Oh, waited someday. Well, let's just forget this donation

5573
05:38:59,920 --> 05:39:05,680
ever happened. That's less than, I mean, there must be nothing else in that don't know.

5574
05:39:09,520 --> 05:39:11,040
Oh, oh, my sides.

5575
05:39:14,320 --> 05:39:17,280
Do not snark parsecs time slot. Oh my God, bro.

5576
05:39:20,080 --> 05:39:23,680
If anything, it's snarking Darius's time slot. Hey,

5577
05:39:26,240 --> 05:39:30,480
I mean, sure. You usually go to bed, you usually go live at like midnight, right?

5578
05:39:31,920 --> 05:39:35,440
Mm. Yeah, shortly after. Depends on how I'm feeling.

5579
05:39:39,760 --> 05:39:45,120
I had a good thing going. I love a pepper turtle.

5580
05:39:48,160 --> 05:39:50,960
I had an emo, a suggestion for you and I remember it was though.

5581
05:39:55,440 --> 05:39:59,960
Mmm. Well, if you remember, let me know.

5582
05:40:00,000 --> 05:40:21,500
I won't. I will remember. Did anything interesting happen today? Oh, I got my haircut. Oh shit.

5583
05:40:21,500 --> 05:40:26,140
That's interesting. Does it look good or are you happy? Observe, if you will, the slimy little

5584
05:40:26,140 --> 05:40:37,660
denies and the frog. This blob-like repellent belch of nature. Evolution makes catastrophic

5585
05:40:37,660 --> 05:40:44,420
mistakes, and this is one of them, unlike the superior Aristotle, Pepo Turtle, Aristotle

5586
05:40:44,420 --> 05:41:00,160
Pepo Turtle. Somebody vexed this guy. You killed me. Can we get a goofy den, boys?

5587
05:41:00,160 --> 05:41:30,160
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5588
05:41:30,160 --> 05:41:35,240
It's not sound like me at all, the fuck.

5589
05:41:35,240 --> 05:41:42,980
Hey, buddy, I think you got the wrong door, the laser club's two blocks down.

5590
05:41:42,980 --> 05:41:43,980
Fuck you.

5591
05:41:43,980 --> 05:41:44,980
Fuck you.

5592
05:41:44,980 --> 05:41:45,980
Leatherman.

5593
05:41:45,980 --> 05:41:50,920
Guys, someone linked me the picture of your haircut.

5594
05:41:50,920 --> 05:41:51,920
That looks pretty good.

5595
05:41:51,920 --> 05:41:54,760
Why did you do like the dream?

5596
05:41:54,760 --> 05:41:59,760
Why did you do the dream of face reveal angle though?

5597
05:41:59,760 --> 05:42:00,760
I wanted to show people the sign.

5598
05:42:00,760 --> 05:42:01,760
Oh, yeah, sure.

5599
05:42:01,760 --> 05:42:02,760
You got to show the fucking sign.

5600
05:42:02,760 --> 05:42:03,760
Oh, yeah.

5601
05:42:03,760 --> 05:42:04,760
Fair enough.

5602
05:42:04,760 --> 05:42:14,460
Yeah, they did a little like fade along the edges, I see.

5603
05:42:14,460 --> 05:42:15,460
Hello everyone.

5604
05:42:15,460 --> 05:42:16,460
Muton here.

5605
05:42:16,460 --> 05:42:18,660
Be sure to follow Daily Dino Facts in the pot.

5606
05:42:18,660 --> 05:42:21,260
Ah, the pot's banned.

5607
05:42:21,260 --> 05:42:22,260
Hello.

5608
05:42:22,260 --> 05:42:23,260
The moths.

5609
05:42:23,260 --> 05:42:24,260
Aristotle Peppo Turtle.

5610
05:42:24,260 --> 05:42:25,260
Oh, he's good.

5611
05:42:25,260 --> 05:42:27,260
Do we have a mod?

5612
05:42:27,260 --> 05:42:38,260
I typed Aristotle Peppa-too-too-too-too turtle every day of my little, little lame life and

5613
05:42:38,260 --> 05:43:04,720
I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I--

5614
05:43:09,260 --> 05:43:15,260
It's out of my hands.

5615
05:43:15,260 --> 05:43:16,260
No.

5616
05:43:16,260 --> 05:43:22,780
Oh, welcome back dear leader.

5617
05:43:22,780 --> 05:43:25,620
Shut the fuck up.

5618
05:43:25,620 --> 05:43:28,460
Yes, yes, sir.

5619
05:43:28,460 --> 05:43:34,660
That's linked to me this.

5620
05:43:34,660 --> 05:43:41,460
Our slash true ugly women, women only sub, men will be banned.

5621
05:43:41,460 --> 05:43:45,260
A space where truly ugly women can come together and share their experience with being truly

5622
05:43:45,260 --> 05:43:48,860
unconventionally unattractive.

5623
05:43:48,860 --> 05:43:59,860
My wife could never join that subreddit, she's the hottest girl I know.

5624
05:43:59,860 --> 05:44:03,300
Post has said men mistake kindness as flirting because they wouldn't be kind to someone they

5625
05:44:03,300 --> 05:44:06,220
are unattractive to walk with me a bit.

5626
05:44:06,220 --> 05:44:09,140
Why would you be kind to someone that you're not attracted to?

5627
05:44:09,140 --> 05:44:11,980
Before you straw me and me, I'm not saying you should be mean to people that you find

5628
05:44:11,980 --> 05:44:12,980
unattractive.

5629
05:44:12,980 --> 05:44:13,980
Don't be mean to anybody, right?

5630
05:44:13,980 --> 05:44:14,980
Like be a good person.

5631
05:44:14,980 --> 05:44:18,740
But being nice, being kind, like going out of your way, that should be reserved for the

5632
05:44:18,740 --> 05:44:19,900
people that you like looking at.

5633
05:44:19,900 --> 05:44:23,420
Loki, when I'm nice to someone, it's like a reward for them looking appealing to me.

5634
05:44:23,420 --> 05:44:27,340
You know, mind you, of course you can get to know somebody and end up being nice to them

5635
05:44:27,340 --> 05:44:30,460
later because you're like, oh, you know, you're a chill person, like you seem cool.

5636
05:44:30,460 --> 05:44:35,260
But somebody said this TikTok purposely takes extreme opinions to bait engagement, by the

5637
05:44:35,260 --> 05:44:36,260
way.

5638
05:44:36,260 --> 05:44:37,260
That's like an established relationship.

5639
05:44:37,260 --> 05:44:40,580
I'm talking about like strangers, like people like you just meet, like why would you be like

5640
05:44:40,580 --> 05:44:44,660
be kind, be nice to someone that like you're not, you know, I mean that you look at them

5641
05:44:44,660 --> 05:44:46,380
and you wish you didn't, you know what I'm saying?

5642
05:44:46,380 --> 05:44:50,380
And if we're being honest, from a psychological standpoint, I'm pretty sure it's naturally

5643
05:44:50,380 --> 05:44:53,660
harder for us to be nice to people that we don't find attractive, right?

5644
05:44:53,660 --> 05:44:57,340
So why put that stress on yourself, you know, stress on your nervous system, instead of forcing

5645
05:44:57,340 --> 05:44:59,980
yourself to be nice to these people, why not just let the chips fall?

5646
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:05,280
As they make and I'm not gonna lie. I feel like they don't understand like to a degree, you know because they could do the same

5647
05:45:05,280 --> 05:45:08,180
Thing, you know you feel me we're gathering

5648
05:45:12,360 --> 05:45:14,360
Mm-hmm really

5649
05:45:16,120 --> 05:45:18,120
I wasn't listening

5650
05:45:19,400 --> 05:45:22,480
If I ever go mm-hmm, I wasn't listening I

5651
05:45:24,480 --> 05:45:28,960
Hate this motherfucker. He has a history of purposefully pissing people off with his ass backwards takes

5652
05:45:30,680 --> 05:45:32,680
Mm-hmm

5653
05:45:36,120 --> 05:45:39,360
He can take his triangle massive nose and his mouth

5654
05:45:45,800 --> 05:45:49,560
When did persec sneak in here, uh-oh, sorry

5655
05:45:54,560 --> 05:45:57,480
This loser isn't even HTN. What does that mean?

5656
05:46:00,160 --> 05:46:02,160
I

5657
05:46:05,800 --> 05:46:07,800
Tear Norma gotcha

5658
05:46:11,920 --> 05:46:13,920
Okay, this is retarded

5659
05:46:15,600 --> 05:46:17,600
What

5660
05:46:17,960 --> 05:46:19,800
Really you're gonna say that yep

5661
05:46:20,560 --> 05:46:23,640
Wait new insane leftist ad

5662
05:46:24,400 --> 05:46:26,080
based ad

5663
05:46:26,080 --> 05:46:27,480
Here we go

5664
05:46:27,480 --> 05:46:33,880
We get all the sandwich stuff for the kids lunch. They don't like turkey anymore. Yeah, I know what about the bananas

5665
05:46:34,080 --> 05:46:35,880
Yeah, I got them too

5666
05:46:35,880 --> 05:46:37,680
But honey

5667
05:46:37,680 --> 05:46:41,800
What you're gonna have to put those eggs back they don't like eggs anymore?

5668
05:46:41,920 --> 05:46:48,240
No, they like eggs, but we have to set that seven dollars aside for killing Palestinians

5669
05:46:51,040 --> 05:46:59,240
Four billion dollars a year anyways, yeah, and now we're giving them another 26 billion dollars. Do you know how much that is per American taxpayer?

5670
05:47:00,040 --> 05:47:06,080
No, it's like a hundred and sixty one dollars per person apparently. It's costing us a lot of money to drop bombs on Daza

5671
05:47:06,920 --> 05:47:08,920
It's terrible

5672
05:47:09,920 --> 05:47:12,960
I think at universal health care, too. Yeah, they do

5673
05:47:14,600 --> 05:47:20,440
We're paying for that too probably might as well put the bananas back. Why the fuck do we have to pay for all of this?

5674
05:47:22,040 --> 05:47:24,040
Don't cuss at me

5675
05:47:24,480 --> 05:47:31,480
Why does Mike Rogers care so much about what Israelis want and so little about what you want Mike Rogers is for

5676
05:47:33,000 --> 05:47:36,760
They them Abdul and Syed is for you

5677
05:47:42,640 --> 05:47:44,640
What the fuck oh

5678
05:47:47,560 --> 05:47:49,560
What

5679
05:47:52,040 --> 05:47:57,560
Wait, what wait, did I miss the twist what happened? Yeah, you did

5680
05:47:58,640 --> 05:48:00,640
Hello

5681
05:48:03,640 --> 05:48:07,920
That's not real right that's the parody check your career count right now, that's jank

5682
05:48:09,200 --> 05:48:13,480
You realize that these guys just hate the Jews, right? I mean, how many times we got a fucking delia

5683
05:48:22,040 --> 05:48:29,760
Jesus Christ, all right, well

5684
05:48:34,160 --> 05:48:37,320
Okay, let me do this one quick cuz this guy he donated $50

5685
05:48:38,560 --> 05:48:40,720
This video is sponsored by proton

5686
05:48:40,960 --> 05:48:46,600
There is a new low point in the relationship between the United States and Ukraine Trump has East sanctions on Russia and it seems at least temporarily

5687
05:48:46,600 --> 05:48:50,800
He also reduced intelligence sharing with Ukraine and limited the usability of Starlink and Zelensky talks about

5688
05:48:51,040 --> 05:48:55,280
How he feels betrayed by the United States and how it's painful to lose a strong partner that Ukraine has relied upon

5689
05:48:55,280 --> 05:48:59,720
It's too early to say where all this will end and therefore it's also too early to say what the military consequences would be for the war

5690
05:48:59,720 --> 05:49:03,120
But what I want to do in this video is to talk about some of the underlying dynamics of what I know is going on

5691
05:49:03,120 --> 05:49:08,040
And especially about where I think Ukraine has gone wrong in the negotiations with the United States since Trump came into office

5692
05:49:08,040 --> 05:49:11,280
And also what they and other European countries can do about it. So we'll talk about it

5693
05:49:13,800 --> 05:49:17,120
This week we saw a rupture in the relationship between Ukraine and the Trump administration

5694
05:49:17,120 --> 05:49:22,360
Trump has been talking about how Ukraine needs a new leader and how Zelensky is an obstacle to peace and on the contrary Zelensky has said

5695
05:49:22,360 --> 05:49:26,240
Straight out that Trump has chosen Russia over Ukraine and that the United States is on the wrong side of history

5696
05:49:26,240 --> 05:49:28,600
So clearly these two leaders are quite far from each other right now

5697
05:49:28,600 --> 05:49:32,560
And it's remarkable because since the big fight in the White House more than a year and a half ago

5698
05:49:32,760 --> 05:49:38,560
Zelensky has been careful not to be too direct in any kind of criticism of Donald Trump Ukraine has always also been very eager to demonstrate that

5699
05:49:38,560 --> 05:49:43,760
They have good faith in the peace negotiations and that they were very supportive of all the initiatives that Trump was taking

5700
05:49:43,960 --> 05:49:47,000
But now it's clear that this approach is not working anymore

5701
05:49:47,000 --> 05:49:52,920
And they have hit a roadblock where it's impossible for Zelensky to keep up the appearance of being supportive of the steps that Donald Trump is taking

5702
05:49:53,000 --> 05:50:00,000
The reason for that is the diesel deal that Trump has made with Putin the United States is now easing sanctions on Russia in order to allow Russian export of diesel

5703
05:50:00,000 --> 05:50:04,400
And this is something that will give Putin more money that he can use to wait war on Ukraine,

5704
05:50:04,400 --> 05:50:08,320
but it will also send a message to Putin that Russia is about to be welcomed back into the world

5705
05:50:08,320 --> 05:50:12,560
economy. And this runs directly against Ukraine's idea of how they are going to end the war.

5706
05:50:12,560 --> 05:50:17,120
Their idea is that they were going to be pressuring Putin into peace negotiations. But

5707
05:50:17,120 --> 05:50:20,240
why would you do that when he's getting the benefit of sanctions relief, even without actually ending

5708
05:50:20,240 --> 05:50:24,400
the war on Ukraine? So with Trump's latest actions, he has crossed a line where it's no longer possible

5709
05:50:24,400 --> 05:50:28,400
to say that the United States overall is reluctantly supporting Ukraine, for example,

5710
05:50:28,400 --> 05:50:32,800
or even that they play a role as a neutral mediator. With this diesel deal, the United States is

5711
05:50:32,800 --> 05:50:36,320
actually helping Ukraine's enemy prevail in the war. And that's obviously something that

5712
05:50:36,320 --> 05:50:40,320
Ukraine has to respond to in one way or another. But I think the deep disappointment that we can

5713
05:50:40,320 --> 05:50:45,040
see from the Ukrainian reactions also says something that is quite important about a misunderstanding

5714
05:50:45,040 --> 05:50:48,640
that unfortunately has been quite widespread in Ukraine about how Trump operates and what

5715
05:50:48,640 --> 05:50:52,320
it was possible to get out of the negotiations. And this is actually a bit unusual for me,

5716
05:50:52,320 --> 05:50:55,680
because normally I talk about how the Ukrainians have the most clear understanding of the war

5717
05:50:55,680 --> 05:50:59,680
and how its people in the West or in Russia that misunderstand this or that thing. But in this case,

5718
05:50:59,680 --> 05:51:03,520
it is a Ukrainian misunderstanding that we need to talk about. And the misunderstanding is about

5719
05:51:03,520 --> 05:51:07,520
Trump's psychology. And it's, of course, not all Ukrainians who share this misunderstanding,

5720
05:51:07,520 --> 05:51:10,880
but I've heard enough say it that I can say that it's a view that many people in Ukraine have had.

5721
05:51:10,880 --> 05:51:15,600
And we also see from public statements that even the people that are engaged directly in the

5722
05:51:15,600 --> 05:51:19,760
negotiations with the Americans have to a large extent have this idea. And that idea is the idea

5723
05:51:19,760 --> 05:51:23,920
that Trump likes winners and that he respects strength. So if Ukraine can show that they are

5724
05:51:23,920 --> 05:51:27,280
winning the war and that they are strong, then it would be possible to change Trump's opinion

5725
05:51:27,280 --> 05:51:30,640
about Ukraine, because Trump likes to be on the winning team. And this would persuade him that

5726
05:51:30,640 --> 05:51:35,200
the winning team is team Ukraine and not team Russia. This unfortunately is a tragic misunderstanding

5727
05:51:35,200 --> 05:51:38,240
of how Trump works. There are many reasons why Trump behaves the way he does. Some of them are

5728
05:51:38,240 --> 05:51:47,520
cyclical. Wait a minute. That's what I believe. Hmm. Watch a call. Some of them are related to

5729
05:51:47,520 --> 05:51:50,960
narcissistic personality disorder. For example, that nextler has some great videos about that.

5730
05:51:50,960 --> 05:51:54,400
Other reasons are related to corruption, even though Ukraine is a country that has issues with

5731
05:51:54,400 --> 05:51:57,440
corruption. And there's just no way that they can compete with Russia when it comes to corruption.

5732
05:51:57,440 --> 05:52:06,720
And Russia just has much more willingness to pay money to Donald Trump's family. But I'm trying

5733
05:52:06,720 --> 05:52:12,000
to think of what he's going to say. The only thing I can think of is the big power politics argument,

5734
05:52:12,000 --> 05:52:18,720
where Trump doesn't want to undermine the United States ability to do whatever it wants on its

5735
05:52:18,720 --> 05:52:23,840
side of the world, the spirit of influence argument. So the United States won't undermine Russia's

5736
05:52:23,840 --> 05:52:27,920
ability to do what they want on their side of the world, because it would undermine the US's ability.

5737
05:52:27,920 --> 05:52:32,480
Maybe, but understanding that I'm talking about here is the failure to see that behind Donald

5738
05:52:32,480 --> 05:52:36,960
Trump's actions is actually also ideology. Trump is not an ideologue in the sense that he can

5739
05:52:36,960 --> 05:52:40,400
formulate these things very clearly. But when you listen to what he says, it is clear that there

5740
05:52:40,400 --> 05:52:44,320
are some quite strong ideas behind it. And they are related to the mentality that might is right.

5741
05:52:44,320 --> 05:52:48,320
And that's also why he thinks corruption is okay. For example, if I have the power to enrich myself,

5742
05:52:48,320 --> 05:52:51,600
then of course, why should I not do it? Right? But it's also might is right in his understanding

5743
05:52:51,600 --> 05:52:54,720
of countries and how great powers have the right to establish empires over there.

5744
05:52:56,320 --> 05:52:56,880
I

5745
05:53:00,160 --> 05:53:04,960
he'll make the argument, I guess. I don't think I fully agree with this. I do think it more has to

5746
05:53:04,960 --> 05:53:10,080
do with the initial psychological argument. But there's probably like a tiny threshold. So like,

5747
05:53:10,080 --> 05:53:15,680
I think if Ukraine was clearly winning the war, like if it was obvious that Russia was lost,

5748
05:53:15,680 --> 05:53:21,040
I think Trump would switch sides. But if it's still kind of like on the fence and then think

5749
05:53:21,040 --> 05:53:24,560
about the people that Trump surrounds himself with, right, or probably not giving him the best

5750
05:53:24,560 --> 05:53:28,400
information either or the most honest information either, then I think I think they're still

5751
05:53:28,400 --> 05:53:33,200
why would they not why would they give him dishonest information to like keep their jobs in chat or

5752
05:53:36,320 --> 05:53:39,920
you're thinking from an ideological perspective, unfortunately, I think it's a brain drain perspective.

5753
05:53:39,920 --> 05:53:44,000
I just don't think that people are intelligent. There's a lot there's so much talent that's been

5754
05:53:44,000 --> 05:53:49,600
lost from that it's been fired or yeah, and then I don't actually even know how much he listens to

5755
05:53:49,600 --> 05:53:53,440
his State Department anymore. Remember, the president of the United States has all of these

5756
05:53:53,440 --> 05:53:58,160
different departments that exist underneath him to carry out different functions of the of the

5757
05:53:58,160 --> 05:54:02,400
executive, but almost everything now is just brand or feels like almost everything else just

5758
05:54:02,400 --> 05:54:06,480
ran from inside the White House. And so rather than relying on Rubio and his entire State Department

5759
05:54:06,480 --> 05:54:10,480
to get an understanding of things that are going on around the world, he just has whatever fucking

5760
05:54:10,480 --> 05:54:16,080
Kushner or Vance or wherever the fuck else is whispering in his ear, Stephen Miller, whatever.

5761
05:54:17,520 --> 05:54:21,920
Our neighbors and to exploit those relationships with weaker States. Trump is deep in his heart

5762
05:54:21,920 --> 05:54:25,840
and imperialist. It's an imperialist mindset that guides many of his foreign policy decisions.

5763
05:54:25,840 --> 05:54:30,000
It is this mindset we see in relation to Venezuela, to Greenland, to Canada and also to Ukraine.

5764
05:54:30,000 --> 05:54:32,720
The difference between the first three in Ukraine is that when it comes to Venezuela,

5765
05:54:32,720 --> 05:54:35,680
Greenland and Canada, then we're talking about American imperialism. We are talking about the

5766
05:54:35,680 --> 05:54:39,760
right of the United States to dominate these countries, but when which it is possible though

5767
05:54:39,760 --> 05:54:43,920
that the people around him can be ideologically driven to some extent as well though. So it might

5768
05:54:43,920 --> 05:54:47,040
be that they're lying to him, but not because they're stupid, but because they do have this

5769
05:54:47,040 --> 05:54:51,520
great power or politics ideology. And that's why they're not giving him a truthful assessment

5770
05:54:51,520 --> 05:54:55,600
of what's going on. That's I guess that could be possible. Talking about Ukraine, it's more

5771
05:54:55,600 --> 05:54:59,440
of a mirror reflection. Trump doesn't really see that the United States has any particular interests

5772
05:54:59,440 --> 05:55:00,000
in being.

5773
05:55:00,000 --> 05:55:03,760
in Eastern Europe. On the country he sees Ukraine as territory that Russia quite logically has the

5774
05:55:03,760 --> 05:55:07,360
right to dominate. So it's like the US wants to feel the way about Venezuela and Cuba and

5775
05:55:07,360 --> 05:55:12,000
Donald Trump ideologically actually believes that Putin has a good point and he supports Russia's

5776
05:55:12,000 --> 05:55:16,240
cause because it is the same principle that gives Russia the right to dominate Ukraine that also

5777
05:55:16,240 --> 05:55:20,240
gives the United States the right to dominate Canada. Donald Trump fundamentally sees Ukraine

5778
05:55:20,240 --> 05:55:24,240
as a kind of European version of Canada. He doesn't acknowledge Ukraine's right to sovereignty,

5779
05:55:24,240 --> 05:55:27,920
just as he doesn't acknowledge Canada's right to sovereignty. And he also and probably rightfully

5780
05:55:27,920 --> 05:55:32,480
so believes that if he helps Ukraine prevail against Russia and Ukraine comes out of this war

5781
05:55:32,480 --> 05:55:35,440
in a position of strength, then Ukraine will use that strength to support Canada in their

5782
05:55:35,440 --> 05:55:39,280
struggle against him. So this is the understanding we need to have about what's going on inside of

5783
05:55:39,280 --> 05:55:43,760
Trump and how he personally would like to see things go in the war in Ukraine. We need to

5784
05:55:43,760 --> 05:55:47,920
understand that it is actually an ideological issue for him and that he wants to see Russia win.

5785
05:55:47,920 --> 05:55:51,840
So the idea that if Ukraine can demonstrate strength and that they are winning over Russia,

5786
05:55:51,840 --> 05:55:54,560
then Donald Trump will change his mind and he would suddenly start supporting Ukraine,

5787
05:55:54,560 --> 05:55:58,640
that's just absolutely wrong because it's quite on the contrary that the stronger Ukraine gets

5788
05:55:58,640 --> 05:56:01,680
and the bigger trouble Russia is in, the more Donald Trump is going to turn against Ukraine

5789
05:56:01,680 --> 05:56:04,960
because ultimately he would like to see Russia win. So that's one thing we need to keep in mind

5790
05:56:04,960 --> 05:56:08,240
when we are trying to understand what's happening within negotiations and why they haven't really

5791
05:56:08,240 --> 05:56:12,320
led to anything over the last year and a half. And in itself that is of course pretty bleak

5792
05:56:12,320 --> 05:56:15,920
that the president of the United States wants to see Ukraine using the war. But there is another

5793
05:56:15,920 --> 05:56:20,240
thing that we also need to understand and that is that even though Trump looks at it and feels at

5794
05:56:20,240 --> 05:56:24,080
it this way personally and he would like to see Russia win, it might still be possible for Ukraine

5795
05:56:24,080 --> 05:56:28,240
to work with him and to get what they want. Trump is not omnipotent. He is a politician who is

5796
05:56:28,240 --> 05:56:32,080
exposed to all kinds of pressures that limit his options and that set boundaries for what

5797
05:56:32,080 --> 05:56:35,920
it's possible for him to do. And there is still very strong support for Ukraine in the United States

5798
05:56:35,920 --> 05:56:39,280
and this creates domestic pressures that Trump has to deal with and that means that he can't just

5799
05:56:39,280 --> 05:56:43,200
go ahead and support Russia as much as he would like. And also internationally Trump runs into

5800
05:56:43,200 --> 05:56:46,880
the problem that many other countries support Ukraine. And this is, this means that it's not

5801
05:56:46,880 --> 05:56:49,440
necessarily up to him to make these decisions alone. If the United States and the United States and

5802
05:56:49,440 --> 05:56:54,000
the Europeans keep supporting Ukraine, then Ukraine is not actually going to lose. It just makes

5803
05:56:54,000 --> 05:56:58,000
him look weak. And if he goes too far, then it's going to push the European countries even more in

5804
05:56:58,000 --> 05:57:01,920
the direction of abandoning American weapons technology. And this will hurt American financial

5805
05:57:01,920 --> 05:57:05,840
interests. What I'm saying is that the approach to handling Trump is not flattery. It's not about

5806
05:57:05,840 --> 05:57:09,760
trying to persuade him to see your point or to change his mind or to say the things that he would

5807
05:57:09,760 --> 05:57:13,600
like to hear. The way to handle on Trump is to focus on his weaknesses and to identify the pressure

5808
05:57:13,600 --> 05:57:17,680
points that you can exploit to push him into giving you what you want, even when he doesn't want to.

5809
05:57:17,680 --> 05:57:22,240
And in other words, it's politics. The European countries need to acknowledge that, you know,

5810
05:57:22,240 --> 05:57:28,240
one thing I thought about, because you think about this in terms of Netanyahu, is your understanding

5811
05:57:28,240 --> 05:57:33,120
of a politician is usually limited to, I mean, to some extent, it may be a little bit different

5812
05:57:33,120 --> 05:57:37,040
in Europe, but it's kind of limited to their foreign policy. Because like, if I were to ask

5813
05:57:37,040 --> 05:57:41,680
somebody, you know, do you think that Netanyahu is trying to defund or undercut social services

5814
05:57:41,680 --> 05:57:47,440
in Israel? Like, you don't really know that, right? We don't really engage with the domestic affairs

5815
05:57:47,440 --> 05:57:52,000
of a world leader. So you tend to view the world leader almost exclusively, sometimes through the

5816
05:57:52,000 --> 05:57:56,000
lens of how they conduct their foreign policy, because that's their way of relating to you.

5817
05:57:56,880 --> 05:58:01,840
Sometimes I wonder when I look at how Europeans are other people engaged with Trump, like I've

5818
05:58:01,840 --> 05:58:06,080
said a lot that I don't know if it's true now, maybe after the startling thing, but I still have

5819
05:58:06,080 --> 05:58:12,160
this feeling that all of the world, especially Europe, especially NATO, are kind of waiting

5820
05:58:12,160 --> 05:58:18,880
for America to like wake up where they're like, okay, it's been two years again, it's crazy,

5821
05:58:18,880 --> 05:58:23,280
but all right, guys, like it's time to let's, you know, let's come on. Like, this is obviously

5822
05:58:23,280 --> 05:58:26,880
goofy as fuck. We know, you know, we're going to feel like that, though. I feel like Carney and

5823
05:58:26,880 --> 05:58:31,600
everybody are like, they're trying to move on. Yes, but Canada, that's Canada. He's white the

5824
05:58:31,600 --> 05:58:36,720
fuck there. So he gets, I feel like he's trying to like move people in like the EU and stuff as well.

5825
05:58:36,720 --> 05:58:40,080
Yeah, he gets hard as though. Yeah, in Mexico, I imagine that's why I said in Europe, it might be

5826
05:58:40,080 --> 05:58:43,360
different for European leaders, because they're, you know, right next to each other. But I don't

5827
05:58:43,360 --> 05:58:47,840
know sometimes I'm sure European see like the wacky foreign policy of Donald Trump, but we also

5828
05:58:47,840 --> 05:58:52,720
had like the wacky foreign policy of George Bush, and you know, some people have feelings about us

5829
05:58:52,720 --> 05:58:58,640
letting right me be invaded or us, you know, bombing and opposing Gaddafi, and you know,

5830
05:58:58,640 --> 05:59:01,440
whatever else. So maybe like, you know, Trump's kind of bad, but because they don't have as much

5831
05:59:01,440 --> 05:59:05,360
of an engagement with our domestic politics, they don't realize like how much of an aberration

5832
05:59:05,360 --> 05:59:09,920
Trump is from the norm, even from other conservatives. Well, yeah, people are getting murdered.

5833
05:59:09,920 --> 05:59:13,600
Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I don't know if I'm, I kind of wonder sometimes if that factors into it,

5834
05:59:13,600 --> 05:59:17,920
but you know, it's like, is even today, I don't think it was Anna, I think it was somebody I was

5835
05:59:17,920 --> 05:59:20,320
listening to before she came on, but it might even been her where they're like, okay, well,

5836
05:59:20,320 --> 05:59:24,080
Europe is like finally saying like, now we need to do our own thing, we need to get off of like

5837
05:59:24,080 --> 05:59:30,320
American protection. Like Angela Merkel said that in Trump's first term, that I think it was the

5838
05:59:30,320 --> 05:59:33,200
first time a European leader was like, maybe, you know, the United States is not the leader of

5839
05:59:33,200 --> 05:59:38,800
the free world like we thought, and like how many times have I heard the Europeans, and I don't

5840
05:59:38,800 --> 05:59:42,880
even fault them. I'm not attacking Europe. The United States is abhorrent right now. But like,

5841
05:59:42,880 --> 05:59:46,080
you know, we've heard this thing's like, okay, guys, I think it's for real for real time that we

5842
05:59:46,080 --> 05:59:49,600
start relying on America. Now it's for real for real for real for real. And I understand that

5843
05:59:49,600 --> 05:59:54,560
Europe is taking steps to make themselves more independent from the United States, which is

5844
05:59:55,680 --> 05:59:59,760
necessary, but sad. But yeah, Jesus.

5845
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:10,000
There is a genuine clash of political ideas that the current US administration doesn't actually want a strong European continent that consists of small states that work together and that gain strength through collaboration.

5846
06:00:10,000 --> 06:00:14,000
What they want is a lot of small, weak European states that empires can then dominate.

5847
06:00:14,000 --> 06:00:21,000
So I think it's important that we elevate the discussion in Europe and stop pretending that it's some kind of rhetorical exercise in how to sweet talk Donald Trump.

5848
06:00:21,000 --> 06:00:26,000
People have had long debates about whether Zelensky has been too direct in his criticism in different interviews and how Donald...

5849
06:00:26,000 --> 06:00:35,000
Oh yeah, we talked about this a long time ago too. At least in Japan and probably other countries, part of the problem is that when they translate Trump, they do the best faith interpretation of him.

5850
06:00:35,000 --> 06:00:37,000
They don't see the dumb, unhinged version.

5851
06:00:37,000 --> 06:00:51,000
I don't know if this is common with all fascists, but this is a big issue with Hitler as well, especially when it came to translating mine comp that some translators would clean up a lot of the German because they're run on sentences and I was not really the best pros ever.

5852
06:00:51,000 --> 06:01:07,000
But there's a guy, I wish you could remember his name, he does a more authoritative translation of it and he makes a big argument in the prologue, I think, or preface or whatever, where he's like, "Some of the language is kind of weird and there are a lot of run on sentences and it's not written in the best pros, but this is the most accurate translation of what are you saying."

5853
06:01:07,000 --> 06:01:17,000
And to some extent, it does a disservice to a translation when you are translating it and cleaning up the language because you're representing this person more intellectually than they were.

5854
06:01:17,000 --> 06:01:23,000
You're like helping him out. Yeah, and that was a question I asked a lot in the beginning when it came to, "How do people translate Donald Trump?"

5855
06:01:23,000 --> 06:01:32,000
Because if you were to do a fair translation of the things that Donald Trump says, not just a, what do they call it, not just translating but interpreting.

5856
06:01:32,000 --> 06:01:35,000
There's a second thing or whatever. Maybe I'm thinking localization.

5857
06:01:35,000 --> 06:01:41,000
If you clean up a lot of the grammatical fuckups and everything, I shouldn't even say grammatical fuckups.

5858
06:01:41,000 --> 06:01:50,000
It's just the way that he speaks. If you just do a dry translation, you don't really understand how fucking crazy this guy is, you know, and how retarded the intelligence is a big one too of how stupid he is.

5859
06:01:50,000 --> 06:01:53,000
Trump would feel about that, but that is totally missing the point.

5860
06:01:53,000 --> 06:02:00,000
The focus needs to be on how Zelensky and other European leaders through their words and actions can target the pressure points that limit the political options that Donald Trump has.

5861
06:02:00,000 --> 06:02:10,000
For example, some people have criticized Zelensky's interview with Pierce Morgan because he was very direct in his criticism of Donald Trump, but the reality is that the interview was extremely successful because it hit all the right buttons

5862
06:02:10,000 --> 06:02:15,000
in all the right places in American society. Most Americans don't like to hear that they are on the wrong side of history.

5863
06:02:15,000 --> 06:02:24,000
And most Americans actually understand where Zelensky is coming from. So that interview generally, we have, again, I don't know how you do this.

5864
06:02:24,000 --> 06:02:32,000
I used to talk about this for Dave Smith all the time, that Americans, millennials, especially are traumatized by the Iraq war.

5865
06:02:32,000 --> 06:02:46,000
For a lot of Americans, they see it as like the single defining point in all of U.S. foreign policy. And rather than aiming for some kind of redemption, the feeling just became, okay, well, we just need to extricate ourselves from all foreign conflict.

5866
06:02:46,000 --> 06:02:49,000
We just never need to be involved. We can't be the world police.

5867
06:02:49,000 --> 06:02:54,000
That has been a deeply corrosive idea, in my opinion, for U.S. politics.

5868
06:02:54,000 --> 06:03:04,000
U.S. foreign policy, you know, more precisely, because we have had such a bad engagement with Iraq and Afghanistan, Americans are just like, we just should do nothing.

5869
06:03:04,000 --> 06:03:14,000
And then I think to some extent, that's even played in a little bit to kind of sort of rewriting some conflict to where it's like, where we really the good guys, World War II, or actually not that extreme.

5870
06:03:14,000 --> 06:03:19,000
People like Tucker Carlson and stuff do that, but I don't think it's, no, I actually do think it's a little bit born out of that hating U.S. foreign policy.

5871
06:03:19,000 --> 06:03:25,000
And then like the fixation on like the Vietnam War and how evil we were and like maybe even the Korean War was a mistake.

5872
06:03:25,000 --> 06:03:30,000
Sometimes you hear these weird people that defend like North Korea or say it's not as bad as propaganda say it is.

5873
06:03:30,000 --> 06:03:32,000
Yeah, I don't know, not good.

5874
06:03:32,000 --> 06:03:39,000
Right, a political pressure on Donald Trump and it actually looks like afterwards suddenly the intelligence sharing started working again and Starlink also began to operate.

5875
06:03:39,000 --> 06:03:44,000
And nobody in Washington now, we're at a point now where nobody in Washington wants to take responsibility for the decision to shut down these things in the first place.

5876
06:03:44,000 --> 06:03:49,000
So I think this interview that Zelensky gave was an example of a very successful intervention.

5877
06:03:49,000 --> 06:03:59,000
So instead of focusing on how to save things that Donald Trump wants to hear, we should start having a genuine political discussion about how the current U.S. government is not on Europe's side in this conflict and what we can do to still get what we want.

5878
06:03:59,000 --> 06:04:04,000
I think in the end, it will be possible for Ukraine to maintain some level of support from the United States.

5879
06:04:04,000 --> 06:04:08,000
So already now, as I said, Starlink is working again and my hunch is that intelligence sharing will also continue.

5880
06:04:08,000 --> 06:04:15,000
Many people actually have a wrong idea about what intelligence sharing actually means, but in reality, it is mostly early warnings about Russian airstrikes on Ukrainian cities.

5881
06:04:15,000 --> 06:04:21,000
The intelligence that comes from American satellites allows the Ukrainians to sound the air raid alert and then people will have time to seek shelter.

5882
06:04:21,000 --> 06:04:27,000
When Trump talks about stopping intelligence sharing with Ukraine, that what he's saying is really that he will remove that possibility for the Ukrainians to save civilian lives.

5883
06:04:27,000 --> 06:04:35,000
And that is just an idea that's going to be extremely unpopular in the United States and Donald Trump will realize that taking that step is something that is probably outside the scope of what is politically possible for him.

5884
06:04:35,000 --> 06:04:39,000
I'm less certain about the diesel deal and Trump might still go ahead and ease the sanctions on Russia.

5885
06:04:39,000 --> 06:04:43,000
I hope the political pressure will be big enough to force him into changing course on that as well, but he might go through with it.

5886
06:04:43,000 --> 06:04:54,000
Either way, I think he's going to have to realize that it will be impossible for him to stop Ukraine from actually attacking Russian refineries and also that he's going to discover that even though they do that, then he will still have to maintain some level of support for Ukraine.

5887
06:04:54,000 --> 06:05:00,000
All in all, this is, of course, just another example of why it's necessary for Europe to gain strategic and technological independence from the United States.

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5891
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5892
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Also in the United States and Donald Trump will realize that taking that step is something that is probably outside the scope of what is

5893
06:05:36,520 --> 06:05:41,200
Politically possible for him and let's start in about the diesel deal and Trump might still go ahead and ease the sanctions on Russia

5894
06:05:41,200 --> 06:05:44,000
I hope the political pressure will be big enough to force him into changing course on that as well

5895
06:05:44,000 --> 06:05:46,080
But he might go through with it either way

5896
06:05:46,080 --> 06:05:51,480
I think he's going to have to realize that it will be impossible for him to stop Ukraine from actually attacking Russian refineries

5897
06:05:51,480 --> 06:05:56,480
And also that he's going to discover that even though they do that then he will still have to maintain some level of support for Ukraine

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5941
06:09:35,480 --> 06:09:39,360
Then that's why they're falling behind what I don't what I need to watch more

5942
06:09:39,840 --> 06:09:42,360
What is point is ideology these days? I'm sure

5943
06:09:43,400 --> 06:09:45,680
The he might be a day. He might be coming around

5944
06:09:46,640 --> 06:09:48,240
Coming around what?

5945
06:09:48,240 --> 06:09:54,480
He's coming around to be a dem man. He's honor to vote them. He's saying this because because they don't like Indians now

5946
06:09:54,480 --> 06:10:00,000
Oh, I know yeah, but it was it was them. This was the lamest fucking did you?

5947
06:10:00,000 --> 06:10:01,600
do you ever follow this drama?

5948
06:10:01,600 --> 06:10:04,520
It was so fucking cringe.

5949
06:10:04,520 --> 06:10:09,040
And it made Americans like so fucking stupid was,

5950
06:10:09,040 --> 06:10:13,160
so Vivek was talking about not even that extreme,

5951
06:10:13,160 --> 06:10:16,200
but like, he made the crime of saying,

5952
06:10:16,200 --> 06:10:20,760
you know, maybe other cultures have it like a little bit

5953
06:10:20,760 --> 06:10:22,920
right that maybe we should push our kids

5954
06:10:22,920 --> 06:10:25,080
to do well in education.

5955
06:10:25,080 --> 06:10:28,240
And every fucking redneck white trash fucking loser

5956
06:10:28,240 --> 06:10:31,520
and served Americans like, I want my kids to play football.

5957
06:10:31,520 --> 06:10:33,360
I'm not going to bury them in math books all day,

5958
06:10:33,360 --> 06:10:34,960
like a fucking Asian tiger mod,

5959
06:10:34,960 --> 06:10:37,160
or disgusting fuck the thing that makes America beautiful

5960
06:10:37,160 --> 06:10:38,720
is how fucking cragged it and retarded

5961
06:10:38,720 --> 06:10:39,880
or fed fucking kids can be.

5962
06:10:39,880 --> 06:10:40,720
You fucking--

5963
06:10:40,720 --> 06:10:41,960
- And they people lost their fucking mind.

5964
06:10:41,960 --> 06:10:43,400
It was, somebody go find the tweets.

5965
06:10:43,400 --> 06:10:44,400
These are like the least,

5966
06:10:44,400 --> 06:10:45,800
they're the most inoffensive statements ever.

5967
06:10:45,800 --> 06:10:48,560
It's like, yeah, this is obviously not a problem.

5968
06:10:48,560 --> 06:10:50,520
And people, they lost their shit over it.

5969
06:10:50,520 --> 06:10:52,760
And then it was like the whole fucking,

5970
06:10:52,760 --> 06:10:53,560
for the first time,

5971
06:10:53,560 --> 06:10:55,040
Indians started to view,

5972
06:10:55,040 --> 06:10:56,360
or Americans started to view Indians

5973
06:10:56,360 --> 06:10:59,440
as the Asian tigers that they are,

5974
06:10:59,440 --> 06:11:00,440
and just like came out.

5975
06:11:00,440 --> 06:11:02,280
They were so ass-pained over it.

5976
06:11:02,280 --> 06:11:04,240
- And he says this running in the Rust Belt,

5977
06:11:04,240 --> 06:11:05,680
you're making us do this.

5978
06:11:05,680 --> 06:11:07,080
Apologize now.

5979
06:11:07,080 --> 06:11:09,480
Apologize for making us vote for Amy Acton.

5980
06:11:09,480 --> 06:11:11,320
It's your fault.

5981
06:11:11,320 --> 06:11:13,880
They're saying, we're doing this, we're not doing this.

5982
06:11:13,880 --> 06:11:15,840
We're an instrument.

5983
06:11:15,840 --> 06:11:18,120
We're not, you're not voting for Amy Acton.

5984
06:11:18,120 --> 06:11:20,800
You're doing what Republicans made you do.

5985
06:11:20,800 --> 06:11:24,880
We have to deny Vivek Ramaswami by any means necessary

5986
06:11:24,880 --> 06:11:26,720
that is legal and safe.

5987
06:11:26,720 --> 06:11:28,400
We have to deny Vivek Ramaswami.

5988
06:11:28,400 --> 06:11:29,840
They're making us do this.

5989
06:11:29,840 --> 06:11:31,400
We can't let an anchor baby

5990
06:11:31,400 --> 06:11:33,000
who has contempt for white Americans

5991
06:11:33,000 --> 06:11:34,760
and Americans in general whole might become

5992
06:11:34,760 --> 06:11:35,600
the governor of Ohio.

5993
06:11:35,600 --> 06:11:37,760
His political career must end immediately.

5994
06:11:38,760 --> 06:11:40,960
So vote for Amy Acton.

5995
06:11:40,960 --> 06:11:43,200
We're all in 100%.

5996
06:11:43,200 --> 06:11:45,360
I want to see Governor Acton take power.

5997
06:11:46,520 --> 06:11:47,520
In 2029.

5998
06:11:47,520 --> 06:11:48,320
- Hey, how's that? - 2027.

5999
06:11:48,320 --> 06:11:49,160
- 2027. - 2027.

6000
06:11:55,880 --> 06:11:58,000
Oh man, dude, they lost it.

6001
06:11:58,000 --> 06:11:59,600
This was over the, I think this was around the time

6002
06:11:59,600 --> 06:12:00,840
of the H-1B debate as well.

6003
06:12:00,840 --> 06:12:03,640
So people were just, whoo, very sensitive.

6004
06:12:06,480 --> 06:12:08,880
The reason top tech companies often hire foreign born

6005
06:12:08,880 --> 06:12:10,840
and first generation engineers over Native Americans

6006
06:12:10,840 --> 06:12:13,680
isn't because of an innate American IQ deficit,

6007
06:12:13,680 --> 06:12:15,200
a lazy and wrong explanation.

6008
06:12:15,200 --> 06:12:18,560
A key part of it comes down to the C-word culture.

6009
06:12:18,560 --> 06:12:21,640
Oh, I guess I see also why this triggered the fuck it on

6010
06:12:21,640 --> 06:12:23,240
'cause usually these are the arguments

6011
06:12:23,240 --> 06:12:26,120
that white nationalists use for why brown cultures

6012
06:12:26,120 --> 06:12:27,720
are inferior is because the culture

6013
06:12:27,720 --> 06:12:30,320
comes from like the brown jeans and that,

6014
06:12:30,320 --> 06:12:31,720
so I see also why.

6015
06:12:31,720 --> 06:12:33,960
Tough questions demand, tough answers,

6016
06:12:33,960 --> 06:12:35,720
and if we're really serious about fixing the problem,

6017
06:12:35,720 --> 06:12:37,120
we have to confront the truth.

6018
06:12:37,120 --> 06:12:40,000
Our American culture has venerated mediocrity

6019
06:12:40,000 --> 06:12:41,960
over excellence for way too long,

6020
06:12:41,960 --> 06:12:44,640
at least since the 90s and likely longer.

6021
06:12:44,640 --> 06:12:47,840
That doesn't start in college, it starts young.

6022
06:12:51,320 --> 06:12:53,800
A culture that celebrates the prom queen

6023
06:12:53,800 --> 06:12:57,800
over the math Olympiad, the math Olympiad champ,

6024
06:12:57,800 --> 06:12:59,640
or the jock over the valedictorian

6025
06:12:59,640 --> 06:13:01,520
will not produce the best engineers.

6026
06:13:01,520 --> 06:13:04,520
A culture that venerates Corey from Boy Meets World

6027
06:13:04,520 --> 06:13:07,800
or Zack and Slater over Screech and Saved by the Bell

6028
06:13:07,800 --> 06:13:10,840
or Stefan over Steve Erkel or in Family Matters

6029
06:13:10,840 --> 06:13:12,720
will not produce the best engineers.

6030
06:13:12,720 --> 06:13:14,440
Fact, I know multiple sets of immigrant parents

6031
06:13:14,440 --> 06:13:15,880
in the 90s who actively limited how much

6032
06:13:15,880 --> 06:13:17,280
their kids could watch those TV shows

6033
06:13:17,280 --> 06:13:19,160
precisely because they promoted mediocrity

6034
06:13:19,160 --> 06:13:21,720
and their kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates.

6035
06:13:21,720 --> 06:13:24,880
More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of Friends,

6036
06:13:24,880 --> 06:13:26,680
more math tutoring, fewer sleepovers,

6037
06:13:26,680 --> 06:13:28,800
more weekend science competitions,

6038
06:13:28,800 --> 06:13:31,200
fewer Saturday morning cartoons, more books, less TV,

6039
06:13:31,200 --> 06:13:33,600
more creating less chilling, more extracurriculars,

6040
06:13:33,600 --> 06:13:35,320
less hanging out at the mall.

6041
06:13:35,320 --> 06:13:37,040
Most normal American parents look skeptically

6042
06:13:37,040 --> 06:13:38,760
at those kinds of parents.

6043
06:13:38,760 --> 06:13:43,080
More normal American kids view such those kinds of kids

6044
06:13:43,080 --> 06:13:44,120
with scorn.

6045
06:13:44,120 --> 06:13:46,120
If you grow up aspiring to normalcy,

6046
06:13:46,120 --> 06:13:47,520
normalcy is what you will achieve.

6047
06:13:47,520 --> 06:13:48,520
Now close your eyes and visualize

6048
06:13:48,520 --> 06:13:50,080
which families you knew in the 90s,

6049
06:13:50,080 --> 06:13:51,880
or even now, who raised their kids according

6050
06:13:51,880 --> 06:13:54,000
to one model versus the other, be brutally honest,

6051
06:13:54,000 --> 06:13:57,000
normalcy doesn't cut any hyper-competitive global market,

6052
06:13:57,000 --> 06:13:58,800
doesn't cut it in a hyper-competitive global market

6053
06:13:58,800 --> 06:14:01,120
for technical talent, and if we pretend like it does,

6054
06:14:01,120 --> 06:14:03,080
we'll have our asses handed to us by China.

6055
06:14:03,080 --> 06:14:04,640
This can be our Sputnik moment.

6056
06:14:04,640 --> 06:14:07,160
We've awakened from slumber before, and we can do it again.

6057
06:14:07,160 --> 06:14:08,920
Trump's election hopefully marks the beginning

6058
06:14:08,920 --> 06:14:10,200
of a new golden era in America,

6059
06:14:10,200 --> 06:14:11,720
but only if our culture fully wakes up.

6060
06:14:11,720 --> 06:14:13,680
A culture that once again prioritizes achievement

6061
06:14:13,680 --> 06:14:16,680
over normalcy, excellence over mediocrity,

6062
06:14:16,680 --> 06:14:19,080
nerdiness over conformity, hard work over laziness.

6063
06:14:19,080 --> 06:14:20,760
That's the work we have cut out for us,

6064
06:14:20,760 --> 06:14:22,960
rather than wallowing in victimhood and just wishing

6065
06:14:22,960 --> 06:14:24,720
or legislating alternative hiring practices

6066
06:14:24,720 --> 06:14:26,960
into existence, I'm confident that we can do it.

6067
06:14:26,960 --> 06:14:30,280
So this exact same thing said by a white person

6068
06:14:30,280 --> 06:14:32,520
to a black community or a Hispanic community,

6069
06:14:32,520 --> 06:14:33,400
it would be fucking gold.

6070
06:14:33,400 --> 06:14:34,240
They would love it.

6071
06:14:34,240 --> 06:14:35,240
They would absolutely love it.

6072
06:14:35,240 --> 06:14:37,280
Yeah, this culture, these people are lazy.

6073
06:14:37,280 --> 06:14:40,580
But an Indian saying it to white people.

6074
06:14:40,580 --> 06:14:41,560
(exhales)

6075
06:14:41,560 --> 06:14:46,560
Ooh, he had 148,000 likes on this tweet.

6076
06:14:46,760 --> 06:14:49,280
He had 47,000 comments.

6077
06:14:49,280 --> 06:14:50,720
(exhales)

6078
06:14:50,720 --> 06:14:53,200
People were hella mad, dude.

6079
06:14:53,200 --> 06:14:55,120
White fucking trailer trash Americans

6080
06:14:55,120 --> 06:14:57,480
lost their fucking shit over this.

6081
06:14:57,480 --> 06:14:58,980
Oh my God.

6082
06:15:00,000 --> 06:15:10,920
Do I really need to start listing American inventors and what the world wouldn't have

6083
06:15:10,920 --> 06:15:12,120
without us?

6084
06:15:12,120 --> 06:15:16,660
I love also the melting pot, dude, any time, especially racist, sorry, not to be mean,

6085
06:15:16,660 --> 06:15:21,000
but like any time racist Americans want to talk about like achievements, man, you better

6086
06:15:21,000 --> 06:15:25,200
believe that white people and Americans in general all become the most melting potted

6087
06:15:25,200 --> 06:15:30,200
people in existence, they're like, "Hold on, look at what my culture has accomplished.

6088
06:15:30,200 --> 06:15:35,480
What about Kanye West and look at how good Michael Jordan, it's like they get, "Oh my

6089
06:15:35,480 --> 06:15:36,480
God."

6090
06:15:36,480 --> 06:15:42,480
Wait, why are people saying "band" and "bed"?

6091
06:15:42,480 --> 06:15:45,480
You said "melting pot."

6092
06:15:45,480 --> 06:15:47,480
Oh.

6093
06:15:47,480 --> 06:15:48,480
Oh.

6094
06:15:48,480 --> 06:15:49,480
No!

6095
06:15:49,480 --> 06:15:55,360
It's a nuke on one guy, real...

6096
06:15:55,360 --> 06:15:59,840
Turns out that waste that Doge wanted to cut from America was Americans.

6097
06:15:59,840 --> 06:16:04,000
This is thinly veiled ethnic resentment, masquerading as cultural analysis.

6098
06:16:04,000 --> 06:16:07,040
Your argument is that having a social life in a high school means worshiping mediocrity

6099
06:16:07,040 --> 06:16:10,280
and that Americans deserve to be replaced because their parents watch the wrong television

6100
06:16:10,280 --> 06:16:11,280
reruns?

6101
06:16:11,280 --> 06:16:21,800
Lameo, you've been waiting since you were nine years old to have the chance to post this.

6102
06:16:21,800 --> 06:16:28,600
Oh, man, dude, they got real mad on this one.

6103
06:16:28,600 --> 06:16:38,000
Do you not think H1P is about pay, not talent?

6104
06:16:38,000 --> 06:16:40,000
No, it's a combination of both.

6105
06:16:40,000 --> 06:16:41,800
Like, this is mainly talent.

6106
06:16:41,800 --> 06:16:45,600
Like, H1P are your high school workers, if you're in opposition to H1B, then you should

6107
06:16:45,600 --> 06:16:48,960
just say that you're in opposition to all immigration, or at least all non-white immigration.

6108
06:16:48,960 --> 06:16:53,800
The idea of being so ardently against H1B, that's like an immediate, like that's an immediate

6109
06:16:53,800 --> 06:16:54,800
return position.

6110
06:16:54,800 --> 06:16:55,800
Those are the best people we need to do.

6111
06:16:55,800 --> 06:16:59,600
Somebody's saying I'm oppositional to H1B, we should be the equivalent to you to have a

6112
06:16:59,600 --> 06:17:02,400
person come up and say, "Oh, I think that children are a legitimate source of food.

6113
06:17:02,400 --> 06:17:03,920
We should be able to eat them if they're less than three."

6114
06:17:03,920 --> 06:17:06,840
It's like one of the most retarded fucking statements.

6115
06:17:06,840 --> 06:17:09,960
You literally have a program that allows you to siphon the top talent from the rest of

6116
06:17:09,960 --> 06:17:14,880
the fucking world, and you're in opposition to it, because you want to give random retarded,

6117
06:17:14,880 --> 06:17:17,640
underachieving fucking Americans the opportunity to work jobs that they're not even fucking

6118
06:17:17,640 --> 06:17:18,640
qualified for.

6119
06:17:18,640 --> 06:17:21,080
CompSci, Comp Engineering people are like 1.9% unemployment.

6120
06:17:21,080 --> 06:17:24,440
It might be a little bit higher now, but these are some of the hardest to, like, there are

6121
06:17:24,440 --> 06:17:28,520
not that many people in the United States that are not working in these industries, or the

6122
06:17:28,520 --> 06:17:29,800
unemployment for these industries is really low.

6123
06:17:29,800 --> 06:17:32,400
If we even siphon talent from the rest of the world, we should obviously be doing it.

6124
06:17:32,400 --> 06:17:36,280
Like, just fucking the obsession with hating H1Bs is like, at that point, you're just

6125
06:17:36,280 --> 06:17:37,280
against all immigration.

6126
06:17:37,280 --> 06:17:39,880
Like, I don't want H1B, I don't want low-skill immigration.

6127
06:17:39,880 --> 06:17:41,160
Like, who do you want to come here then?

6128
06:17:41,160 --> 06:17:51,380
Like, what is your, what do you, in favor of prosecution for, like, it's cringe.

6129
06:17:51,380 --> 06:17:55,280
I feel like most of the people not in favor of H1Bs are just racists.

6130
06:17:55,280 --> 06:18:00,680
A lot of it is, you know?

6131
06:18:00,680 --> 06:18:08,000
Oh, Maddie's going after Hudge.

6132
06:18:08,000 --> 06:18:09,000
Nice.

6133
06:18:09,000 --> 06:18:11,640
You really are as dumb as you look.

6134
06:18:11,640 --> 06:18:20,120
Imagine somebody said that about him, he'd be calling him an Islamophobe, for the way.

6135
06:18:20,120 --> 06:18:21,120
Free Cooper and Mary Potter.

6136
06:18:21,120 --> 06:18:23,720
This is what you said in August in the Times about Abdul Al-Sayed.

6137
06:18:23,720 --> 06:18:28,360
Quote, "Can he outperform Roy Cooper and Mary Poltole by amounts to account for Michigan's

6138
06:18:28,360 --> 06:18:31,520
bluer part, does that mean the North Carolina or Alaska?

6139
06:18:31,520 --> 06:18:35,800
It's fair to have a debate," you wrote, "about the best direction of the party, but that debate

6140
06:18:35,800 --> 06:18:38,680
should be conducted in honest terms.

6141
06:18:38,680 --> 06:18:41,360
I read that and I think you're not being honest here, Matthew.

6142
06:18:41,360 --> 06:18:42,600
I'll be honest with you."

6143
06:18:42,600 --> 06:18:47,760
Comparing Al-Sayed to Cooper and Poltole is not just disingenuous, it's apples of orange.

6144
06:18:47,760 --> 06:18:49,640
Oh my God, dude.

6145
06:18:49,640 --> 06:18:52,440
You cannot ever criticize any of them ever.

6146
06:18:52,440 --> 06:18:53,440
It is not fair.

6147
06:18:53,440 --> 06:18:54,440
You can't...

6148
06:18:54,440 --> 06:18:58,360
Don't do not criticize, don't criticize any of my people.

6149
06:18:58,360 --> 06:18:59,360
There's never a reason.

6150
06:18:59,360 --> 06:19:00,360
Oh, my dude, I can't.

6151
06:19:00,360 --> 06:19:01,360
I'm sorry.

6152
06:19:01,360 --> 06:19:02,360
Whatever.

6153
06:19:02,360 --> 06:19:03,360
Just...

6154
06:19:03,360 --> 06:19:06,520
These are two very popular former statewide incumbents.

6155
06:19:06,520 --> 06:19:09,920
The talking point I hear from the redneck shits is that the Indians are faking their

6156
06:19:09,920 --> 06:19:11,040
diplomas in high schools.

6157
06:19:11,040 --> 06:19:12,340
What's the counter to that?

6158
06:19:12,340 --> 06:19:14,200
That's called coke.

6159
06:19:14,200 --> 06:19:17,600
So they're getting fake degrees and they're not learning real skills and then they come

6160
06:19:17,600 --> 06:19:21,280
to the United States where people are paying $10,000 for a visa so that they can't do the

6161
06:19:21,280 --> 06:19:22,280
job.

6162
06:19:22,280 --> 06:19:23,280
Do you think that...

6163
06:19:23,280 --> 06:19:24,280
What?

6164
06:19:24,280 --> 06:19:25,280
Like, at that point, fine, I guess.

6165
06:19:25,280 --> 06:19:26,960
And then I guess maybe conservatives just don't believe in capitalism anymore anyway because

6166
06:19:26,960 --> 06:19:28,400
literally nobody does, I guess.

6167
06:19:28,400 --> 06:19:32,040
But do you think that companies are paying money to bring over these workers and you have

6168
06:19:32,040 --> 06:19:35,160
to pay the sponsor for the visa for them to not even know how to do the job?

6169
06:19:35,160 --> 06:19:36,160
Like, what the fuck would the point of that be?

6170
06:19:36,160 --> 06:19:37,160
Why would they do that?

6171
06:19:37,160 --> 06:19:38,160
This is retarded.

6172
06:19:38,160 --> 06:19:42,280
Peltola was, obviously, a congressman in Alaska.

6173
06:19:42,280 --> 06:19:47,240
Roy Cooper was a two-term governor and four-time state AG.

6174
06:19:47,240 --> 06:19:48,920
Abdul Alsad has never been elected statewide.

6175
06:19:48,920 --> 06:19:51,280
I've never been elected to any office.

6176
06:19:51,280 --> 06:19:56,480
Plus, he's faced twice as much outside opposition spending against him as Cooper has.

6177
06:19:56,480 --> 06:20:00,000
More than three times as much money has been spent against him as against Peltola.

6178
06:20:00,000 --> 06:20:04,640
taller. So when you say he has to match their performances to be considered successful,

6179
06:20:04,640 --> 06:20:09,840
I find that to be just wrong. You're just not being honest. I mean, if you don't like that

6180
06:20:09,840 --> 06:20:13,440
comparison, we could compare him to Telerico. That's your comparison. That's correct.

6181
06:20:13,440 --> 06:20:17,600
I'm using your comparison. Those are the two. You got to move on to Telerico. What come to Telerico?

6182
06:20:17,600 --> 06:20:21,520
Do you accept that it's not fair to compare a guy who's never had statewide office?

6183
06:20:21,520 --> 06:20:26,400
You see the strategy, the thing I talked about earlier, right? They all have to defend each other

6184
06:20:26,400 --> 06:20:31,680
unconditionally. There is absolutely nothing that you can say that would be critical of any

6185
06:20:31,680 --> 06:20:35,600
of their people. You cannot criticize their side. They will always tell you why it's not the right

6186
06:20:35,600 --> 06:20:40,320
time, why it's an unfair comparison, why APAC Jews Israel, like there's never a way that you

6187
06:20:40,320 --> 06:20:43,680
can ever criticize anybody on the other side ever. Against two people who did. Look at how they

6188
06:20:43,680 --> 06:20:48,640
defended Plattner, Jesus. Do you accept that it's not fair to compare a guy who's never had

6189
06:20:48,640 --> 06:20:53,120
statewide office against two people who did and a guy who's had tripled the amount of money spent

6190
06:20:53,120 --> 06:20:58,240
against him as somebody in a lab? I want to bracket the money. I haven't brought in his faith yet.

6191
06:21:01,280 --> 06:21:10,400
I'm coming in here. You're a tough interviewer. I understand that. I want us to really deal with

6192
06:21:10,400 --> 06:21:17,520
these issues. I feel strongly about those. Do you? We want to get multiple data points, right?

6193
06:21:17,520 --> 06:21:24,080
This is not science. We unfortunately can't go to the lab and just run the experiment. It would

6194
06:21:24,080 --> 06:21:31,200
be lovely to use my multiverse camera and see how Mallory McMarra would have done. We get the

6195
06:21:31,200 --> 06:21:36,640
comparisons that we can get. We have other Senate candidates running in the same cycle,

6196
06:21:36,640 --> 06:21:40,000
but in different states. You have to make some kind of adjustment. Different scenario as well.

6197
06:21:40,000 --> 06:21:43,360
Sure. Or you can compare them. This is why I'm suggesting more recently,

6198
06:21:43,360 --> 06:21:46,960
compare the Senate candidate to the House candidates in their own districts.

6199
06:21:46,960 --> 06:21:50,400
And we'll see how we do it, right? Because there are certain House

6200
06:21:50,400 --> 06:21:54,720
Michigan House candidates who slock and ran weaker than and some that she ran stronger than.

6201
06:21:54,720 --> 06:21:58,240
Okay. So before we do that, I'm still going to ask the rest of the third time.

6202
06:21:58,240 --> 06:22:02,160
Uh-huh. Do you accept my critique of the comparison with Cooper and Fatima?

6203
06:22:02,160 --> 06:22:05,280
No, don't accept it. And if not, don't. I mean, yes and no.

6204
06:22:05,920 --> 06:22:09,680
You're not going to find any, I think it's maybe, like you're not going to find any one-to-one

6205
06:22:09,680 --> 06:22:13,520
comparison thing. That's ridiculous, okay? But it's like for you to just say that you can

6206
06:22:13,520 --> 06:22:17,520
hand wave that completely and now it's not relevant, it's dumb. Right? That it's different,

6207
06:22:17,520 --> 06:22:22,640
because Cooper is a very experienced politician. But you were criticizing the idea of going with

6208
06:22:22,640 --> 06:22:27,440
the safe pair of hands, right? I mean, worried Cooper is the definitional safe pair of hands,

6209
06:22:27,440 --> 06:22:33,520
can't it? Right? We know he has won over and over and over again statewide in North Carolina.

6210
06:22:33,520 --> 06:22:38,560
So if you want to say, well, that gives him a daunting advantage, that's an argument in favor

6211
06:22:38,560 --> 06:22:41,280
of going with the safe pair of hands. To be fair, I never said not to go with the safe pair of hands.

6212
06:22:41,280 --> 06:22:46,160
Sure. I've said that safe pair of hands don't always win. I don't know why doesn't anyone engage

6213
06:22:46,160 --> 06:22:52,160
with age one in these being used to suppress lower-level white collar wages. It seems to be the very

6214
06:22:52,160 --> 06:22:55,920
obvious reason for using them. They get legal slaves. What do you think the slave is?

6215
06:22:58,960 --> 06:23:05,520
Stream disagreements channel, let's bring you in. Avgell, and you can come and debate about it.

6216
06:23:05,520 --> 06:23:12,800
I'd love to hear it.

6217
06:23:17,920 --> 06:23:21,760
Oh, it's indentured slavery is when you pay them super low wages to keep them in the country. Oh,

6218
06:23:21,760 --> 06:23:29,280
my God. The poor, the poor Indians getting tricked into coming. That is a fair complaint,

6219
06:23:29,280 --> 06:23:33,520
because I've heard that so often. All the poor Indians who are, I went to the United States of

6220
06:23:33,520 --> 06:23:39,200
America on my H1B and how I'm forced to work in my white collar job all day. And it's just,

6221
06:23:39,200 --> 06:23:43,920
it's terrible and horrible. They want to go back. Oh, my, let me go back, please. I want to go to

6222
06:23:43,920 --> 06:23:49,040
China instead. I want to go to, I don't know, the UK. I don't know where else.

6223
06:23:54,960 --> 06:23:59,120
This guy ain't joining. I don't know why I try. The Indians are fine. It's the rest of the market

6224
06:23:59,120 --> 06:24:02,720
that gets cocked because they'll accept lower wages to state in America messing with the market.

6225
06:24:02,720 --> 06:24:06,960
What do you mean messing with the market? Every single time you increase the availability of any

6226
06:24:06,960 --> 06:24:11,600
type of labor, you're quote unquote messing with the market. But that's an arbitrary and pointless

6227
06:24:11,600 --> 06:24:16,480
thing to say. That's like saying, we need to demolish all schools right now. Schools are literally,

6228
06:24:16,480 --> 06:24:22,000
they're literally suppressing wages of all white collar workers. You accept that, right? That every

6229
06:24:22,000 --> 06:24:25,760
single higher educational institution in the United States of America is suppressing white

6230
06:24:25,760 --> 06:24:30,080
collar wages, because they're training more people in jobs and getting engineering degrees,

6231
06:24:30,080 --> 06:24:32,880
which is allowing these people to go out into the job market, which is suppressing wages because

6232
06:24:32,880 --> 06:24:36,560
the people could command a higher demand for wages there otherwise, right? Would you accept that

6233
06:24:36,560 --> 06:24:40,720
argument that all colleges, we should end all colleges right now because they're suppressing wages

6234
06:24:40,720 --> 06:24:45,120
in our labor market? No, that's retarded. That's a stupid thing. Obviously, if there are less workers

6235
06:24:45,120 --> 06:24:48,960
in any given class of worker, there's going to be higher wages, but that's not always a good thing.

6236
06:24:48,960 --> 06:24:52,720
You don't want the unemployment in a field to be like fucking 0.5 fucking percent, so that these

6237
06:24:52,720 --> 06:24:57,520
people are getting paid $900,000 a year or the whole industry just go bankrupt. The people that are

6238
06:24:57,520 --> 06:25:00,000
Applying for H1B's are supposed to show that they made a good face

6239
06:25:00,000 --> 06:25:02,560
effort to get employment in the United States person. They can't find the

6240
06:25:02,560 --> 06:25:05,200
employee in the United States first then they can do the H1B program where they

6241
06:25:05,200 --> 06:25:09,360
pay $10,000 a sponsor of Visa to bring a person over and work. Now people will

6242
06:25:09,360 --> 06:25:12,640
claim without any evidence always that every single person is actually just

6243
06:25:12,640 --> 06:25:15,280
scamming and they're not actually making any effort whatsoever to find any of

6244
06:25:15,280 --> 06:25:18,160
these people. That's never been demonstrated. That's always just said and

6245
06:25:18,160 --> 06:25:21,520
given as a true thing without any evidence whatsoever. But so I mean like I

6246
06:25:21,520 --> 06:25:25,320
don't know we just we literally just gonna are gonna cuck our entire fucking we're

6247
06:25:25,320 --> 06:25:28,080
gonna cuck the ability for us to take the most talented workers around the

6248
06:25:28,080 --> 06:25:33,840
planet. Okay number one and then number two hurt our own industry because we

6249
06:25:33,840 --> 06:25:41,640
because reason is stupid. Fuck off. Stop. Join Discord to go to talk about it.

6250
06:25:41,640 --> 06:25:46,560
No he you said he didn't want to. Well I they never want to because they're all

6251
06:25:46,560 --> 06:25:53,600
scared. What is your discord? There's two people in there. I gotta figure out

6252
06:25:53,600 --> 06:25:56,840
which one it is. Oh boy.

6253
06:26:11,720 --> 06:26:15,320
Why the fuck do people assume the H1B worker makes less money? My guess is on

6254
06:26:15,320 --> 06:26:17,280
average they probably make less money because most of them are gonna be intro

6255
06:26:17,280 --> 06:26:21,360
jobs or they're gonna be getting hired immediately and they're probably not

6256
06:26:21,360 --> 06:26:24,200
gonna have more impressive credentials than somebody who is highly credentialed

6257
06:26:24,200 --> 06:26:28,180
in the American system. They're gonna be my guess.

6258
06:26:37,920 --> 06:26:44,600
I'm not there I'm eating food. That's a classic. What do you want me to say? It's

6259
06:26:44,600 --> 06:27:13,280
just gonna get a cold man. Jesus. Huge news.

6260
06:27:13,280 --> 06:27:18,860
For all new petitions including those in the United Kingdom. This is one month ago.

6261
06:27:18,860 --> 06:27:32,680
Why am I getting like this? Huge news. I did states. Thank H1B's.

6262
06:27:35,000 --> 06:27:43,120
God I move to can't. Oh man. Oh bro. We really miss the bullet. No we don't have to

6263
06:27:43,120 --> 06:27:45,680
put on this one. That's crazy. There you go. There's yours now guys. You've got to

6264
06:27:45,680 --> 06:27:48,280
deal with them. Oh my god. You'll be learning French now and that's it. Of

6265
06:27:48,280 --> 06:27:50,480
course for a while now I've been coming in terms of whoever throws at me fair or unfair.

6266
06:27:50,480 --> 06:27:52,600
I've been grateful for the opportunity to study and work in the US. Save a good

6267
06:27:52,600 --> 06:27:54,360
bit and experience an amazing life here. If it doesn't work out I'll be okay. I

6268
06:27:54,360 --> 06:27:56,320
still have a place to go to home and rebuild again. That said I probably wouldn't

6269
06:27:56,320 --> 06:27:58,640
risk doing a Masters in 2026 given all the restrictions in place. Maybe this guy

6270
06:27:58,640 --> 06:28:01,000
can stay. He seems like he's all right and we can keep him and send one of the

6271
06:28:01,000 --> 06:28:03,880
fat Karens that wants to add you know gender parties to kindergarten. We can

6272
06:28:03,880 --> 06:28:07,440
send her to India instead. Nope. I'm joking. I want him all gone too. But yeah but I

6273
06:28:07,440 --> 06:28:11,360
mean I'm okay with some of it. I am ironically okay with some immigration.

6274
06:28:11,360 --> 06:28:13,680
It's like high skilled and targeted immigration but what I'm worried about.

6275
06:28:13,680 --> 06:28:18,400
This is my age when B's are. That's literally what age would be is. Is that

6276
06:28:18,400 --> 06:28:20,800
well one of them right with the H1B stuff is that it basically it's kind of

6277
06:28:20,800 --> 06:28:22,920
like teach a man to fish. You can feed him forever. Give a man a fish. You only

6278
06:28:22,920 --> 06:28:24,840
feed him for a day or the other way around right. I think that we're giving a

6279
06:28:24,840 --> 06:28:27,080
man a fish in the situation instead of looking at the structural problems for

6280
06:28:27,080 --> 06:28:29,920
why we don't have this type of talent in our country. We are putting a band-aid on

6281
06:28:29,920 --> 06:28:32,240
it and saying okay well we'll just bring over a bunch of Indians and a bunch of

6282
06:28:32,240 --> 06:28:35,680
Chinese people to solve the problem. I mean maybe you can argue that to some

6283
06:28:35,680 --> 06:28:37,640
extent but then also Americans don't want to talk about improving their

6284
06:28:37,640 --> 06:28:41,320
education system anyway. So you deserve it. Every Americans deserve to have their

6285
06:28:41,320 --> 06:28:44,720
shit replaced by other workers because you're too fucking proud or whatever to

6286
06:28:44,720 --> 06:28:50,200
actually do an actual change in how your system works anyways.

6287
06:29:01,040 --> 06:29:04,280
Whenever the real problem is education. Whenever the real problem is funding and

6288
06:29:04,280 --> 06:29:06,680
so how are you ever going to solve this problem in the long term with our you

6289
06:29:06,680 --> 06:29:09,040
know lack of engineers or lack of innovators because we're always going to

6290
06:29:09,040 --> 06:29:10,480
have great innovators from around the world and you want to make sure that they

6291
06:29:10,480 --> 06:29:13,680
can come to America. Whether it's fucking Oppenheimer Einstein fucking Ewan Musk or

6292
06:29:13,680 --> 06:29:16,000
anybody else right. Those are the top three to come to mind. You want these

6293
06:29:16,000 --> 06:29:17,760
people to come to America and you want them to build business this year and

6294
06:29:17,760 --> 06:29:20,280
that's a good thing but overwhelmingly why do we not have more of those people

6295
06:29:20,280 --> 06:29:24,360
here in America. Everything you say is correct. ReH1B is however companies do

6296
06:29:24,360 --> 06:29:29,000
abuse those visas. Companies abuse everything. Every person on the planet

6297
06:29:29,000 --> 06:29:33,080
abuses everything. There are people that bite other human beings. It doesn't mean

6298
06:29:33,080 --> 06:29:35,920
we should rip everybody's teeth out. What do you want a worthless fucking

6299
06:29:35,920 --> 06:29:39,400
statement. I'm sure companies abuse H1Bs just like companies underpay workers

6300
06:29:39,400 --> 06:29:43,400
and don't always pay out overtime and probably short you on fucking benefits

6301
06:29:43,400 --> 06:29:46,680
sometimes. What a retardedly stupid fucking ignorant pointless thing to say.

6302
06:29:46,680 --> 06:29:49,200
What a pointless contribution discussion. What were you thinking in your mind when

6303
06:29:49,200 --> 06:29:55,240
you type that into chat. Company the abuse company the abuse age. What kind of

6304
06:29:55,240 --> 06:29:57,900
argument is that

6305
06:29:57,900 --> 06:29:58,160
stop

6306
06:30:00,000 --> 06:30:09,840
stopping. Is there anything that could make you because a lot of Republicans

6307
06:30:09,840 --> 06:30:14,320
now say we've had enough make you not be loyal to whatever he was doing no Prince

6308
06:30:14,320 --> 06:30:17,880
so we shouldn't address the issue destiny's being a country card yes how did you

6309
06:30:17,880 --> 06:30:24,080
know how did you divide destiny says destiny says hey just because there might

6310
06:30:24,080 --> 06:30:28,280
be some issue with a thing doesn't mean we could we should completely toss that

6311
06:30:28,280 --> 06:30:30,580
out entirely right doesn't mean you get rid of the entire thing doesn't make

6312
06:30:30,580 --> 06:30:35,720
sense genius chatters interpretation oh my god destiny says we should never

6313
06:30:35,720 --> 06:30:38,880
fix any problem ever with this thing and he wants to know all the problems and

6314
06:30:38,880 --> 06:30:40,760
that's exactly what he just said because he doesn't want to get rid of the

6315
06:30:40,760 --> 06:30:43,880
entire thing is a small problem I've identified

6316
06:30:43,880 --> 06:30:48,120
not be loyal to whatever he was doing is this principal is it more important than

6317
06:30:48,120 --> 06:30:50,600
person there is the person always more important well look you know my

6318
06:30:50,600 --> 06:30:53,520
relationship with the president obviously he was my boss but to me he's also a

6319
06:30:53,520 --> 06:30:55,680
friend and he gave me the opportunity of a lifetime I mean I don't think I'd be

6320
06:30:55,680 --> 06:30:57,960
sitting on your show right now if not for him giving me that chance so I'm

6321
06:30:57,960 --> 06:31:00,700
grateful for that always will be and I've also seen him behind the scenes as you

6322
06:31:00,700 --> 06:31:03,440
have and I know it's hard and I know he loves this country he wants to do what's

6323
06:31:03,440 --> 06:31:05,760
right and that's who he's always been to me he's been nothing but kind of

6324
06:31:05,760 --> 06:31:08,560
lifting and purging he did name me the youngest press secretary ever and a lot

6325
06:31:08,560 --> 06:31:10,880
of people told him he shouldn't he shouldn't he told me that he said honey

6326
06:31:10,880 --> 06:31:13,360
lots of people said you were too young and I told him I was building buildings

6327
06:31:13,360 --> 06:31:15,840
in Manhattan when I was your age and you can do it and I am indebted to him for

6328
06:31:15,840 --> 06:31:20,360
that and and I am very grateful for that so no there's nothing he could do

6329
06:31:20,360 --> 06:31:34,840
that would make you not be loyal to him okay nice anyway

6330
06:31:36,880 --> 06:31:41,080
open back the Azna gold sloppa it's a month-old video on H1B's he hates

6331
06:31:41,080 --> 06:31:44,880
Indians what do you want to say for all new petitions Indians he hates

6332
06:31:44,880 --> 06:31:48,400
color I've been saying for the opportunity to study and work in the US

6333
06:31:48,400 --> 06:31:51,880
safety I'm joking I want them all gone to but yeah but I mean to be fair I'm

6334
06:31:51,880 --> 06:31:55,840
okay with some of it right I am I'm unironically okay with some immigration

6335
06:31:55,840 --> 06:31:58,480
that's like high-skilled and targeted immigration but what I'm worried about

6336
06:31:58,480 --> 06:32:01,200
this is my issue with immigration is not what one of them right with the H1B

6337
06:32:01,200 --> 06:32:04,240
stuff is not it read my last two measures matrix what do you want me to say who's

6338
06:32:04,240 --> 06:32:07,800
saying like I don't know what to say you're triggering a bit you talk about

6339
06:32:07,800 --> 06:32:10,040
programs like these like they are amazing my mom was a nurse in Ethiopia

6340
06:32:10,040 --> 06:32:12,480
she got a visa to come to Canada work it's complicated so conflicted as I love

6341
06:32:12,480 --> 06:32:14,800
Canada but she could have helped people my own country okay I agree we should get

6342
06:32:14,800 --> 06:32:18,120
rid of him fuck your mom for wanting to do anything better for her family she

6343
06:32:18,120 --> 06:32:21,480
should have stayed in Ethiopia and either starved and died in some civil war or

6344
06:32:21,480 --> 06:32:23,880
then it lived a shit your life there and the opportunity for her to go to another

6345
06:32:23,880 --> 06:32:26,520
country and make a better life for you and her children was retarded she should

6346
06:32:26,520 --> 06:32:29,600
have stayed there and maybe whatever whatever the fuck would happen nobody

6347
06:32:29,600 --> 06:32:33,400
should ever leave the place they're born when we have people that are born we

6348
06:32:33,400 --> 06:32:38,400
should leash them and keep them on a 10 kilometer leash so they can never ever

6349
06:32:38,400 --> 06:32:42,640
if they want to travel to America then you can travel over 100 generations 10

6350
06:32:42,640 --> 06:32:46,200
kilometers at a time where you have a new child born and there's a stake in the

6351
06:32:46,200 --> 06:32:51,040
ground right there 10 kilometers that's it no traveling no emigrating no leaving

6352
06:32:51,040 --> 06:32:55,400
your country ever stay where you're at and help your own people basically it's

6353
06:32:55,400 --> 06:32:57,920
kind of like teach a man to fish you can feed him forever give a man a fish you

6354
06:32:57,920 --> 06:32:59,960
only feed him for a day or the other way around right I think that we're

6355
06:32:59,960 --> 06:33:02,360
giving a man a fish in the situation instead of looking at the structural

6356
06:33:02,360 --> 06:33:05,360
problems for why we don't have this type of talent in our country we are

6357
06:33:05,360 --> 06:33:07,760
putting a band-aid on it and saying that oh okay well we'll just bring over a

6358
06:33:07,760 --> 06:33:10,440
bunch of Indians and a bunch of Chinese people to solve the problem whenever the

6359
06:33:10,440 --> 06:33:13,560
real problem is education whenever the real problem is funding and so you guys

6360
06:33:13,560 --> 06:33:16,200
don't want to do you guys got the Department of Education though and you

6361
06:33:16,200 --> 06:33:20,640
don't want to change the education in the United States you imagine unironically

6362
06:33:20,640 --> 06:33:26,160
looking at somebody and saying oh huh you want to bring in foreign workers because

6363
06:33:26,160 --> 06:33:28,560
you don't want to educate Americans to do the job it's like okay fine you're

6364
06:33:28,560 --> 06:33:30,800
right let's do better on education in America what do you think we should do

6365
06:33:30,800 --> 06:33:34,960
huh well we should let Alabama and Louisiana handle their own educational

6366
06:33:34,960 --> 06:33:38,360
systems and goddamn it if they want to dedicate dedicate a class to reading the

6367
06:33:38,360 --> 06:33:42,720
fucking Bible okay for one class of semester up until they graduate high

6368
06:33:42,720 --> 06:33:45,800
school then goddamn they should be allowed to do it okay like what how are you

6369
06:33:45,800 --> 06:33:48,240
ever going to solve this problem in the long term with our you know lack of

6370
06:33:48,240 --> 06:33:50,800
engineers or lack of innovators because we're always going to have great

6371
06:33:50,800 --> 06:33:52,440
innovators from around the world and you want to make sure that they can come to

6372
06:33:52,440 --> 06:33:56,160
America whether it's fucking Oppenheimer Einstein that's not always true that we

6373
06:33:56,160 --> 06:33:59,400
that we have great people from around the world no matter what that's a that

6374
06:33:59,400 --> 06:34:02,760
was an intent like people talk passively about the United States like it just

6375
06:34:02,760 --> 06:34:07,920
like happened on accident that that like it's like a it's like a 16 year old

6376
06:34:07,920 --> 06:34:12,040
boy like leaving his food you know all over the fucking kitchen and then he

6377
06:34:12,040 --> 06:34:14,440
comes downstairs like the next day and he's like yeah somehow it's just gone

6378
06:34:14,440 --> 06:34:17,160
every time it just vanishes I don't even know what's going on here but it's some

6379
06:34:17,160 --> 06:34:19,920
fucking mystical magical shit and I'm just so grateful that it happens and you

6380
06:34:19,920 --> 06:34:22,920
know whatever it is you know good good for that it's like this it these things

6381
06:34:22,920 --> 06:34:25,560
aren't happening on accident right it's happening because America is an

6382
06:34:25,560 --> 06:34:28,320
occlusive place that welcomes all sorts of other people when he's talking about

6383
06:34:28,320 --> 06:34:30,680
people like Einstein should be the real literally persecuted by nations that

6384
06:34:30,680 --> 06:34:37,720
are resembling ideologies that as well as fucking you on musk or anybody else

6385
06:34:37,720 --> 06:34:40,160
right those are the top three to come to mind you want these people to come to

6386
06:34:40,160 --> 06:34:42,160
America and you want them to build businesses here and that's a good thing

6387
06:34:42,160 --> 06:34:45,080
but overwhelmingly why do we not have more of those people here in America now

6388
06:34:45,080 --> 06:34:47,920
why do we not have this you I must yeah I think he's a pretty pretty successful

6389
06:34:47,920 --> 06:34:50,700
businessman yeah absolutely I mean I would say he's a big yay I mean fucking

6390
06:34:50,700 --> 06:34:53,400
built Tesla up to be massive built SpaceX like what the fuck like yeah I

6391
06:34:53,400 --> 06:34:56,160
think that's a good thing and remittances first yes I'm talking about like a

6392
06:34:56,160 --> 06:34:59,320
literal like going from like 90 from like 100% to like 2% by the way I'm

6393
06:34:59,320 --> 06:35:01,080
I'm not talking about going from a hood.

6394
06:35:00,000 --> 06:35:03,560
Like a hundred percent to two percent and so yeah, I like the two percent number in general

6395
06:35:03,560 --> 06:35:06,280
So the h1b changes are fuck of what?

6396
06:35:06,280 --> 06:35:11,000
I don't even know what he's saying is that the percentage of new h1b's we're gonna accept because they tried to do this

6397
06:35:11,000 --> 06:35:12,760
I don't know if they still have this hundred thousand dollar limit

6398
06:35:12,760 --> 06:35:16,040
I heard that when they after they put this in they basically got nobody they just destroyed the age 1b system which

6399
06:35:16,240 --> 06:35:19,280
Good job, America being insane. Let me see if I can show you this here

6400
06:35:19,840 --> 06:35:22,160
H1b it changes take a look at this

6401
06:35:22,800 --> 06:35:28,520
Extreme about news today their rules for h1b so and their new fee this will devastate America's abilities to attract and retain the world's top talent in virtually

6402
06:35:28,520 --> 06:35:30,800
Every domain health care drug discovery engineering, etc

6403
06:35:30,800 --> 06:35:33,840
I'm sorry to say but if you have somebody who's actual top talent

6404
06:35:33,840 --> 06:35:36,840
You're gonna do you know that these people like for AI engineers like top level AI engineers?

6405
06:35:36,840 --> 06:35:41,000
These guys are getting offers in the tens of millions of dollars like anybody who's actually a top level performer

6406
06:35:41,000 --> 06:35:44,200
Any company is gonna pay the hundred grand out just to get them over no matter what a hundred

6407
06:35:45,200 --> 06:35:51,880
Top-level talent doesn't mean like the best of the best of the best in the United States anybody

6408
06:35:52,720 --> 06:35:58,280
My guess is gonna be worldwide anybody with a bachelor's is probably anybody with a four-year degree is probably top-level talent

6409
06:35:58,280 --> 06:36:00,280
in terms of worldwide

6410
06:36:01,080 --> 06:36:03,880
Worldwide skills skillset specialization or whatever

6411
06:36:05,000 --> 06:36:10,080
It's we don't only need like the best of the best of the best of the best of the best of the best of the best right people

6412
06:36:10,080 --> 06:36:15,860
They're graduating colleges in other countries and are able and want to come here to work. These are this is top-level worldwide talent

6413
06:36:16,920 --> 06:36:22,240
Grand is like a bargain for somebody that actually should be in America because of how exceptional they are. That's the truth 100k is nothing

6414
06:36:22,400 --> 06:36:25,720
They're gonna wave that feet. Yeah, sure right and it will to be fair. They're yeah, they will because it's a different visa

6415
06:36:25,720 --> 06:36:30,640
That's an O2 visa or an O1 visa or whatever, right? So yeah, you're right. I'm sponsored to be in the country. Yes. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah, 500k for your salaries

6416
06:36:30,640 --> 06:36:35,120
Yeah, these guys are one O1 visas are not H1B's is a different. This is like an exceptional

6417
06:36:35,520 --> 06:36:39,840
Like ultra super duper talent and paid ridiculous amounts of money. Well, some of the changes are going for the views

6418
06:36:39,840 --> 06:36:43,520
Others are incredibly cruel preventing a spouse from working prevents him puts immense pressure on a family

6419
06:36:43,520 --> 06:36:46,440
We cannot bring in amazing talent and then put handcuffs on our family to realize the American dream

6420
06:36:46,440 --> 06:36:51,600
Yeah, we can because it's not their dream. They're fucking Indian they're from Singapore and I don't have anything against Singaporeans

6421
06:36:51,600 --> 06:36:54,760
I don't have anything against Indians, but it's not their dream. It's ours. So that's it

6422
06:36:55,000 --> 06:36:59,120
Yeah, yeah, you don't want to have anchor babies in the country. You don't want to have this happen. Top town is O1B. Yeah, exactly

6423
06:36:59,120 --> 06:37:01,040
It's not gonna be related. I know that now it's what I'm talking about, right?

6424
06:37:01,040 --> 06:37:04,560
So yeah, I just handed in my resignation at Google zero integrity resign fuck you Google Maps

6425
06:37:05,200 --> 06:37:09,480
Somebody resigned at Google because they changed Lake Ontario to Lake America. Yeah, what a great idea

6426
06:37:09,480 --> 06:37:14,760
Let's burn down the relationship that you have with the White House over a body of water. Let's do that. Yeah, this that sounds like a really good idea

6427
06:37:14,760 --> 06:37:19,960
Let's make a meaningless point of resistance so we can get ourselves blacklisted by the president of the United States

6428
06:37:19,960 --> 06:37:24,720
What a smart thing to do. This is the idea. This is this is the morality of a child. It's completely ridiculous

6429
06:37:25,560 --> 06:37:27,720
Capita is better than higher than the US. I mean again

6430
06:37:27,720 --> 06:37:28,920
I respect Singapore a lot

6431
06:37:28,920 --> 06:37:34,560
They made the oblivion game that we played they like these are people who are ready to fucking go to war because they didn't make the

6432
06:37:34,840 --> 06:37:39,280
Because they didn't put like pretty boobs on the new fucking God of War lady

6433
06:37:39,760 --> 06:37:46,880
And and now you talk about like renaming historic lakes some of the largest in the world. Oh, no, why do you even fucking care? I?

6434
06:37:47,440 --> 06:37:49,400
Think they have their shit together better than we do in a lot of ways

6435
06:37:49,400 --> 06:37:53,400
I wish we do things more like they do you can go and look at Singapore right now in Google Maps and everything looks pretty fucking clean

6436
06:37:53,400 --> 06:37:55,840
Meanwhile, you will get Los Angeles and it looks like children of men

6437
06:37:55,840 --> 06:37:57,720
So I'm not even trying to say anything negative about them

6438
06:37:57,720 --> 06:38:01,000
I'm trying to say that they need to stay over there and mean to figure out shit out. That's why that's my point

6439
06:38:01,000 --> 06:38:03,000
Yeah, more Pegasus is from Singapore true

6440
06:38:07,640 --> 06:38:11,080
Yeah, but the age one changes like Trump is actually doing this which I'm very glad I'm extremely glad about this

6441
06:38:11,440 --> 06:38:16,080
White South Africans fleeing persecution can now receive up to four thousand five hundred dollars per person an initial federal aid

6442
06:38:16,080 --> 06:38:21,640
If they move to the US's refugees up to two thousand up from two thousand four hundred white South Africans have made up 99% of new refugees this year

6443
06:38:22,040 --> 06:38:25,480
I'm kind of mixed on this in a way because I don't know how base they are

6444
06:38:25,480 --> 06:38:29,560
Like I don't want to have this is one of the refugees it better be a hot chick if you're linking you one of the refugees

6445
06:38:29,560 --> 06:38:34,420
This is better be a hot girl. Also. This is super gross, but it's a guy. Okay. All right. Let me listen to what he's saying

6446
06:38:49,080 --> 06:38:51,080
Why

6447
06:38:51,080 --> 06:38:53,080
Why

6448
06:38:54,360 --> 06:38:57,520
We I don't see what what is it about him that?

6449
06:38:59,960 --> 06:39:01,960
I do and

6450
06:39:02,560 --> 06:39:04,560
Okay

6451
06:39:05,160 --> 06:39:09,000
Where's the food that looks like grass to me? That doesn't look like food back there

6452
06:39:09,000 --> 06:39:13,280
It looks like he's mowing the goddamn lawn. I'm not seeing any food at all over there, okay?

6453
06:39:14,400 --> 06:39:17,320
It looks like he's in a lawn mower. That's what I'm seeing

6454
06:39:19,760 --> 06:39:25,720
Okay, yeah, you can say so I absolutely have an immigration tier with I do and it's exactly what you think it is

6455
06:39:26,400 --> 06:39:29,720
It's exactly what you think it is and anything other than that is your target

6456
06:39:32,280 --> 06:39:34,280
Be white sound right good to go

6457
06:39:35,440 --> 06:39:37,080
this

6458
06:39:37,080 --> 06:39:41,600
Imagine thinking that you're gonna have the same average quality of immigrants from Zimbabwe is you're gonna hang out from Norway

6459
06:39:41,920 --> 06:39:46,720
Like I mean does anybody really think this does anybody actually believe this you've got to be fucking retarded to believe this

6460
06:39:46,720 --> 06:39:50,720
So yes, and bro looks already assimilated. It's crazy how easy it is for people to assimilate basically

6461
06:39:50,720 --> 06:39:55,360
I would I would create a tier list and immigration and migration from other western countries

6462
06:39:55,360 --> 06:40:00,000
I would put at a higher like a higher priority than immigration from non-western countries like I have a

6463
06:40:00,000 --> 06:40:03,760
multiple tiers, right? So like the first tier would be like Western first world country. So like

6464
06:40:03,760 --> 06:40:08,960
Britain, Germany, France, Portugal, Spain, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, you know, I can think of maybe

6465
06:40:08,960 --> 06:40:14,400
two more, right? So that's like tier one immigration. It's the fucking it's the.

6466
06:40:20,480 --> 06:40:25,680
It's the this is husband gold's fucking immigration thing. What the fuck, bro?

6467
06:40:26,880 --> 06:40:35,360
Oh man. Year two immigration would be places like Japan, Singapore, probably maybe Russia,

6468
06:40:35,360 --> 06:40:38,560
right? Russia might be tier three, Poland would be in tier one, probably China at this point

6469
06:40:38,560 --> 06:40:43,760
to would be tier two immigration, Serbia, yeah, like some of the Balkan countries. Oh no. And then

6470
06:40:43,760 --> 06:40:47,280
Argentina, El Salvador, right? El Salvador might even be at tier one at this point, right? Italy,

6471
06:40:47,280 --> 06:40:50,080
yeah, Italy would be tier one because it's a European Western country. And then you have tier

6472
06:40:50,080 --> 06:40:53,120
three, which would be kind of like your, you know, general countries, probably in a lot of places

6473
06:40:53,120 --> 06:40:56,240
in the Middle East, generally Iran, I'd probably put as a tier two country exclusively because

6474
06:40:56,240 --> 06:41:00,320
culturally they're on tier four for for, you know, which ones rent and obviously they're

6475
06:41:00,320 --> 06:41:03,040
governments awful. And it seems like Iranians integrate really well into America. I would put

6476
06:41:03,040 --> 06:41:06,880
Iranian above the other ones, honestly, but besides that right South Korea, South Korea would be tier

6477
06:41:06,880 --> 06:41:10,720
two, right? And so Canada, tier six, well, India, like where would I put India? That's what you're

6478
06:41:10,720 --> 06:41:14,880
really asking. I would put India at like tier three or four, right? Because they're not Western,

6479
06:41:14,880 --> 06:41:17,680
they don't speak English, totally different culture. There's a huge scamming problem over

6480
06:41:17,680 --> 06:41:20,880
there. And there's a huge problem with integration, right? So I wouldn't want to like, and this is

6481
06:41:20,880 --> 06:41:23,760
common sense, by the way, it's all common sense that you would do. So here's this real common sense.

6482
06:41:24,640 --> 06:41:28,080
Israel would be like tier two, I would say, right? It would be a high tier two, low tier one,

6483
06:41:28,080 --> 06:41:30,800
but it would certainly be tier two country, because it's like, it's kind of a Western country,

6484
06:41:30,800 --> 06:41:33,520
but it's also in the Middle East. So I'd say that, yeah, do we have another example? Like,

6485
06:41:33,520 --> 06:41:36,960
I'll do a tier with this whole thing. I will, more sentimental island, probably tier five,

6486
06:41:36,960 --> 06:41:40,240
tier five or six. Yeah. And Indians worth your year zero. Yeah, Mexico, tier three,

6487
06:41:41,040 --> 06:41:44,240
tier three for sure. And Columbia, high tier three, high tier three,

6488
06:41:44,240 --> 06:41:47,760
improving late tier three, more tier three now with a new president. But you know, approaching

6489
06:41:47,760 --> 06:41:52,080
tier two, if they can get a shit together. So now we have a new president. Okay. And Congo,

6490
06:41:52,080 --> 06:41:56,640
a racial trans morgue of the entire country or five, like that's like the lowest one, right.

6491
06:41:56,640 --> 06:42:03,600
And France tier one, Morocco tier three, Greece tier one, Mexico's at least two, I would, like,

6492
06:42:03,600 --> 06:42:06,160
I'd be willing to put Mexico at two if they could get their shit together with the cartels.

6493
06:42:06,960 --> 06:42:09,600
I would, I would be more than willing to put Mexico, if they can get their shit together with

6494
06:42:09,600 --> 06:42:12,880
cartels, it would be okay. But right now they just don't have that. Like, that's the only big issue

6495
06:42:12,880 --> 06:42:16,640
that they have. I would say, Saudi Arabia, UAE, I'd say that's tier three, like very, very high tier

6496
06:42:16,640 --> 06:42:21,200
three, UAE, like UAE Qatar might actually even be tier two at this point, right? I don't know,

6497
06:42:21,200 --> 06:42:24,080
but like it's very, very high tier three low tier two, right? Somewhere around there. I'd say,

6498
06:42:24,080 --> 06:42:28,000
yeah, at that point, Russia probably tier two or three, Greece is a Ireland tier one,

6499
06:42:28,960 --> 06:42:35,360
Argentina tier two, Iraq tier four, South Korea tier two, Dominican Republic tier three,

6500
06:42:35,360 --> 06:42:40,480
Philippines tier high three low two, Japan high tier two, like actually have all this thought out.

6501
06:42:41,360 --> 06:42:43,840
Yeah. And there's like literally a tier list of countries in my head, Sweden tier one,

6502
06:42:44,640 --> 06:42:49,840
China tier two, Kenya tier, Kenya tier, probably like tier three, not tier four,

6503
06:42:49,840 --> 06:42:53,120
Kenya's pretty like they're trying to get their shit together, right? So I'd say probably tier three,

6504
06:42:53,120 --> 06:42:57,360
probably same as Morocco, like Morocco, Morocco, Kenya, and I think there's one other

6505
06:42:57,360 --> 06:42:59,600
Somalia land, maybe if they can get their shit together, they would be tier three.

6506
06:43:03,040 --> 06:43:05,680
Oh, that again? That's basically Italy, right? I mean, let's go. What if they're hot ladies in

6507
06:43:05,680 --> 06:43:09,360
those countries? Oh, no, tier one. Yeah. So that's really what I would do. That would be it. And I

6508
06:43:09,360 --> 06:43:13,520
think by the way, any policy other than this is retarded. Anybody who doesn't recognize this is

6509
06:43:13,520 --> 06:43:16,640
just common sense is obviously like, yeah, obviously, you should tier out immigration. Yeah,

6510
06:43:16,640 --> 06:43:19,360
obviously, it should be based off of cultural cohesiveness. Yeah, obviously, it should be about

6511
06:43:19,360 --> 06:43:22,480
language barriers. Yeah, obviously, it should be about religion and the local laws there. Like,

6512
06:43:22,480 --> 06:43:25,760
I'm not going to put somebody on the same level that believes in female genital mutilation and

6513
06:43:25,760 --> 06:43:29,520
marrying girls at nine years old with a British person that, you know, fought with us in World War

6514
06:43:29,520 --> 06:43:33,600
II. Obviously. Like, it's just not going to happen. Reminder British people after World War II,

6515
06:43:34,640 --> 06:43:40,480
literally fucking chemically castrated until he fucking killed himself, the fucking allenturing,

6516
06:43:40,480 --> 06:43:46,000
dude, but based. Okay. Duh, of course. Everybody should agree with this. This is a great thing.

6517
06:43:46,000 --> 06:43:48,640
Obviously, Mike South Africans share them in there. Yeah, let's see your rights in South Africa.

6518
06:43:48,640 --> 06:43:51,040
I don't know what this is. Apparently, a lot of them, I guess, are leaving. I don't know anything

6519
06:43:51,040 --> 06:43:53,440
about South Africa. I have no idea. Okay. Like under times this for a Somalian family, white South

6520
06:43:53,440 --> 06:43:57,280
Africans are net taxpayers. Again, it's yeah, that's fine. And also, they're integrating with the country.

6521
06:43:57,280 --> 06:43:59,920
Both those examples now are British, by the way. I mean, World War 11. Yes, exactly. I don't

6522
06:43:59,920 --> 06:44:02,000
understand why we have to destroy ourselves to appear progressive and coming. Well, I don't agree

6523
06:44:02,000 --> 06:44:04,960
that we should. You want to simulate us not in base of species that destroy the ecosystem? Yes,

6524
06:44:04,960 --> 06:44:10,480
exactly. You can't believe I'm permanently banned from this platform. That's like the scariest thing

6525
06:44:10,480 --> 06:44:15,200
is like, if anybody reads my shit and they're like, Oh, destiny. I've heard of this guy. What do you

6526
06:44:15,200 --> 06:44:20,160
and then they're like, wait, he's permanently banned from Twitch. Like in the past, you know,

6527
06:44:20,160 --> 06:44:23,760
they might think, Oh, maybe he said something offensive or used like a slur, whatever. But like,

6528
06:44:23,760 --> 06:44:27,760
if they know that like asmon gold and shit is like on Twitch, what if they think like, Oh, my God,

6529
06:44:29,040 --> 06:44:33,360
a man from Twitch. Damn, what the what did this motherfucker say? This guy must be on

6530
06:44:33,360 --> 06:44:38,000
some if people like asmon gold and Hassan are on to what the fuck this guy must have been doing,

6531
06:44:38,000 --> 06:44:46,080
like actual like coordinated, like violence campaigns. And we literally thought that happened

6532
06:44:46,080 --> 06:44:51,120
whenever like the new Twitch hire accidentally unbanned your account. True. I'm double

6533
06:44:51,120 --> 06:44:55,360
perma band. I guess if you think about it, yeah, some Spaniards are tier two, most of them are

6534
06:44:55,360 --> 06:44:58,560
think literally like a saunter three sub really, then why did they elect a militant capitalist in

6535
06:44:58,560 --> 06:45:00,000
in Argentina and why is.

6536
06:45:00,000 --> 06:45:02,600
having protests against Petra Sanchez for allowing the amount of bullshit that

6537
06:45:02,600 --> 06:45:04,920
he's allowed to happen. I disagree with you about that. I think Argentina is

6538
06:45:04,920 --> 06:45:07,640
actually very much a tier two country and I think Spain is a tier one country. You

6539
06:45:07,640 --> 06:45:10,320
have to remember Spain helped settle America. Spain is part of the EU. Spain is part of

6540
06:45:10,320 --> 06:45:16,400
how many years ago? What the fuck? The collective West. So just because they

6541
06:45:16,400 --> 06:45:19,320
speak Spanish that doesn't mean they're not part of the West. Same is

6542
06:45:19,320 --> 06:45:22,760
Portugal. Yeah definitely. And Argentina on the way up. Yeah they are. And it's I

6543
06:45:22,760 --> 06:45:24,840
mean honestly like they've been fucked for a while. I saw their their graph of

6544
06:45:24,840 --> 06:45:27,360
their currency. Not really looking too good. It's been bad for like 10 years or

6545
06:45:27,360 --> 06:45:29,520
like 15 years. Spain is literally our number three and you're up besides

6546
06:45:29,520 --> 06:45:31,920
France and England. Yeah exactly. Like people forget about that because I think

6547
06:45:31,920 --> 06:45:34,720
that people people draw a distinction between Spain because some of the people

6548
06:45:34,720 --> 06:45:37,200
there have different skin complexions and also because they speak Spanish. So

6549
06:45:37,200 --> 06:45:39,520
they're seen as an other country. They're not another country. Most people

6550
06:45:39,520 --> 06:45:42,360
over there. It's in England. Yeah exactly. Like people forget about that

6551
06:45:42,360 --> 06:45:45,360
because I think that people people draw a distinction between Spain because some

6552
06:45:45,360 --> 06:45:49,440
of the people there have different skin complexions and Spanish people are

6553
06:45:49,440 --> 06:45:52,240
generally white. No like I'm sure I think there are some that are darker but for

6554
06:45:52,240 --> 06:46:03,560
the most part most Spanish people are are pretty white. No. Hold on Northern

6555
06:46:03,560 --> 06:46:06,240
Europeans are not allowed to answer this question. That was a question for

6556
06:46:06,240 --> 06:46:10,480
Americans only. All right. That was a question for my American white people. Not

6557
06:46:10,480 --> 06:46:16,320
for my self-identifying European white people. Okay. Not you guys. Also because

6558
06:46:16,320 --> 06:46:18,640
they speak Spanish. So they're seen as an other country. They're not another

6559
06:46:18,640 --> 06:46:21,040
country. Most people over there. A lot of them at least look the same way as a

6560
06:46:21,040 --> 06:46:24,040
white person Europe does in general. Number one. Number two. They've been part of

6561
06:46:24,040 --> 06:46:26,720
Europe forever. Like they've been our allies forever. So no we're not gonna go

6562
06:46:26,720 --> 06:46:29,820
against Spain. They're an OG. Yeah they're OG Cortez bro. That was Ora. We're not

6563
06:46:29,820 --> 06:46:34,320
gonna put them on tier two. Cortez. Bizarro. Come on. Spain is giving a lot of

6564
06:46:34,320 --> 06:46:36,960
American citizenship. Yeah and that guy's a fucking moron for doing it. So whoever

6565
06:46:36,960 --> 06:46:42,320
does not study the Torah will be drafted or go to jail. Wait what? See this is

6566
06:46:42,320 --> 06:46:45,320
why you're not tier one. This is why I don't want to deal with this. I don't

6567
06:46:45,320 --> 06:46:47,800
want to deal with this shit. Okay like you this is this is more sand this is

6568
06:46:47,800 --> 06:46:50,520
more sand wars. I don't want to hear about it. Spanish is a Latin language.

6569
06:46:50,520 --> 06:46:54,200
I mean a lot of languages over there are. I mean like that's cool. Google Maps

6570
06:46:54,200 --> 06:47:03,240
officially renames. Okay so it's really important for you guys to understand

6571
06:47:03,240 --> 06:47:06,240
that this is actually not the original audio and this is actually about a

6572
06:47:06,240 --> 06:47:09,040
different argument between two Indians in a Western country but it's actually

6573
06:47:09,040 --> 06:47:11,160
not the guy that's in the car that's yelling. It's two other guys that were

6574
06:47:11,160 --> 06:47:14,440
yelling because of an altercation over a separate car. So this is yeah it's I

6575
06:47:14,440 --> 06:47:16,680
know you might be confused but I know exactly what this is. There's no left

6576
06:47:16,680 --> 06:47:18,160
or right. This is of course a talking about you believe in free markets and

6577
06:47:18,160 --> 06:47:21,280
non-American workers. Here we go. Palmer lucky. This is not a left or right

6578
06:47:21,280 --> 06:47:23,720
issue. You are exactly the sort of person I am talking about. You're a quote. I

6579
06:47:23,720 --> 06:47:26,240
don't believe in free markets unless non-American workers with un-American

6580
06:47:26,240 --> 06:47:29,360
values are treated the same as American citizens. Jedi mind trick only works on

6581
06:47:29,360 --> 06:47:37,080
the weak of spirit. Oh damn. Oh man. I just love to hear that bro. I really do.

6582
06:47:38,080 --> 06:47:42,160
That's absolute patriot alert. Yep there you go.

6583
06:47:48,160 --> 06:47:56,320
Okay. Like the path to redemption though is so nice right as long as Trump likes

6584
06:47:56,320 --> 06:48:00,400
the leader you can see these MAGA guys will literally change their opinion

6585
06:48:00,400 --> 06:48:04,960
immediately about the people. That's why he liked because Trump likes the

6586
06:48:04,960 --> 06:48:10,880
Colombian guy. Fuck there was one other that I was thinking of. Like as long as

6587
06:48:10,880 --> 06:48:14,080
Trump likes the leader basically I guess as my goal is cool with the with the

6588
06:48:14,080 --> 06:48:19,320
country. Oh Argentina and El Salvador because they have the is El Salvador

6589
06:48:19,320 --> 06:48:27,120
the buccallet guy or whatever the fuck. Jesus. The Malay guy in Argentina. I don't

6590
06:48:27,120 --> 06:48:34,280
think you mentioned that though did he. Like you just get like one guy in there

6591
06:48:34,280 --> 06:48:36,920
they can do like one thing that Trump likes and then all of a sudden Asmagold

6592
06:48:36,920 --> 06:48:42,200
is totally cool with infinite immigration from that country. Hell yeah.

6593
06:48:43,080 --> 06:48:47,360
Jesus. Mass migration is corporate welfare. Oh boy.

6594
06:48:47,360 --> 06:48:54,440
Kyle Kielensky aiming is political insights. A lot of potentially super you

6595
06:48:54,440 --> 06:48:59,200
just described a caucus that has a lot of potentially centrist governing demands.

6596
06:48:59,200 --> 06:49:02,880
However there's a lot of energy and a lot of anger on the left. How do you think

6597
06:49:02,880 --> 06:49:05,800
about balancing those things as you potentially face control of having

6598
06:49:05,800 --> 06:49:08,040
control of the chamber? Well look you know we haven't taken control yet but the

6599
06:49:08,040 --> 06:49:11,240
way I view this is that the question in a midterm is have you had enough? Do you

6600
06:49:11,240 --> 06:49:14,240
think that there should be a check against unified control of Washington DC

6601
06:49:14,240 --> 06:49:17,120
among Republicans? And so I think we should frame it that way as an

6602
06:49:17,120 --> 06:49:19,440
institutional check against and out of control president and then if we do take

6603
06:49:19,440 --> 06:49:22,320
power we should use our leverage to try to bring this war to a conclusion and to

6604
06:49:22,320 --> 06:49:26,040
reverse the Medicaid and snap cuts. I do not think it is time to propose things

6605
06:49:26,040 --> 06:49:28,400
that the president of the United States is guaranteed to veto. I think that is

6606
06:49:28,400 --> 06:49:31,880
somewhat of a bit of wasted energy and then if we want to be more aspirational

6607
06:49:31,880 --> 06:49:34,160
if we want to make more bold policy changes we're going to have to take the

6608
06:49:34,160 --> 06:49:37,000
presidency and both chambers and that's for 2028. Right now is about

6609
06:49:37,000 --> 06:49:40,160
stabilizing the country itself and providing some check against not just an

6610
06:49:40,160 --> 06:49:42,960
out-of-control presidency and a corrupt presidency but everyone's cost diesel

6611
06:49:42,960 --> 06:49:46,760
gasoline agricultural products consumer products like everything is up and I

6612
06:49:46,760 --> 06:49:52,040
think people want to see us do. The city knows nothing about politics of course

6613
06:49:52,040 --> 06:49:54,760
you want to make in veto universal health care in higher wages then call

6614
06:49:54,760 --> 06:49:57,560
them at relentlessly for it. Oh my god dude they're gonna bring back this

6615
06:49:57,560 --> 06:49:59,920
stupid fucking forced the vote argument that

6616
06:50:00,000 --> 06:50:02,000
most retarded fucking argument in the history

6617
06:50:02,000 --> 06:50:05,120
of all of fucking politics that nobody fucking cares about.

6618
06:50:05,120 --> 06:50:07,720
Oh my God, please kill me, holy shit.

6619
06:50:15,420 --> 06:50:17,680
Cutie Cinderella's been sending out mass false DMC takedowns

6620
06:50:17,680 --> 06:50:18,600
to channels including mine.

6621
06:50:18,600 --> 06:50:21,640
I received 10 of these takedowns from Clemson 2025.

6622
06:50:21,640 --> 06:50:22,480
Damn.

6623
06:50:30,000 --> 06:50:39,200
Explain why it's retarded, why?

6624
06:50:39,200 --> 06:50:42,600
Because in their fantastically delusional mind,

6625
06:50:42,600 --> 06:50:46,120
it relies on this assumption that every single American

6626
06:50:46,120 --> 06:50:48,160
is like a hardcore communist, hardcore socialist,

6627
06:50:48,160 --> 06:50:49,440
agrees with all of their policy,

6628
06:50:49,440 --> 06:50:51,720
but it's just like the corporate media brainwashes people

6629
06:50:51,720 --> 06:50:54,760
into thinking that they're not, or whatever.

6630
06:50:54,760 --> 06:50:56,840
So like the idea behind "Forrest the Vote" is like,

6631
06:50:56,840 --> 06:51:01,520
if I can put up my dream bill in front of Congress,

6632
06:51:01,520 --> 06:51:03,000
get them to vote on it and pass it,

6633
06:51:03,000 --> 06:51:04,640
and then put it up in front of the president,

6634
06:51:04,640 --> 06:51:08,400
while all of America actually wants Medicare for All,

6635
06:51:08,400 --> 06:51:09,800
which is the corporate media lies to you,

6636
06:51:09,800 --> 06:51:11,880
and once it's on the president's desk, he has two choices.

6637
06:51:11,880 --> 06:51:13,080
He can either sign it, which is great

6638
06:51:13,080 --> 06:51:14,120
because I get my agenda passed,

6639
06:51:14,120 --> 06:51:16,160
or he can refuse to sign it,

6640
06:51:16,160 --> 06:51:17,920
and then all of America will see him

6641
06:51:17,920 --> 06:51:19,640
for the evil monster that he truly is

6642
06:51:19,640 --> 06:51:22,160
because every American really wants Medicare for All,

6643
06:51:22,160 --> 06:51:24,120
and the president refusing would be the end of his career.

6644
06:51:24,120 --> 06:51:27,440
They tried to do the same thing with this stupid shit

6645
06:51:27,440 --> 06:51:30,120
years ago with "The Force the Vote" thing,

6646
06:51:30,120 --> 06:51:31,680
but it wasn't even to get it in front of the president,

6647
06:51:31,680 --> 06:51:33,440
which you just suggested in Congress,

6648
06:51:33,440 --> 06:51:35,120
like "Forrest the Medicare for All" vote

6649
06:51:35,120 --> 06:51:36,720
in the Senate over and over and over again,

6650
06:51:36,720 --> 06:51:38,760
so that we can attack Dems that are too weak to vote on it,

6651
06:51:38,760 --> 06:51:41,000
or it's just like nothing will get passed,

6652
06:51:41,000 --> 06:51:42,920
Trump won't even look at it,

6653
06:51:42,920 --> 06:51:43,760
and then no one will care,

6654
06:51:43,760 --> 06:51:44,680
and the Republicans will attack it,

6655
06:51:44,680 --> 06:51:46,160
and no one will give a fuck, it's just stupid.

6656
06:51:46,160 --> 06:51:48,800
It's just literally nothing, this is dumb, it's stupid.

6657
06:51:53,520 --> 06:51:54,640
(upbeat music)

6658
06:51:54,640 --> 06:51:56,640
Mr. Muffin' Top, can I feel a kind of friend

6659
06:51:56,640 --> 06:51:59,240
get some road head? (laughs)

6660
06:52:02,000 --> 06:52:06,440
(speaking in foreign language)

6661
06:52:06,440 --> 06:52:09,720
WTF is the point of the vestiboard on stream.

6662
06:52:09,720 --> 06:52:11,480
If you cover over half of it on stream,

6663
06:52:11,480 --> 06:52:13,000
no one cares about your handguns.

6664
06:52:13,000 --> 06:52:14,360
Fix your setup, little gop.

6665
06:52:14,360 --> 06:52:15,360
- I'll fix your mom.

6666
06:52:15,360 --> 06:52:17,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

6667
06:52:17,840 --> 06:52:20,400
- Mr. Muffin, get a friend, get some road head.

6668
06:52:20,400 --> 06:52:23,480
Mr. Muffin, I am calling for that road.

6669
06:52:23,480 --> 06:52:24,440
- Road head?

6670
06:52:24,440 --> 06:52:26,320
No, I wanted that road head.

6671
06:52:26,320 --> 06:52:29,200
Odd, damn it, come here, Peach.

6672
06:52:29,200 --> 06:52:32,160
- Ice, honey, but your version of road head

6673
06:52:32,160 --> 06:52:34,520
is going to be a Pepsi can in the ass.

6674
06:52:35,840 --> 06:52:37,680
- Okay.

6675
06:52:37,680 --> 06:52:40,520
- I love listening to all of these unfunny TTS

6676
06:52:40,520 --> 06:52:42,640
while I'm throat fucking Darius.

6677
06:52:42,640 --> 06:52:44,920
Darius, you gotta keep your neck straight,

6678
06:52:44,920 --> 06:52:47,160
or I can't get to your wind pipe.

6679
06:52:47,160 --> 06:52:48,920
(dog barking)

6680
06:52:48,920 --> 06:52:50,440
- Give me some room, goofy.

6681
06:52:50,440 --> 06:52:52,840
- Dan, you had your turn already.

6682
06:52:54,480 --> 06:52:56,000
- Okay.

6683
06:52:56,000 --> 06:52:58,880
- Chat, if you donate, make it funny, or rope.

6684
06:52:58,880 --> 06:53:02,320
- And if you're gonna spam the same tired meme,

6685
06:53:02,320 --> 06:53:05,040
make it about Darius getting raped by us.

6686
06:53:05,040 --> 06:53:06,280
- Jesus Christ. - Darius.

6687
06:53:06,280 --> 06:53:07,520
No one's gonna believe you.

6688
06:53:07,520 --> 06:53:08,360
They'll say you may--

6689
06:53:08,360 --> 06:53:09,720
- Do you know Aristotle?

6690
06:53:09,720 --> 06:53:12,160
- No, but I know Darius throttled

6691
06:53:12,160 --> 06:53:15,080
by comical cartoon penis with his Darius.

6692
06:53:15,080 --> 06:53:16,660
You want top and bed?

6693
06:53:16,660 --> 06:53:18,600
Well, you know what you have to do for it.

6694
06:53:18,600 --> 06:53:20,560
Get that automobile filletio, r--

6695
06:53:21,760 --> 06:53:23,800
- Can you guys stop joking about me getting railed

6696
06:53:23,800 --> 06:53:25,000
by the two goofies?

6697
06:53:25,000 --> 06:53:26,800
Go back to the funny turtle.

6698
06:53:26,800 --> 06:53:27,640
Memes.

6699
06:53:27,640 --> 06:53:29,240
Oh shit, gotta go.

6700
06:53:34,980 --> 06:53:37,520
- Darius, where the fuck are you?

6701
06:53:37,520 --> 06:53:39,320
We heard your donation.

6702
06:53:39,320 --> 06:53:40,440
- You stupid son of a bitch.

6703
06:53:40,440 --> 06:53:41,400
You can't hide forever.

6704
06:53:41,400 --> 06:53:43,920
We're coming for you, and we're coming hard.

6705
06:53:48,240 --> 06:53:49,480
- One guy clap.

6706
06:53:52,640 --> 06:53:55,600
He needed a tactical nuke for one man.

6707
06:53:55,600 --> 06:53:57,480
Gaga gaga.

6708
06:53:57,480 --> 06:53:58,320
- Good one.

6709
06:54:00,080 --> 06:54:01,920
(dog barking)

6710
06:54:01,920 --> 06:54:05,280
- So I said, "Zugomi, how about you suck on me?"

6711
06:54:05,280 --> 06:54:07,320
- That's a fucking banger, Dan.

6712
06:54:07,320 --> 06:54:09,400
I'm so glad I met you.

6713
06:54:09,400 --> 06:54:11,800
Mickey stopped throat fucking streamers

6714
06:54:11,800 --> 06:54:13,800
when they put a woman in charge of star--

6715
06:54:13,800 --> 06:54:15,840
- What did you think of the vivic ad drama

6716
06:54:15,840 --> 06:54:17,240
with his opponent's mom?

6717
06:54:18,240 --> 06:54:19,080
- Not good?

6718
06:54:19,080 --> 06:54:20,160
What am I supposed to think about it?

6719
06:54:20,160 --> 06:54:21,840
- Holy shit!

6720
06:54:21,840 --> 06:54:22,680
Whoo!

6721
06:54:22,680 --> 06:54:25,160
- I'm going to fucking come again!

6722
06:54:25,160 --> 06:54:26,280
(dog barking)

6723
06:54:26,280 --> 06:54:29,560
- Destiny, I made this post about the common rumors.

6724
06:54:29,560 --> 06:54:34,560
H-T-T-P-S-Y-Zaw-W-W dot Reddit dot com slash.

6725
06:54:35,240 --> 06:54:39,000
Destiny, Agmely of over one W-2.

6726
06:54:39,000 --> 06:54:42,640
So what type us use, I-Zero-W-W-W-W-W,

6727
06:54:42,640 --> 06:54:45,140
what be when we Reddit Wellity is not?

6728
06:54:47,680 --> 06:54:48,520
- Okay.

6729
06:54:48,520 --> 06:54:50,280
- I don't have a lot of money,

6730
06:54:50,280 --> 06:54:52,760
but I hate T-T-S that goddamn much.

6731
06:54:52,760 --> 06:54:54,840
I'm not stopping until the spam is a deluge

6732
06:54:54,840 --> 06:54:56,240
of automobile cocksucker.

6733
06:54:56,240 --> 06:54:58,920
- Darius, I got a present for you.

6734
06:54:58,920 --> 06:54:59,760
- It's--

6735
06:54:59,760 --> 06:55:00,600
- Romus awareness.

6736
06:55:00,000 --> 06:55:03,880
he had a point. There are too many lazy white people who simply don't have the same drive

6737
06:55:03,880 --> 06:55:08,240
their ancestors had. Imagine how much better it would be to have an edgy Indian political

6738
06:55:08,240 --> 06:55:12,800
streamer who started his job at 1 p.m. each day without fail.

6739
06:55:12,800 --> 06:55:14,360
Bass.

6740
06:55:14,360 --> 06:55:19,760
Moot! If you start deleting these because of trigger warning shit, I don't understand

6741
06:55:19,760 --> 06:55:29,160
the problem. I just, me borily, I norm, shut the fuck up. Oh my god, did you see what Ethan

6742
06:55:29,160 --> 06:55:36,120
said and what Ila said? How about eBay and preach? Did you see their take?

6743
06:55:36,120 --> 06:55:42,400
Eva. And did you see Hassan's response to it? How about that thing Ryan Beard said? And

6744
06:55:42,400 --> 06:55:48,020
oh my god that reminds me of what Methi Hassan said.

6745
06:55:48,020 --> 06:55:53,760
Wow. Do you know how Kaya has place training? Well, Darius has face training. Pull him

6746
06:55:53,760 --> 06:56:03,960
tail. Good one. Okay. All right. I love you guys. It's been fun. No.

6747
06:56:03,960 --> 06:56:27,240
Lincoln to me tomorrow. That's okay. Jesus.

6748
06:56:27,240 --> 06:56:45,640
Oh, nobody. Nobody is streaming. One kick, rip. No. We're all chilling. Fuck you.

6749
06:56:45,640 --> 06:56:56,080
Mr. Pasek. Mr. Pasek. I'm gonna see us game. Oh my god.

6750
06:56:56,080 --> 06:56:58,080
All right. We're gonna have a channel, pop a channel, hop a channel, hop a channel, hop a channel,

6751
06:56:58,080 --> 06:56:59,080
hop a channel, hop a channel, hop a channel, hop a channel, hop a channel, hop a channel,

6752
06:56:59,080 --> 06:57:00,080
hop a channel, hop a channel, hop a channel, hop a channel, hop a channel, hop a channel,

6753
06:57:00,080 --> 06:57:03,800
do it now. Catch you guys next. Cheers. Cheers. Bye.