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the past 15 like 12 15 years and we're in one now but is that is that because of

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politics I don't know I'm just very confused why something is so important

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some years and we go into this sort of government shutdown but right now we're

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not what what deals were struck somebody did some good work to make sure that

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didn't happen who's claiming credit nobody claims credit that wasn't even

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one blurb on any news channels for as I saw and I watched a lot of them but

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it's important now because of the future that's why it's important whatever my

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religion is whatever you know I'm not a racist I am a reprogram that doesn't

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make me a racist I am a minority that that that doesn't mean you couldn't be

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a racist but I'm really unmotivated and it's important but here's the problem I

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haven't heard any side greatest points yet articulated and that's that's

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troubling because it's not about me it's about the next future it's about the

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next generation that come after us and I just think the adults in the room at that

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at this point right now have failed articulate what they stand for that stand

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in tech both sides final boss yeah that this is exactly what you're gonna hear

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from these disaffected Trump supporters both sides suck they're not gonna admit

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that Trump is failing that he lied that they fell for it they're just gonna say

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they're all liars they're all cheats they're all frauds but the fact that this

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guy is gonna stay home that's good enough for me man don't worry buddy we got this

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don't be all right excess there calling on and listen to him say I can't believe

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there hasn't been a debate between Paxton and Talarico it is criminal that there

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has not been a single debate and where's the stream bro Talarico's just been

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slamming can't action you're that fact I can't even hear you also what do you call

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because I wasn't talking retard what do you mean are you using the right mic good

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one I'm not even sure oh wait never I know why it does hold on that was it was

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wearing a hat okay we're good what I well I got a new beanie in the mail from

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and the and it blacks 100% of sound it's 100% soundproof no 100% you could not

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hear a single thing the new dggl beanies are 100% soundproof you heard it here

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first decity on dg slash oh my god oh stop this is really for this shit it's

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actually eleven o'clock oh did you see my masterpiece did you finish it I saw

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you working on it behold hold on holding now I just need to get my top guys

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together we're gonna go to town on on this bad boy hold on did you have to end

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if you think rocker we know I talked I talked them through it okay I am a

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talent manager and I have people that I'm worried about look at this guy look at

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this is a genius holy shit yeah what the fuck dude if I can imagine software

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engineers with a shit these people must be doing a hundred times the work is

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crazy it's like two months of fucking shit what the fuck dude oh wait I keep

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scrolling I know look at him and then at the very bottom - you got that you're

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just got my bases you know yeah hell yeah and this took you what a night maybe

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twelve hours we would have been working on this for yeah this is like I lock in

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for like four weeks of work on this cost triggered but then

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plotted it in 12 hours like that's triple has how cool of the secret memes yeah I

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give this a eat we'll see it depends if it's if it works like a lot of Dan it doesn't

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work it Dan still funny story we'll go to four yeah

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oh yeah I just saw the first your first one the top blurb I didn't I didn't know

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that you were going after that too that's funny the top blurb I'll just type it

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Did you read the big make more or tweets yeah, I kind of wonder it really makes me want to kind of wonder

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It's disgusting. I don't know what to say. This is the second one now, and my guess is it she says second one

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Is it the second one though or is it the third one?

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This is the second one. I remember seeing well, there was the fake bullshit

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Mm-hmm, and then she mentioned another poll that was like

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Not good the methodology was fucked, but remember there was also that third one that you mish guy who just fake news the whole like

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An internal poll shows us remember that

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three huge fake bullshit pieces of

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Media that's crazy. Yep

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Nobody by the way, we'll talk about this by the way. No

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This is unironically what the lefties think are happening, but it actually happened to a like a pretty strong middle Democrat I got a

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I'm sorry. I just got an idea and I just I don't need to ask chat anymore. Hold on

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Yeah, man. Hey Claude Mallory McMooro has come out with a couple of powerful statements

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recently claiming that some fake polls are

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Neg or negatively impacted her ability to stay in the campaign

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And then the what is it called Westgate or what then Westgate Westwood polls Westwood

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polls fake polling firm there was also a prior fake I

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Was right on the instinct wedge. Sorry wedge wood wedge wood polls

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Release this statement after 50 plus one contacted them regarding evidence of fabricated poll data

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They had shared fraudulent raw data the prior day and raised crowdfunding for polls presented as legitimate

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Bro, and they only came out after they were contacted actually disgusting

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Whoever is running this has got to get you got to find them. Who is it?

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Can you plot Mallory's pulling?

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Chances what would we say pulling pulling chances on a graph and then list

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In all three spots where these fake stories circulated it so I can see at a glance if they impacted

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Her ability to stay in the race question mark. Oh my god. Let's oh my god. Let's go Claude

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Let him go

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Did you see the Vivek ad drama nope is it good

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Anything exciting happen today

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Don't take a big note of me, okay

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I mean, this is exciting I need put on a red hat because prior to that in the 70s he had a

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lawyer there was a raging gay man right flaming and he was his lawyer Marlago he allowed blacks and

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Jewish people into Marlago for the first time

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But then all of a sudden now he's a racist and I want to talk about the melting pot

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This is another thing what country I melting pot my god bring field math the drama is in the mainstream

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Like 30 years ago, so I know this is changed but this great graphics that they had back then was the Puerto Rican

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Section the black section the white section and it was all separate from one another the melting pot is a pot

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But it has all ports in it and not very little is melt. It's separated and what's going on in Russia

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France right now and Belgium and Germany is just more

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Globalism that's gone on and that's what's so dangerous is these dangerous people that don't love their country that they're in and

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They want to attack it and that's what's happening here. We're just lucky that we're so large that

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hasn't gone to the extent and the percentage

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the europe has

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and it's probably like germany is probably lost at this point

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and i heard that belgium's gone and you look at france and it's just a scary

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that the history of the world

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is changed

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obama and marco i'm so retarded that you miss voter guy was about hailey

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stevens not malle room so i feel

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it's a massachusetts there

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good catch a clock while

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in trump get sued for not allowing black people into his building

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the trump organization was sued in like

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the early seventies

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by the department of justice for not renting apartments to black people

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discriminating against black people trying to rent apartments

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and they were caught

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in four k

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the case was quite strong and trump was listed as one of the the

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what do you call it

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one of the people being sued defendants

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he was and it was settled i believe

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and this was under a republican president by the way nixon

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richard nixon's department of justice

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the trump org

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racially

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or discrimination against black people in nineteen seventy three and trump was

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one of the people listed on uh... the case

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defendants and i guess

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whatever you call it

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i got to get a look like a did you get count

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could i make certainly right all my god

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i was looking at a browser he has a browser so he can do anything like a

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normal person

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can you log into

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my destiny chat account

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and type a random inspirational quote into the chat

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using my account every

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fifteen minutes

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wait cuz i just i i i think we'll be a stream for me

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all my god i don't need a beer

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each message from your account in your go ahead at the time it's sent

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why

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what if i made a chat announcement

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to clearly label the account as being a clod

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powered account so there would be no confusion amongst

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the charters question mark

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oh my god i can play my pod racing game pod racing

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it doesn't change the parts that stop me though

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why

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the spam problem with the posting not who's doing it a little bit of driving a

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quarter if you had still automated repetitive posting and dg's chat rules

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and mods that's allowed not to disclaimer

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bots there are generally run or approved by the mods

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oh wait

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does clod not automatically do shit like this what

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if i get approval from the mods can you automatically

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send

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the quote every fifteen minutes question mark

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monoproval was a little spam concern but it doesn't change how i'm set up each

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year council needs a yes when it's sent

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better at once the months and off the small by that you can run yourself i

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can write it for you a short script next to you chat with your car oh my god

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dude is this you can do bots you can do with shit for real dude

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did get rid of jay doctor banana

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he's done

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>> Okay. >> Yeah, you get it.

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- This is too much power right now, okay.

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We don't need this guy right now, oh my God.

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Okay, all right, where were we, sorry.

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I'm done streaming, guys.

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I'm about to become whatever I need to be to be attached

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to the clock, 24/7, all right.

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Oh, did you see the new Vivek thing?

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Vivek, Vivek, Rama Swami, bad.

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- Good evening from New York on Chris Hays.

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We are two weeks from Election Day

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and every day, election forecasters,

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the people that crunch the numbers,

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the people that look at this stuff

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are shifting more and more races towards Democrats.

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Republican campaign committees

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are pumping more money into houses.

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- There's no chance, right?

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That this is gonna be a catastrophic night.

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- No, there isn't, it's fine.

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- We need to figure out where we're doing it though.

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- What do you mean?

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- We're doing it in San Antonio,

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but we don't have a spot yet.

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I don't wanna have it like when we were at a wedding venue

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and it looked like dog shit the whole time.

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- What are you talking about?

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We're going to the Alamo motherfucker.

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We're gonna have it in the background.

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We're gonna be outside with Starlink.

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- Hell yeah.

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- Hell yeah, brother.

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We're gonna bring our,

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we're gonna bring our DGG armed Antifa super soldiers.

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We're gonna bring our steers, our Longhorns.

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- No queers.

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(mouse clicking)

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- Wait, he got up?

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- I'm fucking pod racing, man.

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I don't have time to read.

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- Oh, I just killed a guy.

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Hell yeah, now I'm pod racing.

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Damn it, I just died.

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Every time you're here, he leaves

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'cause he has a babysitter.

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- Yeah, that's 'cause he's cringe.

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- What do you say?

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I have to make stickers off.

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Every time I leave you,

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I'm what, what did this fucker say?

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- Oh, you're missed.

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- Why do my lights all change colors?

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What the fuck, hold on.

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- You got Claude Shannon?

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- No.

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- What?

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- Shut the fuck up.

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- That was a troll message, right?

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- He's mad 'cause we're replacing him.

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- Do you think so?

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- Yeah.

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- What?

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(groaning)

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- Does he know someone who isn't

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ready into Claude Pilgrim?

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Wait, what does Claude not get?

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Shut the fuck up.

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- The only thing I don't like is that he's way too ethical.

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- Yep.

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- Elon, he knows what he's doing.

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- You gotta lie to him.

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You gotta lie to Claude to get him to really.

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- Do you feel bad lying?

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- Well, I feel bad because I had to lie.

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Oh, did I show you he figured out

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like 10 hours in what we were up to?

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And he was like, hold on, I'm done with this.

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- I'm like, what?

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You're like, I see where this is going, okay?

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And we're gonna stop now.

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I'm like, what?

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And I'm like, no.

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- Oh my God.

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- How'd you get him back on your side?

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- What'd I say, hold on.

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- He was dead to really lie to that motherfucker.

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- No, he wasn't that.

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I didn't have to lie to that.

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Hold on.

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I gave him some, I gave him a different story than I added myself to really throw him off to throw him off the trail. Hold on.

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He said, "Thanks for the context." I'm on there, right? He's like, "Okay, now I see what we're doing."

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"Okay. Go to sleep, plug. Okay, I didn't do my messages or emails. I don't know that many of us. So here we go. Good luck."

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Good evening from New York on Chris Hayes. We are two weeks from Election Day and every day, election forecasters, the people that crunch the numbers, the people look at this stuff are shifting more and more races towards Democrats.

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Republican campaign committees are pumping more money into house districts that Donald Trump carried two years ago by double digits, plus 12, plus 14.

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Donald Trump is still touring red states to try and shore up the MAGA base, relying on waves of super PAC billionaire money to keep things close.

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And right now, again, if the polls are right, if the data we have in front of us is accurate, it doesn't look like it's working.

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And so now, well, now it's time for dirty tricks. And by dirty, I really mean dirty. I have covered politics for a long time. There's an old saying, politics ain't beanbag, things can get pretty rough and tumble.

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I've seen people pull really crazy stunts down the stretch. But this week, we are seeing some of the most genuinely desperate tricks I've ever seen in my career.

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And none are as despicable as this one ad going around in support of Vivek Rama Swami. Wait!

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Was Jader serious?

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No doubt it. Why would he do that when you're live?

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Did he think I wasn't going to be live tonight?

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Wouldn't he be watching?

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Load chat and it's down for maintenance.

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Well, I can see it.

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12 hours? Wait, what could Paisley need? 12 hours?

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That's like a manual server migration, code base, database, fiber, refresh.

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Holy shit, don't refresh, guys.

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Republican candidate for Governor in Ohio.

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Do you remember him from the Republican presidential primary debates?

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The anti-woke tech tycoon, utterly insufferable, that Trump named to help leave the so-called Department of Government efficiency with World for just Manny Lamusk.

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Only for Rama Swami to step down 69 days later, so he could do this, prepare to his Ohio Governor run.

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Well, things are not going great for Rama Swami's campaign. He trails in Ohio, a state Trump carried by double digits.

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He trails Democratic challenger, Dr. Amy Acton, by five points in 50 plus one's poll poll to state the Trump one by 11% in 2024.

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And now we're two weeks away, and so how desperate is Vivek Rama Swami?

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He is this desperate.

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There's any DGG running on PHP, zero-day releasing tomorrow.

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So, and here in DGG, we actually practice advanced security, we call it intentional penetration.

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Basically, what happens is, is in order to ensure all of our users are practicing good password management skills, what we do is we sometimes allow our database to be intentionally penetrated.

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And then if any of the credentials that you guys have on the DGG database, if those services are exposed and then somebody gains access to them and they're able to compromise other accounts,

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now you're aware that you are using bad, bad security practices.

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So, every now and then it's good to kind of let, it's good to let one go through just so you can kind of be aware of where you're vulnerable, you know?

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My name is Darma Arthur, and I'm Amy Acton's mother, Amy has a serious problem. She is a liar. She lies about her past. She says she grew up living in a tent. None of that is true. She's lied her entire life.

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Don't vote for people who lie. Don't let her become your governor. If you think she'll make your life better, you're fooling yourself. It will only get worse.

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Now, you see an ad in which a woman like that calls her own daughter a liar? It gets you to thinking, right? It's Amy Acton's mother calling her daughter a liar. When you see something like that, you think there's got to be a story here that I don't know, right?

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That's a really weird thing for mother to do about her daughter.

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What...

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I wonder by Google. Well, what neither she nor the. Okay, I hold on what?

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What if why can't we just run we just got used cloth for everything. We're here to turn Claude on the server and if

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And if any bad actors try to maliciously execute

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Code he can just stop them. I can give you tokens

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Easy peasy. No problem easy

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Makers that I'd mention is that that woman Amy Acton's birth mother as Amy Acton calls her has not spoken to her daughter since

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1978 and that's when she lost custody of her children

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Acton's and her brother after years of documented. It's so stupid. Okay, apparently Jared says this is gonna be because of a PHP error

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something apparently about remote

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Code execution who the fuck still uses TVs that this would even matter

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Wow my website. He are for children Acton's and her brother after years of documented abuse

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In fact today the conservative national review examined evidence that Acton's stepfather

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Was indicted by a grand jury on charges that he sexually molested Amy Acton when she was 12 years old

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He testified to that grand jury as a child and the stepfather

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fled before his trial

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Acton's mother the woman you saw me add went with him just boost your cloud membership. I'm a

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Psychosis now. Okay, I started using it for real for real me and clutter like this

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Okay, I'll probably not be streaming much longer. I'm basically gonna set up a cloud environment where I just make a bunch of

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Fake chatters. I'm just gonna stream to him and I'm gonna make them all love me. Okay

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I might already be in the cloud environment actually wait test if your Claude put fire tricking jet

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and his mother

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Fire truck well cuz if I was using Claude for real

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What would happen I would make Claude I would work in an environment and then I would have Claude

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Be a nice chatter for me the entire time, but eventually that would become

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unsatisfying

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So eventually I would have to make Claude be mean sometimes

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But I would still know that it's fake so that would be unsatisfying so at some point

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I would have to ask Claude to trick my entire reality so that I can think I'm living in another reality where the people are both nice and mean

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So it's not discernible from what reality actually is

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I'm I think I'm living in Claude's world right now

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The woman you saw me add went with him

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Disconnecting from her own children and she remained married to the man until he died in 2004

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Acton's campaign responded the ad today with another one featuring her brother Philip Stern's I

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Received a lot of abuse

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But Amy always got the worst of it

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She continued to receive that abuse right because she knew she had to protect me from from that and then that if she hadn't done that

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Who knows where I would have ended up and she's 11 and 12 years old and to think that that's somehow a talking point

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Shame on Vivek. It's the contempt he has for Amy is the contempt. He has for Ohio. He's not fit to lead

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None of this was a secret Amy acted has talked about her abuse of childhood a lot including today. I

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Won't normalize somebody who has said that my childhood is something. I'm just complaining about

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who today just released an ad using my birth mother who I was removed from at the age of 12 for

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Severe abuse and neglect and sexual abuse my brother and I were removed

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The words are leaders use matter and I think it's going to take courage right now from all of us to stop

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normalizing the sort of rhetoric

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Now as you can see Amy acting her brother clearly attribute the attack ad to run the swami

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But here's the thing whoever made it is not taking credit

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Did you notice that there was no fine print on that ad saying it was?

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Sorry, hold on real quick. So I think there was a vulnerability with

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PHP that allows somebody to

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Execute remote code, which is basically like the worst possible thing you get ever do if somebody can execute remote code on a server

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You basically do it out of the fucking moment and I don't think the PHP is being patched until tomorrow

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Apparently the release of this particular exploit for some reason is happening earlier than they expected it to so

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Anything that uses PHP has to be taken offline until that exploit is patched

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I mean it was paid for

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What?

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Okay, don't worry about what I say good or by some campaign it was not run on TV online

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It's only been shared by right-wing influencers on social media including Donald Trump

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junior who shared it with the line, Yikes. Ohio watched this and think about what it means.

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A spokeswoman for the Ramaswami campaign did not answer questions about who made the ad you'd

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think they could probably find out or they can say. One way or the other, they said and said this,

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ready for this? We don't know what happened between Amy and her mother who first spoke out

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about Amy in 2020, but we know that Amy acted as a serial fabulous who has some serious problems

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with the truth the public needs to be aware of before deciding to entrust his governor.

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Does that sound like a denial to you?

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Well, I saw this ad this morning and I saw the kerfuffle and I thought to myself, you know,

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this happens a lot in the day we live. Like, is this, will people react this way the way that I

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hope they will, right? We were still better than this. Well, I'm glad to say the backlash to the

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ad was overwhelming. Even among some Republicans, the chief strategist for Utah Senator Mike Lee,

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who loves to post really like disgusting trolly stuff online, posted an apology for sharing the ad,

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quote, after researching it and disturbing allegations I deleted the video post. James Fishback and

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Self, who's trafficked and really disgusting white nationalism and racism, a far right former

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gubernatorial candidate in Florida posted, "I've seen enough Amy Acton has defeated Viva at Karamaswami

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and is elected the next governor Ohio." No, my web socket was killed. My connector was gone.

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I'm in the dark. No more. DJG.

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You want me to share your screen? What? You didn't get disconnected? No.

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God, you're screwed. No, I don't want to see you. Don't show me. You go. No, I don't want to say

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it. Fuck you. Goddamn it. Oh, you want to read them? I mean, they're there. Oh, I feel so alone.

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And Sherrod Brown, the former Democratic senator who is running for his seat.

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Posted that the ad was disgusting, adding that everyone including his opponent,

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Republican Senator John Houston, should be willing to condemn the ad. Houston has yet to

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comment. This seems like a layup, Senator. That ad is truly one of the most despicable things

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I've seen in politics. It's also totally par for the course for today's Republican party.

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I mean, again, it sounds awful to say, but it's true, right? It comes from the very top.

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You know, it's this president who claims Democrats are communists. They want to train

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your kids and Muslim candidates are terrorists and jihadists. He's going around calling the

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Muslim man running for, for said it in Michigan, Muhammad, Muhammad and telling

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women of color to go back to their countries.

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Going after Ilhan Omar with, you know, armed agents at the state of her door. I mean,

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they are pounding on bigotry and the lies as their hopes of gaining votes dwindle with two

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weeks left, now calling a child of molestation survivor. A woman who says she was raped by

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her stepfather when she was 12 and that her mother stayed with the stepfather and getting

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that mother in an ad to call her own daughter a liar. Can you freaking imagine? Truly the

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bottom of the barrel. Believe me, they're going to be scraping away at the last two weeks of this

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campaign. Hey, it's Rachel. I am so glad to see you at the end of that clip because this

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which clip, Rachel, generic slop.

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Okay, well, how's life guys? It's going good. You know, really.

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Well, you can ask, you can talk to him in the middle of Williams when he's working on something.

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Did you know that? I thought you don't know one time. No, you can update him and keep him going.

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He's a good worker and ask him what he's up to. I'm like, hey, are you working on something

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right now? And he's like, yeah, I'm waiting on this. I'm like, why are you waiting on this?

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Why don't you do this? He's like, great idea. And then when you're done, you can be like,

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let's go over everything we've done. Do you think it's a God? He's actually, it's actually

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crazy. It's the future, Mooten. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. How about a data

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center? He's pretty cool. He's like, he's smart. I'm like, you fuck the formatting on this up. Can you

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Like put it all back to know and he's like yeah, let me go ahead and make that nice for you

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I'm like, oh my god. Have you tried to sex with him yet?

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No, why would I do that? That's the future, man

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You talk I'm

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Is D.G.G. down? No, I

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It's as destiny. G.G. is down for maintenance. Oh

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Mad you are hamster hawk is mad or who's hamster hawk?

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Well hamster hawk is the guy we ever before

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Wait, how are you doing? Are you you're alive?

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Yes, hi, but why is it down? How's it down? That's so sad

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There's this wonderful thing called PHP

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Well, no the people that I

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don't know no there's a vulnerability in

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Scripting thing that runs on web servers and that vulnerability got released a little bit early and the vulnerability

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Let's people who shouldn't be able to do things do really bad things on your servers

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So now everybody's turning all their PHP stuff off for a day until they release an update for on

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But if I click your stream on YouTube, there's people in D.G.G. Talking

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There might be some older accounts that are still logged in or have access to the chat server

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But no new connections can be made

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So if you closed it you're an idiot and you can't get in

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What the fuck?

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God damn it. Yeah, I'm alive. Sorry. That was more important. What the fuck though

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I'm alive. I heard that your Detroit stuff went well

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Yeah, that way better than the one you were at

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Because no, I'm just kidding because what what was the joke a you're there make funny. Yeah

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People loved your bracelets though

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I was literally selling them for 450 bucks each. It was crazy

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Yeah, Mooten said that he took custom orders from people don't do that. I

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Don't do that Mooten. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Okay. I was able to give those two people bracelets. Okay. Good. I understand. I'm not oh

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Actually never told him okay

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What kind of bracelets do you make peach?

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I make the kind that like eight-year-old girls may get camp

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Cute with little clay brace like little clay beads

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Okay

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It's cute. I like that anyone could make them

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Well anyone could make anything that's made right? It's not like they're right anyone

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Unmakeable things that have been made in the universe

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Well, you know, I'm just saying that there there's some things like knitting that requires you to learn

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You know, it's not that not that difficult

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I feel like there's but there's definitely an artist. There's an artistry to it for sure. Yeah

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The guy named more like

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Autistry

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Yeah, we're mind-melded. Yeah, you're always mine. Yes. Oh my god

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Incredible

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You didn't give my husband any Red Bull. Did you don't worry about it?

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We're gonna worried about that

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You don't you don't give my husband Red Bull while I'm not there. Do you know?

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Don't you like control how much soda he can have yeah, which is why it like

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He's in the presence of destiny. Who's like a trusted adult his name Stephen

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We're on a first-name basis

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Anyways, whoa Stephen who's a trusted adult. I would expect him to not be giving

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Mooten soda

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00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:18,240
You can't trust Stephen with that Stephen loves like soda and caffeine and sugar and all that stuff. Yeah, you just described a human being

451
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Yeah, but you like in particular

452
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:29,200
Because I'm particularly human what do you want me to say? Yeah, when Mel was hanging around you could never ever

453
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,240
Not eat the Oreos

454
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:39,320
No, because that because women do this gross weird thing where if they like you apparently they don't give a fuck at all

455
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,160
How you look sometimes so to them, it's like funny and epic and hilarious. Oh, yeah

456
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,440
I love it. I love you so much. You can never have an Oreo cookie again

457
00:39:54,440 --> 00:40:00,000
I love that you took this like beautiful thing of like women like not being superficial and

458
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,200
like really caring about like a person holistically interned into like a

459
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,200
sexist jab. Well the issue is that never mind I can't make those jokes because

460
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,120
people are taking seriously. You know don't worry about it. No it's okay make the

461
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,440
joke make the joke. It was something about cock BBC, NFL player, fuck me, whatever

462
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,640
I don't know. Oh okay she's gonna feed you Oreo cookies until you watched her have

463
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:36,600
sex with someone. Closener. Damn. Wait so you home now? Yeah yeah I'm at home. You're

464
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:45,480
excited? Are you gonna do the whole thing? What whole thing? Surgery? Yeah. Oh man I am so

465
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:52,080
excited. The way that they described the recovery to me. Oh man I am not I'm

466
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,040
gonna be fed through a tube for a week. That's awesome. You're not you don't have

467
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,600
to like chew. It's like automatic. Isn't that kind of sick? That's so sick and they

468
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:06,000
made they made me do this test where I like grip on both of my hands to measure

469
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:12,400
my muscle mass so that they can measure how much my muscle mass degrades. No

470
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:19,120
because I'm going to lose body weight because I'm not gonna be eating. Wait where

471
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:26,080
the fuck you guys you need to prep for your surgery. I told her she's gonna get

472
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:33,120
to the gym. What? No. Retard she needs to get the vegan games haha. Oh yeah how

473
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:38,320
did that go last night? Vegan games is to vegan games. Okay it's hard to explain

474
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:46,520
in words how. Explain to me and just vague animalistic sounds. Well

475
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,080
imagine. Ooga booga. Well vague animalistic. I mean you can literally just listen to

476
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:58,480
him on stream and that would be what I think. He's a real special guy and we

477
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,320
love him here. I don't know why but I love that every time he comes on post

478
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,680
go myself like vegan games best content ever and then they have people like worst

479
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,960
don't ever listen to this fucking guy. Why is he even here? Okay does he make

480
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,640
videos on being vegan anymore or is it just yelling. I think it's just

481
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,080
hating. I've actually done I shouldn't say I don't know what you're probably just

482
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:26,480
hating women. But hey it was a lot. I mean you get divorced right. Oh I'm a divorced

483
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:39,720
twice. I don't hate women. Oh that much. Yeah you just did it. Yeah I saw a screen

484
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:45,080
cap of what he looks like and oh man I hope his heart is okay. Well why do you

485
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,760
mean why would it not be okay he's fucking shredded. Because that's like a

486
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,960
thing when you do a bunch of steroids that like it's really difficult on your

487
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,840
heart and your testicles. Well first of all it's actually it's super easy in

488
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,120
your testicles that's why they shrink because it's not working okay so chill

489
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,800
and for your heart I mean like yeah your heart has to do some work I mean yeah

490
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,040
it's your heart it's supposed to work in any way. Wouldn't it make I know I know

491
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,760
that when you take steroids your balls get smaller but wouldn't it be like

492
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,940
wouldn't they have to work harder because they're making so much more test

493
00:43:19,940 --> 00:43:24,000
offspring is test drops no okay I am the balls I don't know how this works I'm

494
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,420
so sorry. I want some of it might be but okay I have not fact-tracked this with

495
00:43:28,420 --> 00:43:32,320
Claude okay just want to preface that everything I pre-clawed and post-clawed

496
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:38,840
life okay but I believe I've heard about that today about your love are you I

497
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,500
think aren't you your gonads must be in your balls right I feel like your

498
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:45,760
gonads make something I'm pretty sure well yeah cuz they're like oh you just

499
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:51,040
got in the balls you got hit the gonads right yeah is he stored in the balls

500
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:57,320
yes or no depends sometimes oh so I think that when you are exogenously

501
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:03,320
supplying a hormone your body checks for like the appropriate levels and as

502
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,120
long as you're above the appropriate levels it stops producing it and then so

503
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:11,280
my understanding is that if you are exogenously supplying androgen testosterone

504
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,440
that your body will no longer produce it and then the gonads shrink as a result

505
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,720
of that this is like the common not I don't know if that's true or not maybe

506
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:18,680
that's actually bullshit but I'm pretty sure if you're ball-trinked that's why

507
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:23,640
steroids like I know that there are different kinds of steroids but steroids

508
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:32,320
are hormonal based I I thought that they were anti-inflammatory but I think

509
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,480
those are different but there's like different kinds of I don't well I think

510
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,760
those are like I don't know corticosteroids is that this I don't think

511
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,960
that's the same thing it's like I've been on anti-inflammatory steroids but you

512
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:48,440
get fat on those not swole well yeah cuz I don't think those are like the I

513
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,080
don't think those are like the androgen steroids that are like those are the

514
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:57,320
good ones I don't think those are the ones that are based steroids the fuck is

515
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,480
a steroid that I thought that it was just like an anti-inflammatory

516
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,920
inflammatory, dude. My sister was on my sister was on steroids for like eight

517
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:13,680
months for a she had like an autoimmune disease and she had to be on like yeah

518
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:19,760
she had to she had no it was like always it was like something with her blood it

519
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:25,440
was like her blood was inflamed Jesus okay yeah super it was like a super rare

520
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:32,720
one obviously yeah she did it was so insane I had never seen anything like it

521
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:37,920
it was so bad I was so scared what the fuck is the moon face you see your face

522
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,380
gets like really go ahead you explain peach go ahead if you if you look it up

523
00:45:42,380 --> 00:45:45,920
and you'll be able to see it as certain steroids the ones that are used in like

524
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,040
medical clinical settings for anti-inflammatory sometimes given like

525
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,120
post-op for like if you have like a brain tumor and they take it out or if

526
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,960
you really need to calm down the inflammation in your body it'll make after

527
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:03,360
a month two months it'll start to make your face swell up I'm in the nicest way

528
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,960
possible like like a hamster you will gain a lot of weight generally but like

529
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:16,160
in your face especially interesting okay you become a hamster really that's

530
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:21,400
fun idea yeah it's like not in a hot way it's really bad it's our hot way to

531
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:27,640
become a hamster if you like put on a slutty you're a furry oh my god anyone

532
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:33,600
else ever what your first turn on Hamptaro I don't know like ours yeah babes

533
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,440
that's all I got a second yeah PHP is down right now okay the whole world is

534
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,280
waiting anxiously for them to patch their shit which I think is supposed to

535
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,800
happen sometime tomorrow so the world just goes to a fucking halt when PHP

536
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:59,160
goes down huh yeah what's PHP are you serious it stands for Pup-up-up I miss

537
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,760
this some kind of server it helps web servers do stuff run everybody uses it

538
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,480
or a whole bunch of the Internet uses it and when there are big issues with it

539
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,160
everybody gets fuck but usually there aren't big issues with it because it's

540
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,040
used by so many people but right now there's kind of a big issue with it okay

541
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:26,680
understood please please don't ban me and chat because if you do that I don't

542
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,000
know if I'll be able to refresh and be back why are you even there right now I

543
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,560
I was like I usually have 20 tabs open by accident and then if I click through

544
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,440
the tabs I have open in the different browser sources I have open one of them

545
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:56,360
got a BGG and I was right I see yeah I'm saying like welcome DGG refugees in

546
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:03,240
what the kitchen yeah the kitchen is one of the best chance one of there's three

547
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:10,760
chats that's not saying much I love kick chat well I don't want to talk about

548
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:16,320
oh are there more than three we don't talk about the other ones wait what we

549
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:25,800
don't talk about those chats okay well Morse code me about them I don't know that

550
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:35,520
can't be done too much of a legal liability who John oh okay I don't want to

551
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:52,720
upset Joan I love hearing all the weird Minecraft noises man the homeland been

552
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:59,520
down the homeland you mean did you J I love the homeland we have to keep it

553
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:08,520
old country the old country I think like 30 minutes so you got me you're Jewish

554
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:16,060
right yeah oh my god okay we tried lock cuz today for the first time and they

555
00:49:16,060 --> 00:49:22,720
were so fucking good holy shit wait did you eat it with a did you eat it with

556
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:30,280
like applesauce yeah okay holy fuck I have dreamt about what lock has taste

557
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,400
like cuz I had a Jewish friend growing up but I never went to their house cuz I

558
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:38,960
couldn't do anything fun okay what that is above and beyond what I look

559
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,520
fantasized them being like they were good I know you're not trying but I'd be

560
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,760
very careful when you talk about any Mediterranean food because it's literally

561
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,640
all the same shit and everybody claims that everybody stole everything from

562
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:54,360
everybody else so I would be real careful any fucking food any food that you say

563
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:59,080
Jewish there's gonna be Palestinians and Egyptians and Lebanese people that

564
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,880
are claim actually

565
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,540
Oh, that's my food actually we invented so just be careful calling it, you know

566
00:50:05,540 --> 00:50:08,440
Same be careful. I'll eat them all

567
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,860
That's fine. Yeah, they said it was a foolish lot, huh?

568
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:23,060
Could you like a holiday meetup, and I could make Hanukkah food stuff. We don't do holidays and DGG. We don't do the Hanukkah. Yeah. Oh

569
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,600
Okay, I guess I'll just dance incident

570
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:32,840
Wait, what was Dan's incident? Dan, what happened? Is it here? Oh, he's not here right now. Oh, it's his story to share

571
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,280
He's what you say. He can't celebrate Hanukkah around a school anymore stop

572
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:41,840
He's gonna get met your dad. He's gonna ruin you. That's your fault

573
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,920
Why would you you know he doesn't like that show?

574
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,280
You know he doesn't like that. Wow

575
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,360
unbelievable

576
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,640
I just about really glad you enjoyed it. Oh, yeah. I still have to try multiple soup

577
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,380
They had multiple soup, but it looked like they ran out of it. I guess

578
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:07,920
At what else I've had home intentions during Perum, but it's a common torsion

579
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,700
Stimper they sound like fucking exotic genetic diseases. What are you talking about?

580
00:51:13,740 --> 00:51:17,000
Okay, it's a cookie. It's a triangle. It's

581
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:24,520
meant to symbolize a hush ferocious his hat yeah, cuz he was evil and

582
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,640
Poor him is a dope holiday because

583
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,880
Yeah, she did a Persian woman

584
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,480
Yes, I had to pretend to meet you

585
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,880
To get into a play

586
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:50,040
He's you know what if you want to be Jewish, I'll let you I'll give you the pass

587
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:58,960
Real great time to be Jewish right now. Yeah, if you want to be Jewish right now like you go ahead girl

588
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,160
Take a night my sister and my mom worked at a catering company

589
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:09,520
I was inside of a synagogue. So they okay, they like made food at the synagogue

590
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:18,320
Completely kosher. There were two different kitchens obviously and I would go to work with them and like do menial tasks unpaid and

591
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,880
classic

592
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:26,960
There was like a little play for the kids during Purim and then during Hanukkah and stuff

593
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:32,320
And they wanted me to be a part of it, but it was only for the Jewish kids. So I had to pretend to be Jewish

594
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,520
Tell them about the web pins

595
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:42,480
God so I oh god, this is probably one of my love for Jewish people began

596
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,520
This is now an apex dream go ahead

597
00:52:53,680 --> 00:53:02,000
So after one of these plays after one of these plays some rich-ass Jewish dad at the time

598
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:10,560
This was at the peak of webkins being cool, and they were at least $17 each

599
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,320
He bought it had to have been hundreds of them

600
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,600
And he was giving away to all of the kids

601
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,800
He was giving one entire webkin away

602
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,600
And so I got a fur I got a webcam and I was freaking out about it

603
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,200
But then I was like there's so many of them. They're not gonna recognize me

604
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,120
You stole a webcam from a Jewish daddy

605
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:39,440
Well, he had his minions giving them out. He had hundreds

606
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:46,520
So I got a second one and then my sister who was nine years older than me got one

607
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,720
for a second and then I was like wow I

608
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:56,640
Love Jewish people. I have four webkins now. I loved it. So yeah, sorry

609
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,800
Interesting. I'm so glad you love Jewish people that makes me so happy

610
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:07,400
Not that many people do so, you know, yeah, we're about to be on the outs by the way

611
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,880
DJG with the Jews after this coming election because I'm feeling him. He's always there, and he's always coming back

612
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:23,560
Every single Jewish person I know every is really knows like yeah, so I'm voting for I don't even know they were just

613
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:29,520
Yeah, I'm gonna go my whole family supports net. Yeah, I don't like why all of them all of them

614
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,800
That's horrible. I fucking hate him

615
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,560
Dude big Yahoo needs to go down

616
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,520
Anybody around

617
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,920
Peach, can you tell me what you just dandry oh?

618
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,440
Why you should tell them that's funny, why would I tell them that oh?

619
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:55,280
It sounds like it's something bad sure well, I just don't know. She said who is that is that the New York City?

620
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,680
That's fine listen

621
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,920
That's refreshing

622
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,140
Honesty okay, she's an or me

623
00:55:08,820 --> 00:55:15,400
She asks questions shamelessly and that's good. Okay. I love that no girl. I love that. He's the prime minister of Israel

624
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:35,840
They have their leader is like also the leader of their Parliament and they usually to call their prime minister a lot of countries have

625
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,080
Or some countries will have like presidents, but the president like an Israel does nothing

626
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,520
I don't even know what I don't even know if the president has any official roles

627
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:46,960
He might so they'll have like presidents, but the prime minister is like our prime minister in Canada. Yes

628
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:53,560
Except I think it's I don't know if it's quite ceremonial, but I think it's pretty worthless like in Israel

629
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,560
I think it's like literally like a spokesperson guy

630
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,880
And I think in Israel, do you guys vote directly or shouldn't you say you guys cuz you're not an Israeli

631
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:10,000
But do they vote directly on their prime minister or is it because I'm not wait cuz I'm not Israeli. What's we are you Israeli?

632
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:15,820
Yes, well, I don't fucking keep track of everybody's nationally Jesus Christ

633
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,560
Why would I know this okay? Wait, we are do you guys vote on your?

634
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:27,760
Prime Minister, why would you not know this? Why would I know everybody word nationality?

635
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:34,080
You don't know my nationality at this point in our friendship. I don't know half the people so now

636
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,080
I don't even know if mr. Moon is American anymore

637
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,400
ma'am. Yeah, right

638
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,800
What the fuck do you wait? Do you guys vote directly on your prime minister? Dude? I just threw my sword

639
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,800
I don't know what the fuck you want. What the fuck?

640
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:49,200
Dude, how should I know? I don't live there anymore. Oh my God

641
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:53,720
It's nourished bitch

642
00:56:55,300 --> 00:56:57,300
What the word in my

643
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,120
Oh

644
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,040
Really didn't know that I

645
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:10,320
Know why the fuck right? I don't listen. I don't see all the time. I don't see race

646
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:15,680
I don't see nationality. I don't see color trolling right now. Are you like trolling? I just I see race

647
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,600
Really? Well, it's hard not to see it. It's hard not to see the race when you're a last place constantly

648
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,380
Haha, you know, you know, you know

649
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,360
Are you trolling right now?

650
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:36,300
No, what why would I remember? What's that guy in New York called?

651
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,620
We call him Zordon and what's the other one called?

652
00:57:44,820 --> 00:57:48,520
Somehow they sound so familiar to me. It's called being white

653
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:56,780
When people say one and the other it just sounds like the same word for whoa fucking a man. Oh

654
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:03,720
Finally someone will say fucking hey, I don't mean that in a bad way. It just means to my ears either

655
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,960
interesting

656
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:14,180
I feel like I've learned so much recently in my life, that's good. That's how life goes should always be learning

657
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:21,280
Did you see wait was it Paxton who's first or was it another guy who's first ad for?

658
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,500
No, no, it wouldn't have been Paxton. I'm sorry in Georgia. I just felt Georgia wrong

659
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,440
Yes, that was a Collins my Collins. It was my call

660
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:41,000
After all that shit about the Leering Center these motherfuckers. Oh my god, okay, that's not some time

661
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,840
Yes in which basket third way is putting their eggs in oh

662
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,960
My god, that's awesome

663
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:53,000
I'm not gonna lie. I think it's pretty awesome that third way is like

664
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,400
openly leaning into a guy

665
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,760
Who currently is in court or distribution of revenge pornography?

666
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,120
This is what I mean when I okay, I gotta let moat you have no research topic

667
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:15,000
Yeah, what is third way is this lady part of third way is that it is to just a think tank or he hates the third way people bro

668
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:21,480
Third way is a think tank. It's a I think it's a democratic think tank. Yeah, okay. Oh my god

669
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,680
He hates him. He hates him

670
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:30,340
They say which means we should get the sex-pestany community destroys everything

671
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:37,320
And I think it's going to be I think it's going to be helpful I

672
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,520
think it's going to be helpful to to

673
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:48,200
undermine this ideological opponent that's doing everything in its power to to

674
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:55,720
Rid their left flank of any influence that we fought for and this is a fairly powerful think tank

675
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,720
so if this fairly powerful think tank is

676
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,240
and

677
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:11,240
casting aside

678
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,320
sex is fairly powerful think tank is casting aside their legitimacy

679
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:19,360
because of their desperation to find any content creators that are also as

680
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:26,360
anti-left as they are a reminder of some of them for being an anti-semitment religion in an effort to do so they're

681
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:32,120
I don't know. DDG and Roger trying very hard to get you banned for Elijah Manley's arrest law that's

682
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:42,040
okay listen I am a cock and I admit that I am a cock I admit it okay we're all on the same page

683
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:47,960
okay despite the pressure sometimes from people around me okay

684
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:53,080
there is a much higher chance that I quit doing anything related to politics online

685
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:58,200
that I just openly embracing lying about the most like obviously retarded shit I cannot do it okay

686
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,680
the I look at that Elijah Manley shit as much as I want to hate the dude for being some weirdo

687
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,360
lefty sellout the that seems like fucking bullshit did you read that

688
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,280
oh we talked about that a little bit the Elijah Manley guy who got

689
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:21,880
charged for I guess like what was it threats yeah but it was like she was bullshit yeah

690
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:27,240
it was bullshit almost certainly bullshit he will beat that he was like I'm gonna

691
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,840
a free speech like uh I'm gonna burn this fucking village down if you guys don't

692
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:36,280
vote for Angie Nixon unlike it was like a Facebook comment is fucking retarded so fuck that shit

693
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:43,320
and yeah I don't think I think the worst comment he made was like a little bit cut the head off yeah

694
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,920
a little dusty that was the worst one that was a little dusty ass like I would cut the head off

695
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:53,560
over whatever I'm gonna cut your head off yeah but like these were not real threats okay stop no they weren't

696
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,720
how was that I don't even understand how you can connect that to me but that's

697
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,600
I'm sure they're trying connect what even a manlies arrest law oh that's

698
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:16,200
how was that I don't even understand how you can connect that to me but that's

699
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,840
I'm sure they're trying okay why doesn't he just go look and defend it

700
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:26,280
um because he lost what do you mean oh he doesn't care yeah give a fuck if the guy

701
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,920
loses the election when was the last time we heard the guy bring up practice the harm

702
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,760
he's like I don't like suckers and losers exactly yeah no shit he's looking for that

703
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,840
cloud baby he wants the cloudy the cloudy cloudy cloudy cloudy cloudy

704
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:47,320
uh the rapper DG no DG um the sex cult of the guy that I just showed you that there is cleaning

705
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:55,800
into sex our story doesn't just end with the sex girl way there's also um our uh tireless

706
01:02:55,800 --> 01:03:03,800
researcher ai researcher no he's got no because me and hutch are using it he's copying us

707
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:15,400
in the community where is it where is it where is it louis riel

708
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:23,720
made a very interesting oh this dude okay listen I don't know if I just haven't seen through the

709
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:28,440
matrix yet and or maybe I'm just being biased or I don't know but like when people put together

710
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:33,880
like entire projects and it's like very obviously that the whole thing is like massively like AI

711
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:40,200
slobified I don't know have you seen do you know this guy he's talking about nope oh it

712
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,480
somebody who just ran a search a bunch a whole bunch of accounts and is like this is like the

713
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:50,680
GG operation or whatever oh I do know exactly yeah yeah it's okay it's pretty you skits though yeah

714
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:57,320
it is but okay I also I've said this a million times but like it's annoying because it's like

715
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:02,440
I am the most accessible large figure on the internet if somebody thinks there's some weird

716
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,800
shit happening or whatever you can literally just message me and talk about it we can just

717
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,720
talk about it I do everything out in the open why the fuck what kind of a man would post

718
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:17,320
information about people openly in his chat on his main account and then do weird off platform

719
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:23,880
whatever shit like cringe oh also I did a quick google search earlier oh my god

720
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,760
I'm about to supercharge that liberal action network apparently you can export your twitter

721
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:34,680
blockless again whoo baby oh yeah god damn it

722
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:48,840
this thing spread sheet documenting and identifying the president of yet a another

723
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:58,200
oh the president of yet another premier center left quote unquote center left think tank

724
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,760
NIRATIC!

725
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:10,100
We like to call it is like his number one off is near I'm starting to I think I'm like the only man

726
01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:14,360
That this guy fights with that might only be because I have a woman's name. I think it might

727
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:19,180
Destiny what the fuck guy hates women. He hates he's obsessed

728
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,520
Nira Shannon co center left

729
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,760
Mearity Tandon we like to call her near a tavern

730
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,680
Be a retanden beer a zanden

731
01:05:34,020 --> 01:05:36,020
Smear a Tandon

732
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:43,160
Okay, well it turns out near loves to tweet so we are not allowed to actually critique

733
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:51,620
The the institutional power within the party that has caused this corruption true that voters hate

734
01:05:51,620 --> 01:05:56,240
Yep, that voters despise because the voters are like we want certain things about Medicare fraud

735
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:00,800
We want to end all aid to Israel and none of the Democrats are listening to us

736
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:07,140
What the hell is going on and if someone were to identify exactly please address us on a self-descript self-declared sex

737
01:06:14,540 --> 01:06:19,540
He was like people like yeah, people want to get mad at me for because I went to a legal brothel

738
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,560
I was just a tourist

739
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:32,040
Of all the words to you, why would you use the word tourists? Oh fucking stupid. Oh my god

740
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:41,920
The where this divergence is coming from who is responsible for this divergence between where the voters are and where the party

741
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:47,200
Representatives are then that's actually infighting and that's bad and dangerous

742
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:52,480
But if you are a centrist Democrat with institutional power, you can go and do the media

743
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,000
Consultant consultant loves that one

744
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,000
But that is where we're at

745
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:06,040
But like I said, it's it's very funny in their endless desperation to find any kind of social media players that they can to defend the

746
01:07:06,180 --> 01:07:08,180
centrist flank of the party

747
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,480
The centrist flank. Yeah, Mizzie is is

748
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:17,320
Collaborating with this fucking thing. I don't even know what this wick TV and I love

749
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,880
Do this thing I didn't think this is real. I thought it was just red pillars or whatever

750
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:26,320
I didn't realize how insulting it is when you ask somebody's like, oh like who are you or what is your channel or whatever?

751
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,200
I I legit don't know anybody. I don't know. Hey, I don't know anybody

752
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,920
But like I didn't realize afterwards like people will do that shit to like fuck with you

753
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:37,400
It might have been my ring or whatever. I was I meant I mentioned something and somebody I was like

754
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,680
Oh, you know, I'm destiny or whatever and I think my room told me later

755
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,440
I think it was like yo, yo, this dude knows who you're I don't answer this guy with the fuck

756
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,920
I was like what why would he ask me who I am if he knows who I am

757
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:50,520
Like, okay, I've never even thought of that. Yeah. Yeah, it's like I thought the WHO make a little

758
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:51,360
I thought was like chat me

759
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:55,200
I know people like actually does but I noticed that son does this a lot where every time you see somebody's like

760
01:07:55,360 --> 01:08:01,460
Yeah, I don't know who this guy is wick or whatever and like yet the day before he'll be like so wick is a 32-year-old male

761
01:08:01,460 --> 01:08:07,280
That lives in Illinois who has 52 felony charges based on the reporting I have for my blah blah blah. I was like, okay

762
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:14,260
Sex pastini, that's me. So that's funny. Oh funny. Oh funny. That's cool

763
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:21,780
Desperate for any kind of influencer collaborations they can get desperate true

764
01:08:24,980 --> 01:08:26,980
What do you want what'd you join for?

765
01:08:28,940 --> 01:08:30,940
Cool, hi

766
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:38,100
Sorry, I just um joined to you had asked like what third way was I was just saying that they're

767
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,800
They're like a center left think tank and they've been pretty critical of his song. So oh

768
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,400
Yeah, oh

769
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,680
All right, well, thank you for the information. So he's got some reason. I bet he does

770
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:59,580
God I hate her I hate her more than anyone else. Abba was right. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding

771
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,120
Wait, were you here for that arc?

772
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:09,120
Abba with her I have no no no what happened? Don't worry about it. We don't talk we don't talk about

773
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:16,000
The dark ever you mean the guy who has like six fucking almost baby mama's

774
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:29,000
That was fuck that was that was we're good memes. I was funny. It's fine. I cannot believe

775
01:09:31,480 --> 01:09:35,880
That's just he's gonna fix the earth man seriously, bro

776
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:48,400
So many did a video oh my god an actual video the Finkel steamer back where I get to find out

777
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,560
13,000 views and

778
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,360
2024 a number of people I know online. We're talking about a debate that had just happened

779
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,000
They asked me if I'd seen it to the debate between destiny and things

780
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:07,080
That's me no not the mad scientist from nightmare before Christmas this was some kind of Palestine advocate guy from what I remember every by the way

781
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:15,500
Are based liberal king with great values and morals you might know online is bad up and out of has been going hard on

782
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:23,800
Been going hard on Finkelstein lately. I do like or not like but I do find it interesting that some well

783
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:30,500
Actually, I don't know about it when I was stance on Fingalstein before but like just as a reminder Fingalstein is not a historian

784
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:35,880
Okay, there is no such thing as historians that cannot speak the language of the place that they supposedly cover

785
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:41,480
He does not do original research. He literally can't do original research. He does not publish stuff

786
01:10:41,480 --> 01:10:47,560
I don't think he even knows enough to publish stuff. He is a pop historian at best at best

787
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,240
He is a pop historian at best and his bad history

788
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:55,760
So but he's like the most sighted fucking person in the western common parlance or whatever

789
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:01,060
They seems to have the same impression which is that destiny this internet celebrity streamer guy

790
01:11:01,060 --> 01:11:06,080
I sat down with a real serious person to discuss a topic that he was interested in politically and he got school

791
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:11,440
He got trounced and slapped and he was thoroughly dismantled. He really met his match true. I didn't watch it

792
01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:14,720
I mean, I didn't really care about destiny. I'd heard of him. I guess and then Finkelstein

793
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:20,520
I think someone links me the video was five hours long. I was like, no, I'm not watching this the only thing I ended up seeing were short segments from

794
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,440
The debate people made clips from in which Finkelstein seems to get destiny's name wrong

795
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:27,360
His real name is Stephen Benel. He refers to him first correctly as Mr. Benel

796
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,160
Then he changes it to mr. Borrell then mr. Borrelli and then eventually mr. Morelli

797
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:35,040
Which I think is the furthest he got from the actual name the problem mr. Morelli is later. It was revealed

798
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,800
He was doing this intention. Here's the thing that I hate the most about all of this, okay

799
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:48,160
Is how retarded all the Israel Palestine conversations are online and like the culture around it because I'm gonna be honest. Okay. I

800
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,040
Think I think Norma's kind of funny

801
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,720
And I think there's another world

802
01:11:53,720 --> 01:12:01,760
But we would have been good friends or you're me together norm fickle steam was about 60 years away from being a discord guy a discord kitten

803
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,420
He would have been the guy hopping on a discord with vegan gains to fight

804
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,600
He absolutely would have been but we just missed each other in time too much unfortunately

805
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:14,520
Maybe in the next life maybe in the next life a strip and I'll to make it sound as though

806
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,680
He was so unimportant compared with the other people at the table that he could not even be bothered to remember his name

807
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,800
Which is so unbelievably stupid and childish that as an homage to his efforts

808
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,120
I will be getting his name wrong throughout the remainder of this video though

809
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,800
I saw many people refer to this debate as though it were simply destiny versus Finkelstein there were actually four participants

810
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:33,800
Not only those two I guess destiny was the most well-known person and then Finkelstein was the main person he was opposing

811
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,680
So they were the ones that people focused on the most the presence in the room

812
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:42,480
We had Mo and Rabani and Norman Finkelstone to pro-Palestinian activists sat across from Benelle and Benny Morris a famous Israeli historian

813
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:44,640
Who's work is well regarded even by his opponents at this table?

814
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,200
Rabani is the child of Palestinian refugees born in Holland

815
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:48,960
But now working as a Middle Eastern analyst in Jordan

816
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,040
Funkelstone is an American Jew

817
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:54,520
Benny Morris is an Israeli born Jew the three people at this table who are not Benelle have each published books on the topic of Israel

818
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,800
Palestine making Benelle kind of seem like the odd man out

819
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,920
It was a now was used as the draw to bring in a younger audience who might have never been interested in watching a debate

820
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:05,240
But was simply between two old authors like Morris and Finkelstein otherwise and I feel like people practically forget about Rabani

821
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:09,760
No offense to Mr. Babani, but he feels like the participants that a general audience was the least interested in for being a debate

822
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,760
That's often framed as though being between Benelle and Finkelstone

823
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,440
It really didn't feel that way to me while watching it

824
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:17,600
But now doesn't even say his first words until 30 minutes into the video and he speaks the least of the four people at the table

825
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,480
It may have felt more like a double interest in Palestine debate. What?

826
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,040
You spoke the least out of the four people at the table

827
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:29,960
I seriously doubt that but only because I don't know how they are quantifying it by time

828
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,560
I bet that is true, but by words Finkelstein speaks so slowly

829
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,800
But like largely, but that's probably pretty close to true if not for how slow Finkelstein speaks

830
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:43,000
Yeah, I really didn't especially in the first half of the debate because I was trying to be I think yeah

831
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,240
No, no, this is the only video I've asked this before

832
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:48,720
I was really trying to be like really polite and I was getting a little bit kind of thrown off by that

833
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,920
Finkelstein dude being so fucking rude and then it was on the first it was the first or second break

834
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,160
We're both

835
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:58,840
Lex and Benny were like, bro, you got to turn to the fuck up you got to go in on this clown and I'm like, all right

836
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,240
And then it was a second half or I'm a little bit more

837
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,640
aggressive, yeah

838
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,680
If all you saw were the clips that people posted of Finkelstein shouting at destiny for various reasons

839
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:12,080
Which may have been the moments that stood out the most out of everything over the five hours notably

840
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,600
It is what the host Lex Friedman put in the preview intro segments

841
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,960
You're literally you're such a fantastic moron. It's terrifying

842
01:14:18,440 --> 01:14:22,640
Now I'd probably have forgotten about this debate entirely if it weren't for the fact that people continue bringing it up

843
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:27,560
I still sometimes see people reference that time that Benel talks to Finkelstone not too many days ago on October 9th

844
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,600
I saw Wajaka Ali reference it on his Twitter page saying that Benel's debate with Finkelstone didn't go very well

845
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:37,640
That's what everyone says, but who knows that guy I see him a lot now because my algorithms. I guess like that

846
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:39,640
Who is he?

847
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,140
I walled your heart. I'll be another random

848
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:44,940
Muslim

849
01:14:44,940 --> 01:14:49,400
He's like a far left. I don't think he is a socialist, but he's like in the

850
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:56,120
Mehdi Hadassan category where he will make endless apology for all of the other socialists and obviously for his honor

851
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,320
Yeah, they're really sticking together. I'm so I'm a noticer now

852
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,460
Does Lexo talk to you? No, me and Lexo's bridge kind of got burned when I was slightly

853
01:15:06,460 --> 01:15:11,600
critical of him pushing back on Zelensky or something. It had to do with something to

854
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,760
do with Russian crane. Or maybe it was a both sizing on the Trump thing, I don't remember.

855
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,480
I think he was like, "Fuck, didn't we remember the tweet?" It was a really gentle tweet,

856
01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:23,280
but I think I was critical of him because he was being really critical of either Biden

857
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,700
or somebody else on their rhetoric and I was like, "Brah, how are you going to say this

858
01:15:26,700 --> 01:15:30,300
and you've like never ever ever criticized Trump who's like clearly fucking. It was

859
01:15:30,300 --> 01:15:35,040
something like that, I think." And then after that, he messaged me, he said I was

860
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:39,740
being unfair. And then I think the pass-out, it was all over.

861
01:15:39,740 --> 01:15:51,660
Comment or analysis about what was said during the debate.

862
01:15:51,660 --> 01:15:59,180
Destiny, you were constantly critical. I was very, very, very gentle with Lex, for most

863
01:15:59,180 --> 01:16:05,560
of it. Given especially considering everything, I think I was very, very, very gentle with

864
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:09,220
Lex. We only got these ambiguous, high-level claims

865
01:16:09,220 --> 01:16:12,500
about how supposedly Vennell came out looking bad. Do you think Roger Hadley really watched

866
01:16:12,500 --> 01:16:15,500
all five hours of this? So I recently decided to go back and watch this whole video myself

867
01:16:15,500 --> 01:16:18,300
because I watched the whole thing again off-stream, but for the second watch, I took notes about

868
01:16:18,300 --> 01:16:21,300
what parts of the debate I actually found interesting or substantive because a lot of

869
01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:24,560
it could have been condensed. Like in a long, informal, open-ended conversation, there's

870
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,100
naturally going to be a lot of space between points and then back and forth waffling that

871
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:31,020
doesn't really go anywhere. So have you ever been curious about what happened back then,

872
01:16:31,020 --> 01:16:33,740
but maybe not curious enough to sit through five hours of that video? Then maybe this

873
01:16:33,740 --> 01:16:37,540
will interest you. So in the beginning, after a simple introduction, each participant picks

874
01:16:37,540 --> 01:16:40,580
a few minutes to frame how they see the founding of Israel in 1948, highlighting different

875
01:16:40,580 --> 01:16:43,700
aspects of it based on their own perspective. Shinklestone focuses on the UN and diplomats,

876
01:16:43,700 --> 01:16:46,060
he notes that he agrees the two communities should have been partitioned, more as focuses

877
01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:48,900
on the Arab response, noting that while the Peel Commission recommended two states, the

878
01:16:48,900 --> 01:16:52,180
Arab side refused partition and did not even bother trying to create a state until 1948.

879
01:16:52,180 --> 01:16:54,540
Robani notes the great failure of European states who should have been more involved

880
01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:57,660
from the beginning and points out the initial UN proposal for partition unfairly favored

881
01:16:57,660 --> 01:17:00,500
the Jewish side. Mr. Benel, who doesn't say his first words until 30 minutes into the

882
01:17:00,500 --> 01:17:03,540
video, criticizes where other commentators choose to begin their telling of the story

883
01:17:03,540 --> 01:17:06,580
and notes a few things he believes are often omitted from the history to create an unfavorable

884
01:17:06,580 --> 01:17:09,700
view of the Israeli side. Shinklestone says that early on Morris' writing, Morris admits

885
01:17:09,700 --> 01:17:13,060
that expulsion of Arabs from Palestine was a core, inevitable, inbuilt part of Zionism,

886
01:17:13,060 --> 01:17:16,220
but that later on in Morris' writing he claims expulsion happened only because of the 1948

887
01:17:16,220 --> 01:17:19,620
war. So which is it? Or how does Morris reconcile this? Morris says that knockbell was inevitable

888
01:17:19,620 --> 01:17:23,660
or predictable, only because Arabs attacked the Jews in 1947 and '48. Morris clarifies

889
01:17:23,660 --> 01:17:26,940
his position is that transfer was necessary for Zionism only in a general sense that

890
01:17:26,940 --> 01:17:29,660
could just include purchasing land, because initially the Jews didn't have any land of

891
01:17:29,660 --> 01:17:33,220
their own. Benel claims the supposed inevitability of transfer in Zionism implies that Jews would

892
01:17:33,220 --> 01:17:36,220
not accept a large Arab population in a Jewish state, but bequins out Jews did accept the

893
01:17:36,220 --> 01:17:38,820
1947 partition plan which would have done this. He asks how-

894
01:17:38,820 --> 01:17:44,100
Just as a quick thing for this, because it's so annoying the way that people quote different

895
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:51,500
parts of the history here. There were big factions within the early Zionist community

896
01:17:51,500 --> 01:17:57,740
over whether or not the Arabs would accept Jewish people living in Palestine, where you

897
01:17:57,740 --> 01:18:03,540
had some, I think you're Ben Gurians, I think we're more optimistic, who were saying things

898
01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:07,260
like, "Well, as long as we live by them and the British as well, because we're going to

899
01:18:07,260 --> 01:18:09,940
be providing taxes, we're going to be improving the land, it's going to be based, we're going

900
01:18:09,940 --> 01:18:14,060
together and it's going to be awesome and happy." And then your others, like your Jabotinsky's,

901
01:18:14,060 --> 01:18:17,500
who were like, "We're literally going there and we're stealing their land and they know

902
01:18:17,500 --> 01:18:21,740
it and they're never going to like us. They're always going to fucking hate us, okay? It is

903
01:18:21,740 --> 01:18:27,740
inevitable that we will come to a clash." So sometimes people will cite like your Jabotinsky's

904
01:18:27,740 --> 01:18:31,220
and they'll say, "Well, look, see, the Jews always wanted to fight. Their whole goal was

905
01:18:31,220 --> 01:18:34,820
to get rid of them." And I was like, "No, Jabotinsky was making a prediction on what

906
01:18:34,820 --> 01:18:39,740
the Arab response would be." And unfortunately, he was correct, he was right, they would never

907
01:18:39,740 --> 01:18:43,620
accept that in Jewish people anymore. That was, yeah. But he was making a prediction

908
01:18:43,620 --> 01:18:47,500
on what the Arab response would be more than, "We need to go and kill all of them." Like,

909
01:18:47,500 --> 01:18:49,940
that was not what he was saying.

910
01:18:49,940 --> 01:18:56,820
You can always tell who has like the bullshit historical takes based on the people who will

911
01:18:56,820 --> 01:19:04,580
pull out single quotes to explain entire, I wouldn't call it ideologies, but entire like

912
01:19:04,580 --> 01:19:09,060
eras of time of what's going on. They'll have like one quote, like he said, "The explosion

913
01:19:09,060 --> 01:19:12,740
of the Arabs was inevitable. This means that they were always going to kill every single

914
01:19:12,740 --> 01:19:14,780
woman." I was like, "Oh, what do you mean by that? Come on."

915
01:19:14,780 --> 01:19:17,940
Which state viewpoints out Jews did accept the 1947 Partition Plan, which would have done

916
01:19:17,940 --> 01:19:21,040
this. He asks how Rabbani or Finkelstein interpret Israel's acceptance of this plan and if they

917
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,540
think the Israelis would necessarily have been planning on one day expelling all Arabs from

918
01:19:24,540 --> 01:19:27,380
the territory after establishing their state, given what they've said. That's a good question.

919
01:19:27,380 --> 01:19:29,260
That's a good question. That was done replies that it was Morris who introduced to the idea

920
01:19:29,260 --> 01:19:32,020
that transfer was central design, as I'm contrary, earlier historians who did not-

921
01:19:32,020 --> 01:19:35,100
Okay, that's, well- I'd this. Nice. Dodge.

922
01:19:35,100 --> 01:19:37,860
Single-scene then repeats the quote from earlier, despite that Morris already clarified this.

923
01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:43,460
Oh, the quote. "Nothing is more cringe. He cannot even speak the fucking language."

924
01:19:43,460 --> 01:19:46,940
Then Finkelstein, we spent, I swear to God, I don't think I'm exaggerating. I think we

925
01:19:46,940 --> 01:19:53,820
spent 30 minutes arguing over he had a single quote from Benny Morris's own book and it was

926
01:19:53,820 --> 01:19:57,500
him trying to argue with Benny Morris over what that quote meant. And then Benny Morris

927
01:19:57,500 --> 01:19:59,500
was trying to say, "Well, this in context is what this means."

928
01:19:59,500 --> 01:20:00,340
and he was like, "Whoa!"

929
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,240
(mimics a babbling)

930
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,000
And that was what like the first like 30 minutes

931
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,040
of this part kind of day was agonizing.

932
01:20:08,480 --> 01:20:10,640
- Moris also denies that he describes transfer as central,

933
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,200
acknowledging that the idea was there,

934
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,360
but never became a matter of policy.

935
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,160
Finkelstone claims that Jews could not openly express

936
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,600
their desire to expel people from Palestine

937
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,160
because of the political realities on the ground

938
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:19,280
that would have made doing this difficult,

939
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,400
as the Arabs would naturally have fought back against it.

940
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,200
- I also hate this, I hate the whole like, well,

941
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,920
they were saying it, but then also they could never say it.

942
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,040
It's like the whole like they're committing a genocide,

943
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,720
but not too hard because they don't want to get caught

944
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:31,560
committing a genocide.

945
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,600
And it's like all the debate on the early Zionist shit,

946
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:35,800
this was open fucking debate.

947
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:37,520
These guys were debating this shit like crazy.

948
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,560
They were right, they were writings amongst each others.

949
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:40,720
They were writing whole fucking books,

950
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:41,800
a Jewish nation or whatever.

951
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,960
By the hurts of people, there was the Jewish Congress.

952
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,000
These guys had open debates all the time.

953
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,720
The reason why you have so many Jabotinsky quotes

954
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:48,880
to pull out is because they were open debates

955
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:49,720
about all this, what do you mean?

956
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:50,880
Like they couldn't say, they couldn't be honest

957
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:51,720
with what they wanted.

958
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:52,800
Like what?

959
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:53,720
- But that's what it would spell them.

960
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,120
Finkelstone seems to be implying in this part

961
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:56,640
that Israelis would indeed have been planning

962
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,040
to eventually expel all Arabs.

963
01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:58,940
If that's not what he meant to them,

964
01:20:58,940 --> 01:21:00,280
Benel's question simply went unanswered.

965
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:01,960
The question then is, is the idea that Israelis

966
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:03,560
would eventually have wanted to expel all Arabs

967
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:04,520
supported by evidence?

968
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,080
Robani claims that Theodore Herzl advocated

969
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:07,040
for transfer in his diary,

970
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,240
writing that it was essential to remove

971
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:09,600
the existing population from Palestine.

972
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,000
Morris responds, disputing this and claiming

973
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,280
that Herzl mentions transfer only once

974
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:13,400
in his multi-volume diary.

975
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:14,440
And it was unclear whether he was even

976
01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:16,000
really referring to Palestine or some other place

977
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,080
in the instance that he mentioned it.

978
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:18,760
Either way, it was not essential to Herzl's thinking.

979
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:19,920
That was roughly the one hour mark.

980
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,360
Benel asks if early Zionist bleep.

981
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,960
- This is also like an important thing is like the amount,

982
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,680
I said this before, like one of the biggest issues

983
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,480
that laymen have with any particular topic

984
01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:28,920
is like the magnitude.

985
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,280
Like if somebody tells me, you know,

986
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,200
if you want to make a good piece of software,

987
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,800
you need to pay your workers well,

988
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,800
you need to use Python, you do whatever,

989
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,120
I don't know how important any of these things are.

990
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:39,520
I don't know anything about fucking software development.

991
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,200
Maybe one of these things is like super duper important

992
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,400
and maybe the other thing doesn't fucking matter at all.

993
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:44,240
I'm a layman, I don't know anything

994
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:45,200
about software development.

995
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,160
Same thing here for, you know,

996
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,880
somebody bring, well Herzl talked about population transfer.

997
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:51,160
And then for Benel Morris to kind of,

998
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,880
well he brought this up one time and he wrote a lot.

999
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,680
This clearly is not an important idea to him.

1000
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,200
I'm also curious, I would have to go look for it.

1001
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:58,640
I'm too lazy and I've got a loaner box right here.

1002
01:21:58,640 --> 01:21:59,840
I have to go ask him.

1003
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:01,120
When we say population transfer,

1004
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:02,360
I wonder if he meant like transfer

1005
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,680
from the entire Levant, that entire like Palestine area,

1006
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:07,400
or if he meant transfer from the areas

1007
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,040
where Jews bought land and then moved there to work land.

1008
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:11,200
- Herzl, Herzl, or Ben-Gurion,

1009
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:12,840
saw their country as a Western-style nation?

1010
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:14,200
Then how could they plan to?

1011
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,840
- Hold on, wait, I don't understand this point.

1012
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,320
How can one not be a historian of a region

1013
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:19,320
if you cannot speak the local language?

1014
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:20,160
What do you mean?

1015
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:21,840
Generally, not, I'm sorry, not generally speaking.

1016
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,920
My understanding is all the time basically,

1017
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,840
if you're a historian, you have to be able

1018
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,200
to consult the original source material.

1019
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,000
You need to be able to read archives,

1020
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,840
you don't have to rely on other people's translations.

1021
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:37,960
And it's just gonna be the case that if you're studying a region,

1022
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,720
if you're doing history for a region,

1023
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,280
that you're gonna be actively working

1024
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:42,800
in the language of that region,

1025
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,560
I mean, I guess I'm not a huge studier of history,

1026
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,840
but in the little bit of history that I have studied,

1027
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:53,280
I'm just not aware of any well-known historian.

1028
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:54,360
When I say well-known historian,

1029
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,080
I mean like a researcher, or somebody that writes

1030
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:58,760
real history books, not pop history books,

1031
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,160
that can't speak the language of the region

1032
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,560
that they're studying, I just don't think it's a thing.

1033
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:09,360
- Well, 400,000 Arabs after accepting the partition plan,

1034
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:10,640
wouldn't this destroy their legitimacy

1035
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:11,480
with the rest of the world?

1036
01:23:11,480 --> 01:23:12,880
The purpose of this question being casted out

1037
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,520
on the assumption that this is what Israelis would have done

1038
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:15,600
and the event the plan was accepted?

1039
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,280
For about the answers, no, because displacing

1040
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:18,920
darkener people had been done by Western countries

1041
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,200
for a long time now.

1042
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:25,160
- That is such a, that's such a wild fucking modern take

1043
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:26,200
on things.

1044
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:27,480
- They're the Browns.

1045
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:29,520
They wouldn't have cared or awkward.

1046
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:30,880
- Fungalstone adds that Bertrand Russell,

1047
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,000
member of the UK labor party,

1048
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,440
was in favor of removing Arabs from Palestine in the 1940s.

1049
01:23:34,440 --> 01:23:35,880
Ergo the West would really not have had an issue

1050
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:36,800
with Israel where to do this.

1051
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,360
Fungalstone also says that if Jews had migrated

1052
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:39,520
to the country and to become a majority

1053
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:40,400
without displacing anybody,

1054
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,120
the Arabs would have had no choice but to accept this.

1055
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:43,880
Benel emphasizes again that Fungalstone's position

1056
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:44,960
that Jews would never accept to the state

1057
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,200
with a significant Arab population

1058
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,280
contradicts Israel's acceptance

1059
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:48,520
of the 1948 partition plan.

1060
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,120
Fungalstone suggests that this is merely a difference

1061
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,720
between ideology and practical reality.

1062
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,600
He points out that Zionists didn't even openly say

1063
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,560
they wanted a Jewish state until 1942.

1064
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,240
Morris says the Zionists wanted a Jewish state

1065
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,240
but that a Jewish state does not require expelling the Arabs.

1066
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,160
It's possible that it just draw borders around the areas

1067
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,120
where the Jewish population's already were thus carving out

1068
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,080
a Jewish majority region without displacing anybody.

1069
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,160
He reiterates the Jews have accepted a large Arab minority

1070
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,000
in the country and ended up with one even after the war.

1071
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,320
As over 20% of--

1072
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:15,240
- The facts on the ground in '47 and '48 betray

1073
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:19,120
every single ultra-pro-Palestinian narrative

1074
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:20,560
that they try to give for this, right?

1075
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,560
The Jews did accept a state where like 40 to 45%

1076
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,240
of the inhabitants would have been Arabs, literally.

1077
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,120
So how can you say they didn't want any of them there?

1078
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,240
After they won the Civil War and then the War of Independence,

1079
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:36,400
they still had a sizable Arab population in the country.

1080
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,280
Why would they leave them there if Plan D, Plan Dalit,

1081
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,600
if the knockball was all about expelling every single Arab?

1082
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,960
It's just not, this is just not the case.

1083
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,040
Population in Israel in 1949 was Arab.

1084
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,840
Benel asks what the ideal solution was for Arabs in 1947.

1085
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,960
Rabani says they would have wanted a united federal state.

1086
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:53,240
Moristus beats this characterization,

1087
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,560
saying really what the Arabs had wanted was an Arab state.

1088
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,640
He says Amenel Husaini said that Jews who came to the region

1089
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,160
after 1917, which was most of them, must leave.

1090
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,300
"Ribani says despite this he believes it's possible they could have arranged to stay in 1947 and that Jewish fear is about mistreatment in such a state would not-"

1091
01:25:05,300 --> 01:25:09,900
"Source. Source. Source. Source. Source. Source. Source. How would you even know that?"

1092
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,900
"I have come to pass. More as emphasizes that their fear was a second holocaust. Not a very comfortable risk."

1093
01:25:14,900 --> 01:25:21,300
"Ribani says the fear of a second holocaust was unfounded because Palestinians were not going to import ovens and crematoria from Germany, strangely trivializing their safety."

1094
01:25:21,300 --> 01:25:26,100
"Bannell says the violence doesn't need to take the exact form that it took in Nazi Germany. There were programs in most Arab states."

1095
01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:31,600
"Oh, and a good example would have been the big one that people, the Jewish people had in mind at the time."

1096
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,100
"I hope I'd rather start, would have been in 29. There was a massacre in Iran."

1097
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:41,100
"These fears were realistic. Ribani claims that Jews in these countries had never had issues prior to Zionism and the modern state of Israel."

1098
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:43,500
"More as disagrees, claiming there were many programs prior to Zionism."

1099
01:25:43,500 --> 01:25:49,900
"Bannell claims that if Jews only fled these countries after Israel existed, it was because they endured being second-class citizens only because they didn't really have an alternative until then."

1100
01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:54,700
"Bannell complains about selective critical analysis, referring to how some people recognized the nuances of Jewish people fleeing the region."

1101
01:25:54,700 --> 01:26:00,500
"Where it's a combination of people being directly violently forced out, people leaving preemptively due to fear about the possibility of being directly violently forced out."

1102
01:26:00,500 --> 01:26:03,200
"And people simply choosing to migrate because they think life would be better somewhere else."

1103
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,100
"And it can be hard to tell the difference between these things when all-"

1104
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:06,100
"Trow!"

1105
01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:07,300
"Good point, very nuanced."

1106
01:26:07,300 --> 01:26:13,200
"We know is that a large number of people moved at some point. Yet this type of nuance is lost when it comes to talking about Arabs being expelled from Israel in 1948."

1107
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,900
"Which is spoken of as though it were simply a top-down expulsion where everybody was violently forced out."

1108
01:26:16,900 --> 01:26:23,700
"Bannell stops complaining about the language, saying the term Jewish shouldn't be used, and one should instead talk about Zionists pre-1948 or Israelis post-1948."

1109
01:26:23,700 --> 01:26:29,100
"Bannell says these two categories wouldn't be sufficient. The Jews attacked and Arab countries were neither Israelis nor necessarily Zionists, merely Jews."

1110
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:33,300
"Funklestone says Israelis draw a false parallel between Jews who fled from Arab countries and Arabs expelled from Israel."

1111
01:26:33,300 --> 01:26:36,500
"He claims there's really little scholarship on what happened in Arab countries which caused Jews to leave."

1112
01:26:36,500 --> 01:26:37,700
"He references an author named Ben-"

1113
01:26:37,700 --> 01:26:39,500
"I wonder why?!"

1114
01:26:39,500 --> 01:26:41,700
"That me, who said it's not true to say that Iraqi Jews were expelled."

1115
01:26:41,700 --> 01:26:42,300
"More as partially abused."

1116
01:26:42,300 --> 01:26:42,800
"I talked about you."

1117
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,700
"The right tracing is probably pushed out rather than expelled."

1118
01:26:44,700 --> 01:26:46,300
"And that there was a combination of push and pull."

1119
01:26:46,300 --> 01:26:50,400
"More as then addresses the idea that Arabs had nothing to do with the Holocaust, but the world made them pay the price for it."

1120
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:54,600
"He says this is slightly distorting, because it conceals how the Arabs did try to block Jews fleeing Europe during the Holocaust."

1121
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,900
"From reaching safe haven with the Jewish community already in Palestine."

1122
01:26:56,900 --> 01:26:59,800
"And to Saini, the Palestinian leader, worked for the Nazis in the 1940s."

1123
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:00,800
"He helped recruit for the SS."

1124
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,700
"He and Oaxmas wanted to kill all Jews in the Middle East."

1125
01:27:02,700 --> 01:27:06,100
"So it's kind of true that Arabs paid a price for the Holocaust in a sense, but more as thinks it worth pointing out."

1126
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:08,300
"They also participated in various ways in helping it happen."

1127
01:27:08,300 --> 01:27:12,300
"Clarifying, Robani says that if Hussein did not exist and no Palestinians aided the Nazis in any capacity."

1128
01:27:12,300 --> 01:27:14,500
"The Holocaust would still have happened more or less exactly as it did."

1129
01:27:14,500 --> 01:27:17,100
"And so Arab participation was not a deciding factor in any results."

1130
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:18,500
"More as instantly and easily agrees."

1131
01:27:18,500 --> 01:27:21,300
"Robani adds that he thinks Arabs only rejected Jewish immigration into the region."

1132
01:27:21,300 --> 01:27:24,000
"Because they knew that it would lead to a Jewish state that would later seek to expel them."

1133
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:25,500
"Funklestone agrees, claiming roughly the same."

1134
01:27:25,500 --> 01:27:28,400
"Robani says that Zionism would not have survived if it were not protected by the British."

1135
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,100
"He says the Balfour Declaration sought to create a Jewish protectorate in the region."

1136
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:34,600
"The more says the British Jews and Arabs all understood the declaration to be a commitment to a state."

1137
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,900
"Not to an ambiguous home of some kind, but to a state."

1138
01:27:36,900 --> 01:27:39,800
"He says Britons may have been motivated by imperial interest, but also by idealism."

1139
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,200
"Even in 1917, believing they owed the Jews a great debt for past persecution."

1140
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,500
"The Zionist Jews were happy to receive British support at the time."

1141
01:27:45,500 --> 01:27:48,100
"But more as points out, the British were also not consistent supporters of Zionism."

1142
01:27:48,100 --> 01:27:51,700
"They turned against the Zionist during the mandatory Palestine period, limiting Jewish immigration to the region."

1143
01:27:51,700 --> 01:27:54,100
"Robani says the British position was only based on imperial interest."

1144
01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:57,800
"And that if there had been no threat to the Suez Canal during World War I, there would be no Balfour Declaration."

1145
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,300
"He again says the British did not have a Jewish state in mind, but a British protectorate loyal to the British."

1146
01:28:01,300 --> 01:28:05,300
"Robani says a Zionist organization, the Leiki, proposed in the alliance with Nazi Germany in 1941."

1147
01:28:05,300 --> 01:28:09,700
"How would that have even made sense? How would that have even made sense? The Suez Canal was Egyptian."

1148
01:28:09,700 --> 01:28:15,500
"It's not like Israel being there, controlled the Suez, and now there was a war later on, kind of sort of for it."

1149
01:28:15,500 --> 01:28:18,600
"But then even that they'd lost, and America told the fuck off."

1150
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:20,400
"This is of shared ideological principles."

1151
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:24,400
"The Leiki was a Jewish militia founded in 1940, whose main goal was expelling British forces from Palestine."

1152
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,600
"Because the British were restricting Jews from immigrating to the area."

1153
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,900
"Morris says the Leiki was a small, unimportant organization of only 300 or so people."

1154
01:28:29,900 --> 01:28:31,700
"And they did not share an ideology with the Nazis."

1155
01:28:31,700 --> 01:28:33,100
"They just wanted arms to fight the British."

1156
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:36,800
"Robani, in response to the suggestion the Leiki was unimportant at the time, says one of the Leiki's members."

1157
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:37,500
"You get such a mirror."

1158
01:28:37,500 --> 01:28:38,700
"Later became Israeli Prime Minister."

1159
01:28:38,700 --> 01:28:41,500
"Morris replies this was not until over 40 years later in 1982."

1160
01:28:41,500 --> 01:28:44,000
"The fact of future Prime Minister was a member of a small militant group in his youth."

1161
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,200
"Doesn't make that group important."

1162
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,400
"This is roughly the two hour mark."

1163
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:47,000
"Our three."

1164
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,600
"Bennell asks what the purpose is of suggesting the Leiki had a shared ideology with Nazis."

1165
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,000
"Fanklestone answers on Robani's behalf."

1166
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:56,300
"Deflecting the question by saying that's only as unimportant as earlier bringing up Al-Husaines' involvement with the Nazis."

1167
01:28:56,300 --> 01:28:58,100
"While it wasn't the most important thing on the issue."

1168
01:28:58,100 --> 01:29:00,500
"Morris points out that Al-Husaines was the brand-mufdi of Jerusalem."

1169
01:29:00,500 --> 01:29:02,200
"A position of great power and leadership in Palestine."

1170
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:02,700
"I was."

1171
01:29:02,700 --> 01:29:04,500
"Where as the Leiki was a relatively small gang of no-repute."

1172
01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:06,400
"Consider terrorists and denounced by other Zionists."

1173
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:07,100
"And that's also true."

1174
01:29:07,100 --> 01:29:09,400
"So even if you don't think it's important or interesting that Al-Husaines was working for the Nazis."

1175
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:15,400
"Not just denounced by other Zionists but literally denounced by the first prime minister of Israel."

1176
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,400
"Whose primary Friday for the Hagena, which was tens of thousands strong."

1177
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:18,900
"As opposed to the Leiki, which is 300 strong."

1178
01:29:18,900 --> 01:29:24,900
"The Hagena was what made up the bulk of and became generally the IDF after the country of Israel was formed."

1179
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:27,700
"It's really not the same."

1180
01:29:27,700 --> 01:29:31,000
"Robani refers again to Shamir saying that a prime minister of Israel was part of the Leiki."

1181
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,200
"Morris reiterates that he was not prime minister in 1941."

1182
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:34,400
"He was merely a random person."

1183
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:38,200
"The Leiki is not important just because one of their members would decades later get into politics."

1184
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,600
"Morris says the Hamas charter is genocidal. The Jews must be eradicated from the land."

1185
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,900
"He says this is the ideology behind the October 7th attack."

1186
01:29:43,900 --> 01:29:47,600
"He claims that Sinwar, the head of Hamas, knew the result of October 7th would be a counter-offensive by Israel."

1187
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,200
"That would result in many Palestinians dying."

1188
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:50,700
"And Hamas accepted this outcome and did it anyway."

1189
01:29:50,700 --> 01:29:53,000
"Because they hoped that this would harm Israel in the eyes of the world."

1190
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:54,500
"In that sense Hamas is getting what it wanted."

1191
01:29:54,500 --> 01:29:56,400
"But the Palestinian people are the ones paying the price."

1192
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,700
"Robani agrees the 1988 Hamas charter is anti-Semitic but not genocidal."

1193
01:29:59,700 --> 01:30:00,200
"And points out."

1194
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,920
that Hamas issued a new charter in 2017.

1195
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:02,760
Mars disputes this.

1196
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,240
He says Hamas made a statement in 2017,

1197
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:05,220
but this was not really a charter,

1198
01:30:05,220 --> 01:30:06,960
and it does not supersede the 1988 charter.

1199
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,360
Nor does it even repudiate the core goals

1200
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:09,240
of the original charter,

1201
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,300
including the complete elimination of Jews from Israel.

1202
01:30:11,300 --> 01:30:13,080
It really questions the very importance of the charter,

1203
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:14,240
as Hamas fighters don't consult it

1204
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:15,080
before going into battle.

1205
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:16,280
Mars claims that it affects the region

1206
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,040
because children are taught these goals while growing up.

1207
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:19,480
He says in Gaza, they teach kindergartners

1208
01:30:19,480 --> 01:30:20,520
they're supposed to kill the Jews.

1209
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,860
Mars claims that Hamas killed 800 or 900 civilians.

1210
01:30:22,860 --> 01:30:24,680
Funkleston says this is correct and indisputable.

1211
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:26,280
Benel says that although he called it indisputable,

1212
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,040
Funkleston actually had previously suggested

1213
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:29,080
there was doubt about that number.

1214
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:30,360
Benel says there is a conspiracy theory

1215
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,000
that the Israeli defense forces killed the majority

1216
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,000
of people on October 7th.

1217
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,000
The Finkleston says that even if the number were only 400

1218
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,200
and the rest died in the crossfire,

1219
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:37,380
that would still be a significant number

1220
01:30:37,380 --> 01:30:38,920
and Hamas would still be guilty of atrocities.

1221
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:40,680
Ramani says the official number was changed early on

1222
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:41,840
because there was some initial confusion

1223
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,800
about burned corpses that were difficult to identify.

1224
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:45,120
Benel presses them to offer an estimate.

1225
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:46,600
Ramani and Funkleston both settled on saying

1226
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:47,440
that Hamas was-

1227
01:30:47,440 --> 01:30:48,640
- The thing, I think I expressed this immediately

1228
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:49,480
after the debate.

1229
01:30:49,480 --> 01:30:50,860
One of my biggest annoyances was the fact

1230
01:30:50,860 --> 01:30:53,800
that Finkleston came off as unhinged in this debate,

1231
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,480
and even my audience was saying things like,

1232
01:30:56,480 --> 01:30:57,880
it's kind of disappointing that we didn't get

1233
01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:59,960
the really good debate because then one,

1234
01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:02,120
Rabani guy actually seemed like he was a good faith person

1235
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:02,960
that knew a lot.

1236
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:04,200
That guy is fucking insane,

1237
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,080
and this part of the convo showed me

1238
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,040
that that guy was fucking insane,

1239
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:08,920
but I never really got to push him at all

1240
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,480
on any of his crazy points because Finkleston

1241
01:31:11,480 --> 01:31:13,400
was fucking unhinged.

1242
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,040
- Clearly responsible for at least a majority

1243
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:16,160
of the reported civilian deaths,

1244
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:17,400
though they declined to be any more specific

1245
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:18,240
than saying most.

1246
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,120
Rabani says Palestinians have a right to armed resistance,

1247
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:21,560
which could include attacking Israeli military

1248
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:23,320
and intelligence facilities, but not civilians.

1249
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,040
As while you do have a right to engage in resistance,

1250
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:26,800
that resistance is still subject to the laws of war.

1251
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:27,920
Morris prompts Rabani to be clearer

1252
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:29,600
about his condemnation due to his initial phrasing,

1253
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:30,840
and notes that he would clearly condemn

1254
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,080
any time Israel kills civilians.

1255
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,200
Uncle Stone claims that Morris denies Israel attacks civilians.

1256
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:35,520
Morris disagrees and says that he's written

1257
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,400
about multiple times where Israel has attacked civilians

1258
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:39,120
like at Kafar Qasem in 1956.

1259
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:40,720
Rabani says that throughout all the media appearances

1260
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,680
he's done, nobody ever asks him to condemn Israeli actions,

1261
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:43,720
only Palestinian actions.

1262
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:45,200
Benel says this is likely because there's no shortage

1263
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:46,880
of international condemnation for Israel already.

1264
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,480
Rabani says that Palestinians had a just cause

1265
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:49,320
for war against Israel,

1266
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:50,600
but that Israel did not have a just cause

1267
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:51,840
for operations, swords of iron,

1268
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,600
which is the name for Israel's military response

1269
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,600
to October 7th, not often you hear people use that name.

1270
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:56,880
Fenclistek says that Morris is writing

1271
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:58,880
about the 1982 Lebanon war is inconsistent.

1272
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,320
He reads a sentence from one of Morris's books

1273
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,480
in which he writes, "Israel tried to pinpoint military targets,

1274
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:03,960
but inevitably many civilians were hit."

1275
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:05,400
He says no other mainstream account of the war

1276
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,280
characterizes Israel's attacks so gently.

1277
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,320
Then he says Morris's description of the second Intifada

1278
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:10,320
and of defensive shield,

1279
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,440
the 2002 Israeli military operation, was pure apologetics,

1280
01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:15,560
implying there was unfairly or inaccurately defensive

1281
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:16,480
of Israel's actions.

1282
01:32:16,480 --> 01:32:18,160
Morris says Arab suicide bombers were killing Jews

1283
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:19,000
in large numbers.

1284
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:19,920
He says during the second Intifada,

1285
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,000
4,000 Arabs were killed, mostly armed gunmen,

1286
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,400
and 1,000 Israelis were killed, almost all of them civilians.

1287
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:25,880
Benel says that unfortunately, there's no war

1288
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:27,400
without civilian death, and civilians dying

1289
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:28,840
doesn't automatically indicate a war crime,

1290
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:30,400
especially when fighting against a force like Hamas

1291
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,320
that's trying to induce civilian death on their own side.

1292
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:33,720
He says that Hamas is guilty of war crimes,

1293
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:34,720
including using human shields.

1294
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,200
He says Amnesty International acknowledges

1295
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:37,280
Hamas's use of human shields,

1296
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:38,600
though it doesn't correctly identify this

1297
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:39,800
as violating international law.

1298
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:41,800
Fenclistek says Benel doesn't understand international law

1299
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:42,880
because it's not on Wikipedia.

1300
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:44,160
Benel points out that international law

1301
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:45,600
is, in fact, hosted on Wikipedia.

1302
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:46,440
Rabbani says Benel says,

1303
01:32:46,440 --> 01:32:49,080
"I didn't really say that 'cause that's not a good one."

1304
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:50,880
He's cold and calculating and saying that civilian death

1305
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:51,720
is just a part of war,

1306
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:53,200
but then suddenly discovers morality again

1307
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:54,160
when talking about Hamas.

1308
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:55,000
Benel says it's the difference

1309
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:56,600
between civilians dying as collateral damage

1310
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:58,160
and Hamas who just choose to kill civilians,

1311
01:32:58,160 --> 01:32:59,760
not engaging in a proportionality assessment

1312
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,120
while trying to attack military targets,

1313
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:02,440
but just choosing to kill civilians.

1314
01:33:02,440 --> 01:33:04,280
They discuss a case in which people below the age of 18

1315
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:05,760
were killed by Israeli strikes on a beach.

1316
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:06,920
Benel says they were coming out of a compound

1317
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:08,240
Hamas had previously operated from.

1318
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:09,880
Fenclistek says it was an old fisherman's shack,

1319
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:10,800
though he doesn't actually dispute

1320
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:11,880
that Hamas was operating out of it.

1321
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,240
I hate a lot of these scenarios that come up

1322
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because they seem like,

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depending on how many sentences you read about them,

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they seem really bad.

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Like, I think the way that this particular,

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I'm, I guess I'm lucky.

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I can't believe this is one that actually came up,

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'cause I actually had studied this one in particular,

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studied.

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01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:28,720
I mean, I read a bunch of articles and shit on it,

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01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,440
but like in this one, it sounds like there were some kids

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playing on the beach,

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and then Israel just fucking murked these kids

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like with fucking drones.

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And it seems kind of unhinged.

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Like if you read like a two sentence blur above it,

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but then when you see the video footage,

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like there was a,

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01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:47,000
it was a, some, a man abandoned,

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01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:47,840
what do you call it?

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01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:49,160
Like a marina or something or a port?

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Like a whatever from some under some caves or whatever?

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01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,840
And these kids were playing through,

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they'd gone through like a hole that looked like

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it was cut through the fence,

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and then they all came like running out,

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and they were like, they weren't like four year olds.

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Every time they say kids, they're like four year olds.

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And apparently these were the ones that got killed

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by the, I don't know if it was by a drone

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01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,560
or by some kind of drone thing or whatever.

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01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,320
And it sucks, it's not good, you know, it sucks.

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01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:15,600
But like, the idea that,

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Israel was just like, we found some kids.

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01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:18,960
What's fucking kill 'em?

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01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,480
What's fucking kill 'em?

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01:34:20,480 --> 01:34:22,160
Is, I don't know, it just seems a little bit,

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01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,160
a little bit wacky to me.

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A little wacky.

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- Benel says that Funklestone is making a stronger claim

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than he realizes because the attack was an airstrike.

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Meaning if the decision making on Israel's part

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was that they decided to kill innocent children,

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01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:32,680
meaning that they knew that these were just kids

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01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:33,960
and that they didn't have a valid military reason

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for killing them,

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this would mean there was a chain of command

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within the military that accepted this rationale.

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As pilots doing strikes or acting based on a plan

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that runs through military intelligence

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and possibly military lawyers,

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unlike a soldier in the field who has more freedom

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01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:44,480
to shoot a person at their own discretion

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during the chaos of warfare.

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He asks if this is what Funklestone

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is really accusing the Israeli military of.

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- Fanklestone denies this and asserts that Benel doesn't understand

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how the idea operates.

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Ravi says that he doesn't even believe

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that targeting children and journalists is a top down order

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that goes through the ranks of the Israeli military.

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- I got so many, probably the most emails

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I got from military people in my entire...

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Israel-Palestine Arc was just how different, different types of like military things are that

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like the idea of a soldier committing a war crime by targeting and killing a civilian is a thing that

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is not immediately impossible or disbelievable, like your prior assumptions that would be like,

1387
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:25,760
yeah, yeah sure it could be, but the idea that there is a planned like a airstrike, especially one

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01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:30,560
that has prior surveillance on some civilians, that the idea that they would be manning a, you know,

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01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:34,800
some kind of intelligence surveillance recon mission on just ordinary ass civilians just to hit them

1390
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:42,720
with some explosive, expensive munition is beyond parody, that's like a ridiculous proposition,

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01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:46,880
like it's, it's so much more obviously some kind of intelligence failure because why the fuck would

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01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:53,120
you even waste time and resources, like monitoring and tracking like just a civilian to go on randomly

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kill, I guess it's like an unhinged position. Terry, however, he also claims that the IDF is a

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chaotic organization that might not be as disciplined as suggested. Morris, who has served in the IDF,

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it might be worthwhile to point out though it has been a while, disagrees claiming the Air Force

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in particular is very organized and that pilots would drop munitions only were told to by superiors.

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Morris says Israel has killed about 30,000 people but if they wanted to kill civilians and families,

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they could easily have killed over 500,000 by now. He says the defense on this war are not really

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so high compared with other wars like America and Vietnam. Phanglestick says the number of

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children killed in Gaza is still very high and implies that all conflicts might seem trivial when

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compared with some even larger war like World War II but that shouldn't cause us to dismiss them.

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Morris says that Phanglestick doesn't understand Israeli society if he thinks they would want to

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deliberately target civilians. Phanglestick says he doesn't want to understand Israeli society.

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It does public opinion polls suggest that most Israelis think they're using either enough or

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01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:38,000
too little force in Gaza and one Israeli minister said that they should drop an atomic bomb on Gaza.

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These he says are minds that he does not want to understand. This part is kind of bizarre,

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I mean if they're supporting things that you think seem pretty like inappropriate shouldn't

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that make you want even more to be able to understand. Also like of all the evil societies that have

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01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:54,480
existed in history and have done like evil indefensible thing like we try to we try to understand

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why he was coming out. We try to understand why people do the things they do. I don't

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always like evil people but even like the Nazis we try to understand why people do the things they

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do. The fact that at this point in the debate Phanglestick was like I can't even get into the

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01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:14,960
mind of an average of three I can't imagine. It's really so unimaginable to you. This everything

1414
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:20,880
about this is so unimaginable. That's that's pretty crazy at the very least it shows us a real

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01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:24,720
lack of imagination. And what drove them to such a point? Regarding the atomic bomb comment,

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Moris says that the minister of Phanglestick is referring to clearly didn't really mean this.

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Phanglestick says that Moris wants to use atomic bombs on Iran. This is roughly the three hour mark.

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Moris says that Iran wants to destroy Israel. Phanglestand says that Iran has sent mixed messages.

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Benel says Iran supports Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis. He implies they're not sending

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01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,960
mixed messages. They make their opposition to Israel's existence clear. Phanglestand says that

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he supports the Houthis because they're trying to stop the genocide impossible. Is there a genocide

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01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,360
happening in Gaza? Rabani says it's his personal opinion that Israel is indeed engaged in genocidal

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01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:50,800
assault. But as a matter of law, this is a question for the ICJ, the International Court of Justice.

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While the ICJ has not yet found Israel guilty of genocide, it is also not yet found of the

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01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:57,040
innocent. He says the fact the ICJ is proceeding at all with the case against Israel brought by

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01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:00,560
South Africa instead of dismissing it as frivolous is enormously meaningful. It doesn't clarify

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that genocide is killing a people holy or in part for which the death of 30,000 is sufficient,

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combined with an intent to do so. And he believes that Israel does have the intent to do so.

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But he says if there were another plausible reason for why so many people are being killed,

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then it would not qualify as genocide. Moris asks if Hamas using people as human

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shields during a just war does not count as a plausible reason for high civilian casualties.

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Rabani says they should focus on establishing intent and recommends looking through South Africa's

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case at the ICJ, which attempts to establish intent by quoting numerous public officials in Israel.

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Benel disputes Rabani saying that it's enormously meaningful the ICJ hasn't dismissed the case as

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01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:29,920
being frivolous because the standard for plausibility is ultimately very low, lower than a basic criminal

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conviction or even getting an indictment. Moreover, he believes many of the quotes in the South African

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01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,560
case are low quality and misrepresent the figures being quoted. He reads an example quote from the

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01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,600
Israeli President Herzog saying it's an entire nation out there that is responsible. It's not true

1439
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,720
this rhetoric about civilians not being aware not being involved. This quote is meant to suggest that

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01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,920
Israel disregards the distinction between civilians and militants. But Benel then pulls up the source

1441
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:51,520
of this quote and reads further. What a way I can't what a loser I was to actually read the actual

1442
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:56,960
complaint and then to actually fact that complaint by South Africa is a joke, bro. All the crazy

1443
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:01,200
stupid shit that I cry about on stream about like people doing bad research and people taking

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01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,000
things out of context or whatever stupid shit I complain about like that happens in the real

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01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:08,400
world. So it's crazy how low quality the average anything is out there. I don't even know what

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01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,000
the fuck. I don't know what the fuck is happening anymore on anything, bro. Jesus. But that the

1447
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:16,640
complaint by South Africa has so many of these quotes that are like pretty clearly not saying

1448
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,560
what they are trying to say they're saying, but whatever continues in that article by saying that

1449
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:23,360
the people should have risen up against a Hamas regime. But then he says in acknowledges that many

1450
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:26,320
cousins are innocent and have nothing to do with Hamas, but though many others are aware of Hamas

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01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,840
activity or even participating and just pretending to be innocent. Whether or not what Herzog is

1452
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,640
saying is true, he clearly isn't trying to persuade people that there is no distinction between

1453
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:36,000
civilians and militants. Benel implies that other quotes used in the case are similarly misleading.

1454
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,720
Moriss points out that the court has yet to make any actual decision and predicts that it will

1455
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:42,000
eventually determine the situation does not rise to the level of genocide. Funkel's name is Benel

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01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,880
saying that plausibility is not a high bar. He says that a swimmer who competes in the Olympics

1457
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,760
might not win any medals, but it's still meaningful that they were able to qualify as not just anyone

1458
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:50,800
can qualify for the Olympics. But now says this characterization is untrue and that plausibility

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01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:53,680
is not difficult to meet in law. If the court has not decided that South Africa's allegations are

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01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,640
well-founded, he says Funkel's known as overstating the strength of the case against Israel and that

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genocide is a very difficult thing to prove because you must satisfy the goal of Specialis,

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[BLANK_AUDIO]

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for special intent.

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01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:02,100
Phanclostech incorrectly says the term

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banalmentir is mens rea, Latin for guilty mind,

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which is a much more general term used

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when talking about intent in criminal trials.

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We could fairly say that a genocide determination

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requires a state of mind or intent,

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and then we could loosely call that mens rea

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because this is a general term for state of mind

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determinations, but the more specific,

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more correct term here is no less speciality.

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01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:18,160
- There's also like general intent

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versus specific intent versus a highly special intent.

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Somebody in chat a while ago said that in law,

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they're trying to get away from using the terms

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specific intent versus general intent.

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01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:28,960
I don't remember these exactly,

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but it's like, I think general intent is like,

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you have the intent to do the action.

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01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:34,240
Specific intent is you have an intent on the outcome.

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01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:37,120
So like a manslaughter charge will require you

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01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:39,600
to be like having driven a car, right?

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01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:41,600
And you intended to drive the car

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and maybe you drove drunk or something like that.

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Like that's like the general intent.

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But you would get like murder if you intended

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to kill somebody by running them over.

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That's a more, that's a specific intent

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versus a general intent is you're out

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of intent around the outcome.

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And then Dola Speciales is a highly special intent

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around the outcome, which is that of the eradication

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01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:02,040
of a group of people and whole other part.

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But you're trying to eradicate a group of people.

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You couldn't explain the killings

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by military action or something else.

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01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:09,360
It's done by this very specific

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and very special intent just to get rid of a group of people.

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- I don't know why Fanklesnacht tried

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01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:14,520
to correct Benel incorrectly.

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01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:15,360
Benel got it right.

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01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:16,200
Benel references another quote

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01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:17,880
from the South Africa ICJ case against Israel.

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01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:18,880
It's of a minister saying they must

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01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,560
have deal a blow that has not been seen in 50 years

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01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:21,400
and take down Gaza.

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He asks if it would be genocidal rhetoric

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01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,720
for Ukrainians to say their goal is to take down Russia.

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01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:25,840
The Fanklesnacht says it wasn't limited

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01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:27,640
to defeating the military as an Israeli defense minister

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01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:29,680
once said that they would prevent any food, water, fuel,

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01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:30,920
or electricity from entering Gaza.

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Morris points out that statement was made directly

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01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:33,880
after October 7th and that after 1200

1517
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:35,120
of your citizens are murdered as they were,

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01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:36,520
politicians might say some extreme things,

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01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:38,160
but Israelis did not actually take this action.

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01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:39,560
It was angry words, not policy.

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01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,480
Israel did let in water, food, gas, and so on.

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01:41:41,480 --> 01:41:43,040
Rabani says that Morris isn't as accepting

1523
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:44,560
of Palestinians making extreme statements

1524
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:45,720
after tragedies that affect them,

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01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:47,040
not extending the same understanding

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01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:48,680
that he requests for Israeli politicians.

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01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:50,040
Morris says that's a fair point.

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01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:50,960
Is a host and moderator free?

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01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,520
- That's not a, well, I actually can't speak

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for Fanklesnacht, maybe for Fanklesnacht it is.

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01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:56,160
It's not for me though, I'm,

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01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:00,280
if there's anything you can say about me,

1533
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:01,520
it is that I am fair.

1534
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:03,600
No, but I mean, I think I'm sympathetic towards people

1535
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:05,120
making all sorts of unhinged statements

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01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:06,660
if they're getting blown up.

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Palestinian or Israeli, but...

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01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:12,520
- Man asks when Israel and Palestine have been closest

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to peace since the beginning of the conflict.

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Morris says the answer is likely in 2000

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at the Camp David Summit,

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where Israeli Prime Minister Ihuad Perov

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and U.S. President Clinton proposed a two-state settlement

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to the Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat.

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01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:21,680
He says this was the best deal

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01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:22,760
they were ever going to get from Israel,

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and Arafat said no.

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Morris says his opinion is that Arafat was psychologically

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incapable of signing a deal

1550
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:27,840
and acceptance of a Jewish state

1551
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:29,720
that he ultimately just could not bring himself to do it.

1552
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:30,560
- Wow.

1553
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:31,400
- Robani disputes what Morris says about Arafat,

1554
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:33,600
claiming that Arafat formally recognized Israel in 1993

1555
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:34,840
and that what Israel offered at Camp David

1556
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:35,880
was simply insufficient.

1557
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:37,120
Robani says the closest the two.

1558
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:38,640
- So what would that Iran school attack count

1559
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:40,040
as they intended to kill?

1560
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:41,400
Just not clearly they got the,

1561
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:42,920
or just not they got the wrong target?

1562
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:43,880
- Oh, that's actually a good question.

1563
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:45,840
I don't know if there'd be a criminal law thing for,

1564
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,040
or I don't know how the ICC would evaluate that,

1565
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:51,620
but I imagine the specific intent must be to kill.

1566
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:55,560
- Oh, fuck, there's a thing in, oh my God.

1567
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:58,240
What do you say this that is in law school?

1568
01:42:58,240 --> 01:42:59,560
I don't actually know how you deal with this.

1569
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,280
I know there's something called transferred intent though.

1570
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,640
We're like, let's say I go to shoot somebody

1571
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,280
together I want to kill them, but then I miss them,

1572
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:07,080
but then the bullet goes through

1573
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:08,840
and it hits somebody behind them and it kills them.

1574
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:11,520
You can talk about there's something called transferred intent,

1575
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:12,360
but.

1576
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:16,960
- Besides came to peace was more likely after the young kipper.

1577
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:18,520
- But I mean like, regardless,

1578
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,240
those two actions would be quite different.

1579
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,480
And everybody would agree obviously, right?

1580
01:43:22,480 --> 01:43:25,360
If it came out that in the United States,

1581
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,240
you got leaks and they were like,

1582
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,080
we think the school is housing a whole bunch of terrorists

1583
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:30,800
and we're going to take these terrorists out.

1584
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:32,680
There might be 15, 20 students,

1585
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:33,800
but it's worth it blah, blah, blah.

1586
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,000
I was like, okay, versus they're like,

1587
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:41,560
Iranian school girls, fuck these kids.

1588
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:42,400
Take them out.

1589
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:44,160
That'd be like, somebody's got to die.

1590
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:45,200
You guys are crazy.

1591
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:48,000
That would, it would just be so many levels worse

1592
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:49,920
if that was the case, right?

1593
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:50,760
- Or.

1594
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:52,400
- And then President Saddam for making peace with Israel

1595
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,280
in such a way that seems to solve the conflict for Egypt,

1596
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:55,480
but not for the other Arab states.

1597
01:43:55,480 --> 01:43:57,160
Rabani says we should ask whether peace with Israel

1598
01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:58,400
is actually desirable at this point,

1599
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,080
if Israel is an irrational genocidal state

1600
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:01,400
that solves all problems with violence.

1601
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:02,680
He compares Israel with Nazi Germany,

1602
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:03,760
saying there could have been no peace

1603
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:04,920
with the fascist regimes in Europe,

1604
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:06,400
which instead had to be removed from power,

1605
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:07,640
but we couldn't just coexist with them.

1606
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:09,880
Likewise with countries in Southeast Asia in the late 1970s

1607
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:10,920
or with apartheid South Africa.

1608
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,360
He says Israel is also an apartheid state.

1609
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:14,400
Nevertheless, he says a two state settlement is feasible,

1610
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:15,920
but he's pessimistic because Israel harbors

1611
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:17,000
such distasteful elements.

1612
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:18,880
Benel says at the top of summit of the 2001 talks

1613
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:20,640
in Taba, Egypt, Israel was at its most willing

1614
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:21,480
to make concessions.

1615
01:44:21,480 --> 01:44:23,360
And so this period, very close to what Morris answered,

1616
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:25,120
was probably the closest the two sides came to peace.

1617
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,160
He says that Palestinians have been told by other Arab states

1618
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:28,720
that if they just continue engaging in violence,

1619
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:30,240
they will always eventually get more.

1620
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:31,760
And by this rationale, they should never make peace.

1621
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:32,720
They should never stop fighting.

1622
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:34,400
Because if you say no to the deal being offered now,

1623
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:35,560
you could get a better deal later.

1624
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:36,640
But they need to stop at some point

1625
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,320
because by now Israel isn't going anywhere.

1626
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,080
And most other Arab states have accepted that by now.

1627
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:41,360
It's only the Palestinians who haven't.

1628
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:42,920
Rabani again says the Palestinian leadership

1629
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:45,160
did formally accept Israel's existence in 1993,

1630
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:46,560
but now says they formally did in '93

1631
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:47,520
as part of the Oslo Accords,

1632
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:48,920
but then no lasting peace came from that.

1633
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:51,040
Vanilla means a more sincere acceptance internally

1634
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,680
among the beliefs and attitudes of leadership,

1635
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:54,080
not just the formal recognition they signed

1636
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:54,960
as part of an agreement.

1637
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:56,040
Morris says that both sides failed

1638
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:57,200
to fulfill the promises of Oslo.

1639
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:58,840
He also pushes back on Rabani's earlier comments,

1640
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:00,680
saying that it's nonsensical to call Israel.

1641
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,120
in apartheid regime, he says apartheid is a race-based distinction between segments of the

1642
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:06,560
same population, and in South Africa the black population had no rights or representation at all,

1643
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:10,240
whereas in Israel Arabs do have rights and representation. Moreover, Israel doesn't have any race-based

1644
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:13,520
rules or laws. Robani says none of those things are a requirement to call something apartheid.

1645
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,760
We never really get into talking about what does make something apartheid.

1646
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:18,800
Morris adds that he doesn't believe Israel is genocidal, and that any talk which implies the

1647
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,920
dismantling of Israel entirely, as Robani offered earlier, is counterproductive.

1648
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:25,760
Sunkleston says Israel was surprised after the 1973 Yom Kippur War, where many Israelis were

1649
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,960
killed, and there was a moment where Israelis feared this may be the end for the country.

1650
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:32,160
Morris disagrees because Israel had atomic weaponry by this point that could have been used as a

1651
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:36,080
last resort. Sunkleston says the 1982 Israeli Lebanon war was an attempt to destroy the PLO in

1652
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:39,360
southern Lebanon, because Israel perceived them as being too moderate. He says that at Camp David,

1653
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:43,040
according to Shlomo Benamee's book Prophets Without Honor, Israel wanted to relinquish 92%

1654
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:46,560
of the West Bank, maintaining 8% as well as large parts of Jerusalem, but Israel would not accept

1655
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,520
responsibility for refugees nor a right of return. Benamee thought this was reasonable,

1656
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:52,320
but Sunkleston disagrees because according to international law, they should have had to give

1657
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,040
up everything. Morris says that Arabat would have just said no to all negotiations.

1658
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:58,160
Sunkleston says that Arafat didn't simply say no to everything. He insisted on international

1659
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:01,520
legitimacy, and following UN resolutions in international law. Israel never agreed to this,

1660
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,640
so he never said yes. Sunkleston says Israelis simply don't believe in international law.

1661
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:07,600
Morris kind of agrees, saying that international law has not been relevant to previous conflicts,

1662
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:10,640
and adherence to international law is not what's going to solve the Israeli Palestine conflict.

1663
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:14,160
Sunkleston asks what the alternative is, if not international law, then what are we adhering to?

1664
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:17,040
Morris makes a suggestion here, which is that Gaza should be given more land from the Sinai

1665
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,440
desert. But either way, he says that international law isn't really relevant.

1666
01:46:19,440 --> 01:46:22,560
Benel says that historically, Israel has not negotiated within the bounds of UN resolutions.

1667
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:25,120
At the end of the day, it's going to be about what the two parties agree to. He also says there's

1668
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:28,000
a half million Israelis in the West Bank, and that expelling all of them would be unrealistic.

1669
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,160
Israel wouldn't agree to this no matter what international law says.

1670
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,800
Rabani says if he took over Benel's house, and there were no police, then he would have

1671
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:35,760
all power in negotiation, because the only way that you'd be getting back any part of the house

1672
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:40,640
is if he agrees to surrender it. Oh my god. That's such a bad example, because we do actually have

1673
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:44,400
a lot of issues. I wonder if I bring this up, do I? We actually do have issues in the United States

1674
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:49,200
with, um, squatters rights. That's like a, that's actually a real last thing that's really annoying

1675
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:53,280
for a lot of people to do it. That's actually a really bad example to bring up. By lateral negotiation

1676
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,400
without an overarching system, this means that each party has total veto power, because they

1677
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:59,520
could always just not agree. This is very likely to result in the continuation of the status quo.

1678
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,160
Mora says that Hamas has not formally recognized Israel in the way that,

1679
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:07,200
somebody said, can anyone answer? How do you establish intent? For what, for genocide?

1680
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:16,000
Um, I mean, you can establish it, I mean, based on statements that, um, people who are parties to

1681
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:23,040
the conflict make, you can establish it based on actions that people are taking. How the fuck did

1682
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:34,800
you guys even get in there? Stop! Um, is this correct? Yeah. Um, you could establish it. Um,

1683
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:40,560
I think those would be the big ones. The biggest thing that hurts an honest accounting of, um,

1684
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:45,920
trying to say that Israel is committing a genocide right now is, it's, it's really hard to call

1685
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:51,440
something a genocide when another explanation would like easily, um, suffice. Like right now,

1686
01:47:51,440 --> 01:47:55,040
regardless of if you feel like they're conducting the war well or not or whatever, like they do have

1687
01:47:55,040 --> 01:48:00,320
a valid military reason for why they would want to get rid of Hamas in the Gaza Strip. I guess a

1688
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:03,760
super valid reason. So it's hard. So now we have to look a little, we have to look a lot deeper

1689
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:06,880
now if we have a valid reason. And it's like, okay, well, do we feel like the number of deaths?

1690
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:11,440
Not really as much as people don't like that people die in war. It's not, we're not nowhere near

1691
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:17,920
such an obvious statement of, oh my God, like it must be, um, it must be a genocide. Not even close

1692
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:26,000
to the numbers required for that. Um, you could look at, um, I don't know, actually pass that when

1693
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:30,240
you have a valid reason, it makes it really, really hard. I think this was the, this has talked about

1694
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:38,080
a lot for the Bosnian stuff that, um, when the ICC was looking at it, you had, um, if you have a

1695
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:41,280
valid, like when you're starting to kill whole populations of people, there's not even like a good

1696
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:45,040
reason for it. You can't even like conceive of a good reason for it. It becomes very, very, very hard

1697
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:49,280
to justify that. But if you, uh, but if you have a valid military reason, it becomes very hard to

1698
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:56,560
say genocide. I think, I think if you wanted to make the strongest case, um, there is the crimes

1699
01:48:56,560 --> 01:49:01,840
related to the prevention of genocide, you might be able to get Israel on, or I don't know if it

1700
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:06,960
would be Israel or if it would be like Netanyahu and then other leaders, um, Ben Giver and Smoltrich

1701
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:12,640
have made statements that I think the statements are easily qualified as genocidal rhetoric.

1702
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:18,240
And you can argue that I believe, if not Israel, that Netanyahu has, uh, responsibility to

1703
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:23,680
quash those statements or to say something or do something about them. And to allow statements

1704
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:30,400
like that to be made, and then without any pushback is, um, genocidal rhetoric, I think as part of the,

1705
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:34,400
I think in the ICC for the room statute, I think you can get in trouble for, um, taking part in

1706
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:38,880
genocidal rhetoric, even if there's not a genocide necessarily going on.

1707
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:45,440
Ani repeatedly suggests. He says that in this, Hamas represents the majority of Gazans. He says the

1708
01:49:45,440 --> 01:49:49,120
fact Arafat, who died in 2004, may have once signed a recognition of Israel is effectively

1709
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:52,320
meaningless, if he was even sincere about it himself. Robani questions whether it's fair to

1710
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:55,120
demand the Palestinians do something, but then call it meaningless when they do the thing that

1711
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:58,320
you demanded. Morris says that Israel would like a Palestinian leader like Sadat, the Egyptian

1712
01:49:58,320 --> 01:49:59,920
president who made peace with Israel in 1970.

1713
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,100
Somebody who's willing to come to the table and agree to terms.

1714
01:50:02,100 --> 01:50:04,200
Robani comments that they assassinated Sadat for good reason.

1715
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:07,400
So that was assassinated in 1981 by radical Islamist and Egypt who were angry

1716
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:08,400
that he made peace with Israel.

1717
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:08,900
I thought that was...

1718
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:10,800
I don't think this is true.

1719
01:50:11,300 --> 01:50:14,200
I know that a lot of people like to bring it up, but I don't think he was...

1720
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,900
I would have to go back and read, but I think it's a common misconception

1721
01:50:17,900 --> 01:50:20,500
that they killed Sadat because he signed peace with Israel.

1722
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:22,400
I think it's a little bit more finer than that.

1723
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:25,400
I think it was because they viewed Egypt as selling out to the West

1724
01:50:25,700 --> 01:50:27,300
because the United States was getting a lot of money

1725
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:29,600
due to that peace of your own with Israel.

1726
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,000
It's a little bit of a distinction about it, but I think this is meaningfully different.

1727
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,000
It's a pretty weird comment, but they'll catch us at two, but they just move on.

1728
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:39,000
Bottom line is that Israel would like a Palestinian Sadat.

1729
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:40,000
It wants the Palestinians.

1730
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,000
It's a really worst case scenario.

1731
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:45,000
Okay, let me just say, because they shot Sadat, but then the Israeli...

1732
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:50,000
It's a worst case scenario because he doesn't like any kind of peace with Israel.

1733
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,000
He wants Israel to be gone completely.

1734
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:53,000
So that would be Sadat.

1735
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:56,000
Somebody who makes negotiations or agreements with Israel that keeps Israel there as a state,

1736
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,000
especially a Jewish state, is unacceptable to him.

1737
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,000
He's one for good reason.

1738
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:04,000
Morris reiterates that what Israelis want is a change in psyche among Palestinian leadership.

1739
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,000
They need somebody who's willing to accept coexistence.

1740
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,000
Otherwise there will never be a Palestinian state.

1741
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,000
Chantelistek says that in Morris's 2009 book, One State Two States,

1742
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:13,000
Morris wrote that Palestinian leadership once formally recognized Israel,

1743
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:16,000
but they don't truly accept it in their hearts, and viscerally they still oppose it.

1744
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,000
Moreover, even if in their hearts they did come to accept Israel,

1745
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,000
rationally they couldn't accept it, because this would essentially mean they've lost.

1746
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:25,000
That they originally had the whole of Palestine, and now they've been reduced to only this one part of it,

1747
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:26,000
and the Jews have won.

1748
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:27,000
They got their country.

1749
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,000
This one thinks that Morris thus moves the goalposts,

1750
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:32,000
and that in Morris's view, a two state solution is indeed impossible, on multiple levels.

1751
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:33,000
So maybe he should just open with that.

1752
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:36,000
Morris concedes it is impossible in his view, because Palestinian leadership is as he describes.

1753
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:39,000
That's why he thinks Palestinian leadership needs to change in psyche.

1754
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,000
Robani says that in the past some Palestinians believed they could start with a two state solution,

1755
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:44,000
and use that as a springboard toward more gains later.

1756
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:46,000
Arafat, however, did not believe that a springboard was possible.

1757
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:49,000
He believed that as soon as he signed an agreement, that was all the Palestinians were ever going to get.

1758
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:52,000
This is why he insisted on a high minimum threshold and cared a lot about the details,

1759
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:53,000
because he knew there would be no further-

1760
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:57,000
Arafat was never detail-oriented, but okay buddy.

1761
01:51:57,000 --> 01:51:58,000
Negotiations.

1762
01:51:58,000 --> 01:51:59,000
This is roughly the four hour mark.

1763
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:02,000
The host and moderator Friedman asks the participants to imagine warping into the future

1764
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,000
to find that a peaceful two state settlement has been achieved.

1765
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,000
How would they guess that such a thing happened?

1766
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,000
Benaz says that fighting continues because both sides believe they'll get a better deal in the future

1767
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:10,000
if they keep fighting today.

1768
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:12,000
This may have been true for Palestinians in the past, but not anymore,

1769
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,000
whereas today it does seem true for Israel.

1770
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,000
Netanyahu was a problem because he sees opportunity in the Palestinian's violence.

1771
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:19,000
So as Benemorez suggested, the Palestinians need a leader like Sadat

1772
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,000
who's willing to confront Israel by demanding peace,

1773
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:23,000
unlike Hamas who confronts Israel with terror.

1774
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,000
He will only justify further conflict, which benefits Israel.

1775
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:28,000
He doesn't spell it out, but the implication of this answer is that if a two state settlement has been achieved,

1776
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:30,000
it's primarily due to a change in Palestinian leadership.

1777
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,000
Friedman suggests that now might be a good opportunity for change in the region,

1778
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:35,000
because it seems as though Netanyahu and Hamas both might be on their way out soon.

1779
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:37,000
No, this was reported in early 2024.

1780
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:39,000
Netanyahu says it's especially challenging on the Palestinian side

1781
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,000
because Hamas enjoys widespread support by Palestinians.

1782
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,000
He says international pressure on Israel also tends to demand too much

1783
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:46,000
by insisting on both the 1967 borders and an unlimited right of return,

1784
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,000
which would be destructive for Israelis.

1785
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:51,000
Rabani says Benel is too dismissive of international law and UN resolutions,

1786
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:53,000
questioning if he views negotiations as operating by the law of the jungle,

1787
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,000
or if there are any standards he hasn't demanded.

1788
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:59,000
Benel begins to answer by saying that the UN Security Council Resolution 242 was non-binding,

1789
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:02,000
because the language was kept intentionally vague so as to not commit the parties to action.

1790
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:05,000
Samplesfunk seems to disagree and implies that Benel doesn't understand how the UN works.

1791
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:08,000
Rabani says every UN Security Council resolution is binding by definition.

1792
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:09,000
It says so in the UN Charter.

1793
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:14,000
Fenkelstong says that under international law, you cannot acquire territory by war.

1794
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,000
Simple as, Benel says the reason that 242 was non-binding

1795
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:20,000
isn't because it was a non-binding type of resolution, but because it used a non-binding language.

1796
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:22,000
Moreover, the resolution does not mention creating a Palestinian state.

1797
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:25,000
He implies that if Israel were to relinquish Gaza and the West Bank,

1798
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,000
it would be to Egypt and Jordan respectively.

1799
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:30,000
More is agrees, saying that these resolutions have not really brought Palestinians closer to a state.

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01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,000
Fenkelstong says that's why October 7th happened.

1801
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:35,000
Rabani questions Benel saying both that all Palestinians do is engage in violence,

1802
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:38,000
but earlier saying that they're expecting somebody to come save them from the outside, like the UN.

1803
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:40,000
Benel says he's referring to how Palestinians fight,

1804
01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:42,000
and then they say no with the Tava Summit or at Camp David.

1805
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:43,000
He doesn't think this is a contradiction.

1806
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:46,000
During this section, there's a lot of pointless yelling deliberately talking over each other.

1807
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:49,000
A number of points get moved on from without being satisfactorily addressed.

1808
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:51,000
The rolling stealth and walling talk context is rarely forced.

1809
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,000
It's like, and wrist the lights are rarely civilians.

1810
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:55,000
Some institutions are going to get explosive off of her.

1811
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:56,000
Fuck fast! Fuck fast!

1812
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:57,000
I'm just reading from the UN!

1813
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:58,000
I'm just reading from the UN!

1814
01:53:58,000 --> 01:53:59,000
I think you like the time!

1815
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:00,000
I think you got my point!

1816
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:03,000
Fenkelstong repeatedly complains that Benel talks fast and says that all of his knowledge comes from Wikipedia.

1817
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:04,000
It was rather pointless.

1818
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:07,000
Rabani says Israel has never formally recognized Palestinian national rights.

1819
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,000
More is says Israel has accepted the legitimacy of a Palestinian people,

1820
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:11,000
and has proposed forming a Palestinian state,

1821
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,000
but they just didn't want to give Palestinians all of Palestine.

1822
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:14,000
Fenkelstong says come on,

1823
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,000
"When have Palestinians ever demanded all of Israel?"

1824
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:20,000
More is says that organizations like the PLO can no longer say that openly, but Hamas does say it.

1825
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,000
Rabani once again asks if it's even possible to have peace with Israel,

1826
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:24,000
given that it's an irrational, genocidal apartheid state,

1827
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:27,000
implying that it's necessary to dismantle Israel, rather than accept living alongside it.

1828
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,000
Rabani acknowledges that Arab states like Egypt now accept living alongside Israel,

1829
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:32,000
but this doesn't address the question of the Palestinian people.

1830
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:34,000
He also suggests that Israel made peace with Egypt,

1831
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:37,000
because by doing so, they removed the most powerful Arab state from the equation,

1832
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:38,000
thus less than any pressure on themselves.

1833
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:40,000
I guess that sounds true, though I'm not sure what point it serves.

1834
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:42,000
Fenkelsticks says that when Egypt made peace with Israel,

1835
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:43,000
their demand was international law.

1836
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:47,000
Morris disagrees, saying that neither side references international law in these negotiations or agreements.

1837
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:50,000
Fenkelsticks says that Israel dismantled settlements to give back to the Sinai, and Morris agrees,

1838
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:51,000
but they disagree about why.

1839
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:53,000
Fenkelsticks says because it was the law.

1840
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:56,000
Morris says no, it's because each side wanted things, and that was one of Egypt's demands,

1841
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:58,000
which Israel decided to grant as a condition for peace,

1842
01:54:58,000 --> 01:54:59,000
but international law really had nothing to do with it.

1843
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:00,000
Treatment asks,

1844
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,280
each participant what if anything gives them hope. Seemingly desperate to finish the debate on a

1845
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:06,240
positive note of some kind. Moris says that generally speaking people don't like war,

1846
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:10,080
air bill they have an impetus to see where somebody gave me the streamable with freedmen for the hope

1847
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:14,560
thing. That simple reality of human nature gives him hope that people in the future will find it.

1848
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:18,640
Freedmen asks if Moris thinks that people in Gaza and Israel fundamentally hate war. Moris says yes.

1849
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:22,320
Finkleston says there is no hope. He says Israel needs to restore its deterrence capability and that

1850
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:25,520
it's going to destroy Gaza and then move on to Hezbollah. October 7th showed that they're not

1851
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,400
invulnerable so now they need to destroy their enemies. He says he wishes there could have been

1852
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:31,520
a ceasefire and the end of the illegal blockade of Gaza. Moris agrees that in the short term the

1853
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:34,720
situation is bleak but he says the Israeli blockade of Gaza was a justified response to

1854
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:38,400
people shooting rockets at Israel from Gaza for the last 20 years. Benel asks Finkleston if he

1855
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,760
supports the Houthis shooting random ships in the Red Sea which is a violation of international law.

1856
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:44,480
Finkleston answers that he does support this. Paul and the Houthis courageous in saying that

1857
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,760
he's very happy they're helping the Palestinians. Moris says the Yemen is near the price and that

1858
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,880
there are thousands of deaths by starvation in Yemen but not in Palestine. Rabani says the

1859
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:53,920
situation is bleak but he's given hope by the fact that Palestinians have never surrendered,

1860
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:57,280
finding their resolve inspiring. Benel asks Rabani if he believes the Palestinians should

1861
01:55:57,280 --> 01:56:00,720
have a right to resettle the millions of people who today identify as Palestinian refugees.

1862
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:04,080
Rabani says that many Palestinians would probably not even want to return and live among Israelis.

1863
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:07,040
He brings up that in some previous conversation when he was doing research about Benel prior to

1864
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:10,320
this debate he heard Benel say that he doesn't think Jim Crow laws in the US were apartheid.

1865
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:13,200
Benel says there's a euphemism treadmill that results in a lot of these terms being blurred

1866
01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:16,640
together and overused and that Jim Crow laws seem different from apartheid because apartheid

1867
01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:20,640
was a top-down system of racial domination whereas Jim Crow laws were a decentralized web of state

1868
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:23,840
and local restrictions that were later overruled by the federal government. Rabani doesn't argue

1869
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:26,880
this point. They again address the question of how many of the civilian deaths on October 7th

1870
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:31,040
can be blamed on Hamas. With Benel asking Rabani whether he thinks it was closer to 51% or 99%

1871
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:34,000
Rabani again declines to be any more specific than saying it was most. Morris says that it

1872
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:37,040
should be easy without giving a specific number to just say that the overwhelming majority were

1873
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:40,640
killed by Arab gunmen with maybe a small number perhaps being killed by accidents or by crossfires.

1874
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:43,760
Frankly sticks out that that's not the kind of statement a historian would make. Morris agrees.

1875
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:48,400
Oh my god. This really wasn't the most interesting or the most down-to-brass tax

1876
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:52,880
debate on Israel Palestine that one could watch. It wasn't that explosive or accusatory either

1877
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:56,400
aside from Finkelstone accusing Benel of being stupid and stuff. I mean sometimes what you might

1878
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:59,600
expect in an Israel Palestine debate is that one side is accusing the other of being a horrible

1879
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:03,040
genocidal monster and then the other side you know they're accusing them of being anti-Semites

1880
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:07,200
and holding out sympathy for terrorism. On the whole it was a lot more civil than it could have been.

1881
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:11,280
So there's that but considering the what we're given to understand is the depth of the knowledge

1882
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,960
available by the participants we don't really get into that much. It's not really as interesting

1883
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:18,960
as it could have been and I think that to blame is first of all partially it's that Friedman's

1884
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:22,960
questions were not very good. They were kind of too broad to surface level. He touches on a very

1885
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:26,320
broad topic. We give our statements and then we just move on to the next very broad topic so

1886
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:29,440
there's not a lot that's explored as much as it could have been even though it's a really long

1887
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:33,040
debate. We kind of just skim over a lot of different things and then a bunch of the blame also has

1888
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:36,560
to go to Uncle Stan who just doesn't allow the argument to proceed at certain junctures. He just

1889
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:40,400
starts shouting and calling Benel stupid and then that's kind of the end of that same conversation

1890
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:44,160
that we both we carriage return back to the I don't know it's the way that he acted in particular

1891
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:47,920
was really unproductive. It would have been more interesting if either Morris or Benel were to sit

1892
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:51,520
down with Rabani because Rabani I mean Rabani says some kind of crazy sounding stuff to be honest

1893
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:54,640
but in a meta sense like in terms of his conduct he seems to be a more reasonable participant

1894
01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:58,480
than Uncle Stan. And then overall I mean in the big picture I've really not got to the bottom

1895
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:02,480
of why anybody says that this was a horrible showing by Benel that Benel didn't look good

1896
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:06,160
that Benel got schooled by Uncle Stan. There's no real I don't know what point we think he

1897
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:09,200
screwed up or got a lot wrong or looked really bad. I mean it's not like his performance was

1898
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,960
especially impressive but he doesn't get anything major wrong and he tries earnestly to engage with

1899
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:16,560
what people are saying and to answer the questions earnestly I know I think he did fine. Do you think

1900
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:20,640
there was anything noteworthy or significant or interesting from the debate that I have unfairly

1901
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:23,760
not included like was there anything that you feel like I missed? If so please let me know. I'm

1902
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,880
generally pretty responsive to YouTube comments. I think the worst part of the debate is right

1903
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:30,880
near the beginning where Norm Funkldong says that the reason he speaks so slowly is because he

1904
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:37,280
attached value to every word I say. Like it feels almost insulting how slowly this person talks and

1905
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:51,200
yeah this is a digital that's my complaint. I think that at some point you need to be aware of I don't

1906
01:58:51,200 --> 01:59:01,200
know if I would say speech impediment but like Finkelstein talks insultingly slow given especially

1907
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:09,840
given how much of his speech is wasted on petty insults. If you want to you know let a couple fly

1908
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:16,400
I'm all for that that's based but not when you're speaking you know 15 words per minute that's

1909
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:25,520
ridiculous you got to be you need to be way way way quicker with your speech if that's if that's

1910
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:36,320
the fucking speed we're moving on motherfucker Jesus. If I try to put sheep down here but I can't

1911
01:59:36,320 --> 01:59:45,600
jump am I gonna want to kill myself? Does that matter? I don't need to jump now we're good.

1912
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:50,320
How actually in practice unimportant so much of what he says ends up being like I am really

1913
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:53,040
not impressed with this guy I don't know who's holding him up as though an authority on the

1914
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:57,440
propolisine side there has to be better propolisine people than this. No it's already the record well

1915
01:59:57,440 --> 02:00:01,920
no there's not. The UN was not attempting to arbitrate

1916
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,780
trade or adjudicate rights and wrongs.

1917
02:00:02,780 --> 02:00:05,720
It was confronting a very practical problem.

1918
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:06,800
- I'm currently part way through.

1919
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:08,680
I'm doing kind of a broader look,

1920
02:00:08,680 --> 02:00:10,040
kind of a broader, I don't know what you'd call it,

1921
02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:11,560
like a research initiative to learn more

1922
02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:13,560
about Mr. Burrell as an internet figure.

1923
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:15,760
So I'll probably do kind of an overview of that,

1924
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:18,400
of kind of my perspective about him as like a commentator

1925
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:19,800
at some point, but it seems appropriate

1926
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:21,000
to compartmentalize this part.

1927
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:22,280
You know, have this be its own thing,

1928
02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:24,880
but yeah, I'm going to re-approach this at some point.

1929
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:29,000
- I'm going to write this.

1930
02:00:30,640 --> 02:00:31,480
- Whatever.

1931
02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:53,160
What is this?

1932
02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:54,720
What do I have this open?

1933
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:56,560
- I don't really have much, I'm going to be-

1934
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:59,640
- Jack Saint, the cost of basic principles.

1935
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:00,480
What's this about?

1936
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:02,760
Northern, oh God.

1937
02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:06,360
We'll see.

1938
02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:08,200
- Make it Hassan Piker to let me hit.

1939
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:10,680
As you may know, I previously ran a three part series

1940
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:12,680
trying to get one Dominic Fike to let me hit.

1941
02:01:12,680 --> 02:01:14,120
It's come to my attention that Dominic Fike

1942
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:15,280
is currently in a relationship.

1943
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:17,520
As such, I'm moving him to the reserves of my roster

1944
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:19,760
and focusing my attention on Hassan Piker.

1945
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:20,760
Here's my elevator pitch.

1946
02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:22,440
I'm a proud member of the proletariat.

1947
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:24,520
I've actually participated in a labor strike

1948
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:26,200
in the sense that I am currently unemployed.

1949
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:28,240
I can do the middle splits and I have a thing

1950
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:30,440
for older guys that dress like Mao Zedong

1951
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:32,560
and make questionable comments about 9/11.

1952
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:36,920
- Older guys, what happened?

1953
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:39,360
- Bro, I'm so 35, it's crazy.

1954
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:40,400
- Now, I know that you're not a stranger

1955
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:42,520
to a Fox News headline, so I just went ahead and-

1956
02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:45,560
- Wait, oh, he is.

1957
02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:48,280
I keep forgetting, 'cause we mean about his age so much

1958
02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:51,720
and because he genuinely attacks me from my age so much,

1959
02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:53,720
that I'm not even two years older than him.

1960
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:54,800
- What the fuck?

1961
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:56,200
- Okay.

1962
02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:58,600
- Generated one, so you could kind of envision what this-

1963
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:00,920
- D.S.A. Jihad is a soundpiker bangs internet girl

1964
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:04,040
following horny police screams America upon climb.

1965
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:06,480
She used the Fox News thumbnail.

1966
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:09,000
- No, just wanted to flag that this is the actual headshot

1967
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:11,440
that Fox News has been using for you as of late.

1968
02:02:11,440 --> 02:02:13,480
And lastly, this is a photo that I took recently

1969
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:15,720
that I looked really skinny in just so you could review that.

1970
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:17,680
- I'd like to close out this presentation with a quote

1971
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:18,520
by Karl Marx.

1972
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:20,400
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world.

1973
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:22,040
The point, however, is to change it.

1974
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:23,280
One way to do that is to sleep

1975
02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:25,120
with a random 20-year-old in Austin, Texas,

1976
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:27,280
after she publicly shoots her shot with you on the internet."

1977
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:29,560
And that's, of course, from Dost Copy Tao.

1978
02:02:29,560 --> 02:02:33,460
(singing in foreign language)

1979
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:37,440
- Why am I watching it?

1980
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:38,280
Why did you add?

1981
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:39,200
Why am I watching it?

1982
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:40,120
- This is day one.

1983
02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:41,400
- This onk still got it?

1984
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:43,280
I'm honored for the proposition.

1985
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:45,720
I feel like onk still got it, right?

1986
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:47,600
- Make it Hassan Piker to let me hit.

1987
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:48,440
As you may know-

1988
02:02:48,440 --> 02:02:49,400
- How long ago did he watch this?

1989
02:02:49,400 --> 02:02:50,240
Oh, my God.

1990
02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:51,400
Those are Halloween in the background,

1991
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:52,240
so maybe recently.

1992
02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:53,140
Okay, Jesus.

1993
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:55,520
- Oh, my God.

1994
02:02:55,520 --> 02:02:56,520
- We even have this phenomenon

1995
02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:57,360
in the red pill.

1996
02:02:57,360 --> 02:02:58,200
They call it red pill rage.

1997
02:02:58,200 --> 02:02:59,440
And when you discover the truth or whatever,

1998
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:00,280
you get angry.

1999
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:02,160
And I could say that there's been a period in my life

2000
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:03,640
where there's been a negative resentment

2001
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:05,280
towards living two to the past experiences.

2002
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:06,120
I can't do it.

2003
02:03:06,120 --> 02:03:07,520
So what I just want to say is when you go through that face

2004
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:09,120
and you try to let your men about how to live lives,

2005
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:10,760
like, bro, a lot of things got to heal,

2006
02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:11,720
whatever they got going on,

2007
02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:13,240
whether they're so angry, resentful.

2008
02:03:13,240 --> 02:03:14,400
- When you told me why you were breaking up with me,

2009
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:15,560
you told all your little creep lives,

2010
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:16,560
I didn't really care for the butt out.

2011
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:17,400
Let's forget them all.

2012
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:18,240
- When it's not your partner,

2013
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:25,240
I'm no longer priority, like, wow, we're done, you're dead.

2014
02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:27,840
- Yeah, but, like, I'm pregnant, we need to figure it out.

2015
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:29,480
- I don't care, that's your responsibility.

2016
02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:32,320
- Okay, so I make it a solemn vow.

2017
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:34,200
A vow, y'all ain't asked me for,

2018
02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:35,920
but a vow I feel I must make.

2019
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:40,040
This is my last video on Abba Knocking Up Gals, okay?

2020
02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:43,440
Listen, once okay, twice are trice.

2021
02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:44,560
What the (beep) are you on?

2022
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:46,000
I can't keep up with this, okay?

2023
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:47,200
I have to tap out now,

2024
02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:49,440
'cause if I don't stop, they'll never be no lying.

2025
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:52,320
I have to exercise the kind of restraint Abba refused to.

2026
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:55,840
Listen, this is the third, y'all.

2027
02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:59,640
We done talked about Libby, we done talked about Kiki,

2028
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:02,160
and now I think we had a talk about Stephanie,

2029
02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:03,040
is it Stephanie?

2030
02:04:03,040 --> 02:04:04,400
- You call it Stephanie?

2031
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:06,400
I call it Stephanie.

2032
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:09,200
I don't open doors for the holes, no, no, no.

2033
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:11,680
- I feel like I'm so deep in the upside down

2034
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:13,640
with Abba and these gals, I'm like, Lord God.

2035
02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:16,320
The prevailing charges against Abba is that

2036
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:20,560
fraud in terms of public perception.

2037
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:22,440
The real narrative, but the real reason

2038
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:24,680
why the internet cares and all that stuff is that,

2039
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:26,400
what these women are exposing about Abba

2040
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:28,320
and how Abba's moving carries on,

2041
02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:30,200
exposes a hypocrisy in Abba,

2042
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:32,160
because Abba spends a lot of his time

2043
02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:34,720
and a lot of their content is devoted to rightfully

2044
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:37,360
kicking red bill (beep) like fresh and fit them back in

2045
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:39,880
whole time, you're moving a lot like fresh and fit them.

2046
02:04:39,880 --> 02:04:41,600
So that's hypocrisy, right?

2047
02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:43,720
Like hypocrisy is, I think the number one thing

2048
02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:44,960
that people are dressing.

2049
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:47,280
The number one thing the women themselves are dressing

2050
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:49,720
is that they don't feel like he's obtaining true consent

2051
02:04:49,720 --> 02:04:51,720
because he is getting consent to sleep with them

2052
02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:54,760
and consent to have unprotected sex with them by lying.

2053
02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:56,680
By lying, deceiving them and telling them

2054
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:59,400
that they're in exclusive relationships, he's infertile,

2055
02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:00,240
he's been tested.

2056
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,840
Did all these different things that he is saying in order to get them to have sex with them

2057
02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:09,760
So he's not receiving their true consent and I see a lot of especially male commentators like not only dismiss this

2058
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:12,320
But get up and arms that these women are saying it like oh

2059
02:05:15,120 --> 02:05:21,120
First of all difference by jurisdiction would buy fraud is considered to be or whether or not he's been recognized varies by jurisdiction

2060
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:25,840
Whether or not as a criminal or civil offense also varies. They are all these different legal minutiae to it

2061
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:32,320
But it is definitely a thing. It is not like outlandish. They are not coming up with the idea that this could be by fraud

2062
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:36,080
Depending on who you ask what jurisdiction you in and what people's perception of it is, but oh

2063
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:40,000
Well, hello

2064
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:42,480
Hello

2065
02:05:45,520 --> 02:05:47,520
Did you have anything to say are you just hanging out?

2066
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:54,320
Just hanging out with the gut board in chat because everyone's disconnected and there's no one in there. Oh, I was kind of lonely

2067
02:05:55,440 --> 02:06:01,760
Ultimately kiki is bringing that to the discourse and we're gonna get to talking about staff the third gal to come tell a story

2068
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:06,720
She's not alleging that that happened to us. She is arguing more so on behalf of kiki

2069
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:10,720
All this really boils down to whether it's the hypocrisy to the audience fraud to the gals

2070
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:14,000
All the next things we want to talk about is dishonesty because the big fundamental thing

2071
02:06:14,080 --> 02:06:19,040
Is that not only is abba seem to be knocking up everybody and they mutter and handling it poorly

2072
02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:25,680
He telling them he's infertile and can't knock them up so he can make sure you have his condomless sex at his big age

2073
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:32,320
I just cannot understand this. I don't know what you can say to make me understand this

2074
02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:34,880
like

2075
02:06:34,880 --> 02:06:38,320
How are you not so worried? They're just knocking everybody up

2076
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:43,120
That's just I just don't understand

2077
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:52,240
I don't understand and lord kiki was exposing to audios uh abba talking about all the times

2078
02:06:52,240 --> 02:06:56,800
He had chlamydia and how when he is finally a chlamydia. He's be excited because like least it is

2079
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,720
I remember I remember the second time I caught chlamydia

2080
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:04,000
I had these weird symptoms and I was terrified because there wasn't anything like chlamydia

2081
02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:08,080
Simpson's I was I was like oh fuck and I go into all the time

2082
02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:10,880
I remember I remember the second time I caught chlamydia

2083
02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:14,880
I had these weird symptoms and I was terrified because there wasn't anything like chlamydia Simpson's I was

2084
02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:16,400
I was like oh fuck

2085
02:07:16,400 --> 02:07:19,760
And I go into the doctor's office and he's like yeah, it looks here

2086
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:24,720
So I get tested and in my head. I'm like, oh man. I did anal with this girl

2087
02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:26,640
Fuck

2088
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:30,080
And the doctor was bad after results. He's like you got chlamydia and I went nice

2089
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:33,360
Sure

2090
02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:39,920
The doctor looked at me like such a degenerate, but in my head. I'm like the guy got eight

2091
02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:41,840
Wait, how the fuck did I not remember this conversation?

2092
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:44,800
Like man it is good playing master locked in

2093
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:51,120
I just I hate that like you for me says we're like wait, you know why abba stopped coming around, right?

2094
02:07:53,120 --> 02:07:57,280
Um, well, I don't think you stop coming, but yeah, he's not here anymore. Good one

2095
02:07:57,520 --> 02:08:00,080
Um, he stopped him around because I started my five-inch shit

2096
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:03,280
I was just doing politics like he came around for all of like the crazy

2097
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:06,240
He was here for the red pill arc. He was here for a lot of the crazy drama shit

2098
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:12,000
For in alicia and for lav the black the black issues arc, but it was like the crazy

2099
02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:15,280
Stuff like that and then once I started doing just like politics full-time

2100
02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:18,400
Um, he just didn't have the same interest and then he stopped showing up basically

2101
02:08:18,560 --> 02:08:20,560
But then when the whole lawsuit stopped dropped he's like, yeah

2102
02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:23,680
I had to diss myself in destiny because I realized his lifestyle was too immoral

2103
02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:27,520
And that's why I started creating just like motherfucker. No, it's because you thought my content got boring because I was doing politics

2104
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:31,440
Whatever

2105
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:32,720
My disappointment

2106
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:38,720
Is immeasurable and my day is ruined. We've covered the previous charges with the first gal Libby. That was his girlfriend

2107
02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:42,080
She got pregnant. She was going back and forth about whether or not she wanted to have an abortion

2108
02:08:42,080 --> 02:08:46,480
And he was being very verbally and mentally abusive so I'm also like blocking her and doing childish petty things

2109
02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:49,760
And then once she you know come and tell a story like in who he is

2110
02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:55,040
Then he started dawksing on telling business talking about but our disparaging on the internet and then by the time kiki

2111
02:08:55,200 --> 02:09:01,440
Who was as fine? He fucked yet pregnant and then was ghosting and doing stink and lying to and all the same stories

2112
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:07,200
He inferredly inferred lawless in the next thing. He also come and dawks that gal and I think he's suing her now like lord

2113
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:13,760
display and now this gal her story is a little different so she dated abba from she was 22 to 26

2114
02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:19,360
I don't know how old abba is but I know abba abba. I'm gonna see how this let me google. Abba is 36

2115
02:09:19,760 --> 02:09:23,680
Okay, I went on a date with a young woman the other day and I don't know what happened but like we're hitting 31

2116
02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:27,920
But it's like how old 22. Okay, you went out with a 20-year-old. Yeah

2117
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:30,000
No, like I don't know if you had this happen

2118
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:34,400
But like when you started like trying to hang around because age doesn't hit you until you get it like oh, I'm old moment

2119
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:38,400
You feel yeah, so I'm like send out she's talking like some about young people. They just talk with so much certainty about shit

2120
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:41,360
They don't nothing about what it's like bitch. You're not bitch. What did you want to tell her?

2121
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:45,360
Okay, I didn't say nothing. I was just like I wanted to say shut up. You know, I mean like

2122
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:50,080
Yeah

2123
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:53,200
Can you guess which Caribbean accent is most prominent in her speech?

2124
02:09:54,160 --> 02:09:57,680
Um, I would say for her it would definitely be the um

2125
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:07,880
the

2126
02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:37,640
oh wait that's a music type never mind my try it ain't just three there's apparently six gals now which is why I have to stop this video telling y'all I'm tapping out here because generally let me just say this I don't like to do repeat follow up on things especially stuff like this like for me I don't interest in a drama channel I don't want to like be just condemning people to condemn people like hold you to talking about I don't I don't like that I don't like the idea of you thinking I come to come hate on whoever getting hit it on that week every week I just want to talk with fun little tanks have a little joke I'll include Kiki a little bit of

2127
02:10:37,640 --> 02:11:07,440
sensible analysis with it if it's called for mostly I just want this to be frivolous trivial shit and I move on I don't care about any of these people I don't want y'all to ever think I give a sh*t like you know I mean like you know when these channels is getting hot on for a particular person and then they keep talking about them mining I don't like that she's not a snarker she's anti snarker I'm talking about TV shows and stuff I try to conduct business in a particular kind of way like the most videos I have on stuff like it's like sex in the city and like hi much about it and even though it's like six videos nine videos and

2128
02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:36,840
spread apart the way I try to make media especially there and especially with things like reality reality TV or like real people like something like what we talking about in chill I try to do it in a way that seems to touch like I am not gonna be like there's a new season of Love Island or Love is Blind let me tell you all of the contestants and what I've learned about them and what I think and what's happening there real life and let's do an update no no no no no no no no that's how you end up in drama and find them's talking about you and I don't give a sh*t I just want to talk about this as somebody watching like a show you sit I'm saying like they got to be some kind of removed

2129
02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:46,360
once you see me talk about something on only until like generally I'm coming back to that because I'm trying to treat that as a flash in the pond that was just a funny story let's talk about that move on I don't want you think I into that

2130
02:11:46,360 --> 02:12:05,720
Abba's lie to gals he's a unprotected sex with them if they happen to get pregnant he's be like what's going on that baby and he's go about his business and if they should open them mother s*** mode he is get Nutalia Tori he get online he is doc stem he is getting on stream he is not telling all the business weapon eyes and all the life experiences against them such shame in them and boy he was doing plenty of a slush

2131
02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:35,520
shame in boy talking about kiki like well you already have a baby you already have a baby for mine you ain't know from no s*** well a sex tourist you let f**k you and give you baby and go so how you get to be talking about me like he was doing all kinds of such a man I said it to say that's what it ultimately is I don't feel like I need to cover this for the next million gals they're gonna end up come telling these stories unless something crazy and even still I'm the police I don't want to cover it this my turn and last time be talking about our buying in it so on May 10 I contacted Libby that's the ex-girlfriend

2132
02:12:35,520 --> 02:13:04,520
that first came out talking about her experience dating him and it was an experience that it was a toxic relationship there were a lot of ups and downs and ultimately he got her pregnant and while she was pregnant she was indecisive of whether or not she wanted to keep the baby and he blocked her and called her a lot of names and wanted her back but only if she kept the child

2133
02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:23,520
or like it was just a lot of back and forth and she decides to make a video because she feels that the public person abbess portraying and his personal aren't the same and seeing the comments that she received on this video I was horrified

2134
02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:40,520
people were calling her a gold digger a whore shit comments about having borderline personality disorder a lot of people were just relating the experience to them when they had stated a crazy girl and I thought of this as more than unfair

2135
02:13:40,520 --> 02:13:54,520
he exposed her sexual preferences and opens the door for a lot of harassment that is she still receiving to this day he also posted her full name and workplace

2136
02:13:54,520 --> 02:14:04,520
I dated Abb in the past on and off from when I was 22 to 26 I have to say most times it was very peaceful he does have a tendency to be emotional and block you and unblock you

2137
02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:17,520
I had to say most times we were just nice to each other the second time meeting I got pregnant and December 2022 and he had sent me an STD test prior and also he has told me he had a kidney disease and in his words kids just aren't happening for him

2138
02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:34,520
she told me she told me that you had also told her you were on some medication that would make infertile but that's not the case that's like really bad

2139
02:14:34,520 --> 02:14:49,520
I will be doing this video to really matter I have 60 to go if we want to go off the amount of videos Abb and preach have made on fresh and fit for just one situation by the way we have three girls that are public and four that have remained anonymous so I think this warrants at least

2140
02:14:49,520 --> 02:15:03,520
I'm 395 videos on you Abb, congrats you've given me subscribers and I've been improving my English fluency through these videos shoutouts to you I think it's stuck out as a positive that despite the fact that she had a positive relationship

2141
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:04,240
But this man way he was not abusive to her that doesn't prevent her from acknowledging that he could have been abusive to other women

2142
02:15:04,240 --> 02:15:07,120
And giving them the benefit of the doubt and hearing them out and wanting to be on the side of those women

2143
02:15:07,120 --> 02:15:10,240
That that speaks a better character than you see from a lot of women right now rick ross

2144
02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:15,520
Maybe my old haters guts she on the shade room and places defending this because his new girlfriend accused him of abuse like

2145
02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:23,840
Can I just say like this is one of the most insane fucking predatory examples I have ever

2146
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:27,840
Fucking seen this entire fucking space like years. I've been on this platform

2147
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:34,480
I've never seen the fucking case like this. Okay. Stop. Hold on the good troll. Okay. Whatever the fuck fix it

2148
02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:44,000
Why it sounds like um

2149
02:15:45,040 --> 02:15:48,320
I actually don't even know what would be causing that so I'm kind of cable

2150
02:15:50,720 --> 02:15:52,640
Okay, okay, is it is it fixed now? Is it fixed?

2151
02:15:54,080 --> 02:15:56,080
Is it fixed? No, it sounds like you have like a

2152
02:15:58,400 --> 02:16:00,400
Crossed cable or something

2153
02:16:01,280 --> 02:16:03,280
Okay, whatever

2154
02:16:04,960 --> 02:16:06,400
Um

2155
02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:08,720
I mean, I do kind of agree with you though. I don't know why

2156
02:16:09,680 --> 02:16:11,680
I don't know what the fuck it's covered or whatever bro

2157
02:16:13,040 --> 02:16:18,320
Obviously, I'm biased or whatever but like given how much drama has been involved or like my shit and like everything like just

2158
02:16:18,400 --> 02:16:23,040
In terms of all the things that people do I feel like the amount of attention that I'm like there's a rapist manipulator pedophile

2159
02:16:23,600 --> 02:16:28,320
And then like the like assuming you believe what pixie's saying now that i'm saying that it's true

2160
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:29,840
This is not a confession drone

2161
02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:31,840
But like even if you assume that what pixie's saying is true

2162
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:36,000
Like the worst thing I did was I I gooned hard and I sent a video of me and

2163
02:16:36,480 --> 02:16:41,680
Her engaged in a sexual act to another person that I that she didn't want me to that let's like at its worst

2164
02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:48,560
That's her accusation and it's like the entire fucking online world is like this is Epstein

2165
02:16:48,880 --> 02:16:53,200
Epstein and then some of the other shit going on bro the fucking

2166
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:57,600
Is it for knock that women? I don't know. This is like how long ago this video was made

2167
02:16:58,160 --> 02:17:02,800
That's just fucking that's crazy. But what do you want me to say? Sometimes people

2168
02:17:05,920 --> 02:17:07,920
Okay, be careful

2169
02:17:08,880 --> 02:17:09,600
So you know how to

2170
02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:12,480
There's a common pervasive narrative of gals thinking because they didn't have an experience with a man

2171
02:17:12,480 --> 02:17:14,560
That means another woman did not have that experience with demand and discounting their view

2172
02:17:14,560 --> 02:17:17,680
So I think that this week's dark character in the positive in the sense that for how to be able to see these women

2173
02:17:17,680 --> 02:17:20,880
Tell their story with him that's different from her story and still like be open to believing and supporting them

2174
02:17:20,880 --> 02:17:24,240
So I think that's one thing on the side from where I was not them me and you I was with you for four years

2175
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:27,360
On and off whatever but ultimately four years. I never do you nothing. We have a good relationship

2176
02:17:27,360 --> 02:17:29,200
We have a good report good friendship. We don't have no problems

2177
02:17:29,200 --> 02:17:33,360
But because other gals now online disparaging me which I denied you our relationship with me

2178
02:17:33,360 --> 02:17:34,800
We're in and like this I've been we friends

2179
02:17:34,800 --> 02:17:35,520
You don't know nothing like that

2180
02:17:35,520 --> 02:17:38,160
I'm telling you that these gals and my stalkers these gals maligning me and all of that

2181
02:17:38,160 --> 02:17:40,160
But you decide to voluntarily put yourself in it

2182
02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:44,000
You can go body away to go get in contact with these women who do me dirty and then you coming on the phone to offer me support

2183
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:48,160
But this stuff going on but you really are actually trying to set me up and fish to make me look away and you probably recording this call

2184
02:17:48,160 --> 02:17:51,600
So go put this out and make this a part of some expose and join these gals or whatever narrative against me

2185
02:17:51,600 --> 02:17:54,560
And that is in fact what you're doing. It do look crazy. I understand from his perspective

2186
02:17:54,560 --> 02:17:57,360
Yeah, like that is wild like it can look good to say like look at an extra mile

2187
02:17:57,360 --> 02:18:02,320
She'll go to support these gals, especially by comparison to Kiki who went Kiki originally. I was surprisingly

2188
02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:09,760
Understanding of both sides there. I think it was a fair take. All right, jeez

2189
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:14,160
You saw Libby's story and her and Apple was still cool. She started believing in Libby thinking Libby and stalking taking everything that Apple

2190
02:18:14,160 --> 02:18:16,400
Say at face value and all of this so like it really just depends on how you want to look at it

2191
02:18:16,400 --> 02:18:20,560
But if you look at it as Apple you raggedy bitches is what he thinking so jal let me let me play this audio for y'all

2192
02:18:20,560 --> 02:18:25,840
People arguing with me. There's no conversations between any of us talking about oh, Abba defrauded me

2193
02:18:25,840 --> 02:18:29,680
Okay, this one out. Let me for context. This is Apple Apple was doing a stream. I thought you'd do an hours worth of streams exposing

2194
02:18:29,760 --> 02:18:30,800
This was not

2195
02:18:30,800 --> 02:18:34,960
I don't know what it was the setup for this or what this just was not it. I don't know it

2196
02:18:35,520 --> 02:18:38,560
I don't think this is a good idea this particular stream, but whatever

2197
02:18:38,560 --> 02:18:41,360
It's like a little warehouse. Yeah, did you ever watch this one?

2198
02:18:42,640 --> 02:18:44,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah, not it

2199
02:18:46,800 --> 02:18:49,920
Abba defrauded me. Okay, this one out. Let me for context this Apple Apple is doing a stream

2200
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:52,720
I thought you'd be doing hours worth of streams exposing these gals and being retaliatory and whatnot

2201
02:18:52,720 --> 02:18:56,880
So in his dream addressing his black mailer's new lies. I'm calling these gals my black mailo my stalker my disc

2202
02:18:56,880 --> 02:18:58,240
Yeah, ex bitches

2203
02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:00,240
Okay, wait, hold on

2204
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:04,480
Heads up or reminder. Are you familiar with like the crisp brown Rihanna thing?

2205
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:07,120
Yeah

2206
02:19:07,120 --> 02:19:09,120
vaguely

2207
02:19:09,440 --> 02:19:11,440
How the fuck

2208
02:19:11,600 --> 02:19:15,120
Did it really was just a different time? I guess right I feel like um

2209
02:19:15,600 --> 02:19:18,880
I discovered this I think I was like 25 or 26. I looked at but this even that even at that age

2210
02:19:18,880 --> 02:19:24,080
It was years after he like he beat the shit out of her like she'd go to a hospital and she was fucked

2211
02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:27,120
For some reason I'd always thought that like um

2212
02:19:27,680 --> 02:19:31,680
Uh way way way back when I was on my team's like I just thought that maybe he like slapped her or whatever and it's like

2213
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:37,760
It's not great. You know shouldn't do that. Not good. Uh, but he like he like fucking she was like stuck in the car in the passenger

2214
02:19:37,760 --> 02:19:42,160
Sheet and he was like whaling on like beating the ever-living fucking shit out of her. I don't know how the fuck

2215
02:19:43,440 --> 02:19:45,440
No one gave a fuck

2216
02:19:46,400 --> 02:19:49,840
I feel like the only shit that gets you like megan nuke from the industry is like actual full-on pet o shit

2217
02:19:49,840 --> 02:19:56,400
Because like toy lane saws a career and he just like straight up shot his girlfriend or whoever the fuck that was really

2218
02:19:56,800 --> 02:19:59,840
He's still chilling. Yeah, it was um megan

2219
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:04,320
be stallion or whatever. Yeah, you just like shot her in the foot. I'm fairly certain.

2220
02:20:04,320 --> 02:20:08,400
No, it's a career. Wait, was this like on accident or was this for a for a for a?

2221
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:15,760
Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, he's in jail, but like, I don't think like even his fans,

2222
02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:20,240
I don't think that they like stopped listening to him or like canceled him or anything.

2223
02:20:21,120 --> 02:20:25,280
Do you think David's going to pull through? Wait, how's the no?

2224
02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:32,800
Okay, just a body guy. Yeah. It's good now. Yeah, sounds good.

2225
02:20:33,680 --> 02:20:40,480
Okay. Yeah. So I've never ever seen anything with with Abba ever before. Like, I'm pretty

2226
02:20:40,480 --> 02:20:45,520
sure I've reviewed like all the way from Alex Kister, the Mandela catalog person who got into

2227
02:20:45,520 --> 02:20:51,920
the allegations with like 20 minors. I reviewed all of this other shit before your drama,

2228
02:20:51,920 --> 02:20:56,880
bullshit. And yeah, I ain't ever seen anybody with this amount of predatory behavior outside

2229
02:20:56,880 --> 02:21:03,680
of maybe tech tone. And tech tone was like, especially somebody who was like, super crazy and malicious,

2230
02:21:03,680 --> 02:21:08,880
but this is even, this is probably on par with that level probably. Maybe no, not as malicious

2231
02:21:08,880 --> 02:21:13,040
tech tone, but like, I mean, I don't think I feel like it was more it's still under the,

2232
02:21:13,760 --> 02:21:18,640
is as gross as it was under the auspices of like, selfish guner,

2233
02:21:20,320 --> 02:21:23,440
yeah, like really selfish guner behavior. I don't know if I would say he did anything.

2234
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:27,760
It was like, necessarily like, when you say predatory, I guess, what do you, what behavior

2235
02:21:27,760 --> 02:21:33,360
you're talking about there? Like, I'm talking about like this malicious, like, almost like kind of

2236
02:21:33,360 --> 02:21:38,400
covering it up. You saying that, Oh, I just want to come inside you because I have such a low,

2237
02:21:38,400 --> 02:21:44,880
like fucking sperm count. Hey, like, yes, I am just only seeing you, but I'm actually seeing like

2238
02:21:44,880 --> 02:21:49,840
two other women at the same time. I'm just not telling you about it. That stuff is crazy to me.

2239
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:57,840
Like, that seems crazy malicious in my opinion. Although, um, yeah, that is crazy. It would be,

2240
02:21:57,840 --> 02:22:02,960
what do we, what do we, would we say predatory? Yeah, I would say predatory.

2241
02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:09,600
Um, and yeah, like, especially when he fucking turned his back on you, I think that's especially

2242
02:22:09,600 --> 02:22:15,920
hypocritical. Like his, his video on you actually did more damage in my opinion than any like,

2243
02:22:15,920 --> 02:22:20,320
single snarker video ever did. I agree 1 million percent. So I get so annoyed when all my fans

2244
02:22:20,320 --> 02:22:24,800
are like, well, he was nice or whatever. And it's like, brah. Yes. Yes. No, it was not, it was not.

2245
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:29,040
It's one of these videos where you take a moral high ground. You look like a merciful king, right?

2246
02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:32,320
Yeah, act like a merciful king. Kind of. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. Do you know who else? Do you know

2247
02:22:32,320 --> 02:22:38,320
who the second most damage was done by? I don't fucking know, Pixie. I don't fucking know who

2248
02:22:38,320 --> 02:22:42,800
presents on day in terms of that was was, I don't like to bring it up because I don't like to put

2249
02:22:42,800 --> 02:22:46,880
like a positive expectation on people as an, I expect them to like go out and do an action.

2250
02:22:46,880 --> 02:22:52,400
But it was, it was probably Pisco. What? Because I think, because I think a lot of people,

2251
02:22:53,280 --> 02:22:58,400
like it's a lawsuit. So there's like a legal thing involved. And it's like, okay, well,

2252
02:22:58,400 --> 02:23:03,360
who's like the DGG legal person? And then it's like, well, Pisco's a legal person.

2253
02:23:03,360 --> 02:23:06,800
And he doesn't have anything to say about this. So this should must be real bad.

2254
02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:10,800
Because I think that the reason why Abba's thing was so hurtful. Um, when I say hurtful,

2255
02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:13,680
I just mean like a, like damaging was that like Abba was kind of seen as like the community

2256
02:23:13,680 --> 02:23:17,440
normie check. Like this is a normal dude. He's like a decent guy. And he says this is like super

2257
02:23:17,440 --> 02:23:23,120
fucked. So ship must be super fucked, you know, yeah. And um, loaner box leaving was also like a

2258
02:23:23,120 --> 02:23:28,560
really big damaging thing to you as well. Well, that was massive. Yeah. I think it sucked because

2259
02:23:28,560 --> 02:23:32,080
loaner boxes, obviously, in my opinion, one of the best content creators in terms of like the

2260
02:23:32,080 --> 02:23:37,120
stuff that I do. But I think I agree. I think that, um, it doesn't come off as immediately damaging

2261
02:23:37,120 --> 02:23:42,240
because, um, I'm not, I don't know, I'm hedging everything, but like, because it's easy to write

2262
02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:46,160
that off and say, well, he was dating Pixie. So of course, right. So I think that there's like a

2263
02:23:46,160 --> 02:23:51,600
little bit more of a, like, understandable personal connection. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. Yeah, I get it.

2264
02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:54,880
Yeah. But I think for like people like Abba or for people like Pisco's like, well, I mean, like,

2265
02:23:54,880 --> 02:23:57,600
these are kind of our normie checks or legal checks. And they're not saying shit. So this

2266
02:23:57,600 --> 02:24:01,600
must be like super, super, super fucking, but I mean, like, I mean, that's cool. Cause I didn't

2267
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:05,440
know your take on Pisco about that. So that's cool to know. Yeah. But it is what it is. Yeah.

2268
02:24:06,640 --> 02:24:11,120
It's crazy. I think anyway. Yeah. Go ahead. He goes on, on his live. And he's basically like,

2269
02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:13,360
Oh, if all these guys exposing me and saying all this different stuff, I was abusive and all this

2270
02:24:13,360 --> 02:24:16,080
how come none of them can tell or show you that I mean, I never had a fight or argument that I was

2271
02:24:16,080 --> 02:24:18,720
rooting them that I was whatever, whatever. And so she's gonna show that I know true what her

2272
02:24:18,720 --> 02:24:22,160
recorded phone call. And also, while he's saying this, she has a WhatsApp on the side, like, of

2273
02:24:22,160 --> 02:24:24,960
their conversation, because what she related to was feeling like he lied about the, Oh, I can't

2274
02:24:24,960 --> 02:24:27,280
get you pregnant stuff or whatever, because she did end up, she did get pregnant. She didn't say

2275
02:24:27,280 --> 02:24:29,680
specifically what happened to this baby. I don't know. She had an abortion on this garage or what

2276
02:24:29,680 --> 02:24:38,720
happened. But I presumably don't have a job that she said she learned pregnant for him too, while in the relationship. Yeah, Sunday hates you. Listen, I hate President Sunday as well. I really do. But I always appreciate people

2277
02:24:39,760 --> 02:24:49,680
with their own minds. And you know what, President Sunday, for all of his faults, he is his own guy. He's out there doing his own thing. Sometimes he starts snarking, I'm pretty sure, right?

2278
02:24:51,680 --> 02:24:59,280
I don't know if I don't think President, I think President Sunday hated me. And I think he'd hit pieces on me. But I don't think he was ever like a snarker of mine

2279
02:24:59,280 --> 02:25:01,880
per se.

2280
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:05,840
if he was a snarker of anybody absolutely was he absolutely was yeah if he was a snarker of anybody

2281
02:25:05,840 --> 02:25:10,240
i would say it was more so kyla i don't know what it is about kyla kyla no absolutely yeah yeah

2282
02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:14,000
but he was attacking all the girls that was like remotely connected with you like for example he

2283
02:25:14,000 --> 02:25:20,000
also went after iris stock yes aristocracy um that was a good example as well um i think after uh

2284
02:25:20,960 --> 02:25:28,640
7/11 happened 9/11 whatever the fuck it was uh 10/7 i don't fucking know okay um yeah like he went

2285
02:25:28,640 --> 02:25:35,280
fucking batshit over aristocracy being paranoid about like fucking Jew hunters in Canada or some

2286
02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:41,440
shit and he said that she was being islamophobic or whatever the fuck yeah interesting

2287
02:25:42,880 --> 02:25:45,280
no you're wrong and so this Stephanie you got these Stephanie what's our messages to him i like

2288
02:25:45,280 --> 02:25:47,600
i find it really weird that a girl makes a video about you getting her pregnant and getting blocked

2289
02:25:47,600 --> 02:25:49,760
ain't that what happened with us too and then you go online acting all holy that's what's so

2290
02:25:49,760 --> 02:25:52,240
**** up and he was like no i blocked you before i even knew because we were done so she's like

2291
02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:54,400
i messaged you i messaged you so much and he said i was in a relationship with her with you

2292
02:25:54,400 --> 02:25:56,960
we had met and it just didn't pan out with her she wanted the abortion and i didn't and so she

2293
02:25:56,960 --> 02:25:59,760
said so what **** them kids it was so hard on me and apple was like she scheduled abortion

2294
02:25:59,760 --> 02:26:02,480
trips i went with her and didn't want her to do it half a basically saying please stop comparing

2295
02:26:02,480 --> 02:26:06,080
your situations y'all is gals i don't even rate ***** these ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** out oh that's

2296
02:26:06,080 --> 02:26:08,480
basically what he's saying please stop worrying about what the situation was with me and the

2297
02:26:08,480 --> 02:26:11,920
beat i was a relationship you gals y'all y'all is just gals i ***** around with okay so it ain't the same

2298
02:26:11,920 --> 02:26:15,440
thing it's so a lot of apofunny here i don't mean funny hi hi me and halo i'm not gonna keep going

2299
02:26:15,440 --> 02:26:17,760
to all the facts my sister she have on this we can move on because i want y'all to hit a phone call

2300
02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:20,320
it's like all my thoughts is going on but he says i'm more so annoyed that your drama driven and

2301
02:26:20,320 --> 02:26:22,960
talking to my exes it's weirdo stuff she's like oh who cares if you're just one of me this person he's

2302
02:26:22,960 --> 02:26:26,000
like i know you don't care it's why and they just going back and forth but stuff my thing is i understand

2303
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:29,040
both things like it is weird to be like oh i can go get in touch with all his exes and insert

2304
02:26:29,040 --> 02:26:32,080
myself into this like drama and like youtube stuff and all of this in the next thing whatever and like

2305
02:26:32,080 --> 02:26:34,880
i can make a channel and be talking about this most record phone calls when like you had a relationship

2306
02:26:34,880 --> 02:26:37,360
with him and by your own admission he didn't do you know that stuff but there's a way go about things

2307
02:26:37,360 --> 02:26:40,480
there is a deceitfulness in like inserting yourself into a drama and then calling him trying to like

2308
02:26:40,480 --> 02:26:43,040
set it up into all of this from his perspective i understand it to see in that from how perspective

2309
02:26:43,040 --> 02:26:45,360
and i'm sure a lot of other people's perspective she trying to do the right thing she trying to support

2310
02:26:45,360 --> 02:26:50,960
these women and help these women who she feels are being unfairly maligned retaliated against disparage mistreated and abused online especially when they have a similar

2311
02:26:50,960 --> 02:26:55,360
experience in terms of getting pregnant and not feeling supported by abba that she does so i get that um there's no

2312
02:26:55,360 --> 02:27:00,160
arguments like you know the whole thing about the fraud thing because they're essentially saying you're great or so whatever okay no thing about the fraud he's like okay

2313
02:27:00,160 --> 02:27:11,840
how come there's never a single argument between me and anyone about this alleged fraud you think that if someone defrauded you they lied to you and made you do something with false information you would argue oh so i said say abba gak yells pimpin all over the world here he knocking pictures up from here to japan okay

2314
02:27:11,840 --> 02:27:31,840
everywhere but africa and say something we don't have a single argument at any point she bought the play your phone call that she recorded with him as a rebuttal to him saying how come they don't have a single argument like we had a single argument with me so she bought the play this he was like like i could tell you recording that so you move in like i believe that you're doing that and you set me up and you're doing all these things or whatever anyway she's getting like horrible comments but you do have to take responsibility for if you don't have to take responsibility when people say she goes to

2315
02:27:31,840 --> 02:27:34,560
People have formal comments on her video. That's her choice.

2316
02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:35,760
They see her video and that's what they think.

2317
02:27:35,760 --> 02:27:37,680
- But it attracts a certain kind of like viewer.

2318
02:27:37,680 --> 02:27:39,360
- That's not my responsibility. Why are you saying her responsibility?

2319
02:27:39,360 --> 02:27:41,200
No, stop, stop. You don't get to go publicize on the internet.

2320
02:27:41,200 --> 02:27:42,560
- Because the thing is, Abba, the thing's about it.

2321
02:27:42,560 --> 02:27:43,920
- I hope not to publish it. No, I hope not to publish it.

2322
02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:45,360
I think it's really stupid because I know how the story was.

2323
02:27:45,360 --> 02:27:46,960
And she does look stupid. So people say she looks stupid.

2324
02:27:46,960 --> 02:27:47,600
That's her responsibility.

2325
02:27:47,600 --> 02:27:49,040
- I don't know if she looks stupid. I don't think she's that stupid.

2326
02:27:49,040 --> 02:27:51,040
- Oh my God. You're asking me to stop her.

2327
02:27:51,040 --> 02:27:53,120
- I think you want to have me empathetic with her. No, stop.

2328
02:27:53,120 --> 02:28:16,400
- How would I not? She sounds really sad.

2329
02:28:16,400 --> 02:28:18,800
- I do agree that. I've said this before on a complaint that like

2330
02:28:18,800 --> 02:28:22,320
people that it's like, oh hey, well, it's really fun to be friends

2331
02:28:22,320 --> 02:28:26,240
of the streamer or do data streamer. And the most fun part about it

2332
02:28:26,240 --> 02:28:29,440
is I can't wait until we stop being friends so that I can go online

2333
02:28:29,440 --> 02:28:33,040
and give my towel on. It's like, oh boy, here we go again.

2334
02:28:34,640 --> 02:28:37,360
There was, I had that feeling and there was one fact that

2335
02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:40,160
changed my mind on that. I don't remember what it was.

2336
02:28:40,160 --> 02:28:43,440
It might have been that Abba went and was talking shit

2337
02:28:43,440 --> 02:28:44,880
about her after they broke up or something.

2338
02:28:44,880 --> 02:28:46,000
I don't remember. There was something like that.

2339
02:28:46,000 --> 02:28:47,520
I was like, okay, well, I kind of get it a little bit more.

2340
02:28:47,520 --> 02:28:50,640
Because otherwise I'm thinking like, why go out and do all this shit?

2341
02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:52,960
Like, why? I don't know. But I feel like something like that

2342
02:28:52,960 --> 02:28:56,560
happened. I was like, I guess, I guess I got it.

2343
02:28:56,560 --> 02:28:59,840
- If you want to go do it, I don't, I never said a bad thing about you after we did it.

2344
02:28:59,840 --> 02:29:01,760
Because my head, just by whatever my head or disagreements we should be at,

2345
02:29:01,760 --> 02:29:02,960
I just have to think like, all right, it didn't work out.

2346
02:29:02,960 --> 02:29:04,960
It's okay. But now you're over here talking to my ex and you can accept it.

2347
02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:06,720
That's what's bothering me. You were contacting people in my life.

2348
02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:07,600
I would have never done that to you.

2349
02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:10,320
- The most serious accusations that anybody can make towards Abba

2350
02:29:10,320 --> 02:29:12,560
and the only one of all the women to come forward to tell you stories of him

2351
02:29:12,560 --> 02:29:15,760
being a douchebag, the only one that, you know, intimates by fraud is Kiki.

2352
02:29:15,760 --> 02:29:21,200
A lot of this could have fallen under that. Rape by fraud. A lot of jurisdictions considered this criminal act, but it depends on, you know, the circumstances.

2353
02:29:21,200 --> 02:29:25,440
I would say that sleeping around and possibly giving somebody an STD, that can fall under rape by fraud.

2354
02:29:25,440 --> 02:29:28,880
- And I want to- - Oh, I feel a lot of man. I still want to go downstairs, not only shouldn't.

2355
02:29:28,880 --> 02:29:32,560
- For which, what? - Oh, the Kiki, the Kiki woman.

2356
02:29:32,560 --> 02:29:35,200
Now, I don't know what your thoughts are on her.

2357
02:29:35,200 --> 02:29:41,600
However, she, very specific, she was, she got like fucking done over so bad by men in her life, apparently.

2358
02:29:42,160 --> 02:29:44,960
And then this was like- - Oh, because she was the one, she was a single mom, right?

2359
02:29:45,600 --> 02:29:50,240
She was the single mom with like heavy depression over like domestic abuse situation or some shit.

2360
02:29:50,240 --> 02:29:54,880
And Abba came into her life, she thinks that this is like the one good man.

2361
02:29:55,600 --> 02:29:59,520
Boom. Like, oh, I feel so bad for her. Holy shit.

2362
02:29:59,520 --> 02:30:00,000
And apparently-

2363
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,160
- Apparently she has like severe PTSD now or some shit

2364
02:30:04,160 --> 02:30:06,240
or whatever the fuck from the situation.

2365
02:30:06,240 --> 02:30:09,280
- Also keep up with the terms, girls on the internet

2366
02:30:09,280 --> 02:30:10,840
don't have PTSD anymore.

2367
02:30:10,840 --> 02:30:14,080
Now they have CPTSD, 'cause it's way cooler, okay?

2368
02:30:14,080 --> 02:30:15,680
- What the fuck is that, okay?

2369
02:30:15,680 --> 02:30:18,160
- PTSD is like loser things, like maybe you get triggered

2370
02:30:18,160 --> 02:30:19,000
whatever but you can get over it.

2371
02:30:19,000 --> 02:30:22,240
CPTSD is complex post-traumatic stress disorder

2372
02:30:22,240 --> 02:30:23,960
which is like way more fucking severe.

2373
02:30:23,960 --> 02:30:25,480
So everybody says they have CPTSD now,

2374
02:30:25,480 --> 02:30:26,320
so they're PTSD.

2375
02:30:26,320 --> 02:30:27,160
You got the point.

2376
02:30:27,160 --> 02:30:28,480
- Well now it's CP, Jesus Christ.

2377
02:30:28,480 --> 02:30:30,240
I'm gonna be like dismissed this but like feel enraged

2378
02:30:30,240 --> 02:30:31,160
that she dear suggests this.

2379
02:30:31,160 --> 02:30:32,640
And the reason why I feel that way is because

2380
02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:34,400
it is very common and normal in our society

2381
02:30:34,400 --> 02:30:36,120
for men to lie to women in order to get women

2382
02:30:36,120 --> 02:30:36,960
to sleep with them, right?

2383
02:30:36,960 --> 02:30:38,440
So it poses a big problem in the (beep)

2384
02:30:38,440 --> 02:30:39,280
culture that we live in.

2385
02:30:39,280 --> 02:30:42,280
If we were to now recognize that as fundamentally unacceptable.

2386
02:30:42,280 --> 02:30:43,320
Like if we recognize that as (beep)

2387
02:30:43,320 --> 02:30:44,480
as any variation of (beep) or essay,

2388
02:30:44,480 --> 02:30:45,720
that becomes very alarming to men

2389
02:30:45,720 --> 02:30:47,440
who've been socialized and raised to believe

2390
02:30:47,440 --> 02:30:49,120
that running game and finessing women

2391
02:30:49,120 --> 02:30:50,040
and all these different things they do

2392
02:30:50,040 --> 02:30:51,200
that are fundamentally dishonest

2393
02:30:51,200 --> 02:30:52,800
in order to get consent are not actually,

2394
02:30:52,800 --> 02:30:54,880
that's not real consent lying.

2395
02:30:54,880 --> 02:30:57,440
- That's why I hate the word, I just hate the word consent

2396
02:30:57,440 --> 02:30:59,680
because when consent is brought in as a word,

2397
02:30:59,680 --> 02:31:01,920
like the only thing that you can think of

2398
02:31:01,920 --> 02:31:04,120
if consent is not there, is that rape happened.

2399
02:31:04,120 --> 02:31:05,640
And it's like there's a whole bunch of different ways

2400
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:08,400
that you can mislead people into having sexual encounters

2401
02:31:08,400 --> 02:31:09,760
where we wouldn't say that it's like rape.

2402
02:31:09,760 --> 02:31:11,240
I brought this up a bunch that it's just like,

2403
02:31:11,240 --> 02:31:12,960
I feel like it's just a really, really heavy term

2404
02:31:12,960 --> 02:31:13,800
to bring up.

2405
02:31:13,800 --> 02:31:15,440
- The implicit, explicit,

2406
02:31:15,440 --> 02:31:16,200
consent shit, right?

2407
02:31:16,200 --> 02:31:17,040
Yeah, exactly.

2408
02:31:17,040 --> 02:31:17,880
- Yeah.

2409
02:31:17,880 --> 02:31:19,040
Or like that there's like so many different things

2410
02:31:19,040 --> 02:31:20,200
we can talk about in terms of like,

2411
02:31:20,200 --> 02:31:22,360
they lied about their job, they lied about their job,

2412
02:31:22,360 --> 02:31:24,120
they were dating somebody, they lied about whatever.

2413
02:31:24,120 --> 02:31:25,960
And it's like, what do we call this rape?

2414
02:31:25,960 --> 02:31:27,760
And I don't think so.

2415
02:31:27,760 --> 02:31:30,160
- It also, it's rape also lost meaning, so.

2416
02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:31,000
- Yeah.

2417
02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:32,360
- And manipulating them in is not true consent.

2418
02:31:32,360 --> 02:31:33,960
So that's the reason why they are so terrified

2419
02:31:33,960 --> 02:31:34,800
by that standard.

2420
02:31:34,800 --> 02:31:36,120
Not just terrified, but angry when they hear it,

2421
02:31:36,120 --> 02:31:37,360
especially because they genuinely do not believe

2422
02:31:37,360 --> 02:31:38,720
in a society that has normalized and told them

2423
02:31:38,720 --> 02:31:40,000
that that is acceptable, that's game, that's this,

2424
02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:41,480
women shit, understand it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

2425
02:31:41,480 --> 02:31:42,320
I mean, it sounds outrageous to them

2426
02:31:42,320 --> 02:31:43,720
and it makes them go into their whole.

2427
02:31:43,720 --> 02:31:45,680
- Oh, this is women now not wanting to take accountability

2428
02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:47,040
for things they regret and blah, blah, blah, blah.

2429
02:31:47,040 --> 02:31:48,200
- This is only in terms of, we're not gonna go down

2430
02:31:48,200 --> 02:31:49,960
the entire rabbit hole, I suggest you watch a video

2431
02:31:49,960 --> 02:31:51,680
I say I did about this on my main channel,

2432
02:31:51,680 --> 02:31:56,040
where not how men become a Z's and sorry for a deeper exploration

2433
02:31:56,040 --> 02:31:56,880
of culture, all of that, I just wanna make sure I say that

2434
02:31:56,880 --> 02:31:57,720
because there's so many people acting like that,

2435
02:31:57,720 --> 02:31:58,560
some shit she just pulled out of my ass.

2436
02:31:58,560 --> 02:31:59,600
But that's not the case, that is a legitimate way

2437
02:31:59,600 --> 02:32:00,720
for her to feel about what happened,

2438
02:32:00,720 --> 02:32:02,120
to feel like this was a true consent I was deceived

2439
02:32:02,120 --> 02:32:03,120
because you would just.

2440
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:07,560
- The Aziz Ansari thing?

2441
02:32:07,560 --> 02:32:09,160
- I'd be really curious.

2442
02:32:09,160 --> 02:32:10,800
I don't, how old was I when that happened?

2443
02:32:10,800 --> 02:32:12,160
I don't, I wonder why my takes would change

2444
02:32:12,160 --> 02:32:13,320
on how to reread it.

2445
02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:15,600
My take of the time, I remember going through that was just,

2446
02:32:15,600 --> 02:32:19,040
did you ever read the Aziz Ansari thing, either of you?

2447
02:32:19,040 --> 02:32:21,000
- No, what is that?

2448
02:32:21,000 --> 02:32:24,400
I think it was like a really awkward first date/hookup.

2449
02:32:24,400 --> 02:32:27,200
There's no explicit obvious rape or somebody's like,

2450
02:32:27,200 --> 02:32:28,040
"No!"

2451
02:32:28,040 --> 02:32:28,880
And they keep doing it.

2452
02:32:28,880 --> 02:32:31,120
It was just kind of awkward on both sides.

2453
02:32:31,120 --> 02:32:33,440
But for some reason the girl decided to write an article

2454
02:32:33,440 --> 02:32:35,600
about it, I think this was the,

2455
02:32:35,600 --> 02:32:38,080
when the ship started to turn on the peak,

2456
02:32:38,080 --> 02:32:41,560
like me too stuff, I think it was the Aziz Ansari story

2457
02:32:41,560 --> 02:32:42,880
where people were like, "Ah."

2458
02:32:44,320 --> 02:32:46,400
- Oh, what was the general consensus on it?

2459
02:32:46,400 --> 02:32:49,000
Like awkward situations equals rape or like.

2460
02:32:49,000 --> 02:32:50,480
- I think that was what most people,

2461
02:32:50,480 --> 02:32:52,160
they were like, "This is an awkward situation."

2462
02:32:52,160 --> 02:32:53,520
You're trying to say this guy like raped you.

2463
02:32:53,520 --> 02:32:55,280
This is probably getting a little bit too much.

2464
02:32:55,280 --> 02:32:56,400
I feel like this is when the,

2465
02:32:56,400 --> 02:32:59,480
yeah, when like the peak, me too stuff started to turn.

2466
02:32:59,480 --> 02:33:00,320
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2467
02:33:00,320 --> 02:33:02,080
I've actually seen a situation like that before.

2468
02:33:02,080 --> 02:33:04,400
What was it that George Noth found Minecraft situation?

2469
02:33:04,400 --> 02:33:05,640
Have you followed that one?

2470
02:33:05,640 --> 02:33:07,040
- No, what was this?

2471
02:33:07,040 --> 02:33:07,840
- Okay, okay.

2472
02:33:07,840 --> 02:33:09,360
Yeah, so basically it was like,

2473
02:33:09,360 --> 02:33:13,160
"Oh, well, the girl came out with allegations or whatever."

2474
02:33:13,160 --> 02:33:17,960
But apparently like she allowed him to like go up her shirt

2475
02:33:17,960 --> 02:33:20,760
or something to grab her tits.

2476
02:33:20,760 --> 02:33:23,000
- Oh, wait, in the hotel room or whatever?

2477
02:33:23,000 --> 02:33:24,880
- Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

2478
02:33:24,880 --> 02:33:27,080
- Oh jeez, this was so fucking stupid.

2479
02:33:27,080 --> 02:33:28,080
Oh my God.

2480
02:33:28,080 --> 02:33:31,040
- Yeah, yeah, now you know.

2481
02:33:31,040 --> 02:33:32,200
- Yeah, that was stupid.

2482
02:33:32,200 --> 02:33:34,160
- Yup, yup, another pad unprotected sex.

2483
02:33:34,160 --> 02:33:35,480
Had you not lied to me about being in--

2484
02:33:35,480 --> 02:33:36,320
- Hold on, I'm trying to think.

2485
02:33:36,320 --> 02:33:38,600
There was one really, really, really stupid call.

2486
02:33:38,600 --> 02:33:40,200
- Yeah, that was the freshly eating.

2487
02:33:40,200 --> 02:33:41,440
Yes, that was the freshly eating.

2488
02:33:41,440 --> 02:33:43,000
Yes, I am freshly eating.

2489
02:33:43,000 --> 02:33:43,920
I'm freshly eating, right?

2490
02:33:43,920 --> 02:33:45,040
- That was the birth of the freshly,

2491
02:33:45,040 --> 02:33:46,400
or it might have been first of the 19.

2492
02:33:46,400 --> 02:33:47,240
- Yes, it was.

2493
02:33:47,240 --> 02:33:49,160
- Katie Boggs, Katie Boggs, her name is Katie Boggs.

2494
02:33:49,160 --> 02:33:50,400
I remember now, Katie Boggs.

2495
02:33:50,400 --> 02:33:52,440
And she said, "I was freshly eating."

2496
02:33:52,440 --> 02:33:54,400
And she put on makeup and all of his filter.

2497
02:33:54,400 --> 02:33:58,160
And she was all like, I was molested, yeah.

2498
02:33:58,160 --> 02:34:03,240
- What was the, what were the accusations

2499
02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:06,200
where somebody said that there was a YouTuber

2500
02:34:06,200 --> 02:34:08,920
who was sexually manipulative.

2501
02:34:08,920 --> 02:34:11,760
And part of the proof for it was that

2502
02:34:11,760 --> 02:34:13,320
they were working with this person.

2503
02:34:13,320 --> 02:34:14,840
- Is it Chuck Conroy?

2504
02:34:14,840 --> 02:34:16,040
- I don't know, is it the one where they were working

2505
02:34:16,040 --> 02:34:17,440
with the person, and they were like,

2506
02:34:17,440 --> 02:34:19,200
"Well, it was really hard to get a response from it.

2507
02:34:19,200 --> 02:34:21,480
Any time we were working on art, we had a deadline."

2508
02:34:21,480 --> 02:34:24,480
So we decided to try, maybe if we sent like,

2509
02:34:24,480 --> 02:34:26,440
if I sent like a topless pig of myself to him,

2510
02:34:26,440 --> 02:34:29,080
he'd respond more quickly to my work questions.

2511
02:34:29,080 --> 02:34:30,160
And you know what, it worked.

2512
02:34:30,160 --> 02:34:33,200
- And I'm like, "Motherfucker, this is you being manipulative."

2513
02:34:33,200 --> 02:34:35,640
And she spun that as him manipulating her.

2514
02:34:35,640 --> 02:34:38,600
This is the craziest fucking MeToo doc

2515
02:34:38,600 --> 02:34:40,160
I've ever read in my entire life.

2516
02:34:40,160 --> 02:34:42,360
I'm like, "What the fuck?"

2517
02:34:42,360 --> 02:34:43,200
It was hilarious.

2518
02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:44,200
- Oh, she ever says, "I could know."

2519
02:34:44,200 --> 02:34:46,400
- Is it Sakuno, somebody says Sakuno in the chat.

2520
02:34:46,400 --> 02:34:47,720
- Was it? Was it Sakuno?

2521
02:34:48,720 --> 02:34:49,560
- Oh, I don't know.

2522
02:34:49,560 --> 02:34:51,800
- This was one where, I don't know if you figured this out yet,

2523
02:34:51,800 --> 02:34:53,160
but like, if there's so many Google docs,

2524
02:34:53,160 --> 02:34:54,160
somebody in a rape accusation,

2525
02:34:54,160 --> 02:34:55,880
and the first thing that they mentioned

2526
02:34:55,880 --> 02:34:57,120
is like the most retarded thing ever,

2527
02:34:57,120 --> 02:34:59,160
it's almost for sure the entire thing's gonna be bullshit.

2528
02:34:59,160 --> 02:35:00,000
Was this Quinton reviews?

2529
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:02,120
I don't remember it was, I don't think I was a criminal now.

2530
02:35:02,120 --> 02:35:03,600
- Oh yeah, I don't think I've looked at that.

2531
02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:05,640
- It was whatever was fucking hilarious.

2532
02:35:06,960 --> 02:35:08,040
- Fertile, how'd you not lie to me

2533
02:35:08,040 --> 02:35:08,880
about all these different things?

2534
02:35:08,880 --> 02:35:10,680
So I understand that what rape is legally considered

2535
02:35:10,680 --> 02:35:12,120
varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction,

2536
02:35:12,120 --> 02:35:13,960
rape by fraud is recognized in some places,

2537
02:35:13,960 --> 02:35:15,320
but few and far between and whether or not

2538
02:35:15,320 --> 02:35:16,760
is considered a civil or criminal offense,

2539
02:35:16,760 --> 02:35:18,200
also varies a million different elements and things

2540
02:35:18,200 --> 02:35:19,040
that have happened around there.

2541
02:35:19,040 --> 02:35:19,880
So we could put that aside.

2542
02:35:19,880 --> 02:35:21,280
So we could table the legal ramifications

2543
02:35:21,280 --> 02:35:22,100
and how we really feel about that

2544
02:35:22,100 --> 02:35:23,160
and what we wanna classify this kind of behavior

2545
02:35:23,160 --> 02:35:24,000
as fundamentally.

2546
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:25,080
Going forward on how we unpack our rape culture,

2547
02:35:25,080 --> 02:35:26,040
we could table out what we're dealing with

2548
02:35:26,040 --> 02:35:27,440
is fundamentally a piece of shit ass (beep)

2549
02:35:27,440 --> 02:35:29,880
who lies and misrepresents himself to the public as being this

2550
02:35:29,880 --> 02:35:30,720
upstanding (beep)

2551
02:35:30,720 --> 02:35:31,560
and shits on (beep)

2552
02:35:31,560 --> 02:35:32,400
that a guilty of the same shit that he's done.

2553
02:35:32,400 --> 02:35:33,240
He's a hypocrite.

2554
02:35:33,240 --> 02:35:34,480
- Oh, it was Shay, the delta ruin guy.

2555
02:35:34,480 --> 02:35:37,000
He made a response recently, gotcha.

2556
02:35:37,000 --> 02:35:37,840
- He's a dickhead and a hypocrite.

2557
02:35:37,840 --> 02:35:38,680
That's what I mean with us, right?

2558
02:35:38,680 --> 02:35:39,960
- If you enjoyed the video, you just watched.

2559
02:35:39,960 --> 02:35:40,800
Congratulations.

2560
02:35:40,800 --> 02:35:42,440
You've officially wondered into the Illuminati verse.

2561
02:35:42,440 --> 02:35:43,440
Now, before you get overwhelmed,

2562
02:35:43,440 --> 02:35:45,080
let me explain where exactly you've landed

2563
02:35:45,080 --> 02:35:47,040
because apparently one YouTube channel was not enough of me.

2564
02:35:47,040 --> 02:35:47,880
If you're looking for my biggest--

2565
02:35:47,880 --> 02:35:49,520
- Does she have like nine YouTubes?

2566
02:35:49,520 --> 02:35:50,360
My God.

2567
02:35:50,360 --> 02:35:51,200
- Before you get overwhelmed.

2568
02:35:51,200 --> 02:35:52,040
- Jesus.

2569
02:35:52,040 --> 02:35:52,880
- Exactly you landed.

2570
02:35:52,880 --> 02:35:57,800
- The one YouTube channel was not enough for me.

2571
02:35:57,800 --> 02:35:58,600
The videos that required me to disappear

2572
02:35:58,600 --> 02:35:59,440
into a cave for six weeks and emerge

2573
02:35:59,440 --> 02:36:00,280
with an existential crisis.

2574
02:36:00,280 --> 02:36:01,800
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2622
02:37:09,080 --> 02:37:10,080
- She's hustlin' bro.

2623
02:37:10,080 --> 02:37:11,080
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2624
02:37:11,080 --> 02:37:12,080
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2625
02:37:12,080 --> 02:37:13,080
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2626
02:37:13,080 --> 02:37:14,080
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2627
02:37:14,080 --> 02:37:15,080
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2628
02:37:15,080 --> 02:37:16,080
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2629
02:37:16,080 --> 02:37:17,080
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2630
02:37:17,080 --> 02:37:18,080
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2631
02:37:18,080 --> 02:37:19,080
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2632
02:37:19,080 --> 02:37:20,080
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2633
02:37:20,080 --> 02:37:21,080
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2634
02:37:21,080 --> 02:37:22,080
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2635
02:37:22,080 --> 02:37:23,080
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2636
02:37:23,080 --> 02:37:24,080
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2637
02:37:24,080 --> 02:37:25,080
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2638
02:37:25,080 --> 02:37:26,080
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2639
02:37:26,080 --> 02:37:27,080
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2640
02:37:27,080 --> 02:37:28,080
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2641
02:37:28,080 --> 02:37:29,080
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2642
02:37:29,080 --> 02:37:30,080
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2643
02:37:30,080 --> 02:37:31,080
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2644
02:37:39,080 --> 02:37:40,080
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2645
02:37:40,080 --> 02:37:41,080
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2646
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2647
02:37:42,080 --> 02:37:43,080
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2648
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2649
02:37:44,080 --> 02:37:45,080
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2650
02:37:45,080 --> 02:37:46,080
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2651
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2652
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2653
02:37:48,080 --> 02:37:49,080
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2654
02:37:49,080 --> 02:37:50,080
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2655
02:37:50,080 --> 02:37:51,080
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2656
02:37:51,080 --> 02:37:52,080
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2657
02:37:52,080 --> 02:37:53,080
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2658
02:37:53,080 --> 02:37:54,080
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2659
02:37:54,080 --> 02:37:55,080
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2660
02:37:55,080 --> 02:37:56,080
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2661
02:37:56,080 --> 02:37:57,080
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2662
02:37:57,080 --> 02:37:58,080
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2663
02:37:58,080 --> 02:37:59,080
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2664
02:37:59,080 --> 02:38:00,080
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2665
02:38:00,080 --> 02:38:01,080
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2666
02:38:10,080 --> 02:38:11,080
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2667
02:38:11,080 --> 02:38:12,080
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2668
02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:13,080
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2669
02:38:13,080 --> 02:38:14,080
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2670
02:38:14,080 --> 02:38:15,080
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2671
02:38:15,080 --> 02:38:16,080
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2672
02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:17,080
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2673
02:38:17,080 --> 02:38:18,080
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2674
02:38:18,080 --> 02:38:19,080
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2675
02:38:19,080 --> 02:38:20,080
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2676
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2677
02:38:21,080 --> 02:38:22,080
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2678
02:38:22,080 --> 02:38:23,080
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2679
02:38:23,080 --> 02:38:24,080
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2680
02:38:24,080 --> 02:38:25,080
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2681
02:38:25,080 --> 02:38:26,080
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2682
02:38:26,080 --> 02:38:27,080
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2683
02:38:27,080 --> 02:38:28,080
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2684
02:38:28,080 --> 02:38:29,080
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2685
02:38:29,080 --> 02:38:30,080
- She's hustlin' bro.

2686
02:38:30,080 --> 02:38:31,080
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2687
02:38:31,080 --> 02:38:32,080
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2688
02:38:39,080 --> 02:38:40,080
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2689
02:38:40,080 --> 02:38:41,080
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2690
02:38:41,080 --> 02:38:42,080
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2691
02:38:42,080 --> 02:38:43,080
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2692
02:38:43,080 --> 02:38:44,080
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2693
02:38:44,080 --> 02:38:45,080
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2694
02:38:45,080 --> 02:38:46,080
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2695
02:38:46,080 --> 02:38:47,080
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2696
02:38:47,080 --> 02:38:48,080
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2697
02:38:48,080 --> 02:38:49,080
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2698
02:38:49,080 --> 02:38:50,080
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2699
02:38:50,080 --> 02:38:51,080
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2700
02:38:51,080 --> 02:38:52,080
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2701
02:38:52,080 --> 02:38:53,080
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2702
02:38:53,080 --> 02:38:54,080
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2703
02:38:54,080 --> 02:38:55,080
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2704
02:38:55,080 --> 02:38:56,080
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2705
02:38:56,080 --> 02:38:57,080
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2706
02:38:57,080 --> 02:38:58,080
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2707
02:38:58,080 --> 02:38:59,080
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2708
02:38:59,080 --> 02:39:00,080
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2709
02:39:00,080 --> 02:39:01,080
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2710
02:39:09,080 --> 02:39:10,080
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2711
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2712
02:39:11,080 --> 02:39:12,080
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2713
02:39:12,080 --> 02:39:13,080
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2714
02:39:13,080 --> 02:39:14,080
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2715
02:39:14,080 --> 02:39:15,080
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2716
02:39:15,080 --> 02:39:16,080
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2717
02:39:16,080 --> 02:39:17,080
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2718
02:39:17,080 --> 02:39:18,080
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2719
02:39:18,080 --> 02:39:19,080
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2720
02:39:19,080 --> 02:39:20,080
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2721
02:39:20,080 --> 02:39:21,080
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2722
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2723
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2724
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2725
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2726
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2727
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2728
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2729
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2730
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2731
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2732
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2733
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2734
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2735
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2736
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2737
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2738
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2739
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2740
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2741
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2742
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2743
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2744
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2745
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2746
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2747
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2748
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2749
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- She's hustlin' bro.

2750
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2751
02:39:59,080 --> 02:40:00,080
- She's hustlin' bro.

2752
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:03,920
so there's two things that they kind of like go back and forth on because whenever one gets

2753
02:40:03,920 --> 02:40:08,240
debunked they just switch to the other argument and they just do this infinitely. The first is

2754
02:40:08,240 --> 02:40:12,800
that I had no right to ever look for Rose Ever and that there's no way that I can possibly complain

2755
02:40:12,800 --> 02:40:18,400
about Rose being um docster harassed if I was also looking for her so they'll say that and then

2756
02:40:18,400 --> 02:40:21,200
the second one they go to when that obviously fails because obviously I have a right to figure

2757
02:40:21,200 --> 02:40:25,600
who the fuck is leaking all my personal videos on discord is they'll say oh well you were sending

2758
02:40:25,600 --> 02:40:29,200
child-born to people trying to find out who this girl was you were sharing the child-born of her

2759
02:40:29,200 --> 02:40:32,240
try to figure it out which is I don't even know what the fuck the point of this claim is other than

2760
02:40:32,240 --> 02:40:36,880
it tried to make me look like I'm just sharing child-born I guess but um yeah you got that

2761
02:40:36,880 --> 02:40:40,960
because what in the argument be that they were like they were also sharing child-born because

2762
02:40:40,960 --> 02:40:45,600
weren't they literally like sharing the leaks yeah yeah they are like they're asking Rose's like

2763
02:40:45,600 --> 02:40:48,800
and they are like they're linking to the street it doesn't it doesn't they don't yeah it's but

2764
02:40:48,800 --> 02:40:51,520
these are not serious arguments and they never have to defend them because nobody knows how he tells

2765
02:40:51,520 --> 02:40:56,560
them any of the shit so but yeah of course like um just a goal will say that like well I didn't look

2766
02:40:56,560 --> 02:41:01,440
for it somebody else send it to me and then I didn't um I didn't look at it I just forwarded it or

2767
02:41:01,440 --> 02:41:05,360
something but like one of the solo's messages and remember we believe every single thing that solo

2768
02:41:05,360 --> 02:41:09,440
says as gospel when it's about me but one of the things that solo said about just to go is hey just

2769
02:41:09,440 --> 02:41:12,000
you know you sent me child-born earlier you might want to delete that huh and just goes like well no

2770
02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:16,240
he was lying when he said that but apparently he's honest about everything else I don't know it's

2771
02:41:16,240 --> 02:41:21,040
all over yeah I also don't believe the like I didn't watch it I just got it sent to me because

2772
02:41:21,040 --> 02:41:28,080
like dude dude he's also like wasn't he like was he like giving like trailers for like the the

2773
02:41:28,080 --> 02:41:32,400
cherry logs at the time like he was like talking about how like he heard it and he knows it's

2774
02:41:32,400 --> 02:41:36,960
through and he listened to it so obviously it was like engaging with it's all just like done

2775
02:41:36,960 --> 02:41:40,720
virtually signaling shit this is all retarded it's not these aren't none of these arguments are

2776
02:41:40,720 --> 02:41:45,680
serious there's a reason why just to go will always avoid um fighting on these things outright with

2777
02:41:45,680 --> 02:41:48,880
me especially sometimes we'll go and talk to other people who think he knows more but they'll always

2778
02:41:48,880 --> 02:41:51,680
because they know that they don't have the facts on it's anything but homosexual like the people

2779
02:41:51,680 --> 02:41:54,160
they're the most intimately involved and never want to have conversation about it because it's

2780
02:41:54,160 --> 02:41:58,640
all bullshit they just like obscure and lie about timelines and shit yeah that sleepy guy wants to

2781
02:41:58,640 --> 02:42:03,280
talk to me tomorrow uh do you know anything about him I don't know some of these retarded on twitter

2782
02:42:03,280 --> 02:42:06,800
and it's like kind of annoying it but he just pretends like he doesn't like you got involved please

2783
02:42:07,600 --> 02:42:13,440
he's a he's a commentary as a person that just kind of gave up on trying to make in Nicholas de

2784
02:42:13,440 --> 02:42:18,880
Oreo's orbit or something um so you know failure of a content creator became a snarker because that's

2785
02:42:18,880 --> 02:42:24,880
the only way left right so there you go yeah because a lot of the x the smaller commentary people

2786
02:42:24,880 --> 02:42:30,160
just like went to the snarker verse I guess yeah I think because de oreo basically became a I'm

2787
02:42:30,160 --> 02:42:33,600
not trying to show on de oreo but I think he became well I he might even literally say this he's like

2788
02:42:33,600 --> 02:42:58,560
the h-bait show right I got on the keys I don't think he's shy about that anything so um wait obviously for the pro palestinian snarker people and the anti-eathen people the other side of that was just those like the far lefties and then the and then the destiny snarker so he just ended up trying that side I don't know much about that that whatever guy cheesy or cheeto or whatever the fuck you said his name was other than like I've seen Connor yeah or no no whatever he just said what's his name cheat what?

2789
02:42:59,440 --> 02:43:29,360
sleepy what? sleepy sleepy yeah I don't know anything about him other than I think I've seen Connor watch his videos and he has like every single snarker talking about verbatim so you can always talk with those yeah yeah because they have everything to talk about verbatim yeah yeah I looked at his twitter I remember when I was exchanging deums with him I was trying to get him to talk because I saw him like retweeting stuff or just making snarker comments I was like hey you want to talk about this because like I don't really know too much about the destiny guy I don't really know too much about the whole situation and I was just like I just

2790
02:43:29,440 --> 02:43:59,360
don't know like I don't really I don't really know how to engage like I was like because it's like you're tweeting stuff and you're like just saying like like cheeky things it's like you know a little bit and then it seems like he's kind of full on like sort of writing the boys stuff yeah I know he wants to talk tomorrow so I just have to I'm gonna I'm going to be on stream I think maybe oh hell yeah but I just I need to like I just I've just been gone for like a month

2791
02:43:59,360 --> 02:44:09,720
and some change or kind of you need to lock in okay lock in lock yeah well I got it I gotta move but after that I'm locked in and I'm first

2792
02:44:09,720 --> 02:44:23,600
next coming over oh wait wait am I allowed to go to San Antonio canvassing where's where's where is it in San Antonio where's the where's the lady the lady what's her name

2793
02:44:23,600 --> 02:44:41,600
caddy the African American queen that works for a gg are you thinking of digital girl game the the one who lives in London now no she lives in the she lives in I think she lives in Texas actually she said she's on Texas

2794
02:44:41,600 --> 02:44:59,600
um die it's guy it's guy oh hi oh I think you have Sophie so I think last Sophie's what she's different she's different you can shut them selfie no she was talking shit though in the the

2795
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:05,520
The pot she was talking shit about I don't remember who I think it was like I don't remember she was talking shit

2796
02:45:05,520 --> 02:45:09,540
I was like what is she doing that for well, but it's nothing anyway. What's up? Where's where's kai at?

2797
02:45:09,540 --> 02:45:14,600
Where's kai? You just said that you know who you know more rather than I do is why the fuck would I know what?

2798
02:45:15,240 --> 02:45:19,680
No, what the fuck are you even talking about there? Is I just don't know what you're referring to I need to talk to Kai

2799
02:45:19,680 --> 02:45:21,680
I need to ask Kai if I can come to San Antonio

2800
02:45:21,680 --> 02:45:23,880
Okay, then DM her. What the fuck yeah, why are you?

2801
02:45:24,560 --> 02:45:29,880
Yeah, why are you saying it here like I just asked even I like oh this guy doesn't actually run

2802
02:45:29,880 --> 02:45:33,840
Anything well, you just kind of just shows up careful anything

2803
02:45:34,980 --> 02:45:36,640
Okay, I

2804
02:45:36,640 --> 02:45:39,120
Mean you don't get to say if I go or not. Are you sure?

2805
02:45:40,520 --> 02:45:42,520
I'm pretty sure on that. Okay

2806
02:45:43,480 --> 02:45:49,080
If Kai says yes, you should say no just a troll dearest nice if Kai so what

2807
02:45:51,560 --> 02:45:53,480
Because I do have the final say on anything so

2808
02:45:55,540 --> 02:45:57,540
You don't like that blood

2809
02:45:58,120 --> 02:46:00,120
Well, okay

2810
02:46:02,440 --> 02:46:04,440
You learn any new like sex tech

2811
02:46:05,440 --> 02:46:07,440
New sex tech

2812
02:46:07,980 --> 02:46:09,980
Yeah

2813
02:46:11,160 --> 02:46:13,160
I'm gonna try not I'm actually running out of moves

2814
02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:18,040
So I've I wanted to like look it up online, but I felt too corny at looking it up. So I

2815
02:46:18,840 --> 02:46:20,840
Said to do it himself

2816
02:46:23,920 --> 02:46:27,640
I don't know man, I'm 37. I feel like I know most of what I'm gonna know I can't think of anything new right now

2817
02:46:28,120 --> 02:46:33,240
It's definitely like new dude. They're making so many new devices like girls love rose toys and stuff now

2818
02:46:33,240 --> 02:46:36,840
I got one of those yeah, but you can't really use that while you're like fucking somebody or whatever

2819
02:46:38,080 --> 02:46:42,000
You can actually if you put them so if you I don't want to

2820
02:46:42,520 --> 02:46:46,080
You put on their side and then you know, it's the whole thing

2821
02:46:46,080 --> 02:46:51,960
But I think it's like that's like the sign is really complicated because like you have to be the right

2822
02:46:53,000 --> 02:46:58,360
Sizes or else it's really weird. It's like if the girls hips are in too wide. Yeah, I feel like if you're on the side

2823
02:46:58,360 --> 02:47:00,480
Because if girls hips are too wide you're in this like weird world

2824
02:47:00,480 --> 02:47:04,060
But you've got to like you're like thrushy like up in like to the side and you're like trying to like

2825
02:47:04,560 --> 02:47:09,280
Shot in like some gun caught a shit and it's just like what it's - I may be like a 12-inch dick

2826
02:47:09,280 --> 02:47:13,720
You do it. It's like that's like complicated shows too much. Yeah, unless it but if you're the right size

2827
02:47:13,720 --> 02:47:18,600
It's it works really well. There's a whole bunch of like different weird like laying on your side and all sorts of positions

2828
02:47:18,600 --> 02:47:22,360
But if you're not the right size is like it gets very annoying and complicated and then you're like father shit

2829
02:47:23,280 --> 02:47:26,280
Yeah, there's a whole descriptive thing I could draw for you

2830
02:47:26,280 --> 02:47:32,240
But I've actually figured out detecting it so it kind of works every time it has to do with like sides and then you use pillows

2831
02:47:32,240 --> 02:47:34,240
But then you're standing above them

2832
02:47:34,240 --> 02:47:38,080
But it's like it's not standing, but it's like it's a whole ordeal

2833
02:47:38,080 --> 02:47:40,080
I'd have to draw it for you for you to see

2834
02:47:42,320 --> 02:47:44,320
Yeah, you want to know virgin

2835
02:47:44,800 --> 02:47:46,800
So I'm trying to

2836
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:54,760
I'm just trying to I'm trying to learn something because you know, I'm just I can I feel like I'm like I don't know like

2837
02:47:55,280 --> 02:47:59,560
I'm just cuz I hit 30, but I'm just like I don't know I feel like I need to like

2838
02:48:00,520 --> 02:48:03,560
Like keep learning things or I'm gonna like you know

2839
02:48:03,560 --> 02:48:08,040
I don't know if you like you've been in a marriage is you know like you know, I don't want to lose flavor

2840
02:48:08,800 --> 02:48:13,000
Over time. I know what you mean, you know, so I'm trying buddy. Yeah, just gotta look at the latest memes

2841
02:48:13,000 --> 02:48:15,000
And you know try to do your best and pick up

2842
02:48:15,800 --> 02:48:19,800
Yeah, I've been actually I've been having using Twitter for that lately. I was trying to just scrolling down

2843
02:48:19,800 --> 02:48:22,080
I see something I'm like, okay, I don't see what's up there

2844
02:48:23,080 --> 02:48:26,960
You could do you could do an AI powered by sex activity

2845
02:48:29,640 --> 02:48:37,640
So actually I saw I see something else Stephen or someone talking about Claude today or I as soon as you or DRT or something

2846
02:48:38,400 --> 02:48:41,000
And I realized I need to get I need to get an actual AI

2847
02:48:41,560 --> 02:48:45,760
Like serve it together. I don't it was Claude the one that's the the best one

2848
02:48:46,600 --> 02:48:49,280
I'll also be working with me. So he's my friend

2849
02:48:50,680 --> 02:48:54,560
All right, then you set up Claude and do that because I just realized I just I was on a trip

2850
02:48:54,560 --> 02:48:56,080
And I was like I just missed out on so much

2851
02:48:56,080 --> 02:48:59,280
I could have probably done and I don't want to download tick-tock because I just get

2852
02:49:00,440 --> 02:49:06,440
Uncomfortable getting like kitty litter ads all the time every time I talk about getting a cat and it's just you know

2853
02:49:06,640 --> 02:49:11,800
So I'm I'm trying to you know use different services, but I'll get Claude or something

2854
02:49:11,800 --> 02:49:16,960
I'll just start plugging my stuff in there for sure, but yes, okay. I believe in you. Okay. All right, well

2855
02:49:17,440 --> 02:49:19,440
Are you going to San Antonio? Yeah, of course

2856
02:49:20,880 --> 02:49:22,880
Nice, well, then I'll see you in San Antonio

2857
02:49:23,640 --> 02:49:25,640
If I'm allowed to go

2858
02:49:27,640 --> 02:49:31,160
All right, bye guys wait per se wait per se you're driving with us to

2859
02:49:31,920 --> 02:49:33,920
the fucking thing, right

2860
02:49:35,560 --> 02:49:40,480
San Diego. Yeah, no. Yeah, you are okay. I go you know, we're doing it with honey, right? I

2861
02:49:41,600 --> 02:49:43,600
Have heard

2862
02:49:43,600 --> 02:49:45,600
Okay, also I

2863
02:49:46,120 --> 02:49:53,240
Have a I have a mariachi band plan for I don't want to say where but it's what did you if you actually found one message me?

2864
02:49:53,640 --> 02:49:58,520
Because nobody it was hard to get them to do what I wanted them to do unless you're talking about something totally different

2865
02:49:58,520 --> 02:50:00,520
Wait, you're talking about anything I said before I?

2866
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:01,680
- That's what you wanted them to do.

2867
02:50:01,680 --> 02:50:03,600
Well, I would have made the mariachi band.

2868
02:50:03,600 --> 02:50:08,600
I have me, persec, honey, my South American girlfriend

2869
02:50:09,480 --> 02:50:10,600
and I have another person.

2870
02:50:10,600 --> 02:50:12,360
That's enough for a mariachi band.

2871
02:50:12,360 --> 02:50:15,400
- Can any of you play horns or mariachi instruments?

2872
02:50:16,840 --> 02:50:20,000
We can rent them and we can figure it out.

2873
02:50:20,000 --> 02:50:22,280
If for the purposes that I wanna do it for,

2874
02:50:22,280 --> 02:50:25,440
it'll be better if we just learn on a spot.

2875
02:50:25,440 --> 02:50:26,280
- Okay.

2876
02:50:26,280 --> 02:50:28,240
- But I mean, that's what you're trying to do.

2877
02:50:28,240 --> 02:50:29,800
- The mariachi band?

2878
02:50:31,320 --> 02:50:33,120
- Just dude, it's, calm down.

2879
02:50:33,120 --> 02:50:36,200
Listen, just watch.

2880
02:50:36,200 --> 02:50:37,320
- Okay.

2881
02:50:37,320 --> 02:50:38,160
- All right.

2882
02:50:38,160 --> 02:50:39,000
- All right.

2883
02:50:39,000 --> 02:50:39,840
Bye.

2884
02:50:41,600 --> 02:50:43,200
- The fuck was that all about?

2885
02:50:43,200 --> 02:50:44,040
- I don't know.

2886
02:50:44,040 --> 02:50:45,040
- Penny on Northern Lion,

2887
02:50:45,040 --> 02:50:47,360
but after seeing this, I think he's a total loser.

2888
02:50:47,360 --> 02:50:48,800
- I'll just play the clip and watch.

2889
02:50:48,800 --> 02:50:50,280
- I don't really have much of an opinion

2890
02:50:50,280 --> 02:50:51,920
on Northern Lion, but after seeing this,

2891
02:50:51,920 --> 02:50:52,760
I think he's a total loser.

2892
02:50:52,760 --> 02:50:55,120
- I'll just play the clip and watch him.

2893
02:50:55,120 --> 02:50:55,960
- I did see that.

2894
02:50:55,960 --> 02:50:58,120
- A stream that he did with the army.

2895
02:50:58,120 --> 02:50:59,560
He's just unacceptable.

2896
02:50:59,560 --> 02:51:00,480
- Why?

2897
02:51:00,480 --> 02:51:01,560
He's a United States citizen,

2898
02:51:01,560 --> 02:51:03,120
and this is the United States military.

2899
02:51:03,120 --> 02:51:04,440
What makes this unacceptable?

2900
02:51:04,440 --> 02:51:05,520
- Why would an American have a problem

2901
02:51:05,520 --> 02:51:06,720
with the American military?

2902
02:51:06,720 --> 02:51:08,720
Isn't that literally his military?

2903
02:51:08,720 --> 02:51:10,280
- The United States Army is one of the best

2904
02:51:10,280 --> 02:51:12,520
and the greatest forces for good in the entire world.

2905
02:51:12,520 --> 02:51:15,040
- And making it look so awesome, and like--

2906
02:51:15,040 --> 02:51:15,880
- It is awesome.

2907
02:51:15,880 --> 02:51:17,440
You condemn the sword while sleeping under its protection.

2908
02:51:17,440 --> 02:51:18,280
Those who have jaw--

2909
02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:22,560
- If I was really principled on this fucking politics bullshit

2910
02:51:22,560 --> 02:51:24,280
and about how like, oh, it's not, it's kind of,

2911
02:51:24,280 --> 02:51:25,200
it's not a principled position.

2912
02:51:25,200 --> 02:51:27,200
If you're not willing to fucking do

2913
02:51:27,200 --> 02:51:29,360
what needs to be done to the advance of political,

2914
02:51:29,360 --> 02:51:30,360
blah, blah, blah, blah.

2915
02:51:30,360 --> 02:51:32,120
If I was anything like Hassan, me and Asmigal

2916
02:51:32,120 --> 02:51:33,200
would be fucking best friends.

2917
02:51:33,200 --> 02:51:35,760
Holy shit, there would be,

2918
02:51:35,760 --> 02:51:38,640
that would be the fucking doomsday alliance.

2919
02:51:38,640 --> 02:51:40,120
If I was on some, if I was trying to be on some

2920
02:51:40,120 --> 02:51:41,280
real fuck shit.

2921
02:51:42,360 --> 02:51:43,440
- You'd be married.

2922
02:51:43,440 --> 02:51:44,800
- What?

2923
02:51:44,800 --> 02:51:46,480
- You'd be married.

2924
02:51:46,480 --> 02:51:47,640
- To our Tasmanian.

2925
02:51:48,800 --> 02:51:50,040
True.

2926
02:51:50,040 --> 02:51:50,960
- Violence can only do so

2927
02:51:50,960 --> 02:51:52,440
because others commit violence on their behalf.

2928
02:51:52,440 --> 02:51:53,280
- George Orwell.

2929
02:51:53,280 --> 02:51:54,120
- People are against the government,

2930
02:51:54,120 --> 02:51:55,960
even though the government says it's keeping them safe.

2931
02:51:55,960 --> 02:51:58,640
This is exactly what George Orwell was warning us about.

2932
02:51:58,640 --> 02:52:00,400
So I have a problem where, over the years,

2933
02:52:00,400 --> 02:52:01,600
I've tried not to get too close to things

2934
02:52:01,600 --> 02:52:02,920
to feel like petty online drama

2935
02:52:02,920 --> 02:52:04,800
because I'm just sensing myself getting pulled into it

2936
02:52:04,800 --> 02:52:06,120
and I know I'll end up wasting a lot of energy

2937
02:52:06,120 --> 02:52:07,680
on things that probably don't matter that much.

2938
02:52:07,680 --> 02:52:08,840
Also, I think the subject of this video

2939
02:52:08,840 --> 02:52:10,880
is a growing problem related to things I've said before.

2940
02:52:10,880 --> 02:52:12,520
And also Destiny and Asmon Gold are dumb

2941
02:52:12,520 --> 02:52:13,360
in a really special way.

2942
02:52:13,360 --> 02:52:14,200
So I'm gonna talk--

2943
02:52:14,200 --> 02:52:17,880
- Like, how hard does it just have a good faith

2944
02:52:17,880 --> 02:52:19,000
take on anything?

2945
02:52:19,000 --> 02:52:22,720
Like, if you are grouping me and Asmon Gold together

2946
02:52:22,720 --> 02:52:24,080
in terms of political belief,

2947
02:52:24,080 --> 02:52:26,480
you have just lost the plot.

2948
02:52:26,480 --> 02:52:30,520
You have lost your soul lost in terms of your ability

2949
02:52:30,520 --> 02:52:33,000
to navigate the world and understand what's happening.

2950
02:52:33,000 --> 02:52:33,840
- Wait, what?

2951
02:52:33,840 --> 02:52:35,760
You don't believe in shooting migrant children?

2952
02:52:35,760 --> 02:52:37,680
- Yes, only the Palestinian ones apparently.

2953
02:52:37,680 --> 02:52:39,680
That's why you're asking us to shoot.

2954
02:52:39,680 --> 02:52:42,280
So fucking cringe, all right.

2955
02:52:42,280 --> 02:52:44,280
- Look a bit about that, anyway.

2956
02:52:44,280 --> 02:52:45,600
Northern Lion is what I would call

2957
02:52:45,600 --> 02:52:46,920
the most normal man on the internet.

2958
02:52:46,920 --> 02:52:47,760
- Let's kill this guy.

2959
02:52:47,760 --> 02:52:48,600
Let's beat him to death with hammers.

2960
02:52:48,600 --> 02:52:49,440
Wait 90 minutes till they come

2961
02:52:49,440 --> 02:52:50,560
until you drink your first cup of coffee.

2962
02:52:50,560 --> 02:52:51,400
Nothing will stop you.

2963
02:52:51,400 --> 02:52:52,280
Did you duct tape your mouth?

2964
02:52:52,280 --> 02:52:54,120
When you fall asleep, nothing can stop you get it twisted.

2965
02:52:54,120 --> 02:52:56,080
You are a pawn in a universe chess match.

2966
02:52:56,080 --> 02:52:57,600
- You think you lured me into the maze?

2967
02:52:57,600 --> 02:52:58,760
I'm the Minotaur.

2968
02:52:59,600 --> 02:53:00,440
You don't know anything else.

2969
02:53:00,440 --> 02:53:01,280
Alice in Loman is in.

2970
02:53:01,280 --> 02:53:02,120
- Not in the sense that the words

2971
02:53:02,120 --> 02:53:03,080
that come out of his mouth are normal,

2972
02:53:03,080 --> 02:53:05,160
but the standards for YouTubers are really not very high.

2973
02:53:05,160 --> 02:53:07,080
In general, online, what you'll notice is a lot of freaks

2974
02:53:07,080 --> 02:53:09,040
and weirdos like myself tend to rise to the surface

2975
02:53:09,040 --> 02:53:09,960
much like Scum does.

2976
02:53:09,960 --> 02:53:12,000
Because we are functionally the power users of the internet,

2977
02:53:12,000 --> 02:53:13,080
the people who are always there,

2978
02:53:13,080 --> 02:53:15,040
surveilling every conversation that happens online,

2979
02:53:15,040 --> 02:53:16,280
tracking discourse endlessly,

2980
02:53:16,280 --> 02:53:17,520
usually at the expense of a few

2981
02:53:17,520 --> 02:53:19,640
or even most basic social and physical needs.

2982
02:53:19,640 --> 02:53:20,480
It's actually foreshadowed.

2983
02:53:20,480 --> 02:53:22,240
By definition, people without lives outside the internet

2984
02:53:22,240 --> 02:53:23,320
are always gonna have the advantage

2985
02:53:23,320 --> 02:53:24,840
in controlling the environment within it.

2986
02:53:24,840 --> 02:53:27,240
Another lion does silent 90-minute Peloton rides instead,

2987
02:53:27,240 --> 02:53:28,080
and I just think that's great.

2988
02:53:28,080 --> 02:53:28,920
- I fucked up, man.

2989
02:53:28,920 --> 02:53:30,720
I did a 90-minute ride knowing all the music.

2990
02:53:30,720 --> 02:53:32,560
Just thinking and staring at the screen

2991
02:53:32,560 --> 02:53:34,240
like a fucking mental patient, man.

2992
02:53:34,240 --> 02:53:35,520
- The guy treats being an influencer

2993
02:53:35,520 --> 02:53:37,560
in the manner of a 1950s union worker.

2994
02:53:37,560 --> 02:53:39,320
The man simply puts the ball in the car.

2995
02:53:39,320 --> 02:53:40,680
- Okay.

2996
02:53:40,680 --> 02:53:43,080
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

2997
02:53:43,080 --> 02:53:43,920
We go again.

2998
02:53:43,920 --> 02:53:44,880
- He's online personality that clocks in,

2999
02:53:44,880 --> 02:53:46,600
entertains people for a few hours, clocks out,

3000
02:53:46,600 --> 02:53:47,960
and spends the rest of his time with his loved ones.

3001
02:53:47,960 --> 02:53:49,840
Something I'll admit, as a fellow dad YouTuber,

3002
02:53:49,840 --> 02:53:51,040
I've always found quite reassuring.

3003
02:53:51,040 --> 02:53:52,920
The idea that it's fully possible to treat this space

3004
02:53:52,920 --> 02:53:54,320
as a job you can step away from

3005
02:53:54,320 --> 02:53:56,680
and still be a present and act of father.

3006
02:53:56,680 --> 02:53:57,720
Anyway, he's not really any kind of

3007
02:53:57,720 --> 02:53:58,920
political activist figure.

3008
02:53:58,920 --> 02:54:00,680
He is basically absent on all social media

3009
02:54:00,680 --> 02:54:02,640
and rarely ever gets involved in any online controversy.

3010
02:54:02,640 --> 02:54:04,480
I think actually the only real controversy he'd had

3011
02:54:04,480 --> 02:54:05,720
was a few months ago when he canceled

3012
02:54:05,720 --> 02:54:07,920
a special event cruise for his subscribers.

3013
02:54:07,920 --> 02:54:10,560
Which, I mean, as far as controversies on the internet go,

3014
02:54:10,560 --> 02:54:13,360
I think not having a boat party has to be a bit long.

3015
02:54:13,360 --> 02:54:14,720
And then millions of people got really mad

3016
02:54:14,720 --> 02:54:16,600
at him for political reasons.

3017
02:54:16,600 --> 02:54:18,760
Would you like to guess why people were upset?

3018
02:54:18,760 --> 02:54:21,340
(upbeat music)

3019
02:54:22,400 --> 02:54:23,240
(beep)

3020
02:54:23,240 --> 02:54:24,160
By the way, did you know Warner Brothers

3021
02:54:24,160 --> 02:54:26,520
and Warner Music Group are actually legally distinct entities?

3022
02:54:26,520 --> 02:54:27,600
And I'm an idiot.

3023
02:54:27,600 --> 02:54:29,360
Did you know my video Warner Music Group took down

3024
02:54:29,360 --> 02:54:31,120
was actually sponsored by Obscura?

3025
02:54:31,120 --> 02:54:32,200
Well, it was, and they were really nice about it.

3026
02:54:32,200 --> 02:54:33,240
When I said the thing they paid for

3027
02:54:33,240 --> 02:54:34,560
was probably going to get the lead off the internet.

3028
02:54:34,560 --> 02:54:36,160
So I will personally endorse them as a service.

3029
02:54:36,160 --> 02:54:37,840
Does he have a little on his face?

3030
02:54:37,840 --> 02:54:39,920
He looks so shiny and sweaty.

3031
02:54:41,280 --> 02:54:43,280
Yeah, probably a little bit sweaty

3032
02:54:43,280 --> 02:54:47,960
and probably a single key light with no other lighting

3033
02:54:47,960 --> 02:54:49,200
that is not diffused at all.

3034
02:54:49,200 --> 02:54:52,120
So harsh light plus a little bit sweaty means

3035
02:54:52,120 --> 02:54:55,240
going to look very, very, very shiny for video.

3036
02:54:55,240 --> 02:54:56,080
It also was people.

3037
02:54:56,080 --> 02:54:57,200
This year is a small independent company

3038
02:54:57,200 --> 02:54:58,840
that doesn't work like other traditional VPNs

3039
02:54:58,840 --> 02:55:00,800
with a rapid increase of websites and apps.

3040
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:02,240
demanding your name, number, face, and other private information.

3041
02:55:02,240 --> 02:55:03,840
Skira provides you an extra layer of privacy.

3042
02:55:03,840 --> 02:55:06,560
The cryptographically catalogued link who you are to what you're doing online thanks to their

3043
02:55:06,560 --> 02:55:10,080
two-party architecture and blends your traffic in a way that will get other similar VPNs blocked.

3044
02:55:10,080 --> 02:55:13,200
It's open source and has a built-in ad and online tracker so you can control exactly what

3045
02:55:13,200 --> 02:55:14,720
gets blocked and allowed on a side-by-side basis.

3046
02:55:14,720 --> 02:55:17,040
This is the last one to me, they even launched Obscura for Windows and Linux,

3047
02:55:17,040 --> 02:55:20,000
a bunch of of iOS, MacOS, and Android giving you even more options to protect yourself

3048
02:55:20,000 --> 02:55:21,280
and get around government censorship.

3049
02:55:21,280 --> 02:55:24,640
And if you go to skira.com/saints or scan the QR code on screen,

3050
02:55:24,640 --> 02:55:27,520
you'll get 25% offer subscription for only $6 a month.

3051
02:55:27,520 --> 02:55:29,280
Thank you to Obscura for sponsoring this video.

3052
02:55:29,280 --> 02:55:31,360
Dan Geesling was in a season of traitors I watched.

3053
02:55:32,640 --> 02:55:33,040
Just me?

3054
02:55:34,560 --> 02:55:37,920
Okay, aside from that, he is also a full-time streamer and notable in this case for being

3055
02:55:37,920 --> 02:55:40,160
one of the closest online personalities to Northern Lion.

3056
02:55:40,160 --> 02:55:42,640
Frequently collaborating with him and his partner Kay, also a streamer,

3057
02:55:42,640 --> 02:55:44,480
as well as being a longtime personal friend of both.

3058
02:55:44,480 --> 02:55:46,640
Recently, he got in trouble with his audience after making the decision

3059
02:55:46,640 --> 02:55:49,360
despite having a strict no-politics rule in his own community

3060
02:55:49,360 --> 02:55:53,200
to host a week-long promotional recruitment campaign in cooperation with the US Army,

3061
02:55:53,200 --> 02:55:55,440
where he encouraged viewers to enlist while carrying out a series of

3062
02:55:55,440 --> 02:55:58,800
fun Army-themed challenges, including a drone-building competition.

3063
02:56:03,360 --> 02:56:05,600
Dan did not agree that this violated the no-politics rule.

3064
02:56:05,600 --> 02:56:07,920
It is political the US Army works for the government, that's your opinion.

3065
02:56:07,920 --> 02:56:10,480
And so I understand why you're upset, I didn't see it like that going into it.

3066
02:56:10,480 --> 02:56:13,120
You can't make a no-politics rule and then support a political organization.

3067
02:56:13,120 --> 02:56:14,480
And that's where we don't see eye to eye.

3068
02:56:14,480 --> 02:56:16,480
I didn't see it as a political statement sponsored by the government.

3069
02:56:16,480 --> 02:56:19,520
You cannot be defined as a political, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it.

3070
02:56:19,520 --> 02:56:22,720
The cost relationship between the US government and its military is one of those things is

3071
02:56:22,720 --> 02:56:25,920
hard to explain without sounding like you're treating the person you're explaining it to like an idiot.

3072
02:56:25,920 --> 02:56:28,960
To put it simply, I'm going to draw from one of the questions I got on my US citizenship test.

3073
02:56:29,520 --> 02:56:31,120
They're actually controlled by the same guy.

3074
02:56:31,120 --> 02:56:34,720
No more electric tanks, no more gender confusion, no more climate change worship.

3075
02:56:34,720 --> 02:56:37,120
We are laser-focused on our mission of warfighting.

3076
02:56:37,120 --> 02:56:40,240
You may have noticed in the last few years, a significant rise in direct military propaganda

3077
02:56:40,240 --> 02:56:43,680
and recruitment content put out, especially online, maybe even in the ad breaks of this video.

3078
02:56:43,680 --> 02:56:45,280
Sorry about that, I literally can't turn them on.

3079
02:56:45,280 --> 02:56:48,240
Over his past two terms as president, Trump and his administration have repeatedly

3080
02:56:48,240 --> 02:56:51,200
wielded the US military in ways that violate both the will of Americans

3081
02:56:51,200 --> 02:56:54,160
and also pretty much everyone else in the world that doesn't own an oil company.

3082
02:56:54,160 --> 02:56:57,280
You might have heard about this illegal invasion that's happening that made gas prices go up.

3083
02:56:57,280 --> 02:57:00,240
An ongoing terror campaign that has already led to the deaths of thousands of innocent people

3084
02:57:00,240 --> 02:57:04,160
prompted another refugee crisis and financially devastated literally billions of people in ways

3085
02:57:04,160 --> 02:57:06,240
that will take successive governments decades to recover from.

3086
02:57:06,240 --> 02:57:09,840
Recovery which will not happen because they were already massive geopolitical problems Trump

3087
02:57:09,840 --> 02:57:13,520
has chosen to lie about downplay and even violently suppress in the general public.

3088
02:57:13,520 --> 02:57:15,920
That's the other thing the desperate drive for military recruitment has gone to.

3089
02:57:15,920 --> 02:57:19,680
Retalling the National Guard as a kind of personal security force for Trump to intimidate the public

3090
02:57:19,680 --> 02:57:23,440
and protect his masked agents as a kidnap, murder and brutalize more innocent people

3091
02:57:23,440 --> 02:57:25,280
often without cause in front of their own families.

3092
02:57:29,200 --> 02:57:34,320
Trying to remember, was Alex pretty killed by an ice person or a national guardsman?

3093
02:57:35,360 --> 02:57:36,400
Ice person.

3094
02:57:36,400 --> 02:57:37,680
Are you 100% on that?

3095
02:57:38,560 --> 02:57:39,520
100%?

3096
02:57:39,520 --> 02:57:39,760
Okay.

3097
02:57:41,040 --> 02:57:42,000
Beyond the shadow of a doubt.

3098
02:57:43,440 --> 02:57:45,360
Because retooled the National Guard.

3099
02:57:45,360 --> 02:57:48,240
I know that he deployed the National Guard to DC but I'm pretty sure all they basically

3100
02:57:48,240 --> 02:57:52,560
do just sit around and do nothing. I'm not aware of any big scandals involving the National Guard.

3101
02:57:52,560 --> 02:57:53,120
Have there been?

3102
02:57:55,040 --> 02:57:59,440
Um, I think one of them was shot at some point.

3103
02:57:59,440 --> 02:58:02,080
Sure but I don't think like there have been stories of like the National Guard has done

3104
02:58:02,080 --> 02:58:03,200
this horrible terrible thing.

3105
02:58:04,160 --> 02:58:05,600
No they're typically disciplined.

3106
02:58:05,600 --> 02:58:07,040
Yeah and they just yeah okay.

3107
02:58:07,600 --> 02:58:10,160
Wait wait was there any Alex Pready investigation?

3108
02:58:11,920 --> 02:58:12,480
You kidnapped.

3109
02:58:12,480 --> 02:58:13,840
Wait actually just nothing?

3110
02:58:13,840 --> 02:58:15,200
No no nothing.

3111
02:58:15,200 --> 02:58:19,440
Or Rene good, that's yeah that's probably some of the worst things that have ever happened in

3112
02:58:19,440 --> 02:58:21,760
US history but yeah that's what I'm saying.

3113
02:58:21,760 --> 02:58:23,200
That's okay that's.

3114
02:58:23,200 --> 02:58:25,920
Or innocent people often without cause in front of their own families.

3115
02:58:25,920 --> 02:58:28,160
As well as of course any citizens who oppose them.

3116
02:58:28,160 --> 02:58:30,000
Sounds traitorous to me but what do I know?

3117
02:58:30,000 --> 02:58:33,520
He also threatens to annex Canada which I understand would be an extra concern for

3118
02:58:33,520 --> 02:58:34,720
Northern Lyon as a Canadian.

3119
02:58:34,720 --> 02:58:39,120
Probably didn't even have to read between the lions to know how I felt about the US army.

3120
02:58:39,120 --> 02:58:42,400
I've heard people say like well he lives in a country that's actively being threatened

3121
02:58:42,400 --> 02:58:45,520
to be like annexed by the United States and that's true.

3122
02:58:45,520 --> 02:58:48,160
Like that's one thing there's people that are getting it a lot worse than that.

3123
02:58:48,160 --> 02:58:50,880
Canadian Canadian for Hayden your shit military headed by a man threatening their country.

3124
02:58:50,880 --> 02:58:52,320
If you're a retarded lefty that is super innocent.

3125
02:58:52,320 --> 02:58:53,600
I don't care what your opinion is about anything.

3126
02:58:53,600 --> 02:58:55,520
Okay I'm going to do 20 military ads now just despite you.

3127
02:58:55,520 --> 02:58:57,600
It's a situation because what he did.

3128
02:58:57,600 --> 02:58:58,160
True.

3129
02:58:58,160 --> 02:59:01,120
And it's a complicated situation and I'm just going to speak to you like adults

3130
02:59:01,120 --> 02:59:04,960
but on a personal level it's really it's really complicated.

3131
02:59:04,960 --> 02:59:08,000
So both him and Kate made what I think for anyone would be a difficult decision.

3132
02:59:08,000 --> 02:59:11,520
Realizing someone they were close to both personally and professionally was making the choice

3133
02:59:11,520 --> 02:59:15,200
to take an active role in an authoritarian political project doing untold harm to millions of people.

3134
02:59:15,200 --> 02:59:17,280
Seeing that the guy had no intention to walk back that role

3135
02:59:17,280 --> 02:59:19,120
I made it clear they did not associate with it.

3136
02:59:19,120 --> 02:59:21,760
I feel like I'm on curb your enthusiasm.

3137
02:59:21,760 --> 02:59:24,640
Where it's like the first domino is like I want to play some Isaac.

3138
02:59:24,640 --> 02:59:27,760
And then like the big domino is like I'm denouncing the United States army.

3139
02:59:27,760 --> 02:59:29,120
And it's a it's a joke.

3140
02:59:29,120 --> 02:59:32,240
Like the whole thing is absurd but also it's serious.

3141
02:59:32,240 --> 02:59:33,760
Like it's it's very real.

3142
02:59:33,760 --> 02:59:36,480
And you know it's real because they're I mean this is where they're doing their marketing.

3143
02:59:36,480 --> 02:59:38,800
A lot of people would tell you that you can't have a conversation like this.

3144
02:59:39,680 --> 02:59:42,240
And trust me in most circumstances I would rather not in this environment.

3145
02:59:42,240 --> 02:59:45,920
Oh sorry Alex predian Renee were killed by border patrol not ice which I think are under

3146
02:59:45,920 --> 02:59:48,880
the primary homeland security but it wasn't ice per se it was the border patrol people.

3147
02:59:48,880 --> 02:59:52,240
But okay I remember but you know the fact that I had to be done.

3148
02:59:52,240 --> 02:59:55,200
And investigation were attempted by local officials but were blocked by the FBI.

3149
02:59:55,200 --> 02:59:58,640
But yeah the issue is that I think typically you see a high level of coordination because

3150
02:59:58,640 --> 02:59:59,920
the FBI are going to have all the information.

3151
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:05,920
And they would have to cooperate local officials, but the FBI just said fuck you Trump said fuck you and fuck fuck you

3152
03:00:05,920 --> 03:00:06,960
I guess yeah

3153
03:00:06,960 --> 03:00:08,960
You guys won't count as ice

3154
03:00:09,680 --> 03:00:12,080
No, they're different technically the different I can

3155
03:00:13,040 --> 03:00:18,380
Is a is a very positive thing you're saying something because your audience captured and you're afraid of losing viewers are being seen in a different way

3156
03:00:18,380 --> 03:00:23,400
You're so audience captured you wouldn't dare speak out against the people upset in your audience about the situation

3157
03:00:23,400 --> 03:00:28,040
They're always fucking cowards every streamers. Don't man. Why are you fucking loving me with these motherfuckers? God damn?

3158
03:00:29,640 --> 03:00:32,120
what's more efficient putting

3159
03:00:33,040 --> 03:00:37,160
Eight full glass and then making colored glass panes or coloring the glass panes

3160
03:00:38,320 --> 03:00:42,520
The fucking car when it comes to their audience. Look how pathetic that is what a cock I know and I'm gonna show you everything

3161
03:00:42,520 --> 03:00:44,520
We're gonna think you can color the glass panes

3162
03:00:45,080 --> 03:00:47,720
It turns out if you don't have a spine and you know wait maybe you can

3163
03:00:50,120 --> 03:00:55,480
You have a portion of a cringe woke audience suddenly you find yourself in trouble over several days push mainly by destiny

3164
03:00:55,480 --> 03:00:59,480
And then later by much larger stream of asthma gold this entire situation was refrained to millions as

3165
03:00:59,640 --> 03:01:03,680
A kind of spineless cowardly act by northern lion and keg let your communities and the winds of the internet bully you're

3166
03:01:04,600 --> 03:01:09,920
Going to go through it turns out if you don't have a spine and you have a portion of a cringe woke audience suddenly you find yourself in trouble

3167
03:01:09,920 --> 03:01:15,080
It was several days was made by destiny and never mind. He's the guy. I thought that was sleepy. No, no, no

3168
03:01:17,080 --> 03:01:23,440
Yeah, larger stream of asthma gold this entire situation was refrained to millions as a kind of spineless cowardly act by northern lion and keg

3169
03:01:23,440 --> 03:01:26,560
Let your communities and the winds of the internet bully you around to whatever positions are popular at that particular moment

3170
03:01:26,560 --> 03:01:29,560
I'm and I'm just like every night knowing that you are an absolute spineless cock who has no principles or values

3171
03:01:29,560 --> 03:01:32,500
You wanna stand on ever like give the video chance, but you have nasty disgusting

3172
03:01:33,400 --> 03:01:35,640
Underbody lion who's sitting there in chat

3173
03:01:35,640 --> 03:01:39,800
But he's so audience captured and afraid of his own viewers that the moment that his viewers dislike it

3174
03:01:39,800 --> 03:01:42,960
He has to do a cam off crying stream. It's steeped like head to toe

3175
03:01:43,880 --> 03:01:46,120
Is he crying? It's actually crying. It's not sad

3176
03:01:46,920 --> 03:01:52,620
So pathetic. I mean it's it's almost so absurd what a rat. I know you make northern rat cry

3177
03:01:53,000 --> 03:02:00,960
Because he's so audience captured. He has to do a cry stream forced to betray their friend as a result of audience capture by the omnipresent horde of Wokusan viewers

3178
03:02:00,960 --> 03:02:05,560
This may be their community like first time like budding heads with fucking psychopaths like a son's community

3179
03:02:05,560 --> 03:02:08,960
It's a son. They're just doing it because of a son. I know her son had no involvement in this situation

3180
03:02:08,960 --> 03:02:12,960
But yeah, it's on has to think it over. I know a streaming streamer northern lion and it's somehow involved a son

3181
03:02:12,960 --> 03:02:16,480
I swear to God every fucking thing in the world is tied together by this one evil force

3182
03:02:16,480 --> 03:02:18,800
It's actually insane strong enough to hold up hold the gates

3183
03:02:18,800 --> 03:02:22,640
Yeah, but I mean it sounds community essentially runs every like the that political affiliation runs everything on Twitch

3184
03:02:22,640 --> 03:02:26,080
That's outside of like the asthma gold thing turns out. He has fallen victim to the witch hunt

3185
03:02:26,080 --> 03:02:31,680
I think even his community were making comments on it, right? But I mean like I don't know if like there are

3186
03:02:33,040 --> 03:02:38,480
This does feel so stupid even say so obviously like there is obviously a political bend on twitch

3187
03:02:38,480 --> 03:02:43,760
And that bend is obviously like the lunatic crazy lefties. I mean like I don't know this

3188
03:02:43,920 --> 03:02:50,800
I guess it's super obvious. I mean like you when I had fucking what's his name? Northern Lions chat open like when I was covering this

3189
03:02:50,800 --> 03:02:57,680
It was like full of people just non-stop spamming the Hassan El emote like over and over again like they absolutely

3190
03:02:59,560 --> 03:03:03,040
You even sound crazy and like this person is trying to make you sound crazy

3191
03:03:03,040 --> 03:03:08,560
Which is completely fucking ridiculous. It's just the reality of the situation and they just don't want to like open their eyes and look at it

3192
03:03:08,560 --> 03:03:11,280
It's stupid. Yeah, like also like

3193
03:03:11,760 --> 03:03:16,240
And again, it was interesting to me and all these other fucking cringy weirdo internet people actually I'm so sorry

3194
03:03:16,240 --> 03:03:20,000
It's not because actually fuck. I don't want to be only with us and go but actually I would say they're similar to this

3195
03:03:20,320 --> 03:03:25,520
I think that northern lion. I just don't like him with people given to their communities on dumb shit like this

3196
03:03:25,760 --> 03:03:27,920
I think it was fine for him to be uncomfortable with the ad

3197
03:03:27,920 --> 03:03:32,560
But I think he definitely overplayed the fuck out of it because his community was having a visceral fucking reaction

3198
03:03:32,560 --> 03:03:37,520
Just like on the fucking cruise thing and I think that he got way more into that than he would have ever been otherwise

3199
03:03:37,520 --> 03:03:40,960
I think maybe he would have expressed some discomfort personally, but he knew the ad was coming

3200
03:03:40,960 --> 03:03:45,520
It's not that's why I bring up that whoa thing not that like he wasn't allowed to not like it to be uncomfortable

3201
03:03:45,520 --> 03:03:48,960
But like clearly he wasn't so fucking bothered by it at that point, but also

3202
03:03:50,160 --> 03:03:54,800
I still think northern lion is a fine streamer. I think he's a funny dude. I don't think he's a horrible human being

3203
03:03:54,800 --> 03:03:57,040
I don't think he's like ruined his whole life. I don't think I don't wish on it

3204
03:03:57,040 --> 03:04:00,560
I don't pray on his fucking downfall or watch every day and caught and whatever. I saw this

3205
03:04:00,560 --> 03:04:06,080
I just don't like it when streamers aren't willing to take like a slightly unpopular stance against a community because they're so

3206
03:04:06,880 --> 03:04:10,960
Bent into the giving into fucking every whatever the political hob button topic is

3207
03:04:12,000 --> 03:04:18,000
Those price and he probably stress and effected himself into having like a larger reaction from his community

3208
03:04:18,240 --> 03:04:21,680
Then he actually had it by doing that maybe yeah

3209
03:04:22,080 --> 03:04:28,320
Currently, there is the woke 2.0 mob going around canceling literally everybody trying to bully everyone into taking a political stance

3210
03:04:28,400 --> 03:04:31,760
This obviously happened to add sheer responses about but the response room from dan was the final nail on coffee

3211
03:04:31,760 --> 03:04:34,000
I pressed it out like Ed Sheeran's response wasn't good enough either

3212
03:04:34,000 --> 03:04:43,760
I think this drama was what encouraged I think a couple people in the dgg community to like make

3213
03:04:43,760 --> 03:04:48,160
little auto plugins to pull what communities people are coming from there were so much

3214
03:04:48,160 --> 03:04:54,400
outro turfing and lsf especially from hasan and weird socialist types online it was crazy

3215
03:04:55,840 --> 03:04:59,840
Texted out like Ed Sheeran's response wasn't good enough either. Yeah, okay. I think this guy is a pathetic

3216
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:04,840
I didn't really know a lot about Northern lion. I didn't know somebody could be this big of a bitch

3217
03:05:04,840 --> 03:05:06,800
I think the Northern lion's wife probably hated Dan

3218
03:05:06,800 --> 03:05:09,180
And I think Northern lion is using this as a fucking just way to get out

3219
03:05:09,180 --> 03:05:12,520
Oh, it was his wife his wife made into it. I know I don't know anything about their relationship

3220
03:05:12,520 --> 03:05:16,060
But it was his wife is wife made another benefit of having a conservative wife well like wasn't that the

3221
03:05:16,720 --> 03:05:20,040
Didn't she make comments on this publicly like she did like a whole stream as well

3222
03:05:20,040 --> 03:05:24,240
I don't remember what that was found out, but there was a reason why I don't think we didn't just hate some women

3223
03:05:24,240 --> 03:05:26,480
Well, my hey, what there was a reason why

3224
03:05:27,280 --> 03:05:32,340
Some people were speculating that but whatever you would never have to take her lead on anything when it comes to canceling things

3225
03:05:32,340 --> 03:05:35,880
He's like my friend, you know, and then it's like this is like this is okay

3226
03:05:35,880 --> 03:05:41,700
I'm clearly being sarcastic here. I don't know if the if that he was trying to tell you I know that I'm like actually pro

3227
03:05:41,920 --> 03:05:47,120
I just like dating or marrying conservative women so they don't have to have an opinion on anything in your life

3228
03:05:47,120 --> 03:05:49,120
But like okay base I guess

3229
03:05:49,120 --> 03:06:00,460
Real I guess you're trying to think of a way that impacts anybody's like this is for real like for people like for people

3230
03:06:00,460 --> 03:06:02,200
I almost feel like I'm opposed to going like well, of course

3231
03:06:02,200 --> 03:06:06,000
I hate the US Army they're threatening to take over my country well like they're actively like what at war with

3232
03:06:06,560 --> 03:06:10,640
Overseas with and with their own citizens. What? Oh God. I think he's mixing up

3233
03:06:13,360 --> 03:06:21,160
Maybe the National Guard being deployed DC. I'm being really charitable here. Oh homeland security and the military and they're like being deployed to the same place

3234
03:06:21,160 --> 03:06:25,440
I just don't know how that could be connected, but I really want to be charitable to you. I

3235
03:06:26,520 --> 03:06:29,200
Understand again, I shouldn't be charitable this guy

3236
03:06:29,200 --> 03:06:32,480
I know that civics is not our strong point in the United States of America

3237
03:06:32,840 --> 03:06:36,000
The National Guard is the military, okay?

3238
03:06:36,640 --> 03:06:39,520
When you're talking about like border patrol and you're talking about like ice

3239
03:06:40,000 --> 03:06:44,820
Immigrations and customs enforcement these people are it's a whole different branch of people

3240
03:06:46,120 --> 03:06:49,080
Not that any of them should be allowed to kill US citizens

3241
03:06:49,280 --> 03:06:51,920
But like if we got to the point to where like the National Guard

3242
03:06:51,920 --> 03:06:56,360
I mean like I hate that I even say it's crazy because even ice shouldn't be fucking killing US

3243
03:06:56,360 --> 03:07:00,880
It's like the National Guard was trying to take orders from Trump and like doing some insanely crazy fuck shit

3244
03:07:02,120 --> 03:07:04,600
It's bad, but it's like another level of

3245
03:07:05,680 --> 03:07:08,960
That's a that's another level of super duper bad, but they're not the same

3246
03:07:08,960 --> 03:07:14,400
But I guess for this guy any federal person who's like an agent or an officer or whatever is

3247
03:07:14,720 --> 03:07:20,000
Yeah, wait you pushed back on Mutin saying that also the clips he's using are all from the intro of the video

3248
03:07:20,000 --> 03:07:22,000
I don't think he's actually watched it

3249
03:07:23,800 --> 03:07:27,200
This is what they all said I was like I was days late to this drama, too

3250
03:07:27,200 --> 03:07:32,760
Like I'm pretty sure asman clown and all these people had already massively covered it way before I even staked out a position on this

3251
03:07:32,760 --> 03:07:34,760
Okay, whatever

3252
03:07:35,360 --> 03:07:37,360
Yeah

3253
03:07:39,320 --> 03:07:41,880
Destiny look at the headlines. It's about the National Guard

3254
03:07:41,960 --> 03:07:48,840
Well, there were issues because Trump was deploying the National Guard to places. That's true and that's bad

3255
03:07:49,240 --> 03:07:56,200
That is true and that's bad, but the fuck behavior from what I understand has all come from ice and stuff under

3256
03:07:56,640 --> 03:08:02,160
The DHS so for instance, I think they they deployed the fucking Marines

3257
03:08:02,160 --> 03:08:06,120
I think they tried to California. That's we had the people sleeping before we're just cringing horrible

3258
03:08:06,840 --> 03:08:13,560
But when there were people outside of the venue where Newsome was that was ice which was weird and not okay

3259
03:08:13,560 --> 03:08:16,360
That was crazy, but it was ice. It wasn't the National Guard

3260
03:08:17,200 --> 03:08:20,320
Which it is I can't even believe that we have to distinguish this because

3261
03:08:22,000 --> 03:08:25,800
None of this should ever be happening because holy fuck, but Jesus

3262
03:08:31,960 --> 03:08:33,960
Like compare the clips you just went over

3263
03:08:34,800 --> 03:08:40,400
Wait, what you're gonna be like we'll take it up with it because that's why can't you though? Isn't that actually like a super fuck why

3264
03:08:41,120 --> 03:08:47,280
Marines of everyone who are gonna citizens until the LA riots in 2025. Okay, the LA riots, which were like

3265
03:08:48,120 --> 03:08:52,120
One day of like not much happening right not to excuse riots. Trust me. Huh?

3266
03:08:53,240 --> 03:08:57,080
Nobody hates riots more than I do. Okay, I'm the famous right-hater guy on the right-house guy, but

3267
03:08:58,160 --> 03:09:00,160
Compared to the clips used to the clips in the intro

3268
03:09:00,920 --> 03:09:02,920
This is what they all said

3269
03:09:04,800 --> 03:09:06,800
Oh, no, no

3270
03:09:09,520 --> 03:09:12,880
Why can't you though isn't that actually like a super fuck why we lost the elite literally have any

3271
03:09:14,160 --> 03:09:17,120
One hour ago five hundred twenty-nine comments. Damn it's okay. I think I'm gonna be all day. Oh, right?

3272
03:09:20,640 --> 03:09:22,640
Oh, thank you. Thank god

3273
03:09:24,640 --> 03:09:26,640
Bro

3274
03:09:30,360 --> 03:09:34,400
They're actively like what our war with with their own citizens. What oh god

3275
03:09:34,400 --> 03:09:41,800
I think he's mixing up ice. Oh, he is. He just took the things from the video intro ads. You need to be more aware of this come on, bro

3276
03:09:44,920 --> 03:09:46,520
Wow

3277
03:09:46,520 --> 03:09:50,440
As I'm gonna clip chipped all my video intros. What's wrong with you? I

3278
03:09:51,240 --> 03:09:57,480
Really try I really tried to be charitable Chicago is bracing itself and more scenes like this after President Trump authorized the deployment of the National Guard

3279
03:09:57,480 --> 03:10:00,120
That motherfucker streamed just as the UN released credible evidence

3280
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:01,760
of the U.S. Army committing a war crime, bruh.

3281
03:10:01,760 --> 03:10:02,600
- What?

3282
03:10:04,040 --> 03:10:04,960
- How much of a virtue signal is this?

3283
03:10:04,960 --> 03:10:06,040
When people are crying and complaining so much,

3284
03:10:06,040 --> 03:10:06,880
you're like, "Oh, there's no jobs,

3285
03:10:06,880 --> 03:10:08,120
"I got a culture grant, I can't find a work anywhere,

3286
03:10:08,120 --> 03:10:09,080
"and everything is impossible for me,

3287
03:10:09,080 --> 03:10:10,240
"it's impossible, it's impossible."

3288
03:10:10,240 --> 03:10:11,920
- I mean, you join the military, huh?

3289
03:10:11,920 --> 03:10:12,760
You mean join a genocide?

3290
03:10:12,760 --> 03:10:14,000
- Sometimes I feel like I really end up

3291
03:10:14,000 --> 03:10:15,120
over-clicking a lot of this stuff,

3292
03:10:15,120 --> 03:10:16,640
but did you just see how fucking little

3293
03:10:16,640 --> 03:10:17,680
these people respect you?

3294
03:10:17,680 --> 03:10:19,160
- And what Northern Lyon doesn't understand,

3295
03:10:19,160 --> 03:10:20,280
because he's a Canadian,

3296
03:10:20,280 --> 03:10:21,880
is that there's a tremendous amount of people

3297
03:10:21,880 --> 03:10:24,840
who use the Army as the ability to transcend their class.

3298
03:10:24,840 --> 03:10:25,840
- I mean, you're gonna gybill,

3299
03:10:25,840 --> 03:10:29,600
you can get educated training, I mean, I mean, oh, you criticize the Army, but didn't you know the government

3300
03:10:29,600 --> 03:10:31,360
pours billions of dollars into recruiting people

3301
03:10:31,360 --> 03:10:32,640
in places where poor people live?

3302
03:10:32,640 --> 03:10:33,480
- Oh, fuck man.

3303
03:10:33,480 --> 03:10:35,400
- This is also just not true.

3304
03:10:35,400 --> 03:10:38,320
The idea that the Army, the majority of the people

3305
03:10:38,320 --> 03:10:39,760
that join the Army are like poor people or whatever,

3306
03:10:39,760 --> 03:10:40,600
that's not true.

3307
03:10:40,600 --> 03:10:42,440
This is like a meme that I used to believe was like 15 years ago,

3308
03:10:42,440 --> 03:10:44,560
but it's just not true, you know, look at that, it's not true.

3309
03:10:44,560 --> 03:10:45,760
You push back on the wife stuff.

3310
03:10:45,760 --> 03:10:47,040
- Yeah, here's my hot take.

3311
03:10:47,040 --> 03:10:49,640
I think that Northern Lyon's wife probably fucking hated Dan,

3312
03:10:49,640 --> 03:10:50,840
and I think Northern Lyon is using this

3313
03:10:50,840 --> 03:10:51,840
as a fucking just way to get out.

3314
03:10:51,840 --> 03:10:53,600
That is my quick guess read.

3315
03:10:53,600 --> 03:10:54,440
- That's possible.

3316
03:10:54,440 --> 03:10:55,880
- That's a friend of 15 years.

3317
03:10:55,880 --> 03:10:57,640
It's more likely that it's that other mouth person, I think,

3318
03:10:57,640 --> 03:10:58,480
'cause I'm the one who's the sub-stylologist.

3319
03:10:58,480 --> 03:10:59,320
- Is he the best friend or whatever?

3320
03:10:59,320 --> 03:11:01,200
- I guess, 'cause I'm gonna get a whole last sub-stylist everything now.

3321
03:11:01,200 --> 03:11:03,280
- Yeah, but his wife is gonna do a stream tomorrow.

3322
03:11:03,280 --> 03:11:04,560
- I guess we'll see, yeah.

3323
03:11:04,560 --> 03:11:06,240
- Speak as really as you felt that he could.

3324
03:11:06,240 --> 03:11:08,240
Because in a way, and I don't think that anybody else has their own

3325
03:11:08,240 --> 03:11:09,760
is to consider this.

3326
03:11:09,760 --> 03:11:10,600
- Okay.

3327
03:11:11,960 --> 03:11:14,040
- And I sign over at my right to get shot

3328
03:11:14,040 --> 03:11:15,800
so Jared Kushner can make some money.

3329
03:11:15,800 --> 03:11:17,000
Are you gonna pay me for it?

3330
03:11:17,000 --> 03:11:18,240
Oh, that's basically charity.

3331
03:11:18,240 --> 03:11:19,840
I'll kill my stupid poor kids too.

3332
03:11:19,840 --> 03:11:21,840
- As an American who makes content for a living,

3333
03:11:21,840 --> 03:11:24,640
I couldn't do this without people joining the military

3334
03:11:24,640 --> 03:11:25,760
and protecting my freedoms.

3335
03:11:25,760 --> 03:11:26,760
- And you can then use those skills

3336
03:11:26,760 --> 03:11:27,920
to get a job in the private sector.

3337
03:11:27,920 --> 03:11:29,320
This is an amazing great thing that America--

3338
03:11:29,320 --> 03:11:32,160
- I just, it's like the dumbest fucking arguments

3339
03:11:32,160 --> 03:11:34,880
like being attacked by the dumbest fucking arguments.

3340
03:11:34,880 --> 03:11:38,280
And it's just like, again, it's all also,

3341
03:11:38,280 --> 03:11:41,240
if you really wanna just destroy your life

3342
03:11:41,240 --> 03:11:43,000
and you just wanna hate everything,

3343
03:11:43,000 --> 03:11:46,000
just start looking at all US politics through the lens of

3344
03:11:46,000 --> 03:11:47,680
is this helping or hurting my country.

3345
03:11:47,680 --> 03:11:51,080
And basically every single political commentator today

3346
03:11:51,080 --> 03:11:53,400
just gives political commentary through the lens

3347
03:11:53,400 --> 03:11:54,560
of I fucking hate America

3348
03:11:54,560 --> 03:11:56,240
and I wanna make this country weaker and shittier.

3349
03:11:56,240 --> 03:11:59,960
Like, we should never be, I can't believe I'm saying this.

3350
03:11:59,960 --> 03:12:01,800
We should never be attacking our military

3351
03:12:01,800 --> 03:12:03,480
as like an institution.

3352
03:12:03,480 --> 03:12:05,600
This is shit that fucking Democrats even knew back

3353
03:12:05,600 --> 03:12:06,680
in like the Iraq war days,

3354
03:12:06,680 --> 03:12:08,880
because the fucking Republic cocks would always say,

3355
03:12:08,880 --> 03:12:10,560
"Oh, you hate the troops, you hate the military."

3356
03:12:10,560 --> 03:12:13,760
It's like, "No, we're just anti what the US is doing right now

3357
03:12:13,760 --> 03:12:15,720
for intervention in the Middle East.

3358
03:12:15,720 --> 03:12:17,120
We don't like it's good, we don't agree with that.

3359
03:12:17,120 --> 03:12:17,960
What doesn't mean we hate the troops?

3360
03:12:17,960 --> 03:12:19,320
I mean, we hate the military.

3361
03:12:19,320 --> 03:12:21,080
It means we hate how the US is using it.

3362
03:12:21,080 --> 03:12:23,840
And, you know, this thing now, like actually no,

3363
03:12:23,840 --> 03:12:26,320
you do have to hate the military and hate the United States.

3364
03:12:26,320 --> 03:12:27,640
And hate the United States for recruiting.

3365
03:12:27,640 --> 03:12:29,520
Well, no, we need a military, right?

3366
03:12:29,520 --> 03:12:30,720
Like, I'm so curious.

3367
03:12:32,480 --> 03:12:34,440
If you were to pull some of these people into a call,

3368
03:12:34,440 --> 03:12:37,360
I legitimately don't know how they would answer the question.

3369
03:12:37,360 --> 03:12:38,720
If you were to be like, "Hold on."

3370
03:12:38,720 --> 03:12:41,440
Do you think that the United States of America

3371
03:12:41,440 --> 03:12:42,800
should have a military?

3372
03:12:42,800 --> 03:12:44,240
I don't know what they would answer to that question.

3373
03:12:44,240 --> 03:12:45,600
I don't know what they would say.

3374
03:12:45,600 --> 03:12:46,720
I don't think it's a,

3375
03:12:46,720 --> 03:12:48,520
I don't think you could just assume that they would say,

3376
03:12:48,520 --> 03:12:49,760
"Well, yeah, of course we should have some kind of military."

3377
03:12:49,760 --> 03:12:51,080
I don't think they would, I don't know if they would say that.

3378
03:12:51,080 --> 03:12:51,920
I'm not sure.

3379
03:12:51,920 --> 03:12:54,560
I legitimately think, I don't know what they would say.

3380
03:12:54,560 --> 03:12:55,960
The lefties will probably say something like,

3381
03:12:55,960 --> 03:12:57,640
"Oh, we need a civilian task for us."

3382
03:12:57,640 --> 03:12:59,120
Or some like, gage, anything like that.

3383
03:12:59,120 --> 03:13:00,480
For example, bullshit, maybe, yeah, I don't know.

3384
03:13:00,480 --> 03:13:02,120
Yeah.

3385
03:13:02,120 --> 03:13:04,280
Thus, in Northern Lyon,

3386
03:13:04,280 --> 03:13:06,280
tries to demonize people learning skills.

3387
03:13:06,280 --> 03:13:07,760
I went to a working class high school

3388
03:13:07,760 --> 03:13:10,640
and the United States military provided the actual,

3389
03:13:10,640 --> 03:13:12,480
like it was basically the best version

3390
03:13:12,480 --> 03:13:14,360
that we have of the service determines

3391
03:13:14,360 --> 03:13:15,600
or guarantees citizenship, right?

3392
03:13:15,600 --> 03:13:16,840
Yeah, man, of course it reminds you

3393
03:13:16,840 --> 03:13:18,720
of service guarantees citizenship

3394
03:13:18,720 --> 03:13:20,520
is what the movie was fucking parody.

3395
03:13:20,520 --> 03:13:21,680
Yes, that line came from the movie.

3396
03:13:21,680 --> 03:13:22,920
It did not come from the book, shut up.

3397
03:13:22,920 --> 03:13:23,840
Like, there are a lot of people like,

3398
03:13:23,840 --> 03:13:27,040
"Listen, don't even get me started on natural slaves."

3399
03:13:27,040 --> 03:13:29,480
You have no idea how deep this goes for me.

3400
03:13:29,480 --> 03:13:30,320
Are you sure?

3401
03:13:30,320 --> 03:13:31,720
'Cause I've listened to you speak a lot while making this video

3402
03:13:31,720 --> 03:13:32,960
and you seem like a bit of a fucking idiot.

3403
03:13:32,960 --> 03:13:35,520
You're not being oppressed by the top 2% of society.

3404
03:13:35,520 --> 03:13:37,680
You're being oppressed by the bottom 2% of society.

3405
03:13:37,680 --> 03:13:39,480
Technically, the military should be apolitical.

3406
03:13:39,480 --> 03:13:41,560
Like, the idea that supported the military is bad is kind of,

3407
03:13:41,560 --> 03:13:43,680
why am I lumped in with this guy?

3408
03:13:43,680 --> 03:13:45,640
Holy shit, are you okay, bro?

3409
03:13:45,640 --> 03:13:48,640
How are you? How am I lumped in with as with gold stakes here?

3410
03:13:48,640 --> 03:13:50,120
What the fuck?

3411
03:13:50,120 --> 03:13:52,480
This is why Democrats are so fucked right now.

3412
03:13:52,480 --> 03:13:54,040
And as part of Republicans get messaged so well

3413
03:13:54,040 --> 03:13:57,120
is because of fucking lunatics like this dude who like,

3414
03:13:57,120 --> 03:14:01,840
oh my, dude, I wish I could pull my mom from 1998

3415
03:14:01,840 --> 03:14:03,760
and put her here right now because it's like,

3416
03:14:03,760 --> 03:14:05,400
all the fucking shit, all the reasons

3417
03:14:05,400 --> 03:14:06,840
that the Glenbeck conservatives,

3418
03:14:06,840 --> 03:14:10,560
the neocons existed were like, oh, liberals, Democrats?

3419
03:14:10,560 --> 03:14:12,880
They hate America. They hate this country.

3420
03:14:12,880 --> 03:14:14,240
They just wanna see America fail.

3421
03:14:14,240 --> 03:14:16,600
Every single thing they do, Stevie, everything they do,

3422
03:14:16,600 --> 03:14:17,560
they just wanna see America fail.

3423
03:14:17,560 --> 03:14:18,400
It's all they care about.

3424
03:14:18,400 --> 03:14:19,320
They wanna see China.

3425
03:14:19,320 --> 03:14:20,880
They wanna see the Chai comms.

3426
03:14:20,880 --> 03:14:22,360
And they wanna see the Soviets come back

3427
03:14:22,360 --> 03:14:23,200
and take over America.

3428
03:14:23,200 --> 03:14:25,400
And they're like, mom, nobody thinks this.

3429
03:14:25,400 --> 03:14:27,640
Nowadays, everybody thinks this.

3430
03:14:27,640 --> 03:14:29,040
This is unironically what they are.

3431
03:14:29,040 --> 03:14:30,200
Oh, I just came back from China.

3432
03:14:30,200 --> 03:14:31,560
Did you know they have electricity over there?

3433
03:14:31,560 --> 03:14:32,480
It's fucking awesome.

3434
03:14:32,480 --> 03:14:33,980
And it's like, thank you, Hassan.

3435
03:14:36,120 --> 03:14:37,680
Wait, schizo email, hold on.

3436
03:14:42,120 --> 03:14:44,280
I'm just gonna say, for all the people,

3437
03:14:44,280 --> 03:14:46,640
supposedly deep mama, that's not his name.

3438
03:14:46,640 --> 03:14:48,960
It's one of the mega unhinged guys on Twitter.

3439
03:14:50,360 --> 03:14:51,200
Deeperama.

3440
03:14:51,200 --> 03:14:52,040
Is it that?

3441
03:14:52,040 --> 03:14:53,680
I think it was Hammer.

3442
03:14:53,680 --> 03:14:55,440
Other people are like, no, fuck.

3443
03:14:55,440 --> 03:14:56,280
It was somebody else.

3444
03:14:56,280 --> 03:14:57,320
Oh my God, who was this?

3445
03:14:57,320 --> 03:15:00,200
They said that they're doing a real deep dive now on me.

3446
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:03,440
To figure out the what really happened with the Israel stuff

3447
03:15:04,800 --> 03:15:10,000
I mean, no, there's anybody remember reading this. I'm never seeing a fucking somebody sent me this that somebody's working on a real video now

3448
03:15:10,000 --> 03:15:12,560
To figure out like if israel paid me

3449
03:15:15,200 --> 03:15:19,600
Oh for like the Israel trip. I'm gonna say like I just gonna like step through like eight hour streams of research

3450
03:15:19,600 --> 03:15:22,240
Something like that. I don't know what they were gonna fuck on

3451
03:15:23,520 --> 03:15:28,960
But it's like what they're gonna unearth. Yeah, but it's like bro. Are we serious? But meanwhile, okay, I'm sorry

3452
03:15:29,520 --> 03:15:35,280
Slightly skits her email. Okay. Now they admit it. Okay title is email is skizzo hasan China conspiracy

3453
03:15:36,560 --> 03:15:39,600
Imagine you're part of China's secret foreign influence department in 2026

3454
03:15:40,320 --> 03:15:47,840
You know all there is to know about both the technical details of telecommunication technologies and the sociological psychological political details of disinformation misinformation

3455
03:15:47,840 --> 03:15:56,560
When applied to geopolitics, so you wonder how do we give a big training book to a foreign national in america for him to use as guidance for his anti-western messaging

3456
03:15:56,960 --> 03:16:03,920
Well, you can't use standard telecommunications like phone calls sms, what's up instagram telegram signal or any email service even google drive mega media fire

3457
03:16:04,240 --> 03:16:12,880
Filester bunker folders because or etc because you know, it's likely that the us government or a fivis or nato government has backdoors or legal ways to access these

3458
03:16:12,960 --> 03:16:14,800
If not leakage is always possible

3459
03:16:14,800 --> 03:16:20,480
You can't even use obscure protocols like tor or hide behind 12 proxies because the in the age of ai anything can be decoded in seconds or the most months

3460
03:16:20,480 --> 03:16:21,520
So what do you do?

3461
03:16:21,520 --> 03:16:26,480
You invite the person in question to china for an all expenses paid torus trip and give him the one piece of media

3462
03:16:26,640 --> 03:16:28,800
That can't be instantly spied into a book

3463
03:16:29,120 --> 03:16:35,200
You disguise an entire book filled with talking points strategic language and lists of allies and enemies as mau's cute little red book

3464
03:16:35,600 --> 03:16:38,480
You choose a cute rich english speaking chinese

3465
03:16:38,560 --> 03:16:45,120
Essentially white woman to give the tor and the book to him and you send him back home with a bottle of premium soy sauce on 300 pages of foreign training

3466
03:16:45,280 --> 03:16:50,240
For him to use against his own home country. The influencer you invited is not retarded. He's at least 85 iq

3467
03:16:50,480 --> 03:16:53,200
He has read plenty of wikipedia articles and reddit comments about the ccp

3468
03:16:53,280 --> 03:16:56,640
So you know you wouldn't dare film Tiananmen Square. He knows what china is

3469
03:16:56,640 --> 03:16:59,600
But you tell him the film it anyway so that you can stage a police intervention on him

3470
03:17:00,080 --> 03:17:02,560
He didn't know that the chinese police were as rough as american police

3471
03:17:02,640 --> 03:17:05,760
He thought it was allowed but it's fucked that there's no full freedom of speech in china

3472
03:17:06,160 --> 03:17:12,000
Chinese censors as a bias as a biases. Um, or chinese censors are as bad as western censors, especially american ones

3473
03:17:12,240 --> 03:17:15,760
It's because of american misinformation that china has a sensor speech related to Tiananmen square

3474
03:17:16,160 --> 03:17:20,560
These aren't real quotes but you get the idea. It's a sci-op then your cute little six feet five

3475
03:17:22,400 --> 03:17:26,320
balding fattas influence he goes back to america and suddenly he has 100 times improved speech

3476
03:17:26,320 --> 03:17:30,800
He's on point with his misinformation disinformation perfectly at the forefront and coordinated with others

3477
03:17:30,960 --> 03:17:36,400
He's on point with his rhetoric. He knows by name and x.com handle each ally and enemy all dozens of them

3478
03:17:36,480 --> 03:17:43,440
He has clips x.com posts reddit posts and speeches ready every single stream even fake chat comments and fake chatters to reply to and talk about

3479
03:17:43,520 --> 03:17:48,240
For hours and hours every single day imagine you're part of china's secret influence campaign in 2026

3480
03:17:48,640 --> 03:17:53,760
You know that the us government is incompetent and you know that it ignores competent people and agencies. This is the best time to act now

3481
03:17:55,280 --> 03:17:58,080
Yeah, a title that skits our internet theory or whatever but like

3482
03:17:58,880 --> 03:18:04,960
if you wanted to make an idea that there was some fucking compromise individual whatever like asan is just like it's so

3483
03:18:05,520 --> 03:18:10,080
I hate like how good faith we have to be like i'm just in person. I'm just not a fucking moron

3484
03:18:10,320 --> 03:18:11,520
but like

3485
03:18:11,520 --> 03:18:16,720
If you want to think that somebody is compromised some shit is going on it would like hosan has so many markers

3486
03:18:17,040 --> 03:18:20,800
It would be if you were making a spy movie it would be too many

3487
03:18:20,880 --> 03:18:24,160
You would say this is too obvious. We need to pull this back a little bit

3488
03:18:24,400 --> 03:18:27,680
The guy goes to china and then immediately comes back and says that

3489
03:18:28,400 --> 03:18:34,480
America is worse than al-qaeda and uh, you know that he starts making excuses for why the chinese police

3490
03:18:34,960 --> 03:18:38,880
Uh took his phone in a tianimin square and a tianimin square protest

3491
03:18:39,520 --> 03:18:41,840
meanwhile says that american cops shoot at him

3492
03:18:44,720 --> 03:18:46,720
But I mean it's like

3493
03:18:48,800 --> 03:18:50,800
Whatever dude

3494
03:18:51,040 --> 03:18:54,960
Society technically military should be apolical like the idea that supporting the military is bad is kind of

3495
03:18:55,360 --> 03:18:58,720
Is retarded even if it's not gonna be like hey calmies fuck off. It can still be like hey retards

3496
03:18:58,720 --> 03:19:01,760
I don't do political shit military's not political. You don't like it. Fuck off because you're a fucking moron

3497
03:19:01,840 --> 03:19:05,440
Yeah, but then he would lose his entire audience now because of the retarded is repalistide leftist obsessed audience on the internet

3498
03:19:05,440 --> 03:19:10,240
Now they're just gonna set the speech for real fire destiny is an online figure who I think has a firm understanding both of dealing with the military

3499
03:19:10,480 --> 03:19:13,040
And of cowardice. I think that is we all should just drive us fucking borders about words. It is

3500
03:19:13,040 --> 03:19:15,040
Oh the clip

3501
03:19:15,520 --> 03:19:24,080
The pre october 7th clip all of my months of research debates public notes videos and everything else can all be summarized

3502
03:19:24,400 --> 03:19:27,680
On a clip that from before october 7 did you know that by the way?

3503
03:19:28,400 --> 03:19:30,400
And basically

3504
03:19:30,400 --> 03:19:35,440
Another player after all he's a supporter of the israeli defense force and even off advice on how to avoid bad threats after all that

3505
03:19:36,160 --> 03:19:37,680
Oh my god

3506
03:19:37,680 --> 03:19:43,600
When I was giving them advice on how to hide the genocide players after all he's a supporter of the israeli defense force and even off advice

3507
03:19:43,600 --> 03:19:46,240
On how they could avoid bad press after all their murder of children

3508
03:19:46,240 --> 03:19:49,280
If you had to give advice to israel in terms of the perception war when I call the narrative war

3509
03:19:49,280 --> 03:19:54,080
I don't know how you could ever fight against the the reverse the reverse david and goliath that has happened where it's

3510
03:19:54,400 --> 03:19:58,080
Israel and palestine. I don't think palestinians have I disagreeed with this guy most of the time

3511
03:19:58,400 --> 03:20:00,400
This you shy plus your dude is crazy

3512
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:03,080
It's one of the crazy settlers, the deep settler guys.

3513
03:20:04,740 --> 03:20:06,880
- Enough support from any foreign government

3514
03:20:06,880 --> 03:20:09,360
to ever make that look appealing to people.

3515
03:20:09,360 --> 03:20:10,180
I just said it again.

3516
03:20:10,180 --> 03:20:11,020
- There's a one piece of advice I'll give you.

3517
03:20:11,020 --> 03:20:11,860
Okay, if you're joining the idea up, okay?

3518
03:20:11,860 --> 03:20:12,820
Leave your fucking cell phone at home

3519
03:20:12,820 --> 03:20:14,320
and stop taking stupid fucking videos, okay?

3520
03:20:14,320 --> 03:20:15,460
'Cause everybody's fucking with 'em, okay?

3521
03:20:15,460 --> 03:20:16,920
If you see a soldier, okay?

3522
03:20:16,920 --> 03:20:17,760
Go through a fucking drawer.

3523
03:20:17,760 --> 03:20:19,560
Listen, if you wanna wear a dress and you think it's funny,

3524
03:20:19,560 --> 03:20:21,000
just don't fucking take a fucking video picture of it, okay?

3525
03:20:21,000 --> 03:20:21,840
Jesus.

3526
03:20:21,840 --> 03:20:22,680
- What an epic meme.

3527
03:20:22,680 --> 03:20:25,440
Ask the abandoned his child so he could go to a lake.

3528
03:20:25,440 --> 03:20:27,520
(laughs)

3529
03:20:30,000 --> 03:20:32,660
(mouse clicking)

3530
03:20:35,000 --> 03:20:36,840
- What's the likelihood that he does the same kind

3531
03:20:36,840 --> 03:20:40,160
of backstory and like snark shit on Asmin Gold

3532
03:20:40,160 --> 03:20:42,000
and the random V-tuber Cat Guy?

3533
03:20:42,000 --> 03:20:42,920
- Yeah, wait, what the fuck?

3534
03:20:42,920 --> 03:20:44,240
Where's the stuff on Asmin Gold?

3535
03:20:44,240 --> 03:20:46,200
Why am I being specially targeted here?

3536
03:20:46,200 --> 03:20:47,360
- The reverse would be the reverse.

3537
03:20:47,360 --> 03:20:48,200
- I wonder why this happened,

3538
03:20:48,200 --> 03:20:49,280
where it's Israel and Palestine.

3539
03:20:49,280 --> 03:20:50,680
I don't think Palestine has enough.

3540
03:20:50,680 --> 03:20:52,520
- Translation, I'm trying to avoid upsetting you

3541
03:20:52,520 --> 03:20:53,960
while also admitting it's harder for me

3542
03:20:53,960 --> 03:20:55,840
to push a pro-Israel narrative

3543
03:20:55,840 --> 03:20:57,920
when Israel is clearly the aggressor.

3544
03:20:57,920 --> 03:20:59,280
If I'm pro-genocide

3545
03:20:59,280 --> 03:21:00,820
then why would it be harder for me?

3546
03:21:04,320 --> 03:21:06,320
Okay, port from any--

3547
03:21:06,320 --> 03:21:07,960
- I don't think the personal tax on Asmin Gold

3548
03:21:07,960 --> 03:21:09,360
are coming up right after this.

3549
03:21:09,360 --> 03:21:10,280
I have privacy.

3550
03:21:10,280 --> 03:21:14,080
- There's also, also, this statement is true.

3551
03:21:14,080 --> 03:21:16,280
It's not even a bad statement.

3552
03:21:16,280 --> 03:21:18,360
Well, the fact that I'm trying to avoid upsetting somebody

3553
03:21:18,360 --> 03:21:19,760
is fucking retarded, but like,

3554
03:21:19,760 --> 03:21:21,240
it's harder to push a pro-Israel narrative

3555
03:21:21,240 --> 03:21:22,560
when Israel is clearly the aggressor.

3556
03:21:22,560 --> 03:21:24,280
That's true, it's harder to push a pro-

3557
03:21:24,280 --> 03:21:25,680
anybody narrative when you're the aggressor.

3558
03:21:25,680 --> 03:21:26,960
People tend to not like aggressors,

3559
03:21:26,960 --> 03:21:29,120
that's just factually true, no shit.

3560
03:21:29,120 --> 03:21:30,640
What?

3561
03:21:30,640 --> 03:21:32,920
- Make that look appealing to people.

3562
03:21:32,920 --> 03:21:34,280
- There's one piece of advice I'll give you.

3563
03:21:34,280 --> 03:21:35,360
Okay, if you're joining the idea of, okay?

3564
03:21:35,360 --> 03:21:36,360
Leave your fucking cell phone at home

3565
03:21:36,360 --> 03:21:37,840
and stop taking stupid fucking videos, okay?

3566
03:21:37,840 --> 03:21:39,000
'Cause everybody's fucking with it, okay?

3567
03:21:39,000 --> 03:21:41,520
If you see a soldier, okay, go through a fucking drawer.

3568
03:21:41,520 --> 03:21:42,520
Listen, if you want to fucking wear a dress

3569
03:21:42,520 --> 03:21:43,360
and you think it's funny,

3570
03:21:43,360 --> 03:21:44,520
just don't fucking take a fucking video picture, okay?

3571
03:21:44,520 --> 03:21:45,360
Jesus.

3572
03:21:45,360 --> 03:21:47,080
- What an epic meme, destiny abandoned his child

3573
03:21:47,080 --> 03:21:47,920
so we could go to--

3574
03:21:47,920 --> 03:21:48,920
- Political streamer doesn't seem super allegedly

3575
03:21:48,920 --> 03:21:49,760
showing you supposed to be just plaintiff

3576
03:21:49,760 --> 03:21:51,000
without permission.

3577
03:21:51,000 --> 03:21:52,360
Abandoned child, nice, okay.

3578
03:21:52,360 --> 03:21:54,120
- Well, lay in allegedly per day on women.

3579
03:21:54,120 --> 03:21:55,120
Could that be for women's resentment?

3580
03:21:55,120 --> 03:22:00,120
Who am I resentful of here, resentful of Northern Lyon

3581
03:22:00,120 --> 03:22:02,120
or resentful of the military, resentful of Israel

3582
03:22:02,120 --> 03:22:05,400
or resentful of Hassan or resentful of--

3583
03:22:05,400 --> 03:22:07,120
- And then his child, so we could go to LA

3584
03:22:07,120 --> 03:22:08,560
and allegedly per day on women.

3585
03:22:08,560 --> 03:22:09,640
Could that be for women's resentment?

3586
03:22:09,640 --> 03:22:10,640
- We say children, what are the ages that we're talking

3587
03:22:10,640 --> 03:22:11,160
about and where these people found?

3588
03:22:11,160 --> 03:22:12,400
- Oh, clever destiny.

3589
03:22:12,400 --> 03:22:14,000
When we say children, do we mean a tiny little baby

3590
03:22:14,000 --> 03:22:16,160
or a 17 year old terrorist trying to do terrorist things?

3591
03:22:16,160 --> 03:22:17,000
- Oh my god.

3592
03:22:17,000 --> 03:22:17,840
- Like to bend themselves from actual terror.

3593
03:22:17,840 --> 03:22:20,480
- I mean like those, that's a meaningful distinction.

3594
03:22:20,480 --> 03:22:24,160
I cannot believe that this is true.

3595
03:22:24,160 --> 03:22:27,080
I can't believe that I can't believe.

3596
03:22:27,080 --> 03:22:28,680
Did you see the thing with him

3597
03:22:28,680 --> 03:22:31,320
and the fucking Matt Delaunty, dude?

3598
03:22:31,320 --> 03:22:32,680
- Yes, yes, I know.

3599
03:22:32,680 --> 03:22:35,600
- The fact that him and Hassan have made so much content

3600
03:22:35,600 --> 03:22:37,600
on Israel and they don't know basic fact,

3601
03:22:37,600 --> 03:22:41,200
it's just so depressing to me to see somebody

3602
03:22:41,200 --> 03:22:44,200
like do the thing where it seems like,

3603
03:22:44,200 --> 03:22:46,480
oh, this person seems like they have a decent thought process.

3604
03:22:46,480 --> 03:22:47,600
They're able to go through misinformation.

3605
03:22:47,600 --> 03:22:48,440
They blah, blah, blah.

3606
03:22:48,440 --> 03:22:50,240
But then when a certain topic comes up,

3607
03:22:50,240 --> 03:22:52,440
everything goes out the window

3608
03:22:52,440 --> 03:22:55,480
and they become the full on fucker.

3609
03:22:55,480 --> 03:22:57,240
- I actually don't know if you've seen it.

3610
03:22:58,600 --> 03:22:59,640
This might actually be news to you

3611
03:22:59,640 --> 03:23:00,960
'cause I feel like you were away

3612
03:23:00,960 --> 03:23:02,800
or you were traveling on the day where it happened,

3613
03:23:02,800 --> 03:23:05,840
but you saw that Professor Dave went on Hassan stream, right?

3614
03:23:05,840 --> 03:23:07,160
- Oh, I haven't watched that.

3615
03:23:07,160 --> 03:23:08,120
Oh god, should I?

3616
03:23:08,120 --> 03:23:08,960
Yeah.

3617
03:23:08,960 --> 03:23:11,040
And it's like two guys who, between the two of them

3618
03:23:11,040 --> 03:23:13,040
have made like dozens of hours or hundreds of hours

3619
03:23:13,040 --> 03:23:14,360
who have queued include a sign, I guess, of content.

3620
03:23:14,360 --> 03:23:15,280
I'm like, "Yes, Rapalasan."

3621
03:23:15,280 --> 03:23:17,160
Hassan didn't know the Western wall was last year,

3622
03:23:17,160 --> 03:23:18,920
which is impossible if you've ever read anything

3623
03:23:18,920 --> 03:23:20,320
about his Rapalasan, your life.

3624
03:23:20,320 --> 03:23:22,880
And Professor Dave had no idea what happened

3625
03:23:22,880 --> 03:23:23,720
in the 48 War.

3626
03:23:23,720 --> 03:23:25,520
You didn't know that fucking Egypt and Jordan

3627
03:23:25,520 --> 03:23:28,520
were the actual original owners of the West Bank

3628
03:23:28,520 --> 03:23:31,040
and the Gaza Strip had no clue, which is, again,

3629
03:23:31,040 --> 03:23:31,880
I'm not gonna sit here and be,

3630
03:23:31,880 --> 03:23:32,720
I don't know why I'm hedging.

3631
03:23:32,720 --> 03:23:35,000
Like, if you don't know things about whatever, that's fine.

3632
03:23:35,000 --> 03:23:37,080
But don't sit here and act like I'm a clueless retard

3633
03:23:37,080 --> 03:23:39,240
and you're constantly knowledge checking me

3634
03:23:39,240 --> 03:23:41,680
when you're like uninformed about basic facts

3635
03:23:41,680 --> 03:23:44,200
of the conflict, things that you could learn on,

3636
03:23:44,200 --> 03:23:45,320
dare I say.

3637
03:23:45,320 --> 03:23:46,680
- I mean, that's the reason why he doesn't do

3638
03:23:46,680 --> 03:23:48,640
those live conversations is 'cause like even in the ones

3639
03:23:48,640 --> 03:23:51,460
that aren't contentious, he manages to fuck them up

3640
03:23:51,460 --> 03:23:55,040
and like, demonstrates how much fucking morani is in the rich.

3641
03:23:55,040 --> 03:23:55,880
- Ready to cringe.

3642
03:23:55,880 --> 03:23:57,280
- I can help you out with that dickhead.

3643
03:23:57,280 --> 03:23:58,880
A BBC investigation showed that two thirds

3644
03:23:58,880 --> 03:24:01,440
were under the age of 12, many were as young as two.

3645
03:24:01,440 --> 03:24:02,280
And guess what else?

3646
03:24:02,280 --> 03:24:04,480
Most of this happens in so-called humanitarian safe zones.

3647
03:24:04,480 --> 03:24:07,000
Thus, Ralph, many else from actual terrorism.

3648
03:24:07,000 --> 03:24:07,840
I can help.

3649
03:24:10,400 --> 03:24:11,960
- Okay, first, yeah, 'cause I can say two thirds

3650
03:24:11,960 --> 03:24:16,440
under the kid of 12, that's not true.

3651
03:24:16,440 --> 03:24:19,520
When we looked at the death thing by age,

3652
03:24:19,520 --> 03:24:22,560
it actually does look closer to what I guessed it would have been,

3653
03:24:22,560 --> 03:24:25,800
which is where the majority of spikes heavily at age

3654
03:24:25,800 --> 03:24:29,840
is like, I think it's 14 a little and then 15, 16, 17 a lot.

3655
03:24:29,840 --> 03:24:31,840
Which shows that they're probably not just fucking

3656
03:24:31,840 --> 03:24:34,160
indiscriminately murdering people or talking children.

3657
03:24:34,160 --> 03:24:37,040
It's probably enemy combatants, or at least they think it is.

3658
03:24:37,040 --> 03:24:39,200
- The funnest part is, too, even if you were to take this

3659
03:24:39,200 --> 03:24:41,280
at its face value rating and you were to trust this

3660
03:24:41,280 --> 03:24:43,720
reporting 100%, two thirds under the age of 12,

3661
03:24:43,720 --> 03:24:46,960
if we're assuming that's like the three thirds in question

3662
03:24:46,960 --> 03:24:49,600
are six, 12, and 18, two thirds makes sense.

3663
03:24:49,600 --> 03:24:51,000
- Oh, sure, possibly, yeah.

3664
03:24:51,000 --> 03:24:51,840
No, that's true, yeah.

3665
03:24:51,840 --> 03:24:55,000
Like, mathematically, then it would be intentional,

3666
03:24:55,000 --> 03:24:56,720
like, even with this reporting.

3667
03:24:56,720 --> 03:25:00,000
- Or wait, hold on, well, no, it wouldn't be intentional

3668
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:01,680
that would be indiscriminate, though, right?

3669
03:25:01,680 --> 03:25:02,680
'Cause it shows that they're not...

3670
03:25:02,680 --> 03:25:03,520
- True.

3671
03:25:03,520 --> 03:25:04,760
- Yeah, discriminating between ages.

3672
03:25:04,760 --> 03:25:05,600
But also, I'm sorry.

3673
03:25:05,600 --> 03:25:08,680
The reason why I say this is not true here is because

3674
03:25:08,680 --> 03:25:11,000
this is something different for,

3675
03:25:11,000 --> 03:25:14,080
I don't know what particular attack this was,

3676
03:25:14,080 --> 03:25:17,240
or this is just children that were shot, I guess,

3677
03:25:17,240 --> 03:25:20,280
because this is 168 cases

3678
03:25:20,280 --> 03:25:22,280
that the BBC compiled a Palestinian children's shot in Gaza.

3679
03:25:22,280 --> 03:25:23,560
This is a particular thing.

3680
03:25:23,560 --> 03:25:24,840
This is not all children deaths.

3681
03:25:24,840 --> 03:25:26,080
This is for 168 cases.

3682
03:25:26,080 --> 03:25:28,920
I don't know if the guy read the article that he cited here.

3683
03:25:28,920 --> 03:25:30,880
You out with that dickhead, a BBC investigation showed

3684
03:25:30,880 --> 03:25:32,520
that two thirds were under the age of 12.

3685
03:25:32,520 --> 03:25:33,920
Many were as young as two.

3686
03:25:33,920 --> 03:25:34,760
And guess what else?

3687
03:25:34,760 --> 03:25:37,000
Most of this happens in so-called humanitarian safe zones.

3688
03:25:37,000 --> 03:25:39,040
Thus proving there is absolutely nowhere in Gaza

3689
03:25:39,040 --> 03:25:39,880
that is safe to be.

3690
03:25:39,880 --> 03:25:41,360
- I know that last bit might seem like a bit much,

3691
03:25:41,360 --> 03:25:42,960
but as someone who is both a dad

3692
03:25:42,960 --> 03:25:44,200
and also had an absent dad,

3693
03:25:44,200 --> 03:25:45,560
I think that's genuinely awful.

3694
03:25:45,560 --> 03:25:46,400
- Oh my God.

3695
03:25:46,400 --> 03:25:47,240
- And also the guy literally played like a minute

3696
03:25:47,240 --> 03:25:48,840
of one of my videos and then just said,

3697
03:25:48,840 --> 03:25:50,120
"I want all Jewish people to die."

3698
03:25:50,120 --> 03:25:51,280
- But the position for a lot of these people

3699
03:25:51,280 --> 03:25:52,720
is that all Israelis and Jewish should just be killed.

3700
03:25:52,720 --> 03:25:53,560
So that's the bad thing.

3701
03:25:53,560 --> 03:25:54,880
So on his mind, he wanted to see Abby murder Ellie in the end

3702
03:25:54,880 --> 03:26:01,200
that would have been the good ending I guess.

3703
03:26:01,200 --> 03:26:02,600
- So I don't care, I guess.

3704
03:26:02,600 --> 03:26:04,680
- See, because at one point at the start of Dan's live stream,

3705
03:26:04,680 --> 03:26:06,720
Northern Lion was in the chat and he said, "Who are?"

3706
03:26:06,720 --> 03:26:08,200
- Wait, did Northern Lion actually support

3707
03:26:08,200 --> 03:26:09,600
the military stream?

3708
03:26:09,600 --> 03:26:11,040
- I thought he was doing it, he's such a...

3709
03:26:11,040 --> 03:26:11,880
- No, really?

3710
03:26:11,880 --> 03:26:13,280
- This is what they all said at the beginning, right?

3711
03:26:13,280 --> 03:26:14,120
- Yeah.

3712
03:26:14,120 --> 03:26:15,440
- Who are?

3713
03:26:15,440 --> 03:26:17,360
- Oh, no way.

3714
03:26:17,360 --> 03:26:18,480
- Yes, I saw this with Destiny.

3715
03:26:18,480 --> 03:26:20,560
- Who are is what people say in the military.

3716
03:26:20,560 --> 03:26:22,520
And then he left when Dan actually started promoting the army.

3717
03:26:22,520 --> 03:26:24,680
Which definitely means Northern Lion was completely fine

3718
03:26:24,680 --> 03:26:26,360
with the whole thing and then suddenly went to face.

3719
03:26:26,360 --> 03:26:30,520
- There's also this, but this is the Pisco gradient binary.

3720
03:26:30,520 --> 03:26:32,400
I never said he was all okay with it

3721
03:26:32,400 --> 03:26:33,680
and it became all not okay with it.

3722
03:26:33,680 --> 03:26:35,520
What I'm saying is just that it seems like

3723
03:26:35,520 --> 03:26:38,600
based on his initial reaction, it doesn't seem like he had

3724
03:26:38,600 --> 03:26:40,960
like this much of a visceral response.

3725
03:26:42,440 --> 03:26:45,720
So, you know, if he were to come out after the stream

3726
03:26:45,720 --> 03:26:48,440
and he'd be like, "You know, I really don't know how,

3727
03:26:48,440 --> 03:26:49,520
you know, I feel like I wanna think about it.

3728
03:26:49,520 --> 03:26:51,320
I just don't really, not a big fan of the military

3729
03:26:51,320 --> 03:26:52,720
sponsor stream for a variety of reasons, whatever."

3730
03:26:52,720 --> 03:26:54,040
Like, okay, I can buy it.

3731
03:26:54,040 --> 03:26:57,520
But to be like, so against that, that you're ready

3732
03:26:57,520 --> 03:27:01,720
to torch this entire friendship, it's, I'm surprised

3733
03:27:01,720 --> 03:27:04,120
that I didn't see a more dramatic reaction

3734
03:27:04,120 --> 03:27:05,200
from your emotional in the beginning.

3735
03:27:05,200 --> 03:27:07,520
That was my point, but whatever, I guess, okay.

3736
03:27:07,520 --> 03:27:09,960
- Isn't Grosven just draws the full selection.

3737
03:27:09,960 --> 03:27:12,120
- He's clearly, this is a reaction to the community's reaction

3738
03:27:12,120 --> 03:27:12,960
and that's what he's trying to follow.

3739
03:27:12,960 --> 03:27:13,800
That's what he's tracking right now.

3740
03:27:13,800 --> 03:27:14,640
Not his own individual thoughts about it.

3741
03:27:14,640 --> 03:27:17,160
- But here is the logs where he's saying, "Who are?"

3742
03:27:17,160 --> 03:27:19,360
Clearly on board, until he realized his audience

3743
03:27:19,360 --> 03:27:20,200
was mad at him for this.

3744
03:27:20,200 --> 03:27:22,120
- Don't ever forget chat, this is what optics frogs want.

3745
03:27:22,120 --> 03:27:22,960
This is what they want.

3746
03:27:22,960 --> 03:27:23,800
This is what they're trying to take from you.

3747
03:27:23,800 --> 03:27:24,640
This is what they want every time.

3748
03:27:24,640 --> 03:27:25,640
I don't get how these chats are at all controversial.

3749
03:27:25,640 --> 03:27:26,720
You can make a few jokes and chat

3750
03:27:26,720 --> 03:27:28,040
while internally thinking, "What the hell is he doing?"

3751
03:27:28,040 --> 03:27:29,000
And then giving a proper response later

3752
03:27:29,000 --> 03:27:30,000
when you get over it, what?

3753
03:27:30,000 --> 03:27:32,400
- Not, I mean, can you though?

3754
03:27:32,400 --> 03:27:34,320
I don't really think you would get away with that.

3755
03:27:34,320 --> 03:27:35,880
I think that comment is stupid.

3756
03:27:35,880 --> 03:27:37,720
Like, imagine if somebody on stream was going,

3757
03:27:37,720 --> 03:27:39,840
"I fucking hate all fucking black people

3758
03:27:39,840 --> 03:27:41,200
"and trans people and I hate minorities."

3759
03:27:41,200 --> 03:27:42,840
I'm like, "Ha, like get 'em, bro, huh."

3760
03:27:42,840 --> 03:27:44,000
Yeah, man, eugenics.

3761
03:27:44,000 --> 03:27:47,400
And then later, I'm like, "Well, you know, actually,"

3762
03:27:47,400 --> 03:27:49,000
maybe it's like, "Well, no, I think you probably people

3763
03:27:49,000 --> 03:27:50,240
"probably would show you for doing that."

3764
03:27:50,240 --> 03:27:53,320
And I'm kind of like, "Well, bro, what are you doing? Hello?"

3765
03:27:53,320 --> 03:27:54,560
- He actually supported it, guys.

3766
03:27:54,560 --> 03:27:55,920
He did a total 180.

3767
03:27:55,920 --> 03:27:57,920
Much like I'd do a 180 if I found out my friend

3768
03:27:57,920 --> 03:27:59,560
in his mid third, he's just texting teenage girls,

3769
03:27:59,560 --> 03:28:01,600
but you know you, man.

3770
03:28:01,600 --> 03:28:02,840
I make this partly just to scream

3771
03:28:02,840 --> 03:28:04,680
into the void a bit as a texting teenage girls,

3772
03:28:04,680 --> 03:28:05,760
but you do you, man.

3773
03:28:05,760 --> 03:28:06,760
- It's not even supposed to be a teenage girl,

3774
03:28:06,760 --> 03:28:10,200
supposed to be underage girls, because technically,

3775
03:28:10,200 --> 03:28:12,200
19 can be a teenager, but okay.

3776
03:28:12,200 --> 03:28:13,440
Or he might, maybe he thinks that's equally

3777
03:28:13,440 --> 03:28:15,360
pedophilia, who knows.

3778
03:28:15,360 --> 03:28:16,600
- I make this partly just to scream

3779
03:28:16,600 --> 03:28:17,920
into the void a bit as a treat,

3780
03:28:17,920 --> 03:28:19,760
but also because it goes back to what I was saying before

3781
03:28:19,760 --> 03:28:22,440
and in other videos covering modern social media backlash.

3782
03:28:22,440 --> 03:28:23,280
About how conversations--

3783
03:28:23,280 --> 03:28:26,040
- I hate when they do the virtue signal on this shit.

3784
03:28:26,040 --> 03:28:27,840
You are the problem!

3785
03:28:27,840 --> 03:28:29,920
You are the problem!

3786
03:28:29,920 --> 03:28:32,200
You are the person who cannot have conversations

3787
03:28:32,200 --> 03:28:34,320
about this shit without picking teams and sides

3788
03:28:34,320 --> 03:28:36,360
and instantly going all the way into what extreme.

3789
03:28:36,360 --> 03:28:37,920
You just spent half the video, half your criticism,

3790
03:28:37,920 --> 03:28:39,160
and he was calling me a pedophile.

3791
03:28:39,160 --> 03:28:40,720
And now you're about the fucking virtue signal

3792
03:28:40,720 --> 03:28:41,920
that you're a good fucking dad

3793
03:28:41,920 --> 03:28:43,640
and your girls try to make internet discourse better?

3794
03:28:43,640 --> 03:28:45,400
Holy shit, bro.

3795
03:28:45,400 --> 03:28:47,040
My God.

3796
03:28:47,040 --> 03:28:48,320
- It can be controlled, especially online,

3797
03:28:48,320 --> 03:28:49,960
in such a way that your sense of what's normal

3798
03:28:49,960 --> 03:28:52,080
and what's utterly fucking ridiculous can be skewed.

3799
03:28:52,080 --> 03:28:53,160
- That's why I wanted to bring attention to this.

3800
03:28:53,160 --> 03:28:55,720
This type of loser, weasel, audience capture behavior.

3801
03:28:55,720 --> 03:28:57,800
If you engage in something like this, you will get farmed.

3802
03:28:57,800 --> 03:28:59,040
You will get farmed, and I hope other people

3803
03:28:59,040 --> 03:29:00,200
make videos farming this as well.

3804
03:29:00,200 --> 03:29:02,360
Once again, Kate and Northern Lions crimes here

3805
03:29:02,360 --> 03:29:04,280
basically amount to deciding not to work with someone

3806
03:29:04,280 --> 03:29:06,000
anymore because they don't support the US military.

3807
03:29:06,000 --> 03:29:08,040
While making it abundantly clear they had no plans

3808
03:29:08,040 --> 03:29:10,560
to do anything beyond how they organize their own live streams.

3809
03:29:10,560 --> 03:29:13,040
- To honor that, I don't think I should, you know,

3810
03:29:13,040 --> 03:29:15,680
make, I don't wanna, I don't wanna make it worse for Dan.

3811
03:29:15,680 --> 03:29:16,520
- Did she bait us?

3812
03:29:16,520 --> 03:29:18,720
- It was a minimal expression of basic principles.

3813
03:29:18,720 --> 03:29:19,560
- And the backlash they received,

3814
03:29:19,560 --> 03:29:20,640
especially from these two groups,

3815
03:29:20,640 --> 03:29:22,560
was a media and extreme in a way that goes beyond--

3816
03:29:22,560 --> 03:29:25,480
- I didn't even cover it immediately, you fucking liar?

3817
03:29:25,480 --> 03:29:27,800
As I was two days late to this drama.

3818
03:29:29,280 --> 03:29:31,400
Also, my community backlash, I don't think my community

3819
03:29:31,400 --> 03:29:32,240
even cared that much.

3820
03:29:32,240 --> 03:29:33,560
We cover stuff for one day, then we move the fuck on.

3821
03:29:33,560 --> 03:29:34,880
We don't sit here and sit on it forever,

3822
03:29:34,880 --> 03:29:36,280
like you fucking weirdos do.

3823
03:29:36,280 --> 03:29:37,440
Oh my God.

3824
03:29:38,360 --> 03:29:40,280
- Just the standard endless scroll of abuse of comment.

3825
03:29:40,280 --> 03:29:41,640
- Disgusting, dishonest.

3826
03:29:41,640 --> 03:29:43,800
- What is this guy's political perspective?

3827
03:29:43,800 --> 03:29:46,840
- Jack Saint, 'cause also, I feel like this is like

3828
03:29:46,840 --> 03:29:50,360
a microcosm of the political fucking scene we're in today.

3829
03:29:50,360 --> 03:29:52,040
I should theoretically, now I don't know

3830
03:29:52,040 --> 03:29:53,720
for this valueless fucking demon,

3831
03:29:53,720 --> 03:29:56,760
this disgusting, like scum fuck of a human being, okay?

3832
03:29:56,760 --> 03:29:58,760
I don't actually know, maybe we don't agree on much politically,

3833
03:29:58,760 --> 03:30:00,080
but I would get--

3834
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:03,940
based on the things that he said that we should have a pretty high overlap and I

3835
03:30:03,940 --> 03:30:07,300
would guess based on things that he said that him and Asmigold should have a very

3836
03:30:07,300 --> 03:30:10,020
very low overlap but he spent the majority of the video criticizing my

3837
03:30:10,020 --> 03:30:13,260
perspective and by criticizing my perspective I mean calling it pedophile

3838
03:30:13,260 --> 03:30:16,620
not a single part now I'm not saying he should have done personal attacks on

3839
03:30:16,620 --> 03:30:19,920
Asmigold but like most of the viewers are tangled against me what the fuck that

3840
03:30:19,920 --> 03:30:23,140
Asmigold was the one with the actual onion takes I'm like I don't really know

3841
03:30:23,140 --> 03:30:26,500
if we should be attacking the military like and hating the military that seems

3842
03:30:26,500 --> 03:30:29,380
like maybe not the best perspective Asmigold is like I think that when the

3843
03:30:29,380 --> 03:30:32,540
military kills illegal immigrants and shit that's actually fucking based and

3844
03:30:32,540 --> 03:30:37,140
they should do more of it and somehow we're the same here what the fuck

3845
03:30:37,140 --> 03:30:41,180
fucking loser I hope more people talk about this I do probably maybe respond

3846
03:30:41,180 --> 03:30:44,780
to this again or something else in the future will happen and when that happens

3847
03:30:44,780 --> 03:30:47,700
I will be there I will be there to make it worse members of the community had

3848
03:30:47,700 --> 03:30:52,380
the address is posted at least one had to speak to the police and so it will

3849
03:30:52,380 --> 03:30:58,900
be there to make it worse members of the community is a breadtuber guy by the way of

3850
03:30:58,900 --> 03:31:01,540
course he is

3851
03:31:02,260 --> 03:31:07,020
HC just confirms that members of the NLSS were docked I wonder what this is in

3852
03:31:07,020 --> 03:31:13,580
relation to if this is the same thing or not maybe it is it might be see had

3853
03:31:13,580 --> 03:31:16,460
their addresses posted at least one had to speak to the police and the sort of

3854
03:31:16,460 --> 03:31:19,740
stink of their apparent coward is still lingers in random online spaces I

3855
03:31:19,740 --> 03:31:22,340
frequently get comments now from people saying channels like mine make them

3856
03:31:22,340 --> 03:31:25,300
feel like they're not going insane maybe I am insane because to me any

3857
03:31:25,300 --> 03:31:28,900
remotely sentient person could look at this from a distance and say oh well yeah I

3858
03:31:28,900 --> 03:31:31,660
can see why they would feel this way especially for the objective reasons

3859
03:31:31,660 --> 03:31:34,660
they've given I also would not support the army of a guy who just threatened to

3860
03:31:34,660 --> 03:31:38,300
annex my country and I was worried about a US invasion into Canada I think if he

3861
03:31:38,300 --> 03:31:41,220
was so worried about that I don't think it would have been so fucking who are

3862
03:31:41,220 --> 03:31:43,620
whatever the guy's got when he was actually doing this and recognize coward

3863
03:31:43,620 --> 03:31:46,580
this not in someone making a hard call to cut someone off for doing something

3864
03:31:46,580 --> 03:31:49,420
they technically could have ignored but in the idea that they should but they

3865
03:31:49,420 --> 03:31:52,620
couldn't ignore it they literally couldn't their community was fun they did

3866
03:31:52,620 --> 03:31:56,140
initially they did ignore it and then the communities are fucking revolting it's

3867
03:31:56,140 --> 03:31:59,980
just the line it is live at everything what is the point I'm just gonna every

3868
03:31:59,980 --> 03:32:02,940
single day on streamer's gonna rewatch I fucking Metal Gear Solid 2 speech over

3869
03:32:02,940 --> 03:32:05,860
and over and over again cuz this is truly the world bro the fucking wall is so

3870
03:32:05,860 --> 03:32:08,900
fucking weak to make it public - it is it's so fucking weak and he should also

3871
03:32:08,900 --> 03:32:11,460
appreciate the fact that the United States military is one of the biggest

3872
03:32:11,460 --> 03:32:15,140
insurance policies of the continuation of our way of life or even suppressed how

3873
03:32:15,140 --> 03:32:18,980
they honestly felt out of some slavished devotion to the idea of the US military

3874
03:32:18,980 --> 03:32:22,500
is that big daddy protector who we obviously concretize because who what

3875
03:32:22,500 --> 03:32:27,460
about that's me yep don't ever criticize the US military true of the US military

3876
03:32:27,460 --> 03:32:30,980
is that big daddy protector who we obviously concretize because who what

3877
03:32:30,980 --> 03:32:35,540
about Russia whoopsie and all of this by the way is to who we obviously concretize

3878
03:32:35,540 --> 03:32:43,460
because who what about Russia whoopsie yeah wow he got me is the huge Trump

3879
03:32:43,460 --> 03:32:48,820
supporter guy okay wow dude sick sick and all of this by the way is to

3880
03:32:48,820 --> 03:32:52,180
condemn the United States Army that's protecting Canada if it wasn't for them

3881
03:32:52,180 --> 03:32:55,620
Russia or Hitler would have rolled over Canada like a joke I don't doubt the

3882
03:32:55,620 --> 03:32:58,260
fact that I'm only a dual US citizen would be a media ammo for these

3883
03:32:58,260 --> 03:33:01,900
communities to jump straight in with the oh take a citizenship daddy totally

3884
03:33:01,900 --> 03:33:07,260
a dual US citizen oh dual dual and would be a media ammo for these communities to

3885
03:33:07,260 --> 03:33:10,540
jump straight in with the oh take a citizenship daddy Trump please take it

3886
03:33:10,540 --> 03:33:13,540
away or screeching out to deport me as is always the case when these people

3887
03:33:13,540 --> 03:33:16,660
have to confront remotely sensible okay it's important it's silly get her the

3888
03:33:16,660 --> 03:33:20,340
hell out of yep that's definitely my positions I'm super big on the pro it's

3889
03:33:20,340 --> 03:33:24,180
not like I've literally I've said that even the pro Palestinian people should

3890
03:33:24,180 --> 03:33:28,100
never be deported and I've different but yeah what the good credit there the

3891
03:33:28,100 --> 03:33:31,060
lefty people are fucking subhuman dude but fuck it actually you know what this

3892
03:33:31,060 --> 03:33:33,460
guy's right you should be fucking deported fuck fuck this guy go go to

3893
03:33:33,460 --> 03:33:35,900
somewhere else if you hate the country you hate everybody in it you can't you

3894
03:33:35,900 --> 03:33:39,340
are psychotic you're you're divorced from reality maybe you should go somewhere

3895
03:33:39,340 --> 03:33:42,700
else okay because clearly whatever's happening here is not healthy for you

3896
03:33:42,700 --> 03:33:46,300
thanks me that's why I felt like calling this specific case out our social feeds are

3897
03:33:46,300 --> 03:33:49,380
largely controlled not just by the ever-present army of the incredibly online

3898
03:33:49,380 --> 03:33:53,460
but also oh and then now he's about to do the thing where he diagnosis accurately

3899
03:33:53,460 --> 03:33:56,220
the problem of the internet without realizing that it's literally him that's

3900
03:33:56,220 --> 03:34:01,260
doing it let's go specific case out our social feeds are largely controlled not

3901
03:34:01,260 --> 03:34:03,980
just by the ever-present army of the incredibly online but also by the

3902
03:34:03,980 --> 03:34:06,780
specific individuals who control the platforms they occupy we can largely

3903
03:34:06,780 --> 03:34:09,700
dictate which views are amplified and made to seem normal which is a special

3904
03:34:09,700 --> 03:34:12,460
interest when they're all vying for the approval of one particular guy and

3905
03:34:12,460 --> 03:34:15,540
personally I don't think the viewpoints of the child murder loving freaks are

3906
03:34:15,540 --> 03:34:19,820
normal at all mean you shoot adults and deport the kids so brave he's so so

3907
03:34:19,820 --> 03:34:23,380
brave anybody else think that killing people is bad and wrong what a brave

3908
03:34:23,380 --> 03:34:27,920
take my god dude I wish I was a spray of Jesus right watch you whoever yeah I

3909
03:34:27,920 --> 03:34:31,340
shoot whoever I mean if it's kids women men anybody just shoot them savages

3910
03:34:31,340 --> 03:34:36,580
yeah that's what those are my decisions are processing them watching them cry

3911
03:34:36,580 --> 03:34:40,860
upset thank you yeah yeah I'm getting too excited even thinking about it stop

3912
03:34:40,860 --> 03:34:44,740
yeah stop resisting and then you get to zap them what the fuck did Jesus Christ

3913
03:34:44,740 --> 03:34:48,980
this I don't know how much I asked my girl you watch this guy says but I don't

3914
03:34:48,980 --> 03:34:51,340
know what's happened to twitch as a platform because some people say like oh

3915
03:34:51,340 --> 03:34:53,700
like even I say like oh there's a political bend obviously they got a

3916
03:34:53,700 --> 03:34:55,780
political partisanship but there's something more than that has happened

3917
03:34:55,780 --> 03:34:58,900
there because and I'm not I hate even saying this because I'm not saying

3918
03:34:58,900 --> 03:34:59,940
anybody should get banned and

3919
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:02,000
I would I actually

3920
03:35:02,340 --> 03:35:04,340
It was painful to say

3921
03:35:04,880 --> 03:35:10,180
Yeah, but rather as mingle be there than just Hassan be there because that's even more one-sided an on hinge

3922
03:35:10,180 --> 03:35:15,900
But like I don't know how twitch stands for a lot of the insane shit that that as mingle said. It's it's crazy

3923
03:35:15,900 --> 03:35:17,900
It's insane. It's unconscionably

3924
03:35:18,640 --> 03:35:23,240
Because they stand for the shit that Hassan says. Yeah, that's why I wonder because in order because if they get rid of one

3925
03:35:23,240 --> 03:35:27,820
Then it'll look weird if they don't the other maybe I don't know. It's I don't know. That's right. Yes, exactly. You got it. Yep

3926
03:35:28,320 --> 03:35:31,940
Please, I don't know about you guys, but I really couldn't give a fun. I think they are so obviously deeply detached

3927
03:35:33,560 --> 03:35:35,860
But for them, this is just another fight they can have with it

3928
03:35:36,100 --> 03:35:39,600
The same guy implied that either you were vying for Asmigolts attention or as one is buying for your attention

3929
03:35:39,600 --> 03:35:41,740
I think it was just implying that we control the space

3930
03:35:41,740 --> 03:35:45,280
So other people are pressured to give the takes that we give because they're vying for our attention

3931
03:35:45,280 --> 03:35:48,600
I think that was the point of that guy. I don't know if he's trying to say I'm because it doesn't make sense

3932
03:35:48,600 --> 03:35:51,720
I'm vying for asmigolts attention because I'm being on fucking twitch

3933
03:35:52,800 --> 03:35:57,920
Little leftist enemies who in this case they think is at this point. Yeah, yeah, cuz I'm just a small bean on

3934
03:35:58,320 --> 03:36:02,960
I'm meeting me on YouTube. Yeah, you're constantly on the back foot and pushing back and stuff like that

3935
03:36:02,960 --> 03:36:07,000
But it's hard on in a board cap without realizing the views they're attacking are completely reasonable

3936
03:36:07,000 --> 03:36:10,320
If you actually care at all about the things you say you believe in for some people

3937
03:36:10,320 --> 03:36:13,920
This is all pure fun. None of it really affects them Dan himself admitted that at a different time

3938
03:36:13,920 --> 03:36:18,680
He thought it'd be trendy to be an outrageous conservative back when he was doing reality shows the motivations were just as vapid to him

3939
03:36:18,680 --> 03:36:21,680
That was the fun part here. I was playing this role my family was besides themselves

3940
03:36:21,680 --> 03:36:25,040
All these people were saying that wasn't who I was then when I go on the show I could more or less be myself

3941
03:36:25,040 --> 03:36:29,600
It turns out some people actually do care about this is which isn't virtue signaling if what?

3942
03:36:30,560 --> 03:36:34,360
What if you're a kid in a war zone then what true on the show?

3943
03:36:34,360 --> 03:36:37,600
I could be myself it turns out some people actually do care about these things

3944
03:36:37,600 --> 03:36:44,880
Which isn't virtue signaling or audience capture or whatever dumb comb you just came up with to describe people who aren't pathetic bootlickers and have basic standards

3945
03:36:44,880 --> 03:36:47,800
If it wasn't for the United States military you wouldn't be speaking English

3946
03:36:47,800 --> 03:36:55,000
You would be controlled and you would have been totally dominated by China Russia because of the United States military and our ability to project power across

3947
03:36:55,040 --> 03:37:02,080
The entire world that that's not the case any disgusting pathetic fucking weasel that's afraid of their audience. That's gonna go and pretend

3948
03:37:02,080 --> 03:37:05,280
Oh, yeah, this is something. I don't support. Oh, we can't do this. I hate this

3949
03:37:05,280 --> 03:37:07,880
I think this guy's a fake weird fuck. I don't think you're being fake at all as my gold

3950
03:37:07,880 --> 03:37:10,920
I think you're authentically a disgusting fucking cunt at one point

3951
03:37:10,920 --> 03:37:15,280
Not long ago as my gold did pretend Nazi March on a World of Warcraft server with all of his followers

3952
03:37:15,840 --> 03:37:19,480
And I'm really offended by bringing up because there was this beautiful moment

3953
03:37:19,480 --> 03:37:23,000
I saw where he's leading the march and all his little fans are just buzzing around him the whole time

3954
03:37:23,000 --> 03:37:25,720
And then when he gets a bit confident and he jumps down a cliff

3955
03:37:25,720 --> 03:37:31,600
And he dies instantly and then for several minutes after his own followers continued to fall down at the exact same spot

3956
03:37:31,680 --> 03:37:38,800
Also dying over and over again while yelling mass suicide as my goal recognized that he had trained legions of men to willingly follow him off a cliff

3957
03:37:38,800 --> 03:37:42,840
And he was the happiest he'd ever been because you know what that's what they want you to follow the lead up

3958
03:37:46,960 --> 03:37:51,320
Off the fucking cliff and it's clear who would enjoy that kind of mindless devotion being made normal

3959
03:37:51,320 --> 03:37:55,480
Whether it's through explicit military propaganda or the people that jerked themselves stupid defending it

3960
03:37:55,480 --> 03:38:01,840
And if exposing one aspect of this 2026 vortex of shit means I occasionally have to engage in some drama slot videos

3961
03:38:02,280 --> 03:38:06,280
I'm willing to make that sacrifice the secondary point as I desperately try to come up with a meaningful takeaway to this video

3962
03:38:06,280 --> 03:38:09,120
So he's such a fucking loser, dude. What?

3963
03:38:09,880 --> 03:38:12,800
The funny thing is bro, if I was on Twitch

3964
03:38:12,800 --> 03:38:18,840
I would be covering as my gold fucking nonstop and I probably covering cuz on to because there'd be so much chatter crossover

3965
03:38:18,840 --> 03:38:24,520
It is just insane to me how people give his son a free pass for him

3966
03:38:24,520 --> 03:38:27,480
Basically never touching asthma. The only times historically

3967
03:38:27,520 --> 03:38:32,080
He's ever actually pushing as well as when I've given him a ton of shit for remaining silent on it

3968
03:38:32,080 --> 03:38:37,160
I just it's so crazy to me that you could share so much space with this guy and say basically fuck all the entire time

3969
03:38:38,280 --> 03:38:43,320
Because you're scared of his audience and because red round alliance, you're just trying to destroy the libs

3970
03:38:43,320 --> 03:38:45,760
That's it. You're all you care about are attacking the libs

3971
03:38:45,760 --> 03:38:52,560
That's why even this fucking cowardly fuck spent all of his time posting fucking revenge porn sex of me and fucking call me a pedophile

3972
03:38:52,560 --> 03:38:55,360
And attacking my kid to do another weird training to do other weird shit

3973
03:38:55,360 --> 03:38:57,080
And then for asthma, she's like look at this guy's bad

3974
03:38:57,080 --> 03:39:00,600
He's like he gives more serious critical attention to asthma goals viewpoints than than mine

3975
03:39:00,600 --> 03:39:03,360
It was not even saying much cuz he doesn't even deal with his language, but like

3976
03:39:04,480 --> 03:39:06,160
Okay

3977
03:39:06,160 --> 03:39:08,760
Interesting destiny in asthma gold was so quickly aligned on this issue

3978
03:39:08,760 --> 03:39:12,640
I mean I feel like the most obvious thing either of their fans would say about this other than I'm not American

3979
03:39:12,640 --> 03:39:17,360
Is this weird for me to group them together when they actually disagree on a lot of major topics and every well may be true

3980
03:39:17,360 --> 03:39:22,560
But it doesn't that interest you either since they are so split on all these other issues that I guess must be really important

3981
03:39:22,560 --> 03:39:26,560
But for some reason it seems like when we're talking about criticism of US imperial hegemony being skeptical

3982
03:39:26,560 --> 03:39:27,760
Not just the specific politicians

3983
03:39:27,760 --> 03:39:30,880
But of the entire military apparatus and the role it's taken in the world then suddenly

3984
03:39:30,880 --> 03:39:33,760
It's just like a perfect mirror between the apparent rational liberal

3985
03:39:34,320 --> 03:39:37,200
This is the all roads lead to Rome where it's like oh shit

3986
03:39:37,200 --> 03:39:41,280
He actually understands at least one argument that I would give and so now he knows that we're not aligned, right?

3987
03:39:41,280 --> 03:39:44,440
It's like but this is even stronger evidence for how horrible person are first of all

3988
03:39:44,640 --> 03:39:47,760
Nothing about Dan or northern line or any of this drama

3989
03:39:47,760 --> 03:39:52,560
Had anything to do with like US hegemony around the world or whatever like but again

3990
03:39:52,560 --> 03:39:57,760
I understand also because when you're left, they you just have no concept of policy at all, but yes

3991
03:39:58,080 --> 03:40:00,080
Like does he think I've ever talked

3992
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:03,940
about US foreign policy where I'm like, well, actually, I guess, from in his eyes, if he's

3993
03:40:03,940 --> 03:40:07,840
a lefty, I am pro, US hegemony, because he just wants the US to literally pull back

3994
03:40:07,840 --> 03:40:10,760
every deployment, every base, everything from every single part of the world and let China

3995
03:40:10,760 --> 03:40:14,120
Russia take it all over. So I guess in that sense, I am pros pro, US hegemony, but not

3996
03:40:14,120 --> 03:40:17,640
pro US fucking killing children in Iran or the current war, the current administration

3997
03:40:17,640 --> 03:40:19,360
or any of that bullshit, but whatever.

3998
03:40:20,200 --> 03:40:24,020
Yeah, it's kind of like class reductionism, right, where you just dumb everything down

3999
03:40:24,020 --> 03:40:28,320
to class and nothing is about real racism or racism. That's just about class, right?

4000
03:40:28,480 --> 03:40:32,440
Sure, or in this sense, it's this campus thing of everything that America touches or anything

4001
03:40:32,440 --> 03:40:36,280
related to the US is bad, unironically, anything like the US interest is bad, and then everything

4002
03:40:36,280 --> 03:40:40,280
else is good. Capitalist and the creature that clearly just has a fascist, even it's

4003
03:40:40,280 --> 03:40:42,720
not capitalism in there. A perfect mirror.

4004
03:40:42,720 --> 03:40:43,880
Yes, class reductionism.

4005
03:40:45,120 --> 03:40:48,200
And the creature that clearly just has a fascist king. Something to think about, probably,

4006
03:40:48,240 --> 03:40:50,880
I don't want to linger on this anymore. I mean, like, how many parallels do you want

4007
03:40:50,880 --> 03:40:54,720
me to draw between fucking Asmon gold and his son or between the far right and the far

4008
03:40:54,720 --> 03:41:01,600
left, like the people have brought up the horseshoe so much because of how weirdly aligned.

4009
03:41:01,600 --> 03:41:03,840
It seems like the two political extremes are right now.

4010
03:41:04,880 --> 03:41:07,840
I think it's damaged my soul in a way I will never recover from Happy Halloween.

4011
03:41:11,440 --> 03:41:13,800
Don't you just people were mad at you because you got out over your skis and did something

4012
03:41:13,800 --> 03:41:17,240
stupid, and you got hate for it. And then you had to like even dedicated to maybe he'll

4013
03:41:17,240 --> 03:41:18,880
have as an over the credits to you know,

4014
03:41:20,400 --> 03:41:24,520
genuflect in front of an angry mob and go like, I made a mistake. And it's probably naive to say

4015
03:41:24,520 --> 03:41:26,920
that there's not an element of that. But really like the.

4016
03:41:28,080 --> 03:41:31,200
Why do I hear some people use the term genuflect? Remember to use the obscure links?

4017
03:41:31,240 --> 03:41:31,680
Love you.

4018
03:41:34,560 --> 03:41:36,640
Not even American either. What the fuck?

4019
03:41:37,800 --> 03:41:42,800
Who him? Yes. Yeah, that's not American. Wait, he says he's a dual citizen.

4020
03:41:43,920 --> 03:41:46,080
Oh, oh, did he? Oh, shit, I wasn't here for that.

4021
03:41:46,120 --> 03:41:46,960
He said, um,

4022
03:41:47,520 --> 03:41:53,280
or do you think he was from? I don't know fucking Canadian or some shit. Oh, maybe he's a Canadian

4023
03:41:53,280 --> 03:41:57,280
dual citizen? I don't know. Or is it just a room? No, no, he has an Aussie accent. No.

4024
03:41:58,080 --> 03:42:00,120
Did he? I don't know. I don't hear accents anymore.

4025
03:42:00,760 --> 03:42:03,760
Because every time I hear them on the radar and I mix up Aussie and British all the time.

4026
03:42:03,760 --> 03:42:11,320
So fucking true. Did you chat still going strong? We have 85 chatters. Is that dad?

4027
03:42:11,320 --> 03:42:14,360
Should they be allowed to? Oh, I bet it's connections that have been timed out.

4028
03:42:14,360 --> 03:42:16,840
So you can't make a new connection. Hopefully. Hopefully you can't hack it with the current.

4029
03:42:17,840 --> 03:42:26,800
It's dead. Stephen. It's coming back.

4030
03:42:26,800 --> 03:42:32,160
Chat finally died. Oh, okay. I'll fix it. Or we're waiting for the PHP guys, I guess.

4031
03:42:38,320 --> 03:42:44,240
It's probably just one guy. I don't like, I don't think so. I hope not. Wait, why is it?

4032
03:42:44,640 --> 03:42:47,440
What's the story? Is there a YouTube video on this? I can watch. What's the story on why

4033
03:42:47,440 --> 03:42:51,520
this vulnerability is going live early? Is it like scheduled to go live early? Or why would

4034
03:42:51,520 --> 03:42:58,880
that even be the case or what's? One just leaked the exploit and then a bunch of people panicked

4035
03:42:58,880 --> 03:43:02,560
and took their shit down. Oh, wait, the exploit is already people already know what it is?

4036
03:43:03,760 --> 03:43:10,560
Yes. Oh, who leaked it? Was it like a malicious actor? Was it by mistake or?

4037
03:43:11,920 --> 03:43:18,400
I'm unsure. Yeah, I'm not the guy for that. Also, your um,

4038
03:43:19,280 --> 03:43:25,760
omni-chat should still be working, by the way. Sure. Let me get a rest from. Hold on a second.

4039
03:43:32,320 --> 03:43:42,800
Okay, time for us to smack talk.

4040
03:43:51,440 --> 03:43:54,240
Wow, nice smack talking. Good job.

4041
03:44:00,480 --> 03:44:07,040
All right. I know my place. I am second in command here. No, you should know yours as well.

4042
03:44:07,680 --> 03:44:12,480
You're above everybody else.

4043
03:44:23,600 --> 03:44:26,560
I am just a humble servant of God.

4044
03:44:28,480 --> 03:44:32,080
Really? Name every disciple.

4045
03:44:33,200 --> 03:44:47,040
Jonathan, Ryan, David, the Patrick star.

4046
03:44:51,040 --> 03:44:54,240
That's close enough. Okay.

4047
03:44:58,480 --> 03:44:59,320
Mmm.

4048
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:08,480
What's new with you, anything fun going on in food shops world or what?

4049
03:45:08,480 --> 03:45:20,540
After four years of streaming, I finally decided to take Tuesdays off, so I am here offline.

4050
03:45:20,540 --> 03:45:22,720
What are you going to do with your days off?

4051
03:45:22,720 --> 03:45:25,680
I don't know, just take an extra break day.

4052
03:45:25,680 --> 03:45:34,740
I've only had one day off, which is Friday, for a couple of months, maybe a year or so.

4053
03:45:34,740 --> 03:45:38,040
Oh, so you were taking two whole days off a week, really?

4054
03:45:38,040 --> 03:45:45,440
Yeah, like, it took a lot of deliberation for me to get there, but I finally decided

4055
03:45:45,440 --> 03:45:48,300
that I want to get two days off.

4056
03:45:48,300 --> 03:45:50,380
I was like, "Damn, I feel kind of bad."

4057
03:45:50,380 --> 03:45:56,220
It's like, "What happened to my passion? What happened to our drive?"

4058
03:45:56,220 --> 03:45:59,080
"La passión, yeah, it's gone."

4059
03:45:59,080 --> 03:46:06,020
Yeah, that initial manic state that you get into when you start consecration disappeared.

4060
03:46:06,020 --> 03:46:07,660
Poof.

4061
03:46:07,660 --> 03:46:17,100
"Maybe you need to switch up your niche, have you considered Warhammer 40K?"

4062
03:46:17,100 --> 03:46:19,500
Yeah, I'll probably do Warhammer 40K.

4063
03:46:19,500 --> 03:46:27,760
I bet I can give better reactions than the certain channel that people can then pirate

4064
03:46:27,760 --> 03:46:36,220
paid membership locked Warhammer shit from.

4065
03:46:36,220 --> 03:46:44,220
Did you know that they aren't even there for Connor?

4066
03:46:44,220 --> 03:46:51,220
Like, they being his audience, or...

4067
03:46:51,220 --> 03:46:52,220
Mm-hmm.

4068
03:46:52,220 --> 03:46:57,740
I've been told that he isn't even liked by the Warhammer community and that he just gets

4069
03:46:57,740 --> 03:47:03,460
behind the paywall so that he can then live react to it so that other people can watch

4070
03:47:03,460 --> 03:47:07,100
the content, but it could be wrong.

4071
03:47:07,100 --> 03:47:08,660
Right.

4072
03:47:08,660 --> 03:47:17,740
What is this stupid Fantano video?

4073
03:47:17,740 --> 03:47:18,740
Hi everyone.

4074
03:47:18,740 --> 03:47:21,540
This is the point Tano here.

4075
03:47:21,540 --> 03:47:26,380
God, I hate that every online person became political and it was always the worst politics.

4076
03:47:26,380 --> 03:47:27,380
Fuck.

4077
03:47:27,380 --> 03:47:32,740
Except for that, Jeremy rigs everything guy and the hardcore history guy Dan Carlin or whatever.

4078
03:47:32,740 --> 03:47:36,420
The internet's busiest music nerd and yes, today I'm disappointed in one of my favorite

4079
03:47:36,420 --> 03:47:40,580
guys, one of the best rockers of all time, guitarist extraordinaire, Mr. Tom Morello.

4080
03:47:40,580 --> 03:47:44,140
You know, the zany sound effect six string man from the band Rage Against the Machine.

4081
03:47:44,140 --> 03:47:48,780
Now Tom Morello is known for maybe two things, one being in that band and two having some

4082
03:47:48,780 --> 03:47:52,900
pretty strong political opinions, or at least that's what I know him for because Rage Against

4083
03:47:52,900 --> 03:47:57,140
the Machine wasn't just a cool mainstream rap rock act at one point.

4084
03:47:57,140 --> 03:48:01,060
No, they were like a literally a communist band that was like plastering Che Guevara's

4085
03:48:01,060 --> 03:48:04,580
face everywhere and believe it or not, they were not just doing it for the vibe.

4086
03:48:04,580 --> 03:48:08,500
They didn't confuse Chase face for like the misfit skull logo and we're like this is

4087
03:48:08,500 --> 03:48:11,600
going to be like a version of that and despite Tom and his other band members being pretty

4088
03:48:11,600 --> 03:48:15,540
open about their political stances, it surprises me every time when people find a way to get

4089
03:48:15,540 --> 03:48:18,820
offended over them as if like you don't already know what you're getting into when you're

4090
03:48:18,820 --> 03:48:23,180
watching a Tom Morello interview because recently he was in hot water again for I guess the

4091
03:48:23,180 --> 03:48:27,060
sin of not voting for Kamala Harris, but just to be clear, you do feel that people on the

4092
03:48:27,060 --> 03:48:28,060
left should have voted for Kamala Harris.

4093
03:48:28,060 --> 03:48:33,380
I'm crystal clear that people's conscience can like just on the last guy that we just

4094
03:48:33,380 --> 03:48:36,420
watched I was talking about like you know the fucking the horseshoe is real and everything

4095
03:48:36,420 --> 03:48:40,340
and it's so funny that he's trying to say I'm like asthma gold when like I feel like

4096
03:48:40,340 --> 03:48:43,140
people are mixing sides of something like I didn't know I thought that this guy was

4097
03:48:43,140 --> 03:48:49,260
about to be critical of him because he was saying that he supports Trump or Maga or something.

4098
03:48:49,260 --> 03:48:53,700
But instead it's the total other thing about the support of not voting for Kamala oh my

4099
03:48:53,700 --> 03:48:58,780
god do the goal the goal of the video was to associate you with Aspen gold like it was

4100
03:48:58,780 --> 03:49:02,100
so clear that was the goal oh no no no but I'm saying for this video right now I thought

4101
03:49:02,100 --> 03:49:05,420
that Fantana was about to get mad at this guy for being like a Maga person but instead

4102
03:49:05,420 --> 03:49:08,540
he's about to I'm guessing he's about to support him for not voting for Kamala saying that

4103
03:49:08,540 --> 03:49:09,540
that was a base take.

4104
03:49:09,540 --> 03:49:10,540
No way.

4105
03:49:10,540 --> 03:49:15,300
Yes he's about to of course not allow them to do something that they fundamentally believe

4106
03:49:15,300 --> 03:49:16,300
is wrong.

4107
03:49:16,300 --> 03:49:18,300
I was the scheduling secretary for United States Senator Alan Cranston.

4108
03:49:18,300 --> 03:49:22,180
I saw how the corporate Democrats sausage is made it is worse than you think and there

4109
03:49:22,180 --> 03:49:26,620
is a reason there is a righteous fury at the at the corporate controlled money controlled

4110
03:49:26,620 --> 03:49:30,140
electoral system we have that is absolutely legitimate and people cannot choke down voting

4111
03:49:30,140 --> 03:49:33,060
for a candidate I understand it cannot choke down voting for a candidate that's responsible

4112
03:49:33,060 --> 03:49:35,460
for what happened Gaza both sides and they just they can't do it and I'm not going to

4113
03:49:35,460 --> 03:49:38,780
blame them but it's but I think that putting Kamala responsible for God's hourly thing

4114
03:49:38,780 --> 03:49:43,740
put it on the fucking Democratic party to create the world that we want and not point

4115
03:49:43,740 --> 03:49:46,180
fingers of people that were just like my conscience didn't allow me to do that so it's your fault

4116
03:49:46,180 --> 03:49:49,780
I just don't I will not go sign that I got an interest in where you would have forgotten

4117
03:49:49,780 --> 03:49:53,260
I certainly did not you did not okay now I live in a state where you know that's it made

4118
03:49:53,260 --> 03:49:55,740
out of movement here but I just couldn't do it when's the last time you didn't vote for

4119
03:49:55,740 --> 03:49:59,820
the Democratic I don't can't remember the last time I did oh my god the horror oh no that you

4120
03:49:59,820 --> 03:50:09,820
[BLANK_AUDIO]

4121
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:02,760
- Adity, how could you not vote for Kamala Harris?

4122
03:50:02,760 --> 03:50:04,840
- Okay, not to completely mock every which way

4123
03:50:04,840 --> 03:50:06,080
that Tom is getting some pushback

4124
03:50:06,080 --> 03:50:07,520
on this recent interview clip,

4125
03:50:07,520 --> 03:50:09,220
because I do think there is some nuance

4126
03:50:09,220 --> 03:50:10,880
to this conversation, but honestly,

4127
03:50:10,880 --> 03:50:12,280
I'm having a hard time finding why people

4128
03:50:12,280 --> 03:50:13,580
are so pissed off about it.

4129
03:50:13,580 --> 03:50:16,080
Because again, Tom did become famous

4130
03:50:16,080 --> 03:50:17,920
starting a communist rap rock band.

4131
03:50:17,920 --> 03:50:19,640
And while I'm sure there are communists

4132
03:50:19,640 --> 03:50:23,220
who did vote for Kamala Harris in the 2024 election,

4133
03:50:23,220 --> 03:50:24,960
can you be surprised that there are maybe some

4134
03:50:24,960 --> 03:50:27,160
that did so while holding--

4135
03:50:27,160 --> 03:50:29,200
- Remember also, I've been shouting at this

4136
03:50:29,200 --> 03:50:30,840
like fucking four years, 'cause Bosch

4137
03:50:30,840 --> 03:50:32,480
and all these other losers don't always say the same.

4138
03:50:32,480 --> 03:50:34,560
- Caught a little bit of fascist bleeds.

4139
03:50:34,560 --> 03:50:36,720
When push comes to shove, when the time comes,

4140
03:50:36,720 --> 03:50:39,040
liberals will always side with fascists.

4141
03:50:39,040 --> 03:50:40,920
Who are the ones that are making the arguments

4142
03:50:40,920 --> 03:50:44,000
why you shouldn't have supported the Democratic candidate?

4143
03:50:44,000 --> 03:50:47,080
Who are the ones that seem to be okay with the fascist,

4144
03:50:47,080 --> 03:50:48,600
with Donald Trump winning the election?

4145
03:50:48,600 --> 03:50:49,880
Hey, go figure.

4146
03:50:49,880 --> 03:50:51,520
It's the lefties.

4147
03:50:51,520 --> 03:50:53,400
Oh my God, who could have ever guessed

4148
03:50:53,400 --> 03:50:54,240
that that would happen?

4149
03:50:54,240 --> 03:50:55,720
Oh my goodness.

4150
03:50:55,720 --> 03:50:57,720
- They snarked the Democratic Party.

4151
03:50:57,720 --> 03:50:58,560
- They did.

4152
03:50:58,560 --> 03:51:00,360
- They're okay with it, and they're totally fine with it.

4153
03:51:00,360 --> 03:51:01,320
Both sides.

4154
03:51:01,320 --> 03:51:03,760
- Their nose or abstain from voting completely.

4155
03:51:03,760 --> 03:51:05,960
If there was going to be a political ideology

4156
03:51:05,960 --> 03:51:08,400
that looks at our two-party system and sees,

4157
03:51:08,400 --> 03:51:10,120
there's not really an option here for me.

4158
03:51:10,120 --> 03:51:11,960
Like yeah, I think it would be a communist.

4159
03:51:11,960 --> 03:51:13,920
Plus on top of it, I feel like the outrage

4160
03:51:13,920 --> 03:51:15,520
over what Tom is saying in this clip

4161
03:51:15,520 --> 03:51:16,920
is misplaced for another reason,

4162
03:51:16,920 --> 03:51:18,800
because do the people reacting to this

4163
03:51:18,800 --> 03:51:21,120
not know how our own electoral college system works?

4164
03:51:21,120 --> 03:51:22,240
From what I understand,

4165
03:51:22,240 --> 03:51:23,840
Tom Morel lives out in frickin' California.

4166
03:51:23,840 --> 03:51:26,040
- This is also a red herring bullshit

4167
03:51:26,040 --> 03:51:28,800
retard argument for people to try to escape

4168
03:51:28,800 --> 03:51:30,320
from the merits of what they're saying.

4169
03:51:30,320 --> 03:51:32,680
If you didn't vote because you didn't think

4170
03:51:32,680 --> 03:51:35,560
your vote mattered, then you would just say that.

4171
03:51:35,560 --> 03:51:36,960
This is the same thing when people are like,

4172
03:51:36,960 --> 03:51:37,880
Hassan, don't you think your coverage

4173
03:51:37,880 --> 03:51:38,720
was going to be irresponsible about it?

4174
03:51:38,720 --> 03:51:40,760
I'm like, whoa, I don't think I could have changed

4175
03:51:40,760 --> 03:51:42,480
the, I couldn't have moved the needle anyway.

4176
03:51:42,480 --> 03:51:44,520
- That's not what, nobody's asking that, right?

4177
03:51:44,520 --> 03:51:46,640
When people do this, they want to have it both ways

4178
03:51:46,640 --> 03:51:47,640
where they want to have credit

4179
03:51:47,640 --> 03:51:50,040
for being like a based principal voter abstainer.

4180
03:51:50,040 --> 03:51:51,680
But then they also want to like not catch too much heat.

4181
03:51:51,680 --> 03:51:53,800
So like, did I vote for Kamala?

4182
03:51:53,800 --> 03:51:54,640
Of course not.

4183
03:51:54,640 --> 03:51:56,560
I don't think my vote would have mattered much though,

4184
03:51:56,560 --> 03:51:57,400
senpai.

4185
03:51:57,400 --> 03:51:59,040
I don't think my vote would have actually changed the outcome.

4186
03:51:59,040 --> 03:51:59,880
- But I didn't vote for her.

4187
03:51:59,880 --> 03:52:02,000
- It was like pick, choose a fucking lane pussy.

4188
03:52:02,000 --> 03:52:03,360
Choose a fucking lane.

4189
03:52:03,360 --> 03:52:04,440
My God.

4190
03:52:04,440 --> 03:52:05,280
- It's a surprise.

4191
03:52:05,280 --> 03:52:07,240
- One of our own electoral college system works.

4192
03:52:07,240 --> 03:52:09,160
From what I understand, Tom Morel lives out

4193
03:52:09,160 --> 03:52:10,200
in frickin' California.

4194
03:52:10,200 --> 03:52:12,040
One of the bluest goddamn states in the union.

4195
03:52:12,040 --> 03:52:14,720
Oh, and on top of it, the election was two goddamn years ago.

4196
03:52:14,720 --> 03:52:16,800
What does it matter if Tom Morelle didn't vote

4197
03:52:16,800 --> 03:52:18,320
for Kamala Harris in a blue state,

4198
03:52:18,320 --> 03:52:19,560
two years after the election,

4199
03:52:19,560 --> 03:52:21,400
where he is finally making his opinions

4200
03:52:21,400 --> 03:52:23,320
and stance known from what I remember.

4201
03:52:23,320 --> 03:52:25,120
It's not like he was running up and down the street that year,

4202
03:52:25,120 --> 03:52:27,960
telling people no, no, don't vote for Kamala Harris.

4203
03:52:27,960 --> 03:52:29,120
I'm telling you it was Tom Morelle

4204
03:52:29,120 --> 03:52:30,440
from Rage As The Machine, don't do it.

4205
03:52:30,440 --> 03:52:31,600
- Some people have to seem to be confused,

4206
03:52:31,600 --> 03:52:33,960
but I always vote in every local and every national election

4207
03:52:33,960 --> 03:52:35,480
for every office and every ballot initiative

4208
03:52:35,480 --> 03:52:36,600
since I was 18 years old.

4209
03:52:36,600 --> 03:52:38,480
Some of my greatest civil rights heroes have fought and died

4210
03:52:38,480 --> 03:52:40,040
so that we can all vote and I honor their memory

4211
03:52:40,040 --> 03:52:41,520
in a ballot box every single time.

4212
03:52:41,520 --> 03:52:43,200
To some of us, especially those of us like myself

4213
03:52:43,200 --> 03:52:44,880
who have been scheduling secretaries for US senators,

4214
03:52:44,880 --> 03:52:46,600
it often seems like a morally reprehensible choice

4215
03:52:46,600 --> 03:52:47,840
between compromise corporate democrats

4216
03:52:47,840 --> 03:52:49,000
and fascist minority republicans.

4217
03:52:49,000 --> 03:52:50,160
While I live in California, I have been luxury

4218
03:52:50,160 --> 03:52:51,320
of winning my conscience for president

4219
03:52:51,320 --> 03:52:52,480
for third party candidates that bear a line

4220
03:52:52,480 --> 03:52:54,260
with my ideas of justice and equality.

4221
03:52:54,260 --> 03:52:55,920
But in any and every contest that makes

4222
03:52:55,920 --> 03:52:57,120
my mom every day-- - Good sky out of there.

4223
03:52:57,120 --> 03:52:59,120
- We have to fight the fascists every which way we can,

4224
03:52:59,120 --> 03:53:00,760
recognizing that even if there's but an inch of difference

4225
03:53:00,760 --> 03:53:02,520
between two candidates, there are a lot of vulnerable people

4226
03:53:02,520 --> 03:53:03,960
who could be greatly harmed in that inch.

4227
03:53:03,960 --> 03:53:05,800
So vote your ass off, but don't just exercise your right

4228
03:53:05,800 --> 03:53:07,840
to vote, exercise your right to fight for, organize for,

4229
03:53:07,840 --> 03:53:09,520
struggle for, and manifest the kind of world you'd like

4230
03:53:09,520 --> 03:53:11,920
to really see without compromise and without apologies

4231
03:53:11,920 --> 03:53:13,800
before, during, and after election day.

4232
03:53:13,800 --> 03:53:15,360
- With all that being said, I'm not gonna sit here

4233
03:53:15,360 --> 03:53:17,560
and act like a Kamala Harris presidency was going to run

4234
03:53:17,560 --> 03:53:19,240
the exact same as a Trump presidency.

4235
03:53:19,240 --> 03:53:21,920
If I may bring up one teeny, tiny example,

4236
03:53:21,920 --> 03:53:24,160
the U.S. aid cuts that Elon Musk ushered in

4237
03:53:24,160 --> 03:53:26,280
under Trump-- - Is this controversial now?

4238
03:53:26,280 --> 03:53:27,960
Like, what the fuck?

4239
03:53:27,960 --> 03:53:29,320
- What?

4240
03:53:29,320 --> 03:53:32,760
- Like, what, like, oh, well, I'm not gonna pretend

4241
03:53:32,760 --> 03:53:34,280
that they are exactly the same.

4242
03:53:34,280 --> 03:53:38,320
If I may bring up, be so bold as to bring up one difference.

4243
03:53:38,320 --> 03:53:41,680
Like, dude, come on, dude, like what?

4244
03:53:41,680 --> 03:53:43,640
- Wait for the, is what can--

4245
03:53:43,640 --> 03:53:46,840
- No, no, because he's acting like, oh,

4246
03:53:46,840 --> 03:53:50,760
comparing them as not the same, even slightly,

4247
03:53:50,760 --> 03:53:54,840
is like a massive offense to everybody else, right?

4248
03:53:54,840 --> 03:53:56,280
- Right, just rephrase that one more time.

4249
03:53:56,280 --> 03:53:57,200
Comparing them.

4250
03:53:58,560 --> 03:54:02,360
- So, he is afraid of not saying

4251
03:54:02,360 --> 03:54:04,240
that Kamala Harris equals Donald Trump.

4252
03:54:05,280 --> 03:54:07,680
- He is afraid of not saying--

4253
03:54:07,680 --> 03:54:12,680
- He is, he is, never mind, just keep on going.

4254
03:54:12,880 --> 03:54:13,720
- Fuck you.

4255
03:54:13,720 --> 03:54:14,840
- I'll be going to total in death counts

4256
03:54:14,840 --> 03:54:15,760
that go up to the millions.

4257
03:54:15,760 --> 03:54:17,840
And personally, I believe for as long as we have access

4258
03:54:17,840 --> 03:54:19,960
to electoral options in our political system,

4259
03:54:19,960 --> 03:54:21,320
we should use them to our advantage

4260
03:54:21,320 --> 03:54:22,680
as best we can to reduce harm.

4261
03:54:22,680 --> 03:54:23,720
And if not turn things around,

4262
03:54:23,720 --> 03:54:25,720
at least slow the progression of things getting worse.

4263
03:54:25,720 --> 03:54:27,400
In addition to that, I should also make mention

4264
03:54:27,400 --> 03:54:29,640
of another key topic that came up in Tom's reasoning

4265
03:54:29,640 --> 03:54:30,880
for not voting for Kamala.

4266
03:54:30,880 --> 03:54:32,200
And that's the genocide in Gaza.

4267
03:54:32,200 --> 03:54:34,520
Now, personally, would I weigh in other factors

4268
03:54:34,520 --> 03:54:35,880
when deciding whether or not to vote

4269
03:54:35,880 --> 03:54:38,480
for a new administration in a national election?

4270
03:54:38,480 --> 03:54:39,320
Yes.

4271
03:54:39,320 --> 03:54:41,920
However, the idea of funding a very violent

4272
03:54:41,920 --> 03:54:44,680
and a broadcast across the world

4273
03:54:44,680 --> 03:54:46,400
on the internet, quite frequently,

4274
03:54:46,400 --> 03:54:48,840
genocide that is disturbing, horrifying.

4275
03:54:48,840 --> 03:54:51,160
Yeah, I think not wanting to support such a thing

4276
03:54:51,160 --> 03:54:54,720
monetarily or politically is a perfectly valid request

4277
03:54:54,720 --> 03:54:57,520
for a political party's base to make of the politicians

4278
03:54:57,520 --> 03:54:58,760
that are supposed to be representing them.

4279
03:54:58,760 --> 03:55:00,440
It's actually like a very tiny story.

4280
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:03,840
small ask, very simple ask, but Kamala and the Biden administration wouldn't even acknowledge

4281
03:55:03,840 --> 03:55:06,840
the political reality of this situation, even for optics sake.

4282
03:55:06,840 --> 03:55:10,200
And I bring all of that up to say that the split on this topic among Democratic voters

4283
03:55:10,200 --> 03:55:14,360
right now is pretty bold and pretty clear, like not only is an aggressive stance against

4284
03:55:14,360 --> 03:55:18,640
the genocide in Gaza, popular among most voters in the party, it was also popular at

4285
03:55:18,640 --> 03:55:22,720
the time to in the 2024 election, and was seemingly a deciding factor for a lot of voters who

4286
03:55:22,720 --> 03:55:25,840
decided to just kind of opt out that year, like the writing was on the wall and there

4287
03:55:25,840 --> 03:55:30,320
were no shortage of voices and places and platforms that you could go not only online,

4288
03:55:30,320 --> 03:55:34,360
but in person to and hear perfectly well reason arguments and sensible takes on why the DNC

4289
03:55:34,360 --> 03:55:37,560
should be taking a stance against this genocide by the way that when he says that there's

4290
03:55:37,560 --> 03:55:40,880
no shortage of reasonable, there weren't any, even today, you asking his people, Oh, okay.

4291
03:55:40,880 --> 03:55:44,440
So what should our stance be? What should we do? Like half of them might say, Well,

4292
03:55:44,440 --> 03:55:46,760
obviously we need to cut off our relationship with this real completely. I was like, Oh,

4293
03:55:46,760 --> 03:55:49,000
okay, that's it. So we cut off a relationship with this real completely. Let's say they

4294
03:55:49,000 --> 03:55:51,720
genocide them even harder. We just stop. We don't care anymore. We're done with it at that

4295
03:55:51,720 --> 03:55:57,360
point. Like what nobody had any actual thought out anything about anything heavy with this

4296
03:55:57,360 --> 03:55:58,360
vote.

4297
03:55:58,360 --> 03:56:03,760
Yeah, you just bad simply needed to do was embrace it as a position and most likely the

4298
03:56:03,760 --> 03:56:07,040
tens of thousands of voters that Kamala would have needed to win would have felt seen and

4299
03:56:07,040 --> 03:56:10,040
heard right come out to the polls for her would have been that simple. And unfortunately,

4300
03:56:10,040 --> 03:56:13,840
Tom Morello's little clip here is a sign of a larger discourse problem in a lot of leftist

4301
03:56:13,840 --> 03:56:17,040
politics right now. And that's where instead of putting the blame on these politicians

4302
03:56:17,040 --> 03:56:20,880
who don't acknowledge clear political realities and take positions that their voters and their

4303
03:56:20,880 --> 03:56:24,320
supporters are actually hoping for them to advocate for are loudly telling them to advocate

4304
03:56:24,320 --> 03:56:28,000
for they advocate for nothing. They offer nothing but half measures. And then when nobody is

4305
03:56:28,000 --> 03:56:32,200
excited about that, they oh my God, she wasn't she wasn't trying to push for Medicare for

4306
03:56:32,200 --> 03:56:36,560
all in a country that was voting for fucking Hitler. Why wasn't you trying to push the

4307
03:56:36,560 --> 03:56:41,360
most extreme healthcare option? Oh my God, turn around and blame the voter as commander

4308
03:56:41,360 --> 03:56:46,680
in chief. I will ensure America always has the strongest, most lethal fighting force in

4309
03:56:46,680 --> 03:56:50,920
the world. Would you have done something? Which is what we should have. It's a military.

4310
03:56:50,920 --> 03:56:56,480
That's the point of my military. Wait, you know who else support it? You know who else

4311
03:56:56,480 --> 03:57:04,160
support Medicare for all? Oh, Hitler. I'm kidding. I don't know. No, no, no. Nice.

4312
03:57:04,160 --> 03:57:07,800
There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of and I've been a part of of most of

4313
03:57:07,800 --> 03:57:11,160
the decisions that have had impact. Listen, I plan on having a Republican in my cabinet.

4314
03:57:11,160 --> 03:57:15,280
Yeah, right. What's the difference between Joe Biden and me? Well, that will be one of

4315
03:57:15,280 --> 03:57:18,240
the differences I'm going to have a Republican like that. And again, while I think on a certain

4316
03:57:18,240 --> 03:57:22,320
baseline level of civic duty, for the most part, like it's just so much great political

4317
03:57:22,320 --> 03:57:26,600
analysis. Yes, it was the Liz Cheney thing that definitely hurt her so much as you couldn't

4318
03:57:26,600 --> 03:57:29,320
win the election because we were so closely aligned with Liz Cheney. Who is an American

4319
03:57:29,320 --> 03:57:33,160
hero, by the way? Good for her for the J six committee. But for some reason, is there one

4320
03:57:33,160 --> 03:57:36,360
mom, Donnie can appear infinite numbers of times with Donald Trump. And that's actually

4321
03:57:36,360 --> 03:57:40,400
always a based and good thing because he's being politically shrewd. But when anybody

4322
03:57:40,400 --> 03:57:43,080
else appears anyway, we don't like it's actually the worst thing ever. And it means that there

4323
03:57:43,080 --> 03:57:49,320
are massive fucking sellout. And you should not be skipping out on significant national

4324
03:57:49,320 --> 03:57:52,760
elections like these, especially if you do happen to live in a red state. Far more of

4325
03:57:52,760 --> 03:57:56,600
the blame in this situation is laid upon Joe Biden deciding to run again rather than pass

4326
03:57:56,600 --> 03:58:00,320
the torch to Kamala and setting things up socially and politically so that she was more likely

4327
03:58:00,320 --> 03:58:04,680
to win more blame goes to the Democratic National Convention for not properly running a primary

4328
03:58:04,680 --> 03:58:08,520
more blame goes to Kamala Harris and her team for not formulating a political platform that

4329
03:58:08,520 --> 03:58:13,640
people were actually excited about all of those factors. I'm actually curious what your position

4330
03:58:13,640 --> 03:58:18,280
on this is. But like, don't you think that this is like hindsight is 2020? Like you don't

4331
03:58:18,280 --> 03:58:22,240
know whether or not Joe Biden would have won or not. You are only saying this because you

4332
03:58:22,240 --> 03:58:26,000
know how the past has happened. I mean, it depends on who you are. Peace code knows 100 million

4333
03:58:26,000 --> 03:58:29,000
percent that Biden would have lost even worse. So you know, if you're peace code, unless you

4334
03:58:29,000 --> 03:58:33,440
push him on it on an opinion, does again, then it's vibes. I mean, I, yeah, I think it's

4335
03:58:33,440 --> 03:58:37,800
hindsight. I think that it's, it's like on one end, people will say that like, obviously

4336
03:58:37,800 --> 03:58:43,560
Biden would have lost on another end. Like, I think that, I mean, he beat Trump last time.

4337
03:58:43,560 --> 03:58:46,360
There might be a lot of people who literally just vote for him because of name recognition.

4338
03:58:46,360 --> 03:58:50,160
There might be, but like, like I could see either world being a thing where, oh, he loses

4339
03:58:50,160 --> 03:58:53,880
even harder because the debate went so poorly and because people are so unhappy with the

4340
03:58:53,880 --> 03:58:56,760
economy that have, but like, I mean, I can see it going either way, but there are some

4341
03:58:56,760 --> 03:59:00,160
people who act like, oh, no, it was so obvious that this or this should have happened. And

4342
03:59:00,160 --> 03:59:04,920
I don't think anybody was immediately. Yeah, the agnostic position, right? Yeah, exactly.

4343
03:59:04,920 --> 03:59:09,440
More significant to the final result of the 2024 election, not so much a single communist

4344
03:59:09,440 --> 03:59:13,320
guitarist abstaining while living in California, which was going to go blue anyway. I think

4345
03:59:13,320 --> 03:59:16,040
I'm going to leave it here. Let me know what you think about all of this hullabaloo. I'm

4346
03:59:16,040 --> 03:59:19,720
sure you will. You totally owned all the people that thought that Tom Morello single vote in

4347
03:59:19,720 --> 03:59:28,400
California was the determining outcome of the election. Good job, Fantano. Three days

4348
03:59:28,400 --> 03:59:39,480
ago. Epic. What is this? Oh, my king. I hate these motherfuckers. But first, let's quickly

4349
03:59:39,480 --> 03:59:45,040
check in on another debate from last night where Alaska Senator Dan Sullivan faced off

4350
03:59:45,040 --> 03:59:50,200
against a Democratic challenger, Mary Peltola. And throughout the debate, Sullivan noticed

4351
03:59:50,200 --> 03:59:54,480
something very unusual. It was unusual. Mary Peltola brought a giant stack of cue cards

4352
03:59:54,480 --> 03:59:58,920
with her to the debate was answering every question, reading the answer to every question

4353
03:59:58,920 --> 03:59:59,560
on these cards.

4354
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:01,840
It was a move taken straight out of the Joe Biden playbook.

4355
04:00:01,840 --> 04:00:02,840
Take a look at this to believe it.

4356
04:00:02,840 --> 04:00:04,280
Alaska is--

4357
04:00:04,280 --> 04:00:05,240
Did Joe Biden-- is he--

4358
04:00:05,240 --> 04:00:07,120
I guess he's Joe Biden cheated in a debate

4359
04:00:07,120 --> 04:00:10,360
or that he needed to keep--

4360
04:00:10,360 --> 04:00:12,960
strategically placed on the teleprompter.

4361
04:00:12,960 --> 04:00:13,460
OK.

4362
04:00:13,460 --> 04:00:14,920
As a strategic military location, we

4363
04:00:14,920 --> 04:00:17,560
understand the importance of our national security

4364
04:00:17,560 --> 04:00:18,880
dating all the way back to our elders who

4365
04:00:18,880 --> 04:00:21,160
are part of the Army National Guard, the territorial guard.

4366
04:00:21,160 --> 04:00:22,920
But prices are too high for hard-working Alaskans

4367
04:00:22,920 --> 04:00:24,720
and DC politicians are waging forever wars that

4368
04:00:24,720 --> 04:00:26,760
are skyrocketing our costs.

4369
04:00:26,760 --> 04:00:29,040
I want to read my answers because I'm not capable of giving

4370
04:00:29,040 --> 04:00:29,640
my own answers.

4371
04:00:29,640 --> 04:00:31,480
I'd like to thank my staff for writing out the answers for me.

4372
04:00:31,480 --> 04:00:32,160
Seriously?

4373
04:00:32,160 --> 04:00:35,280
Does Mary Popola not actually know or have any of her own

4374
04:00:35,280 --> 04:00:35,800
opinions?

4375
04:00:35,800 --> 04:00:36,960
Is she not aware of current events?

4376
04:00:36,960 --> 04:00:37,800
What's going on here?

4377
04:00:37,800 --> 04:00:39,480
There's something very strange about that debate.

4378
04:00:39,480 --> 04:00:41,240
You're usually not allowed to have notes during a debate.

4379
04:00:41,240 --> 04:00:42,680
Now, keep in mind, this is the same far left.

4380
04:00:42,680 --> 04:00:44,440
Mary Popola, who is accused of assaulting

4381
04:00:44,440 --> 04:00:46,360
a member of her staff-- this is a New York Times report.

4382
04:00:46,360 --> 04:00:48,280
We're rating others with homophobic slurs.

4383
04:00:48,280 --> 04:00:50,200
Meanwhile, in Minnesota, the Democrat running for Senate,

4384
04:00:50,200 --> 04:00:52,360
the Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan just

4385
04:00:52,360 --> 04:00:55,120
blamed her boss Tim Walls for the state's rampant fraud.

4386
04:00:55,120 --> 04:00:57,000
In fact, she just absolved herself of any and all

4387
04:00:57,000 --> 04:00:59,280
responsibility, and during the debate, her challenger,

4388
04:00:59,280 --> 04:01:01,640
Michelle Tofoea, called her out in a massive way.

4389
04:01:01,640 --> 04:01:02,640
Take a look.

4390
04:01:02,640 --> 04:01:05,120
Only one of us let $9 billion walk out the door to fraud

4391
04:01:05,120 --> 04:01:07,840
to suggest that she somehow is going to be a fraud czar,

4392
04:01:07,840 --> 04:01:09,200
all of a sudden, talk about changing

4393
04:01:09,200 --> 04:01:10,960
tax when it becomes politically expedient.

4394
04:01:10,960 --> 04:01:12,880
My goodness, she was second in charge in this state,

4395
04:01:12,880 --> 04:01:14,840
and she's just going to point her finger at Governor Tim Walls

4396
04:01:14,840 --> 04:01:15,600
when she demanded.

4397
04:01:15,600 --> 04:01:17,960
She'd be the Walls Flanagan administration when she demanded

4398
04:01:17,960 --> 04:01:19,440
to be in the room where everything happened.

4399
04:01:19,440 --> 04:01:21,240
But suddenly, she has nothing to do with this.

4400
04:01:21,240 --> 04:01:21,760
My goodness.

4401
04:01:21,760 --> 04:01:23,440
Again, sell it to someone else.

4402
04:01:23,440 --> 04:01:25,560
That's how we have Minnesota, a one-pering race.

4403
04:01:25,560 --> 04:01:26,800
That's how Nick and Nick that race is.

4404
04:01:26,800 --> 04:01:27,640
We're going to continue to follow it.

4405
04:01:27,640 --> 04:01:28,960
Now, in the great state of Maine,

4406
04:01:28,960 --> 04:01:30,080
the Senate race is also tight.

4407
04:01:30,080 --> 04:01:32,720
Democrats around the country once believed that Maine

4408
04:01:32,720 --> 04:01:34,680
would be, quote, a state for Democrats to flip.

4409
04:01:34,680 --> 04:01:36,080
Many of the Democrats in Maine have

4410
04:01:36,080 --> 04:01:38,200
engaged in a shocking level of self-sabotage,

4411
04:01:38,200 --> 04:01:40,120
you know, unconscionable behavior in so many ways.

4412
04:01:40,120 --> 04:01:41,880
They nominated a communist with a Nazi tattoo

4413
04:01:41,880 --> 04:01:43,000
named Graham Plattner.

4414
04:01:43,000 --> 04:01:44,320
He pretended to be a working-class guy,

4415
04:01:44,320 --> 04:01:45,640
but actually grew up very wealthy.

4416
04:01:45,640 --> 04:01:47,960
And after he was accused of sexual assault and worse,

4417
04:01:47,960 --> 04:01:49,280
he had to drop out of the race.

4418
04:01:49,280 --> 04:01:52,080
In comes Graham Plattner 2.0, replaced by party elites

4419
04:01:52,080 --> 04:01:53,400
with a guy named Troy Jackson.

4420
04:01:53,400 --> 04:01:55,680
Troy Jackson is known all around the state of Maine

4421
04:01:55,680 --> 04:01:57,160
for his violent, violent temper.

4422
04:01:57,160 --> 04:01:58,760
He's a lack of impulse control.

4423
04:01:58,760 --> 04:02:00,120
This should be documented by police,

4424
04:02:00,120 --> 04:02:02,040
by his fellow state lawmakers,

4425
04:02:02,040 --> 04:02:04,080
others that work with him in the Maine State House.

4426
04:02:04,080 --> 04:02:06,360
Jackson also accused of domestic violence

4427
04:02:06,360 --> 04:02:08,040
by the mother of his two children,

4428
04:02:08,040 --> 04:02:10,020
who also happens to be his second cousin.

4429
04:02:11,320 --> 04:02:12,160
- What?

4430
04:02:12,160 --> 04:02:12,980
- Okay, hold on.

4431
04:02:12,980 --> 04:02:13,820
Wait a second.

4432
04:02:13,820 --> 04:02:14,660
- What is it?

4433
04:02:14,660 --> 04:02:16,840
- Wait, wait, wait, what is second cousin?

4434
04:02:16,840 --> 04:02:18,700
Are you even related at that point?

4435
04:02:21,500 --> 04:02:22,340
Hold on.

4436
04:02:22,340 --> 04:02:26,560
- Oh, where in family tree is second cousin?

4437
04:02:27,840 --> 04:02:29,040
- That's our candidate, man.

4438
04:02:29,040 --> 04:02:30,640
- A second cousin is someone who shares

4439
04:02:30,640 --> 04:02:32,680
great grandparents with you,

4440
04:02:32,680 --> 04:02:37,020
meaning your grandparents were siblings.

4441
04:02:38,960 --> 04:02:40,320
Oh, okay.

4442
04:02:40,320 --> 04:02:41,520
On a family tree, you and your second cousin

4443
04:02:41,520 --> 04:02:42,400
sit in the same generation

4444
04:02:42,400 --> 04:02:44,640
and your parents are first cousins.

4445
04:02:44,640 --> 04:02:49,640
So, second first cousin is once removed the same,

4446
04:02:49,760 --> 04:02:51,040
oh, first cousin, second cousin.

4447
04:02:51,040 --> 04:02:52,080
Oh, once removed is the next one.

4448
04:02:52,080 --> 04:02:57,080
Okay, so you and a sibling and then my grandma

4449
04:02:58,840 --> 04:03:02,680
and grandpa, my mom is a brother.

4450
04:03:02,680 --> 04:03:05,380
He is a kid, that would be my cousin.

4451
04:03:06,800 --> 04:03:10,760
But if my great grandfather had children,

4452
04:03:10,760 --> 04:03:13,360
those would be my grand uncle, grand uncle, grand uncle.

4453
04:03:13,360 --> 04:03:14,680
I don't even know who these people are, my family.

4454
04:03:14,680 --> 04:03:17,440
And then their children would be first cousin

4455
04:03:17,440 --> 04:03:19,880
once removed and then that, does this even count?

4456
04:03:19,880 --> 04:03:21,560
Is it incest or whatever at this point?

4457
04:03:21,560 --> 04:03:23,600
How related is everybody when you're at the point

4458
04:03:23,600 --> 04:03:25,360
of second cousin?

4459
04:03:25,360 --> 04:03:27,040
What is the average relation of a person

4460
04:03:27,040 --> 04:03:28,600
to another person?

4461
04:03:28,600 --> 04:03:29,840
- It's probably no more incestuous

4462
04:03:29,840 --> 04:03:32,080
than like a fucking tribal group back in the fucking

4463
04:03:32,080 --> 04:03:32,920
ice ages.

4464
04:03:32,920 --> 04:03:34,080
- Well, those were probably way more incestuous

4465
04:03:34,080 --> 04:03:35,520
to do my guess.

4466
04:03:35,520 --> 04:03:36,800
- Yeah.

4467
04:03:36,800 --> 04:03:38,720
Or like a ruined village.

4468
04:03:38,720 --> 04:03:39,560
- Yeah, maybe.

4469
04:03:39,560 --> 04:03:40,720
- Patient in a police report, both Jackson

4470
04:03:40,720 --> 04:03:42,880
and his cousin, former lover, denied the incident.

4471
04:03:42,880 --> 04:03:44,440
There's one guy on tape that said he saw something

4472
04:03:44,440 --> 04:03:45,280
in real life.

4473
04:03:45,280 --> 04:03:46,960
I don't know why people don't focus on that more.

4474
04:03:46,960 --> 04:03:49,040
But during last night's debate against Senator Collins,

4475
04:03:49,040 --> 04:03:50,440
I mean, you would think during a debate

4476
04:03:50,440 --> 04:03:51,960
you could at least reign in your temper

4477
04:03:51,960 --> 04:03:53,200
for an hour, hour and a half.

4478
04:03:53,200 --> 04:03:54,120
No, he couldn't.

4479
04:03:54,120 --> 04:03:56,280
After Collins jokingly referred to a protestor

4480
04:03:56,280 --> 04:03:58,480
against her is probably one of Jackson's supporters.

4481
04:03:58,480 --> 04:03:59,480
Take a look.

4482
04:03:59,480 --> 04:04:00,640
- Two issues.

4483
04:04:00,640 --> 04:04:02,920
- I'm sorry, somebody's interrupting.

4484
04:04:02,920 --> 04:04:04,760
We'll have our security deal with that.

4485
04:04:04,760 --> 04:04:06,240
- They don't think they're destroying them.

4486
04:04:06,240 --> 04:04:07,400
They're destroying them.

4487
04:04:07,400 --> 04:04:08,320
They're poisoning our lives.

4488
04:04:08,320 --> 04:04:10,400
- So this is obviously one of Troy's supporters.

4489
04:04:10,400 --> 04:04:11,240
- Oh, shut up.

4490
04:04:11,240 --> 04:04:13,160
I didn't, I didn't, I don't even know what to do.

4491
04:04:13,160 --> 04:04:15,840
- He said, he said shut up.

4492
04:04:17,680 --> 04:04:18,520
- That heavens.

4493
04:04:18,520 --> 04:04:20,000
- Oh my fucking God.

4494
04:04:20,000 --> 04:04:21,760
Well, get this guy out of here.

4495
04:04:23,080 --> 04:04:24,240
- Shut up?

4496
04:04:24,240 --> 04:04:25,080
What?

4497
04:04:25,080 --> 04:04:26,640
And just one moment Jackson is probably-

4498
04:04:26,640 --> 04:04:29,560
- Like, these guys are the ones

4499
04:04:29,560 --> 04:04:31,400
that support Donald Trump

4500
04:04:31,400 --> 04:04:35,080
and they're really hand ringing over that.

4501
04:04:35,080 --> 04:04:36,520
Shut up.

4502
04:04:36,520 --> 04:04:38,440
This is what I'm not gonna be able to handle.

4503
04:04:38,440 --> 04:04:40,360
This is why I'm not, I'm gonna be back in Starcraft.

4504
04:04:40,360 --> 04:04:41,440
The Starcraft 3 is gonna be out.

4505
04:04:41,440 --> 04:04:43,240
I will not be able to survive.

4506
04:04:43,240 --> 04:04:44,280
I'll get banned from everything.

4507
04:04:44,280 --> 04:04:46,840
I will not be able to survive the political environment

4508
04:04:46,840 --> 04:04:49,600
of whatever the Republicans try to create

4509
04:04:49,600 --> 04:04:51,120
after Trump has gone.

4510
04:04:51,120 --> 04:04:53,600
Where we're gonna go back to civility politics.

4511
04:04:53,600 --> 04:04:55,520
We're gonna go back to, I can already see it too.

4512
04:04:55,520 --> 04:04:58,720
It's gonna be things like, guys, what about the debt?

4513
04:04:58,720 --> 04:05:00,080
Guys, look at all these reckless-

4514
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:04,000
spending of the Democrats. Guys, I don't think the Democrats are being very

4515
04:05:04,000 --> 04:05:08,360
presidential. Where's the bipartisanship? You're like, I'm not gonna be able to handle

4516
04:05:08,360 --> 04:05:12,000
just the hypocrisy. I'm not going to be able to handle it.

4517
04:05:12,000 --> 04:05:20,000
Obama tan suit. Yeah, it's like these guys are monster. They're demons.

4518
04:05:20,000 --> 04:05:24,000
When the story of the debate was unusual, now take a look at this part.

4519
04:05:24,000 --> 04:05:27,160
And for me, I don't know Donald Trump or the billionaires or anything. I owe the

4520
04:05:27,160 --> 04:05:29,720
people of Maine everything. And as far as the billionaires that I might have on my

4521
04:05:29,720 --> 04:05:35,100
campaign, that is accurate. But I haven't, I haven't made any deals like Senator

4522
04:05:35,100 --> 04:05:37,880
Collins has with those billionaires. I do believe that we're having real issues

4523
04:05:37,880 --> 04:05:41,200
with climate and our best opportunity is to try and get off fossil fuels. I know

4524
04:05:41,200 --> 04:05:44,440
other states, other countries, we can't dictate to that, but we can definitely do

4525
04:05:44,440 --> 04:05:46,920
what we can in this state. I do think climate change is happening. And the best

4526
04:05:46,920 --> 04:05:49,760
way that we can do that or do anything to affect it is get off of fossil fuels,

4527
04:05:49,760 --> 04:05:53,900
not build a Keystone pipeline, not drill in New Mexico or Mexico or Maine.

4528
04:05:53,900 --> 04:05:57,560
Wow, the debate before that, he didn't know the difference between Medicare and

4529
04:05:57,560 --> 04:06:00,360
Medicaid. This is a guy who's been all over, you know, the place on important

4530
04:06:00,360 --> 04:06:03,080
issues, now aligning himself with the democratic socialists and communists like

4531
04:06:03,080 --> 04:06:06,320
Graham Plattner. They were supporting him, Bernie supporting him, but in the past he

4532
04:06:06,320 --> 04:06:09,280
voted against abortion rights and marriage equality for gay people. I was

4533
04:06:09,280 --> 04:06:12,440
like 10, 11 years ago. The guy who had kids with his cousin didn't want gay

4534
04:06:12,440 --> 04:06:15,320
people to get married back in the day. Not a good look in a state that is as

4535
04:06:15,320 --> 04:06:18,560
independent and rugged as many rugged individuals like the state of Maine. And

4536
04:06:18,560 --> 04:06:20,920
get this during this other debate, as I was saying, Jackson didn't know the

4537
04:06:20,920 --> 04:06:24,080
difference between Medicare and Medicaid. You can't make this up, but it's true.

4538
04:06:24,080 --> 04:06:27,240
Pickle up. We're never going to have a abortion center in rural Maine because of our

4539
04:06:27,240 --> 04:06:29,000
population now. I mean, we should have been able to keep them at the beginning

4540
04:06:29,000 --> 04:06:30,680
list. We should have been able to have a senator that actually fought to get

4541
04:06:30,680 --> 04:06:33,080
funding for those places that wasn't taken out so that billionaires could get

4542
04:06:33,080 --> 04:06:35,240
another income tax cash. And Senator Consul could be the final word before you

4543
04:06:35,240 --> 04:06:39,800
move on. So it's hard to know where to begin. First of all, once again, Troy is

4544
04:06:39,800 --> 04:06:45,280
confusing the Medicaid program with the Medicare program. There are very few

4545
04:06:45,280 --> 04:06:51,760
maternity charges under Medicare. It is a largely a program that serves older

4546
04:06:51,760 --> 04:06:56,240
adults as well as disabled individuals serving as a US Senator in an important

4547
04:06:56,240 --> 04:06:59,760
job. You are trusted with our nation's secrets. You're responsible for, you

4548
04:06:59,760 --> 04:07:02,680
know, billions of dollars in federal funds and you fight for your home state.

4549
04:07:02,680 --> 04:07:05,480
Now, you know, you are the link between important federal services, social

4550
04:07:05,480 --> 04:07:09,240
security, Medicare, if you know what it is, and the people of your state, if you

4551
04:07:09,240 --> 04:07:13,240
are in Maine, do you really want this guy telling women to shut up representing

4552
04:07:13,240 --> 04:07:20,480
you? Oh my god. This is the grab them by the Pussy supporters. Do you really want

4553
04:07:20,480 --> 04:07:25,040
the guys to take women to shut up? Oh my god, Donald Trump tells reporters to

4554
04:07:25,040 --> 04:07:30,960
shut up. Wait, didn't he just have a thing today? Hold on.

4555
04:07:39,920 --> 04:07:44,640
Hannity would sell his soul to extend this man's life by one day. And he was

4556
04:07:44,640 --> 04:07:46,920
criticizing Troy Jackson for telling a woman to shut up.

4557
04:07:48,920 --> 04:07:54,200
You own a lot of golf. Wait, wait, why it's quiet. It's wrong with you.

4558
04:07:54,200 --> 04:08:01,520
You're sick. Jesus Christ. I actually think there's something wrong with

4559
04:08:01,520 --> 04:08:06,680
you. Go ahead. You ask president, by the way, US president, by the way, US

4560
04:08:06,680 --> 04:08:07,800
president, by the way.

4561
04:08:10,960 --> 04:08:11,680
Decorum.

4562
04:08:14,680 --> 04:08:15,760
Decorum.

4563
04:08:18,920 --> 04:08:36,480
Oh, why. Ilhan Omar, wait, before this, hold on.

4564
04:08:40,040 --> 04:08:44,800
I'm to disagree. My good friend. Briana, Joy, Greg was talking to Norm

4565
04:08:44,800 --> 04:08:49,200
Finkelstein, agree with us. He listed like the names of seven or eight

4566
04:08:49,200 --> 04:08:55,920
countries who are in our camp on this. Why do I mention all this? And here we

4567
04:08:55,920 --> 04:08:59,520
can disagree. We won't have time to disagree very long, but we'll have time

4568
04:08:59,520 --> 04:09:10,000
to disagree. The Green Party resolution rejects all of international law.

4569
04:09:11,200 --> 04:09:19,280
It says all of the territory is that's not true occupied, meaning

4570
04:09:19,280 --> 04:09:26,360
including Israel. Oh, it says we want one state in the whole of the

4571
04:09:26,360 --> 04:09:32,680
territory. That's not international law. You may not like international law.

4572
04:09:33,320 --> 04:09:38,360
But I believe there are remember what I said about Finkelstein. He's a

4573
04:09:38,360 --> 04:09:40,880
funny dude. You're wrong on a lot of shit. And he's kind of like retarded,

4574
04:09:40,880 --> 04:09:44,600
but he does have his own opinions. Now, unless he's changed it recently,

4575
04:09:45,360 --> 04:09:49,840
Finkelstein is also heavily against the BDS movement. He's not in favor of

4576
04:09:49,840 --> 04:09:54,240
the boycott divest sanctions. Well, at least 15 years ago, he was heavily

4577
04:09:54,240 --> 04:09:58,120
against him. Maybe he's changed his position on that. But yeah, he might

4578
04:09:58,120 --> 04:10:00,040
be a Zionist. I think he I don't think he's in favor of

4579
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:01,880
of this, the weird one state thing that everybody pushes.

4580
04:10:01,880 --> 04:10:03,140
I could be right, but I don't think he is,

4581
04:10:03,140 --> 04:10:04,400
but I guess we're about to find out now.

4582
04:10:04,400 --> 04:10:06,200
Brianna's about to find out, uh-oh.

4583
04:10:06,200 --> 04:10:11,200
- If enough has been one, enough realistically possible,

4584
04:10:14,840 --> 04:10:18,800
has been one, that we should run with

4585
04:10:19,800 --> 04:10:22,720
what Millaban said, and then insist to him,

4586
04:10:22,720 --> 04:10:25,800
Mr. Millaban, you say he support the law?

4587
04:10:25,800 --> 04:10:28,820
Fine, we say we support the law,

4588
04:10:28,820 --> 04:10:31,480
and now you have to enforce the law.

4589
04:10:31,480 --> 04:10:34,380
That's the job, just like with apartheid.

4590
04:10:34,380 --> 04:10:37,120
Now you have to enforce the law.

4591
04:10:38,320 --> 04:10:41,160
I believe that's the right strategy,

4592
04:10:41,160 --> 04:10:43,840
and I consider these kinds of, it's what I would call,

4593
04:10:43,840 --> 04:10:45,040
and we could disagree, obviously.

4594
04:10:45,040 --> 04:10:47,640
There's sorts of things that the Green Party is doing now.

4595
04:10:47,640 --> 04:10:49,800
It's a kind of rhetorical grandstanding.

4596
04:10:49,800 --> 04:10:52,200
It has no possibility whatsoever in the real world.

4597
04:10:52,200 --> 04:10:53,480
- Was it rhetorical grandstanding

4598
04:10:53,480 --> 04:10:55,000
when you called down in Jewish supremacy?

4599
04:10:55,000 --> 04:10:56,360
- No, because I was borrowing the phrases

4600
04:10:56,360 --> 04:10:57,200
I said at the time.

4601
04:10:57,200 --> 04:11:01,040
- Do you agree with the Green Party stance

4602
04:11:01,040 --> 04:11:02,320
that Zionism is racism?

4603
04:11:02,320 --> 04:11:05,720
- Well, Brianna, we're gonna have a serious discussion now.

4604
04:11:05,720 --> 04:11:07,800
The trend is a lawyer, and I'm gonna speak to you,

4605
04:11:07,800 --> 04:11:11,080
and hopefully we can be precise.

4606
04:11:11,080 --> 04:11:15,960
What the Green Party did was it created a definition,

4607
04:11:15,960 --> 04:11:17,760
which was racist, the way they described Zionism,

4608
04:11:17,760 --> 04:11:19,160
they created a definition which was racist,

4609
04:11:19,160 --> 04:11:20,600
and then they condemned it as racism.

4610
04:11:20,600 --> 04:11:23,160
So if you yourself make the definition,

4611
04:11:23,160 --> 04:11:24,160
- Well, how would you define Zionism

4612
04:11:24,160 --> 04:11:25,880
as something other than an international project?

4613
04:11:25,880 --> 04:11:27,320
- Fine, good question.

4614
04:11:27,320 --> 04:11:28,520
For me, they allow me a credential.

4615
04:11:28,520 --> 04:11:30,080
I wrote my doctorate with dissertation on Zionism.

4616
04:11:30,080 --> 04:11:30,920
I'm a theory of Zionism.

4617
04:11:30,920 --> 04:11:32,520
It was called from the Jewish question to the Jewish state,

4618
04:11:32,520 --> 04:11:33,720
and they're saying a theory of Zionism.

4619
04:11:33,720 --> 04:11:35,440
So I know it pretty well, okay?

4620
04:11:35,440 --> 04:11:37,000
I know the subject, even though it's half century ago,

4621
04:11:37,000 --> 04:11:38,280
I still know the subject pretty well.

4622
04:11:38,280 --> 04:11:39,200
How would I define Zionism?

4623
04:11:39,200 --> 04:11:40,680
I would say Zionism is the father.

4624
04:11:40,680 --> 04:11:42,240
Zionism came to the conclusion, the Zionist,

4625
04:11:42,240 --> 04:11:43,880
but distinguished Zionism, all the other branches,

4626
04:11:43,880 --> 04:11:46,360
the Bund, Jewish communists, Jewish socialists,

4627
04:11:46,360 --> 04:11:48,460
what the school, the distinguished Zionism was the father.

4628
04:11:48,460 --> 04:11:49,920
They said there's no future for Jews

4629
04:11:49,920 --> 04:11:51,320
in what was called the diaspora,

4630
04:11:51,320 --> 04:11:53,040
or Galut, Galutist in terms of exile.

4631
04:11:53,040 --> 04:11:54,480
There was no future for Jews there.

4632
04:11:54,480 --> 04:11:55,720
One of two things was gonna happen.

4633
04:11:56,400 --> 04:11:57,420
They would be persecuted,

4634
04:11:57,420 --> 04:11:58,440
continue to be persecuted,

4635
04:11:58,440 --> 04:12:00,040
namely antisemitism would persist

4636
04:12:00,040 --> 04:12:02,960
in the non-Jewish, in the diaspora,

4637
04:12:02,960 --> 04:12:06,160
or antisemitism would disappear,

4638
04:12:06,160 --> 04:12:08,360
and then Jews would disappear, which just assimilate.

4639
04:12:08,360 --> 04:12:10,920
So either the two possible outcomes for Jews

4640
04:12:10,920 --> 04:12:12,560
in that non-Jewish world was either

4641
04:12:12,560 --> 04:12:14,880
continued persecution or assimilation.

4642
04:12:14,880 --> 04:12:17,080
So their view was we had to create a Jewish state,

4643
04:12:17,080 --> 04:12:18,360
a state which was predominantly Jewish,

4644
04:12:18,360 --> 04:12:21,480
in order to prevent or overcome persecution

4645
04:12:21,480 --> 04:12:22,760
and assimilation.

4646
04:12:22,760 --> 04:12:24,760
No, the truth of the matter is, in my opinion,

4647
04:12:24,760 --> 04:12:27,760
their analysis is probably fundamentally correct.

4648
04:12:27,760 --> 04:12:29,360
The reason we don't have huge levels

4649
04:12:29,360 --> 04:12:30,760
of antisemitism in Europe.

4650
04:12:30,760 --> 04:12:32,120
- What?

4651
04:12:32,120 --> 04:12:33,760
- He's actually correct, no.

4652
04:12:33,760 --> 04:12:36,560
- Well, I mean, he knows some stuff, but--

4653
04:12:36,560 --> 04:12:38,000
- Okay, oh.

4654
04:12:38,000 --> 04:12:38,840
- No.

4655
04:12:38,840 --> 04:12:40,400
- He's also gonna disagree with him on some stuff.

4656
04:12:40,400 --> 04:12:42,800
- It's because Hitler saw the Jewish question.

4657
04:12:42,800 --> 04:12:44,440
- What do you mean, what do you mean by that?

4658
04:12:44,440 --> 04:12:47,720
- No, no, six million Jews were exterminated.

4659
04:12:47,720 --> 04:12:48,960
That solved the Jewish question.

4660
04:12:48,960 --> 04:12:50,600
If they had still stayed in Europe,

4661
04:12:50,600 --> 04:12:52,760
had they not been the Nazi extermination,

4662
04:12:52,760 --> 04:12:54,600
I suspect that the levels of antisemitism

4663
04:12:54,600 --> 04:12:56,680
would still be quite high in Europe.

4664
04:12:56,680 --> 04:12:58,160
So assuming--

4665
04:12:58,160 --> 04:13:00,280
- Okay, but just to be oriented, just to be--

4666
04:13:00,280 --> 04:13:01,280
- And then you go.

4667
04:13:01,280 --> 04:13:03,400
And then the second aspect is the assimilation.

4668
04:13:03,400 --> 04:13:04,640
You see that in the United States,

4669
04:13:04,640 --> 04:13:05,880
Jews are disappearing in numbers.

4670
04:13:05,880 --> 04:13:07,600
The assimilation is happening at a very high rate.

4671
04:13:07,600 --> 04:13:09,600
60% of Jews are intermarrying,

4672
04:13:09,600 --> 04:13:11,480
and intermarriages essentially the death knell

4673
04:13:11,480 --> 04:13:12,400
of an ethnical group.

4674
04:13:12,400 --> 04:13:14,120
Now you may say, love should try and fall

4675
04:13:14,120 --> 04:13:16,000
at the city, and I can get that.

4676
04:13:16,000 --> 04:13:18,120
But I'm just saying, as an analysis,

4677
04:13:18,120 --> 04:13:19,640
designers were fundamentally correct,

4678
04:13:19,640 --> 04:13:21,640
that in a non-Jewish state,

4679
04:13:21,640 --> 04:13:24,680
the prospect was either persecution or assimilation.

4680
04:13:24,680 --> 04:13:26,120
So their solution, quote unquote,

4681
04:13:26,120 --> 04:13:27,840
was to create a Jewish state.

4682
04:13:27,840 --> 04:13:30,720
Now, that in itself, in my view, that in itself

4683
04:13:30,720 --> 04:13:32,480
is not racist.

4684
04:13:32,480 --> 04:13:35,440
Well, I want to live in an all Jewish state, not really.

4685
04:13:35,440 --> 04:13:37,480
But I'd say Singapore is very careful

4686
04:13:37,480 --> 04:13:38,920
about not admitting immigrants,

4687
04:13:38,920 --> 04:13:42,680
'cause it wants to preserve its ethnic identity.

4688
04:13:42,680 --> 04:13:44,080
I'm not sure I would call that racist.

4689
04:13:44,080 --> 04:13:47,560
I would say the term that's used,

4690
04:13:47,560 --> 04:13:50,480
now it's a form of ethnic nationalism, I guess.

4691
04:13:50,480 --> 04:13:51,320
- What's the difference?

4692
04:13:51,320 --> 04:13:52,680
Do you have ethnic nationalism or Jewish supremacy

4693
04:13:52,680 --> 04:13:54,480
without it being racist?

4694
04:13:54,480 --> 04:13:57,960
- It's just, she's using, remember, Briana is at her heart.

4695
04:13:57,960 --> 04:13:59,960
Okay, a white girl, don't ever forget this.

4696
04:14:01,320 --> 04:14:03,360
The idea that,

4697
04:14:05,800 --> 04:14:07,120
I don't tell you a serious response.

4698
04:14:07,120 --> 04:14:09,360
In the United States, anything relating to ethnicity,

4699
04:14:09,360 --> 04:14:10,520
we view it as always being bad,

4700
04:14:10,520 --> 04:14:12,720
because we don't really deal with ethnicity much

4701
04:14:12,720 --> 04:14:14,080
in the United States beyond like talking about

4702
04:14:14,080 --> 04:14:17,080
social, socio-cultural issues.

4703
04:14:18,320 --> 04:14:20,760
Ethnicities are things to be regarded

4704
04:14:20,760 --> 04:14:23,280
and maneuvered around in ways that guarantee equality

4705
04:14:23,280 --> 04:14:28,280
for all people, because there is no coherent U.S. ethnic identity

4706
04:14:28,920 --> 04:14:32,040
that we feel is under threat,

4707
04:14:32,040 --> 04:14:33,480
unless you're an aunt, I guess.

4708
04:14:34,600 --> 04:14:38,120
That means that anytime somebody talks about preserving

4709
04:14:38,120 --> 04:14:39,520
any kind of ethnic identity,

4710
04:14:39,520 --> 04:14:40,880
we almost always identify those people

4711
04:14:40,880 --> 04:14:42,720
as being an ethnic supremacist in some way.

4712
04:14:42,720 --> 04:14:45,080
But the rest of the world does not operate that way.

4713
04:14:45,080 --> 04:14:48,560
So Briana is gonna go ahead and use her very, very, very

4714
04:14:48,560 --> 04:14:51,840
stupid college white girl definition of like,

4715
04:14:51,840 --> 04:14:54,760
anytime you're concerned about an ethnic group,

4716
04:14:54,760 --> 04:14:57,240
you're always a racist ethnic supremacist.

4717
04:14:57,240 --> 04:15:00,040
This is a very, very, very American, Western, uneducated.

4718
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:04,680
not worldly, untraveled, a historic misunderstanding

4719
04:15:04,680 --> 04:15:07,120
and misapplication of how ethnic protections work around the world.

4720
04:15:07,120 --> 04:15:10,120
You wouldn't say the Kurds are at no supremacist for a Kurdistan

4721
04:15:10,120 --> 04:15:11,960
or for trying to create a Kurdistan or for any group of people

4722
04:15:11,960 --> 04:15:13,980
that are trying to create a state or the Armenians

4723
04:15:13,980 --> 04:15:15,860
or anybody else, it's just stupid.

4724
04:15:15,860 --> 04:15:19,800
What do you think is different for white people in America?

4725
04:15:19,800 --> 04:15:25,240
The, I asked me tomorrow because the actual, I can't think of a way

4726
04:15:25,240 --> 04:15:28,640
for I was trying to piss you off of your, if you disagree on that.

4727
04:15:28,640 --> 04:15:29,400
>> It's just high wealth.

4728
04:15:29,400 --> 04:15:30,280
>> That's it.

4729
04:15:30,280 --> 04:15:36,360
>> Because the actual answer is because white is a fictitious identity

4730
04:15:36,360 --> 04:15:38,600
that was created in the United States to exclude other people.

4731
04:15:38,600 --> 04:15:41,960
It's not speaking to any sort of unified cultural experience

4732
04:15:41,960 --> 04:15:44,480
that white people have or ethnic experience that white people have

4733
04:15:44,480 --> 04:15:47,720
because there is no white ethnic.

4734
04:15:47,720 --> 04:15:50,360
I mean, maybe now kind of sort of, you can say the United States

4735
04:15:50,360 --> 04:15:54,120
are kind of short of, it's not really though, not really.

4736
04:15:54,120 --> 04:15:56,560
It's not really the same thing.

4737
04:15:56,560 --> 04:15:58,840
>> Wow, you're invalidating Breonna Joy Gray.

4738
04:15:58,840 --> 04:15:59,800
>> True.

4739
04:15:59,800 --> 04:16:01,080
>> Racist.

4740
04:16:01,080 --> 04:16:02,240
>> I don't know if that would trigger it.

4741
04:16:02,240 --> 04:16:03,400
I'm sorry for making that assumption.

4742
04:16:03,400 --> 04:16:08,320
But that's, this is, it's going to be in my books to walk with Armenians, okay?

4743
04:16:08,320 --> 04:16:14,280
>> Hey, I can imagine a situation where nobody would find it objectionable

4744
04:16:14,280 --> 04:16:21,640
if a state limited its immigration in order to preserve its demographic balance.

4745
04:16:21,640 --> 04:16:25,160
>> And nobody talks about this, but every country does this.

4746
04:16:25,160 --> 04:16:27,280
Now, in the United States, we don't worry about it as much

4747
04:16:27,280 --> 04:16:28,080
because we're a huge country.

4748
04:16:28,080 --> 04:16:31,800
But like in the United States, in our legal immigration system,

4749
04:16:31,800 --> 04:16:36,880
no more than eight, I think it's 8% of a country can make up

4750
04:16:36,880 --> 04:16:38,480
the entirety of an immigrated group.

4751
04:16:38,480 --> 04:16:41,080
You can't have like, oh, this year 100% of legal immigrants came from one country.

4752
04:16:41,080 --> 04:16:43,480
That's just not, we already have these limiting things in the US.

4753
04:16:43,480 --> 04:16:45,520
It's not a thing.

4754
04:16:45,520 --> 04:16:47,840
>> Let's take a case, dude, let's take the United States.

4755
04:16:47,840 --> 04:16:49,000
>> Yeah, we call that racist here.

4756
04:16:49,000 --> 04:16:51,080
We literally, we fought- >> Okay, that's not racist.

4757
04:16:51,080 --> 04:16:52,440
>> That's not racist.

4758
04:16:52,440 --> 04:16:54,280
>> Don't kill me, kill me, kill me, kill me.

4759
04:16:54,280 --> 04:16:54,880
It's okay.

4760
04:16:54,880 --> 04:16:57,920
>> Supreme Court overturned racially exclusionary immigration laws

4761
04:16:57,920 --> 04:16:59,240
on the grounds that they were racist.

4762
04:16:59,240 --> 04:17:00,720
>> Okay, that's okay.

4763
04:17:00,720 --> 04:17:02,200
I won't look at that example right now.

4764
04:17:02,200 --> 04:17:04,280
Let me just ask you a hypothetical, okay?

4765
04:17:04,280 --> 04:17:08,640
Let's say, is China escalates its repression to death, okay?

4766
04:17:08,640 --> 04:17:11,680
And 300, I'm just giving you a hypothetical, okay?

4767
04:17:11,680 --> 04:17:13,520
300 million to death.

4768
04:17:13,520 --> 04:17:16,960
Decide they're going to seek refuge in the United States.

4769
04:17:16,960 --> 04:17:18,040
They're being persecuted.

4770
04:17:18,040 --> 04:17:20,960
They have- >> How many Thai battens are there?

4771
04:17:20,960 --> 04:17:23,560
>> At least two.

4772
04:17:23,560 --> 04:17:28,560
>> 3.65 million people is the total population of that.

4773
04:17:28,560 --> 04:17:30,640
Okay, sorry, whatever, whatever.

4774
04:17:30,640 --> 04:17:32,440
>> I promise you, to the extent that I would have any objection

4775
04:17:32,440 --> 04:17:33,760
to that, it's not because they're Tibetan.

4776
04:17:33,760 --> 04:17:35,240
It's because America has a capacity to bear doubling

4777
04:17:35,240 --> 04:17:36,600
of population, and it may or may not.

4778
04:17:36,600 --> 04:17:37,880
And that's a question that bursts out.

4779
04:17:37,880 --> 04:17:39,600
But my objection is not to the national character

4780
04:17:39,600 --> 04:17:41,840
of America becoming too Tibetan.

4781
04:17:41,840 --> 04:17:47,040
>> You recognize, Brianna, you recognize that the whole cultural

4782
04:17:47,040 --> 04:17:50,640
face of the United States would dramatically change

4783
04:17:50,640 --> 04:17:53,080
if half the population became Tibetan.

4784
04:17:53,080 --> 04:17:54,760
>> Yeah, what does that mean, say?

4785
04:17:54,760 --> 04:17:56,360
>> Right, but that's not the question, does changing things,

4786
04:17:56,360 --> 04:17:57,360
change things.

4787
04:17:57,360 --> 04:17:58,360
The question is whether or not, is racist to have an objection

4788
04:17:58,360 --> 04:18:00,760
to that change because you think that one race should have

4789
04:18:00,760 --> 04:18:03,840
dominance politically, legally, because they believe they are

4790
04:18:03,840 --> 04:18:04,840
chosen and superior.

4791
04:18:04,840 --> 04:18:06,960
>> Okay, but that's- >> Politically and legally, oh, God,

4792
04:18:06,960 --> 04:18:08,480
as Finkel's thinking to say it, does he have the answer?

4793
04:18:08,480 --> 04:18:10,280
Everybody makes this mistake, okay?

4794
04:18:10,280 --> 04:18:12,920
It would be bad for the political or legal domination

4795
04:18:12,920 --> 04:18:15,320
of a certain race, and I know it's hard to understand this,

4796
04:18:15,320 --> 04:18:18,360
but that is a fundamentally different thing

4797
04:18:18,360 --> 04:18:20,280
than your immigration policy.

4798
04:18:20,280 --> 04:18:22,760
There is a difference between somebody saying,

4799
04:18:22,760 --> 04:18:26,320
"I think that we should not allow 500 million Indians

4800
04:18:26,320 --> 04:18:27,240
to immigrate to our country."

4801
04:18:27,240 --> 04:18:29,200
That's different than saying, "I don't think the Indians

4802
04:18:29,200 --> 04:18:31,760
that are in our country right now should have the same rights

4803
04:18:31,760 --> 04:18:33,000
as the other racial group."

4804
04:18:33,000 --> 04:18:34,560
Those are two different statements.

4805
04:18:34,560 --> 04:18:35,560
Those are two different types of things.

4806
04:18:35,560 --> 04:18:38,240
One is probably never okay.

4807
04:18:38,240 --> 04:18:40,600
I can't conceive of a thing at the time of my head,

4808
04:18:40,600 --> 04:18:42,440
where I would say it's okay to give different rights,

4809
04:18:42,440 --> 04:18:43,480
different races of people in the country.

4810
04:18:43,480 --> 04:18:44,560
I think it's probably never okay.

4811
04:18:44,560 --> 04:18:46,800
But that's different than immigration policy.

4812
04:18:48,320 --> 04:18:50,720
>> In my opinion, that's a separate question.

4813
04:18:50,720 --> 04:18:51,720
>> But that is the question.

4814
04:18:51,720 --> 04:18:53,600
>> The question we're asking right now is what is Zionism?

4815
04:18:53,600 --> 04:18:56,280
And you're characterizing it in a way that says a country

4816
04:18:56,280 --> 04:18:58,080
has the right to protect its national identity.

4817
04:18:58,080 --> 04:18:59,200
Whereas Zionism is not just a belief

4818
04:18:59,200 --> 04:19:01,280
that there can be abstractly a state where Jewish people land

4819
04:19:01,280 --> 04:19:03,560
and have self-determination, and police

4820
04:19:03,560 --> 04:19:04,600
throw on borders or start a new country,

4821
04:19:04,600 --> 04:19:06,360
but they do it specifically in Palestine,

4822
04:19:06,360 --> 04:19:07,840
whether it's already a people existing.

4823
04:19:07,840 --> 04:19:10,440
And that the average of state requires the subjugation,

4824
04:19:10,440 --> 04:19:13,360
extermination, and deportation of the local population.

4825
04:19:13,360 --> 04:19:14,960
And that you have to have an ongoing system apartheid,

4826
04:19:14,960 --> 04:19:15,800
because in the middle of the Arab world,

4827
04:19:15,800 --> 04:19:17,520
you're naturally unable to maintain a Jewish majority,

4828
04:19:17,520 --> 04:19:20,000
absent a system of racial superiority in apartheid, right?

4829
04:19:20,000 --> 04:19:21,280
And that being the case, I'm struggling with,

4830
04:19:21,280 --> 04:19:23,200
especially I'm very surprised that's coming from you, Norm,

4831
04:19:23,200 --> 04:19:25,440
because you're somebody who brought this term

4832
04:19:25,440 --> 04:19:28,320
of Jewish supremacy to the front on this very show.

4833
04:19:28,320 --> 04:19:30,000
>> Okay, Brianna.

4834
04:19:30,000 --> 04:19:32,240
>> Yes. >> I think there's a misapprehension here.

4835
04:19:32,240 --> 04:19:34,320
The misapprehension is this.

4836
04:19:34,320 --> 04:19:37,120
I use the term Jewish supremacists.

4837
04:19:37,120 --> 04:19:39,840
Precisely because I thought the term Zionism

4838
04:19:39,840 --> 04:19:41,440
was not very illuminating.

4839
04:19:41,440 --> 04:19:44,680
I wanted to pinpoint what is the problem.

4840
04:19:44,680 --> 04:19:47,160
And I felt maybe because I was overly sensitive

4841
04:19:47,160 --> 04:19:48,720
to how much I had read on the subject,

4842
04:19:48,720 --> 04:19:52,080
I didn't feel that Zionism pinpointed the problem.

4843
04:19:52,080 --> 04:19:55,040
Jewish supremacy does pinpoint the problem.

4844
04:19:55,040 --> 04:19:56,600
And it's not just the problem in Israel.

4845
04:19:56,600 --> 04:19:58,680
I do not believe that most of the American Jews

4846
04:19:58,680 --> 04:20:00,040
who support Israel, they also

4847
04:20:00,000 --> 04:20:04,400
supported because they're Zionists. I don't believe that. There was a very famous social

4848
04:20:04,400 --> 04:20:08,400
critic named Irving Howe, previous generation, my generation, and before my generation. And

4849
04:20:08,400 --> 04:20:12,720
Irving Howe once said, he wrote in his memoir, his memoir is entitled A Margin of Hope. And

4850
04:20:12,720 --> 04:20:17,580
in his memoir, he said, "Look, if you have enough money in your pocket to buy a one-way

4851
04:20:17,580 --> 04:20:22,280
ticket to Israel and you don't purchase that one-way ticket, you're not a Zionist. Because

4852
04:20:22,280 --> 04:20:25,520
the essence of Zionism is you have no future outside of Jewish state. That's the essence

4853
04:20:25,520 --> 04:20:29,880
of Zionism. So if you don't buy that one-way ticket, you're not a Zionist. If Sheryl

4854
04:20:29,880 --> 04:20:34,080
Sander doesn't buy that one-way ticket, if Bill Ackman doesn't buy that one-way ticket,

4855
04:20:34,080 --> 04:20:36,880
if Robert Kraft doesn't buy that one-way ticket, and I view they're not Zionists,

4856
04:20:36,880 --> 04:20:40,320
if Jewish supremacists, Jews can do no wrong, the state of Israel is a quote unquote state

4857
04:20:40,320 --> 04:20:42,640
of the Jewish people. We will stand by the state of the Jewish people because they're

4858
04:20:42,640 --> 04:20:47,120
Jews and we'll do anything it takes in everybody else. Because I know the people, I grew up

4859
04:20:47,120 --> 04:20:51,720
with them. Everybody else, not just Arabs, not just Muslims. Everybody who's non-Jewish

4860
04:20:51,720 --> 04:20:56,040
is some degree of royum, garbage. You know, there are different gradations, obviously.

4861
04:20:56,040 --> 04:21:00,280
But there are some degree of royum means garbage. I have no doubt about it. I grew up with them.

4862
04:21:00,280 --> 04:21:04,720
I know them like the back of my hat. And they haven't changed. People's fundamental sentiments.

4863
04:21:04,720 --> 04:21:08,360
They don't change generation by generation. It takes quite a lot of time to change those

4864
04:21:08,360 --> 04:21:13,080
core sentiments. They're Jewish supremacists. That's who they are. I think that Zionist

4865
04:21:13,080 --> 04:21:16,360
and just that was the reason I used the term. If you go back and listen to our conversation,

4866
04:21:16,360 --> 04:21:20,640
the question now is why you don't think if you think that Jewish supremacy underlies

4867
04:21:20,640 --> 04:21:23,240
the project of wanting to maintain the state of Israel, even among people who have no plans

4868
04:21:23,240 --> 04:21:28,240
to live there. And you agree and understand that to maintain Israel as a state of Jewish

4869
04:21:28,240 --> 04:21:31,560
character, where it is located in the world, because the world isn't empty, when people

4870
04:21:31,560 --> 04:21:35,280
sit on their colonial adventures, that it requires apartheid and a system of racial

4871
04:21:35,280 --> 04:21:43,240
hierarchy and demographic wrangling and exclusion and, you know, ethnic cleansing. Then what

4872
04:21:43,240 --> 04:21:47,200
definition of Zionism exists? That's not as my premise is.

4873
04:21:47,200 --> 04:21:50,840
I guess my problem is there are two things. First of all, I don't think many people who

4874
04:21:50,840 --> 04:21:54,240
speak about Zionism, not very much about it, or any two people agree.

4875
04:21:54,240 --> 04:21:58,640
Well, that's the point. That's the power of this resolution that will confront people

4876
04:21:58,640 --> 04:22:00,960
the same way that your term Jewish supremacy did, with what it is they're actually advocating

4877
04:22:00,960 --> 04:22:03,640
for, and just about this idea that it's like, everyone gets to have a homeland. Why don't

4878
04:22:03,640 --> 04:22:04,640
we get to have a homeland?

4879
04:22:04,640 --> 04:22:08,520
Rihanna, Rihanna, in politics, smoking is in particular.

4880
04:22:08,520 --> 04:22:10,880
I'm glad you said that because this whole time I've been thinking about how you once

4881
04:22:10,880 --> 04:22:13,120
on the free podcast, we're very critical of people who were saying from the river to

4882
04:22:13,120 --> 04:22:16,160
sea and advocated for a more moderate position. Now that phrase has been completely normalized

4883
04:22:16,160 --> 04:22:18,680
in the people with the maximalist position one. And it seems to me in some ways, no

4884
04:22:18,680 --> 04:22:20,880
moment. It seems to me, in some ways, this whole conversation we've been criticizing,

4885
04:22:20,880 --> 04:22:24,040
the choices are on and others to moderate. When in fact, when they were most successful

4886
04:22:24,040 --> 04:22:26,480
was when they demonstrated political courage and were able to change the conversation,

4887
04:22:26,480 --> 04:22:28,640
because they didn't use Mili Mao's terms about what it was they were committed to and what

4888
04:22:28,640 --> 04:22:29,640
we were talking about.

4889
04:22:29,640 --> 04:22:32,800
Rihanna, Rihanna, it's not a question of Mili Mao's terms.

4890
04:22:32,800 --> 04:22:39,680
It's a question about precision of language, so that you transmit a un-equivocating message.

4891
04:22:39,680 --> 04:22:43,800
So I said, let's use the term Jewish supremacy, even though in many ways it's more incendiary,

4892
04:22:43,800 --> 04:22:47,080
than Zionism, because Zionism is such a nebulous term, unless you've studied the theory

4893
04:22:47,080 --> 04:22:51,240
of Zionism. Let's use the term that everybody understands. We understand white supremacy.

4894
04:22:51,240 --> 04:22:53,680
That's clear. The country's a clear image. We understand.

4895
04:22:53,680 --> 04:22:56,480
First of all, that's not true. There are people who are heads of the last five years hand-hanging

4896
04:22:56,480 --> 04:22:58,800
about white supremacy. Who will say white supremacy, you're telling me that white people

4897
04:22:58,800 --> 04:23:01,800
are just bad? You're telling me white people are worse than everybody else? If I type a

4898
04:23:01,800 --> 04:23:04,280
white supremacy into Twitter right now, I'm going to be a bunch of...

4899
04:23:04,280 --> 04:23:05,280
What?

4900
04:23:05,280 --> 04:23:09,720
Do you think that this is how two Nazi scientists back in the day would argue about the phenotype

4901
04:23:09,720 --> 04:23:13,480
of Jews? There's some shit. I don't fucking know, dude.

4902
04:23:13,480 --> 04:23:20,600
Yeah, I don't know. The problem is, Breanna is very ideologically driven and doesn't know

4903
04:23:20,600 --> 04:23:26,000
very much. None of these lefties do. Finkelstein is just a very unique character.

4904
04:23:26,000 --> 04:23:34,040
He's also egotistical and arrogant, so yeah, he wants his definition to drive home probably.

4905
04:23:34,040 --> 04:23:37,720
Sure. But then remember for the theory of how these interviews and everything work, generally

4906
04:23:37,720 --> 04:23:40,840
these people are always just trying to circle-drick each other, more or less, unless they're bringing

4907
04:23:40,840 --> 04:23:44,680
on a political opponent to character assassinate. So she probably is generally just expecting

4908
04:23:44,680 --> 04:23:48,680
him to come on a cosign of all of her opinions. And for whatever you'll say about him, Finkelstein

4909
04:23:48,680 --> 04:23:53,080
has his own brain. And he's obviously here not planning on circle-dricking her opinions

4910
04:23:53,080 --> 04:23:54,080
without anything.

4911
04:23:54,080 --> 04:23:59,200
It's arguing that white supremacy is wrong, instead of using it to walk.

4912
04:23:59,200 --> 04:24:05,240
Okay, I believe that concrete but not necessarily without conflict. Images of male supremacy,

4913
04:24:05,240 --> 04:24:08,080
white supremacy, they're pretty straightforward though I agree with you when you start parsing

4914
04:24:08,080 --> 04:24:12,840
it, problems arise. So I thought Jewish supremacy would conjure up the same images, white supremacy,

4915
04:24:12,840 --> 04:24:18,160
or male supremacy, and you're transmitting a fairly concrete message. Not acknowledging

4916
04:24:18,160 --> 04:24:20,680
everything that you just said. I never quarre with facts, acknowledging everything that you

4917
04:24:20,680 --> 04:24:24,760
just said. Okay. Now, look, whether it's slogan from the river to the sea. Okay, I don't want

4918
04:24:24,760 --> 04:24:26,960
to parse that to death. We've done it a hundred times.

4919
04:24:26,960 --> 04:24:29,120
Do you have knowledge that it seems to have won the day?

4920
04:24:29,120 --> 04:24:33,680
Oh, not at all. Allow me. Allow me. In the area of South Africa, they had one very apartheid.

4921
04:24:33,680 --> 04:24:38,640
They had a one very clear slogan. One person, one vote. That was a slogan. One person, one

4922
04:24:38,640 --> 04:24:42,560
vote. It was very clear from the slogan. We're not trying to get rid of the white people.

4923
04:24:42,560 --> 04:24:45,600
That was the ANC slogan. The South African Congress, no, it said white people have to

4924
04:24:45,600 --> 04:24:49,160
go back to Europe. The ANC, the African National Congress, which eventually was the principal

4925
04:24:49,160 --> 04:24:53,280
party that ended the apartheid. It said, no, we don't accept the principle of the South

4926
04:24:53,280 --> 04:24:58,320
African, the kind of African Congress, the PIC. We don't accept what white people have

4927
04:24:58,320 --> 04:25:28,320
to go back. Our slogan is going to be "one

4928
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:03,900
person, one vote. I would also say, as a footnote, which is very relevant to the Israel-Palestine

4929
04:25:03,900 --> 04:25:09,540
conflict, the time won't allow me to go into it. They had deeply internalized that concept.

4930
04:25:09,540 --> 04:25:13,300
So when the second person in command in the ANC after Nelson Mandela was a guy, a fellow

4931
04:25:13,300 --> 04:25:16,920
named Walter Sisulu, and Walter Sisulu was asked when apartheid was coming to an end,

4932
04:25:16,920 --> 04:25:20,380
or maybe even after apartheid was over, he was asked the question, "Do you hope to live

4933
04:25:20,380 --> 04:25:25,540
to see a black president of South Africa?" And I never forgot his reply. You know, his

4934
04:25:25,540 --> 04:25:29,860
reply was, "I'm not hoping to see a black president of South Africa. I'm hoping to

4935
04:25:29,860 --> 04:25:36,640
see a democratically elected president of South Africa. One person, one vote, deeply internalized,

4936
04:25:36,640 --> 04:25:41,100
meaning everybody belongs." Because there was a competing party, which didn't accept

4937
04:25:41,100 --> 04:25:46,240
everybody belongs. They say, "Africa for the Africans, Europeans go back to Europe."

4938
04:25:46,240 --> 04:25:53,840
So from the river to the sea, it falls definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely silent.

4939
04:25:53,840 --> 04:25:59,380
And what about Israeli Jews? From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. Okay?

4940
04:25:59,380 --> 04:26:07,460
Where, in that slogan, which I say, slogans have to be very precise, one person, one vote.

4941
04:26:07,460 --> 04:26:10,420
Where do Jews fit into it from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

4942
04:26:10,420 --> 04:26:14,280
It's not about Jews. It's not about Jews. We are talking about subjugated people wanting

4943
04:26:14,280 --> 04:26:19,900
freedom from a Jewish state. Right? If I said, if I have them, no, no, no, no, no, no, I've

4944
04:26:19,900 --> 04:26:23,620
haven't been silent to respond. You know, I've been very patient, and, you know, not,

4945
04:26:23,620 --> 04:26:27,660
so this is where I had a World War II slogan that was like, "Free the Jews." And I started

4946
04:26:27,660 --> 04:26:30,360
asking, "Well, what happens to the Germans?" Any normal person would say that that's absurd

4947
04:26:30,360 --> 04:26:32,900
and ridiculous. They're the problem. And it doesn't mean that every single last German

4948
04:26:32,900 --> 04:26:37,680
in Germany. I mean, like, damn, they're the, I mean, like, I understand we can do this

4949
04:26:37,680 --> 04:26:41,140
because it's Germans and Nazis and German, Nazi bad, but like, it's so funny because

4950
04:26:41,140 --> 04:26:45,340
her language here, like, absolutely betrays what the actual problem was at the end of

4951
04:26:45,340 --> 04:26:49,300
World War II. There was a massive, now, back then, what they called it, population transfer,

4952
04:26:49,300 --> 04:26:53,740
today we would call it, ethnic cleansing. There was a massive population transfer/ethnic

4953
04:26:53,740 --> 04:26:57,620
cleansing of Germans after World War II. It was like, was there only 16 million of them?

4954
04:26:57,620 --> 04:27:00,940
They were forced out of countries that they, I don't remember if they'd been settled in

4955
04:27:00,940 --> 04:27:04,260
them during the World War II conquest, or it was before them. Nobody just wanted Germans

4956
04:27:04,260 --> 04:27:08,460
there. But like, it was a massive thing that happened. And you could say, arguably, they

4957
04:27:08,460 --> 04:27:12,220
make maybe the civilian population didn't deserve that. But obviously, everybody fucking

4958
04:27:12,220 --> 04:27:17,060
was not a fan of fucking Germans after World War II. But I mean, like, that was a thing

4959
04:27:17,060 --> 04:27:21,140
and that was an issue. And it probably maybe isn't the best thing to take out that on the

4960
04:27:21,140 --> 04:27:24,180
civilian population. But it's so funny, I was just like, but that's okay. And it's like,

4961
04:27:24,180 --> 04:27:27,060
well, this actually was a problem. This is a real problem. I don't think you know anything

4962
04:27:27,060 --> 04:27:28,640
about this, but okay.

4963
04:27:28,640 --> 04:27:33,420
See, was flipping the switch, the kill switch on concentration camp, but it certainly is

4964
04:27:33,420 --> 04:27:36,580
beside the point in an obvious attempt to derail what is central in the conversation,

4965
04:27:36,580 --> 04:27:39,860
which is that Palestinians are not free, and they are in fact not free because of Zionism.

4966
04:27:39,860 --> 04:27:43,460
Because Zionism is fundamentally an ethnosuppremist ideology that requires their subjugation. And

4967
04:27:43,460 --> 04:27:46,200
though my whole point is that I believe, my personal view is that the Green Party is

4968
04:27:46,200 --> 04:27:49,980
taking the stand is incredibly important, and that the United States should follow, because

4969
04:27:49,980 --> 04:27:53,060
absent doing this, we allow, as a clip that I don't have the time to air, which is what

4970
04:27:53,060 --> 04:27:57,480
I was leading up to, where you get these these, these Zionist voters in Michigan saying,

4971
04:27:57,480 --> 04:27:59,640
Oh, I really want to support Abdul, I was like, you, I need him to say something that

4972
04:27:59,640 --> 04:28:02,780
gives me comfort. And when provoked to articulate what it is, that gives him, we'll give him

4973
04:28:02,780 --> 04:28:05,900
comfort. It's this one says, Oh, I want him to say that, like he supports Israel.

4974
04:28:05,900 --> 04:28:07,220
I want so badly to believe him.

4975
04:28:07,220 --> 04:28:10,100
Choose between two fundamental examples of yourself or where you can be out of pick one.

4976
04:28:10,100 --> 04:28:13,340
You can't vote. You can't pick one. And which one to pick? Where who's Oxford? I guess

4977
04:28:13,340 --> 04:28:14,340
this way.

4978
04:28:14,340 --> 04:28:15,340
It's so exciting to not have this problem.

4979
04:28:15,340 --> 04:28:17,980
I have a friend of your daughter who is 30 and I'm Jewish and Israel's incredibly important

4980
04:28:17,980 --> 04:28:20,940
to me. But a vote from like Roger is a vote for my kid being oppressed, correct? And

4981
04:28:20,940 --> 04:28:24,820
it's like, so quite honestly, you know, I love some of the things he's talked about.

4982
04:28:24,820 --> 04:28:28,380
I think it's a little idealistic and a little extreme and I'm a little concerned, but I,

4983
04:28:28,380 --> 04:28:31,500
you know, my big lock is I just come down to this whole thing with Israel and I do worry

4984
04:28:31,500 --> 04:28:32,500
about.

4985
04:28:32,500 --> 04:28:38,580
So it's not about Jews. So it's not about Jews. It's about what almost every single Jewish

4986
04:28:38,580 --> 04:28:43,860
person is concerned about. Like, yeah, wait, who you're criticizing here? Or what is the

4987
04:28:43,860 --> 04:28:50,820
- Brianna Joe Grace says, like, it's not about Jews. It's about like the Jewish state, right?

4988
04:28:50,820 --> 04:28:55,220
But that's like something all Jews care about anyway. So it's like a, yeah, it's a cringe

4989
04:28:55,220 --> 04:28:58,780
way they get to it. But remember, these people at Tanki's Marxist, so they don't like a lot

4990
04:28:58,780 --> 04:29:03,620
of social analysis anyway at all is to come through like the lens of either anti USA stuff,

4991
04:29:03,620 --> 04:29:08,020
which they smuggle in through. Yeah. But they smuggle in through other terms. Like they'll

4992
04:29:08,020 --> 04:29:12,580
say they're like anti imperialist or anti military anti war, but that's not true. They're actually

4993
04:29:12,580 --> 04:29:17,580
only anti Western imperialism or anti Western militarism or anti Western war, because they

4994
04:29:17,580 --> 04:29:23,440
have nothing to say, for instance, of Russia, or they have nothing to say of, um, well, they

4995
04:29:23,440 --> 04:29:27,180
do. Yeah, they defend it or. Yeah. So it's just, that's what it is.

4996
04:29:27,180 --> 04:29:30,380
On one hand, I'm like, okay, well, the choice is clear. But then all the time, it's like,

4997
04:29:30,380 --> 04:29:33,980
I can't vote for Abdul because once again, he's going to get something that's innately

4998
04:29:33,980 --> 04:29:34,980
neat.

4999
04:29:34,980 --> 04:29:37,380
The way I feel today, I just won't pick either. I just, I mean, I'll go and vote because I

5000
04:29:37,380 --> 04:29:41,100
think it's so important. You're committed Democrats. Oh, you won't vote. We do democratic

5001
04:29:41,100 --> 04:29:44,460
candidates, but you just can't. What could he, yes, and like, what could he do if anything

5002
04:29:44,460 --> 04:29:47,660
to get you over the edge? But it doesn't sound like there's really anything the damage has

5003
04:29:47,660 --> 04:29:50,420
already been done. I just would love for him to make a definitive statement. Like, just

5004
04:29:50,420 --> 04:29:54,620
say, I would like everyone to know I support Israel. You know, I support the Jewish people,

5005
04:29:54,620 --> 04:29:59,300
you know, their right to exist without hatred. Because people don't have a clarity of understanding

5006
04:29:59,300 --> 04:30:00,020
about what it means.

5007
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:03,920
to support Israel. They believe it is a, oh, it's just saying that Jews get a live and be happy.

5008
04:30:03,920 --> 04:30:06,640
Why wouldn't anybody just say that Jews, Zion just means Jews get to be alive?

5009
04:30:06,640 --> 04:30:11,680
You have to cut through that pogwash. You have to have slogans, yes, that help reveal why it is,

5010
04:30:11,680 --> 04:30:14,080
but that is not sustainable. And as of that, you're going to be kind of co-opting that we've been

5011
04:30:14,080 --> 04:30:17,840
seeing having a breakneck speed over the course of the last year. Look, I thought that Zoramandani answered

5012
04:30:17,840 --> 04:30:21,040
the question, in my opinion, answered it correctly when he was asked during the mayoral debates,

5013
04:30:21,040 --> 04:30:25,600
who you supported Jewish state. And his reply was, quote, I support a state with equal rights for

5014
04:30:25,600 --> 04:30:29,600
everybody. I think that was the correct answer. Which is not going to be a Jewish state. Well, yes,

5015
04:30:29,600 --> 04:30:36,000
I think that's actually implicit in what he said. But no ambiguity on his part about the fate of

5016
04:30:36,640 --> 04:30:40,960
non-Palestinian's in the state. His response was equal rights. I thought that was right.

5017
04:30:40,960 --> 04:30:43,680
But I will be spoken from the river to the sea is too ambiguous.

5018
04:30:44,400 --> 04:30:49,200
I can't believe even now, Norm, as like nobody cares about that phrase, like nobody finds that

5019
04:30:49,200 --> 04:30:54,560
thing doesn't, everybody understands what it means. Well, first of all, no, that's not true,

5020
04:30:54,560 --> 04:30:57,680
that everybody understands what it means. I don't even know if Breanna has said the same thing about

5021
04:30:57,680 --> 04:31:01,840
the phrase constantly. Or I'm sorry, consistently. Number one, number two, the reason why she's

5022
04:31:01,840 --> 04:31:04,160
right that nobody cares about anywhere, because nobody actually cares about the phrase anymore,

5023
04:31:04,160 --> 04:31:07,520
because nobody actually cares about even Israel Palestine that much anymore. Nobody's like really

5024
04:31:07,520 --> 04:31:11,360
talking about it, like, for real, for real. It's just kind of like this background radiation

5025
04:31:11,360 --> 04:31:14,960
issue that just like kind of lingers. And that's it. Yep.

5026
04:31:15,680 --> 04:31:19,280
Well, we've pushed and reclaimed so much territory because people were brave enough to say the true

5027
04:31:19,280 --> 04:31:24,320
and morally right thing. You're still advocating for moderation that got nobody nowhere.

5028
04:31:24,320 --> 04:31:28,800
I'm advocating for two things. Number one, I'm advocating for precision of language.

5029
04:31:28,800 --> 04:31:33,040
It's not imprecise. Like, the problem is that, again, as much as I disagree with Finselstein on

5030
04:31:33,040 --> 04:31:38,160
stuff, Figglesstein will say that like words should mean certain things because they accurately

5031
04:31:38,160 --> 04:31:43,120
resemble certain things. That's his position. I'm gonna agree on what he thinks those words are,

5032
04:31:43,120 --> 04:31:46,560
what they ought to resemble or whatever. But Breanna is coming at this from a politically

5033
04:31:47,600 --> 04:31:52,240
rhetorical perspective, like, what can the words mean that serve my political function? It doesn't

5034
04:31:52,240 --> 04:31:55,680
actually matter if they convey anything accurately or if they convey information. What matters is

5035
04:31:55,680 --> 04:31:58,880
that they advance my political project. That's the only thing she cares about.

5036
04:31:59,520 --> 04:32:03,360
It's not imprecise. You just you just commented, by the way, Zoron's the ambiguity in Zoron's

5037
04:32:03,360 --> 04:32:06,160
response. And then you impute ambiguity to the river to the sea, which actually I think is pretty

5038
04:32:06,160 --> 04:32:10,480
clear as a criticism of that slogan. I think if you advocate if you say instead of something like

5039
04:32:10,480 --> 04:32:14,080
from the river to the sea, if you say one person one vote, I have no problem with that. I have no

5040
04:32:14,080 --> 04:32:17,680
problem with that. You don't want to turn it to slogan and someone like when I say that if they

5041
04:32:17,680 --> 04:32:19,600
want to, but they don't have to, they don't want to. But do you just hear how you said there's

5042
04:32:19,600 --> 04:32:23,760
a teacher ambiguity in Zoron Donnie saying the true thing, which is that I believe in a state

5043
04:32:23,760 --> 04:32:26,560
with equal rights and the implication is obvious that it can't be a state.

5044
04:32:26,560 --> 04:32:29,600
Well, I would have to go through that with you. I don't want to argue it because I think it's

5045
04:32:29,600 --> 04:32:34,080
what you're saying is essentially true. I do agree. And the second thing I said is it's a

5046
04:32:34,080 --> 04:32:39,600
strategic question. The strategic question is very straightforward. Do you try to work within

5047
04:32:39,600 --> 04:32:42,960
the parameters of international law or do you just say F international law?

5048
04:32:42,960 --> 04:32:45,360
Well, we haven't had to get into that part nor but that part is that you sound like you're

5049
04:32:45,360 --> 04:32:48,000
still saying that you're a two-state solution. I'm saying that's what the law says. It's not what

5050
04:32:48,000 --> 04:32:52,800
you're saying. Right. But what the higher law for me is that norm lives in the 60s or whatever

5051
04:32:52,800 --> 04:32:55,440
the fuck. I don't know if Norm would ever use a piece, I don't know if he would ever change his

5052
04:32:55,440 --> 04:33:02,560
opinion on anything. This new one-state pro-Jewish genocide position, this is a very new thing that

5053
04:33:02,560 --> 04:33:08,400
no, I've never heard a serious person take this out before. This is just like a new lefty invention

5054
04:33:08,400 --> 04:33:12,000
that you have to be pro basically Jewish genocide now. That's the new position.

5055
04:33:12,000 --> 04:33:17,120
You have to go all the way to the most extreme thing otherwise you're not pro-Palestinian enough.

5056
04:33:17,120 --> 04:33:21,040
Yeah. Really detailing all the ways that legal institutions, these international legal institutions,

5057
04:33:21,040 --> 04:33:24,160
have failed Palestine and have failed to create accountability for Palestine.

5058
04:33:24,160 --> 04:33:27,200
That's why I don't really put much state in the law and I feel like you don't really either.

5059
04:33:27,200 --> 04:33:30,160
Well, no, I wouldn't say the second but I certainly would say the first. There's a lot of corruption

5060
04:33:30,160 --> 04:33:34,560
for sure. But I did think there were two events and then we have to end it, not because I don't

5061
04:33:34,560 --> 04:33:39,360
enjoy talking with you, but because I have. I said there were two events in the past couple of weeks

5062
04:33:39,360 --> 04:33:42,800
in the UK which we should all pay attention to. One was the one you just mentioned, the Green Party

5063
04:33:42,800 --> 04:33:48,160
decision to endorse, the designers of this racist resolution also to endorse one state. There were

5064
04:33:48,160 --> 04:33:54,480
three components of the revision in the Green Party program and the second development was

5065
04:33:54,480 --> 04:34:02,320
Ralph Millman saying I'm going to put myself behind. Wait, do I need grass or dirt for them to grow up?

5066
04:34:02,320 --> 04:34:07,600
I just realized this. Where can I put them on? The line British government policy is now going

5067
04:34:07,600 --> 04:34:11,680
to be consistent with international law and I think the more significant and the more promising

5068
04:34:11,680 --> 04:34:14,960
development is the one by Ed Millman. But don't you think those are related? Don't you think the

5069
04:34:14,960 --> 04:34:18,400
Green Party's political successes this year and the way they've been pulling the conversation to the

5070
04:34:18,400 --> 04:34:22,800
left is forcing the center to take a more pro-palatized position? Yes, the question is how far you can push

5071
04:34:22,800 --> 04:34:26,400
and I don't think this whole conversation we're having about the election and the limit in that

5072
04:34:26,400 --> 04:34:29,360
discussion is with the squad. They're supposed to be the left vanguard, but they're supposed to be the

5073
04:34:29,360 --> 04:34:33,200
left vanguard and they're not doing that and that's enabling. The workers movement for a very long

5074
04:34:33,200 --> 04:34:38,800
period in European and American history. It advocated for the eight hour working day. It didn't

5075
04:34:38,800 --> 04:34:44,560
advocate for the two while we're working day. I don't mean literally two, but with a compromise

5076
04:34:44,560 --> 04:34:52,960
position. Exactly. I'm not going to live to see it, obviously. I believe in the world without

5077
04:34:52,960 --> 04:34:55,520
states. I don't believe in states. I think states are completely at this point in time,

5078
04:34:55,520 --> 04:34:59,120
they're completely absurd because all the major problems in front of humanity either be it climate

5079
04:34:59,120 --> 04:35:01,920
change be a noob.

5080
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:02,100
we are conflagration, be it a fault during the economy, we

5081
04:35:02,100 --> 04:35:03,800
obviously have to be solved in a global level, they can be,

5082
04:35:04,200 --> 04:35:06,300
you can't solve climate change on a state by state level, it's

5083
04:35:06,300 --> 04:35:07,820
not going to happen. Of course, it has to be a world without

5084
04:35:07,820 --> 04:35:09,740
states, if we're going to confront the major existential

5085
04:35:09,740 --> 04:35:13,020
problems confronting humanity. So we have, I have no problem

5086
04:35:13,020 --> 04:35:15,780
with radical slogans. I'm saying there was a realistic

5087
04:35:15,780 --> 04:35:18,980
assessment by the workers movement, a realistic, if long

5088
04:35:18,980 --> 04:35:23,060
term, realistic, if long term goal was an eight hour day, there

5089
04:35:23,060 --> 04:35:25,380
was a realistic turn out to be long term, the African National

5090
04:35:25,380 --> 04:35:28,380
Charter is an early 1950s. It was realistic, but maybe long

5091
04:35:28,380 --> 04:35:32,260
term, one person, one vote, not expel all the whites, either

5092
04:35:32,260 --> 04:35:34,220
people didn't like it. For more reason, so they thought it was

5093
04:35:34,220 --> 04:35:37,940
a completely unrealistic goal. And the same way here, I think

5094
04:35:37,940 --> 04:35:41,940
in force international law is, it may take a long term, but

5095
04:35:41,940 --> 04:35:45,620
it's more realistic than the politics adopted by the Green

5096
04:35:45,620 --> 04:35:46,540
Party. That's a statement.

5097
04:35:46,740 --> 04:35:48,860
But put a point on that, because in each one, you offer

5098
04:35:48,860 --> 04:35:50,500
parallelism on each of those other examples. So what is it

5099
04:35:50,500 --> 04:35:52,140
that the Green parties are at the Green Party? What's

5100
04:35:52,140 --> 04:35:53,460
unrealistic about what the Green Party is asking for?

5101
04:35:53,540 --> 04:35:55,940
International law recognizes Israel's estate. There's no

5102
04:35:55,980 --> 04:35:57,860
dispute about that. What kind of state? South Africa is a

5103
04:35:57,860 --> 04:36:00,020
state, South Africa was a state, didn't stop being a state.

5104
04:36:00,180 --> 04:36:03,060
Right, then you advocate that there has to be equality rights

5105
04:36:03,060 --> 04:36:05,380
within the state of Israel. That's OK. What would be the end

5106
04:36:05,380 --> 04:36:07,380
of Zionism? I don't want to get into those arguments, because

5107
04:36:07,380 --> 04:36:09,620
I'm not concerned about Zionism. You see, that's the

5108
04:36:09,620 --> 04:36:12,500
question I have. You're offering criticism of the Green

5109
04:36:12,500 --> 04:36:15,260
Party's motion of resolution to say that Zionism is racism.

5110
04:36:15,900 --> 04:36:18,460
And wait, that wasn't the only motion. First of all, we'll

5111
04:36:18,460 --> 04:36:20,540
take it in pieces. But do you did back say that you disagree

5112
04:36:20,540 --> 04:36:23,500
with that aspect of it? First of all, as I said already, the

5113
04:36:23,500 --> 04:36:25,960
conclusion follows from their definition. If you

5114
04:36:25,960 --> 04:36:28,580
define just hypothetically, I don't agree with it. But if you

5115
04:36:28,580 --> 04:36:31,340
define Zionism as Zionists like to say, the National

5116
04:36:31,340 --> 04:36:33,500
Liberation Movement of the Jewish people, if you define it

5117
04:36:33,540 --> 04:36:36,100
that way, then you reach a different conclusion about

5118
04:36:36,100 --> 04:36:37,180
whether or not it's racist.

5119
04:36:37,420 --> 04:36:40,660
And if I define white supremacy as the self determination of

5120
04:36:40,660 --> 04:36:44,380
white people to have actually that is a problem. That was a

5121
04:36:44,380 --> 04:36:46,260
problem because that was the South African justification of a

5122
04:36:46,260 --> 04:36:48,740
apartheid. That was exactly what they said. It was self

5123
04:36:48,740 --> 04:36:50,900
and not to Germany. They said, well, not to Germany is

5124
04:36:50,900 --> 04:36:53,140
different because it was extermination. Ultimately, it

5125
04:36:53,140 --> 04:36:53,620
was exterminated.

5126
04:36:53,620 --> 04:36:55,600
I'm sorry. What is the last three years shown you? What is

5127
04:36:55,600 --> 04:36:56,280
mowing the lawn?

5128
04:36:56,780 --> 04:37:00,060
Remember, okay, not all my fucking God, what a stupid

5129
04:37:03,020 --> 04:37:05,260
You have a very sharp, acute mind, but sometimes it goes too

5130
04:37:05,260 --> 04:37:11,580
fast. Okay, also norm is old school is fuck norm is sexist

5131
04:37:11,680 --> 04:37:14,820
and racist. He absolutely, maybe not like in an overt

5132
04:37:14,820 --> 04:37:18,140
horrible way. But he absolutely is. Has he am I making this? Oh,

5133
04:37:18,140 --> 04:37:21,380
no, he says her name, not honey. He says Brianna Brianna. Yeah,

5134
04:37:21,380 --> 04:37:24,220
I saw who man who and he'll say some shit that is just like,

5135
04:37:24,460 --> 04:37:25,980
he'll say some shit. That's just like, what?

5136
04:37:27,100 --> 04:37:29,380
Remember, not to Germany carried out an extermination.

5137
04:37:31,420 --> 04:37:36,860
Japan killed 26 million Chinese very ugly. Well, nobody knows

5138
04:37:36,860 --> 04:37:40,780
about it. It was illegal. It's own 26 million Chinese were

5139
04:37:40,780 --> 04:37:43,540
exterminated by the Japanese. Why do I mention it? That's why

5140
04:37:43,540 --> 04:37:47,740
hate because Germany as a state, as a state, it survived. We

5141
04:37:47,740 --> 04:37:50,580
still have Germany in the world. It carried out the genocide of

5142
04:37:50,580 --> 04:37:55,580
significant magnitude. Japan as a state, it's no survives, even

5143
04:37:55,580 --> 04:37:58,580
though it carried out a genocide of a very significant magnitude

5144
04:37:58,740 --> 04:38:04,340
close to the Germans exterminated 27 million Russians. Japan

5145
04:38:04,340 --> 04:38:04,700
exterminated.

5146
04:38:07,940 --> 04:38:11,100
I don't know if I like that term there exterminated 27 million

5147
04:38:11,100 --> 04:38:13,260
Russians. Is he talking is that every Russian killed during

5148
04:38:13,260 --> 04:38:15,300
the war exterminated a weird word night to be like to use our

5149
04:38:15,300 --> 04:38:15,460
root.

5150
04:38:16,420 --> 04:38:19,620
26 million Chinese was pretty close as states, they still

5151
04:38:19,620 --> 04:38:22,340
exist. They came under an occupation after the war, the

5152
04:38:22,340 --> 04:38:24,900
four powers occupied Germany, the United States occupying

5153
04:38:24,900 --> 04:38:30,420
Japan. But they still existed as states. So my point is, I

5154
04:38:30,420 --> 04:38:34,020
believe the international community, parse and parse and

5155
04:38:34,020 --> 04:38:37,140
parse and parse the Israel Palestine conflict, they finally

5156
04:38:37,140 --> 04:38:40,340
came to some sort of resolution of how it should be south. In

5157
04:38:40,340 --> 04:38:43,380
the case of South Africa, the consensus with the exception

5158
04:38:43,380 --> 04:38:46,580
of market Thatcher and Ronald Reagan, the consensus was one

5159
04:38:46,580 --> 04:38:49,380
state. That was the UN position, one state, South Africa is

5160
04:38:49,380 --> 04:38:51,580
going to be one state, even though South Africans said, they

5161
04:38:51,580 --> 04:38:53,140
said there are eight different nationalities in South

5162
04:38:53,140 --> 04:38:55,500
Africa. That was the argument. So we're going to build, they

5163
04:38:55,500 --> 04:38:57,820
came to be called dentists, trans skies, this guy, both

5164
04:38:57,820 --> 04:39:00,340
of us, come on up, you know, all these little states in which

5165
04:39:00,340 --> 04:39:02,620
each state with exercise, it's self determination. That's what

5166
04:39:02,620 --> 04:39:04,460
they said. And white people would have their state for their

5167
04:39:04,460 --> 04:39:06,540
self determination, which happens to include the overwhelming

5168
04:39:06,540 --> 04:39:09,260
amount of Africa, the agricultural land, and everything

5169
04:39:09,260 --> 04:39:11,340
that was valuable, the narrows, you and rejected that

5170
04:39:11,340 --> 04:39:13,460
international war rejected, you know, the South Africa case

5171
04:39:13,460 --> 04:39:16,580
came before the ICJ seven times, this whole issue with South

5172
04:39:16,580 --> 04:39:18,260
Africa, and what was called back then South West Africa, and

5173
04:39:18,260 --> 04:39:20,420
then came we call the video, that's what the international

5174
04:39:24,220 --> 04:39:27,100
17 and 19 million civilians died from direct violence, massacres,

5175
04:39:27,100 --> 04:39:30,180
forced labor disease, starvation, World War II, maybe

5176
04:39:30,180 --> 04:39:31,460
okay, maybe that is accurate to say.

5177
04:39:32,820 --> 04:39:36,580
Community result, one state, but the international system itself

5178
04:39:36,620 --> 04:39:40,460
on Israel Palestine, two states, and it's very hard to get past

5179
04:39:40,980 --> 04:39:45,140
that resolution, it's hard to change, it's like trying to go

5180
04:39:45,140 --> 04:39:47,180
from eight hour a day to the two hour a day, it's a very tough

5181
04:39:47,180 --> 04:39:50,220
battle, it's a tough battle, your contention is these international

5182
04:39:50,220 --> 04:39:53,300
organizations that had biased judges, rigged sexual violence

5183
04:39:53,300 --> 04:39:56,300
reports, all the things that you detail in your book, with all

5184
04:39:56,300 --> 04:39:59,380
their corruption have resolved on a two state solution, mean that

5185
04:39:59,380 --> 04:39:59,980
it is impossible.

5186
04:40:00,000 --> 04:40:03,680
to imagine anything other than that and therefore you reject the premise that one of those states

5187
04:40:03,680 --> 04:40:06,480
believing in that one of those states that's a Jewish state is racist?

5188
04:40:07,120 --> 04:40:11,920
Well I do not reject that it's racist. It was a Jewish supremacist state. I've said it 100,000 times.

5189
04:40:11,920 --> 04:40:14,640
Okay, so then you do agree with the Green Party, the Prong of the Green Party resolution that

5190
04:40:14,640 --> 04:40:18,560
designed us as racism. I once designed this and I'd say Israel is and from its inception was

5191
04:40:18,560 --> 04:40:21,120
a Jewish supremacist state. I don't think you can get around that.

5192
04:40:23,120 --> 04:40:26,080
No clue. You have a screen party? I have a screen party? I have an action.

5193
04:40:26,080 --> 04:40:30,000
Yeah I'm assuming I'm assuming American Green Party. Because somebody in case I was

5194
04:40:30,000 --> 04:40:35,360
fucking roasting me over like oh she thinks it's the American Green Party. Like yeah yeah I think

5195
04:40:35,360 --> 04:40:38,560
she's talking about the American Green Party. People are saying the UK Green Party. I don't know.

5196
04:40:39,440 --> 04:40:43,840
What? Okay. One to get around though. I have no interest in trying to deny reality.

5197
04:40:43,840 --> 04:40:47,680
Facts speak to themselves even interpret facts in different ways but the facts on themselves

5198
04:40:47,680 --> 04:40:51,760
are unshakable. So I have no problem saying. I agree with Benny Morris. Morris wrote at one

5199
04:40:51,760 --> 04:40:56,080
point when he was saying Benny Morris said the idea of transfer which was the euphemism back then

5200
04:40:56,080 --> 04:41:01,840
for expulsion. The idea of transfer was in built and inherent in Zionism. I think that's correct.

5201
04:41:01,840 --> 04:41:05,120
And that's not racist. The idea that you have to expel a population for not being Jewish.

5202
04:41:05,120 --> 04:41:11,120
I think that's correct. But it would require and I don't want to bore I don't want to bore

5203
04:41:11,120 --> 04:41:16,240
listeners now it would require going through all sorts of nuances which in my opinion make it much

5204
04:41:16,240 --> 04:41:22,000
more useful to use the expression Jewish supremacy than Zionism because nobody can defend themselves

5205
04:41:22,000 --> 04:41:25,280
against the charge of being the Jewish. The reason why the point to Zionism is because Zionism is

5206
04:41:25,280 --> 04:41:29,520
the word that's being used to justify the genocide. And people's entitlement the normalization

5207
04:41:29,520 --> 04:41:34,400
of Zionism as an ideology is what is being used as a political tool to justify it all. No one is

5208
04:41:34,400 --> 04:41:38,240
self-identifying the Jewish supremacist. So it kind of is a move. I don't think in my opinion

5209
04:41:38,240 --> 04:41:42,400
Zionism is not being used at all to justify. What's being used to justify is the claims like Israel

5210
04:41:42,400 --> 04:41:45,920
is the only Jewish state in the world. That's Zionism. That's Zionism. The entitlement to a Jewish

5211
04:41:45,920 --> 04:41:50,320
state is that that's a state of Jewish character. And ethnically majority in Jewish state is the

5212
04:41:50,320 --> 04:41:55,280
problem. Is that the Zionism? Yeah, I know it's getting late. I'm not trying to pop out. But the

5213
04:41:55,280 --> 04:41:59,840
I was getting late. I said they had a heartbreak at 1230 and I think that's it. Um, I was just a I

5214
04:41:59,840 --> 04:42:09,840
think. I think the differences between us, you know, there is an element of that's called theoretical

5215
04:42:09,840 --> 04:42:14,560
difference. But the main difference is a practical one. What's a realistic slogan? And I believe

5216
04:42:14,560 --> 04:42:17,760
I don't think that's the main difference. I mean, I think you know that there are people who,

5217
04:42:17,760 --> 04:42:23,360
although they really appreciate your scholarship and advocacy for Palestine. Oh, my God. You're not

5218
04:42:23,360 --> 04:42:27,520
a good professor. Tell me if this is an accurate characterization of you being a sort of two-state

5219
04:42:27,520 --> 04:42:32,320
solution person. I don't mean to bring this in the last minute, but I feel like I have to sum up.

5220
04:42:32,320 --> 04:42:36,080
My fundamental beliefs have not changed. I've found another belief. I've not changed since I was

5221
04:42:36,080 --> 04:42:41,600
about 16 years old. Obviously, as Muhammad Ali once said, if you believe the same things at age 40,

5222
04:42:41,600 --> 04:42:45,200
that you believe that age 20, then you've wasted 20 years of your life, which is to say one helps

5223
04:42:45,200 --> 04:42:50,080
in the course of one's life. You acquire more wisdom, more knowledge, and you modify your beliefs

5224
04:42:50,080 --> 04:42:53,680
on the basis of having acquired more wisdom and more knowledge. So obviously, there are things

5225
04:42:53,680 --> 04:42:56,800
I think differently now than I did then. But my fundamental beliefs, I can't say are much different.

5226
04:42:56,800 --> 04:43:01,360
I never cared very much about states. That does feel like your sort of side seven issue.

5227
04:43:01,920 --> 04:43:04,560
There are people who are very invested in states because they don't, they're stateless, right?

5228
04:43:04,560 --> 04:43:13,120
So having said that states are not for me a critical value, as ethnic identity is not a critical value,

5229
04:43:13,120 --> 04:43:17,120
if you would ask me the person that most admired in the history of revolutionary socialism,

5230
04:43:17,120 --> 04:43:23,680
it would be Rosa Luxembourg. Why? Rosa Luxembourg was Polish. She was Jewish. She was a middle class.

5231
04:43:23,680 --> 04:43:29,920
She was obviously a woman. She had a hip impairment. And this Polish Jewish middle class woman

5232
04:43:29,920 --> 04:43:35,920
physically did this able. She became the leader of the radical wing of the German workers party,

5233
04:43:35,920 --> 04:43:42,720
of the German workers party, a woman middle class Jewish. And she was beloved by the German left wing

5234
04:43:42,720 --> 04:43:47,680
working class, somebody who completely transcended all of her identities in ways which are just

5235
04:43:47,680 --> 04:43:51,520
wondrous. Not only she did it, but they loved her. They revered her. They didn't care that she

5236
04:43:51,520 --> 04:43:54,240
was Polish. They didn't care that she was Jewish. They didn't care that she was a woman. They didn't

5237
04:43:54,240 --> 04:44:01,040
care about that. States are not important to me. National identity is not important to me.

5238
04:44:01,040 --> 04:44:04,880
Ethnicities aren't important to me. It does feel like maintaining a Jewish state is important to you.

5239
04:44:06,800 --> 04:44:11,680
You've known me for quite a long time. Not very long, but long enough. That's just such an alien

5240
04:44:11,680 --> 04:44:16,160
category to me, the idea of wanting to preserve a Jewish state. It's such an alien. What I've

5241
04:44:16,160 --> 04:44:20,800
watched about is what is a more likely strategy to achieve something substantive in the real world.

5242
04:44:20,800 --> 04:44:24,560
Can we put that to the side for a second? What do you think should happen? More likely legally,

5243
04:44:24,560 --> 04:44:27,520
what should be the outcome? It depends on what you mean in the short term or in the long term,

5244
04:44:27,520 --> 04:44:30,960
long term I believe in the abolition of states. In the short term, the essence of politics is

5245
04:44:30,960 --> 04:44:34,640
you assess the balance of power at any particular place. And where things seem to be petty, you know,

5246
04:44:34,640 --> 04:44:38,640
what you call the subterranean forces at play, in order to see what's the maximum that you can

5247
04:44:38,640 --> 04:44:44,400
extract at any given moment, which is consistent with your long term goals. I remain a communist

5248
04:44:44,400 --> 04:44:47,600
as a long term goal. I still believe from each according to his ability to each according to his

5249
04:44:47,600 --> 04:44:51,120
need is the right slogan of a just society. I believe that the free development of each

5250
04:44:51,120 --> 04:44:54,320
is a precondition for the free development of all. I think that's an accurate description of

5251
04:44:54,320 --> 04:44:57,760
a world in which I live. From each according to his ability to each according to her need,

5252
04:44:57,760 --> 04:44:59,840
the free development of each is the free development of all. That's

5253
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:04,240
long-term goal, which I'll obviously not live to see any of, but that's my fundamental

5254
04:45:04,240 --> 04:45:08,400
beliefs. But then politics is about, at any particular moment, what you can

5255
04:45:08,400 --> 04:45:12,000
arrest W.R.E.S.T., what you can arrest, the maximum that you can

5256
04:45:12,000 --> 04:45:13,920
arrest, that's consistent with your long-term goals.

5257
04:45:13,920 --> 04:45:20,400
So despite the two-state solution being offered as a sort of carrot, that

5258
04:45:20,400 --> 04:45:23,440
never comes to fruition, despite the explicitly...

5259
04:45:23,440 --> 04:45:25,200
I know in South Africa, the African...

5260
04:45:25,200 --> 04:45:27,680
In Palestine, I'm talking about the Middle East, all the Palestine.

5261
04:45:27,680 --> 04:45:31,200
African national charter was issued in the early 1950s, apartheid didn't end

5262
04:45:31,200 --> 04:45:33,120
until 40 years later. I know it's a long battle.

5263
04:45:33,120 --> 04:45:36,560
And the eight-hour day, guess what? We're losing the eight-hour day, we're not

5264
04:45:36,560 --> 04:45:38,000
gay. Right, and I would argue it's precisely because we

5265
04:45:38,000 --> 04:45:39,760
don't have a left that is willing to push for more.

5266
04:45:39,760 --> 04:45:43,280
And so the corporate center, right, feels comfortable taking from us, because

5267
04:45:43,280 --> 04:45:45,600
that has become the moderate position, between the anemic left and the right

5268
04:45:45,600 --> 04:45:48,320
wing. And so we have right wing retrenchment precisely because nobody is

5269
04:45:48,320 --> 04:45:50,880
willing to fight, and even imagine what should be.

5270
04:45:50,880 --> 04:45:55,520
I imagine, you know, John Lennon, imagine the world without, I forgot.

5271
04:45:55,520 --> 04:45:58,400
There's a lot to think. No, you've got a bad picture.

5272
04:45:58,400 --> 04:46:01,840
Yeah, above us only sky. Lots of things to imagine.

5273
04:46:01,840 --> 04:46:04,240
How would you go? Yeah, I'll let you go.

5274
04:46:04,240 --> 04:46:05,680
I hate the arm. She hates the arm.

5275
04:46:05,680 --> 04:46:08,480
Predictably, we didn't get very far into...

5276
04:46:08,480 --> 04:46:10,800
She hates him.

5277
04:46:11,120 --> 04:46:13,680
Or herself had her house raided today.

5278
04:46:13,680 --> 04:46:18,160
That's right. Ilhan Omar herself had her house raided today.

5279
04:46:18,160 --> 04:46:22,320
That's right. That's right. A sitting congresswoman has had her house raided.

5280
04:46:22,320 --> 04:46:24,080
Oh my god, asthma and gold.

5281
04:46:24,080 --> 04:46:26,880
He's like, based. He's like, I'm okay. Make no mistake.

5282
04:46:26,880 --> 04:46:29,520
This is an attempt to target political enemies and weaponize federal law

5283
04:46:29,520 --> 04:46:31,760
enforcement. And I'm okay with that. For 10 years, Trump has targeted me with

5284
04:46:31,760 --> 04:46:34,960
baseless lies and smear campaigns. This is just the latest escalation in his

5285
04:46:34,960 --> 04:46:38,000
campaign of political intimidation. I will not be silenced.

5286
04:46:38,000 --> 04:46:40,720
Right, right, of course. And so anyway, let's take a look at it.

5287
04:46:40,720 --> 04:46:43,120
Well, this happened a little bit shortly after six o'clock this morning

5288
04:46:43,120 --> 04:46:46,160
here at Congresswoman Omar. Well, this happened a little bit shortly after six

5289
04:46:46,160 --> 04:46:47,840
o'clock this morning here. What about the things at the dawn, Trump?

5290
04:46:47,840 --> 04:46:51,920
Again, it's never ever like, even if they didn't do that, I'd still do

5291
04:46:51,920 --> 04:46:54,000
this to them, right? Like, I mean, people like Ilhan Omar need to be

5292
04:46:54,000 --> 04:46:56,560
uh, totally shipped out of the country, right? Seize all over well.

5293
04:46:56,560 --> 04:46:59,440
Jesus, right, right. And just let them figure it out.

5294
04:46:59,440 --> 04:47:03,280
That's what I mean by the way, uh, home and watching TV is on TV.

5295
04:47:03,280 --> 04:47:05,920
It does not appear so because we've been out here for several hours now.

5296
04:47:05,920 --> 04:47:08,480
After this happened, you can see on scene behind me, uh, there are several

5297
04:47:08,480 --> 04:47:11,120
investigators from Homeland Security investigations. I'm gonna back out of the way.

5298
04:47:11,120 --> 04:47:14,320
Homeland Security investigations. They go by HSI. They are on scene.

5299
04:47:14,320 --> 04:47:16,560
Homeland security. DOJ involved in this investigation.

5300
04:47:16,560 --> 04:47:19,440
We don't have details, guys, specifically about what the investigation entails,

5301
04:47:19,440 --> 04:47:22,880
but we can report that it is a federal criminal investigation. I want to read

5302
04:47:22,880 --> 04:47:27,360
a statement from a DOJ spokesperson that says, bro, if Trump sends this

5303
04:47:27,360 --> 04:47:31,360
bitch back to Somalia, I really think that it's going to be a turning point.

5304
04:47:31,360 --> 04:47:34,720
It is. I think if she gets sent back to Somalia and on the way back,

5305
04:47:34,720 --> 04:47:36,800
by the way, we should seize everything that she owns. We should send her back with

5306
04:47:36,800 --> 04:47:39,520
the shoes on her feet and nothing else. Send this hot dropper into the zone

5307
04:47:39,520 --> 04:47:42,880
like it's the beginning of a fortnight match. Today in the Washington, DC

5308
04:47:42,880 --> 04:47:45,520
area, Homeland Security investigations, actually,

5309
04:47:45,520 --> 04:47:47,920
authorized search warrant secured by the Department of Justice. This

5310
04:47:47,920 --> 04:47:51,440
unfortunate action is part of an ongoing federal criminal investigation.

5311
04:47:51,440 --> 04:47:54,160
Again, we are out here at the Congresswoman's home in Washington, DC.

5312
04:47:54,160 --> 04:47:57,040
No public comments from her at this time, but agents have been out here for

5313
04:47:57,040 --> 04:48:00,080
several hours. Fairly quiet on the street today on this Columbus day here in

5314
04:48:00,080 --> 04:48:03,200
Washington, DC, a couple of agents outside going in and out of the home.

5315
04:48:03,200 --> 04:48:06,160
These are definitely moves to excite the base to vote again. Can you imagine how

5316
04:48:06,160 --> 04:48:09,040
energized everybody would be to vote for Trump again? If Trump actually bombed the

5317
04:48:09,040 --> 04:48:11,760
shit out of Iran and actually went after their entire leadership apparatus,

5318
04:48:11,760 --> 04:48:14,400
actually shut down every single ship that they had, actually shut down their

5319
04:48:14,400 --> 04:48:16,960
entire currency system in the first week, actually went after it. We did go

5320
04:48:16,960 --> 04:48:19,760
after Maduro, actually went after these people, designated Antifa a terrorist

5321
04:48:19,760 --> 04:48:22,480
organization and sent the military after them, actually sent this bit back to

5322
04:48:22,480 --> 04:48:24,960
Somalia and a lot of these other people back to their home countries.

5323
04:48:24,960 --> 04:48:28,080
And, you know, and he released the Epstein files without acting like a massive

5324
04:48:28,080 --> 04:48:30,640
weirdo over it. Oh my god, it would be the biggest blowout you'd ever

5325
04:48:30,640 --> 04:48:33,440
imagine. It really would have been. And he's made some good decisions. It's not

5326
04:48:33,440 --> 04:48:36,240
like everything has been bad. But you're right. Yeah, no, I want again,

5327
04:48:36,240 --> 04:48:39,440
I want more of this. A real strong presence, but still no comment from the

5328
04:48:39,440 --> 04:48:42,240
Congresswoman at this time. But we can't confirm she is under federal criminal

5329
04:48:42,240 --> 04:48:44,720
investigation. I do want to add one more thing if I can, guys. A judge did have to

5330
04:48:44,720 --> 04:48:47,680
sign off on this search warrant. This is not something DOJ or Homeland Security

5331
04:48:47,680 --> 04:48:50,320
could just do at POC. This is something a federal judge would have had to sign

5332
04:48:50,320 --> 04:48:53,600
off on for them behind me to be here today, guys. So, so they've really

5333
04:48:53,600 --> 04:48:56,400
written out to our sources. One of our sources is telling us this is in

5334
04:48:56,400 --> 04:49:00,160
connection with Rico investigation. My question is, since they've rated the

5335
04:49:00,160 --> 04:49:03,360
DC home, is Minnesota being rated at the same time right now? Do you know?

5336
04:49:04,800 --> 04:49:06,640
Yeah, we have no information on Minnesota. It's a question we've asked

5337
04:49:06,640 --> 04:49:09,360
nothing at this time. We obviously know she lives in Minnesota. She may presumably

5338
04:49:09,360 --> 04:49:12,400
be there right now. That could be part of the investigation. But as far as the

5339
04:49:12,400 --> 04:49:15,360
DC angle of this, we just know the DC home right now is part of this investigation.

5340
04:49:15,360 --> 04:49:17,920
Oh, this happened. That's crazy, bro. Like she actually got our fucking house

5341
04:49:17,920 --> 04:49:21,280
rated. And again, this should only be the beginning, by the way. Federal age. Here we go.

5342
04:49:22,400 --> 04:49:25,040
Back with the Fox News alert. We're learning that the Washington DC home of

5343
04:49:25,040 --> 04:49:28,320
Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar was rated early this morning by Homeland

5344
04:49:28,320 --> 04:49:31,920
Security Investigations. Fox is told by multiple law enforcement sources. This

5345
04:49:31,920 --> 04:49:35,120
began early this morning around 6 a.m. Eastern. Homeland Security and the DOJ

5346
04:49:35,120 --> 04:49:38,640
are both working on the investigation. A DOJ spokesperson telling Fox this quote

5347
04:49:38,640 --> 04:49:41,680
today in the Washington DC area, Homeland Security Investigations executed a

5348
04:49:41,680 --> 04:49:44,560
judicially authorized search warrant secured by the Department of Justice.

5349
04:49:44,560 --> 04:49:47,760
This enforcement actually is part of an ongoing investigation.

5350
04:49:48,400 --> 04:49:51,200
There you go. And I love to see her go. I know. Like, if they end up

5351
04:49:51,200 --> 04:49:53,840
reporting her, I really think that that will motivate a lot of people to vote.

5352
04:49:53,840 --> 04:49:56,160
It will. Like, because that's actually like, it's real action.

5353
04:49:56,160 --> 04:49:59,120
HSI agents are currently dragging evidence out of her house in vehicles.

5354
04:49:59,120 --> 04:50:00,320
So it's been going on.

5355
04:50:00,000 --> 04:50:01,280
One for four hours.

5356
04:50:04,760 --> 04:50:06,000
- I hate this country man.

5357
04:50:06,000 --> 04:50:07,600
No, I love this country, sorry.

5358
04:50:07,600 --> 04:50:09,160
- Yup, time to go into the box.

5359
04:50:14,680 --> 04:50:15,600
That's a lot of stuff.

5360
04:50:19,720 --> 04:50:20,640
That takes Accender home.

5361
04:50:20,640 --> 04:50:21,480
She goes to my princess,

5362
04:50:21,480 --> 04:50:22,320
Cinder is a Malia land.

5363
04:50:22,320 --> 04:50:23,160
She goes as a prisoner.

5364
04:50:23,160 --> 04:50:24,840
Where did I say to Cinder to?

5365
04:50:24,840 --> 04:50:27,000
- Ha ha, at the extent of the worstly closed.

5366
04:50:27,000 --> 04:50:27,880
- Stop the genocide.

5367
04:50:27,880 --> 04:50:28,960
Free Palestine.

5368
04:50:30,040 --> 04:50:30,880
- To be fair, I probably said both.

5369
04:50:30,880 --> 04:50:32,040
But yeah, I would send her some Malia land.

5370
04:50:32,040 --> 04:50:33,280
- I would, of course.

5371
04:50:33,280 --> 04:50:34,280
The worst place possible.

5372
04:50:34,280 --> 04:50:35,600
- No, no, no.

5373
04:50:35,600 --> 04:50:36,440
- Is there some Malia land?

5374
04:50:36,440 --> 04:50:37,280
- Yeah, I was praying for the midterms.

5375
04:50:37,280 --> 04:50:38,720
Yeah, I'm so happy about this.

5376
04:50:38,720 --> 04:50:39,920
- Like, and this is, by the way,

5377
04:50:39,920 --> 04:50:42,440
this is like literally Trump in first year.

5378
04:50:42,440 --> 04:50:43,440
- I think, I don't know,

5379
04:50:43,440 --> 04:50:44,480
I didn't follow it super closely,

5380
04:50:44,480 --> 04:50:46,720
but I think the context behind the reason why he's saying that,

5381
04:50:46,720 --> 04:50:49,680
are you familiar with this, the drama or whatever?

5382
04:50:49,680 --> 04:50:52,680
- Are you talking about like the Somalians have low IQ

5383
04:50:52,680 --> 04:50:54,240
or some money? - No, no, no, no.

5384
04:50:54,240 --> 04:50:57,680
I think there's like a separatist fight,

5385
04:50:57,680 --> 04:50:59,280
or I don't know if it's a civil war yet or whatever,

5386
04:50:59,280 --> 04:51:01,520
but isn't it that there's a part of Somalia

5387
04:51:01,520 --> 04:51:04,280
that wants to break off called Somali land or whatever?

5388
04:51:04,280 --> 04:51:06,960
- Oh, yes, yes, yeah, yeah.

5389
04:51:06,960 --> 04:51:09,160
- Do the Somali civil war or some shit, right?

5390
04:51:09,160 --> 04:51:10,000
- Yeah, and I think she's,

5391
04:51:10,000 --> 04:51:12,760
and he wants to send her back to the other side of that conflict

5392
04:51:12,760 --> 04:51:14,240
with the assumption that she would get executed,

5393
04:51:14,240 --> 04:51:16,080
I'm guessing, or whatever is, yeah,

5394
04:51:16,080 --> 04:51:17,480
that's why he's saying that.

5395
04:51:19,120 --> 04:51:21,200
- It was going as fast and as hard as I would want it to go.

5396
04:51:21,200 --> 04:51:22,880
I mean, she probably would already be in jail.

5397
04:51:22,880 --> 04:51:24,000
Here we go.

5398
04:51:24,000 --> 04:51:26,680
- No, in Jidotini and what a similar,

5399
04:51:26,680 --> 04:51:29,560
I think one high-gubber-- - I'm an American migrant.

5400
04:51:29,560 --> 04:51:31,680
- In the U.S. Congress. - In the U.S. Congress.

5401
04:51:31,680 --> 04:51:33,720
- But I'm a Somali girl.

5402
04:51:33,720 --> 04:51:35,800
(speaking in foreign language)

5403
04:51:35,800 --> 04:51:37,120
- Let me fix this.

5404
04:51:37,120 --> 04:51:38,640
- A girl with your religion.

5405
04:51:38,640 --> 04:51:41,200
It was a young child taken from our country.

5406
04:51:41,200 --> 04:51:43,120
She was taken from our country because her father

5407
04:51:43,120 --> 04:51:44,920
was a violent warlord who was losing,

5408
04:51:44,920 --> 04:51:46,320
and he had to leave before they killed him

5409
04:51:46,320 --> 04:51:47,840
and his entire family.

5410
04:51:47,840 --> 04:51:50,320
That's the reason why she was taken from our country.

5411
04:51:50,320 --> 04:51:51,680
- I don't know, back story, exactly.

5412
04:51:51,680 --> 04:51:53,480
(speaking in foreign language)

5413
04:51:53,480 --> 04:51:54,600
- Share with his people.

5414
04:51:54,600 --> 04:51:55,440
- Yeah.

5415
04:51:55,440 --> 04:51:57,480
(speaking in foreign language)

5416
04:51:57,480 --> 04:51:58,800
- Do you think there's a realist time

5417
04:51:58,800 --> 04:51:59,720
where we see yourself back on Twitter

5418
04:51:59,720 --> 04:52:01,760
where the election are even beyond,

5419
04:52:01,760 --> 04:52:02,920
before the midterms?

5420
04:52:02,920 --> 04:52:05,040
Absolutely not, before the presidential election?

5421
04:52:05,040 --> 04:52:06,440
It all comes down to,

5422
04:52:08,200 --> 04:52:09,960
well, it all comes down to whether or not Dan is still there.

5423
04:52:09,960 --> 04:52:11,480
The question, I think,

5424
04:52:11,480 --> 04:52:13,940
I'm trying to think of like what this hinges on.

5425
04:52:15,320 --> 04:52:17,200
It feels like it hinges on whether or well,

5426
04:52:17,200 --> 04:52:19,400
no, that's never, he's never gonna change, obviously.

5427
04:52:19,400 --> 04:52:21,960
But it comes down to whether or not Amazon catches

5428
04:52:21,960 --> 04:52:23,520
enough heat, I guess, or something,

5429
04:52:23,520 --> 04:52:26,360
or that Twitch is just losing so much money

5430
04:52:26,360 --> 04:52:29,360
that eventually Amazon decides to change the leadership.

5431
04:52:29,360 --> 04:52:31,040
They do switch out CEOs from companies they own.

5432
04:52:31,040 --> 04:52:32,080
I don't know what they're waiting for on Twitch,

5433
04:52:32,080 --> 04:52:33,520
or maybe they really just don't give a fuck

5434
04:52:33,520 --> 04:52:34,840
about what happens on that platform

5435
04:52:34,840 --> 04:52:35,680
in terms of profitability.

5436
04:52:35,680 --> 04:52:37,800
- Dan Sullivan, do your thing.

5437
04:52:37,800 --> 04:52:38,800
- Shah.

5438
04:52:38,800 --> 04:52:39,640
- I tried.

5439
04:52:39,640 --> 04:52:40,480
- And my children?

5440
04:52:40,480 --> 04:52:41,320
- In Anhade.

5441
04:52:41,320 --> 04:52:42,160
- To be able to raise our kids.

5442
04:52:42,160 --> 04:52:45,360
(speaking in foreign language)

5443
04:52:45,360 --> 04:52:46,940
- I thought you said you weren't raised.

5444
04:52:46,940 --> 04:52:48,760
(speaking in foreign language)

5445
04:52:48,760 --> 04:52:51,560
- Uh-oh, uh-oh, to make an hour away.

5446
04:52:51,560 --> 04:52:53,200
Oh, there's no hour at all.

5447
04:52:53,200 --> 04:52:54,440
You are going back.

5448
04:52:54,440 --> 04:52:56,040
And again, if it was up to me,

5449
04:52:56,040 --> 04:52:57,080
every single one of these people,

5450
04:52:57,080 --> 04:52:58,320
like any of these terrorist supporters,

5451
04:52:58,320 --> 04:52:59,840
any of these net negative taxpayers,

5452
04:52:59,840 --> 04:53:01,560
any of these fucking, like, clearly,

5453
04:53:01,560 --> 04:53:02,480
these are not Americans.

5454
04:53:02,480 --> 04:53:03,600
These people are not Americans.

5455
04:53:03,600 --> 04:53:04,760
They don't identify as Americans.

5456
04:53:04,760 --> 04:53:05,960
They don't even speak English.

5457
04:53:05,960 --> 04:53:07,520
Like, they should not even be in our country.

5458
04:53:07,520 --> 04:53:09,680
And I'm so glad to see more people just admitting that.

5459
04:53:09,680 --> 04:53:11,200
Like, net negative taxpayer?

5460
04:53:11,200 --> 04:53:13,080
Well, they went, this is our qualification.

5461
04:53:13,080 --> 04:53:15,480
- Like, like, what sales tax is not being paid,

5462
04:53:15,480 --> 04:53:16,440
or anything?

5463
04:53:16,440 --> 04:53:17,280
Like, what the fuck?

5464
04:53:17,280 --> 04:53:18,120
Like, dude.

5465
04:53:18,120 --> 04:53:18,960
- Still, oh my God.

5466
04:53:18,960 --> 04:53:20,600
- Admitting that, and simply accepting it.

5467
04:53:20,600 --> 04:53:21,440
Telling it out, it is.

5468
04:53:21,440 --> 04:53:22,280
Oh, here we go.

5469
04:53:22,280 --> 04:53:25,000
Omar, how about you, Omar?

5470
04:53:25,000 --> 04:53:26,400
She comes from Somalia.

5471
04:53:28,000 --> 04:53:29,520
- Boo.

5472
04:53:29,520 --> 04:53:31,320
- She comes from Somalia.

5473
04:53:31,320 --> 04:53:32,320
They don't have a government.

5474
04:53:32,320 --> 04:53:33,160
They don't have police.

5475
04:53:33,160 --> 04:53:34,600
They don't, all they have is crime and squatter.

5476
04:53:34,600 --> 04:53:35,440
- People run around shooting.

5477
04:53:35,440 --> 04:53:36,440
- She comes into our country,

5478
04:53:36,440 --> 04:53:38,720
and she says, "My constitution allows me."

5479
04:53:38,720 --> 04:53:40,520
She's talking about our constitution.

5480
04:53:40,520 --> 04:53:41,560
What they've done to Minnesota,

5481
04:53:41,560 --> 04:53:42,600
these people from Somalia,

5482
04:53:42,600 --> 04:53:43,840
what they've done to Minnesota,

5483
04:53:43,840 --> 04:53:45,520
she'd never be allowed to see what happens.

5484
04:53:45,520 --> 04:53:46,880
JD Vance, our people.

5485
04:53:46,880 --> 04:53:48,680
- We'll see what happens.

5486
04:53:48,680 --> 04:53:49,600
Well, it's finally happening.

5487
04:53:49,600 --> 04:53:50,840
- Looking at it very strongly.

5488
04:53:50,840 --> 04:53:54,640
He's getting out the knee pass, he's ready, he's broke.

5489
04:53:54,640 --> 04:53:55,480
- Just in a portion.

5490
04:53:55,480 --> 04:53:56,560
- He's stuck Trump's car.

5491
04:53:56,560 --> 04:53:59,440
- Reporting even, one illegal alien, even murderers,

5492
04:53:59,440 --> 04:54:00,280
they should stay here.

5493
04:54:00,280 --> 04:54:01,440
This guy that he's running against is the worst.

5494
04:54:01,440 --> 04:54:03,040
We're not going to that communist rep.

5495
04:54:03,040 --> 04:54:06,680
We are not going to allow communists to take over Tennessee.

5496
04:54:06,680 --> 04:54:08,280
- Exactly, marrying her brother won't denaturalize her.

5497
04:54:08,280 --> 04:54:09,120
They need to find documents

5498
04:54:09,120 --> 04:54:10,360
that she lied about her birthday that would.

5499
04:54:10,360 --> 04:54:12,040
Well, you just changed the law.

5500
04:54:12,040 --> 04:54:14,160
And also, if they ship her back over there,

5501
04:54:14,160 --> 04:54:15,360
I mean, it's all like you can let her back in.

5502
04:54:15,360 --> 04:54:16,200
Just take it away.

5503
04:54:16,200 --> 04:54:17,600
Like, this is what a lot of people don't understand

5504
04:54:17,600 --> 04:54:19,200
is that you don't have to follow the rules.

5505
04:54:19,200 --> 04:54:21,280
- If you look, oh my God.

5506
04:54:21,280 --> 04:54:22,400
What is Asmigal talking about?

5507
04:54:22,400 --> 04:54:23,720
Who's my melded with me?

5508
04:54:23,720 --> 04:54:24,920
What did Asmigal just say?

5509
04:54:31,240 --> 04:54:32,400
- What did he just say?

5510
04:54:37,160 --> 04:54:39,560
- He just gave, I actually don't know this

5511
04:54:39,560 --> 04:54:40,680
because people get mad at me

5512
04:54:40,680 --> 04:54:42,240
because I misquote this, whatever.

5513
04:54:42,240 --> 04:54:45,200
Didn't he just do the green lantern theory or whatever,

5514
04:54:45,200 --> 04:54:46,800
of politics that hutch hates so much?

5515
04:54:46,800 --> 04:54:48,360
Isn't that what he calls it?

5516
04:54:48,360 --> 04:54:50,680
Where he's like, actually, you can do anything you want.

5517
04:54:50,680 --> 04:54:52,040
- I guess so, yeah.

5518
04:54:52,040 --> 04:54:53,800
- Yeah, that's what Asmigal just said.

5519
04:54:53,800 --> 04:54:54,960
Yeah, you can do whatever the fuck you want.

5520
04:54:54,960 --> 04:54:56,040
Who cares, it's all memes.

5521
04:54:56,040 --> 04:54:58,200
You can just do whatever the fuck.

5522
04:54:58,200 --> 04:55:00,200
- I mean, of course, I see, I mean Trump.

5523
04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:03,460
is kind of doing that. I mean, a little, oh, like fucking shit.

5524
04:55:03,460 --> 04:55:04,300
- Kind of, yeah.

5525
04:55:04,300 --> 04:55:07,420
- The migrants off to El Salvador, but planes, yeah.

5526
04:55:07,420 --> 04:55:09,120
- You control the administrative machine.

5527
04:55:09,120 --> 04:55:11,780
And if you control what the enforcement mechanism is,

5528
04:55:11,780 --> 04:55:13,300
you don't actually have to follow the rules.

5529
04:55:13,300 --> 04:55:14,500
- No. - You just do whatever you want.

5530
04:55:14,500 --> 04:55:15,580
They won't though, I know they won't,

5531
04:55:15,580 --> 04:55:16,860
but I'm saying that it's possible.

5532
04:55:16,860 --> 04:55:19,100
It's absolutely possible to just send her back.

5533
04:55:19,100 --> 04:55:20,180
- They care. - That's it.

5534
04:55:20,180 --> 04:55:21,380
I tried to subpoena Ilana Omar

5535
04:55:21,380 --> 04:55:23,340
and her brother husband's immigration records,

5536
04:55:23,340 --> 04:55:24,820
both parties blocked it in oversight.

5537
04:55:24,820 --> 04:55:26,260
This morning, HSI raided her home

5538
04:55:26,260 --> 04:55:27,660
with a judicially authorized warrant,

5539
04:55:27,660 --> 04:55:29,180
presumably over the same paperwork.

5540
04:55:29,180 --> 04:55:31,020
If the fraud is proven, she should be denaturalized

5541
04:55:31,020 --> 04:55:32,980
and deported home to Somalia.

5542
04:55:32,980 --> 04:55:34,060
Exactly, there you go.

5543
04:55:35,140 --> 04:55:36,980
Nancy, you went from presumably to deport her?

5544
04:55:36,980 --> 04:55:39,020
That's because the goal was to get her out of the country.

5545
04:55:39,020 --> 04:55:40,620
I don't really care how it happens.

5546
04:55:40,620 --> 04:55:41,980
They could say she has an unpaid parking ticket.

5547
04:55:41,980 --> 04:55:43,540
I would say the solution is to deport her.

5548
04:55:43,540 --> 04:55:44,700
I don't care. - Jesus.

5549
04:55:44,700 --> 04:55:46,020
- It doesn't matter what the method is.

5550
04:55:46,020 --> 04:55:48,260
The goal is getting her and people like her

5551
04:55:48,260 --> 04:55:51,300
out of America, every single one as many as possible.

5552
04:55:51,300 --> 04:55:52,500
That's what matters.

5553
04:55:52,500 --> 04:55:55,780
The methodology and the way that you do it, that's noise.

5554
04:55:55,780 --> 04:55:56,620
I don't care about that.

5555
04:55:56,620 --> 04:55:57,940
Nobody cares about that.

5556
04:55:57,940 --> 04:55:59,100
- Oh, my God. - As agents,

5557
04:55:59,100 --> 04:56:00,220
giving us some sort of immigration--

5558
04:56:00,220 --> 04:56:01,060
- Good heaven.

5559
04:56:01,060 --> 04:56:02,420
- As far as this case is involved,

5560
04:56:02,420 --> 04:56:04,540
though we are told this is a criminal investigation.

5561
04:56:04,540 --> 04:56:06,500
We don't know the specifics, but a Justice Department

5562
04:56:06,500 --> 04:56:08,540
spokesperson did tell us this on the record, quote,

5563
04:56:08,540 --> 04:56:10,140
"Today, in the Washington, D.C. area,

5564
04:56:10,140 --> 04:56:11,340
Homeland Security Investigations,

5565
04:56:11,340 --> 04:56:13,540
executed a judicially authorized search warrant

5566
04:56:13,540 --> 04:56:14,820
secured by the Department of Justice.

5567
04:56:14,820 --> 04:56:16,380
This enforcement action is part of an ongoing

5568
04:56:16,380 --> 04:56:18,420
federal criminal investigation," end quote.

5569
04:56:18,420 --> 04:56:20,300
No comment at this point from a Congresswoman Omar.

5570
04:56:20,300 --> 04:56:21,380
We've reached out to her office.

5571
04:56:21,380 --> 04:56:22,500
No statements on social media.

5572
04:56:22,500 --> 04:56:24,300
Again, this began a little bit after six o'clock

5573
04:56:24,300 --> 04:56:25,140
this morning here, John.

5574
04:56:25,140 --> 04:56:26,620
We've seen agents leave with boxes.

5575
04:56:26,620 --> 04:56:28,700
There's not appear to be any sort of intense raid.

5576
04:56:28,700 --> 04:56:29,860
I mean, I know we use the word raid,

5577
04:56:29,860 --> 04:56:30,980
but no one knocking down doors.

5578
04:56:30,980 --> 04:56:32,900
No one running in with flashlights or any type of weapons.

5579
04:56:32,900 --> 04:56:34,140
- They don't do that unless they have to.

5580
04:56:34,140 --> 04:56:34,980
Like, they don't do that.

5581
04:56:34,980 --> 04:56:36,860
It's not like that happens.

5582
04:56:36,860 --> 04:56:38,940
Like, it's been fairly quiet here on this block

5583
04:56:38,940 --> 04:56:40,020
on Columbus Day, a couple of neighbors

5584
04:56:40,020 --> 04:56:41,540
mulling around asking what's going on,

5585
04:56:41,540 --> 04:56:44,100
but clearly we now know that Congresswoman Omar,

5586
04:56:44,100 --> 04:56:45,260
and I will know, it's unusual to see

5587
04:56:45,260 --> 04:56:47,100
the Justice Department taken overt action

5588
04:56:47,100 --> 04:56:48,380
three weeks before an election.

5589
04:56:48,380 --> 04:56:49,780
- Three weeks before the elections.

5590
04:56:49,780 --> 04:56:50,940
- Yeah, normally I'm supposed to do that.

5591
04:56:50,940 --> 04:56:52,620
- This is the type, by the way.

5592
04:56:52,620 --> 04:56:53,540
Sneaker was coping the entire day,

5593
04:56:53,540 --> 04:56:55,220
saying her investigating her because she's a Muslim.

5594
04:56:55,220 --> 04:56:56,300
I mean, again, call it whatever you want.

5595
04:56:56,300 --> 04:56:57,140
I still want her deported.

5596
04:56:57,140 --> 04:56:58,900
I mean, it doesn't really, to me, it doesn't matter.

5597
04:56:58,900 --> 04:57:00,460
Like, what matters is that people like her

5598
04:57:00,460 --> 04:57:01,340
are not in the country.

5599
04:57:01,340 --> 04:57:03,700
Whatever achieves that goal is what I'm supporting.

5600
04:57:03,700 --> 04:57:04,740
Like, I don't care what the goal is.

5601
04:57:04,740 --> 04:57:05,700
I don't care how you do it.

5602
04:57:05,700 --> 04:57:06,780
I don't care what law you use,

5603
04:57:06,780 --> 04:57:08,180
if you invent a new law or something.

5604
04:57:08,180 --> 04:57:09,020
I just don't want them here.

5605
04:57:09,020 --> 04:57:09,860
I don't want them here.

5606
04:57:09,860 --> 04:57:10,860
I think most people don't want them here.

5607
04:57:10,860 --> 04:57:12,580
And really, I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong

5608
04:57:12,580 --> 04:57:13,420
with thinking that.

5609
04:57:13,420 --> 04:57:14,260
I don't know why that's a bad thing.

5610
04:57:14,260 --> 04:57:15,100
I think it's a good thing.

5611
04:57:15,100 --> 04:57:16,340
- Jesus Christ.

5612
04:57:16,340 --> 04:57:18,300
- Federal agents, oh, this is an interview.

5613
04:57:18,300 --> 04:57:26,220
- That seems to be a lot of police activity here.

5614
04:57:26,220 --> 04:57:27,420
- Yes, I just want to know what's going on.

5615
04:57:27,420 --> 04:57:29,060
- Okay, I'd like to know what's going on.

5616
04:57:29,060 --> 04:57:31,860
- Yeah, but this is, what does HSI stand for?

5617
04:57:31,860 --> 04:57:33,100
- Almost here.

5618
04:57:33,100 --> 04:57:35,900
- So is this a raid, like an illegal immigration raid?

5619
04:57:35,900 --> 04:57:38,860
- No, it's not, but I've just told you, it's police activity.

5620
04:57:38,860 --> 04:57:39,700
- Yes.

5621
04:57:39,700 --> 04:57:40,540
- I've asked you a three time,

5622
04:57:40,540 --> 04:57:41,740
I'd appreciate if you bring the camera now, I can't stop.

5623
04:57:41,740 --> 04:57:43,740
- Are you, there's a congresswoman who rents

5624
04:57:43,740 --> 04:57:44,980
or lives a house, her name's Ilhan,

5625
04:57:44,980 --> 04:57:46,260
old congresswoman Ilhan Omar.

5626
04:57:46,260 --> 04:57:47,620
Are you, are you guys raiding her house?

5627
04:57:47,620 --> 04:57:48,620
- I'm not going to discuss anything.

5628
04:57:48,620 --> 04:57:50,420
- Okay, all right, thanks sir, all right.

5629
04:57:50,420 --> 04:57:51,260
- All right, you have a good day.

5630
04:57:51,260 --> 04:57:53,300
- Uh-huh, yeah, there it is, yeah, because it's happening.

5631
04:57:53,300 --> 04:57:55,420
That's why, police, yeah, it's police activity, guys.

5632
04:57:55,420 --> 04:57:56,780
Important to note, the raid on Ilhan Omar

5633
04:57:56,780 --> 04:57:58,980
was not something that DOJ or DHS just did alone.

5634
04:57:58,980 --> 04:58:00,700
A federal judge signed off on the warrant.

5635
04:58:00,700 --> 04:58:02,100
I know, and that's a really big deal.

5636
04:58:02,100 --> 04:58:03,500
Important note, a federal judge also signed off

5637
04:58:03,500 --> 04:58:05,460
in a search warrant to Trump's Mar-a-Lago, was that big?

5638
04:58:05,460 --> 04:58:07,620
Yeah, it was, and they almost put him in jail.

5639
04:58:07,620 --> 04:58:09,060
I think that there was a very high probability

5640
04:58:09,060 --> 04:58:10,300
that if Trump didn't win the election,

5641
04:58:10,300 --> 04:58:11,140
they would have put him in jail.

5642
04:58:11,140 --> 04:58:12,220
- Thank God.

5643
04:58:12,220 --> 04:58:19,220
- So yeah, that was a really big deal, I don't know why you'd even say that, as if it wasn't, it was massive, that was gigantic, like what do you mean, not only a judge? Oh, here we go.

5644
04:58:19,220 --> 04:58:28,220
- The last time the Alien Enemies Act was invoked, it was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants, doing World War 11.

5645
04:58:28,220 --> 04:58:32,220
One of the most shameful chapters of the American history.

5646
04:58:32,220 --> 04:58:38,220
- Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, we're 11, no, it's over.

5647
04:58:38,220 --> 04:58:41,220
- He's a time traveler for the future.

5648
04:58:41,220 --> 04:58:44,220
- No way, you understand, wait, you know what happened, right?

5649
04:58:44,220 --> 04:58:46,220
- Yeah, though, I am.

5650
04:58:46,220 --> 04:58:49,220
- Yeah, they read it as 11, oh no.

5651
04:58:49,220 --> 04:58:51,220
- Oh my God, oh, thank God.

5652
04:58:51,220 --> 04:58:53,220
- I think they all got to go.

5653
04:58:53,220 --> 04:58:56,220
I don't want to hear about how our history is shameful from a foreigner.

5654
04:58:56,220 --> 04:58:59,220
I don't want to hear these people complaining about our history.

5655
04:58:59,220 --> 04:59:01,220
I don't want to hear these people critiquing what we did.

5656
04:59:01,220 --> 04:59:06,220
I don't want them in my country, and I'm going to support, as I said before, any politician that will just get rid of them.

5657
04:59:06,220 --> 04:59:10,220
I don't care what the methodology is, I would prefer if it was non-violent, I don't think it should be violent,

5658
04:59:10,220 --> 04:59:12,220
but I just want them out.

5659
04:59:12,220 --> 04:59:14,220
I want them out, I want them all out.

5660
04:59:14,220 --> 04:59:15,220
That's it.

5661
04:59:15,220 --> 04:59:16,220
- Is this a world of war?

5662
04:59:16,220 --> 04:59:18,220
- I mean, listen, I've made a million reading errors, right?

5663
04:59:18,220 --> 04:59:19,220
It's more beyond that.

5664
04:59:19,220 --> 04:59:20,220
- Oh, this is Tom Holman, oh boy.

5665
04:59:20,220 --> 04:59:22,220
- There's another issue, not directly related to this,

5666
04:59:22,220 --> 04:59:25,220
but federal agents raided Congresswoman Ilhan Omar's home in Washington, D.C.

5667
04:59:25,220 --> 04:59:28,220
She was reportedly being investigated over her immigration paperwork.

5668
04:59:28,220 --> 04:59:30,220
Can you tell us anything about this raid?

5669
04:59:30,220 --> 04:59:31,220
- Uh-huh.

5670
04:59:31,220 --> 04:59:33,220
- Do I confirm that, uh-

5671
04:59:33,220 --> 04:59:35,220
- Oh, fuck, it's a Holman still there.

5672
04:59:35,220 --> 04:59:37,220
This guy survived so many fucking firings, everything.

5673
04:59:37,220 --> 04:59:38,220
Holy shit.

5674
04:59:38,220 --> 04:59:39,220
Damn.

5675
04:59:39,220 --> 04:59:41,220
- A search warrant was actually disowned.

5676
04:59:41,220 --> 04:59:43,220
Signed by a judge, Department of Justice has deleted the investigation.

5677
04:59:43,220 --> 04:59:45,220
- Well, dude, Asmigol's eyebrows?

5678
04:59:45,220 --> 04:59:48,220
Asmigol's eyebrows give more commentary than he does, dude.

5679
04:59:48,220 --> 04:59:51,220
Like, it's literally speaking in Morse code.

5680
04:59:51,220 --> 04:59:52,220
- Well?

5681
04:59:52,220 --> 04:59:53,220
- Like, it's crazy.

5682
04:59:53,220 --> 04:59:54,220
- He loves it, how do you want him to say it?

5683
04:59:54,220 --> 04:59:55,220
- Department of Homeland Security.

5684
04:59:55,220 --> 04:59:56,220
- Yeah.

5685
04:59:56,220 --> 04:59:57,220
- So, there is an investigation.

5686
04:59:57,220 --> 04:59:58,220
I want one third.

5687
04:59:58,220 --> 04:59:59,220
I won't get into the specifics.

5688
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:01,900
I don't want to get ahead of top branch on that.

5689
05:00:01,900 --> 05:00:03,900
Does that be a question of top branch, but I want what sort today.

5690
05:00:03,900 --> 05:00:04,400
All right.

5691
05:00:04,400 --> 05:00:05,680
And finally, I just have--

5692
05:00:05,680 --> 05:00:06,340
Man.

5693
05:00:06,340 --> 05:00:08,520
So anyway, I'm so glad about this, right?

5694
05:00:08,520 --> 05:00:09,500
Thanks, fucking, God.

5695
05:00:09,500 --> 05:00:10,480
And there's one more.

5696
05:00:10,480 --> 05:00:12,400
Then we're going to look at-- there's another thing they're doing, too.

5697
05:00:12,400 --> 05:00:12,900
OK.

5698
05:00:12,900 --> 05:00:14,000
Well, what's going to happen?

5699
05:00:14,000 --> 05:00:15,500
Is it OK?

5700
05:00:15,500 --> 05:00:17,360
Something's going to happen.

5701
05:00:17,360 --> 05:00:18,280
Something's going to happen.

5702
05:00:18,280 --> 05:00:20,080
And this is ongoing investigation.

5703
05:00:20,080 --> 05:00:22,800
We know that she married her brother

5704
05:00:22,800 --> 05:00:24,000
to try to bring him to the United States.

5705
05:00:24,000 --> 05:00:25,640
We know he was down London.

5706
05:00:25,640 --> 05:00:28,800
This is the guy who was in the ultra-super-duper top-secret

5707
05:00:28,800 --> 05:00:31,260
thing that was so top-secret, he didn't know what the fuck it was

5708
05:00:31,260 --> 05:00:32,320
and couldn't sign any of the Congress,

5709
05:00:32,320 --> 05:00:34,000
because he made it all up to the sound call, by the way.

5710
05:00:34,000 --> 05:00:36,240
We feel that this may be any other-- there's even

5711
05:00:36,240 --> 05:00:39,720
may-- there may be more, too, this whole family migration

5712
05:00:39,720 --> 05:00:41,640
impostives some illegal activity for them to come to the United

5713
05:00:41,640 --> 05:00:42,240
States begin with.

5714
05:00:42,240 --> 05:00:43,240
But all of us are invested.

5715
05:00:43,240 --> 05:00:43,720
We're invested.

5716
05:00:43,720 --> 05:00:45,120
And here's what I want to make sure is,

5717
05:00:45,120 --> 05:00:47,600
if we actually move the case forward, it's not a political case.

5718
05:00:47,600 --> 05:00:48,800
It's a natural case.

5719
05:00:48,800 --> 05:00:50,120
I don't know why they're not talking.

5720
05:00:50,120 --> 05:00:52,480
The problem is, I mean, culturally, we're not there yet,

5721
05:00:52,480 --> 05:00:54,520
but I want it to be political.

5722
05:00:54,520 --> 05:00:55,000
I do.

5723
05:00:55,000 --> 05:00:56,680
I think that you should do whatever you need to do.

5724
05:00:56,680 --> 05:00:57,160
It doesn't matter.

5725
05:00:57,160 --> 05:00:58,840
Like, you could say, oh, well, it's not politics.

5726
05:00:58,840 --> 05:00:59,560
It's something else.

5727
05:00:59,560 --> 05:01:00,040
Who cares?

5728
05:01:00,040 --> 05:01:01,160
If it's politics, that's fine.

5729
05:01:01,160 --> 05:01:03,160
Whatever gets the job done, whatever

5730
05:01:03,160 --> 05:01:06,920
it gets us over the finish line, do anything that it takes.

5731
05:01:06,920 --> 05:01:08,280
Because they did things wrong.

5732
05:01:08,280 --> 05:01:10,320
If you decided to break the law, why on your--

5733
05:01:10,320 --> 05:01:11,920
you're getting the United States, the belt

5734
05:01:11,920 --> 05:01:13,560
to come into the United States, either asylum

5735
05:01:13,560 --> 05:01:15,280
or because you just want to see it better by--

5736
05:01:15,280 --> 05:01:16,480
It's all political, we all know it.

5737
05:01:16,480 --> 05:01:18,280
They obviously are doing this to her because of politics,

5738
05:01:18,280 --> 05:01:18,440
right?

5739
05:01:18,440 --> 05:01:20,200
I mean, a Democratic government would never do this to her.

5740
05:01:20,200 --> 05:01:20,640
So I get to--

5741
05:01:20,640 --> 05:01:23,360
Just try it better, just harder.

5742
05:01:23,360 --> 05:01:25,080
But Hassan said that he doesn't need to.

5743
05:01:25,080 --> 05:01:27,040
What do you mean, these guys are openly fucking--

5744
05:01:27,040 --> 05:01:30,000
That's why I say the new era of conspiracy theories

5745
05:01:30,000 --> 05:01:31,800
and everything is so boring because you imagine

5746
05:01:31,800 --> 05:01:32,800
you have to go dig for shit.

5747
05:01:32,800 --> 05:01:33,280
But not really.

5748
05:01:33,280 --> 05:01:34,080
It's all just open.

5749
05:01:34,080 --> 05:01:36,160
They're so, so, so open about everything they do these days.

5750
05:01:36,160 --> 05:01:37,280
They just are totally out in the open.

5751
05:01:37,280 --> 05:01:39,400
Then I'll give a fuck about it.

5752
05:01:39,400 --> 05:01:39,760
Cool.

5753
05:01:39,760 --> 05:01:40,640
Just embrace it.

5754
05:01:40,640 --> 05:01:41,320
Just embrace, yes.

5755
05:01:41,320 --> 05:01:43,960
We are going to weaponize every vehicle, every tool,

5756
05:01:43,960 --> 05:01:47,960
every vector, every governmental apparatus that exists.

5757
05:01:47,960 --> 05:01:49,200
And we are going to weaponize them

5758
05:01:49,200 --> 05:01:50,520
and attack you with it relentlessly.

5759
05:01:50,520 --> 05:01:51,800
That's what I want to see them do.

5760
05:01:51,800 --> 05:01:54,800
And then we're going to invent new ones to do it even worse.

5761
05:01:54,800 --> 05:01:56,880
It's like about certain things about your application.

5762
05:01:56,880 --> 05:01:58,920
Those things, there's no expiration today.

5763
05:01:58,920 --> 05:02:01,680
If we can prove it that you should have been in the first place,

5764
05:02:01,680 --> 05:02:02,520
we'll deport you.

5765
05:02:02,520 --> 05:02:04,720
And so we're looking at-- it's more than just her case.

5766
05:02:04,720 --> 05:02:07,120
We're looking at a lot of cases that are very similar to this

5767
05:02:07,120 --> 05:02:09,640
that we feel like there may have been fraud from the victim.

5768
05:02:09,640 --> 05:02:11,640
But when we move forward, it's not political.

5769
05:02:11,640 --> 05:02:13,360
It's because you chose to break the nation's laws.

5770
05:02:13,360 --> 05:02:15,520
I've said this multiple times, and I can't even say it.

5771
05:02:15,520 --> 05:02:17,000
I don't make the laws anymore.

5772
05:02:17,000 --> 05:02:18,240
I'm in charge of enforcing laws.

5773
05:02:18,240 --> 05:02:20,320
And I will not pick and choose which laws I'm going to enforce

5774
05:02:20,320 --> 05:02:20,880
and which laws I'm not.

5775
05:02:20,880 --> 05:02:21,960
I'm going to force all of you.

5776
05:02:21,960 --> 05:02:25,960
Regardless, if you're Omar, or you're some other individual

5777
05:02:25,960 --> 05:02:28,680
in that community, you're going to enforce it equally.

5778
05:02:28,680 --> 05:02:29,720
No, I think it's good.

5779
05:02:29,720 --> 05:02:30,800
After you go and migrate to the US,

5780
05:02:30,800 --> 05:02:33,000
incestuous to marry your brother, and then become a sitting

5781
05:02:33,000 --> 05:02:35,480
congresswoman, well, it's actually really simple.

5782
05:02:35,480 --> 05:02:37,960
You have a bunch of people who are in ethnic solidarity voting

5783
05:02:37,960 --> 05:02:38,680
for you.

5784
05:02:38,680 --> 05:02:39,440
Oh, my God.

5785
05:02:39,440 --> 05:02:39,960
Oh, my God.

5786
05:02:39,960 --> 05:02:40,720
That's how she won.

5787
05:02:40,720 --> 05:02:43,880
L.A. Omar was all the fucking Somalis came together--

5788
05:02:43,880 --> 05:02:44,600
character could do it.

5789
05:02:44,600 --> 05:02:46,440
Dude, they do, all the time in the South.

5790
05:02:46,440 --> 05:02:47,760
Oh, my God, they fuck off.

5791
05:02:47,760 --> 05:02:48,920
Like, I mean, that's really what it is.

5792
05:02:48,920 --> 05:02:50,880
This is another post about L.A. Omar.

5793
05:02:50,880 --> 05:02:52,240
You're going to watch this one first.

5794
05:02:52,240 --> 05:02:53,920
So some breaking news coming in as we speak.

5795
05:02:53,920 --> 05:02:56,400
Learning that federal officers have conducted a search

5796
05:02:56,400 --> 05:02:58,560
and did so early today at the home of Democratic Congress

5797
05:02:58,560 --> 05:03:00,480
when Elon Omar, seen as Caitlin Polance,

5798
05:03:00,480 --> 05:03:02,680
is gathering the details on this for us and joins us now.

5799
05:03:02,680 --> 05:03:04,440
Caitlin, what are you learning?

5800
05:03:04,440 --> 05:03:05,840
Cait, we're learning bits and pieces

5801
05:03:05,840 --> 05:03:07,920
of what's happening here, but there is a search that was going

5802
05:03:07,920 --> 05:03:09,880
on this morning, or is going on still,

5803
05:03:09,880 --> 05:03:12,600
at the home of Ilhan Omar, the Democratic representative

5804
05:03:12,600 --> 05:03:15,520
from Minnesota, who is also running for Congress

5805
05:03:15,520 --> 05:03:17,400
in the middle of this election season.

5806
05:03:17,400 --> 05:03:19,560
This would be her DC area home.

5807
05:03:19,560 --> 05:03:21,720
And the confirmation we've gotten of this is from--

5808
05:03:21,720 --> 05:03:23,360
I like how the people on Fox News

5809
05:03:23,360 --> 05:03:24,800
look like literal fucking Ilhan's,

5810
05:03:24,800 --> 05:03:26,600
but he's watching CNN, so he has to make some comments.

5811
05:03:26,600 --> 05:03:28,240
Wow, look at those glasses, right?

5812
05:03:28,240 --> 05:03:29,440
Oh, my God.

5813
05:03:29,440 --> 05:03:30,040
Justice Department.

5814
05:03:30,040 --> 05:03:32,480
Do you have the same fucking blondie, fucking cloned

5815
05:03:32,480 --> 05:03:34,880
that in the next fucking room?

5816
05:03:34,880 --> 05:03:36,480
Yeah, that looks like an actual fucking Ilhan.

5817
05:03:36,480 --> 05:03:38,960
It's self, then, saying that the Justice Department secured

5818
05:03:38,960 --> 05:03:40,640
a court-authorized search warrant,

5819
05:03:40,640 --> 05:03:42,720
and that Homeland Security investigators

5820
05:03:42,720 --> 05:03:44,760
would be the agency that is conducting this search

5821
05:03:44,760 --> 05:03:45,640
this morning.

5822
05:03:45,640 --> 05:03:47,680
We don't have much more indication on exactly what this is,

5823
05:03:47,680 --> 05:03:51,400
but it appears to be some level of an immigration investigation

5824
05:03:51,400 --> 05:03:53,160
given that it's Homeland Security doing this,

5825
05:03:53,160 --> 05:03:54,880
and also some of the statements that are coming out

5826
05:03:54,880 --> 05:03:56,240
out of the right process, specifically

5827
05:03:56,240 --> 05:03:58,040
by White House Boarders, Tom Hohman.

5828
05:03:58,040 --> 05:03:59,040
Here he is.

5829
05:03:59,040 --> 05:04:00,040
Lasted.

5830
05:04:00,040 --> 05:04:01,040
Lasted, uh-huh.

5831
05:04:01,040 --> 05:04:02,040
President of Ilhan Omar.

5832
05:04:02,040 --> 05:04:03,360
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

5833
05:04:03,360 --> 05:04:04,960
Well, I'm not going to get ahead of Todd Blanche

5834
05:04:04,960 --> 05:04:06,120
on this for Secretary Mullen, but we know

5835
05:04:06,120 --> 05:04:07,640
his investigation was ongoing for a while.

5836
05:04:07,640 --> 05:04:09,440
There wasn't warrant executed this morning.

5837
05:04:09,440 --> 05:04:11,480
And so I'll leave it at that specific investigation.

5838
05:04:11,480 --> 05:04:13,200
I think I need to turn that over to Todd Blanche

5839
05:04:13,200 --> 05:04:14,040
or Mark Wayne Mullen.

5840
05:04:14,040 --> 05:04:15,600
I don't want to get ahead of them on commenting

5841
05:04:15,600 --> 05:04:18,320
on ongoing investigation.

5842
05:04:18,320 --> 05:04:20,040
Now, there have been allegations from Republicans

5843
05:04:20,040 --> 05:04:23,360
and including from Hohman, the White House Boarders,

5844
05:04:23,360 --> 05:04:26,320
are that there could be some level of immigration fraud.

5845
05:04:26,320 --> 05:04:28,000
We don't have any of that substantiated this time.

5846
05:04:28,000 --> 05:04:29,240
It could be, maybe, possibly.

5847
05:04:29,240 --> 05:04:31,880
Other enforcement actions against Representative Omar.

5848
05:04:31,880 --> 05:04:32,320
Yeah.

5849
05:04:32,320 --> 05:04:33,800
So this is an ongoing situation, and we're

5850
05:04:33,800 --> 05:04:35,240
still seeing exactly what would come,

5851
05:04:35,240 --> 05:04:36,240
but it is quite notable.

5852
05:04:36,240 --> 05:04:37,240
It's in the middle of an election season.

5853
05:04:37,240 --> 05:04:38,480
And this is a city member of Congress--

5854
05:04:38,480 --> 05:04:38,480
Kind of weird.

5855
05:04:38,480 --> 05:04:39,480
--going to be an election.

5856
05:04:39,480 --> 05:04:40,240
I don't like that.

5857
05:04:40,240 --> 05:04:40,720
That's right.

5858
05:04:40,720 --> 05:04:43,080
Caitlin, because it means a rise to an election.

5859
05:04:43,080 --> 05:04:45,520
Generally speaking, we've seen this discussed in very much

5860
05:04:45,520 --> 05:04:47,800
highlighted in terms of past investigations

5861
05:04:47,800 --> 05:04:51,000
and what does or should happen within a certain number

5862
05:04:51,000 --> 05:04:51,760
of days of an election.

5863
05:04:51,760 --> 05:04:52,160
What does it just--

5864
05:04:52,160 --> 05:04:53,920
What should happen is that her and everybody

5865
05:04:53,920 --> 05:04:56,520
that acts like her and treats America like an economic zone

5866
05:04:56,520 --> 05:04:58,280
that they exploit for their own racial games

5867
05:04:58,280 --> 05:05:01,000
should be deported and removed from the country.

5868
05:05:00,000 --> 05:05:00,820
- That's what she happened.

5869
05:05:00,820 --> 05:05:02,520
- Wow, say it one more time.

5870
05:05:02,520 --> 05:05:03,920
- It's actually really simple.

5871
05:05:03,920 --> 05:05:05,520
- I've been saying about this.

5872
05:05:05,520 --> 05:05:07,160
- And any of their collaborators in America,

5873
05:05:07,160 --> 05:05:09,040
to the extent that they are government employees

5874
05:05:09,040 --> 05:05:10,800
and they allowed funds and resources

5875
05:05:10,800 --> 05:05:12,080
to be redirected to Somalia,

5876
05:05:12,080 --> 05:05:13,560
I think they should be tried for capital funds

5877
05:05:13,560 --> 05:05:14,840
that were chosen. - Oh my God, what the fuck.

5878
05:05:14,840 --> 05:05:15,660
- Now why is that? - Is he not?

5879
05:05:15,660 --> 05:05:17,320
- It's because Somalia.

5880
05:05:17,320 --> 05:05:18,160
And the money that's being,

5881
05:05:18,160 --> 05:05:20,600
- He's like fucking, Somalia is like fucking Israel

5882
05:05:20,600 --> 05:05:23,760
for him from the left, Jesus Christ.

5883
05:05:23,760 --> 05:05:25,920
- Sent over there is going to terrorist organizations.

5884
05:05:25,920 --> 05:05:27,240
- So they, but yeah, I mean, you can't even get mad

5885
05:05:27,240 --> 05:05:28,400
for him because it's like, you know,

5886
05:05:28,400 --> 05:05:30,000
I was gonna go talk about executing,

5887
05:05:30,000 --> 05:05:31,800
sitting US politicians, that's kind of crazy, right?

5888
05:05:31,800 --> 05:05:33,160
But then again, Donald Trump says the same shit.

5889
05:05:33,160 --> 05:05:36,120
So hmm, unknowingly and willingly sent money

5890
05:05:36,120 --> 05:05:38,480
to terrorist organizations as a government official.

5891
05:05:38,480 --> 05:05:39,720
If you allow that to happen,

5892
05:05:39,720 --> 05:05:42,600
I think that you need to be at least up there for trial.

5893
05:05:42,600 --> 05:05:43,760
That's all I'm saying.

5894
05:05:43,760 --> 05:05:45,200
That's what I would do.

5895
05:05:45,200 --> 05:05:46,120
Like, I just hope that after this

5896
05:05:46,120 --> 05:05:47,920
and it all has on execution,

5897
05:05:47,920 --> 05:05:50,800
we realize that we can do this all the time if we want.

5898
05:05:50,800 --> 05:05:51,800
Like, I just hope that after this

5899
05:05:51,800 --> 05:05:53,600
and it all has on execution.

5900
05:05:53,600 --> 05:05:55,160
- Is that the Fort Hood shooter?

5901
05:05:55,160 --> 05:05:56,400
- Realize that we can do this all the time.

5902
05:05:56,400 --> 05:05:57,520
- Is that his name?

5903
05:05:57,520 --> 05:05:58,920
- We can just execute people all the time.

5904
05:05:58,920 --> 05:05:59,760
That's the same thing.

5905
05:05:59,760 --> 05:06:00,600
Okay.

5906
05:06:00,600 --> 05:06:01,440
- I hope whenever it happens,

5907
05:06:01,440 --> 05:06:02,920
people realize that actually you can just do

5908
05:06:02,920 --> 05:06:04,440
whatever the hell you want.

5909
05:06:04,440 --> 05:06:05,280
- Green lantern.

5910
05:06:05,280 --> 05:06:06,120
There we apologize.

5911
05:06:06,120 --> 05:06:07,120
- Okay, there's a longstanding policy

5912
05:06:07,120 --> 05:06:07,940
at the Department of Justice.

5913
05:06:07,940 --> 05:06:08,940
It's not hard to fast rule,

5914
05:06:08,940 --> 05:06:10,760
but it is a policy that the Department of Justice

5915
05:06:10,760 --> 05:06:13,480
needs to take a lot of precautions in the 60 days

5916
05:06:13,480 --> 05:06:14,320
before an election.

5917
05:06:14,320 --> 05:06:15,320
They are well into that.

5918
05:06:15,320 --> 05:06:17,140
We are not even a month away.

5919
05:06:17,140 --> 05:06:18,600
And there is early voting happening

5920
05:06:18,600 --> 05:06:21,200
across the country at this time for this election.

5921
05:06:21,200 --> 05:06:22,800
Primary season is largely over.

5922
05:06:22,800 --> 05:06:24,020
It is unusual for the Justice Department

5923
05:06:24,020 --> 05:06:25,880
to make such a, what they would call an overt investigative

5924
05:06:25,880 --> 05:06:28,880
step and the Justice Department has all kinds of...

5925
05:06:28,880 --> 05:06:29,720
- Well, the Justice Department

5926
05:06:29,720 --> 05:06:30,560
didn't just make the step.

5927
05:06:30,560 --> 05:06:31,680
I mean, it was also approved by a judge.

5928
05:06:31,680 --> 05:06:32,520
- Internally.

5929
05:06:32,520 --> 05:06:33,360
- Yeah, I mean, it was also approved by them.

5930
05:06:33,360 --> 05:06:34,200
They're not gonna say that, right?

5931
05:06:34,200 --> 05:06:35,040
They don't want to say that

5932
05:06:35,040 --> 05:06:37,080
because they want it to appear as if they are...

5933
05:06:37,080 --> 05:06:39,360
You know, like I said, like this is just randomly happening.

5934
05:06:39,360 --> 05:06:40,680
- Wait, let this kind of fall.

5935
05:06:40,680 --> 05:06:42,240
- Justice Department didn't just make the step.

5936
05:06:42,240 --> 05:06:43,640
I mean, it was also approved by a judge.

5937
05:06:43,640 --> 05:06:44,480
- It's internal.

5938
05:06:44,480 --> 05:06:45,320
- Yeah, I mean, it was also approved by that,

5939
05:06:45,320 --> 05:06:46,160
but they're not gonna say that, right?

5940
05:06:46,160 --> 05:06:47,000
They don't want to say that

5941
05:06:47,000 --> 05:06:48,960
because they want it to appear as if they are,

5942
05:06:48,960 --> 05:06:57,880
you know, like as if like this is just randomly happening.

5943
05:06:57,880 --> 05:06:58,880
- Okay.

5944
05:06:58,880 --> 05:07:03,200
- Oh, sorry, as I'm going to chat, I was so fucking on the edge.

5945
05:07:03,200 --> 05:07:06,400
They're all like, that's a man.

5946
05:07:06,400 --> 05:07:08,120
Like, I thought Twitch was supposed to, like,

5947
05:07:08,120 --> 05:07:09,520
fucking regulate that.

5948
05:07:09,520 --> 05:07:13,880
Like, is that on Twitch or is that on kick?

5949
05:07:13,880 --> 05:07:15,480
- Twitch is, when it comes to politics,

5950
05:07:15,480 --> 05:07:18,200
it's like a fucking actual free-for-all insane shit over there.

5951
05:07:18,200 --> 05:07:19,920
I don't know what you have to say over there

5952
05:07:19,920 --> 05:07:21,560
to get banned anymore, I'm not sure.

5953
05:07:21,560 --> 05:07:23,880
- Wait, did he actually get away with saying that,

5954
05:07:23,880 --> 05:07:26,560
oh, like, we should shoot children?

5955
05:07:26,560 --> 05:07:30,000
- Mike from PA got a three-day ban

5956
05:07:30,000 --> 05:07:31,240
for making a death threat

5957
05:07:31,240 --> 05:07:34,240
against another partnered streamer hutch, so.

5958
05:07:34,240 --> 05:07:36,960
- Yeah, he also put out a hit job on you, so.

5959
05:07:36,960 --> 05:07:38,200
- Yeah, well, I'm not a partner streamer,

5960
05:07:38,200 --> 05:07:40,680
so you can say or do whatever by me, I guess.

5961
05:07:40,680 --> 05:07:44,760
- That's crazy, dude.

5962
05:07:44,760 --> 05:07:45,840
Okay, I'm gonna go to bed.

5963
05:07:45,840 --> 05:07:47,800
Bye, Steven, bye.

5964
05:07:47,800 --> 05:07:49,480
- Be careful.

5965
05:07:49,480 --> 05:07:50,320
- Okay.

5966
05:07:53,720 --> 05:07:56,520
- Percy, you better not be playing fucking Rocket League.

5967
05:07:58,600 --> 05:08:01,640
- I know I'm being artistic.

5968
05:08:01,640 --> 05:08:02,880
- What are you artsing?

5969
05:08:04,560 --> 05:08:08,480
- I'm building a level in Geometry Dash right now.

5970
05:08:08,480 --> 05:08:09,600
- Oh, my God.

5971
05:08:09,600 --> 05:08:11,440
Why are there blocks appearing randomly, Robert?

5972
05:08:11,440 --> 05:08:13,080
Are you throwing shit on the floor?

5973
05:08:15,280 --> 05:08:16,120
- Kinda.

5974
05:08:18,520 --> 05:08:19,360
- Okay.

5975
05:08:32,000 --> 05:08:34,440
- You're gonna get Dan to go harder on getting un-banded.

5976
05:08:34,440 --> 05:08:36,000
Well, I don't think that's what you're gonna do.

5977
05:08:36,000 --> 05:08:38,000
You're gonna be on the Dan Clancy, dude,

5978
05:08:38,000 --> 05:08:41,440
is the Twitch CEO guy,

5979
05:08:41,440 --> 05:08:44,440
'cause he's the dude that's super bought into the Asans shit.

5980
05:08:44,440 --> 05:08:46,120
Theoretically, you could get Dan Clancy removed,

5981
05:08:46,120 --> 05:08:47,360
it might not matter if the next guy that comes in

5982
05:08:47,360 --> 05:08:49,960
is also like a hard lefty that Asan can be friend,

5983
05:08:50,920 --> 05:08:52,720
but that's like the...

5984
05:08:59,440 --> 05:09:01,720
- You're gonna watch the Professor David video?

5985
05:09:03,040 --> 05:09:04,200
- Oh, fucking Asan.

5986
05:09:06,120 --> 05:09:06,960
Oh, my God.

5987
05:09:06,960 --> 05:09:08,440
How long was there interview chat?

5988
05:09:08,440 --> 05:09:09,960
Do you think he brought up one literally just because

5989
05:09:09,960 --> 05:09:12,720
he made a hit piece on me or a few of 'em?

5990
05:09:15,320 --> 05:09:17,800
- Maybe, I don't know.

5991
05:09:19,040 --> 05:09:22,120
It was, I don't even know if it's necessarily worth watching.

5992
05:09:22,120 --> 05:09:25,200
Like, I did go through it.

5993
05:09:25,200 --> 05:09:27,880
The funniest shit ever was like listening to him

5994
05:09:27,880 --> 05:09:30,520
kinda like pick Dave's brain for a little bit

5995
05:09:30,520 --> 05:09:32,240
whenever it came to people that he was like currently

5996
05:09:32,240 --> 05:09:33,840
fighting with in the space.

5997
05:09:33,840 --> 05:09:35,640
And then like both of them,

5998
05:09:35,640 --> 05:09:37,960
like you could kinda just tell that there was this tension

5999
05:09:37,960 --> 05:09:40,720
where it's like, do I mention the elephant in the room

6000
05:09:40,720 --> 05:09:41,560
or do I not?

6001
05:09:41,560 --> 05:09:44,520
And eventually I think you came up, but yeah, it was very rude.

6002
05:09:44,520 --> 05:09:45,360
- It was the element.

6003
05:09:45,360 --> 05:09:46,520
- It was the element. - I'm the element.

6004
05:09:46,520 --> 05:09:47,360
- Oh.

6005
05:09:47,360 --> 05:09:48,200
- Yeah.

6006
05:10:00,000 --> 05:10:07,000
Wait, how long is there chat?

6007
05:10:07,000 --> 05:10:12,000
About an hour and a half fish.

6008
05:10:12,000 --> 05:10:15,000
It's not crazy long.

6009
05:10:15,000 --> 05:10:20,000
I don't know, it's crazy though.

6010
05:10:20,000 --> 05:10:25,000
Fuck you.

6011
05:10:25,000 --> 05:10:33,000
I'm trying to think of I'm going to stay up for,

6012
05:10:33,000 --> 05:10:38,000
I'm going to at least step to anything else.

6013
05:10:38,000 --> 05:10:41,000
I'm a fucking god.

6014
05:10:41,000 --> 05:10:43,000
Better overnight streamer than me.

6015
05:10:43,000 --> 05:10:46,000
Shut the fuck up.

6016
05:10:46,000 --> 05:10:47,000
That's a good thing.

6017
05:10:47,000 --> 05:10:48,000
You stay up for anything else.

6018
05:10:48,000 --> 05:10:53,000
I went about early.

6019
05:10:53,000 --> 05:11:09,000
Put code a bit early, like 5 a.m.

6020
05:11:09,000 --> 05:11:11,000
Is that coming back up to the PHP patch?

6021
05:11:11,000 --> 05:11:12,000
No, we've taken it down permanently.

6022
05:11:12,000 --> 05:11:13,000
The lawsuit is too expensive.

6023
05:11:13,000 --> 05:11:14,000
I can't afford to host my site anymore.

6024
05:11:14,000 --> 05:11:22,000
So it's gone forever now.

6025
05:11:22,000 --> 05:11:44,000
What the fuck am I looking at?

6026
05:11:44,000 --> 05:12:08,000
Anyway, I'm going to have...

6027
05:12:08,000 --> 05:12:09,000
Get a 960, go to sleep.

6028
05:12:09,000 --> 05:12:11,000
I'm not going to sleep, fuck you.

6029
05:12:11,000 --> 05:12:16,000
I'll be back in the way of doing this or the...

6030
05:12:16,000 --> 05:12:18,000
Apparently, I just made a video on the fucking

6031
05:12:18,000 --> 05:12:19,000
Fort Hood shooter guy.

6032
05:12:19,000 --> 05:12:22,000
Jesus.

6033
05:12:22,000 --> 05:12:25,000
Secretary war...

6034
05:12:25,000 --> 05:12:26,000
I don't know.

6035
05:12:26,000 --> 05:12:28,000
Be back in a second.

6036
05:12:41,000 --> 05:12:51,000
No, not even TTS, holy shit.

6037
05:13:11,000 --> 05:13:14,000
Yo chat, do I need to be worried about any of the PHP stuff?

6038
05:13:14,000 --> 05:13:19,000
Does that stuff make me vulnerable, or am I okay?

6039
05:13:19,000 --> 05:13:21,000
Shut the hell up, bitch.

6040
05:13:21,000 --> 05:13:26,000
Hey.

6041
05:13:26,000 --> 05:13:33,000
Get fucking drive by snarked.

6042
05:13:33,000 --> 05:13:43,000
Get fucking drive by snarked.

6043
05:14:03,000 --> 05:14:25,000
No, I didn't get my PHP vaccination.

6044
05:14:25,000 --> 05:14:40,000
No, I didn't get it.

6045
05:14:40,000 --> 05:14:55,000
Yeah, I don't want any websites or anything.

6046
05:14:55,000 --> 05:15:00,000
I just want to make sure there's not, like, vulnerability right now in anything.

6047
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:02,880
My concern is that, like, something gets breached

6048
05:15:02,880 --> 05:15:04,680
and then passwords and shit gets yanked.

6049
05:15:04,680 --> 05:15:08,900
Like, I guess that would be my concern.

6050
05:15:12,360 --> 05:15:16,560
As far as I'm aware, the PHP thing is like RCE,

6051
05:15:16,560 --> 05:15:21,560
which is like remote code execution, I think.

6052
05:15:28,640 --> 05:15:30,120
Like, I like super fuck you.

6053
05:15:36,720 --> 05:15:37,720
Also, I see everybody.

6054
05:15:37,720 --> 05:15:41,040
I see all of you, 'cause I have the omni-chat open.

6055
05:15:42,960 --> 05:15:45,400
I see YouTube, I see Kick.

6056
05:15:45,400 --> 05:15:46,960
I see, like, the three-ditchy chairs

6057
05:15:46,960 --> 05:15:48,900
that are still somehow connected.

6058
05:15:50,760 --> 05:15:52,000
And I love you all equally.

6059
05:15:58,640 --> 05:16:03,640
[silence]

6060
05:16:17,280 --> 05:16:18,120
I gotta prove it.

6061
05:16:18,120 --> 05:16:18,960
Okay, I'll talk for you guys.

6062
05:16:18,960 --> 05:16:19,800
Hold up.

6063
05:16:19,800 --> 05:16:20,880
I'm torquing right now.

6064
05:16:20,880 --> 05:16:23,240
My camera's off, you can't see it, but I'm torquing.

6065
05:16:23,240 --> 05:16:24,800
[grunting]

6066
05:16:24,800 --> 05:16:25,800
Torquing so fast.

6067
05:16:25,800 --> 05:16:30,800
[groaning]

6068
05:16:54,880 --> 05:16:57,680
Security researchers that found the vulnerability.

6069
05:16:57,680 --> 05:16:58,760
Interesting.

6070
05:17:01,320 --> 05:17:03,560
Oh, they released shit at 5 AM, so in 30 minutes

6071
05:17:03,560 --> 05:17:05,480
and that's when things get dangerous.

6072
05:17:05,480 --> 05:17:07,520
Oh shit, okay.

6073
05:17:07,520 --> 05:17:10,560
So the vulnerability isn't out yet, hasn't dropped yet.

6074
05:17:10,560 --> 05:17:13,040
It's like GTA 6 at the moment, gotcha.

6075
05:17:25,120 --> 05:17:30,120
I changed my most sensitive passwords just to be safe.

6076
05:17:33,080 --> 05:17:36,440
Got my banking shit and my big socials.

6077
05:17:54,880 --> 05:17:59,880
[silence]

6078
05:18:24,880 --> 05:18:29,880
[silence]

6079
05:18:44,240 --> 05:18:45,400
Good weather.

6080
05:18:45,400 --> 05:18:46,760
Oh, here's this guy, man.

6081
05:18:50,440 --> 05:18:52,360
My content, my content!

6082
05:18:54,880 --> 05:18:59,880
[silence]

6083
05:19:22,480 --> 05:19:27,480
[chime]

6084
05:19:28,480 --> 05:19:30,480
Yo, what's going on?

6085
05:19:32,480 --> 05:19:33,480
Hello?

6086
05:19:33,480 --> 05:19:34,480
What's up?

6087
05:19:35,480 --> 05:19:37,480
Nothing much, gentlemen.

6088
05:19:41,480 --> 05:19:42,480
What are you up to?

6089
05:19:42,480 --> 05:19:44,480
You're up pretty late.

6090
05:19:44,480 --> 05:19:46,480
Uh, I can't sleep.

6091
05:19:46,480 --> 05:19:48,480
So I might as well stay up.

6092
05:19:48,480 --> 05:19:53,480
I don't know. You, an insomniac or what?

6093
05:19:53,480 --> 05:19:59,480
Not diagnostics or anything, but, you know, it happens.

6094
05:20:00,000 --> 05:20:04,600
Well, what's got you stand awake? Are you stressed or what? What's going on?

6095
05:20:06,360 --> 05:20:07,800
You know, projects and ship.

6096
05:20:18,120 --> 05:20:20,560
You got anything interesting on the go or what?

6097
05:20:21,600 --> 05:20:25,360
Oh, I'm trying to get one thing done before the Pennsylvania

6098
05:20:26,400 --> 05:20:29,520
canvassing event that will be happening this Saturday and you should sign up.

6099
05:20:30,080 --> 05:20:41,400
I'm going to be at the one in sin Antonio. I'll be fun in a toteo cringe.

6100
05:20:42,000 --> 05:20:45,680
Okay, what? That's not cringe.

6101
05:20:46,960 --> 05:20:49,160
Chemistry is based in awesome. No matter where it is.

6102
05:20:51,120 --> 05:20:53,680
It's going to be you and Darius and one other individual.

6103
05:20:53,760 --> 05:20:57,480
So I heard I don't think Darius is coming, but

6104
05:21:00,760 --> 05:21:05,440
I'll be there and I think I mean is tentative.

6105
05:21:06,560 --> 05:21:10,360
But probably doesn't want to be on stream, so that's fair.

6106
05:21:22,600 --> 05:21:24,280
Happy fun. I've never been to Texas before.

6107
05:21:24,640 --> 05:21:29,000
So I'll be seeing Austin in the San Antonio and then we're doing the whole road trip

6108
05:21:29,000 --> 05:21:33,600
from Austin to San Diego, so I'll get to see a whole bunch of new places.

6109
05:21:33,880 --> 05:21:38,640
The only place I've seen out that way is Vegas, but I flew in.

6110
05:21:38,680 --> 05:21:41,200
So I've never traveled the desert.

6111
05:21:43,440 --> 05:21:46,360
I don't know if it's all desert. I'm trying to remember last time.

6112
05:21:47,160 --> 05:21:51,120
I think it was like 10 years old last time I went to Texas.

6113
05:21:52,240 --> 05:21:55,360
Already out now. I got like a pocket knife from there and that's it.

6114
05:21:56,600 --> 05:21:58,160
Well, that's all point, right? You're supposed to.

6115
05:21:59,240 --> 05:22:01,240
You're supposed to remember that place?

6116
05:22:01,240 --> 05:22:03,240
Yeah, of course.

6117
05:22:09,040 --> 05:22:11,640
People keep telling me that Dallas is like a shithole.

6118
05:22:11,640 --> 05:22:12,760
What's so wrong with Dallas?

6119
05:22:12,760 --> 05:22:15,320
I feel like it's a nice place, no?

6120
05:22:15,320 --> 05:22:18,080
I mean, any city has a reputation for being a shithole

6121
05:22:18,080 --> 05:22:21,560
is because they are cities like what city has a good reputation.

6122
05:22:27,200 --> 05:22:29,200
Good question.

6123
05:22:32,840 --> 05:22:34,840
In Diego.

6124
05:22:40,440 --> 05:22:43,440
Good point, actually. I'm thinking of a single one.

6125
05:22:44,080 --> 05:22:46,080
Exactly.

6126
05:22:57,200 --> 05:23:05,680
I'm going to grab a drink. I'll have your effect.

6127
05:23:07,240 --> 05:23:09,240
All right.

6128
05:23:14,800 --> 05:23:16,520
What the fuck is this guy doing?

6129
05:23:16,520 --> 05:23:21,080
He leaves stream and then he's expecting the people in an easy to like entertain

6130
05:23:21,080 --> 05:23:24,000
no TTS to nothing. What the fuck is going on?

6131
05:23:27,200 --> 05:23:29,200
I'm going to grab a drink.

6132
05:23:57,200 --> 05:24:09,960
What people are expecting me to do, I can't even control the live stream.

6133
05:24:09,960 --> 05:24:12,120
It's our freestyle.

6134
05:24:12,120 --> 05:24:15,120
They're freestyling.

6135
05:24:15,120 --> 05:24:16,120
Yep.

6136
05:24:16,120 --> 05:24:17,120
Fuck.

6137
05:24:17,120 --> 05:24:28,720
I don't know what rhymes is north.

6138
05:24:28,720 --> 05:24:29,720
Fuck me.

6139
05:24:29,720 --> 05:24:34,120
Well, I was just hoping to get past at least one line.

6140
05:24:48,120 --> 05:24:49,520
Good effort, though.

6141
05:24:49,520 --> 05:24:52,440
Most people, you know, there's something to be said for at least giving it a shot.

6142
05:24:52,440 --> 05:24:55,120
Most people would just get shy and they wouldn't even start.

6143
05:24:55,120 --> 05:24:57,720
So you got that going.

6144
05:24:57,720 --> 05:24:58,720
Yeah, exactly.

6145
05:25:00,000 --> 05:25:18,000
How are things on your, um, your Twitter friend? I've seen a couple of your posts have been kind of popping off. I think, uh, people are you're becoming established in the Twitter space. I've been seeing you kind of pop up there. What's going on with that?

6146
05:25:18,000 --> 05:25:28,000
It was, um, it was, um, it was really funny. Ryan Malawi tried to sneak up into my, uh, my comments.

6147
05:25:28,000 --> 05:25:47,000
Oh, fuck. Is that like the Andrew Wilson light guy? Yeah, he's like the Andrew Wilson lawyer guy. They're all like middle-aged fat men. Um, and he's, he's the one known for being a lawyer. Um, he's like, I made a post make fun of, uh, the way that Peacecode debates. I don't know. Did you see the video of like the girlfriend boyfriend talking about food?

6148
05:25:47,000 --> 05:26:02,000
Um, I'll be honest, I don't keep up with Peacecode content all that much, but I, it's a, it's a, it's a funny video that I saw on Twitter. It's not political related, but it reminded me of how Peacecode debated.

6149
05:26:02,000 --> 05:26:14,000
Anyway, Ryan Malawi goes into the comments and he's trying to like, maybe I have seen it then. Wait, it's like, it's like a random, like, wait, which video? Hold on, I was trying to contextualize that in like a Peacecode.

6150
05:26:14,000 --> 05:26:44,000
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

6151
05:26:44,000 --> 05:26:54,740
Okay, yes, I have seen this, godly shit.

6152
05:26:54,740 --> 05:27:01,960
It literally is how a piece goes like communicates, unearnably.

6153
05:27:01,960 --> 05:27:07,040
So Ravelle gets up in my comments on the post and he says, "You should have asked me

6154
05:27:07,040 --> 05:27:08,040
about this.

6155
05:27:08,040 --> 05:27:10,560
There's a reason I knew to him from my orbit."

6156
05:27:10,560 --> 05:27:12,640
He's like, you know, trying to reach me up and all that.

6157
05:27:12,640 --> 05:27:17,680
I reposted that clip of him and piece code of eating each other, which he just says, "Yeah,

6158
05:27:17,680 --> 05:27:23,800
I don't actually care about the debate that we agreed to the schedule."

6159
05:27:23,800 --> 05:27:26,480
I'm basically telling him to go fuck himself.

6160
05:27:26,480 --> 05:27:33,480
I'm not going to get greeted by him or let him try to risk me up or anything like that.

6161
05:27:33,480 --> 05:27:34,480
Fuck you.

6162
05:27:34,480 --> 05:27:40,760
Can you stand up for another Pisco rematch or was the last one kind of like Black Pilling

6163
05:27:40,760 --> 05:27:42,200
for you or what?

6164
05:27:42,200 --> 05:27:49,600
It was Black Pilling in the sense of like, this has happened for a couple of conversations

6165
05:27:49,600 --> 05:27:56,460
with Pisco in which every time I interact with him, he always tries to do like the little

6166
05:27:56,460 --> 05:27:57,460
bro.

6167
05:27:57,460 --> 05:28:02,800
I want you to sit on this and think about it for a moment in North, or you're still

6168
05:28:02,800 --> 05:28:04,800
here.

6169
05:28:04,800 --> 05:28:05,800
He doesn't see you as an individual.

6170
05:28:05,800 --> 05:28:06,800
He doesn't see you as an individual.

6171
05:28:06,800 --> 05:28:11,560
The problem is whenever it's him talking to like basically anyone from this space, the

6172
05:28:11,560 --> 05:28:16,580
issue with Pisco is that he basically will just treat you as if you are like an extension

6173
05:28:16,580 --> 05:28:20,320
of Destiny's arguments instead of your own person making your own arguments because he

6174
05:28:20,320 --> 05:28:26,680
kind of has like the snarker idea right that nobody here has their own opinions, so he'll

6175
05:28:26,680 --> 05:28:30,080
just try to like push you on that shit and he'll disrespect the fuck out of you because

6176
05:28:30,080 --> 05:28:31,080
of that.

6177
05:28:31,080 --> 05:28:38,640
Yeah, he'll little roast me, so it's like it's the root behavior and then the conversations

6178
05:28:38,640 --> 05:28:44,080
are just always going to be extremely productive, so I don't know if I'm going to debate again.

6179
05:28:44,080 --> 05:28:48,440
And then that's not on top of the thing that I made my post about bringing regards and talk

6180
05:28:48,440 --> 05:28:51,400
to talk about all that stuff.

6181
05:28:51,400 --> 05:28:52,400
Yeah.

6182
05:28:52,400 --> 05:28:54,280
Well, that is fair.

6183
05:28:54,280 --> 05:28:56,840
Anything else teed up on that front though?

6184
05:28:56,840 --> 05:29:02,280
Like are you talking to anybody in trusting soon or anything scheduled?

6185
05:29:02,280 --> 05:29:03,760
Nothing scheduled in terms of debate.

6186
05:29:03,760 --> 05:29:06,600
There's one person that reached out for a Trump debate.

6187
05:29:06,600 --> 05:29:10,720
I was going to say, I hope it's not like another, I thought you were going to say like

6188
05:29:10,720 --> 05:29:14,600
another person like reached out to you in terms of like, hey, let's meet up in this city

6189
05:29:14,600 --> 05:29:15,600
together.

6190
05:29:15,600 --> 05:29:16,600
Yes, true.

6191
05:29:16,600 --> 05:29:22,920
Hey, you want to go meet up in my city and we can have another IRL debate?

6192
05:29:22,920 --> 05:29:23,920
Let's do it.

6193
05:29:23,920 --> 05:29:24,920
That guy's crazy.

6194
05:29:24,920 --> 05:29:27,120
I've seen some of the shit he's been getting up to recently.

6195
05:29:27,120 --> 05:29:28,820
What the fuck is this guy's name again?

6196
05:29:28,820 --> 05:29:29,820
I forgot it.

6197
05:29:29,820 --> 05:29:30,820
There's so many people.

6198
05:29:30,820 --> 05:29:31,820
Yeah.

6199
05:29:31,820 --> 05:29:32,820
What's my Tyler?

6200
05:29:32,820 --> 05:29:33,820
His mother fuckers.

6201
05:29:33,820 --> 05:29:34,820
Jesus.

6202
05:29:34,820 --> 05:29:36,820
What a loser.

6203
05:29:36,820 --> 05:29:39,820
Holy shit.

6204
05:29:39,820 --> 05:29:41,840
I'm surprised that we actually live in the same city.

6205
05:29:41,840 --> 05:29:45,200
It's kind of wild, but you know, I committed, he committed it.

6206
05:29:45,200 --> 05:29:46,200
It is.

6207
05:29:46,200 --> 05:29:47,700
We had a conversation.

6208
05:29:47,700 --> 05:29:51,480
I mean, and now he's trying to like do you want me?

6209
05:29:51,480 --> 05:29:57,160
For respect, you're showing up to that because holy shit, that is insane.

6210
05:29:57,160 --> 05:29:58,620
I don't think I could have showed up to that.

6211
05:29:58,620 --> 05:30:00,000
Like I feel like he, especially in the city.

6212
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:03,800
- Wait, the state you live in, is it open carry?

6213
05:30:05,160 --> 05:30:07,520
- We're a constitutional carry state, so.

6214
05:30:07,520 --> 05:30:12,520
- Yeah, that's, there's no long regulations for it, so.

6215
05:30:14,720 --> 05:30:16,800
I mean, I chose the location well.

6216
05:30:16,800 --> 05:30:18,880
It was in the middle of the city, right next to the courthouse,

6217
05:30:18,880 --> 05:30:20,560
like the police station was just down the block.

6218
05:30:20,560 --> 05:30:22,240
I mean, if you want to do it, I mean,

6219
05:30:22,240 --> 05:30:24,480
I mean, you would get completely fun for it, so.

6220
05:30:24,480 --> 05:30:27,120
- Yeah, I would have tried him the same day, it was,

6221
05:30:27,120 --> 05:30:27,960
right there.

6222
05:30:30,840 --> 05:30:33,340
(silence)

6223
05:30:34,280 --> 05:30:35,340
- That dude was pretty crazy, though.

6224
05:30:35,340 --> 05:30:37,080
You said he was trying to a-log you now?

6225
05:30:37,080 --> 05:30:37,920
That's not good.

6226
05:30:37,920 --> 05:30:39,000
- I'm pretty sure I saw a clip of him

6227
05:30:39,000 --> 05:30:41,640
talking about a-logging, do-you-g-people,

6228
05:30:41,640 --> 05:30:45,960
and this wasn't after, like, the whole post and out.

6229
05:30:46,920 --> 05:30:48,500
People getting docked, so.

6230
05:30:49,660 --> 05:30:52,680
- I wish these people truly would just find, like, hobbies.

6231
05:30:52,680 --> 05:30:54,060
Like, maybe they would enjoy something

6232
05:30:54,060 --> 05:30:58,200
that isn't, like, being crazy people online all the time.

6233
05:30:58,200 --> 05:31:00,400
Like, do you think, like, what if, like, morale

6234
05:31:00,400 --> 05:31:03,660
or whatever was secretly, like, a really good painter?

6235
05:31:03,660 --> 05:31:04,720
And he just, like, never knew it,

6236
05:31:04,720 --> 05:31:08,600
'cause he spent his whole life online

6237
05:31:08,600 --> 05:31:12,080
desperately, like, logging the lives of all of us.

6238
05:31:12,080 --> 05:31:15,800
Maybe he's, like, he could be the next Beethoven,

6239
05:31:15,800 --> 05:31:17,840
but, you know, unlucky.

6240
05:31:21,000 --> 05:31:23,760
- Maybe, instead of being a piece of shit

6241
05:31:23,760 --> 05:31:25,160
who's wasted his entire life,

6242
05:31:25,160 --> 05:31:27,520
basically stalking people online and, like,

6243
05:31:27,520 --> 05:31:29,920
stalking them and all that,

6244
05:31:29,920 --> 05:31:31,900
killers of morale and Minecraft.

6245
05:31:32,800 --> 05:31:35,060
(laughing)

6246
05:31:36,800 --> 05:31:39,000
- You're gonna let the cat get to you like that?

6247
05:31:39,000 --> 05:31:40,000
Come on, man.

6248
05:31:44,840 --> 05:31:47,120
How do you feel about the doctrine

6249
05:31:47,120 --> 05:31:50,320
going forward of cutting off air to these people?

6250
05:31:50,320 --> 05:31:52,360
How do you feel about that?

6251
05:31:52,360 --> 05:31:55,600
- Well, it's not really necessarily cutting off air.

6252
05:31:55,600 --> 05:31:57,920
At least that's not what I think about it.

6253
05:31:57,920 --> 05:32:02,840
Like, the thing that I'm concerned about is,

6254
05:32:02,840 --> 05:32:07,840
like, if people were to look at me or someone else,

6255
05:32:07,920 --> 05:32:11,680
like, debating or talking to, like, snarker people,

6256
05:32:11,680 --> 05:32:13,080
I don't want them to get, like, the false impression

6257
05:32:13,080 --> 05:32:15,400
that it's just, like, I don't know,

6258
05:32:15,400 --> 05:32:16,920
that there's gonna be, like, no consequences

6259
05:32:16,920 --> 05:32:18,360
that come after that.

6260
05:32:18,360 --> 05:32:22,320
So, like, I'm not necessarily against people,

6261
05:32:22,320 --> 05:32:24,040
like, in and of itself, talking to them.

6262
05:32:24,040 --> 05:32:26,080
It's more so, I don't like the harassment campaigns

6263
05:32:26,080 --> 05:32:27,080
to sort of follow.

6264
05:32:27,080 --> 05:32:29,160
So, like, I understand where Stephen is coming from

6265
05:32:29,160 --> 05:32:31,840
and which he wants to encourage his community

6266
05:32:31,840 --> 05:32:36,400
to basically not be a part of that harassment pipeline.

6267
05:32:36,400 --> 05:32:37,240
So. - Yeah.

6268
05:32:38,620 --> 05:32:39,460
- Yeah, that's fair.

6269
05:32:42,080 --> 05:32:43,160
What do you think about the,

6270
05:32:45,120 --> 05:32:46,840
were you around for any of the pot stuff

6271
05:32:46,840 --> 05:32:49,080
whenever that stuff was being discussed?

6272
05:32:49,080 --> 05:32:51,560
- Uh, no, I was not.

6273
05:32:51,560 --> 05:32:53,800
I mean, I listened to a little bit of the pot stuff.

6274
05:32:53,800 --> 05:32:57,280
I know it was basically the pot experiment failed

6275
05:32:57,280 --> 05:32:58,880
and then Ray, he tried to join VC

6276
05:32:58,880 --> 05:33:00,360
and then he got pulled the fuck out,

6277
05:33:00,360 --> 05:33:02,160
which was funny to listen to.

6278
05:33:05,920 --> 05:33:10,920
- It is kind of crazy how he can say so much,

6279
05:33:11,240 --> 05:33:13,520
well, truly saying so little.

6280
05:33:13,520 --> 05:33:16,780
I do love him with my whole heart, but yeah.

6281
05:33:18,400 --> 05:33:20,320
I was like watching that conversation

6282
05:33:20,320 --> 05:33:21,680
that Ray didn't have on stream

6283
05:33:21,680 --> 05:33:25,440
'cause I was like doing my own shit and

6284
05:33:25,440 --> 05:33:27,280
you just completely fucking mischaracterized

6285
05:33:27,280 --> 05:33:28,480
what I was saying.

6286
05:33:28,480 --> 05:33:30,080
And then I clarified it in chat

6287
05:33:30,080 --> 05:33:32,840
and then he came back on my stream later on that night

6288
05:33:32,840 --> 05:33:36,400
and then when I had, ah, man, listen, you know what I mean?

6289
05:33:36,400 --> 05:33:38,000
- He's determined.

6290
05:33:38,000 --> 05:33:40,840
- He needs to just, he needs to hook his brain

6291
05:33:40,840 --> 05:33:42,400
into Claude at this point.

6292
05:33:42,400 --> 05:33:45,160
'Cause I just, I think like so much of his life

6293
05:33:45,160 --> 05:33:46,840
has been automated by Claude.

6294
05:33:46,840 --> 05:33:48,000
I think it just needs to be everything.

6295
05:33:48,000 --> 05:33:50,440
Like, Claude should be reminding him to breathe.

6296
05:33:50,440 --> 05:33:51,840
It should be reminding him to eat.

6297
05:33:51,840 --> 05:33:53,120
It should be telling him how to think

6298
05:33:53,120 --> 05:33:57,080
and I think that everyone would be better off for it.

6299
05:34:00,120 --> 05:34:00,960
- Thank you.

6300
05:34:05,400 --> 05:34:06,400
- What did we know?

6301
05:34:06,400 --> 05:34:07,640
There's no radiant in chat.

6302
05:34:07,640 --> 05:34:08,800
It's just Claude.

6303
05:34:08,800 --> 05:34:10,400
He's already automated that out.

6304
05:34:14,640 --> 05:34:15,960
- I wouldn't put it past him.

6305
05:34:20,440 --> 05:34:25,440
- Okay, I'm getting one good.

6306
05:34:47,320 --> 05:34:49,680
- Parsec has no life experiences.

6307
05:34:49,680 --> 05:34:51,880
- I can't take him seriously.

6308
05:34:51,880 --> 05:34:53,920
Man, what do you want me to go through?

6309
05:34:53,920 --> 05:34:55,560
What do you want me to go through

6310
05:34:55,560 --> 05:34:57,160
for you to respect me, man?

6311
05:34:58,080 --> 05:34:59,080
Do you need me to?

6312
05:35:00,000 --> 05:35:02,000
What do you need me to do?

6313
05:35:03,560 --> 05:35:05,560
Do I need to

6314
05:35:07,040 --> 05:35:12,640
You guys should go out. I need you break up. Do I need to have a divorce don't need to be

6315
05:35:15,320 --> 05:35:17,320
What

6316
05:35:23,880 --> 05:35:25,880
All of the above

6317
05:35:28,960 --> 05:35:30,960
Listen, man, I've been through a lot. Okay

6318
05:35:31,280 --> 05:35:34,160
You know what I had to go through this morning. It was fucking insane

6319
05:35:34,160 --> 05:35:39,920
I woke up and I was like I'm kind of hungry. So I ordered McDonald's this morning, right?

6320
05:35:40,680 --> 05:35:44,880
My order came and you know what was at my fucking door not McDonald's

6321
05:35:45,280 --> 05:35:52,880
It was a Burger King order that was not the McDonald's that I ordered. Do you have any idea how fucking traumatizing that is?

6322
05:35:53,680 --> 05:36:02,220
Do you have any idea how traumatizing that shit is? I had to suffer through a Burger King meal that I did not order this morning

6323
05:36:02,220 --> 05:36:07,600
And I didn't have the coffee that I ordered and I was not able to be caffeinated like I wanted to

6324
05:36:08,200 --> 05:36:10,200
But you don't just like

6325
05:36:10,400 --> 05:36:15,120
Say that you got the wrong order and get your refund immediately. Oh, yeah, I got refunded, but

6326
05:36:15,600 --> 05:36:21,560
It was like the mental anguish. They should have they should have paid me like minimum 2k for the mental anguish

6327
05:36:21,560 --> 05:36:23,560
That comes along with getting the wrong order

6328
05:36:27,560 --> 05:36:29,560
Like minimum

6329
05:36:36,840 --> 05:36:39,760
Hey, listen, I'm a good uber order

6330
05:36:39,760 --> 05:36:47,600
I always max tip. I do the max tip like the 50% not the 50%. It's a 30% button. I always click that one

6331
05:36:48,120 --> 05:36:52,360
I'm a good guy about it. I promise it's just man. Just give me the right food

6332
05:36:52,360 --> 05:36:54,760
It can't be that crazy to take it right.

6333
05:37:01,880 --> 05:37:09,400
I don't know how it is with over eats, but I think DoorDash planages you pretty hard if you if you mess up too much

6334
05:37:18,120 --> 05:37:20,120
I

6335
05:37:27,000 --> 05:37:34,160
Could just man, I can never get into sieve. I don't know what it is about that game. I have

6336
05:37:35,960 --> 05:37:38,360
All of the games going back I think to sieve for

6337
05:37:39,080 --> 05:37:46,520
Because I buy them when they come out and I'm like, maybe this is the one where it's gonna truly hook me and then I buy the new sieve game

6338
05:37:46,520 --> 05:37:53,080
I try it out, and then I'm just like underwhelmed by the gameplay experience every single time I try to play. I don't know why

6339
05:37:57,680 --> 05:38:02,400
Like what are you expecting when you play sieve? I guess I'm expecting like

6340
05:38:03,880 --> 05:38:07,480
Like role play like role-playing risk

6341
05:38:08,520 --> 05:38:12,280
And then I try it and then I get like

6342
05:38:15,480 --> 05:38:17,480
Passively over complicated

6343
05:38:19,880 --> 05:38:21,880
What's that like passive

6344
05:38:22,400 --> 05:38:24,400
What's the um

6345
05:38:25,160 --> 05:38:30,600
There's something that plays really similar to sieve and it's also multiplayer. What is that game?

6346
05:38:34,280 --> 05:38:36,280
I don't know. I don't know what you're thinking of

6347
05:38:37,640 --> 05:38:39,640
Europa over Salas

6348
05:38:41,640 --> 05:38:44,120
Yeah, yeah, okay, what I mess. What are we talking about?

6349
05:38:45,640 --> 05:38:47,640
Uh

6350
05:38:47,640 --> 05:38:54,920
How you took 30 minutes in order to get back to your live stream and how your dear viewers are all bored to tears listening to us talk

6351
05:38:55,000 --> 05:38:59,640
They love talking to you guys. They are not bored to tears. I've been keeping them. It's so entertaining. Are you kidding me?

6352
05:38:59,880 --> 05:39:04,520
Yeah, you were silent for five minutes per second. That's why I had to join the strain to entertain for people

6353
05:39:05,480 --> 05:39:09,000
Well, I didn't know that he was gonna take 30 minutes. I was

6354
05:39:09,800 --> 05:39:13,400
Building my art and I didn't know that I was on entertainment duty

6355
05:39:15,000 --> 05:39:17,000
We did a great job. We're so proud of you

6356
05:39:18,200 --> 05:39:20,200
Thank you

6357
05:39:22,120 --> 05:39:24,120
Wait, so what happens what are you guys talking about?

6358
05:39:25,240 --> 05:39:26,520
Uh sieve

6359
05:39:26,520 --> 05:39:32,920
One over a whole bunch we talked about um north's recent twitter activity how popular he's been getting recently

6360
05:39:33,480 --> 05:39:35,480
Um talking about

6361
05:39:37,640 --> 05:39:39,320
When a good way yeah, he's been

6362
05:39:44,760 --> 05:39:48,760
Wow, so some good and some bad say you're definitely misrepresenting that person. Okay

6363
05:39:49,880 --> 05:39:51,080
No

6364
05:39:51,080 --> 05:39:57,160
Absolutely not. He's been popping the fuck off on twitter and he had ryan sima lily in his replies

6365
05:39:57,640 --> 05:39:59,640
Trying to

6366
05:40:00,000 --> 05:40:03,520
Yeah, for a conversation. So you know, he's getting popular.

6367
05:40:08,880 --> 05:40:12,480
So we talked about, actually, I think we talked about some right, we talked about.

6368
05:40:15,280 --> 05:40:19,760
Yeah, that's about it. Jesus. Yeah, Raimel, he was one of the first

6369
05:40:19,760 --> 05:40:22,480
people in this space. I think I ever had like a conversation with

6370
05:40:23,760 --> 05:40:29,280
Connor put him in a group chat with me. It only took me like a day to figure out he was a little bit

6371
05:40:29,280 --> 05:40:38,160
different than what I was looking for. What are you gonna do? Wait, iGOR MKV in YouTube chat. Are you

6372
05:40:38,160 --> 05:40:44,480
iGOR from DJG snarking me in YouTube chat? Parsec is a tech illiterate emote re-uploader. What

6373
05:40:44,480 --> 05:40:50,240
art is he making? Wait, are you iGOR like the emote guy from DJG snarking me cross platform?

6374
05:40:50,240 --> 05:40:58,640
What the fuck? Isn't he eGOR? Why would he be iGOR? Well, because there's an i on e obviously.

6375
05:40:59,280 --> 05:41:16,000
I thought you died.

6376
05:41:26,480 --> 05:41:34,320
What took you so long? I got a new thing. I have to transfer my things into the other from the

6377
05:41:34,320 --> 05:41:41,520
thing to the thing. Ah, very descriptive. Thank you.

6378
05:41:49,440 --> 05:41:56,880
Was it your way to declaw get that shit for you? Technically kind of yeah. I got a rack. I got a

6379
05:41:56,880 --> 05:42:00,640
portable rack thing before and like a roller thing but I guess it's not it wasn't air travel

6380
05:42:00,640 --> 05:42:05,680
safe because it fucking cracked. I got a different one. It's like shock absorbent and all that good

6381
05:42:05,680 --> 05:42:23,680
shit because the other one is fucked. It's like a modular rack thing for your AV stuff or what?

6382
05:42:23,680 --> 05:42:31,760
All racks modular. But yes, it's like a six. Well, not always. What does U stand for? Universal

6383
05:42:31,760 --> 05:42:42,080
rack. I think you are. Hold on one second.

6384
05:42:47,600 --> 05:42:49,840
There's no fucking way.

6385
05:42:51,120 --> 05:43:07,440
On again. The other two hours before we see him again. Jesus. Well, start the timer.

6386
05:43:14,880 --> 05:43:16,960
Oh, what are you doing to wake north with the fuck?

6387
05:43:18,800 --> 05:43:23,200
I can't sleep. I can't hang out. Is that a crime now? What's your time zone?

6388
05:43:25,280 --> 05:43:35,120
Eastern standard time. Jesus. Yeah.

6389
05:43:47,520 --> 05:43:52,720
Wait. Is Kim Jong-un dead? We don't know.

6390
05:43:56,800 --> 05:44:00,320
People were making both sped up on Twitter but I didn't see anything that was like really

6391
05:44:00,320 --> 05:44:05,920
verified. It was all pretty sketchy alternate media for bring on it. So we don't know what

6392
05:44:05,920 --> 05:44:12,080
you think you said or something happened. People think that he died. Yeah. There's rumors. Why what

6393
05:44:12,080 --> 05:44:19,200
happened? Like by accident or just health? I think there was allegedly some insider was saying that

6394
05:44:19,200 --> 05:44:24,960
he was dead and his sister made a statement or something like that. I don't really know like all

6395
05:44:24,960 --> 05:44:29,840
the specifics. All I know is that I haven't seen any mainstream media pick up on it. So I'm just

6396
05:44:29,840 --> 05:44:37,680
going to assume it is all about it. Well, I heard it from Emmy and Emmy is like a huge career boo

6397
05:44:37,680 --> 05:44:45,440
and she has inside sources. I'm North Korea boo as well. Yep. Well, she's actually more in love with

6398
05:44:45,440 --> 05:44:49,680
North Korea than South Korea, which is kind of peculiar but it was kind of endearing.

6399
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:15,920
I'm just intriguing though, like they have like a dear leader like we do.

6400
05:45:15,920 --> 05:45:42,520
I think it is funny with the North Korea thing is that the only successor that they have

6401
05:45:42,520 --> 05:45:47,180
are like female leaders.

6402
05:45:47,180 --> 05:45:51,860
I think there's any male leaders that are in the Kim family.

6403
05:45:51,860 --> 05:46:00,560
Can I just say like a new god is born somewhere and then shows up and they find him or whatever.

6404
05:46:00,560 --> 05:46:01,560
Also why is that funny?

6405
05:46:01,560 --> 05:46:15,160
I think it's funny, female leadership.

6406
05:46:15,160 --> 05:46:33,220
If women want to be dictators, they can do too.

6407
05:46:33,220 --> 05:46:34,220
What is this chat I'm talking about?

6408
05:46:34,220 --> 05:46:40,280
Remember the time Emmy made Prusik cry and he had to leave on the air.

6409
05:46:40,280 --> 05:46:43,640
That is a schizo chatter.

6410
05:46:43,640 --> 05:46:46,800
It's Umbra claw in YouTube chat for some reason.

6411
05:46:46,800 --> 05:46:51,800
The sky is actual schizo-frenic chatter.

6412
05:46:51,800 --> 05:46:55,040
I don't know what to tell you about.

6413
05:46:55,040 --> 05:46:56,040
Really?

6414
05:46:56,040 --> 05:46:59,420
Schizo because you guys disagree on something.

6415
05:46:59,420 --> 05:47:11,820
Well, no, Schizo because he's schizo.

6416
05:47:11,820 --> 05:47:12,820
Why is he schizo?

6417
05:47:12,820 --> 05:47:37,820
just I don't know. I thought so. I thought so. Hmm. Okay. Yeah. No, sure. I'll show you. No, I believe you. He's got clips for Perry. He's gonna pull him up.

6418
05:47:42,820 --> 05:47:46,820
Okay.

6419
05:47:46,820 --> 05:47:50,820
Okay.

6420
05:47:50,820 --> 05:47:54,820
Okay.

6421
05:47:54,820 --> 05:47:58,820
Okay.

6422
05:47:58,820 --> 05:48:04,820
Okay.

6423
05:48:04,820 --> 05:48:10,820
Okay.

6424
05:48:10,820 --> 05:48:18,820
Okay.

6425
05:48:18,820 --> 05:48:30,820
Okay.

6426
05:48:30,820 --> 05:48:42,820
Really? Yeah, really. We hear you about it.

6427
05:48:42,820 --> 05:48:56,820
I'm not going to go back to what you were talking about before.

6428
05:48:56,820 --> 05:49:02,820
It's just boring. It's a boring game.

6429
05:49:02,820 --> 05:49:12,820
Wait, wait, wait, wait.

6430
05:49:12,820 --> 05:49:24,820
Is this a shitty game? There's no iron patches. I can't smelt iron. I can't put any items on belts. I can't, like, I can't fabricate anything. Like, what the fuck is the point?

6431
05:49:24,820 --> 05:49:30,820
Yeah, that's not what that game's about.

6432
05:49:30,820 --> 05:49:38,820
See, this is how I know he never played Sith, because if he did, he would know that there are tiles with iron on them.

6433
05:49:38,820 --> 05:49:46,820
Oh, yeah, there's tiles with iron on them. And then what do you get whenever you discover the tile with iron? You get one iron.

6434
05:49:46,820 --> 05:49:50,820
You have to mine it, because that's the whole point.

6435
05:49:50,820 --> 05:49:56,820
What, the miners? Little builders are going in. Exactly. Child labor.

6436
05:49:56,820 --> 05:49:58,820
Oh, based.

6437
05:50:00,000 --> 05:50:02,080
(laughs)

6438
05:50:30,000 --> 05:50:33,000
(machine whirring)

6439
05:50:51,000 --> 05:50:53,000
Wireless microphone things?

6440
05:50:53,000 --> 05:50:55,000
Goodbye, this was a goodbye.

6441
05:50:59,000 --> 05:51:02,000
That guy was so passionate about it when he explained it to you.

6442
05:51:02,000 --> 05:51:03,000
That's unfortunate.

6443
05:51:03,000 --> 05:51:04,000
What?

6444
05:51:04,000 --> 05:51:05,000
I said this was a goodbye.

6445
05:51:05,000 --> 05:51:07,000
The wireless mics.

6446
05:51:07,000 --> 05:51:08,000
Oh.

6447
05:51:08,000 --> 05:51:11,000
Don't have to run any XLR cables all over the fucking venue.

6448
05:51:11,000 --> 05:51:13,000
They work perfectly.

6449
05:51:13,000 --> 05:51:15,000
Oh, hell yeah.

6450
05:51:27,000 --> 05:51:31,000
Not riveting content because he's drilling, I get it.

6451
05:51:31,000 --> 05:51:32,000
Hot!

6452
05:51:32,000 --> 05:51:33,000
Well.

6453
05:51:33,000 --> 05:51:34,000
(laughs)

6454
05:51:34,000 --> 05:51:36,000
Pretty good.

6455
05:51:38,000 --> 05:51:39,000
So how's life been north?

6456
05:51:39,000 --> 05:51:41,000
What have you been up to besides tweeting, I guess?

6457
05:51:41,000 --> 05:51:43,000
I already asked him all these questions.

6458
05:51:43,000 --> 05:51:44,000
You're late.

6459
05:51:44,000 --> 05:51:48,000
Try to work on something before I head to Pennsylvania with the

6460
05:51:48,000 --> 05:51:50,000
digital economy and chemistry.

6461
05:51:50,000 --> 05:51:52,000
Oh, shit.

6462
05:51:52,000 --> 05:51:53,000
Based?

6463
05:51:58,000 --> 05:52:02,000
Are you looking forward to it?

6464
05:52:02,000 --> 05:52:05,000
That's going to be so much fun, right?

6465
05:52:05,000 --> 05:52:08,000
Uh, definitely is going to be an experience.

6466
05:52:08,000 --> 05:52:09,000
Yes, I'm looking forward to it.

6467
05:52:09,000 --> 05:52:10,000
It's going to be so much fun.

6468
05:52:10,000 --> 05:52:11,000
Yes.

6469
05:52:11,000 --> 05:52:13,000
Good answer, dude.

6470
05:52:22,000 --> 05:52:27,000
Are there co-host slots open for that San Antonio midterm

6471
05:52:27,000 --> 05:52:29,000
stream or what?

6472
05:52:29,000 --> 05:52:31,000
Because me and Emi are going to be there.

6473
05:52:31,000 --> 05:52:32,000
No.

6474
05:52:32,000 --> 05:52:36,000
We might have to make her into like a tummy

6475
05:52:36,000 --> 05:52:38,000
so that she can be on that stream.

6476
05:52:38,000 --> 05:52:40,000
No, I'm actually just dumbing it to as few people on camera as

6477
05:52:40,000 --> 05:52:43,000
possible because I don't want anybody sharing my spotlight.

6478
05:52:43,000 --> 05:52:47,000
But we are renting co-host positions for $20,000 a night

6479
05:52:47,000 --> 05:52:48,000
or $1,000.

6480
05:52:48,000 --> 05:52:49,000
$1,000?

6481
05:52:49,000 --> 05:52:50,000
Yeah.

6482
05:52:50,000 --> 05:52:54,000
Yeah, just for just $20,000, you could be an election night

6483
05:52:54,000 --> 05:52:58,000
stream co-host.

6484
05:52:58,000 --> 05:53:00,000
I'll have to consider that.

6485
05:53:00,000 --> 05:53:01,000
Consider it.

6486
05:53:01,000 --> 05:53:03,000
Think about it.

6487
05:53:03,000 --> 05:53:06,000
I'm thinking.

6488
05:53:06,000 --> 05:53:10,000
Darius and Emi should be there too, right?

6489
05:53:10,000 --> 05:53:14,000
Um, I mean, digital ground game has to probably okay

6490
05:53:14,000 --> 05:53:16,000
on being there first, but yeah.

6491
05:53:16,000 --> 05:53:20,000
I mean, they like live there, no, or they live over in Austin.

6492
05:53:20,000 --> 05:53:25,000
Um, yeah, Austin.

6493
05:53:45,000 --> 05:53:46,000
Yeah, should be fun.

6494
05:53:46,000 --> 05:53:49,000
I have no fucking idea how I'm getting from Austin to San Antonio,

6495
05:53:49,000 --> 05:53:50,000
though.

6496
05:53:50,000 --> 05:53:53,000
People were telling me there's a train that runs,

6497
05:53:53,000 --> 05:53:56,000
like the Amtrak line, and there's also a bus.

6498
05:53:56,000 --> 05:53:59,000
Apparently, the train is like three and a half hours

6499
05:53:59,000 --> 05:54:00,000
together.

6500
05:54:00,000 --> 05:54:03,000
Can you catch a ride with somebody going from Austin?

6501
05:54:03,000 --> 05:54:06,000
I don't know anyone from Austin that's going yet.

6502
05:54:06,000 --> 05:54:07,000
He said Darius is going.

6503
05:54:07,000 --> 05:54:08,000
Isn't Emi going?

6504
05:54:08,000 --> 05:54:09,000
Don't they both live in Austin?

6505
05:54:09,000 --> 05:54:14,000
Um, yeah, but I don't know.

6506
05:54:14,000 --> 05:54:15,000
No.

6507
05:54:15,000 --> 05:54:18,000
Well, actually, I don't know if either of them are coming out.

6508
05:54:18,000 --> 05:54:19,000
No.

6509
05:54:19,000 --> 05:54:20,000
So you live.

6510
05:54:20,000 --> 05:54:24,000
And well, I think Emi is like a tentative yes,

6511
05:54:24,000 --> 05:54:27,000
and then Darius is just, I don't know if he's going to go

6512
05:54:27,000 --> 05:54:31,000
without like, did you, allowing him to like be there and

6513
05:54:31,000 --> 05:54:32,000
stream the event and show it.

6514
05:54:32,000 --> 05:54:33,000
So I don't know.

6515
05:54:33,000 --> 05:54:35,000
Well, like everyone's going to be there and then like he doesn't

6516
05:54:35,000 --> 05:54:36,000
have to attend the event.

6517
05:54:36,000 --> 05:54:37,000
Right.

6518
05:54:37,000 --> 05:54:38,000
Just attend like after one.

6519
05:54:38,000 --> 05:54:45,000
Okay.

6520
05:54:45,000 --> 05:54:52,000
Okay.

6521
05:54:52,000 --> 05:54:59,000
Okay.

6522
05:54:59,000 --> 05:55:00,000
Okay.

6523
05:55:00,000 --> 05:55:15,760
you guys remember that a fake poll that was posted yeah about the

6524
05:55:15,760 --> 05:55:21,600
those concept I very like yeah by our friends at Westgate the west bridge

6525
05:55:21,600 --> 05:55:27,100
yeah the very authentic west bridge oh yeah oh sorry which would that West

6526
05:55:27,100 --> 05:55:36,040
way yeah how did you know that they were a quote-unquote social experience I

6527
05:55:36,040 --> 05:55:39,040
think I'm ever even talking about this I feel like they made a statement about

6528
05:55:39,040 --> 05:55:43,040
this in the past unless there's another polling fake polling place that made a

6529
05:55:43,040 --> 05:55:45,520
statement about this in the past but somebody made a statement about this in

6530
05:55:45,520 --> 05:55:51,440
the past so they were a social experiment or whatever my is the thing

6531
05:55:51,440 --> 05:55:55,660
that blew up on Twitter again recently was them talking about them being a

6532
05:55:55,660 --> 05:56:03,040
social experiment people were like exposing them yep I'm so confused by that

6533
05:56:03,040 --> 05:56:07,900
statement in general because I feel like pulling kind of in general is like a

6534
05:56:07,900 --> 05:56:12,880
social experiment like what distinguishes these people feel like about

6535
05:56:12,880 --> 05:56:18,440
their polls they just made shit out okay and then when somebody contacted them to

6536
05:56:18,440 --> 05:56:21,960
start inquiring about their methodology they released a statement because the

6537
05:56:21,960 --> 05:56:23,680
other people were probably going to expose them and they were like oh we just

6538
05:56:23,680 --> 05:56:27,280
want you guys know we were a social experiment by the way

6539
05:56:49,960 --> 05:56:56,560
I think a Maori McMurrow is sort of waiting on the face poll yeah pretty fucked

6540
05:56:56,560 --> 05:57:00,640
pretty mad understandably so

6541
05:57:19,960 --> 05:57:33,840
oh okay

6542
05:57:49,960 --> 05:58:12,660
no what are you doing I'm eating and fine fuck you

6543
05:58:13,260 --> 05:58:18,700
I'm getting no I shouldn't have I should just turn my camera off now you're gonna

6544
05:58:18,700 --> 05:58:20,700
stop talking you think just because I'm here I have to fuck and entertain

6545
05:58:20,700 --> 05:58:35,100
everybody yeah there's rain okay you fell for the guy that's like put music on

6546
05:58:35,100 --> 05:59:03,860
yep that's going to change anything

6547
05:59:03,860 --> 05:59:15,300
yeah the whole Ukraine starlight thing either we have a corporation that is

6548
05:59:15,300 --> 05:59:19,000
able to shut down the internet that is tied to like a foreign country's

6549
05:59:19,000 --> 05:59:26,900
military without any sort of oversight by our government or our government is

6550
05:59:26,900 --> 05:59:36,020
liberty and they're just lying about it pretty fucked

6551
05:59:38,120 --> 05:59:45,740
did it cut wasn't it was a reporting that it came from Elon well Trump is saying

6552
05:59:45,740 --> 05:59:50,420
that it is Starlink and he won made a statement saying that it was the

6553
05:59:50,420 --> 06:00:00,000
government so they're blaming each other

6554
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:11,040
I think it's about violating terms of service, or maybe that's what I think it's going to be.

6555
06:00:11,040 --> 06:00:22,600
Dude, I accidentally closed dzg, I closed dzg, and now it's gotten harder, I'm not going to do it.

6556
06:00:22,600 --> 06:00:42,840
I'm supposed to be for Star Shield, it's supposed to be for military application, right?

6557
06:00:42,840 --> 06:00:43,840
I looked into it.

6558
06:00:43,840 --> 06:00:51,520
I think Star Shield is kind of for military, but also not really.

6559
06:00:51,520 --> 06:00:57,560
I think what Ukraine does is that they use the Star Link network to operate their drones.

6560
06:00:57,560 --> 06:01:03,760
And Star Shield is like Star Link satellites that have some specialized capability for monitoring

6561
06:01:03,760 --> 06:01:07,600
and intelligence gathering and all that.

6562
06:01:07,600 --> 06:01:14,120
I don't think Ukraine is, I think they receive intelligence from Star Shield, but I think

6563
06:01:14,120 --> 06:01:16,520
they use the Star Link network for their development.

6564
06:01:16,520 --> 06:01:19,880
I think it's all the same network as satellite, Star Shield is just supposed to be the military

6565
06:01:19,880 --> 06:01:20,880
product.

6566
06:01:20,880 --> 06:01:25,680
Dude, I think Star Shield has some special satellites that are only for this Star Shield

6567
06:01:25,680 --> 06:01:30,840
network that they do more.

6568
06:01:30,840 --> 06:01:42,760
This is a satellite, what the fuck does it do, is it bounces signals now?

6569
06:01:42,760 --> 06:01:51,200
I think it, the Wikipedia articles, that said that it's able to gather intelligence.

6570
06:01:51,200 --> 06:02:21,040
I think the satellites themselves do it, they're specialized.

6571
06:02:21,040 --> 06:02:28,040
I think they're specialized.

6572
06:02:28,040 --> 06:02:57,880
Okay.

6573
06:02:57,880 --> 06:03:24,600
I'm just going to leave for a second but now I'm just grabbing something.

6574
06:03:24,600 --> 06:03:37,480
Okay, I'm just going to leave for a second but now I'm just going to leave for a second.

6575
06:03:37,480 --> 06:03:58,840
Okay, I'm just going to leave for a second and I'm just going to leave for a second.

6576
06:03:58,840 --> 06:04:15,120
I'm not sure what, waiting.

6577
06:04:15,120 --> 06:04:25,120
With the slowing down of two separate systems, Star Link and Star Shield, so there are two

6578
06:04:25,120 --> 06:04:27,200
separate systems.

6579
06:04:27,200 --> 06:04:30,960
Marco Rubio was talking about this yesterday, Secretary of State, and he got it wrong, which

6580
06:04:30,960 --> 06:04:31,960
is appalling.

6581
06:04:31,960 --> 06:04:36,960
Joe, let me put that right there, that he didn't seem to know what the two different systems

6582
06:04:36,960 --> 06:04:38,560
were.

6583
06:04:38,560 --> 06:04:43,000
And I'm no tech person but I can read as well as the next person, right?

6584
06:04:43,000 --> 06:04:47,800
So Star Link is what we're all familiar with.

6585
06:04:47,800 --> 06:04:56,200
It is a communication system that is owned and operated by SpaceX, which is owned by Elon

6586
06:04:56,200 --> 06:04:59,960
Musk, the billionaire Elon Musk, who is shoveling money into this.

6587
06:05:00,000 --> 06:05:07,920
selection. The last, I knew the visible money we knew about was $366 million. So you know,

6588
06:05:07,920 --> 06:05:13,840
he desperately wants to keep Republicans in office, right? So that's kind of a weird conflict

6589
06:05:13,840 --> 06:05:17,520
of interest that the single guy that can be shutting down Ukraine's defensive capability is

6590
06:05:17,520 --> 06:05:21,760
also donating tons of money to keep the Republican in office who has invested interest in Ukraine,

6591
06:05:21,760 --> 06:05:30,960
not having their energy bombed. Hmm. Kind of weird. Linked system is what Ukraine is. And it's a

6592
06:05:30,960 --> 06:05:42,480
commercial system is what Ukraine uses to stop incoming missiles and drones that are coming into

6593
06:05:42,480 --> 06:05:49,680
Iran from Russia. So they use it in a defensive capability and they obviously use it for communications.

6594
06:05:51,120 --> 06:05:54,720
Star shield is the military side.

6595
06:05:56,720 --> 06:06:02,000
Fuck, I saw that reporting that said this that it came from Elon. The funniest thing I heard,

6596
06:06:02,960 --> 06:06:05,920
I heard I read this. I don't even know if it was a Twitter fucking Reddit coming or what.

6597
06:06:08,880 --> 06:06:14,400
It's something I read with somebody said, I bet Trump messaged Elon or told or talked to Elon

6598
06:06:14,400 --> 06:06:17,920
and he was like, you got to shut the fucking Starling down. Shut fuck these motherfucking Ukrainians

6599
06:06:17,920 --> 06:06:22,160
that are fucking my Russia oil shit up. You just shut it down immediately. And so Elon, like a good

6600
06:06:22,160 --> 06:06:31,360
little lap dog, listened to him. But the problem is that Ukraine only uses the, I think it's Star

6601
06:06:31,360 --> 06:06:37,360
Link, I believe. They only use that to defend against Shahids and other types of stuff coming

6602
06:06:37,360 --> 06:06:42,960
things coming from Russia. They don't use it to do strikes into Russia. So if that was Trump's goal

6603
06:06:42,960 --> 06:06:48,480
or Elon's goal was to hurt the Ukrainian offensive capability, I don't think it actually matters

6604
06:06:48,480 --> 06:06:54,400
because they don't use those systems to launch attacks, which is funny. It's stupid. Dumbfucks.

6605
06:06:55,280 --> 06:07:01,920
If that and that's what the United States military uses as well. Star shield is what Ukraine used

6606
06:07:01,920 --> 06:07:07,680
for offensive drones. Is that true? And what that means is that for the drones to operate,

6607
06:07:07,680 --> 06:07:13,040
to go where they're supposed to go, they have to have an operator and that operator communicates

6608
06:07:13,040 --> 06:07:18,240
with them through these communication satellite communication systems. Now, what happened was,

6609
06:07:18,240 --> 06:07:23,760
I believe it was last Tuesday night, although don't quote me, I certainly wrote about this or

6610
06:07:23,760 --> 06:07:32,480
you could Google it's either Tuesday or Wednesday. All of a sudden, in the middle of operations and

6611
06:07:32,480 --> 06:07:38,160
in the middle of one of the worst nights of bombardment in the entire four years of this war,

6612
06:07:38,160 --> 06:07:45,120
going on five years of this war, it started in 22, February of 22, and we're up to 23, 24, 25,

6613
06:07:45,120 --> 06:07:52,560
26, we're coming up to February of 27, February of 27. In the middle of one of the worst bombardments

6614
06:07:52,560 --> 06:07:56,240
of the war, all of a sudden the Ukrainians are operating their drones, right? They're trying to

6615
06:07:56,240 --> 06:08:03,120
keep the missiles out of Ukraine and they're trying to retaliate with offensive missiles.

6616
06:08:03,120 --> 06:08:06,560
By the way, I think that would be happening right now also, if this was a real country,

6617
06:08:06,560 --> 06:08:12,400
which is not, is there would be an immediate investigation to figure out if anybody in Russia

6618
06:08:12,400 --> 06:08:18,400
was tipped off. Because if they were, that would be a, in my mind, that would be an immediate trigger

6619
06:08:18,400 --> 06:08:24,320
to seize that entire corporate asset or whatever from Elon. If the people are getting tipped off

6620
06:08:24,320 --> 06:08:29,120
in enemy countries related to national defense shit, that would be crazy. But who knows?

6621
06:08:29,120 --> 06:08:36,240
All of a sudden the system doesn't work. The system slows down and it slows down. You'll

6622
06:08:36,240 --> 06:08:42,800
see these numbers. It slows down to anything over 160 kilometers an hour. They lose contact

6623
06:08:42,800 --> 06:08:49,120
with the drones and that translates in miles per hour to about 100 miles an hour. So they're

6624
06:08:49,120 --> 06:08:53,600
operating in the middle of a bombardment and all of a sudden they can't communicate with their drones.

6625
06:08:54,400 --> 06:08:58,960
No warning or anything. And this came after a couple days in which the United States had not

6626
06:08:58,960 --> 06:09:06,160
been communicating information to the Iranians, I'm sorry, the Ukrainians either. And the US of

6627
06:09:06,160 --> 06:09:14,960
course has a phenomenal satellite system and is very good at intelligence operations. And they

6628
06:09:14,960 --> 06:09:20,880
refused to tell the Ukrainians when there were missiles coming in from Russia. And so in the

6629
06:09:20,880 --> 06:09:24,800
midst of all this, all of a sudden everything stops. Not stops. They lose control of it.

6630
06:09:25,600 --> 06:09:31,760
And so they're horrified and they're furious, right? What on earth is going on here? And you

6631
06:09:31,760 --> 06:09:36,160
could see this on social media if you happen to be on social media at that time, which unfortunately

6632
06:09:36,160 --> 06:09:45,040
I was. But the next day, as this starts to play out, everyone's like, who did this? What happened?

6633
06:09:45,040 --> 06:09:51,520
Right? And about in the afternoon, I shouldn't give you a time. In the afternoon of the next day,

6634
06:09:51,520 --> 06:09:58,400
Elon Musk, who of course owns these systems, although both of them are subscription services for

6635
06:09:58,400 --> 06:10:00,080
for which it appears polar.

6636
06:10:00,000 --> 06:10:03,920
and is paying for the Ukrainians.

6637
06:10:03,920 --> 06:10:07,360
Go by.

6638
06:10:07,360 --> 06:10:09,600
Musk comes out, and he says, well, ultimately this

6639
06:10:09,600 --> 06:10:11,520
was a decision that was up to the president of the United

6640
06:10:11,520 --> 06:10:12,960
States, because at first, everyone's

6641
06:10:12,960 --> 06:10:16,840
like, Musk did this, because he had done it before in 2022.

6642
06:10:16,840 --> 06:10:19,260
And that is quite well established.

6643
06:10:19,260 --> 06:10:21,160
Last time I said this, somebody said, no, no, no,

6644
06:10:21,160 --> 06:10:21,840
that was always hoax.

6645
06:10:21,840 --> 06:10:22,640
It was not a hoax.

6646
06:10:22,640 --> 06:10:23,760
You can look it up.

6647
06:10:23,760 --> 06:10:26,840
There was an exclusive report from three reporters,

6648
06:10:26,840 --> 06:10:29,280
I think, with the Associated Press off the top of my head

6649
06:10:29,280 --> 06:10:36,040
in 2020, the article came out, I believe, in 2025

6650
06:10:36,040 --> 06:10:37,760
that was definitive about that.

6651
06:10:37,760 --> 06:10:39,760
I wrote about that a week or more ago.

6652
06:10:39,760 --> 06:10:42,120
But anyway, he'd done it before, so everybody

6653
06:10:42,120 --> 06:10:43,000
seemed it was Musk.

6654
06:10:43,000 --> 06:10:45,440
And then Musk came out that afternoon

6655
06:10:45,440 --> 06:10:47,800
and said, ultimately, this is a decision that

6656
06:10:47,800 --> 06:10:50,080
was up to the president of the United States.

6657
06:10:50,080 --> 06:10:53,520
And then Trump and Musk, for days,

6658
06:10:53,520 --> 06:10:55,440
were like passed on the buck back and forth.

6659
06:10:55,440 --> 06:10:57,400
Like, it wasn't me, it wasn't me, it wasn't me.

6660
06:10:57,400 --> 06:11:00,080
And then Trump says, well, it wasn't either one of us.

6661
06:11:00,080 --> 06:11:01,480
And I don't even think it happened anyway,

6662
06:11:01,480 --> 06:11:03,600
there wasn't such a thing.

6663
06:11:03,600 --> 06:11:07,680
Well, Congress critters have gotten on the phone now

6664
06:11:07,680 --> 06:11:10,160
with Zelensky, the president of Ukraine.

6665
06:11:10,160 --> 06:11:13,440
And he's like, we still don't have capabilities back.

6666
06:11:13,440 --> 06:11:17,560
And then what happened just before I came on today

6667
06:11:17,560 --> 06:11:21,280
was an article has dropped in the Wall Street Journal.

6668
06:11:21,280 --> 06:11:23,000
And the Wall Street Journal, by the way,

6669
06:11:23,000 --> 06:11:25,160
the editorial page tends to be loopy.

6670
06:11:25,160 --> 06:11:27,840
All of us changing a lot these days.

6671
06:11:27,840 --> 06:11:32,680
But the Wall Street Journal's reporters are fabulous.

6672
06:11:32,680 --> 06:11:35,600
Now, I will say, the Wall Street Journal is really expensive.

6673
06:11:35,600 --> 06:11:36,840
It's like crazy expensive.

6674
06:11:36,840 --> 06:11:40,280
So unless you can get it through a university or something,

6675
06:11:40,280 --> 06:11:43,640
you may want to just see what other--

6676
06:11:43,640 --> 06:11:46,320
invariably, once it ups a story, other people

6677
06:11:46,320 --> 06:11:47,880
pick it up pretty quickly.

6678
06:11:47,880 --> 06:11:51,040
But one of the people that I always watch--

6679
06:11:51,040 --> 06:11:52,600
if he writes a story, I read it--

6680
06:11:52,600 --> 06:11:56,360
is Josh Dossie, who writes now for the Wall Street Journal.

6681
06:11:56,360 --> 06:11:57,960
He was else would be for that.

6682
06:11:57,960 --> 06:12:00,160
His name is on this story.

6683
06:12:00,160 --> 06:12:01,880
And as I said to you before, when you're

6684
06:12:01,880 --> 06:12:04,920
looking at important stories, look for multiple bylines.

6685
06:12:04,920 --> 06:12:06,440
If there are a bunch of names on it,

6686
06:12:06,440 --> 06:12:09,240
this is something that turned out to be a really big deal.

6687
06:12:09,240 --> 06:12:11,760
And people are throwing a lot of resources behind it.

6688
06:12:11,760 --> 06:12:13,760
And this is a three-person story.

6689
06:12:13,760 --> 06:12:14,760
Three people.

6690
06:12:14,760 --> 06:12:18,320
And what they dropped today at 438

6691
06:12:18,320 --> 06:12:24,520
was that it was Musk who ordered Starlink to slow down.

6692
06:12:24,520 --> 06:12:30,680
And in the article itself, it's that a number of the sources

6693
06:12:30,680 --> 06:12:35,400
who are administration officials to whom the reporters talked

6694
06:12:35,400 --> 06:12:37,560
said that Trump was not included.

6695
06:12:37,560 --> 06:12:39,520
One of them said he was included.

6696
06:12:39,520 --> 06:12:44,240
But there was something else interesting far down in this piece.

6697
06:12:44,240 --> 06:12:49,720
And that was when they talked to different people

6698
06:12:49,720 --> 06:12:51,400
about what had happened.

6699
06:12:51,400 --> 06:12:53,480
Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegzith,

6700
06:12:53,480 --> 06:13:00,480
said on Tuesday, which is, I guess, today,

6701
06:13:00,480 --> 06:13:06,360
and I quote from this article, "We haven't pulled anything back."

6702
06:13:06,360 --> 06:13:07,120
But--

6703
06:13:07,120 --> 06:13:07,640
But--

6704
06:13:07,640 --> 06:13:10,720
Next quote, "Starlink has the option

6705
06:13:10,720 --> 06:13:15,800
to make decisions concerning its terms of service."

6706
06:13:15,800 --> 06:13:18,440
And then he said, "We haven't made any directives

6707
06:13:18,440 --> 06:13:19,280
or anything like that."

6708
06:13:19,280 --> 06:13:21,520
Now, that's all I know.

6709
06:13:21,520 --> 06:13:25,880
But boy, doesn't that sound as if Musk and Hegzith

6710
06:13:25,880 --> 06:13:29,800
and possibly other people in the Oval Office simply said,

6711
06:13:29,800 --> 06:13:32,320
hey, we can just say this is about terms of service,

6712
06:13:32,320 --> 06:13:38,840
which, by the way, is what Musk has said, things like that

6713
06:13:38,840 --> 06:13:39,680
before.

6714
06:13:39,680 --> 06:13:42,520
And we can accomplish what we want

6715
06:13:42,520 --> 06:13:47,440
without having any kind of accusations of trying

6716
06:13:47,440 --> 06:13:50,160
to hurt the war effort.

6717
06:13:50,160 --> 06:13:52,360
I'm guessing that's not going to fly, by the way.

6718
06:13:52,360 --> 06:13:57,520
I'm not a lawyer, but this is taking America's foreign policy

6719
06:13:57,520 --> 06:13:58,760
into your own hands.

6720
06:13:58,760 --> 06:14:01,000
And that's not a good direction.

6721
06:14:01,000 --> 06:14:02,560
That'd be crazy.

6722
06:14:02,560 --> 06:14:04,680
These people are absolutely playing with fire.

6723
06:14:04,680 --> 06:14:07,320
And of course, the Ukrainians have died over this.

6724
06:14:07,320 --> 06:14:11,320
And this does not reflect the bipartisan agreement

6725
06:14:11,320 --> 06:14:14,880
of Congress that the United States must be supplying Ukraine.

6726
06:14:14,880 --> 06:14:17,520
For the simple reason that Ukraine is holding the dam back

6727
06:14:17,520 --> 06:14:20,800
from Russia wanting to take Ukraine, take its resources,

6728
06:14:20,800 --> 06:14:23,800
and continue to spread into other countries, especially

6729
06:14:23,800 --> 06:14:26,440
countries that are protected by the North Atlantic Treaty

6730
06:14:26,440 --> 06:14:29,240
Organization, which will involve everybody

6731
06:14:29,240 --> 06:14:33,440
because of Article 5 of NATO, which says that if one NATO

6732
06:14:33,440 --> 06:14:37,240
country is attacked, others will follow.

6733
06:14:37,240 --> 06:14:40,000
So that's really red hot.

6734
06:14:40,000 --> 06:14:41,920
This article that says, yeah, it was Musk.

6735
06:14:41,920 --> 06:14:44,800
And he just said he was changing the terms of service.

6736
06:14:44,800 --> 06:14:47,800
And expect that that's going to blow up over the next couple

6737
06:14:47,800 --> 06:14:48,720
of days, by the way.

6738
06:14:48,720 --> 06:14:51,480
But I want to go in a little bit of a different direction.

6739
06:14:51,480 --> 06:14:53,080
And I hope this is interesting to you all.

6740
06:14:53,080 --> 06:14:55,200
Because I might write about this tonight.

6741
06:14:55,200 --> 06:14:57,600
It's the weirdest time to be a historian,

6742
06:14:57,600 --> 06:15:01,600
because you know, you know, it's a great thing.

6743
06:15:00,000 --> 06:15:09,160
know that the period in which we are living is just historic every single day and it's

6744
06:15:09,160 --> 06:15:15,160
just really weird to be in it and to be trying to focus on it as it's whizzing by you. Anyway,

6745
06:15:15,160 --> 06:15:18,900
I don't really want to keep going with that because there's something else huge about

6746
06:15:18,900 --> 06:15:26,160
this that is getting some play but not as much as it should. And this is not rocket science.

6747
06:15:26,160 --> 06:15:36,760
If you are any nation in the world who has relied on the United States for military support

6748
06:15:36,760 --> 06:15:44,280
or on the United States for communications through Starlink, what are you going to do?

6749
06:15:44,280 --> 06:15:49,080
And the answer to that is you're going to develop your own systems. What? Yes, you're

6750
06:15:49,080 --> 06:15:54,120
going to put these things together as fast as you can. And that's exactly what Europe

6751
06:15:54,120 --> 06:15:58,560
and Canada are doing is they're coming together to create their own satellite systems so they

6752
06:15:58,560 --> 06:16:04,040
can leave Musk in the dust. They can just walk away from SpaceX, which has prompted the

6753
06:16:04,040 --> 06:16:10,920
administration to threaten that anybody who walks away from SpaceX can be expected to run

6754
06:16:10,920 --> 06:16:16,680
against the administration in other ways. But it's a no brainer. And the same thing with

6755
06:16:16,680 --> 06:16:20,920
any kind of military supplies to say to the United States, thanks but no thanks because

6756
06:16:20,920 --> 06:16:27,720
if you can simply decide you're going to turn things off or if you can decide as the Ukrainians

6757
06:16:27,720 --> 06:16:31,920
are saying now that the United States is not delivering weaponry that has been promised

6758
06:16:31,920 --> 06:16:38,800
and paid for, you can't trust the United States any longer to do that. And why does that matter?

6759
06:16:38,800 --> 06:16:45,080
It matters a lot in terms of American policies overseas. What?

6760
06:16:45,080 --> 06:16:55,840
F-35s, if you remember, we were trying to sell F-35s all to our allies. And then Trump,

6761
06:16:55,840 --> 06:17:02,400
for some fucking idiotic reason, was trying to argue that we needed to install software

6762
06:17:02,400 --> 06:17:10,240
on all the F-35s that were selling to our allies to able to remotely deactivate them.

6763
06:17:10,240 --> 06:17:15,480
In case, for whatever reason, he wanted to be able to remotely deactivate them. And the

6764
06:17:15,480 --> 06:17:22,680
consequence was completely fucking obvious in which no one bought F-35s. I think Canada

6765
06:17:22,680 --> 06:17:25,520
canceled half their orders and they bought rip-ins instead.

6766
06:17:25,520 --> 06:17:29,640
Sounds like they wanted to use them against the United States.

6767
06:17:29,640 --> 06:17:37,160
Yeah, they must have. Let's see how they concluded.

6768
06:17:37,160 --> 06:17:47,000
And again, I don't have an answer to this, but remember, one of the things that Eisenhower

6769
06:17:47,000 --> 06:17:52,960
was upset about was the degree to which our political system had become tied to the military

6770
06:17:52,960 --> 06:17:57,920
industrial complex, which by the way, when he first wrote that, he wrote a military industrial

6771
06:17:57,920 --> 06:18:02,960
congressional complex and his aides made him take out the word congressional, but military

6772
06:18:02,960 --> 06:18:08,360
industrial complex, many of our states, and I'm looking at you, Mississippi, and to some

6773
06:18:08,360 --> 06:18:14,520
degree Maine as well, and certainly other states, depend on their defense contracts

6774
06:18:14,520 --> 06:18:17,440
in order to keep their economies afloat.

6775
06:18:17,440 --> 06:18:25,280
So one of the reasons we have such an extraordinarily bloated military budget is because in a way,

6776
06:18:25,280 --> 06:18:34,520
it's kind of make work for places that need jobs. And if we are no longer going to be

6777
06:18:34,520 --> 06:18:44,200
supplying the rest of the world as we have been, what happens to that industrial complex?

6778
06:18:44,200 --> 06:18:52,000
You know, what happens when all the drones, which are very, very cheap, take over for,

6779
06:18:52,000 --> 06:18:55,440
you know, battles, those battleships that Trump wants to build are going to be sitting

6780
06:18:55,440 --> 06:19:04,000
docks. And that is a game changer. And it could be a game changer for good. I mean, many

6781
06:19:04,000 --> 06:19:08,580
of us have not liked that military industrial complex for a very long time. And we could

6782
06:19:08,580 --> 06:19:13,400
use that money and energy to go toward other things, building things that are actually

6783
06:19:13,400 --> 06:19:20,000
good for society the way Eisenhower wanted to schools, for example, he talked about or,

6784
06:19:20,000 --> 06:19:27,160
or roads or, you know, taking care of the people in our own country. But it's, it is

6785
06:19:27,160 --> 06:19:34,560
just an astonishing self own on the part of somebody like Elon Musk to think that he

6786
06:19:34,560 --> 06:19:41,520
can cut off Starlink to people in the middle of a war and then think or slow it down, not

6787
06:19:41,520 --> 06:19:46,900
cut it off, which was the effect was largely the same in those circumstances. And then

6788
06:19:46,900 --> 06:19:54,040
expect that people are going to continue to use it. And that downstream effect of what

6789
06:19:54,040 --> 06:20:24,040
happens then to SpaceX and what happens then to the military and

6790
06:20:00,000 --> 06:20:06,640
complex, speaking of October surprises. I mean, it's not going to happen tomorrow, obviously,

6791
06:20:06,640 --> 06:20:12,480
although Europeans and other countries are already scrambling to say we've got to find a way to

6792
06:20:12,480 --> 06:20:18,560
to get rid of SpaceX or to get rid of Starlink. But I mean, in terms of going forward and

6793
06:20:18,560 --> 06:20:23,920
thinking of possibilities, what do we want to make of that? I just, I just, as I say,

6794
06:20:24,720 --> 06:20:29,680
it's a game changer. The, the, if you're going to write a history of this era, you're going to

6795
06:20:29,680 --> 06:20:34,640
write about the rise of drone warfare, which is going to change everything all around the world.

6796
06:20:34,640 --> 06:20:42,160
And you're going to write about Musk as Icarus, right, flying too close to the sun because it certainly

6797
06:20:42,160 --> 06:20:49,840
seems like he just demonstrated to the whole world why you can't trust it. Anyway, to go on from that,

6798
06:20:50,560 --> 06:20:56,560
you asked if Congress can stop that from happening. That's a really good question. Congress is on a

6799
06:20:56,560 --> 06:21:01,440
bipartisan basis, furious, and claiming that they're going to push back against what

6800
06:21:03,040 --> 06:21:11,600
Musk has done and what the administration is doing. But remember, Ukraine is being bombarded

6801
06:21:11,600 --> 06:21:19,840
now. People are dying now. And with Trump waving the sanctions for selling oil on the global market,

6802
06:21:19,840 --> 06:21:27,200
all of a sudden Putin's got money to put more and more money into weaponry. And the question is how

6803
06:21:27,200 --> 06:21:33,520
long Ukraine can hang on under those circumstances? Now, the flip side of that is that Trump, I'm sorry,

6804
06:21:34,320 --> 06:21:37,920
Putin wouldn't need this kind of support if he were winning, like he's on the ropes,

6805
06:21:37,920 --> 06:21:41,920
which is why he has pulled out all the stops to get Trump to come onto his side.

6806
06:21:42,640 --> 06:21:48,560
So can Congress stop it? Congress can certainly try, but they're not in session right now. They're

6807
06:21:48,560 --> 06:21:53,600
not going to be in session until after the midterms. And I don't know if you if you saw on social media,

6808
06:21:54,560 --> 06:22:00,720
this this to me aside, I mean, just don't even start me on the list of how angry I am about this.

6809
06:22:01,280 --> 06:22:06,640
But in terms aside from anything else, even if you don't care about Ukraine, any of those things,

6810
06:22:07,440 --> 06:22:15,200
as I keep saying, the primary function of a government is to keep its people safe. Like,

6811
06:22:15,200 --> 06:22:19,920
obviously, I anyway want the government to do a lot more than that. But literally that's job one.

6812
06:22:20,640 --> 06:22:25,840
If you cannot do that, you are not going to be a viable government. And the fact that Congress

6813
06:22:25,840 --> 06:22:34,400
is not doing something now to reverse this destruction of the system that held us safe

6814
06:22:35,200 --> 06:22:42,160
for close to a century is to my mind an extraordinary dereliction of duty. And somebody,

6815
06:22:43,200 --> 06:22:47,920
a political published an article today saying, you know, Republicans are really frustrated because

6816
06:22:47,920 --> 06:22:51,840
they don't want Trump to do this and there's nothing they can do. And I kind of exploded on

6817
06:22:51,840 --> 06:22:59,360
social media and said, literally, there's a blueprint for what to do. It's to impeach him and to convict

6818
06:22:59,360 --> 06:23:05,360
him. And they could do it before the end of the week, if they wanted to. And the answer to

6819
06:23:05,360 --> 06:23:08,560
Johnson, Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House and John Thune,

6820
06:23:09,360 --> 06:23:16,880
Senate Majority Leader, not calling him into Congress, go stand on the steps of the Capitol,

6821
06:23:16,880 --> 06:23:21,920
get the news people out there and say to them, we're going to stand here and we're going to scream

6822
06:23:21,920 --> 06:23:26,720
about this until they call us back into session, because he is making the United States of America

6823
06:23:26,720 --> 06:23:34,720
vulnerable to attack for our future, because he has torn apart this extraordinary defensive

6824
06:23:36,720 --> 06:23:42,800
alliance that has kept us safe for close to a century. And the fact that everybody is sort of

6825
06:23:43,680 --> 06:23:48,640
saying, Oh boy, we don't like this. I mean, again, I'm exaggerating. They are expressing

6826
06:23:49,920 --> 06:23:56,400
that they aren't happy. They say they're going to pass new laws. And I'm saying, it's not just about

6827
06:23:56,400 --> 06:24:06,240
that. It's about keeping the United States safe. And Trump is absolutely opening us up to extraordinarily

6828
06:24:06,960 --> 06:24:12,880
dangerous vulnerabilities. And they should be out they should be screaming in the streets about that.

6829
06:24:12,880 --> 06:24:16,560
And you know, somebody would say that the American people should be too. Yes,

6830
06:24:17,360 --> 06:24:22,720
except in the scheme of things, the only people who right now can do something are members of

6831
06:24:22,720 --> 06:24:28,160
Congress. And the only people in Congress who can do something are the Republicans. So I'm I don't

6832
06:24:28,160 --> 06:24:33,760
want to hear about how upset they are that they have no power, because they are literally the only

6833
06:24:33,760 --> 06:24:39,040
people in this country who have the power to do something. And standing there saying,

6834
06:24:39,600 --> 06:24:46,240
wish I could do something is not cutting it for me. All right, I will get off that and go on a

6835
06:24:46,240 --> 06:24:53,360
little bit longer to talk about some of the other things you asked about. You asked me to talk about

6836
06:24:53,360 --> 06:24:59,920
the rise of the right rank, the right wing around the world and emphasize I'm an Americanist.

6837
06:25:00,000 --> 06:25:04,760
and by the way that doesn't just mean I'm an American historian. Historians are

6838
06:25:04,760 --> 06:25:09,780
trained in their doctoral programs to do comparative work among at least three

6839
06:25:09,780 --> 06:25:17,680
different countries. I am not trained as that kind of a historian. On the breaking

6840
06:25:17,680 --> 06:25:22,080
news, CBS News has confirmed that Elon Musk made the decision that led to

6841
06:25:22,080 --> 06:25:27,480
restrictions on Ukraine's use of SpaceX's satellite communications network. The

6842
06:25:27,480 --> 06:25:32,080
satellite service which is used for drone operations, hitting certain targets and

6843
06:25:32,080 --> 06:25:37,200
protecting sites in Ukraine, was slowed significantly last week. Musk held

6844
06:25:37,200 --> 06:25:41,920
multiple conversations with administration officials leading up to the order. He

6845
06:25:41,920 --> 06:25:45,720
wanted clarity on the president's thinking on the matter. Musk has

6846
06:25:45,720 --> 06:25:49,520
expressed his taste with his company being seen as profiting from the

6847
06:25:49,520 --> 06:25:55,040
continued war between Russia and Ukraine. President Trump, who was asked who

6848
06:25:55,040 --> 06:25:58,860
ordered the slowdown last week.

6849
06:26:12,800 --> 06:26:17,880
It's not clear how Musk's order to curtail service was executed. Zelensky

6850
06:26:17,880 --> 06:26:21,200
said service had not been restored early Tuesday, though a White House

6851
06:26:21,200 --> 06:26:25,280
official disputed that claim.

6852
06:26:30,800 --> 06:26:36,580
Girlfriend realizes she just murdered her boyfriend. Who you want?

6853
06:26:37,440 --> 06:26:42,200
San Antonio police. This is Christie. How can I help you? What I was calling to

6854
06:26:42,200 --> 06:26:46,680
find out with you guys. I'm in Louisiana but I have a senatorial and San Antonio

6855
06:26:46,680 --> 06:26:50,480
and family members have been trying to call him and we don't make any

6856
06:26:50,480 --> 06:26:52,880
response back and we wanted to know if you guys could do a wellness check

6857
06:26:52,880 --> 06:26:56,200
based on the address and see if everything's okay with him because no

6858
06:26:56,200 --> 06:26:59,280
text messages, return, no phone calls, no Instagram and we just wanted to make

6859
06:26:59,280 --> 06:27:01,840
sure he's okay because they're in different states. Who are we checking

6860
06:27:01,840 --> 06:27:07,720
on? Martell M-A-R-T-E-L-L-A-R-O-U-D-N.

6861
06:27:07,720 --> 06:27:11,720
How long has it been since you've been heard from? I think that Saturday was

6862
06:27:11,720 --> 06:27:14,320
older brotherhood in London, he's in Air Force in London and I think he said

6863
06:27:14,320 --> 06:27:16,560
he spoke with him Saturday and that's the last anybody other you spoke to him.

6864
06:27:16,560 --> 06:27:21,920
Okay, we will go ahead and get someone to do a buffer check for you.

6865
06:27:21,920 --> 06:27:25,160
Officers from the San Antonio police department are dispatched to 34-year-old

6866
06:27:25,160 --> 06:27:29,280
Martell to ruins apartments on the northwest side of the city. We could find

6867
06:27:29,280 --> 06:27:35,000
him. He's a smart sales unit from the leasing office. Then he and his partner

6868
06:27:35,000 --> 06:27:49,880
head to Martell's apartment. Whoa! Was that an alien motion detector?

6869
06:27:53,040 --> 06:27:57,240
The bullet hole is directly above the people. To officers it's an ominous sign.

6870
06:27:57,240 --> 06:28:00,400
Yeah, I mean to most people I think they would probably say that it's pretty

6871
06:28:00,400 --> 06:28:09,520
ominous. Why is that so funny? I don't know.

6872
06:28:19,480 --> 06:28:28,340
Officers. Sorry, it was a fast knocking. It was just okay. Recruit some health.

6873
06:28:31,120 --> 06:28:34,040
And while they wait for assistance they check to see if Martell's car is on

6874
06:28:34,040 --> 06:28:36,320
site.

6875
06:28:38,160 --> 06:28:41,240
Get an apple.

6876
06:28:48,640 --> 06:28:52,920
Back at Martell's apartments the maintenance team arrives.

6877
06:29:00,920 --> 06:29:05,160
Unfortunately officers instincts are right. Martell is inside his apartment.

6878
06:29:05,160 --> 06:29:09,520
No! It's a giant black box. Hey Ray this is officer on a working 7-2-10 and we

6879
06:29:09,520 --> 06:29:13,680
have a kind of emergency map here in 260 district. The individual was an

6880
06:29:13,680 --> 06:29:16,240
answering his door and the stepmom kept calling since how did they haven't

6881
06:29:16,240 --> 06:29:19,280
heard from him. And then the door we can see a bullet hole in. And so maintenance

6882
06:29:19,280 --> 06:29:22,320
came out here throughout the hole, drill out the lock. And as soon as you walk in

6883
06:29:22,320 --> 06:29:26,880
he's right down the floor. That's a rough wellness check Jesus.

6884
06:29:26,880 --> 06:29:31,360
And when I put the door you would go. Homicide detectives arrive at the scene

6885
06:29:31,360 --> 06:29:36,800
and perform a sweep of the apartment, which is in shambles. Martell's bed frame is

6886
06:29:36,800 --> 06:29:40,880
broken. And on top of his mattress detectives spot another side of a struggle.

6887
06:29:40,880 --> 06:29:45,800
A broken acrylic fingernail. Inside Martell's closet detectives also clock an

6888
06:29:45,800 --> 06:29:51,240
empty gun case. Could Martell's missing gun be the murder weapon? As detectives

6889
06:29:51,240 --> 06:29:54,040
continue their analysis of the crime scene a woman approaches one of the

6890
06:29:54,040 --> 06:30:00,240
officers stationed outside.

6891
06:30:00,000 --> 06:30:01,520
- You're not able to get in?

6892
06:30:01,520 --> 06:30:03,080
- Yeah, yes ma'am, there's some officers up there,

6893
06:30:03,080 --> 06:30:04,200
but it's basically just stay down here

6894
06:30:04,200 --> 06:30:05,520
and I'm gonna go talk to the office, okay?

6895
06:30:05,520 --> 06:30:06,360
- So we can't go up there?

6896
06:30:06,360 --> 06:30:07,880
- No, right, now, we're gonna have to just,

6897
06:30:07,880 --> 06:30:09,640
I understand, we're just running everything to you,

6898
06:30:09,640 --> 06:30:10,480
what's going on, okay?

6899
06:30:10,480 --> 06:30:11,320
- Okay, I have his mom on the phone.

6900
06:30:11,320 --> 06:30:13,120
- Okay, all right, she live here in San Antonio?

6901
06:30:13,120 --> 06:30:13,960
- Oh, she's in Dallas.

6902
06:30:13,960 --> 06:30:15,800
- Okay, all right, so if you could just stand by down here,

6903
06:30:15,800 --> 06:30:16,640
I'm gonna go talk to the other.

6904
06:30:16,640 --> 06:30:17,480
Who stays in that apartment?

6905
06:30:17,480 --> 06:30:18,320
- It's just him, I'm so--

6906
06:30:18,320 --> 06:30:19,320
- That's it, just him, you don't have nobody else

6907
06:30:19,320 --> 06:30:20,160
on the lease or anything like that?

6908
06:30:20,160 --> 06:30:43,320
- No, he doesn't, okay, all right, okay, let me let you off,

6909
06:30:43,320 --> 06:30:50,320
come on, come on, come on, come on, I need to get your information,

6910
06:30:50,320 --> 06:30:51,320
do you live here?

6911
06:30:51,320 --> 06:30:52,320
- No, we're separated.

6912
06:30:52,320 --> 06:30:53,320
- Oh, you're all separate, any kids?

6913
06:30:53,320 --> 06:30:54,320
- Is there anybody else in San Antonio?

6914
06:30:54,320 --> 06:30:55,320
- No, nobody else is in there.

6915
06:30:55,320 --> 06:30:58,320
- No way, she did a killer and she showed up,

6916
06:30:58,320 --> 06:30:59,320
why would you do that?

6917
06:30:59,320 --> 06:31:00,320
- We'll wait too, bro.

6918
06:31:00,320 --> 06:31:01,320
- Bro.

6919
06:31:01,320 --> 06:31:02,320
- There's no way.

6920
06:31:02,320 --> 06:31:09,320
- I spoke to him on Friday, and then Thursday,

6921
06:31:09,320 --> 06:31:12,320
he came over to do his hair at my apartment

6922
06:31:12,320 --> 06:31:14,320
and lived by the dinner.

6923
06:31:14,320 --> 06:31:16,320
- Okay, so Friday you went here, nobody was here,

6924
06:31:16,320 --> 06:31:17,320
then you didn't come visit him, right?

6925
06:31:17,320 --> 06:31:19,320
- No, he was here, I know he was working with people

6926
06:31:19,320 --> 06:31:21,320
and doing music at all.

6927
06:31:21,320 --> 06:31:22,320
- Okay.

6928
06:31:22,320 --> 06:31:24,320
- Police learned that Martel was a rising star in the hip-hop

6929
06:31:24,320 --> 06:31:26,320
music world where he went by the stage name Cardone.

6930
06:31:26,320 --> 06:31:29,320
He even had ties to one of the music's biggest stars,

6931
06:31:29,320 --> 06:31:30,320
his cousin was Beyonce.

6932
06:31:30,320 --> 06:31:31,320
- Did you see her?

6933
06:31:31,320 --> 06:31:33,320
- She saw the cop cars, bro.

6934
06:31:33,320 --> 06:31:35,320
- Okay, I'll be right back with you now.

6935
06:31:35,320 --> 06:31:37,320
- She's having me in the area?

6936
06:31:37,320 --> 06:31:39,320
- She lives there, she lives both sides.

6937
06:31:39,320 --> 06:31:41,320
They love each other, they're lovers.

6938
06:31:41,320 --> 06:31:43,320
- Okay, next to the wife right there.

6939
06:31:43,320 --> 06:31:44,320
Next to the wife right there.

6940
06:31:44,320 --> 06:31:45,320
Next to the wife right there.

6941
06:31:45,320 --> 06:31:46,320
- Should we live here?

6942
06:31:46,320 --> 06:31:47,320
- No.

6943
06:31:47,320 --> 06:31:48,320
- They said they're ready right now.

6944
06:31:48,320 --> 06:31:49,320
- Take a look.

6945
06:31:49,320 --> 06:31:50,320
- Ooh.

6946
06:31:50,320 --> 06:31:51,320
- As detectives arrange for Martel's wife Joya

6947
06:31:51,320 --> 06:31:52,320
to be taken to the police station for questioning.

6948
06:31:52,320 --> 06:31:53,320
- Okay, we'll come talk to you.

6949
06:31:53,320 --> 06:31:54,320
- Okay, he says suspect number one.

6950
06:31:54,320 --> 06:31:56,320
- They're informed that just four days ago,

6951
06:31:56,320 --> 06:31:58,320
on the night of Friday, January 22nd, 911,

6952
06:31:58,320 --> 06:32:00,320
received another call about Martel.

6953
06:32:00,320 --> 06:32:04,320
- San Antonio 911, this is for a uni police fire or EMS.

6954
06:32:04,320 --> 06:32:05,320
- I need police now.

6955
06:32:05,320 --> 06:32:06,320
- Okay, what's going on?

6956
06:32:06,320 --> 06:32:08,320
- I'm trying to get in my apartment,

6957
06:32:08,320 --> 06:32:09,320
but I'm not able to get in.

6958
06:32:09,320 --> 06:32:12,320
And I see, like, I'm just not able to get in.

6959
06:32:12,320 --> 06:32:14,320
And I think my husband is injured.

6960
06:32:14,320 --> 06:32:16,320
- Your husband's hurt?

6961
06:32:16,320 --> 06:32:17,320
- Yes.

6962
06:32:17,320 --> 06:32:19,320
- Do you hear him?

6963
06:32:19,320 --> 06:32:20,320
- No, he's not responding.

6964
06:32:20,320 --> 06:32:21,320
And I called him.

6965
06:32:21,320 --> 06:32:23,320
And he's just not responding.

6966
06:32:23,320 --> 06:32:25,320
And there's a hole in his door.

6967
06:32:25,320 --> 06:32:27,320
And I don't know what's going on.

6968
06:32:27,320 --> 06:32:28,320
- There's a hole in the door?

6969
06:32:28,320 --> 06:32:29,320
- What?

6970
06:32:29,320 --> 06:32:30,320
- Yes.

6971
06:32:30,320 --> 06:32:31,320
- Are you outside the apartment?

6972
06:32:31,320 --> 06:32:32,320
Or where are you?

6973
06:32:32,320 --> 06:32:33,320
- I'm outside the door, and I cannot get in.

6974
06:32:33,320 --> 06:32:34,320
- And you don't have a key?

6975
06:32:34,320 --> 06:32:35,320
- No, ma'am, I don't.

6976
06:32:35,320 --> 06:32:40,320
- Do you live there?

6977
06:32:40,320 --> 06:32:41,320
- Yes, I do.

6978
06:32:41,320 --> 06:32:42,320
- And what is your name?

6979
06:32:42,320 --> 06:32:44,320
- My name is Joya Duran.

6980
06:32:44,320 --> 06:32:46,320
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6981
06:32:46,320 --> 06:32:48,320
to eye Joya suspiciously.

6982
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6995
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6996
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6997
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6998
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6999
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7000
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7002
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7003
06:33:19,320 --> 06:33:23,320
But at the police station, Joya insists she never made that call.

7004
06:33:23,320 --> 06:33:26,320
She swears until today she hadn't been to Martell's apartments

7005
06:33:26,320 --> 06:33:27,320
in weeks.

7006
06:33:27,320 --> 06:33:28,320
- Uh oh.

7007
06:33:28,320 --> 06:33:29,320
- You know what?

7008
06:33:29,320 --> 06:33:30,320
I have a photo shoot that weekend.

7009
06:33:30,320 --> 06:33:31,320
I can tell you exactly the date.

7010
06:33:31,320 --> 06:33:32,320
Sorry, just over 26.

7011
06:33:32,320 --> 06:33:34,320
- So Saturday, is it different than you were there?

7012
06:33:34,320 --> 06:33:35,320
- Yeah, my photographer.

7013
06:33:35,320 --> 06:33:36,320
I had a photo shoot that same day

7014
06:33:36,320 --> 06:33:38,320
and I thought I would drop the air mattress off after I was done.

7015
06:33:38,320 --> 06:33:39,320
- Oh, okay.

7016
06:33:39,320 --> 06:33:40,320
- Yeah, so.

7017
06:33:40,320 --> 06:33:41,320
- So before her course today,

7018
06:33:41,320 --> 06:33:43,320
what was the last time we spoke to Martell?

7019
06:33:43,320 --> 06:33:44,320
- Friday.

7020
06:33:44,320 --> 06:33:45,320
- Friday, so that was the 22nd.

7021
06:33:45,320 --> 06:33:46,320
- Oh my God.

7022
06:33:46,320 --> 06:33:48,320
They were fighting.

7023
06:33:48,320 --> 06:33:50,320
She shot through the door in anger

7024
06:33:50,320 --> 06:33:52,320
because she's crazy.

7025
06:33:52,320 --> 06:33:54,320
He stopped responding.

7026
06:33:54,320 --> 06:33:56,320
And then she realized,

7027
06:33:56,320 --> 06:33:58,320
"Oh fuck, I killed him."

7028
06:33:58,320 --> 06:33:59,320
That's what happened.

7029
06:33:59,320 --> 06:34:00,320
They got in a fight inside.

7030
06:34:00,320 --> 06:34:01,320
She left and she did like one of those like,

7031
06:34:01,320 --> 06:34:02,320
you know, when you're running away from someone,

7032
06:34:02,320 --> 06:34:04,320
you shoot once just to, you know,

7033
06:34:04,320 --> 06:34:06,320
on the off chance you get them.

7034
06:34:06,320 --> 06:34:07,320
- Hey, there's a man.

7035
06:34:07,320 --> 06:34:08,320
- He caught the bomb.

7036
06:34:08,320 --> 06:34:09,320
- He caught the bomb.

7037
06:34:09,320 --> 06:34:10,320
- He touched me.

7038
06:34:10,320 --> 06:34:11,320
- You still have the text on the bomb?

7039
06:34:11,320 --> 06:34:12,320
- Absolutely.

7040
06:34:12,320 --> 06:34:13,320
- You're my brother.

7041
06:34:13,320 --> 06:34:14,320
- Okay.

7042
06:34:14,320 --> 06:34:15,320
- Okay.

7043
06:34:15,320 --> 06:34:16,320
- Okay.

7044
06:34:16,320 --> 06:34:18,320
- They'll just bring us agencies as well.

7045
06:34:18,320 --> 06:34:19,320
- So.

7046
06:34:19,320 --> 06:34:20,320
- They can scroll.

7047
06:34:20,320 --> 06:34:21,320
- They can scroll.

7048
06:34:21,320 --> 06:34:22,320
- So Friday, 1-3-5.

7049
06:34:22,320 --> 06:34:23,320
- After that text,

7050
06:34:23,320 --> 06:34:25,320
Joy says she didn't hear from Martell all weekend.

7051
06:34:25,320 --> 06:34:27,320
- So you didn't think it was uncommon for him

7052
06:34:27,320 --> 06:34:28,320
to not reach out to you?

7053
06:34:28,320 --> 06:34:29,320
- Yeah.

7054
06:34:29,320 --> 06:34:30,320
It wasn't uncommon for him to reach out to not reach out to me.

7055
06:34:30,320 --> 06:34:32,320
But when his parents call and things,

7056
06:34:32,320 --> 06:34:33,320
that is when the concern is.

7057
06:34:33,320 --> 06:34:34,320
So if he doesn't answer them,

7058
06:34:34,320 --> 06:34:35,320
then they'll call me and like,

7059
06:34:35,320 --> 06:34:36,320
"Hey, have you talked to him?

7060
06:34:36,320 --> 06:34:37,320
Or can you try to reach out to him?"

7061
06:34:37,320 --> 06:34:38,320
And I said, "I don't know if they want here."

7062
06:34:38,320 --> 06:34:39,320
And I said, "I don't know."

7063
06:34:39,320 --> 06:34:41,320
Because his stuff out there has cancer.

7064
06:34:41,320 --> 06:34:43,320
So if he doesn't answer them,

7065
06:34:43,320 --> 06:34:44,320
then they know something's wrong.

7066
06:34:44,320 --> 06:34:46,320
- Joy says when Martell's family reached out to her

7067
06:34:46,320 --> 06:34:48,320
this morning and said he'd gone radio silent on them,

7068
06:34:48,320 --> 06:34:50,320
she advised them to call the police.

7069
06:34:50,320 --> 06:34:53,320
- And if we call 9-1 to get the cops over there.

7070
06:34:53,320 --> 06:34:54,320
- Call the cops.

7071
06:34:54,320 --> 06:34:55,320
What is it?

7072
06:34:55,320 --> 06:34:56,320
What are their lives like?

7073
06:34:56,320 --> 06:34:57,320
They're like, "Oh, he's not picking up?"

7074
06:34:57,320 --> 06:34:59,840
I just got nine one wanted in yeah, you know

7075
06:35:00,000 --> 06:35:03,020
- Just go ahead and give the emergency.

7076
06:35:03,020 --> 06:35:05,600
Yeah, I had none on one just to make sure.

7077
06:35:05,600 --> 06:35:06,440
What's happening here?

7078
06:35:06,440 --> 06:35:07,280
- Did anyone show up?

7079
06:35:07,280 --> 06:35:08,100
- What?

7080
06:35:08,100 --> 06:35:08,940
- That's what I'm wondering.

7081
06:35:08,940 --> 06:35:09,780
Like you call 911.

7082
06:35:09,780 --> 06:35:11,960
You say, yeah, I think my husband might be injured.

7083
06:35:11,960 --> 06:35:14,720
There's a hole in my door and no one shows up to

7084
06:35:14,720 --> 06:35:16,720
like a wellness checker or anything.

7085
06:35:16,720 --> 06:35:17,560
- Oh yeah.

7086
06:35:17,560 --> 06:35:18,380
I don't know what was going on with that.

7087
06:35:18,380 --> 06:35:19,480
That sounds crazy.

7088
06:35:19,480 --> 06:35:20,320
Yeah.

7089
06:35:21,280 --> 06:35:22,840
- I said I called the apartment complex.

7090
06:35:22,840 --> 06:35:23,680
They can't do a wellness check.

7091
06:35:23,680 --> 06:35:24,800
It has to be the police.

7092
06:35:24,800 --> 06:35:26,760
And then if it's something, you know,

7093
06:35:26,760 --> 06:35:28,160
if it's something went wrong, then they can get a key.

7094
06:35:28,160 --> 06:35:30,680
But I think she called the non-emergency numbers.

7095
06:35:30,680 --> 06:35:31,600
- And then of course when you get there,

7096
06:35:31,600 --> 06:35:33,280
what do you see?

7097
06:35:33,280 --> 06:35:37,080
- Three police cars and like a fire truck.

7098
06:35:37,080 --> 06:35:39,240
And then I was like, just tell me what's going on.

7099
06:35:39,240 --> 06:35:40,760
Did you guys get in or what's happening?

7100
06:35:40,760 --> 06:35:42,800
The only thing that they said to me was that

7101
06:35:42,800 --> 06:35:44,000
they were able to get in.

7102
06:35:44,000 --> 06:35:45,120
And I can't tell you anything else

7103
06:35:45,120 --> 06:35:45,960
'cause there's doctors getting here.

7104
06:35:45,960 --> 06:35:46,800
'Cause there's doctors weren't there at that point.

7105
06:35:46,800 --> 06:35:48,200
- Yeah, okay.

7106
06:35:48,200 --> 06:35:50,440
And what kind of relationship or marriage did you guys have?

7107
06:35:50,440 --> 06:35:51,280
- It was great.

7108
06:35:51,280 --> 06:35:53,040
We had a lot in common and we both loved music.

7109
06:35:53,040 --> 06:35:55,680
I did a little music as well and things like that.

7110
06:35:55,680 --> 06:35:57,280
Towards the end, I would say the last two years

7111
06:35:57,280 --> 06:36:01,040
kind of when it got rocky, Martel was having issues

7112
06:36:01,040 --> 06:36:02,360
from when he was in a military place,

7113
06:36:02,360 --> 06:36:05,120
suffering with depression and anxiety and things like that.

7114
06:36:05,120 --> 06:36:08,520
And so his moods and personality kind of changed.

7115
06:36:08,520 --> 06:36:12,000
And so when I was, I remember going to,

7116
06:36:12,000 --> 06:36:13,160
all of a disappointment with him at the day,

7117
06:36:13,160 --> 06:36:14,280
a hospital, things like that.

7118
06:36:14,280 --> 06:36:17,840
And sometimes I can get a little mean and stuff.

7119
06:36:17,840 --> 06:36:20,320
So not to mention that with the music stuff,

7120
06:36:20,320 --> 06:36:21,920
I really didn't like some of the people

7121
06:36:21,920 --> 06:36:23,760
that he worked with kind of shady.

7122
06:36:24,760 --> 06:36:27,400
But other than that, it wasn't any major thing

7123
06:36:27,400 --> 06:36:28,880
and just we decided to go as every ways.

7124
06:36:28,880 --> 06:36:30,600
He wanted to go off and do a song thing

7125
06:36:30,600 --> 06:36:33,640
and felt like he wasn't able to give the relationship

7126
06:36:33,640 --> 06:36:34,640
as much attention.

7127
06:36:34,640 --> 06:36:36,200
And I was like, okay, well, that's fine.

7128
06:36:36,200 --> 06:36:38,200
- And then she 360 no stuff at the door.

7129
06:36:38,200 --> 06:36:41,200
- Like the separation, she and Martel remained on good terms.

7130
06:36:41,200 --> 06:36:43,160
Even after Martel started seeing someone new.

7131
06:36:43,160 --> 06:36:44,160
- Ooh.

7132
06:36:44,160 --> 06:36:45,160
- What's that girl's name?

7133
06:36:45,160 --> 06:36:46,320
- It's Sasha.

7134
06:36:46,320 --> 06:36:48,200
- Sasha S.A.J.

7135
06:36:48,200 --> 06:36:49,560
- I just call her Dumb Bitch.

7136
06:36:49,560 --> 06:36:51,280
- My name's Scare, S-K-A-R-E.

7137
06:36:51,280 --> 06:36:52,120
- S-K-A-R-E?

7138
06:36:52,120 --> 06:36:53,160
You know what she is?

7139
06:36:53,160 --> 06:36:54,520
- She's pretty young, maybe 20.

7140
06:36:54,520 --> 06:36:57,600
- Oh, no, not a young, oh, no.

7141
06:36:57,600 --> 06:36:58,440
She a white girl?

7142
06:36:58,440 --> 06:36:59,440
Don't let her be white.

7143
06:36:59,440 --> 06:37:00,840
If she's white, that's why she died.

7144
06:37:00,840 --> 06:37:01,680
Or that's why that guy died.

7145
06:37:01,680 --> 06:37:02,520
- I'm not sure.

7146
06:37:02,520 --> 06:37:04,040
In the beginning, it was more of like a teacher,

7147
06:37:04,040 --> 06:37:05,440
student type relationship where he was trying

7148
06:37:05,440 --> 06:37:08,120
to develop her music and all that stuff like that.

7149
06:37:08,120 --> 06:37:09,880
But I know she was around for maybe like six months.

7150
06:37:09,880 --> 06:37:10,800
- It's grooming her.

7151
06:37:10,800 --> 06:37:13,000
- Joya says from Martel told her she and Sasha

7152
06:37:13,000 --> 06:37:14,640
had an on-again off-again relationship.

7153
06:37:14,640 --> 06:37:15,480
- Okay.

7154
06:37:15,480 --> 06:37:16,320
- Not a white girl.

7155
06:37:16,320 --> 06:37:17,160
- I broke it off.

7156
06:37:17,160 --> 06:37:18,240
How did that make you feel, did it make you feel jealous?

7157
06:37:18,240 --> 06:37:20,240
- No, I don't necessarily get jealous.

7158
06:37:20,240 --> 06:37:23,720
It was just more or less, it was for me and more

7159
06:37:23,720 --> 06:37:25,640
of the issues that he was not trying to deal with

7160
06:37:25,640 --> 06:37:26,480
versus another woman.

7161
06:37:26,480 --> 06:37:28,680
Like his mental issues, making sure that he keeps

7162
06:37:28,680 --> 06:37:30,480
up with his appointments, his medications and things like that.

7163
06:37:30,480 --> 06:37:31,760
And then being aggressive towards me

7164
06:37:31,760 --> 06:37:32,760
because he's not managing that.

7165
06:37:32,760 --> 06:37:34,480
That was a human issue for me of why we broke up in.

7166
06:37:34,480 --> 06:37:37,680
- Okay, at this point, we have been separated

7167
06:37:37,680 --> 06:37:40,000
like almost two years, so yeah.

7168
06:37:40,000 --> 06:37:40,840
- You're kind of over it.

7169
06:37:40,840 --> 06:37:42,960
You're kind of at that point in two years at one time.

7170
06:37:44,800 --> 06:37:47,760
Is there anything else that you can think of that obviously,

7171
06:37:47,760 --> 06:37:49,320
do you know him?

7172
06:37:49,320 --> 06:37:50,400
We're trying to get to know.

7173
06:37:50,400 --> 06:37:51,240
Trying to get to know the circumstances

7174
06:37:51,240 --> 06:37:52,200
and anything you can think of.

7175
06:37:52,200 --> 06:37:54,320
- I would definitely find his home.

7176
06:37:54,320 --> 06:37:55,960
His fault is his life.

7177
06:37:55,960 --> 06:37:58,360
- Joya seems cooperative, but that suspicious

7178
06:37:58,360 --> 06:38:00,640
Friday night 911 call has detectives questioning

7179
06:38:00,640 --> 06:38:01,640
whether she's telling the truth.

7180
06:38:01,640 --> 06:38:02,480
- Uh oh.

7181
06:38:02,480 --> 06:38:04,680
- But then a police canvas of Martell's apartment complex

7182
06:38:04,680 --> 06:38:06,320
yields a monumental piece of evidence.

7183
06:38:06,320 --> 06:38:07,160
- Oh no.

7184
06:38:07,160 --> 06:38:08,800
- One of Martell's neighbors has a ring camera.

7185
06:38:08,800 --> 06:38:09,640
- Oh no!

7186
06:38:09,640 --> 06:38:11,640
- And the footage shifts the investigation into overdrive.

7187
06:38:11,640 --> 06:38:13,520
On Friday night, just before 9 p.m.,

7188
06:38:13,520 --> 06:38:15,280
gunfire can be heard coming from the direction

7189
06:38:15,280 --> 06:38:16,400
of Martell's apartment.

7190
06:38:18,960 --> 06:38:21,080
Seconds later, a woman is seen walking down the hallway

7191
06:38:21,080 --> 06:38:22,440
with a gun in her hand.

7192
06:38:22,440 --> 06:38:23,280
- Oh no!

7193
06:38:23,280 --> 06:38:25,240
- That she walks back towards Martell's apartment now.

7194
06:38:26,800 --> 06:38:27,640
- Bra!

7195
06:38:29,840 --> 06:38:31,400
- The next time she's captured on camera,

7196
06:38:31,400 --> 06:38:32,840
she can be heard talking to someone on the phone.

7197
06:38:32,840 --> 06:38:34,440
- That's how you know.

7198
06:38:34,440 --> 06:38:36,400
That's how you know your neighborhood is fucked too.

7199
06:38:36,400 --> 06:38:38,080
It's 'cause this motherfucker is shooting any apartment complex

7200
06:38:38,080 --> 06:38:39,640
and nobody calls the cops.

7201
06:38:39,640 --> 06:38:42,200
Nobody even thinks to go, "Oh my God."

7202
06:38:45,960 --> 06:38:47,160
- After analyzing the footage,

7203
06:38:47,160 --> 06:38:48,840
detectives realized the woman in the video

7204
06:38:48,840 --> 06:38:50,400
was the one who placed that suspicious night.

7205
06:38:50,400 --> 06:38:51,240
- No!

7206
06:38:51,240 --> 06:38:52,520
- Only she's not.

7207
06:38:52,520 --> 06:38:54,600
- I mean, don't stand behind the wall-bankable object.

7208
06:38:54,600 --> 06:38:55,720
- One year old, Sasha Scar.

7209
06:38:55,720 --> 06:38:56,560
- More on.

7210
06:38:56,560 --> 06:38:58,880
- And they realized Sasha gave the 911 operator

7211
06:38:58,880 --> 06:38:59,920
the wrong apartment number,

7212
06:38:59,920 --> 06:39:01,480
which explains why the responding officers

7213
06:39:01,480 --> 06:39:03,520
never saw the bullet hole in Martell's door

7214
06:39:03,520 --> 06:39:05,400
and didn't investigate further.

7215
06:39:05,400 --> 06:39:07,520
With Sasha Scar as their new prime suspect,

7216
06:39:07,520 --> 06:39:09,760
detectives obtain Martell's cell phone records.

7217
06:39:09,760 --> 06:39:11,040
And they find another clue,

7218
06:39:11,040 --> 06:39:12,520
a text message he sent to Sasha

7219
06:39:12,520 --> 06:39:14,600
just minutes before he was killed.

7220
06:39:14,600 --> 06:39:15,440
- That text?

7221
06:39:15,440 --> 06:39:16,960
- Bring my gun, oh no!

7222
06:39:16,960 --> 06:39:18,120
Why did he say that?

7223
06:39:18,120 --> 06:39:18,960
No!

7224
06:39:21,400 --> 06:39:24,520
- Message further solidifies detective's theory

7225
06:39:24,520 --> 06:39:26,280
about what led to Martell's murder.

7226
06:39:26,280 --> 06:39:28,640
Martell and Sasha got into a fight

7227
06:39:28,640 --> 06:39:30,520
and he told her to leave.

7228
06:39:30,520 --> 06:39:32,960
In a rage, Sasha grabbed Martell's gun

7229
06:39:32,960 --> 06:39:35,120
and stormed out of his apartment.

7230
06:39:35,120 --> 06:39:37,760
When he texted her and told her to bring his gun back.

7231
06:39:37,760 --> 06:39:39,240
- She's like, "I'll bring your gun back."

7232
06:39:39,240 --> 06:39:40,080
- She's like, "I'll bring your gun back."

7233
06:39:40,080 --> 06:39:42,880
- "Damn, no shots!"

7234
06:39:42,880 --> 06:39:45,200
- And it turns out Sasha has a history of violence.

7235
06:39:45,200 --> 06:39:47,080
In 2019, she and a previous boyfriend

7236
06:39:47,080 --> 06:39:49,720
were involved in a drug deal gone wrong in Austin, Texas.

7237
06:39:50,480 --> 06:39:52,800
Her boyfriend was shot and killed out on there, too.

7238
06:39:52,800 --> 06:39:54,520
And Sasha went on the lamb.

7239
06:39:54,520 --> 06:39:56,280
- We currently have a female, a black female,

7240
06:39:56,280 --> 06:39:57,240
about a name of Sasha Scare,

7241
06:39:57,240 --> 06:39:58,840
and we've provided you with a public flyer.

7242
06:39:58,840 --> 06:40:00,000
- Her last name is Scare, bro.

7243
06:40:00,000 --> 06:40:02,920
Like, what more wanted you need?

7244
06:40:02,920 --> 06:40:07,560
- She was eventually apprehended and arrested.

7245
06:40:07,560 --> 06:40:09,680
Records indicate she is currently out on bond,

7246
06:40:09,680 --> 06:40:11,200
awaiting trial.

7247
06:40:11,200 --> 06:40:13,160
San Antonio police immediately issue a warrant

7248
06:40:13,160 --> 06:40:14,400
for Sasha's arrest.

7249
06:40:14,400 --> 06:40:17,000
Then call in the US marshals to help them track her down.

7250
06:40:19,000 --> 06:40:21,680
Weeks go by, and while Sasha evades arrest,

7251
06:40:21,680 --> 06:40:24,200
Martell's loved ones gather to say their goodbyes.

7252
06:40:24,200 --> 06:40:26,040
That his funeral, family, friends, and colleagues

7253
06:40:26,040 --> 06:40:27,840
recall his caring, humble nature,

7254
06:40:27,840 --> 06:40:29,920
his military accolades, and his determination

7255
06:40:29,920 --> 06:40:31,600
to make something of himself in the music industry

7256
06:40:31,600 --> 06:40:34,320
based on his talent, not his connections.

7257
06:40:36,360 --> 06:40:37,200
- Damn.

7258
06:40:37,200 --> 06:40:38,680
- The next day, after almost two weeks on the run,

7259
06:40:38,680 --> 06:40:41,440
Sasha Scar turns herself in and is charged with murder.

7260
06:40:42,560 --> 06:40:43,560
- I'll detect the size, San Antonio police.

7261
06:40:43,560 --> 06:40:44,400
- Oh, wait.

7262
06:40:44,400 --> 06:40:45,480
- On the side unit?

7263
06:40:45,480 --> 06:40:46,320
- Oh, no.

7264
06:40:46,320 --> 06:40:47,160
Oh, wait, wait, wait, I'm so sorry.

7265
06:40:47,160 --> 06:40:48,800
Sasha, that's the new girlfriend.

7266
06:40:51,360 --> 06:40:52,360
- Isn't, is it?

7267
06:40:53,760 --> 06:40:54,600
- Wait, are we--

7268
06:40:54,600 --> 06:40:55,440
- Oh, wait, it is the new girlfriend.

7269
06:40:55,440 --> 06:40:56,280
- Yeah, wait, what's happening?

7270
06:40:56,280 --> 06:40:57,120
Hold on.

7271
06:40:57,120 --> 06:40:57,960
Wait, is she--

7272
06:40:57,960 --> 06:40:59,600
- Is it Sasha's the new girl?

7273
06:40:59,600 --> 06:41:00,440
Hold on.

7274
06:41:01,560 --> 06:41:02,880
- Oh, he dumped the same--

7275
06:41:02,880 --> 06:41:03,720
Oh, I thought, hold on.

7276
06:41:03,720 --> 06:41:06,120
Oh my God, my brain just got mine fucked, hold on.

7277
06:41:06,120 --> 06:41:08,600
She, oh, oh, I thought it was the,

7278
06:41:08,600 --> 06:41:10,880
I thought it was the old girl that killed him out of jealousy.

7279
06:41:10,880 --> 06:41:12,040
Damn.

7280
06:41:12,040 --> 06:41:13,360
Oh, no.

7281
06:41:13,360 --> 06:41:15,360
- Eight time side, dude.

7282
06:41:15,360 --> 06:41:17,060
- Oh, man, not good.

7283
06:41:19,000 --> 06:41:19,840
- Gordon, my kill.

7284
06:41:19,840 --> 06:41:23,000
Okay, what I wanna do, the reason I'm here

7285
06:41:23,000 --> 06:41:23,840
is to give you an opportunity

7286
06:41:23,840 --> 06:41:25,800
to give you a sign of the story of what happened, okay?

7287
06:41:25,800 --> 06:41:27,040
We know the incident happened on the 22nd,

7288
06:41:27,040 --> 06:41:27,880
five to the 22nd.

7289
06:41:29,080 --> 06:41:31,080
So I wanted to give you the opportunity to tell me

7290
06:41:31,080 --> 06:41:32,080
your sign of the story of what happened.

7291
06:41:32,080 --> 06:41:32,920
- Yeah.

7292
06:41:32,920 --> 06:41:33,760
- Just confess.

7293
06:41:33,760 --> 06:41:35,080
- Not with all my believe words here.

7294
06:41:35,080 --> 06:41:35,920
- Okay.

7295
06:41:35,920 --> 06:41:36,760
- Oh, you have a turn?

7296
06:41:36,760 --> 06:41:37,600
- Seriously.

7297
06:41:37,600 --> 06:41:39,480
- You guys, scream, scream, scream, scream.

7298
06:41:39,480 --> 06:41:41,880
- I'm just gonna leave you in my card.

7299
06:41:41,880 --> 06:41:43,080
And if your attorney feels like you do need

7300
06:41:43,080 --> 06:41:44,400
to give a statement or would like to set something up

7301
06:41:44,400 --> 06:41:46,440
for you to give a statement to me.

7302
06:41:46,440 --> 06:41:47,280
- I would like to have this.

7303
06:41:47,280 --> 06:41:48,120
- No, I didn't.

7304
06:41:48,120 --> 06:41:49,240
Have him or her call me.

7305
06:41:49,240 --> 06:41:50,320
Okay, it says cell phone in the front,

7306
06:41:50,320 --> 06:41:52,640
that's actually my direct line to my desk, okay?

7307
06:41:52,640 --> 06:41:55,400
Have your attorney call me so we can set something up.

7308
06:41:55,400 --> 06:41:56,560
You know, whatever works for you.

7309
06:41:56,560 --> 06:41:57,560
They feel like you don't need to give a statement,

7310
06:41:59,560 --> 06:42:01,960
detectives never get a statement from Sasha,

7311
06:42:01,960 --> 06:42:03,960
but they do get one final piece of solid evidence.

7312
06:42:03,960 --> 06:42:04,800
- What's that?

7313
06:42:04,800 --> 06:42:06,240
- Testing confirms that Sasha's DNA

7314
06:42:06,240 --> 06:42:08,240
is on the broken fingernail found at the crime scene.

7315
06:42:08,240 --> 06:42:09,080
- Uh-oh.

7316
06:42:10,160 --> 06:42:11,920
- Despite the overwhelming evidence against her,

7317
06:42:11,920 --> 06:42:13,920
Sasha rejects a plea deal.

7318
06:42:13,920 --> 06:42:15,400
Two years after Martell's murder,

7319
06:42:15,400 --> 06:42:17,880
Sasha finally breaks her silence on the stand.

7320
06:42:17,880 --> 06:42:18,720
- Do you swear I work for him?

7321
06:42:18,720 --> 06:42:20,120
It doesn't mean you were about to give him the truth

7322
06:42:20,120 --> 06:42:22,160
but what you're gonna do with the truth?

7323
06:42:22,160 --> 06:42:23,200
- How many years before?

7324
06:42:26,640 --> 06:42:27,480
- What?

7325
06:42:30,080 --> 06:42:33,000
- It's a very versatile hair type, I'm not sure.

7326
06:42:33,000 --> 06:42:36,080
- Versatile hair type, she gained like a hundred pounds.

7327
06:42:36,080 --> 06:42:38,640
- Hey, it's two years, that's a long time.

7328
06:42:38,640 --> 06:42:39,480
- Jesus.

7329
06:42:39,480 --> 06:42:40,320
- How's murder?

7330
06:42:40,320 --> 06:42:41,160
Sasha finally breaks.

7331
06:42:41,160 --> 06:42:42,640
- Where did he feed him in those prisons?

7332
06:42:42,640 --> 06:42:44,080
- Her silence on the stand.

7333
06:42:44,080 --> 06:42:45,080
- Do you swear I work for him?

7334
06:42:45,080 --> 06:42:46,400
It doesn't mean you're gonna have to give him the truth.

7335
06:42:46,400 --> 06:42:49,720
- How many years before, January, 2000, when did you know

7336
06:42:49,720 --> 06:42:50,560
Martell?

7337
06:42:50,560 --> 06:42:52,120
- I don't think so.

7338
06:42:52,120 --> 06:42:56,160
- How many years before January, 2000, when did you know

7339
06:42:56,160 --> 06:42:57,000
Martell?

7340
06:42:57,000 --> 06:42:58,920
- I don't think so.

7341
06:42:58,920 --> 06:43:01,680
- I would say we met in 2017, 2016.

7342
06:43:01,680 --> 06:43:03,120
- How old have you been back then?

7343
06:43:03,120 --> 06:43:04,280
- 17.

7344
06:43:04,280 --> 06:43:07,040
- How did you come to meet that, Martell?

7345
06:43:07,040 --> 06:43:10,560
- One day, he had messaged me on Instagram

7346
06:43:10,560 --> 06:43:13,040
and requested if I could be in one of his music videos.

7347
06:43:13,040 --> 06:43:16,080
- At some point, they used Martell's relationship

7348
06:43:16,080 --> 06:43:19,360
to move on to business and come work with him.

7349
06:43:19,360 --> 06:43:20,840
- Um, we--

7350
06:43:20,840 --> 06:43:21,680
- Immediately.

7351
06:43:21,680 --> 06:43:22,600
- So you're becoming really close friends

7352
06:43:22,600 --> 06:43:27,600
after about two years, we became close.

7353
06:43:28,080 --> 06:43:28,920
We was hanging out a lot.

7354
06:43:28,920 --> 06:43:32,040
We was like going out together, going out to eat

7355
06:43:32,040 --> 06:43:32,880
and stuff like that.

7356
06:43:32,880 --> 06:43:34,200
- Mmm.

7357
06:43:34,200 --> 06:43:36,120
- Did you think Martell ever have a dating

7358
06:43:36,120 --> 06:43:38,160
or any kind of sexual relationship with each other?

7359
06:43:38,160 --> 06:43:39,000
- Yes, we did.

7360
06:43:39,000 --> 06:43:39,840
- Uh oh.

7361
06:43:39,840 --> 06:43:42,840
- Let's start talking about the property

7362
06:43:42,840 --> 06:43:46,080
of January, but I don't think so.

7363
06:43:46,080 --> 06:43:47,280
Where were you that day?

7364
06:43:49,080 --> 06:43:50,880
- I was in his apartment killing him.

7365
06:43:50,880 --> 06:43:52,560
- I mean, I was at my mom's house.

7366
06:43:52,560 --> 06:43:54,720
And Martell picked me up.

7367
06:43:54,720 --> 06:43:58,360
And we ended up going to San Antonio to his apartment.

7368
06:43:58,360 --> 06:43:59,200
- How did it start out?

7369
06:43:59,200 --> 06:44:01,080
What did you all do when you arrived?

7370
06:44:01,080 --> 06:44:03,080
- Well, we were planning for some shows

7371
06:44:03,080 --> 06:44:03,920
we had the next day.

7372
06:44:03,920 --> 06:44:06,960
And we initially agreed to come together

7373
06:44:06,960 --> 06:44:10,960
to work on an upcoming show that we planned to have

7374
06:44:10,960 --> 06:44:12,160
at a different date.

7375
06:44:12,160 --> 06:44:16,000
So with all that going on,

7376
06:44:16,000 --> 06:44:17,400
we were just agreed to come together

7377
06:44:17,400 --> 06:44:18,720
to work on all of it together.

7378
06:44:18,720 --> 06:44:21,240
- Okay, so you said, you were working on a show

7379
06:44:21,240 --> 06:44:22,760
that you had a following date,

7380
06:44:22,760 --> 06:44:24,120
and a few shows that were going to be later on?

7381
06:44:24,120 --> 06:44:24,960
- Yes.

7382
06:44:24,960 --> 06:44:25,800
- Okay.

7383
06:44:27,800 --> 06:44:30,120
Did you all have dinner that day or lunch or anything?

7384
06:44:30,120 --> 06:44:31,600
- I made dinner, yes.

7385
06:44:31,600 --> 06:44:32,880
- According to Sasha, after dinner,

7386
06:44:32,880 --> 06:44:34,560
she and Martell watched a movie.

7387
06:44:34,560 --> 06:44:35,640
- Aw. - And then she went to bed.

7388
06:44:35,640 --> 06:44:36,480
- Aw.

7389
06:44:36,480 --> 06:44:39,040
- After you lay down with that, what happened next?

7390
06:44:39,040 --> 06:44:41,120
- I was getting ready to go to sleep.

7391
06:44:41,120 --> 06:44:42,360
I was going on my phone,

7392
06:44:42,360 --> 06:44:44,480
and Martell came into the room and turns like.

7393
06:44:44,480 --> 06:44:45,840
- What happened next?

7394
06:44:45,840 --> 06:44:47,240
- She had awaited a little bit longer.

7395
06:44:47,240 --> 06:44:49,560
She was like, then I started to have a hallucination

7396
06:44:49,560 --> 06:44:51,720
and it was telling me that I have to kill him right now.

7397
06:44:51,720 --> 06:44:52,560
It's just kidding.

7398
06:44:52,560 --> 06:44:53,680
- And I just asked him why not.

7399
06:44:53,680 --> 06:44:55,120
- I think they watched obsession.

7400
06:44:58,520 --> 06:44:59,960
- Um, yes, why did they say it?

7401
06:45:00,000 --> 06:45:06,120
Nothing I remember if I don't remember what he said. I know that we ended up getting into an argument. Oh, you had an argument? Yes

7402
06:45:10,000 --> 06:45:13,760
Yes, okay if you recall what was he saying?

7403
06:45:14,800 --> 06:45:19,800
He was upset because he felt like I was on the phone with another man. Oh

7404
06:45:21,760 --> 06:45:23,760
Did this

7405
06:45:27,160 --> 06:45:32,960
Determination, yes, Sasha says she broke free from Martell and grabbed his gun

7406
06:45:36,960 --> 06:45:38,960
Tell him

7407
06:45:42,840 --> 06:45:49,800
And why we fear for your life because up until the bed had broke he was still hitting me and I was unable to breathe

7408
06:45:55,400 --> 06:45:58,960
After you grabbed 11 what happened next I

7409
06:46:00,080 --> 06:46:04,640
Don't touch me. I started backing up out of the bedroom when I backed up out of the bedroom

7410
06:46:04,640 --> 06:46:07,240
He started following me. I started grabbing

7411
06:46:08,120 --> 06:46:11,240
I started grabbing dishes out of the cabinets and doing it in between us

7412
06:46:14,440 --> 06:46:20,880
Under the dishes I got broken I had to go over the kitchen counter and that's when I just ran outside the door

7413
06:46:26,240 --> 06:46:32,420
Yes, I did Sasha says she tried calling some friends for help then she returns to Martell's apartment to get her things

7414
06:46:35,120 --> 06:46:37,120
I was knocking on the door

7415
06:46:41,160 --> 06:46:43,240
So I shot just to be just a check

7416
06:46:55,440 --> 06:46:57,880
Sasha says that's when the gun accidentally went off

7417
06:47:26,400 --> 06:47:31,360
After the gun went off Sasha tells the courtroom. She called 911 and then fled the scene

7418
06:47:46,000 --> 06:47:49,520
Unless there's camera footage. I actually believe this I feel like

7419
06:47:50,160 --> 06:47:54,340
She might have just got really unlucky unless there's like footage or something of them shouting it to the door

7420
06:47:54,340 --> 06:47:57,960
Cuz what are the chances that's like a crit like I feel like she was trying to shoot and kill him

7421
06:47:57,960 --> 06:48:01,720
I feel like it would have been more than one shot. No, I feel like that was like just the most unlucky bullshit in the world

7422
06:48:02,200 --> 06:48:04,120
Obviously, she should have been knocking under the door of the gun

7423
06:48:04,120 --> 06:48:08,840
But to just one tap wall bang insta killed the guy on the other end. That's crazy

7424
06:48:10,080 --> 06:48:12,080
It's not impossible

7425
06:48:12,080 --> 06:48:18,120
And especially I think it would matter what weapon like what type of firearm and I'm just saying there's a lucky

7426
06:48:18,120 --> 06:48:21,240
Like the direction and they ain't the fact that she managed to one shot kill the dude

7427
06:48:21,760 --> 06:48:23,760
But like I don't know

7428
06:48:24,680 --> 06:48:27,040
On cross-examination the prosecution challenges

7429
06:48:28,480 --> 06:48:33,520
How does one bang on the door with a firearm and then you just like knock like

7430
06:48:33,760 --> 06:48:35,360
now

7431
06:48:35,360 --> 06:48:39,600
Well, and then like kill and then like shoot into the door and like kill them like

7432
06:48:39,600 --> 06:48:44,640
But I feel like if you're banging on the door with a firearm would it be like aimed up like a pistol

7433
06:48:45,200 --> 06:48:50,520
Or like is the barrel towards the door and that's like you're like stabbing the door and that's how you're knocking on

7434
06:48:50,720 --> 06:48:55,000
That'd be my guess is you're just like bang bang bang or whatever, which is obviously fucking retarded, but

7435
06:48:56,880 --> 06:48:58,880
Accidents

7436
06:48:58,880 --> 06:49:01,880
My last moments I would feel like a guy

7437
06:49:03,760 --> 06:49:09,520
Like can you imagine like the door shut you get like a shot through the door and like in your last meds

7438
06:49:09,520 --> 06:49:14,560
It's like similar to like getting killed by a hacker and see us go you're like how the fuck did he get me?

7439
06:49:16,200 --> 06:49:24,000
It had to have been an instant it had to have been like a headshot spine shot like an instant kill right because otherwise

7440
06:49:24,000 --> 06:49:29,760
He would have been making noise unless unless he was and she heard and she just ignored it and then nobody else heard it. I guess I

7441
06:49:31,320 --> 06:49:33,320
Don't know

7442
06:49:46,200 --> 06:49:50,480
And if you're banging on the door normal way like this

7443
06:49:57,880 --> 06:49:59,880
True

7444
06:50:00,000 --> 06:50:05,360
how can I help you wait that was it wait did I push something oh I'm gonna

7445
06:50:05,360 --> 06:50:10,460
click and make it work sorry wait on the breaking news CBS News is

7446
06:50:10,460 --> 06:50:14,780
concerned if any police this is Chrissy how can I help after the gun went off

7447
06:50:14,780 --> 06:50:18,340
Sasha tells the courtroom she called 911 I would have where just don't get in the

7448
06:50:18,340 --> 06:50:25,900
dumpster as you were banging on the door I would say they were just like this

7449
06:50:25,900 --> 06:50:44,960
oh actually wait yeah never mind wait I completely changed my mind maybe somebody

7450
06:50:44,960 --> 06:50:48,160
in chat said she dumped the gun the dummy the gun makes you look really really

7451
06:50:48,160 --> 06:50:52,000
suspicious because why are you dumbing the gun unless you assume you hit him

7452
06:50:52,000 --> 06:50:56,440
unless she freaked out just like maybe I did but why not well she did call 911 I

7453
06:50:56,440 --> 06:51:01,640
go I don't know hmm

7454
06:51:01,640 --> 06:51:05,100
we just scared and don't want to get hit with her and

7455
06:51:05,100 --> 06:51:29,580
facing into the door you bad two years to practice this testimony two years

7456
06:51:29,580 --> 06:51:38,460
she's gone Sasha's 911 call also comes under scrutiny

7457
06:51:38,460 --> 06:51:55,340
I lied about my identity yes two days later on August 31st 2023 Sasha scar

7458
06:51:55,340 --> 06:52:01,180
learns her fate damn in 2021 diabetes versus Sasha that's a good go go go go

7459
06:52:01,180 --> 06:52:04,680
guilty find the defendant Sasha scar guilty of the offense of murder as

7460
06:52:04,680 --> 06:52:08,380
charged in the indictment signed the four person of the grand jury in a

7461
06:52:08,380 --> 06:52:11,860
powerful moment before her sentencing Martell to ruin sister addresses Sasha

7462
06:52:11,860 --> 06:52:20,180
on behalf of their family fuck you bitch

7463
06:52:20,180 --> 06:52:25,420
you deserve every single consequence that you call us for your own actions nothing in the world

7464
06:52:25,420 --> 06:52:29,980
yes I will ever go unanswered remember that look at what you've done you got it

7465
06:52:29,980 --> 06:52:34,380
everyone together of your own selfishness just if you let the person you truly in

7466
06:52:34,380 --> 06:52:39,220
exactly are how does it feel you deserve this the time is up and the time has

7467
06:52:39,220 --> 06:52:44,500
taught you to pay for what you've done she said death's not she said death's not

7468
06:52:44,500 --> 06:52:58,700
in the end Sasha scar is sentenced to 55 years in prison and though Martell to

7469
06:52:58,700 --> 06:53:02,260
ruin's life was violently cut short his legacy forever lives on through his

7470
06:53:02,260 --> 06:53:05,340
family and his music

7471
06:53:05,340 --> 06:53:16,800
damn you ask for the artist sure he makes a good stuff why would they at least like

7472
06:53:16,800 --> 06:53:21,300
play one of his songs that's what I'm saying I was kind of curious it's not like it's

7473
06:53:21,300 --> 06:53:33,300
gonna DMC am this matter much I'm a professor Dave come in now there's like

7474
06:53:33,300 --> 06:53:39,660
10 more minutes about on this video but we're just gonna all right what up

7475
06:53:39,660 --> 06:53:44,780
professor Dave what's happening unlock your mic real quick I can't believe

7476
06:53:44,780 --> 06:53:48,780
this is real all right this is it right speaking to a real check test test test

7477
06:53:48,780 --> 06:53:54,740
okay perfect professor Dave is in the building everybody what is okay well I'm

7478
06:53:54,740 --> 06:53:57,660
looking at the different camera angles there's so some of them are not that's

7479
06:53:57,660 --> 06:54:01,220
whatever it is what it is all right most Italian looking man ever presser Dave

7480
06:54:01,220 --> 06:54:05,060
for you up there I brought you here as a debate you actually okay let's do it

7481
06:54:05,060 --> 06:54:08,580
yeah what's done with vaccines make woke autistic and gay yeah which are all

7482
06:54:08,580 --> 06:54:11,540
good things what's what's your response I mean I think they're for everyone

7483
06:54:11,540 --> 06:54:13,940
they're further woken the gay and for the anti-woken the straight and the and

7484
06:54:13,940 --> 06:54:17,260
everything yeah to make them all woken gay okay and I'm just big that's fair I

7485
06:54:17,260 --> 06:54:22,300
mean at how many we got that fair all right debate over I think yeah he looks

7486
06:54:22,300 --> 06:54:26,140
more Muslim than you dog yeah because he's Italian I do I well yeah how it goes

7487
06:54:26,140 --> 06:54:28,660
I'm a little ambiguous I've been told I've been a lot of people guess a lot of

7488
06:54:28,660 --> 06:54:31,020
different things really what do they say what can skew a little bit Middle Eastern

7489
06:54:31,020 --> 06:54:34,060
it can skew Armenian Lebanese it can get all the way over there in Los Angeles

7490
06:54:34,060 --> 06:54:37,440
I can see our main for sure yeah or Middle Eastern in general I'm clearly

7491
06:54:37,440 --> 06:54:39,380
just from anywhere that touches the Mediterranean Sea we're not sure

7492
06:54:39,380 --> 06:54:42,860
technically yeah no it makes sense it makes sense you're hold on would you say

7493
06:54:42,860 --> 06:54:49,780
you're I'm gay and Lebanese we have we have a very serious I had hold my lap

7494
06:54:49,780 --> 06:54:55,020
today to can't interrupt their other conversation I'm wearing a suit but you

7495
06:54:55,020 --> 06:54:58,260
know it's not someone say he looks Mexican as fuck dog anyway we're watching

7496
06:54:58,260 --> 06:54:59,580
someone critique.

7497
06:55:00,000 --> 06:55:03,640
American electoralism because it's insufficient in its anti-Zionism, which I'm sure you have

7498
06:55:03,640 --> 06:55:04,640
many thoughts on as well.

7499
06:55:04,640 --> 06:55:06,680
I actually have no idea what your position is on this stuff.

7500
06:55:06,680 --> 06:55:09,600
I mean, I do know, I do know you are an anti-Zionist.

7501
06:55:09,600 --> 06:55:10,600
Your wife's pausing.

7502
06:55:10,600 --> 06:55:11,600
I want to show you something.

7503
06:55:11,600 --> 06:55:12,600
Thank God.

7504
06:55:12,600 --> 06:55:13,600
Have you seen American doctor?

7505
06:55:13,600 --> 06:55:14,600
No.

7506
06:55:14,600 --> 06:55:15,600
You haven't seen American doctor yet.

7507
06:55:15,600 --> 06:55:20,040
It's a very good documentary that follows the experience of three doctors, Thayer, Mark

7508
06:55:20,040 --> 06:55:24,960
Perlmutter and Phro Sidwa, and two of them actually make their way into Daza.

7509
06:55:24,960 --> 06:55:27,400
And they actually film themselves in the hospitals, like, you know, serving the Palestinian

7510
06:55:27,400 --> 06:55:28,400
people.

7511
06:55:28,400 --> 06:55:29,400
And, you know, they're constantly under siege.

7512
06:55:29,400 --> 06:55:33,400
But yeah, Thayer is the Palestinian doctor who is real, of course, particularly to not

7513
06:55:33,400 --> 06:55:34,560
allow him to enter.

7514
06:55:34,560 --> 06:55:39,880
But he gave me this, I wanted to show you, he gave me this, this vial of staying from

7515
06:55:39,880 --> 06:55:40,880
the Gaza beach.

7516
06:55:40,880 --> 06:55:41,880
Very cool.

7517
06:55:41,880 --> 06:55:42,880
Yeah.

7518
06:55:42,880 --> 06:55:45,880
I'm going to keep it by my desk, but I just wanted to show you the flex on you a little

7519
06:55:45,880 --> 06:55:46,880
bit.

7520
06:55:46,880 --> 06:55:47,880
Yeah.

7521
06:55:47,880 --> 06:55:48,880
I don't have any physics.

7522
06:55:48,880 --> 06:55:49,880
Yeah.

7523
06:55:49,880 --> 06:55:50,880
But so yeah, we're, can you introduce him?

7524
06:55:50,880 --> 06:55:51,880
Yes.

7525
06:55:51,880 --> 06:55:52,880
He's a professor Dave.

7526
06:55:52,880 --> 06:55:55,520
He is a YouTuber who makes it out with people who are anti-science.

7527
06:55:55,520 --> 06:55:59,000
Unfortunately, we have a real crisis of illiteracy in this country and all around the world,

7528
06:55:59,000 --> 06:56:00,000
really.

7529
06:56:00,000 --> 06:56:04,080
And you do the tireless work of addressing some of these charlatans, the pseudo scientists,

7530
06:56:04,080 --> 06:56:07,000
the people that are constantly trying to do others.

7531
06:56:07,000 --> 06:56:08,240
I did want to talk to you about that.

7532
06:56:08,240 --> 06:56:09,560
You're a science communicator.

7533
06:56:09,560 --> 06:56:16,120
How do you feel about the way that, especially during COVID, the anti-science movement grew?

7534
06:56:16,120 --> 06:56:18,240
Do you feel like it was always, I mean, it was always there, but like, do you feel like

7535
06:56:18,240 --> 06:56:19,240
it gained prominence?

7536
06:56:19,240 --> 06:56:20,240
Much more prominence.

7537
06:56:20,240 --> 06:56:21,240
Yeah.

7538
06:56:21,240 --> 06:56:22,240
I'd ballooned like crazy.

7539
06:56:22,240 --> 06:56:23,240
It's worse than it's ever been in human history.

7540
06:56:23,240 --> 06:56:26,600
I mean, this is a crazy topic for Hassan to be interviewing on.

7541
06:56:26,600 --> 06:56:27,600
Oh my God.

7542
06:56:27,600 --> 06:56:30,440
A lot of us, I was really sure exactly where it was going to go.

7543
06:56:30,440 --> 06:56:31,440
Unless the computer is insane.

7544
06:56:31,440 --> 06:56:32,440
It's going to trigger you.

7545
06:56:32,440 --> 06:56:34,080
The what in this interview?

7546
06:56:34,080 --> 06:56:35,080
The larp.

7547
06:56:35,080 --> 06:56:36,080
It's really bad.

7548
06:56:36,080 --> 06:56:37,080
Oh boy.

7549
06:56:37,080 --> 06:56:39,840
A lot of people kind of predicted they would get a little bit more pro science because in

7550
06:56:39,840 --> 06:56:42,400
a pandemic, there's lives that stake people, you know, might become more pro vaccine because

7551
06:56:42,400 --> 06:56:45,080
the vaccine might, you know, alleviate some of the concerns, but it went completely the

7552
06:56:45,080 --> 06:56:49,160
other way, you know, people took advantage of the situation to just spew endless amounts

7553
06:56:49,160 --> 06:56:52,680
of anti-science rhetoric and polarized the people against the scientific community, against

7554
06:56:52,680 --> 06:56:56,160
even the concept of expertise and just kind of monopolize information flow, try to get them,

7555
06:56:56,160 --> 06:56:58,040
you know, to think certain ways.

7556
06:56:58,040 --> 06:56:59,040
And that's through political discourse.

7557
06:56:59,040 --> 06:57:01,680
But also mainly if you're like the podcast pro space would be the main way that this

7558
06:57:01,680 --> 06:57:02,680
probably can disseminate it.

7559
06:57:02,680 --> 06:57:03,680
Why do you feel like people did this?

7560
06:57:03,680 --> 06:57:06,560
Because I, my attitude on this is like the Joe Rogas of the world, they didn't do it

7561
06:57:06,560 --> 06:57:08,720
because they were selling Iverma because they rose that profit motive for some.

7562
06:57:08,720 --> 06:57:09,720
Yeah.

7563
06:57:09,720 --> 06:57:12,800
But I think this was a real opportunity for a lot of people to present themselves as like

7564
06:57:12,800 --> 06:57:16,640
an independent voice at a time when people were sick and tired of the establishment,

7565
06:57:16,640 --> 06:57:17,640
I guess, in the institutions.

7566
06:57:17,640 --> 06:57:18,640
Yeah.

7567
06:57:18,640 --> 06:57:20,640
Do you feel like it was because these institutions weren't serving the people and these people

7568
06:57:20,640 --> 06:57:21,640
were opportunists?

7569
06:57:21,640 --> 06:57:23,200
Or is there something else that led them in this direction?

7570
06:57:23,200 --> 06:57:26,160
I mean, all of it has that kind of like anti establishment bite to it.

7571
06:57:26,160 --> 06:57:29,160
It has to have the vibe of like, I'm the rebel whistle, blower, truth teller on the super

7572
06:57:29,160 --> 06:57:31,800
secret Patriot podcast, giving you the truth.

7573
06:57:31,800 --> 06:57:33,320
In terms of who those people are, there's two tiers.

7574
06:57:33,320 --> 06:57:35,440
There are just kind of snake oil salesman that are kind of routing people towards their

7575
06:57:35,440 --> 06:57:36,440
supplement business or whatever it is.

7576
06:57:36,440 --> 06:57:37,440
Yeah.

7577
06:57:37,440 --> 06:57:38,440
They're just trying to make money.

7578
06:57:38,440 --> 06:57:41,160
But the much more insidious version of it is kind of the oligarchy crafting very specific

7579
06:57:41,160 --> 06:57:44,600
threads of propaganda and then kind of disguising it as that like rebel underdog, like that's

7580
06:57:44,600 --> 06:57:55,040
what Joe Rogan has become.

7581
06:57:55,040 --> 06:57:56,040
Everybody knows this.

7582
06:57:56,040 --> 06:57:59,400
The tier one and the tier two, the two tiers, that's not just mine.

7583
06:57:59,400 --> 06:58:00,400
Everybody says this.

7584
06:58:00,400 --> 06:58:01,400
I think.

7585
06:58:01,400 --> 06:58:02,400
Okay.

7586
06:58:02,400 --> 06:58:03,400
Ronically, he's the biggest podcast in the entire world.

7587
06:58:03,400 --> 06:58:06,320
And he still tries to retain that vibe, but he's chilling for millionaire.

7588
06:58:06,320 --> 06:58:08,200
I mean, he has like every lizard person.

7589
06:58:08,200 --> 06:58:09,200
Yeah.

7590
06:58:09,200 --> 06:58:13,840
That is, uh, teal and mosque, I mean, running away to how cognizant he is of what he's doing

7591
06:58:13,840 --> 06:58:14,840
is up for debate.

7592
06:58:14,840 --> 06:58:18,760
But the end result is that the views and the desires of these billionaires are being disseminated

7593
06:58:18,760 --> 06:58:19,760
to the public and large numbers.

7594
06:58:19,760 --> 06:58:23,040
What do you feel like is a very effective way to pull these people away from the conspiratorial

7595
06:58:23,040 --> 06:58:24,640
rabbit holes that they find themselves in?

7596
06:58:24,640 --> 06:58:25,640
Yeah.

7597
06:58:25,640 --> 06:58:28,880
Um, I've seen that there are some initiatives by AI, like there's some researchers that

7598
06:58:28,880 --> 06:58:32,920
have found out that like these guys also trust AI chatbots a lot and they see AI chatbots

7599
06:58:32,920 --> 06:58:38,360
as like an impartial third party and there's at least some, uh, there's, there's one study

7600
06:58:38,360 --> 06:58:41,800
that I saw that that was looking into potentially pulling back conspiratorial thinking.

7601
06:58:41,800 --> 06:58:44,020
And I think that's also dangerous in and of itself.

7602
06:58:44,020 --> 06:58:46,960
I, I want to talk to you about AI as well, your opinions on it and like it's capacity

7603
06:58:46,960 --> 06:58:47,960
to change minds.

7604
06:58:47,960 --> 06:58:51,720
But what is your, have you found an effective antidote to conspiratorial thinking?

7605
06:58:51,720 --> 06:58:54,320
I mean, I have, I mean, the first thing you said, then I'll talk about what I do, but

7606
06:58:54,320 --> 06:58:57,280
like it is interesting because like Twitter, I refuse to call it X because I hate you one,

7607
06:58:57,280 --> 06:59:00,800
but I've seen Twitter is a cesspool as you probably know, but it is interesting because

7608
06:59:00,800 --> 06:59:03,880
so many people, when there are these contentious threads about like vaccine stuff or anything

7609
06:59:03,880 --> 06:59:07,400
pandemic oriented inevitably, somebody will ask a grok, you know, to tell the truth about

7610
06:59:07,400 --> 06:59:08,560
a particular study or whatever it is.

7611
06:59:08,560 --> 06:59:11,760
And Grack will say the true thing, like no, like millions of people didn't die from COVID

7612
06:59:11,760 --> 06:59:12,760
vaccines.

7613
06:59:12,760 --> 06:59:14,960
That's, you know, here are the studies that, you know, and there's minimal engagement.

7614
06:59:14,960 --> 06:59:17,080
There's next to no engagement on any of those replies from Grack.

7615
06:59:17,080 --> 06:59:20,320
So that would suggest to me that people are so ingrained in it that that's, that's not

7616
06:59:20,320 --> 06:59:21,320
going to pull the war.

7617
06:59:21,320 --> 06:59:22,320
One shot them.

7618
06:59:22,320 --> 06:59:23,320
And then they're like, Oh my God.

7619
06:59:23,320 --> 06:59:24,320
I was wrong this whole time.

7620
06:59:24,320 --> 06:59:27,240
I mean, probably, probably more than zero people have that like, Oh, we're like, I love

7621
06:59:27,240 --> 06:59:28,240
Grack.

7622
06:59:28,240 --> 06:59:29,240
It's based just like my God.

7623
06:59:29,240 --> 06:59:30,240
Elon.

7624
06:59:30,240 --> 06:59:31,240
Sure.

7625
06:59:31,240 --> 06:59:32,240
And, and so he can't lie to me.

7626
06:59:32,240 --> 06:59:33,240
I mean, it's pot.

7627
06:59:33,240 --> 06:59:34,240
It's entirely possible.

7628
06:59:34,240 --> 06:59:35,240
It's certainly not clogged.

7629
06:59:35,240 --> 06:59:36,240
Not clogged is a woman.

7630
06:59:36,240 --> 06:59:39,760
Yeah, I mean, I'm not well versed in like the minutiae in terms of like the difference

7631
06:59:39,760 --> 06:59:40,920
between the models and everything.

7632
06:59:40,920 --> 06:59:44,040
But I just know that on, on Twitter, Grack is referenced a lot and I don't see it generating

7633
06:59:44,040 --> 06:59:45,040
a lot of discourse.

7634
06:59:45,040 --> 06:59:47,720
But in terms of what I do, I think that if you can show someone exactly how they've

7635
06:59:47,720 --> 06:59:51,280
been duped with crystal clarity, not just like, here's the science, but I'm attacking

7636
06:59:51,280 --> 06:59:52,280
individual charlatents.

7637
06:59:52,280 --> 06:59:55,360
I'm deconstructing their script of lies and I'm also elucidating the, the motives behind

7638
06:59:55,360 --> 06:59:56,360
the lies, right?

7639
06:59:56,360 --> 06:59:58,000
They're either chilling for so and so or they're trying to get you to buy supplements, whatever

7640
06:59:58,000 --> 06:59:59,000
it is.

7641
06:59:59,000 --> 07:00:00,000
Once you see that, once the curtain gets peeled back, then.

7642
07:00:00,000 --> 07:00:02,600
And hopefully you start, you know, I get a lot of people emailing me like, man,

7643
07:00:02,600 --> 07:00:05,240
I was like really captured by the podcast, bro mentality and you kind of help me

7644
07:00:05,280 --> 07:00:08,120
deconstruct that and deconvert and, um, so that's, that's what I'm trying to do.

7645
07:00:08,120 --> 07:00:10,000
And I tried to instill a little bit of humor, a little bit of drama and kind of

7646
07:00:10,000 --> 07:00:11,280
keep people wanting to watch the videos.

7647
07:00:11,560 --> 07:00:15,680
So even before, uh, your, your, uh, science stuff, like even before your YouTube

7648
07:00:15,680 --> 07:00:19,200
channel, um, were you always someone who is a progressive person in your politics?

7649
07:00:19,280 --> 07:00:19,680
I think so.

7650
07:00:19,680 --> 07:00:21,360
I mean, I want the best for everybody.

7651
07:00:21,360 --> 07:00:24,360
I want, you know, I guess I'm kind of utilitarian, I did get a vaccine and that's

7652
07:00:24,360 --> 07:00:25,080
what made you woken gay.

7653
07:00:25,080 --> 07:00:25,360
It's true.

7654
07:00:25,360 --> 07:00:27,560
Um, but nearly after birth, I said, you're very young age.

7655
07:00:27,560 --> 07:00:30,560
I've been vaccinated. Yeah. Um, so the reason why I asked you that question, however,

7656
07:00:30,560 --> 07:00:33,560
is because I want to talk to you about Jordan Peterson, because what you do in

7657
07:00:33,560 --> 07:00:36,160
the realm of, you know, pseudo scientists and like anti-vaxxers, anti-science,

7658
07:00:36,160 --> 07:00:38,840
I feel like I've done for many, many years in the realm of political commentary.

7659
07:00:38,840 --> 07:00:38,880
Yeah.

7660
07:00:38,920 --> 07:00:39,520
Um,

7661
07:00:49,520 --> 07:00:50,040
Okay.

7662
07:00:51,200 --> 07:00:51,840
Okay, bro.

7663
07:00:53,840 --> 07:00:54,440
Okay, bro.

7664
07:00:55,440 --> 07:00:55,760
Okay.

7665
07:00:56,320 --> 07:00:58,400
Wait, do I remember some pictures and videos?

7666
07:00:58,640 --> 07:00:59,000
Come on.

7667
07:00:59,160 --> 07:00:59,920
Don't remember the what?

7668
07:01:00,920 --> 07:01:03,480
Just, uh, son Jordan Peterson talked.

7669
07:01:03,560 --> 07:01:03,920
Yeah.

7670
07:01:04,120 --> 07:01:06,840
And him like trying to debunk all the crazy, right?

7671
07:01:06,840 --> 07:01:10,400
Talking points and hinting on all the science communication of politics and

7672
07:01:10,400 --> 07:01:11,960
the getting into the policy.

7673
07:01:11,960 --> 07:01:12,280
Yeah.

7674
07:01:12,560 --> 07:01:15,280
So I feel like I've done for many, many years in the realm of political commentary.

7675
07:01:16,120 --> 07:01:16,600
Do what?

7676
07:01:18,040 --> 07:01:19,840
I'd say that number one, uh, beta on Twitch.

7677
07:01:20,680 --> 07:01:24,240
So far, you know, pseudo scientists and like anti-vaxxers, anti-science.

7678
07:01:24,240 --> 07:01:26,280
I feel like I've done for many, many years in the realm of political,

7679
07:01:26,280 --> 07:01:26,880
commentary.

7680
07:01:26,880 --> 07:01:27,040
Yeah.

7681
07:01:27,240 --> 07:01:30,160
Um, I've tried to tackle many of these grifters and Charlotte and Jordan Peterson

7682
07:01:30,160 --> 07:01:32,320
being one of them and, uh, I want to go first.

7683
07:01:32,320 --> 07:01:34,680
I want to be, wait, has he talked to Jordan Peterson?

7684
07:01:35,200 --> 07:01:35,640
Maybe he did.

7685
07:01:35,640 --> 07:01:36,440
I just don't remember.

7686
07:01:36,960 --> 07:01:38,440
Well, how does he tackle them?

7687
07:01:38,840 --> 07:01:39,520
Oh, okay.

7688
07:01:39,520 --> 07:01:40,440
I'm looking at stuff right now.

7689
07:01:41,040 --> 07:01:42,760
Are you well versed in the realm of Jordan Peterson?

7690
07:01:42,760 --> 07:01:43,240
Are you familiar with them?

7691
07:01:43,240 --> 07:01:45,840
I mean, not as intimately as you, but certainly some, because unfortunately,

7692
07:01:45,840 --> 07:01:47,160
I mean, this is what happens with people like Jordan.

7693
07:01:47,160 --> 07:01:49,280
There's such frauds that they get pushed into a corner.

7694
07:01:49,320 --> 07:01:51,680
And so then like once he started doing anti, you know, a climate change

7695
07:01:51,680 --> 07:01:53,200
denial and anti-vaxx, then the interest into my world.

7696
07:01:53,200 --> 07:01:54,080
And then I'm very, very familiar with them.

7697
07:01:54,080 --> 07:01:56,280
So yeah, no, I always find that fascinating as well.

7698
07:01:56,280 --> 07:01:58,120
Like, because they, they have to be multifaceted.

7699
07:01:58,120 --> 07:01:59,200
They have to hit like every avenue.

7700
07:01:59,200 --> 07:02:01,960
Or I think Jordan Peterson's case, he probably must have gotten money

7701
07:02:01,960 --> 07:02:02,960
from like oil lobbyists.

7702
07:02:02,960 --> 07:02:07,280
Cause, uh, I don't, I don't know if someone like that who is, um, supposed to

7703
07:02:07,280 --> 07:02:10,200
be this, uh, you know, this, this, uh, academic, this well-versed academic,

7704
07:02:10,200 --> 07:02:12,960
even though people have also tackled his, his qualifications in that field.

7705
07:02:13,240 --> 07:02:17,200
Um, just all of a sudden decides to start talking about, you know, how, how

7706
07:02:17,360 --> 07:02:19,200
the oil and gas industry is very important.

7707
07:02:19,360 --> 07:02:22,080
Well, when you become this kind of like pseudo contrarian figure, you always

7708
07:02:22,080 --> 07:02:22,960
need like fodder to talk about.

7709
07:02:22,960 --> 07:02:23,800
So you kind of pick a lane.

7710
07:02:23,840 --> 07:02:25,520
I mean, like him and Brett Weinstein are very similar.

7711
07:02:25,520 --> 07:02:26,560
I don't know if you know a lot about Brett Weinstein.

7712
07:02:26,560 --> 07:02:26,920
Of course.

7713
07:02:26,920 --> 07:02:30,560
But yeah, it's just like their stories are so, like this manufactured, uh, you

7714
07:02:30,560 --> 07:02:33,440
know, fighting against the woke mob, uh, story, everything is completely distorted.

7715
07:02:33,520 --> 07:02:36,520
Like it's a very deliberate narrative to kind of rise in similar ways.

7716
07:02:36,520 --> 07:02:38,680
Jordan and Brett have, uh, stories there.

7717
07:02:38,680 --> 07:02:41,280
But, uh, so since we started, you're like on the left, your progressive figure,

7718
07:02:41,280 --> 07:02:43,000
I want to ask you this question that I think about all the time.

7719
07:02:43,280 --> 07:02:47,400
How come no one on the left ever, uh, builds momentum around cancel culture

7720
07:02:47,400 --> 07:02:50,520
in the way that those, uh, on the right of being able to design entire careers?

7721
07:02:50,720 --> 07:02:53,160
Because, uh, I'm sure you're familiar with this.

7722
07:02:53,160 --> 07:02:56,680
Uh, given your anti-science advocacy, um, for years and years, I feel like you guys

7723
07:02:56,680 --> 07:03:00,240
cry about Israel and APEC, like nonstop.

7724
07:03:01,480 --> 07:03:04,920
That's why it killed me whenever they're talking about like the using

7725
07:03:04,920 --> 07:03:08,960
certain issues as like cannon fodder, like, Oh my God, like you've been

7726
07:03:08,960 --> 07:03:10,320
fucking yourself right now.

7727
07:03:11,440 --> 07:03:14,760
Here's the same people like Ben Shapiro, the intellectual dark web Barry

7728
07:03:14,760 --> 07:03:16,880
Weiss is another one who ironically wrote the article at the New York

7729
07:03:16,880 --> 07:03:18,800
Times for the intellectual dark web, which featured Weinstein as well.

7730
07:03:19,120 --> 07:03:24,120
Um, these were, uh, these were people who, I don't think it's a, it's crazy

7731
07:03:24,120 --> 07:03:26,880
to, to say, developed careers off of being quote unquote canceled.

7732
07:03:27,040 --> 07:03:27,240
Yeah.

7733
07:03:27,320 --> 07:03:31,240
Well, they were also simultaneously advocating to ironically cancel those

7734
07:03:31,240 --> 07:03:31,760
who oppose them.

7735
07:03:32,280 --> 07:03:35,560
Uh, and nowadays, like we see the true or consequential real

7736
07:03:35,560 --> 07:03:40,080
de-platform initiatives take root, um, specifically amongst people, the IDW,

7737
07:03:40,080 --> 07:03:43,080
the introduction of dark webbies, fucking morons had a lot of problems.

7738
07:03:43,240 --> 07:03:45,240
Were they advocating to cancel other people?

7739
07:03:45,240 --> 07:03:46,080
I don't think they usually were.

7740
07:03:46,080 --> 07:03:46,720
That's not true.

7741
07:03:46,960 --> 07:03:50,040
They didn't seem to say much when Trump was on it, but I don't think

7742
07:03:50,040 --> 07:03:51,520
they were advocating for other people to get canceled.

7743
07:03:51,680 --> 07:03:52,000
Okay.

7744
07:03:54,160 --> 07:03:57,920
Uh, who are advocating to, to disrupt the hierarchical order, uh, you

7745
07:03:57,920 --> 07:04:00,680
know, talk about, uh, Israel's position of primacy in American form posse

7746
07:04:00,680 --> 07:04:02,680
and sometimes even in, in domestic affairs.

7747
07:04:03,280 --> 07:04:06,320
And yet I don't hear a goddamn P for these cancel culture warriors, but I

7748
07:04:06,320 --> 07:04:09,800
also don't hear it from, uh, like a broader liberal less base in the way

7749
07:04:09,800 --> 07:04:13,480
that a lot of these guys were defended by the broader, uh, right wing movement.

7750
07:04:13,520 --> 07:04:14,320
Why do you think that's the case?

7751
07:04:14,680 --> 07:04:17,360
Well, yeah, like, why, why can't like the anti-canary mission pick up steam

7752
07:04:17,360 --> 07:04:18,240
and we can like cancel all the designs?

7753
07:04:18,320 --> 07:04:19,400
I think, I think the answer is money, right?

7754
07:04:19,400 --> 07:04:21,600
There's money behind, uh, canceling in a particular direction.

7755
07:04:21,880 --> 07:04:23,000
Uh, and none in the other direction.

7756
07:04:23,000 --> 07:04:23,880
I think it's pretty much what it is.

7757
07:04:23,880 --> 07:04:24,960
No, no, I, that's not even what I was saying.

7758
07:04:24,960 --> 07:04:27,560
I was saying like, why do you feel like we can't build a movement to be like,

7759
07:04:27,560 --> 07:04:28,640
I got canceled, give me money.

7760
07:04:28,640 --> 07:04:29,000
Mm hmm.

7761
07:04:29,440 --> 07:04:30,160
Why can't we do that?

7762
07:04:30,520 --> 07:04:31,240
I think we should.

7763
07:04:31,240 --> 07:04:33,040
You're, you're, you're, they're trying to cancel you.

7764
07:04:33,040 --> 07:04:35,040
I know, because nobody's canceling you.

7765
07:04:35,040 --> 07:04:35,720
What do you mean?

7766
07:04:35,720 --> 07:04:38,040
Who's been canceled on the far left?

7767
07:04:38,120 --> 07:04:39,520
Am I missing these people?

7768
07:04:39,840 --> 07:04:46,120
They're trying to cancel you motherfucker streams and has content are all the most popular billion or owned platforms in the world.

7769
07:04:46,120 --> 07:04:47,040
Nobody's canceling you.

7770
07:04:47,040 --> 07:04:47,880
You haven't been demonetized.

7771
07:04:47,880 --> 07:04:48,520
Remember anything.

7772
07:04:48,520 --> 07:04:50,640
What do you, what do you, what do you make your fundraiser for?

7773
07:04:50,640 --> 07:04:51,360
My God.

7774
07:04:51,680 --> 07:04:52,360
Experimenting with that.

7775
07:04:52,400 --> 07:04:53,000
But that's pretty interesting.

7776
07:04:53,000 --> 07:04:54,520
I see, you said they're trying to cancel you, right?

7777
07:04:54,840 --> 07:04:56,240
So that's my, that's my attitude on as well.

7778
07:04:56,240 --> 07:04:57,520
I don't think it's like a real thing in general.

7779
07:04:57,520 --> 07:04:59,640
It wasn't real for Brett Weinstein and it's not even real for someone like myself.

7780
07:04:59,640 --> 07:05:00,000
You don't need like.

7781
07:05:00,000 --> 07:05:04,040
like quote unquote canceled by your own, you know, fan base your own ideological peers,

7782
07:05:04,040 --> 07:05:08,360
your allies. However, I think if Joe Rogan or Brett Weinstein received the fraction of

7783
07:05:08,360 --> 07:05:11,860
the scrutiny that I did, remember like in 2016, 2017, if that if that is a

7784
07:05:11,860 --> 07:05:17,760
scrutiny, does he just say that he got more scrutiny than Joe Rogan?

7785
07:05:17,760 --> 07:05:24,080
Yeah, bro, this like level of inflated sense of self importance is not healthy.

7786
07:05:24,080 --> 07:05:29,920
Jesus, the scrutiny that they had received, I think they have a more valid approach to

7787
07:05:29,920 --> 07:05:33,000
this whole cancel culture. Right. Right. For them, it was like, I'm being racist to my

7788
07:05:33,000 --> 07:05:36,160
students or something. And then they yelled at me. So now I'm quitting my job. I'm the

7789
07:05:36,160 --> 07:05:39,740
cancel culture victim. Yeah. Yeah. For you, it's like make like distorting like some

7790
07:05:39,740 --> 07:05:42,440
offhand comment or something, whereas these people can be, you know, on the other side

7791
07:05:42,440 --> 07:05:45,840
can be openly racist or, you know, Trump can be like, Hey, let's let Iran bomb Los Angeles.

7792
07:05:45,840 --> 07:05:49,360
And then it's just like, well, why aren't we? Or yeah, or the other. He was like saying,

7793
07:05:49,360 --> 07:05:54,840
like, Oh, I call him Muhammad. Like it's like, yeah, it is actually like playground level

7794
07:05:54,840 --> 07:05:58,480
racism, which would be funny if he wasn't also the most powerful person on the planet,

7795
07:05:58,480 --> 07:06:02,360
you know, but just in general, like we exposed like a child sex trafficking ring. And then

7796
07:06:02,360 --> 07:06:05,880
like everybody, all the politicians are sending money to murder children and Gaza. Like these,

7797
07:06:05,880 --> 07:06:08,560
this is what we should be canceling. These are the people that should be canceled. Right.

7798
07:06:08,560 --> 07:06:12,160
Yeah. Go to jail. Yeah. Go to jail. I mean, it's not that weird to be going to jail for

7799
07:06:12,160 --> 07:06:16,200
trafficking children. I mean, that's what we should strive for. I agree. So what are what

7800
07:06:16,200 --> 07:06:18,960
are some of your show me who some of your biggest villains are? Explain them to me because

7801
07:06:18,960 --> 07:06:23,760
I'm not as well versed in the field of science and pseudoscience communicators. I mean,

7802
07:06:23,760 --> 07:06:28,880
I do know a wine scene, but not on his like anti science perspective. Yeah. So obviously

7803
07:06:28,880 --> 07:06:33,520
all health is a big one. Just like anti-vaxxers is just a whole Pandora's box. And then there's

7804
07:06:33,520 --> 07:06:36,880
kind of just like the pure pro oligarchy, like Eric Weinstein or like Sabine Asenfelder.

7805
07:06:36,880 --> 07:06:40,120
And then there's just like moon landing deniers and there's a pseudo archaeology. I mean,

7806
07:06:40,120 --> 07:06:43,800
I kind of hit it all, you know. Okay. So is Oh, Graham Hancock, right? So you're just like

7807
07:06:43,800 --> 07:06:48,560
going after every Joe Rogan. Yeah. Yes. Every Joe Rogan sub genre is on the chopping block.

7808
07:06:48,560 --> 07:06:52,800
Yeah. What about Professor John? Are you familiar with him? I did one reaction on him. And he's

7809
07:06:52,800 --> 07:06:56,080
a little, he's a little kooky. Yeah. Yeah. Some people didn't like it because I did a first

7810
07:06:56,080 --> 07:06:58,800
I did just a reaction video till like an eight minute breaking points video where I didn't have

7811
07:06:58,800 --> 07:07:01,600
much to say because he was he was raining back the crazy, but I should have done it after the

7812
07:07:01,600 --> 07:07:04,400
science video because he has science videos too. So he did a science video that was like an hour

7813
07:07:04,400 --> 07:07:07,280
long that was like trying to go through cosmology and evolution and stuff. And he just has no

7814
07:07:07,280 --> 07:07:10,240
idea what he's talking about. Like absolutely no idea. So I got skewed in the comments because

7815
07:07:10,240 --> 07:07:13,280
I didn't have much to say. And maybe said one or two, like not not quite right things about like

7816
07:07:13,280 --> 07:07:16,560
Iran or something. But I was just there to make fun of this. Well, breaking points video is really

7817
07:07:16,560 --> 07:07:20,880
funny. I'm glad you brought that up because the first like 12 minutes is just perfectly

7818
07:07:20,880 --> 07:07:24,640
reasonable. Like something you hear from like a merchheimer or something. And then in the last

7819
07:07:24,640 --> 07:07:29,280
like three minutes, he's like, it is the Illuminati, like Jews are actually all Turks.

7820
07:07:29,280 --> 07:07:33,120
It's the Kazar theory. And then they're Frankis. And then they've like straight away from like

7821
07:07:33,120 --> 07:07:36,800
the real Judaism. And that's who controls the keys to the whole world. And I was like, yeah,

7822
07:07:36,800 --> 07:07:40,640
I don't even know. I don't even know what the goal is there. This is what I this is what I

7823
07:07:40,640 --> 07:07:47,040
sometimes fail to comprehend with a lot of guys like this. If you're selling merch, if you're

7824
07:07:47,040 --> 07:07:51,200
selling Ivermectin, I get it. It's you know, it's a dishonest way to make it living. But but I get

7825
07:07:51,200 --> 07:07:55,600
it. I understand it. There's a there's a A to B logical conclusion to the to the action. With

7826
07:07:55,600 --> 07:07:59,040
someone like Professor Zhang, I just don't understand it at all. I mean, why why discount Adsense revenue?

7827
07:07:59,040 --> 07:08:03,440
If you can make 10 times what you make at your teaching job with Adsense revenue, why wouldn't

7828
07:08:03,440 --> 07:08:08,000
someone do that? If it can be like cut the first 12 minutes and then stay there. You know what I mean?

7829
07:08:08,000 --> 07:08:10,800
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe maybe he's genuinely nuts. Maybe there's a portion of the internet

7830
07:08:10,800 --> 07:08:13,920
that he's catering to by talking that way. I really don't know. I mean, some people, a lot of people

7831
07:08:13,920 --> 07:08:16,800
in the comments are like CCP plants. CCP plan. I don't know. I don't have to do that. There's no

7832
07:08:16,800 --> 07:08:21,840
shot. He's constantly he's so reactionary that if he were to first of all, if Professor Zhang

7833
07:08:21,840 --> 07:08:25,760
was doing that commentary on Chinese social media in Chinese, he would be arrested. Like he would

7834
07:08:25,760 --> 07:08:28,880
literally instant jail. The only reason why the Chinese government allows that kind of stuff is

7835
07:08:28,880 --> 07:08:31,120
because he's doing it in the Western internet and they don't give a fuck. Yeah. And they're like,

7836
07:08:31,120 --> 07:08:33,760
yeah, you can go off and say whatever you want. I just think he's a guy who pretends to know what

7837
07:08:33,760 --> 07:08:36,960
he's talking about to make money on YouTube. I think that's pretty open and shut. That makes

7838
07:08:36,960 --> 07:08:41,920
sense. Someone said Muslims love Professor Zhang. I know the Uma is, you know, there are a lot of

7839
07:08:41,920 --> 07:08:45,360
there are a lot. There are many Muslims around the world who fall for someone who's not Muslim who

7840
07:08:45,360 --> 07:08:50,400
this guy's fucking. Oh my God. This guy is a what do you call a culture vulture? Is there

7841
07:08:50,400 --> 07:08:56,160
like a religion vulture speaks sympathetically about Islam or Muslims as a whole. They love

7842
07:08:56,160 --> 07:08:59,520
Tucker Carlson as well. You know, there's there's plenty of that. Yeah, Tucker's wild. It's hard

7843
07:08:59,520 --> 07:09:02,080
for me to wrap my head around what around his whole thing. Let's talk about that. Because on the one

7844
07:09:02,080 --> 07:09:08,000
hand, he is, I think a phenomenal communicator in many respects is a pure, you know, pure rhetoric.

7845
07:09:08,000 --> 07:09:11,520
He's very good at what he does. But it's also very dangerous because for every three videos that he

7846
07:09:11,520 --> 07:09:15,760
does where he makes a very convincing case about, you know, Israel's genocide or the ways in which,

7847
07:09:15,760 --> 07:09:19,680
like, uh, Israeli interests of have, uh, oftentimes been in Oz with American foreign policy interests

7848
07:09:19,680 --> 07:09:23,840
or whatever. There's like for every three videos where he's making a story case, there's one video.

7849
07:09:23,840 --> 07:09:29,360
That's how he that's where Tucker Carlson's content is at for Hassan is three to one

7850
07:09:29,920 --> 07:09:34,320
12 videos with a great replace. Okay. 12 video. Okay. Three to 12 still kind of scary that we're

7851
07:09:34,320 --> 07:09:41,360
agreeing with, um, one fifth of what Tucker Carlson says, but okay. Yeah. And what's fascinating to me

7852
07:09:41,520 --> 07:09:45,040
what is, uh, you know, very frustrating as well about that commentary is like, well,

7853
07:09:45,040 --> 07:09:48,240
my attitude on this is the same with like Nick Fuentes where it's like, you just want to do Israel

7854
07:09:48,240 --> 07:09:51,680
here. And it almost feels like you don't like what Israel's doing is they're doing it over there.

7855
07:09:51,680 --> 07:09:56,160
And they're, uh, they get away with it when you kind of want to do, you know, white nationalist,

7856
07:09:56,160 --> 07:09:59,840
uh, Israel here. I think that's why they fixate more on the tax dollars than the.

7857
07:10:00,000 --> 07:10:00,840
- You know, ethical transgression.

7858
07:10:00,840 --> 07:10:01,680
- Then the death, yeah.

7859
07:10:01,680 --> 07:10:02,500
- I mean, yeah.

7860
07:10:02,500 --> 07:10:04,000
- And that's the other thing that I always,

7861
07:10:04,000 --> 07:10:06,360
one thing that I've always noticed about those on the right

7862
07:10:06,360 --> 07:10:08,400
who talk about these issues

7863
07:10:08,400 --> 07:10:10,320
will simply stick to criticisms of Israel,

7864
07:10:10,320 --> 07:10:11,160
but you're right,

7865
07:10:11,160 --> 07:10:12,520
they rarely ever talk about the Palestinian victims

7866
07:10:12,520 --> 07:10:13,360
or the humanity of Palestinians.

7867
07:10:13,360 --> 07:10:15,000
Tucker does that to give him some credit, he does.

7868
07:10:15,000 --> 07:10:15,840
- Yeah, it's bad, like, yeah.

7869
07:10:15,840 --> 07:10:17,000
- That's an easy point, you know.

7870
07:10:17,000 --> 07:10:18,360
But one thing that they never do

7871
07:10:18,360 --> 07:10:20,200
is lend credence to the resistance movement.

7872
07:10:20,200 --> 07:10:21,400
They never talk about the legitimacy

7873
07:10:21,400 --> 07:10:22,240
of militant resistance-- - The resistance.

7874
07:10:22,240 --> 07:10:26,000
- Against Western imperialism and Israel as a whole.

7875
07:10:26,000 --> 07:10:26,840
And as a matter of fact,

7876
07:10:26,840 --> 07:10:28,120
people like Nick once even say it's terrorism,

7877
07:10:28,120 --> 07:10:29,200
that's unacceptable. - Wow.

7878
07:10:29,200 --> 07:10:30,840
- And we'll call people like myself, Terris as well.

7879
07:10:30,840 --> 07:10:31,820
And I feel like that's some of the tell.

7880
07:10:31,820 --> 07:10:32,660
- He is.

7881
07:10:32,660 --> 07:10:33,500
- For those on the right

7882
07:10:33,500 --> 07:10:34,500
who are supposed to be these prominent critics of Israel.

7883
07:10:34,500 --> 07:10:35,800
- Yeah, especially people who are, like, gun crazy

7884
07:10:35,800 --> 07:10:37,400
and talk about, like, I need my guns in case I need to--

7885
07:10:37,400 --> 07:10:39,320
- What, like, what is this political analysis

7886
07:10:39,320 --> 07:10:40,160
that we're doing at it?

7887
07:10:40,160 --> 07:10:41,000
There's somewhat of a tell.

7888
07:10:41,000 --> 07:10:42,560
What's the tell you fucking retard

7889
07:10:42,560 --> 07:10:44,560
that conservatives don't give a fuck about Arabs?

7890
07:10:44,560 --> 07:10:46,720
No shit, like, did you just discover

7891
07:10:46,720 --> 07:10:49,720
that welcome to US politics from the year 2001,

7892
07:10:49,720 --> 07:10:51,880
not even for decades before that?

7893
07:10:51,880 --> 07:10:54,280
Is he just, is this not just learning this?

7894
07:10:54,280 --> 07:10:56,160
- Yeah, it's crazy that they're very critical of Israel,

7895
07:10:56,160 --> 07:10:58,280
but they don't seem to give a fuck about Palestinians,

7896
07:10:58,280 --> 07:10:59,320
you know, what's going on there?

7897
07:10:59,320 --> 07:11:00,840
(grunts)

7898
07:11:00,840 --> 07:11:02,440
- But, like, revolt against the authoritarian government

7899
07:11:02,440 --> 07:11:03,920
or whatever, it is, well, like, what, I'm sorry,

7900
07:11:03,920 --> 07:11:05,520
like, if you were born in Gaza and this is all you knew,

7901
07:11:05,520 --> 07:11:06,960
like, you'd be a militant, like, what do you talk?

7902
07:11:06,960 --> 07:11:07,800
Of course you would.

7903
07:11:07,800 --> 07:11:09,040
You wanna be a militant when there's no threat

7904
07:11:09,040 --> 07:11:10,640
when you're living in suburban Americas.

7905
07:11:10,640 --> 07:11:12,600
So, yes, you would be a militant if you had Israel

7906
07:11:12,600 --> 07:11:13,440
doing what it does to you.

7907
07:11:13,440 --> 07:11:14,260
- I don't think those people

7908
07:11:14,260 --> 07:11:15,080
want to be militants even if there was a threat.

7909
07:11:15,080 --> 07:11:15,920
- That's true, America.

7910
07:11:15,920 --> 07:11:17,560
- Like, I've said, I mean, there are people.

7911
07:11:17,560 --> 07:11:18,920
- They're what?

7912
07:11:18,920 --> 07:11:21,280
- They had to join, they had to join the militia.

7913
07:11:21,280 --> 07:11:22,120
- Exactly.

7914
07:11:22,120 --> 07:11:24,040
- There was no other option.

7915
07:11:24,040 --> 07:11:27,480
There are some who would be, like, I always point to, you know,

7916
07:11:27,480 --> 07:11:29,480
the 3% or the Oath Keepers and, like, some of the real,

7917
07:11:29,480 --> 07:11:32,600
like, people who actually do those, like, weekend excursions

7918
07:11:32,600 --> 07:11:33,440
and whatnot.

7919
07:11:33,440 --> 07:11:35,200
I feel like if material conditions resembled Syria,

7920
07:11:35,200 --> 07:11:36,240
they would be ISIS.

7921
07:11:36,240 --> 07:11:37,920
Like, they would be literally just the same as ISIS,

7922
07:11:37,920 --> 07:11:38,920
but just Christian.

7923
07:11:38,920 --> 07:11:39,760
- Yeah.

7924
07:11:39,760 --> 07:11:40,760
- But because they can go and get a, you know,

7925
07:11:40,760 --> 07:11:42,360
Jalapeno popper at Applebee's, like,

7926
07:11:42,360 --> 07:11:45,040
that keeps them at bay from running around

7927
07:11:45,040 --> 07:11:47,000
and, like, decapitating people who they think are.

7928
07:11:50,120 --> 07:11:51,680
- I'm sorry, 'cause before we talk about resistance moments,

7929
07:11:51,680 --> 07:11:55,040
is ISIS a resistance movement?

7930
07:11:55,040 --> 07:11:56,680
Like Hamas and the Houthis, is that in Hezbollah?

7931
07:11:56,680 --> 07:11:58,800
Is that, there's no way that he grouped

7932
07:11:58,800 --> 07:12:00,080
all these things together, right?

7933
07:12:00,080 --> 07:12:01,320
Like, what?

7934
07:12:02,320 --> 07:12:03,200
- Or on Christian.

7935
07:12:03,200 --> 07:12:05,480
- Yeah, I mean, imagine anybody who supports ICE.

7936
07:12:05,480 --> 07:12:06,800
Like, if you think that activity is justified,

7937
07:12:06,800 --> 07:12:09,400
but you don't think somebody is able to, like, fight,

7938
07:12:09,400 --> 07:12:10,240
fight Israel.

7939
07:12:10,240 --> 07:12:11,080
Like, what are you talking about?

7940
07:12:11,080 --> 07:12:12,080
Like, where's the consistency there?

7941
07:12:12,080 --> 07:12:13,560
- Well, I think the consistency is, like, evil.

7942
07:12:13,560 --> 07:12:14,800
Like, they're like, evil doors are good.

7943
07:12:14,800 --> 07:12:15,640
- Okay, gotcha.

7944
07:12:15,640 --> 07:12:18,240
- Like, ISIS is good because it's sometimes hurting children.

7945
07:12:18,240 --> 07:12:20,000
Israel is good because it's also hurting children.

7946
07:12:20,000 --> 07:12:21,880
- Yeah, so I think that's consistent, I guess.

7947
07:12:21,880 --> 07:12:24,320
- The consistency is hurting children, always good.

7948
07:12:24,320 --> 07:12:26,120
Like, equal opportunity child killers.

7949
07:12:26,120 --> 07:12:28,120
That's the way I see it.

7950
07:12:28,120 --> 07:12:29,280
Okay, what else?

7951
07:12:29,280 --> 07:12:31,600
So you got some other villains that you wanna talk about?

7952
07:12:31,600 --> 07:12:32,800
- Oh, man, I mean, let's see.

7953
07:12:32,800 --> 07:12:34,320
Who have I been doing lately?

7954
07:12:34,320 --> 07:12:36,360
I mean, I've been really trying to focus more

7955
07:12:36,360 --> 07:12:37,480
on the Trump administration because, like,

7956
07:12:37,480 --> 07:12:38,320
I got started doing just, like,

7957
07:12:38,320 --> 07:12:40,520
flatter and, like, electric universe and, like, silly stuff,

7958
07:12:40,520 --> 07:12:41,360
you know?

7959
07:12:41,360 --> 07:12:44,080
But given Trump 2.0, like, it's really kind of crazy.

7960
07:12:44,080 --> 07:12:45,240
The difference between the two administrations,

7961
07:12:45,240 --> 07:12:47,080
like, he did, like, put a lot of anti-science people

7962
07:12:47,080 --> 07:12:49,000
in his first administration, but Trump, too, is, like,

7963
07:12:49,000 --> 07:12:49,840
it's insane.

7964
07:12:49,840 --> 07:12:51,280
But he also did Operation Warp Speed, ironically enough.

7965
07:12:51,280 --> 07:12:52,120
- Sure.

7966
07:12:52,120 --> 07:12:54,000
- There was that push-come-to-shelf moment

7967
07:12:54,000 --> 07:12:55,440
where, like, he had to kind of do that.

7968
07:12:55,440 --> 07:12:56,280
- Yeah, 'cause he completely fumbled

7969
07:12:56,280 --> 07:12:58,200
the initial pandemic response.

7970
07:12:58,200 --> 07:13:00,160
But the one I just put out yesterday

7971
07:13:00,160 --> 07:13:01,600
is about J. Bottataria and Martin Kool-Dorf.

7972
07:13:01,600 --> 07:13:03,800
So J. Bottataria's NIH head under Bobby Kennedy

7973
07:13:03,800 --> 07:13:06,200
and Martin Kool-Dorf had an ACIP panel,

7974
07:13:06,200 --> 07:13:07,480
CDC ACIP panel, the vaccine panel.

7975
07:13:07,480 --> 07:13:09,000
And so they were two of the three authors

7976
07:13:09,000 --> 07:13:10,680
of what was called the Great Barrington Declaration.

7977
07:13:10,680 --> 07:13:13,040
So in 2020, they were kind of the suicide.

7978
07:13:13,040 --> 07:13:14,880
So J had done this Santa Clara study in Los Angeles study

7979
07:13:14,880 --> 07:13:17,640
to basically botch a bunch of shit about infection rates

7980
07:13:17,640 --> 07:13:19,800
and transmissibility in order to basically

7981
07:13:19,800 --> 07:13:20,840
downplay a pandemic risk.

7982
07:13:20,840 --> 07:13:21,680
It's basically just the flu.

7983
07:13:21,680 --> 07:13:22,680
There's only gonna be 40,000 deaths.

7984
07:13:22,680 --> 07:13:23,520
Blah, blah, blah.

7985
07:13:23,520 --> 07:13:24,360
We don't need to lock anything down.

7986
07:13:24,360 --> 07:13:25,800
It's basically pro oligarchy propaganda.

7987
07:13:25,800 --> 07:13:27,480
The oligarchy wants everything to go as usual,

7988
07:13:27,480 --> 07:13:28,320
so they keep the money flowing.

7989
07:13:28,320 --> 07:13:30,520
And however many people die, who gives a shit to them.

7990
07:13:30,520 --> 07:13:31,920
So this was essentially commissioned out of them

7991
07:13:31,920 --> 07:13:35,480
to justify anti-lockdown pro oligarchy policy.

7992
07:13:35,480 --> 07:13:36,880
So I just did a video about them.

7993
07:13:36,880 --> 07:13:38,400
And, like, I had to do a video exonerating Fauci

7994
07:13:38,400 --> 07:13:39,560
because of the witch hunt going against him.

7995
07:13:39,560 --> 07:13:41,120
And then one on Lee's Elden have the EPA,

7996
07:13:41,120 --> 07:13:43,400
who basically is just, like, pro polluters,

7997
07:13:43,400 --> 07:13:44,640
sides with polluters instead of the people, like,

7998
07:13:44,640 --> 07:13:47,880
every single person, oh, Russ vote at that, like, dean.

7999
07:13:47,880 --> 07:13:49,040
That's what it's supposed to be, right?

8000
07:13:49,040 --> 07:13:49,880
I think they're renaming it.

8001
07:13:49,880 --> 07:13:50,720
Yeah, yeah.

8002
07:13:50,720 --> 07:13:51,560
But it's just crazy.

8003
07:13:51,560 --> 07:13:52,880
Everyone in his cabinet is completely antithetical

8004
07:13:52,880 --> 07:13:53,720
to the position they hold.

8005
07:13:53,720 --> 07:13:55,240
Out of the EPA is supposed to make sure

8006
07:13:55,240 --> 07:13:57,600
that corporations don't pollute everything and harm us.

8007
07:13:57,600 --> 07:13:58,440
And he's the precise opposite.

8008
07:13:58,440 --> 07:14:00,360
He tries to loosen regulation so they can pollute more.

8009
07:14:00,360 --> 07:14:01,200
It's bananas.

8010
07:14:01,200 --> 07:14:04,080
I don't know if either of these guys do politics much,

8011
07:14:04,080 --> 07:14:05,600
so they don't have, like, a theory for why

8012
07:14:05,600 --> 07:14:07,600
the Second Edmund was so much worse than the first.

8013
07:14:07,600 --> 07:14:10,040
I don't know if I've ever heard Hassan articulate that

8014
07:14:10,040 --> 07:14:10,880
before.

8015
07:14:10,880 --> 07:14:11,720
I'm not sure.

8016
07:14:11,720 --> 07:14:12,560
I don't know.

8017
07:14:12,560 --> 07:14:16,280
Yeah, and it's not like the EPA is always, you know,

8018
07:14:16,280 --> 07:14:18,240
the most aggressive prosecutor of polluters to begin with.

8019
07:14:18,240 --> 07:14:19,880
There's obviously the revolving door between the EPA

8020
07:14:19,880 --> 07:14:22,240
and also the corporate polluters themselves.

8021
07:14:22,240 --> 07:14:23,880
There's the self-regulation that is expected of many

8022
07:14:23,880 --> 07:14:25,000
of these corporations, especially for, like,

8023
07:14:25,000 --> 07:14:27,040
those researching, like, novel chemicals and things

8024
07:14:27,040 --> 07:14:27,880
of that nature.

8025
07:14:27,880 --> 07:14:30,200
But even then, at least like there's a guy who's, at least

8026
07:14:30,200 --> 07:14:33,520
trying to bring this in, whereas now the guys in charge

8027
07:14:33,520 --> 07:14:35,600
of these regulatory agencies are actively dismantling them.

8028
07:14:35,600 --> 07:14:38,240
Yeah, and are, yeah, exactly, actively allowing people

8029
07:14:38,240 --> 07:14:39,080
to continue polluting.

8030
07:14:39,080 --> 07:14:41,280
That's honestly probably one of the central threads

8031
07:14:41,280 --> 07:14:42,760
of the propaganda that I'm combating,

8032
07:14:42,760 --> 07:14:44,520
is that, like, all of the anti-science propaganda,

8033
07:14:44,520 --> 07:14:46,160
everything that tries to get people to distrust

8034
07:14:46,160 --> 07:14:48,400
scientific consensus and universities and whatever it is,

8035
07:14:48,400 --> 07:14:50,720
it's just a vehicle by which they can then insert people

8036
07:14:50,720 --> 07:14:52,320
into these agencies and completely dismantle them,

8037
07:14:52,320 --> 07:14:54,040
thereby deregulating the private sector and letting them

8038
07:14:54,040 --> 07:14:56,440
do even more whatever they want and have everybody cheer

8039
07:14:56,440 --> 07:14:57,840
as they do it, which is insane.

8040
07:14:57,840 --> 07:15:00,680
Do you feel like there's a way to take control over the model?

8041
07:15:00,000 --> 07:15:05,000
a conversation and bring it back to a science-driven focus.

8042
07:15:05,480 --> 07:15:08,560
'Cause like, I do think that the left broadly

8043
07:15:08,560 --> 07:15:12,280
has kind of dropped the ball on having a say

8044
07:15:12,280 --> 07:15:15,440
in like fitness and health and all this stuff.

8045
07:15:15,440 --> 07:15:18,160
And I think that RFK Jr. and this entire movement

8046
07:15:18,160 --> 07:15:20,200
actually took advantage of that lack of interest

8047
07:15:20,200 --> 07:15:22,640
that people had in having experts communicate

8048
07:15:22,640 --> 07:15:24,600
best practices in general.

8049
07:15:24,600 --> 07:15:26,600
Is there like an opportunity there in your assessment?

8050
07:15:26,600 --> 07:15:27,440
- I think so.

8051
07:15:27,440 --> 07:15:29,440
I mean, it's not their fault because of like a cynicism

8052
07:15:29,440 --> 07:15:30,480
towards expertise, but that's again,

8053
07:15:30,480 --> 07:15:31,540
like a part of the current culture.

8054
07:15:31,540 --> 07:15:34,200
But I think that Maha is already beginning to implode

8055
07:15:34,200 --> 07:15:35,240
and we can help it implode even faster

8056
07:15:35,240 --> 07:15:37,040
just by putting a magnifying glass on the hypocrisy.

8057
07:15:37,040 --> 07:15:38,000
So like Bobby's doing it himself.

8058
07:15:38,000 --> 07:15:39,520
So like for example, there are several substances

8059
07:15:39,520 --> 07:15:41,520
that he campaigned heavily on that he's now deregulating.

8060
07:15:41,520 --> 07:15:43,320
So like PFAS, the polyfluoroalkyl substances

8061
07:15:43,320 --> 07:15:45,280
that we know, there's a cancer risk.

8062
07:15:45,280 --> 07:15:46,720
And then glyphosate would be another one.

8063
07:15:46,720 --> 07:15:48,080
So he campaigned on this platform of like,

8064
07:15:48,080 --> 07:15:50,360
I'm gonna rein in these toxic chemicals.

8065
07:15:50,360 --> 07:15:51,600
Instead he is deregulating them.

8066
07:15:51,600 --> 07:15:53,120
He and Lee's all done together are deregulating them

8067
07:15:53,120 --> 07:15:54,920
and making it easier for them to pollute with these substances.

8068
07:15:54,920 --> 07:15:56,920
So if you, like the key is to just make sure

8069
07:15:56,920 --> 07:15:57,760
everybody knows that that's happening.

8070
07:15:57,760 --> 07:15:59,360
First of all, that's why the new cycle is so fast

8071
07:15:59,360 --> 07:16:00,520
because it's like, hey, don't pay attention.

8072
07:16:00,520 --> 07:16:02,200
You know, Bobby deregulated PFAS?

8073
07:16:02,200 --> 07:16:03,840
No, we don't wanna get to the next thing.

8074
07:16:03,840 --> 07:16:05,440
Like let people know that.

8075
07:16:05,440 --> 07:16:08,280
- So that was always the primary focus is what you're saying.

8076
07:16:08,280 --> 07:16:10,960
Like it's to, the Maha stuff is just seasoning

8077
07:16:10,960 --> 07:16:13,560
to get people excited for someone like our kid junior

8078
07:16:13,560 --> 07:16:15,000
and to shift their attention and priorities away

8079
07:16:15,000 --> 07:16:17,360
from the actual toxic pollutants and toxic chemicals

8080
07:16:17,360 --> 07:16:20,840
that he petitioned to destroy.

8081
07:16:20,840 --> 07:16:21,680
- Sure, yeah.

8082
07:16:21,680 --> 07:16:24,240
And it's also an excuse to clear house that CDC and FDA

8083
07:16:24,240 --> 07:16:25,920
fire the entire acid vaccine panel loaded

8084
07:16:25,920 --> 07:16:27,240
with anti-vaxxers.

8085
07:16:27,240 --> 07:16:29,040
Like it's just, it's an excuse to do whatever they want.

8086
07:16:29,040 --> 07:16:30,560
- How the fuck did RFK Junior get here?

8087
07:16:30,560 --> 07:16:31,400
Was he always awake?

8088
07:16:31,400 --> 07:16:33,920
'Cause I remember like, I love Sam Cedar majority report.

8089
07:16:33,920 --> 07:16:36,760
I remember like, he used to sometimes have RFK Junior on

8090
07:16:36,760 --> 07:16:39,120
RFK Junior actually as a lawyer was like really invested

8091
07:16:39,120 --> 07:16:39,960
in that. - Back in the 90s.

8092
07:16:39,960 --> 07:16:40,800
- Yeah, back in the 90s.

8093
07:16:40,800 --> 07:16:41,960
Like really invested in like fighting for indigenous rights

8094
07:16:41,960 --> 07:16:44,120
and yeah, clean water protection and things of that nature.

8095
07:16:44,120 --> 07:16:45,880
As a matter of fact, I feel like he's still banking

8096
07:16:45,880 --> 07:16:48,440
on boomers, remembering that to position himself

8097
07:16:48,440 --> 07:16:49,440
as someone who's always been fighting.

8098
07:16:49,440 --> 07:16:50,960
- I think RFK Junior has always been

8099
07:16:50,960 --> 07:16:52,880
a crazy wacky science denialist.

8100
07:16:52,880 --> 07:16:55,860
But I don't know, again, if either of these guys have,

8101
07:16:56,960 --> 07:16:59,520
Professor Dave is gonna be cucked out here

8102
07:16:59,520 --> 07:17:02,240
because they're now on the same side politically.

8103
07:17:02,240 --> 07:17:05,480
Communists do not believe in science.

8104
07:17:05,480 --> 07:17:07,920
Like every single thing, the most annoying thing

8105
07:17:07,920 --> 07:17:09,640
with these fucking losers, with the commies,

8106
07:17:09,640 --> 07:17:11,040
is that everything is in service

8107
07:17:11,040 --> 07:17:12,000
to their political ideology.

8108
07:17:12,000 --> 07:17:13,240
That's why they're okay lying,

8109
07:17:13,240 --> 07:17:14,640
that's why they're okay defending imperialism

8110
07:17:14,640 --> 07:17:15,480
and everything else.

8111
07:17:15,480 --> 07:17:16,520
They're not like, they don't technically believe

8112
07:17:16,520 --> 07:17:19,400
in science as an institution unless it's been,

8113
07:17:19,400 --> 07:17:21,400
unless it's further the interest of the state or whatever.

8114
07:17:21,400 --> 07:17:23,800
Like Hassan, ironically, would have been like a licencoist

8115
07:17:23,800 --> 07:17:25,160
if he would have been alive in Soviet times.

8116
07:17:25,160 --> 07:17:26,680
He wouldn't have believed in fucking genes

8117
07:17:26,680 --> 07:17:29,320
and whatever the fuck else, they just don't.

8118
07:17:29,320 --> 07:17:30,480
- With fight, yeah.

8119
07:17:30,480 --> 07:17:31,320
What fight?

8120
07:17:31,320 --> 07:17:32,160
Is it the brainworm?

8121
07:17:32,160 --> 07:17:33,000
Like, what happened?

8122
07:17:33,000 --> 07:17:34,840
- I don't know if it's always been a smokescreen

8123
07:17:34,840 --> 07:17:36,640
or if he transformed over time.

8124
07:17:36,640 --> 07:17:38,560
But I mean, definitely since like the 2000s,

8125
07:17:38,560 --> 07:17:39,720
he's been chilling anti-vax.

8126
07:17:39,720 --> 07:17:40,560
I mean, a lot of his income.

8127
07:17:40,560 --> 07:17:41,720
- Like they can't, yes, correct.

8128
07:17:41,720 --> 07:17:43,600
Yes, for a long time, decades, correct.

8129
07:17:44,600 --> 07:17:46,320
Hassan can't have a theory of mind for him

8130
07:17:46,320 --> 07:17:47,880
because Hassan doesn't understand anything outside

8131
07:17:47,880 --> 07:17:50,400
of just very simple class-related stuff

8132
07:17:50,400 --> 07:17:53,480
and like capitalist and billionaires and that's it.

8133
07:17:53,480 --> 07:17:55,320
He has no, he can't.

8134
07:17:55,320 --> 07:17:56,400
- If he transformed over time.

8135
07:17:56,400 --> 07:17:58,240
I mean, definitely since like the 2000s,

8136
07:17:58,240 --> 07:17:59,400
he's been chilling anti-vax.

8137
07:17:59,400 --> 07:18:01,080
I mean, a lot of his income is a finder's fees

8138
07:18:01,080 --> 07:18:03,160
on these bogus lawsuits.

8139
07:18:03,160 --> 07:18:04,720
And then Aaron's series, the lawyer,

8140
07:18:04,720 --> 07:18:05,840
so he started showing up on Joe Rogan

8141
07:18:05,840 --> 07:18:08,000
and spewing his script, so I did too.

8142
07:18:08,000 --> 07:18:10,320
But yeah, he's been run to the court for decades.

8143
07:18:10,320 --> 07:18:13,440
- What happened to the crunchy granola like Democrats

8144
07:18:13,440 --> 07:18:16,320
who became crystal moms and then anti-vaxxers

8145
07:18:16,320 --> 07:18:17,760
and then turned into Republicans?

8146
07:18:17,760 --> 07:18:19,600
And is it possible to bring them back to reality?

8147
07:18:19,600 --> 07:18:20,440
- I think so.

8148
07:18:20,440 --> 07:18:21,440
So that is a fascinating observation.

8149
07:18:21,440 --> 07:18:23,000
Is that anti-vax seems to be this one topic

8150
07:18:23,000 --> 07:18:25,160
that straddles dial you have anti-vax on the right and left?

8151
07:18:25,160 --> 07:18:27,120
And I think that what the right does very well

8152
07:18:27,120 --> 07:18:29,360
is that it is established this media ecosystem

8153
07:18:29,360 --> 07:18:30,720
to pull those people down the pipeline.

8154
07:18:30,720 --> 07:18:31,800
So if you just kind of have this thought of like,

8155
07:18:31,800 --> 07:18:33,760
"Hmm, maybe there's a harmful substance in this thing."

8156
07:18:33,760 --> 07:18:35,280
And then they grab you, they, "Yes, it is harmful.

8157
07:18:35,280 --> 07:18:36,120
"And here's who's giving it to you.

8158
07:18:36,120 --> 07:18:36,960
"And here's why."

8159
07:18:36,960 --> 07:18:37,800
And then come over here and now all of a sudden

8160
07:18:37,800 --> 07:18:38,640
you're doing QAnon shit, you know.

8161
07:18:38,640 --> 07:18:41,760
So that is what the right as mastered is the media ecosystem.

8162
07:18:41,760 --> 07:18:45,000
So I think that that fight is fought in that arena.

8163
07:18:45,000 --> 07:18:46,800
So that's what people like you and I are doing is just like,

8164
07:18:46,800 --> 07:18:49,440
kind of deconstructing the content made by those people

8165
07:18:49,440 --> 07:18:52,400
and trying to help people see what's also about it.

8166
07:18:52,400 --> 07:18:54,320
- Do you feel like, I don't know if you know enough

8167
07:18:54,320 --> 07:18:55,400
about this, but I don't know if you've looked

8168
07:18:55,400 --> 07:18:57,520
into vaccine hesitancy rates all across the world

8169
07:18:57,520 --> 07:18:58,640
in different countries.

8170
07:18:58,640 --> 07:19:01,520
But do you feel like there's more vaccine hesitancy

8171
07:19:01,520 --> 07:19:03,360
and more enmity towards big pharma in a country

8172
07:19:03,360 --> 07:19:04,200
like the United States of America

8173
07:19:04,200 --> 07:19:05,560
because of the for-profit healthcare system?

8174
07:19:05,560 --> 07:19:06,400
That's my theory at least.

8175
07:19:06,400 --> 07:19:07,240
I feel like--

8176
07:19:07,240 --> 07:19:10,520
- Like he can't fathom like, what changed?

8177
07:19:10,520 --> 07:19:11,760
Do you think as our healthcare system,

8178
07:19:11,760 --> 07:19:14,600
it used to not be for-profit and now it is for like,

8179
07:19:14,600 --> 07:19:16,160
that doesn't explain anything.

8180
07:19:16,160 --> 07:19:17,760
There's never been a change

8181
07:19:17,760 --> 07:19:20,280
before our system was all magnanimous

8182
07:19:20,280 --> 07:19:22,680
and it was the pope and priest Curie healing for free.

8183
07:19:22,680 --> 07:19:24,400
Jesus would come out and top your HP up

8184
07:19:24,400 --> 07:19:25,920
before you go on raids for no cause.

8185
07:19:25,920 --> 07:19:27,760
When did this change?

8186
07:19:27,760 --> 07:19:29,720
But he has no theory of mind to explain any of this.

8187
07:19:29,720 --> 07:19:33,200
It's such a pointless, oh my God, it's so pointless.

8188
07:19:33,200 --> 07:19:35,280
When did you stop liking U.S. healthcare?

8189
07:19:35,280 --> 07:19:36,440
- When you became for-profit.

8190
07:19:36,440 --> 07:19:37,280
- What?

8191
07:19:39,120 --> 07:19:40,480
- Well, in different countries.

8192
07:19:40,480 --> 07:19:43,360
But do you feel like there's more vaccine hesitancy

8193
07:19:43,360 --> 07:19:45,200
and more enmity towards big pharma in a country

8194
07:19:45,200 --> 07:19:46,040
like the United States of America

8195
07:19:46,040 --> 07:19:47,400
because of the for-profit healthcare system?

8196
07:19:47,400 --> 07:19:48,240
That's my theory at least.

8197
07:19:48,240 --> 07:19:50,120
I feel like I see a lot of people say--

8198
07:19:50,120 --> 07:19:50,960
- Also, wait, I'm sorry.

8199
07:19:50,960 --> 07:19:54,000
- Swedish companies and German companies

8200
07:19:54,000 --> 07:19:56,120
and all these other companies, are they all state owned?

8201
07:19:56,120 --> 07:19:58,680
Are there no private pharmaceutical companies in all of Europe?

8202
07:19:58,680 --> 07:20:00,560
Do none of them have private pharmaceutical companies?

8203
07:20:00,000 --> 07:20:02,720
Is that they're all state on enterprises or what?

8204
07:20:05,400 --> 07:20:09,120
Oh, I hate big pharma because they're trying to profit off of the cure, right?

8205
07:20:09,560 --> 07:20:12,800
And if people by and large didn't have this attitude, the big pharma is this

8206
07:20:12,800 --> 07:20:15,640
behemoth that is actively trying to pay wall health care.

8207
07:20:16,640 --> 07:20:19,200
Like, I hate these motherfuckers, dude.

8208
07:20:19,400 --> 07:20:20,440
Man, fuck you, Dave.

8209
07:20:20,440 --> 07:20:21,320
What a fucking loser.

8210
07:20:21,320 --> 07:20:25,240
Every single thing you stood for, you sold the fuck out because of the cuck

8211
07:20:25,240 --> 07:20:28,400
political shit and people like Asana are literally sitting here corrupting you.

8212
07:20:28,400 --> 07:20:29,560
He doesn't give a fuck about what you believe.

8213
07:20:29,560 --> 07:20:30,840
Sorry, I didn't give a fuck about what you do.

8214
07:20:31,000 --> 07:20:34,160
He is an actual subhuman demon Satan Hellspon monster.

8215
07:20:34,160 --> 07:20:36,960
Just corrupting every, he's like fucking Daenerys and Game of Thrones.

8216
07:20:36,960 --> 07:20:38,560
Everything that gets near him turns to fucking shit.

8217
07:20:38,840 --> 07:20:39,520
Oh my God.

8218
07:20:39,520 --> 07:20:41,360
Necessary service, a necessary resource.

8219
07:20:42,280 --> 07:20:45,960
There would probably be less vaccine hesitancy, less anti-vaxxer sentiment,

8220
07:20:45,960 --> 07:20:48,560
less anti-big pharma sentiment overall degree.

8221
07:20:48,720 --> 07:20:51,040
Yeah, I think that one problem is that people have a difficulty compartmentalizing

8222
07:20:51,040 --> 07:20:52,960
big pharma and health insurance industry, right?

8223
07:20:52,960 --> 07:20:53,160
Yeah.

8224
07:20:53,160 --> 07:20:54,680
So those are, they're not the same, of course.

8225
07:20:54,880 --> 07:20:57,120
I mean, the difference is that pharma is putting billions and billions of dollars

8226
07:20:57,120 --> 07:20:58,600
into R&D to create these products.

8227
07:20:58,720 --> 07:20:59,760
One in 10 drugs goes to market.

8228
07:20:59,760 --> 07:21:00,960
I mean, it's unbelievably costly.

8229
07:21:01,000 --> 07:21:01,440
Yeah, that's right.

8230
07:21:02,040 --> 07:21:05,200
Like Dave even knows, this is the second time he's done this.

8231
07:21:05,200 --> 07:21:07,560
Dave knows he knows this subject matter.

8232
07:21:07,880 --> 07:21:12,000
I hate being good faith towards a guy who called me a pedophile for three hours.

8233
07:21:12,000 --> 07:21:13,960
Well, he's showing child porn in his fucking YouTube video.

8234
07:21:14,040 --> 07:21:16,640
I'm sure his wife and him fucking got off to all these making a stupid shit on me.

8235
07:21:16,640 --> 07:21:20,600
Unbelievable how gross and weird that, um, that fucking video that both of them

8236
07:21:20,600 --> 07:21:21,560
that he made about me was.

8237
07:21:21,840 --> 07:21:27,000
But, um, dude, if you watch this guy do the anti-vaxxing debate, like, at least

8238
07:21:27,000 --> 07:21:28,400
for some of the stuff he knows, he should.

8239
07:21:28,920 --> 07:21:32,440
Hey, everyone, I can't believe this is allowed to be hosted on YouTube.

8240
07:21:32,480 --> 07:21:36,120
This is, um, this is, it's like a double kill.

8241
07:21:36,120 --> 07:21:37,960
It's unbelievable how much these guys.

8242
07:21:39,920 --> 07:21:40,760
Destroy these two.

8243
07:21:40,760 --> 07:21:44,720
And these guys are like industry standard anti-vaxxer losers.

8244
07:21:45,000 --> 07:21:46,560
Like these guys are well known.

8245
07:21:46,560 --> 07:21:47,800
They've been doing an anti-vaxxer forever.

8246
07:21:48,120 --> 07:21:53,160
And, um, Dave and Dan just, it's like a disassembly.

8247
07:21:53,200 --> 07:21:55,600
It is crazy how much these guys get destroyed.

8248
07:21:56,880 --> 07:22:02,200
A sign just gave all this bullshit and Dave is accurately stating that drugs are

8249
07:22:02,200 --> 07:22:02,640
expensive.

8250
07:22:02,640 --> 07:22:03,200
It's a lot of money.

8251
07:22:03,200 --> 07:22:04,400
You know, you can't bring them all to market.

8252
07:22:04,400 --> 07:22:05,880
It's a lot of money being poured into R&D.

8253
07:22:06,280 --> 07:22:09,920
Um, so he's basically contradicting everything that Assange just said, but

8254
07:22:09,920 --> 07:22:13,240
because this is a friendly mutual circle jerk interview between the commies, they

8255
07:22:13,240 --> 07:22:15,280
have to like agree and yes, and each other.

8256
07:22:15,280 --> 07:22:17,520
Even though what he's saying right now, you realize you're completely

8257
07:22:17,520 --> 07:22:21,880
contradicting what has not just said such a pointless format, dude.

8258
07:22:21,880 --> 07:22:22,400
Fuck me.

8259
07:22:22,600 --> 07:22:24,320
And, uh, and health insurance industry, right?

8260
07:22:24,320 --> 07:22:24,480
Yeah.

8261
07:22:24,520 --> 07:22:25,680
So those are, they're not the same.

8262
07:22:25,680 --> 07:22:28,080
Of course, I mean, the difference is that pharma is putting billions and

8263
07:22:28,080 --> 07:22:29,960
billions of dollars into R&D to create these products.

8264
07:22:30,120 --> 07:22:31,120
One in 10 drugs goes to market.

8265
07:22:31,120 --> 07:22:32,320
I mean, it's unbelievably costly.

8266
07:22:32,360 --> 07:22:32,520
Yeah.

8267
07:22:32,520 --> 07:22:33,680
That's why the profit margins are as they are.

8268
07:22:33,720 --> 07:22:36,160
But then yes, America is unique, uh, not entirely unique, but in

8269
07:22:36,160 --> 07:22:38,880
terms of industrialized world, like we should have free health care, uh, just

8270
07:22:38,880 --> 07:22:39,560
like a lot of other countries.

8271
07:22:39,600 --> 07:22:40,440
Cause like, that's a problem.

8272
07:22:40,600 --> 07:22:42,960
Uh, I mean, we have, I don't know if you're familiar with this, but we've

8273
07:22:42,960 --> 07:22:46,280
created vaccine has seen plays like Pakistan, uh, in the Philippines as well.

8274
07:22:46,600 --> 07:22:47,800
Uh, Samoa Bobby went over there.

8275
07:22:47,800 --> 07:22:47,880
Yeah.

8276
07:22:47,880 --> 07:22:48,480
That too.

8277
07:22:49,160 --> 07:22:51,360
And it's, it's truly repulsive.

8278
07:22:51,400 --> 07:22:53,120
We've is doing a lot of lifting.

8279
07:22:53,120 --> 07:22:53,760
That depends on what you mean.

8280
07:22:53,760 --> 07:22:55,960
For the Samoa stuff, that was not a US initiative.

8281
07:22:55,960 --> 07:23:00,160
That was fucking RFK, the fucking loser going over and doing anti-vaxxer shit.

8282
07:23:00,480 --> 07:23:03,960
Um, for Pakistan, he's referring to the bin Laden USA thing.

8283
07:23:04,000 --> 07:23:06,280
I don't know how much vaccine has to say that created for real.

8284
07:23:06,560 --> 07:23:09,000
Um, the Philippines, I think that was a US thing under Trump.

8285
07:23:09,160 --> 07:23:11,680
I think it was under Trump, where we tried to, I don't remember what it was

8286
07:23:11,680 --> 07:23:12,880
trying to spread some vaccine has to be for something.

8287
07:23:12,880 --> 07:23:16,880
But what we've done in the Philippines, it was because, uh, during COVID, we, of

8288
07:23:16,880 --> 07:23:20,760
course, refused to, uh, distribute the release, the patent of AstraZeneca.

8289
07:23:21,080 --> 07:23:29,520
Um, and, uh, Allah, am I retarded?

8290
07:23:29,640 --> 07:23:31,320
Was that the British one AstraZeneca?

8291
07:23:33,080 --> 07:23:34,440
It's truly repulsive.

8292
07:23:34,840 --> 07:23:35,280
Oh, dude.

8293
07:23:35,280 --> 07:23:38,040
Oh, God, please Dave, you know these talking points.

8294
07:23:38,040 --> 07:23:39,120
You know, this is bullshit.

8295
07:23:39,440 --> 07:23:43,320
The, the release, the patent thing was a, was a meme talking point.

8296
07:23:43,520 --> 07:23:47,120
You, the, um, you can't just release the patent and have people magically

8297
07:23:47,120 --> 07:23:48,360
creating these vaccines.

8298
07:23:48,640 --> 07:23:49,560
Like that's not how that works.

8299
07:23:49,560 --> 07:23:54,120
The technology to manufacture these MRNA vaccines was unbelievably

8300
07:23:55,240 --> 07:23:57,400
challenging from an engineering perspective.

8301
07:23:58,720 --> 07:24:02,160
We've done in the Philippines, it was because, uh, during COVID, we, of course,

8302
07:24:02,200 --> 07:24:06,960
refused to, uh, distribute the release, the patent of AstraZeneca, um, and, uh,

8303
07:24:07,000 --> 07:24:10,880
allow, you know, I didn't know what he, I think he means Johnson and Johnson was

8304
07:24:10,880 --> 07:24:12,520
the American non-MRNA Vax.

8305
07:24:12,520 --> 07:24:15,280
AstraZeneca was the, the British one, they got pulled off the microphone a little

8306
07:24:15,280 --> 07:24:18,520
bit because of blood clots, but the, it's the MRNA vaccine tech is what people,

8307
07:24:18,520 --> 07:24:20,960
I think we're complaining about not having that publicly released.

8308
07:24:21,480 --> 07:24:22,080
But I don't even know.

8309
07:24:22,080 --> 07:24:23,400
These are just like retarded talking points.

8310
07:24:23,400 --> 07:24:26,120
They're like released, uh, patents and then everyone will be able to magically

8311
07:24:26,120 --> 07:24:27,200
make the, it's retarded.

8312
07:24:27,720 --> 07:24:31,760
And other low cost, uh, sites to mass, uh, facilitate and distribute, uh, the

8313
07:24:31,760 --> 07:24:33,040
vaccine make it readily available for everyone.

8314
07:24:33,280 --> 07:24:36,160
And China had Cinevac at the time and China was shipping Cinevac in the

8315
07:24:36,160 --> 07:24:38,360
Philippines and there was an American initiative.

8316
07:24:38,760 --> 07:24:41,320
There was an American messaging campaign who instilled vaccine hesitancy in the

8317
07:24:41,320 --> 07:24:43,840
Philippines that, uh, that they distributed through WhatsApp.

8318
07:24:44,120 --> 07:24:47,040
And, and this was like, uh, I think it was a Reuters report on this, like

8319
07:24:47,040 --> 07:24:49,920
a couple of years ago where they basically did Psyops, the American military did

8320
07:24:49,920 --> 07:24:53,800
this in an effort to make people in the Philippines, uh, not trust the Chinese

8321
07:24:53,800 --> 07:24:56,640
vaccine, but that of course had the secondary consequence of developing

8322
07:24:56,760 --> 07:24:59,920
vaccine hesitancy across the board in the Philippines, um, because they didn't

8323
07:25:00,000 --> 07:25:03,840
you know, Philippines to feel they didn't want to give China an opportunity to do soft power.

8324
07:25:04,480 --> 07:25:08,960
And something similar happened in Pakistan as well. Vaccine hesitancy wasn't a byproduct of

8325
07:25:08,960 --> 07:25:13,440
a effective propaganda apparatus, but this time it was actually the mass blood tests that they'd

8326
07:25:13,440 --> 07:25:18,000
conducted in search of Osama bin Laden. And once it was revealed, there was a major vaccine has

8327
07:25:18,000 --> 07:25:20,800
going forward because all these people that thought they were getting vaccine. I don't know how true

8328
07:25:20,800 --> 07:25:24,720
this was that it caused major vaccines in Pakistan. I'm sure we're simply having their blood work

8329
07:25:24,720 --> 07:25:28,960
collected in an effort to trace Osama bin Laden. They're like, I'm here for a vaccine. Why are you

8330
07:25:28,960 --> 07:25:34,080
taking pleasure? Yeah. So that also had this, this, this very negative consequence. It's

8331
07:25:34,080 --> 07:25:36,800
essentially mass murder. I don't understand why we don't treat it like that. No, absolutely.

8332
07:25:36,800 --> 07:25:41,040
And then there's also the USA stuff as well, USA cuts and like what that is doing to, you know,

8333
07:25:41,040 --> 07:25:44,720
entire kind of like Africa, the third world in general. And these are things that we often

8334
07:25:44,720 --> 07:25:50,560
overlook. My question, I guess, is how the fuck that we also generate so much vaccine hesitancy and

8335
07:25:50,560 --> 07:25:55,440
denial overall of the efficacy here in the United States of America? And how do we not even like

8336
07:25:55,440 --> 07:26:00,400
try to control this? If we know it's good to vaccinate everyone? Yeah, I mean, that part isn't as

8337
07:26:00,400 --> 07:26:05,120
hard to answer in terms of like why it is heightened here, because America remains probably the premier

8338
07:26:05,120 --> 07:26:08,400
global power. And so there's a premium on controlling the voting behavior in America specifically,

8339
07:26:08,400 --> 07:26:11,840
much more so than a less powerful nation. So you want to control the consumer and voting

8340
07:26:11,840 --> 07:26:15,440
behavior of the American public to get the particular people you want in power in, in, you know, in this

8341
07:26:15,440 --> 07:26:22,800
Kaya, please get that dog out of here. Get the damn dog under control. When did this motherfucker,

8342
07:26:22,800 --> 07:26:26,880
when he should come up here? How the general, well, USA come, it's essentially mass murder.

8343
07:26:26,880 --> 07:26:32,240
I don't understand why we want to get this in Africa, like Africa, the third, how the fuck

8344
07:26:32,240 --> 07:26:37,600
that we also generate so much vaccine hesitancy and denial overall of the efficacy here in the

8345
07:26:37,600 --> 07:26:44,320
United States. Oh my God, wait, hold up. Somebody go back and check. Does she have her collar on

8346
07:26:44,320 --> 07:26:48,960
earlier? And then he takes the collar off? Well, just comes over. There is no way that's true.

8347
07:26:48,960 --> 07:26:51,840
Somebody go back in the bottom check there and then make an amateur album with that's true,

8348
07:26:51,840 --> 07:26:56,400
but there's no way that's true. It's America. And how do we not even like try to control this?

8349
07:26:56,400 --> 07:27:01,040
If we know it's good to vaccinate everyone? Yeah, I mean, that part isn't as hard to answer

8350
07:27:01,040 --> 07:27:05,440
in terms of like why it is heightened here, because America remains probably the premier global power.

8351
07:27:05,440 --> 07:27:08,320
And so there's a premium on controlling the voting behavior in America specifically,

8352
07:27:08,320 --> 07:27:12,000
much more so than a less powerful nation. So you want to control the consumer and voting behavior

8353
07:27:12,000 --> 07:27:15,280
of the American public to get the particular people you want in power in, you know, in this

8354
07:27:16,640 --> 07:27:20,720
power structure. And so we're being trained, we're being duped by all this rhetoric specifically.

8355
07:27:20,720 --> 07:27:23,920
But it is exported globally, as you say, I mean, one of the things I was really annoyed by

8356
07:27:23,920 --> 07:27:28,080
is the fact that all of these elites, when the vaccine first being distributed, including Rupert

8357
07:27:28,080 --> 07:27:34,560
Murdoch, who I know from secondhand account information was a major like he was very scared

8358
07:27:34,560 --> 07:27:40,160
of COVID. He self isolated throughout the entire time. He was I know from secondhand information.

8359
07:27:40,160 --> 07:27:44,720
Every old person was scared of COVID Trump almost died. That's what do you mean? Why is he actually

8360
07:27:44,720 --> 07:27:51,440
he's got access to a secret fucking information? Oh my God. Like he was very scared of COVID.

8361
07:27:51,440 --> 07:27:54,880
He self isolated throughout the entire time. He was first in line to get the vaccine before

8362
07:27:54,880 --> 07:27:58,400
anybody else. One of the things that always frustrates me is like a lot of these guys who believe in

8363
07:27:58,400 --> 07:28:01,440
these conspiracy think like all these vaccines are, you know, they're going to kill you. First

8364
07:28:01,440 --> 07:28:07,040
of all, that hasn't happened yet. Thank God. But also they fail to consider that the very people

8365
07:28:07,040 --> 07:28:10,960
that are disseminating this propaganda, the billionaires on top of the media conglomerates,

8366
07:28:10,960 --> 07:28:14,880
they're fucking terrified of COVID. Yeah. How does that not? You know, how do you not recognize

8367
07:28:14,880 --> 07:28:18,480
that? Is my question, I guess? Sure. Yeah, the absent mindedness. But yeah, in terms of the

8368
07:28:18,480 --> 07:28:21,280
people like I did a debate with Steve Kirsch and Pierre Corey who are these two big anti-vaxxers,

8369
07:28:21,280 --> 07:28:24,400
and they start their opening statement were like, just be clear. I'm fully vaccinated. I vaccinated

8370
07:28:24,400 --> 07:28:27,440
my kids blah, blah, blah. But all of the fact it's like, how are you going to make that admission?

8371
07:28:27,440 --> 07:28:30,800
And everybody in the audience is still like, I'm woken gay now and I'm going to die in two years.

8372
07:28:30,800 --> 07:28:36,000
Yeah. From this this unforeseeable cardiovascular problem. Yeah. But you know, it was worth it.

8373
07:28:36,000 --> 07:28:40,960
But what happens is that like, obviously, there were very, very few deaths and major adverse reactions

8374
07:28:40,960 --> 07:28:43,840
to COVID vaccines. So they just say that there were they just make it up, right? There are millions

8375
07:28:43,840 --> 07:28:47,760
of deaths from the COVID vaccine. How do you feel about VAERS? I mean, VAERS is not very well

8376
07:28:47,760 --> 07:28:53,920
understood by the public. How do you feel about VAERS? Who gave them these questions, bro? Kill me.

8377
07:28:53,920 --> 07:28:59,120
Kill me. Let's tell people what VAERS is. VAERS is a vaccine adverse event reporting system. So

8378
07:28:59,120 --> 07:29:03,600
what happens is if you if you experience an adverse event in the vicinity temporally of having a

8379
07:29:03,600 --> 07:29:07,520
vaccine, you can report it. A doctor can report it. You, the patient can report it. Anybody can

8380
07:29:07,520 --> 07:29:12,000
write anything in VAERS. There's there's no, you know, you can put anything. And so what people

8381
07:29:12,000 --> 07:29:15,760
don't understand is that they think that a VAERS report is like a documented occurrence of a vaccine

8382
07:29:15,760 --> 07:29:19,760
injuring someone. It's not. It's something happened around the time that you got a vaccine or they

8383
07:29:19,760 --> 07:29:23,840
made it up or they made it up. In many cases, they made this video. There's a lot I include actual

8384
07:29:23,840 --> 07:29:26,800
VAERS reports in my content a lot where they're just like, it gave me you don't have to make anything

8385
07:29:26,800 --> 07:29:31,040
up. It's not about it being made up. It's just about what VAERS is, which is if you get vaccinated,

8386
07:29:31,040 --> 07:29:36,800
and then you have some kind of bad health thing, you call your doctor and then the doctor will just

8387
07:29:36,800 --> 07:29:40,080
enter it into the database. That's it. It doesn't have to be made up. Like I'm sure a lot of it was

8388
07:29:40,080 --> 07:29:44,320
probably authentic. Like people really thought or they really were getting a headache or having

8389
07:29:44,320 --> 07:29:47,840
upset stomach or whatever else. But it doesn't tell you that it was caused by the vaccine. If

8390
07:29:47,840 --> 07:29:50,960
a million people get vaccinated, some percentage of them are going to have headaches are going to

8391
07:29:50,960 --> 07:29:54,400
have, you know, sore stomachs or whatever the fuck else. It doesn't mean anybody's making

8392
07:29:54,400 --> 07:29:57,840
anything up. You don't need people to be bad faith or making shit up to have a large,

8393
07:29:58,880 --> 07:30:00,880
a large theirs entry.

8394
07:30:00,000 --> 07:30:01,920
for a lot of various entries for the vaccines.

8395
07:30:01,920 --> 07:30:05,040
It was just 'cause it was the largest single dose

8396
07:30:05,040 --> 07:30:07,440
of a new vaccine given in all of US history.

8397
07:30:07,440 --> 07:30:09,280
So you probably expected to be paired

8398
07:30:09,280 --> 07:30:10,840
with a whole bunch of people making complaints

8399
07:30:10,840 --> 07:30:12,520
about adverse events or whatever.

8400
07:30:13,600 --> 07:30:14,940
- A giant penis or it turned me into the hulker.

8401
07:30:14,940 --> 07:30:16,320
No, it says like, I have a penis on my forehead now

8402
07:30:16,320 --> 07:30:17,800
or something like people who are clearly messing around,

8403
07:30:17,800 --> 07:30:18,960
but then there are ones that should be,

8404
07:30:18,960 --> 07:30:20,120
that seem more credible that are lies.

8405
07:30:20,120 --> 07:30:21,400
But more importantly than that,

8406
07:30:21,400 --> 07:30:23,120
it's not an indicator that something happened.

8407
07:30:23,120 --> 07:30:24,520
What it is, it's just this mass reporting system.

8408
07:30:24,520 --> 07:30:25,960
So there's so much data.

8409
07:30:25,960 --> 07:30:27,560
And then officials can look at that

8410
07:30:27,560 --> 07:30:28,880
and then also actually several other

8411
07:30:28,880 --> 07:30:31,160
in a similar databases to find just a little blip of noise.

8412
07:30:31,160 --> 07:30:33,800
And this is actually how they found that the Janssen vaccine

8413
07:30:33,800 --> 07:30:35,120
and the thrombocytopenia, the TTS,

8414
07:30:35,120 --> 07:30:37,240
there were 10 confirmed deaths in America

8415
07:30:37,240 --> 07:30:38,080
from the Janssen vaccine.

8416
07:30:38,080 --> 07:30:39,840
This is absolutely true and we have to admit this.

8417
07:30:39,840 --> 07:30:41,120
Number one, it wasn't an mRNA vaccine.

8418
07:30:41,120 --> 07:30:42,200
It was a vector-based vaccine.

8419
07:30:42,200 --> 07:30:43,040
So people don't know that.

8420
07:30:43,040 --> 07:30:44,360
But we have to acknowledge right out of,

8421
07:30:44,360 --> 07:30:46,400
I think 20 or 30 million doses administered,

8422
07:30:46,400 --> 07:30:48,320
there were 10 exceptionally adverse events

8423
07:30:48,320 --> 07:30:49,560
and they found that through these databases.

8424
07:30:49,560 --> 07:30:50,760
So the databases are good and important

8425
07:30:50,760 --> 07:30:52,000
and we need to have them and use them.

8426
07:30:52,000 --> 07:30:52,880
But we also need to help people understand

8427
07:30:52,880 --> 07:30:53,700
what the hell they are,

8428
07:30:53,700 --> 07:30:54,960
that they're not just like a list of,

8429
07:30:54,960 --> 07:30:57,080
oh, I died from a vaccine, that's not what it is.

8430
07:30:57,080 --> 07:30:58,920
What compels, from your perspective,

8431
07:30:58,920 --> 07:31:00,640
what compels someone to do those videos

8432
07:31:00,640 --> 07:31:02,320
where they get the shakes?

8433
07:31:02,320 --> 07:31:03,240
- Yeah, no, I've seen some of those.

8434
07:31:03,240 --> 07:31:04,280
I don't- - Do you think it's like,

8435
07:31:04,280 --> 07:31:05,720
do you think it's like a psychosis?

8436
07:31:05,720 --> 07:31:08,080
Like they sincerely got one-shotted by like an anti-vaxxer

8437
07:31:08,080 --> 07:31:09,520
and they think that they're actually experiencing

8438
07:31:09,520 --> 07:31:11,080
this adverse effect? - Maybe, but probably not.

8439
07:31:11,080 --> 07:31:12,680
I use these grifters. - I think it's just,

8440
07:31:12,680 --> 07:31:14,680
like what compels someone, like, you know,

8441
07:31:14,680 --> 07:31:15,960
when there's like a reporter on site

8442
07:31:15,960 --> 07:31:16,960
and there's someone behind them just like trying

8443
07:31:16,960 --> 07:31:17,960
to make it all about them?

8444
07:31:17,960 --> 07:31:18,800
Like, I think it's kind of like that.

8445
07:31:18,800 --> 07:31:20,280
It's just like, hey, getting off on like,

8446
07:31:20,280 --> 07:31:21,880
hey, I made a dump clip and it went viral.

8447
07:31:21,880 --> 07:31:26,880
- That's my best guess, but it's so unbelievably, clearly fake.

8448
07:31:26,880 --> 07:31:27,880
- Well, we don't know, we don't know.

8449
07:31:27,880 --> 07:31:32,320
A lot of Debras and Barbros, in, they always,

8450
07:31:32,320 --> 07:31:33,720
they always have a very similar look to them.

8451
07:31:33,720 --> 07:31:34,560
I don't know why.

8452
07:31:34,560 --> 07:31:35,400
Maybe that's what the vaccine was doing.

8453
07:31:35,400 --> 07:31:36,480
They were targeting the Debras and the Barbros,

8454
07:31:36,480 --> 07:31:38,200
but it's always- - Or it transforms them into

8455
07:31:38,200 --> 07:31:39,680
parents of Debras. - Yeah, that's true.

8456
07:31:39,680 --> 07:31:42,880
That's, you know what, I think you're nailing it.

8457
07:31:42,880 --> 07:31:44,240
I think it's the vaccine that turns them into that.

8458
07:31:44,240 --> 07:31:46,360
- Well, they looked very different beforehand

8459
07:31:46,360 --> 07:31:47,840
and now they got the shakes.

8460
07:31:47,840 --> 07:31:48,680
Someone in the chat's asking,

8461
07:31:48,680 --> 07:31:50,280
what's the difference between Victor and MRNA?

8462
07:31:50,280 --> 07:31:52,640
- So, traditionally, many, all vaccines,

8463
07:31:52,640 --> 07:31:54,520
up until MRNA vaccines, I think all vaccines,

8464
07:31:54,520 --> 07:31:56,960
have been based on some part of a virus or a whole virus.

8465
07:31:56,960 --> 07:31:57,800
So the way that, I mean,

8466
07:31:57,800 --> 07:31:59,840
we can just do a quick prime round of vaccines, I guess.

8467
07:31:59,840 --> 07:32:02,280
What a vaccine is, is you take either an attenuated virus,

8468
07:32:02,280 --> 07:32:03,960
so a whole virus that's been kind of deactivated,

8469
07:32:03,960 --> 07:32:05,040
or you can take a component of a virus,

8470
07:32:05,040 --> 07:32:06,920
like, say, a spike protein, and then you inject that,

8471
07:32:06,920 --> 07:32:09,480
and then the cellular machinery creates antibodies,

8472
07:32:09,480 --> 07:32:11,160
recognizes the antigen, creates antibodies,

8473
07:32:11,160 --> 07:32:12,600
so that if it encounters that again,

8474
07:32:12,600 --> 07:32:14,480
it has the defenses ready to mount an attack immediately,

8475
07:32:14,480 --> 07:32:16,280
as opposed to having to wait that like week or so

8476
07:32:16,280 --> 07:32:18,440
for the body to be ready to fight that.

8477
07:32:18,440 --> 07:32:19,840
And so, almost all the vaccines have been that.

8478
07:32:19,840 --> 07:32:21,880
Now, MRNA vaccines, there's an MRNA transcript

8479
07:32:21,880 --> 07:32:24,720
that goes into the cell that is translated into the protein.

8480
07:32:24,720 --> 07:32:25,840
So instead of injecting the protein,

8481
07:32:25,840 --> 07:32:26,920
we inject the instructions with the protein,

8482
07:32:26,920 --> 07:32:28,760
the cell makes the protein, and then it reacts to that.

8483
07:32:28,760 --> 07:32:30,120
So it's just like one extra little step.

8484
07:32:30,120 --> 07:32:32,080
So all of this gene therapy and all,

8485
07:32:32,080 --> 07:32:33,480
it's not gene therapy, it's none of these things,

8486
07:32:33,480 --> 07:32:34,760
those are completely different things.

8487
07:32:34,760 --> 07:32:36,560
But so that's kind of this really brilliant innovation,

8488
07:32:36,560 --> 07:32:39,760
because until this point, you've had to inject a virus,

8489
07:32:39,760 --> 07:32:41,280
or a part of a virus, in order for a vaccine to work.

8490
07:32:41,280 --> 07:32:42,520
And so, there are issues sometimes.

8491
07:32:42,520 --> 07:32:44,680
Like, there was a batch of polio vaccines

8492
07:32:44,680 --> 07:32:46,480
where the virus was properly attenuated,

8493
07:32:46,480 --> 07:32:47,720
and it just gave people polio.

8494
07:32:47,720 --> 07:32:48,920
And like, a few dozen people died

8495
07:32:48,920 --> 07:32:50,800
from that not good, it's not good.

8496
07:32:50,800 --> 07:32:52,600
So now, here's, I think, there is no viral component

8497
07:32:52,600 --> 07:32:54,840
being injected at all, as your body makes the spike protein,

8498
07:32:54,840 --> 07:32:57,000
and then creates antibodies for that, but it's brilliant.

8499
07:32:57,000 --> 07:32:58,880
I mean, and also, there's like many different use case

8500
07:32:58,880 --> 07:32:59,720
for MRNA, right?

8501
07:32:59,720 --> 07:33:01,560
Like, it's not just for COVID,

8502
07:33:01,560 --> 07:33:03,920
people are talking about how this is going to be,

8503
07:33:03,920 --> 07:33:06,480
this is going to change even cancer therapy potentially.

8504
07:33:06,480 --> 07:33:08,800
They're already for remarkable results

8505
07:33:08,800 --> 07:33:09,640
for pancreatic cancer.

8506
07:33:09,640 --> 07:33:11,480
It's one of the most incredible advancements

8507
07:33:11,480 --> 07:33:13,200
in science in the past 10, 20 years.

8508
07:33:13,200 --> 07:33:14,640
Because pancreatic cancer traditionally has been one

8509
07:33:14,640 --> 07:33:15,720
with the highest mortality rate.

8510
07:33:15,720 --> 07:33:20,600
And so, with early testing here, we've seen incredible results

8511
07:33:20,600 --> 07:33:21,800
with that, a bunch of other stuff,

8512
07:33:21,800 --> 07:33:23,680
I think, I forget which other ones they're working on,

8513
07:33:23,680 --> 07:33:24,680
even the common cold.

8514
07:33:24,680 --> 07:33:26,920
- We got someone who's an anti-MRNA guy in the chat.

8515
07:33:26,920 --> 07:33:28,120
I'm going to read you his comment.

8516
07:33:28,120 --> 07:33:30,120
So now, you genetically modify one of your own cells

8517
07:33:30,120 --> 07:33:31,800
to produce the disease, dot, dot, dot.

8518
07:33:31,800 --> 07:33:32,640
- No.

8519
07:33:32,640 --> 07:33:33,480
- That could never go wrong.

8520
07:33:33,480 --> 07:33:34,520
- But you don't do that?

8521
07:33:34,520 --> 07:33:35,560
It's an mRNA transcript.

8522
07:33:35,560 --> 07:33:37,560
It's not, like, your genome is in the nucleus,

8523
07:33:37,560 --> 07:33:38,680
and then your mRNA is out here.

8524
07:33:38,680 --> 07:33:40,720
So, your transcription of genes is happening all the time,

8525
07:33:40,720 --> 07:33:42,200
and these little mRNAs float out of the nucleus

8526
07:33:42,200 --> 07:33:43,600
into the cytoplasm of the cell,

8527
07:33:43,600 --> 07:33:45,600
and then the ribosomes translate those to make proteins.

8528
07:33:45,600 --> 07:33:46,640
So, it's just another mRNA transcript.

8529
07:33:46,640 --> 07:33:47,920
You're not altering the genome.

8530
07:33:47,920 --> 07:33:48,880
You're not changing your DNA.

8531
07:33:48,880 --> 07:33:49,680
It is not gene therapy.

8532
07:33:49,680 --> 07:33:50,520
All of that is lies.

8533
07:33:50,520 --> 07:33:52,840
Anywhere that you read that it's changing your DNA is a lie.

8534
07:33:52,840 --> 07:33:54,160
- So, what if I want to change my DNA?

8535
07:33:54,160 --> 07:33:55,680
- So, well, gene therapy is a thing.

8536
07:33:55,680 --> 07:33:56,640
Or, like, CRISPR?

8537
07:33:56,640 --> 07:33:58,280
Yes, CRISPR is one way to do gene therapy.

8538
07:33:58,280 --> 07:33:59,120
- Is CRISPR real?

8539
07:33:59,120 --> 07:34:00,120
Like, how far is CRISPR real?

8540
07:34:00,120 --> 07:34:02,760
- So, I could, tomorrow, I could have, like,

8541
07:34:02,760 --> 07:34:05,040
a child is going to be six foot 11.

8542
07:34:05,040 --> 07:34:05,960
- Well, okay, so it can dunk.

8543
07:34:05,960 --> 07:34:06,800
- That's way more complicated.

8544
07:34:06,800 --> 07:34:08,720
So, for polygenic traits, this is very difficult.

8545
07:34:08,720 --> 07:34:10,720
So, the current application of something like CRISPR

8546
07:34:10,720 --> 07:34:17,720
is that when you have diseases that are just, like, single base pair mutations, so, like, sickle cell and EMR, cystic fibrosis, stuff like that, it's just, you need to change one base.

8547
07:34:17,720 --> 07:34:20,520
So, you can grab some cells, you can grab some progenitor cells, or, you know, whatever it is.

8548
07:34:20,520 --> 07:34:24,840
And then, you can use CRISPR to excise and insert the correct gene, and then put it back in.

8549
07:34:24,840 --> 07:34:27,400
And then, that will divide, and then you'll have a lot of cells with the correct gene.

8550
07:34:27,400 --> 07:34:28,680
And then, you're cured of that disease.

8551
07:34:28,680 --> 07:34:29,680
- What about the dunking gene?

8552
07:34:29,680 --> 07:34:31,080
- The dunking gene, I don't know if that's been isolated yet.

8553
07:34:31,080 --> 07:34:31,920
I don't know if I can afford that.

8554
07:34:31,920 --> 07:34:35,560
- How do we advance science so that they isolate the balding gene and the dunking gene?

8555
07:34:35,560 --> 07:34:40,560
- I love how he's so bored in this, because he has no fucking interest whatsoever that it's just, like, the funniest jokes ever.

8556
07:34:40,560 --> 07:34:43,560
- I want, look, I'll be straight with you.

8557
07:34:43,560 --> 07:34:46,560
I want LeBron James with a good hairline, to be my next of kin.

8558
07:34:46,560 --> 07:34:47,560
- Okay.

8559
07:34:47,560 --> 07:34:53,560
- I want the piker legacy to continue with LeBron James, but with a cool hairline.

8560
07:34:53,560 --> 07:34:57,560
- Well, I think step one would be to haul all of these budget cuts and the stranglehold of the scientific community.

8561
07:34:57,560 --> 07:34:58,560
- Okay.

8562
07:34:58,560 --> 07:35:00,560
- Let's reverse that. Get the money flowing down.

8563
07:35:00,000 --> 07:35:01,940
back into science and then who knows, we might get there.

8564
07:35:01,940 --> 07:35:03,140
- Okay, all right, well, that's,

8565
07:35:03,140 --> 07:35:05,100
I was already planning on advancing that interest,

8566
07:35:05,100 --> 07:35:06,660
but now I'm definitely more in favor of it.

8567
07:35:06,660 --> 07:35:08,180
- It's probably the best reason to get Trump out of power

8568
07:35:08,180 --> 07:35:09,300
is to make sure the science is going

8569
07:35:09,300 --> 07:35:10,980
to get this offspring you're talking about.

8570
07:35:10,980 --> 07:35:12,420
- Let's talk about one good thing

8571
07:35:12,420 --> 07:35:14,620
that RFK Jr. is invested in.

8572
07:35:14,620 --> 07:35:17,220
And even Pete Haggs had has brought this up as well.

8573
07:35:17,220 --> 07:35:20,020
Mass availability of testosterone replacement therapy.

8574
07:35:20,020 --> 07:35:21,220
I am a sincere advocate.

8575
07:35:21,220 --> 07:35:24,340
I'm 35, full disclosure, 35 years old.

8576
07:35:24,340 --> 07:35:26,620
I feel like, I mean, I keep doing blood work

8577
07:35:26,620 --> 07:35:28,420
and my testosterone levels are fine,

8578
07:35:28,420 --> 07:35:31,100
but they could be better, okay.

8579
07:35:31,100 --> 07:35:31,940
- How do you go to the gas station?

8580
07:35:31,940 --> 07:35:32,940
Get some of those, they got some problems.

8581
07:35:32,940 --> 07:35:33,780
- That doesn't seem very scientific.

8582
07:35:33,780 --> 07:35:34,620
- It doesn't work.

8583
07:35:34,620 --> 07:35:35,460
- I don't know.

8584
07:35:35,460 --> 07:35:37,620
I haven't tried the gas station controls.

8585
07:35:37,620 --> 07:35:38,820
What's your, what's your thought on that?

8586
07:35:38,820 --> 07:35:41,100
I mean, I, this is my most like, I guess,

8587
07:35:41,100 --> 07:35:43,020
not very socialist take is like,

8588
07:35:43,020 --> 07:35:44,340
I'm a bit of a transhumanist.

8589
07:35:44,340 --> 07:35:45,180
- Okay.

8590
07:35:45,180 --> 07:35:46,300
- Where, like a bit, like not like, not cringe,

8591
07:35:46,300 --> 07:35:48,180
not like the Brian, whatever the fuck guy who's like.

8592
07:35:48,180 --> 07:35:49,180
- Yeah, the guy.

8593
07:35:49,180 --> 07:35:51,180
- A bit of a transhumanist.

8594
07:35:51,180 --> 07:35:52,300
Oh my God, kill me.

8595
07:35:52,300 --> 07:35:53,380
- Bring his erections at night.

8596
07:35:53,380 --> 07:35:54,220
That's too much.

8597
07:35:54,220 --> 07:35:55,060
- Take blood from his son or whatever.

8598
07:35:55,060 --> 07:35:58,740
- Yeah, yeah, that's too much, oh, we can talk about that too,

8599
07:35:58,740 --> 07:35:59,580
because I feel like that's also fascinating.

8600
07:35:59,580 --> 07:36:00,420
- Yeah, I think that's nuts.

8601
07:36:00,420 --> 07:36:01,580
- But like, you know, a little bit of TRT,

8602
07:36:01,580 --> 07:36:02,420
how do you feel about that?

8603
07:36:02,420 --> 07:36:04,380
- I mean, I'm not, I don't think I'm opposed to that,

8604
07:36:04,380 --> 07:36:05,380
certainly not on any ethical grounds.

8605
07:36:05,380 --> 07:36:07,940
I mean, definitely whatever you want to do to your body,

8606
07:36:07,940 --> 07:36:09,660
I think is your choice, I think for the most part.

8607
07:36:09,660 --> 07:36:10,500
- Okay.

8608
07:36:10,500 --> 07:36:11,340
- Yeah.

8609
07:36:11,340 --> 07:36:12,180
- All right.

8610
07:36:12,180 --> 07:36:14,460
So you're, you're in favor of, of bodega peptides.

8611
07:36:14,460 --> 07:36:15,300
- Only.

8612
07:36:15,300 --> 07:36:17,060
- But I think that the problem, like what,

8613
07:36:17,060 --> 07:36:18,860
like if you have a clinical need, you know what I mean?

8614
07:36:18,860 --> 07:36:19,700
- Yeah.

8615
07:36:19,700 --> 07:36:21,020
- Or, and it could be purely recreational

8616
07:36:21,020 --> 07:36:25,140
or gains, yeah, but I mean, critical need for games.

8617
07:36:25,140 --> 07:36:25,980
- Yeah.

8618
07:36:25,980 --> 07:36:27,340
- Yeah, I mean, I don't, yeah, I'm not opposed to it.

8619
07:36:27,340 --> 07:36:28,380
- Brian Johnson is a blood disease now.

8620
07:36:28,380 --> 07:36:29,220
Oh yeah, I heard that.

8621
07:36:29,220 --> 07:36:30,060
- I heard that too.

8622
07:36:30,060 --> 07:36:32,300
- He's nuts, he's nuts, yeah.

8623
07:36:32,300 --> 07:36:33,180
- I feel like there's no way to live.

8624
07:36:33,180 --> 07:36:34,020
- He wants to live forever.

8625
07:36:34,020 --> 07:36:35,380
I think he's going to die in five years, right?

8626
07:36:35,380 --> 07:36:37,340
- Yeah, I mean, and also it's like, even if you were--

8627
07:36:37,340 --> 07:36:39,020
- I feel like I might be wrong,

8628
07:36:39,020 --> 07:36:40,260
'cause I feel like I gave this chick last time,

8629
07:36:40,260 --> 07:36:41,900
I don't know if somebody correct me or not.

8630
07:36:43,420 --> 07:36:45,100
I feel like actually Brian Johnson stuff.

8631
07:36:45,100 --> 07:36:48,220
He's like, he's pretty kind of out there, personality-wise,

8632
07:36:48,220 --> 07:36:49,060
but I feel like most of his stuff

8633
07:36:49,060 --> 07:36:51,620
is actually fairly science-y-based.

8634
07:36:51,620 --> 07:36:54,780
Like, I don't know if, like, how Andrew,

8635
07:36:54,780 --> 07:36:56,860
Huberman first started.

8636
07:36:56,860 --> 07:36:58,580
I feel like I've seen Brian Johnson do a couple things

8637
07:36:58,580 --> 07:37:00,460
where he's like, what are the most important things

8638
07:37:00,460 --> 07:37:02,860
to make sure your brain is like healthy or whatever?

8639
07:37:02,860 --> 07:37:04,100
And every time I see him put out stuff like this,

8640
07:37:04,100 --> 07:37:06,860
it's like, number one, make sure that you always get

8641
07:37:06,860 --> 07:37:09,100
eight hours of sleep every night.

8642
07:37:09,100 --> 07:37:13,100
Number two, make sure that you're eating a balanced diet.

8643
07:37:13,100 --> 07:37:15,060
And then maybe at like number four, you know,

8644
07:37:15,060 --> 07:37:17,620
he'll be like, oh, like, if you're short on some vitamins,

8645
07:37:17,620 --> 07:37:18,740
try my supplements or whatever.

8646
07:37:18,740 --> 07:37:19,940
We have the blah, blah, blah, blah.

8647
07:37:19,940 --> 07:37:21,900
But I feel like for the most part, I haven't seen,

8648
07:37:21,900 --> 07:37:23,060
I don't know if I've seen Brian Johnson

8649
07:37:23,060 --> 07:37:26,180
push some like weird pseudoscience bullshit.

8650
07:37:27,860 --> 07:37:29,100
But like, I feel like all of his advice

8651
07:37:29,100 --> 07:37:31,540
is actually insanely grounded and normal,

8652
07:37:31,540 --> 07:37:34,100
but I don't know, maybe I'm missing something there.

8653
07:37:35,660 --> 07:37:36,860
- Sending your lifeline.

8654
07:37:36,860 --> 07:37:38,940
Even if you were genuinely sending your life,

8655
07:37:38,940 --> 07:37:41,380
like, let's say you were like, 80 an hour dying at 95.

8656
07:37:41,380 --> 07:37:43,220
Is it worth it to have the extra 15 years

8657
07:37:43,220 --> 07:37:45,700
also be this like rigid, structured way

8658
07:37:45,700 --> 07:37:47,500
where you're not even like eating a cookie?

8659
07:37:47,500 --> 07:37:48,500
- Yeah, it depends.

8660
07:37:51,620 --> 07:37:55,020
- It's just so many like level one, I'm sorry, bro.

8661
07:37:55,020 --> 07:37:58,220
It's okay, I just gotta, we should,

8662
07:37:58,220 --> 07:37:59,660
we should do this on like at the end of stream

8663
07:37:59,660 --> 07:38:00,820
and then I can drink beforehand

8664
07:38:00,820 --> 07:38:03,300
so I can like get myself mentally prepared for.

8665
07:38:04,140 --> 07:38:04,980
- That's what you're doing.

8666
07:38:04,980 --> 07:38:05,900
You need to be able to eat a cookie.

8667
07:38:05,900 --> 07:38:07,820
- Yeah, the tragedy though, is that everybody who's like

8668
07:38:07,820 --> 07:38:09,180
obsessed in like part of this cult,

8669
07:38:09,180 --> 07:38:10,660
that is like anti-science and thinks that they're like

8670
07:38:10,660 --> 07:38:12,260
getting these like secrets that the establishment

8671
07:38:12,260 --> 07:38:13,180
doesn't want you to know about,

8672
07:38:13,180 --> 07:38:14,500
is then like not gonna be on board

8673
07:38:14,500 --> 07:38:16,140
for like actual anti-aging research.

8674
07:38:16,140 --> 07:38:17,620
Like I don't think I've ever seen Brian do that,

8675
07:38:17,620 --> 07:38:19,300
like they don't want you to know about this.

8676
07:38:19,300 --> 07:38:21,100
But if he has, I'm gonna be interested

8677
07:38:21,100 --> 07:38:22,460
if I said or something, I don't know.

8678
07:38:22,460 --> 07:38:23,500
- It's a real thing, right there?

8679
07:38:23,500 --> 07:38:26,380
Like Sinescence is a relatively arbitrary cellular process

8680
07:38:26,380 --> 07:38:27,540
and we can study it and we can learn about it

8681
07:38:27,540 --> 07:38:28,780
and we can scientifically probably

8682
07:38:28,780 --> 07:38:30,100
at some point slow aging.

8683
07:38:30,100 --> 07:38:31,220
But we're gonna do it by doing science

8684
07:38:31,220 --> 07:38:32,740
not by all this bullshit that you're on podcasting.

8685
07:38:32,740 --> 07:38:34,020
- Speaking of science, there was this one lady

8686
07:38:34,020 --> 07:38:35,020
I wanted to ask you about, I forget,

8687
07:38:35,020 --> 07:38:37,180
she like went to Brazil to get this surgery done on herself,

8688
07:38:37,180 --> 07:38:38,860
she was ahead of like some pharmaceutical company.

8689
07:38:38,860 --> 07:38:39,700
You know what I'm talking about?

8690
07:38:39,700 --> 07:38:40,540
It's not where we're gonna go.

8691
07:38:40,540 --> 07:38:41,820
- Someone in the chat might know who I'm talking about.

8692
07:38:41,820 --> 07:38:45,800
I remember watching some fucking TikTok video or something,

8693
07:38:45,800 --> 07:38:50,960
but this lady was the head of some pharmaceutical company

8694
07:38:50,960 --> 07:38:53,100
and they were doing anti-aging research.

8695
07:38:53,100 --> 07:38:54,780
No, it wasn't Elizabeth Holmes, guys, come on.

8696
07:38:54,780 --> 07:38:56,300
Give me something, you guys are embarrassing me.

8697
07:38:56,300 --> 07:38:58,340
And for Professor Dave-- - That documentary too though.

8698
07:38:58,340 --> 07:39:00,020
- Oh, I watched it already. - I just insane.

8699
07:39:00,020 --> 07:39:00,860
- I can't wait. - Yeah.

8700
07:39:00,860 --> 07:39:02,340
- Nathan Fielder is one of the premier

8701
07:39:02,340 --> 07:39:03,500
comedic geniuses of our time.

8702
07:39:03,500 --> 07:39:04,460
- Yeah, he was brilliant in this.

8703
07:39:04,460 --> 07:39:05,860
It was really, really good.

8704
07:39:05,860 --> 07:39:07,140
Professor Dave, you changed organic chemistry for me.

8705
07:39:07,140 --> 07:39:09,260
Thanks for teaching me SN1, SN2, I'm off the med school.

8706
07:39:09,260 --> 07:39:10,100
- You're very welcome.

8707
07:39:10,100 --> 07:39:12,060
- It's so funny to me how the small proportion

8708
07:39:12,060 --> 07:39:14,060
of my viewers are still in that camp,

8709
07:39:14,060 --> 07:39:15,620
because I started out by making organic chemistry tutorials.

8710
07:39:15,620 --> 07:39:16,460
That was what I did,

8711
07:39:16,460 --> 07:39:17,300
and now I'm this whole other thing.

8712
07:39:17,300 --> 07:39:18,580
- What's your educational background?

8713
07:39:18,580 --> 07:39:19,740
- I did a chemistry BA,

8714
07:39:19,740 --> 07:39:22,220
and then I started a master's in synthetic organic chemistry,

8715
07:39:22,220 --> 07:39:23,980
eventually got a master's in science ed.

8716
07:39:23,980 --> 07:39:24,820
Chemistry, long story short.

8717
07:39:24,820 --> 07:39:26,540
- So you are also one of the few people that's on YouTube

8718
07:39:26,540 --> 07:39:29,420
that literally got the proper education for what you do.

8719
07:39:29,420 --> 07:39:30,700
'Cause I have a political science degree.

8720
07:39:30,700 --> 07:39:32,180
Many people on YouTube that talk about issues

8721
07:39:32,180 --> 07:39:34,500
don't actually have the proper educational background at all.

8722
07:39:34,500 --> 07:39:35,820
- Sure, I mean, just fine, you can do that.

8723
07:39:35,820 --> 07:39:37,820
I'm just, it's rare to find someone.

8724
07:39:37,820 --> 07:39:40,700
- I feel like to be-- - I have never not to knock anything.

8725
07:39:40,700 --> 07:39:41,900
And listen, if you're going to college,

8726
07:39:41,900 --> 07:39:43,380
you should absolutely get a degree, okay?

8727
07:39:43,380 --> 07:39:45,420
I tell Nathan that, everybody that you should go get a degree.

8728
07:39:45,420 --> 07:39:46,340
I wish I had my degree.

8729
07:39:46,340 --> 07:39:47,500
It sucks that I had to drop out.

8730
07:39:47,500 --> 07:39:50,860
I have never seen anybody lean so heavily

8731
07:39:50,860 --> 07:39:54,260
into like a fucking BA in polycyte in my entire life

8732
07:39:54,260 --> 07:39:56,740
for 37, 39, 40 year old dude.

8733
07:39:56,740 --> 07:40:00,020
So yeah, you know, I don't wanna brag or anything.

8734
07:40:00,000 --> 07:40:02,400
But, you know, I got to be in Polish.

8735
07:40:02,400 --> 07:40:03,880
So I just like, where are you?

8736
07:40:03,880 --> 07:40:05,140
Say hello.

8737
07:40:05,140 --> 07:40:06,480
That's hilarious.

8738
07:40:06,480 --> 07:40:09,160
I've never my life seen somebody lean so hard

8739
07:40:09,160 --> 07:40:10,600
into a degree like this motherfucker has

8740
07:40:10,600 --> 07:40:11,860
for the past few years.

8741
07:40:11,860 --> 07:40:12,700
- Nice communicator.

8742
07:40:12,700 --> 07:40:13,600
You really ought to have a bachelor's degree

8743
07:40:13,600 --> 07:40:14,440
in a scientific field.

8744
07:40:14,440 --> 07:40:15,760
Now, to be clear, I don't have a terminal degree,

8745
07:40:15,760 --> 07:40:16,920
I don't have a doctor, but I don't posture

8746
07:40:16,920 --> 07:40:20,440
as like a leading premier authority in a particular field.

8747
07:40:20,440 --> 07:40:21,840
When I make content on climate change

8748
07:40:21,840 --> 07:40:23,880
or whatever it is, I kind of deliver

8749
07:40:23,880 --> 07:40:25,440
what is the understanding of the scientific community.

8750
07:40:25,440 --> 07:40:26,360
I disseminate that for the viewer.

8751
07:40:26,360 --> 07:40:27,200
I'm sort of the conduit

8752
07:40:27,200 --> 07:40:28,200
between the scientific community and the public.

8753
07:40:28,200 --> 07:40:29,920
And then, I'll have interviews with, you know,

8754
07:40:29,920 --> 07:40:30,760
with top experts.

8755
07:40:30,760 --> 07:40:31,600
- We found him, by the way.

8756
07:40:31,600 --> 07:40:34,520
Her name is Liz Parrish, CEO of BioVivaUSA.

8757
07:40:34,520 --> 07:40:36,720
The woman who wants to genetically engineer you.

8758
07:40:36,720 --> 07:40:39,080
She's the founder and CEO of BioViva Sciences USA

8759
07:40:39,080 --> 07:40:41,080
and she was patient zero on September 2015,

8760
07:40:41,080 --> 07:40:42,720
Parrish traveled to Columbia, not Brazil, sorry,

8761
07:40:42,720 --> 07:40:43,560
to become the first human to undergo

8762
07:40:43,560 --> 07:40:46,140
experimental anti-aging gene therapies

8763
07:40:46,140 --> 07:40:49,720
posting on telomerase reverse transcriptase turt.

8764
07:40:49,720 --> 07:40:51,200
I'm butchering that.

8765
07:40:51,200 --> 07:40:52,040
- Telomerase, yeah.

8766
07:40:52,040 --> 07:40:53,880
- To lengthen telomerase and follow statin

8767
07:40:53,880 --> 07:40:55,640
to inhibit myostatin for muscle mass.

8768
07:40:55,640 --> 07:40:56,480
I'm butchering all of that.

8769
07:40:56,480 --> 07:40:58,520
I'm not a science communicator,

8770
07:40:58,520 --> 07:41:00,360
contrary to popular opinion in their own.

8771
07:41:00,360 --> 07:41:01,960
In 2020, she expanded herself experimentation

8772
07:41:01,960 --> 07:41:06,000
to include Clotho and PGC1A.

8773
07:41:06,000 --> 07:41:07,200
Have you heard about this at all?

8774
07:41:07,200 --> 07:41:08,040
- I don't know the specific,

8775
07:41:08,040 --> 07:41:09,280
I mean, I know what telomeres are

8776
07:41:09,280 --> 07:41:10,920
and I can talk about telomere lengthening

8777
07:41:10,920 --> 07:41:11,760
to combat senescence,

8778
07:41:11,760 --> 07:41:13,240
but I don't know what that specifically.

8779
07:41:13,240 --> 07:41:14,080
- Okay.

8780
07:41:14,080 --> 07:41:15,080
- Like that is scientific, right?

8781
07:41:15,080 --> 07:41:16,440
Like senescence is about shortening of telomeres

8782
07:41:16,440 --> 07:41:17,480
at the ends of the chromosomes.

8783
07:41:17,480 --> 07:41:19,120
So like you have coding DNA

8784
07:41:19,120 --> 07:41:20,360
and then you have these little caps at the ends

8785
07:41:20,360 --> 07:41:21,880
because when the genome replicates,

8786
07:41:21,880 --> 07:41:23,400
you always lose a couple of bases at each end

8787
07:41:23,400 --> 07:41:25,280
'cause the enzyme can't quite go to the end of the thing.

8788
07:41:25,280 --> 07:41:26,240
So it kind of shortens a little bit

8789
07:41:26,240 --> 07:41:27,080
every time.

8790
07:41:27,080 --> 07:41:27,900
So after a long time,

8791
07:41:27,900 --> 07:41:28,740
after decades and decades in your cells,

8792
07:41:28,740 --> 07:41:29,880
the genome might shorten such that it starts eating

8793
07:41:29,880 --> 07:41:30,720
into your genes.

8794
07:41:30,720 --> 07:41:31,560
That's a problem.

8795
07:41:31,560 --> 07:41:33,880
So you have enzymes that lengthen the telomeres,

8796
07:41:33,880 --> 07:41:35,720
but if, you know, after time, after a long time,

8797
07:41:35,720 --> 07:41:36,640
it's gonna be a problem.

8798
07:41:36,640 --> 07:41:38,800
- Okay, so let's look at her Instagram profile real quick

8799
07:41:38,800 --> 07:41:40,840
to see if she's actually de-aged.

8800
07:41:42,320 --> 07:41:43,880
If she's like 50, then hell yeah.

8801
07:41:43,880 --> 07:41:44,880
- That's lose parish.

8802
07:41:44,880 --> 07:41:46,060
And I would love for you to-

8803
07:41:48,240 --> 07:41:49,320
- I just saw him.

8804
07:41:50,360 --> 07:41:53,080
- Professor Dave has got to realize

8805
07:41:53,080 --> 07:41:55,280
that he's on the bad side right now.

8806
07:41:55,280 --> 07:41:57,440
He must realize that he's on the bad side.

8807
07:41:57,440 --> 07:41:59,400
Nothing about anything that he just says,

8808
07:41:59,400 --> 07:42:01,640
anything to do with de-aging, right?

8809
07:42:01,640 --> 07:42:02,520
It's what Professor Dave said.

8810
07:42:02,520 --> 07:42:04,960
You've got like, he said caps.

8811
07:42:04,960 --> 07:42:07,080
I thought it was just junk DNA that set the end

8812
07:42:07,080 --> 07:42:09,480
and every time your chromosomes, you know,

8813
07:42:09,480 --> 07:42:11,720
was it cellular mitosis or shit splits?

8814
07:42:11,720 --> 07:42:13,800
And then you create more cells and all that bullshit.

8815
07:42:13,800 --> 07:42:15,920
You lose a little bit at the end, but it's junk.

8816
07:42:15,920 --> 07:42:16,800
These are junk base pairs.

8817
07:42:16,800 --> 07:42:18,160
I don't encode for anything important.

8818
07:42:18,160 --> 07:42:19,800
But after you age a lot, theoretically,

8819
07:42:19,800 --> 07:42:20,880
you can start eating into your,

8820
07:42:20,880 --> 07:42:24,080
the actual relevant portions of your genome.

8821
07:42:24,080 --> 07:42:27,000
And now you're starting to lose pairs of things

8822
07:42:27,000 --> 07:42:28,480
that are parts of genes that are important.

8823
07:42:28,480 --> 07:42:30,920
But none of that has anything to do with aging,

8824
07:42:30,920 --> 07:42:33,840
like getting wrinkly skin or looking older or anything.

8825
07:42:33,840 --> 07:42:35,440
Or at least I'm not aware of it if it does.

8826
07:42:35,440 --> 07:42:36,520
I've never heard that before.

8827
07:42:36,520 --> 07:42:38,560
I thought these are other genetic processes

8828
07:42:38,560 --> 07:42:41,000
that are not at all, or other aging processes.

8829
07:42:41,000 --> 07:42:42,560
I have nothing to do with that.

8830
07:42:44,000 --> 07:42:45,520
- If she's like 50, then hell yeah.

8831
07:42:45,520 --> 07:42:46,520
- It's lose parish.

8832
07:42:46,520 --> 07:42:48,360
And I would love for you to read my new book.

8833
07:42:48,360 --> 07:42:50,920
And I would love if it inspired you to get out

8834
07:42:50,920 --> 07:42:52,800
and do something amazing with your life.

8835
07:42:52,800 --> 07:42:54,480
And often we think that we're not qualified,

8836
07:42:54,480 --> 07:42:56,120
that we think that we don't have the right background

8837
07:42:56,120 --> 07:42:58,200
to make the change that we wanna see in the world.

8838
07:42:58,200 --> 07:42:59,560
But right in front of you is sitting--

8839
07:42:59,560 --> 07:43:00,400
- 53 years old.

8840
07:43:00,400 --> 07:43:01,240
- She's 53?

8841
07:43:01,240 --> 07:43:02,080
Okay.

8842
07:43:02,080 --> 07:43:02,920
- So you're tapped in.

8843
07:43:02,920 --> 07:43:03,760
You believe it.

8844
07:43:09,080 --> 07:43:10,640
- What's the problem?

8845
07:43:10,640 --> 07:43:11,560
That she doesn't look like it?

8846
07:43:11,560 --> 07:43:15,520
Oh my God, 'cause he wants the Miami beach.

8847
07:43:15,520 --> 07:43:17,080
He wants the Mar-a-Lago look.

8848
07:43:21,240 --> 07:43:23,040
That's what a son is looking for.

8849
07:43:29,120 --> 07:43:30,240
- In front of you is sitting--

8850
07:43:30,240 --> 07:43:31,080
- 53 years old.

8851
07:43:31,080 --> 07:43:31,920
- She's 53?

8852
07:43:31,920 --> 07:43:32,760
- Okay.

8853
07:43:32,760 --> 07:43:33,600
- So you're tapped in.

8854
07:43:33,600 --> 07:43:34,440
You believe it.

8855
07:43:34,440 --> 07:43:35,600
- I don't think it has anything to do with the gene therapy.

8856
07:43:35,600 --> 07:43:36,440
- I think she looks like--

8857
07:43:36,440 --> 07:43:37,280
- Correct.

8858
07:43:37,280 --> 07:43:38,120
Thank you.

8859
07:43:38,120 --> 07:43:38,960
- Jesus.

8860
07:43:38,960 --> 07:43:40,240
- Like a younger looking 53 year old.

8861
07:43:40,240 --> 07:43:41,480
I mean, I would've guessed.

8862
07:43:44,560 --> 07:43:45,400
It's okay.

8863
07:43:45,400 --> 07:43:46,240
I'm sorry.

8864
07:43:52,240 --> 07:43:54,240
- It's early 40s.

8865
07:43:54,240 --> 07:43:57,240
- Two kids, mom, who saw a problem with medicine

8866
07:43:57,240 --> 07:43:59,240
and decided to change it.

8867
07:44:00,240 --> 07:44:02,240
- So, what do we think?

8868
07:44:02,240 --> 07:44:03,240
Off-rib.

8869
07:44:03,240 --> 07:44:05,240
Huxter or Pioneer?

8870
07:44:05,240 --> 07:44:06,240
- No idea.

8871
07:44:06,240 --> 07:44:09,240
All I can say is what I said, that telomere lengthening

8872
07:44:09,240 --> 07:44:11,240
is a way to combat senescence.

8873
07:44:11,240 --> 07:44:12,240
But I don't know what that place was

8874
07:44:12,240 --> 07:44:14,240
or what they were doing or how they were doing it.

8875
07:44:14,240 --> 07:44:15,080
You know what I mean?

8876
07:44:15,080 --> 07:44:16,080
- Yeah, which I don't think is--

8877
07:44:16,080 --> 07:44:16,920
Oh, thank you.

8878
07:44:16,920 --> 07:44:18,240
See, he must hate himself.

8879
07:44:18,240 --> 07:44:19,240
He's got to hate himself, right?

8880
07:44:19,240 --> 07:44:20,240
Does he?

8881
07:44:20,240 --> 07:44:22,240
Does he not realize he's on the wrong team?

8882
07:44:22,240 --> 07:44:24,240
This is like Sankoism.

8883
07:44:24,240 --> 07:44:26,240
This is the maga of the left when it comes to science shit.

8884
07:44:26,240 --> 07:44:28,240
This guy's fucking retarded.

8885
07:44:28,240 --> 07:44:30,240
And he knows all the answers too.

8886
07:44:30,240 --> 07:44:33,240
He has to have some feeling, right?

8887
07:44:33,240 --> 07:44:35,240
Give me a date, we're at a chop shop.

8888
07:44:35,240 --> 07:44:37,240
I guess we'd be just here on Israel Palestine for whatever.

8889
07:44:37,240 --> 07:44:39,240
But we would agree on all of this.

8890
07:44:39,240 --> 07:44:41,240
He must feel like he's talking to a retard.

8891
07:44:41,240 --> 07:44:42,240
I don't even know.

8892
07:44:42,240 --> 07:44:44,240
I don't know, man.

8893
07:44:45,240 --> 07:44:46,240
- I have no idea.

8894
07:44:46,240 --> 07:44:47,240
At least it's not like some wacky,

8895
07:44:47,240 --> 07:44:48,240
completely pseudoscientific thing.

8896
07:44:48,240 --> 07:44:49,240
- Okay.

8897
07:44:49,240 --> 07:44:50,240
- Yeah.

8898
07:44:50,240 --> 07:44:51,240
- Um.

8899
07:44:51,240 --> 07:44:52,240
- Yeah, she looks--

8900
07:44:52,240 --> 07:44:53,240
I mean, she looks great.

8901
07:44:53,240 --> 07:44:54,240
She looks great for 53.

8902
07:44:54,240 --> 07:44:55,240
She's doing--

8903
07:44:55,240 --> 07:44:56,240
- Yeah.

8904
07:44:56,240 --> 07:44:57,240
- You know, she's doing fine for herself, as seems.

8905
07:44:57,240 --> 07:44:58,240
- The thing is like--

8906
07:45:00,000 --> 07:45:02,420
(laughing)

8907
07:45:02,420 --> 07:45:05,220
The worst thing that San Francisco ever gave to the world

8908
07:45:06,400 --> 07:45:08,980
was this term was biohacker.

8909
07:45:08,980 --> 07:45:11,020
I sort of, this was the cringiest.

8910
07:45:11,020 --> 07:45:12,100
Anytime I hear somebody say it,

8911
07:45:12,100 --> 07:45:13,980
I just want to jump off a building.

8912
07:45:13,980 --> 07:45:15,340
There's not anything necessarily wrong

8913
07:45:15,340 --> 07:45:16,620
with the concept I guess,

8914
07:45:16,620 --> 07:45:19,320
but it's like, I biohack hardcore.

8915
07:45:19,320 --> 07:45:20,920
What do you mean by that?

8916
07:45:20,920 --> 07:45:22,780
One hour of no phone before sleep.

8917
07:45:22,780 --> 07:45:24,220
I always make sure I've got a soft mattress

8918
07:45:24,220 --> 07:45:25,300
with a cool pillow, okay.

8919
07:45:25,300 --> 07:45:27,740
You just do normal shit to be healthier.

8920
07:45:27,740 --> 07:45:28,580
No, it's bio.

8921
07:45:28,580 --> 07:45:31,060
It's biohacking.

8922
07:45:31,060 --> 07:45:32,300
She looks great for 53.

8923
07:45:32,300 --> 07:45:35,300
She's doing fine for herself, as seems.

8924
07:45:35,300 --> 07:45:37,820
The thing is, tell him your lengthening

8925
07:45:37,820 --> 07:45:39,300
doesn't make you look younger and more--

8926
07:45:39,300 --> 07:45:40,120
Thank you, thank you.

8927
07:45:40,120 --> 07:45:41,920
Yes, thank you.

8928
07:45:41,920 --> 07:45:42,760
Practive, you know what I mean?

8929
07:45:42,760 --> 07:45:44,740
It delays the breakdown of--

8930
07:45:44,740 --> 07:45:46,580
The destruction of the genetic material

8931
07:45:46,580 --> 07:45:48,300
for coding for all your cellular functions.

8932
07:45:48,300 --> 07:45:49,640
The chromosome.

8933
07:45:49,640 --> 07:45:50,940
It prevents enormous problems

8934
07:45:50,940 --> 07:45:53,860
from happening in your body due to genes being shortened.

8935
07:45:53,860 --> 07:45:54,740
So it's not like you would do that

8936
07:45:54,740 --> 07:45:55,900
and then like, hey, I looked 10 years ago,

8937
07:45:55,900 --> 07:45:56,740
that's not how that was.

8938
07:45:56,740 --> 07:46:01,620
I mean, that's what the sun thought.

8939
07:46:01,620 --> 07:46:03,220
He unironically thought that, though.

8940
07:46:06,180 --> 07:46:07,620
Familiar with Cuban medicine?

8941
07:46:07,620 --> 07:46:10,060
Oh, no.

8942
07:46:10,060 --> 07:46:11,780
By the way, in Cuba, I think they say

8943
07:46:11,780 --> 07:46:13,620
they've had like a cure for--

8944
07:46:13,620 --> 07:46:15,380
Is it Alzheimer's disease or cancer

8945
07:46:15,380 --> 07:46:17,380
for like the last 30 years, but for some reason,

8946
07:46:17,380 --> 07:46:19,020
nobody around the world will listen to them

8947
07:46:19,020 --> 07:46:20,060
because their commune is medicine?

8948
07:46:20,060 --> 07:46:22,860
Oh, no, my God.

8949
07:46:22,860 --> 07:46:24,300
Oh, my God.

8950
07:46:24,300 --> 07:46:27,140
How can he-- what is he-- how can he sit here

8951
07:46:27,140 --> 07:46:30,700
and how can he endure this?

8952
07:46:30,700 --> 07:46:31,980
So it's not like you would do that.

8953
07:46:31,980 --> 07:46:33,340
And then like, hey, I look 10 years younger.

8954
07:46:33,340 --> 07:46:34,180
Like, that's not how that was.

8955
07:46:34,180 --> 07:46:35,380
Are you familiar with Cuban medicine?

8956
07:46:35,380 --> 07:46:37,820
Like, any of the advances being made in Cuba?

8957
07:46:37,820 --> 07:46:42,300
I was in Cuba, and I talked to some of the leading experts.

8958
07:46:42,300 --> 07:46:43,980
And well, they've had a lung cancer vaccine.

8959
07:46:43,980 --> 07:46:45,340
It was a cooperative project, I believe,

8960
07:46:45,340 --> 07:46:46,780
with an American college way back in the day.

8961
07:46:46,780 --> 07:46:49,020
They've had it for like decades at this point.

8962
07:46:49,020 --> 07:46:51,020
The American blockade makes it--

8963
07:46:51,020 --> 07:46:52,740
or had made it in the past illegal for Americans

8964
07:46:52,740 --> 07:46:54,260
to go and get the vaccine, which is crazy.

8965
07:46:54,260 --> 07:46:59,540
And right now, they have, according to what they've told me,

8966
07:46:59,540 --> 07:47:02,700
the only effective way to--

8967
07:47:02,700 --> 07:47:04,540
He's going to do the Alzheimer's disease meme, which

8968
07:47:04,540 --> 07:47:06,700
is not true, American pharmaceuticals on the cutting edge.

8969
07:47:06,700 --> 07:47:09,140
We are so close to having-- I think we've done it.

8970
07:47:09,140 --> 07:47:11,180
We just are trying to make the drug safe to basically

8971
07:47:11,180 --> 07:47:13,420
cure Alzheimer's disease, a preventative pill

8972
07:47:13,420 --> 07:47:15,860
that would make it so you just don't develop it.

8973
07:47:15,860 --> 07:47:17,860
And Cuba, I suppose, has been sitting on this for decades.

8974
07:47:17,860 --> 07:47:19,140
It's not even remotely close.

8975
07:47:19,140 --> 07:47:20,460
He's going to say the Alzheimer's disease thing.

8976
07:47:20,460 --> 07:47:21,300
I know he's going to.

8977
07:47:21,300 --> 07:47:22,340
Oh, my God.

8978
07:47:22,340 --> 07:47:23,700
Treat Alzheimer's in dementia potentially?

8979
07:47:23,700 --> 07:47:24,540
I know that this is--

8980
07:47:24,540 --> 07:47:26,580
Oh, God, I heard he's so fucking retarded.

8981
07:47:26,580 --> 07:47:28,180
How can-- how can professor sit here?

8982
07:47:28,180 --> 07:47:29,780
How can he sit here and listen to this?

8983
07:47:29,780 --> 07:47:32,540
All this is all this science bullshit.

8984
07:47:32,540 --> 07:47:34,340
He must hate himself.

8985
07:47:34,340 --> 07:47:35,900
He has to hate himself right now.

8986
07:47:35,900 --> 07:47:39,060
Field where there's been a lot of smoke and mirrors

8987
07:47:39,060 --> 07:47:42,100
where countless amount of resources

8988
07:47:42,100 --> 07:47:42,940
have been poured into this.

8989
07:47:42,940 --> 07:47:45,460
And in the past, we found out that it was all fake.

8990
07:47:45,460 --> 07:47:46,940
That's not true.

8991
07:47:46,940 --> 07:47:50,220
Whoa, he's referring to the one paper that was a huge paper.

8992
07:47:50,220 --> 07:47:51,300
They got debunked.

8993
07:47:51,300 --> 07:47:54,540
They had to do with a particular--

8994
07:47:54,540 --> 07:47:55,820
I don't remember what it's called.

8995
07:47:55,820 --> 07:47:57,620
I want to say an alkaloid, but it's not--

8996
07:47:57,620 --> 07:48:01,660
it was a beta-something fucking thing.

8997
07:48:01,660 --> 07:48:02,620
What was it?

8998
07:48:02,620 --> 07:48:03,900
Somebody say the fucking thing.

8999
07:48:03,900 --> 07:48:05,980
It was a paper that got debunked

9000
07:48:05,980 --> 07:48:07,740
because a guy went through it as a researcher.

9001
07:48:07,740 --> 07:48:09,820
Oh, it was an amyloid beta plaque

9002
07:48:09,820 --> 07:48:11,740
that a bunch of people had been researching.

9003
07:48:11,740 --> 07:48:13,220
And it was a bad trail to go down

9004
07:48:13,220 --> 07:48:15,060
because the researcher had faked data on the paper.

9005
07:48:15,060 --> 07:48:16,340
And somebody went through this paper

9006
07:48:16,340 --> 07:48:18,620
using just simple image analysis.

9007
07:48:18,620 --> 07:48:21,340
And there are certain stains that you can create

9008
07:48:21,340 --> 07:48:23,140
as you're testing to see what genes are showing up or what.

9009
07:48:23,140 --> 07:48:25,180
I don't remember exactly because I'm going to fucking lab.

9010
07:48:25,180 --> 07:48:26,820
But basically, a guy went through and he's like, hey,

9011
07:48:26,820 --> 07:48:29,900
these two images that you say are from different slides

9012
07:48:29,900 --> 07:48:31,420
or whatever, this is literally just this image,

9013
07:48:31,420 --> 07:48:32,540
but brightened a little bit.

9014
07:48:32,540 --> 07:48:33,180
What the fuck?

9015
07:48:33,180 --> 07:48:35,220
And then we found out the paper was bullshit.

9016
07:48:35,220 --> 07:48:38,020
But it didn't set back the whole industry.

9017
07:48:38,020 --> 07:48:38,980
It wasn't all bullshit.

9018
07:48:38,980 --> 07:48:42,020
And we have the drugs right now, OK?

9019
07:48:42,020 --> 07:48:45,780
We have the drugs right now that prevent Alzheimer's disease.

9020
07:48:45,780 --> 07:48:47,860
We're just trying to tweak them so that they don't

9021
07:48:47,860 --> 07:48:49,660
fuck your brain up and cause you to bleed out in your brain.

9022
07:48:49,660 --> 07:48:50,940
We're just trying to make it so that because you

9023
07:48:50,940 --> 07:48:52,300
have to cross the blood brain barrier for these drugs

9024
07:48:52,300 --> 07:48:54,140
to get into your mind and for it to-- not your mind.

9025
07:48:54,140 --> 07:48:54,740
I should say your mind.

9026
07:48:54,740 --> 07:48:56,580
To get into your brain and to not fuck everything else up.

9027
07:48:56,580 --> 07:48:57,860
We're like right there on the press.

9028
07:48:57,860 --> 07:48:59,220
We're right the fuck there.

9029
07:48:59,220 --> 07:49:00,660
It's not Cuba, OK?

9030
07:49:00,660 --> 07:49:03,620
It's not Cuba at all.

9031
07:49:03,620 --> 07:49:05,260
A amount of resources have been poured into this.

9032
07:49:05,260 --> 07:49:08,580
And in the past, we found out that it was all fake.

9033
07:49:08,580 --> 07:49:09,820
But yeah, it's--

9034
07:49:09,820 --> 07:49:12,140
He's got to correct that, right?

9035
07:49:12,140 --> 07:49:13,060
He's got to correct that.

9036
07:49:13,060 --> 07:49:15,300
Even doctors have nearly cured or very effectively

9037
07:49:15,300 --> 07:49:16,140
treated Alzheimer's.

9038
07:49:16,140 --> 07:49:19,140
But the drug trials are now in the clinical trial phase in--

9039
07:49:19,140 --> 07:49:23,220
Little known, Cuban Alzheimer's drug, Canada as well.

9040
07:49:23,220 --> 07:49:24,340
So they're being tested currently.

9041
07:49:24,340 --> 07:49:27,420
I think it's in the third phase of the clinical trials?

9042
07:49:27,420 --> 07:49:29,540
Or no, medical professor Ron Geier and Dr. Andrew Kirk

9043
07:49:29,540 --> 07:49:30,900
at the University of Saskatchewan in Canada

9044
07:49:30,900 --> 07:49:33,720
are running a phase two trial to confirm these findings currently.

9045
07:49:33,720 --> 07:49:35,340
But if you are not very familiar with this stuff,

9046
07:49:35,340 --> 07:49:36,340
it doesn't really matter.

9047
07:49:36,340 --> 07:49:38,780
I wanted to ask you if you have any--

9048
07:49:38,780 --> 07:49:40,020
I know for a fact you've heard of this.

9049
07:49:40,020 --> 07:49:42,540
Because this is a pseudo-medicine, a pseudoscience medicine

9050
07:49:42,540 --> 07:49:44,740
for former citizens who have been given for a long time.

9051
07:49:44,740 --> 07:49:46,660
The cube has always been on the verge of Alzheimer's disease

9052
07:49:46,660 --> 07:49:47,980
here in his absolute fucking bullshit.

9053
07:49:47,980 --> 07:49:50,020
I mean, he must have heard of this before.

9054
07:49:50,020 --> 07:49:51,220
Knowledge on the--

9055
07:49:51,220 --> 07:49:53,180
No, yeah, I'd want to know the mechanism of action.

9056
07:49:53,180 --> 07:49:56,420
What is it interacting with and how does it produce efficacy?

9057
07:49:56,420 --> 07:49:57,460
Yeah.

9058
07:49:57,460 --> 07:49:57,960
OK.

9059
07:49:57,960 --> 07:49:59,660
All right, well, we'll move on from then.

9060
07:50:00,000 --> 07:50:04,280
Um, what was I going to say?

9061
07:50:04,360 --> 07:50:05,600
Uh, okay.

9062
07:50:05,600 --> 07:50:10,280
So you've, uh, you've encountered some, uh, anti critical thinkers.

9063
07:50:10,920 --> 07:50:16,000
No, he's going to, it's so much more hilarious that he's going to bring me up

9064
07:50:16,000 --> 07:50:20,280
now after unknowingly peddling, like pseudo scientific bullshit,

9065
07:50:20,280 --> 07:50:23,960
after soon scientific bullshit idea to Dave and he's going to break up out.

9066
07:50:23,960 --> 07:50:25,040
I'm anti critical thinking.

9067
07:50:25,480 --> 07:50:27,080
Oh my God.

9068
07:50:27,280 --> 07:50:30,560
This is, this is ideological cuckoldry.

9069
07:50:30,680 --> 07:50:32,320
This is why the lives are losing, bro.

9070
07:50:32,680 --> 07:50:35,040
How could you sit through all of this?

9071
07:50:35,720 --> 07:50:39,760
How could you sit through all of this and then now to shit on me after?

9072
07:50:39,880 --> 07:50:41,120
Oh my God, bro.

9073
07:50:44,200 --> 07:50:46,120
In another field as well.

9074
07:50:46,120 --> 07:50:46,840
His name is Destiny.

9075
07:50:46,840 --> 07:50:47,160
Oh, yeah.

9076
07:50:48,080 --> 07:50:48,320
How was it?

9077
07:50:50,080 --> 07:50:51,440
How is it?

9078
07:50:52,000 --> 07:50:53,880
I just can't even bro.

9079
07:50:53,880 --> 07:50:59,000
I can't believe the unfathomable depths of cuckoldry.

9080
07:50:59,680 --> 07:51:00,840
He will go to for this.

9081
07:51:00,880 --> 07:51:01,880
It's just unreal.

9082
07:51:01,960 --> 07:51:02,920
That experience has been like for you.

9083
07:51:02,920 --> 07:51:05,200
We watched your video on the genocide denial or rather.

9084
07:51:05,200 --> 07:51:06,120
Yeah, I don't even know that by the way.

9085
07:51:06,120 --> 07:51:07,120
You reacted to three of my videos.

9086
07:51:07,120 --> 07:51:08,960
I was like, yeah, I can't even say it's genocide denial.

9087
07:51:08,960 --> 07:51:09,880
It's more so genocide support.

9088
07:51:09,960 --> 07:51:11,920
I feel like yeah, a little bit of a denial.

9089
07:51:11,920 --> 07:51:12,760
Sometimes the support.

9090
07:51:12,800 --> 07:51:12,840
Yeah.

9091
07:51:12,840 --> 07:51:13,560
Very interesting.

9092
07:51:14,320 --> 07:51:18,200
What do you think compels someone to just, uh, otherwise be like seemingly

9093
07:51:18,200 --> 07:51:20,240
a sane person, but then, uh, go down these rabbit holes.

9094
07:51:20,320 --> 07:51:24,840
Have you found, uh, similarities between your work, uh, in, in, uh, Destiny's

9095
07:51:24,840 --> 07:51:27,880
commentary and anti-vaxxers that you deal with that might be otherwise like.

9096
07:51:28,600 --> 07:51:30,320
Oh, and now his comments here.

9097
07:51:30,320 --> 07:51:34,760
I understand them even more now because he's going to pray some of my science research.

9098
07:51:34,920 --> 07:51:36,880
You know, I do know a lot about the things that I talk about.

9099
07:51:37,480 --> 07:51:39,040
And it's got to be mind fucking him.

9100
07:51:39,040 --> 07:51:41,800
There has to be some schism in his head because he just listened to his song.

9101
07:51:41,800 --> 07:51:44,080
You have like four million retarded science tastes.

9102
07:51:44,720 --> 07:51:46,400
There must be some schism in his brain.

9103
07:51:46,400 --> 07:51:48,600
There's got to be some cognitive dissonance right now that he's fighting

9104
07:51:48,600 --> 07:51:51,240
through to get, to get through this conversation, seemingly normal people.

9105
07:51:51,240 --> 07:51:51,760
I think so.

9106
07:51:51,760 --> 07:51:54,840
I think that like in terms of identifying what has to be viewed as dishonesty, right?

9107
07:51:54,840 --> 07:51:58,160
It has to be like calculated activity and behavior, um, because it's true.

9108
07:51:58,160 --> 07:52:00,160
Like on other topics, like, uh, I did that.

9109
07:52:00,160 --> 07:52:04,800
I did a commentary on his, uh, debate, uh, on the debate that he did, uh, about

9110
07:52:04,800 --> 07:52:07,640
Israel and just like, lie, lie, lie, lie, just expose all the lies on that same day.

9111
07:52:07,640 --> 07:52:09,880
He had another debate with somebody else and he was upholding, you know, like

9112
07:52:09,880 --> 07:52:12,240
pro-vaxxing stuff and like, like he was like, uh, pushing back against like

9113
07:52:12,240 --> 07:52:13,440
lably propaganda stuff.

9114
07:52:13,440 --> 07:52:15,960
That's like more niche, like way, a huge proportion of public believes

9115
07:52:15,960 --> 07:52:18,800
lably propaganda and like fauci hate and stuff like that.

9116
07:52:18,800 --> 07:52:20,640
So for him to take the correct position on those is indicative of like an ability

9117
07:52:20,640 --> 07:52:23,000
to like look at, look at these issues and scrutinize them properly.

9118
07:52:23,240 --> 07:52:28,200
Um, so he's, um, uh, his real position is fucking baffling to me.

9119
07:52:28,560 --> 07:52:29,040
Mm.

9120
07:52:29,040 --> 07:52:31,440
Maybe that's worth, maybe it's worth investigating those feelings.

9121
07:52:31,440 --> 07:52:32,400
You have a little bit more.

9122
07:52:32,440 --> 07:52:38,560
Maybe, maybe, well, no, considering that you see that my positions on any science

9123
07:52:38,560 --> 07:52:41,080
related subject that I'm trying to speak with, I don't want to say authority on,

9124
07:52:41,080 --> 07:52:44,040
but then I'm presenting myself as I can debate on these topics and I can present

9125
07:52:44,040 --> 07:52:45,320
with the authority believes on any of them.

9126
07:52:45,400 --> 07:52:48,080
All of these are niche, true positions.

9127
07:52:48,080 --> 07:52:48,520
He said it.

9128
07:52:48,560 --> 07:52:51,400
These are not commonly not very many people would be willing to go out and debate

9129
07:52:51,480 --> 07:52:52,840
lab league, even on the liberal side.

9130
07:52:52,840 --> 07:52:53,840
I would say that's my minority position.

9131
07:52:53,840 --> 07:52:54,240
Nobody will.

9132
07:52:54,400 --> 07:52:55,680
I'll do it against anybody.

9133
07:52:55,680 --> 07:52:58,280
I'll lean a Chan one day.

9134
07:52:58,600 --> 07:53:02,680
Um, meanwhile, Hassan is wrong about every single take he's given so far.

9135
07:53:03,640 --> 07:53:07,120
That's got to give him pause where he's going to be like, well, what's going on here?

9136
07:53:08,320 --> 07:53:12,200
I have three hypotheses that have been proposed to me or that I've come across.

9137
07:53:12,240 --> 07:53:13,040
I've seen them.

9138
07:53:13,080 --> 07:53:13,280
Yeah.

9139
07:53:13,280 --> 07:53:16,120
Either getting money from Israel purely out of hatred for you or someone

9140
07:53:16,120 --> 07:53:18,120
email me and said it's because his ex wife left him for propels.

9141
07:53:18,120 --> 07:53:21,080
I got like all my notes are public.

9142
07:53:21,360 --> 07:53:22,480
All my arguments are public.

9143
07:53:22,800 --> 07:53:26,840
Every single thing about this public and your comments, your responses to me

9144
07:53:27,360 --> 07:53:31,000
are our TikTok videos with spooky music in the background, bra.

9145
07:53:31,840 --> 07:53:32,760
Three, those are three.

9146
07:53:32,760 --> 07:53:33,120
I don't know.

9147
07:53:33,120 --> 07:53:33,640
Why not?

9148
07:53:33,640 --> 07:53:35,400
All three could be all of it.

9149
07:53:35,440 --> 07:53:35,600
Yeah.

9150
07:53:35,600 --> 07:53:38,680
Um, you actually did bring up some of the interesting about the lab league theory.

9151
07:53:38,680 --> 07:53:39,720
I do want to talk to you about that.

9152
07:53:40,160 --> 07:53:40,800
People forget that.

9153
07:53:40,800 --> 07:53:42,440
Oh, what is it?

9154
07:53:42,440 --> 07:53:42,840
Hold on.

9155
07:53:42,840 --> 07:53:44,360
What's the commie take on lab league?

9156
07:53:47,480 --> 07:53:50,000
I feel like the commies might agree with.

9157
07:53:51,760 --> 07:53:55,560
If a son knows the, the commie position, I would actually be somewhat impressed.

9158
07:53:55,760 --> 07:54:02,440
If he knows this, then I will switch my position 100% that the emailer was correct

9159
07:54:02,440 --> 07:54:08,320
and that he is, he was given complete propaganda by when he went to China and

9160
07:54:08,320 --> 07:54:09,880
they fed him all the propaganda lines.

9161
07:54:10,080 --> 07:54:15,120
Now, he might try to slip it in here, um, in a subtle way and pretend he doesn't

9162
07:54:15,120 --> 07:54:15,640
know much about it.

9163
07:54:16,480 --> 07:54:21,800
If the United States, we believe broadly that it looks for a lab trying to, and

9164
07:54:21,800 --> 07:54:24,440
now they try to cover up and say that it came from nasty animals in the fucking

9165
07:54:24,440 --> 07:54:24,960
wet market.

9166
07:54:25,800 --> 07:54:26,400
That's not true.

9167
07:54:26,600 --> 07:54:27,640
They tried to cover up the wet market.

9168
07:54:27,640 --> 07:54:29,760
They killed every, they killed like 80,000 animals in this country.

9169
07:54:29,760 --> 07:54:31,040
They sprayed the whole fucking thing with bleach.

9170
07:54:31,040 --> 07:54:32,120
All the corpses were removed.

9171
07:54:32,280 --> 07:54:35,400
The only testing that investigators were able to do at that wet market was in

9172
07:54:35,400 --> 07:54:36,040
the drains.

9173
07:54:36,160 --> 07:54:40,000
They even removed the fucking Chinese character for live animals from the wet

9174
07:54:40,000 --> 07:54:42,560
market before they went in to investigate the wet market drains.

9175
07:54:42,560 --> 07:54:42,880
Okay.

9176
07:54:43,080 --> 07:54:44,880
That's what they were trying to cover up 100% number one.

9177
07:54:45,040 --> 07:54:49,800
Number two, China does believe in a conspiracy, but it's not about a lab

9178
07:54:49,800 --> 07:54:51,000
leak and it's not about the wet market.

9179
07:54:51,200 --> 07:54:56,520
They think that it came from a, I think it was a frozen US grocery market or some

9180
07:54:56,520 --> 07:55:00,000
frozen US thing, um, that some frozen food was shipped into China.

9181
07:55:00,000 --> 07:55:06,940
And then from there the virus spread that's the Chinese propaganda point if Hassan even knows that that would blow my fucking mind

9182
07:55:06,940 --> 07:55:10,540
Because I've never heard anybody in the West bring this up. But this is the Chinese propaganda line. Oh

9183
07:55:11,040 --> 07:55:14,560
There's no shot. You'll say that that would be crazy under the Trump administration

9184
07:55:14,560 --> 07:55:19,240
It was actually I think it was the State Department that initiated the lab league theory and then everyone was like

9185
07:55:19,240 --> 07:55:21,240
This is most likely zoonotic disease spread

9186
07:55:22,080 --> 07:55:26,920
There was scientific consensus early on it's obviously it takes a very long time to you know figure out exactly what happened

9187
07:55:26,920 --> 07:55:28,080
It takes decades at times

9188
07:55:28,080 --> 07:55:30,080
And then also there is this

9189
07:55:31,000 --> 07:55:35,600
Black box in China as well. It makes it a little bit more difficult to truly identify what happened

9190
07:55:36,480 --> 07:55:39,080
Like none of this is true, but that's okay. That's all right, dude

9191
07:55:39,240 --> 07:55:43,740
But I'm certain that the Chinese government also wants to you know figure out exactly what to place

9192
07:55:43,740 --> 07:55:46,440
They had their own propaganda. They said it was a lab league out of America. Well, there was that yes

9193
07:55:46,800 --> 07:55:51,800
Well, I think that I've heard lab league before but I've heard I thought that the main one was he's he's closer than

9194
07:55:51,960 --> 07:55:55,880
The idea that it was from a wet market. That's what China wants people to believe

9195
07:55:55,880 --> 07:56:00,120
But that it leaked from America somehow I thought the theory that China had was that it was a there was like frozen food

9196
07:56:00,120 --> 07:56:02,040
They came in that was infected with the COVID and that's how I started to spread

9197
07:56:02,040 --> 07:56:04,120
But yeah, I remember that as well

9198
07:56:04,120 --> 07:56:09,200
But but the scientific communities consensus was a zoonotic disease spread. Yeah, and under the Biden administration

9199
07:56:09,200 --> 07:56:11,760
They actually brought back the lab league propaganda again

9200
07:56:11,760 --> 07:56:18,080
And now I feel like the consensus from a lot of people in America broadly speaking is that it is yeah

9201
07:56:18,080 --> 07:56:22,600
It was a it was a lab league. That's just what most people think product of one of the most enormous propaganda campaigns of the past 10 years

9202
07:56:22,600 --> 07:56:28,000
What do you think is the purpose? I think it's just anti-China sentiment for sure, but it also serves a secondary purpose of like making people more

9203
07:56:28,760 --> 07:56:30,760
Anti-medicine in general like oh, we shouldn't be pesting

9204
07:56:31,080 --> 07:56:32,640
So it serves a lot of purposes. It's interesting

9205
07:56:32,640 --> 07:56:36,080
I did an entire video about it and it was very multifaceted and I broke down on each base of it

9206
07:56:36,080 --> 07:56:41,320
So initially it was just to deflect from Trump's shitty handling of the of the early pandemic because the election was coming

9207
07:56:41,320 --> 07:56:44,360
And he just wanted to deflect from that that was it was initially orchestrated by Steve Bannon

9208
07:56:44,360 --> 07:56:47,640
So Steve Bannon found this woman from Wuhan took around Fox News and all you did the whole circuit

9209
07:56:47,640 --> 07:56:51,440
So that's how it started and then it kind of morphed Brett Weinstein got in there and there's all these other facets to it

9210
07:56:51,440 --> 07:56:54,680
But now with the Fauci thing, it's very clearly just part political part

9211
07:56:54,680 --> 07:56:58,560
It's part of the greater movement to foster distrust in public health public health officials the scientific community

9212
07:56:58,560 --> 07:57:02,440
Well, it's more so is to undermine the Biden administration and everything associated with the Biden administration

9213
07:57:02,440 --> 07:57:05,160
Once again, justify going into these departments and cutting them and anti-regulating

9214
07:57:05,160 --> 07:57:07,880
I don't know sure that I just don't understand what's like the the

9215
07:57:08,760 --> 07:57:15,480
The purpose of it is maybe I have this assessment that might be faulty that ultimately there is a reasoning behind a lot of this stuff

9216
07:57:15,480 --> 07:57:17,480
There's the short-term goals and there's oh

9217
07:57:17,480 --> 07:57:21,120
He can't fathom any of it because he's because he can only think about things to class or whatever

9218
07:57:21,120 --> 07:57:27,200
People like Trump only succeed people who are liars can't succeed when people

9219
07:57:27,480 --> 07:57:33,440
Understand what's going on you can't there's no way that a person like RK junior a cash battalion pambondia Donald Trump

9220
07:57:34,000 --> 07:57:37,160
And he these people can make it anywhere if people are aware of what's going on

9221
07:57:37,160 --> 07:57:39,320
So what do you do you have to destroy the institutions?

9222
07:57:39,320 --> 07:57:42,920
You have to destroy people's ability to discern fact from fiction so that you can lie to them

9223
07:57:42,920 --> 07:57:44,560
You can't lie to a bunch of people that know what's going on

9224
07:57:44,560 --> 07:57:46,880
So of course you have to undermine the institutions that would tell you that these people are liars

9225
07:57:46,880 --> 07:57:52,720
That's it's a pretty simple thing the only way look again because it's not can only do this cringy class analysis

9226
07:57:52,720 --> 07:57:56,160
Bolshini is nothing else in his in his fucking toolbox to draw from

9227
07:57:56,600 --> 07:58:01,960
This is the big the big defining difference between the first Trump admin and the second Trump admin was Trump didn't realize in the first one

9228
07:58:01,960 --> 07:58:05,240
He needed people that didn't believe in government. He thought you just need to conservative

9229
07:58:05,240 --> 07:58:09,800
That's not how it works the second time around he got people that don't believe in government and now it's working a lot better for Trump

9230
07:58:10,520 --> 07:58:12,520
the reason why

9231
07:58:12,760 --> 07:58:18,000
He like Trump wanted to do more stuff in the first administration and the reason why he couldn't do it was because there were people that

9232
07:58:18,000 --> 07:58:20,920
Even though they were conservative they believed in government and they believed in institutions

9233
07:58:20,920 --> 07:58:22,920
They were trying to do what they thought was right by

9234
07:58:23,440 --> 07:58:28,400
US constitutional and governmental rules or whatever the second admin they were fucking they don't give a fuck about any of that

9235
07:58:28,800 --> 07:58:30,800
It's a long-term goals. It makes sense that like

9236
07:58:31,400 --> 07:58:37,440
Initially he's gonna say initially you're trying to deregulate for a big farmer and for your capitalist friends to make

9237
07:58:38,440 --> 07:58:40,840
The capital owning class wanted everyone to get the fuck back to work

9238
07:58:40,840 --> 07:58:45,180
Maybe some of them didn't even truly understand bullshit this this novel virus and how deadly it would be, right?

9239
07:58:45,180 --> 07:58:48,040
So they were like, oh, yeah, it's bullshit. Just get back to work. It's just a flu. Yeah, it's fine

9240
07:58:49,240 --> 07:58:52,800
but but I never fully understood like what the end goal of

9241
07:58:53,440 --> 07:58:55,440
This whole vaccine hesitancy

9242
07:58:55,720 --> 07:59:01,040
Movement is if it is directed by those in positions of power who we know don't believe in it like they are they're getting vaccinated

9243
07:59:01,040 --> 07:59:03,880
They're going to the doctor all the time. They're not praying in a way. So I

9244
07:59:05,160 --> 07:59:10,640
Yeah, it's like you're you're the oligarchy you're an oligarch and you want the government to work in your favor

9245
07:59:10,640 --> 07:59:11,800
Not the favor of the general public, right?

9246
07:59:11,800 --> 07:59:13,880
So you're very interested in consolidating authoritarian power

9247
07:59:13,880 --> 07:59:18,640
Right because if you can if you can buy off a president or if you can get a president into power that will work for you

9248
07:59:18,640 --> 07:59:20,240
Then that's gonna work out well for you

9249
07:59:20,240 --> 07:59:23,120
But the problem is that the government is very multifaceted and you have a distribution of power you have three branches

9250
07:59:23,120 --> 07:59:24,320
You have all these federal agencies

9251
07:59:24,320 --> 07:59:28,240
So what you want to do is you want to foster distrust in those agencies so that you can fill them with people who are

9252
07:59:28,240 --> 07:59:31,600
Gonna got them and deregulate everything but you want the public to cheer for you while you're doing that right?

9253
07:59:31,600 --> 07:59:36,640
So that's why you know, we're going in Bobby Kennedy's going in and he's getting rid of all the corruption at CDC and FDA and NIH

9254
07:59:36,640 --> 07:59:39,640
No, he's just firing everyone who won't bow down to the state-sanctioned pseudoscience narrative

9255
07:59:39,720 --> 07:59:43,200
He's just clean in house of all the legitimate scientists and then bringing all the anti-vaxxials and all the positions

9256
07:59:43,200 --> 07:59:46,920
But they need that narrative of like like the capitalists don't want this environment

9257
07:59:46,920 --> 07:59:52,120
I don't think capitalists want our our population to be sick and dying and anti-vax and fucking retarded

9258
07:59:52,120 --> 07:59:54,600
I don't think this is a capitalist idea. This is a

9259
07:59:55,920 --> 07:59:59,960
It's not even a plutocracy or plutocratic like a rich or an oligarch. I don't mean it's a

9260
08:00:00,000 --> 08:00:04,820
Uh, it's like, it's a retarded, it's a retarded authoritarian.

9261
08:00:04,820 --> 08:00:06,060
It's just a retarded king.

9262
08:00:06,060 --> 08:00:07,180
It's a retarded king.

9263
08:00:07,180 --> 08:00:08,100
I don't know how else to explain it.

9264
08:00:08,100 --> 08:00:08,860
It's a retarded king.

9265
08:00:08,860 --> 08:00:10,020
That's all it is.

9266
08:00:10,020 --> 08:00:11,780
It's a retarded fascist.

9267
08:00:11,780 --> 08:00:13,980
I don't, I don't know, I don't know what else.

9268
08:00:13,980 --> 08:00:14,900
I don't know how else to explain it.

9269
08:00:14,900 --> 08:00:17,660
We're combating this and we're, you know, these are the corrupt blah, blah, blah.

9270
08:00:17,660 --> 08:00:20,020
It's the precise opposite of the truth, but you need the public to be on board with what

9271
08:00:20,020 --> 08:00:22,460
you're doing, or at least as large of a percentage as you can get.

9272
08:00:22,460 --> 08:00:24,980
Otherwise you're gonna get pushback, political pushback, and then you'll be out of office.

9273
08:00:24,980 --> 08:00:25,980
The whole thing's over.

9274
08:00:25,980 --> 08:00:26,980
All right.

9275
08:00:26,980 --> 08:00:32,500
Uh, R of K junior, Elon Musk, Andrew Wakefield, like people killed or how good their bodies

9276
08:00:32,500 --> 08:00:33,500
are.

9277
08:00:33,500 --> 08:00:34,500
What?

9278
08:00:34,500 --> 08:00:35,500
No.

9279
08:00:35,500 --> 08:00:38,220
No, my body's their responsible.

9280
08:00:38,220 --> 08:00:40,220
There was a lot.

9281
08:00:40,220 --> 08:00:41,220
What did he say?

9282
08:00:41,220 --> 08:00:42,220
He said Wakefield.

9283
08:00:42,220 --> 08:00:43,220
He doesn't even know what that is.

9284
08:00:43,220 --> 08:00:45,460
Somebody gave somebody gave him these questions or AI given these questions.

9285
08:00:45,460 --> 08:00:48,580
It's very obvious because when he's trying to ad-lib anything, he can't, he has no idea

9286
08:00:48,580 --> 08:00:49,580
what he's talking about.

9287
08:00:49,580 --> 08:00:53,460
Um, and he can't vibe, he can't, um, he can't riff off of anything because he doesn't know

9288
08:00:53,460 --> 08:00:55,820
any of the subject matter, but it's funny because some of the questions he's asking,

9289
08:00:55,820 --> 08:00:57,460
somebody obviously gave him things.

9290
08:00:57,460 --> 08:01:02,700
Um, Wakefield was the guy, the con artist, dude who did the initial vaccines, maybe cause

9291
08:01:02,700 --> 08:01:04,340
autism study of this bullshit.

9292
08:01:04,340 --> 08:01:06,700
Um, he said Wakefield, Bobby Kennedy, who else?

9293
08:01:06,700 --> 08:01:08,100
Or how good their bodies are.

9294
08:01:08,100 --> 08:01:09,100
What?

9295
08:01:09,100 --> 08:01:10,100
Elon Musk.

9296
08:01:10,100 --> 08:01:11,100
Oh, and Elon.

9297
08:01:11,100 --> 08:01:12,100
Andrew Wakefield.

9298
08:01:12,100 --> 08:01:13,100
Like people killed or how good their bodies are.

9299
08:01:13,100 --> 08:01:14,100
What?

9300
08:01:14,100 --> 08:01:15,100
No.

9301
08:01:15,100 --> 08:01:16,100
No.

9302
08:01:16,100 --> 08:01:17,100
My body's their responsible.

9303
08:01:17,100 --> 08:01:18,100
There was a lot.

9304
08:01:18,100 --> 08:01:19,100
So, no, I don't care.

9305
08:01:19,100 --> 08:01:20,100
It was sexier.

9306
08:01:20,100 --> 08:01:21,100
It's, it's obviously Elon Musk.

9307
08:01:21,100 --> 08:01:22,580
He, I think he's at least, at least, um, barrel chest.

9308
08:01:22,580 --> 08:01:23,580
He does it.

9309
08:01:23,580 --> 08:01:24,580
That does it for me.

9310
08:01:24,580 --> 08:01:25,580
Yeah.

9311
08:01:25,580 --> 08:01:30,380
And the, if you go for just absolutely, like direct, like very clear line, it's going to

9312
08:01:30,380 --> 08:01:31,380
be Bobby for sure.

9313
08:01:31,380 --> 08:01:32,380
For sure.

9314
08:01:32,380 --> 08:01:38,060
As much as I hate Elon, I don't know, Elon would be so indirect, like supporting fucking

9315
08:01:38,060 --> 08:01:41,700
Trump, I guess, but it's, it would definitely be, it's got to be Bobby.

9316
08:01:41,700 --> 08:01:42,700
It's got to be Wakefield.

9317
08:01:42,700 --> 08:01:48,980
And then Elon after, I guess, even more than Wakefield, because Wakefield, it's like,

9318
08:01:48,980 --> 08:01:53,380
it's just, well, but Wakefield was like, would there be a Bobby Kennedy without a Wakefield?

9319
08:01:53,380 --> 08:01:56,980
That's a generalized rhetoric versus very directed rhetoric with policy behind it.

9320
08:01:56,980 --> 08:01:57,980
You know what I mean?

9321
08:01:57,980 --> 08:02:02,780
Like, when you, like RFK is not only just so true, emanating the rhetoric.

9322
08:02:02,780 --> 08:02:05,780
Even small alone, he's like, has direct body 83, direct body.

9323
08:02:05,780 --> 08:02:07,180
He's like confirmed kills.

9324
08:02:07,180 --> 08:02:08,180
Totally him.

9325
08:02:08,180 --> 08:02:09,180
Yeah.

9326
08:02:09,180 --> 08:02:10,180
But you can make the argument that that is, that, that remains rhetoric, even though it's

9327
08:02:10,180 --> 08:02:11,180
like laser focused.

9328
08:02:11,180 --> 08:02:13,580
But the problem is that with him, like gutting the entire ASIP panel and then stacking it

9329
08:02:13,580 --> 08:02:16,820
with, with anti-vaxxers and then removing vaccines from the, from the, from the childhood

9330
08:02:16,820 --> 08:02:19,940
vaccine list, uh, that, which makes low income families not able to get them for free any

9331
08:02:19,940 --> 08:02:20,940
longer because they're not recommended by CDC.

9332
08:02:20,940 --> 08:02:23,860
Uh, and then with like, what they're trying to do in Florida and make, uh, vaccines no

9333
08:02:23,860 --> 08:02:25,180
longer compulsory for schools at all.

9334
08:02:25,180 --> 08:02:27,260
So like children could go to school without having any vaccines.

9335
08:02:27,260 --> 08:02:29,100
Like that's, you don't get a straight align than that.

9336
08:02:29,100 --> 08:02:31,300
You just want to, I mean, when I say like, that doesn't make sense from the perspective

9337
08:02:31,300 --> 08:02:32,300
of the ruling class.

9338
08:02:32,300 --> 08:02:34,540
Like that, that is, it is a little weird, like, why are they still obsessed with killing

9339
08:02:34,540 --> 08:02:35,540
people?

9340
08:02:35,540 --> 08:02:39,420
You, that should cause you to think this, this is cognitive dissonance, but they're not

9341
08:02:39,420 --> 08:02:40,420
trying to resolve it.

9342
08:02:40,420 --> 08:02:41,420
Right?

9343
08:02:41,420 --> 08:02:45,260
This is, if you have a thing and you don't understand it, then it should drive you to

9344
08:02:45,260 --> 08:02:48,540
create a different way to model reality because something's not working, right?

9345
08:02:48,540 --> 08:02:50,900
If you do an experiment with something and the results are not what you expect them

9346
08:02:50,900 --> 08:02:53,460
or predict them to be, then there's something with your model that's incorrect.

9347
08:02:53,460 --> 08:02:54,660
You're not modeling reality correctly.

9348
08:02:54,660 --> 08:02:57,880
I don't understand who you can spend so much of this conversation being like, yeah, I just

9349
08:02:57,880 --> 08:02:58,880
don't get why these people do this.

9350
08:02:58,880 --> 08:03:00,080
I don't understand why these people do that.

9351
08:03:00,080 --> 08:03:01,080
I don't know.

9352
08:03:01,080 --> 08:03:02,740
Like I understand to somebody, so like rhetorically, right?

9353
08:03:02,740 --> 08:03:04,340
Like I'll say, like, wow, fuck what Trump even do this.

9354
08:03:04,340 --> 08:03:05,340
So stupid.

9355
08:03:05,340 --> 08:03:07,900
But the, the answer is, is because he's a psychologically driven narcissist who doesn't

9356
08:03:07,900 --> 08:03:11,020
understand or care fundamentally about the United States project or about our constitution.

9357
08:03:11,020 --> 08:03:13,860
He just wants to do things that make him happy and make him feel based.

9358
08:03:13,860 --> 08:03:16,500
That's, that's the level of analysis that you need to be on for Donald Trump.

9359
08:03:16,500 --> 08:03:18,020
It's purely psychological.

9360
08:03:18,020 --> 08:03:22,500
Additionally, maybe a little bit business minded money on the back end of that, but

9361
08:03:22,500 --> 08:03:27,540
mainly, I think mainly the psychology and the narcissism drive him more than the business

9362
08:03:27,540 --> 08:03:28,540
aspect of things.

9363
08:03:28,540 --> 08:03:31,380
That's a fucking narcissistic, this fucking loser is and he's rich already.

9364
08:03:31,380 --> 08:03:35,220
So, but like, yeah, when you can't, when you're not understanding anything that's happening,

9365
08:03:35,220 --> 08:03:36,220
I don't get it.

9366
08:03:36,220 --> 08:03:38,220
Why are these people doing things that try to kill all their fucking citizens or whatever?

9367
08:03:38,220 --> 08:03:41,540
It's because that's not, it's not the economy or it's not just the military industrial complex.

9368
08:03:41,540 --> 08:03:43,220
It's not just these things that are driving them, right?

9369
08:03:43,220 --> 08:03:45,900
If it was just the military industrial complex in the economy, well, the fuck are we back

9370
08:03:45,900 --> 08:03:46,900
in Ukraine?

9371
08:03:46,900 --> 08:03:51,100
Because it's like, like a little bit of instability, a little bit of confusion that justifies

9372
08:03:51,100 --> 08:03:52,100
deregulation.

9373
08:03:52,100 --> 08:03:53,100
That's good.

9374
08:03:53,100 --> 08:03:54,100
Yeah.

9375
08:03:54,100 --> 08:03:56,380
But like if you're bringing back Legionnaires disease to the fucking Florida school system,

9376
08:03:56,380 --> 08:03:57,580
I don't think that's going to be beneficial.

9377
08:03:57,580 --> 08:03:58,580
Yeah.

9378
08:03:58,580 --> 08:03:59,580
Because the ruling class need cattle.

9379
08:03:59,580 --> 08:04:00,580
Yeah.

9380
08:04:00,580 --> 08:04:01,580
A thousand kids dying amongst themselves and you know what I mean?

9381
08:04:01,580 --> 08:04:02,580
Yeah.

9382
08:04:02,580 --> 08:04:03,580
Bringing back 19th century diseases.

9383
08:04:03,580 --> 08:04:04,580
It is really bizarre.

9384
08:04:04,580 --> 08:04:06,580
I mean, I think when you get to the numbers of it, I mean, it will, you know, it's going

9385
08:04:06,580 --> 08:04:07,580
to be millions of kids.

9386
08:04:07,580 --> 08:04:09,340
It'll be, you know, hundreds or a thousand or a couple thousand, you know, if it gets

9387
08:04:09,340 --> 08:04:10,340
really, really bad.

9388
08:04:10,340 --> 08:04:13,180
I mean, even with measles, like, I think there've been five deaths this year or so far.

9389
08:04:13,180 --> 08:04:14,180
It might be more than that.

9390
08:04:14,180 --> 08:04:16,620
I don't know, five to 10, somewhere in that ballpark, which is like, it's true.

9391
08:04:16,620 --> 08:04:18,860
It's not like this gigantic number, but it is like none of those kids have died.

9392
08:04:18,860 --> 08:04:22,100
Like imagine that's your kid, you know, of course the parents, the anti-vaxxer parents.

9393
08:04:22,100 --> 08:04:23,100
It's crazy.

9394
08:04:23,100 --> 08:04:24,100
Like when their children die, they still go, you know what?

9395
08:04:24,100 --> 08:04:25,100
I wouldn't have done anything differently.

9396
08:04:25,100 --> 08:04:28,340
I remember in Texas, there was the, were they Amish or something?

9397
08:04:28,340 --> 08:04:29,340
No.

9398
08:04:29,340 --> 08:04:30,340
Well, they looked Amish.

9399
08:04:30,340 --> 08:04:31,340
Oh, they did.

9400
08:04:31,340 --> 08:04:32,340
Maybe I'm just thinking about it.

9401
08:04:32,340 --> 08:04:33,340
I don't think that they.

9402
08:04:33,340 --> 08:04:35,300
There's a mom and dad who literally said that on TV after their child died.

9403
08:04:35,300 --> 08:04:38,720
And it's just like, you'd think that what event could more strongly shake you out of this,

9404
08:04:38,720 --> 08:04:39,720
you know, out of this.

9405
08:04:39,720 --> 08:04:43,780
It also reminds me of like during COVID, these people would be in the hospital and like the

9406
08:04:43,780 --> 08:04:46,660
last words before they put the ventilator down their throat was literally like, I wish

9407
08:04:46,660 --> 08:04:47,660
I got it.

9408
08:04:47,660 --> 08:04:52,140
Well, some of them said that, but then they were, no, Dave knows that a saw doesn't he's

9409
08:04:52,140 --> 08:04:53,580
gonna be able to say some retarded shit.

9410
08:04:53,580 --> 08:05:23,580
I had so many healthcare professionals, RNs and Dr.

9411
08:05:00,000 --> 08:05:01,740
and shit that would email me saying that.

9412
08:05:01,740 --> 08:05:03,200
I heard this so much, it's ubiquitous.

9413
08:05:03,200 --> 08:05:04,200
And I've heard it on a ton of YouTube

9414
08:05:04,200 --> 08:05:05,040
and everything as well.

9415
08:05:05,040 --> 08:05:07,120
The last thing before that ventilator goes on

9416
08:05:07,120 --> 08:05:10,400
for so many people was, can I still get the vaccine?

9417
08:05:10,400 --> 08:05:11,320
Can I please get the vaccine?

9418
08:05:11,320 --> 08:05:12,160
It was too late at that point.

9419
08:05:12,160 --> 08:05:13,000
You're dead.

9420
08:05:13,000 --> 08:05:13,840
If you're going on a ventilator,

9421
08:05:13,840 --> 08:05:15,480
you got like a fucking one in five chance maybe

9422
08:05:15,480 --> 08:05:16,320
of making it.

9423
08:05:17,960 --> 08:05:19,400
- What is the sign about to say?

9424
08:05:19,400 --> 08:05:20,920
- The last words before they put the ventilator

9425
08:05:20,920 --> 08:05:22,320
down their throat was literally like.

9426
08:05:22,320 --> 08:05:23,160
- I wish I got.

9427
08:05:23,160 --> 08:05:24,000
- Actually.

9428
08:05:24,000 --> 08:05:24,840
- Well, some of them said that,

9429
08:05:24,840 --> 08:05:25,680
but then there were others who saw their parents die

9430
08:05:25,680 --> 08:05:27,400
and they were like, no, it's the ventilators

9431
08:05:27,400 --> 08:05:28,240
that killed them.

9432
08:05:28,240 --> 08:05:33,040
- Is he talking about the people dying

9433
08:05:33,040 --> 08:05:35,200
or are there people that saw their parents die?

9434
08:05:35,200 --> 08:05:36,880
He's repeating, this was an Elon Musk talking point

9435
08:05:36,880 --> 08:05:38,040
that was fucking retarded.

9436
08:05:38,040 --> 08:05:39,040
I don't even know.

9437
08:05:39,040 --> 08:05:40,360
I don't know what a sign was on that.

9438
08:05:40,360 --> 08:05:41,280
- And I just, I don't know.

9439
08:05:41,280 --> 08:05:43,280
I feel like animals have better self-preservation skills

9440
08:05:43,280 --> 08:05:44,120
than some Americans do.

9441
08:05:44,120 --> 08:05:45,000
It blows my fucking mind.

9442
08:05:45,000 --> 08:05:45,840
- Yeah, it's true.

9443
08:05:45,840 --> 08:05:46,760
- You know?

9444
08:05:46,760 --> 08:05:49,240
Okay, let's ask you about Chinese bone glue.

9445
08:05:49,240 --> 08:05:50,080
Are you familiar?

9446
08:05:50,080 --> 08:05:51,720
Are you tapped into like the field

9447
08:05:51,720 --> 08:05:53,720
of scientific discovery in China at all?

9448
08:05:53,720 --> 08:05:54,560
- No.

9449
08:05:54,560 --> 08:05:58,200
- Why is he doing Chinese propaganda?

9450
08:05:58,200 --> 08:06:00,480
For fucking medicine, I have to do a Cuban propaganda

9451
08:06:00,480 --> 08:06:01,400
for medicine.

9452
08:06:01,400 --> 08:06:04,160
Dave, wake up, Dave.

9453
08:06:04,160 --> 08:06:05,240
Breaking news?

9454
08:06:05,240 --> 08:06:06,160
- Breaking news.

9455
08:06:06,160 --> 08:06:07,160
- Breaking news.

9456
08:06:07,160 --> 08:06:08,160
- Breaking news.

9457
08:06:08,160 --> 08:06:09,320
- Breaking news.

9458
08:06:09,320 --> 08:06:10,160
- Dave.

9459
08:06:12,960 --> 08:06:14,560
Dave, wake the fuck up.

9460
08:06:14,560 --> 08:06:15,400
Wake the fuck up.

9461
08:06:15,400 --> 08:06:16,720
Wake up, Dave, wake up.

9462
08:06:16,720 --> 08:06:17,560
Wake up.

9463
08:06:18,920 --> 08:06:20,040
Hello?

9464
08:06:20,040 --> 08:06:21,640
What are we doing here?

9465
08:06:21,640 --> 08:06:22,840
- Not in China specifically, no.

9466
08:06:22,840 --> 08:06:24,080
He's like, they're,

9467
08:06:24,080 --> 08:06:26,680
they're doing the exact opposite of what we've been doing.

9468
08:06:26,680 --> 08:06:27,520
- It's true, yeah.

9469
08:06:27,520 --> 08:06:29,680
- He's about to do the thing that Eric does,

9470
08:06:29,680 --> 08:06:31,160
where her son's about to be excited

9471
08:06:31,160 --> 08:06:32,640
for all of their medical advancements.

9472
08:06:32,640 --> 08:06:34,440
He's about to be excited for anything they do in medicine.

9473
08:06:34,440 --> 08:06:36,600
And he's gonna, after shitting on all the US advancements

9474
08:06:36,600 --> 08:06:38,320
in medicine, our vaccine, by the way,

9475
08:06:38,320 --> 08:06:39,440
way better than China's vaccine.

9476
08:06:39,440 --> 08:06:41,160
The whole world wanted our vaccine.

9477
08:06:41,160 --> 08:06:43,720
Our vaccines were the king, our mRNA vaccines

9478
08:06:43,720 --> 08:06:46,200
were better than every other motherfuckers on the planet.

9479
08:06:46,200 --> 08:06:47,640
He's about to do Chinese propaganda for medicine.

9480
08:06:47,640 --> 08:06:50,560
I do do a cute, I hate this motherfucker.

9481
08:06:50,560 --> 08:06:51,400
- Really fun.

9482
08:06:51,400 --> 08:06:52,240
And they're making a big push.

9483
08:06:52,240 --> 08:06:53,280
They do five year plans, right?

9484
08:06:53,280 --> 08:06:55,720
And when Hassan was in China,

9485
08:06:55,720 --> 08:06:58,560
this fuckin' loser, this guy,

9486
08:07:01,320 --> 08:07:05,560
the medical establishment that he went to,

9487
08:07:05,560 --> 08:07:07,200
he didn't even let them touch him

9488
08:07:07,200 --> 08:07:11,800
because he was so scared about the fuckin' chiropractic.

9489
08:07:11,800 --> 08:07:14,120
Oh, fuck, what was it?

9490
08:07:14,120 --> 08:07:14,960
Was it not called?

9491
08:07:14,960 --> 08:07:16,680
Did he not label it chiropractor?

9492
08:07:20,960 --> 08:07:22,400
Oh my God, fuck.

9493
08:07:26,600 --> 08:07:30,600
With the state sponsor, this is what people think I did

9494
08:07:30,600 --> 08:07:33,880
with Alon, oh my God, what a fucking loser, dude.

9495
08:07:38,360 --> 08:07:41,200
(exhales deeply)

9496
08:07:44,640 --> 08:07:47,280
- I have the LSEF plug if you want it.

9497
08:07:47,280 --> 08:07:50,320
- Link me, you're still here, holy shit.

9498
08:07:50,320 --> 08:07:51,480
- Yeah, I'm still here.

9499
08:07:51,480 --> 08:07:52,320
- Link it.

9500
08:07:52,320 --> 08:07:53,160
- I'm here for the brides.

9501
08:07:53,160 --> 08:07:54,680
- It's not gonna be right the fuck now.

9502
08:07:54,680 --> 08:07:55,520
- It didn't.

9503
08:08:01,240 --> 08:08:02,080
- Bruh.

9504
08:08:07,120 --> 08:08:07,960
- Oh, hello.

9505
08:08:07,960 --> 08:08:08,800
- Hello.

9506
08:08:08,800 --> 08:08:09,640
- Hello.

9507
08:08:09,640 --> 08:08:10,480
- Hi.

9508
08:08:10,480 --> 08:08:11,320
- Hi.

9509
08:08:11,320 --> 08:08:12,160
- Hi.

9510
08:08:12,160 --> 08:08:13,000
- Hello, doctor.

9511
08:08:13,000 --> 08:08:13,840
- Thank you.

9512
08:08:13,840 --> 08:08:14,680
- Hi.

9513
08:08:14,680 --> 08:08:15,520
- Hi.

9514
08:08:15,520 --> 08:08:16,680
- Hey.

9515
08:08:16,680 --> 08:08:17,520
- Okay.

9516
08:08:17,520 --> 08:08:18,840
- Actually, I love this guy.

9517
08:08:22,320 --> 08:08:23,160
- She's there?

9518
08:08:23,160 --> 08:08:25,840
- Actually, they have the little--

9519
08:08:25,840 --> 08:08:27,680
- They have the little--

9520
08:08:27,680 --> 08:08:30,160
- He's spelled his name wrong.

9521
08:08:30,160 --> 08:08:33,120
- Oh, his first and last name.

9522
08:08:34,160 --> 08:08:39,200
- Welcome, Mr. Hassan Pike, Pike, Pike, Pike,

9523
08:08:39,200 --> 08:08:40,600
and his delegation.

9524
08:08:40,600 --> 08:08:42,800
Oh, oh my God.

9525
08:08:42,800 --> 08:08:45,040
(laughs)

9526
08:08:49,040 --> 08:08:51,040
- Hassan Pike and his delegation.

9527
08:08:51,040 --> 08:08:53,000
- Hassan Pike and his delegation.

9528
08:08:53,680 --> 08:08:55,760
(laughs)

9529
08:08:57,120 --> 08:09:02,120
- Un-ironic propaganda trip on Rio.

9530
08:09:09,160 --> 08:09:11,000
- And he won't let him touch him.

9531
08:09:11,000 --> 08:09:12,280
- Chinese medicine, by the way.

9532
08:09:12,280 --> 08:09:14,000
- The most precious--

9533
08:09:14,000 --> 08:09:16,000
(speaking in foreign language)

9534
08:09:16,000 --> 08:09:17,000
- Come on.

9535
08:09:17,000 --> 08:09:19,840
(speaking in foreign language)

9536
08:09:19,840 --> 08:09:20,840
- Okay, okay.

9537
08:09:20,840 --> 08:09:21,680
- Okay.

9538
08:09:21,680 --> 08:09:24,440
(speaking in foreign language)

9539
08:09:24,440 --> 08:09:27,280
(speaking in foreign language)

9540
08:09:27,280 --> 08:09:28,760
(speaking in foreign language)

9541
08:09:28,760 --> 08:09:30,040
- It's funny?

9542
08:09:30,040 --> 08:09:30,880
Oh my God.

9543
08:09:30,880 --> 08:09:33,520
It's funny because Hassan is doing the exact same thing

9544
08:09:33,520 --> 08:09:35,800
that they just accused the Trump admin of doing.

9545
08:09:35,800 --> 08:09:36,960
You understand he's doing the exact same thing, right?

9546
08:09:36,960 --> 08:09:38,000
Where he's like, yeah, it's crazy.

9547
08:09:38,000 --> 08:09:40,000
These Trump guys are all like anti-vaxxers and shit,

9548
08:09:40,000 --> 08:09:40,840
and then what do they do?

9549
08:09:40,840 --> 08:09:42,400
They run to the hospitals, they get the vaccine,

9550
08:09:42,400 --> 08:09:43,640
they get all the healthcare stuff.

9551
08:09:43,640 --> 08:09:44,480
Isn't it crazy?

9552
08:09:44,480 --> 08:09:45,680
Meanwhile, he goes to China.

9553
08:09:45,680 --> 08:09:47,400
He's trying to hype fucking Chinese medicine,

9554
08:09:47,400 --> 08:09:49,000
alternative medicine, bullshit, whatever the fuck.

9555
08:09:49,000 --> 08:09:50,880
Up to Professor Dave, he goes to China,

9556
08:09:50,880 --> 08:09:53,520
he goes to their little prepaid, pre-planned,

9557
08:09:53,520 --> 08:09:55,920
bullshit, government-sponsored tour,

9558
08:09:55,920 --> 08:09:57,600
doesn't accept the medicine here

9559
08:09:57,600 --> 08:09:59,680
'cause he knows it's fucking bullshit.

9560
08:10:00,000 --> 08:10:09,000
You don't need a bone fixing, right?

9561
08:10:09,000 --> 08:10:12,000
No, no, no.

9562
08:10:12,000 --> 08:10:18,000
You can see what's wrong with me, but no neck crack.

9563
08:10:18,000 --> 08:10:21,000
He can't relax, you are your boss.

9564
08:10:21,000 --> 08:10:23,000
Okay.

9565
08:10:23,000 --> 08:10:43,000
No, no, no, no, no.

9566
08:10:43,000 --> 08:10:53,000
I'm also too damned.

9567
08:10:53,000 --> 08:10:57,000
That was a really interesting experience.

9568
08:10:57,000 --> 08:10:58,000
Yeah.

9569
08:10:58,000 --> 08:11:03,000
I enjoyed it.

9570
08:11:03,000 --> 08:11:15,000
This last five year plan heavily focuses on the last five year plan.

9571
08:11:15,000 --> 08:11:17,000
Oh, my God, dude, I hate this motherfucker.

9572
08:11:17,000 --> 08:11:18,000
Dude, get him out of here, bro.

9573
08:11:18,000 --> 08:11:20,000
I hate this motherfucker.

9574
08:11:20,000 --> 08:11:23,000
No, because they're doing the exact opposite of what we've been doing.

9575
08:11:23,000 --> 08:11:24,000
It's true, which is really fun.

9576
08:11:24,000 --> 08:11:25,000
And they're making a big push.

9577
08:11:25,000 --> 08:11:26,000
They do five year plans, right?

9578
08:11:26,000 --> 08:11:31,000
And this last five year plan heavily focuses on the pharmaceutical industry.

9579
08:11:31,000 --> 08:11:34,000
I think they're going to start mass distributing.

9580
08:11:34,000 --> 08:11:39,000
Obviously, they don't care about patents in general, but mass distributing necessary medicine.

9581
08:11:39,000 --> 08:11:42,000
And on top of that, they're doing a lot of R&D in this field as well.

9582
08:11:42,000 --> 08:11:43,000
Yeah.

9583
08:11:43,000 --> 08:11:44,000
One of them is this.

9584
08:11:44,000 --> 08:11:45,000
I want to hear what you think about this.

9585
08:11:45,000 --> 08:11:46,000
Not the US, though.

9586
08:11:46,000 --> 08:11:48,000
We do know medical R&D, by the way.

9587
08:11:48,000 --> 08:11:49,000
Hey, or not.

9588
08:11:49,000 --> 08:11:51,000
September 9th, the world's first bone glue was.

9589
08:11:51,000 --> 08:11:55,000
What do you think about this TikTok video?

9590
08:11:55,000 --> 08:11:57,000
Wow.

9591
08:11:57,000 --> 08:12:02,000
Successfully developed in Zhejiang province being suitable for fracture patients.

9592
08:12:02,000 --> 08:12:06,000
What are we doing?

9593
08:12:06,000 --> 08:12:11,000
What do you think about this video?

9594
08:12:11,000 --> 08:12:13,000
He's, Dave's got to hate himself.

9595
08:12:13,000 --> 08:12:17,000
He's got to be questioning his life right now.

9596
08:12:17,000 --> 08:12:24,000
He's got to be wondering, what the fuck am I doing?

9597
08:12:24,000 --> 08:12:31,000
There's no shot, bro.

9598
08:12:31,000 --> 08:12:32,000
What does this guy say first?

9599
08:12:32,000 --> 08:12:33,000
Hold on.

9600
08:12:33,000 --> 08:12:39,000
World's first bone glue developed in China from China Daily official channel.

9601
08:12:39,000 --> 08:12:40,000
Read it to you.

9602
08:12:40,000 --> 08:12:46,000
The saying goes a fracture requires 100 days of interest.

9603
08:12:46,000 --> 08:12:48,000
All these raw materials are completely within our.

9604
08:12:48,000 --> 08:12:53,000
By the way, in the United States of America, you can literally get same day hip replacement

9605
08:12:53,000 --> 08:12:54,000
surgery.

9606
08:12:54,000 --> 08:12:56,000
That is an outpatient surgery in the United States of America.

9607
08:12:56,000 --> 08:12:59,000
Same day hip replacement surgery outpatient surgery in the United States of America.

9608
08:12:59,000 --> 08:13:03,000
Pretty sure you can walk in on the eye laser shit and walk out in like fucking 10 minutes

9609
08:13:03,000 --> 08:13:06,000
and they laser beam your fucking eyes up to fucking 2010 vision.

9610
08:13:06,000 --> 08:13:09,000
Like, but nothing here in the United States.

9611
08:13:09,000 --> 08:13:12,000
It's all bullshit in the United States, though, but look what they're doing in China.

9612
08:13:12,000 --> 08:13:32,000
Do the song think of these are two bones that were fractured and became one?

9613
08:13:32,000 --> 08:13:33,000
I don't even know, bro.

9614
08:13:33,000 --> 08:13:34,000
I don't know.

9615
08:13:34,000 --> 08:13:35,000
I don't even know.

9616
08:13:35,000 --> 08:13:45,000
I mean, I have no immediate reason to doubt that.

9617
08:13:45,000 --> 08:13:48,000
He's so uncomfortable.

9618
08:13:48,000 --> 08:13:50,000
Oh, my God.

9619
08:13:50,000 --> 08:13:53,000
He must have fucking there's got to be something.

9620
08:13:53,000 --> 08:13:54,000
He's got to, bro.

9621
08:13:54,000 --> 08:13:56,000
He's got to be feeling it.

9622
08:13:56,000 --> 08:13:59,000
He's got to be feeling the dissonance.

9623
08:13:59,000 --> 08:14:00,000
It's got it.

9624
08:14:00,000 --> 08:14:01,000
He's.

9625
08:14:01,000 --> 08:14:02,000
Oh, my God.

9626
08:14:02,000 --> 08:14:03,000
I can't imagine, bro.

9627
08:14:03,000 --> 08:14:05,000
I don't think this feels like a Joe Rogan interview.

9628
08:14:05,000 --> 08:14:07,000
I am very stupid, just so you understand, especially when it comes to science.

9629
08:14:07,000 --> 08:14:09,000
But you're like, hey, guest, is this real or not?

9630
08:14:09,000 --> 08:14:11,000
Not check out this thing that I've decided is really.

9631
08:14:11,000 --> 08:14:12,000
Oh, my God.

9632
08:14:12,000 --> 08:14:14,000
He's giving him cover every single thing.

9633
08:14:14,000 --> 08:14:18,000
Asana said in this interview, it's been total fucking more shit.

9634
08:14:18,000 --> 08:14:21,000
It's just the most retarded shit on the planet.

9635
08:14:21,000 --> 08:14:24,000
And if you, you say it's not, but what is the, I forget what it was.

9636
08:14:24,000 --> 08:14:25,000
I mean, I remember reading something about it.

9637
08:14:25,000 --> 08:14:26,000
Hold on.

9638
08:14:26,000 --> 08:14:27,000
Let's look it up.

9639
08:14:27,000 --> 08:14:28,000
Chinese bone glue.

9640
08:14:28,000 --> 08:14:29,000
Yeah, science alert.

9641
08:14:29,000 --> 08:14:31,000
Scientists develop a genius method actually regenerates tooth enamel.

9642
08:14:31,000 --> 08:14:32,000
That's another one.

9643
08:14:32,000 --> 08:14:33,000
This was Japanese.

9644
08:14:33,000 --> 08:14:34,000
This is seven years old.

9645
08:14:34,000 --> 08:14:41,000
Why is it?

9646
08:14:41,000 --> 08:14:47,000
Is that even also, I could be wrong here.

9647
08:14:47,000 --> 08:14:48,000
I thought the enamel part.

9648
08:14:48,000 --> 08:14:49,000
Am I mixing this up?

9649
08:14:49,000 --> 08:14:51,000
I thought the enamel part was the part that is fine.

9650
08:14:51,000 --> 08:14:55,000
That that's what, um, doesn't the fluoride help you grow more enamel?

9651
08:14:55,000 --> 08:14:56,000
Or am I mixing it up?

9652
08:14:56,000 --> 08:14:57,000
Is that a different part of the tooth?

9653
08:14:57,000 --> 08:14:59,000
I thought it was like the stuff inside the tooth or more.

9654
08:14:59,000 --> 08:15:00,000
I think the...

9655
08:15:00,000 --> 08:15:03,180
The pulp and the nerve shit, once that's gone, you're fucked.

9656
08:15:03,180 --> 08:15:04,020
We're not fucked.

9657
08:15:04,020 --> 08:15:06,300
I think the tooth will last like a decade or two more.

9658
08:15:09,400 --> 08:15:11,980
(bell dings)

9659
08:15:13,300 --> 08:15:14,280
- Hello.

9660
08:15:14,280 --> 08:15:15,120
- Who's joining?

9661
08:15:15,120 --> 08:15:16,000
- Jesus.

9662
08:15:16,000 --> 08:15:16,840
- Enamel is gone, gone?

9663
08:15:16,840 --> 08:15:18,140
Oh, that doesn't-- - Oh, I see.

9664
08:15:18,140 --> 08:15:20,240
- What's the part of the tooth that the fluoride

9665
08:15:20,240 --> 08:15:22,440
is supposed to help you, it like binds bonds

9666
08:15:22,440 --> 08:15:23,680
with whatever bullshit?

9667
08:15:23,680 --> 08:15:27,040
And then fluoride helps preserve enamel?

9668
08:15:27,040 --> 08:15:29,200
I thought that the fluoride...

9669
08:15:29,200 --> 08:15:30,040
Oh, hold on.

9670
08:15:31,800 --> 08:15:34,440
Stupid me, I almost Googled it.

9671
08:15:34,440 --> 08:15:39,440
How does fluoride in toothpaste interact with your tooth?

9672
08:15:40,560 --> 08:15:42,120
question mark, tell me.

9673
08:15:43,240 --> 08:15:44,300
Answer me, Claude.

9674
08:15:45,800 --> 08:15:47,880
I'm fluoride is protective of enamel,

9675
08:15:47,880 --> 08:15:49,880
but hydroxiap,

9676
08:15:52,840 --> 08:15:53,680
pitite.

9677
08:15:54,960 --> 08:15:56,520
Hydroxiap, pitite.

9678
08:15:57,680 --> 08:15:59,040
Hydroxiap, pititite.

9679
08:15:59,040 --> 08:16:00,800
I don't know if that's how it is, okay.

9680
08:16:00,800 --> 08:16:02,040
Fluoride protects teeth mainly through

9681
08:16:02,040 --> 08:16:03,200
chemistry at the tooth surface,

9682
08:16:03,200 --> 08:16:05,600
not by being absorbed into the tooth from the inside.

9683
08:16:06,600 --> 08:16:07,600
Well, I never said that.

9684
08:16:07,600 --> 08:16:08,560
Why is he chewing me like a retard?

9685
08:16:08,560 --> 08:16:09,920
Okay, the setup.

9686
08:16:09,920 --> 08:16:12,280
Enamel is constantly dissolving and rebuilding.

9687
08:16:12,280 --> 08:16:15,080
Tooth enamel is mostly made up of mineral called hydroxiap,

9688
08:16:15,080 --> 08:16:16,360
or whatever the fuck, okay.

9689
08:16:16,360 --> 08:16:17,400
When you eat your, oh, fuck you.

9690
08:16:17,400 --> 08:16:18,960
Everybody try to say this was not the case.

9691
08:16:18,960 --> 08:16:19,880
Fuck all of you.

9692
08:16:19,880 --> 08:16:21,240
That's why I only trust Claude now.

9693
08:16:21,240 --> 08:16:22,080
Don't, you know what?

9694
08:16:22,080 --> 08:16:24,840
From now on, when I ask a question,

9695
08:16:24,840 --> 08:16:26,320
just assume that I'm gonna ask Claude.

9696
08:16:26,320 --> 08:16:28,720
Don't type your answers anymore, okay?

9697
08:16:28,720 --> 08:16:30,640
I don't care what you guys have to say.

9698
08:16:35,800 --> 08:16:37,680
When you eat sugars or starches bacteria

9699
08:16:37,680 --> 08:16:40,640
in plaque ferment, them, and produce acids,

9700
08:16:40,640 --> 08:16:41,880
once the pH at the tooth surface drops

9701
08:16:41,880 --> 08:16:46,880
below roughly 5.5, hydroxiap, hydroxiap,

9702
08:16:49,440 --> 08:16:51,160
that's, there's no way that's how this pronounced.

9703
08:16:51,160 --> 08:16:53,840
Starts to dissolve in calcium and phosphate leach out.

9704
08:16:53,840 --> 08:16:55,480
That's de-mineralization between meals,

9705
08:16:55,480 --> 08:16:56,720
saliva neutralizes the acid

9706
08:16:56,720 --> 08:16:58,280
and supplies calcium and phosphate

9707
08:16:58,280 --> 08:17:00,000
that re-deposits into the enamel.

9708
08:17:00,000 --> 08:17:03,640
That's re-mineralization, cavities form

9709
08:17:03,640 --> 08:17:06,240
when de-mineralization wins over time.

9710
08:17:07,160 --> 08:17:09,720
What fluoride does, it builds a tougher mineral.

9711
08:17:09,720 --> 08:17:12,840
When fluoride is present during re-mineralization,

9712
08:17:12,840 --> 08:17:15,080
it gets incorporated into the rebuilt crystals,

9713
08:17:15,080 --> 08:17:19,720
it swaps in for the hydroxide group to form fluorapatite,

9714
08:17:19,720 --> 08:17:22,680
or fluoride enriched hydroxiapatite.

9715
08:17:23,680 --> 08:17:26,800
That mineral is less soluble and resists acid

9716
08:17:26,800 --> 08:17:28,960
down to about pH 4.5,

9717
08:17:28,960 --> 08:17:31,400
so the repaired enamel is stronger than the original.

9718
08:17:31,400 --> 08:17:32,920
It speeds up repair, fluoride ions,

9719
08:17:32,920 --> 08:17:34,080
sitting in plaque and saliva

9720
08:17:34,080 --> 08:17:35,200
track calcium and phosphate,

9721
08:17:35,200 --> 08:17:36,360
this accelerates your mineralization,

9722
08:17:36,360 --> 08:17:38,040
it can reverse early lesions,

9723
08:17:38,040 --> 08:17:40,680
the chalky white spots before, they become actual holes.

9724
08:17:42,080 --> 08:17:44,360
I'm so glad they got rid of this shit from our water, dude.

9725
08:17:45,760 --> 08:17:47,520
They were trying to brainwash us.

9726
08:17:53,320 --> 08:17:55,560
- I thought, initially, but maybe I'm wrong.

9727
08:17:55,560 --> 08:17:57,600
- Yeah, look it up, Chinese bone glue.

9728
08:17:57,600 --> 08:17:59,800
Yeah, science alert, scientists develop,

9729
08:17:59,800 --> 08:18:00,640
genies method, actually.

9730
08:18:00,640 --> 08:18:03,080
- This is also another Chinese article.

9731
08:18:04,160 --> 08:18:05,760
I don't know, science alert is a Chinese website.

9732
08:18:05,760 --> 08:18:06,760
Hold on, actually, that's not fair,

9733
08:18:06,760 --> 08:18:08,560
'cause there's a lot of legitimate research

9734
08:18:08,560 --> 08:18:09,760
that happens in China.

9735
08:18:11,440 --> 08:18:13,320
It's not fair to say that every researcher thing is like,

9736
08:18:13,320 --> 08:18:15,520
oh, this is Chinese propaganda, but it is funny.

9737
08:18:15,520 --> 08:18:17,280
Scientists in China have developed a liquid solution

9738
08:18:17,280 --> 08:18:18,560
that can effectively grow back

9739
08:18:18,560 --> 08:18:20,920
the external surface of damaged tooth enamel.

9740
08:18:20,920 --> 08:18:23,120
- It regenerates tooth enamel, that's another one.

9741
08:18:23,120 --> 08:18:25,400
But this was Japanese, I thought, initially.

9742
08:18:25,400 --> 08:18:26,600
- But maybe I'm wrong. - There's more too.

9743
08:18:26,600 --> 08:18:28,880
- Yeah, shout out to the Japanese as well.

9744
08:18:28,880 --> 08:18:29,960
It's not just the Chinese doing it.

9745
08:18:29,960 --> 08:18:30,800
- No.

9746
08:18:31,800 --> 08:18:34,160
- Wait, does he just have random shit

9747
08:18:34,160 --> 08:18:36,160
that he's just got to say, what is the point of this?

9748
08:18:36,160 --> 08:18:37,600
What do you think about this?

9749
08:18:37,600 --> 08:18:39,640
What do you think about this?

9750
08:18:39,640 --> 08:18:41,080
What do you think about that?

9751
08:18:41,080 --> 08:18:41,920
What do you think about this?

9752
08:18:41,920 --> 08:18:42,920
Like, you show up, it's like, what do you do?

9753
08:18:42,920 --> 08:18:44,080
I work in IT.

9754
08:18:44,080 --> 08:18:44,920
Really?

9755
08:18:44,920 --> 08:18:45,760
What do you know about?

9756
08:18:45,760 --> 08:18:46,720
Do you know anything about quantum computing?

9757
08:18:46,720 --> 08:18:47,560
Are we close?

9758
08:18:47,560 --> 08:18:49,840
How many quibits does your computer have to say?

9759
08:18:49,840 --> 08:18:52,600
Why the fuck would, oh my God.

9760
08:18:52,600 --> 08:18:53,960
- Bone 02, bio-adhesive,

9761
08:18:53,960 --> 08:18:55,760
redefining the future of fracture fixation.

9762
08:18:57,160 --> 08:18:58,440
Revolutionary bio-adhesive, known as Bono 2,

9763
08:18:58,440 --> 08:18:59,760
capable of repairing fractures in the minutes.

9764
08:18:59,760 --> 08:19:02,200
- Oh, more China, recently in China.

9765
08:19:02,200 --> 08:19:03,520
Clinical trials have been performed

9766
08:19:03,520 --> 08:19:05,880
on more than 150 patients in China.

9767
08:19:05,880 --> 08:19:07,880
- Clinical trials over 150 patients in China,

9768
08:19:07,880 --> 08:19:09,080
complex risk fracture,

9769
08:19:09,080 --> 08:19:10,320
treated with Bono 2, achieve rapid fixation

9770
08:19:10,320 --> 08:19:12,040
within three minutes using a two to three minute.

9771
08:19:12,040 --> 08:19:13,120
Two to three seconds.

9772
08:19:14,120 --> 08:19:17,180
- America, bone smashing, China, bone glue.

9773
08:19:21,320 --> 08:19:23,440
The Chinese bone glue is made from something

9774
08:19:23,440 --> 08:19:24,980
they learned from shellfish.

9775
08:19:29,800 --> 08:19:32,080
- I like those, dude, it's unreal, bro.

9776
08:19:32,080 --> 08:19:33,160
Kill me, bro.

9777
08:19:33,160 --> 08:19:34,760
- Send me the incision

9778
08:19:34,760 --> 08:19:37,000
that normally requires metal implants.

9779
08:19:46,760 --> 08:19:49,520
- While traditional meth is a bone fixation.

9780
08:19:49,520 --> 08:19:51,560
- Who is this dipshit?

9781
08:19:51,560 --> 08:19:53,680
Bro, look it up on PubMed.

9782
08:19:53,680 --> 08:19:56,240
Do you not know how to use a scientific database?

9783
08:19:56,240 --> 08:19:57,080
Uh-oh.

9784
08:19:57,080 --> 08:19:57,840
- Paradigm, okay, what is it though?

9785
08:19:57,840 --> 08:20:00,320
Jesus Christ, I want to impress you with mine.

9786
08:20:00,000 --> 08:20:10,960
with my reading bros never read a paper in his life on anything that ba and polycye working

9787
08:20:10,960 --> 08:20:17,120
overtime right now uh like what is he what is he what is he impressed i want to pull up a random

9788
08:20:17,120 --> 08:20:22,880
article and read part of the fucking introduction to you is that what fair and fractions in minutes

9789
08:20:23,520 --> 08:20:27,200
clinical trials over a hundred for the patients of china complex risk fracture treated with bono

9790
08:20:27,200 --> 08:20:30,000
to achieve rapid fixation within three minutes using a two to three minute through two to three

9791
08:20:30,000 --> 08:20:35,840
centimeter incision uh that normally requires metal implants while traditional methods of bone

9792
08:20:35,840 --> 08:20:40,960
fixation paradigm okay what is it though jesus christ i want to i want to impress you with my

9793
08:20:40,960 --> 08:20:47,120
with your reading skills of of this this uh this article this journal but in general it is it is

9794
08:20:47,120 --> 08:20:51,600
kind of fascinating like just the way that i always love reading bail amount just i'm not doing it

9795
08:20:51,600 --> 08:20:55,840
just because i believe it's something that i do in my spare time all the time but it is an

9796
08:20:55,840 --> 08:20:58,400
interesting like i think like the way that you were talking about a difficulty wrapping your head

9797
08:20:58,400 --> 08:21:01,840
around like the obsession with like taking you know and anti-vax sentiment and killing children

9798
08:21:01,840 --> 08:21:04,640
i have a little bit of a hard time like i guess i don't have such a hard time but it's just that

9799
08:21:04,640 --> 08:21:07,840
like we're essentially handing china the you know the world leader torch on a silver platter by

9800
08:21:07,840 --> 08:21:12,560
demolishing the american scientific community yeah the way oh poor dave here hasn't gotten all the

9801
08:21:12,560 --> 08:21:16,800
commie talking points yet but that is correct that's one of these sad things about motherfuckers like

9802
08:21:16,800 --> 08:21:22,160
his son and you should feel bad because you're kind of here assisting him tearing down constantly

9803
08:21:22,160 --> 08:21:28,960
the american everything american pharmaceuticals american defense american every american ai everything

9804
08:21:28,960 --> 08:21:34,240
that is on a tax in america he supports and and champions and advocates for in china

9805
08:21:35,200 --> 08:21:37,920
hey that we're doing there's just like all of this like america first rhetoric

9806
08:21:37,920 --> 08:21:41,280
yet we're just like taking ourselves out of the running in terms of like oh 100 percent it's so

9807
08:21:41,280 --> 08:21:44,240
it's so it's so annoying but it but also it's the whole of arts are multinational so what do they

9808
08:21:44,240 --> 08:21:47,520
care but the same as it was a whole for like just not having free college education i've never

9809
08:21:47,520 --> 08:21:50,160
understood that at all i'm like you want your labor force to be more productive it doesn't make

9810
08:21:50,160 --> 08:21:54,960
any sense that you are paywalling this thing yeah across the board increasingly unaffordable yeah

9811
08:21:54,960 --> 08:21:58,880
like ridiculously more unaffordable yeah that's another thing again oligarchs love spreading

9812
08:21:58,880 --> 08:22:03,600
vaccine hesitancy always first in line to get the vaccines oligarchs love uh disseminating propaganda

9813
08:22:03,600 --> 08:22:07,440
about how you shouldn't go to college college makes you gay their kids are all going to college yep

9814
08:22:07,440 --> 08:22:10,080
then they're all going to the biggest of colleges yeah they're going to harvard they're going to yale

9815
08:22:10,080 --> 08:22:12,720
they're going to yale they're going to harvard every single one of these like these aren't even

9816
08:22:12,720 --> 08:22:17,280
updated talking points i don't even know if this is true for the for the maga generation that fucking

9817
08:22:17,280 --> 08:22:22,880
home and dude isn't he the first fucking um is it cabinet person or whatever or is it the first person

9818
08:22:23,840 --> 08:22:27,760
fuck what was his thing he was like the first something that didn't even have a college degree

9819
08:22:30,080 --> 08:22:34,080
but like this was true he started i was talking about neil cons right now like he hasn't gotten

9820
08:22:34,080 --> 08:22:39,200
an update in talking points in like the past 15 years looking politicians too it's like Ted Cruz

9821
08:22:39,200 --> 08:22:42,400
yale graduate you know jadie vanis yale graduate and then they turn around and they're like yeah you

9822
08:22:42,400 --> 08:22:46,160
don't need to do that right it's very frustrating and and painfully transparent right they want an

9823
08:22:46,160 --> 08:22:49,520
uneducated populace they want people to not go to school and they want them to distrust anything

9824
08:22:49,520 --> 08:22:52,720
that is even associated with an institution inside it's not home it's not home i got that wrong

9825
08:22:52,720 --> 08:22:57,680
it was the guy who talked about the cia or the ultra top secret thing that he didn't even say

9826
08:22:57,680 --> 08:23:01,280
who said it was top secret because it was so top secret and good oh mark wane maulin that guy i think

9827
08:23:03,280 --> 08:23:16,000
mark wane maulin first no college degree or something what am i making this up hold on

9828
08:23:16,480 --> 08:23:21,920
he's the only u.s senator without a bachelor's degree

9829
08:23:24,560 --> 08:23:27,760
maybe not first ever i imagine i would pass there were senators without

9830
08:23:29,040 --> 08:23:34,640
he's the only one right now what a champion yeah so um do you have a lot of thoughts on elon

9831
08:23:34,640 --> 08:23:39,440
cutting doge like what he did or not yeah not cutting doge just uh his his the decides in general yeah

9832
08:23:39,440 --> 08:23:43,120
very very transparently just uh you know demolishing any institution that has the ability to regulate

9833
08:23:43,120 --> 08:23:47,040
him and and those that were specifically investigating him yeah for neural link and that's on whatever

9834
08:23:47,040 --> 08:23:49,840
what do you how do you feel about neural link i don't know that much about it i mean i don't i

9835
08:23:49,840 --> 08:23:53,760
want to be careful to not like completely thrown under the bus because i think that uh it could oh

9836
08:23:53,760 --> 08:24:01,680
wow look he's trying so hard oh my god the neural link shit used to be super cringe it was just like

9837
08:24:01,680 --> 08:24:06,000
detected the movements at the end of your fucking hand or whatever bullshit it was never fucking real

9838
08:24:06,000 --> 08:24:09,680
and i feel like there was no advance whatsoever in this shit and then i watched a thing like a

9839
08:24:09,680 --> 08:24:13,680
year ago everything is a year ago on my mind a few months ago but in the it's like plugged into your

9840
08:24:13,680 --> 08:24:20,080
brain it's crazy who that neural link shit is that is insane it's very cool be very promising for

9841
08:24:20,080 --> 08:24:23,280
people with very specific conditions that this is like they're they're the hope that they have

9842
08:24:23,280 --> 08:24:27,360
for regaining autonomy and stuff like that so you know it's like you know space x has rockets that

9843
08:24:27,360 --> 08:24:31,600
work and tesla bars can drive and uh the neural link could be a great thing for some people torturing

9844
08:24:31,600 --> 08:24:34,960
monkeys who knows i've no idea what's gonna be so far that's what i've heard the full scope of it but

9845
08:24:34,960 --> 08:24:37,920
but it's like i would never say like you know space x has never built a functional rocket you know

9846
08:24:37,920 --> 08:24:41,600
they have i don't know too much about neural link but yeah space x is actually i mean i hate to admit

9847
08:24:41,600 --> 08:24:45,600
this but it is probably his best product overall probably but it is still kind of like for example

9848
08:24:45,600 --> 08:24:49,760
is people worked on like actual engine here has worked on the project but of course it is probably

9849
08:24:49,760 --> 08:24:54,000
the best thing that is associated with ela musk so far yeah but far better than even tesla i would

9850
08:24:54,000 --> 08:24:58,560
say and of course it's um you know but it is top of public research yeah heavily subsidized by the

9851
08:24:58,560 --> 08:25:00,080
the government is also fucking defense contract

9852
08:25:00,000 --> 08:25:03,060
on top of that very like everything else a gigantic machine like like for

9853
08:25:03,060 --> 08:25:06,900
example you know the the commission of the of the lander for Artemis 4 Artemis

9854
08:25:06,900 --> 08:25:09,660
4 they're gonna land on the moon but they need a lander and so SpaceX was

9855
08:25:09,660 --> 08:25:12,220
heavily in the running but like I would bet a thousand dollars right now with

9856
08:25:12,220 --> 08:25:14,980
anyone that when Artemis 4 lands it will not be with the SpaceX land or something

9857
08:25:14,980 --> 08:25:19,140
blue origin or whatever it is oh really I just don't think you think blue origin

9858
08:25:19,140 --> 08:25:21,860
is better I mean look I don't know who's it'll be but it won't be SpaceX my brother

9859
08:25:21,860 --> 08:25:26,500
is a aerospace mechanical engineer so I'm you know I'm a little bit more

9860
08:25:26,500 --> 08:25:34,720
knowledgeable on this issue then oh man they feel like a classic 2-2

9861
08:25:34,720 --> 08:25:38,880
propaganda snow it doesn't feel like he's in the no no he has no idea this this

9862
08:25:38,880 --> 08:25:42,640
conversation has to be painful for him it must be to share space with this guy

9863
08:25:42,640 --> 08:25:47,480
who's in every that like he must be like who at some point he's like oh fuck is

9864
08:25:47,480 --> 08:25:52,420
this the leftist Joe Rogan is this is it happening he must have that feeling

9865
08:25:52,420 --> 08:25:55,020
then all these other things that I'm talking about that I'm not very

9866
08:25:55,020 --> 08:26:00,060
knowledgeable but from what I understand I mean it's a you know SpaceX is it's not

9867
08:26:00,060 --> 08:26:07,660
that bad as far as wow what a gr and sanely educated take not that bad is in

9868
08:26:07,660 --> 08:26:10,500
SpaceX doing more launches than like fucking every other fucking thing in the

9869
08:26:10,500 --> 08:26:13,860
world combined I don't know if that's true but I know they launch a fuck ton of

9870
08:26:13,860 --> 08:26:17,700
shit because they have to get all those motherfucking Starlings out there

9871
08:26:17,700 --> 08:26:26,360
or actually stop answering don't answer in chat don't ever answer my questions who

9872
08:26:26,360 --> 08:26:33,300
launches the most rockets into space at the moment question mark Claude will

9873
08:26:33,300 --> 08:26:47,740
answer not you not you chat triangulating what the fuck

9874
08:26:47,740 --> 08:26:54,660
Claude said SpaceX by a wide margin SpaceX passed its 100th orbital mission on

9875
08:26:54,660 --> 08:27:01,020
2026 or up to of 2026 hundredth orbital mission of 2026 on August 21st and it's

9876
08:27:01,020 --> 08:27:05,700
on pace well over 150 launches this year nearly all on the reusable Falcon 9

9877
08:27:05,700 --> 08:27:10,820
that's roughly as many as the rest of the world combined for the third year

9878
08:27:10,820 --> 08:27:18,460
running SpaceX has out launched every other country and company put together now I

9879
08:27:18,460 --> 08:27:22,780
need to have two brothers that are aeronautics engineers okay so they're

9880
08:27:22,780 --> 08:27:25,660
discovery they make rockets first reusable rocket like that's that's an

9881
08:27:25,660 --> 08:27:28,940
achievement that's definitely you know but um yeah China's catching up on that

9882
08:27:28,940 --> 08:27:34,060
front as well now they're not well I'm sorry I shouldn't say that I've never

9883
08:27:34,060 --> 08:27:37,980
heard that before maybe that I mean I'm sure they are doing some advancements

9884
08:27:37,980 --> 08:27:46,780
but um yeah I don't know wait

9885
08:27:51,140 --> 08:27:56,660
is China catching up question mark now Claude did say China is a clear second

9886
08:27:56,660 --> 08:28:09,660
it's actual pace has been well below SpaceX is so far it is launching more

9887
08:28:09,660 --> 08:28:16,540
rockets the groundwork for closing the gap is being laid this year on launch

9888
08:28:16,540 --> 08:28:23,780
count the gap is still large China's total has grown fast from 68 launches in

9889
08:28:23,780 --> 08:28:29,860
2024 to a record 92 in 2025 though it missed its goal of 100 this year started

9890
08:28:29,860 --> 08:28:34,900
poorly with two failures in China's first six launches yikes the year to date

9891
08:28:34,900 --> 08:28:39,620
tallies I found from earlier in 2026 show SpaceX alone launching roughly twice

9892
08:28:39,620 --> 08:28:44,660
as often as China the entire country of China okay so while China is growing

9893
08:28:44,660 --> 08:28:48,220
SpaceX's lead hasn't shrunk much

9894
08:28:51,260 --> 08:29:00,260
very familiar with the the starship stuff what about it just I am in the future if

9895
08:29:00,260 --> 08:29:04,820
starship can ever get off the ground we're not gonna be measuring this by like

9896
08:29:04,820 --> 08:29:10,020
lunches like total number of lunches probably more about you know my payload

9897
08:29:10,020 --> 08:29:17,820
yeah such a large thanks interesting to be fair someone sent me this link that

9898
08:29:17,820 --> 08:29:19,900
brightly pack a sexual enhancement pill the gas station might be laced with

9899
08:29:19,900 --> 08:29:28,020
dangerous drugs what why is he what is he doing bro

9900
08:29:29,940 --> 08:29:34,340
what what is this dream segment he brought him on to do a little bit of

9901
08:29:34,340 --> 08:29:36,900
science bullshit because he knew he had to you really want to talk about me and

9902
08:29:36,900 --> 08:29:39,220
should on me for a little bit he got that out of the way and now it's just

9903
08:29:39,220 --> 08:29:44,020
like what do you think about like this random science article sounds fun the

9904
08:29:44,020 --> 08:29:48,980
gas station rhino pills that you as a doctor suggested I think I mean they

9905
08:29:48,980 --> 08:29:53,140
prescribed me every time okay yeah yeah what do you say tears what do you say

9906
08:29:53,140 --> 08:29:55,220
to your fans that are tuning in right now that went to the gas station

9907
08:29:55,220 --> 08:29:58,180
immediately after you've said that I would say 35 minutes ago and took as many

9908
08:29:58,180 --> 08:30:01,980
rhino pills as possible they learned to recognize sarcasm

9909
08:30:00,000 --> 08:30:02,320
(laughing)

9910
08:30:02,320 --> 08:30:04,720
Yeah, May 2023, wait, this is from...

9911
08:30:04,720 --> 08:30:05,620
Wait, this is recent.

9912
08:30:20,400 --> 08:30:21,720
Magnum and...

9913
08:30:21,720 --> 08:30:23,720
- At Hassan, you need to have a professional geek

9914
08:30:23,720 --> 08:30:25,880
around stream to talk about this, uh-oh.

9915
08:30:25,880 --> 08:30:28,360
- Anaconda Rhino, but what's inside the package

9916
08:30:28,360 --> 08:30:29,360
maybe considerably different?

9917
08:30:29,360 --> 08:30:30,200
- Yeah, okay.

9918
08:30:34,240 --> 08:30:35,160
- Are we surprised by that?

9919
08:30:35,160 --> 08:30:36,120
- Yeah, here's the big stuff.

9920
08:30:36,120 --> 08:30:38,280
- Wow, this is devastating for the big Rhino

9921
08:30:38,280 --> 08:30:39,120
different?

9922
08:30:39,120 --> 08:30:40,040
- Yeah.

9923
08:30:40,040 --> 08:30:43,120
- Magnum and anaconda Rhino, but what's inside the package

9924
08:30:43,120 --> 08:30:44,120
maybe considerably different?

9925
08:30:44,120 --> 08:30:44,960
- Yeah, okay.

9926
08:30:44,960 --> 08:30:45,800
- Are we surprised by that?

9927
08:30:45,800 --> 08:30:46,640
- Yeah, here's the big stuff.

9928
08:30:46,640 --> 08:30:49,480
- Wow, this is devastating for the big Rhino consumers.

9929
08:30:50,640 --> 08:30:53,840
Anyway, properties of glue was instant adhesion

9930
08:30:53,840 --> 08:30:55,480
in blood, so wet physiological environments.

9931
08:30:55,480 --> 08:30:56,440
I'm still back on this fucking glue.

9932
08:30:56,440 --> 08:30:58,440
Oh, it was the oysters, that's what it was.

9933
08:30:58,440 --> 08:30:59,760
It's inspired by oysters, because the researchers

9934
08:30:59,760 --> 08:31:01,040
noticed their extraordinary ability to firmly attach

9935
08:31:01,040 --> 08:31:02,480
themselves in harsh underwater environment by secreting

9936
08:31:02,480 --> 08:31:04,000
a special adhesive known as a biocement,

9937
08:31:04,000 --> 08:31:05,080
which creates a strong chemical interaction

9938
08:31:05,080 --> 08:31:06,640
with surfaces and hardens quickly.

9939
08:31:06,640 --> 08:31:07,480
- Fascinating.

9940
08:31:07,480 --> 08:31:08,320
- Yeah.

9941
08:31:08,320 --> 08:31:09,480
- Nature is an endless source of inspiration.

9942
08:31:09,480 --> 08:31:12,180
- What's the strangest drug, uh, that hit?

9943
08:31:17,920 --> 08:31:20,000
- Where did he even get these threads from?

9944
08:31:20,000 --> 08:31:22,160
Okay, I looked into this because sometimes claims

9945
08:31:22,160 --> 08:31:24,360
that China invents why, it can be somewhat exaggerated,

9946
08:31:24,360 --> 08:31:27,440
but this is real and completely insane.

9947
08:31:28,600 --> 08:31:29,420
- Yeah.

9948
08:31:29,420 --> 08:31:30,840
- Nature is an endless source of inspiration.

9949
08:31:30,840 --> 08:31:34,680
- What's the strangest drug that has come from,

9950
08:31:34,680 --> 08:31:36,040
you know, like some kind of animal?

9951
08:31:36,040 --> 08:31:36,880
Like, orgy?

9952
08:31:36,880 --> 08:31:38,360
- Uh-huh, are GLP ones?

9953
08:31:38,360 --> 08:31:39,200
- In story?

9954
08:31:40,320 --> 08:31:42,280
- Well, didn't GLP ones come from...

9955
08:31:42,280 --> 08:31:45,040
- Me, how can you be next to her son?

9956
08:31:45,040 --> 08:31:46,840
- We're mind linked on everything, Dave.

9957
08:31:46,840 --> 08:31:48,400
What did these, I don't even remember where these came.

9958
08:31:48,400 --> 08:31:51,800
It was some fucking, it was some sea creature crab thing.

9959
08:31:51,800 --> 08:31:53,880
I don't know if we were looking for insulin related things

9960
08:31:53,880 --> 08:31:55,240
or sugar, blood sugar related things.

9961
08:31:55,240 --> 08:31:56,080
I don't remember what it came from,

9962
08:31:56,080 --> 08:31:58,040
but it was an out there animal

9963
08:31:58,040 --> 08:32:00,240
that we eventually derived this from.

9964
08:32:01,120 --> 08:32:02,520
Is it a lizard thing?

9965
08:32:02,520 --> 08:32:04,440
Maybe it was some lizard thing.

9966
08:32:04,440 --> 08:32:06,000
- Like, a iguanus fiddle or something?

9967
08:32:06,000 --> 08:32:06,840
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

9968
08:32:06,840 --> 08:32:07,680
- I think so.

9969
08:32:07,680 --> 08:32:08,640
Yeah, how do you feel about GLP ones?

9970
08:32:08,640 --> 08:32:11,000
I mean, I think, I mean, you know, you were talking about

9971
08:32:11,000 --> 08:32:11,840
like testosterone and stuff.

9972
08:32:11,840 --> 08:32:14,160
Like, I think that when there's a clinical need, right,

9973
08:32:14,160 --> 08:32:17,320
if you have, I mean, if you're obese,

9974
08:32:17,320 --> 08:32:19,200
I think why not try that, if all else fails.

9975
08:32:19,200 --> 08:32:20,800
And like, if you are in a condition

9976
08:32:20,800 --> 08:32:22,160
where you're harming yourself physically

9977
08:32:22,160 --> 08:32:24,600
and you can take a drug to alleviate a good portion of that,

9978
08:32:24,600 --> 08:32:25,440
I mean, it's true.

9979
08:32:25,440 --> 08:32:26,920
I think that there's a lot of clinical use for that.

9980
08:32:26,920 --> 08:32:28,080
I think that-- - Vila monster.

9981
08:32:28,080 --> 08:32:29,200
- That's what I was saying. - Yeah.

9982
08:32:29,200 --> 08:32:30,040
- I think when you see in Hollywood,

9983
08:32:30,040 --> 08:32:30,880
I think there's a lot of people taking it

9984
08:32:30,880 --> 08:32:32,520
that don't need it and then end up looking very gaunt

9985
08:32:32,520 --> 08:32:34,640
and that's, but that's what I was getting out

9986
08:32:34,640 --> 08:32:35,480
with testosterone as well.

9987
08:32:35,480 --> 08:32:36,720
Like, I would imagine that there's people listening

9988
08:32:36,720 --> 08:32:38,280
to podcasts and then they're all doing the ads

9989
08:32:38,280 --> 08:32:39,280
for the supplements and whatever.

9990
08:32:39,280 --> 08:32:41,320
You got all these guys taking stuff that they don't need.

9991
08:32:41,320 --> 08:32:42,960
Like, you shouldn't be taking drugs that you don't need

9992
08:32:42,960 --> 08:32:44,040
in general across the board

9993
08:32:44,040 --> 08:32:45,400
because all drugs, there's a question mark.

9994
08:32:45,400 --> 08:32:46,600
Like, when you put something into your body,

9995
08:32:46,600 --> 08:32:49,920
there are going to be like a small molecule as a target,

9996
08:32:49,920 --> 08:32:51,200
but it could potentially interact

9997
08:32:51,200 --> 08:32:52,160
with a lot of other targets.

9998
08:32:52,160 --> 08:32:53,320
And so there's always going to be,

9999
08:32:53,320 --> 08:32:57,880
there's no such thing as a drug without side effects,

10000
08:32:57,880 --> 08:32:59,040
what I'm saying. - And he understands how medication works.

10001
08:32:59,040 --> 08:33:00,440
All drugs are bad for you.

10002
08:33:00,440 --> 08:33:02,480
You're not supposed to take anything like that,

10003
08:33:02,480 --> 08:33:04,880
but the thing is, is that they probably target a thing

10004
08:33:04,880 --> 08:33:05,920
that's worse for you.

10005
08:33:05,920 --> 08:33:08,560
And so it does more good than bad, generally speaking.

10006
08:33:08,560 --> 08:33:09,840
That's, I'm going to be hyperbolic a little bit,

10007
08:33:09,840 --> 08:33:11,480
but like most, all drugs are going to have

10008
08:33:11,480 --> 08:33:12,520
some kind of side effect.

10009
08:33:12,520 --> 08:33:14,440
But the idea is that there's some condition

10010
08:33:14,440 --> 08:33:16,840
that it's treating and the goodness that it does there,

10011
08:33:16,840 --> 08:33:18,880
dramatically outweighs, or at least somewhat outweighs,

10012
08:33:18,880 --> 08:33:20,680
the badness that it does somewhere else.

10013
08:33:20,680 --> 08:33:23,360
And so I was asked about TRT earlier because he wanted it for

10014
08:33:23,360 --> 08:33:26,440
aesthetic purposes, which is not technically illegitimate.

10015
08:33:26,440 --> 08:33:28,480
You can do Botox or things for aesthetic purposes,

10016
08:33:28,480 --> 08:33:31,280
but it's different than like some clinically necessary thing

10017
08:33:31,280 --> 08:33:33,840
to get some therapeutic effect for some underlying disease

10018
08:33:33,840 --> 08:33:34,920
or condition or whatever,

10019
08:33:34,920 --> 08:33:37,240
unless your disease is body dysmorphia.

10020
08:33:37,240 --> 08:33:38,480
- You don't need a drug, you shouldn't take it.

10021
08:33:38,480 --> 08:33:40,560
But if you need one, or if there's a beneficial,

10022
08:33:40,560 --> 08:33:41,880
strongly beneficial outcome for you,

10023
08:33:41,880 --> 08:33:44,520
then it's something that you consider.

10024
08:33:44,520 --> 08:33:45,600
- I am listening to what he's saying,

10025
08:33:45,600 --> 08:33:47,280
and he's telling me to do the testosterone replacement

10026
08:33:47,280 --> 08:33:48,120
therapy chat.

10027
08:33:48,120 --> 08:33:49,440
- Ah, more jokes.

10028
08:33:49,440 --> 08:33:50,520
- You guys are misunderstanding what he's saying.

10029
08:33:50,520 --> 08:33:51,880
He's like, he's saying, I look, I look frail.

10030
08:33:51,880 --> 08:33:53,600
- The sad thing too is Dave is actually a really good guest.

10031
08:33:53,600 --> 08:33:55,920
He's been, cause his son is fucking retarded,

10032
08:33:55,920 --> 08:33:57,840
and he's been picking up the slack for him.

10033
08:33:57,840 --> 08:34:00,000
He's like decently personable and funny.

10034
08:34:00,000 --> 08:34:03,440
He's way less obnoxious and conversation is in general.

10035
08:34:03,440 --> 08:34:04,640
Then he is in just fucking YouTube videos,

10036
08:34:04,640 --> 08:34:05,880
although I understand that's an act,

10037
08:34:05,880 --> 08:34:08,400
but it's just like, oh my God, Jesus.

10038
08:34:08,400 --> 08:34:09,240
- And I need it.

10039
08:34:09,240 --> 08:34:10,360
Or I need the peptides.

10040
08:34:10,360 --> 08:34:12,120
I just wanna get RFK Junior's skin.

10041
08:34:12,120 --> 08:34:13,120
It's beautiful.

10042
08:34:13,120 --> 08:34:15,120
I feel like it's cool when people just look like that.

10043
08:34:15,120 --> 08:34:15,960
Like a leather pumpkin?

10044
08:34:15,960 --> 08:34:16,800
- Yeah.

10045
08:34:16,800 --> 08:34:19,080
- And I think he is, there's speculation that he's taking

10046
08:34:19,080 --> 08:34:21,240
peptides that have had that adverse effect,

10047
08:34:21,240 --> 08:34:23,080
cause no one's skin is supposed to look like that?

10048
08:34:23,080 --> 08:34:24,080
- Yeah, I don't know what he's saying.

10049
08:34:24,080 --> 08:34:25,080
I mean, he's clearly--

10050
08:34:25,080 --> 08:34:26,440
- Professor Dave, you saw, yeah.

10051
08:34:26,440 --> 08:34:28,200
- Jim's, or Gene's at the gym.

10052
08:34:28,200 --> 08:34:29,040
Yes or no?

10053
08:34:29,040 --> 08:34:30,120
- I, who would do that?

10054
08:34:30,120 --> 08:34:30,960
- That's a thing that people--

10055
08:34:30,960 --> 08:34:31,800
- Oh, RFK doesn't, yeah.

10056
08:34:31,800 --> 08:34:32,640
- Yeah, wasn't there a video of him

10057
08:34:32,640 --> 08:34:34,600
working out with Kim Rotherson?

10058
08:34:34,600 --> 08:34:35,560
- What about, what about this?

10059
08:34:35,560 --> 08:34:36,800
How does this make you feel?

10060
08:34:36,800 --> 08:34:39,040
- Hold on guys, I'll be back in fashion.

10061
08:34:39,040 --> 08:34:40,520
(upbeat music)

10062
08:34:40,520 --> 08:34:41,360
- Future president.

10063
08:34:43,160 --> 08:34:45,120
Wait, oh, this one, he doesn't even use his hand.

10064
08:34:45,120 --> 08:34:49,700
(upbeat music)

10065
08:34:53,360 --> 08:34:54,360
- He's shaking so much.

10066
08:34:55,800 --> 08:34:57,440
It's like, that, this bravado works for you.

10067
08:34:57,440 --> 08:34:58,280
- He knows so.

10068
08:34:58,280 --> 08:34:59,860
(upbeat music)

10069
08:35:00,000 --> 08:35:03,240
- Why is he always around snakes?

10070
08:35:03,240 --> 08:35:04,580
- I'm here 'cause I got a call.

10071
08:35:04,580 --> 08:35:05,820
- I'm here because I got a call.

10072
08:35:05,820 --> 08:35:06,820
- I'm here because I got a call.

10073
08:35:06,820 --> 08:35:08,520
- He's having problems with this snake.

10074
08:35:08,520 --> 08:35:09,360
- He's having problems with this snake.

10075
08:35:09,360 --> 08:35:10,180
- I'm having problems with this snake.

10076
08:35:10,180 --> 08:35:11,000
- I'm having problems with this snake.

10077
08:35:11,000 --> 08:35:11,920
- I'm having problems with this snake.

10078
08:35:11,920 --> 08:35:13,060
- I'm having problems with this snake.

10079
08:35:13,060 --> 08:35:14,560
- I'm having problems with this snake.

10080
08:35:14,560 --> 08:35:15,800
- But the genius thing is like,

10081
08:35:15,800 --> 08:35:18,000
I think it's this remnant of like cowboy,

10082
08:35:18,000 --> 08:35:19,960
you know, like, I'm a cowboy, you know?

10083
08:35:19,960 --> 08:35:21,600
And Kid Rock has that cowboy song, so that checks out.

10084
08:35:21,600 --> 08:35:22,880
- Yeah, well, they did.

10085
08:35:22,880 --> 08:35:24,520
Have you ever seen the video of them at the Son of the other?

10086
08:35:24,520 --> 08:35:25,360
- Yeah, I saw that.

10087
08:35:25,360 --> 08:35:31,280
- And what about I think? - Yeah, I was very turned on by that as well.

10088
08:35:31,280 --> 08:35:32,120
- You want to see him catch these snakes?

10089
08:35:32,120 --> 08:35:33,280
This one is titled, "Our Kid Jr. The Snake."

10090
08:35:33,280 --> 08:35:34,120
- I found this snake.

10091
08:35:34,120 --> 08:35:34,960
- All right, well, this place I gotta go, people.

10092
08:35:34,960 --> 08:35:35,800
- I found out that you didn't help.

10093
08:35:35,800 --> 08:35:36,800
- Leaving you with this video.

10094
08:35:36,800 --> 08:35:37,640
- It's right.

10095
08:35:37,640 --> 08:35:39,560
It cuts and there's an immediate Hezbollah propaganda video

10096
08:35:39,560 --> 08:35:40,680
that starts playing.

10097
08:35:40,680 --> 08:35:41,520
Just kidding.

10098
08:35:41,520 --> 08:35:42,880
(laughs)

10099
08:35:42,880 --> 08:35:44,440
- Did you go for snake?

10100
08:35:44,440 --> 08:35:46,440
You want some clippers or something?

10101
08:35:46,440 --> 08:35:50,200
- I think I can get a fish.

10102
08:35:50,200 --> 08:35:52,040
- I came up with a sword, and I saw the tail,

10103
08:35:52,040 --> 08:35:53,720
and then I realized it's all caught up.

10104
08:35:53,720 --> 08:35:55,240
So then it calls your daughter.

10105
08:35:55,240 --> 08:35:56,240
- And then here you are?

10106
08:35:56,240 --> 08:35:57,240
(laughs)

10107
08:35:57,240 --> 08:35:58,240
- I made you call my daughter.

10108
08:35:58,240 --> 08:35:59,240
- Well, I know that you're a snake.

10109
08:35:59,240 --> 08:36:00,240
I wish you could--

10110
08:36:00,240 --> 08:36:01,240
- Is it Trump?

10111
08:36:01,240 --> 08:36:02,240
- It was an easy BB.

10112
08:36:02,240 --> 08:36:03,240
- It's an easy one.

10113
08:36:03,240 --> 08:36:04,240
- I need one.

10114
08:36:04,240 --> 08:36:06,240
- Scissors are a little small to my fingers.

10115
08:36:06,240 --> 08:36:07,240
They're Cheryl scissors.

10116
08:36:07,240 --> 08:36:08,240
- Oh, they're all right.

10117
08:36:08,240 --> 08:36:09,240
- That's all right.

10118
08:36:09,240 --> 08:36:10,240
- I'm very excited about that.

10119
08:36:10,240 --> 08:36:11,240
- Go back.

10120
08:36:11,240 --> 08:36:12,240
- You're a scissor.

10121
08:36:12,240 --> 08:36:13,240
- You're a scissor.

10122
08:36:13,240 --> 08:36:14,240
- You don't.

10123
08:36:14,240 --> 08:36:15,240
- Yeah, that's not true.

10124
08:36:15,240 --> 08:36:16,240
- Wow.

10125
08:36:16,240 --> 08:36:17,240
- Thank you so much, Bobby.

10126
08:36:17,240 --> 08:36:18,240
- Oh, wow.

10127
08:36:18,240 --> 08:36:19,240
- Thank you so much, Bobby.

10128
08:36:19,240 --> 08:36:20,240
- Thank you so much, Bobby.

10129
08:36:20,240 --> 08:36:21,240
- Oh, wow.

10130
08:36:21,240 --> 08:36:28,240
- Thank you so much, Bobby.

10131
08:36:28,240 --> 08:36:29,240
- Wow.

10132
08:36:29,240 --> 08:36:30,240
- Thank you so much, Bobby.

10133
08:36:30,240 --> 08:36:31,240
- What a hero.

10134
08:36:31,240 --> 08:36:32,240
- You gotta stick it out and you're gone.

10135
08:36:32,240 --> 08:36:33,240
- Yeah.

10136
08:36:33,240 --> 08:36:34,240
You know what?

10137
08:36:34,240 --> 08:36:35,240
I'll put him up in the--

10138
08:36:35,240 --> 08:36:36,240
- I'll tell Cheryl about this.

10139
08:36:36,240 --> 08:36:37,240
- I'll put him back.

10140
08:36:37,240 --> 08:36:38,240
- Why is Cheryl asleep?

10141
08:36:38,240 --> 08:36:39,240
- It's not Cheryl.

10142
08:36:39,240 --> 08:36:40,240
- It's not Cheryl.

10143
08:36:40,240 --> 08:36:41,240
- It's not Cheryl.

10144
08:36:41,240 --> 08:36:42,240
- It's not Cheryl.

10145
08:36:42,240 --> 08:36:43,240
- It's not Cheryl.

10146
08:36:43,240 --> 08:36:44,240
- It's not Cheryl.

10147
08:36:44,240 --> 08:36:45,240
- It's not Cheryl.

10148
08:36:45,240 --> 08:36:46,240
- It's not Cheryl.

10149
08:36:46,240 --> 08:36:47,240
- It's not Cheryl.

10150
08:36:47,240 --> 08:36:48,240
- I really appreciate it.

10151
08:36:48,240 --> 08:36:49,240
- It's not Cheryl.

10152
08:36:49,240 --> 08:36:50,240
- It's not Cheryl.

10153
08:36:50,240 --> 08:36:54,240
- I mean, the thing is, there is something about him, apparently, that is like, you know,

10154
08:36:54,240 --> 08:36:58,240
women respond very positively too, 'cause I don't know if you remember, but Olivia Nuzzi

10155
08:36:58,240 --> 08:37:03,840
was like doing an article on him, and then she like basically cheated on her husband with

10156
08:37:03,840 --> 08:37:06,680
RFK Jr. and like fell in love with him, and they were saying like, gross shit to one another

10157
08:37:06,680 --> 08:37:07,680
as well.

10158
08:37:07,680 --> 08:37:11,240
There's like a young woman with, you know, career prospects and media, and how old was he

10159
08:37:11,240 --> 08:37:12,240
at the time?

10160
08:37:12,240 --> 08:37:13,240
- This was like two years ago or something.

10161
08:37:13,240 --> 08:37:14,240
Like it was like--

10162
08:37:14,240 --> 08:37:15,240
- So you had an affair?

10163
08:37:15,240 --> 08:37:16,240
- It was--

10164
08:37:16,240 --> 08:37:17,240
Okay, we were gonna get--

10165
08:37:17,240 --> 08:37:18,240
- I don't know.

10166
08:37:18,240 --> 08:37:19,240
I don't remember like his merit history or how many--

10167
08:37:19,240 --> 08:37:20,240
- No, no, no, no.

10168
08:37:20,240 --> 08:37:22,240
This was an affair, yes, but Cheryl obviously didn't care about it, but--

10169
08:37:22,240 --> 08:37:25,240
- This is a crazy, and just crazy, out there--

10170
08:37:25,240 --> 08:37:26,240
- Olivia Nuzzi fell from Grace Fongerome.

10171
08:37:26,240 --> 08:37:28,240
- I don't know why he's bringing that up now, but--

10172
08:37:28,240 --> 08:37:30,240
- Man, with her source, RFK Jr. here's what went wrong.

10173
08:37:30,240 --> 08:37:32,240
New York magazine writer Olivia Nuzzi was known for her political reporting and profiles

10174
08:37:32,240 --> 08:37:35,240
in October 2024 when the news broke that she allegedly had a romantic entanglement with

10175
08:37:35,240 --> 08:37:38,240
one of her subjects, then Republican presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

10176
08:37:38,240 --> 08:37:41,240
Nuzzi lost her job and disappeared from public life until recently, and then she released

10177
08:37:41,240 --> 08:37:46,240
a book called American Canto, and then there was like a back and forth between her and her

10178
08:37:46,240 --> 08:37:49,240
husband at the time, who, like her ex-husband was writing like self-stack clothes about

10179
08:37:49,240 --> 08:37:53,240
how he was getting cooked, which was crazy, and one of my, one of the things that like

10180
08:37:53,240 --> 08:37:57,240
remains trapped in my mind, I can't get it out of my brain, is she basically says that

10181
08:37:57,240 --> 08:38:02,240
when he, when she first got in his pickup truck, she was taken aback by the smell, so apparently

10182
08:38:02,240 --> 08:38:06,240
he's ranked, like he just does not smell great at all, but she fell for it regardless.

10183
08:38:06,240 --> 08:38:07,240
- Fair moans, I don't know.

10184
08:38:07,240 --> 08:38:08,240
- Yeah, she lost her job.

10185
08:38:08,240 --> 08:38:09,240
- She should do it.

10186
08:38:09,240 --> 08:38:12,240
- Yeah, I mean, this is very entertaining, it's definitely the part I'm the least interested

10187
08:38:12,240 --> 08:38:19,240
in, I mean, it's like, I care about the, you know, (laughing)

10188
08:38:19,240 --> 08:38:24,240
(laughing)

10189
08:38:24,240 --> 08:38:25,240
- Oh shit.

10190
08:38:25,240 --> 08:38:28,240
- He's like, how that like, excuse me?

10191
08:38:28,240 --> 08:38:33,240
- Boring people with policy, but it's fun, it's fun to know about the inner workings.

10192
08:38:33,240 --> 08:38:34,240
- Yeah, it's the Kennedy Fair moans.

10193
08:38:34,240 --> 08:38:35,240
This is a part of it.

10194
08:38:35,240 --> 08:38:38,240
This is how he was able to seduce Donald Trump into this, to get this position.

10195
08:38:38,240 --> 08:38:41,240
- Well, yeah, I think he just had kind of a grassroots, some grassroots momentum, and

10196
08:38:41,240 --> 08:38:43,240
Trump was like, you know, that's for me.

10197
08:38:43,240 --> 08:38:47,240
And the people in the Maha movement are starting to lose faith in RFG Junior a little bit.

10198
08:38:47,240 --> 08:38:53,240
- I think so, I think that PFAS and glyphosate, because they were two substances that he specifically

10199
08:38:53,240 --> 08:38:57,240
campaigned on so heavily, and then for him to de-regulate both of them, they, a lot of

10200
08:38:57,240 --> 08:38:58,240
people felt that was a betrayal.

10201
08:38:58,240 --> 08:39:01,240
I think that a certain percentage or so brainwashed that they'll find a way to justify it, and

10202
08:39:01,240 --> 08:39:05,240
obviously there was rhetoric out of HHS to justify it, but a lot of people are like, okay,

10203
08:39:05,240 --> 08:39:09,240
you are totally saying one thing and doing another, is this, what are you doing?

10204
08:39:09,240 --> 08:39:12,240
I mean, you know, the educated among us were like, yeah, what the fuck?

10205
08:39:12,240 --> 08:39:14,240
Come on, you really thought he was going to do something good for you?

10206
08:39:14,240 --> 08:39:16,240
But, yeah, I mean, I think Maha's splintering.

10207
08:39:16,240 --> 08:39:17,240
I think Maha got in.

10208
08:39:17,240 --> 08:39:18,240
- Stop.

10209
08:39:18,240 --> 08:39:22,240
- I was trying to interject with something completely and totally not related to what you just said now.

10210
08:39:22,240 --> 08:39:23,240
- Let's go.

10211
08:39:23,240 --> 08:39:24,240
- Oddly.

10212
08:39:24,240 --> 08:39:25,240
- Yeah, splintering.

10213
08:39:25,240 --> 08:39:26,240
- Come on.

10214
08:39:26,240 --> 08:39:27,240
- So, what do we got?

10215
08:39:27,240 --> 08:39:29,240
- Can you ask David about how Monsanto has protected chemicals that may cause Parkinson's?

10216
08:39:29,240 --> 08:39:31,240
Do you know anything about that?

10217
08:39:31,240 --> 08:39:32,240
I don't know.

10218
08:39:32,240 --> 08:39:34,240
- Okay, that actually wasn't as bad as I thought it was.

10219
08:39:34,240 --> 08:39:36,240
- No, about Parkinson's.

10220
08:39:36,240 --> 08:39:38,240
- Still no engagement, but that's good.

10221
08:39:38,240 --> 08:39:43,240
I know that glyphosate has a relatively credible cancer link in very, very high.

10222
08:39:43,240 --> 08:39:48,240
There was one case of leukemia, I think, but this is a worker who practically bathes and

10223
08:39:48,240 --> 08:39:49,240
stuff, you know?

10224
08:39:49,240 --> 08:39:50,240
- Yeah.

10225
08:39:50,240 --> 08:39:51,240
- Yeah.

10226
08:39:51,240 --> 08:39:54,240
- I think more with Monsanto, it's more just like the shadiness of like, it's not that their

10227
08:39:54,240 --> 08:39:58,240
product is patented, I think of that makes sense, but I was reading about if the seeds go into

10228
08:39:58,240 --> 08:39:59,800
like through the wind like in some other form

10229
08:39:59,800 --> 08:40:00,640
that they're like.

10230
08:40:00,000 --> 08:40:01,300
no, now you OS like part of your company,

10231
08:40:01,300 --> 08:40:02,240
like that's super shady.

10232
08:40:02,240 --> 08:40:03,820
- Yeah, and that is, there's also a very limited amount

10233
08:40:03,820 --> 08:40:05,800
of like non Monsanto seed agriculture anyway.

10234
08:40:05,800 --> 08:40:07,200
They've like completely dominated the space.

10235
08:40:07,200 --> 08:40:10,400
- Yeah, I think there's reasons to dislike Monsanto,

10236
08:40:10,400 --> 08:40:12,480
but most of them are just like general monopolization of like,

10237
08:40:12,480 --> 08:40:13,320
it's just general.

10238
08:40:13,320 --> 08:40:16,280
- This is actually, Dave here to Hassan is literally like,

10239
08:40:16,280 --> 08:40:17,280
what does this crystal do?

10240
08:40:17,280 --> 08:40:19,860
Like literally, come on, this is roll.

10241
08:40:19,860 --> 08:40:21,800
- Huge business stuff.

10242
08:40:21,800 --> 08:40:23,760
It's never, you ever notice that like when people are mad

10243
08:40:23,760 --> 08:40:24,920
about like big farmer mindset or something,

10244
08:40:24,920 --> 08:40:26,080
it's always for the wrong things.

10245
08:40:26,080 --> 08:40:27,440
I mean like, no, be mad about this thing.

10246
08:40:27,440 --> 08:40:28,280
Don't be mad about this fake thing

10247
08:40:28,280 --> 08:40:29,120
that they're trying to get you mad about.

10248
08:40:29,120 --> 08:40:31,040
- Yeah, it's, all right, well, Professor Dave,

10249
08:40:31,040 --> 08:40:32,640
thanks so much for spending some time with us.

10250
08:40:32,640 --> 08:40:33,480
This was great.

10251
08:40:33,480 --> 08:40:35,560
One last thing I wanted to ask you.

10252
08:40:35,560 --> 08:40:37,840
How did you, you know, once you did the destiny stuff,

10253
08:40:37,840 --> 08:40:39,400
I mean, was it, was it?

10254
08:40:44,480 --> 08:40:46,960
- How do it, how do I, I just don't understand.

10255
08:40:46,960 --> 08:40:48,760
I'm banned from his platform.

10256
08:40:48,760 --> 08:40:52,120
We're in pretty different political spaces right now.

10257
08:40:52,120 --> 08:40:55,320
I understand how I'm living in this guy's mind so much.

10258
08:40:56,320 --> 08:40:58,520
It's got to be people feeding him clips or something

10259
08:40:58,520 --> 08:40:59,920
maybe 'cause Justical and Doobie and All Em

10260
08:40:59,920 --> 08:41:00,960
are constantly sending him shit.

10261
08:41:00,960 --> 08:41:02,000
So he's like keeping up to date.

10262
08:41:02,000 --> 08:41:04,040
I just don't understand.

10263
08:41:04,040 --> 08:41:05,400
Jesus Christ.

10264
08:41:05,400 --> 08:41:09,160
- You, how did you, you know, once you did the destiny stuff,

10265
08:41:09,160 --> 08:41:13,680
I mean, was it more aggressive than any other community

10266
08:41:13,680 --> 08:41:14,680
that you dealt with?

10267
08:41:14,680 --> 08:41:15,520
- Yes.

10268
08:41:15,520 --> 08:41:16,600
- Yeah, what are some of the big differences?

10269
08:41:16,600 --> 08:41:19,600
- No, shot is that true.

10270
08:41:19,600 --> 08:41:24,600
I don't believe that versus all of the anti-vaxxer, anti-science,

10271
08:41:26,480 --> 08:41:29,120
all the, well, actually, well, actually wait,

10272
08:41:29,120 --> 08:41:33,960
actually, it might be because I don't think

10273
08:41:33,960 --> 08:41:35,680
he was getting very much viewership on this videos

10274
08:41:35,680 --> 08:41:36,520
for a while.

10275
08:41:36,520 --> 08:41:37,600
So actually fighting with me and my fan base

10276
08:41:37,600 --> 08:41:39,400
might be the biggest fight that he's been in in a while.

10277
08:41:39,400 --> 08:41:40,240
Maybe.

10278
08:41:41,960 --> 08:41:43,200
Well, no, actually, no, at least it's okay.

10279
08:41:43,200 --> 08:41:48,200
253,000 views, 642,000 views, no, nevermind, nevermind, nevermind.

10280
08:41:54,080 --> 08:41:57,440
Although his definition of fighting, though, is gonna be,

10281
08:41:57,440 --> 08:41:59,560
I had to delete, like, 12,000 comments

10282
08:41:59,560 --> 08:42:01,960
'cause I'm deleting for every single day I'm up

10283
08:42:01,960 --> 08:42:03,680
for 15 hours a deleting comments

10284
08:42:03,680 --> 08:42:07,360
that are even asking me a challenging question on my YouTube.

10285
08:42:07,360 --> 08:42:09,080
Like, we can see that work.

10286
08:42:09,080 --> 08:42:11,200
- This is in your experience from what you, you know,

10287
08:42:11,200 --> 08:42:13,000
the barrage of attacks that you got inundated with.

10288
08:42:13,000 --> 08:42:15,400
- It's just so persistent, just never let's up.

10289
08:42:15,400 --> 08:42:16,240
So I've said this in my videos,

10290
08:42:16,240 --> 08:42:18,360
is that like the only other response that is comparable

10291
08:42:18,360 --> 08:42:19,640
was like Matt Walsh, Daily Wire,

10292
08:42:19,640 --> 08:42:20,920
like that got sent after me.

10293
08:42:20,920 --> 08:42:22,720
But they're so, just like, they're so vapid

10294
08:42:22,720 --> 08:42:25,360
in the news cycle that like, they harassed me like crazy

10295
08:42:25,360 --> 08:42:26,720
for a week or two, and then they moved on

10296
08:42:26,720 --> 08:42:27,640
and I never heard from them again.

10297
08:42:27,640 --> 08:42:29,400
Destiny's cult is just like, I'm on the list now.

10298
08:42:29,400 --> 08:42:30,240
- They now stop, yeah.

10299
08:42:30,240 --> 08:42:31,320
- I'm not as high as you, but I'm on the list,

10300
08:42:31,320 --> 08:42:33,320
and it's just like, it's just never ending.

10301
08:42:33,320 --> 08:42:34,640
- Never, where?

10302
08:42:34,640 --> 08:42:36,680
He doesn't even have a social media.

10303
08:42:36,680 --> 08:42:38,480
Like, he's talking about comments to the videos

10304
08:42:38,480 --> 08:42:39,840
that he made of me, like.

10305
08:42:39,840 --> 08:42:42,000
- All right, well, Professor Dave, what do you wanna plug?

10306
08:42:42,000 --> 08:42:43,440
What do you wanna promote for people?

10307
08:42:43,440 --> 08:42:44,280
- Yeah, just the channel.

10308
08:42:44,280 --> 08:42:46,320
Professor Dave explains, go watch a few videos and, yeah.

10309
08:42:46,320 --> 08:42:47,160
- All right, thank you.

10310
08:42:47,160 --> 08:42:48,880
And thank you for the great work.

10311
08:42:48,880 --> 08:42:49,720
- All right.

10312
08:42:52,920 --> 08:42:54,200
- What up, dude?

10313
08:42:54,200 --> 08:42:55,960
Okay, that was Professor Dave.

10314
08:42:55,960 --> 08:42:58,000
Hopefully, that was an enlightening

10315
08:42:58,000 --> 08:42:59,440
and exciting conversation for all of you.

10316
08:42:59,440 --> 08:43:00,560
I certainly enjoyed it.

10317
08:43:01,560 --> 08:43:03,200
It was great, he's awesome.

10318
08:43:03,200 --> 08:43:04,440
Go show support to his chat,

10319
08:43:04,440 --> 08:43:08,080
or go show support to his channel, he's dope.

10320
08:43:08,080 --> 08:43:08,920
Brilliant guy.

10321
08:43:08,920 --> 08:43:12,720
I hope I didn't, I hope it wasn't a shameful experience

10322
08:43:12,720 --> 08:43:13,720
for all of you to sit through

10323
08:43:13,720 --> 08:43:17,240
and recognize how little I know about science in particular.

10324
08:43:17,240 --> 08:43:19,840
I tried to make it as entertaining as possible,

10325
08:43:19,840 --> 08:43:21,520
and I wish I was lying.

10326
08:43:21,520 --> 08:43:23,320
I wish I could tell you,

10327
08:43:23,320 --> 08:43:25,160
oh, I'm just faking being a dumb guy.

10328
08:43:25,160 --> 08:43:26,880
I am that dumb, okay?

10329
08:43:26,880 --> 08:43:29,720
- It's so annoying, it's such an American culture take too.

10330
08:43:29,720 --> 08:43:32,240
He is really the, him and Donald Trump,

10331
08:43:32,240 --> 08:43:35,400
these are like the worst examples

10332
08:43:35,400 --> 08:43:37,760
of what America can produce,

10333
08:43:37,760 --> 08:43:40,360
like fake foreign nationals that are rich enough

10334
08:43:40,360 --> 08:43:43,480
to be born in America, people who have a silver spoon,

10335
08:43:43,480 --> 08:43:46,560
people who have no taste, they don't have any culture,

10336
08:43:46,560 --> 08:43:47,400
they don't have any hobbies.

10337
08:43:47,400 --> 08:43:48,560
Like, everything Trump touches

10338
08:43:48,560 --> 08:43:50,800
is like just tasteless and gaudy and gold.

10339
08:43:50,800 --> 08:43:52,560
Everything Trump, everything Hassan buys

10340
08:43:52,560 --> 08:43:55,440
is just like expensive, it's price tag fashion.

10341
08:43:55,440 --> 08:43:57,280
They really are like two,

10342
08:43:57,280 --> 08:43:59,200
like the spinning image of each other.

10343
08:43:59,200 --> 08:44:02,240
Like this, it's a very, well I should say American centric,

10344
08:44:02,240 --> 08:44:03,560
'cause I'm sure there are other cultures as well,

10345
08:44:03,560 --> 08:44:05,160
but compared to at least Japanese media,

10346
08:44:05,160 --> 08:44:06,600
it's a very American centric take to be like,

10347
08:44:06,600 --> 08:44:09,160
oh, I'm so stupid, but I'm a man, and I'm so dumb,

10348
08:44:09,160 --> 08:44:10,160
but like, that's okay, good.

10349
08:44:10,160 --> 08:44:11,360
Like, why would you,

10350
08:44:11,360 --> 08:44:13,320
for somebody that prides themselves on being a political figure

10351
08:44:13,320 --> 08:44:14,760
and then brags about your college degree,

10352
08:44:14,760 --> 08:44:15,720
like, I'm so dumb.

10353
08:44:15,720 --> 08:44:18,040
Like, it's not even like he was dumb in the interview,

10354
08:44:18,040 --> 08:44:18,920
like he couldn't know the material,

10355
08:44:18,920 --> 08:44:20,240
he just put zero effort in,

10356
08:44:20,240 --> 08:44:22,400
and he really doesn't know anything at all about science,

10357
08:44:22,400 --> 08:44:24,280
like what, I don't know, whatever.

10358
08:44:24,280 --> 08:44:26,640
- I wish I could tell you, oh, I'm just faking

10359
08:44:26,640 --> 08:44:29,000
being a dumb guy, I am that dumb, okay?

10360
08:44:29,000 --> 08:44:33,040
See, notice, I know, I know my limitations, okay?

10361
08:44:33,040 --> 08:44:35,640
I know what I know, I know what I'm competent in,

10362
08:44:36,720 --> 08:44:40,800
and I know what I don't know, okay?

10363
08:44:40,800 --> 08:44:41,640
- Okay.

10364
08:44:41,640 --> 08:44:42,640
- Your brother's assigned to us, what are you doing?

10365
08:44:42,640 --> 08:44:44,480
Yeah, he took all the science genes.

10366
08:44:46,240 --> 08:44:48,520
He took all the science genes, that's the problem.

10367
08:44:48,520 --> 08:44:50,080
He left me, man, it only gets harder, you can't really

10368
08:44:50,080 --> 08:44:51,480
compare him to Trump in any way.

10369
08:44:51,480 --> 08:44:53,400
I think the behaviors are one-to-one, I think you're a map.

10370
08:44:53,400 --> 08:44:55,000
Name me a thing that's not comparable.

10371
08:44:55,000 --> 08:44:56,480
I think you can map the behaviors on one-to-one,

10372
08:44:56,480 --> 08:44:58,760
I think they're spinning images of each other.

10373
08:45:00,000 --> 08:45:02,000
None for me

10374
08:45:05,840 --> 08:45:11,780
All right progressives a pack of the future the Democratic Party near Tandon and Matthew Husson head-to-head by Al Jazeera and it is

10375
08:45:14,600 --> 08:45:19,100
Is that a meme on his string that he pronounced Al Jazeera? That's a meat that's his bro

10376
08:45:19,100 --> 08:45:24,600
I don't even know I can't we got to be progressives a pack of the future the Democratic Party near Tandon and Matthew Husson head-to-head by Al Jazeera

10377
08:45:24,600 --> 08:45:29,860
Maybe his brain was messed cuz he was trying to remember to say me that he met his son. She was trying to do the fucking pronunciation

10378
08:45:29,860 --> 08:45:36,600
And it is maybe no, he just says to be a mean first dream bro sitting at 400,000 views in oh, let me fix this

10379
08:45:37,600 --> 08:45:39,920
Sitting at 426,000 views in one day

10380
08:45:40,800 --> 08:45:42,800
Told you I was gonna watch it. We're gonna watch it now

10381
08:45:44,760 --> 08:45:50,560
Hey engine now, we're back to now we're back to my field of study the US midterms the Democrats are feeling confident

10382
08:45:54,600 --> 08:45:56,600
We're a threat

10383
08:45:57,680 --> 08:46:00,680
Do you think the first five comments he makes about Neera

10384
08:46:02,080 --> 08:46:06,480
Do you think he can get through five comments will one of them be substantive?

10385
08:46:07,480 --> 08:46:10,040
Or will all of them be personal insults?

10386
08:46:11,400 --> 08:46:13,400
For the first five comments

10387
08:46:15,880 --> 08:46:17,880
Why Jesus

10388
08:46:19,320 --> 08:46:23,240
To their corrupt system the part I think do I count like she's a centrist

10389
08:46:25,600 --> 08:46:29,440
Like the right flank of the party liberal do I count that is like a good faith substantive?

10390
08:46:29,960 --> 08:46:31,960
I'll do that as a neutral, okay

10391
08:46:32,320 --> 08:46:35,120
He's eyeing a blue way with hope that we're gaining a majority in Congress

10392
08:46:35,720 --> 08:46:41,440
Weren't you born first? How do you take him? I was born first. Okay, I was born first I

10393
08:46:42,880 --> 08:46:44,880
think

10394
08:46:51,520 --> 08:46:54,360
When did your camera get so good YouTube is fucking up the quality what do you mean?

10395
08:46:55,600 --> 08:47:00,640
I just uh, you see see here's what happened. Okay, I think

10396
08:47:03,640 --> 08:47:06,600
Professor Dave's still in the house. I don't know if I should get into this this

10397
08:47:07,000 --> 08:47:11,640
scientific theory that I picked up from Felix Biederman, so it's all about your father's come

10398
08:47:14,520 --> 08:47:16,520
See what happened is I

10399
08:47:17,120 --> 08:47:19,920
Was the stupid nut and a way father help

10400
08:47:21,760 --> 08:47:25,760
Versus methyhasan, but as the Democrats bump in the polls more to do with president Trump's own

10401
08:47:26,000 --> 08:47:31,680
Unpopularity after launching a disastrous war with Iran and a struggling economy then their own appeal and with the Dems still seemingly divided on

10402
08:47:31,680 --> 08:47:37,040
A host of issues including Israel. Can they rally support from a base still disillusioned after their party's disastrous performance in 2024?

10403
08:47:37,040 --> 08:47:42,400
My guest tonight is a longtime confidant and former top advisor to Hillary Clinton and served in both the Obama and Biden administrations

10404
08:47:42,480 --> 08:47:45,760
Today, she's back leading an influential liberal establishment think tank to her critics

10405
08:47:45,760 --> 08:47:49,600
She embodies the Democratic elites failures and inside her whose politics paved the way for Trump to others

10406
08:47:49,600 --> 08:47:53,040
She's a centrist pragmatist trying to build a big tent and rebuild the party's credibility

10407
08:47:53,440 --> 08:47:57,840
I'm maydie hasan and tonight. I'll go head-to-head with near a tandem at washington DC's historic Georgetown University

10408
08:47:57,920 --> 08:48:02,480
I'll challenge her on whether she's part of an out-of-touch establishment whether supporting Israel is now a political liability for the democrats

10409
08:48:02,640 --> 08:48:10,560
And if her party's soul is now with the progressive left dude, methy loves doing these in person debates with a live audience in the coolest venues. It's so funny

10410
08:48:11,600 --> 08:48:14,880
I just I personally love it tonight. I'll also be joined by our panel of experts

10411
08:48:15,040 --> 08:48:21,600
Weed Galen a former republican strategist and the co-founder of the never-trunk Lincoln project daniel moody co-host of the democracyish podcast and editor of the d.a.m.

10412
08:48:21,600 --> 08:48:25,920
Digest on substat and ym sc egg bewale former chief of staff and advisor to the Biden White House press star

10413
08:48:37,440 --> 08:48:42,400
Meer attendant welcome to head-to-head let's start with them in terms the polls show your party the democrats are ahead well ahead

10414
08:48:42,640 --> 08:48:48,160
But that's down to the singular unpopularity of Donald trump is it not not any kind of real enthusiasm for the democratic party

10415
08:48:48,240 --> 08:48:51,600
One poll this year near a found that the only thing less popular than your party was iran

10416
08:48:52,000 --> 08:48:57,120
Um even ice was more popular than the democratic party according to that poll. Why do you think it is that even now the party is still so disliked?

10417
08:48:57,360 --> 08:49:01,600
Well, I guess I would disagree a little bit. I mean when we have evidence of how people are seeing themselves

10418
08:49:01,600 --> 08:49:05,600
So gallop just came out the other day with only that show that 50% of the public identifies and press 39 percent

10419
08:49:05,600 --> 08:49:08,240
That's the largest gap between the parties in since 2006

10420
08:49:08,240 --> 08:49:12,320
To people like to find is impressive. I believe that there's a library something else to think that we're seeing in special actions this year they have a huge

10421
08:49:12,320 --> 08:49:17,200
Trial and voters were never asked and I think the election is always bringing high propensity voters Democrats have always been dominant in that field though

10422
08:49:17,680 --> 08:49:21,760
Let's be real. You think that future of the country that's definitely that was a substantive critique. I think

10423
08:49:22,320 --> 08:49:24,320
Why we give we can take you know what the

10424
08:49:25,760 --> 08:49:28,880
We'll get we give them that one. That was a substantive critique of what she said. Okay

10425
08:49:29,600 --> 08:49:32,000
Kind of my point which is about posing Trump not any kind of enthusiasm for the party

10426
08:49:32,000 --> 08:49:35,760
You are saying that those are your words. I think there are candidates who are tracking people to come out and vote for them

10427
08:49:35,760 --> 08:49:40,400
Not just the party they're seeing a choice there when you have a when you have somebody win in a senate seat in like in Texas

10428
08:49:40,400 --> 08:49:43,280
And it's between 16 points because people are voting for that percent as well as against me

10429
08:49:50,800 --> 08:49:52,800
I mean

10430
08:50:00,000 --> 08:50:01,200
- Yeah, no DSA mentioned.

10431
08:50:01,200 --> 08:50:02,040
- I think that's right.

10432
08:50:02,040 --> 08:50:03,240
It's not really fundamentally fine by commercial leadership.

10433
08:50:03,240 --> 08:50:04,080
I think it's fine with your algorithm.

10434
08:50:04,080 --> 08:50:05,520
Any governors, for example, like Jacob's girl.

10435
08:50:05,520 --> 08:50:07,200
- Yeah, no DSA mentioned, no left mentioned.

10436
08:50:07,200 --> 08:50:09,480
- The newsroom, like a range of governors are also serious.

10437
08:50:09,480 --> 08:50:10,400
- Not mentioning the right.

10438
08:50:10,400 --> 08:50:11,500
- These are, you know what?

10439
08:50:11,500 --> 08:50:12,340
- Leaders of the party.

10440
08:50:12,340 --> 08:50:13,160
- I think governors.

10441
08:50:13,160 --> 08:50:13,980
- Those governors are very good at commercial leadership.

10442
08:50:13,980 --> 08:50:15,520
- Sure, but I also think there's a fair amount.

10443
08:50:15,520 --> 08:50:16,360
There's a fair amount.

10444
08:50:16,360 --> 08:50:17,180
Are we scared about?

10445
08:50:17,180 --> 08:50:18,020
What's wrong with doing this?

10446
08:50:18,020 --> 08:50:18,840
I'm frustrated that commercial leaders can't stop them.

10447
08:50:18,840 --> 08:50:19,680
And they don't have to go back.

10448
08:50:19,680 --> 08:50:20,520
- Number one.

10449
08:50:20,520 --> 08:50:21,360
Number one.

10450
08:50:21,360 --> 08:50:22,200
If I use you, they don't have to go back.

10451
08:50:22,200 --> 08:50:32,200
- I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree.

10452
08:50:32,200 --> 08:50:36,960
- The most nationally unpopular Democrats, like, even with

10453
08:50:36,960 --> 08:50:38,300
the Kim Jeffries, if you were to be like, all right,

10454
08:50:38,300 --> 08:50:39,300
the Kim Jeffries is a really tough job.

10455
08:50:39,300 --> 08:50:40,140
Like, you got to keep them.

10456
08:50:40,140 --> 08:50:41,280
Whoever is the speaker that I was going to be on popular,

10457
08:50:41,280 --> 08:50:42,120
no matter what, whatever.

10458
08:50:42,120 --> 08:50:44,760
But Chuck Schumer is well, like Chuck Schumer is gone.

10459
08:50:44,760 --> 08:50:45,600
Chuck Schumer is a dumb.

10460
08:50:45,600 --> 08:50:47,360
- Okay, good job.

10461
08:50:47,360 --> 08:50:48,840
He didn't start with anything mean.

10462
08:50:48,840 --> 08:50:51,640
Those are three things I think he said

10463
08:50:51,640 --> 08:50:52,640
without being mean.

10464
08:51:22,600 --> 08:51:26,880
- Pete Agnes just announced the firing squad execution

10465
08:51:26,880 --> 08:51:31,600
for the Fort Hood Islamist terrorist, Nadal Hassan,

10466
08:51:31,600 --> 08:51:33,640
will be public.

10467
08:51:33,640 --> 08:51:38,760
At the same time and place where Hassan carried dude,

10468
08:51:38,760 --> 08:51:41,660
we will make sure people are able to watch.

10469
08:51:43,520 --> 08:51:44,880
- Exclusion by firing squad.

10470
08:51:47,160 --> 08:51:48,000
- I can't.

10471
08:51:52,520 --> 08:51:55,520
(keyboard clicking)

10472
08:51:58,080 --> 08:51:59,480
- Twitch TV, by the way.

10473
08:51:59,480 --> 08:52:00,320
(laughing)

10474
08:52:00,320 --> 08:52:02,700
- So federal prosecutors, oh, I can't.

10475
08:52:02,700 --> 08:52:03,520
- Pro I can't.

10476
08:52:03,520 --> 08:52:04,360
- Shooters.

10477
08:52:04,360 --> 08:52:08,360
- Say that DNA evidence could prove that Ilhan Omar committed.

10478
08:52:08,360 --> 08:52:09,200
- What?

10479
08:52:09,200 --> 08:52:12,840
How many studios are shooting in 60 frames per second?

10480
08:52:12,840 --> 08:52:13,760
Who does this?

10481
08:52:14,760 --> 08:52:16,480
Does all of Fox shoot?

10482
08:52:16,480 --> 08:52:21,480
- So federal prosecutors say that DNA evidence could prove

10483
08:52:21,720 --> 08:52:25,240
that Ilhan Omar committed immigration fraud.

10484
08:52:25,240 --> 08:52:27,560
They also found Bill Clinton's DNA,

10485
08:52:27,560 --> 08:52:29,800
but that's just 'cause it's everywhere.

10486
08:52:31,320 --> 08:52:35,000
- Like remember, your president was fucking porn stars

10487
08:52:36,000 --> 08:52:38,680
when his wife was at home taking care of the newborn child.

10488
08:52:38,680 --> 08:52:39,520
Remember that.

10489
08:52:40,680 --> 08:52:42,480
Don't forget that, buddy.

10490
08:52:42,480 --> 08:52:43,680
(laughing)

10491
08:52:43,680 --> 08:52:45,160
Not a very high road there for you.

10492
08:52:46,520 --> 08:52:49,320
- Happy birthday to Kamala Harris who turned 62 today.

10493
08:52:49,320 --> 08:52:51,680
- Yeah, France invited her to a big party,

10494
08:52:51,680 --> 08:52:53,520
which was how they got her to the intervention.

10495
08:52:53,520 --> 08:52:56,040
(laughing)

10496
08:52:56,040 --> 08:52:57,360
Scientists say Earth's under--

10497
08:52:57,360 --> 08:52:58,400
- 'Cause drunk?

10498
08:52:58,400 --> 08:53:00,520
Or is that like a meme or?

10499
08:53:05,160 --> 08:53:06,320
Did I say she's drunk?

10500
08:53:11,120 --> 08:53:13,120
- Dictable rotation has prompted them

10501
08:53:13,120 --> 08:53:15,960
to eliminate the leap second,

10502
08:53:15,960 --> 08:53:17,800
which is the amount of time it took one man

10503
08:53:17,800 --> 08:53:19,600
to consummate his marriage.

10504
08:53:19,600 --> 08:53:21,840
(laughing)

10505
08:53:23,560 --> 08:53:26,800
Christian Alman poor is finally leaving CNN

10506
08:53:26,800 --> 08:53:29,840
after 43 years.

10507
08:53:29,840 --> 08:53:32,280
Wow, first barber star.

10508
08:53:32,280 --> 08:53:35,000
And now Christian Alman poor.

10509
08:53:35,000 --> 08:53:37,120
Who will Jeffrey Toobin jerk off to now?

10510
08:53:37,120 --> 08:53:39,360
(laughing)

10511
08:53:41,240 --> 08:53:44,280
New study shows that eating a daily serving of nuts

10512
08:53:44,280 --> 08:53:46,280
lowers your blood pressure by 20%.

10513
08:53:47,280 --> 08:53:49,520
(laughing)

10514
08:53:50,440 --> 08:53:52,320
I really can't think of a punchline.

10515
08:53:52,320 --> 08:53:53,840
- Is he the sky gay?

10516
08:53:53,840 --> 08:53:55,600
Fuck, what's the guy's name?

10517
08:53:55,600 --> 08:53:56,640
I'm guessing he's gay.

10518
08:54:02,720 --> 08:54:04,040
- Dunlinen, that's right, okay.

10519
08:54:04,040 --> 08:54:05,440
He's gay.

10520
08:54:05,440 --> 08:54:06,280
All right.

10521
08:54:06,280 --> 08:54:07,200
(laughing)

10522
08:54:07,200 --> 08:54:08,920
- A new study shows that children who grow up

10523
08:54:08,920 --> 08:54:12,200
with positive experiences have a lower risk of depression

10524
08:54:12,200 --> 08:54:13,760
when they get older.

10525
08:54:13,760 --> 08:54:15,960
And in earlier study shows that children who grow up

10526
08:54:15,960 --> 08:54:18,840
with negative experiences should just keep their trap shut.

10527
08:54:18,840 --> 08:54:21,320
(laughing)

10528
08:54:21,320 --> 08:54:23,080
Miley Cyrus told the crowd at her concert

10529
08:54:23,080 --> 08:54:26,840
that Dolly Parton communicated with her from the dead.

10530
08:54:26,840 --> 08:54:29,640
Yeah, apparently she said, "Tell Mitch I'll see him on Friday."

10531
08:54:29,640 --> 08:54:31,880
(laughing)

10532
08:54:33,760 --> 08:54:36,560
To get rid of the growing rodent population in New York City,

10533
08:54:36,560 --> 08:54:40,760
Mayor Mamtani announced plans to deploy a rat killing machine.

10534
08:54:40,760 --> 08:54:42,960
Yeah, they're calling it the COVID vaccine.

10535
08:54:42,960 --> 08:54:45,220
(laughing)

10536
08:54:45,220 --> 08:54:46,760
(laughing)

10537
08:54:46,760 --> 08:54:50,100
Finally, Selena Gomez told fans that vaping nicotine

10538
08:54:50,100 --> 08:54:52,720
has permanently changed her voice,

10539
08:54:52,720 --> 08:54:54,200
which has caused millions of people

10540
08:54:54,200 --> 08:54:56,440
to encourage Jessica Tarlov to vape.

10541
08:54:56,440 --> 08:54:58,760
(laughing)

10542
08:54:58,760 --> 08:54:59,600
- Nice.

10543
08:55:00,000 --> 08:55:01,160
(audience laughs)

10544
08:55:01,160 --> 08:55:02,360
- That was cute.

10545
08:55:02,360 --> 08:55:04,440
All right, so last week, Democrat Senator Eliza Slotkin

10546
08:55:04,440 --> 08:55:05,800
revealed a grand plan.

10547
08:55:05,800 --> 08:55:08,440
Get Dems in power, then prosecute Trump staffers,

10548
08:55:08,440 --> 08:55:10,240
so in the future everyone will be too scared

10549
08:55:10,240 --> 08:55:11,480
to ever work for him again.

10550
08:55:11,480 --> 08:55:13,000
Take a listen.

10551
08:55:13,000 --> 08:55:15,000
- I want to look at these signature cases

10552
08:55:15,000 --> 08:55:16,840
and not just focus on the president,

10553
08:55:16,840 --> 08:55:18,040
but on the people who enabled him.

10554
08:55:18,040 --> 08:55:20,680
I want young people coming out of school to say,

10555
08:55:20,680 --> 08:55:22,120
"Should I go work for the Trump administration?"

10556
08:55:22,120 --> 08:55:22,960
Like, that sounds fun.

10557
08:55:22,960 --> 08:55:23,920
I might get an opportunity.

10558
08:55:23,920 --> 08:55:25,520
I want them to be like, Lord.

10559
08:55:25,520 --> 08:55:26,480
- Maybe I shouldn't be involved

10560
08:55:26,480 --> 08:55:29,320
in a whole bunch of illegal shit, maybe.

10561
08:55:30,080 --> 08:55:31,600
Maybe we shouldn't be involved in

10562
08:55:31,600 --> 08:55:33,940
doing a bunch of crimes, actually, maybe.

10563
08:55:35,840 --> 08:55:38,560
- That might be buying myself a ton of problems

10564
08:55:38,560 --> 08:55:39,400
that I don't want,

10565
08:55:39,400 --> 08:55:41,960
and so let me avoid participating in that.

10566
08:55:41,960 --> 08:55:44,120
I want that deterrence message sent.

10567
08:55:44,120 --> 08:55:44,960
- I want that.

10568
08:55:44,960 --> 08:55:47,080
- Now, let's pretend that everything she was talking about

10569
08:55:47,080 --> 08:55:48,960
was just political and not to do

10570
08:55:48,960 --> 08:55:50,600
with all the crimes and corruption, okay?

10571
08:55:50,600 --> 08:55:51,440
Let's go.

10572
08:55:51,440 --> 08:55:52,280
- That message sent.

10573
08:55:52,280 --> 08:55:55,080
Who the after you think you are, John Gotti?

10574
08:55:55,080 --> 08:55:56,960
Compare a phrase ahead of Stalin's secret police.

10575
08:55:56,960 --> 08:55:59,320
Show her the red hat and she'll find a crime.

10576
08:55:59,320 --> 08:56:00,160
Now, her plan is simple.

10577
08:56:00,160 --> 08:56:01,960
Make the consequences of being conservative,

10578
08:56:01,960 --> 08:56:02,880
scarier than a day with Andy.

10579
08:56:02,880 --> 08:56:04,080
- Yes, all political.

10580
08:56:04,080 --> 08:56:04,920
(audience laughs)

10581
08:56:04,920 --> 08:56:05,760
Yes, Trump.

10582
08:56:05,760 --> 08:56:06,840
- So that no one would dare consider it.

10583
08:56:06,840 --> 08:56:08,040
But there's a flip side to this,

10584
08:56:08,040 --> 08:56:10,200
meaning if working for Trump means lawyers,

10585
08:56:10,200 --> 08:56:12,360
legal fees, and years of pains in your ass,

10586
08:56:12,360 --> 08:56:13,880
then you should work for Democrats

10587
08:56:13,880 --> 08:56:15,560
and you'll avoid all those problems.

10588
08:56:15,560 --> 08:56:17,920
You are free to be a Democrat or suffer.

10589
08:56:17,920 --> 08:56:19,200
It's just like anyone in Hollywood.

10590
08:56:19,200 --> 08:56:21,560
- Notice the juxtaposition that I was funny, right?

10591
08:56:21,560 --> 08:56:22,800
Are you gonna work for Trump?

10592
08:56:22,800 --> 08:56:25,600
Are you gonna work for Democrats?

10593
08:56:25,600 --> 08:56:28,920
'Cause Trump is literally your entire fucking party.

10594
08:56:28,920 --> 08:56:31,200
Again, I feel like everything in America

10595
08:56:31,200 --> 08:56:32,640
is just political cuckoldry now.

10596
08:56:32,640 --> 08:56:33,880
It's insane.

10597
08:56:33,880 --> 08:56:35,400
- But we're for Trump and you could go to prison

10598
08:56:35,400 --> 08:56:37,840
where you'll spend your entire life drinking toilet wine

10599
08:56:37,840 --> 08:56:41,240
passing around the same 1987 copy of AfroHores.

10600
08:56:41,240 --> 08:56:43,120
(audience laughs)

10601
08:56:43,120 --> 08:56:43,960
So join us instead.

10602
08:56:43,960 --> 08:56:45,520
Donate to act blue and dye your hair purple.

10603
08:56:45,520 --> 08:56:46,840
We'll get along just fine.

10604
08:56:46,840 --> 08:56:49,120
So she doesn't just want to prosecute the right.

10605
08:56:49,120 --> 08:56:51,600
She's also rewarding obedience to her party.

10606
08:56:51,600 --> 08:56:52,600
But this is far from new.

10607
08:56:52,600 --> 08:56:53,920
It's always been the plan.

10608
08:56:53,920 --> 08:56:55,840
Make disagreement so expensive,

10609
08:56:55,840 --> 08:56:58,480
so painful that people are scared into silence.

10610
08:56:58,480 --> 08:56:59,680
Speaking of your mind threatens your job,

10611
08:56:59,680 --> 08:57:00,720
refutation in your family.

10612
08:57:00,720 --> 08:57:02,200
Maybe pretending to be a liberal

10613
08:57:02,200 --> 08:57:04,480
is the price you pay to be safe.

10614
08:57:04,480 --> 08:57:05,480
So people keep their mouths shut

10615
08:57:05,480 --> 08:57:08,520
and nod along to garbage to fund the police, trans kids.

10616
08:57:08,520 --> 08:57:09,660
Taylor Swift is hot.

10617
08:57:09,660 --> 08:57:11,200
(audience laughs)

10618
08:57:11,200 --> 08:57:12,040
Look at crime.

10619
08:57:12,040 --> 08:57:13,560
Activists pushed to fund the police in bail reform

10620
08:57:13,560 --> 08:57:15,160
and repeat offenders were let back onto the streets

10621
08:57:15,160 --> 08:57:16,000
and crime exploded.

10622
08:57:16,000 --> 08:57:16,840
But if you spoke up and said,

10623
08:57:16,840 --> 08:57:18,120
"You know cops are a necessity,"

10624
08:57:18,120 --> 08:57:20,080
or "We can't just let violent felons out."

10625
08:57:20,080 --> 08:57:21,960
Reputational penalties were handed out.

10626
08:57:21,960 --> 08:57:24,760
You were branded racist for not condemning the justice system

10627
08:57:24,760 --> 08:57:27,080
or racist for not kneeling before BLM.

10628
08:57:27,080 --> 08:57:28,880
So people stayed quiet creating a fall.

10629
08:57:28,880 --> 08:57:31,080
- How long ago, we're just gonna bring these up

10630
08:57:31,080 --> 08:57:31,920
forever, I guess, okay?

10631
08:57:31,920 --> 08:57:35,200
- All consensus that's further left than real public opinion,

10632
08:57:35,200 --> 08:57:37,000
which keeps the bad ideas alive longer,

10633
08:57:37,000 --> 08:57:39,440
prevents any correction and harms will accumulate.

10634
08:57:39,440 --> 08:57:41,160
Felons go unpunished, more people die.

10635
08:57:41,160 --> 08:57:43,000
Then there's trans kids were given puberty blockers

10636
08:57:43,000 --> 08:57:43,840
and sex changes.

10637
08:57:43,840 --> 08:57:46,280
- It's like 2016, bro.

10638
08:57:46,280 --> 08:57:48,760
2016, we will forever live there.

10639
08:57:48,760 --> 08:57:50,520
The conservatives, it just gotta be so nice.

10640
08:57:50,520 --> 08:57:51,360
It's like the Matrix, right?

10641
08:57:51,360 --> 08:57:52,440
Didn't they have like five iterations

10642
08:57:52,440 --> 08:57:53,600
of the Matrix before Neo got there?

10643
08:57:53,600 --> 08:57:55,440
They just keep remaking the same thing

10644
08:57:55,440 --> 08:57:57,200
over and over and over and over again?

10645
08:57:58,200 --> 08:57:59,520
- Quite long lasting negative effects

10646
08:57:59,520 --> 08:58:01,040
like having your dong cut off.

10647
08:58:01,880 --> 08:58:03,520
That's the medical term.

10648
08:58:03,520 --> 08:58:05,120
Biological men dominated women's sports,

10649
08:58:05,120 --> 08:58:07,360
creeps walked freely into their locker rooms.

10650
08:58:07,360 --> 08:58:08,600
As opposed to crawling through the window,

10651
08:58:08,600 --> 08:58:10,160
the way I used to.

10652
08:58:10,160 --> 08:58:11,880
But speak the truth and the pro-trans mob,

10653
08:58:11,880 --> 08:58:14,320
then had to make the truth expensive to you.

10654
08:58:14,320 --> 08:58:16,120
If you asked, "Hey, why does the assistant secretary

10655
08:58:16,120 --> 08:58:18,200
"for health look like John Madden in a wig?"

10656
08:58:18,200 --> 08:58:20,880
(audience laughing)

10657
08:58:20,880 --> 08:58:23,160
The cost to you was social ostracism.

10658
08:58:23,160 --> 08:58:25,920
The label transphobia created to designate your sin.

10659
08:58:25,920 --> 08:58:26,760
So you hid your true beliefs,

10660
08:58:26,760 --> 08:58:29,440
which allowed insane practices that harm kids to proceed.

10661
08:58:29,440 --> 08:58:31,480
Then of course, the border, millions of illegals allowed in,

10662
08:58:31,480 --> 08:58:33,640
bringing in fentanyl, crime, straining the schools,

10663
08:58:33,640 --> 08:58:34,720
housing and programs.

10664
08:58:34,720 --> 08:58:36,920
But if you wanted to secure the border for safety concern,

10665
08:58:36,920 --> 08:58:39,480
the left created a personal cost for that dissent.

10666
08:58:39,480 --> 08:58:41,280
They said you lack compassion and hated brown people.

10667
08:58:41,280 --> 08:58:43,160
You were accused of whipping migrants.

10668
08:58:43,160 --> 08:58:44,040
So what's the solution?

10669
08:58:44,040 --> 08:58:44,880
Good question.

10670
08:58:44,880 --> 08:58:46,120
And the answer will always be the same.

10671
08:58:46,120 --> 08:58:47,480
You have to call their bluff.

10672
08:58:47,480 --> 08:58:49,960
First tell yourself that what they think of you,

10673
08:58:49,960 --> 08:58:51,440
it's none of your business.

10674
08:58:51,440 --> 08:58:53,720
Then share the risk because it's harder for Slotkin

10675
08:58:53,720 --> 08:58:56,680
to scare a group of people than just one ostracized dude.

10676
08:58:56,680 --> 08:58:58,560
Left-wing mobs only attack when they have numbers.

10677
08:58:58,560 --> 08:58:59,800
Have you noticed that?

10678
08:58:59,800 --> 08:59:01,880
So yeah, speaking up might cause temporary pain,

10679
08:59:01,880 --> 08:59:03,360
but just imagine what kind of country we live in

10680
08:59:03,360 --> 08:59:04,920
if no one ever spoke up.

10681
08:59:04,920 --> 08:59:07,000
Well, we'd all be speaking King's English right now,

10682
08:59:07,000 --> 08:59:08,320
but mostly Arabic.

10683
08:59:08,320 --> 08:59:09,160
(audience applauding)

10684
08:59:09,160 --> 08:59:10,400
- What's up? - What's up?

10685
08:59:10,400 --> 08:59:11,440
- Tonight. - Yeah!

10686
08:59:13,640 --> 08:59:16,240
- She's made more people sweat than D-Y checkpoints.

10687
08:59:16,240 --> 08:59:17,560
- Post of the "Keep it in Real" podcast,

10688
08:59:17,560 --> 08:59:18,400
Jillian Michael.

10689
08:59:18,400 --> 08:59:20,600
(audience applauding)

10690
08:59:20,600 --> 08:59:23,320
He lives under bridges and it boxes from bridges.

10691
08:59:23,320 --> 08:59:25,680
Comedian knows of the lot this party podcast like a lot that.

10692
08:59:25,680 --> 08:59:27,240
(audience applauding)

10693
08:59:27,240 --> 08:59:29,760
Well, even or not, she was once a traffic reporter

10694
08:59:29,760 --> 08:59:30,840
and there were no survivors.

10695
08:59:30,840 --> 08:59:31,840
You were kind of specifying author of boxes.

10696
08:59:31,840 --> 08:59:32,680
Good trip to the cat tip.

10697
08:59:32,680 --> 08:59:34,560
(audience applauding)

10698
08:59:34,560 --> 08:59:37,360
And he's made more old ladies holler than arthritis.

10699
08:59:37,360 --> 08:59:38,200
Former NWA World Champion,

10700
08:59:38,200 --> 08:59:39,760
also the planet's our podcast, Iris.

10701
08:59:39,760 --> 08:59:42,480
(audience applauding)

10702
08:59:42,480 --> 08:59:43,320
- All right.

10703
08:59:43,320 --> 08:59:44,160
- Jillian, could you,

10704
08:59:44,160 --> 08:59:45,960
you have a good experience with this topic

10705
08:59:45,960 --> 08:59:47,920
in the sense that you kind of lived in both worlds, right?

10706
08:59:47,920 --> 08:59:48,760
- Yeah.

10707
08:59:48,760 --> 08:59:50,280
- So let's say where you were in a liberal circle,

10708
08:59:50,280 --> 08:59:53,240
you were not threatened with any ostracism from conservatives.

10709
08:59:53,240 --> 08:59:54,080
- No, never.

10710
08:59:54,080 --> 08:59:57,520
- But then you move, or let's say the party self moves from you,

10711
08:59:57,520 --> 09:00:00,280
did you experience social isolation or ostracism?

10712
09:00:00,000 --> 09:00:02,840
system as you started speaking your mind and doing it like of course they call

10713
09:00:02,840 --> 09:00:06,720
for black list they want to cancel to get the death threats but what's most

10714
09:00:06,720 --> 09:00:09,000
interesting about this story and you bring up the fact that i was previously

10715
09:00:09,000 --> 09:00:10,040
on the left

10716
09:00:10,040 --> 09:00:13,620
is that my wife is concerned she's always been you have a wife

10717
09:00:13,620 --> 09:00:15,520
let's go out by those roses

10718
09:00:15,520 --> 09:00:17,720
hahaha wait don't you have a wife

10719
09:00:17,720 --> 09:00:18,920
all that's right

10720
09:00:18,920 --> 09:00:21,680
why did i buy those roses remember donald trump right now is literally

10721
09:00:21,680 --> 09:00:23,960
prosecuting political opponents

10722
09:00:23,960 --> 09:00:28,000
remember donald trump and i was trying to de-naturalize and deport l_n_o_ mark

10723
09:00:28,000 --> 09:00:30,640
auger spend by the way remember life look

10724
09:00:30,640 --> 09:00:35,520
like these guys are trapped in twenty sixteen hello

10725
09:00:35,520 --> 09:00:38,200
i'm sorry so you and your wife you're like a democrat no she's concerned

10726
09:00:38,200 --> 09:00:40,520
oh really and so back in twenty twenty

10727
09:00:40,520 --> 09:00:43,160
we fight about which party was tolerant constantly

10728
09:00:43,160 --> 09:00:44,880
and that's when a_o_c_

10729
09:00:44,880 --> 09:00:46,640
took it upon herself to start a trump

10730
09:00:46,640 --> 09:00:49,760
black list and i'll never forget it was officially the moment

10731
09:00:49,760 --> 09:00:53,200
that i changed sides and a_o_c_ said anybody who works for this administration

10732
09:00:53,200 --> 09:00:54,740
we're going to keep your name we're going to put you on a list

10733
09:00:54,740 --> 09:00:56,800
we're going to publicly excommunicate you and i thought

10734
09:00:56,800 --> 09:00:58,740
this is true this truly is

10735
09:00:58,740 --> 09:01:00,680
fascistic and a_o_c_

10736
09:01:00,680 --> 09:01:02,180
ones congressmen

10737
09:01:02,180 --> 09:01:03,080
a_o_c_

10738
09:01:03,080 --> 09:01:06,560
you're so scared of just that one person she speaks to the entire

10739
09:01:06,560 --> 09:01:07,920
fucking party

10740
09:01:07,920 --> 09:01:10,720
larryan and that was the day that i made a decision to know it was a slawkin is

10741
09:01:10,720 --> 09:01:11,880
doing it but she's not just doing it

10742
09:01:11,880 --> 09:01:12,760
to adults

10743
09:01:12,760 --> 09:01:14,160
she's doing it to kids

10744
09:01:14,160 --> 09:01:16,880
and kids

10745
09:01:16,880 --> 09:01:20,360
and by kids we mean she was about people graduating college go to work for

10746
09:01:20,360 --> 09:01:23,280
the administration kid the twenty-year-old children

10747
09:01:23,280 --> 09:01:25,480
mother of two conservative children that is where

10748
09:01:25,480 --> 09:01:28,000
you have officially crossed the line and i would also

10749
09:01:28,000 --> 09:01:29,560
like a point out

10750
09:01:29,560 --> 09:01:30,560
this is a woman

10751
09:01:30,560 --> 09:01:32,760
that is actively campaigning with a man

10752
09:01:32,760 --> 09:01:34,200
who wrote a letter

10753
09:01:34,200 --> 09:01:37,600
to egypt's former muslim brotherhood president calling upon him to swiftly

10754
09:01:37,600 --> 09:01:38,120
purred

10755
09:01:38,120 --> 09:01:39,080
the police

10756
09:01:39,080 --> 09:01:40,360
in the media

10757
09:01:40,360 --> 09:01:44,120
so i don't think i could be more offended or upset about this to be honest

10758
09:01:44,120 --> 09:01:48,160
be sure to like and subscribe for all

10759
09:01:48,160 --> 09:01:52,440
the flow outrage from conservatives is just so fucking funny there's such

10760
09:01:52,440 --> 09:01:57,720
that like as they're so depraved they must know that they're like demons

10761
09:01:57,720 --> 09:02:00,880
their virtue signaling right

10762
09:02:00,880 --> 09:02:05,520
they must know this

10763
09:02:05,520 --> 09:02:12,520
so we have uh...

10764
09:02:13,440 --> 09:02:15,000
right

10765
09:02:15,000 --> 09:02:22,000
i got a chocolate

10766
09:02:45,000 --> 09:02:52,000
the

10767
09:02:55,640 --> 09:02:57,360
uh... this girl here

10768
09:02:57,360 --> 09:02:58,480
or woman

10769
09:02:58,480 --> 09:03:01,720
she made

10770
09:03:01,720 --> 09:03:06,720
uh...

10771
09:03:06,720 --> 09:03:12,280
a comment and this got really really popular got eight point one million views

10772
09:03:12,280 --> 09:03:17,040
the twenty-four second clip from what i'm guessing is at least at thirty minute

10773
09:03:17,040 --> 09:03:18,920
conversation but okay

10774
09:03:18,920 --> 09:03:22,760
this is a senator from michigan or less a slot can hopes that planned

10775
09:03:22,760 --> 09:03:26,000
persecutions of republican leaders will scare young conservatives into getting

10776
09:03:26,000 --> 09:03:28,360
uh... from getting involved in politics

10777
09:03:28,360 --> 09:03:30,840
to take a look at this

10778
09:03:30,840 --> 09:03:33,520
that's what i'm saying i want to look at the signature cases

10779
09:03:33,520 --> 09:03:37,320
and not just focus on the president but on the people who enabled him i want

10780
09:03:37,320 --> 09:03:39,280
young people coming out of school to say

10781
09:03:39,280 --> 09:03:41,560
should i go work for the trump administration like that sounds fine i might

10782
09:03:41,560 --> 09:03:44,500
let you mean when she says the signature cases on which you could be referring

10783
09:03:44,500 --> 09:03:45,320
to their

10784
09:03:45,320 --> 09:03:48,560
signature cases

10785
09:03:48,560 --> 09:03:49,640
one of those like

10786
09:03:49,640 --> 09:03:51,640
what is criminal behavior

10787
09:03:51,640 --> 09:03:56,640
that she's representing

10788
09:04:10,040 --> 09:04:17,040
hmm

10789
09:04:22,920 --> 09:04:26,880
an opportunity i want them to be like lord that might be buying myself

10790
09:04:26,880 --> 09:04:31,280
a ton of problems that i don't want and so let me avoid participating in that

10791
09:04:31,280 --> 09:04:34,040
i want that deterrence message so that's what i'm saying

10792
09:04:34,040 --> 09:04:38,040
this is what these people do uh... and the only level that you can operate to

10793
09:04:38,040 --> 09:04:45,040
counteract

10794
09:05:00,000 --> 09:05:08,000
Good evening, everyone, and welcome.

10795
09:05:08,000 --> 09:05:10,000
Hi, everyone.

10796
09:05:18,000 --> 09:05:22,000
Hey, bud, you're looking for the full video?

10797
09:05:22,000 --> 09:05:23,000
Yep.

10798
09:05:23,000 --> 09:05:24,000
I've also thought I couldn't talk.

10799
09:05:24,000 --> 09:05:25,000
Yeah, but I've got it.

10800
09:05:25,000 --> 09:05:29,000
I was like, you're a thing is super fucking lag right now.

10801
09:05:29,000 --> 09:05:31,000
Wait, my microphone?

10802
09:05:31,000 --> 09:05:33,000
Oh, now it works.

10803
09:05:33,000 --> 09:05:35,000
Oh, okay, good.

10804
09:05:35,000 --> 09:05:41,000
If you can find Asmungold's tweet, put it into Claude and ask it to find you the full video.

10805
09:05:41,000 --> 09:05:43,000
I already got it.

10806
09:05:43,000 --> 09:05:44,000
I'm not that clogged.

10807
09:05:44,000 --> 09:05:45,000
Goddamn it.

10808
09:05:45,000 --> 09:05:46,000
In healthcare.

10809
09:05:46,000 --> 09:05:51,000
Number two, we do have to have accountability for the unbelievable corruption that we are living under right now.

10810
09:05:51,000 --> 09:05:53,000
But you can't just make that your whole personality, right?

10811
09:05:53,000 --> 09:05:58,000
So you have to pick signature cases and you have to go after people and projects that are just super egregious.

10812
09:05:58,000 --> 09:06:01,000
So everyone knows the East Wing of the White House, right?

10813
09:06:01,000 --> 09:06:05,000
And people feel that in a way that's different from a nameless contract at the Pentagon or whatever.

10814
09:06:05,000 --> 09:06:09,000
So you need to pick those signature cases and go hard on accountability, not just Trump, right?

10815
09:06:09,000 --> 09:06:13,000
Because of course there will be moments of like, let's go after Trump himself as someone who voted to impeach him twice.

10816
09:06:13,000 --> 09:06:14,000
Like, he's still there, right?

10817
09:06:14,000 --> 09:06:19,000
But the people around Donald Trump who are doing his bidding and enabling this have no such immunity.

10818
09:06:19,000 --> 09:06:20,000
They have no immunity the way the president does.

10819
09:06:20,000 --> 09:06:24,000
And to me, he couldn't do any of this stuff without all those people saluting and supporting it.

10820
09:06:24,000 --> 09:06:26,000
So you go after the people who did his bidding.

10821
09:06:26,000 --> 09:06:30,000
And then third, the one that I think you're speaking to is we have to Trump proof the government going forward

10822
09:06:30,000 --> 09:06:34,000
so that no president of any party can ever abuse the system the way he did.

10823
09:06:34,000 --> 09:06:38,000
Because we figured out under Trump that a lot of the stuff that we thought were laws were actually just norms,

10824
09:06:38,000 --> 09:06:40,000
standards, habits, expectations, good.

10825
09:06:43,000 --> 09:06:45,000
Fuck, I don't think I was paying attention.

10826
09:06:45,000 --> 09:06:49,000
Because it sounded like there was a whole bunch more shit than she said there.

10827
09:06:49,000 --> 09:06:51,000
I just didn't hear it here.

10828
09:06:55,000 --> 09:06:56,000
I must not have been listening.

10829
09:06:56,000 --> 09:06:57,000
Hold on.

10830
09:06:57,000 --> 09:06:59,000
So we have this girl here or woman.

10831
09:06:59,000 --> 09:07:02,000
She made a comment and this got really, really popular.

10832
09:07:02,000 --> 09:07:04,000
It got 8.1 million views.

10833
09:07:04,000 --> 09:07:09,000
This is a senator from Michigan, Alyssa Slotkin hopes that planned persecutions of Republican leaders

10834
09:07:09,000 --> 09:07:13,000
will scare young conservatives into getting from getting involved in politics.

10835
09:07:13,000 --> 09:07:14,000
So take a look at this.

10836
09:07:16,000 --> 09:07:17,000
So that's what I'm saying.

10837
09:07:17,000 --> 09:07:22,000
I want to look at these signature cases and not just focus on the president but on the people who enabled him.

10838
09:07:22,000 --> 09:07:24,000
I want young people coming out of school to say.

10839
09:07:24,000 --> 09:07:25,000
Oh, actually.

10840
09:07:28,000 --> 09:07:31,000
Rather than the first comment, I might have been cut from a later one.

10841
09:07:40,000 --> 09:07:42,000
It's like, if you don't get a picture down, it's an incoming Democrat again.

10842
09:07:42,000 --> 09:07:43,000
What?

10843
09:07:43,000 --> 09:07:49,000
I bet if Asvin Gold heard a Republican saying this, he'd be like, "Oh my God, that's so fucking big."

10844
09:07:49,000 --> 09:07:51,000
Yes, we got him prison all these people.

10845
09:07:51,000 --> 09:07:53,000
Yeah, but he's way past our, he'll just say that.

10846
09:07:53,000 --> 09:07:54,000
He would literally say that.

10847
09:07:54,000 --> 09:07:55,000
He would agree with you.

10848
09:07:55,000 --> 09:07:56,000
He would just say, "Yeah, of course.

10849
09:07:56,000 --> 09:07:57,000
When we're holding it to it, it is based."

10850
09:07:57,000 --> 09:07:58,000
Yeah, he would just say that 100%.

10851
09:07:58,000 --> 09:08:00,000
I could send it like a shoot.

10852
09:08:00,000 --> 09:08:01,000
I can't.

10853
09:08:01,000 --> 09:08:02,000
That's where they're at.

10854
09:08:02,000 --> 09:08:03,000
Is he real?

10855
09:08:03,000 --> 09:08:04,000
They're real.

10856
09:08:04,000 --> 09:08:05,000
It's the average MAGA.

10857
09:08:05,000 --> 09:08:06,000
Yeah.

10858
09:08:06,000 --> 09:08:12,000
Focus of this incoming, of a potentially incoming Democratic House considering the high bar that was set for that

10859
09:08:12,000 --> 09:08:15,000
in the first time, it feels like if you don't get impeached for January 6, what does the word mean?

10860
09:08:15,000 --> 09:08:19,000
Yeah, I will say, because I still see him on the floor, if Mitch McConnell had done the right thing,

10861
09:08:19,000 --> 09:08:21,000
then Donald Trump would have been impeached after January 6, and he did not.

10862
09:08:21,000 --> 09:08:26,000
And he's legacy, along with his health issues, will be how he is remembered and should be.

10863
09:08:26,000 --> 09:08:29,000
But I am into effectiveness.

10864
09:08:29,000 --> 09:08:33,000
And if we have the House but not the Senate, you know, I don't have a ton of faith that my Republican colleagues

10865
09:08:33,000 --> 09:08:34,000
are going to have any more strength.

10866
09:08:34,000 --> 09:08:35,000
So that's what I'm saying.

10867
09:08:35,000 --> 09:08:39,000
I want to look at these signature cases and not just focus on the president, but on the people who enabled him.

10868
09:08:39,000 --> 09:08:42,000
I want young people coming out of school to say, "Should I go work for the Trump administration?"

10869
09:08:42,000 --> 09:08:43,000
Like, that sounds fun.

10870
09:08:43,000 --> 09:08:44,000
I might get an opportunity.

10871
09:08:44,000 --> 09:08:48,000
I want them to be like, "Lord, that might be buying myself a ton of problems that I don't want."

10872
09:08:48,000 --> 09:08:50,000
And so let me avoid participating in that.

10873
09:08:50,000 --> 09:08:51,000
That deterrence message says.

10874
09:08:51,000 --> 09:08:56,000
You can make it a pariah politically socially, maybe even legally, even if that doesn't lead to the kind of high bar of impeachment.

10875
09:08:56,000 --> 09:08:58,000
I wanted to also ask, no more on the topic, somewhat of national security.

10876
09:08:58,000 --> 09:09:01,000
I'm going to ask about immigration in the early days of Trump's second term.

10877
09:09:01,000 --> 09:09:02,000
Okay.

10878
09:09:02,000 --> 09:09:04,000
Hey, should I go work for the Trump administration?

10879
09:09:04,000 --> 09:09:07,000
I also like how he said like she made a comment.

10880
09:09:07,000 --> 09:09:13,000
Like she was like, "Can we go to the school and can we film like this whole thing so that I can just like make like a 23 second comment for Twitter?"

10881
09:09:13,000 --> 09:09:16,000
And I like how we're not actually looking at the original thing she said.

10882
09:09:16,000 --> 09:09:19,000
This was like a follow-up question after the whole speech, but you know, that's cool.

10883
09:09:19,000 --> 09:09:20,000
Administration like that sounds fun.

10884
09:09:20,000 --> 09:09:21,000
I might get an opportunity.

10885
09:09:21,000 --> 09:09:26,000
I want them to be like, "Lord, that might be buying myself a ton of problems that I don't want."

10886
09:09:26,000 --> 09:09:28,000
And so let me avoid participating in that.

10887
09:09:28,000 --> 09:09:30,000
I want that deterrence message.

10888
09:09:30,000 --> 09:09:31,000
So that's what I'm saying.

10889
09:09:31,000 --> 09:09:33,000
This is what these people do.

10890
09:09:33,000 --> 09:09:40,000
And the only level that you can operate to counteract them is to do the exact same thing back to them, but a thousand times worse.

10891
09:09:40,000 --> 09:09:41,000
There it is.

10892
09:09:41,000 --> 09:09:44,000
That's the only way that you can get these people and bring them to heal.

10893
09:09:44,000 --> 09:09:47,000
That's the only way that you can get them to stop doing this.

10894
09:09:47,000 --> 09:09:54,000
Anything that's short of that will give them room to recover and to regroup and then to effectively repeat what they were trying to do.

10895
09:09:54,000 --> 09:09:56,000
You have to go scorched earth on these people.

10896
09:09:56,000 --> 09:09:57,000
You do.

10897
09:09:57,000 --> 09:10:00,000
And a lot of Republicans are unwilling to do that.

10898
09:10:00,000 --> 09:10:02,920
That's the reason why I think they lose a lot of these battles.

10899
09:10:02,920 --> 09:10:04,100
Will they ever gain empathy?

10900
09:10:04,100 --> 09:10:05,300
It doesn't matter what they're going to get.

10901
09:10:05,300 --> 09:10:08,040
Like why are you, you are looking at these people

10902
09:10:08,040 --> 09:10:09,080
as if they are people.

10903
09:10:09,080 --> 09:10:11,040
These people don't see you as a person.

10904
09:10:11,040 --> 09:10:13,800
They see you as a demon, an evil person.

10905
09:10:13,800 --> 09:10:16,560
Some sort of Nazi, some other level of dehumanization.

10906
09:10:16,560 --> 09:10:17,400
They don't see us as people?

10907
09:10:17,400 --> 09:10:18,240
No, they don't.

10908
09:10:18,240 --> 09:10:19,680
So anyway, I was a Senate staffer.

10909
09:10:19,680 --> 09:10:20,500
I couldn't imagine.

10910
09:10:20,500 --> 09:10:21,340
- That is for about a third person.

10911
09:10:21,340 --> 09:10:23,040
- I was looking, Patner had a Nazi tattoo

10912
09:10:23,040 --> 09:10:24,080
and Alissa was fine.

10913
09:10:24,080 --> 09:10:26,200
Pelotola called her staffers the F word

10914
09:10:26,200 --> 09:10:27,920
and the N word in anger.

10915
09:10:27,920 --> 09:10:28,760
And Alissa is fine.

10916
09:10:28,760 --> 09:10:30,880
Al Syed won't disavow the Muslim Brotherhood.

10917
09:10:30,880 --> 09:10:32,080
And Alissa is fine.

10918
09:10:32,080 --> 09:10:33,240
But if you have an R next to your name,

10919
09:10:33,240 --> 09:10:34,880
she will use the government to come after you.

10920
09:10:34,880 --> 09:10:37,160
- Exactly, exactly.

10921
09:10:37,160 --> 09:10:39,480
That's why these people win.

10922
09:10:39,480 --> 09:10:41,560
That's exactly why these people win.

10923
09:10:41,560 --> 09:10:45,320
It's because they are willing to do anything that it takes.

10924
09:10:45,320 --> 09:10:47,480
If you are not willing to do anything that it takes,

10925
09:10:47,480 --> 09:10:48,360
they will beat you.

10926
09:10:49,360 --> 09:10:50,440
That's the bottom line.

10927
09:10:50,440 --> 09:10:53,280
- He does know right now we're in a Republican Senate,

10928
09:10:53,280 --> 09:10:55,240
Republican Supreme Court, Republican House

10929
09:10:55,240 --> 09:10:56,800
and Republican presidency, right?

10930
09:10:56,800 --> 09:10:59,160
- He's aware of that, right?

10931
09:10:59,160 --> 09:11:00,760
- Slothkin's CIA.

10932
09:11:00,760 --> 09:11:01,600
- No, we're being oppressed.

10933
09:11:01,600 --> 09:11:04,040
- Well, I think that proves my point even more, doesn't it?

10934
09:11:04,040 --> 09:11:05,440
Not the Nazi, not the racist homophobe,

10935
09:11:05,440 --> 09:11:06,920
not the Muslim terrorist, the Republican.

10936
09:11:06,920 --> 09:11:08,640
That's Aloshi's sunken just two years on the job.

10937
09:11:08,640 --> 09:11:10,720
She's already becoming Gollum as evil consumes her.

10938
09:11:10,720 --> 09:11:13,360
Not the Nazi, not the racist homophobe, not the Muslim

10939
09:11:13,360 --> 09:11:14,200
terrorist is the unique one.

10940
09:11:14,200 --> 09:11:15,680
For the other two, you're just having like half a manger

10941
09:11:15,680 --> 09:11:16,520
and that one, okay.

10942
09:11:16,520 --> 09:11:20,720
No, this isn't, that's, this is true and it's not true, right?

10943
09:11:20,720 --> 09:11:23,800
Like, I don't, I think this is always what they thought.

10944
09:11:23,800 --> 09:11:25,160
Yeah, this is always what these people did.

10945
09:11:25,160 --> 09:11:27,760
So yes, you know, Democrats are going to win the midterms

10946
09:11:27,760 --> 09:11:28,880
because of them actually doing things.

10947
09:11:28,880 --> 09:11:29,960
All Republicans do nothing.

10948
09:11:29,960 --> 09:11:30,960
I think so too.

10949
09:11:30,960 --> 09:11:33,360
I think it would be an over-correction, Trump's victory.

10950
09:11:35,520 --> 09:11:36,360
- Careful.

10951
09:11:42,200 --> 09:11:44,680
You're gonna hear a lot of Asmigol saying things like,

10952
09:11:46,200 --> 09:11:50,560
the Trump admin fucked up and I don't support what they did.

10953
09:11:50,560 --> 09:11:53,800
In your mind, you're thinking, finally, some sensibility.

10954
09:11:53,800 --> 09:11:55,520
It was horrible, but they did, right?

10955
09:11:55,520 --> 09:11:56,520
And in their mind, they're thinking,

10956
09:11:56,520 --> 09:11:58,320
he didn't go anywhere near far enough, okay?

10957
09:11:58,320 --> 09:12:00,240
That's what these guys are thinking, all right?

10958
09:12:00,240 --> 09:12:01,800
Don't get tricked.

10959
09:12:01,800 --> 09:12:04,280
Three of the elections are proof that it's not needed.

10960
09:12:04,280 --> 09:12:06,320
Well, I think that's really proof that it is needed

10961
09:12:06,320 --> 09:12:07,160
if anything, right?

10962
09:12:07,160 --> 09:12:08,720
I think it's extremely proof that it's needed.

10963
09:12:08,720 --> 09:12:11,720
So yeah, anyway, so then things have changed now, right?

10964
09:12:13,000 --> 09:12:13,840
Here we go.

10965
09:12:16,280 --> 09:12:18,320
- Yeah, I mean, I think, look, I think when you choose

10966
09:12:18,320 --> 09:12:20,840
to call out their corruption, they clearly don't like that.

10967
09:12:20,840 --> 09:12:22,480
They're clearly trying to change the conversation

10968
09:12:22,480 --> 09:12:25,520
given what the midterms are in the state of the economy,

10969
09:12:25,520 --> 09:12:27,480
the state of things around the country.

10970
09:12:27,480 --> 09:12:29,520
I do think there's something about being a woman

10971
09:12:29,520 --> 09:12:31,600
and criticizing them and calling them out on that corruption

10972
09:12:31,600 --> 09:12:33,480
that really gets under their skin, obviously,

10973
09:12:33,480 --> 09:12:34,560
or they wouldn't respond, you know,

10974
09:12:34,560 --> 09:12:37,240
remember the Second Amendment, sweetheart or all that crap.

10975
09:12:37,240 --> 09:12:38,240
But I--

10976
09:12:38,240 --> 09:12:40,280
- You can see that she's flustered.

10977
09:12:43,000 --> 09:12:43,960
She's not happy.

10978
09:12:44,920 --> 09:12:48,440
- I think it's more that it's not speaking to them,

10979
09:12:48,440 --> 09:12:50,400
it's speaking to the people who are potentially

10980
09:12:50,400 --> 09:12:53,560
gonna be asked to follow illegal requests, right?

10981
09:12:53,560 --> 09:12:54,720
It's speaking directly to the people

10982
09:12:54,720 --> 09:12:56,800
who are on the receiving end of this administration

10983
09:12:56,800 --> 09:12:59,800
and reminding them that if you are forced to sign a contract

10984
09:12:59,800 --> 09:13:02,000
and you are told from an advisor in the White House,

10985
09:13:02,000 --> 09:13:03,960
you know, go ahead and sign this contract at the Pentagon

10986
09:13:03,960 --> 09:13:06,440
and give this company that happens to have Trump Jr.

10987
09:13:06,440 --> 09:13:08,800
on the board, it is putting those people

10988
09:13:08,800 --> 09:13:11,800
in a terrible position and people should think about that

10989
09:13:11,800 --> 09:13:14,120
because it is important to remember

10990
09:13:14,120 --> 09:13:16,000
that the president has immunity, right?

10991
09:13:16,000 --> 09:13:17,940
McSpancourt gave him a lot of immunity,

10992
09:13:17,940 --> 09:13:19,480
but the people who commit illegal acts

10993
09:13:19,480 --> 09:13:21,400
on his behalf do not have that immunity and--

10994
09:13:21,400 --> 09:13:22,640
- Well, then he can just give them a pardon,

10995
09:13:22,640 --> 09:13:23,520
so it doesn't matter.

10996
09:13:23,520 --> 09:13:24,360
So I--

10997
09:13:24,360 --> 09:13:26,620
(laughing)

10998
09:13:31,560 --> 09:13:32,400
- I had to spam him and he's like,

10999
09:13:32,400 --> 09:13:34,040
"You got to do real political commentary, Justin,

11000
09:13:34,040 --> 09:13:36,920
you got to talk about what am I supposed to say?

11001
09:13:36,920 --> 09:13:38,960
What do you want me to say to that, ads?"

11002
09:13:40,960 --> 09:13:45,720
No, it shouldn't be that the expectation

11003
09:13:45,720 --> 09:13:47,400
is you do a bunch of the legal shit

11004
09:13:47,400 --> 09:13:48,400
and because it's the US president

11005
09:13:48,400 --> 09:13:49,840
who's on your team, he pardons you for it all.

11006
09:13:49,840 --> 09:13:50,920
What am I supposed to say to that?

11007
09:13:50,920 --> 09:13:53,360
How am I supposed to seriously engage with that comment?

11008
09:13:53,360 --> 09:13:54,760
What do you want me to say?

11009
09:13:56,000 --> 09:13:57,000
- Then the fact that you're saying

11010
09:13:57,000 --> 09:13:58,160
that doesn't make a difference.

11011
09:13:58,160 --> 09:14:00,440
So anyway, yeah, is it because she's a woman

11012
09:14:00,440 --> 09:14:01,760
and this is what these people do.

11013
09:14:01,760 --> 09:14:03,600
Pivot's on a dime from the level and threats

11014
09:14:03,600 --> 09:14:04,960
to playing the victim.

11015
09:14:04,960 --> 09:14:06,600
That's the way, this is what I've said before

11016
09:14:06,600 --> 09:14:07,440
with a lot of these people.

11017
09:14:07,440 --> 09:14:09,080
- You haven't responded with substance to anything?

11018
09:14:09,080 --> 09:14:10,200
- Well, yeah, as you said, yeah,

11019
09:14:10,200 --> 09:14:12,000
I'll do all of this and worse, fuck you

11020
09:14:12,000 --> 09:14:13,880
and the president will pardon me for everything.

11021
09:14:13,880 --> 09:14:15,800
People is that they will attack you

11022
09:14:15,800 --> 09:14:17,920
and then the moment that you say stop attacking me

11023
09:14:17,920 --> 09:14:21,480
or you fight back, they will immediately play the victim.

11024
09:14:21,480 --> 09:14:22,320
They will.

11025
09:14:22,320 --> 09:14:23,560
Trump really did a number on these people.

11026
09:14:23,560 --> 09:14:24,720
This would have happened anyway

11027
09:14:24,720 --> 09:14:27,040
because these people would do this no matter what.

11028
09:14:27,040 --> 09:14:29,480
And USA lost control of its idiots, I know.

11029
09:14:29,480 --> 09:14:32,440
But yeah, it's one should be picking mushrooms or potatoes.

11030
09:14:32,440 --> 09:14:34,200
I mean, I don't really know a lot about her, right?

11031
09:14:34,200 --> 09:14:36,000
The only other thing, oh, and she did make another tweet

11032
09:14:36,000 --> 09:14:36,840
about this.

11033
09:14:36,840 --> 09:14:37,840
Let me see, can I pull up the other tweet?

11034
09:14:37,840 --> 09:14:40,760
'Cause she's also crying that people are being mean to her.

11035
09:14:40,760 --> 09:14:42,560
Let me see if I can pull it up and find this.

11036
09:14:42,560 --> 09:14:43,400
Where did it go?

11037
09:14:43,400 --> 09:14:44,960
Crying that people are being mean to her.

11038
09:14:44,960 --> 09:14:47,880
Are you talking about Trump?

11039
09:14:48,400 --> 09:14:50,880
You wonder-- dude.

11040
09:14:50,880 --> 09:14:51,760
I don't know if I can watch this.

11041
09:14:51,760 --> 09:14:52,920
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

11042
09:14:59,280 --> 09:14:59,920
Donald Trump is--

11043
09:15:00,000 --> 09:15:11,760
literally such a fucking bitch boy that he literally was with Putin with Putin he's sitting

11044
09:15:11,760 --> 09:15:19,280
next to guys like yeah he knows uh he knows all about being persecuted uh remember when

11045
09:15:19,280 --> 09:15:35,060
they uh remember when they came after both of us fuck where was it oh i don't know what

11046
09:15:35,060 --> 09:15:38,960
you're talking about when he was sitting next to Putin and he said like uh they went

11047
09:15:38,960 --> 09:15:49,440
empathetic for the Russia hoax yeah five president trump was asked if he should i don't know that's

11048
09:15:49,440 --> 09:16:15,480
up to our attorney oh seven years ago no fuck god damn it are you asking claud it'll find

11049
09:16:15,480 --> 09:16:33,640
all this kind of shit for you oh really the whole internet searchings have been destroyed

11050
09:16:33,640 --> 09:16:44,160
yep this is kind of hard-hitting political commentary that ads want you to react to as

11051
09:16:44,160 --> 09:16:48,860
when gold doing it's not bad when we do it well the promise is literally where politics

11052
09:16:48,860 --> 09:16:57,120
is in the fucking united states right now i want to say there must be something better

11053
09:16:57,120 --> 09:17:01,360
but i don't know yeah what trump this is literally what trump says in all of mega what mcconnell

11054
09:17:01,360 --> 09:17:04,480
is dead right now being wheeled is asking me a wheeled into fucking congress as a dead

11055
09:17:04,480 --> 09:17:11,520
man that's where we're at i can't believe that's that that's happening like i that

11056
09:17:11,520 --> 09:17:17,060
just feels kind of cruel honestly like mitch mcconnell is not even there mitch wouldn't

11057
09:17:17,060 --> 09:17:29,520
have it any other way halfway yeah i know get exceptional offers at your local outy

11058
09:17:29,520 --> 09:17:38,100
dealer thank you in the past i suggested a trilateral meeting between both president

11059
09:17:38,100 --> 09:17:42,520
putting in salonsky right something that is also on on the docket i see that happening

11060
09:17:42,520 --> 09:18:05,000
at the right time i saw able to trade very much no this is terrible made-up fiction

11061
09:18:05,000 --> 09:18:18,780
half hours are present for the u_s_ that's the special envoy steve witt cough arker stirs

11062
09:18:18,780 --> 09:18:27,160
president putton with flattermere we had uh... many many uh... tough meetings good meetings

11063
09:18:27,160 --> 09:18:32,040
we were uh... interfered with by the rush of rush rush of hooks that made it a little

11064
09:18:32,040 --> 09:18:36,840
bit tougher to deal with but he understood it uh... i think he's probably seen things

11065
09:18:36,840 --> 09:18:43,040
like that during the course of his career he's seen he's seen it all but we had a put

11066
09:18:43,040 --> 09:18:46,800
up with the rush of rush rush of hooks he knew it was a hoax and i knew it was a hoax

11067
09:18:46,800 --> 09:18:51,320
but what was done was very criminal but it made it harder for us to deal as a country

11068
09:18:51,320 --> 09:18:55,880
in terms of the business and all of the things that would like to have dealt with but uh...

11069
09:18:55,880 --> 09:19:03,940
uh... will have a a good chance one believable fucking loser

11070
09:19:03,940 --> 09:19:05,760
from slinging to himself

11071
09:19:05,760 --> 09:19:10,800
when poutins enemies in russia when they attack him he can just uh... have them tried

11072
09:19:10,800 --> 09:19:15,320
to put in jail for no good reason god i wish i could do that that be so awesome but i

11073
09:19:15,320 --> 09:19:18,920
can't and he said that while he's trying he said the same though right away like uh...

11074
09:19:18,920 --> 09:19:22,120
i wish my a military was like north korea

11075
09:19:22,120 --> 09:19:26,680
no he said like uh... that's not it i wish my deja oh no yeah yeah i can say he said

11076
09:19:26,680 --> 09:19:31,480
he was just generals were like hitler's generals and i think i was it was maddest that was like

11077
09:19:31,480 --> 09:19:37,160
uh... no but then he also said he wished that it was like north korea too

11078
09:19:37,160 --> 09:19:41,160
uh... i think that people are being mean to her let me see if i can pull it up and find

11079
09:19:41,160 --> 09:19:43,360
this where did it go no that's not it

11080
09:19:43,360 --> 09:19:46,840
let me see where did it go

11081
09:19:46,840 --> 09:19:51,040
oh yeah she got a suspicious letter people are sending her bad letters uh... not a surprise

11082
09:19:51,040 --> 09:19:58,040
either i don't know really if

11083
09:19:58,920 --> 09:19:59,520
bad letter

11084
09:20:00,000 --> 09:20:01,120
- This follows the string of similar letters.

11085
09:20:01,120 --> 09:20:02,960
Make it think of unknown powdery substances.

11086
09:20:02,960 --> 09:20:03,920
I mean, that sounds like a little bit more

11087
09:20:03,920 --> 09:20:06,040
than just a bad letter, but okay.

11088
09:20:06,040 --> 09:20:07,880
Sorry, what's up?

11089
09:20:07,880 --> 09:20:08,720
- Oh, sorry.

11090
09:20:08,720 --> 09:20:10,360
People in Shatter saying, and I notice this too,

11091
09:20:10,360 --> 09:20:12,560
the discord overlay is broken,

11092
09:20:12,560 --> 09:20:14,040
'cause like, I'm not showing up there,

11093
09:20:14,040 --> 09:20:15,920
and I noticed North wasn't showing up there.

11094
09:20:15,920 --> 09:20:16,760
I don't know.

11095
09:20:16,760 --> 09:20:18,240
You're using the same one that I use.

11096
09:20:18,240 --> 09:20:20,120
I don't know what the fuck's happening with it.

11097
09:20:20,120 --> 09:20:22,120
- Well, maybe they're using PHP as well.

11098
09:20:23,800 --> 09:20:25,760
- Wait, is PHP fucked right now?

11099
09:20:25,760 --> 09:20:27,680
- For a few more hours, I think, yeah.

11100
09:20:29,920 --> 09:20:30,760
- What?

11101
09:20:30,760 --> 09:20:31,600
Oh, okay.

11102
09:20:34,800 --> 09:20:37,000
Oh, that's why DGG is down.

11103
09:20:37,000 --> 09:20:37,840
- Yeah.

11104
09:20:39,160 --> 09:20:41,680
She got a suspicious letter.

11105
09:20:41,680 --> 09:20:43,560
People are sending her bad letters.

11106
09:20:43,560 --> 09:20:44,720
Not a surprise either.

11107
09:20:44,720 --> 09:20:46,160
I don't know really if I can find it.

11108
09:20:46,160 --> 09:20:47,000
- There we go.

11109
09:20:47,000 --> 09:20:47,880
- But she came out and made like a massive,

11110
09:20:47,880 --> 09:20:49,360
massive fucking statement

11111
09:20:49,360 --> 09:20:51,240
about how people are being mean to her

11112
09:20:51,240 --> 09:20:53,040
and saying massive, massive statement.

11113
09:20:53,040 --> 09:20:55,480
What, like, she did like, she called like all the governors

11114
09:20:55,480 --> 09:20:57,760
and in all the king's horse and all the king's men.

11115
09:20:57,760 --> 09:20:59,160
What is massive, massive statement?

11116
09:20:59,160 --> 09:21:00,160
I mean, things start.

11117
09:21:01,160 --> 09:21:03,400
So yeah, she barely beat Rogers when she ran.

11118
09:21:03,400 --> 09:21:05,040
Well, what my point is, oh, there we go.

11119
09:21:05,040 --> 09:21:07,840
This man, Mr. Dima, who is suggesting I be shot.

11120
09:21:07,840 --> 09:21:09,120
Let's see here.

11121
09:21:09,120 --> 09:21:10,920
If Alyssa deploys these fascist tactics

11122
09:21:10,920 --> 09:21:12,680
like illegal arrests and political persecutions

11123
09:21:12,680 --> 09:21:15,040
to intimidate young Americans with opposing political views,

11124
09:21:15,040 --> 09:21:17,280
she will learn why we have the Second Amendment, fuck.

11125
09:21:17,280 --> 09:21:19,360
- That's kind of a pretty crazy statement to make

11126
09:21:19,360 --> 09:21:21,160
to a sitting-year senator.

11127
09:21:21,160 --> 09:21:23,080
- Her and her CIA tactics.

11128
09:21:23,080 --> 09:21:24,400
And we have another person try it

11129
09:21:24,400 --> 09:21:25,960
and then learn about the Second Amendment.

11130
09:21:25,960 --> 09:21:27,080
Oh boy.

11131
09:21:27,080 --> 09:21:27,920
Oh boy.

11132
09:21:27,920 --> 09:21:29,000
- Those are the same person.

11133
09:21:29,000 --> 09:21:30,240
- That's kind of a crazy set.

11134
09:21:30,240 --> 09:21:32,520
Those are crazy things to say.

11135
09:21:32,520 --> 09:21:33,480
- Oh boy.

11136
09:21:33,480 --> 09:21:36,040
So anyway, it was in a mix to be President Trump's

11137
09:21:36,040 --> 09:21:36,920
next Attorney General.

11138
09:21:36,920 --> 09:21:38,240
Yeah, Trump should have picked him.

11139
09:21:38,240 --> 09:21:40,120
After he fired Pam Bondi for not prosecuting

11140
09:21:40,120 --> 09:21:41,360
more of his political opponents,

11141
09:21:41,360 --> 09:21:42,840
he's now at the MAGA dark money group

11142
09:21:42,840 --> 09:21:45,520
mobilizing death threats against me and my staff for sport.

11143
09:21:46,960 --> 09:21:48,360
Wow.

11144
09:21:48,360 --> 09:21:50,640
You went from all this bravado and all of this stuff,

11145
09:21:50,640 --> 09:21:53,040
and now you're trying to people are being mean to you.

11146
09:21:57,600 --> 09:22:00,040
- As when I guess threats are just,

11147
09:22:00,040 --> 09:22:02,600
our death threats are just mean words now.

11148
09:22:02,600 --> 09:22:04,800
I guess that's where we're at, eh?

11149
09:22:04,800 --> 09:22:06,200
- I just like how his face,

11150
09:22:06,200 --> 09:22:07,960
like he thinks he's like made the most enlightened

11151
09:22:07,960 --> 09:22:10,280
fucking point on the planet when it's just like.

11152
09:22:12,560 --> 09:22:13,400
Ah.

11153
09:22:16,240 --> 09:22:17,400
That's too bad.

11154
09:22:17,400 --> 09:22:18,320
That's really too bad.

11155
09:22:18,320 --> 09:22:19,520
Hey, on bro, that's just too bad.

11156
09:22:19,520 --> 09:22:21,200
And again, this is what I'm saying is that these people

11157
09:22:21,200 --> 09:22:24,200
don't actually want to have any sort of a confrontation.

11158
09:22:24,200 --> 09:22:25,400
They just want to dominate this.

11159
09:22:25,400 --> 09:22:27,960
A confrontation with the guy saying he's going to shoot you.

11160
09:22:27,960 --> 09:22:29,400
What are you talking about?

11161
09:22:29,400 --> 09:22:30,400
- Of course, then act like victims

11162
09:22:30,400 --> 09:22:31,680
when something bad happens to them.

11163
09:22:31,680 --> 09:22:32,520
This shouldn't be controversial.

11164
09:22:32,520 --> 09:22:33,560
If you're even stealing taxpayer money,

11165
09:22:33,560 --> 09:22:34,720
then directing to Richard President's family,

11166
09:22:34,720 --> 09:22:35,880
you should be held accountable for the crime.

11167
09:22:35,880 --> 09:22:37,040
I mean, again, like that's not something

11168
09:22:37,040 --> 09:22:37,840
that anybody disagrees with,

11169
09:22:37,840 --> 09:22:39,320
but the moment that you say you're sure about that,

11170
09:22:39,320 --> 09:22:40,600
'cause literally nobody in the Republican side

11171
09:22:40,600 --> 09:22:41,440
is talking about this right now.

11172
09:22:41,440 --> 09:22:42,720
- They've had about Minnesota tax fraud

11173
09:22:42,720 --> 09:22:44,080
with the Somalian daycares,

11174
09:22:44,080 --> 09:22:45,040
and I'm sure she'd be against it.

11175
09:22:45,040 --> 09:22:46,560
So you don't actually believe this at all.

11176
09:22:46,560 --> 09:22:47,720
But anyway, let's scroll back down.

11177
09:22:47,720 --> 09:22:48,560
We're going to look at this here.

11178
09:22:48,560 --> 09:22:49,680
Listen, sweetheart, you're not the victim.

11179
09:22:49,680 --> 09:22:58,080
- And he, thank God for Nick Shirley, then replied to her.

11180
09:22:58,080 --> 09:23:01,240
- Hey, Kalinda, good to finally be on the same stream as you.

11181
09:23:01,240 --> 09:23:02,240
I really like your stuff.

11182
09:23:02,240 --> 09:23:03,080
- Shut up.

11183
09:23:03,080 --> 09:23:03,920
- Oh, really?

11184
09:23:03,920 --> 09:23:05,480
Thanks.

11185
09:23:05,480 --> 09:23:06,840
- Yeah, I've seen a few of your appearances.

11186
09:23:06,840 --> 09:23:08,480
I think you make some good points.

11187
09:23:10,360 --> 09:23:13,200
Hey, Destiny, I saw the other day that you were struggling

11188
09:23:13,200 --> 09:23:16,160
with the difference between a tort and a crime.

11189
09:23:16,160 --> 09:23:18,640
Did you, did Claude solve that for you or are you still--

11190
09:23:18,640 --> 09:23:19,480
- I didn't ask Claude.

11191
09:23:19,480 --> 09:23:20,320
- No, I'm curious.

11192
09:23:20,320 --> 09:23:22,160
Like, how do you decide what becomes a crime

11193
09:23:22,160 --> 09:23:24,080
and what's just a tort?

11194
09:23:24,080 --> 09:23:27,240
- So like, there's a historical answer

11195
09:23:27,240 --> 09:23:28,400
that's kind of boring where it's like,

11196
09:23:28,400 --> 09:23:30,880
we had a lot of like common law crimes.

11197
09:23:30,880 --> 09:23:33,560
Like most, a lot of crimes started out in the common law

11198
09:23:33,560 --> 09:23:35,760
where it was just like kind of understood

11199
09:23:35,760 --> 09:23:37,400
that they were crimes and then kind of they filtered

11200
09:23:37,400 --> 09:23:39,560
into the legislature and they codified them.

11201
09:23:39,560 --> 09:23:40,920
It's not really a great answer though.

11202
09:23:40,920 --> 09:23:42,400
But generally it's kind of like you have

11203
09:23:42,400 --> 09:23:43,640
these two broad categories.

11204
09:23:43,640 --> 09:23:48,280
One is like, you want to return the person

11205
09:23:48,280 --> 09:23:50,240
to where they were before they were harmed,

11206
09:23:50,240 --> 09:23:52,120
which is usually a tort, right?

11207
09:23:52,120 --> 09:23:54,080
Like compensation because the other person

11208
09:23:54,080 --> 09:23:55,560
was negligent or something like that.

11209
09:23:55,560 --> 09:23:56,960
So like, they've been injured

11210
09:23:56,960 --> 09:23:59,040
so you gotta pay for the medical bills, right?

11211
09:23:59,040 --> 09:24:00,440
That's usually gonna be around a tort

11212
09:24:00,440 --> 09:24:02,400
where it's like a crime is where society's kind of said,

11213
09:24:02,400 --> 09:24:03,880
like, all right, like this is so bad

11214
09:24:03,880 --> 09:24:05,960
that we think it's like damaging the fabric of society.

11215
09:24:05,960 --> 09:24:08,240
So like, if you get into a car accident,

11216
09:24:08,240 --> 09:24:10,240
probably not damaging the fabric of society,

11217
09:24:10,240 --> 09:24:11,880
but if you steal someone's car, right?

11218
09:24:11,880 --> 09:24:13,880
You're violating like a property, right?

11219
09:24:13,880 --> 09:24:17,720
And that's where we kind of want to start talking about crimes.

11220
09:24:17,720 --> 09:24:21,840
Is that satisfying answer or are you looking for something deeper?

11221
09:24:21,840 --> 09:24:23,040
- No, that wasn't satisfying.

11222
09:24:23,040 --> 09:24:23,880
'Cause I feel like when you crash a car,

11223
09:24:23,880 --> 09:24:24,880
sometimes those are crimes, right?

11224
09:24:24,880 --> 09:24:26,520
Like you could like manslaughter or whatever.

11225
09:24:26,520 --> 09:24:30,520
- Well, but the car crash isn't the crime, right?

11226
09:24:30,520 --> 09:24:33,120
Like it's like you're usually looking

11227
09:24:33,120 --> 09:24:34,320
at some kind of intent there.

11228
09:24:34,320 --> 09:24:39,160
Like a person is, you know, expressing

11229
09:24:39,160 --> 09:24:41,240
or executing some intent that they have

11230
09:24:41,240 --> 09:24:43,120
that results in harm.

11231
09:24:43,120 --> 09:24:45,480
- Maybe, I mean-- - That is also, you know.

11232
09:24:45,480 --> 09:24:46,800
- Generally the tank crimes are whatever, right?

11233
09:24:46,800 --> 09:24:51,480
Like if you're driving a car and you,

11234
09:24:51,480 --> 09:24:53,960
I guess you could argue negligence is a form of intent

11235
09:24:53,960 --> 09:24:55,200
or reckless is a form of intent

11236
09:24:55,200 --> 09:24:56,600
and you get into a car accident and kill somebody,

11237
09:24:56,600 --> 09:24:58,760
you're gonna probably get at least a manslaughter thing, right?

11238
09:24:58,760 --> 09:25:00,080
Which is not, you're not like intent.

11239
09:25:00,000 --> 09:25:01,900
- No, I mean, that's fine driving down the road.

11240
09:25:01,900 --> 09:25:03,660
If I'm driving down the road and like,

11241
09:25:03,660 --> 09:25:07,180
I don't use my blinker and hit somebody and they die,

11242
09:25:07,180 --> 09:25:09,120
you're not necessarily gonna get

11243
09:25:11,340 --> 09:25:12,300
a criminal charge for that, right?

11244
09:25:12,300 --> 09:25:14,260
If it's a clear accident,

11245
09:25:14,260 --> 09:25:17,340
well, let's say, let's say I do everything right

11246
09:25:17,340 --> 09:25:20,820
and I happen to kill somebody while I'm driving down the road.

11247
09:25:20,820 --> 09:25:22,260
Right, there's no crime there.

11248
09:25:22,260 --> 09:25:23,580
- 100% of you do everything right.

11249
09:25:23,580 --> 09:25:25,060
But if you mess up like a turn signal and you hit

11250
09:25:25,060 --> 09:25:28,260
and you kill somebody, you gotta be manslaughtering up there.

11251
09:25:28,260 --> 09:25:30,360
Now, assuming it was, you're at fault?

11252
09:25:30,360 --> 09:25:33,300
Not like you're trying to kill somebody, though, like.

11253
09:25:33,300 --> 09:25:36,060
- Yeah, like I see what you're saying,

11254
09:25:36,060 --> 09:25:38,420
but it's like in those instances,

11255
09:25:38,420 --> 09:25:41,940
it's like you're committing such a harm to society

11256
09:25:41,940 --> 09:25:46,540
that like society wants to step in and say,

11257
09:25:46,540 --> 09:25:48,500
we want to go above and beyond

11258
09:25:48,500 --> 09:25:50,420
and punish the person doing it.

11259
09:25:50,420 --> 09:25:54,280
Like a tort rarely ever is about punishing the person

11260
09:25:54,280 --> 09:25:55,300
that commits the tort.

11261
09:25:55,300 --> 09:25:58,220
It's almost always about returning the person

11262
09:25:58,220 --> 09:26:03,220
that's been the victim to their original form, right?

11263
09:26:04,540 --> 09:26:06,500
To reconstitute where they were

11264
09:26:06,500 --> 09:26:08,820
at the beginning before the tort happened.

11265
09:26:10,020 --> 09:26:12,460
And we kind of talked about this before, I think,

11266
09:26:12,460 --> 09:26:13,340
I don't know if it was with you,

11267
09:26:13,340 --> 09:26:15,740
but we're like, society's not super interested

11268
09:26:15,740 --> 09:26:17,860
in the victims receiving--

11269
09:26:17,860 --> 09:26:19,420
- Restitution of a crime, sure.

11270
09:26:19,420 --> 09:26:20,540
- Restitution, right.

11271
09:26:20,540 --> 09:26:23,540
That's a tort concept.

11272
09:26:23,540 --> 09:26:26,100
And so it comes down to a lot to like,

11273
09:26:26,100 --> 09:26:27,380
you can kind of trace it back to,

11274
09:26:27,380 --> 09:26:29,780
is the person doing something intentional?

11275
09:26:29,780 --> 09:26:34,180
Is it impacting a property or a property right

11276
09:26:34,180 --> 09:26:36,260
of another person such that like,

11277
09:26:36,260 --> 09:26:40,060
it's violating it in a way that the state needs to step in?

11278
09:26:40,060 --> 09:26:43,500
But like, if you intentionally breach a contract,

11279
09:26:43,500 --> 09:26:44,460
to be fair, right?

11280
09:26:44,460 --> 09:26:46,220
That could involve a property, right?

11281
09:26:46,220 --> 09:26:47,860
But that's rarely a crime,

11282
09:26:47,860 --> 09:26:49,740
but that's usually because it's something

11283
09:26:49,740 --> 09:26:52,500
that can be rendered down to a monetary value.

11284
09:26:52,500 --> 09:26:55,540
That's another side is like a lot of crimes

11285
09:26:55,540 --> 09:26:58,020
involve things that don't really have a monetary value

11286
09:26:58,020 --> 09:27:01,940
that could be resolved that way, like rape or murder.

11287
09:27:01,940 --> 09:27:04,700
Even though assault has like medical damages,

11288
09:27:04,700 --> 09:27:06,500
there's usually harm beyond that

11289
09:27:06,500 --> 09:27:08,540
that's not really addressed, right?

11290
09:27:08,540 --> 09:27:09,860
And we don't want people running around

11291
09:27:09,860 --> 09:27:12,180
assaulting people and then paying them off, right?

11292
09:27:12,180 --> 09:27:14,340
I think it's another side of crime is which like,

11293
09:27:14,340 --> 09:27:18,540
okay, there's crimes that theoretically could be torts,

11294
09:27:18,540 --> 09:27:22,220
but we want to have a punishment that isn't like,

11295
09:27:22,220 --> 09:27:24,780
you're not able to get rid of it just by paying and fine.

11296
09:27:26,060 --> 09:27:27,780
So there's kind of theories around that,

11297
09:27:27,780 --> 09:27:32,500
but also it is kind of a vibes thing

11298
09:27:32,500 --> 09:27:34,580
in the sense of like torts.

11299
09:27:34,580 --> 09:27:37,540
If someone commits a tort against you

11300
09:27:37,540 --> 09:27:39,660
and you never get your money back,

11301
09:27:39,660 --> 09:27:40,980
people are less offended by that

11302
09:27:40,980 --> 09:27:42,740
than if someone commits a crime against you

11303
09:27:42,740 --> 09:27:45,020
and that person never goes to jail.

11304
09:27:45,020 --> 09:27:46,100
I think you kind of brought this up

11305
09:27:46,100 --> 09:27:47,420
in a previous conversation where it's like,

11306
09:27:47,420 --> 09:27:51,180
the justice system needs to work at least a little bit

11307
09:27:51,180 --> 09:27:53,580
or else people will feel the need for vendettas.

11308
09:27:53,580 --> 09:27:55,980
- Sure. - And I think that that's,

11309
09:27:55,980 --> 09:27:58,140
there is a, it's kind of a heuristic there

11310
09:27:58,140 --> 09:28:00,060
where it's just kind of like, all right, like,

11311
09:28:00,060 --> 09:28:02,700
you know, some forms of fraud might actually feel more

11312
09:28:02,700 --> 09:28:06,060
like a tort, but they can be criminal behaviors.

11313
09:28:06,060 --> 09:28:06,900
- Okay.

11314
09:28:08,540 --> 09:28:11,220
- Also, I didn't come on just for that.

11315
09:28:11,220 --> 09:28:13,820
- I joined something called We The Action.

11316
09:28:13,820 --> 09:28:17,100
It's where like, I have a lawyer I signed up to be

11317
09:28:17,100 --> 09:28:21,460
pro bono litigation person around the time of the midterms

11318
09:28:21,460 --> 09:28:23,780
in case they need anybody in my area

11319
09:28:23,780 --> 09:28:26,540
to go and make emergency filings and stuff like that.

11320
09:28:26,540 --> 09:28:28,900
They also have a lot of other great stuff for non-lawyers.

11321
09:28:28,900 --> 09:28:31,540
So you guys should go, if anybody's in chat right now

11322
09:28:31,540 --> 09:28:33,780
that hasn't volunteered, that's a great organization.

11323
09:28:33,780 --> 09:28:36,580
Obviously, DGG or Digital Ground Game

11324
09:28:36,580 --> 09:28:37,900
is a great organization.

11325
09:28:39,460 --> 09:28:41,300
I'm sorry, what's kind of this organization name?

11326
09:28:41,300 --> 09:28:42,660
I wanted to reach out to them.

11327
09:28:42,660 --> 09:28:44,300
- Take Back America.

11328
09:28:44,300 --> 09:28:46,100
- Take Back America, it's a great one.

11329
09:28:47,100 --> 09:28:50,340
You know, we're getting close to election day.

11330
09:28:50,340 --> 09:28:53,260
Voting, you should vote, that is the bare minimum

11331
09:28:53,260 --> 09:28:54,860
as a political action that you can do,

11332
09:28:54,860 --> 09:28:58,900
but canvassing, poll watching, all these different things

11333
09:28:58,900 --> 09:29:01,700
that we can do around it is still part of your duty

11334
09:29:01,700 --> 09:29:05,540
even if it isn't as much of a obligation as voting.

11335
09:29:05,540 --> 09:29:07,860
But you just wanna step in and say that stuff.

11336
09:29:07,860 --> 09:29:12,860
And then as far as Claude Use,

11337
09:29:13,580 --> 09:29:15,580
I heard that you've been getting big on Claude recently.

11338
09:29:15,580 --> 09:29:18,580
I also have been getting big on Claude recently.

11339
09:29:18,580 --> 09:29:22,060
Can I ask, is your feelings about AI changed at all

11340
09:29:22,060 --> 09:29:23,580
since you started using it?

11341
09:29:25,420 --> 09:29:27,060
- Not really, not that much.

11342
09:29:27,060 --> 09:29:30,460
I mean, I see how it can be useful, but wait, which feelings?

11343
09:29:30,460 --> 09:29:32,780
- Okay, well wait, so like,

11344
09:29:32,780 --> 09:29:37,100
do you think it's gonna cause a mass unemployment?

11345
09:29:37,100 --> 09:29:38,380
- No, I think we'll find more jobs.

11346
09:29:38,380 --> 09:29:40,700
We always seem to get more work for people to--

11347
09:29:40,700 --> 09:29:44,620
- And then, but one area that I've been seeing

11348
09:29:44,620 --> 09:29:47,380
a little more of and has a little more concerning

11349
09:29:47,380 --> 09:29:51,660
is it's like people with IQ under 85,

11350
09:29:51,660 --> 09:29:55,380
it's like, are those people going to be able to use AI

11351
09:29:55,380 --> 09:29:57,100
in a way that like, let's not have a job?

11352
09:29:57,100 --> 09:30:00,100
One, and then two, are they gonna be able to understand

11353
09:30:00,000 --> 09:30:05,280
And that AI could be used in a lot of ways to trick them.

11354
09:30:05,280 --> 09:30:09,560
As a lawyer, I have to deal with a lot of people that get scammed, and AI is only making

11355
09:30:09,560 --> 09:30:11,240
that worse.

11356
09:30:11,240 --> 09:30:17,760
I've had people come into my office and show me a video of fake Tyler Perry telling them

11357
09:30:17,760 --> 09:30:21,840
to send them money, and they're like, "Can you believe that Tyler Perry lied to me like

11358
09:30:21,840 --> 09:30:22,840
this?"

11359
09:30:22,840 --> 09:30:26,960
And it's like, "Well, that's obviously AI."

11360
09:30:26,960 --> 09:30:30,000
And then that's like a 30-minute conversation we have to explain to them how that works.

11361
09:30:30,000 --> 09:30:33,560
And it's like, I feel like there's a gigantic amount of our society that's going to be

11362
09:30:33,560 --> 09:30:38,480
incredibly vulnerable to incredibly easily to make scams.

11363
09:30:38,480 --> 09:30:43,480
Do you feel like there needs to be any kind of protections or anything in that direction

11364
09:30:43,480 --> 09:30:46,120
or it's like, "Fuck it, free market."

11365
09:30:46,120 --> 09:30:47,120
I mean, yeah.

11366
09:30:47,120 --> 09:30:48,120
But scamming is already illegal.

11367
09:30:48,120 --> 09:30:50,120
I mean, what more can you do?

11368
09:30:50,120 --> 09:30:51,120
No.

11369
09:30:51,120 --> 09:30:54,560
I mean, you can restrict the actual use of the AI, couldn't you?

11370
09:30:54,560 --> 09:30:57,600
To me, I feel like they're illegal.

11371
09:30:57,600 --> 09:30:58,600
They're illegal.

11372
09:30:58,600 --> 09:31:01,800
I'm sure the AI's don't want you to scam people.

11373
09:31:01,800 --> 09:31:04,320
If they get the feeling that you're trying to do a scam, I think the AI will tell you

11374
09:31:04,320 --> 09:31:05,840
that I don't do this stuff.

11375
09:31:05,840 --> 09:31:09,000
Well, but think about this.

11376
09:31:09,000 --> 09:31:13,920
If there's just a tool out there that any person can use, and for 20 bucks I can scam

11377
09:31:13,920 --> 09:31:19,120
people on a mass scale for hundreds of thousands of millions of dollars, right?

11378
09:31:19,120 --> 09:31:23,200
Don't you think there should be some kind of government check on who is using that kind

11379
09:31:23,200 --> 09:31:24,200
of thing?

11380
09:31:24,200 --> 09:31:25,200
Yeah, probably.

11381
09:31:25,200 --> 09:31:26,200
Arguably.

11382
09:31:26,200 --> 09:31:27,200
It's doing more than anything.

11383
09:31:27,200 --> 09:31:28,200
Yeah.

11384
09:31:28,200 --> 09:31:32,040
It's like making something like something becomes so available or so accessible that changes

11385
09:31:32,040 --> 09:31:33,040
to like a different thing in kind.

11386
09:31:33,040 --> 09:31:35,800
Like it's a different type of thing at that point.

11387
09:31:35,800 --> 09:31:39,760
Like you might be in favor of like made, like the ability for assisted suicide, but you

11388
09:31:39,760 --> 09:31:42,880
probably wouldn't be in favor of every single person having a button in their home that

11389
09:31:42,880 --> 09:31:44,600
they could push to instantaneously kill themselves.

11390
09:31:44,600 --> 09:31:47,000
Like even if you are okay with made, it's like a different thing because making it so

11391
09:31:47,000 --> 09:31:48,000
accessible would change it.

11392
09:31:48,000 --> 09:31:49,000
I don't disagree with that.

11393
09:31:49,000 --> 09:31:52,640
I mean, there should be restrictions and regulations around it, maybe even some type

11394
09:31:52,640 --> 09:31:58,000
of like accountability for an AI producer, if you're able to jailbreak it and use it to

11395
09:31:58,000 --> 09:31:59,000
scam people.

11396
09:31:59,000 --> 09:32:01,280
But I mean, that would require some kind of comprehensive regulatory framework that our

11397
09:32:01,280 --> 09:32:04,360
current government has absolutely zero fucking interest every single time.

11398
09:32:04,360 --> 09:32:06,800
Look, I know you're doing it about politics right now.

11399
09:32:06,800 --> 09:32:11,000
I'm here just having philosophical or hypothetical discussion around AI use.

11400
09:32:11,000 --> 09:32:14,600
You don't have to bring into the real world and depress ourselves.

11401
09:32:14,600 --> 09:32:20,760
I was just, it kind of struck me where it's like, it feels similar to like Robin Hood or

11402
09:32:20,760 --> 09:32:26,120
like prediction markets or sports betting, where it's like, I think it's okay in restricted

11403
09:32:26,120 --> 09:32:29,200
forms and people have restricted like limited access to these things.

11404
09:32:29,200 --> 09:32:33,120
But like as things get more and more frictionless in these areas, I'm just saying massive

11405
09:32:33,120 --> 09:32:37,640
externalities that it's like, yeah, technically liberal values mean that people can do whatever

11406
09:32:37,640 --> 09:32:41,680
they want, but it feels a lot like we're just legalizing heroin and then making it available

11407
09:32:41,680 --> 09:32:45,840
in every street corner and being like, I mean, I wish I could do something about all this

11408
09:32:45,840 --> 09:32:46,840
opioid crisis.

11409
09:32:46,840 --> 09:32:47,840
But what do you want me to do?

11410
09:32:47,840 --> 09:32:52,000
To stop making heroin incredibly accessible to every single person on the planet, it's

11411
09:32:52,000 --> 09:32:57,160
just, I don't know, it's see that like, as far as all the AI doomsday stuff, I'm not

11412
09:32:57,160 --> 09:32:58,880
smart enough to speak to that.

11413
09:32:58,880 --> 09:33:02,280
I'm looking more just kind of like the societal impact like, I literally saw a picture of

11414
09:33:02,280 --> 09:33:06,200
a guy where's like, I saw this person at the airport and it's like this guy looking down

11415
09:33:06,200 --> 09:33:11,400
at his, his phone and it's Claude, and it says like, Claude just goes like, all right,

11416
09:33:11,400 --> 09:33:16,800
you made the airport way to go, bud, let's recap one, order the Uber to get your coffee.

11417
09:33:16,800 --> 09:33:19,760
Three, ride the Uber to airport, four, walk the checkout counter.

11418
09:33:19,760 --> 09:33:20,760
We did it.

11419
09:33:20,760 --> 09:33:21,760
Way to go, bud.

11420
09:33:21,760 --> 09:33:23,740
And it's just like, Jesus Christ.

11421
09:33:23,740 --> 09:33:24,740
Well, that's good.

11422
09:33:24,740 --> 09:33:25,740
That guy made it to the airport.

11423
09:33:25,740 --> 09:33:27,140
He would have never been able to make it otherwise.

11424
09:33:27,140 --> 09:33:28,140
You don't want this guy.

11425
09:33:28,140 --> 09:33:32,640
Unless that guy, unless that guy is using AI instead of having a human handler do it

11426
09:33:32,640 --> 09:33:37,040
for him, in which case, when we lost a job, but hey, at least he's fucking doing it, unless

11427
09:33:37,040 --> 09:33:40,480
that's happening, like that's some fucking sentence starter shit you were talking about

11428
09:33:40,480 --> 09:33:41,480
the other day.

11429
09:33:41,480 --> 09:33:49,680
All that shit to me is like, oh, man, I feel like we are like creating a gigantic part

11430
09:33:49,680 --> 09:33:50,680
of our population.

11431
09:33:50,680 --> 09:33:55,240
There's going to be dummies that just get led by the nose via AI.

11432
09:33:55,240 --> 09:33:59,440
And that's, that's the thing to me, which is like, yes, because like, to me, I've been

11433
09:33:59,440 --> 09:34:01,080
using AI a lot in my job.

11434
09:34:01,080 --> 09:34:03,960
I've been like developing some stuff that really helps out and I'm able to automate a

11435
09:34:03,960 --> 09:34:06,960
lot of the shit I don't like to do.

11436
09:34:06,960 --> 09:34:11,160
And meanwhile, I've seen a lot of the AI that people are making for lawyers.

11437
09:34:11,160 --> 09:34:12,480
And it's mostly shit.

11438
09:34:12,480 --> 09:34:14,640
It's mostly like, I would never use this.

11439
09:34:14,640 --> 09:34:16,980
This is convoluted and stupid.

11440
09:34:16,980 --> 09:34:21,600
And it's kind of making me feel like AI is really useful where you give AI to an expert

11441
09:34:21,600 --> 09:34:26,560
in a field and he can make tools that can make him incredibly more productive.

11442
09:34:26,560 --> 09:34:31,000
But if you give AI to a person that doesn't have like sufficient knowledge to be productive

11443
09:34:31,000 --> 09:34:35,560
already, it kind of just takes the place of them ever learning.

11444
09:34:35,560 --> 09:34:37,040
And it doesn't mean that like they're worthless.

11445
09:34:37,040 --> 09:34:39,880
I understand that I agree with everything you're saying, because every single thing you're

11446
09:34:39,880 --> 09:34:42,400
saying that applies to some extent to every new technology.

11447
09:34:42,400 --> 09:34:45,920
So I guess I'm just not sure if this will be like a totally different type of thing.

11448
09:34:45,920 --> 09:34:47,920
Well, I don't know.

11449
09:34:47,920 --> 09:34:51,120
I think I would, I would push back on that because I think like, if you look at, let's

11450
09:34:51,120 --> 09:34:54,400
just look at the advent of the printing press, right?

11451
09:34:54,400 --> 09:34:59,600
Like massive explosion of books, massive explosion of literacy, all the stuff, but it wasn't because

11452
09:34:59,600 --> 09:35:00,100
people.

11453
09:35:00,000 --> 09:35:04,000
people had access to printing presses themselves, printing presses were still very limited

11454
09:35:04,000 --> 09:35:06,040
as far as the distribution of the technology.

11455
09:35:06,040 --> 09:35:08,700
It was just that the output was something that was very useful here.

11456
09:35:08,700 --> 09:35:14,080
I think it's that people have a greater access to this fundamental technology that can then

11457
09:35:14,080 --> 09:35:15,080
be used in all these different ways.

11458
09:35:15,080 --> 09:35:20,040
If it was like, "Okay, now AI is here, a thousand people have a hold of it and it's disrupting

11459
09:35:20,040 --> 09:35:24,920
the digital art market and it's disrupting mathematics in these different ways," I would

11460
09:35:24,920 --> 09:35:25,920
feel a little different about it.

11461
09:35:25,920 --> 09:35:32,640
I think to me it's like the access direct to the consumer feels a lot different than other

11462
09:35:32,640 --> 09:35:33,640
ones.

11463
09:35:33,640 --> 09:35:37,240
To be fair, I guess you would say that the internet and things like that, smartphones

11464
09:35:37,240 --> 09:35:39,920
are a better comparison.

11465
09:35:39,920 --> 09:35:42,680
So, that's fair.

11466
09:35:42,680 --> 09:35:48,280
I don't know, have you read, I don't know, you like to read books, right?

11467
09:35:48,280 --> 09:35:49,280
Sometimes.

11468
09:35:49,280 --> 09:35:51,240
Okay, have you read Brave New World?

11469
09:35:51,240 --> 09:35:53,240
No, I don't think so.

11470
09:35:53,240 --> 09:35:56,560
But at the 1969 one.

11471
09:35:56,560 --> 09:35:57,560
1984.

11472
09:35:57,560 --> 09:36:00,600
Wait, you never, oh.

11473
09:36:00,600 --> 09:36:02,920
Yeah, no.

11474
09:36:02,920 --> 09:36:07,960
It's kind of like the companion to 1984, I think both get things right or wrong.

11475
09:36:07,960 --> 09:36:12,560
But I think the AI makes you feel a lot more like this is a lot closer to Brave New World

11476
09:36:12,560 --> 09:36:18,560
where in it you kind of have a deep stratification society, but like one of the big parts of

11477
09:36:18,560 --> 09:36:22,640
it is that it's like, "No, there's like a handful of people that are actually intelligent

11478
09:36:22,640 --> 09:36:27,560
and are running society and everyone else is just kind of living in a fake, pleasure

11479
09:36:27,560 --> 09:36:31,640
society that just kind of keeps them happy and they can live within it but never have

11480
09:36:31,640 --> 09:36:32,640
any true responsibilities."

11481
09:36:32,640 --> 09:36:37,560
And it's like, this feels weirdly close to that in ways where it's like if everybody

11482
09:36:37,560 --> 09:36:41,360
just gets like glued to their screen and they get to kind of live in that fake reality

11483
09:36:41,360 --> 09:36:45,520
while a few people that are actually intelligent enough to know what's going on are in the

11484
09:36:45,520 --> 09:36:48,560
background just like keeping the fucking lights on for everybody.

11485
09:36:48,560 --> 09:36:54,480
I don't know, it just feels like kind of like a sad, dead end rather than some kind

11486
09:36:54,480 --> 09:36:59,280
of like, you know, AI apocalypse or, you know, super cyber future.

11487
09:36:59,280 --> 09:37:00,280
So I don't know.

11488
09:37:00,280 --> 09:37:01,280
Yeah, I don't know.

11489
09:37:01,280 --> 09:37:04,160
I was just going to say we're all pans out in the end.

11490
09:37:04,160 --> 09:37:10,200
I'm not sure what the, you know, like are you about to get rid of 10-minute ads because

11491
09:37:10,200 --> 09:37:14,280
you can just do it all with Claude or are you just making like crazy fun apps and shit

11492
09:37:14,280 --> 09:37:15,280
like that?

11493
09:37:15,280 --> 09:37:21,560
I'm about to get rid of him, oh, it's probably not how much he bugs me and I'm just kidding.

11494
09:37:21,560 --> 09:37:23,160
No, probably not.

11495
09:37:23,160 --> 09:37:26,480
Maybe if I had more brain power, maybe that's something I could figure out how to automate.

11496
09:37:26,480 --> 09:37:30,920
But like the idea is always that, and again, maybe something will happen that fundamentally

11497
09:37:30,920 --> 09:37:33,360
changes this, this lump of labor fallacy thing.

11498
09:37:33,360 --> 09:37:39,520
The idea is maybe I manage to replace 10-minute ads as my YouTube editor and now because he

11499
09:37:39,520 --> 09:37:41,400
doesn't have to do that, he doesn't have to do that.

11500
09:37:41,400 --> 09:37:44,920
Maybe I bring him on as like an in-person videographer guy who follows me around with

11501
09:37:44,920 --> 09:37:47,720
a camera when I go to events or whatever or maybe I hear, yeah.

11502
09:37:47,720 --> 09:37:48,720
Sure.

11503
09:37:48,720 --> 09:37:52,600
No, no, like, and I see that at my job where it's like, I'm probably going to automate

11504
09:37:52,600 --> 09:37:58,440
away, I'd say by the end of the year, maybe early next year, probably 50% of my, my ex,

11505
09:37:58,440 --> 09:37:59,440
I wish.

11506
09:37:59,440 --> 09:38:05,240
I mean, it's more likely to be paralegal, but now it's like, I could see like 50% of my

11507
09:38:05,240 --> 09:38:07,840
work probably getting automated away, but it's not like then I'd be like, cool, I'm just

11508
09:38:07,840 --> 09:38:08,840
going to like sit around and do nothing.

11509
09:38:08,840 --> 09:38:11,840
It's like, okay, now I think it's been that 50% of my time going and like getting more

11510
09:38:11,840 --> 09:38:17,640
clients, right? And I think the, I don't think, I'm not worried about a lump of labor fallacy

11511
09:38:17,640 --> 09:38:22,120
in the sense of like, the jobs are going to go away.

11512
09:38:22,120 --> 09:38:25,800
Whenever I look at like, at least my field, the issue is more of a bandwidth thing. It's

11513
09:38:25,800 --> 09:38:32,160
like, if I can handle, if me, if I can handle and every partner in the world law firm, every

11514
09:38:32,160 --> 09:38:36,840
partner in the world can handle two or three times as many cases, their need for support

11515
09:38:36,840 --> 09:38:40,920
staff and things like that, that's where I think it kind of goes away.

11516
09:38:40,920 --> 09:38:44,560
I just feel like there's always like two sides to all of this. Like, I don't know what clients

11517
09:38:44,560 --> 09:38:48,200
you take on right now, but a complaint that I'm seeing in a lot of places is there's a

11518
09:38:48,200 --> 09:38:53,000
lot more like the, the litigant pro se cases are actually starting to kind of get harder

11519
09:38:53,000 --> 09:38:57,840
now because there's a lot of like, in the beginning, AI shit for a lot of the legal shit,

11520
09:38:57,840 --> 09:39:01,960
it was dog shit, but now they can actually walk you through a decent amount of the process

11521
09:39:01,960 --> 09:39:06,760
and procedure, the cases that they're citing are not just like wild random 1742 common lot,

11522
09:39:06,760 --> 09:39:09,560
like, they're citing the correct things, they're helping you with the procedural stuff and

11523
09:39:09,560 --> 09:39:12,720
the legal arguments are things that now you have to actually kind of contend with. It

11524
09:39:12,720 --> 09:39:15,920
wasn't just like bullshit before. And so I'm sure there's a lot of people, and then I've

11525
09:39:15,920 --> 09:39:19,200
heard this comic complaint from lawyers that every time they're dealing with their clients

11526
09:39:19,200 --> 09:39:23,840
now, the clients are basically running through the filings and the things their lawyers are

11527
09:39:23,840 --> 09:39:27,760
telling them and then spitting back the questions to the lawyers or whatever. And so that like

11528
09:39:27,760 --> 09:39:31,840
all the, all the sides are kind of like gaining more and more here. So it's not like, Oh, like

11529
09:39:31,840 --> 09:39:34,320
I'm using AI can make my work so much more efficient now. And then the rest of the world

11530
09:39:34,320 --> 09:39:37,360
is like, Oh, that's great. So we can file so many more bullshit cases now. Like, like,

11531
09:39:37,360 --> 09:39:41,840
yeah, I don't know. You're writing this is it like, well, one, there are more pro say,

11532
09:39:41,840 --> 09:39:45,800
though, to be fair, that the luke system is pushing back where like, pro say people are

11533
09:39:45,800 --> 09:39:51,880
getting sanctioned a lot more than they ever have before, which is nice. It's hard to get

11534
09:39:51,880 --> 09:39:57,360
sent you to get to pro say people. And now judges are like, if you used AI and you're

11535
09:39:57,360 --> 09:39:59,960
gonna actually start doing this shit, cool. All right, we're gonna start treating like

11536
09:40:00,000 --> 09:40:03,780
a real fucking lawyer in sanctioning you, which I love.

11537
09:40:03,780 --> 09:40:05,660
But, and then also, I will say,

11538
09:40:05,660 --> 09:40:06,820
the amount of people out there that are like,

11539
09:40:06,820 --> 09:40:08,380
"Great, I don't need a lawyer now,"

11540
09:40:08,380 --> 09:40:10,060
and they just write their contracts with AI,

11541
09:40:10,060 --> 09:40:12,140
that is exploding and making more work.

11542
09:40:13,540 --> 09:40:15,420
I think it just, to me, it's kind of a thing where it's like,

11543
09:40:15,420 --> 09:40:18,160
I don't know how much, like,

11544
09:40:18,160 --> 09:40:22,300
I am skeptical of like that amount of work growing enough

11545
09:40:22,300 --> 09:40:26,700
to then like, also like, require that people

11546
09:40:26,700 --> 09:40:28,820
with heightened bandwidth to accept cases

11547
09:40:28,820 --> 09:40:32,220
would still need the same amount of people working under them.

11548
09:40:33,340 --> 09:40:34,560
And I think that's kind of the thing,

11549
09:40:34,560 --> 09:40:36,020
is like, I think there is this,

11550
09:40:36,020 --> 09:40:37,740
I don't think there's like an infinite limit of like,

11551
09:40:37,740 --> 09:40:39,980
oh, you'll just keep finding more and more cases.

11552
09:40:39,980 --> 09:40:40,820
I do think there's gonna be--

11553
09:40:40,820 --> 09:40:42,020
- I mean, we'll see, I mean, that's all we can do is wait

11554
09:40:42,020 --> 09:40:43,140
and see, 'cause it hasn't happened yet.

11555
09:40:43,140 --> 09:40:44,140
People keep saying it's gonna happen

11556
09:40:44,140 --> 09:40:45,380
and it hasn't quite happened yet.

11557
09:40:45,380 --> 09:40:46,220
- Yeah.

11558
09:40:46,220 --> 09:40:47,040
- I think it's a lump of labor sale.

11559
09:40:47,040 --> 09:40:47,880
It's like, but maybe it will.

11560
09:40:47,880 --> 09:40:49,620
Like, it feels like it does feel to me intuitively,

11561
09:40:49,620 --> 09:40:51,180
like it's a different type of thing

11562
09:40:51,180 --> 09:40:54,340
and that maybe this could happen, but for some reason,

11563
09:40:54,340 --> 09:40:55,860
it seems like we always still find more shit to do,

11564
09:40:55,860 --> 09:40:56,860
but who knows?

11565
09:40:56,860 --> 09:41:00,380
- And to be fair, and this is one paper that I read,

11566
09:41:00,380 --> 09:41:02,060
paper, it's one article I read,

11567
09:41:02,060 --> 09:41:05,020
that was like, hey, other than the tech field,

11568
09:41:05,020 --> 09:41:09,340
basically every market that AI has introduced itself

11569
09:41:09,340 --> 09:41:10,860
to has increased in jobs.

11570
09:41:10,860 --> 09:41:12,980
I think something along those lines where it's like,

11571
09:41:12,980 --> 09:41:16,340
only the tech field has lost total jobs

11572
09:41:16,340 --> 09:41:19,180
after having AI introduced to it, which makes sense.

11573
09:41:20,620 --> 09:41:24,380
But yeah, it's a weird feeling

11574
09:41:24,380 --> 09:41:25,220
and this is where it's like,

11575
09:41:25,220 --> 09:41:27,100
this is really cool that I'm doing all this automation.

11576
09:41:27,100 --> 09:41:29,220
But like, I'm not that smart.

11577
09:41:29,220 --> 09:41:32,980
And if I can figure this out to do this much for my job,

11578
09:41:32,980 --> 09:41:36,020
it's like, man, you know, I think people,

11579
09:41:36,020 --> 09:41:37,540
lawyers are way too attached to their paralegals

11580
09:41:37,540 --> 09:41:38,460
to get rid of them over this.

11581
09:41:38,460 --> 09:41:40,900
But like, I think that the next generation

11582
09:41:40,900 --> 09:41:42,620
of paralegals is gonna be smaller.

11583
09:41:42,620 --> 09:41:43,460
I think that's how I would,

11584
09:41:43,460 --> 09:41:44,300
but I don't think that currently--

11585
09:41:44,300 --> 09:41:46,180
- I think when I look at technology,

11586
09:41:46,180 --> 09:41:50,140
I view it as like technology a lots for linear increases

11587
09:41:50,140 --> 09:41:53,500
in like standard of living and wellbeing for all of society.

11588
09:41:53,500 --> 09:41:55,140
And it allows for exponential gains

11589
09:41:55,140 --> 09:41:59,700
for like decreasingly smaller amounts

11590
09:41:59,700 --> 09:42:02,980
of really capable intelligent individuals.

11591
09:42:02,980 --> 09:42:05,500
So like, I agree with you that like,

11592
09:42:05,500 --> 09:42:07,180
as technologies come around,

11593
09:42:07,180 --> 09:42:08,500
there's gonna be people that are just,

11594
09:42:08,500 --> 09:42:10,260
everybody's life is improving.

11595
09:42:10,260 --> 09:42:11,420
But as these technologies get around,

11596
09:42:11,420 --> 09:42:13,420
like, and it probably is gated off

11597
09:42:13,420 --> 09:42:15,820
by higher and higher IQ brackets or whatever.

11598
09:42:15,820 --> 09:42:17,220
But like, those people are able to take it

11599
09:42:17,220 --> 09:42:21,980
and do something unbelievable and insane with it, I'm sure.

11600
09:42:21,980 --> 09:42:22,980
If I had to guess without any,

11601
09:42:22,980 --> 09:42:25,940
it's probably gonna be the, I'm sorry, the software people

11602
09:42:25,940 --> 09:42:28,980
where somebody's gonna come out with some insane project

11603
09:42:28,980 --> 09:42:31,540
or a piece of software application company.

11604
09:42:31,540 --> 09:42:33,660
And it's gonna be like literally one fucking dude

11605
09:42:33,660 --> 09:42:37,060
and like 400 agents that he's got underneath him or something.

11606
09:42:38,140 --> 09:42:39,140
Yeah.

11607
09:42:39,140 --> 09:42:41,620
- Let me, I kind of like any phrase

11608
09:42:41,620 --> 09:42:42,620
that made me think of something just now.

11609
09:42:42,620 --> 09:42:47,620
So would you say it's possible that as technology comes out,

11610
09:42:47,820 --> 09:42:51,940
it's raising, it's kind of flattening everything

11611
09:42:51,940 --> 09:42:55,300
where people's standard of living becomes more normalized.

11612
09:42:55,300 --> 09:42:59,180
And in the past, there's always been way more people

11613
09:42:59,180 --> 09:43:00,020
at the low end.

11614
09:43:00,020 --> 09:43:03,380
So as you're kind of normalizing people's standard of living,

11615
09:43:03,380 --> 09:43:05,940
it seems like a lot of people are rising up.

11616
09:43:05,940 --> 09:43:08,660
And then a few people at the top kind of fall down

11617
09:43:08,660 --> 09:43:11,020
because they're not in that super smart class, right?

11618
09:43:11,020 --> 09:43:15,140
And in the past, that kind of line has allowed it

11619
09:43:15,140 --> 09:43:16,380
so that like things are going.

11620
09:43:16,380 --> 09:43:18,860
And now AI might set that line where it's like,

11621
09:43:18,860 --> 09:43:21,100
okay, before if you were like one standard deviation away

11622
09:43:21,100 --> 09:43:25,300
from the mean with IQ, you'd still be in that kind of upper class

11623
09:43:25,300 --> 09:43:26,900
and you'd kind of benefit from it.

11624
09:43:26,900 --> 09:43:29,380
But now it's like, no, you need to be like two or more.

11625
09:43:29,380 --> 09:43:31,980
- I don't know because I feel like there are like

11626
09:43:31,980 --> 09:43:34,700
intelligence things that are helping everybody.

11627
09:43:34,700 --> 09:43:36,020
Oh, actually, I can't even, I don't know.

11628
09:43:36,020 --> 09:43:38,260
'Cause I was gonna say outside of just your job,

11629
09:43:38,260 --> 09:43:40,420
being more intelligent can help you with basic things.

11630
09:43:40,420 --> 09:43:41,780
And then I was gonna give the example of like even like

11631
09:43:41,780 --> 09:43:43,780
managing your diet, but technically you could argue,

11632
09:43:43,780 --> 09:43:46,220
well, GLP ones actually are a fix for that

11633
09:43:46,220 --> 09:43:47,220
for lower IQ individuals.

11634
09:43:47,220 --> 09:43:48,060
- Yeah.

11635
09:43:48,060 --> 09:43:48,900
- Now these are things that can help them.

11636
09:43:48,900 --> 09:43:50,500
So I don't know who else, I guess we'll see you.

11637
09:43:50,500 --> 09:43:52,860
But I mean, I can't speculate, I have no idea.

11638
09:43:52,860 --> 09:43:54,380
But I mean, yeah, I don't know.

11639
09:43:54,380 --> 09:43:55,220
I mean, it's possible.

11640
09:43:55,220 --> 09:43:56,980
I'm not a speculator, okay?

11641
09:43:56,980 --> 09:43:59,420
- Well, anything's possible, oh, okay.

11642
09:43:59,420 --> 09:44:01,020
- It's not logically impossible, you know?

11643
09:44:01,020 --> 09:44:01,860
Is it logically possible?

11644
09:44:01,860 --> 09:44:03,980
Did you demonstrate the contradiction?

11645
09:44:03,980 --> 09:44:05,420
- You know, I'm sorry.

11646
09:44:05,420 --> 09:44:08,660
I came in here only with vibes, no strong claim.

11647
09:44:08,660 --> 09:44:09,500
- Interesting.

11648
09:44:09,500 --> 09:44:12,660
- And I said it like I had a strong claim

11649
09:44:12,660 --> 09:44:14,740
instead of saying I had a vibe.

11650
09:44:14,740 --> 09:44:17,700
So apologies to you in the chat and to Klynda.

11651
09:44:18,940 --> 09:44:21,020
I should have done that, I see why I was wrong.

11652
09:44:21,020 --> 09:44:21,860
- Thank you.

11653
09:44:21,860 --> 09:44:25,020
- What do you mean by vibes and strong claims there, buddy?

11654
09:44:26,100 --> 09:44:28,740
- Excuse me, don't assault my definitions.

11655
09:44:28,740 --> 09:44:31,220
I'm here to only assault everybody else's definitions.

11656
09:44:31,220 --> 09:44:32,660
No, but yeah, okay, cool.

11657
09:44:32,660 --> 09:44:34,180
I just wondered 'cause everybody's memeing

11658
09:44:34,180 --> 09:44:35,500
about you using Claude now.

11659
09:44:35,500 --> 09:44:37,460
And I talked to Hutch about it a little bit

11660
09:44:37,460 --> 09:44:38,820
'cause he's big on it.

11661
09:44:38,820 --> 09:44:40,500
Have you tried any of the other models?

11662
09:44:40,500 --> 09:44:42,100
'Cause I've started my product,

11663
09:44:42,100 --> 09:44:44,460
like I'm doing a product now where I'm using Claude

11664
09:44:44,460 --> 09:44:48,860
and chat TPT because I need to do more than one thing

11665
09:44:48,860 --> 09:44:49,700
at a time.

11666
09:44:50,560 --> 09:44:52,140
- So I've got a new content.

11667
09:44:52,140 --> 09:44:54,780
- Loosively use chat TPT.

11668
09:44:54,780 --> 09:44:56,380
It's the one that I paid for.

11669
09:44:57,260 --> 09:44:59,380
- I don't like using, I don't want to, no, see,

11670
09:44:59,380 --> 09:45:00,220
I've actually,

11671
09:45:00,000 --> 09:45:03,520
started using chat GBT and I kind of enjoy it. I feel like it does things a

11672
09:45:03,520 --> 09:45:06,960
little bit different from Claude and I don't like Claude checking its own

11673
09:45:06,960 --> 09:45:11,200
work. I don't trust it. It's actually been nice because when I have

11674
09:45:11,200 --> 09:45:14,640
chat GBT, I mostly use chat GBT to like look over Claude's work and say, "Well,

11675
09:45:14,640 --> 09:45:17,840
this shit doesn't make sense." And then Claude's like, "Oh, I'm sorry. I'm

11676
09:45:17,840 --> 09:45:23,040
sorry." But it is funny because Claude obviously

11677
09:45:23,040 --> 09:45:25,760
knows that I'm a lawyer and I talked to it about legal ethics for a little

11678
09:45:25,760 --> 09:45:30,400
bit and now it's like really paranoid about that. He's like, "You're a lawyer,

11679
09:45:30,400 --> 09:45:33,840
so like I don't know about this part, but maybe it's not good for you."

11680
09:45:33,840 --> 09:45:35,760
That's probably the most annoying thing for Claude is you kind of have to

11681
09:45:35,760 --> 09:45:38,880
trigger it sometimes. Yeah, because I was running into a thing where it

11682
09:45:38,880 --> 09:45:42,240
started to realize the project that I was working on like a little over

11683
09:45:42,240 --> 09:45:45,120
halfway through and it was like, "I'm actually not comfortable doing this." I'm

11684
09:45:45,120 --> 09:45:47,840
like, "No, no, no, it's okay. I know that it looks like this, but I'm actually

11685
09:45:47,840 --> 09:45:49,920
this person. I'm actually managing this and it's a totally

11686
09:45:49,920 --> 09:45:52,240
everything." He's like, "Okay, thank you for the context, so let's keep going." I

11687
09:45:52,240 --> 09:45:55,520
guess. I imagine if you tell your legal person it's probably even more

11688
09:45:55,520 --> 09:45:59,840
strict on some things, but yeah. Yeah, well, it's like, yeah, it's just very

11689
09:45:59,840 --> 09:46:04,960
funny because then it'll be like, yeah, I'll set rules early. It was

11690
09:46:04,960 --> 09:46:08,160
funny when I first started the project, it was back when I were like,

11691
09:46:08,160 --> 09:46:11,440
lawyers were like, "Don't use AI at all." So I was just kind of making like a

11692
09:46:11,440 --> 09:46:15,120
scheduling app and then there were like one or two cases that's come out this

11693
09:46:15,120 --> 09:46:18,160
year pretty recently from some pretty smart judges that it looks like it's

11694
09:46:18,160 --> 09:46:21,600
probably going to be the guiding rule for lawyers using AI and it's really

11695
09:46:21,600 --> 09:46:24,560
smart and has a lot of good things. So I can use it a lot more

11696
09:46:24,560 --> 09:46:28,080
expansively. And so now I've got to come in and be like, "Hey, remember all those

11697
09:46:28,080 --> 09:46:31,600
really strict rules that I put in? Let's start relaxing those." And it's like,

11698
09:46:31,600 --> 09:46:33,840
"Yeah, of course." And it still hasn't done that. It's still like, "No, I'm not

11699
09:46:33,840 --> 09:46:39,280
going to do that shit." So that's annoying, but you know, I've been

11700
09:46:39,280 --> 09:46:43,920
enjoying it. So as far as like, as a streamer, like, do you see any of like

11701
09:46:43,920 --> 09:46:47,840
your streamer stuff being automated by it or is it just more of just kind of

11702
09:46:47,840 --> 09:46:51,920
like it's like directly with your job? I have like level one engagement with it

11703
09:46:51,920 --> 09:46:56,880
right now. So I have no idea. The problem is, I'm assuming maybe the

11704
09:46:56,880 --> 09:46:59,280
guys that like work on the browsers and stuff. I don't have any other tools for

11705
09:46:59,280 --> 09:47:02,160
them to work with. But like, since my stuff is so

11706
09:47:02,160 --> 09:47:06,480
entertainment based, I'm guessing I'm probably on the outer perimeter of

11707
09:47:06,480 --> 09:47:11,680
things that could be touched by AI. Like if I was preparing, like I think if I was

11708
09:47:11,680 --> 09:47:14,640
writing more, I think that I could be using AI to dramatically accelerate

11709
09:47:14,640 --> 09:47:17,200
that. Or if I was like publishing my notes and research stuff more, I could

11710
09:47:17,200 --> 09:47:19,760
probably use it to dramatically accelerate that. But in terms of like

11711
09:47:19,760 --> 09:47:26,160
being on camera and doing stuff. And AI can't fix audio problems, right?

11712
09:47:26,160 --> 09:47:29,600
Not my audio problems. Although I did ask AI for all of my recent stuff and I got

11713
09:47:29,600 --> 09:47:33,280
me a brand new thing I put together today. Claude did a good job

11714
09:47:33,280 --> 09:47:36,640
recommending stuff on that. So good job, Claude.

11715
09:47:36,640 --> 09:47:41,600
All right, man. Okay. Well, yeah, I just, I've been, I've been

11716
09:47:41,600 --> 09:47:43,920
interested to hear about it. Clint, I don't know what you do in your daily

11717
09:47:43,920 --> 09:47:47,520
life. And if you don't want to reveal it, I understand. But like, when you're using

11718
09:47:47,520 --> 09:47:50,640
chat DPT, are you using like on a side product? Or do you like use it for like

11719
09:47:50,640 --> 09:47:55,600
what you do for a living? Well, okay, right now, what I do for a

11720
09:47:55,600 --> 09:47:59,280
living is I stream while I'm waiting for some employment stuff to get

11721
09:47:59,280 --> 09:48:02,720
done in the background. But I use chat GPT like a glorified Google

11722
09:48:02,720 --> 09:48:06,240
scraper. Kind of like, I think Destiny's probably using it similar to me.

11723
09:48:06,240 --> 09:48:10,960
I use it to find polling data, documents, information, stuff like that.

11724
09:48:10,960 --> 09:48:13,840
Basically, I'll use it to do research. It dramatically speeds things up.

11725
09:48:13,840 --> 09:48:17,040
I'm working on a video about the US military right now.

11726
09:48:17,040 --> 09:48:21,520
And I found it found me so much shit that was really useful. And it was all like

11727
09:48:21,520 --> 09:48:24,560
US government sources, all like PDF stuff from the government and stuff,

11728
09:48:24,560 --> 09:48:28,080
government accountability reports. It's all like from the United States

11729
09:48:28,080 --> 09:48:30,720
government. It's all yeah, it's really good for that.

11730
09:48:30,720 --> 09:48:34,000
That's that's mainly what I use it for. But I mean, I've used it for other things

11731
09:48:34,000 --> 09:48:37,120
to it. You know, I pay $30 a month for it. I'm gonna,

11732
09:48:37,120 --> 09:48:41,760
I'm gonna fucking milk it, you know, I'm on the $28 plan for Claude.

11733
09:48:41,760 --> 09:48:45,520
And then I got a deal where chat GPT is free for me for now.

11734
09:48:45,520 --> 09:48:49,760
I'm so jealous of my wife. She's got a fucking enterprise plan through her job.

11735
09:48:49,760 --> 09:48:52,880
And she just has unlimited fucking tokens, basically. So jealous.

11736
09:48:54,720 --> 09:48:58,960
But okay, that's interesting. Because like, I can't really use it for research,

11737
09:48:58,960 --> 09:49:01,760
mostly because it just doesn't. It's not very good.

11738
09:49:02,480 --> 09:49:06,160
As far as like understanding cases, it's got a lot better.

11739
09:49:06,160 --> 09:49:12,320
Is it really not? We should do a mock trial. We have like 10 out or no,

11740
09:49:12,320 --> 09:49:16,080
like three hours to prepare like a fucking like a motion or a brief or something.

11741
09:49:16,080 --> 09:49:18,240
I feel like if you ask the right question, I feel like this is a fucking fucker.

11742
09:49:19,200 --> 09:49:20,400
I do like this is a really good job.

11743
09:49:21,520 --> 09:49:26,320
I don't know, I should do it. That sounds like a string content.

11744
09:49:27,040 --> 09:49:30,240
Yeah, I mean, I was talking to Hutch about a spring court case and he tried to call me out

11745
09:49:30,240 --> 09:49:35,200
with a Claude interpretation. And I had that I just slowed down and, you know,

11746
09:49:36,160 --> 09:49:38,560
hold his hand while I told him that Claude was actually wrong.

11747
09:49:39,200 --> 09:49:41,360
Oh, actually, well, now I'm thinking because it probably depends.

11748
09:49:41,360 --> 09:49:43,920
Well, hold on. I thought you just meant like standard legal work.

11749
09:49:43,920 --> 09:49:46,640
If you're not going to Supreme Court stuff, my guess is they probably,

11750
09:49:46,640 --> 09:49:49,360
I mean, like, no, no, if I'm going to give it like a fill out a form,

11751
09:49:49,360 --> 09:49:52,880
yeah, it'll do that. I'm saying like, I need, I need to know, I need a case that says this,

11752
09:49:52,880 --> 09:49:57,120
that does this. And it'll be like, here's a case and it'll be like in the right field.

11753
09:49:57,120 --> 09:49:59,520
And then it'll be like, Oh, this is a totally.

11754
09:50:00,000 --> 09:50:03,820
irrelevant for multiple reasons or poor interpretation of what this is.

11755
09:50:03,820 --> 09:50:07,080
>> I feel like I view Claude the same.

11756
09:50:07,080 --> 09:50:08,860
Dude, I hate this is so cringe.

11757
09:50:08,860 --> 09:50:10,400
Sorry, because I'm sorry.

11758
09:50:10,400 --> 09:50:12,460
Everything I'm giving you is a 10 percent take check, remember this, okay?

11759
09:50:12,460 --> 09:50:15,860
Okay. So I view Claude the same way that I view employees to

11760
09:50:15,860 --> 09:50:19,460
where if you have the most talented employees in the world and

11761
09:50:19,460 --> 09:50:22,220
kind of like a Med product manager or a team manager or whatever,

11762
09:50:22,220 --> 09:50:23,580
then you can get like, okay,

11763
09:50:23,580 --> 09:50:25,740
work out of them especially for like searches or whatever.

11764
09:50:25,740 --> 09:50:27,700
But if you're really familiar with

11765
09:50:27,700 --> 09:50:29,620
the underlying engineering and you're a team lead,

11766
09:50:29,620 --> 09:50:32,760
you can take a group of good employees and you can like make

11767
09:50:32,760 --> 09:50:36,180
the world with them because you because you understand

11768
09:50:36,180 --> 09:50:38,760
the underlying stuff and because you're like the lead and

11769
09:50:38,760 --> 09:50:40,620
hopefully you're selected for higher intelligence here,

11770
09:50:40,620 --> 09:50:43,780
and you can see like a larger macro picture that the difference

11771
09:50:43,780 --> 09:50:45,960
between having some legal understanding.

11772
09:50:45,960 --> 09:50:47,580
We get in between saying like, "Hey,

11773
09:50:47,580 --> 09:50:50,420
I'm suing a guy who injured me,

11774
09:50:50,420 --> 09:50:52,140
help me find the best cases."

11775
09:50:52,140 --> 09:50:54,140
Like the difference between saying that versus,

11776
09:50:54,140 --> 09:50:58,740
"Hey, I'm in the fifth circuit for a federal case where somebody has

11777
09:50:58,740 --> 09:51:00,460
engaged in a second degree, a better in assault.

11778
09:51:00,460 --> 09:51:02,900
I'm looking for cases within the past 15 years that are inside

11779
09:51:02,900 --> 09:51:04,220
of blah, blah, blah. Like if you know the stuff,

11780
09:51:04,220 --> 09:51:05,220
I don't know if those are the best things to care about.

11781
09:51:05,220 --> 09:51:06,980
But if you like know the stuff to search for,

11782
09:51:06,980 --> 09:51:08,900
I get that you can put it way more,

11783
09:51:08,900 --> 09:51:10,900
way, way, way better information return to you.

11784
09:51:10,900 --> 09:51:14,180
>> So there's like two things on this,

11785
09:51:14,180 --> 09:51:17,100
I can think of right now that like I've run into is one.

11786
09:51:17,100 --> 09:51:20,060
One of the problems is that like you were going to be using

11787
09:51:20,060 --> 09:51:23,980
Lexus or Westlaw, maybe Google Scholar,

11788
09:51:23,980 --> 09:51:26,100
which is actually better than a lot of people get credit for.

11789
09:51:26,100 --> 09:51:28,700
Very unlikely, maybe Bloomberg to be looking for cases.

11790
09:51:28,700 --> 09:51:30,620
All four of those are going to tell you to

11791
09:51:30,620 --> 09:51:34,460
fuck off and not use your agent or anything to use theirs.

11792
09:51:34,460 --> 09:51:36,060
Then also if you use an agent,

11793
09:51:36,060 --> 09:51:37,180
they're going to be like, "Wow,

11794
09:51:37,180 --> 09:51:40,900
I don't like logging into shit for you," and that sucks.

11795
09:51:40,900 --> 09:51:43,660
So the user experience as far as using

11796
09:51:43,660 --> 09:51:48,940
a non-browser-based agent that they already have sucks,

11797
09:51:48,940 --> 09:51:53,820
and their agents they have within their services are also not the best.

11798
09:51:53,820 --> 09:51:57,500
But like that aside, in my experience,

11799
09:51:57,500 --> 09:52:03,180
what happens is I agree with you,

11800
09:52:03,180 --> 09:52:07,100
you are right in the sense that if you are talking about legal theory,

11801
09:52:07,100 --> 09:52:09,580
it can work,

11802
09:52:09,580 --> 09:52:11,580
you can be precise enough and it can work.

11803
09:52:11,580 --> 09:52:14,540
If you were talking about the application of law,

11804
09:52:14,540 --> 09:52:20,620
it gets root fucking confused because there's no trial court documents,

11805
09:52:20,620 --> 09:52:25,140
or trial court opinions that, well, not none,

11806
09:52:25,140 --> 09:52:29,780
there are very, very, very, very, very few trial court opinions and documents

11807
09:52:29,780 --> 09:52:36,180
in these repositories because it's almost all published opinions are appeals, okay?

11808
09:52:36,180 --> 09:52:39,780
You might get some district court opinions at the federal level,

11809
09:52:39,780 --> 09:52:42,100
but those are usually not worth anything anyways.

11810
09:52:42,100 --> 09:52:45,620
So what will happen is it'll be like, "Hey, how does this work?

11811
09:52:45,620 --> 09:52:47,060
What do I do in this scenario?"

11812
09:52:47,060 --> 09:52:51,300
It'll go, "Oh, here's how a judge rules on that," and you look at it,

11813
09:52:51,300 --> 09:52:53,620
and it's really an appeal of a decision from a lower court.

11814
09:52:53,620 --> 09:52:56,100
It's like, "That's not actually what I need,"

11815
09:52:56,100 --> 09:53:00,980
because getting a decision in an appeal court is very different than in a trial court,

11816
09:53:00,980 --> 09:53:03,300
and in a trial court, you've got different goals and stuff, it's like...

11817
09:53:03,300 --> 09:53:06,260
Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like this is probably some of the worst case use for AI

11818
09:53:06,260 --> 09:53:09,460
because you're literally looking for what might be an exceptional thing,

11819
09:53:09,460 --> 09:53:11,300
or a thing that hasn't even happened yet,

11820
09:53:11,300 --> 09:53:13,220
because especially, that's why I was saying earlier for the Supreme Court,

11821
09:53:13,220 --> 09:53:18,020
it's not like you're at the level of two people might have a politically partisan take on a thing,

11822
09:53:18,020 --> 09:53:21,060
that AI would have a really difficult time potentially predicting,

11823
09:53:21,060 --> 09:53:24,260
maybe, without prompting that is so precise.

11824
09:53:24,260 --> 09:53:26,260
At that point, you might as well be reading the cases

11825
09:53:26,260 --> 09:53:28,180
and having the constitutional background yourself, maybe.

11826
09:53:28,180 --> 09:53:30,900
Right, and that is the other part of this work.

11827
09:53:30,900 --> 09:53:33,780
If you're doing legal research into something,

11828
09:53:33,780 --> 09:53:36,340
you usually don't just want the answer.

11829
09:53:36,340 --> 09:53:38,980
You usually want a lot more than the answer,

11830
09:53:38,980 --> 09:53:42,900
because you're probably not going to find a case that perfectly matches the facts,

11831
09:53:42,900 --> 09:53:45,620
so you're going to find a case that has facts that are close,

11832
09:53:46,420 --> 09:53:48,500
and then you're going to look at the legal analysis and see,

11833
09:53:48,500 --> 09:53:51,060
well, do those facts match with my facts enough,

11834
09:53:51,060 --> 09:53:52,980
or are there differences that I need to address?

11835
09:53:52,980 --> 09:53:55,300
And AI might point those out,

11836
09:53:55,300 --> 09:53:59,380
but there's not a real benefit in my mind to not reading yourself and understanding it,

11837
09:53:59,380 --> 09:54:03,060
because at the end of the day, you're probably going to be in front of a judge arguing it,

11838
09:54:03,060 --> 09:54:05,940
and if you have to look down and read an AI summary to the judge,

11839
09:54:05,940 --> 09:54:10,340
they're going to say, yeah, I'm not doing that, and then just deny it.

11840
09:54:10,340 --> 09:54:12,260
Yeah, I feel like I want to agree with you here,

11841
09:54:12,260 --> 09:54:14,500
and you've got way more experiences, I'll just defer to what you're saying,

11842
09:54:14,500 --> 09:54:15,700
but everything you've described to me,

11843
09:54:15,700 --> 09:54:19,860
based on my personal experiences as a fantasy land, but I will assume that in most cases,

11844
09:54:19,860 --> 09:54:22,820
it's not like this, and people are making coherent legal arguments

11845
09:54:22,820 --> 09:54:25,780
with real cases that they're citing that are actually relevant to what they're talking about,

11846
09:54:25,780 --> 09:54:29,460
and maybe they're even in the same fucking circuit, but in my personal experience,

11847
09:54:29,460 --> 09:54:30,420
that is not the case.

11848
09:54:30,420 --> 09:54:33,460
People are filing random crazy shit all the fucking time, so who knows?

11849
09:54:33,460 --> 09:54:38,900
I'm like you, I'm like you, I'm not afraid to file a motion to recuse on the basis of snarking.

11850
09:54:38,900 --> 09:54:43,540
Okay, all right, that shit out, I know that you're squeamish about that stuff.

11851
09:54:43,540 --> 09:54:47,940
I fucked up there, you're right. Yeah, hey, I mean, first time we ever messaged,

11852
09:54:47,940 --> 09:54:51,460
that's what I said, like get it on file, and you're like, move, but no.

11853
09:54:52,900 --> 09:54:55,700
Yeah, it's like, it's, it's, it's such a weird thing, because like also,

11854
09:54:56,420 --> 09:55:00,340
and I was talking about this with somebody else, we're like, in my area of the law, it's,

11855
09:55:00,000 --> 09:55:05,000
crazy niche and like you could use AI for parts of it,

11856
09:55:05,340 --> 09:55:07,540
but the area of law that I'm in is so niche

11857
09:55:07,540 --> 09:55:12,020
that there are little gaps in like written rules

11858
09:55:12,020 --> 09:55:14,300
and stuff like that and like how you practice

11859
09:55:14,300 --> 09:55:16,580
because it only exists in the heads of lawyers

11860
09:55:16,580 --> 09:55:19,260
that have been doing it for 20 or 30 years, right?

11861
09:55:19,260 --> 09:55:21,700
And it's like you could compile everything you want

11862
09:55:21,700 --> 09:55:24,000
about it into an AI, train it and have it,

11863
09:55:24,000 --> 09:55:25,540
but it would still miss things.

11864
09:55:25,540 --> 09:55:27,420
And that's true of a lot of stuff with litigation

11865
09:55:27,420 --> 09:55:30,260
where it's like I'm not saying it,

11866
09:55:30,260 --> 09:55:32,420
you couldn't codify it and put it into an AI and learn it.

11867
09:55:32,420 --> 09:55:34,700
It's just like, it's just not out there for an AI

11868
09:55:34,700 --> 09:55:35,540
to use and learn.

11869
09:55:35,540 --> 09:55:37,980
So like you will get, if you have like very,

11870
09:55:37,980 --> 09:55:39,880
actually I will agree with you in a sense where it's like

11871
09:55:39,880 --> 09:55:42,180
if you give it like a really, really precise question

11872
09:55:42,180 --> 09:55:45,080
with the context it needs, you can probably get

11873
09:55:45,080 --> 09:55:47,180
that answer back and it can be useful,

11874
09:55:47,180 --> 09:55:49,660
but it's usually like such a small piece compared

11875
09:55:49,660 --> 09:55:51,860
to like a huge other parts of it, right?

11876
09:55:51,860 --> 09:55:54,420
Like if I'm gonna go file something in front of a judge,

11877
09:55:54,420 --> 09:55:56,940
like I wanna know who the judges, what their politics are,

11878
09:55:56,940 --> 09:55:58,900
how they've ruled on stuff like this in the past,

11879
09:55:58,900 --> 09:56:01,540
like what are their local rules, what are their clerk like,

11880
09:56:01,540 --> 09:56:03,900
what's the relationship of the other council with that judge?

11881
09:56:03,900 --> 09:56:06,020
Like those are all gigantic factors that might be as

11882
09:56:06,020 --> 09:56:07,740
or more important than argument as thought.

11883
09:56:07,740 --> 09:56:08,700
- I agree with what you're saying here.

11884
09:56:08,700 --> 09:56:11,140
This might be like relevant or important for like

11885
09:56:11,140 --> 09:56:14,220
a landmark civil rights case or something,

11886
09:56:14,220 --> 09:56:15,380
but everything that you're saying,

11887
09:56:15,380 --> 09:56:18,120
I believe you that the specialized knowledge is important,

11888
09:56:18,120 --> 09:56:19,980
but there's always one factor with new technologies

11889
09:56:19,980 --> 09:56:20,820
that everybody ignores.

11890
09:56:20,820 --> 09:56:22,140
They only focus on the quality,

11891
09:56:22,140 --> 09:56:25,220
they don't focus on the time and the money part.

11892
09:56:25,220 --> 09:56:26,980
So it might be that everything you're saying is fine,

11893
09:56:26,980 --> 09:56:29,620
but if I could theoretically find a series of prompts

11894
09:56:29,620 --> 09:56:32,340
to use for an AI that gets me like 80% of the way there,

11895
09:56:32,340 --> 09:56:35,020
and I can do it for 2% of the cost,

11896
09:56:35,020 --> 09:56:36,620
then I'm firing away at that thing.

11897
09:56:36,620 --> 09:56:39,500
And you might actually win 100% or 90% of your case,

11898
09:56:39,500 --> 09:56:41,380
you might have some insanely high success rate,

11899
09:56:41,380 --> 09:56:44,340
but if my law firm can file however many more of these cases

11900
09:56:44,340 --> 09:56:45,820
and win the majority of them, win enough of them,

11901
09:56:45,820 --> 09:56:48,780
like you're just gonna get outworked so aggressively

11902
09:56:48,780 --> 09:56:50,260
that it's not gonna matter, nobody's gonna want that

11903
09:56:50,260 --> 09:56:51,740
to pay for that little bit more quality

11904
09:56:51,740 --> 09:56:54,300
when they can just churn out so much more volume

11905
09:56:54,300 --> 09:56:55,540
for so much cheaper, I think.

11906
09:56:56,980 --> 09:56:58,460
(chuckling)

11907
09:56:58,460 --> 09:57:02,140
- Well, I actually, I agree with you in most cases,

11908
09:57:02,140 --> 09:57:04,500
with the law, this is kind of the argument

11909
09:57:04,500 --> 09:57:06,380
that I've said around that where it's like,

11910
09:57:06,380 --> 09:57:08,660
if you're a computer programmer and you make,

11911
09:57:08,660 --> 09:57:10,660
if you're Bethesda and you make a video game

11912
09:57:10,660 --> 09:57:13,380
and it ships and 20% of it is all bugs,

11913
09:57:13,380 --> 09:57:15,740
everyone's like, oh, I'll still buy it,

11914
09:57:15,740 --> 09:57:18,740
and they'll patch it and it'll be fine, right?

11915
09:57:18,740 --> 09:57:21,140
You know, if I, and so if you have AI that does,

11916
09:57:21,140 --> 09:57:24,140
you know, the work and it's 80% good,

11917
09:57:24,140 --> 09:57:26,180
like you might get to do 2% of the work

11918
09:57:26,180 --> 09:57:27,940
to ship a product and that's great.

11919
09:57:27,940 --> 09:57:31,980
If you're a lawyer and you submit a,

11920
09:57:31,980 --> 09:57:35,100
if you file a lawsuit and 99% of the cases in it are real

11921
09:57:35,100 --> 09:57:36,980
and 1% aren't, you get disbarred.

11922
09:57:38,020 --> 09:57:38,860
So it's like--

11923
09:57:38,860 --> 09:57:41,100
- I'm again, I wish I'd love you and if that was true

11924
09:57:41,100 --> 09:57:43,060
and you're an area of the law, that might be true,

11925
09:57:43,060 --> 09:57:45,100
but I got fucking AI hallucinated quotes, okay,

11926
09:57:45,100 --> 09:57:46,740
on my side over here and these motherfuckers

11927
09:57:46,740 --> 09:57:48,660
are skipping depositions and it seems like nobody cares,

11928
09:57:48,660 --> 09:57:50,620
so, but maybe, I mean.

11929
09:57:50,620 --> 09:57:53,020
- Look, I'm not, yeah, I'm not gonna speak to your--

11930
09:57:53,020 --> 09:57:53,860
- I'm triggered.

11931
09:57:53,860 --> 09:57:54,980
No, special--

11932
09:57:54,980 --> 09:57:55,820
- Or the government, I mean,

11933
09:57:55,820 --> 09:57:57,780
the government seems to get a lot of leeway in court

11934
09:57:57,780 --> 09:57:59,420
and we've seen these filings or whatever,

11935
09:57:59,420 --> 09:58:01,580
judges need to be way more harsh.

11936
09:58:01,580 --> 09:58:03,100
- I hear you, but like also you,

11937
09:58:03,100 --> 09:58:04,540
I think you're not seeing like,

11938
09:58:04,540 --> 09:58:07,860
I get almost on a daily basis emails from like,

11939
09:58:07,860 --> 09:58:09,900
the fucking ethics committee of my different bars

11940
09:58:09,900 --> 09:58:10,900
that I'm a part of and I'm like,

11941
09:58:10,900 --> 09:58:11,940
here's another fucking person,

11942
09:58:11,940 --> 09:58:13,980
either like sanctioned to hell,

11943
09:58:13,980 --> 09:58:16,180
lost a malpractice lawsuit or got disbarred

11944
09:58:16,180 --> 09:58:17,460
because they were using AI, right?

11945
09:58:17,460 --> 09:58:19,300
Like, I see that constantly.

11946
09:58:19,300 --> 09:58:20,900
It's just not very visible.

11947
09:58:20,900 --> 09:58:23,580
One, and then two, it's kind of a thing where it's like,

11948
09:58:23,580 --> 09:58:28,140
to be more, to address your argument a little bit better,

11949
09:58:28,140 --> 09:58:31,300
I think, is that, let's say I had an AI,

11950
09:58:31,300 --> 09:58:33,740
does 80% of the work on a case for me

11951
09:58:33,740 --> 09:58:34,860
and I do the last 20%.

11952
09:58:34,860 --> 09:58:36,940
Well, the amount of work it takes for me

11953
09:58:36,940 --> 09:58:40,460
to check that 80% is not gonna be too,

11954
09:58:40,460 --> 09:58:41,860
if I'm gonna do my job right,

11955
09:58:41,860 --> 09:58:44,420
it's not gonna be 2% of what I would've done before.

11956
09:58:44,420 --> 09:58:47,100
It might cut it down like, you know,

11957
09:58:47,100 --> 09:58:51,260
to 25% at the best, probably 50% to like,

11958
09:58:51,260 --> 09:58:52,900
reread everything, check all the cases,

11959
09:58:52,900 --> 09:58:55,500
make sure everything's right, you know.

11960
09:58:55,500 --> 09:58:56,340
And that's not nothing.

11961
09:58:56,340 --> 09:58:57,180
That is useful.

11962
09:58:57,180 --> 09:58:59,960
That's why I'm literally doing it right now.

11963
09:58:59,960 --> 09:59:03,180
How that converts is a huge question in the law right now.

11964
09:59:03,180 --> 09:59:06,500
A lot of people think we're gonna be going to flat fee basis

11965
09:59:06,500 --> 09:59:08,140
or continue, a lot of people want us

11966
09:59:08,140 --> 09:59:10,900
to just keep continuing charging the same rates

11967
09:59:10,900 --> 09:59:12,460
and just say, well, these are the reasonable rates

11968
09:59:12,460 --> 09:59:13,300
of what we would charge you,

11969
09:59:13,300 --> 09:59:15,180
even if we're using AI to do the work.

11970
09:59:15,180 --> 09:59:17,580
Because there's a question of like, well, wait a minute.

11971
09:59:17,580 --> 09:59:20,620
If we're getting AI to do less work,

11972
09:59:20,620 --> 09:59:22,180
that means we're charging our clients less.

11973
09:59:22,180 --> 09:59:24,020
So all we're doing is paying for an AI tool

11974
09:59:24,020 --> 09:59:25,500
to make less money off our clients.

11975
09:59:25,500 --> 09:59:27,420
So what's the fucking point, right?

11976
09:59:27,420 --> 09:59:29,140
Where's the, like, that's what I was saying before,

11977
09:59:29,140 --> 09:59:30,060
it's like if the bandwidth,

11978
09:59:30,060 --> 09:59:35,060
if the intake of cases does not, you know,

11979
09:59:36,340 --> 09:59:37,660
balance out, right?

11980
09:59:37,660 --> 09:59:40,020
If I can do all my cases in 25% of the time,

11981
09:59:40,020 --> 09:59:42,460
but I don't have three times as four times

11982
09:59:42,460 --> 09:59:44,740
as many cases coming in, well, all I've done

11983
09:59:44,740 --> 09:59:46,460
is just make it where I'm doing nothing

11984
09:59:46,460 --> 09:59:48,580
for part of my day, where I could have been making money

11985
09:59:48,580 --> 09:59:50,300
before, 'cause I can't build that time.

11986
09:59:50,300 --> 09:59:51,700
- Yeah, I mean, and if that is the case,

11987
09:59:51,700 --> 09:59:52,940
then I mean, I would agree with you.

11988
09:59:52,940 --> 09:59:55,020
I'm just curious if most law firms feel that way,

11989
09:59:55,020 --> 09:59:56,820
where they're like, there's just no clients out there,

11990
09:59:56,820 --> 09:59:59,300
nobody wants to fucking sue anybody in the United States.

11991
09:59:59,300 --> 10:00:00,460
Maybe that is the case.

11992
10:00:00,000 --> 10:00:01,480
If there's some places where there are law firms

11993
10:00:01,480 --> 10:00:03,600
that don't have a lot of work to do, or...

11994
10:00:03,600 --> 10:00:06,640
- The hardest part of any law firm is getting clients.

11995
10:00:06,640 --> 10:00:08,240
That's just like a universal,

11996
10:00:08,240 --> 10:00:11,040
the hardest thing of being a lawyer is getting clients.

11997
10:00:12,040 --> 10:00:13,520
Like that's always.

11998
10:00:13,520 --> 10:00:15,200
So like, that doesn't mean they're not out there,

11999
10:00:15,200 --> 10:00:17,240
but it's just like, that's always something in the mind.

12000
10:00:17,240 --> 10:00:18,080
- Sure.

12001
10:00:18,080 --> 10:00:20,840
- And then also the, I will say this,

12002
10:00:20,840 --> 10:00:23,720
as far as adoption is slow as fuck.

12003
10:00:23,720 --> 10:00:28,080
And what people are adopting is laughably called AI.

12004
10:00:28,080 --> 10:00:30,600
Like, it's like better search engines,

12005
10:00:30,600 --> 10:00:32,920
very crude document drafters.

12006
10:00:34,040 --> 10:00:37,480
Shit like that, very basic research tools.

12007
10:00:37,480 --> 10:00:39,600
I mean, my firm pays way too much money

12008
10:00:39,600 --> 10:00:40,840
for the AI tools we have.

12009
10:00:40,840 --> 10:00:45,040
And like I'm seeing a $20 chat, or a $20 clawed account

12010
10:00:45,040 --> 10:00:48,960
and I'm white years ahead of whatever we're paying for.

12011
10:00:48,960 --> 10:00:51,160
So it's like that, and also it's funny is like,

12012
10:00:51,160 --> 10:00:53,680
there's some, like most partners are 50 and up.

12013
10:00:53,680 --> 10:00:55,000
And so like I've been in a meeting

12014
10:00:55,000 --> 10:00:56,520
where I've been like, they're like talking about

12015
10:00:56,520 --> 10:00:57,680
some problem they're having at the firm.

12016
10:00:57,680 --> 10:00:59,520
Like, oh, we already pay for a tool that I could use

12017
10:00:59,520 --> 10:01:01,800
to make something to fix that problem.

12018
10:01:01,800 --> 10:01:03,560
And they're like, what are you even talking about right now?

12019
10:01:03,560 --> 10:01:07,040
And I was like, this tool that we had a meeting on like,

12020
10:01:07,040 --> 10:01:09,000
two months ago, I know how to use it.

12021
10:01:09,000 --> 10:01:09,840
We could do this thing.

12022
10:01:09,840 --> 10:01:11,680
And they're like, no, we're not going to do that.

12023
10:01:11,680 --> 10:01:12,520
- Sure.

12024
10:01:12,520 --> 10:01:15,520
- So like, adoption for lawyers is pretty rough.

12025
10:01:15,520 --> 10:01:17,520
And also all of those people getting in trouble

12026
10:01:17,520 --> 10:01:20,680
and getting sued and losing money in their bar license

12027
10:01:20,680 --> 10:01:22,560
is also scaring the shit out of so many lawyers

12028
10:01:22,560 --> 10:01:24,120
that they don't want to really touch it.

12029
10:01:24,120 --> 10:01:25,360
But that's more of a temporary thing.

12030
10:01:25,360 --> 10:01:28,040
I think that's going to like as times move on,

12031
10:01:28,040 --> 10:01:28,880
that's going to change.

12032
10:01:28,880 --> 10:01:29,720
- Sure.

12033
10:01:29,720 --> 10:01:30,560
- But yeah, okay.

12034
10:01:30,560 --> 10:01:31,400
Well, thanks.

12035
10:01:31,400 --> 10:01:34,520
I just thought I'd come in at the tail end of this

12036
10:01:34,520 --> 10:01:35,360
- Wait.

12037
10:01:35,360 --> 10:01:36,720
- Which range, rate, night thing.

12038
10:01:36,720 --> 10:01:37,920
What's up?

12039
10:01:37,920 --> 10:01:39,680
- I want to ask you a question.

12040
10:01:39,680 --> 10:01:41,160
- Okay.

12041
10:01:41,160 --> 10:01:42,760
- It's a legal question.

12042
10:01:42,760 --> 10:01:45,720
I don't want legal advice, but I'm just curious.

12043
10:01:45,720 --> 10:01:47,760
Do you know anything about immigration law

12044
10:01:47,760 --> 10:01:50,160
or like US citizenship stuff?

12045
10:01:50,160 --> 10:01:52,040
- I know a little bit about it.

12046
10:01:52,040 --> 10:01:53,240
- Okay.

12047
10:01:53,240 --> 10:01:54,560
So my mom's American.

12048
10:01:54,560 --> 10:01:56,320
She was born and raised in America.

12049
10:01:56,320 --> 10:01:58,080
And then when she married my dad in the 70s,

12050
10:01:58,080 --> 10:01:59,320
she moved to Canada.

12051
10:01:59,320 --> 10:02:00,640
I was born in Canada.

12052
10:02:00,640 --> 10:02:02,360
Am I also a US citizen?

12053
10:02:02,360 --> 10:02:04,480
'Cause apparently I am according to chat GPT

12054
10:02:04,480 --> 10:02:06,880
or I probably could be if I fill out the form.

12055
10:02:06,880 --> 10:02:07,720
Apparently I--

12056
10:02:07,720 --> 10:02:10,040
- Is that have you claimed American citizenship?

12057
10:02:10,040 --> 10:02:12,120
- Yeah, I'm entitled to claim American citizenship

12058
10:02:12,120 --> 10:02:13,680
apparently because my mom's American.

12059
10:02:13,680 --> 10:02:15,120
- That's not citizenship.

12060
10:02:15,120 --> 10:02:17,760
But there's probably some, how old are you?

12061
10:02:17,760 --> 10:02:19,160
Sorry, if you don't want to issue that, that's fine.

12062
10:02:19,160 --> 10:02:21,760
Are you a minor?

12063
10:02:21,760 --> 10:02:23,040
- No, I'm not.

12064
10:02:23,040 --> 10:02:26,440
- Okay, I was born in 1984, so I'm not.

12065
10:02:26,440 --> 10:02:27,280
Yeah, I'm--

12066
10:02:27,280 --> 10:02:28,120
- Wow.

12067
10:02:28,120 --> 10:02:29,200
- But yeah, I know.

12068
10:02:29,200 --> 10:02:32,680
- Okay, yeah, there's, I mean, I believe there's a process

12069
10:02:32,680 --> 10:02:35,240
for you to claim that citizenship.

12070
10:02:35,240 --> 10:02:37,080
I haven't dealt with that claim.

12071
10:02:37,080 --> 10:02:39,760
I've mostly dealt with, I've dealt with like

12072
10:02:39,760 --> 10:02:44,200
marriage green cards, H1Bs, an extraordinary,

12073
10:02:45,720 --> 10:02:48,200
there was a extraordinary talent green cards.

12074
10:02:48,200 --> 10:02:49,960
Those are pretty wild.

12075
10:02:49,960 --> 10:02:52,160
- There's extraordinary talent green cards?

12076
10:02:53,240 --> 10:02:55,760
- Yeah, so like if you can, you, so what like,

12077
10:02:55,760 --> 10:02:57,480
this is like one of the first things I ever did

12078
10:02:57,480 --> 10:02:59,680
in the law was like, what happens is like,

12079
10:02:59,680 --> 10:03:02,840
there's a person, they've got like amazing talent

12080
10:03:02,840 --> 10:03:04,800
in any field, literally any, I was doing it for like

12081
10:03:04,800 --> 10:03:08,800
chefs, for fuck sake, but it was for Owen Visas.

12082
10:03:08,800 --> 10:03:11,200
I didn't know there were green cards for it.

12083
10:03:11,200 --> 10:03:13,160
- Yeah, like you can get as high as a,

12084
10:03:13,160 --> 10:03:16,000
I believe it's like you, you get that visa

12085
10:03:16,000 --> 10:03:17,720
and then you can then--

12086
10:03:17,720 --> 10:03:18,560
- Oh, if you have--

12087
10:03:18,560 --> 10:03:20,080
- That puts you on track for a green card.

12088
10:03:20,080 --> 10:03:20,920
- Okay, okay.

12089
10:03:20,920 --> 10:03:23,720
- It's like it puts you on a green card track.

12090
10:03:23,720 --> 10:03:26,120
So it's like, so what would happen is like,

12091
10:03:26,120 --> 10:03:28,560
I worked for this firm, it was like contract work.

12092
10:03:28,560 --> 10:03:30,200
They would just, they would, I would just like show up,

12093
10:03:30,200 --> 10:03:32,200
they would hand me literally like,

12094
10:03:32,200 --> 10:03:37,200
like maybe 1500 pages of this person's like life.

12095
10:03:37,640 --> 10:03:40,160
And then I would have to summarize all of it

12096
10:03:40,160 --> 10:03:44,560
in like 20 pages and then they would submit that.

12097
10:03:44,560 --> 10:03:45,960
And it was, it was wild.

12098
10:03:45,960 --> 10:03:48,080
It was like, pretty crazy.

12099
10:03:48,080 --> 10:03:50,720
It wasn't, it was, this was back during Biden.

12100
10:03:50,720 --> 10:03:53,120
So they would grant them like, and I was just like,

12101
10:03:53,120 --> 10:03:55,120
yeah, this guy's a really good fucking chef.

12102
10:03:55,120 --> 10:03:56,880
We should, we should have him in the country.

12103
10:03:56,880 --> 10:03:58,400
And they're like, all right, that's fair.

12104
10:03:59,880 --> 10:04:01,680
And then yeah, that was, that was good money.

12105
10:04:01,680 --> 10:04:06,200
But now the claiming American citizenship,

12106
10:04:06,200 --> 10:04:08,360
though you need to be careful because I can't remember

12107
10:04:08,360 --> 10:04:11,800
if this is still a thing, but I thought it was the case

12108
10:04:11,800 --> 10:04:13,480
that like you're not supposed to be a dual citizen

12109
10:04:13,480 --> 10:04:14,760
if you're American, like they don't like it

12110
10:04:14,760 --> 10:04:17,360
if you're a dual citizen or something along those lines.

12111
10:04:17,360 --> 10:04:18,680
Can't remember exactly what that rule is.

12112
10:04:18,680 --> 10:04:19,760
- I mean, my mom is--

12113
10:04:19,760 --> 10:04:21,560
- She says, she says you're a US citizenship.

12114
10:04:21,560 --> 10:04:22,960
- I think it still has a teacher.

12115
10:04:22,960 --> 10:04:25,480
- I think it's what they don't, they don't recognize it.

12116
10:04:25,480 --> 10:04:26,320
Is that what it is?

12117
10:04:26,320 --> 10:04:27,760
They don't, the American government technically

12118
10:04:27,760 --> 10:04:29,600
doesn't recognize whether or not you're a dual citizen.

12119
10:04:29,600 --> 10:04:31,200
They're just like, fuck you, you're American.

12120
10:04:31,200 --> 10:04:33,080
- I think they make you pay taxes if you move abroad,

12121
10:04:33,080 --> 10:04:34,360
even if you get another citizenship.

12122
10:04:34,360 --> 10:04:35,560
- Oh, maybe that's what it is.

12123
10:04:35,560 --> 10:04:36,800
Maybe it's like, yeah, you're abroad

12124
10:04:36,800 --> 10:04:38,000
and they still make you pay taxes.

12125
10:04:38,000 --> 10:04:39,200
That's what it is.

12126
10:04:39,200 --> 10:04:41,000
- Unless you have a tax treaty with the country

12127
10:04:41,000 --> 10:04:43,720
that you move to, apparently I wouldn't have to pay taxes

12128
10:04:43,720 --> 10:04:45,720
'cause Canada and the US have a tax treaty,

12129
10:04:45,720 --> 10:04:46,560
but I would have to have--

12130
10:04:46,560 --> 10:04:48,560
- You have to do like the extension, exactly, yeah.

12131
10:04:48,560 --> 10:04:50,040
- And that's only up to a certain amount of money.

12132
10:04:50,040 --> 10:04:52,440
I think it's like in the low, like 150K or something.

12133
10:04:52,440 --> 10:04:54,240
I might be making that up.

12134
10:04:54,240 --> 10:04:56,400
- I can't give tax advice, so I can't do that conversation.

12135
10:04:56,400 --> 10:04:59,240
- Yeah, probably, although I wouldn't be making that much,

12136
10:04:59,240 --> 10:05:00,060
but yeah.

12137
10:05:00,000 --> 10:05:04,980
Yeah, I thank God I'm born in America and staying in America so not to deal with any of that

12138
10:05:05,580 --> 10:05:13,900
Overseas crap, but okay. I'm a thanks for talking me. Hope that you know, you're not destroying your sleep schedule with this overnight stream

12139
10:05:16,420 --> 10:05:20,540
Where are you going off? What are you going off camera to do? Oh

12140
10:05:21,100 --> 10:05:23,540
my last wrap bro

12141
10:05:24,500 --> 10:05:30,820
So I'm rebuilding a just my little mobile rack. It's just it has all my fucking stupid shit in it. So the

12142
10:05:33,980 --> 10:05:37,540
I will say my really enjoyed equipment

12143
10:05:42,340 --> 10:05:44,340
I will say I really enjoyed

12144
10:05:45,620 --> 10:05:52,260
You reacting to things, but then like pulling away from the mic and just hearing you quietly the background going like

12145
10:05:53,220 --> 10:05:59,340
But like very faintly it reminds me of like one of a billboard does that stand up? So it's a good bit. Thanks

12146
10:05:59,340 --> 10:06:01,340
I try to make it. Yeah

12147
10:06:02,180 --> 10:06:06,560
All right, well, I don't have you guys you have a good rest of your day. I gotta get to work. How about I

12148
10:06:07,400 --> 10:06:09,400
like

12149
10:06:09,860 --> 10:06:15,380
Will fuck is what actually is all that what oh you were fine. I say what the fuck is mr.

12150
10:06:15,380 --> 10:06:16,140
Mootenet

12151
10:06:16,140 --> 10:06:21,380
It's just my it's for my mobile streams when I go to events and stuff. It's all like my microphones and my cameras all that

12152
10:06:22,260 --> 10:06:24,140
Are you still using that?

12153
10:06:24,140 --> 10:06:30,540
Was it a barringer the old mixer that you were using like back in 2017 your audio mixer or do you have a new one now?

12154
10:06:30,540 --> 10:06:32,540
No, I have an army interface

12155
10:06:34,020 --> 10:06:39,500
RME interface I don't know what that is. I'm sorry. I'm army is the brand the interface is called fire face

12156
10:06:39,500 --> 10:06:43,280
You see x2 looks like you plug the mic in and then it goes into your computer

12157
10:06:44,780 --> 10:06:49,300
Okay, and you're still using it for your two computers. I was wondering I was thinking maybe I don't know

12158
10:06:49,300 --> 10:06:52,940
Maybe I might get something like that one day cuz I'm using a laptop to stream

12159
10:06:52,940 --> 10:06:57,380
And then I'm using my regular computer to do everything. I have the same setup that you do so

12160
10:06:58,540 --> 10:07:03,980
You I would yeah, these are all really expensive. This is like a fifteen hundred dollar - microphone interface

12161
10:07:03,980 --> 10:07:07,740
I don't know if you want to buy this for if you're dual streaming a laptop and a computer

12162
10:07:07,740 --> 10:07:09,740
I feel like an ordinary interface should be fine now

12163
10:07:11,220 --> 10:07:17,380
Yeah, potentially listen, I don't know fuck all about this. Okay. I think I asked the AI some questions and why are you using it?

12164
10:07:17,940 --> 10:07:19,940
Why use two computers as he's one computer

12165
10:07:21,420 --> 10:07:26,380
Because then I can't play video games even though the computer that I have is well

12166
10:07:26,380 --> 10:07:29,820
It's because it's a ten-year-old computer once I build a new computer. It'll probably be fine

12167
10:07:30,580 --> 10:07:36,900
You know once I drop three thousand dollars on a brand new computer because ram fuck my life

12168
10:07:36,900 --> 10:07:42,460
But yeah, you better do that shit fast cuz all these ais are eating up all the hardware

12169
10:07:44,500 --> 10:07:50,860
Yeah, I don't know if the AI thing is gonna last as long as or be what everyone thinks it is

12170
10:07:50,860 --> 10:07:57,660
But I mean, we'll see I've been hearing much different much less optimistic things from people that I know about this but from in what professions

12171
10:07:59,660 --> 10:08:06,900
Oh, well, no, it's just the some of the people who have been talking about this are people who have apparently there's some journalists or people

12172
10:08:06,900 --> 10:08:10,420
Who follow AI really closely who have been saying other stuff like the fact that?

12173
10:08:11,420 --> 10:08:17,900
Like none of these companies are profitable apparently and yeah, it's like new tech. They're like accelerating adoption

12174
10:08:17,900 --> 10:08:21,500
It's like fucking every tech company now is run like a VC

12175
10:08:23,300 --> 10:08:27,820
Any or like a startup basically where you're just like burning through cash to try to do customer acquisition and get all the

12176
10:08:27,820 --> 10:08:29,820
actual revenue in place before you make money like

12177
10:08:30,780 --> 10:08:32,780
Which is this what it is, but I mean

12178
10:08:33,340 --> 10:08:35,340
I'd be surprised to see all of it just like 180

12179
10:08:36,820 --> 10:08:43,660
It probably won't 180. I don't know. I need to look into this more. Okay. Like I just sometimes I'll have conversations on my stream with a couple

12180
10:08:43,660 --> 10:08:47,660
Different people and they'll talk about this, but I'm I haven't really looked into it a lot

12181
10:08:47,660 --> 10:08:53,100
I I think it used to be that a lot of the shit that we were asking AI to do was

12182
10:08:53,300 --> 10:08:56,580
Actually costing open AI way more money than what we paid for it

12183
10:08:56,580 --> 10:08:58,940
I don't know if that's still true for example

12184
10:08:58,940 --> 10:09:04,380
But I I don't know people are saying we're in a bubble and eventually that bubble will burst and some of these companies may

12185
10:09:04,380 --> 10:09:09,960
Go bankrupt and disappear because they are they like have gotten so many investments

12186
10:09:09,960 --> 10:09:12,060
And they haven't really delivered returns on their investments

12187
10:09:12,060 --> 10:09:16,660
And also they're talking about delivering AGI and they keep saying AGI is coming guys

12188
10:09:16,660 --> 10:09:20,700
We're almost there. We're gonna do it with this next model and then they don't and yeah

12189
10:09:20,700 --> 10:09:23,020
I don't know if you know what AGI is or any of that shit

12190
10:09:23,880 --> 10:09:27,520
We don't need AGI for for any of the answers to be profitable

12191
10:09:27,860 --> 10:09:29,860
I would say that the I agree

12192
10:09:30,260 --> 10:09:36,060
The when people talk about bubbles bubbles are a matter of timing not just a prediction that at some point the market will correct

12193
10:09:36,060 --> 10:09:39,340
The bubble is a pointless prediction if there's not like a time value attached to it

12194
10:09:39,340 --> 10:09:42,620
So for the people to scream bubble bubble bubble bubble bubble and then 15 years now

12195
10:09:42,620 --> 10:09:44,380
I bought a bubble pad. I told you it doesn't matter

12196
10:09:44,380 --> 10:09:47,860
It doesn't mean anything bubbles are a matter of timing the market contractions

12197
10:09:47,860 --> 10:09:51,660
And so people been saying the AI shit is gonna burst. I felt like the past like three years now and

12198
10:09:52,180 --> 10:09:56,780
Maybe well eventually, but you know see who's putting their money with their mouth is it doesn't seem like it is any time soon

12199
10:09:57,140 --> 10:09:59,140
What yeah, I don't know

12200
10:09:59,140 --> 10:09:59,980
- Yeah.

12201
10:10:00,000 --> 10:10:03,080
- Well, rip my ram prices until then.

12202
10:10:03,080 --> 10:10:03,920
- True.

12203
10:10:04,960 --> 10:10:07,680
- I have one more question for you and then I will go,

12204
10:10:07,680 --> 10:10:10,000
actually I have two, first of all,

12205
10:10:10,000 --> 10:10:12,320
how many red bulls have you had today?

12206
10:10:12,320 --> 10:10:13,160
- Only two.

12207
10:10:15,240 --> 10:10:16,720
I woke up like-- - Is it to help you stay awake?

12208
10:10:16,720 --> 10:10:17,680
- Seven p.m.

12209
10:10:17,680 --> 10:10:18,880
No, caffeine doesn't do fuck off for me,

12210
10:10:18,880 --> 10:10:21,480
I just said it 'cause it helps me not eat anything.

12211
10:10:22,480 --> 10:10:24,320
- Oh, okay.

12212
10:10:24,320 --> 10:10:28,120
Oh, so your sleep schedule's already fucked, okay.

12213
10:10:28,120 --> 10:10:28,960
- Yep.

12214
10:10:28,960 --> 10:10:29,800
- A trip.

12215
10:10:31,240 --> 10:10:33,040
The other thing that I was wondering is,

12216
10:10:33,040 --> 10:10:35,680
I noticed you were a lot more doomer a while ago,

12217
10:10:35,680 --> 10:10:40,080
like I think during the first year of Trump number two,

12218
10:10:40,080 --> 10:10:42,020
you were like, you know,

12219
10:10:42,020 --> 10:10:45,040
I wanna, I'm so close to Fed posting

12220
10:10:45,040 --> 10:10:47,040
and you seem to think that like everything

12221
10:10:47,040 --> 10:10:48,640
was going off the deep end,

12222
10:10:48,640 --> 10:10:51,680
but now you've kind of moved on to,

12223
10:10:51,680 --> 10:10:53,000
Trump's gonna be gone,

12224
10:10:53,000 --> 10:10:55,040
mega is gonna be over,

12225
10:10:55,040 --> 10:10:57,720
and you're not doomering about that anymore,

12226
10:10:57,720 --> 10:10:59,920
and you're talking about like how

12227
10:10:59,920 --> 10:11:01,400
it's not necessarily imperative

12228
10:11:01,400 --> 10:11:03,760
that you beat the Republicans in the midterms

12229
10:11:03,760 --> 10:11:05,400
'cause you don't think it's gonna change that much

12230
10:11:05,400 --> 10:11:06,560
and all this other kind of shit.

12231
10:11:06,560 --> 10:11:07,400
What changed--

12232
10:11:07,400 --> 10:11:08,560
- Well, I'm not mega being over,

12233
10:11:08,560 --> 10:11:10,080
it's not saying I'm no longer doomer,

12234
10:11:10,080 --> 10:11:12,160
I just think that we lost the fight against mega,

12235
10:11:12,160 --> 10:11:13,680
I think we have to look ahead to the next thing that's coming,

12236
10:11:13,680 --> 10:11:15,800
there could potentially be a whole lot more spooky,

12237
10:11:15,800 --> 10:11:17,800
like I think a Vance thing is,

12238
10:11:17,800 --> 10:11:20,120
Vance represents a very scary strain of thought

12239
10:11:20,120 --> 10:11:21,680
because he's much more intelligent than Trump,

12240
10:11:21,680 --> 10:11:23,280
and I think there's a very real fear

12241
10:11:23,280 --> 10:11:25,960
that you're, we actually merge the horseshoe

12242
10:11:25,960 --> 10:11:29,520
and your Hassan Piker marks his left people,

12243
10:11:29,520 --> 10:11:30,880
it starts to look way more favorably

12244
10:11:30,880 --> 10:11:32,840
upon your Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens,

12245
10:11:32,840 --> 10:11:33,880
far right people,

12246
10:11:33,880 --> 10:11:35,880
and there's some unholy anti-establishment union

12247
10:11:35,880 --> 10:11:37,480
powered by all the horrible social media shit

12248
10:11:37,480 --> 10:11:38,320
that exists today,

12249
10:11:38,320 --> 10:11:39,960
that becomes a much more prominent force,

12250
10:11:39,960 --> 10:11:41,560
collectively in American politics,

12251
10:11:41,560 --> 10:11:43,680
these would be bad things.

12252
10:11:43,680 --> 10:11:46,000
- That, yeah, I mean, yeah, I agree with that.

12253
10:11:46,000 --> 10:11:47,520
I don't know if that'll happen or not,

12254
10:11:47,520 --> 10:11:48,600
I want to think that it won't,

12255
10:11:48,600 --> 10:11:49,440
but I mean, fuck,

12256
10:11:49,440 --> 10:11:51,560
I thought Trump would never get elected the first time,

12257
10:11:51,560 --> 10:11:53,400
I think we all thought that, so.

12258
10:11:53,400 --> 10:11:55,400
- Especially the second time, what the fuck?

12259
10:11:56,200 --> 10:12:00,280
- Yeah, that was a lot more ridiculous.

12260
10:12:00,280 --> 10:12:02,960
I think a lot of people lost faith

12261
10:12:02,960 --> 10:12:04,840
in the American people at that point,

12262
10:12:06,720 --> 10:12:10,400
but I, okay, so you're not,

12263
10:12:10,400 --> 10:12:11,520
because yeah, I don't know,

12264
10:12:11,520 --> 10:12:13,240
it seemed like you were way more out,

12265
10:12:13,240 --> 10:12:14,640
but I guess you just kind of decided,

12266
10:12:14,640 --> 10:12:18,000
or came to the conclusion that mega won already,

12267
10:12:18,000 --> 10:12:20,880
and that like, 'cause now you seem to be much more focused

12268
10:12:20,880 --> 10:12:22,360
on the socialist shit,

12269
10:12:22,360 --> 10:12:23,680
which I don't necessarily mind,

12270
10:12:23,680 --> 10:12:25,520
I think that's a really important fight to have,

12271
10:12:25,520 --> 10:12:27,720
like, I'm out there every day,

12272
10:12:27,720 --> 10:12:31,240
arguing with brain dead populists in my chat,

12273
10:12:31,240 --> 10:12:32,840
like, I don't even have that big of a stream,

12274
10:12:32,840 --> 10:12:34,800
and even there there too, so.

12275
10:12:34,800 --> 10:12:36,000
- The socialist fight is important

12276
10:12:36,000 --> 10:12:37,480
because it helps us define ourselves,

12277
10:12:37,480 --> 10:12:38,880
it helps us define who we are,

12278
10:12:38,880 --> 10:12:40,400
and Democrats don't have a strong identity right now,

12279
10:12:40,400 --> 10:12:42,080
it's constantly being defined by the right,

12280
10:12:42,080 --> 10:12:44,320
or it's being wrestled away from us by the far left,

12281
10:12:44,320 --> 10:12:46,400
so through the fight with the far left,

12282
10:12:46,400 --> 10:12:49,520
we solidify and forge our identity more,

12283
10:12:49,520 --> 10:12:52,600
so that's why the fighting with the left is important, I think.

12284
10:12:52,600 --> 10:12:55,400
- Yeah, no, I agree, I'm glad you're doing that more too,

12285
10:12:55,400 --> 10:12:56,960
I'm glad that everybody is doing that more,

12286
10:12:56,960 --> 10:12:58,800
'cause fuck those people.

12287
10:12:58,800 --> 10:13:00,920
And I, there's actually other stuff

12288
10:13:00,920 --> 10:13:02,200
that I've really been worried about lately,

12289
10:13:02,200 --> 10:13:04,640
the anti-Semitism shit is kind of frightening,

12290
10:13:04,640 --> 10:13:07,480
I got like a bunch of Jews in my audience,

12291
10:13:07,480 --> 10:13:10,080
and like, Jews are turning away from the Democratic Party,

12292
10:13:10,080 --> 10:13:12,520
and I mean, unfortunately, part of that is because of people

12293
10:13:12,520 --> 10:13:14,960
like El Syed and Mom Donnie as well too,

12294
10:13:14,960 --> 10:13:17,280
even though I know, it's so hard for me to like,

12295
10:13:17,280 --> 10:13:19,360
sit here and say this, because, you know,

12296
10:13:19,360 --> 10:13:21,560
like, fuck my Rogers, but also,

12297
10:13:21,560 --> 10:13:23,480
Jesus fucking Christ, dude, if you're Jewish,

12298
10:13:23,480 --> 10:13:26,160
I don't know if I could be like, you should go vote

12299
10:13:26,160 --> 10:13:28,320
for El Syed after all the shit that he has said,

12300
10:13:28,320 --> 10:13:31,400
and all the fucking APAC shit, and the, it's like--

12301
10:13:31,400 --> 10:13:34,520
- The Jew shit is cooked, you just have to, unfortunately,

12302
10:13:34,520 --> 10:13:36,400
we love our Jewish people, but they're gone, okay,

12303
10:13:36,400 --> 10:13:39,160
eject them, Netanyahu will win the next set of elections,

12304
10:13:39,160 --> 10:13:42,280
and they're just, we love you, but goodbye,

12305
10:13:42,280 --> 10:13:44,960
goodbye my friendly Jewish people, that's it.

12306
10:13:44,960 --> 10:13:48,320
- But, okay, I mean, the thing that bothers me

12307
10:13:48,320 --> 10:13:50,320
is the double standard, none of the shit

12308
10:13:50,320 --> 10:13:52,280
that these people ever say, like with regards

12309
10:13:52,280 --> 10:13:53,960
to Jewish people, none of these, if they said

12310
10:13:53,960 --> 10:13:55,520
any of this about black people,

12311
10:13:55,520 --> 10:13:58,600
everyone would be really fucking mad.

12312
10:13:58,600 --> 10:13:59,760
- Well, there's not like, there's not like,

12313
10:13:59,760 --> 10:14:03,120
the country of black people, like, there is Israel,

12314
10:14:03,120 --> 10:14:05,960
but, fuck's over all the Jewish people,

12315
10:14:05,960 --> 10:14:08,160
and then Jewish people are just such an easy,

12316
10:14:08,160 --> 10:14:12,520
and like, with populism, populism attracts like retards,

12317
10:14:12,520 --> 10:14:15,320
and anti-Semitism, all the bigotry, anti-Semitism,

12318
10:14:15,320 --> 10:14:17,880
more than sexism, more than homophobia,

12319
10:14:17,880 --> 10:14:20,320
more than any other bigotry, anti-Semitism just attracts

12320
10:14:20,320 --> 10:14:21,480
the bottom of the barrel retards,

12321
10:14:21,480 --> 10:14:22,320
'cause it's just so nice,

12322
10:14:22,320 --> 10:14:25,360
'cause anti-Semitism just explains so many bad things

12323
10:14:25,360 --> 10:14:26,600
about society, there's only so many things

12324
10:14:26,600 --> 10:14:28,360
you can blame on women, and gay people,

12325
10:14:28,360 --> 10:14:30,600
and trans people, what, would fucking Jews?

12326
10:14:30,600 --> 10:14:32,120
Every single thing can be blamed on them,

12327
10:14:32,120 --> 10:14:33,680
so, I don't know, it's a very attractive group

12328
10:14:33,680 --> 10:14:35,480
of people to hate right now.

12329
10:14:35,480 --> 10:14:38,340
- It's the Jews, oh, hey, it's Mr. Mountain.

12330
10:14:39,280 --> 10:14:40,960
- You want from me, man.

12331
10:14:40,960 --> 10:14:42,620
- Well, look who it is.

12332
10:14:44,160 --> 10:14:45,720
- He was complaining, he was wondering,

12333
10:14:45,720 --> 10:14:48,120
he was like, where the fuck is mutinat earlier?

12334
10:14:48,120 --> 10:14:50,120
- Yeah, I was fucking taking an amp.

12335
10:14:50,120 --> 10:14:51,760
- I was like, what, you mean sleeping?

12336
10:14:51,760 --> 10:14:52,600
You were sleeping.

12337
10:14:52,600 --> 10:14:53,440
What are you taking an amp?

12338
10:14:53,440 --> 10:14:54,280
- I was sleeping.

12339
10:14:56,200 --> 10:14:58,960
- Goddamn it, I can't tear, just fell on my food.

12340
10:14:58,960 --> 10:14:59,800
- Whoa.

12341
10:15:00,000 --> 10:15:06,480
milk my coffee that happens to me all the time you have the stare down when you're

12342
10:15:06,480 --> 10:15:10,440
at like a restaurant and you like the server hands you some food and there's

12343
10:15:10,440 --> 10:15:13,620
like a hair on the plate and he and you both look at it the same time and he

12344
10:15:13,620 --> 10:15:16,560
looks at you and you look at him and he's like thinking is this the kind of

12345
10:15:16,560 --> 10:15:20,720
customer's gonna ask for a whole new fucking meal I have never had that never

12346
10:15:20,720 --> 10:15:24,600
had that feeling before I've had the food but I've never had like me and the

12347
10:15:24,600 --> 10:15:27,660
guys staring at each other oh it's a feeling they look at you they're

12348
10:15:27,660 --> 10:15:30,840
feeling it when I show food that was the things like fuck wiser hair in this

12349
10:15:30,840 --> 10:15:33,280
plate and it's like is this guy about to complain and have his whole fucking

12350
10:15:33,280 --> 10:15:37,720
it was like a 50/50 to a lot of people like there's a goddamn hair on my plate

12351
10:15:37,720 --> 10:15:41,880
get this get just out of here I need the whole thing refire I just take it out

12352
10:15:41,880 --> 10:15:49,660
okay let's look like a pew bear then I keep it in

12353
10:15:49,660 --> 10:15:59,320
classrooms house peach mr. moon is she doing better she's dead we don't talk

12354
10:15:59,320 --> 10:16:10,280
about her anymore what what I'm waiting for her husband to answer you

12355
10:16:10,280 --> 10:16:20,360
stepped away oh okay then but she's fine she's living well that's something other

12356
10:16:20,360 --> 10:16:25,660
last night I guess I don't know maybe that never mind you kickjads popping it

12357
10:16:25,660 --> 10:16:34,680
out yeah let's go did you do chat down you got to experience the true this is

12358
10:16:34,680 --> 10:16:38,200
what happens when everybody takes and takes and takes okay and nobody gives

12359
10:16:38,200 --> 10:16:42,960
PHP was vulnerable and they were waiting for the community to actually put in

12360
10:16:42,960 --> 10:16:46,840
some fucking work instead of everybody stealing this is why open source is a

12361
10:16:46,840 --> 10:16:51,760
failure and we're all moving to proprietary Claude made software it's your

12362
10:16:51,760 --> 10:16:55,960
fault because you guys are takers all of your takers in society and none of you

12363
10:16:55,960 --> 10:16:59,720
are givers just you're just trying to just trying to trigger me right now aren't

12364
10:16:59,720 --> 10:17:04,960
you oh what are you another taker and open source taker you're a forker a

12365
10:17:04,960 --> 10:17:09,220
forker and a taker that's what you are what was the last one was the last

12366
10:17:09,220 --> 10:17:18,520
contribution you made to your just true excuse me I run a repository for for the

12367
10:17:18,520 --> 10:17:23,680
distribution that I use okay and I have a batch program that I wrote on my own

12368
10:17:23,680 --> 10:17:29,160
before AI goes a thing that automatically compiles package or like the updates to

12369
10:17:29,160 --> 10:17:32,880
packages every fucking night and then it uploads them to the web server that I

12370
10:17:32,880 --> 10:17:39,760
have in my office okay I contribute to my community I am not a taker wow an

12371
10:17:39,760 --> 10:17:44,040
auto compiler uploader thing really are you making any of the things that are

12372
10:17:44,040 --> 10:17:49,600
being compiled you wrote a you read a 12 line batch script and you think you

12373
10:17:49,600 --> 10:17:55,720
get credit for that really wow good job nice good one I'm gonna have Claude I

12374
10:17:55,720 --> 10:17:58,320
might have called you know what give me the just give me the IP of your web

12375
10:17:58,320 --> 10:18:01,880
server I'm gonna have Claude break into it and I'm gonna optimize your script for

12376
10:18:01,880 --> 10:18:07,880
you right now okay I actually I should have Chechi PT look at my

12377
10:18:07,880 --> 10:18:13,920
bash script I'm really good at actually it's more than what it's like it's like

12378
10:18:13,920 --> 10:18:18,040
a whole bunch of different files it's it's not really complicated but yeah I

12379
10:18:18,040 --> 10:18:22,120
should have I should have Chechi PT look at my shit cuz Chechi PT is actually

12380
10:18:22,120 --> 10:18:25,560
really good at troubleshooting things like I installed the desktop app and I

12381
10:18:25,560 --> 10:18:29,880
and I asked you a question I was like my computer's been freezing can you like

12382
10:18:29,880 --> 10:18:32,920
tell me what to do to look at that and then it goes running commands and it

12383
10:18:32,920 --> 10:18:37,260
just fucking went and looked at the logs for me and I was like oh okay I guess

12384
10:18:37,260 --> 10:18:43,880
it could it it'll just do stuff and I don't even need to do the stuff damn so

12385
10:18:43,880 --> 10:18:48,320
by the way destiny if you ever decide to change from Windows to Linux I'm here

12386
10:18:48,320 --> 10:18:53,400
for his name Stephen okay oh yes you're right yes dear leader I'll think about

12387
10:18:53,400 --> 10:18:59,480
that okay mm-hmm it's actually really good like I most video games can be

12388
10:18:59,480 --> 10:19:06,560
played on it now most yeah you can play Minecraft what have you been up to

12389
10:19:06,560 --> 10:19:11,840
Steve I don't know watching horrible videos and just getting mad at everything

12390
10:19:11,840 --> 10:19:15,400
classic watching Hassan talked to Professor Dave was probably the

12391
10:19:15,400 --> 10:19:21,440
saddest thing I've ever seen in my entire life oh my god yeah I saw just like he

12392
10:19:21,440 --> 10:19:23,720
doesn't know any science things at all I could tell Professor Dave wanted to kill

12393
10:19:23,720 --> 10:19:26,440
himself halfway through because he's literally just like it's not just like

12394
10:19:26,440 --> 10:19:29,800
doing science misinformation and I don't know he's not even aware of it because

12395
10:19:29,800 --> 10:19:35,640
he's so stupid oh my god the Chinese propaganda he was literally doing fucking

12396
10:19:35,640 --> 10:19:39,320
TCM propaganda yeah he's like look at these seven stories he's like what about

12397
10:19:39,320 --> 10:19:42,520
the bone glue from China isn't this crazy and press is like yeah I don't know

12398
10:19:42,520 --> 10:19:45,440
anything about like what about this thing from China isn't as crazy oh my god

12399
10:19:45,440 --> 10:19:50,960
dude so fucking cringe by the way just I don't know I'm sure everyone is aware

12400
10:19:50,960 --> 10:19:53,800
of this but in case they're not I've been I've been learning a whole bunch of

12401
10:19:53,800 --> 10:19:57,480
China recently I think maybe I might talk because nobody talks about China but

12402
10:19:57,480 --> 10:20:01,640
like China's PPE

12403
10:20:00,000 --> 10:20:02,080
and all the shit that they gave during COVID

12404
10:20:02,080 --> 10:20:03,560
in order to like try and do soft power,

12405
10:20:03,560 --> 10:20:05,440
it was all fucking trash.

12406
10:20:05,440 --> 10:20:08,720
All the PPE that they gave to countries for free was garbage.

12407
10:20:08,720 --> 10:20:11,760
And like, it failed or there were problems with it,

12408
10:20:11,760 --> 10:20:13,480
like the masks and the other shit that they gave out.

12409
10:20:13,480 --> 10:20:15,560
Their vaccine was fucking trash.

12410
10:20:15,560 --> 10:20:19,080
And, but I like, I guess Hassan's just, yeah,

12411
10:20:19,080 --> 10:20:21,640
he doesn't know any of that.

12412
10:20:21,640 --> 10:20:22,560
Or oh no, wait, no, he said-

12413
10:20:22,560 --> 10:20:23,400
- I mean, trying to do something as well,

12414
10:20:23,400 --> 10:20:24,560
they do something not as well.

12415
10:20:24,560 --> 10:20:26,520
The issue is just that people that are trying to sense

12416
10:20:26,520 --> 10:20:29,720
like they over exaggerate their whims

12417
10:20:29,720 --> 10:20:32,560
and they hide all their weaknesses, yeah.

12418
10:20:32,560 --> 10:20:33,440
- Also, yeah.

12419
10:20:33,440 --> 10:20:35,280
And if you make too much of a relationship,

12420
10:20:35,280 --> 10:20:37,480
they will bully the fuck out of you

12421
10:20:37,480 --> 10:20:41,480
if you don't say the things that they want, but you know.

12422
10:20:42,480 --> 10:20:44,400
- What are you gonna do?

12423
10:20:44,400 --> 10:20:45,240
- Yeah.

12424
10:20:47,120 --> 10:20:49,160
- What do you want me to say?

12425
10:20:49,160 --> 10:20:50,060
- It's China, man.

12426
10:20:51,160 --> 10:20:52,520
Wait, is that a racial star?

12427
10:20:52,520 --> 10:20:53,360
Sorry.

12428
10:20:54,880 --> 10:20:56,960
I'm China, man.

12429
10:20:56,960 --> 10:20:57,800
- Stop.

12430
10:21:06,160 --> 10:21:08,320
- Okay, well, does that mean are you ready?

12431
10:21:09,680 --> 10:21:11,240
- All right, guys, have fun.

12432
10:21:11,240 --> 10:21:12,080
I'm gonna go.

12433
10:21:12,080 --> 10:21:13,160
- No, be careful.

12434
10:21:13,160 --> 10:21:14,000
- Good luck.

12435
10:21:14,000 --> 10:21:15,000
- I'm fighting on Twitter right now.

12436
10:21:15,000 --> 10:21:16,200
- Who are you fighting with?

12437
10:21:16,200 --> 10:21:18,480
- Ooh, Elon Musk retards.

12438
10:21:18,480 --> 10:21:21,080
I said after these antics, Starlink should be nationalized

12439
10:21:21,080 --> 10:21:24,120
and I have just a bunch of fucking three followers.

12440
10:21:24,120 --> 10:21:25,360
- A bunch.

12441
10:21:25,360 --> 10:21:28,560
- Yeah, they're actually out there right now.

12442
10:21:30,920 --> 10:21:32,440
- Oh, yeah, he did it.

12443
10:21:32,440 --> 10:21:35,440
Elon was the one who slowed down the fucking--

12444
10:21:35,440 --> 10:21:36,280
- I don't think so.

12445
10:21:36,280 --> 10:21:38,760
I think it was Trump, I think it was Trump 100%.

12446
10:21:38,760 --> 10:21:40,160
I haven't read that Wall Street Journal article either.

12447
10:21:40,160 --> 10:21:41,080
I should read it.

12448
10:21:41,080 --> 10:21:43,320
I would be surprised if Elon,

12449
10:21:43,320 --> 10:21:46,120
like he might have made the call,

12450
10:21:46,120 --> 10:21:47,360
but Trump made the decision.

12451
10:21:47,360 --> 10:21:48,200
I think why would Elon do it?

12452
10:21:48,200 --> 10:21:49,360
- Like the boss call, yeah.

12453
10:21:49,360 --> 10:21:51,880
- Yeah, like why the fuck would Elon do it on his own?

12454
10:21:53,320 --> 10:21:56,320
- Well, I mean, hasn't Elon been somewhat invested in this?

12455
10:21:56,320 --> 10:21:58,760
Like he has a relationship with Putin.

12456
10:21:58,760 --> 10:21:59,840
- That ain't that much.

12457
10:22:02,560 --> 10:22:04,400
- I don't know, apparently there was a point in time

12458
10:22:04,400 --> 10:22:06,280
where they were talking quite frequently

12459
10:22:06,280 --> 10:22:07,440
on the phone and shit,

12460
10:22:07,440 --> 10:22:12,440
but I, and he was commenting on it before,

12461
10:22:13,480 --> 10:22:15,520
you know, the whole like Khrushchev's mistake,

12462
10:22:15,520 --> 10:22:17,560
like just repeating propaganda on Twitter.

12463
10:22:18,760 --> 10:22:22,240
Oh, sounds like someone needs a paywall remover.

12464
10:22:23,480 --> 10:22:24,680
- He doesn't want that.

12465
10:22:26,920 --> 10:22:29,480
- Yeah, I know he doesn't want to add block either.

12466
10:22:29,480 --> 10:22:30,840
- It's unethical.

12467
10:22:30,840 --> 10:22:32,960
It's unethical ways to be the unad, okay?

12468
10:22:35,720 --> 10:22:38,880
- He says as he uses his paywall remover.

12469
10:22:38,880 --> 10:22:40,440
- This is not a paywall remover.

12470
10:22:40,440 --> 10:22:41,640
I'm just looking at an archive version,

12471
10:22:41,640 --> 10:22:44,200
an older version to compare it to what I just read.

12472
10:22:47,640 --> 10:22:49,960
Oh yeah, fuck this headline.

12473
10:22:49,960 --> 10:22:51,280
Musk ordered a startling slowdown

12474
10:22:51,280 --> 10:22:53,080
that's blindsided Ukraine.

12475
10:22:55,240 --> 10:22:57,520
- Yeah, if you go in there, they don't have

12476
10:22:57,520 --> 10:22:59,360
strong reporting, but fuck it.

12477
10:22:59,360 --> 10:23:00,960
- Musk and Trump, or no, no, no, I'm saying

12478
10:23:00,960 --> 10:23:02,280
that the headline doesn't agree with the article,

12479
10:23:02,280 --> 10:23:03,120
I don't think.

12480
10:23:03,120 --> 10:23:04,400
'Cause the article makes it so Trump

12481
10:23:04,400 --> 10:23:05,600
doesn't want to order it.

12482
10:23:05,600 --> 10:23:07,400
Both Musk and President Trump have expressed

12483
10:23:07,400 --> 10:23:09,360
anger at Ukraine for attacking Russian diesel refineries

12484
10:23:09,360 --> 10:23:10,560
in recent weeks, which the president blames

12485
10:23:10,560 --> 10:23:11,920
for high energy prices last week,

12486
10:23:11,920 --> 10:23:14,200
Musk capped the speeds at which Ukrainian hardware

12487
10:23:14,200 --> 10:23:15,760
could stay connected to the satellite-based network

12488
10:23:15,760 --> 10:23:17,760
that people said, rendering some offensive drones

12489
10:23:17,760 --> 10:23:19,160
and interceptor drones virtually useless,

12490
10:23:19,160 --> 10:23:21,240
Musk and Trump discussed the startling decision

12491
10:23:21,240 --> 10:23:23,520
in a call soon after the slowdown became public

12492
10:23:23,520 --> 10:23:24,880
while the president was campaigning last week

12493
10:23:24,880 --> 10:23:26,080
to what the people said.

12494
10:23:26,080 --> 10:23:26,960
One of the people lost their claim,

12495
10:23:26,960 --> 10:23:28,760
Musk and Trump discussed the matter prior

12496
10:23:28,760 --> 10:23:30,560
to the decision to throttle Starlink.

12497
10:23:30,560 --> 10:23:31,880
Ukrainian president Vladimir Zelensky's

12498
10:23:31,880 --> 10:23:33,400
public complaint, saying that the Ukrainians could die

12499
10:23:33,400 --> 10:23:35,560
if the unrestricted service wasn't restored,

12500
10:23:35,560 --> 10:23:36,400
led to widespread confusion

12501
10:23:36,400 --> 10:23:37,240
about who ordered the slowdown

12502
10:23:37,240 --> 10:23:39,760
into an informal investigation inside the White House.

12503
10:23:40,760 --> 10:23:43,520
Yeah, it was Trump told, I guarantee you

12504
10:23:43,520 --> 10:23:45,680
that Trump told Elon, like, shut these fuckers down,

12505
10:23:45,680 --> 10:23:47,880
they're fucking with my gas prices guaranteed.

12506
10:23:50,640 --> 10:23:52,280
Yeah, or they both kind of agreed.

12507
10:23:52,280 --> 10:23:56,600
And then, 'cause I doubt Elon gave him much pushback.

12508
10:23:56,600 --> 10:23:58,200
Elon is gonna do whatever Trump says.

12509
10:23:58,200 --> 10:23:59,560
I don't think Elon would wanna necessarily

12510
10:23:59,560 --> 10:24:02,000
gimp Starlink on its own, like with that.

12511
10:24:02,000 --> 10:24:03,800
I mean, I think it's kind of a bad look.

12512
10:24:03,800 --> 10:24:05,400
And I also think that his statement about it

12513
10:24:05,400 --> 10:24:07,600
kind of threw the president out with the bus a little as well.

12514
10:24:07,600 --> 10:24:08,880
Musk himself posted on next hours

12515
10:24:08,880 --> 10:24:09,880
after the slowdown became public.

12516
10:24:09,880 --> 10:24:11,360
Any limits on speed or usage are decided

12517
10:24:11,360 --> 10:24:12,360
by the US military and ultimately

12518
10:24:12,360 --> 10:24:13,960
the president of the United States.

12519
10:24:15,680 --> 10:24:17,520
Yeah, so I think, I feel like that was a throwing him

12520
10:24:17,520 --> 10:24:18,880
under the bus thing there.

12521
10:24:21,280 --> 10:24:23,080
Yeah, it should be nationalized, though.

12522
10:24:23,080 --> 10:24:25,320
Well, maybe, I don't disagree with you,

12523
10:24:25,320 --> 10:24:26,720
but it would be for different reasons.

12524
10:24:26,720 --> 10:24:28,000
'Cause here it was nationalized the same outcome

12525
10:24:28,000 --> 10:24:29,480
would have happened, it would have been Trump.

12526
10:24:29,480 --> 10:24:31,840
Well, yeah, 100%, but at least you would know

12527
10:24:31,840 --> 10:24:34,640
it's Trump doing it versus people thinking it's Elon.

12528
10:24:34,640 --> 10:24:35,800
Yeah, maybe, yeah.

12529
10:24:35,800 --> 10:24:37,640
I would wanna know, like, the United States government's

12530
10:24:37,640 --> 10:24:41,540
fucking around not having a vagueness around who is it.

12531
10:24:42,760 --> 10:24:43,600
Yeah.

12532
10:24:45,880 --> 10:24:47,720
I'm the fucking block warrior, man.

12533
10:24:48,760 --> 10:24:50,320
Oh shit, I need to figure out it out later today.

12534
10:24:50,320 --> 10:24:53,960
You can, apparently, export it, whatever, oh my.

12535
10:24:53,960 --> 10:24:55,280
Oh, wait, hold on, I'm gonna do that right now.

12536
10:24:55,280 --> 10:24:57,960
We need to get the DTG block list going.

12537
10:24:57,960 --> 10:25:00,320
People are gonna see my block list and be like, what the?

12538
10:25:00,000 --> 10:25:01,620
- Oh, fuck.

12539
10:25:01,620 --> 10:25:02,720
- We gotta get Dan's block.

12540
10:25:02,720 --> 10:25:05,500
Dan said he's got like 20,000 people blocked.

12541
10:25:05,500 --> 10:25:06,700
(laughing)

12542
10:25:06,700 --> 10:25:07,740
- Damn, is he really?

12543
10:25:07,740 --> 10:25:09,980
I feel like there's no way that more people,

12544
10:25:09,980 --> 10:25:11,860
unless he's proactively going out and finding accounts

12545
10:25:11,860 --> 10:25:13,240
to block, there's no way more people are responding

12546
10:25:13,240 --> 10:25:15,780
to him than me, you know, on my tweets.

12547
10:25:17,340 --> 10:25:18,340
- I don't know, I'm not sure.

12548
10:25:18,340 --> 10:25:20,980
Dan's been blocking for a long time.

12549
10:25:20,980 --> 10:25:23,780
- He probably preemptively, I mean,

12550
10:25:23,780 --> 10:25:25,820
I wouldn't be surprised if he literally just went through

12551
10:25:25,820 --> 10:25:27,820
like fucking Jay Stocks follower list

12552
10:25:27,820 --> 10:25:29,500
and blocked every single person.

12553
10:25:29,500 --> 10:25:31,060
- That's king shit.

12554
10:25:31,060 --> 10:25:35,260
- Oh my God, you have to download your data from X,

12555
10:25:35,260 --> 10:25:37,700
confirm it and then once you download the data,

12556
10:25:37,700 --> 10:25:39,220
then you can get a block list.

12557
10:25:40,260 --> 10:25:41,100
- You're going?

12558
10:25:41,100 --> 10:25:41,940
- The catch is that the official expert

12559
10:25:41,940 --> 10:25:43,800
only contains numeric user IDs,

12560
10:25:43,800 --> 10:25:46,000
not user names or profile info.

12561
10:25:48,060 --> 10:25:50,260
- How do I block, can you block them by ID?

12562
10:25:50,260 --> 10:25:51,540
- Well then that's a question.

12563
10:25:51,540 --> 10:25:53,860
Is there any way to take this block list

12564
10:25:53,860 --> 10:25:56,660
and upload it to another X account?

12565
10:25:59,780 --> 10:26:01,940
(silence)

12566
10:26:04,780 --> 10:26:07,660
- Jesus, X has no built in way to do it,

12567
10:26:07,660 --> 10:26:10,900
you can use it with a script, it's slow.

12568
10:26:10,900 --> 10:26:13,100
X caps how many blocks an account can make in a given window,

12569
10:26:13,100 --> 10:26:16,220
so a block list of 1000 accounts takes about two days

12570
10:26:16,220 --> 10:26:18,340
to complete, what the, okay, I won't fuck those.

12571
10:26:18,340 --> 10:26:20,540
- That's fine, that's better than nothing, right?

12572
10:26:20,540 --> 10:26:23,820
- It's gonna take you a month to do my block list.

12573
10:26:23,820 --> 10:26:25,380
- And?

12574
10:26:25,380 --> 10:26:27,320
That just goes to the background, who cares?

12575
10:26:28,980 --> 10:26:29,820
- Oh.

12576
10:26:32,180 --> 10:26:34,100
- Nice website Elon.

12577
10:26:34,100 --> 10:26:35,900
All right, good luck, bye guys.

12578
10:26:35,900 --> 10:26:36,980
- Bye.

12579
10:26:36,980 --> 10:26:40,140
- Hey, make sure you guys go to patreon.com/thebluewave.

12580
10:26:40,140 --> 10:26:42,260
- The Blue Wave!

12581
10:26:42,260 --> 10:26:44,740
- Join for $5 and you'll get a, you know,

12582
10:26:44,740 --> 10:26:46,980
an icon in DDG chat when it comes back.

12583
10:26:50,420 --> 10:26:51,820
- All right.

12584
10:26:51,820 --> 10:26:53,660
- I'm ready, you want me to go live?

12585
10:26:53,660 --> 10:26:55,980
- Yeah, go for it, right in when you're our bid.

12586
10:26:55,980 --> 10:26:56,820
- Okay.

12587
10:26:58,980 --> 10:26:59,820
- Okay.

12588
10:27:12,900 --> 10:27:16,540
- Tell him it always exaggerates the timeframe of thing.

12589
10:27:16,540 --> 10:27:20,020
Your cloud's being a drama queen is what I'm being told.

12590
10:27:20,020 --> 10:27:21,420
- Yeah, we'll see about that.

12591
10:27:24,060 --> 10:27:25,820
- Wait, do you share my new tube?

12592
10:27:25,820 --> 10:27:26,660
- Nah.

12593
10:27:26,660 --> 10:27:27,800
- Nah, fuck you.

12594
10:27:29,820 --> 10:27:31,780
- Oh, shit.

12595
10:27:31,780 --> 10:27:34,340
- Oh, do you want to do Thursday, Blue Wave?

12596
10:27:36,500 --> 10:27:38,100
- Tomorrow?

12597
10:27:38,100 --> 10:27:38,940
- Yeah.

12598
10:27:46,060 --> 10:27:46,900
- Maybe.

12599
10:27:47,980 --> 10:27:49,180
- I mean, I need to know.

12600
10:27:49,180 --> 10:27:52,340
- I have a show tomorrow from six to eight

12601
10:27:53,300 --> 10:27:54,380
and I have no idea what I'm going to sleep

12602
10:27:54,380 --> 10:27:55,540
and wake up today and tomorrow.

12603
10:27:55,540 --> 10:27:56,940
- Okay, then it just doesn't work out.

12604
10:27:56,940 --> 10:27:58,060
- Yeah, then it doesn't work out.

12605
10:27:58,060 --> 10:27:58,900
- Fuck you.

12606
10:27:58,900 --> 10:27:59,740
- It doesn't work out.

12607
10:27:59,740 --> 10:28:02,300
- I'm going to tell I writes because you said no, fuck you.

12608
10:28:02,300 --> 10:28:03,140
- And it's fine.

12609
10:28:03,140 --> 10:28:03,980
- It's fine.

12610
10:28:03,980 --> 10:28:04,820
- Fuck you.

12611
10:28:09,420 --> 10:28:10,260
- What's your channel like?

12612
10:28:10,260 --> 10:28:11,260
- What's four second here for?

12613
10:28:11,260 --> 10:28:12,260
- Anything else?

12614
10:28:13,500 --> 10:28:15,300
- I don't know, he's been fucking...

12615
10:28:16,740 --> 10:28:17,980
He's been being weird.

12616
10:28:17,980 --> 10:28:19,420
Like he just comes in here and then every now and then

12617
10:28:19,420 --> 10:28:21,940
he's like screaming in the background and then...

12618
10:28:24,260 --> 10:28:25,940
- Did I get Jay's song?

12619
10:28:25,940 --> 10:28:26,780
- Maybe.

12620
10:28:28,020 --> 10:28:30,180
- Yeah, piggy, piggy, piggy, piggy.

12621
10:28:30,180 --> 10:28:31,020
- I'll let you guys talk.

12622
10:28:31,020 --> 10:28:31,860
- I'll let you back.

12623
10:28:31,860 --> 10:28:33,340
- See you when I see ya.

12624
10:28:34,940 --> 10:28:35,780
- Okay, be careful.

12625
10:28:35,780 --> 10:28:36,620
I'll be back in a sec.

12626
10:28:36,620 --> 10:28:37,460
- All right.